From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 1 05:08:12 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 1 05:08:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Baptizing Priest Electrocuted! In-Reply-To: <20051101043828.90486.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051101120812.18758.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: In Waco Texas, a rock star pastor baptizing people at the University Baptist Churche was electrocuted when, stepping into the pool of baptismal water, he grabbed a microphone so as to be heard by the 800 strong congregation. Is that a sign from God? Or Darwin? Or that God believes Darwin is adequate to weed out those ignorant of physics? DAMN MAN..! KINDA FUNNY BUT NOT. COMEDY AND TRAGEDY. I WONDER IF THE P.A. SYSTEM HAD TREMENDOUS 60 CYCLE HUM, DURING THE CHURCH SERVICE OPERATION? WHAT IS KNOWN AS AN UNBALANCED MICROPHONE CAN DO THAT TO A PERSON, IF THE P.A. SYSTEM AND MICROPHONE ARE RIGGED IN AN UNPROFESSIONAL, AND SHITTY WAY..! I WONDER WHO THE ROCK STAR PASTOR WAS? ANYONE WELL KNOWN, LIKE LITTLE RICHARD, OR M.C. HAMMER? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051101/9615a789/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Nov 1 20:39:28 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Nov 1 20:39:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Rated NC- No Cats! Message-ID: <001f01c5df5f$07e3bd60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Scientist sees songs in the squeaks of mice The New York Times Published on: 11/01/05 Outside of Pavarotti and a few other humans, humpback whales are perhaps the most famous singers on the planet. The whales' elaborate melodies and complex vocalizations have inspired musicians and wildlife lovers and spawned best-selling albums. Now one of the largest mammals has been matched by one of the smallest. Scientists have discovered that mice sing. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/science/1105/01singingmice.html?cxntnid =amn110105e From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 2 09:39:08 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 2 09:40:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: The Pledge of Allegiance In-Reply-To: <003501c5de9f$b7ae31a0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20051102163909.28061.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> MY SARCASTIC PLEDGE: PLEDGE TO THE NAZI THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE (REMAKE:): I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE NAZI THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE, AND TO THE ROBOTS, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, DIVISIBLE, WITHOUT LIBERTY, AND WITHOUT JUSTICE FOR ALL. BY: CLYDE LOFTON Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: http://patriotfilesannex.org/Pledge.htm Well, what Red Skelton says here is touching, and was accurate decades ago. However, today I believe that using the words "under God" is sacrilege! Our Nation hardly exists under God anymore- homosexual marriage, the welfare state, abortion at a whim, Government control of the smallest detail of our daily lives, etc. Further, "Liberty and Justice" are only available to those with the means to purchase them. If you don't believe me, then ask O.J. Simpson, Martha Stewart, and soon, Tom DeLay! If you think you have Liberty, just try to use your own land for some purpose that the jack-booted Government does not approve of! You will quickly learn what American Liberty is! We have all the justice and liberty money can buy! BUT DON'T COME WITH AN EMPTY PURSE AND ASK FOR EITHER! So why should ANY Freedom and Liberty loving Christian red-blooded American even recite this worthless Pledge, I ask you? WHY should I pledge MY allegiance to a flag that represents the antithesis of what our Founding Fathers enumerated in the Constitution of the United States, the antithesis of what multitudes of Americans have given their very LIVES to defend? And today, we are hardly "one Nation under God;" we have many gods- Yhwh, Jehovah, Allah, The Dollar Almighty, and many others. Do you see Homeland Security profiling young Arab males at airports, or searching grandmothers and making everyone remove their shoes? The god of Political Correctness prevents this profiling! May The Almighty Lord Dollar help us were we to insult a Islamic terrorist Arab carrying fifty pounds of semtex or triacetone triperoxide! How must the one true God look upon our wanton sinfulness and hypocrisy? I have not said the pledge of allegiance in years, and refuse to until this nation repents of its institutionalized sinful debauchery! -MB --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GEORGE KAISER. 25. WILLIAMS COMMUNICATIONS. 26. STEVE J. MALCOM. 27. BILL LAFORTUNE. 28. KEITH MADDEN. 29. HENRY ZARROW. 30. http://www.henrygeorge.org/bust.htm 31. http://www.dustbury.com/archives/002315.html 32. SHELF IN THE ROOM; SONG LYRICS. 33. INDUSTRIAL DEPRESSION. 34. ORAL ROBERTS AND THE CANCER ESTABLISHMENT CENTERS OF AMERIKA. 35. ISLAM AND THE TULSA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT MILITARY INDUSTIAL KOMPLEX. 36. GEORGE KAISER; THE (SANK) BANK OF OKLAHOMA, WILLIAMS KOMMUNICATIONS FASCIST KORPORATE STATE. 37. (KOMMUNIST) EDUKATIONAL SYSTEM, UNDERMINING AMERICA. 38. SEXUAL ILLNESS. 39. ECONOMIC ILLNESS. 40. ENERGY ILLNESS. 41. KHEMICAL ILLNESS. 42. PESTILLENCE ILLNESS. 43. PHARMACOLOGY ILLNESS. 44. PHARMAKOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX. 45. WATER TOXI-CITY ILLNESS. 46. FOOD ALLERGY AND TOXICITY ILLNESS. 47. SOCIAL ILLNESS. 48. ATMOSPHERE - AIR ILLNESS. 49. CARDIOVASCULAR ILLNESS. 50. ACID AND ALKALINE BODY pH BALANCE. 51. ENVIRONMENTAL ILLNESS. 52. SPEC MEA IN DEO EST. 53. NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051102/2fd8bdb5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Nov 2 12:09:57 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Nov 2 12:10:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: The Pledge of Allegiance In-Reply-To: <20051102163909.28061.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 02, 2005 08:39:08 AM Message-ID: <20051102190958.56462.qmail@mall-net.com> > MY SARCASTIC PLEDGE: > > PLEDGE TO THE NAZI THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE (REMAKE:): > > I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE NAZI > THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE, AND TO THE ROBOTS, FOR > WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, DIVISIBLE, > WITHOUT LIBERTY, AND WITHOUT JUSTICE FOR ALL. You know, Clyde, if you keep saying this, you'll start believing it. and when you do, you'll just give up hope, wither, and die inside. Is that what you want? Or do you want better? > However, today I believe that using the words "under God" is sacrilege! Our > Nation hardly exists under God anymore- homosexual marriage, the welfare > state, abortion at a whim, Government control of the smallest detail of our > daily lives, etc. Further, "Liberty and Justice" are only available to The universe exists under God. Whether he, she, or they are paying attention is another matter. I think God has faith in us, that we will do what is best for us. And if you look at history... this is the best of times! We live the longest time! We have comforts the Kings of middle ages could only dream about. > those with the means to purchase them. If you don't believe me, then ask > O.J. Simpson, Martha Stewart, and soon, Tom DeLay! If you think you have > Liberty, just try to use your own land for some purpose that the jack-booted > Government does not approve of! Well, what if your neighbor decided to build a fireworks factory next to your property. You know, the bunkers, sulphurous fumes from testing the powders, all kinds of metal nano-particles from testing the colors, etc. etc., not to mention the occasional oopsie that flattens a bunch of trees, homes, etc. Or as Michelle has been having trouble with, someone incompentently dumping huge doeses of pesticides, and upping the dose when she complains, so as to force her to the hospital over and over again. Not to mention that some of this changes property values. So we need some restrictions. > You will quickly learn what American Liberty is! We have all the justice > and liberty money can buy! BUT DON'T COME WITH AN EMPTY PURSE AND ASK FOR > EITHER! Money does help; but it's not always enough, nor always requried. > So why should ANY Freedom and Liberty loving Christian red-blooded American > even recite this worthless Pledge, I ask you? Because it reminds us of ideals and values. And without ideals and values to act as a rudder, we are lost at sea. > WHY should I pledge MY allegiance to a flag that represents the antithesis > of what our Founding Fathers enumerated in the Constitution of the United > States, the antithesis of what multitudes of Americans have given their very > LIVES to defend? Because it's a hell of a lot better than what else, that's why!!! > And today, we are hardly "one Nation under God;" we have many gods- Yhwh, > Jehovah, Allah, The Dollar Almighty, and many others. Do you see Homeland Did one God create the A-rabs, and another the Jews? Or is it just a matter of mortal oppinion? > Security profiling young Arab males at airports, or searching grandmothers > and making everyone remove their shoes? The god of Political Correctness > prevents this profiling! May The Almighty Lord Dollar help us were we to > insult a Islamic terrorist Arab carrying fifty pounds of semtex or > triacetone triperoxide! Sometimes, we just have to be a little fairer than absolutely needed. > How must the one true God look upon our wanton sinfulness and hypocrisy? I think favorably compared to other wanton sinfullness, such as found in other nations, like what goes on in some of the deeper parts of Africa, or Bosnia, Cambodia, or the like. Not to mention my dead relatives in Siberia. And if you think animals are better... They're not. So I do say the pleage of alegiance, and mean it with the fullness of my heart. This nation took my parents in, clothed them, fed them, helped them gain a start. It let them feed and clothe me, educated me far, far beyond what I could get elsewhere; and gave me a chance to be a moral and honest man, not a thief and a liar the way those behind the iron curtain had to learn to be to survive. Sure, we have flaws, plenty of them. But in comparison, we look pretty darned good! Open your eyes, that you may open your heart. That is why with tears in my eyes, I say that I hold my Amercan Citizenship as the highest honor I can ever have. And I am sure that a lot of people trying to cross our boarders would agree. "Oo-ohh Say can you Seeee...." -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- ----- Advice, Analysis, Strategies, Development ----- Serving the World for three generations, since 1933 ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 2 17:18:31 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 2 17:18:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Pledge of Allegiance. In-Reply-To: <20051102190958.56462.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051103001831.89646.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > MY SARCASTIC PLEDGE: > > PLEDGE TO THE NAZI THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE (REMAKE:): > > I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE NAZI > THEOCRACY OF EMPIRE, AND TO THE ROBOTS, FOR > WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, DIVISIBLE, > WITHOUT LIBERTY, AND WITHOUT JUSTICE FOR ALL. You know, Clyde, if you keep saying this, you'll start believing it. and when you do, you'll just give up hope, wither, and die inside. IT HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY..! I END UP COMING BACK TO THE SAME PROBLEMS ALL OVER AGAIN AT LATER DATES; AND MANY TIMES THOSE LATER DATES ARE STILL TOO LATE. I HAVE LEARNED THAT ALL OF THE IGNORANT DUMBASS MASSES OF HEEDLESS THRONG IDIOTS; WANT ALL PEOPLE WHO STRIVE FOR SUCCESS, TO FAIL. PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO STRIVE TOWARD SUCCESS IN LIFE ARE FOUGHT AGAINST BY THE BRAINLESS DUMBASS MASSES OF ENDLESSLY STUPID SHEEPLE PEOPLE. THE DUMBASS MASSES ATTACK THE THINGS WHICH THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND; BECAUSE THEY ARE IGNORANT AND STUPID..! Is that what you want? Or do you want better? I WANT BETTER..! BECAUSE I'M SICK OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS SHIT OF THE STUPID BRAINDEAD AND BRAINLESS DUMBASS MASSES OF ROBO ROUTINE - WORKSLAVES..! LATER, CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051102/e79254d5/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 4 05:31:18 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 4 05:31:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: More on the Minato Wheel ZPE device. In-Reply-To: <20050918232037.82164.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051104123118.11444.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: I WANT MASS PRODUCTION OF AUDIO AMPLIFIED, METRONOME DRIVEN, TIME AND FREQUENCY SYNCHRONIZED, MINATO WHEELS GOING, A.S.A.P. , TO DRIVE BADLY NEEDED MICROELECTRIC GENERATORS, FOR REDUNDANT SMALL SCALE ELECTRIC-PLANTS FOR US ALL..! CLYDE Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=dual --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051104/890a654f/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 4 05:39:01 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 4 05:39:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE. Message-ID: <20051104123901.899.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> THROUGHOUT SPACE THERE IS ENERGY. IS THIS ENERGY STATIC, OR KINETIC? IF STATIC, OUR HOPES ARE IN VAIN. IF KINETIC; AND THIS WE KNOW IT IS FOR CERTAIN; THEN IT IS A MERE QUESTION OF TIME WHEN MEN WILL SUCCEED IN ATTACHING THEIR MACHINERY TO THE VERY WHEELWORK OF NATURE. NIKOLA TESLA --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051104/41929144/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 4 09:11:21 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:11:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... Message-ID: <20051104161122.44338.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> SOME OF MY POSTINGS ARE BEING BLOCKED. SOMEONE; OR THE GOVERNMENT HAVE HACKED INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051104/7f7e262b/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Nov 4 10:40:00 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Nov 4 10:40:36 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051104161122.44338.