From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Dec 1 00:15:40 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Dec 1 00:15:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] What Now, European Cooling?
Message-ID: <20051201071540.83014.qmail@mall-net.com>
A recent article in New Scientist says that the Atlantic Conveyor
is failing. This is the flow of warm water which gives Europe its modern
balmy weather. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8398
Europe is likely to experience colder weather!
Some blame it on Global Warming. Their theory is that with higher
evaporation, the current becomes more salty, hence denser, and more of
it splits downward before reaching Europe. Others blame lower salinity
of the polar and northern Atlantic due to Siberian snow melts. Or a
combination of the two.
These are, of course, blamed on the massive release of CO2 in the
past 200 years. According to ice cores, CO2 levels are higher than they
have been for over half a million years. Interestingly enough, plants
exposed to higher CO2 levels grow much better than they do today,
because they evolved in higher levels of CO2, albeit quite more than
half a million years ago.
It is interesting to go back in history and look at other periods
of time. The MWP, Medieval Warm Period (MWP), roughly 800 - 1300 AD,
had temperatures higher than we have today. We didn't have the industry
to cause massive green house gases release in that era. This episode
gave rise to the Viking colonies on Greenland and Iceland, and let
England compete with France in wine making to a far greater extent than
today.
The Medieval Warm Period quickly gave way to the Little Ice Age
(LIA) which lasted around 1300 - 1850. Priests writings and other
journals of the times speak of murderous frosts, incredible hardships,
and crop failures. It devastated the Viking colonies in Greenland, and
caused serious population declines in Iceland, Northern portions of
Europe, and elsewhere. It also converted the lush meadowlands of
Central North America into the grasslands of the Great Plains, giving
the surviving American Indian cultures an interesting perspective on
Ecology. Cold storage of damp grain during this era also gave rise to
many cases of Ergot poisoning, which may have been one of the causes of
the witch hunts of the middle ages.
(The discovery of a popular "street drug" of the time which caused
people to feel like they were flying through the air is cited by some as
another cause of witch hunts, especially since typical application was
by application to the genitalia via a broom, and the window between
effective and lethal doses was somewhat narrow, according to more recent
research. The formula has been preserved, or perhaps reinvented in some
modern Wiccan circles, and was discussed in alt.pagan and alt.drugs in
the early 90's. Lots of fascinating neurochemistry discussed by
professors in alt.drugs in those days along with the comments of those
"not qualified to teach" on their trips.)
There are many theories regarding these times, ranging from
agricultural cutting affecting the atmosphere, to the near absence of
sunspots during the Little Ice Age. Each theory is based upon
observations, ranging from ice layers, carbon isotope variations, tree
rings, crop records, and many other sources. However, we still have no
clear winner, nor clear indication as to what is going to happen next.
Little Ice Age http://www.grisda.org/origins/10051.htm
From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Dec 1 01:06:57 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Dec 1 01:07:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wobble Glomming
In-Reply-To: <006601c5f637$2f6f1390$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Dec
01, 2005 12:22:09 AM
Message-ID: <20051201080657.9134.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1898493,00.html
>
> I do love the math here!
>
> "Scientists have long predicted that melting ice caps could disrupt the
> currents that keep Britain at least 5C (40F) warmer than it should be."
>
> Since when does 5C=3D40F??? I've heard of Global Warming, but THIS is
> ridiculous!=20
The article in New Scientist was considerably more circumspect than
the one in The London Times.
Perhaps they can host frost fairs on the Thames again, as they use
to in the early 1800's, when it froze regularly.
> And the geography!
>
> "The Southampton team measured current flow across a latitude of 250N."
The New Scientist article said 40N -- Portugal and New York
> Oh well, I guess this is what happens when kneoliberal idiots only THINK
> they know Science. Give a fool a Macintosh with a word processor
> application, and just watch the fun! The kicker is that not only does =
> the writer not know how stupid he looks, neither does his editor! And this =
> is The London Times?!?
Yep... no one has a clue! And it seems, not even those who support
Global Warming as man-caused.
> Please leave the Science to us Mad Scientists, would you? This =
> ludicrous crap makes me wonder if they have a hidden agenda to discredit then =
> entire theory of Wobble Glomming!
Nope, they is just fuse blown lubberals out to sell more
advertising! As a friend says, when they sell more advertising, they
create more news to support the extra pages. After reading this
scary fantasy, most ignorant folks will come back for more information
on when it's supposed to happen.
According to some theories, within ten years.
Might be time to sell acreage in the Sahara. It will probably
bloom.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Dec 1 18:34:37 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Dec 1 18:34:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20051201002339.1929.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051202013438.43611.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> TULSA OKLAHOMA:
>
> OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
There you go again, wasting your time, your life forces upon that
which you are unlikely to change.
I'VE CHANGED WHAT LITTLE THAT I CAN CHANGE..!
AND I'M ABSOLUTELY EXAUSTED BECAUSE OF IT TOO..!
ECONOMIC, ECOLOGICAL, ATMOSPHERIC, AND OTHER
FORMS OF SLAVERY ARE NO FUN..!
BUT THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO NOTHING AT ALL THAT
I CAN DO TO CHANGE THOSE REALITIES..!
What great research or experimentation have you done which makes
you outshine the dullards?
I HAVE BARELY COMPLETED THE ELECTROMAGNETIC
BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT PROJECT, DUE TO SO MUCH
INTERFERENCE FROM FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.
I JUST NEED TO GET AN ELECTROMECHANICAL TIMER
NOW, TO CONTROL ITS ON TIME, FOR SAFETY.
RIGHT NOW, WITH COMMERICAL DECEMBER THE 25TH
UP AND COMING; I MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT HAVE
SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AVAILABLE, TO BUY A CONTROL
TIMER, DUE TO THE LIMITS THAT SOCIAL(ISM)-SLAVEDUMB-
-SO-CALLED SECURITY HAVE PLACED UPON ME, ALONG
WITH ALL OF THE ENDLESS OTHER GOD DAMNED SHIT
THAT LIFE PILES UPON US ALL..!
I DID A SIMPLE EXPERIMENT THE OTHER EVENING, TESTING
THE OUTPUT OF MY ANEMOMETER, BY WIRING A 1/4"
AUDIO PHONE PLUG TO ITS OUTPUT, TO TEST AND
SEE IF I WOULD GET FREQENCY MODULATED OUTPUT;
MY TEST SHOWED THAT ITS OUTPUT IS AMPLITUDE OUTPUT
ONLY; AND SO I AM NOW NEEDING HELP WITH FINDING
SOME FORM OF AMPLITUDE TO FREQENCY CONVERTER OUT
THERE, IF SUCH EXISTS, TO LISTEN TO THE WIND..!
*DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN OBTAIN AN AMPLITUDE TO
(AUDIO) FREQUENCY CONVERTER????
THAT IS_IF SUCH EXISTS: ELECTRICALLY, ELECTRONICALLY,
OR ELECTROMECHANICALLY????*
Presumably Tulsan dullards around you?
I DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT OF THE WORD: DULLARDS.
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK UP THE MEANING OF THAT WORD,
BUT I ASSUME THAT IT HAS A SIMILAR MEANING TO THE
WORD: LAGGARDS..!
TULSA FOREVER SPINS AROUND AND AROUND IN CIRCLES
IN ITS OWN INSANITY, VERY RARELY GOING VERY FAR VERY
FAST; THE REASON FOR THE CREATION OF THE SONG:
TULSA TIME..!
I AM BEYOND THIS HIGH TECH INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN,
YET THIS TOWN IS A PRISON.
A MENTALLY / ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMNED-CURSED PLACE
TO LIVE; A PRISON FOR THE BODY MIND AND SPIRIT..!
Come on, do something beyond the norms of Tulsa. Do something that
may bring us all a better life with cheaper energy, greater power,
longer life!
OK; I'VE GOT A START ON THAT..!
THERE IS A HIDDEN SCIENCE OF CONSTRUCTING WHAT ARE
KNOWN AS GRIDPOINTS.
AND THEY CAN BE SCALED UP TO GARGANTUAN SIZES, FOR
RECEIVING QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT OF RADIO ENERGY;
HOW MUCH ENERGY EXACTLY? - I DO NOT KNOW..! ; BUT IT
DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO
ACQUIRE A LOT OF AMOUNT OF WIRE, TO STACK IT, TO GLUE
IT, AND TO CRISS CROSS THE WIRES AT PRECISE 90 DEGREE
ANGLES, RELATIVE TO EACH OF THE ABOVE AND BELOW
WIRES, ETC....
AND TO ALSO BUILD GRIDPOINTS INSIDE OF VACCUUM
CHAMBERS..!
REGARDING A BETTER LIFE - HEALTH WISE; I JUST GOT A
COPY OF KEVIN TRUDEAU'S AUDIO BOOK VERSION OF:
NATURAL CURES "THEY" DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT;
AND HAVE BEEN AIRING THAT ON MY L.P.F.M. STATION
THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS; AS A PUBLIC SERVICE - FINALLY
GIVING MY STATION A LITTLE MORE MEANING TO ITS EXISTANCE;
IN BEING OF HELP TO OTHER OUT THERE; INSTEAD OF HURT..!
Do not let the forces of dullness (or Tulsa-ness) drag you down to
worthlessness.
RIGHT ON..! : TULSA-NESS - DULLNESS - WORTHLESSNESS..!
Arise! Think Great Thoughts!
RIGHT ON..!
STRESS HAS DAMN NEAR KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS
HIGH TECH INDUSTRIALIZED THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE
TOWN..!
MYSELF INCLUDED..!
Or if you can't, then at least pick up a copy of "Anyway: The
Pardocixal Commandments" for inspiration.
OK; IF THERE IS ANY TIME TO CHECK INTO THAT..!
TALK TO YOU LATER,
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Dec 1 20:44:13 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Thu Dec 1 20:44:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Wobble Glomming
In-Reply-To: <3704FF9F-CEEA-4A64-B834-88AF3A6907A3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <018301c5f6f2$aa6ce930$d0c5bc41@mikey>
You may well be a neolib, David, but you're no fool.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Blackman [mailto:gribear@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:05 PM
> To: javilk@mall-net.com
> Cc: mbest@triad.rr.com; mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG
> Subject: Re: Wobble Glomming
>
> As a neo-liberal with a macintosh and a word processor software I
> guess that New Orleans and the rest of the gulf coast was a neo-
> liberal fantasy wet dream. What is astounding to me is that most of
> the opposition against Kyoto protocols came from the southeastern US,
> The very people who the computer models indicates will be devastated
> by the initial effects of global warming. You see we don't just do
> word processing on our computers. My models predicted Katrina 5 years
> before it happened. Every indication is that my models are a little
> too conservative. I actually thought the ice caps would have to melt
> before all hell broke loose boy was I wrong.
> On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:06 AM, javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> >
> >> Oh well, I guess this is what happens when kneoliberal idiots only
> >> THINK
> >> they know Science. Give a fool a Macintosh with a word processor
> >> application, and just watch the fun! The kicker is that not only
> >> does =
> >> the writer not know how stupid he looks, neither does his editor!
> >> And this =
> >> is The London Times?!?
From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 2 12:22:52 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 2 12:23:10 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wobble Glomming
In-Reply-To: <3704FF9F-CEEA-4A64-B834-88AF3A6907A3@mac.com> from "David
Blackman" at Dec 01, 2005 07:04:47 PM
Message-ID: <20051202192252.16513.qmail@mall-net.com>
If this means you have joined Mad Scientists David, then I welcome
you. If not, why not?
> As a neo-liberal with a macintosh and a word processor software I
> guess that New Orleans and the rest of the gulf coast was a neo-
> liberal fantasy wet dream. What is astounding to me is that most of
Well, it was certainly wet! A city below sea level? Not a wise
thing! (For many reasons!) And Governor Blanco... ah... she caused a
lot of the disaster by refusing FEMA's entry into her state till many
days after the disaster, refused the National Guard any police powers,
refused non-Louisiana doctors the right to practice medicine in
assistance of her population, etc. etc. etc. Blanco is why Louisiana
was that much worse off than Mississippi.
> the opposition against Kyoto protocols came from the southeastern US,
> The very people who the computer models indicates will be devastated
> by the initial effects of global warming. You see we don't just do
The South is very conservative, they believe in a more static view
of the world than many others. It may be due to their poor diet, that
they can not imagine the future as interestingly as others can; thus can
not participate in its creation as well.
> word processing on our computers. My models predicted Katrina 5 years
> before it happened. Every indication is that my models are a little
> too conservative. I actually thought the ice caps would have to melt
> before all hell broke loose boy was I wrong.
For the rest of us Mad Scientists, could you publish some more on
your models? Maybe provide some of us downloads? I find this very
interesting! I am sure others do as well.
I think that many of us would be willing to run parts of your model
on our computers to assist in getting more resolution, etc. (I'll not
run much, as every watt I have to generate via solar and generators, too
much on generators in the winter, is much more expensive than what most
on-grid folks pay.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 2 12:43:29 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 2 12:43:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA..!ry
In-Reply-To: <20051202013438.43611.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 01, 2005 05:34:37 PM
Message-ID: <20051202194329.30192.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I JUST NEED TO GET AN ELECTROMECHANICAL TIMER
> NOW, TO CONTROL ITS ON TIME, FOR SAFETY.
Thre are many cheap things available, ranging from the guts of old
toasters, to who knows what. Surplus places are good for cheap parts.
As one prof told me long, long ago, if you want to do science, you need
to be able to tinker with cheap stuff as there's never enough money!
> Come on, do something beyond the norms of Tulsa. Do something that
> may bring us all a better life with cheaper energy, greater power,
> longer life!
>
> OK; I'VE GOT A START ON THAT..!
> THERE IS A HIDDEN SCIENCE OF CONSTRUCTING WHAT ARE
> KNOWN AS GRIDPOINTS.
> AND THEY CAN BE SCALED UP TO GARGANTUAN SIZES, FOR
> RECEIVING QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT OF RADIO ENERGY;
> HOW MUCH ENERGY EXACTLY? - I DO NOT KNOW..! ; BUT IT
> DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO
> ACQUIRE A LOT OF AMOUNT OF WIRE, TO STACK IT, TO GLUE
> IT, AND TO CRISS CROSS THE WIRES AT PRECISE 90 DEGREE
> ANGLES, RELATIVE TO EACH OF THE ABOVE AND BELOW
> WIRES, ETC....
> AND TO ALSO BUILD GRIDPOINTS INSIDE OF VACCUUM
> CHAMBERS..!
No idea what you are talking about. Don't forget, there are a lot
of crackpots out there who say you can do the equivalent of converting
egg yolks to gold if you stir them continuously for 100 hours never once
thinking of a hippopotamus. Knowing that, it's impossible not to think
of a hippopotamus, and thus one has an un-performable experiment. (Old
Alchemists con from the middle ages. And though some alchemists were
good folks, a lot more were con artists out to bilk the gullible.)
> REGARDING A BETTER LIFE - HEALTH WISE; I JUST GOT A
> COPY OF KEVIN TRUDEAU'S AUDIO BOOK VERSION OF:
> NATURAL CURES "THEY" DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT;
> AND HAVE BEEN AIRING THAT ON MY L.P.F.M. STATION
> THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS; AS A PUBLIC SERVICE - FINALLY
> GIVING MY STATION A LITTLE MORE MEANING TO ITS EXISTANCE;
> IN BEING OF HELP TO OTHER OUT THERE; INSTEAD OF HURT..!
There may be copyright issues...
> Do not let the forces of dullness (or Tulsa-ness) drag you down to
> worthlessness.
>
> RIGHT ON..! : TULSA-NESS - DULLNESS - WORTHLESSNESS..!
>
> Arise! Think Great Thoughts!
>
> RIGHT ON..!
> STRESS HAS DAMN NEAR KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS
> HIGH TECH INDUSTRIALIZED THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE
> TOWN..!
> MYSELF INCLUDED..!
Remember, it's not as bad as you think.
> Or if you can't, then at least pick up a copy of "Anyway: The
> Pardocixal Commandments" for inspiration.
>
> OK; IF THERE IS ANY TIME TO CHECK INTO THAT..!
Good book for some.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 2 14:28:49 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 2 14:29:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20051202194329.30192.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051202212849.36217.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> AND TO ALSO BUILD GRIDPOINTS INSIDE OF VACCUUM
> CHAMBERS..!
No idea what you are talking about.
FROM WHAT LITTLE THAT I THINK THAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT
GRIDPOINTS, IS THAT AT THE CROSS POINT OF EACH WIRE, AT
THE 90 DEGREE ANGLE CROSS POINT; IF I'VE GOT IT RIGHT;
I THINK THE ENERGY ACTION BETWEEN THE CROSSING
CONDUCTORS IS A VORTEX(IAL) TYPE OF ACTION.
JUST AS TWO PARALLEL WIRES HAVE INDUCTION BETWEEN
THE TWO; IN A GRIDPOINT, A SPIRAL OF ELECTROMOTIVE
FORCE SHOULD EXIST AT THE CROSS POINT OF THE WIRES;
AND THE WIRES WOULD NEED AN INSULATIVE VALUE
RELATIONAL TO THE CAPACITIVE REACTANCE BETWEEN THE
TWO CONDUCTORS.
THAT'S ALL I KNOW, FROM MY CONTEMPLATION.
I'M ON NO GROUND TO ARGUE ANY POINTS ABOUT IT..!
Don't forget, there are a lot of crackpots out there who say you can
do the equivalent of converting egg yolks to gold if you stir them
continuously for 100 hours never once thinking of a hippopotamus.
YEAH; OK.
Knowing that, it's impossible not to think
of a hippopotamus, and thus one has an un-performable experiment. (Old
Alchemists con from the middle ages. And though some alchemists were
good folks, a lot more were con artists out to bilk the gullible.)
MAYBE - REGARDING ALCHEMISTS; MAYBE WE SHOULD START
CALLING THE PHYSICIANS DESK REFERENCE: ALCHEMY 101..!
AND ALSO CALLING IT: THE PHYSICIANS DEATH REFERENCE..!
Do not let the forces of dullness (or Tulsa-ness) drag you down to
worthlessness.
TULSA IS A TOWN OF ENDLESS DULLARDS AND LAGGARDS,
LAGGARD-DULLARDS, AND DULLARD-LAGGARDS..!
> RIGHT ON..!
> STRESS HAS DAMN NEAR KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS
> HIGH TECH INDUSTRIALIZED THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE
> TOWN..!
> MYSELF INCLUDED..!
Remember, it's not as bad as you think.
IT IS BAD FOR MANY PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE
100% ABSOLUTE PERFECT CONTROL OVER OUR EXISTANCES
AND OVER OUR REALITIES..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 2 14:47:44 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 2 14:47:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CORRECTION.
In-Reply-To: <20051202212849.36217.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051202214744.43644.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
I'M ON NO GROUND TO ARGUE ANY POINTS ABOUT IT..!
(CORRECTION ABOVE, TO THE WORD: ARGUE.)
Knowing that, it's impossible not to think of a hippopotamus, and
thus one has an un-performable experiment. (Old Alchemists con
from the middle ages. And though some alchemists were
good folks, a lot more were con artists out to bilk the gullible.)
MAYBE - REGARDING ALCHEMISTS; MAYBE WE SHOULD START
CALLING THE PHYSICIANS DESK REFERENCE: ALCHEMY 101..!
AND ALSO CALLING IT: THE PHYSICIANS DEATH REFERENCE..!
ALSO; PERTAINING TO THE ABOVE:
REGARDING ALCHEMISTS, GULLIBLES, CONS, AND CON ARTISTS;
CONSERVATIVES CON THOSE WHO THEY CLAIM TO SERVE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIBERALS THOUGH;
I NEED TO STUDY THE LINGUISM OF THE WORD: LIBERAL, AND
IT HISTORICAL DEFINE-MENT.
IT SEEMS THAT: LIBER, AND: AL, CAN BE SEPERATED, BUT I
HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO WHAT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE
IS, OF THE USE OF THE WORD: LIBERAL.
MAYBE THE AL PART OF THE WORD: LIBERAL, COULD BE
RELATIONAL TO THE WORD: ALL..?
MAYBE LIBERATION OF ALL; BUT I DON'T KNOW....????
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Dec 2 20:37:18 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Dec 2 20:37:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Wobble Glomming
In-Reply-To: <6502BF65-0E1C-4CD0-9667-CC7582163570@mac.com>
Message-ID: <01ed01c5f7ba$dcb00cb0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
> > Javilk
> Gribear
> > If this means you have joined Mad Scientists David, then I welcome
> > you. If not, why not?
> I am not a member my posting was kicked back
David, you ought to join! Your input would be greatly appreciated by all.
> No! Louisiana was worse off because its largest city is below sea
> level and really near the coast. That is a problem of geography. The
> fact that New Orleans is sinking is nobodies fault, just a fact of
> life. FEMA's failure to enter NO in a timely fashion was purely the
> fault of Brown the director.
Oh, David, it's politics, not partisanship, that caused the problem!
Democrap or Refucklian, they both contributed to the problem.
If the Refucklian administration was as evil as you suggest, they would have
provided every welfare recipient in NO with a shovel, and sent them to the
levees to fill sandbags! And under armed Green Beret guards, instructed to
shoot deserters!
> > The South is very conservative, they believe in a more static
> > view
> > of the world than many others. It may be due to their poor diet, that
> > they can not imagine the future as interestingly as others can;
> > thus can
> > not participate in its creation as well.
> All of this is true and they are going to get a rude awakening.
Southerners are conservative??? I resemble that remark! See if you get any
barbecued pig and collards from me!
Please don't wake me until I have beachfront property here in Greensboro.
And please have a pot of Starbuck's best on the fire when you do!
> > For the rest of us Mad Scientists, could you publish some more on
> > your models? Maybe provide some of us downloads? I find this very
> > interesting! I am sure others do as well.
> Like all the other more complex models my model are just too
> conservative in their results. It treats the atmosphere as a one way
> mirror. Visible and UV light comes in and IR is trapped based on the
> CO2 in the air. In other terms the mirror changes it opacity based on
> gas composition. It is in essence a heat source heat sink model with
> the polar being the ultimate heat sink. Polar ice is proving to be a
> much slower absorber of energy than projected. The fact that the gulf
> waters were 92?F last August was a shocker.
> > I think that many of us would be willing to run parts of your
> > model
> > on our computers to assist in getting more resolution, etc.
> The model is like the Lorenz model for thermodynamic flux. I don't
> require the 70x 70x 100 mile cells used in the more convention
> models the Arctic is just one cell. All of the land masses in the
> northern hemisphere are treated as one and the reflectivity is a
> gross average. Bottomline is that such a model should error towards a
> more radical solution and it doesn't which means the heat dumping is
> weaker than expected. I suspect the problem comes into play in the
> less than expected heat flow into the depth of the ocean. Bottom-line
> is that I won't publish terrible results. New Orleans shouldn't have
> happened for another 5 years.