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 04, 2005 08:11:21 AM Message-ID: <20051104174000.63105.qmail@mall-net.com> > SOME OF MY POSTINGS ARE BEING BLOCKED. > SOMEONE; OR THE GOVERNMENT HAVE > HACKED INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT. I remember some old saying someplace. Do not attribute to malice that which may be more easily explained by stupidity and accident. And let me tell you Clyde, despite my IQ, I have done A LOT of really stupidid things! I remember leaving one work out of a business proposal that made a what would have been a multi-million dollar deal look like the work of a lunatic. And my partner didn't catch it either. That's not the only one. It could be typos, packet loss, configuration errors, or many other things, yours, or someone else's. But I doubt you are big enough for some government awficial to bother to screw with. If they did, you'd probably just disappear rom our horizon. So if you aren't plotting anything the scale of Old Salami Been Loaded, or bluffing like Sand man Has been, you've got nothing to worry about! So relax, laugh at your mistakes, and try again. Or do something better, more interesting. You meed to find something to really laugh about, Clyde. And something to warm your heart. We're all mortal human beings, we all need something to warm our hearts, be it a great photo we've taken, or... some wonderful friends whom we remember. (There's an old song I remember... "Still I love, my summer time love..." I was 17 then. It's been decades... the thought of her still warms my heart.) Clyde, "don't sweat the small stuff." Go out and live. Look for something beautiful. It might be the rainbow glinting form an oil slick, a little frog drenched in dew from a flower it banged into, or a warm hug from a friend. There's beauty out there, and you need, yes need to go out there and look for it. -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Nov 4 12:47:51 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Nov 4 12:48:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Attaching to the wheelwork of the universe Message-ID: <007e01c5e178$a4b33420$d0c5bc41@mikey> One man's work, and it is Open Source- he wants others to build upon his efforts. http://www.nuenergy.org/projects/tc.htm From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 4 20:58:09 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 4 20:58:42 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20051105035809.32967.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> WEBLINKS: http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=tesla-exp http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.occultopedia.com/t/tesla_nikola.htm http://www.plans-kits.com/plans/plans.html http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 5 04:15:58 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 5 04:16:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20051105111558.13747.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> WEBLINKS: http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=tesla-exp http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.occultopedia.com/t/tesla_nikola.htm http://www.plans-kits.com/plans/plans.html http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051105/c864105e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 5 04:35:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 5 04:35:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051104174000.63105.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051105113502.86841.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES, OVER AND OVER TO SEND A SMALL LIST OF WEBLINKS TO THE MAD-SCI LIST, BUT IT BEING BLOCKED SOMEHOW; OR IS BEING STOLEN SOMEHOW, OR SOMETHING, BY SPYWARE. I HAVE A HUNCH THAT MY YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED INTO, AND THAT IT IS BEING FUCKED WITH. > SOME OF MY POSTINGS ARE BEING BLOCKED. > SOMEONE; OR THE GOVERNMENT HAVE > HACKED INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT. I remember some old saying someplace. Do not attribute to malice I THNK IT IS MALICE THAT IS GOING ON NOW. TOO MUCH SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT; AND NOT ENOUGH COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE AND NOT ENOUGH WAYS AND MEANS TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT. PART OF IT IS DUE TO MY LACKING OF PATIENCE TO WORK WITH THE ENDLESS INFINITE COMPLEX NONSENSES INVOLVED IN COMPUTERS. that which may be more easily explained by stupidity and accident. And let me tell you Clyde, despite my IQ, I have done A LOT of really stupidid things! I remember leaving one work out of a business proposal that made a what would have been a multi-million dollar deal look like the work of a lunatic. And my partner didn't catch it either. That's not the only one. It could be typos, packet loss, configuration errors, or many other things, yours, or someone else's. I DOUBT IT. IT SEEMS TO BE COMPUTER KONTROLLED, OR SOMETHING; BECAUSE HUMAN KONTROL CANNOT BE 24 HOURS; DAY AND NIGHT; IN SOMEONE FUCKING WITH MY ACCOUNT. I THINK THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT IS BEING USED AGAINST ME. THE GOVT. IS MAKING MANY MANY PEOPLE UNPATRIOTIC OF THIS POLITIAN AND PEOPLE SCREWED COUNTRY ANYWAY. But I doubt you are big enough for some government awficial to bother to screw with. If they did, you'd probably just disappear rom our horizon. So if you aren't plotting anything the scale of Old Salami Been Loaded, or bluffing like Sand man Has been, you've got nothing to worry about! So relax, laugh at your mistakes, and try again. Or do something better, more interesting. You meed to find something to really laugh about, Clyde. And something to warm your heart. We're all mortal human beings, we all need something to warm our hearts, be it a great photo we've taken, or... some wonderful friends whom we remember. (There's an old song I remember... "Still I love, my summer time love..." I was 17 then. It's been decades... the thought of her still warms my heart.) Clyde, "don't sweat the small stuff." WHAT SMALL STUFF? IN THINK I HAVE PROBABLY RAISED A LOT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES, WITH ALL OF THE HELL RAISING THAT I'VE DONE. Go out and live. Look for something beautiful. It might be the rainbow glinting form an oil slick, a little frog drenched in dew from a flower it banged into, or a warm hug from a friend. There's beauty out there, and you need, yes need to go out there and look for it. REDBUD VALLEY; I'D LIKE TO TAKE PICTURES THERE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051105/fee05225/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 5 04:40:39 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 5 04:40:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIFE JUST HURTS SO MUCH. Message-ID: <20051105114039.67958.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> LIFE HURTS SO MUCH. I'M STRIVING FOR INDEPENDENCE AND FREEDOM, BUT THE FASCIST CORPORATE STATE, ETC., IS / ARE PREVENTING INDEPENDENCE AND FREEDOM. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051105/2e256fbe/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 5 04:44:12 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 5 04:44:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20051105114412.1662.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> WEBLINKS: http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=tesla-exp http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.occultopedia.com/t/tesla_nikola.htm http://www.plans-kits.com/plans/plans.html http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051105/a193929b/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Nov 5 09:52:32 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Nov 5 09:52:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Check out Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace Message-ID: <25a.425dc0.309e3d50@aol.com> _Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace_ (http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm) This is a long read site. I found tons of information that one never knows it will be needed by yourself or by family. I have never given a thought to my garbage, or to the things that trigger a police man to become interested in my behavior. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051105/c4a5406f/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 5 11:48:50 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 5 11:48:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051105113502.86841.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 05, 2005 03:35:02 AM Message-ID: <20051105184850.59577.qmail@mall-net.com> > I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES, OVER AND OVER TO > SEND A SMALL LIST OF WEBLINKS TO THE MAD-SCI > LIST, BUT IT BEING BLOCKED SOMEHOW; OR IS BEING > STOLEN SOMEHOW, OR SOMETHING, BY SPYWARE. Spyware does not steal or block. Spam buster software blocks. I would suspect that some of the links are on an X type list, or you are otherwise triggering spam blockers. Some spam blockers block on multiple lines of all caps. Some block on Yahoo, Hotmail and related IDs. Others have rule sets which raise the point counts for each of these items. But with thousands of spams an hour to some IDs, people do have to use various kinds of filters to try to keep some of that garbage out of their mailboxes. I ought to know, spam busters killed one of my businesses -- I was selling information on popular words. Gee wiz! It's the popular words spam busters use to decide what to block! This did not please my paying customers... but it was THEIR ISPs that did it to them, and killed my business. > I HAVE A HUNCH THAT MY YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT > HAS BEEN HACKED INTO, AND THAT IT IS BEING > FUCKED WITH. Could be, or suddenly, Yahoo is originating too much spam, raising the point score too much. > I remember some old saying someplace. Do not attribute to malice > that which may be more easily explained by stupidity and accident. > I THNK IT IS MALICE THAT IS GOING ON NOW. > TOO MUCH SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT; AND NOT > ENOUGH COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE AND NOT > ENOUGH WAYS AND MEANS TO DEAL WITH ALL > OF THE SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT. That is not centered around YOU personally. We all get that crap! And there is little we can do about it, other than filter, filter, filter. > PART OF IT IS DUE TO MY LACKING OF PATIENCE > TO WORK WITH THE ENDLESS INFINITE COMPLEX > NONSENSES INVOLVED IN COMPUTERS. Computers are not nonsense. People on the other hand... > I THINK THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT IS BEING USED > AGAINST ME. > THE GOVT. IS MAKING MANY MANY PEOPLE UNPATRIOTIC > OF THIS POLITIAN AND PEOPLE SCREWED COUNTRY ANYWAY. > Clyde, "don't sweat the small stuff." > > WHAT SMALL STUFF? > IN THINK I HAVE PROBABLY RAISED A LOT OF BELLS AND > WHISTLES, WITH ALL OF THE HELL RAISING THAT I'VE DONE. Clyde, what have you done? Protested some FCC regulations? Been arrested? I don't think so. I doubt anyone really cares about what you do other than when you violate laws. > Go out and live. Look for something beautiful. It might be the rainbow > glinting form an oil slick, a little frog drenched in dew from a flower it > banged into, or a warm hug from a friend. There's beauty out there, > and you need, yes need to go out there and look for it. > > REDBUD VALLEY; I'D LIKE TO TAKE PICTURES THERE..! Look around you. You need to lood for beauty in everyday places, or you'll never find beauty every day. You should make beauty a part of every day life. It's there all around you, you just need to acknowledge it, embrace it. You can't continue fighting the entire world all the time. There is plenty of good and beauty for you to rest your mind with. One good philosopher is the Dalai Lama. I happen to disagree with some of what he says; but there's a lot of good there. One of his books is "Dalai Lama: The Path to Tranquility" It is a book of daily sayings, with space for your to list your counterpoints or agreements. I happen to think he totally screwed up Tibet and his people with his tranquility and joy bit; but he does have a lot of good sayings. They are sayings that you should meditate upon, either accepting or rejecting specifics after _Contemplating_ them -- sitting quietly and seeing what comes to mind after you read a saying. Make it part of your daily rituals, just loke brushing your teeth. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 09:31:04 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 09:31:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT? Message-ID: <20051106163104.14075.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OF AMERICA, NOW THAT THE BUSH AND CHENEY ADMINIFUCKTION HAS TRANCEFORMED AMERICA, INTO AMERIKA??? --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/1415ee83/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 09:38:36 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 09:38:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Weblink. Message-ID: <20051106163837.41703.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> UNDER: RECENT POSTS: THE RIGHT HAS GONE TOO FAR. http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=niu46 --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/29edd789/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 6 12:46:33 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 6 12:46:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT? In-Reply-To: <20051106163104.14075.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 06, 2005 08:31:04 AM Message-ID: <20051106194633.7998.qmail@mall-net.com> > IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OF AMERICA, NOW > THAT THE BUSH AND CHENEY ADMINIFUCKTION > HAS TRANCEFORMED AMERICA, INTO AMERIKA??? I don't know, Clyde. At the moment, I'm socked in with fog so thick I can hardly see my hand in front of my face. Another clouds is plowing into the mountain, and with my generators busted, I will soon have to shut down till sunlight comes again. If you go outside, do you see anything, any people? Any buildings? If you do, I'd suspect America is still here. It has to be, because America is just about the only place we have enough freedom to be Real mad scientists. (Some of the other democratic nations are not that bad; but we have more crazies here, so we get more than our share of mad scientists.) Some say that even if but one person believes in America, then America is still there. Or here. I still believe, so as far as I am concerned, America is still here. If anyone still believes in Decency, in doing his or her part and then some, in treating others decently, in The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution; then America is still here. I know my friends Bob, Mike, JM, and Raffi still believe in these things. Raffi came over from the other side. He fought long and hard to be allowed to stay. He believes in America with all his heart, as to all my other close friends. So America is still here. My father came over too. He saw it as the land of opportunity, yet once here, he turned down some very good opportunities so he could work in Defense, helping keep America free. (And did a fair bit of mad science in his spare time, too!) He and his father risked their lives in WW-II sending information to the Allies because they believed in America. Grandpa is long dead; but my father believes in America with all his heart, as do I. I think he is still alive, at least he was yesterday. So America is still here. As long as one of us remains standing, America is still here! In our hearts and minds, in our souls. And we are willing to give everything we have, including our lives making sure America is still Here!!! And even when we are gone, America will echo in our souls, ready to rekindle America wherever we are reborn. Clyde, America is in our hearts! You have to have America in your heart, you HAVE to Believe! If there is anything wrong with many people today, it is that some have not been taught the value and the power of believing in America. For if you do not believe in America as the land of opportunity, then you can not believe in yourself! That is what's wrong with your statements. You do not believe America is the Land of Opportunity. I don't know if that is because you don't believe in yourself first, or if you don't believe in America first. But clearly, you don't believe. Sure, many things are less than perfict in America; but over all, it's a damned good place to be! Better than any other in my book! What you seem to believe in, is all the negatives. And by doing that, you give them power over you. "Now power where no belief", Clyde. If you believe in the negatives, you start to believe your life is all futile and worthless. And then, stop trying. And then you are nothing but a cog in a huge machine that does not exist except in your mind. BELIEVE in America, believe for your self, believe for your neighbors, believe... that America can continue, WILL continue. And with that, INVEST your thoughts and your heart in tomorrow. And yes, in your own humble way, try to improve America, even if only by sweeping the sidewalk in front of your home. For that inspires others, even if just a little, to improve themselves. America, America, God gave his grace to Thee And crowned thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea. I mean, just look at Bosnia, Uganda, Rowanda... ethnic cleansing all over the place. How many dead bodies do you see every day, Clyde? Not many! I bet none. Even a coroner in a major city sees less bodies than some of the common folks in Bosnia, Uganda, Rowanda, and other places like that see. Whether you succeed or fail is up to you. But without America, without the belief in America and the Freedom and Opportunities it stands for, how can you even try, really try, to do anything beyond yourself? You become hemmed in by demons of you own mind, demons that only exist in your mind because you create them with your fears. Come, look beyond yourself. Look at how life flows in this world. Look at how life flow in the the people around you. Look at how people invest in the future every day. Your customers are buying things, no? So they have to believe in Tomorrow! Look at the beliefs of the more successful around you. Contrast them with your own beliefs. Then do something about that. The first freedom, the one from which all other freedoms flow, is the freedom to believe. For with that, you start shaping yourself. The second freedom is the freedom to perceive as deeply as you wish. For with that, you start shaping what you will do. I ask you, Clyde, to give yourself the freedom to perceive the good and the beautiful around you. And to make that a central part of yourself, a part which allows you to echo good around you. This is a sacred thing, Clyde. A sacred duty, not just of mad scientists, but of true humans. For it is the echoes of good that enabled us to build America and with our example of self discipline and self rule, change most of the world for the better. That is why I believe in America. And in the future. And yes, in my self, despite all the dead generators, helpers who have tried to screw me, left me, etc. It does not matter, for I am. I am, I have been, and yet I shall be. I, the soul that lives in this tired and aging body, remembers life in Ancient Greece, in Tibet, and many other places. It says America is the greatest of all time; as Ancient Greece was the best of it's time. I know the future, Clyde. I know it will be there for me tomorrow, and as long as I live. And I will stand for that future, and the America that makes it possible, as long as I can stand, as long as I can crawl, as long as I can breathe. So come, join us in the belief in Tomorrow, and in America. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 13:27:58 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 13:28:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20051106202758.78961.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> WEBLINKS: http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=tesla-exp http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.occultopedia.com/t/tesla_nikola.htm http://www.plans-kits.com/plans/plans.html http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/faedf498/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 13:35:01 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 13:35:04 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Weblink. Message-ID: <20051106203501.14861.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Weblink: http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/aa10886e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 13:46:45 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 13:46:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051105184850.59577.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051106204645.494.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I HAVE A HUNCH THAT MY YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT > HAS BEEN HACKED INTO, AND THAT IT IS BEING > FUCKED WITH. Could be, or suddenly, Yahoo is originating too much spam, raising the point score too much. YES. I AM CERTAIN THAT MY YAHOO ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED INTO, BY MILITARY 'INTELLIGENCE'. > I remember some old saying someplace. Do not attribute to malice > that which may be more easily explained by stupidity and accident. > I THNK IT IS MALICE THAT IS GOING ON NOW. > TOO MUCH SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT; AND NOT > ENOUGH COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE AND NOT > ENOUGH WAYS AND MEANS TO DEAL WITH ALL > OF THE SPAM AND SPYWARE SHIT. That is not centered around YOU personally. We all get that crap! And there is little we can do about it, other than filter, filter, filter. TOO BAD I CANNOT AFFORD FILTER AFTER FILTER AFTER FILTER. MONEY SUPPLY IS FOREVER FAR TOO FINITE..! > PART OF IT IS DUE TO MY LACKING OF PATIENCE > TO WORK WITH THE ENDLESS INFINITE COMPLEX > NONSENSES INVOLVED IN COMPUTERS. Computers are not nonsense. People on the other hand... COMPUTERS AND PEOPLE, BOTH..! MOSTLY PEOPLE. REGARDING SLAVERY; MOST PEOPLE DO INDEED SEEM TO LIKE THEIR SLAVERY; THEY DO NOT LIKE TO BE ENTREPRENEURIAL, THE STUPID ROBO ROUTINE WORKSLAVE SHEEPLE PEOPLE SCREW WITH, AND SCREW UP THE THINGS AND THE PEOPLE WHICH THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND. THEY DO NOT LIKE SUCCESS..! THEY LIKE STUPIDITY..! > I THINK THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT IS BEING USED > AGAINST ME. > THE GOVT. IS MAKING MANY MANY PEOPLE UNPATRIOTIC > OF THIS POLITIAN AND PEOPLE SCREWED COUNTRY ANYWAY. > Clyde, "don't sweat the small stuff." > > WHAT SMALL STUFF? > IN THINK I HAVE PROBABLY RAISED A LOT OF BELLS AND > WHISTLES, WITH ALL OF THE HELL RAISING THAT I'VE DONE. Clyde, what have you done? I HAVE LOOKED AT INTERNET PORN; AND IN DOING SO, HAVE FOUND OUT THAT BOTH THE BOY SCOUTS AND THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE A FASCADE FOR THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY, AND THE RAINBOW GIRLS. RADIO DISNEY IS CURRENTLY UNDERGROUND HOMOSEXUAL - GAY AND LESBIAN AGENDA GEARED TOWARD THE YOUTH..! Protested some FCC regulations? YES..! Been arrested? NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. I don't think so. I doubt anyone really cares about what you do other than when you violate laws. WELL; I AM GUILTY OF COMMUNICATION CRIMES..! I'M TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR THEM NOW, WITH SOME COUNTER PROPAGANDA PROGRAMMING. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/2348a3dd/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 14:01:10 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 14:01:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT? In-Reply-To: <20051106194633.7998.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051106210110.23613.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OF AMERICA, NOW > THAT THE BUSH AND CHENEY ADMINIFUCKTION > HAS TRANCEFORMED AMERICA, INTO AMERIKA??? I don't know, Clyde. ACTUALLY THE WAY THAT I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT: IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT AND RIGHT OF AMERICA ANYMORE??? I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE; TRYING TO GET TO A GREATER GOOD..! LIKE THE BUSH ADMINIFUCKTION AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE TOOK OUT NEW YORK'S TWIN TOWERS, AND SCHEMED ALL OF THE OTHER TERRORIST EVIL SHIT, TO GET TO A GREATER GOOD. AT LEAST I HOPE A GREATER GOOD..! AMERICA HAS BECOME AN INTELLECTUAL WARZONE BETWEEN THE NEO NAZI'S: (NEO CONCERVATIVES), AND THE NEO COMMIE'S: (NEO LIBERALS). I AM SICK OF ALL OF THE GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED SHIT; AND THE MEDIA-MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-KOMMUNE-PLEX BULLSHIT..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/739e0125/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 14:20:23 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Nov 6 14:20:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Should we start flying our American flags upside down??? Message-ID: <20051106212023.6231.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Subject of search: FREEMASONRY DOUBLE HEADED EAGLE SCOTTISH RITE SYMBOL, AND THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE: http://www.austinscottishrite.org/history/eagle.html http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews5/secrethistory.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051106/79bfa4fa/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 6 15:01:46 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 6 15:02:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Should we start flying our American flags upside In-Reply-To: <20051106212023.6231.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 06, 2005 01:20:23 PM Message-ID: <20051106220146.5317.qmail@mall-net.com> > FREEMASONRY DOUBLE HEADED EAGLE SCOTTISH RITE SYMBOL, > AND THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE: Clyde, who cares? It's just one man's opinion, anyway. What about some mad science? I mean, that's what this list is about, no? I mean, this isn't the mad occult conspirators mailing list. And yes, you prompt me to pull in the other direction as if this were the mad patriotic writers mailing list. Sure, it's easy to blame conspiracies for our failures; but we're the lawyers of science, always looking for the loopholes to get humanity off scott free. And if we blame conspiracies... we ain't gonna do our mad science stuff. Fact is, most of the mad science we do is dead wrong. Heck, most of the SCIENCE we do is wrong! By doing it, we find out what's true and what's not so true, or not so comprehensible, or not so, whatever. And in doing that, we discover new things. It's a discouraging process, sure; especially out in the fringes where we mad scientists live and breathe. So we need all the inspiration we can get! So think about what I wrote in that other post about belief. As to the masons, I've stumbles across some reasonable books about them during my life, and know several masons. Stage magic aside, by and large they are decent folks. Like most social groups, they provide their members a social arena, a ladder to advance on so the members can look forward to something, an insurance policy that if a member is lost in a new town, he can get help; and a sense of belonging to something. Sure, some of these use occult symbology, hidden rituals, and such. But the bottom line is... Every one of us has to obey the same laws of physics, and the same laws of the land. No one is above the law. Especially not if one uses arcane symbology which detracts from the time to do other things like... Like being a productive mad scientist. Remember, it only takes one loophole to get our client, humanity, off the energy hook and out into space! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 6 15:06:47 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 6 15:06:52 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Freedom and Chickens Message-ID: <20051106220647.8024.qmail@mall-net.com> >From another mailing list. (Not my post.) ========== My all-time favorite is Jeff Sawyer. Here is one of his observations: ========== In the morning as the sun rose, I would follow the monks through the Thai village, walking some six feet behind them while they begged for food. We moved in silence along the dusty village roads. I carried a bag to hold the donated food, while the monks carried their begging bowls. The dirt roads felt soft and cool under my bare feet. The villagers would bring their sticky rice baskets out to the street. They would lean over, to be lower than the monks, and place a handful or so of rice in each alms bowl. Some would put fruits and bags of vegetables and soy milk in the bowls as well. These donations, along with food brought directly to the monastery each morning, were what the monks ate for their single meal each day. Every morning, as the monks made their rounds, we would pass a large chicken coop with chickens clucking and scratching about inside it. The wood-and-wire-mesh structure was the size of a small house. Inside it, the chickens' heads bobbed above a white cloud of bodies. Some poked at the wire fence and at the corners where the mesh joined the wood posts. The chickens were jammed into the coop, and the smell was terrible. Each time I walked by, I thought about them getting bigger in order to die. One morning a lone chicken was outside of the coop. Some-how it had managed to escape through the fencing. It was free! But the chicken was concerned only with how to get back in. It scrambled around the front of the coop, pecking at the fence and posts. It wanted to be with its fellow chickens, even though the conditions were miserable. The chickens inside clucked louder as they watched the free bird peck. I pointed it out to one of the monks. He said, "Funny. Like us." ========== END OF QUOTE -- from: http://carfreeuniverse.org/Members/jeffreysawyer/livinginquiry ========== sail4free ========== ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/tAfwlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/housetrucks/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: housetrucks-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 6 15:27:01 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 6 15:27:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051106204645.494.