Damn! Eureka! (Other good clich?s)
Hurricanes are massive Carnot cycle heat engines that move tropical heat
energy to the poles. Since the polar icecaps have NOT provided an effective
heat sink (per the Gribear Model), Momma Nature simply used more hurricanes
to do the job this year!
The problem is that Man
Tends to be in the path
Of Nature's wrath.
(Ooh, the poet comes out again! I thought he was locked in the closet.
Gotta check them locks.)
And if this is accurate, just wait until next hurricane season! The
prediction from this theory is that the next season will make this one look
like a spring shower.
What are your thoughts on this corollary, David?
-Mike
From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Dec 6 14:11:18 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Dec 6 14:11:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Artificial Generation of Acoustic and
Gravitational Waves in the Atmosphere
Message-ID: <003301c5faa9$9a42e720$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Artificial Generation of Acoustic and Gravitational Waves in the Atmosphere
Dr. Bernard Eastlund
Chief Technical Officer and founder of Eastlund Scientific Enterprises
Corporation
ABSTRACT
Weather modification with electromagnetic radiation was suggested by the
speaker in patents as a consequence of research for ARCO Corporation. This
lecture will discuss the basis for those suggestions and describe a follow
on concept sponsored by the European Space Agency called the "Thunderstorm
Solar Power Satellite." Recent development of a method and apparatus to
artificially create acoustic and gravitational waves in the atmosphere and
applications to weather modification research will be described.
http://www.lv.psu.edu/tuh4/science_lecture/2005_lecture.htm
From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Dec 6 15:25:43 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Dec 6 15:26:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New breeding stock for my Automatic Mousetraps?
Message-ID: <003e01c5fab3$ffb61460$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Is it a cat, a dog, a fox - or first sighting of a new carnivore?
>From Nick Meo in Jakarta and Nigel Hawkes
_The Times_, London, 12/06/05
DEEP in the jungle, something stirs. But is it a cat, a dog, a marten, a
rare fox, or even - as some surmise - the first new carnivore to be found in
South East Asia for more than 70 years?
The only evidence that exists are photographs taken by an automatically
triggered camera on a jungle trail in Indonesia in 2003. Infuriatingly, a
large leaf obscured the creature's face as the shutter went off.
Undaunted, researchers from the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) announced
the discovery yesterday, claiming it as the first new carnivore to be found
in the region since the Tonkin otter-civet emerged in Vietnam in 1930.
The animal was photographed in Kayan Mentarang National Park in Kalimantan,
the Indonesian part of Borneo, one of the world's biggest islands, which is
shared between Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei. WWF calls the mountainous
region the "Heart of Borneo," a vast tract of rainforest which it believes
should be made a protected area.
Stephen Wulffraat, discoverer of the so-far unnamed animal, said: "We showed
the photos to locals who know the wildlife of the area, but nobody had ever
seen this creature before. We also consulted several Bornean wildlife
experts. Some thought it looked like a lemur, but most were convinced it was
a new species of carnivore."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1905654,00.html
From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Dec 6 15:29:47 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 6 15:30:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New breeding stock for my Automatic Mousetraps?
In-Reply-To: <003e01c5fab3$ffb61460$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Dec
06, 2005 05:25:43 PM
Message-ID: <20051206222947.1321.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Is it a cat, a dog, a fox - or first sighting of a new carnivore?
> >From Nick Meo in Jakarta and Nigel Hawkes
> _The Times_, London, 12/06/05
> DEEP in the jungle, something stirs. But is it a cat, a dog, a marten, a
> rare fox, or even - as some surmise - the first new carnivore to be =
> found in South East Asia for more than 70 years?=20
The picture in New Scientist com made it look like C3PO's furry
cousin with a prehensile tail. Check out the article at
http://www.newscientist.com/
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Dec 6 15:43:25 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Dec 6 15:43:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New breeding stock for my Automatic Mousetraps?
In-Reply-To: <20051206222947.1321.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c5fab6$7873bd10$d0c5bc41@mikey>
The New Scientist article was important for one point- there was a "fur
trap" set up beside the camera. So maybe we'll have some DNA with which to
improve my Automatic Mousetraps! The CATS operating system needs some
improvement, maybe this can help.
-Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:30 PM
> To: mbest@triad.rr.com
> Cc: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG
> Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] New breeding stock for my Automatic
> Mousetraps?
> > Is it a cat, a dog, a fox - or first sighting of a new carnivore?
> > From Nick Meo in Jakarta and Nigel Hawkes
> > _The Times_, London, 12/06/05
> > DEEP in the jungle, something stirs. But is it a cat, a dog, a marten, a
> > rare fox, or even - as some surmise - the first new carnivore to be =
> > found in South East Asia for more than 70 years?=20
> The picture in New Scientist.com made it look like C3PO's furry
> cousin with a prehensile tail. Check out the article at
> http://www.newscientist.com/
>
> --javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
> Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
> Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
> prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states, or when
> perpendicularly parked in a parallel universe.
> -------------------------------------------------------
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 6 17:36:35 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 6 17:37:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
MOST PEOPLE HATE SUCCESS..!
Message-ID: <20051207003635.96993.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS; MOST PEOPLE
HATE SUCCESS..!
WHY EVEN CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR SUCCESS IN
DEATH; WHEN INTERFERENCE FROM FAMILY AND
NEIGHBORS IS ENDLESS, AND MONEY IS FOREVER
IN ANTI SUPPLY..?
IT HAS ONLY GIVEN ME OVERWHELMING STRESS,
AND VERY MINIMAL SUCCESS AT BEST.
FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS DO NOT LIKE SUCCESS.
THE NEIGHBORS ENJOY MISERY, AND ENJOY MAKING
ME AND ALL OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS MISERABLE.
TULSA OKLAHOMA IS OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND RIGHT NOW
PROGRESS IS A NO GO.
SO WHY STRESS MYSELF OUT ANY MORE, BY
WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING?
THE NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE JERKS, AND THEY
HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE ME BE A MISERABLE
JERK BACK TO THEM..!
MY NEIGHBORS HATE SUCCESS, AND THEY ARE
MISERABLE ROTTEN WRETCHES, TO THEIR FUCKING
GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED CORE..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Dec 6 19:40:38 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 6 19:40:44 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051207003635.96993.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 06, 2005 04:36:35 PM
Message-ID: <20051207024038.94564.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS; MOST PEOPLE
> HATE SUCCESS..!
Only when it isn't theirs.
> WHY EVEN CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR SUCCESS IN
> DEATH; WHEN INTERFERENCE FROM FAMILY AND
> NEIGHBORS IS ENDLESS, AND MONEY IS FOREVER
> IN ANTI SUPPLY..?
Well, what's the alternative? Death? I mean, that should be my
line, living up in the mountains with skunks and drunks for neighbors.
> IT HAS ONLY GIVEN ME OVERWHELMING STRESS,
> AND VERY MINIMAL SUCCESS AT BEST.
So you're probably going about it the wrong way. Most people do.
Success may be about hard work; but that's not the only ingredient in
the soup. Smart work is a multiplier, as are tools and such.
> FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS DO NOT LIKE SUCCESS.
I don't think that is relevant. If you believe they don't want you
to succeed, you are probably wrong. They just don't want you to try in
ways they don't understand. Most people are afraid of things they don't
understand, because at some point they got hurt. And at some other
point, they had a boss who wanted to be a powerful boss, not a mentor.
(The way to become a powerful boss is to mentor, but it's faster for him
to just yell his head off. Then, everyone believes he is the boss.
Everyone, that is, but the bosses boss, who should fire idiots like that
promptly. But if he's got an idiot working for him, he's probably an
idiot too, so you lose.)
> THE NEIGHBORS ENJOY MISERY, AND ENJOY MAKING
> ME AND ALL OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS MISERABLE.
I don't think so; but I could be wrong. Old people are just tired
and want to be left alone with their own thoughts. They basically don't
care whether you succeed or fail, as long as it does not change the
neighborhood.
> TULSA OKLAHOMA IS OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED
> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND RIGHT NOW
> PROGRESS IS A NO GO.
if there are voters, it is not withough representation.
> SO WHY STRESS MYSELF OUT ANY MORE, BY
> WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING?
Well, worrying isn't going to change things.
> THE NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE JERKS, AND THEY
> HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE ME BE A MISERABLE
> JERK BACK TO THEM..!
Confue them; smile at them.
> MY NEIGHBORS HATE SUCCESS, AND THEY ARE
> MISERABLE ROTTEN WRETCHES, TO THEIR FUCKING
> GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED CORE..!
This is a supposition with out any proof.
If someone said the moon was made of green cheese, would you believe
him? Or would you ask for some proof?
I think most of your statements are green cheese statements. Worse
than that, they are statements about something as flexible as a sail.
So if you blow winds one way, they will behave one way; if you blow
winds the other way, they will behave another way.
If you blow polite encouraging winds their way, they should respond
in kind, maybe not the first time, but by the seventh or thirtieth, they
will respond in a more pleasing way.
You are the helmsman. Tack into the wind that the wind blow you
forward in YOUR direction, not the wind's.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From ackohler at umich.edu Tue Dec 6 21:45:49 2005
From: ackohler at umich.edu (ackohler@umich.edu)
Date: Tue Dec 6 21:46:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051207024038.94564.qmail@mall-net.com>
References: <20051207024038.94564.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051206234549.jrvb4po204k4sock@web.mail.umich.edu>
Please do not send me your problems. I don't care.
Quoting javilk@mall-net.com:
>> MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS; MOST PEOPLE
>> HATE SUCCESS..!
>
> Only when it isn't theirs.
>
>> WHY EVEN CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR SUCCESS IN
>> DEATH; WHEN INTERFERENCE FROM FAMILY AND
>> NEIGHBORS IS ENDLESS, AND MONEY IS FOREVER
>> IN ANTI SUPPLY..?
>
> Well, what's the alternative? Death? I mean, that should be my
> line, living up in the mountains with skunks and drunks for neighbors.
>
>> IT HAS ONLY GIVEN ME OVERWHELMING STRESS,
>> AND VERY MINIMAL SUCCESS AT BEST.
>
> So you're probably going about it the wrong way. Most people do.
> Success may be about hard work; but that's not the only ingredient in
> the soup. Smart work is a multiplier, as are tools and such.
>
>> FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS DO NOT LIKE SUCCESS.
>
> I don't think that is relevant. If you believe they don't want you
> to succeed, you are probably wrong. They just don't want you to try in
> ways they don't understand. Most people are afraid of things they don't
> understand, because at some point they got hurt. And at some other
> point, they had a boss who wanted to be a powerful boss, not a mentor.
> (The way to become a powerful boss is to mentor, but it's faster for him
> to just yell his head off. Then, everyone believes he is the boss.
> Everyone, that is, but the bosses boss, who should fire idiots like that
> promptly. But if he's got an idiot working for him, he's probably an
> idiot too, so you lose.)
>
>> THE NEIGHBORS ENJOY MISERY, AND ENJOY MAKING
>> ME AND ALL OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS MISERABLE.
>
> I don't think so; but I could be wrong. Old people are just tired
> and want to be left alone with their own thoughts. They basically don't
> care whether you succeed or fail, as long as it does not change the
> neighborhood.
>
>> TULSA OKLAHOMA IS OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED
>> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND RIGHT NOW
>> PROGRESS IS A NO GO.
>
> if there are voters, it is not withough representation.
>
>> SO WHY STRESS MYSELF OUT ANY MORE, BY
>> WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING?
>
> Well, worrying isn't going to change things.
>
>> THE NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE JERKS, AND THEY
>> HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE ME BE A MISERABLE
>> JERK BACK TO THEM..!
>
> Confue them; smile at them.
>
>> MY NEIGHBORS HATE SUCCESS, AND THEY ARE
>> MISERABLE ROTTEN WRETCHES, TO THEIR FUCKING
>> GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED CORE..!
>
> This is a supposition with out any proof.
>
> If someone said the moon was made of green cheese, would you believe
> him? Or would you ask for some proof?
>
> I think most of your statements are green cheese statements. Worse
> than that, they are statements about something as flexible as a sail.
> So if you blow winds one way, they will behave one way; if you blow
> winds the other way, they will behave another way.
>
> If you blow polite encouraging winds their way, they should respond
> in kind, maybe not the first time, but by the seventh or thirtieth, they
> will respond in a more pleasing way.
>
> You are the helmsman. Tack into the wind that the wind blow you
> forward in YOUR direction, not the wind's.
>
> -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
> CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
> Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
> My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
> I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
>
> For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
> orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
> Today's Art Photo
> Chem / Fungus allergies
> Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
> Arthritis
> Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Dec 7 00:41:19 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Wed Dec 7 00:41:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
MOST PEOPLE HATE SUCCESS...
Message-ID: <28c.18df30e.30c7ec1f@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/6/2005 7:38:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
SO WHY STRESS MYSELF OUT ANY MORE, BY
WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING?
Bravo Clyde, BRAVO !!!!!!!
Change what you can Clyde. The things you can't------ Neighbors, taxes,
etc. cope with them. Since you know you will never be friends with your
neighbors, do you really want to be (?) (!) .
All the other stuff you worry about is time wasted when you could be working
on your own life. When it comes to survival, basic food, clothing and
shelter, then is the time to hunker down and look for alternatives.
In the words of that awful song " DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY "
Regards Vesta
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 08:50:45 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 7 08:50:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
MOST PEOPLE HATE SUCCESS...
In-Reply-To: <28c.18df30e.30c7ec1f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051207155045.570.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/6/2005 7:38:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
SO WHY STRESS MYSELF OUT ANY MORE, BY
WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING?
Bravo Clyde, BRAVO !!!!!!!
Change what you can
OVERZONATION AND OVERTAXXXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, IN THIS ENDLESS, EVER INSANE, SPIN AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND IN 'ETERNAL' CIRCLES IN VERTIGO IN ETERNAL DEATH, UNTIL FINAL DEATH, - HIGH TECH, INDUSTRIALIZED THIRD WORLD COUNTRY SLUM TOWN - WASTELAND; FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, A TOWN THAT IS FOREVER HALF ASSED, AND AGAIN: OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED, WITHOUT REPRESENTATION....!!!!
I CAN FEEL THE LYRICS TO THE SONG: TULSA TIME WANTING
TO BLAST PEOPLE WITH INFINITE PUNCHES IN THEIR FUCKING
FACES, AND THE SONG: HAPPY, BY THE BAND: MUDVAYNE,
WANTING TO BLAST AND TO BEAT TO DEATH THE PEOPLE OF THIS
ENDLESS FUCKING FOREVER STUPID SLUM TOWN, WITH INFINITE PUNCHES IN THEIR FUCKING FACES AND PUNCHES IN THEIR FUCKING GODDAMNED GUTS, AND BEATING THEM TO BLOODY PULPS, TILL THERE'S NOTHING LEFT..!
TULSA OKLAHOMA.
I HATE THIS GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED INDUSTRIALIZED
CESSPOOL SLUM WASTELAND..!
Clyde. The things you can't------ Neighbors
DAMN THE CURSED NEIGHBORS TO HELL..!
OR: BLESS THE CURSED NEIGHBORS TO NONEXISTANCE..!
, taxes,
FUCK OVERZONING AND OVERTAXING WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
THE IDIOTS OF THIS SHITHOLE SHITTY OF TULSA NEED TO WAKE
UP; IF THERE IS A BETTER FUTURE AHEAD; CAN WE THE PEOPLE
OF THIS FUCKING SLUM TOWN CLEAN THIS FUCKING GOD DAMNED
AND MAN DAMNED PLACE UP..!
etc. cope with them.
THERE IS LITTLE TO ZERO, IN TRYING TO COPE WITH THEM..!
Since you know you will never be friends with your neighbors, do you really want to be (?) (!) .
NO....!!!!
All the other stuff you worry about is time wasted when you could be working on your own life.
I'VE BEEN NEGLECTING MY HEALTH, AND SO MY HEALTH HAS GONE TO
HELL.
I AM IN DESPERATE NEED OF RESTORING MY HEALTH BACK TO
THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE; IF THERE IS ANY WAY, AND IF THERE
IS ANY HOPE IN DOING SO, AT ALL.
When it comes to survival, basic food, clothing and shelter, then is the time to hunker down and look for alternatives.
I NEED A CONTINUAL SUPPLY OF MORPHINE DIRECTLY INJECTED BY
INTRAVENOUS INJECTION, INTO MY CEREBRAL CORTEX..!
In the words of that awful song " DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY "
IT IS INFINITELY VERY NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE, TO BE HAPPY IN HELL, IN
THIS HELLHOLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
Regards Vesta
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 09:04:48 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 7 09:04:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED SHIT..!
Message-ID: <20051207160448.70169.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED SHIT..!
THE DOCTORS AND NURSES OF PILL PUSHING PHARMACOLOGY HAVE
GOT IT ALL WRONG..!
IT IS NOT MENTAL ILLNESS THAT WE THE PEOPLE SUFFER FROM; IT
IS ENVIRONMENTAL ILLNESS, AND CHEMICAL ALLERGIES..!
AND THE PILL PUSHING PHARMACOLOGY ESTABLISHMENT OWNS,
OPERATES, AND DICTATES THE FUNCTIONINGS OF THE MEDIA
ESTABLISHMENT; THE BANKING ESTABLISHMENT; THE PETROCHEMICAL
ESTABLISHMENT; AND THE ENTIRE ENERGY AND FASCIST
KOMMUNICATIONS, AND TRANSPORTATION INTRAFUCKTURE-INFRASTRUCTURE..!
Interdependence - IS NOT..! - Independence..!
AND WE THE PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH IT, AND ARE SICK OF IT ALL..!
OUR COUNTRY'S FOUNDING FATHERS ARE ROLLING OVER IN THEIR
GRAVES, JUST AS THE DEAD ARE ROLLING OVER IN THEIR GRAVES
HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 09:11:22 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 7 09:11:26 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051206234549.jrvb4po204k4sock@web.mail.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <20051207161122.77379.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
ackohler@umich.edu wrote:
Please do not send me your problems. I don't care.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ PROBLEMS, THEN
DON'T READ THEM..!
SCIENTISTS CONFRONT PROBLEMS EVERY
FUCKING GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED
FUCKING DAY...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 09:29:19 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 7 09:29:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA TIME, AND; HAPPY.
Message-ID: <20051207162920.31103.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA TIME:
http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/eric_clapton_lyrics_2113/backless_lyrics_6375/tulsa_time_lyrics_75406.html
HAPPY:
http://www.searchlyrics.org/mudvayne/happy?.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 09:42:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 7 09:42:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TEN THOUSAND FISTS..!
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DISTURBED: TEN THOUSAND FISTS:
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 7 12:54:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED SHIT..!
In-Reply-To: <20051207160448.70169.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 07, 2005 08:04:48 AM
Message-ID: <20051207195450.5396.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE DOCTORS AND NURSES OF PILL PUSHING PHARMACOLOGY HAVE
> GOT IT ALL WRONG..!
No one is forcing you to take their stuff, at least not at
gunpoint. You are free to say no, at least as long as you can control
yourself.
> IT IS NOT MENTAL ILLNESS THAT WE THE PEOPLE SUFFER FROM; IT
> IS ENVIRONMENTAL ILLNESS, AND CHEMICAL ALLERGIES..!
In some cases, yes. In other cases, we just don't know what is going
on in their brains.
> AND THE PILL PUSHING PHARMACOLOGY ESTABLISHMENT OWNS,
> OPERATES, AND DICTATES THE FUNCTIONINGS OF THE MEDIA
> ESTABLISHMENT; THE BANKING ESTABLISHMENT; THE PETROCHEMICAL
> ESTABLISHMENT; AND THE ENTIRE ENERGY AND FASCIST
> KOMMUNICATIONS, AND TRANSPORTATION INTRAFUCKTURE-INFRASTRUCTURE..!
This is not true. First, there are no large financial ties, other
than advertising revenues the media gains. Second, they can not dictate
what others do, only offer appealing alternatives. For some, the
alternatives offered are indeed quite appealing. Others are wiser.
> Interdependence - IS NOT..! - Independence..!
I suppose it depends on your point of view. The people you work
for are dependent upon someone, preferably you, showing up and doing
your job. You are dependent upon them paying you. You are also
dependent upon the general economic infrastructure, from the farmer to
the retailer to the products of those who eat the farmer's foodstuffs.
So in that sense, we are dependent upon each other.
In the other sense, we can do just about anything we please. At
least, as long as we don't offend or harm anyone else. This is not the
case in most other countries. If you stand in the park talking like
you are in China... you will disappear. Same in many other Asian,
African, and South American countries.
> AND WE THE PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH IT, AND ARE SICK OF IT ALL..!
If that were the case, I think there would be more people talking
this way in the parks of our cities. I don't see that, except for the
occasional somewhat deluded doom-repentance preacher. (And not many of
them, either!)
> OUR COUNTRY'S FOUNDING FATHERS ARE ROLLING OVER IN THEIR
> GRAVES, JUST AS THE DEAD ARE ROLLING OVER IN THEIR GRAVES
> HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.!
In 1776, the life expectancy of an average person was in the range
of 45 to 50. You had to get up early in the morning, do one hell of a
lot of hard physical work chopping firewood, tilling the soil, planting
and harvesting crops, feeding cattle, etc. just to survive. And many
people didn't. The hearth was a roaring fireplace in winter, barely
heating the cold house. It was a sweltering hell in summer. And summer
or winter, the smoke, soot, and smell of wood tars permeated the home
and everyone's clothes. Food was scarce in winter, nothing fresh! It
didn't get better till near Easter, which is why we celebrate it. Real
work, meaning working for someone else, was ten to twelve hour days.
With the need to heat water and the cold, you were lucky if you took one
bath a week. If you were not married, you didn't have enough time to
keep your own home, could hardly keep up appearances. Marriage was an
economic necessity for all but the rich; as it took one person to keep
the home working, and another to earn an income.
If you got cavities, they pulled your tooth without anesthetic.
When you lost enough teeth, it was a poorly carved wooden board for your
mouth, perhaps with horse's teeth to help you chew. Many didn't bother,
preferring to crush their food with a mortar and pestle or other means in
order to eat. Nutrition in general, was poor; worse for the aged
without teeth. Those who didn't have savings died of starvation or the
cold in winter. Indeed, winter was the season of death.
As for divorce, there wasn't much because people died often.
Abusive marriages were not uncommon, as women were considered chattels
of the man. He owned her, could beat her at will, and no one said much.
With the man the Lord of the Manor, child abuse was more common.
Certainly, whipping, spanking and other physical abuse of children was
considered normal and expected in order to "build character".
Today, we live in Heaven! We really do! It's a heaven we all
created through our daily cooperation and invention.
Tomorrow will be even better.
So if you don't like today, focus on tomorrow and try to make
tomorrow better.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 7 13:34:42 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 7 13:34:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051207161122.77379.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 07, 2005 08:11:22 AM
Message-ID: <20051207203443.57882.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Please do not send me your problems. I don't care.
>
> IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ PROBLEMS, THEN
> DON'T READ THEM..!
>
> SCIENTISTS CONFRONT PROBLEMS EVERY
> FUCKING GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED
> FUCKING DAY...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you think that's a little impolite, Clyde? I mean, we all try
to get along so that we all get along...
In life, you get what you give. If you give impoliteness, then
how can you expect any better?
In the old days, when everyone was crass and disrespectful because
life itself was harsh and disrespectful of us, few could learn the arts
of being a gentleman. Today, most of us are gentlemen, so those who do
not exhibit the graces of polite civility just don't get accepted into
polite society. They get the worst jobs because they look and behave the
worst in our society.
My parents were immigrants who'd had their youth interrupted by the
harshness of World War II. they did not learn the full breadth of their
culture. Then at a young age, were plunged into the bottom of the
American Culture with no money and no real understanding of the language
and culture they were surrounded by. Like most Europeans (or at least
those whom we knew), they were gentle and polite; but culturally
different from those around them. They adapted, but didn't quite get
the nuances, remaining in what one might call working culture, closer to
blue collar than white collar despite my father's skills in electrical
and mechanical engineering.
When I was in college, I joined Amway, mostly to learn how to deal
with people and sell my ideas. Unlike most, I didn't join to make
money, though I did expect to. For me, selling became a cover for
Cultural Anthropology of The Americans. I learned a lot about the
calm and polite life of the middle crust.
It might be an interesting thing to you to try, at least if you
can keep yourself calm and reasonably polite. It is the inner calm that
is the key. Have yo tried meditating?
Life is a lot better than you have seen. If you relax and look at
the good parts, you will find that you can partake of more of those good
parts.
It's all up to you, Clyde. You need to put more effort into
deciding whom you want to be in this society, or learning what it is
like to live outside of this society.
I live outside this society, off-grid, isolated on a dirt road,
etc. It's a hard and precarious life. If I had other options...
Compared to me, Clyde, you live in the lap of luxury.
Oh, I dream of the life I use to live before air pollution made me
too sick to stay. It is I who am closer to hanging myself than you,
Clyde. It is I who misses life, knowing how it is from having lived it,
having had great successes and a few failures. I know what I did,
Clyde. I know how my peers appreciated my work, and were sometimes awed
by it.
Just the other day, I asked an old acquaintance if he would vouch
for me on a deal trying to buy a generator for some work. (I have killed
three generators so far, some of them more than once.) His response was
"Make sure he calls me! I don't want you to loose that deal!" When we
work hard together, we leave little pieces of ourselves in each other.
We all feel the pain any one of us has. We all wish to help each other
as best we can.
That is the kind of response that good character and decency
create. You are still young, you can still learn to engender that kind
of response in others.
Ghandi summed it up rather well:
"Be an example of the society you wish to live in."
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Dec 8 15:29:26 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Dec 8 15:29:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051207203443.57882.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051208222926.69125.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
In the old days, when everyone was crass and disrespectful because
life itself was harsh and disrespectful of us, few could learn the arts
of being a gentleman. Today, most of us are gentlemen, so those who do
not exhibit the graces of polite civility just don't get accepted into
polite society. They get the worst jobs because they look and behave the
worst in our society.
My parents were immigrants who'd had their youth interrupted by the
harshness of World War II. they did not learn the full breadth of their
culture. Then at a young age, were plunged into the bottom of the
American Culture with no money and no real understanding of the language
and culture they were surrounded by. Like most Europeans (or at least
those whom we knew), they were gentle and polite; but culturally
different from those around them. They adapted, but didn't quite get
the nuances, remaining in what one might call working culture, closer to
blue collar than white collar despite my father's skills in electrical
and mechanical engineering.
When I was in college, I joined Amway, mostly to learn how to deal
with people and sell my ideas. Unlike most, I didn't join to make
money, though I did expect to. For me, selling became a cover for
Cultural Anthropology of The Americans. I learned a lot about the
calm and polite life of the middle crust.
It might be an interesting thing to you to try, at least if you
can keep yourself calm and reasonably polite. It is the inner calm that
is the key. Have yo tried meditating?
Life is a lot better than you have seen. If you relax and look at
the good parts, you will find that you can partake of more of those good
parts.
It's all up to you, Clyde. You need to put more effort into
deciding whom you want to be in this society, or learning what it is
like to live outside of this society.
I live outside this society, off-grid, isolated on a dirt road,
etc. It's a hard and precarious life. If I had other options...
Compared to me, Clyde, you live in the lap of luxury.
Oh, I dream of the life I use to live before air pollution made me
too sick to stay. It is I who am closer to hanging myself than you,
Clyde. It is I who misses life, knowing how it is from having lived it,
having had great successes and a few failures. I know what I did,
Clyde. I know how my peers appreciated my work, and were sometimes awed
by it.
Just the other day, I asked an old acquaintance if he would vouch
for me on a deal trying to buy a generator for some work. (I have killed
three generators so far, some of them more than once.) His response was
"Make sure he calls me! I don't want you to loose that deal!" When we
work hard together, we leave little pieces of ourselves in each other.
We all feel the pain any one of us has. We all wish to help each other
as best we can.
That is the kind of response that good character and decency
create. You are still young, you can still learn to engender that kind
of response in others.
Ghandi summed it up rather well:
"Be an example of the society you wish to live in."
I'VE DONE MY BEST; AND MY BEST STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH..!
I HAVE LOST ALL HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.
UNLESS MIRACLES HAPPEN:
1. MORALITY REVIVAL..!
2. ENERGY INDEPENDENCE TECHNOLOGIES CURRENTLY
IN THE UNDERGROUND SCIENCES..!
3. DRASTIC HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WAS
SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH; THE
LAST THING I HAVE YET TO GET FOR IT, IS A CONTROL
TIMER; SO IT STILL SITS UNCOMPLETED.
GROWING NELUMBO LOTUS FLOWERS WERE SCHEDULED
TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH AS WELL;
I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO START THE SUCCESSFUL GROWTH OF
ONE LOTUS SEEDLING IN AUGUST, BUT THE PROJECT WAS
RUINED BY MY BIMBO DUMBASS MOTHER, DUE TO SO MUCH
GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED OVERWHELMING FINANCIAL
ECONOMIC SLAVERY STRESS IN MY LIFE..!
FINANCIAL ECONOMIC SLAVERY, DUE TO AN EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM WHICH DOES NOT TEACH FINANCIAL ECONOMIC
INDEPENDENCE FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY;
I'M ALL SCREWED UP NOW; WITH A FUTURE AS BLEAKLY
DARK AS A BLACK HOLE, IN THE DARKEST OF DARKNESS IN
AND THE LOWEST OF LOWNESS VACCUUM OF SPACE.
AMERICA HAS GONE TO HELL.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Dec 8 15:49:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UN-AMERICAN..!
Message-ID: <20051208224935.98824.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
UN-AMERICAN:
1. SEXUAL SLAVERY..! ;
2. FINANCIAL SLAVERY..! ;
3. DRUG SLAVERY..! ;
4. ENERGY SLAVERY..! ;
AND;
5. ANTI REAL ESTATE-SLAVERY..! ;
ARE ALL: UN-AMERICAN..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Dec 8 16:21:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Dec 8 16:22:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051208222926.69125.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 08, 2005 02:29:26 PM
Message-ID: <20051208232158.80576.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Ghandi summed it up rather well:
>
> "Be an example of the society you wish to live in."
>
> I'VE DONE MY BEST; AND MY BEST STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH..!
> I HAVE LOST ALL HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.
Just because you can't does not mean the country can't.
Fact is, most of us can't.
But en mass, enough of us can do small enough things that the
country creeps toward the future.
> UNLESS MIRACLES HAPPEN:
> 1. MORALITY REVIVAL..!
The Catholic Church has been trying for two thousand years! The
couldn't. But the future still comes.
> 2. ENERGY INDEPENDENCE TECHNOLOGIES CURRENTLY
> IN THE UNDERGROUND SCIENCES..!
Ogg the caveman tried. So have lots of people in just about every
era. We've gotten to the infernal combustion engine, the steam turbine,
and a few other things. Plus nuclear. We are creeping forward on this
one.
> 3. DRASTIC HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
What we have is a drastic improvement from the 1800's. Big items
are the cure for tuberculosis, which was rampant, and the bypass
operation. It's even a huge improvement from the 1970's.
We're running forward in this arena.
>
> ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WAS
> SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH; THE
> LAST THING I HAVE YET TO GET FOR IT, IS A CONTROL
> TIMER; SO IT STILL SITS UNCOMPLETED.
Only because you want the perfection of a control timer. There are
many other fail-safe methods you've not tried. Like a wire that pulls
out when your hand falls down by your side.
> GROWING NELUMBO LOTUS FLOWERS WERE SCHEDULED
> TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH AS WELL;
> I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO START THE SUCCESSFUL GROWTH OF
> ONE LOTUS SEEDLING IN AUGUST, BUT THE PROJECT WAS
> RUINED BY MY BIMBO DUMBASS MOTHER, DUE TO SO MUCH
> GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED OVERWHELMING FINANCIAL
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY STRESS IN MY LIFE..!
So what! Try again!
> FINANCIAL ECONOMIC SLAVERY, DUE TO AN EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM WHICH DOES NOT TEACH FINANCIAL ECONOMIC
> INDEPENDENCE FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY;
So how are you educating yourself on financial economics? How many
books have you read???
> I'M ALL SCREWED UP NOW; WITH A FUTURE AS BLEAKLY
> DARK AS A BLACK HOLE, IN THE DARKEST OF DARKNESS IN
Only because you believe in it.
> AND THE LOWEST OF LOWNESS VACCUUM OF SPACE.
> AMERICA HAS GONE TO HELL.
Hardly!
Last night I ran out of electricity because I failed to rebuild a
generator that I was trying to repair. Because I did not understand that
I had to torque a bolt to 60 foot-pounds, a tiny pin in a hollow shaft
broke. I've not been able to replace that, nor get to a place where it
could be repaired. One month, it's sat on my work bench while I
wondered what had really gone wrong, what could be done, and mostly,
went about doing other things. It only became critical Friday, when
the heavy generator failed. (For good, I think.)
Am I a failure for it? Hardly! It's just something I don't
understand very well. I am not what I do. I am not stupid because I
don't understand something, don't have the experience with it. (Even if
it is costly, inconvenient, and frustrating.)
Today, I found a shop that would fix that for maybe $50. It's kind
of expensive at the moment. But the temperature inversion and the air
flowing from San Jose meant that I felt too weak to drive safely. I
could barely waddle around trying to fix a leak in the water system.
Ended up putting that one too, aside for a better day. No running water
till I do that. Air pollution does that to me, making me feel very, very
tired, robbing me of my coordination, making me appear to have advanced
Parkinson's. So another day goes by.
Am I a failure for it? Hardly! Yes, my body is broken in several
ways; but the spirit knows what it is. Patience, and another day...
I have a project I need to turn in for some fair bunch of money if
it works. It involves some AI / genetic algorithms, etc. Because of
lack of electricity, lack of water, lack of a lot of things, I've not
yet even started writing it. I might not even get to it before the guy
gives up.
Am I a failure for it? Not quite; though it really rankles me
that this is the kind of stuff I love to do, the kind of impossible
mission that no one else I know is willing to try.
Time will bring other projects. Perhaps I will be more ready.
You are only a failure if you give up, if you stop trying.
Go read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure Go
read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure for you,
one where everything goes wrong step by step. Even as the purpose fails,
courage and will triumph.
In fact, most of the things you try will not succeed! Hell is
where everything you do succeeds, till you believe that your efforts
have no value.
(Twilight Zone episode, some hood goes to what he thinks is heaven,
till all his heists succeed. It starts to bother him quit a bit! Then
he goes and asks the ruler of this place just what's going on. As he
leaves, he asks if he could try hell. The ruler asks him where he
thinks he is...)
You are only a failure if you do not have the WILL to TRY!!! And
the wisdom to accept that not everything you try will succeed.
Laugh at yourself. Then when laugher makes you feel better, smile,
pick up the pieces, and try again. Or put it off till you figure ouy
why that attempt did not succeed.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Shackleton+endeavor
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 12:06:40 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Dec 10 12:06:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA: MODIFIED..!
Message-ID: <20051210190640.58178.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA OKLAHOMA: MODIFIED..!
OVERZONED, OVERTAXED, OVERBURDONED,
OVERDRUGGED, AND OVERDOSED, WITHOUT
REPRESENTATION..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 12:21:15 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Dec 10 12:21:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUCCESS.
Message-ID: <20051210192115.49096.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
Success is creativity unbridled;
and so fuck my mom and my
dad WITH EQUALITY, like they've
both EQUALLY fucked me..!
So many children are failures
because of the failures of their
parents..!
I reject BOTH my mom and my
dad, WITH EQUALITY..!
Angry;
Clyde
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Dec 10 12:44:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Dec 10 12:45:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUCCESS.
In-Reply-To: <20051210192115.49096.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 10, 2005 11:21:15 AM
Message-ID: <20051210194455.44355.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Success is creativity unbridled;
Creativity without bridle is one of the fastest, splashiest ways of
failing. Followed only by the lack of creativity.
It is the understanding of constraint which brings success.
Sometimes you can step around constraints, though that substantially
raises risks both of failure and of others whom you depend upon stepping
away at critical times. Sometimes you have to stay well within
constraints.
Clyde, are you left handed by chance?
Look at something, then slowly bring your hands together till you
are looking at that something only with one eye. Which eye is it?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Dec 10 12:46:47 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Dec 10 12:46:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA: MODIFIED..!
In-Reply-To: <20051210190640.58178.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 10, 2005 11:06:40 AM
Message-ID: <20051210194647.45219.qmail@mall-net.com>
> OVERZONED, OVERTAXED, OVERBURDONED,
> OVERDRUGGED, AND OVERDOSED, WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION..!
We've heard this before. Look up Shannon (communications theory
guy), his comments about repetitive signals. But don't stop there; he's
got some interesting ideas on communications.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 13:05:49 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Dec 10 13:05:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051208232158.80576.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051210200549.27386.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Ghandi summed it up rather well:
>
> "Be an example of the society you wish to live in."
>
> I'VE DONE MY BEST; AND MY BEST STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH..!
> I HAVE LOST ALL HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.
Just because you can't does not mean the country can't.
Fact is, most of us can't.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU..!
MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT TRYING..!
But en mass, enough of us can do small enough things that the
country creeps toward the future.
OK; YES; BUT THIS COUNTRY IS SO DAMNED DIVIDED
BETWEEN THE LEFT: COMMIES, AND THE RIGHT: NAZI'S,
AND I AM AN INDEPENDENT, AND REJECT BOTH SIDES
OF THE FENCE, BECAUSE BOTH SIDES ABSOLUTELY
GO NOWHERE ABSOLUTELY FAST..!
WHEN WILL WE ALL BE ABLE TO WORK PEACEFULLY,
COOPERATIVELY TOGETHER, TO MOVE THIS COUNTRY
INTO A FORWARD PROGRESSING DIRECTION, INSTEAD
OF THE GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED DESPOTISM
THAT AMERICA HAS BECOME..?
> UNLESS MIRACLES HAPPEN:
> 1. MORALITY REVIVAL..!
The Catholic Church has been trying for two thousand years!
?
RELIGIONS IN GENERAL?
I SEE STAGNATION EN MASS, WITH BOTH POLITICS
AND RELIGION, EQUALLY..!
They couldn't. But the future still comes.
> 2. ENERGY INDEPENDENCE TECHNOLOGIES CURRENTLY
> IN THE UNDERGROUND SCIENCES..!
Ogg the caveman tried. So have lots of people in just about every
era. We've gotten to the infernal combustion engine, the steam turbine,
and a few other things. Plus nuclear. We are creeping forward on this
one.
CREEPING SLOWLY, YET DRIVING FASTLY; STRAIGHT
ON A CRASH COURSE WITH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH.
BUT MAYBE MOST PEOPLE ARE TOO BRAINDEAD TO EVEN
CARE TO CHANGE THAT FACT..?..!
> 3. DRASTIC HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
What we have is a drastic improvement from the 1800's.
YES; TRUE; YET I CAN'T WAIT AROUND FOR THE
TURTLES OF SLOW MOTION PROGRESS; I JUST DO
NOT HAVE THE TIME TO DO SO..!
MY NEURAL ACTIVITY IS AT GAMMA FREQUENCY VELOCITY;
WITH GAMMA NUCLEAR ANGER; LIKE THE HULK; YET
TRAPPED IN THIS HUMAN FRAME OF MYSELF.
Big items are the cure for tuberculosis, which was rampant, and
the bypass operation. It's even a huge improvement from the 1970's.
We're running forward in this arena.
YES; TRUE; I DON'T DISAGREE.
>
> ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WAS
> SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH; THE
> LAST THING I HAVE YET TO GET FOR IT, IS A CONTROL
> TIMER; SO IT STILL SITS UNCOMPLETED.
Only because you want the perfection of a control timer.
YES; AND THERE ARE ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
There are many other fail-safe methods you've not tried. Like a wire
that pulls out when your hand falls down by your side.
I DON'T HAVE ANY TIME TO DO HALF ASSED WORK..!
> GROWING NELUMBO LOTUS FLOWERS WERE SCHEDULED
> TO BE COMPLETED LAST MARCH AS WELL;
> I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO START THE SUCCESSFUL GROWTH OF
> ONE LOTUS SEEDLING IN AUGUST, BUT THE PROJECT WAS
> RUINED BY MY BIMBO DUMBASS MOTHER, DUE TO SO MUCH
> GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED OVERWHELMING FINANCIAL
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY STRESS IN MY LIFE..!
So what! Try again!
OK; I INTEND TO; BUT THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH
GOOD INTENTIONS - MOST PEOPLE APART FROM ME,
SCREW THINGS UP, FOR ME..!
THEY ARE JUST ASKING TO BE BLASTED..!
MAYBE PEOPLE LIKE TO BE BLASTED..?
I DON'T KNOW..?
> FINANCIAL ECONOMIC SLAVERY, DUE TO AN EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM WHICH DOES NOT TEACH FINANCIAL ECONOMIC
> INDEPENDENCE FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY;
So how are you educating yourself on financial economics?
NOT ENOUGH TIME IN EXISTANCE, TO READ ALL OF THE
ENDLESS, WORTHLESS, COMPLICATED GURU NONSENSE..!
How many books have you read???
MY ABILITY TO READ IS GOOD.
MY ABILITY FOR BOOKS TO HOLD MY ATTENTION IS
NO GOOD.
BOOKS FOR ME ARE ONLY GOOD FOR CONSULTING
PURPOSES ONLY; BECAUSE I JUST CANNOT TAKE
THE ENDLESS NEVERENDING RAMBLING EVERGOING
NONSENSE OF BOOKS.
I INTAKE INFORMATION WHICH IS SHORT, TRITE, AND TO
THE POINT.
I SAMPLE A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND DISCARD A LOT
OF MOST OTHER INFORMATION, AS USELESS.
> I'M ALL SCREWED UP NOW; WITH A FUTURE AS BLEAKLY
> DARK AS A BLACK HOLE, IN THE DARKEST OF DARKNESS,
Only because you believe in it.
REALLY?
I AM FAR FROM BEING THE ONLY ONE THEN..!
> AND IN THE LOWEST OF LOWEST OF VACCUUM OF SPACE.
> AMERICA HAS GONE TO HELL.
Hardly!
Last night I ran out of electricity because I failed to rebuild a
generator that I was trying to repair. Because I did not understand that
I had to torque a bolt to 60 foot-pounds, a tiny pin in a hollow shaft
broke. I've not been able to replace that, nor get to a place where it
could be repaired. One month, it's sat on my work bench while I
wondered what had really gone wrong, what could be done, and mostly,
went about doing other things. It only became critical Friday, when
the heavy generator failed. (For good, I think.)
PERHAPS YOU CAN DRILL-BORE THE PIN OUT OF THE HOLE
WHERE THE PIN IS STUCK????
I DON'T KNOW.
Am I a failure for it? Hardly! It's just something I don't
understand very well. I am not what I do. I am not stupid because I
don't understand something, don't have the experience with it. (Even if
it is costly, inconvenient, and frustrating.)
YOU'RE RIGHT..!
Today, I found a shop that would fix that for maybe $50. It's kind
of expensive at the moment. But the temperature inversion and the air
flowing from San Jose meant that I felt too weak to drive safely. I
could barely waddle around trying to fix a leak in the water system.
Ended up putting that one too, aside for a better day. No running water
till I do that. Air pollution does that to me, making me feel very, very
tired, robbing me of my coordination, making me appear to have advanced
Parkinson's. So another day goes by.
Am I a failure for it? Hardly! Yes, my body is broken in several
ways; but the spirit knows what it is.
Patience, and another day...
PATIENCE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO COME BY; AND
ANOTHER DAY IS JUST SO DAMNED DIFFICULT FOR ME
TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR..!
I have a project I need to turn in for some fair bunch of money if
it works. It involves some AI / genetic algorithms, etc.
COOL MAN; I'D LIKE TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THE A.I. AND
THE GENTIC ALGORITHMS, IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL..!
IF RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE TO ME; I'D HAVE
ALREADY EXPERIMENTED WITH CRUDE A.I. A LONG
TIME AGO..!
Because of lack of electricity, lack of water, lack of a lot of things, I've not
yet even started writing it. I might not even get to it before the guy
gives up.
Am I a failure for it? Not quite; though it really rankles me
that this is the kind of stuff I love to do, the kind of impossible
mission that no one else I know is willing to try.
WELL; I'LL TRY TO BE OF ENCOURAGEMENT BACK..!
I HOPE THAT YOU'RE A.I. PROJECT TURNS OUT TO
BE A SUCCESS..!
Time will bring other projects. Perhaps I will be more ready.
You are only a failure if you give up, if you stop trying.
I KNOW; AND THE WAITING TIME BECAUSE OF
ENDLESS FINANCIAL BULLSHIT, MAKES LIFE SO
STRESSFUL..!
Go read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure Go
read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure for you,
one where everything goes wrong step by step. Even as the purpose fails,
courage and will, triumph.
I'D LIKE TO GO WATCH THE NEW MOVIE JUST RELEASED:
NARNIA / THE LION THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE.
In fact, most of the things you try will not succeed! Hell is
where everything you do succeeds, till you believe that your efforts
have no value.
YEAH; LIFE HAS REALLY BECOME HELL..!
LIFE HAS BECOME HELL FOR THE MOST PART.
(Twilight Zone episode, some hood
DID YOU MEAN: HOODLUM????
goes to what he thinks is heaven,
till all his heists succeed. It starts to bother him quit a bit! Then
he goes and asks the ruler of this place just what's going on. As
he leaves, he asks if he could try hell. The ruler asks him where
he thinks he is...)