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 06, 2005 12:46:45 PM Message-ID: <20051106222701.20132.qmail@mall-net.com> > I AM CERTAIN THAT MY YAHOO ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED > INTO, BY MILITARY 'INTELLIGENCE'. Trust me, Clyde, the have higher priority targets to look for. Virus writers, spammers who us military relays, etc. > That is not centered around YOU personally. We all get that crap! > And there is little we can do about it, other than filter, filter, > filter. > > TOO BAD I CANNOT AFFORD FILTER AFTER FILTER AFTER FILTER. > MONEY SUPPLY IS FOREVER FAR TOO FINITE..! Most of the tools are free. But instead of learning about them, you search for conspiracies. (Sigh) > Computers are not nonsense. People on the other hand... > > COMPUTERS AND PEOPLE, BOTH..! > MOSTLY PEOPLE. That which you do not understand looks like nonsense. See other posts. > Clyde, what have you done? > > I HAVE LOOKED AT INTERNET PORN; AND IN DOING SO, HAVE FOUND Ooh wooh. You and 90% of the rest of America. And the other 10% lies. > OUT THAT BOTH THE BOY SCOUTS AND THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE A > FASCADE FOR THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY, AND THE RAINBOW GIRLS. Oh, gee. And with all that authority, you are passing this rumor on to others? > RADIO DISNEY IS CURRENTLY UNDERGROUND HOMOSEXUAL - GAY > AND LESBIAN AGENDA GEARED TOWARD THE YOUTH..! Realy? I bet they don't know it themselves. > Protested some FCC regulations? > > YES..! > > Been arrested? > > NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID > ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. > I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. Good. That's what they asked for, and that's what you did. > I don't think so. I doubt anyone really cares about what you > do other than when you violate laws. > > WELL; I AM GUILTY OF COMMUNICATION CRIMES..! If you have not been arrested, and have complied, then you're not really a criminal. > I'M TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR THEM NOW, WITH SOME COUNTER > PROPAGANDA PROGRAMMING. Forget it. Do some mad science. Humanity needs that loophole to get out of energy debt. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 7 09:49:07 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:49:17 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A fuel's paradise? Message-ID: <000601c5e3bb$2b9a9e30$d0c5bc41@mikey> Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head . Scientist says device disproves quantum theory . Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths Alok Jha, science correspondent Friday November 4, 2005 The Guardian It seems too good to be true: a new source of near-limitless power that costs virtually nothing, uses tiny amounts of water as its fuel and produces next to no waste. If that does not sound radical enough, how about this: the principle behind the source turns modern physics on its head. Randell Mills, a Harvard University medic who also studied electrical engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, claims to have built a prototype power source that generates up to 1,000 times more heat than conventional fuel. Independent scientists claim to have verified the experiments and Dr Mills says that his company, Blacklight Power, has tens of millions of dollars in investment lined up to bring the idea to market. And he claims to be just months away from unveiling his creation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0%2C3605%2C1627424%2C00.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 7 13:26:40 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 7 13:26:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State Message-ID: <002301c5e3d9$9091a680$d0c5bc41@mikey> We Americans saw the moral bankruptcy of welfare recipients in New Orleans. The French now experience it in Paris! These rioters work no day jobs; by their own admission they sleep all day and riot at night! So who pays their room and board? The French taxpayer, via the welfare system. Idle hands do the devil's work. -MB France struggles as unrest spreads By Sophie Louet REUTERS NEWS AGENCY Published November 3, 2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- PARIS -- Pressure mounted on French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin's government to move quickly to restore order as violence broke out in the suburbs of Paris for the seventh night running. The French government leader canceled a trip to Canada yesterday to tackle the spreading unrest in areas with large African and Muslim populations, and to quell a damaging dispute among his ministers over how to respond. Last night, youths went on a rampage in nine areas in poor suburbs ringing the French capital to the north and the east, setting on fire about 40 cars, two buses and trash cans, as well as causing damage to at least one school and a shopping center. http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20051103-120659-6 090r or: http://tinyurl.com/8xslo From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Nov 7 14:19:33 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Nov 7 14:20:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State In-Reply-To: <002301c5e3d9$9091a680$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 07, 2005 03:26:40 PM Message-ID: <20051107211934.69496.qmail@mall-net.com> > > We Americans saw the moral bankruptcy of welfare recipients in New = > Orleans. The French now experience it in Paris! Both French speaking areas rich in unemployment, discrimination, and blacks. > These rioters work no day jobs; by > their own admission they sleep all day and riot at night! Over 1400 automobiles torched including several busses. Over 36 policemen injured. And all the police do, is toss tear gas and fire rubber bullets. The French think their society has not accepted and integrated these people. I think if they study their society, they will find that those who really wanted to be integrated have managed to find decent jobs. I would not be surprised if that number of decent to high job holders is rather high. 60% of these people ARE employed in some gainful manner, DO contribute to society, and WANT to contribute to society. > So who pays their room and board? The French taxpayer, via the welfare > system. Civilization is a fragile collaborative effort. History is full of civilizations that failed for various reasons, from climatic change to the loss of will to resist the Vandals and Visigoths. Time to say that those who do not want to live in civilization have a free ticket out of civilization. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 7 17:53:45 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Nov 7 17:53:52 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State In-Reply-To: <20051107211934.69496.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051108005345.86038.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > We Americans saw the moral bankruptcy of welfare recipients in New = > Orleans. The French now experience it in Paris! Both French speaking areas rich in unemployment, discrimination, and blacks. > These rioters work no day jobs; by > their own admission they sleep all day and riot at night! Over 1400 automobiles torched including several busses. Over 36 policemen injured. And all the police do, is toss tear gas and fire rubber bullets. The French think their society has not accepted and integrated these people. I think if they study their society, they will find that those who really wanted to be integrated INTEGRATED..! I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD..! IT IS LIKE INTERDEPENDENT..! I DON'T LIKE THE WORD: INTERDEPENDENT..! INTEGRATED AND INTERDEPENDENT ARE NOT = TO THE WORDS: INDEPENDENT, AND INDEPENDENCE..! FUCK INTEGRATION..! AND FUCK INTERDEPENDENCE..! LET INDEPENDENCE, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE, RING EQUAL FOR ALL, FOR EVERYONE, FOREVER..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051107/dd79ba36/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Nov 7 20:26:09 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Nov 7 20:26:12 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare In-Reply-To: <20051108005345.86038.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 07, 2005 04:53:45 PM Message-ID: <20051108032609.73089.qmail@mall-net.com> > The French think their society has not accepted and integrated > these people. I think if they study their society, they will find that > those who really wanted to be integrated > INTEGRATED..! > I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD..! > > IT IS LIKE INTERDEPENDENT..! > I DON'T LIKE THE WORD: INTERDEPENDENT..! Do you want to dig your own oil, refine it, dig your own iron ore, refine that, cast your own engine... ah, tools! Do you want to make your own tools so that you can make the tools to make the tools with to make your own oil drill, casting shop, etc.? Do you want to grow your own food so that you can live to make the tools to make the tools to make your own agricultural tools? > INTEGRATED AND INTERDEPENDENT ARE > NOT = TO THE WORDS: INDEPENDENT, AND > INDEPENDENCE..! Ah, I forgot knowledge. Unless you want to re-cap the development of civilization from scratch... books! Do you want to spend all your time reading books to learn how to re-create civilization from scratch? This could take a few life-times... Maybe a few million life times! > FUCK INTEGRATION..! > AND FUCK INTERDEPENDENCE..! Enjoy the futility of trying to melt iron by waving palm leaves at your fire. > LET INDEPENDENCE, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE, RING EQUAL > FOR ALL, FOR EVERYONE, FOREVER..! Independence is having the ability to trade your abilities and production for the abilities and production of your peers. It is being esteemed in your trade as a peer, and thus earn a decent income, that you do not have to do a half-assed job at everything you do just to maybe get a few hours a week to do the things that you do best. I generate my own electricity. I have to because the power lines do not go this far. For this, I have three generators and some solar panels. I lost a generator early this month. I lost another generator before, and the third one I was not able to repair last year. I was, after several days, able to repair one of them thanks to some of the members of this list and other friends in other parts of the country who know more than I do about generators. Thankyou, Internet!!! I am now contemplating what to do about having the rotor field coil re-wound on one of the other generators. It could save me over a thousand dollars in fuel because that is a smaller generator, drawing less fuel. Even though I am independent of the power grid, you can see that I am highly dependent upon civilization. Worse, most of my time is spent screwing around trying to get things like these generators working. This detracts immensely from other, more productive work! Unless you wish to live like a jungle bunny in Sumatra or the depths of the Amazon, you need civilization. Indeed, the life span of those who are jungle bunnies is around 25 - 30 years on average. We do twice that in civilization. And with electricity, air conditioning, central heating, hot water, the internet, etc. live much, much, MUCH more comfortable lives!!! Civilization isn't just the best deal in town, it IS the WHOLE TOWN! --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 7 20:50:56 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 7 20:51:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State In-Reply-To: <20051107211934.69496.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <000501c5e417$a01cf440$d0c5bc41@mikey> > Time to say that those who do not want to live in civilization > have a free ticket out of civilization. I agree. But a rocket ship to the Moon costs $millions, maybe $billions! But a 7.62x39mm cartridge costs thirty cents. Shall we sink to the Communist Chinese methodology? Maybe a one-way ticket to Antarctica? Suggestions? -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 7 21:01:30 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 7 21:01:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A REAL issue! Message-ID: <000601c5e419$1a84bff0$d0c5bc41@mikey> All of our problems, injustices, and conspiracies pale into insignificance upon reading this! With REAL problems like this in the world, why waste our time debating Freemasonry, the Rothschilds, the Welfare State, the CIA, or other conspiracies? We have a *truly* important issue here! -Mike _The Times_, London, November 08, 2005 Two Jags set millionaires at war By Joanna Bale One is a veteran of film and track, the other an imposter. The heated battle over a chassis number WHEN two fabulously wealthy men go head to head in a legal battle over a fast, expensive car, it is sure to be a high-octane affair. With a certain amount of pride and a vast amount of money at stake, Allen Lloyd, who made a ?32 million fortune from the Lloyds pharmacy empire, is locked in a costly four-year feud with Stefan Svenby, a multimillionaire Swedish businessman, after discovering that their 1959 Lister Jaguar sports cars bear the same chassis number. Whoever wins will be able to claim that his car starred in the 1961 motor-racing film The Green Helmet and raced at Le Mans in 1963. The loser?s car will be branded an impostor. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1862211,00.