HMM; WELL; OK....
You are only a failure if you do not have the WILL to TRY!!!
I HAVE THE WILL TO TRY.
FINANCIAL DEFICIENCIES CAUSE A LACKING OF
HAVING THE URGE TO TRY.
And the wisdom to accept that not everything you try will succeed.
I HAVE THE WISDOM THAT I MUST SUCCEED WITHOUT
FAILURE, BECAUSE MY PARENTS HAVE JUST FAILED SO
MUCH; AND I HAVE JUST FAILED SO MUCH TOO; THAT LIKE
THE COVER OF THE AMERICAN IDIOT ALBUM, BY THE
BAND: GREEN DAY; MY HEART FEELS LIKE IT IS GOING TO
ANEURYSM IN MY CHEST AT TIMES; DUE TO SO MUCH
OVERWHELMING PRESSURE, AND AT OTHER TIMES; I JUST
FEEL HEARTLESS; DUE TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND THEIR
ENDLESS 'EVERLASTING' FUCKING GOD DAMNED SHIT..!
SOMETIMES MY HEART HAS LITERALLY FELT LIKE IT
HAS BURST OPEN, AND GUSHED BLOOD ONTO MY CHEST;
DRENCHING THE FRONT OF MY SHIRT WITH A 'WATERFALL-
'BLOODFALL' OF GUSHING BLOOD.
Laugh at yourself. Then when laugher makes you feel better, smile,
pick up the pieces, and try again. Or put it off till you figure out
why that attempt did not succeed.
TIME;
TIME IS A PRISON..!
http://www.google.com/search?q=Shackleton+endeavor
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 18:58:35 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Dec 10 18:58:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SUCCESS;
In-Reply-To: <20051210200549.27386.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051211015835.33305.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
I WENT TO THE GOOGLE WEBLINK BELOW, AND TWO OF
THE BEST LINKS ARE THE FOLLOWING:
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/e/endurance.html
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000065Q9E.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
clyde lofton wrote:
Go read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure Go
read about Shackleton and The Endeavor. There's an adventure for you,
one where everything goes wrong step by step. Even as the purpose fails,
courage a nd will, triumph.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Shackleton+endeavor
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 19:06:03 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Dec 10 19:06:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SHACKLETON, AND OTHER.
In-Reply-To: <20051211015835.33305.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051211020603.66761.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
I'D LIKE TO ALSO GET A COPY OF THAT MOVIE, ON
D.V.D.
ALTHOUGH I CAN PROBABLY RENT IT FROM A LOCAL
BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO STORE.
*I ALSO WANTED TO ASK IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE
BEST APPROACH IS, FOR THE PERMANENT ELIMINATION
OF CANKER SORES?
I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING
IT IN THE PAST; BUT DUE TO SO MUCH ENDLESS
BULLSHIT INTERFERENCE IN MY LIFE, I'VE NEVER GOT
AROUND TO FOLLOWING THROUGH ON CHECKING INTO
CANKER SORE AND PERMANENT CANDIDA SANITAZATION-
-CLEANSING-DETOXIFICATION..!
CLYDE
clyde lofton wrote:
JOHN,
I WENT TO THE GOOGLE WEBLINK BELOW, AND TWO OF
THE BEST LINKS ARE THE FOLLOWING:
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/e/endurance.html
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000065Q9E.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Dec 10 20:00:21 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Dec 10 20:00:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SHACKLETON, AND OTHER.\
In-Reply-To: <20051211020603.66761.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 10, 2005 06:06:03 PM
Message-ID: <20051211030021.80704.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I'D LIKE TO ALSO GET A COPY OF THAT MOVIE, ON
> D.V.D.
> ALTHOUGH I CAN PROBABLY RENT IT FROM A LOCAL
> BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO STORE.
Movie? Read the books.
Movies are junk compared to the books! Utter worthless Junk!
Especially when it comes to some thing like Shackleton and his epic
journey. (I still think it's Endeavor, not Endurance; but I am not sure
why...)
Movies are done for show, to tell an entertaining story, promote
the myth and romance, as well as some brain dead actor's ego; glossing
over the details of WHY and HOW things happen. This is why I go to so
few movies.
Books tend to be more about truth, detail, analysis, etc. You
can't learn much from a movie about an event. You can learn a great deal
from the books about it! Including the differences in the points of
view of multiple authors and people who experienced the same general
events.
Almost all the movies I have seen of the books I have read were not
worth the money I paid to see them. (There are other reasons to see
movies.) The people who create movies are generally stupid, slavishly
striving for visual effects to stimulate emotions. The events they try
to portray are not fundamentally emotional events; they are turning
points of thought, of effort, of stuff you can't see. In a book you see
inside a person's head. In a movie, you see some actor trying to look
heroic. In real life, the person he is trying to represent wasn't
heroic; he was trying to get things Done! For REASON! Only after the
fact, did others say his deeds were heroic.
And when you look at the people, you find that they were often
nothing like the actor in thought, in ability, in orientation, etc.
I find movies are generally stupid!!!
That said, they can, at times, be quite entertaining, fun, etc.
Just don't mistake entertainment for education of any sort what so ever!
Sure, I saw a number of the Star Trek movies, as well as some of
the old classics, which relied on the craft of building characters and
situations over the special effects of today. Some of the stuff is
rather entertaining.
And yes, there are some reasonably decent documentary type movies.
But most of them are full of errors made for the purpose of telling a
story without regard to the reasons WHY the story happened as it did.
(Some DO take effort to lay out why things happen. The Towering
Inferno was one of them; but the book was a heck of a lot better.)
There is some sense that some of the directors may be returning to
the craft of character development; but I doubt with any of the
dedication some of the old masters had. Capra and Jimmy Steward are my
favorites. Charlton Heston was darned good, too; in a different arena.
But Heston IS a character. (Or was, he's sinking with Alzheimer's now.)
They portrayed CHARACTER! They showed you someone you had empathy for;
someone you might find worth emulating some of the attributes of. It
was all about CHARACTER! Character, as someone wrote, is what makes you
do the things that are right, even if you don't really want to. It's
what glues society together with or without technology. Character
makes a person a guide post in whatever storm may come. And in life, we
all face devastating storms from time to time. It is what endures in
memory long after the person has left.
Real characters do not let character get in their way. Rather, the
character is often based upon larger understandings, deep thought,
analysis, and the sense that values and principles are more important
than individuals; for they create the individuals and the society we
live in.
I believe the failure of America is not so much the failure of
morals or the rise of greed; those are but side effects. It is the
failure of parents to instill character in their children. It is not by
punishment that this is done. It is by opportunity to experience the
effects of desire and hard work to fulfill those desires. It is learning
through personal failure as well as success. And by reading of the
lives of people who are honest with themselves about their mistakes;
their failures more than their successes.
Most people today, when the tide of history washes their flesh from
their bones, leave but a few works behind. Real characters endure along
with their works.
> *I ALSO WANTED TO ASK IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE
> BEST APPROACH IS, FOR THE PERMANENT ELIMINATION
> OF CANKER SORES?
I am not a doctor. I like vitamin C crystals, slurry, or ascorbyl
palmitate, an oil form of C for things like that; but acid hurts.
In general, we humans don't get enough vitamin C in our diets.
This is why our immune systems are not as robust as most animals, and
why we swell after injury. However, I suspect that the lack of vitamin
C reduces our tendency toward burning adrenaline to get things done, and
thus may increase our life span as well as limiting it.
> I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING
> IT IN THE PAST; BUT DUE TO SO MUCH ENDLESS
> BULLSHIT INTERFERENCE IN MY LIFE, I'VE NEVER GOT
> AROUND TO FOLLOWING THROUGH ON CHECKING INTO
> CANKER SORE AND PERMANENT CANDIDA SANITAZATION-
> -CLEANSING-DETOXIFICATION..!
Nothing is permanent. One needs to encourage allies, in this case
pro-biotics like acidophilus bacteria; reduction of sweets, etc. The
best book on the topic is the Bantam paperback "The Yeast Syndrome" by
Trowbridge and Walker. Not to be confused with Dr. Truss' "The Yeast
Connection" series, which I think inferior.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 15:29:20 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 11 15:29:26 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SHACKLETON, AND OTHER.\
In-Reply-To: <20051211030021.80704.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051211222920.65912.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I'D LIKE TO ALSO GET A COPY OF THAT MOVIE, ON
> D.V.D.
> ALTHOUGH I CAN PROBABLY RENT IT FROM A LOCAL
> BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO STORE.
Movie? Read the books.
Movies are junk compared to the books! Utter worthless Junk!
Especially when it comes to some thing like Shackleton and his epic
journey. (I still think it's Endeavor, not Endurance; but I am not sure
why...)
Movies are done for show, to tell an entertaining story, promote
the myth and romance, as well as some brain dead actor's ego; glossing
over the details of WHY and HOW things happen. This is why I go to so
few movies.
Books tend to be more about truth, detail, analysis, etc. You
can't learn much from a movie about an event. You can learn a great deal
from the books about it! Including the differences in the points of
view of multiple authors and people who experienced the same general
events.
Almost all the movies I have seen of the books I have read were not
worth the money I paid to see them. (There are other reasons to see
movies.) The people who create movies are generally stupid, slavishly
striving for visual effects to stimulate emotions. The events they try
to portray are not fundamentally emotional events; they are turning
points of thought, of effort, of stuff you can't see. In a book you see
inside a person's head. In a movie, you see some actor trying to look
heroic. In real life, the person he is trying to represent wasn't
heroic; he was trying to get things Done! For REASON! Only after the
fact, did others say his deeds were heroic.
And when you look at the people, you find that they were often
nothing like the actor in thought, in ability, in orientation, etc.
I find movies are generally stupid!!!
I WONDER IF SHACKLETON MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN AUDIO
BOOK FORMAT..?
AUDIO BOOKS ARE WHAT ARE MY TYPE OF FORMAT; ON C.D.
AUDIO....
AUDIO CASSETTES ARE OBSOLETE FOR ME AND MANY OTHERS
TOO.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 15:46:55 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 11 15:47:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..!
Message-ID: <20051211224655.89381.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE:
1. INTERDEPENDENCE IS NOT INDEPENDENCE..!
2. INTERDEPENDENCE IS ANTI INDEPENDENCE..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Dec 11 19:24:38 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Dec 11 19:24:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..!
In-Reply-To: <20051211224655.89381.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 11, 2005 02:46:55 PM
Message-ID: <20051212022438.74834.qmail@mall-net.com>
> INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE:
>
> 1. INTERDEPENDENCE IS NOT INDEPENDENCE..!
>
> 2. INTERDEPENDENCE IS ANTI INDEPENDENCE..!
Ok, so go strip off all your clothes, shoes, even pocket knife, walk
into the woods, and see how long you last as a truly independent
person.
Oops, I forgot -- empty your mind of everything you know about
everything you didn't personally work with. Using the Boy Scout's
Handbook is cheating!
(Kind of cold out there, you know. And bark clothes are kind of,
well, itchy-scratchy.)
The civilized kind of independence, is where you can speak your
mind without worrying about the thought police like they have in so many
other nations like China, Tanzania, most of the African and Asian
kleptocracies, etc.
The civilized independence is where you can decide you don't want
to work for company A anymore, and get a job at company B, or C, or D.
The civilized independence is where you can decide you don't like
grocery store chain A, and so go buy from B, or C, or D.
And yes, just because you ARE in a civilization that give you
independence, , you can buy some camping gear, walk out into the woods
(providing you have an agreement with the owner) and camp out if you
like.
That's what we mean by Independence -- The Right to Choose.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Dec 11 19:38:33 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Dec 11 19:38:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SHACKLETON, AND OTHER.\
In-Reply-To: <20051211222920.65912.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 11, 2005 02:29:20 PM
Message-ID: <20051212023833.87575.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Movie? Read the books.
>
> Movies are junk compared to the books! Utter worthless Junk!
>
> I WONDER IF SHACKLETON MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN AUDIO
> BOOK FORMAT..?
I like to read. I like to go back a few pages, re-read something I
didn't quite get, make notes in the margins, underline well formed
lines, fold down the corners on pages I particularly liked, etc.
Listening is passive, some boring voice droning on at his or her
own rate. Reading is active, it gets you asking questions, flipping
back and forth, working the book for all it's worth. And really
appreciating the author's craft because I can stop, appreciate
something, read it again, repeat it aloud if I like it, etc.
The people who like tapes or CDs are the ones who have long
commutes. But good literature is wasted that way. And if really good,
endangers the driver. You have to imagine what is going on. That's
active.
Yes, I tried Evylin Woods Reading Dynamics and some other
fast-reading junk. JUNK! The slowest reader is the University
Professor. It's not because he's stupid or can't read. It's because he
is thinking about what he is reading about, referencing it to other
things he's read in that area, checking concepts against other concepts,
etc. He's the most active reader because he knows so much. Thus, he
reads slowly to really get at the concepts the person who wrote the book
was thinking about and describing. Speed reading is a waste of time.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Dec 12 14:22:42 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Dec 12 14:22:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..!
In-Reply-To: <20051212022438.74834.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051212212242.14207.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY'S EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM THEN, INTO A HIGH TECH FUNDAMENTALIST
WAY OF INSTRUCTION AND TEACHING?
THE MASS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAS BECOME A
FAILURE FOR THE MASSES OF PEOPLE..!
YES; IT COME DOWN TO THE FUCKING CURRENT EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY..!
CLYDE
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE:
>
> 1. INTERDEPENDENCE IS NOT INDEPENDENCE..!
>
> 2. INTERDEPENDENCE IS ANTI INDEPENDENCE..!
Ok, so go strip off all your clothes, shoes, even pocket knife, walk
into the woods, and see how long you last as a truly independent
person.
Oops, I forgot -- empty your mind of everything you know about
everything you didn't personally work with. Using the Boy Scout's
Handbook is cheating!
(Kind of cold out there, you know. And bark clothes are kind of,
well, itchy-scratchy.)
The civilized kind of independence, is where you can speak your
mind without worrying about the thought police like they have in so many
other nations like China, Tanzania, most of the African and Asian
kleptocracies, etc.
The civilized independence is where you can decide you don't want
to work for company A anymore, and get a job at company B, or C, or D.
The civilized independence is where you can decide you don't like
grocery store chain A, and so go buy from B, or C, or D.
And yes, just because you ARE in a civilization that give you
independence, , you can buy some camping gear, walk out into the woods
(providing you have an agreement with the owner) and camp out if you
like.
That's what we mean by Independence -- The Right to Choose.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Dec 12 14:47:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..! (CORRECTED
FROM PREVIOUS SEND).
In-Reply-To: <20051212212242.14207.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051212214611.5940.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRECTED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY'S EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM THEN, INTO A HIGH TECH FUNDAMENTALIST
WAY OF INSTRUCTION AND TEACHING?
THE MASS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAS BECOME A
FAILURE FOR THE MASSES OF PEOPLE..!
YES; IT COMES DOWN TO THE FUCKING CURRENT
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY..!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Dec 12 16:03:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..!
In-Reply-To: <20051212212242.14207.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 12, 2005 01:22:42 PM
Message-ID: <20051212230306.56856.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY'S EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM THEN, INTO A HIGH TECH FUNDAMENTALIST
> WAY OF INSTRUCTION AND TEACHING?
No.
The true goal, the abandoned true goal of teaching, is to teach the
student to THINK!!! To help the student gain the mechanisms of thought
and reasoning. Knowledge, while useful, is a secondary issue. All the
knowledge in the world is useless unless accessible to a curious and
thinking mind.
Re-ordering a bit...
> YES; IT COME DOWN TO THE FUCKING CURRENT EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY..!
There is no equality in education. People are not equal in mental
ability, in curiosity, tenacity, support, resources, etc. Above all,
it is tenacity and curiosity that make the difference; intelligence,
though critical, is secondary in the greater scheme of things. As for
tenacity, it can work in favor or against a person. Strength of a sense
of self is also important, and is not quite the same as what is
commonly called ego. A person who has a strong sense of self, as I do,
is not so dismayed when he breaks something or finds out that he is
wrong about something.
> THE MASS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAS BECOME A
> FAILURE FOR THE MASSES OF PEOPLE..!
>
First, the education system has failed the educators. They are not
educated to think, so they do not place emphasis on thinking as the
basic form of competence. And with that, they can not but fail the
people.
This is why prep schools are so popular. And a bit better. But
they too, are subject to legal licensing requirements which make the
really able persons unable to teach except in a religious setting.
(Which usually precludes teaching kids to question and think...)
Testing focuses teachers on teaching to the test, and testing can
not test general reasoning capability very well.
And all the rote memorization, etc. basically has no spark compared
to video games and other forms of entertainment, so school becomes the
dullest, most boring part of the day with homework a real chore.
Teaching is the profession for those who can not do anything
useful. It does not pay well enough to attract competent people, does
not test for general competency, etc. It's mostly the wasteland of
people who can't do anything else!
In high school, I was a member of the Future Teacher's Association.
I enjoy teaching. I like the Socratic method, which is harder to do in a
classroom where the students don't want to learn, just to get a passing
grade. I like asking questions, I like seening people start thinking,
getting them to question what they know, etc.
I soon saw that most of the kids who wanted to be teachers were not
what I would call top tier students. With lower ambitions, lower
interests, and a bias against science, they just didn't have much
interest in thinking as a pastime.
The more interesting teachers were older people who had had
non-education careers. I particularly enjoyed LJP's occasional comments
about his experiences as a geologist and how that related to the Earth
Sciences stuff we were studying. He enjoyed his career as a geologist,
and enjoyed talking about it. He lit up the room for me when he would
start one of his monologues on how he mined some opals in Australia, or
investigated this or that mine in South America. Or just the comments
about this or that which he had seen and done as a geologist. He was
happy! That breath of life showed us that a person could be really happy
doing interesting things if he was good at what he did.
KM was a really great guy too, enjoying what he did, enjoying
seeing the occasional spark in a kid. He really enjoyed helping kids
with their projects, or just talking with kids such as myself after
school, helping us understand stuff we were interested in.
LJP and KM were two really bright lights in my high school days,
fanning the flames ES helped start in junior high. (I was already
interested; but ES helped get me asking questions. I wasn't that vocal
a kid, I think, partly because most of the adults around me didn't
accept that I knew more than they did in the technical areas.)
Good education isn't about matching this to that, about repeating
things rote; it's about learning the process of THINKING!
(Read some of Feynman's books. He reams American education for
terrible text books, etc. What he does to South American education
where social status, a key think in Hispanic cultures, is a lot
bloodier.)
The world will toss you curves far, far more often than a straight
path! If you can't see how to climb off the main road and do some
serious bushwhacking, you are just dead meat for any marketer, loan
shark, con artist, etc.! If you CAN climb off the road, bushwhack, then
you don't need a career, because you are the career. You will START
industries! (As have I.)
But a sound understanding of business economics is what makes the
difference between someone who's there first, and someone who stays in
the business. Rare is the person who understands both. Apparently not
me, else I wouldn't be broke. But the fat lady hasn't sung yet, so who
know, I might yet get something out of this life besides personal
satisfaction that I was right about several key things despite what
others kept saying.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
-------------------------------------------------------
Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
-------------------------------------------------------
Another Javilk (tm) brand post.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com
Copyright retained. All rights reserved.
From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Dec 12 18:09:45 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Dec 12 18:09:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Shifting Light Into Reverse
Message-ID: <007f01c5ff81$e7fc68b0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Shifting Light Into Reverse
A new material with a negative index of refraction could lead to new optical
technologies
Ivan Amato
A new nanomaterial of minuscule gold rods embedded in glass manipulates
light passing through it like no naturally occurring substance (Opt. Lett.
2005, 30, 3356). Potential payoffs, say the Purdue University inventors of
the material, are optical microscopes that can image molecules and
photolithography processes that can sculpt more components onto silicon
chips.
The phase, or wave motion, of certain light passing through the new material
ends up traveling backward even as the light itself moves forward-a dynamic
akin to peddling backward on a coasting bike, the researchers explain. In
2001, when scientists made the first material structure with this trait
known as negative index of refraction, it was a sensation because it was the
first demonstration of a long-predicted phenomenon. It only worked with
longish-wavelength microwave radiation, however.
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i50/8350material.html
From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Dec 12 18:13:31 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Dec 12 18:13:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Super Sponges Soak Up CO2
Message-ID: <008001c5ff82$6f024be0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Super Sponges Soak Up CO2
Custom-designed porous compounds exhibit unprecedented gas uptake
MITCH JACOBY
Imagine a supersponge capable of soaking up vast quantities of carbon
dioxide in the exhaust gas of power plants or in automobile tailpipe
emissions. Such a sponge might be useful in new procedures for
greenhouse-gas cleanup that are more efficient and cost-effective than
current methods, which include treatment with aqueous solutions.
Using chemical synthesis, researchers at the University of Michigan, Ann
Arbor, have created a whole family of gas-gobbling sponges. The materials,
which are known as metal-organic framework (MOF) compounds, are stable,
crystalline, porous substances consisting of metal clusters joined by
organic linker groups. In earlier studies, the researchers characterized the
crystals' structures and surface areas. Now they report that MOFs are
well-suited to trapping CO2. One of the compounds, MOF-177, has a
room-temperature CO2 capacity of 140 weight % (33.5 mmol per g) at moderate
pressure (about 30 bar), which far exceeds the CO2 storage capacity of any
other porous material (J. Am. Chem. Soc., 2005, 127, 17998).
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i50/8350notw8.html
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 13 14:50:57 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 13 20:22:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERDEPENDENCE AND INDEPENDENCE..!
In-Reply-To: <20051212230306.56856.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051213215057.18856.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY'S EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM THEN, INTO A HIGH TECH FUNDAMENTALIST
> WAY OF INSTRUCTION AND TEACHING?
No.
JUST ONE MAN'S OPINION THOUGH..!
I HAVE SEEN A MISERABLE GLIMPSE OF THE
DOWNTRODDEN AND OPPRESSED SIDE OF
REALITY FOR SO MANY MANY PEOPLE.
I SHOULD EXPAND MY LIST TO SAY:
1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC EDUCATION SYSTEM
RESTRUCTURING / REVIVAL..!
3. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC CHANGE TO THE
LONG LONG OVERDUE, ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE
INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATING
TECHNOLOGY ALTERNATIVES..!
AND;
4. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC HEALTHCARE REFORM -
IMPROVEMENT..!
The true goal, the abandoned true goal of teaching, is to teach the
student to THINK!!! To help the student gain the mechanisms of thought
and reasoning. Knowledge, while useful, is a secondary issue. All the
knowledge in the world is useless unless accessible to a curious and
thinking mind.
Re-ordering a bit...
> YES; IT COME DOWN TO THE FUCKING CURRENT EDUCATIONAL
> SYSTEM FOR EVERYONE: EQUALLY..!
There is no equality in education.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU..!