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 7 22:57:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 7 22:58:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Without motion is there time? Message-ID: <000a01c5e429$5d49d900$d0c5bc41@mikey> > Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:55:59 -0000 > From: "James - Landro Is The Main Character In my Book" > Subject: Without motion is there time? > E=MV^2 > E/M=V^2 > E/M=(D/T)^2 > Square root(E/M)=D/T > D/(Square root(E/M))=T > Time = Distance Divided by the square root of Energy divided by Mass. This leads me to believe that without motion there > is no time. Is my math wrong or have I overlooked something? Close, but no cigar. Velocity is not S/T, but rather dS/dT (actually curl S/curl T), making this a differential equation. But you're getting close, and are on the right path. You see, God wears no wristwatch! Try removing the time variable from the Gibbs' free energy equation, and see what you get. -MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051107/1edb0ff9/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Nov 7 23:28:30 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Nov 7 23:28:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State In-Reply-To: <000501c5e417$a01cf440$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 07, 2005 10:50:56 PM Message-ID: <20051108062830.76607.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Time to say that those who do not want to live in civilization > > have a free ticket out of civilization. > > I agree. But a rocket ship to the Moon costs $millions, maybe $billions! > > But a 7.62x39mm cartridge costs thirty cents. Shall we sink to the > Communist Chinese methodology? > > Maybe a one-way ticket to Antarctica? > > Suggestions? You get to choose your destination. Whether they accept you is not our problem. For some, the kleptocratic government of Liberia might be appropriate. Others may chose more "romantic" regions, like the pirates of Somalia, the scammers of Nigeria (who need English teachers), or perhaps the wilds of Antarctica, etc. It matters not. They don't want to cooperate with civilization, Out they GO! (I think the pirates of Somalia particularly stupid for using inflatable water craft a hundred miles from shore. But then, piratery is generally stupid to begin with in this day and age. Probably was in any day and age; though the original pirates, or privateers as they were called, were a means of waging unofficial war with volunteers, and hence had some patriotic overtones. By the way, Buccaneer actually refers to barbecuer eating fire-roasted meat without formalities of a dining table, not a per-ear bounty on the enemy.) This penalty of involuntary deportation should be reserved for those who are violently opposed to civilization as we know it, demonstrated by committing crimes against civilization in general. It should not apply to those who commit lesser crimes, such as robbery, looting, murdering a few people, etc. In other words, the penalty should NOT be invoked not for crimes for cause (retaliatory crimes) against specific individuals, such as murdering a specific person or torching a specific person's automobile or home in retaliation; but for crimes without cause such as the indiscriminate use of Molotov cocktails in a group, indiscriminate torching multiple vehicles or dwellings, shooting at police, indiscriminate sniping, creating and selling carcinogenic cigarettes, unworkable medications like Voixx, etc. etc. (Applicability to some ultra violent video games teaching others to riot might be questionable, subject to Supreme Court interpretation.) Those convicted of the lesser crimes (e.g. murder) should not be deported till their lesser crime penalty has been served, so they would not use the crime against civilization as a defense against imprisonment or execution. There is, of course, the matter of how one implements such a penalty. It is, after all, a little hard to capture people who are acting en-mass using Molotov cocktails. In cases such as those occurring in France and now spreading to Belgium and Germany; the local powers might declare an area eligible for immediate exit, offering civil means to facilitate voluntary exits during the day. Having said that and provided the facilities for orderly voluntary exit, they may then state that those continuing to riot will be shot at using deadly response. (After all, they do have a choice!) Those captured alive will be summarily deported if there is no reason to hold them for trial for lesser crimes before being deported. After some period of time, say five years for voluntary departures or ten or twenty years for involuntary departures, the survivors wishing to return to civilization might be required to show how they improved themselves, the area they lived in, etc. in order to prove that they are capable of living in civilization. However, citizenship would be lost on involuntary exit, never to be returned. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 8 13:32:37 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:33:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare State In-Reply-To: <20051108062830.76607.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051108203237.83797.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: This penalty of involuntary deportation SPEAKING OF DEPORTATION; WHY CAN'T WE ALL DEPORT ALL OF THE USELESS CHEAP SHODDY SHITTY CHINESE CRAPPUNIST COMMUNIST GARBAGE AND JUNK, BACK TO THAT F---ING TURD WORLD COUNTRY???? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051108/47f09a3b/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Nov 8 16:10:55 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Nov 8 16:11:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare In-Reply-To: <20051108203237.83797.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 08, 2005 12:32:37 PM Message-ID: <20051108231055.60359.qmail@mall-net.com> From deportation to energy... as Mad Scientists, the quest for new ideas is OUR job! > This penalty of involuntary deportation > > SPEAKING OF DEPORTATION; WHY CAN'T WE > ALL DEPORT ALL OF THE USELESS CHEAP > SHODDY SHITTY CHINESE CRAPPUNIST > COMMUNIST GARBAGE AND JUNK, BACK TO > THAT F---ING TURD WORLD COUNTRY???? Well, if there's any kind of warranty, we do. And in a moment, another idea for doing that. But... we keep buying more because it's cheaper than buying the real thing. I was looking at generators today. 2.5kw, Onan Microlite, top of the line, $2,200 cheapest price. Usable life span, some 500 - 1000 hours. $2.20 - $4.40 per hour, plus another $0.60 - $1.20 per hour fuel costs, for a total cost of up to $5 per hour, or very roughly $2.50 per kilo-watt hour under fair, but not peak use. Some chino-crap, $500, guaranteed for 1,000 hours. That's 0.50 per hour, up to $1.70 per hour, or roughly $0.85 per kilo-what hour. Eighty Five Cents! And maybe a lot less, if it lasts. And if it doesn't, it's still cheaper to throw out the old and buy another one for one quarter the price!!! Which can I afford??? I can buy TWO Chino-craps and STILL save 50% !!! Which can I afford??? The Risk: Of course, the money sent to China will probably return as radioactive nuclear fallout, lead bullets, and who knows what else if we miscalculate on this. But if we don't, then China might turn free as the people demand more freedoms to go with their prosperity; because prosperity does not mean any damned thing if you can't DO anything with it. Which is what we hope the average Chinese comes to realize. Yes, it's a gamble. I just don't have the money to buy US. Beating Them: How do we compete??? Well, generators are old technology. We need new technology, fuel cells, solar cells, etc. Yep, obsolete THEM! My bet, if I had $2,200 to spend, is that if I spend the $2,200 on new-technology solar cells and a charge pump type charge controller for pumping up voltage during cloudy days, I can get more energy for less than buying an old-technology generator. And use an old hulking, fuel hungry generator for high peak demand things such as the washing machine, as I do anyway. But the investment is up front, and break-even is two years away. It's not something I can afford right now, when other needs are more pressing. But that is the point, we CAN abandon non-military old technology manufacturing to other countries _IF_ we keep inventing new and better technology which obsoletes the old technology. And that, my friends, is the job of the Mad Scientist! Yes, Our Job! Now here's a question for you bright guys and gals out there. Batteries work by ion flow. Some folks have used the ions in the wind to charge batteries. But I have better... I have a 4,000 - 9,000 BTU hot propane flame that produces ions in the process of burning. How can I take my propane furnace and harness the ions flowing in the flame? How can I do this economically? Having to put in some energy to pump the charges, etc. is ok; but how can I get more out of that flame besides heat? Can I simply stick some kind of high temperature grid into the flame??? It's in the details, I know. So someone, tell me the details! --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 8 17:03:31 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:03:36 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of the failing of the Welfare In-Reply-To: <20051108231055.60359.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051109000331.68897.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Now here's a question for you bright guys and gals out there. Batteries work by ion flow. Some folks have used the ions in the wind to charge batteries. But I have better... I have a 4,000 - 9,000 BTU hot propane flame that produces ions in the process of burning. How can I take my propane furnace and harness the ions flowing in the flame? How can I do this economically? Having to put in some energy to pump the charges, etc. is ok; but how can I get more out of that flame besides heat? Can I simply stick some kind of high temperature grid into the flame??? It's in the details, I know. So someone, tell me the details! YES; JUST LIKE A THERMOCOUPLE..! A METAL PLATE WITH ENOUGH EVENLY SPACED HOLES IN IT, SO THAT IT STILL PASSES THE HEAT EFFECTIVELY. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA AS TO WHAT METAL ALLOY WOULD BE THE BEST OF THE BEST TO USE THOUGH; AND YES; A HIGH TEMPERATURE GRID WOULD POSSIBLY DO SOME GOOD, BUT YOU NEED THE MOST SURFACE AREA THAT YOU CAN GET..! COPPER WIRE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE FUSED TO GALVANIZED STEEL.... GOTTA GO FOR NOW. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051108/e40afd78/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Nov 8 21:43:03 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Nov 8 21:43:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Gravity and Time Travel Message-ID: <20051109044303.62295.qmail@mall-net.com> This guy is into time travel research, as mentioned in the news recently. Says some things do not violate causality. Also research on gravity of light beams, etc. Yes, energy can create gravity according to Einstein. http://www.phys.uconn.edu/faculty/mallett.html But... his time travel is only information going forward. So you can't make devanced bets on technology stocks, and reap rewards today. -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Nov 9 11:04:05 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Wed Nov 9 11:04:20 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... Message-ID: In a message dated 11/6/2005 3:47:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: Been arrested? NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. Brings back memories Clyde. Years ago when I lived in Napa Cal. I was awoken one night by a very frightened 3 year old trying to tell me there was a man in the refrigerator . Sure enough, the swearing coming out of our ice box was loud enough to wake everyone in the house. For weeks some jerk drove people for miles around nuts with the Liner or Kicker attached to his cb radio. My neighbor swore he could pick up the signals sent with the fillings in his teeth. The FCC sent a few people out to try to find the joker, but, they were half hearted about it. Finally we got relief. The idiot went too low on the band he was using and began to mess with the military. Had the crackpot just been messing around once in a while it would not have been too bad, sure we had to get a filter for the T.V. , and he only came in over the fridge when the guy was driving by the house , he had one in his car and house. Lucky for him the FCC got to him before the neighbors did. He was relentless, the elderly could not afford to buy filters, or did not know they Could buy them. Us young folk could not use OUR radios, I think we would have hung the son of a gun had we caught him first. So, now you got me curious, why did the FCC think they had the right to close you down? As I look back through the years, the whole incident seems kind of funny now. Those cb's were so much fun.We used them the same way we use cell phones today. I spent a couple of years trying to get my dad to get a Ham license so we could talk coast to coast but Dad didn't want to go that way for some reason. REGARDS VESTA The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051109/4230856d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 9 15:20:12 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 9 15:21:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Gravity and Time Travel In-Reply-To: <20051109044303.62295.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051109222013.77421.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: This guy is into time travel research, as mentioned in the news recently. Says some things do not violate causality. Also research on gravity of light beams, etc. Yes, energy can create gravity according to Einstein. 1. TULSA OKLAHOMA IS A DARK ENERGY-GRAVITY WELL THAT SUCKS THE SOULS OUT OF ITS IN / EN - TRAP-MENTAL - HABITANTS. 2. TULSA OKLAHOMA IS A DARK ENERGY PRISON. 3. TULSA IS AN INSANE ASYLUM; (IT TRANSFORMS GOOD PEOPLE INTO DAMNED PEOPLE;) WHY WAS THE SONG; TULSA TIME WRITTEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? 4. TULSA IS A SHORT, UNLIT ROAD, TO NOWHERE. 5. FUCK TULSA..! -------------------------------------------------------------------- TULSA TIME FROM MY VANTAGE POINT: THIS ENDLESS, EVERLASTING, INSANE, SPIN AROUND IN VERTIGO TILL YOU DIE, FOREVER HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, INDUSTRIALIZED SHITHOLE - SLUMHOLE - WASTELAND OF BROKEN DREAMS AND BROKEN GOALS: TULSA OKLAHOMA. I'M JUST AS SICK OF TULSA AS EVERYONE ELSE IS; IT'S JUST THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE ENTIRELY UNAWARE THAT THEY ARE SICK OF THIS FUCKING GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED FOREVER HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, INDUSTRIALIZED SHITHOLE - SLUMHOLE - WASTELAND OF ENVIRON-MENTAL (EN)-PRISON-MENTAL HELL ON EARTH: TULSA OKLAHOMA. THE AIR POLLUTION IS SO GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED OUT OF HAND, WITH FAR TOO MUCH CHEMICAL TOXICITY IN THE ATMOSPHERE, AND WITH FAR TOO MUCH ELECTROMAGNETIC, ELECTROSTATIC, ELECTROPHOTONIC, AND ACOUSTIC AND WATER POLLUTION..! http://www.phys.uconn.edu/faculty/mallett.html But... his time travel is only information going forward. So you can't make devanced bets on technology stocks, and reap rewards today. YEP; THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE; AT LEAST FOR MERE MORTALS IT IS..