FAVORITISM EXISTS; BUT I DOESN'T HAVE
TO BE THAT WAY..!
People are not equal in mental ability, in curiosity, tenacity, support,
resources, etc. Above all, it is tenacity and curiosity that make the
difference; intelligence, though critical, is secondary in the greater
scheme of things. As for tenacity, it can work in favor or against a
person. Strength of a sense of self is also important, and is not quite
the same as what is commonly called ego. A person who has a
strong sense of self, as I do, is not so dismayed when he breaks
something or finds out that he is wrong about something.
> THE MASS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAS BECOME A
> FAILURE FOR THE MASSES OF PEOPLE..!
>
First, the education system has failed the educators. They are not
educated to think, so they do not place emphasis on thinking as the
basic form of competence. And with that, they can not but fail the
people.
This is why prep schools are so popular. And a bit better. But
they too, are subject to legal licensing requirements which make the
really able persons unable to teach except in a religious setting.
(Which usually precludes teaching kids to question and think...)
Testing focuses teachers on teaching to the test, and testing can
not test general reasoning capability very well.
And all the rote memorization, etc. basically has no spark compared
to video games and other forms of entertainment, so school becomes the
dullest, most boring part of the day with homework a real chore.
Teaching is the profession for those who can not do anything
useful. It does not pay well enough to attract competent people, does
not test for general competency, etc. It's mostly the wasteland of
people who can't do anything else!
In high school, I was a member of the Future Teacher's Association.
I enjoy teaching. I like the Socratic method, which is harder to do in a
classroom where the students don't want to learn, just to get a passing
grade. I like asking questions, I like seening people start thinking,
getting them to question what they know, etc.
I soon saw that most of the kids who wanted to be teachers were not
what I would call top tier students. With lower ambitions, lower
interests, and a bias against science, they just didn't have much
interest in thinking as a pastime.
The more interesting teachers were older people who had had
non-education careers. I particularly enjoyed LJP's occasional comments
about his experiences as a geologist and how that related to the Earth
Sciences stuff we were studying. He enjoyed his career as a geologist,
and enjoyed talking about it. He lit up the room for me when he would
start one of his monologues on how he mined some opals in Australia, or
investigated this or that mine in South America. Or just the comments
about this or that which he had seen and done as a geologist. He was
happy! That breath of life showed us that a person could be really happy
doing interesting things if he was good at what he did.
KM was a really great guy too, enjoying what he did, enjoying
seeing the occasional spark in a kid. He really enjoyed helping kids
with their projects, or just talking with kids such as myself after
school, helping us understand stuff we were interested in.
LJP and KM were two really bright lights in my high school days,
fanning the flames ES helped start in junior high. (I was already
interested; but ES helped get me asking questions. I wasn't that vocal
a kid, I think, partly because most of the adults around me didn't
accept that I knew more than they did in the technical areas.)
Good education isn't about matching this to that, about repeating
things rote; it's about learning the process of THINKING!
(Read some of Feynman's books.
YEAH; I SAW A FEYNMAN AUDIO BOOK AT THE LOCAL
BARNES AND NOBLE BOOKSTORE.
I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THAT.
He reams American education for
terrible text books, etc. What he does to South American education
where social status, a key think in Hispanic cultures, is a lot
bloodier.)
The world will toss you curves far, far more often than a straight
path! If you can't see how to climb off the main road and do some
serious bushwhacking, you are just dead meat for any marketer, loan
shark, con artist, etc.! If you CAN climb off the road, bushwhack, then
you don't need a career, because you are the career. You will START
industries! (As have I.)
OK; AMERICAN INDUSTRY NEEDS A MAJOR KICK IN THE
ASS..!
I'M ABOUT TO GO TO THE GOVERNMENT AND HOLD A
CARDBOARD SIGN, SAYING: WILL WORK FOR FOOD,
MONEY, AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE FUTURE OF
AMERICA..!
I'D RATHER NOT WORK FOR THE GOV'T, BUT WHAT DOES
ONE DO, WHEN THEY ARE SOAKED FOR ALL THAT THEY'VE
GOT, WITH NO HOPE FOR A POSITIVE FUTURE, STRUGGLING
FOR INDEPENDENCE / SUCCESS..?
But a sound understanding of business economics is what makes the
difference between someone who's there first, and someone who stays in
the business. Rare is the person who understands both. Apparently not
me, else I wouldn't be broke. But the fat lady hasn't sung yet, so who
know, I might yet get something out of this life besides personal
satisfaction that I was right about several key things despite what
others kept saying.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 13 20:28:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Shifting Light Into Reverse
In-Reply-To: <007f01c5ff81$e7fc68b0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051213220135.36354.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
COOL MAN..!
Michael Best wrote:
Shifting Light Into Reverse
A new material with a negative index of refraction could lead to new optical
technologies
Ivan Amato
A new nanomaterial of minuscule gold rods embedded in glass manipulates
light passing through it like no naturally occurring substance (Opt. Lett.
2005, 30, 3356). Potential payoffs, say the Purdue University inventors of
the material, are optical microscopes that can image molecules and
photolithography processes that can sculpt more components onto silicon
chips.
The phase, or wave motion, of certain light passing through the new material
ends up traveling backward even as the light itself moves forward-a dynamic
akin to peddling backward on a coasting bike, the researchers explain. In
2001, when scientists made the first material structure with this trait
known as negative index of refraction, it was a sensation because it was the
first demonstration of a long-predicted phenomenon. It only worked with
longish-wavelength microwave radiation, however.
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i50/8350material.html
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From: Igor at Mad-Scientists.ORG (Igor)
Date: Tue Dec 13 21:07:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] System problems
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 20:40:11 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 20:40:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
Message-ID: <20051217034011.42106.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 16 20:47:10 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 20:47:29 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217034011.42106.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 16, 2005 07:40:11 PM
Message-ID: <20051217034710.41712.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE..!
Why would you ever want to be a drug addict? I mean, just look at
those losers! they are willing to kill for their next fix.
You're above that. You are not driven insane by you cravings. You
are still a civilized human being with a soul that respects humanity.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
-------------------------------------------------------
Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
-------------------------------------------------------
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Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com
Copyright retained. All rights reserved.
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 20:48:11 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 20:48:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217034011.42106.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051217034811.19817.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
ADDING TO IT:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
CLYDE
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From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Fri Dec 16 20:56:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217034811.19817.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051217035542.47947.qmail@web51015.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
Don't give the bastards the satisfaction.
Don't quit. Don't ever quit.
consider Tulsa the Forge from which you hammer and
temper your mind and soul into your tools and weapons.
Rise above the dust of tulsa, and win.
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> ADDING TO IT:
>
> clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
>
> CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 21:10:19 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:10:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217034710.41712.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051217041019.52161.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE..!
Why would you ever want to be a drug addict?
ACTUALLY, I WANT TO BE AN ANTI-DRUG ADDICT.
THE PAINFUL STRESS THAT IS INVOLVED IN THE
EVER CONTINUING-EVER STRIVING TO BE AND
TO DO BETTER, IS JUST SO PAINFUL, THAT I
FEEL LIKE THE PAIN, SUFFERING - STRESS WILL
NEVER COME TO A PEACEFUL, AND PERFECT
END IN MY LIFE.
I DESPERATELY NEED LASTING PEACE IN MY
LIFE.
I mean, just look at those losers! they are willing to
kill for their next fix.
You're above that. You are not driven insane by your cravings.
You are still a civilized human being with a soul that respects
humanity.
YES; I STILL RESPECT HUMANITY; THOUGH SO MANY
FOLKS OUT THERE AROUND HERE, THINK THAT I AM
A REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.
BUT THEY'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG.
THEY DON'T KNOW ME AT ALL..!
AND YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT THE THOUGHT POLICE
IN PAST REPLIES; WELL I HAVE A STRONG FEELING
THAT BROADBAND OVER THE POWERLINE IS BEING USED
AGAINST ME, AS SPYING ON ME, BY THE F.C.C., ETC....,
THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT,
DUE TO FOREVER HALF ASSED-INSUFFICIENT EQUIPMENT,
BECAUSE OF FOREVER INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES THAT
ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
YES; BUT ONE HAS TO BE CAUTIOUS OF 'EVERLASTING'
DANGERS.
Fear destroys life.
YES; WELL OK; IT DOES.
Destroy your fear and live.
HOW DOES ONE DESTROY FEAR, WHEN THE POTENTIALS
FOR PAIN, SUFFERING, AND TRADGEDY ALWAYS EXIST
IN LIFE; AROUND EVERY TURN; AROUND EVERY CORNER;
AROUND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY?
I'M SO TIRED....
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 21:10:42 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:10:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217034710.41712.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051217041042.17055.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE..!
Why would you ever want to be a drug addict?
ACTUALLY, I WANT TO BE AN ANTI-DRUG ADDICT.
THE PAINFUL STRESS THAT IS INVOLVED IN THE
EVER CONTINUING-EVER STRIVING TO BE AND
TO DO BETTER, IS JUST SO PAINFUL, THAT I
FEEL LIKE THE PAIN, SUFFERING - STRESS WILL
NEVER COME TO A PEACEFUL, AND PERFECT
END IN MY LIFE.
I DESPERATELY NEED LASTING PEACE IN MY
LIFE.
I mean, just look at those losers! they are willing to
kill for their next fix.
You're above that. You are not driven insane by your cravings.
You are still a civilized human being with a soul that respects
humanity.
YES; I STILL RESPECT HUMANITY; THOUGH SO MANY
FOLKS OUT THERE AROUND HERE, THINK THAT I AM
A REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.
BUT THEY'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG.
THEY DON'T KNOW ME AT ALL..!
AND YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT THE THOUGHT POLICE
IN PAST REPLIES; WELL I HAVE A STRONG FEELING
THAT BROADBAND OVER THE POWERLINE IS BEING USED
AGAINST ME, AS SPYING ON ME, BY THE F.C.C., ETC....,
THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT,
DUE TO FOREVER HALF ASSED-INSUFFICIENT EQUIPMENT,
BECAUSE OF FOREVER INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES THAT
ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
YES; BUT ONE HAS TO BE CAUTIOUS OF 'EVERLASTING'
DANGERS.
Fear destroys life.
YES; WELL OK; IT DOES.
Destroy your fear and live.
HOW DOES ONE DESTROY FEAR, WHEN THE POTENTIALS
FOR PAIN, SUFFERING, AND TRADGEDY ALWAYS EXIST
IN LIFE; AROUND EVERY TURN; AROUND EVERY CORNER;
AROUND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY?
I'M SO TIRED....
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 21:21:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:21:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217035542.47947.qmail@web51015.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051217042129.37586.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
Don't give the bastards the satisfaction.
Don't quit. Don't ever quit.
Consider Tulsa the Forge from which you hammer and
temper your mind and soul into your tools and weapons.
ALRIGHT.
Rise above the dust of tulsa, and win.
I HOPE THERE'S HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS
INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN; BECAUSE LIKE I'VE
SAID IT ALREADY: TULSA IS OVERZONED; OVERTAXED;
OVERDRUGGED; AND OVERDOSED; ALL: WITHOUT
REPRESENTATION..!
I WANT TO MOVE, AND TO MOVE TO A PLACE WHERE
ONLY SERENITY EXISTS.
THE FUTURE OF THIS SLUM TOWN ALWAYS LOOKS
SO DREARY; EVERLASTING INSANE VERTIGO: TULSA
TIME..!
CLYDE
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
ADDING TO IT:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
CLYDE
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 21:29:23 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:29:29 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217042129.37586.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051217042923.97993.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
serenity is more a state of mind, than anything
else...
a smart mad scientist uses the tools around him to
build his/her creations in an efficient manner.
In Eastern Shore, Maryland, I build a cheap wind
tunnel in the front yard. I built it from angle irons,
house fans, and a dance room smoke generator.
use the tools/things around tulsa to build your goals.
Bob (getting his mental kung fu on)
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Clyde,
>
> Don't give the bastards the satisfaction.
> Don't quit. Don't ever quit.
>
> Consider Tulsa the Forge from which you hammer and
> temper your mind and soul into your tools and
> weapons.
>
> ALRIGHT.
>
> Rise above the dust of tulsa, and win.
>
> I HOPE THERE'S HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS
> INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN; BECAUSE LIKE I'VE
> SAID IT ALREADY: TULSA IS OVERZONED; OVERTAXED;
> OVERDRUGGED; AND OVERDOSED; ALL: WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION..!
> I WANT TO MOVE, AND TO MOVE TO A PLACE WHERE
> ONLY SERENITY EXISTS.
> THE FUTURE OF THIS SLUM TOWN ALWAYS LOOKS
> SO DREARY; EVERLASTING INSANE VERTIGO: TULSA
> TIME..!
>
> CLYDE
>
> Bob
>
> --- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> ADDING TO IT:
>
> clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
>
> CLYDE
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 21:38:52 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:38:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] P.O.D. VS. PANTERA.
Message-ID: <20051217043852.12680.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
P.O.D. :
http://www.payableondeath.com/
VS.
PANTERA:
http://www.officialpantera.com
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 16 21:49:03 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 21:49:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217041042.17055.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 16, 2005 08:10:42 PM
Message-ID: <20051217044903.8583.qmail@mall-net.com>
> ACTUALLY, I WANT TO BE AN ANTI-DRUG ADDICT.
> THE PAINFUL STRESS THAT IS INVOLVED IN THE
> EVER CONTINUING-EVER STRIVING TO BE AND
> TO DO BETTER, IS JUST SO PAINFUL, THAT I
> FEEL LIKE THE PAIN, SUFFERING - STRESS WILL
> NEVER COME TO A PEACEFUL, AND PERFECT
> END IN MY LIFE.
Most lives end less than pleasantly. So what? Live the life you
have so that when the end comes, you feel life was worth the living of
it. Live it so that you know you added to the game of life, making this
world a better place. For that is what warms the soul far more than
anything else! Some do it by having and raising responsible kids,
others by contributing inventions, managing important companies, etc.
You... you still have much life to live, much that you can do.
> I DESPERATELY NEED LASTING PEACE IN MY
> LIFE.
Why? Do you think many people have it? The brightest live on
chaos, dancing ahead of it most of the time.
> You're above that. You are not driven insane by your cravings.
>
> You are still a civilized human being with a soul that respects
> humanity.
>
> YES; I STILL RESPECT HUMANITY; THOUGH SO MANY
> FOLKS OUT THERE AROUND HERE, THINK THAT I AM
> A REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.
> BUT THEY'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG.
> THEY DON'T KNOW ME AT ALL..!
We don't know most people. What we do expect out of them is
civilized behavior. And with that, we reciprocate. And from that
give-and-take, come friendships, collaborations, etc. Most of life is a
series of collaborations with others, be they relatives, inlaws, bosses,
etc. (And hopefully no outlaws.)
> AND YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT THE THOUGHT POLICE
> IN PAST REPLIES; WELL I HAVE A STRONG FEELING
> THAT BROADBAND OVER THE POWERLINE IS BEING USED
> AGAINST ME, AS SPYING ON ME, BY THE F.C.C., ETC....,
Well, if you don't put signals into it, they won't have signals to
look at, will they?
> THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT,
> DUE TO FOREVER HALF ASSED-INSUFFICIENT EQUIPMENT,
> BECAUSE OF FOREVER INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES THAT
> ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
Clyde, you are a small fish. As long as you don't do anything
grossly illegal, you don't merit a moment's notice by the folks chasing
errorist leads.
> Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
>
> YES; BUT ONE HAS TO BE CAUTIOUS OF 'EVERLASTING'
> DANGERS.
Worry about the things you can change. The things you can't
change... you defy. (Yes, it's a cheap defiance, one without causing too
many waves.)
> Fear destroys life.
>
> YES; WELL OK; IT DOES.
>
> Destroy your fear and live.
>
> HOW DOES ONE DESTROY FEAR, WHEN THE POTENTIALS
> FOR PAIN, SUFFERING, AND TRADGEDY ALWAYS EXIST
> IN LIFE; AROUND EVERY TURN; AROUND EVERY CORNER;
> AROUND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY?
Am I worried about what will likely be progressive neural
degeneration? Neuropathy is quite likely a long term outcome for my
condition. Some say it is like being permanently immersed in fire, and
they either dope themselves up on prescription meds, or they go utterly
crazy. Often both.
I know I will probably have to take my own life, that there will
come a time when this will be the cleanest, most responsible thing that
I will have to do.
Till then, aside from taking reasonable steps to minimize the
damage, I am not worried about it. I have a plan for what to do when it
comes. I will make a neat exit, probably in a bath tub to minimize the
cleanup needed. I know others who have taken similar measures to be
ready when it comes due to cancer and other ailments. Having a plan in
place is good, reassuring.
But having that plan in place (not the tools), lets me NOT worry
about it. I am free to do what I feel worth while. Life is worth the
living of it!!!
And so, I try to live a life worth living, for me, for the people
I know, etc. But mostly because I have great faith in humanity and in
the future. I might get lucky. I might not get enough neuropathy to
end up in pain. But even if I do, humanity must go on.
History shows us that the future is better than the past. It is
better because each of us tries to make it better, by adding to it, by
opposing bad things, by inspiring others, etc.
Humanity goes on. We are privileged to partake in it.
If you are a gift to society, society will be a gift to you.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 16 22:02:14 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:02:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217042923.97993.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Dec 16, 2005 08:29:23 PM
Message-ID: <20051217050214.19010.qmail@mall-net.com>
> serenity is more a state of mind, than anything
> else...
This is true. If you want bliss and serenity, you can train your
mind to produce it. Thousands of Buddhists try this every day! And
from what I've seen, most succeed.
I think it a waste of time, resources, etc. Happy people don't make
history. While I don't want to be particularly un-happy, mild
disaffection for my present state isn't that bad a price to pay for
motivating me to improve it.
> a smart mad scientist uses the tools around him to
> build his/her creations in an efficient manner.
And part of that is to avoid the quest for perfection till one
really knows perfection is worth while. Why spend tens of thousands of
dollars for a granite optical table when a section of sandstone
mountaintop will do for the preliminary proof of concept?
(Hypothetical example)
> In Eastern Shore, Maryland, I build a cheap wind
> tunnel in the front yard. I built it from angle irons,
> house fans, and a dance room smoke generator.
Cute!
> use the tools/things around tulsa to build your goals.
>
> Bob (getting his mental kung fu on)
I like that, mental kung fu. I prefer Tai Chi myself, for it is a
rich matrix of options; but the point is the same -- use you brains
instead of money.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 22:03:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:03:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217042923.97993.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051217050350.60790.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
Serenity is more a state of mind, than anything
else...
THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE, MOST OF
THE TIME NOW, IN MY LIFE.
A smart mad scientist uses the tools around him to
build his/her creations in an efficient manner.
YEAH; EFFICIENCY IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME;
BUT MY DETAILED PERFECTIONISM IS ALWAYS
AN ENDLESS OBSTACLE IN MY OWN PATH.
In Eastern Shore, Maryland, I built a cheap wind
tunnel in the front yard. I built it from angle irons,
house fans, and a dance room smoke generator.
YEAH; I'VE WANTED TO EXPERIMENT WITH A
SMALL SCALE WIND TUNNEL WITH MY
ANEMOMETER; ALTHOUGH I JUST REMEMBERED
THE OTHER DAY THAT I STILL HAVE A GOOD
OLD INDUSTRIAL FAN THAT I CAN USE, IN
COMBINATION WITH A LARGE DIAMETER PIPE;
THOUGH MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS TO USE
THE FAN WITH A HIGH QUALITY AIR FILTER, AND
TO FINALLY EXPERIMENT WITH SOME INDOOR
AIR FILTRATION TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW
MUCH DUST THAT I CAN COLLECT FROM THE INDOOR
AIR, IN A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME.
THOUGH ON THE OTHER HAND; I WANT TO DO AN
AUDIO FREQUENCY MODULATION EXPERIMENT
WITH THE ANEMOMETER; THOUGH I NEED SOME
SORT OF FREQUENCY CONVERTER; ELECTRONIC;
ELECTROMECHANICAL; OR HIGH CURRENT AND
HIGHER VOLTAGE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOOK FOR AN AUDIO
FREQUENCY SPECTRUM CONVERTER, SINCE I
HAVE BEEN UNDER SO MUCH ENDLESS
HARRASSMENT BY MY NEIGHBORS.
Use the tools/things around tulsa to build your goals.
YEAH; THOUGH MY TOOLS AND THINGS ARE MOSTLY
IN INSUFFICIENT SUPPLY.
CLYDE (WONDERING HOW RICH PEOPLE STAY
RICH)
Bob (getting his mental kung fu on)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 16 22:14:57 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:15:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDING TO IT:
In-Reply-To: <20051217050350.60790.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 16, 2005 09:03:50 PM
Message-ID: <20051217051457.27479.qmail@mall-net.com>
> A smart mad scientist uses the tools around him to
> build his/her creations in an efficient manner.
>
> YEAH; EFFICIENCY IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME;
> BUT MY DETAILED PERFECTIONISM IS ALWAYS
> AN ENDLESS OBSTACLE IN MY OWN PATH.
But what do you mean by efficiency? Back in the old days of
mainframe computers, it was worth sweating the efficiency of the code.
Today, efficiency is a matter of the time the human spends, not the
machine.
Given your resources, I think the term efficiency is better applied
to your resources than the efficiency of some proof-of-concept that you
are working on.
> ANEMOMETER; ALTHOUGH I JUST REMEMBERED
> THE OTHER DAY THAT I STILL HAVE A GOOD
> OLD INDUSTRIAL FAN THAT I CAN USE, IN
> COMBINATION WITH A LARGE DIAMETER PIPE;
One has to have a set of turbulence damping narrower passages after
the fan to get laminar flow. We looked at this when we were launching
rockets.
> THOUGH MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS TO USE
> THE FAN WITH A HIGH QUALITY AIR FILTER, AND
> TO FINALLY EXPERIMENT WITH SOME INDOOR
> AIR FILTRATION TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW
> MUCH DUST THAT I CAN COLLECT FROM THE INDOOR
> AIR, IN A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME.
> THOUGH ON THE OTHER HAND; I WANT TO DO AN
> AUDIO FREQUENCY MODULATION EXPERIMENT
> WITH THE ANEMOMETER; THOUGH I NEED SOME
> SORT OF FREQUENCY CONVERTER; ELECTRONIC;
> ELECTROMECHANICAL; OR HIGH CURRENT AND
> HIGHER VOLTAGE.
How about having the anemometer generate the frequency by the
movement of teeth on a gear wheel past some sensors. Optical sensors
would be nice; but for the proof of concept, you can use a simple
electrical contact.
> I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOOK FOR AN AUDIO
> FREQUENCY SPECTRUM CONVERTER, SINCE I
> HAVE BEEN UNDER SO MUCH ENDLESS
> HARRASSMENT BY MY NEIGHBORS.