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051109/67aaf817/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 9 15:27:23 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 9 15:27:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051109222724.30384.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/6/2005 3:47:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: Been arrested? NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. So, now you got me curious, why did the FCC think they had the right to close you down? BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW. GOTTA GO. LATER; CLYDE REGARDS VESTA --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051109/54c0be09/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Nov 9 16:19:30 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Nov 9 16:19:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051109222724.30384.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 09, 2005 02:27:23 PM Message-ID: <20051109231930.28734.qmail@mall-net.com> > NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID > ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. > I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. > > So, now you got me curious, why did the FCC think they had the right to close you down? > > BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! Is that specifically what they said, or what you surmise? > I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; > I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; > AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER > PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW. Does that mean you are still broadcasting??? And if so, is it within FCC limits? Are you using the power company as your distribution method, the way some do? More details would be interesting. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Nov 9 17:46:55 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Wed Nov 9 17:47:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Did Government lie, no way, Dah Message-ID: <19a.40d6a244.30a3f27f@aol.com> _Did U.S. government lie about deadly virus?_ (http://www.world-science.net/othernews/051109_flufrm.htm) The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051109/0979cc87/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Nov 10 09:12:17 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 10 09:12:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... Message-ID: <141.51e477ed.30a4cb61@aol.com> In a message dated 11/9/2005 5:28:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW Clyde, what is offensive to one person may not be offensive to another. We had that Howard Stern fella and we survived the Anna Nichole tv program. A year or so ago a real small station 10 mile receiving area set up in town. Lots of hoopla, excitement, all us AM junkies could not wait for it to start up. To my shame I only listened a few times, probably should go see if it is still on the air. I stopped listening because the format was not what I had hoped for. I had hoped for a station that would make me laugh, along the lines of satire in every day life here in our area. I'm not big on poetry the reading kind that is, so by the 3 time or so that I tuned in to hear an hour of Lesbians reading their own depressing works, I tuned out. Really too bad, we need an up beat station for the middle aged and up population. The ideas are endless, for people with sight problems there could be air time set aside for someone to read from both local papers, their reporting on the same subject often is so different it makes one wonder if this is indeed the same story. Then throw in a couple of --Good Cop-Bad Cop folks to examine the story, here in a small town that would be not only educational but in some cases hilarious. You know Clyde, you seem to have access to a very powerful tool to bring a large segment of people some fresh air and cheer into their lives. If only on the air one hour a day and by sticking to local news, hundreds of shut ins would be ever so great full. Your talking clock idea is at this time at a standstill. This idea of helping the blind know what is really happening around them would benefit far more people then an expensive time piece and much more in value to them. A radio station for the blind, about the blind, with very careful programing, you would get advertising revenue up the ying-yang. You Clyde would be their eyes on things that are life and death to them. Leave out all politics, and religion, just be their guide to what is going on that affects them and their daily lives.If I were blind, I would love to have someone read to me and describe what is going on in the daily comics, the latest style in fashion, the sports page. Give it a thought Clyde, channel your time and energy into something that will be a sliver of light for hundreds of people who live in the dark. I'm thinking The Loften Report sounds dignified, responsible, and you could most likely get a government grant to cover start up expenses. It will take a couple of years to get all your shit in one basket, I'm sure the members of Mad Science would have fun being advisors to the many pitfalls of this operation. Being part of a team that would enjoy a collective experiment into benefiting others, that is priceless. Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051110/34710bbd/attachment-0001.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Nov 10 11:56:57 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Nov 10 11:57:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Quantifying the subjective nature of Time Message-ID: <004a01c5e628$86ad1ea0$d0c5bc41@mikey> >From another list, and McG's employer is a major aerospace firm. He knows his math! -MB Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:01:58 -0800 From: "McGalliard, Frederick B" Subject: RE: Without motion is there time? > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Riversong [mailto:rivedu@...] ... > One fascination for me is the phenomenon of subjectivity > relative to time. Of course this can't be mathematically > quantified. But i have seen people rise to a territory above > enthusiasm and become "loose" in time, meaning that they > experience a wide range of moments simultaneously. This > accounts for occasional manifestations of prophetic ability. > > Conversely, when down in a state near apathy, motion and > momentary experience are constricted. In other words, > everything seems to take forever even though little is really > happening. I will try to quantify it for you (Duration)=N(margaritas)*Q(quality of the sunset)/(Temperature-80F) From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Nov 10 14:09:51 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Nov 10 14:10:51 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHY POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE. AND; WHY POLITICS FUCKS SCIENCE. Message-ID: <20051110210951.46716.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> YAHOO SEARCH ENGINE TOPICS: 1. WHY POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE. 2. WHY POLITICS FUCKS SCIENCE. THE FOLLOWING TWO WEBLINKS ARE THE BEST TWO THAT I COULD FIND, DURING MY YAHOO SEARCH: http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/12/rent-wars-its-sex-stupid.html http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/11/two-americas-past-present-and-future.html GOTTA GO FOR NOW; THE LIBRARY COMPUTER TIME IS SHORT. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051110/ef7c48b6/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 22:24:23 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 11 22:24:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051109231930.28734.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051112052423.25502.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > NO; BUT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE ENGINEERS OF THE F.C.C. PAID > ME A VISIT, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. > I COMPLIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN MY TRANSMITTER. > > So, now you got me curious, why did the FCC think they had the right to close you down? > > BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! Is that specifically what they said, or what you surmise? THE INITIAL COMPLAINT WAS BECAUSE OF FEAR IN THE MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THEIR GARGANTUAN LOBBY AGAINST THE MICRO RADIO MOVEMENT; AND THEIR FEAR OF POTENTIAL CHALLENGE FROM THE MICRO RADIO MOVEMENT AGAINST THEM. > I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; > I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; > AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER > PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW. Does that mean you are still broadcasting??? RIGHT NOW I AM. And if so, is it within FCC limits? DOES THE WEBLINK BELOW ANSWER THE QUESTION? : http://www.nationalassociationofmicrobroadcasters.com/contee.htm Are you using the power company as your distribution method, the way some do? NO. THE CARRIER CURRENT APPROACH; IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ONLY WORKS FOR THE A.M. BROADCAST BAND, AND NOT FOR THE F.M. BROADCAST BAND, DUE TO THE F.M. BROADCAST BAND BEING TOO HIGH UP IN THE SPECTRUM FOR POWERLINE TRANSMISSION TO HAVE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE COVERAGE AREA. More details would be interesting. OK. I'M PRETTY TIRED RIGHT NOW; AND THIS (BROKEN HOME-) 'HOME' COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED INTO; AND SO I'M SICK OF A LOT OF GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED SHIT FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND SICK OF THEIR INTRUSION INTO MY LIFE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051111/deb6368f/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 22:48:05 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 11 22:48:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHY POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE. AND; WHY POLITICS FUCKS SCIENCE. In-Reply-To: <20051110210951.46716.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051112054805.95315.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> MY POSTING, THIS EVENING, TO THE SCIENCEPOLITICS.BLOGSPOT.COM WEBSITE: clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote: In the country would be a more ideal place to live, than where I am currently forced to have to reside. Problem is; How does one go about acquiring a decent, small plot of land, off of the barbed wire fenced sided paved county / country road? Does one just cut a hole in the fenceline and bulldoze a road, and then have it graveled and/or paved, without notifying anyone? Why do I ask such an outrageous question? Because each and every one of us are not taught such knowledge in the public educational shytstem..! And I am just just absolutely sick of the industrialized forever go nowhere shithole slumburb of where I am currently forced to have to reside..! Can anyone offer any good, and absolute perfect suggestions; because I am sick of this forever go nowhere, overtaxed and overzoned industrialized shithole slumburbia district of Alsuma Union Tulsa..! 1. Overtaxation without representation..! 2. Overzonation without representation..! And; 3. A government that is out of control..! Clyde Lofton Tulsa, Oklahoma 10:01 PM http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/12/rent-wars-its-sex-stupid.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051111/a03528c5/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 23:54:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 11 23:54:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <141.51e477ed.30a4cb61@aol.com> Message-ID: <20051112065419.58539.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/9/2005 5:28:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW Clyde, what is offensive to one person may not be offensive to another. YEAH; I'VE FIGURED THAT OUT..! IT'S A LIBERAL VS. CONSERVATIVE THING, AND CAN ALSO BE VISE VERSA EQUALLY AS WELL..! We had that Howard Stern fella and we survived the Anna Nichole tv program. YEAH; HOWARD STERN CAN BE PRETTY OFFENSIVE TO THE CONSERVATIVES; TO THE INDEPENDENTS; TO THE LIBERTARIANS, AND TO OTHERS WHO AREN'T LIBERALS..! I'M INDEPENDENT; AND SO SOME OF HOWARD STERN'S STUFF IS OFFENSIVE TO ME. A year or so ago a real small station 10 mile receiving area set up in town. Lots of hoopla, excitement, all us AM junkies could not wait for it to start up. To my shame I only listened a few times, probably should go see if it is still on the air. OK. I stopped listening because the format was not what I had hoped for. I had hoped for a station that would make me laugh, along the lines of satire in every day life here in our area. I'm not big on poetry the reading kind that is, so by the 3rd time or so that I tuned in to hear an hour of Lesbians reading their own depressing works, I tuned out. YEAH; POETRY READING SOUNDS BORING TO ME TOO. AT THIS MOMENT I HAVE AIRING: GOD'S POLITICS: WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT. DISCUSSION OF WHY THERE IS SUCH BAD IMMORALITY IN MODERN AMERICA ('AMERIKA'), AND OF WHY ESOTERIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES ARE NOT MASS PRODUCTION ITEMS; AND THE HUMAN DRUG ADDICTION TO PETROLEUM; A FITTING TITLE FOR MOST ALL OF US EQUALLY: PETROHOLICS..! FITTING FOR BOTH WE THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE POLITICIANS ALIKE..! Really too bad, we need an up beat station for the middle aged and up population. The ideas are endless, for people with sight problems there could be air time set aside for someone to read from both local papers, their reporting on the same subject often is so different it makes one wonder if this is indeed the same story. Then throw in a couple of --Good Cop-Bad Cop folks to examine the story, here in a small town that would be not only educational but in some cases hilarious. YEAH. I ALSO PURCHASED A GEORGE CARLIN DOUBLE C.D. SET; TITLED: BRAIN DROPPINGS. I'M HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS THOUGH, ABOUT AIRING THE GEORGE CARLIN C.D.'S; DUE TO THE HIGHLY EXPLICIT NATURE OF THEIR CONTENT; AIRING THOSE COULD GET ME INTO A LOT OF TROUBLE, BECAUSE