What are they doing to you? Or is it simply that you believe they
are doing, thus set up self-fulfilling prophecies?
Your transaction with that neighbor, which you posted some time
ago, sounded rather benign compared to what I have seen in other places.
Often, the best revenge is to simply ignore them.
> CLYDE (WONDERING HOW RICH PEOPLE STAY
> RICH)
they don't do anything that would spend money. But that reduces
their greatness.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 16 22:35:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:35:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217044903.8583.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051217053510.5174.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
And so, I try to live a life worth living, for me, for the people
I know, etc. But mostly because I have great faith in humanity and
in the future. I might get lucky. I might not get enough neuropathy
to end up in pain. But even if I do, humanity must go on.
History shows us that the future is better than the past. It is
better because each of us tries to make it better, by adding to it,
by opposing bad things, by inspiring others, etc.
EVEN THOUGH I AM CERTAIN NOW THAT ALL OF MY
HARD WORK AT THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE
ENTRAINMENT PROJECT HAS BEEN STOLEN BY SPYWARE
FOLKS; I REALLY DON'T GIVE A DAMN; BECAUSE IT IS
PUBLIC DOMAIN MATERIAL ANYWAY; SO WHY CARE?
IT'S JUST SO DAMNED NERVE WRACKING THAT I'VE ALWAYS
HAD SO MUCH INTERFERENCE FROM ALL OF THE STUPID
PEOPLE, THINKING THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
SOMETHING HARMFUL.
ALL THAT THE STUPID PEOPLE KNOW, IS OF THE EXISTANCE
OF HIGH FREQUENCY SPECTRUM ENERGY - NUCLEAR
ENERGY.
THEY HAVE ABSOLUTE ZERO COMPREHENSION OF LOW
FREQUENCY - NON NUCLEAR - ANTI NUCLEAR - RADIO
SCIENCE.
ALL THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, IS OF THE PRIESTHOOD
OF THE NUCLEAR RADIO SCIENTISTS; LIKE EINSTEIN;
FEYNMAN; KAKU; ETC....
THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS OUT THERE, LIKE
TESLA; STEINMETZ; ARMSTRONG; DE FOREST; FARNSWORTH;
AND OTHERS.
Humanity goes on. We are privileged to partake in it.
YEAH; BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS, THAT THE WORLD IS FULL
OF STUPID PEOPLE..!
If you are a gift to society, society will be a gift to you.
GOOD..!
I HOPE THAT ALL OF MY STOLEN INFORMATION REGARDING
E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS OF HELP, TO ALL OF
SOCIETY..!
ALL OF THAT HARD WORK NEEDS TO BE OF BENEFIT TO
EVERYONE..!
I CAN'T MAKE MONEY AT IT; BUT I DON'T CARE ANYMORE..!
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Dec 16 22:37:10 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:37:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Adding to it???
Message-ID: <006001c602cb$ed9e77c0$6401a8c0@mikey>
> One has to have a set of turbulence damping narrower passages after
> the fan to get laminar flow. We looked at this when we were launching
> rockets.
However, the true power comes from mastery of the turbulence!
Remember- without mastering turbulence the bee could not fly, and we would
have no honey.
-MB
From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 16 22:58:53 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 22:59:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <20051217053510.5174.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 16, 2005 09:35:10 PM
Message-ID: <20051217055853.81654.qmail@mall-net.com>
> And so, I try to live a life worth living, for me, for the people
> I know, etc. But mostly because I have great faith in humanity and
> in the future. I might get lucky. I might not get enough neuropathy
> to end up in pain. But even if I do, humanity must go on.
>
> History shows us that the future is better than the past. It is
> better because each of us tries to make it better, by adding to it,
> by opposing bad things, by inspiring others, etc.
>
> EVEN THOUGH I AM CERTAIN NOW THAT ALL OF MY
> HARD WORK AT THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE
> ENTRAINMENT PROJECT HAS BEEN STOLEN BY SPYWARE
> FOLKS; I REALLY DON'T GIVE A DAMN; BECAUSE IT IS
> PUBLIC DOMAIN MATERIAL ANYWAY; SO WHY CARE?
Exactly. A doctor in New Rochelle, New York gave a talk on this
years ago, about how he treated many brain wasting diseases by using
this method.
> IT'S JUST SO DAMNED NERVE WRACKING THAT I'VE ALWAYS
> HAD SO MUCH INTERFERENCE FROM ALL OF THE STUPID
> PEOPLE, THINKING THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
> SOMETHING HARMFUL.
Who cares! Ignore them!
> ALL THAT THE STUPID PEOPLE KNOW, IS OF THE EXISTANCE
> OF HIGH FREQUENCY SPECTRUM ENERGY - NUCLEAR
> ENERGY.
> THEY HAVE ABSOLUTE ZERO COMPREHENSION OF LOW
> FREQUENCY - NON NUCLEAR - ANTI NUCLEAR - RADIO
> SCIENCE.
So?
> ALL THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, IS OF THE PRIESTHOOD
> OF THE NUCLEAR RADIO SCIENTISTS; LIKE EINSTEIN;
> FEYNMAN; KAKU; ETC....
Um, just because there is nuclear power does not preclude other
forms of power. We do have Hoover Dam, and a huge number of other dams
and hydropower sources which produce a significant portion of ou
national energy
> THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS OUT THERE, LIKE
> TESLA; STEINMETZ; ARMSTRONG; DE FOREST; FARNSWORTH;
> AND OTHERS.
Sure they do. Farnsworth just wasn't break even.
> Humanity goes on. We are privileged to partake in it.
>
> YEAH; BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS, THAT THE WORLD IS FULL
> OF STUPID PEOPLE..!
So What!!! Do you want your garbageman to have to have a PhD to take
out you trash? DO you want your bus driver to have a PhD in cartography
and mechanical engineering?
If they did, they would REVOLT at the mind numbing work!!!
Stupid people are useful. Be kind to them, they grow the food you
eat, build the homes you live in, the cars you drive, etc. Without
stupid people, we smart folks would have to dumb ourselves down in order
to do the work we need to survive!
> If you are a gift to society, society will be a gift to you.
>
> GOOD..!
> I HOPE THAT ALL OF MY STOLEN INFORMATION REGARDING
> E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS OF HELP, TO ALL OF
> SOCIETY..!
> ALL OF THAT HARD WORK NEEDS TO BE OF BENEFIT TO
> EVERYONE..!
> I CAN'T MAKE MONEY AT IT; BUT I DON'T CARE ANYMORE..!
Good, just make it work for yourself.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Dec 18 06:19:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 18 06:21:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO BOOKS.....
Message-ID: <20051218131925.84900.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
WHY THE JESUS SEMINAR CAN'T FIND JESUS, AND GRANDMA
MARSHALL COULD (A POPULIST DEFENSE OF THE GOSPELS).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0970227825/qid=1134909223/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-8227065-3083143?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
TOWER OF BABEL: THE EVIDENCE AGAINST THE NEW CREATIONISM.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/cgi-bin/apf4/amazon_products_feed.cgi?Operation=ItemLookup&ItemId=0262661659
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Dec 18 12:46:01 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 18 12:46:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
Message-ID: <27c.295d05a.30d71679@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/17/2005 12:59:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
So What!!! Do you want your garbageman to have to have a PhD to take
out you trash? DO you want your bus driver to have a PhD in cartography
and mechanical engineering?
Clyde,
Around 20 or so years ago, up in Washington State One of the biggest
military suppliers laid off thousands of people. These men and woman did have
PhDs in the aeronautics field. Middle aged folks who had spent their lives in
study, classrooms, experimenting in multi-million dollar labs. Guess what
Clyde ??
These people had never lived as the normal person does. Normal people don't
get to see their ideas come to life at NASA space center, or travel at someone
else's expenses to Europe and Asia to meet with the top world scientists.
As you well know, humans hang with others that share their thoughts and
dreams. Their lives were spent with the top 10% of the worlds smartest people.
Clyde, can you imagine the total shock,bewilderment and despair that came
about for them?
First there came the realization that they were over qualified to do
anything else. They could not even teach college classes as there were teachers
already tenured in the schools that had anything to do with their expertise.
Until their parent company got on its feet and rehired these people, in
order to make ends meet, they had to journey into the world of the common man.
Gone was the Yacht Club, the rounds of golf at the Country club. Their homes,
cars, boats, all the goodies you get when you get mega bucks for your brain,
gone-gone-gone. Their kids had to go GASP to public school, No more keeping
a couple horses at the stable for the kids. The month off a year or more
to vacation, on the company's payroll ------Gone. Their help, maids,
gardeners, -------
---Gone. They had to tap retirement funds, sell their stocks and bonds.
So how did they survive ? A lot of them were divorced, some suicide, and
some went to family begging for funds.
The ones that had BIG BALLS, went out and drove taxi cabs or went to, of all
things vocational school, they became plumbers, electricians, tinker,
tailor, bakers men. They were genius, had never done anything
like this, but they were brave.
I believe it was a good 5 years before they could work again in their chosen
field. I met one of these men years ago, he came to see his son at a nuclear
training station for the navy. He recouped his losses, to a point. but he
told me he had the time of his life while laid off. He received an education
he would never had.
This man went back to his job when called but a lot didn't. That garbage
man who picks up your trash could be one of them. Your bus driver, check him
out, could be that homeless man who reads Ulysses is one. You never know
Clyde who anyone is. Just because you run into someone who acts different from
you does not mean they are stupid.
Relax Clyde, Regards Vesta
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Dec 18 16:33:49 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 18 16:35:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE.
In-Reply-To: <27c.295d05a.30d71679@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051218233349.83182.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/2005 12:59:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes:
So What!!! Do you want your garbageman to have to have a PhD to take
out you trash? DO you want your bus driver to have a PhD in cartography
and mechanical engineering?
Clyde,
Around 20 or so years ago, up in Washington State One of the biggest military suppliers laid off thousands of people. These men and woman did have PhDs in the aeronautics field. Middle aged folks who had spent their lives in study, classrooms, experimenting in multi-million dollar labs. Guess what Clyde ??
These people had never lived as the normal person does. Normal people don't get to see their ideas come to life at NASA space center, or travel at someone else's expenses to Europe and Asia to meet with the top world scientists.
YEAH; NORMAL PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART HAVE JUST BECOME
BORING.
As you well know, humans hang with others that share their thoughts and dreams. Their lives were spent with the top 10% of the worlds smartest people.
IN A WAY, I WISH I WASN'T SO MUCH OF THE LONER TYPE OF
PERSON, LIKE TESLA WAS.
Clyde, can you imagine the total shock, bewilderment and despair that came about
for them?
I CAN'T IMAGINE IT; BUT THE SHELL SHOCK, THE CONFUSION, AND
THE DESPAIR THAT I HAVE IN MY LIFE IS VERY OVERWHELMING..!
First there came the realization that they were over qualified to do anything else.
They could not even teach college classes as there were teachers already tenured
in the schools that had anything to do with their expertise.
Until their parent company got on its feet and rehired these people, in order to make ends meet, they had to journey into the world of the common man. Gone was the Yacht Club, the rounds of golf at the Country club. Their homes, cars, boats, all the goodies you get when you get mega bucks for your brain, gone-gone-gone. Their kids had to go GASP to public school, No more keeping a couple horses at the stable for the kids. The month off a year or more to vacation, on the company's payroll ------Gone. Their help, maids, gardeners, -------
MAN; WITH ALL OF THE ENDLESS COMMERCIALISM; IT MAKES ME
TO WHERE I ALMOST NO LONGER WANT TO LIVE IN THIS OVERWHELMING
SOCIETY, IN TULSA OKLAHOMA ANTMORE.
BUT THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM DOESN'T TEACH FINANCIAL, REAL
ESTATE, AND TAX MINIMALISM INDEPENDENCE ANYMORE,
IF IT EVEN EVER DID IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE.
THE PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM TEACHES INTERDEPENDENCE;
AND INTERDEPENDENCE IS NOT THE EXACT SAME AS INDEPENDENCE.
INTERDEPENDENCE TO ME, FOR THE LARGE PART, IS ANTI-
-INDEPENDENCE.
---Gone. They had to tap retirement funds, sell their stocks and bonds.
YEAH; RETIREMENT FUNDS; STOCKS AND BONDS; AND ALL OF
THE OTHER FINANCIAL SO-CALLED INVESTMENTS MAKE ABSOLUTELY
ZERO SENSE TO ME.
THEY DO NOT MAKE PEOPLE RICH.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THOSE FINANCIAL TOPICS MAKE
ANYONE ANY MONEY AT ALL; EVER..!
So how did they survive ? A lot of them were divorced, some suicide, and some went to family begging for funds.
I'M HEADED FOR SUICIDE; IF TULSA OKLAHOMA DOESN'T GET ANY
BETTER; AND THE SAME APPLIES TO THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY AS
WELL..!
I AM PRAYING FERVENTLY NOW, FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US; HERE IN AMERICA.
THE FUTURE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, LOOKS SO ENDLESSLY
DREARY, BECAUSE VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE VERY FEW
SOLUTIONS, TO WORK HARD, TO CLEAN UP AND TRANSFORM
THIS INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN.
I'VE DONE MY PART, WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE
ENTRAINMENT; YET I ALMOST STILL FEEL LIKE MY BEST IS
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
The ones that had BIG BALLS, went out and drove taxi cabs or went to, of all
things vocational school, they became plumbers, electricians, tinker, tailor,
bakers men. They were geniuses, and had never done anything like this, but
they were brave.
I'VE TAKEN SOME VERY BRAVE STEPS, HERE IN TULSA; I HOPE IT
HAS DONE GOOD, INSTEAD OF HARM..!
I WANT TO SEE AND TO LIVE IN A BETTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE;
FOR NOT ONLY IN / FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA; BUT ALSO FOR THE REST
OF THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES..!
I believe it was a good 5 years before they could work again in their chosen field.
I met one of these men years ago, he came to see his son at a nuclear training station for the navy. He recouped his losses, to a point. but he told me he had
the time of his life while laid off. He received an education he would never had.
This man went back to his job when called but a lot didn't. That garbage man who picks up your trash could be one of them. Your bus driver, check him out, could be that homeless man who reads Ulysses is one. You never know Clyde who anyone is.
YOU'RE RIGHT! ; THOUGH PROBLEM FOR ME IS THAT I HAVE BECOME SO
SOCIALLY PHOBIC, THAT I DON'T TALK TO VERY MANY PEOPLE ANYMORE,
BOTH OUT ON THE STREETS AND ELSEWHERE.
Just because you run into someone who acts different from you does not mean they are stupid.
Relax Clyde, Regards Vesta
IT IS SO ABSOLUTELY VERY DIFFICULT TO RELAX, WHEN HARD
WORK DOES NOT PAY; ESPECIALLY HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA:
ALWAYS WORKING HARDER AND GOING NOWHERE, TO VERY
LITTLE, IN ANY FORWARD PROGRESS.
WHICH IS ALSO APPLICABLE TO WORKING SMARTER, HERE IN
TULSA AS WELL; AS FAR AS TULSA TIME IS CONCERNED..!
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE INTERFERED IN MY LIFE, AND MY
BRAIN IS BOTH IN AND BEYOND OVERLOAD MODE -
- SIMULTANEOUSLY,
AND I HAVE NO NATURAL WAY TO SLOW IT DOWN AT WILL,
SINCE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS NOT
SAFE FOR ME TO TRY AS OF YET, SINCE I CANNOT AFFORD
AN ELECTROMECHANICAL ON/OFF CONTROL TIMER, TO KEEP
THE EXPERIMENTAL OPERATIONS AS SAFE AS CAN BE FOR
MYSELF.
LATER; CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 18 16:52:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN AND MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
In-Reply-To: <20051217034811.19817.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
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I NEED BOTH AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN, AND AN
OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE FOR THE HOLIDAYS..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Dec 18 16:53:28 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Dec 18 16:55:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY OVERALL HEALTH.
Message-ID: <20051218235328.81590.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
I HAVE A FEELING THAT MY OVERALL HEALTH IS
PERMANENTLY RUINED.
I MAY NEVER GET MY YOUTHFUL HEALTH BACK
AGAIN, LIKE I SO DESPERATELY NEED.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Dec 19 02:13:01 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Dec 19 02:13:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY OVERALL HEALTH.
In-Reply-To: <20051218235328.81590.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 18, 2005 03:53:28 PM
Message-ID: <20051219091301.73567.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I HAVE A FEELING THAT MY OVERALL HEALTH IS
> PERMANENTLY RUINED.
> I MAY NEVER GET MY YOUTHFUL HEALTH BACK
> AGAIN, LIKE I SO DESPERATELY NEED.
Life is a roaring tobogan ride down the side of a mountain.
Look at what is ahead. You don't have time to look at what is
behind you.
Yes, health could be better. Try to make it better. But don't
lament what is past; look at how you can make the future better.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 20 23:22:19 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 20 23:22:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD
FUTURE.....
Message-ID: <20051221062219.42911.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD FUTURE
FOR THIS SUPER DIVIDED COUNTRY:
ALEX GRAY'S PRAYING ARTWORK:
http://www.chronogram.com/issue/1999/11/
AN EXACTLY PERFECT DEPICTION OF HOW ANGRY
I AM, WHEN I USUALLY PRAY.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 20 23:40:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 20 23:40:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPELLED: WHOLLY..!
Message-ID: <20051221064025.112.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
HOLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPELLED: WHOLLY..!
HOLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPELLED: WHOLLY;
AND NOT SPELLED AS: HOLY.
THE TRUE LINGUISTIC SPELLING OF THE WORD
HOLY, IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPELLED: WHOLLY.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 00:18:33 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 00:18:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD
In-Reply-To: <20051221062219.42911.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 20, 2005 10:22:19 PM
Message-ID: <20051221071833.48142.qmail@mall-net.com>
> ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD FUTURE
> FOR THIS SUPER DIVIDED COUNTRY:
>
> ALEX GRAY'S PRAYING ARTWORK:
>
> http://www.chronogram.com/issue/1999/11/
>
> AN EXACTLY PERFECT DEPICTION OF HOW ANGRY
> I AM, WHEN I USUALLY PRAY.
Very interesting. The picture does not look angry to me. The face is
calm. It seems more the depiction of spiritual warmth and self
awareness. Why do you think it depicts anger?
Sepqarate your sense of physical anger from your inner sense of
thought, motivation, etc.
Your body is producing a lot of adrenaline. That is why you feel
angry. Your mind looks for justifications for that feeling. (And often
does so badly, with hokey reasons.)
Once you learn to separate the physical from the spiritual, you
will not think of yourself as angry when only your body is aroused.
With that, you can develop some inner sense of serenity while you
seek means of reducing your adrenaline production.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 00:56:40 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 00:56:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Whale Beachings
Message-ID: <20051221075640.78972.qmail@mall-net.com>
Whales beached in New Zealand.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2005-12-21T061231Z_01_KWA110450_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENVIRONMENT-NEWZEALAND.xml
Why do they do this en-mass? Could it be their messias say that if
they die on the beach, in their next incarnation they will become human,
a step on their path to heaven?
Why should we be the only ones with false prophets? Spread some of
this madness around.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 06:04:20 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 06:04:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD
In-Reply-To: <20051221071833.48142.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051221130420.72333.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD FUTURE
> FOR THIS SUPER DIVIDED COUNTRY:
>
> ALEX GRAY'S PRAYING ARTWORK:
>
> http://www.chronogram.com/issue/1999/11/
>
> AN EXACTLY PERFECT DEPICTION OF HOW ANGRY
> I AM, WHEN I USUALLY PRAY.
Very interesting. The picture does not look angry to me. The face is
calm.
ALL OF THE RED, TO ME, REPRESENTS FIRE ANGRY / ANGRY
FIRE HOT..!
THE FACE IS CALM, BUT THE REPRESESSED EMOTION IS
RED HOT, AND IN MY CASE; NUCLEAR WHITE HOT ANGER,
FROM WITHIN; BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL JUST NOT LEAVE
ME ALONE..!
EVEN THOUGH I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT
NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY.
ALL OF MY INTERESTS ARE IN TESLA'S RADIO FREQEUNCIES /
TECHNOLOGIES, AND NOT IN EINSTEIN'S NUCLEAR ONE'S..!
SEEMS AS THOUGH I'VE BECOME A RELUCTANT MESSENGER,
WHEN ALL THAT I HAVE WANTED TO DO IS TO ACHIEVE MY
PEACEFUL PERFECT DESTINY IN LIFE: LITTLE METAL POWERHOUSE..!
BUT TULSA IS JUST SO OVERZONED; OVERTAXXXED; OVERDRUGGED;
AND OVERDOSED: ALL: WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
It seems more the depiction of spiritual warmth and self awareness.
Why do you think it depicts anger?
TO ME IT IS BOTH RED HOT JUST UNDER THE SKIN, AND RED
HOT INTERNALLY: NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE INTERNALLY: LIKE THE
HULK; (IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE THEATRICAL RELEASE OF THAT
MOVIE?) AS FAR AS ONLY MY INTERNAL ANGER IS CONCERNED -
BECAUSE I WANT PEACE-SERENITY TO PREVAIL SO BADLY IN
MY LIFE, AND I AM JUST SO PERFECTIONISTIC, AND I AM JUST
NOT GETTING THE PEACE AND SERENITY THAT I SO DESPERATELY
NEED IN MY LIFE..!
I AM BEING DENIED SERENITY..!
Separate your sense of physical anger from your inner sense of
thought, motivation, etc.
THAT IS A LITTLE EASIER SAID THAN DONE AT TIMES.
Your body is producing a lot of adrenaline.
YES; WAY WAY OVER FAR TOO MUCH..!
That is why you feel angry.
YES..!
Your mind looks for justifications for that feeling. (And often does so
badly, with hokey reasons.)
IT IS BOTH SAD AND MAD, THAT I HAVE HAD TO PLAY THE
DEVILS ADVOCATE, DUE TO SO..! SO..! SO..! MUCH CONSTANT
INTERFERENCE IN MY LIFE, TO GET TO A GREATER GOOD
FOR EVERYONE, IN MY STUDY OF ELECTROMAGNETIC
BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT; NELUMBO NUCIFERA LOTUS;
CHIROPRACTICE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE
TECHNOLOGY; AND IN MY PROFESSIONAL G.P.S.
SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT.
I DON'T WANT ANY OF MY STUDY TO GET INTO THE HANDS OF
(THE) WRONG PEOPLE..!
THE GOVERNMENT IS SPYING ON ME NOW; AND THEY HAVE
BEEN FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW;
IT IS OK THOUGH; I AM AWARE OF IT; BUT THE PREVAILANCE
OF PEACE IS MY ABSOLUTE WILL..!
I JUST WANT TO DO MY PART, FOR THE POSITIVE FURTHERANCE-
-PROGRESSION OF BOTH THE MORAL, AND THE MORALE REVIVAL
OF AMERICA, AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN SO DRASTICALLY TORN
DOWN..!