OF THEIR OFFENSIVE NATURE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HIGHLY INTELLECTUALLY STIMULATING..! You know Clyde, you seem to have access to a very powerful tool to bring a large segment of people some fresh air and cheer into their lives. If only on the air one hour a day and by sticking to local news, hundreds of shut ins would be ever so greatful. YEAH; THE PROGRAMMING THAT I'VE GOT GOING RIGHT NOW WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE..! Your talking clock idea is at this time at a standstill. I'M SORT OF AT A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. I ENTERED THE EMHART / N.A.S.A. DESIGN THE FUTURE AND WIN CONTEST, WITH MY G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT IDEA TWO WEEKS AGO; AND AM NOW WAITING TO HEAR THE RESULTS OF THE CONTEST. I THINK THE DEADLINE TO ENTER THE CONTEST WAS THIS WEEK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THE CONTEST WINNER WILL BE ANNOUNCED. This idea of helping the blind know what is really happening around them would benefit far more people then an expensive time piece and much more in value to them. YEAH; THE IDEA IS MAINLY USING IT IN LOW POWER RADIO BROADCASTING SERVICES; THOUGH THERE ARE MANY OTHER SERVICES THAT IT WOULD WORK WELL FOR ALSO..! A radio station for the blind, about the blind, with very careful programing, you would get advertising revenue up the ying-yang. YEAH; SIMILAR TO WHAT W.W.V. DOES BETWEEN THE MINUTE ANNOUNCEMENTS; WHEN THE COAST GUARD GIVES WEATHER AND SOLAR / TERRESTRIAL INFORMATION REPORTS. You Clyde would be their eyes on things that are life and death to them. Leave out all politics, and religion, YES! just be their guide to what is going on that effects them, and their daily lives. If I were blind, I would love to have someone read to me and describe what is going on in the daily comics, the latest style in fashion, the sports page. YES. Give it a thought Clyde. Channel your time and energy into something that will be a sliver of light for hundreds of people who live in the dark. I'M TRYING. I'VE DONE DAMAGE IN THE PAST; BUT IT IS MY WILL TO DO GOOD, AND NOT EVIL..! I'm thinking The Lofton Report sounds dignified, responsible, and you could most likely get a government grant to cover start up expenses. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A LOFTON REPORT. I WANT IT TO BE AS ANTI-MAINSTREAM-MEDIA-CRAP, AS POSSIBLE. THAT MEANS NO MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS TYPE OF REPORTINGS, BECAUSE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT; PARTICULARLY TELEVISION NEWS PROPAGANDA; THOUGH MAINSTREAM RADIO HAS A LOT OF BULLSHIT ON IT AS WELL..! It will take a couple of years to get all your shit in one basket, I'm sure the members of Mad Science would have fun being advisors to the many pitfalls of this operation. Being part of a team that would enjoy a collective experiment into benefiting others, that is priceless. RIGHT ON..! THAT WOULD BE COOL. IF FELLOW MAD SCIENTISTS ARE INTERESTED ENOUGH IN DOING THEIR OWN INDY MEDIA OPERATIONS AS WELL; I WOULD WELCOME THAT - TO START A NEW TYPE OF INDUSTRY IN A SENSE. Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. SINCERELY, CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051111/eafd8292/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Nov 11 23:56:48 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Nov 11 23:57:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051112052423.25502.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 11, 2005 09:24:23 PM Message-ID: <20051112065648.67728.qmail@mall-net.com> > > --===============2060764285== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-598551527-1131773063=:17320" > > BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! > > Is that specifically what they said, or what you surmise? > > THE INITIAL COMPLAINT WAS BECAUSE OF FEAR IN THE > MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THEIR GARGANTUAN > LOBBY AGAINST THE MICRO RADIO MOVEMENT; AND THEIR > FEAR OF POTENTIAL CHALLENGE FROM THE MICRO RADIO > MOVEMENT AGAINST THEM. You are evading the question. > > I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; > > I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; > > AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER > > PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW. > > Does that mean you are still broadcasting??? > > RIGHT NOW I AM. > > And if so, is it within FCC limits? > > DOES THE WEBLINK BELOW ANSWER THE QUESTION? : > > http://www.nationalassociationofmicrobroadcasters.com/contee.htm Once again, you are not answering a direct question. What one official says is not relevant. The question is whether the FCC as a unified entity accepts that you are conforming to their requirements regarding power, range, content, etc. That's all. (The web page is also confusing.) You as an individual do not have the resources to fight them in court, the only place where they can be fought. Before you pick a fight, have ENOUGH allies behind you who are willing to support you, fund your defense, etc. Have lawyers who believe IN THE CAUSE ready. Your typical lawyer will defend YOU, try to show you were IN COMPLIANCE, or innocent due to extenuating circumstances. In a principle case, you don't care about whether you are in compliance, you are trying to show contradictions which show the FCC is overreaching in their regulations. Because your average lawyer is a weasel, he does not want a principle case, he wants a compliance case, one he can plead you not guilty due to insanity or whatever. Furthermore, I would have people in your community lined up (or letters from them) showing that they WANT your broadcasts. IN fact, the best tag line might be "I am guilty of wanting to hear Clyde's broadcasts." This will help more with a principle case than a compliance case. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 12 10:33:39 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 12 10:33:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED: WHY POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE. AND; WHY POLITICS FUCKS SCIENCE. In-Reply-To: <20051112054805.95315.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051112173339.12604.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: In the country would be a more ideal place to live, than where I am currently forced to have to reside. Problem is; How does one go about acquiring a decent, small plot of land, off of the barbed wire fenced sided paved county / country road? Does one just cut a hole in the fenceline and bulldoze a road, and then have it graveled and/or paved, without notifying anyone? Why do I ask such an outrageous question? Because each and every one of us are not taught such knowledge in the public educational shytstem..! And I am just absolutely sick of the industrialized forever go nowhere shithole slumburb of where I am currently forced to have to reside..! Can anyone offer any good, and absolute perfect suggestions; because I am sick of this forever go nowhere, overtaxed and overzoned industrialized shithole slumburbia district of Alsuma Union Tulsa..! 1. Overtaxation without representation..! 2. Overzonation without representation..! And; 3. A government that is out of control..! Clyde Lofton Tulsa, Oklahoma 10:01 PM http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/12/rent-wars-its-sex-stupid.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mad-Scientists mailing list: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051112/af407cc1/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 12 11:04:48 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Nov 12 11:05:02 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051112065648.67728.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051112180448.24305.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > --===============2060764285== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-598551527-1131773063=:17320" I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT ALL OF THE ABOVE COMPUTER TYPING IS? : CONTENT-TYPE: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="0.... ETC....???? I WAS OPERATING ON THE HOMECOMPUTER LAST NIGHT, AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN HACKED INTO BY THE NEIGHBORS, ETC.... JUST WONDERING IF SPYWARE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALL OF THAT COMPUTER TYPING SHIT? > > BECAUSE I AIRED FAR TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE SHIT..! > > Is that specifically what they said, or what you surmise? > > THE INITIAL COMPLAINT WAS BECAUSE OF FEAR IN THE > MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THEIR GARGANTUAN > LOBBY AGAINST THE MICRO RADIO MOVEMENT; AND THEIR > FEAR OF POTENTIAL CHALLENGE FROM THE MICRO RADIO > MOVEMENT AGAINST THEM. You are evading the question. I DON'T THINK I AM EVADING THE QUESTION. THE AIRWAVES BELONG TO THE PUBLIC; IN OTHER WORDS: WE THE PEOPLE. UNFORTUANTELY; WE THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SO DUMBED DOWN BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA INTRAFUCKTURE, THAT THE MAJORITY OF US ARE BLIND AND/OR UNAWARE THAT WE OURSELVES, OWN THE BROADCAST AIRWAVES; AND NOT THE KOMMUNIST AND FASCIST POOPAGANDA CORPORATIONS..! > > I'VE EASED DOWN QUITE A BIT NOW THOUGH; > > I'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO ENTIRE AUTOMATION; > > AND COUNTER PROPAGANDA MUSIC AND COUNTER > > PROPAGANDA TALK PROGRAMMING NOW. > > Does that mean you are still broadcasting??? > > RIGHT NOW I AM. > > And if so, is it within FCC limits? > > DOES THE WEBLINK BELOW ANSWER THE QUESTION? : > > http://www.nationalassociationofmicrobroadcasters.com/contee.htm Once again, you are not answering a direct question. What one official says is not relevant. The question is whether the FCC as a unified entity accepts that you are conforming to their requirements regarding power, range, content, etc. That's all. WELL; I DO NEED HELP WITH SOME OF MY ENGINEERING, AND ALSO MONEY FINANCIAL MATTERS AS WELL..! (The web page is also confusing.) YES; THE WORDINGS IN THAT LETTER OF REPLY, ARE CONFUSING. THE GARGANTUAN CORPORATIONS WITH THE LAW BOOKS OF THE GOVERNMENT WEAVE ALL SORTS OF COMPLEX WORDINGS; FOR DELIBERATE CONFUSION OF OTHERS. WHAT I TAKE FROM IT THOUGH; IS THE WORD: INTRA, VS. THE WORD INTER: INTER-STATE COMMERCE, VS. INTRA-STATE COMMERCE, AND VISE VERSA; AND THEIR RELATIONS TO REGULATIONS. You as an individual do not have the resources to fight them in court, the only place where they can be fought. Before you pick a fight, have ENOUGH allies behind you who are willing to support you, fund your defense, etc. YEAH; OK. Have lawyers who believe IN THE CAUSE ready. Your typical lawyer will defend YOU, try to show you were IN COMPLIANCE, or innocent due to extenuating circumstances. INNOCENT, DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL, IS 100% CORRECT..! In a principle case, you don't care about whether you are in compliance, you are trying to show contradictions which show the FCC is overreaching in their regulations. Because your average lawyer is a weasel, he does not want a principle case, he wants a compliance case, one he can plead you not guilty due to insanity or whatever. OK.? THE NEIGHBORS HAVE DRIVEN ME INSANE..! NOT TO MENTION FAMILY AND FAMILY MATTERS AS WELL..! Furthermore, I would have people in your community lined up (or letters from them) showing that they WANT your broadcasts. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE FOR ME IN MY CASE, SINCE I AM SUCH AN ISOLATIONIST. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PERFECT LOW POWER BROADCAST PUBLIC SERVICE; AND NOT A HELL RAISER 'SERVICE' LIKE I HAVE DONE; AND AS I AM CURRENTLY DOING NOW; WITH THE COUNTER PROPAGANDA RADIO PROGRAMMING. IN fact, the best tag line might be "I am guilty of wanting to hear Clyde's broadcasts." This will help more with a principle case than a compliance case. OK; I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT PASSING DOOR TO DOOR PRINTED QUESTION SHEETS, REGARDING ISSUES THAT FOLKS REALLY WANT TO LISTEN TO..! SURVEYING THE PUBLIC IN THAT WAY. THE MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA OFFENDS SO MANY PEOPLE AS IT ALREADY IS; WHAT I HAVE DONE IS VERY VERY SMALL RELATIVE TO THE LARGE..! LIKE FOR INSTANCE; THE PROGRAMMING THAT I HAVE BEEN AIRING: GOD'S POLITICS; WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT, IS PERFECT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO I AM TRYING TO REACH. I KNOW I HAVE UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE TOO, FROM THE HELL THAT I HAVE RAISED; BUT WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL; RAISING HELL IS WHAT I AM FORCED TO DO AT TIMES, DUE TO ECONOMIC AND ECOLOGICAL SLAVERY..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051112/93e2effe/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 12 11:19:06 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 12 11:19:13 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OF MY POSTINGS.... In-Reply-To: <20051112180448.24305.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 12, 2005 10:04:48 AM Message-ID: <20051112181906.98225.