Once you learn to separate the physical from the spiritual, you
will not think of yourself as angry when only your body is aroused.
WELL; AROUSED IS A WORD THAT I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
USE.
JUST SO MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED FRUSTRATED AS
ALL HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF..!
I WANT THE SCIENCES THAT I HAVE STUDIED, TO BE OF BENEFIT
TO EVERYONE IN AMERICA: WITH EQUALITY: ABSOLUTLEY
ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
With that, you can develop some inner sense of serenity while you
seek means of reducing your adrenaline production.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT I CAN GO TO, TO FIND SERENITY, IS A
PLACE CALLED REDBUD VALLEY, IN EASTERN TULSA..!
IT IS A PLACE WHERE I AM STILL ABLE TO BREATHE NATURALLY,
ON MY OWN.
THOUGH THE LAST TIME THAT I WENT OUT THERE; THE ENTIRE
MILITARY WAS UP IN A F'ING UPHEAVAL; AND THE POLICE
HELICOPTER FLEW DIRECTLY OVER ME AS I WAS LEAVING;
THEY THINK THAT I AM UP TO NO GOOD; BUT I HAVE MEANING
TO WHAT I AM DOING; AND IT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE;
IT'S JUST THAT I AM NOT A GOOD SOCIAL COMMUNICATOR
ANYMORE; IF I EVEN EVER WAS IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE..!
THE DIVORCE OF BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER, BURIED
MY INNOCENCE; AND LITTLE METAL POWERHOUSE DIED WITH
THEIR DIVORCE..!
THIS ATMOSPHERE, WHERE I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO RESIDE,
IS A NEVERENDING NEGATIVE ENERGY PRISON.
MY ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS ALL FUCKED UP NOW;
DUE TO ALL OF THE SHIT THAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH IN MY LIFE;
FROM ALL OF THE MUSIC THAT I HAVE LISTENED TO IN MY LIFE;
AND FROM ALL OF THE OVERDOSE OF ALL OF THE PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS THAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN IN MY LIFE..!
I AM ABSOLUTELY SHELL SHOCKED BY REALITY; AND WISH
THAT I COULD JUST BE GIVEN AN OVERDOSE OF SLEEPING GAS
FOR ALL OF MY HARD WORK.
I AM ONLY A RELUCTANT MESSENGER; AND THAT IS IT.
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WILL AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO BUILD NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY..!
ALL I KNOW, IS THE LOWER PORTION OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC
SPECTRUM; FROM LIGHT FREQUENCIES, ON DOWN..!
I KNOW OF NU-CLEE-ER ENERGY FREQUENCIES; WITH LIGHT
BEING THE DIVISION POINT/S BETWEEN UPPER AND LOWER, BUT I
DO NOT KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY / TECHNOLOGIES OF NUCLEAR
ENERGY..!
I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY WILL WHATSOEVER, AT BUILDING
NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY; ONLY RADIO FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGIES
WITHIN THE LOWER PORTION OF THE E.M. SPECTRUM..!
BUT I HAVE NOW REALIZED THE GOVERNMENT PARANOIA
INVOLVED; WHICH IS RELATIONAL TO TESLA; BUT IN DISCLOSING
THAT KNOWLEDGE OVER THE INTERNET; I WILL REFRAIN FROM
DOING SO; BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS IN THE HANDS OF THE
WRONG PEOPLE..!
I HOPE THAT THIS E-MAIL CLEARS UP ALL OF THE CONFUSION
PEOPLE...!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 06:15:43 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 06:15:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Whale Beachings
In-Reply-To: <20051221075640.78972.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051221131543.1180.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Whales beached in New Zealand.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2005-12-21T061231Z_01_KWA110450_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENVIRONMENT-NEWZEALAND.xml
Why do they do this en-mass? Could it be their messias say that if
they die on the beach, in their next incarnation they will become human,
a step on their path to heaven?
HORSESHIT..!
THEY ARE DYING EN-MASS BECAUSE OF E.L.F. AND U.L.F. NAVY
UNDERWATER AUDIO-RADIO COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGIES..!
Why should we be the only ones with false prophets?
HORSESHIT..!
Spread some of this madness around.
I'M ONLY GOING TO LEAVE THIS MADNESS ON THE MAD-SCI
LIST ONLY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 06:19:43 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 06:19:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: HELP ME OUT OF HERE.
In-Reply-To: <20051221065340.7501.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051221131943.82374.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
TO WHOM IT CONCERNS:
I NEED AN ANGEL OF ABSOLUTE PERFECT
WHITE GHOST LIGHT, TO HELP ME OUT OF
THIS NEVERENDING HELLHOLE, OF TULSA
OKLAHOMA.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 06:43:02 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 06:43:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 2525..!
Message-ID: <20051221134302.40760.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
I BELONG IN THE YEAR 2525,
AND BEYOND;
NOT IN THIS YEAR OF 2005..!
I AM ABSOLUTELY SICK OF
THIS DECADE AND CENTURY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 07:01:44 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 07:01:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BAD KARMA; THE KUNDALINI ENERGY; AND SAMADHI.
Message-ID: <20051221140144.44851.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
THIS ISN'T A TOPIC NECESSARILY RELATED
TO SCIENCE; BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW
HOW TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THE
KRAP OF THE KUNDALINI..?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 07:17:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 07:17:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY OVERALL HEALTH.
In-Reply-To: <20051219091301.73567.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051221141725.39073.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I HAVE A FEELING THAT MY OVERALL HEALTH IS
> PERMANENTLY RUINED.
> I MAY NEVER GET MY YOUTHFUL HEALTH BACK
> AGAIN, LIKE I SO DESPERATELY NEED.
Life is a roaring tobogan ride down the side of a mountain.
YEAH WELL; I WANT TO BE ENSURED THAT I WILL
SUCCEED IN REACHING SUCCESS..!
Look at what is ahead. You don't have time to look at what is
behind you.
LIKE PEACE OF MIND, BY BOSTON: LOOK AHEAD.
AND IN THEIR OTHER SONG: DON'T LOOK BACK.
THOUGH IN RELATION TO BOSTON; COLORFUL
COLORADO IS MY TYPE OF PLACE TO LIVE;
NOT IN BOSTON.
PHILLYDELPHIA (IF I GOT THE SPELLING CORRECT)
WAS VERY COOL PLACE TO VISIT, ON VACATION
WITH MY PARENTS, BACK IN THE 90'S; THOUGH
I STILL LIKE THE MOUNTAINS THE BEST OF ALL_
THOUGH ONLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS,
AND NOT IN THE WINTER MONTHS.
Yes, health could be better. Try to make it better.
I NEED A PORTABLE PERSONAL RESPIRATOR 'SYSTEM' /
MASK, WITH MAXIMUM AIR FILTRATION, TO START CARRYING
AROUND WITH ME, AND USING, EVERYWHERE I GO, I GUESS.
TOO BAD FOR MYSELF THOUGH, THAT MONEY (OR YES; AS I
PREFER TO CALL IT: ANTIMONEY) PREVENTS ME FROM GETTING
MY OWN HALF MASK, FROM HOME DEPOT.
But don't lament what is past; look at how you can make the future better.
I'D LIKE TO NUKE BOMB THE PAST..!
BUT I DO NOT HAVE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY KNOWLEDGE;
AND NUKING THE PAST IS UNREALISTIC, BECAUSE IT IS JUST
NOT POSSIBLE TO DO; EXCEPT TO DO SO: METAPHYSICALLY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 07:47:26 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 07:47:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 2525 SONG LYRICS WEBLINK;
ALONG WITH M.I.D.I. MUSIC OF THE SONG.
Message-ID: <20051221144726.9524.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
2525 SONG LYRICS WEBLINK; ALONG
WITH M.I.D.I. MUSIC OF THE SONG:
http://www.jacquedee63.com/intheyear2525.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 07:59:37 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Dec 21 07:59:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM NEARLY BRAINDEAD RIGHT NOW.
Message-ID: <20051221145937.73465.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM NEARLY BRAINDEAD RIGHT NOW.
CLYDE
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 09:01:56 2005
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Dec 21 09:02:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] digest vol 14, issue 19
Message-ID: <20051221160156.98780.qmail@web36106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
"I AM BEING DENIED SERENITY..!"
Baed on your work with frequencies etc, isn't there a possibilty that it is subtly affecting your peace of mind? You said you research brainwave entrainment (synchronization) - can some of the frequencies and wavelengths be causing it? Or at least making it worse? Just an idea.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 09:55:47 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 09:55:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY OVERALL HEALTH.
In-Reply-To: <20051221141725.39073.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 21, 2005 06:17:25 AM
Message-ID: <20051221165547.88469.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I HAVE A FEELING THAT MY OVERALL HEALTH IS
> > PERMANENTLY RUINED.
> > I MAY NEVER GET MY YOUTHFUL HEALTH BACK
> > AGAIN, LIKE I SO DESPERATELY NEED.
>
> Life is a roaring tobogan ride down the side of a mountain.
>
> YEAH WELL; I WANT TO BE ENSURED THAT I WILL
> SUCCEED IN REACHING SUCCESS..!
But what is success? Could it be that you are close to achievable
success than you think?
> Look at what is ahead. You don't have time to look at what is
> behind you.
>
> LIKE PEACE OF MIND, BY BOSTON: LOOK AHEAD.
> AND IN THEIR OTHER SONG: DON'T LOOK BACK.
> THOUGH IN RELATION TO BOSTON; COLORFUL
You keep referencing songs and rock artists. Are you using them ot
think for you? Not a good idea. Most rock music and especially the
newer rap music has themes which are anti-success, anti-effective,
anti-cultural. Not good messages!
> COLORADO IS MY TYPE OF PLACE TO LIVE;
> NOT IN BOSTON.
There are pluses and minuses to both sides. I am in the mountains,
living in a place which takes too much time to live in, leaving not
enough time to work in.
> I NEED A PORTABLE PERSONAL RESPIRATOR 'SYSTEM' /
> MASK, WITH MAXIMUM AIR FILTRATION, TO START CARRYING
> AROUND WITH ME, AND USING, EVERYWHERE I GO, I GUESS.
> TOO BAD FOR MYSELF THOUGH, THAT MONEY (OR YES; AS I
> PREFER TO CALL IT: ANTIMONEY) PREVENTS ME FROM GETTING
> MY OWN HALF MASK, FROM HOME DEPOT.
$50. Home depot 3m 7502 half mask. Get a pack of HEPA filters
(purple pancakes) as well. You need to wash it every night. the HEPAs
will help with dust and pollen problems. the activated charcoal is
expensive, but may help with some auto exhaust problems, not all. Does
not do much with nitrous oxides, etc.
> But don't lament what is past; look at how you can make the future better.
>
> I'D LIKE TO NUKE BOMB THE PAST..!
You don't need to.
> NOT POSSIBLE TO DO; EXCEPT TO DO SO: METAPHYSICALLY..!
Metaphysically... Ditch the songs, (listen to some good slow
classical stuff? Satie, Debussy, Vivaldi...) Think for yourself, and
look at how you can change what you are doing so as to make the future
better. Action, not the harder personal change, is a good beginning.
Plan a few days in advance. Ask yourself in the morning, what you can
do to make the day and the next day better. It's a decent start.
Life goes on. As I said before, the stories I heard at Alcoholics
Anonymous and the tapes I was involved building a database for, are
incredible. Guys who destroyed their future and reputation by drinking,
once they quit drinking were able to rebuild themselves and their
future.
If they can do that from the wreckage they caused, you have an even
better chance of building a decent future. So relax, stop listening to
pessimistic rock and rapp music idiots, and look to the future.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 09:58:24 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 09:58:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM NEARLY BRAINDEAD RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051221145937.73465.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 21, 2005 06:59:37 AM
Message-ID: <20051221165824.90519.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I AM NEARLY BRAINDEAD RIGHT NOW.
So go take a nap. that's what I always do.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 10:00:10 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 10:00:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BAD KARMA; THE KUNDALINI ENERGY; AND SAMADHI.
In-Reply-To: <20051221140144.44851.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 21, 2005 06:01:44 AM
Message-ID: <20051221170010.91964.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THIS ISN'T A TOPIC NECESSARILY RELATED
> TO SCIENCE; BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW
> HOW TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THE
> KRAP OF THE KUNDALINI..?
In your tate, I'd stay away from Kundalini Yoga. if not taught by
a real master, it can cause one problems.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 10:05:44 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 10:05:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: HELP ME OUT OF HERE.
In-Reply-To: <20051221131943.82374.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 21, 2005 05:19:43 AM
Message-ID: <20051221170544.97954.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I NEED AN ANGEL OF ABSOLUTE PERFECT
> WHITE GHOST LIGHT, TO HELP ME OUT OF
> THIS NEVERENDING HELLHOLE, OF TULSA
> OKLAHOMA.
Don't look for perfection, Clyde. You'd be able to walk to
Colorado faster!
If you smile at people, they smile back. Think about that.
It's an important philosophical point built-in to our firmware.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 10:14:46 2005
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Dec 21 10:14:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Kundalini problems
Message-ID: <20051221171446.47191.qmail@web36111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
"
THIS ISN'T A TOPIC NECESSARILY RELATED
TO SCIENCE; BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW
HOW TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THE
KRAP OF THE KUNDALINI..?"
Check into the writings of Mantak Chia and Taoist yoga - what you are experiencing is the concentration at the top of the skull which creates pressure and can also cause hallucinations, dellusions and sleeplessness.
http://www.universal-tao.com/
Taoist yoga focusses on the circulation throughout the body instead of the top of the head.
http://www.realization.org/page/doc0/doc0056.htm
http://www.appliedmeditation.org/Heart_Rhythm_Practice/kundalini_problems.shtml
http://easternhealingarts.com/Articles/fixkundali.html
I hope some of this helps
Jeff
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 10:22:50 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 10:22:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANGRILY AND FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A GOOD
In-Reply-To: <20051221130420.72333.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 21, 2005 05:04:20 AM
Message-ID: <20051221172250.17217.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Separate your sense of physical anger from your inner sense of
> thought, motivation, etc.
>
> THAT IS A LITTLE EASIER SAID THAN DONE AT TIMES.
(Laughing) Yes it is! But you have to TRY!!! That is the
difference between an angry dangerous person, and a decent person.
> Your body is producing a lot of adrenaline.
>
> YES; WAY WAY OVER FAR TOO MUCH..!
>
> That is why you feel angry.
>
> YES..!
>
> Your mind looks for justifications for that feeling. (And often does so
> badly, with hokey reasons.)
>
> IT IS BOTH SAD AND MAD, THAT I HAVE HAD TO PLAY THE
> DEVILS ADVOCATE, DUE TO SO..! SO..! SO..! MUCH CONSTANT
> INTERFERENCE IN MY LIFE, TO GET TO A GREATER GOOD
> FOR EVERYONE, IN MY STUDY OF ELECTROMAGNETIC
> BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT; NELUMBO NUCIFERA LOTUS;
> CHIROPRACTICE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE
> TECHNOLOGY; AND IN MY PROFESSIONAL G.P.S.
> SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT.
So what! Laugh at it. Try to laugh, Clyde, try to laugh. Laugher
provides good cardiopulminary excercise and a release of tension. Even
if you have to fake a little of it, you will benefit from it. (ANd
probably laugh without stopping for some time as the tension drains
out.)
> I DON'T WANT ANY OF MY STUDY TO GET INTO THE HANDS OF
> (THE) WRONG PEOPLE..!
Who cares! It's out here already, and if they play with it, it
might change them for the better.
> THE GOVERNMENT IS SPYING ON ME NOW; AND THEY HAVE
> BEEN FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW;
WHo cares!
> IT IS OK THOUGH; I AM AWARE OF IT; BUT THE PREVAILANCE
> OF PEACE IS MY ABSOLUTE WILL..!
> I JUST WANT TO DO MY PART, FOR THE POSITIVE FURTHERANCE-
> -PROGRESSION OF BOTH THE MORAL, AND THE MORALE REVIVAL
> OF AMERICA, AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN SO DRASTICALLY TORN
> DOWN..!
You are not a preacher. (I am, and have a card to prove it; but
that's besides the point.) All you can do is improve your own self. And
you know, that's a pretty good start.
> Once you learn to separate the physical from the spiritual, you
> will not think of yourself as angry when only your body is aroused.
>
> WELL; AROUSED IS A WORD THAT I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
> USE.
> JUST SO MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED FRUSTRATED AS
> ALL HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF..!
> I WANT THE SCIENCES THAT I HAVE STUDIED, TO BE OF BENEFIT
> TO EVERYONE IN AMERICA: WITH EQUALITY: ABSOLUTLEY
> ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
What's that saying, first get the mote out of your own eye before
you try to get the mote out of someone else's eye.
> With that, you can develop some inner sense of serenity while you
> seek means of reducing your adrenaline production.
>
> THE ONLY PLACE THAT I CAN GO TO, TO FIND SERENITY, IS A
> PLACE CALLED REDBUD VALLEY, IN EASTERN TULSA..!
> IT IS A PLACE WHERE I AM STILL ABLE TO BREATHE NATURALLY,
> ON MY OWN.
The only place you can find serenity, is in your own head. For if
you can't find it there, you never will.
That's where you need to start. (Though you may have some allergy
problems that are driving adrenaline. Do look at the physiological; but
start with the spiritual.)
One of the excercises I was taught was to look at a candle flame in
a dim room for ten minutes. Can you do that?
> THOUGH THE LAST TIME THAT I WENT OUT THERE; THE ENTIRE
> MILITARY WAS UP IN A F'ING UPHEAVAL; AND THE POLICE
> HELICOPTER FLEW DIRECTLY OVER ME AS I WAS LEAVING;
> THEY THINK THAT I AM UP TO NO GOOD; BUT I HAVE MEANING
Highly unlikely they had any specific interest in you, Clyde. It
may have been an excercise you stumbled upon. Happened to my father and
myelf once at a state park. We got rounded up by the national guard,
asked a bunch of questions, etc. then politely escorted from the area.
No big deal.
> I HOPE THAT THIS E-MAIL CLEARS UP ALL OF THE CONFUSION
> PEOPLE...!
They are not interested in you, Clyde. Even if they were looking
directly at you, they would not be interested in you as a person, just
you as a possible something that you are not. So if you relax, they will
see you are not what they are interested in.
Let go, Clyde, let go.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Dec 21 11:39:42 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 11:39:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Davie Jones Locker
Message-ID: <15b.5e38d6b4.30dafb6e@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/21/2005 2:57:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
Why do they do this en-mass? Could it be their Messiah say that if
they die on the beach, in their next incarnation they will become human,
a step on their path to heaven?
Why should we be the only ones with false prophets? Spread some of
this madness around.
I would like to know if these beaching's have been reported before the year
1890. If so, that would let out or at least move Sonar down the list as
possible reasons for these mammals to try to swim though or onto land.
A thought, you know what happens to your skin when you get a dose of poison
ivy. Could it be that these animals know when Portuguese Man Of War are in the
area and they are trying to escape them?
I have seen humans run from bees and jump into the water to escape, could
these mammals be running from the water onto land to escape (SOMETHING)?
Pollen is a big problem for land animals and humans. There could be
something in the air over the water that makes breathing difficult for these beasts,
or could the very movement or lack of surface movement cause them to need
air?
Do we have any reports of beaching's in far northern waters? Would warm
temperatures have any baring ?
We now know there are millions of little volcano's in our ocean, could one,
as it mumbles and grumbles, be sending out tiny little sound waves on a
frequency that they detect?
The Prophet Davie Jones, servant of ( Poseidon God of the Sea.) Wouldn't
put anything past that Dude. Word going around the Poop Deck is old Davie is
a sly one. It has been 60 years or so since Davie was in his glory with all
the souls sent to his locker from WW2.
Question is, do all mammals have souls? Well, my dogs know right from
wrong, when taught. Humans know right from wrong when taught from the society
and age they live in.
These aquatic mammals live in family groups and are taught from birth right
from wrong, what to eat, how deep to dive, what to beware of. HMMMMMM,
perhaps Davie with a lack of human souls has to take what he can.
Now, how do we know Davie is a false prophet ? There is reincarnation, a
belief held by a billion or so people. How is one to know that species
reincarnate within their own species ?
Millions of Hindi believe they can come back as a rat. If for argument sake,
mammals have souls, could not a good and deserving mammal come back as a
human ?
I know humans that could have been dogs in a former life. Loyal, the kind of
person who almost wags their tail when they see you. Then people who were
sloths, at the age of 40 they still live with their parents and have never held
a job. Weasels, prisons are over flowing with them. Badgers, these folk
,are so quick to take offence at any little thing, we call them crazy people.
Wolves, people who are dedicated to their family. You see these guys who want
to be totally independent, they hunt for food, have huge gardens and love to
hang out with like souls.
So why can't the ocean dwelling mammals come back also. The people who have
a fascination with the ocean. Men and woman who rejoice in running with the
sea?
We will never live so long as to have even one of these questions answered,
_!#@$^%_ (mailto:!#@$^) *&
Regards, Vesta
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 12:10:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Davie Jones Locker
In-Reply-To: <15b.5e38d6b4.30dafb6e@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Dec 21,
2005 01:39:42 PM
Message-ID: <20051221191032.20430.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I would like to know if these beaching's have been reported before the year
> 1890. If so, that would let out or at least move Sonar down the list as
> possible reasons for these mammals to try to swim though or onto land.
1890, huh? Geez we must have had rather good secrecy in those days
for us not to learn about it till WW-II or there abouts. (Probably
meant 9080's.)
> A thought, you know what happens to your skin when you get a dose of poison
> ivy. Could it be that these animals know when Portuguese Man Of War are in the
> area and they are trying to escape them?
That's an interesting idea! Many of these are persistent in
beaching; but they are heard animals, and want to stay with their pod.
> Pollen is a big problem for land animals and humans. There could be
> something in the air over the water that makes breathing difficult for these beasts,
> or could the very movement or lack of surface movement cause them to need
> air?
I have often thought that sea water is a major source of pollution
due to some of the plankton and the like living in it. There are times
when my joints ache and I feel rather bad when the air is from the sea,
even if, especially if I am next to the water. Other times the air is
really clean and everything great. Takes several days to go from one to
the other. I suspect it depends on what's in the water.
> We now know there are millions of little volcano's in our ocean, could one,
> as it mumbles and grumbles, be sending out tiny little sound waves on a
> frequency that they detect?
There are also persistent noises, "ringing of the earth" that have
been traced to the action of waves on the shores of the world. Earth
creaks. You would too if you were 4.5 billion years old.
> The Prophet Davie Jones, servant of ( Poseidon God of the Sea.) Wouldn't
> put anything past that Dude. Word going around the Poop Deck is old Davie is
> a sly one. It has been 60 years or so since Davie was in his glory with all
> the souls sent to his locker from WW2.
(Chuckle)
> Question is, do all mammals have souls? Well, my dogs know right from
> wrong, when taught. Humans know right from wrong when taught from the society
> and age they live in.
I think so. I think there is a persistent back-channel in the EM
spectrum that we all radiate, enough for a soul to echo in, perhaps
long enough to climb in or influence a newly formed mind of similar
attributes. The Buddhists call this reincarnation. If this is true,
then I think it would apply to all organic mind forms of some
complexity.
> These aquatic mammals live in family groups and are taught from birth right
> from wrong, what to eat, how deep to dive, what to beware of. HMMMMMM,
> perhaps Davie with a lack of human souls has to take what he can.
>
> Now, how do we know Davie is a false prophet ? There is reincarnation, a
> belief held by a billion or so people. How is one to know that species
> reincarnate within their own species ?
One would think that, if resonance is the key, the resonance would
be stronger for the same species. But... who knows what a more
adventurous soul might be able to pull off.
> Millions of Hindi believe they can come back as a rat. If for argument sake,
> mammals have souls, could not a good and deserving mammal come back as a
> human ?
See above.
> I know humans that could have been dogs in a former life. Loyal, the kind of
> person who almost wags their tail when they see you. Then people who were
> sloths, at the age of 40 they still live with their parents and have never held
> a job. Weasels, prisons are over flowing with them. Badgers, these folk
> ,are so quick to take offence at any little thing, we call them crazy people.
> Wolves, people who are dedicated to their family. You see these guys who want
> to be totally independent, they hunt for food, have huge gardens and love to
> hang out with like souls.
Attributes do not, necessarily, reincarnation make. But who knows
about the individual case. Dogs reincarnating as humans, I could
believe. Some dogs want to be humans, try to be like humans.
> So why can't the ocean dwelling mammals come back also. The people who have
> a fascination with the ocean. Men and woman who rejoice in running with the
> sea?
>
> We will never live so long as to have even one of these questions answered,
Agreed.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 12:34:48 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 12:34:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] digest vol 14, issue 19
In-Reply-To: <20051221160156.98780.qmail@web36106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Dec 21, 2005 08:01:56 AM
Message-ID: <20051221193448.39620.qmail@mall-net.com>
> "I AM BEING DENIED SERENITY..!"
>
> Baed on your work with frequencies etc, isn't there a possibilty
> that it is subtly affecting your peace of mind? You said you research
> brainwave entrainment (synchronization) - can some of the frequencies
> and wavelengths be causing it? Or at least making it worse? Just an
> idea.
My experience with 7.83hz magnetic entrainment is quite the
opposite; one becomes more relaxed, more inside one's self from what I
heard, read, and experienced. Which is why I had mentioned it to Clyde
some months ago.
Of course, it may depend upon the individual.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Dec 21 23:06:11 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Dec 21 23:06:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Evo-Devo
Message-ID: <20051222060611.97270.qmail@mall-net.com>
How a few basic genes control the development of most animals.
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/books/articles/051024crbo_books1
You wondered why the dog is similar to the elephant? Why they both
have just about the same bones, organs, etc. with very little real
difference?
The new revolution in evolution suggests that very few changes are
required to make major changes in the species.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 11:53:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 23 11:54:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JOHN.
Message-ID: <20051223185350.21401.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
I HAVE FORWARDED MY COMPLETED TYPING OF
THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT
PROJECT, W/ PHOTO'S, TO YOUR OFFICIAL E-MAIL
ADDRESS.
SO CHECK YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL AND GET BACK
TO ME, TO SEE IF EVERYTHING IS RECIVED A-OK..!
OK?
LATER, CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 23 12:10:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JOHN.
In-Reply-To: <20051223185350.21401.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 23, 2005 10:53:50 AM
Message-ID: <20051223190957.56568.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I HAVE FORWARDED MY COMPLETED TYPING OF
> THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT
> PROJECT, W/ PHOTO'S, TO YOUR OFFICIAL E-MAIL
> ADDRESS.
> SO CHECK YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL AND GET BACK
> TO ME, TO SEE IF EVERYTHING IS RECIVED A-OK..!
> OK?
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the web many of us have attachments turned off. (Others should!)
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or FTP the material to some picture hosting service.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 12:13:51 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 23 12:13:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] digest vol 14, issue 19
In-Reply-To: <20051221160156.98780.qmail@web36106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051223191351.92941.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
j s wrote:
"I AM BEING DENIED SERENITY..!"
Based on your work with frequencies etc, isn't there a
possibility that it is subtly affecting your peace of mind?
YES; FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN..!
You said you research brainwave entrainment
(synchronization) - can some of the frequencies and
wavelengths be causing it?
WELL; THE 60 CYCLES PER SECOND (C.P.S.)
ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID HAS
MOST ALL OF US: HYPNOTIZED..!
Or at least making it worse?
WELL; YES AND NO.
THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE
ENTRAINMENT SCIENCE PROJECT IS NOW BECOMING
WIDESPREAD PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE, THROUGH
LOCAL MEDIA / GOVERNEMENT SPYING, AS WELL AS
THROUGH ALL OF THOSE COMPUTER HACKERS WHO
ARE AROUND ME..!
IT HAS BECOME, SHOULD I SAY: A QUIET RIOT..!
MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS
AT LEAST HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, NOW KNOW
ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY..!
Just an idea.
OK.
HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 23 12:17:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JOHN.
In-Reply-To: <20051223190957.56568.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051223191738.8221.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I HAVE FORWARDED MY COMPLETED TYPING OF
> THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT
> PROJECT, W/ PHOTO'S, TO YOUR OFFICIAL E-MAIL
> ADDRESS.
> SO CHECK YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL AND GET BACK
> TO ME, TO SEE IF EVERYTHING IS RECIVED A-OK..!
> OK?
For reasons of security from viruses, trojans, and other nasties on
the web many of us have attachments turned off. (Others should!)
OK.
Also, the sending of large attachments on mailing lists is generally
considered inappropriate by list managers everywhere.
YEAH WELL, I CANNOT POST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE TO
THE MAD-SCI FORUM, DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE MESSAGE.
The usual way of handling things like this is to create a web site
or FTP the material to some picture hosting service.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO DO SO.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 12:38:54 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Dec 23 12:39:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JOHN.
In-Reply-To: <20051223190957.56568.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051223193854.55406.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I HAVE FORWARDED MY COMPLETED TYPING OF
> THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT
> PROJECT, W/ PHOTO'S, TO YOUR OFFICIAL E-MAIL
> ADDRESS.
> SO CHECK YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL AND GET BACK
> TO ME, TO SEE IF EVERYTHING IS RECIVED A-OK..!
> OK?
For reasons of security from viruses, trojans, and other nasties on
the web many of us have attachments turned off. (Others should!)
OK.
Also, the sending of large attachments on mailing lists is generally
considered inappropriate by list managers everywhere.
YEAH WELL, I CANNOT POST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE TO
THE MAD-SCI FORUM, DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE MESSAGE.
The usual way of handling things like this is to create a web site
or FTP the material to some picture hosting service.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO DO SO.
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 23 13:42:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] digest vol 14, issue 19
In-Reply-To: <20051223191351.92941.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 23, 2005 11:13:51 AM
Message-ID: <20051223204235.24726.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WELL; THE 60 CYCLES PER SECOND (C.P.S.)
> ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID HAS
> MOST ALL OF US: HYPNOTIZED..!
Why do you think so?
> WELL; YES AND NO.
> THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE
> ENTRAINMENT SCIENCE PROJECT IS NOW BECOMING
> WIDESPREAD PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE, THROUGH
> LOCAL MEDIA / GOVERNEMENT SPYING, AS WELL AS
> THROUGH ALL OF THOSE COMPUTER HACKERS WHO
> ARE AROUND ME..!
> IT HAS BECOME, SHOULD I SAY: A QUIET RIOT..!
> MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS
> AT LEAST HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, NOW KNOW
> ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY..!
Have there been any articles published on this? Have any of the
reporters interviewed you?
If not, how do you know?
Part of being a scientist, mad or not, is to challenge our
perceptions and verify our beliefs. So what makes you believe that they
know of this technology? Are they running articles or advertisements
for this?
I suspect they are not, mostly because Enermed, a Canadian provider
of migraine mitigation magnetic waves, has not been approved (meaning is
banned) in the USA.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Dec 27 04:04:42 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Dec 27 04:04:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sleeping on a windowsill?
Message-ID: <000101c60ad5$5732d9e0$6401a8c0@mikey>
The _New York Times),
December 27, 2005
Quantum Trickery: Testing Einstein's Strangest Theory
By DENNIS OVERBYE
Einstein said there would be days like this.
This fall scientists announced that they had put a half dozen beryllium
atoms into a "cat state."
No, they were not sprawled along a sunny windowsill. To a physicist, a "cat
state" is the condition of being two diametrically opposed conditions at
once, like black and white, up and down, or dead and alive.
These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same
time. Moreover, like miniature Rockettes they were all doing whatever it was
they were doing together, in perfect synchrony. Should one of them realize,
like the cartoon character who runs off a cliff and doesn't fall until he
looks down, that it is in a metaphysically untenable situation and decide to
spin only one way, the rest would instantly fall in line, whether they were
across a test tube or across the galaxy.
The idea that measuring the properties of one particle could instantaneously
change the properties of another one (or a whole bunch) far away is strange
to say the least - almost as strange as the notion of particles spinning in
two directions at once. The team that pulled off the beryllium feat, led by
Dietrich Leibfried at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, in
Boulder, Colo., hailed it as another step toward computers that would use
quantum magic to perform calculations.
But it also served as another demonstration of how weird the world really is
according to the rules, known as quantum mechanics.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/science/27eins.html?th&emc=th
From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Dec 27 10:24:25 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 27 10:24:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sleeping on a windowsill?
In-Reply-To: <000101c60ad5$5732d9e0$6401a8c0@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Dec
27, 2005 06:04:42 AM
Message-ID: <20051227172425.34949.qmail@mall-net.com>
> These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same
> time. Moreover, like miniature Rockettes they were all doing whatever it =
> was they were doing together, in perfect synchrony. Should one of them =
> realize,
> like the cartoon character who runs off a cliff and doesn't fall until =
> he looks down, that it is in a metaphysically untenable situation and =
> decide to
> spin only one way, the rest would instantly fall in line, whether they =
> were across a test tube or across the galaxy.
This, along with the concept known as Chronons, if proven, would
suggest that life as we know it merely a simulation in some kind of
large computational device.
> Technology, in
> Boulder, Colo., hailed it as another step toward computers that would =
> use quantum magic to perform calculations.
I'll believe that when I see it. Maybe... Because I DO NOT
believe that the phenomenon is properly understood!
It is more likely one is creating a depression in the local
probabilistic surface, which springs back elastically.
Or some other just as ridiculous explanation!
> But it also served as another demonstration of how weird the world =
> really is according to the rules, known as quantum mechanics.
I do NOT believe that quantum mechanics, "as we know it" is real; I
believe that something ELSE is happening, and that the scientists who
think they can quantumly entangle stuff are delusional. I believe there
are other things which CAN explain the mis-interpretations of
mis-observations in this area.
Indeed, one of our members (if he's still here) has been doing
experiments disproving some portion of quantum theory.
Friend, would you care to comment on this experiment? Please!
Curious minds would like to know.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/science/27eins.html?th&emc=3Dth
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 27 12:34:09 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Dec 27 12:35:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Links to Clyde's brainwave entrainment work
In-Reply-To: <20051225230616.49991.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051227193409.95636.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> I got these attachments from Clyde today. They passed muster with Mikey's
> security department, so they are clean.
I looked at the podfunk version.
Interesting idea to use a pipe. Looks on check of a lot more rugged
than what I built! But with mine, I can actually do work while it is
running. You might want to cut some eye and nose holes out on the pipe,
Clyde.
I INTEND ONLY TO USE IT AT NIGHTTIME; UNLESS THERE ARE
OTHER REASONS THAT I WOULD POSSIBLY NEED TO USE IT.
Wear it forward for work, backwards for pure meditation.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY WEARING IT FORWARD
AND BACKWARD, UNLESS YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE
UP AND DOWN (INPUT) PHASING OF THE FIELD COILS..?
I don't know as I would call it Tesla Technology though.
I WOULD; AND I DO..!
TESLA DESERVES SO MUCH MORE MORE CREDIT THAN
THE FUCKERS OF MAINSTREAM DOGMATISM SCIENCE
GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR..!
There is already a http://www.TeslaTech.com a ttr,com, etc. I don't
know if Tesla ever did anything with brain wave entrainment, as he
didn't seem to realize how harmful some of his stuff might have been
to humans.
YEAH; THERE IS TESLA TECH; AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE
'SO-CALLED' INTERNATIONAL TESLA SOCIETY BACK IN AROUND
96' , BUT THE TESLA TECH STUFF / CONVENTIONS, ETC. , IS
MOSTLY ALL FLUFF, AND NEVERENDING GO NOWHERE TALK.
I TALKED TO RICHARD HULL, AND HE INFORMED ME THAT
HE QUIT ATTENDING THE TESLA TECH FORUMS, DUE TO
THE THEATER OF OPERATIONS WHICH THEY HAVE.
LATER, CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 27 13:00:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Links to Clyde's brainwave entrainment work
In-Reply-To: <20051227193409.95636.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Dec 27, 2005 11:34:09 AM
Message-ID: <20051227200042.71736.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Interesting idea to use a pipe. Looks on check of a lot more rugged
> than what I built! But with mine, I can actually do work while it is
> running. You might want to cut some eye and nose holes out on the pipe,
> Clyde.
>
> I INTEND ONLY TO USE IT AT NIGHTTIME; UNLESS THERE ARE
> OTHER REASONS THAT I WOULD POSSIBLY NEED TO USE IT.
Any time you feel run down, angry, etc.
> Wear it forward for work, backwards for pure meditation.
>
> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY WEARING IT FORWARD
> AND BACKWARD, UNLESS YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE
> UP AND DOWN (INPUT) PHASING OF THE FIELD COILS..?
Eye holes forward to be able to do things, eye holes backward when
you want to meditate.
7.83 hz is great for cleaning out the grumbling mind and getting it
restarted. 16hz starts it thinking if there is something to think
about. 30 is high speed thought; but you'd better have focused on
something and had some ideas first. 7.83 helps generate those ideas.
> I don't know as I would call it Tesla Technology though.
>
> I WOULD; AND I DO..!
> TESLA DESERVES SO MUCH MORE MORE CREDIT THAN
> THE FUCKERS OF MAINSTREAM DOGMATISM SCIENCE
> GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR..!
Maybe. The question is whether this stuff was really practical, or
whether it would be harmful, as pumping high frequency energy though the
air would be. And also whether it was all real, or part showmanship to
attract more investors.
I do not know the answer!
What I do not see, is others re-inventing his more intriguing
inventions, like the supposedly free energy. So was it real, or pure
showmanship? Geniuses often go bad, being frustrated by the way this
world works and how other people can't see "it". Bad genius applied to
consmanship frightening! But sometimes inspiring. He may have done
some of these things to inspire others to TRY to find the things he
couldn't. I don't know.
If we have come all this way with our understanding of physics,
how come we haven't re-invented those things??? And don't give me that
conspiracy crap, because I've worked as a consultant for EPRI, the
Electrical Power Research Institute for the electrical companies of the
USA. The power companies would LOVE to get their hands on ANYTHING that
is cheaper AND LESS POLLUTING than burning coal, oil, and natural gas
for power!!! Some of these companies have to PAY CONSUMERS to buy LESS
energy intensive appliances, etc. just to keep below capacity and
pollution regulations. Believe me, they WANT cheap electricity! It's
the energy brokers like Enron that didn't, and you saw what happened to
them after they over did it. Jailtime!!!
(Though believe me, despite EPRI being the Creme de la Creme of the
utility industry, EPRI was politicized crap in some ways too. Great
minds are not attracted to the utility operating companies, any more
than they are to the railroads these days!)
Our nation NEEDS cheap, low pollution energy. Energy is what our
economy is based on. We use it far more efficiently than growing third
world nations, which are now starting to bid against us for oil. It's
becoming a very big problem as China starts siphoning the oil of the
world. And Africa is just starting.
> There is already a http://www.TeslaTech.com a ttr,com, etc. I don't
> know if Tesla ever did anything with brain wave entrainment, as he
> didn't seem to realize how harmful some of his stuff might have been
> to humans.
>
> YEAH; THERE IS TESLA TECH; AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE
> 'SO-CALLED' INTERNATIONAL TESLA SOCIETY BACK IN AROUND
> 96' , BUT THE TESLA TECH STUFF / CONVENTIONS, ETC. , IS
> MOSTLY ALL FLUFF, AND NEVERENDING GO NOWHERE TALK.
Cults of people who are too small minded to have real ideas of their
own. It's so common! Most people want and need to be lead. One in
seven has some leadership potential. One in a hundred can do a decent
job; hence the Roman Centurions, men who lead one hundred men. (Beyond
that, it becomes politicians, some good, more bad.)
> I TALKED TO RICHARD HULL, AND HE INFORMED ME THAT
> HE QUIT ATTENDING THE TESLA TECH FORUMS, DUE TO
> THE THEATER OF OPERATIONS WHICH THEY HAVE.
Yes.
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From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Dec 27 14:38:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 14, Issue 25
In-Reply-To: <20051227190002.56D4339867@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20051227213749.31960.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I am a recent member, confining myself mostly to vitamin and supplement based self-experimentation ( such as DHT supression through mega doses of saw palmetto - which is causing dormant follicles to become active, making my hair grow back) and am not real familiar with the nuances of Quantum Physics.
I do know it's all theoretical, but there seems to be these all of headlines when something, especially astonomy based, appears to be proven. I just rarely hear the opposite.
My question is: Are there many quantum theories that are being shown as completely wrong or , in general, do the ideas hold water and appear to be validated by emerging research?
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The _New York Times),
December 27, 2005
Quantum Trickery: Testing Einstein's Strangest Theory
By DENNIS OVERBYE
Einstein said there would be days like this.
This fall scientists announced that they had put a half dozen beryllium
atoms into a "cat state."
No, they were not sprawled along a sunny windowsill. To a physicist, a "cat
state" is the condition of being two diametrically opposed conditions at
once, like black and white, up and down, or dead and alive.
These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same
time. Moreover, like miniature Rockettes they were all doing whatever it was
they were doing together, in perfect synchrony. Should one of them realize,
like the cartoon character who runs off a cliff and doesn't fall until he
looks down, that it is in a metaphysically untenable situation and decide to
spin only one way, the rest would instantly fall in line, whether they were
across a test tube or across the galaxy.
The idea that measuring the properties of one particle could instantaneously
change the properties of another one (or a whole bunch) far away is strange
to say the least - almost as strange as the notion of particles spinning in
two directions at once. The team that pulled off the beryllium feat, led by
Dietrich Leibfried at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, in
Boulder, Colo., hailed it as another step toward computers that would use
quantum magic to perform calculations.
But it also served as another demonstration of how weird the world really is
according to the rules, known as quantum mechanics.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/science/27eins.html?th&emc=th
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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:24:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: javilk@mall-net.com
Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] Sleeping on a windowsill?
To: mbest@triad.rr.com
Cc: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG
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> These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same
> time. Moreover, like miniature Rockettes they were all doing whatever it =
> was they were doing together, in perfect synchrony. Should one of them =
> realize,
> like the cartoon character who runs off a cliff and doesn't fall until =
> he looks down, that it is in a metaphysically untenable situation and =
> decide to
> spin only one way, the rest would instantly fall in line, whether they =
> were across a test tube or across the galaxy.
This, along with the concept known as Chronons, if proven, would
suggest that life as we know it merely a simulation in some kind of
large computational device.
> Technology, in
> Boulder, Colo., hailed it as another step toward computers that would =
> use quantum magic to perform calculations.
I'll believe that when I see it. Maybe... Because I DO NOT
believe that the phenomenon is properly understood!
It is more likely one is creating a depression in the local
probabilistic surface, which springs back elastically.
Or some other just as ridiculous explanation!
> But it also served as another demonstration of how weird the world =
> really is according to the rules, known as quantum mechanics.
I do NOT believe that quantum mechanics, "as we know it" is real; I
believe that something ELSE is happening, and that the scientists who
think they can quantumly entangle stuff are delusional. I believe there
are other things which CAN explain the mis-interpretations of
mis-observations in this area.
Indeed, one of our members (if he's still here) has been doing
experiments disproving some portion of quantum theory.
Friend, would you care to comment on this experiment? Please!
Curious minds would like to know.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/science/27eins.html?th&emc=3Dth
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 27 14:55:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 14, Issue 25
In-Reply-To: <20051227213749.31960.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Dec 27, 2005 01:37:49 PM
Message-ID: <20051227215542.79395.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I am a recent member, confining myself mostly to vitamin and
> supplement based self-experimentation ( such as DHT supression through
> mega doses of saw palmetto - which is causing dormant follicles to
> become active, making my hair grow back) and am not real familiar with
> the nuances of Quantum Physics.
> I do know it's all theoretical, but there seems to be these all of
> headlines when something, especially astonomy based, appears to be
> proven. I just rarely hear the opposite.
Little is really PROVEN one way or another except in the minds of
the public, who don't understand it anyway, so they don't care. I mean,
to the public, a quantum leap is the largest possible leap. To a
scientist, it's the smallest possible leap. That's how bad it is!
To see the controversies, you need to read the trade press for
whatever you are interested in.
> My question is: Are there many quantum theories that are being shown
> as completely wrong or , in general, do the ideas hold water and
> appear to be validated by emerging research?
See http://www.unquantum.com
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Dec 27 16:23:47 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Dec 27 16:23:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Cats and strings
Message-ID: <001601c60b3c$96cb7fa0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Although I have *absolutely* no idea how to even begin supporting this
theory, I think quantum mechanics is a natural corollary (or subset) of
superstring theory. Just my sixth sense feels good with this idea.
-Mike
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Dec 27 22:40:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Vanadium RedOx battery
Message-ID: <20051228054031.68417.qmail@mall-net.com>
Lead Acid is the current most economical and long lasting energy
storage system. It requires time to recharge, and has limited life.
Vanadium RedOx batteries have the advantage that the charge is in
the solution, not the plates. Thus, replacing the solution instantly
recharges the battery.
Yes, you still have to pump electrons into the solution. But you
don't have to do that in the battery. You can do that in a filling
station, allowing rapid (effective) recharge for longer journeys.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3589/vanadium.html
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Dec 30 13:51:43 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Dec 30 13:52:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Top Mysteries of the Cosmos
Message-ID: <20051230205143.27699.qmail@mall-net.com>
Is Alpha changing? Can we explain cold fusion? Can the
Tetra-neutron exist? Just what the heck is dark mater and dark energy
really?
These are among the top real mysteries ofthe universe, mysteries
whish drive real scientists mad.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18524911.600
Maybe it's time to hold a membership drive to catch these poor
fellows and let them know they are not alone in the darkness.
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