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Is that specifically what they said, or what you surmise? > > > > THE INITIAL COMPLAINT WAS BECAUSE OF FEAR IN THE > > MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THEIR GARGANTUAN > > You are evading the question. > > I DON'T THINK I AM EVADING THE QUESTION. > THE AIRWAVES BELONG TO THE PUBLIC; IN OTHER WORDS: > WE THE PEOPLE. I asked whether they said it was the content. You did not answer that. Whether the constitution says this or that is not relevant to the question. That is evasion. > UNFORTUANTELY; WE THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SO DUMBED DOWN > BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA INTRAFUCKTURE, THAT THE > MAJORITY OF US ARE BLIND AND/OR UNAWARE THAT WE > OURSELVES, OWN THE BROADCAST AIRWAVES; AND NOT THE > KOMMUNIST AND FASCIST POOPAGANDA CORPORATIONS..! Most people don't even care! They have other things they are concerned about, like making money, raising kids, etc. > > And if so, is it within FCC limits? > > > > DOES THE WEBLINK BELOW ANSWER THE QUESTION? : > > > > http://www.nationalassociationofmicrobroadcasters.com/contee.htm > > Once again, you are not answering a direct question. What one > official says is not relevant. The question is whether the FCC as a > unified entity accepts that you are conforming to their requirements > regarding power, range, content, etc. That's all. > > WELL; I DO NEED HELP WITH SOME OF MY ENGINEERING, AND > ALSO MONEY FINANCIAL MATTERS AS WELL..! You still did not answer the question. Are you operating within the FCC's limits? And are you in compliance with what the FCC asked you to do when they visited you? > (The web page is also confusing.) > > YES; THE WORDINGS IN THAT LETTER OF REPLY, ARE CONFUSING. > THE GARGANTUAN CORPORATIONS WITH THE LAW BOOKS OF The text of the page, not the letter, is very confusing. I did not read the letter. > You as an individual do not have the resources to fight them in > court, the only place where they can be fought. Before you pick a > fight, have ENOUGH allies behind you who are willing to support you, > fund your defense, etc. > > YEAH; OK. > > Have lawyers who believe IN THE CAUSE ready. Your typical lawyer > will defend YOU, try to show you were IN COMPLIANCE, or innocent due to > extenuating circumstances. > > INNOCENT, DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE BEYOND MY > CONTROL, IS 100% CORRECT..! But that DOES NOT help the PRINCIPLE that you wish to promote. That's a cop-out plea, and your circumstances are not going to work because you knowingly plugged the transmitter in and did willingly transmit what you transmitted. > In a principle case, you don't care about whether you are in > compliance, you are trying to show contradictions which show the FCC is > overreaching in their regulations. Because your average lawyer is a > weasel, he does not want a principle case, he wants a compliance case, > one he can plead you not guilty due to insanity or whatever. > > > OK.? > THE NEIGHBORS HAVE DRIVEN ME INSANE..! > NOT TO MENTION FAMILY AND FAMILY MATTERS AS WELL..! That is not relevant to the arguments. If they drive you insane and you machine gun them, it's still murder. Only if they start shooting at you, are you justified in shooting back. And then the machine gun becomes only a weapons possession charge, not a murder charge; though it would still have to be argued up and down several layers of courts, which would likely keep you in jail for ten years while all your assets were converted to lawyers fees, etc. > Furthermore, I would have people in your community lined up (or > letters from them) showing that they WANT your broadcasts. > > I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE FOR ME IN MY CASE, SINCE > I AM SUCH AN ISOLATIONIST. Then broadcasting, even in marginal violation of FCC regulations, is not a smart thing to do! Furthermore, as an isolationist, you don't know what the people want, or if the people are even listening to you. Every radio station needs to find out what their audience is. You seem to be broadcasting in the dark. > IN fact, the best tag line might be "I am guilty of wanting to hear > Clyde's broadcasts." This will help more with a principle case than a > compliance case. > > OK; I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT PASSING DOOR TO DOOR PRINTED > QUESTION SHEETS, REGARDING ISSUES THAT FOLKS REALLY > WANT TO LISTEN TO..! > SURVEYING THE PUBLIC IN THAT WAY. Good idea! > THE MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA OFFENDS SO MANY > PEOPLE AS IT ALREADY IS; WHAT I HAVE DONE IS VERY VERY > SMALL RELATIVE TO THE LARGE..! Irrelevant. > LIKE FOR INSTANCE; THE PROGRAMMING THAT I HAVE BEEN > AIRING: GOD'S POLITICS; WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND > THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT, IS PERFECT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO I > AM TRYING TO REACH. But do they listen? And do you make sense TO THEM? > I KNOW I HAVE UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE TOO, FROM THE HELL > THAT I HAVE RAISED; BUT WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES ARE BEYOND > MY CONTROL; RAISING HELL IS WHAT I AM FORCED TO DO AT > TIMES, DUE TO ECONOMIC AND ECOLOGICAL SLAVERY..! If you raise hell, it is your willful acts. Just make sure you don't let hell get out of control... so best not raise hell, as hell always gets out of control and burns the person raising it. Which is, after all, why they call it hell. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 12 11:29:08 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 12 11:29:12 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED: WHY POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE. AND; In-Reply-To: <20051112173339.12604.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 12, 2005 09:33:39 AM Message-ID: <20051112182908.4893.qmail@mall-net.com> > In the country would be a more ideal place to live, > than where I am currently forced to have to reside. > Problem is; How does one go about acquiring a > decent, small plot of land, off of the barbed wire > fenced sided paved county / country road? By paying for it, either as purchase, lease, or rental. I know about this because that's how I get my land. I go to the county tax department and get the assessor's maps. From that, I find owners, calling them, talking to them about renting or selling. Eventually, and it may take some time, I find one willing to rent. (I do this in the mountains because of the problems I have with air pollution. Otherwise, I'd be living in an apartment someplace.) > Does one just cut a hole in the fenceline and > bulldoze a road, and then have it graveled and/or > paved, without notifying anyone? That is squatting. It is illegal. It can cause you to end up in jail. But if you are there for five years in some states, you end up owning the land. It's called adverse possession. Only works if the land owner knows you are there and does nothing. Which is exceedingly unlikely! (Best prospect, an old person who's not got much energy. But he's also a good prospect for a sale, especially if you help this person for a few years. He might will it to you.) Other option is to look at tax assessor's land auction. Land is sold for back taxes if not paid in three or more years. You can get land very cheaply that way, IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH to make sure they didn't abandon that land because it is a toxic dump, swamp, etc. You want to find a county that is NOT going to do the auction on-line, as more and more are doing. On-line auction go way high and are just not within your or my reach. > And I am just absolutely sick of the industrialized > forever go nowhere shithole slumburb of where I am Concentrate on what you CAN do, and on what YOU WANT, not on the bad you think exists. Why waste your precious time feeling bad about stuff you can't control, when there are things you can do to improve your own life? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 12 13:17:55 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 12 13:18:00 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Passing of a Great among Greats Message-ID: <20051112201755.76550.qmail@mall-net.com> (Taps playing softly in the distance.) THE guru of management and founder of management consulting, Peter F. Drucker died Friday. He was 95. He was one of the most influential men of the 20th century. He was, in many ways, a True Mad Scientist, one who sees what others have not yet seen, one who predicts and describes a road society is yet to travel, and persists even as others brand him less than sane. It was a road he was lucky enough to live to see society choose and benefit immensely from. The purpose of business, he said, was to create a customer. The purpose of management, was to Enable the worker to perform. He held the greatest asset of any corporation to be the worker. He believed the purpose of management was to provide the means, improve the ability, and inspire the worker to do better, both at work, and in society in general. In that sense, he was the worker's man as well as the consumer's man. In a typical mad-scientist type experience, his push toward decentralization and worker empowerment after being hired by GM to review their organization in the 1940's, caused GM to declare that anyone caught with his books would be fired, as they were subversive of GM's strong central management concepts. GM's CEO Sloan, from what I recalled, was a real bastard about squeezing the last ounce of performance out of every line worker. Drucker's writing showed that he hated that kind of management as counterproductive both within the confines of the corporation, and within society in general. Drucker believed that management and the corporations were ultimately responsible not to the stock holders, but to society in general. As with many of his conflicts with the established management practices of the day, in the long run, Peter Drucker prevailed. He called massive layoffs of the 90's "morally and socially unforgivable", saying society and the corporations will suffer from these in the long run. Peter Drucker's view of what management should be, and should not be, created much of the prosperity of the 20th century by making corporations more customer oriented, a well as more effective and efficient. (Gilbreth made production more efficient. Demming too, improved general productivity.) I remember reading one of his interviews about the dot-com phenomenon in Industry Standard magazine. He was almost literally harangued by several dot-com CEOs, called an old fuddy duddy who hadn't a clue about the new economy, etc. etc. etc. I felt sorry for the guy, because I felt he was dead-on in what he said, and the dot-com CEOs were just nuts when they said profits didn't matter. Within about a year, Industry Standard magazine had folded, most of the dot-com CEOs in that interview were unemployed, and the insanity of the dot-com "era" was ending. Once again, Peter Drucker was shown fundamentally right; profits mattered! Market share, he said was important; but ultimately, you have to make a profit. I can not believe he would be in favor of exporting our bread and butter to the sweatshops of the third world, for that does not benefit the development of people within our society. It is the society itself, that he believes management must ultimately be responsible to. I read a bit of some of his early works, picked up on tag sale, and found them as current as when his books were new. I recognized in is books the principles I saw in the greatest of managers I had the privilege of working under. He wrote some damned good books. Even the old ones, I think, are worth reading. They ought to be, enough people though so that they were translated into over 30 languages. Taps... the bugle in the distance... When you look at the bounty that our corporations have created, remember that they did that with management principles Peter Drucker discovered and promoted. When you compare the 40 hour work week and the state of our workers vs the 60 - 80 hours and harsh conditions common to 19th century work, remember that it was the principles Peter Drucker promoted that gave us the freedom to enjoy the lives we live today. Peter F. Drucker was one of the Greatest of the Greats of the 20th century. A man who's principles made this the Greatest of the centuries we have yet had. And it is our duty, as mad scientists, to strive to make this new century even better by uncovering new principles and technologies to serve mankind as a whole. -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- ----- Advice, Analysis, Strategies, Development ----- Serving the World for three generations, since 1933 ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 14 11:06:15 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 14 11:06:34 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Petaflop, Here We Come! Message-ID: <003b01c5e946$1fe2d8b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> The Top500 list is out, and nine of the top ten fastest computers in the world are Made in the USA! Only the NEC Earth Simulator (formerly in the top spot, now number seven) is a foreign entry on the Top Ten. Number One, with a bullet, is the Blue Gene/L, running at an amazing peak speed of 367 Teraflops! It is three times faster than the number two computer. All of the top three are IBM boxes. Way to go, Itty Bitty Machine Corporation! Hold on to those top three, and I will not call you Inferior But Marketable. It is amazing what difference a year makes! In the past year, the speed of the world's fastest computers has increased by an order of magnitude. We should have Petaflop boxes by this time next year. I have over a gigaflop in my PC now- if I can just get a teraflop at a good price... The full Top500 list: http://www.top500.org/lists/2005/11/basic -MB "Machines work. Men THINK!" -IBM From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 14 11:17:10 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 14 11:18:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Round Three in the UN's attempt to commandeer the Internet Message-ID: <003c01c5e947$b4954b40$d0c5bc41@mikey> Governments resume key talks on control of the Internet Sun Nov 13, 2:20 PM ET Yahoo! News About 170 countries kicked off a final round of negotiations on the controversial issue of control of the Internet and the core technical infrastructure that allows it to operate seamlessly worldwide. The issue, which has been under discussion for at least three years, is broadly pitting the United States against other countries that want to reduce Washington's potential to control the global public computer network. The preparatory talks attracted more negotiators than expected, and are likely to carry on through the three-day World Summit for the Information Society beginning on Wednesday, said Sarah Parkes, a spokeswoman for the organisers, the UN's International Telecommunications Union. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051113/tc_afp/unsummitittelecom_051113192041;_ ylt=Ah523g1Ipm1_AZUjEksCih6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg- OR: http://snipurl.com/jw80 -MB From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 14 18:24:56 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Nov 14 18:25:04 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT AND RIGHT? In-Reply-To: <20051106194633.7998.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051115012457.49171.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT AND RIGHT OF AMERICA ANYMORE??? --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051114/5ab16bc9/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 14 19:17:42 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Nov 14 19:18:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO LINKS TO SHARE. Message-ID: <20051115021742.25868.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> TWO LINKS TO SHARE: http://www.naturalcures.com http://www.thewhistleblower.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051114/1a13b4ec/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Nov 16 15:46:11 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Nov 16 15:46:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Freee for the Taking! Message-ID: <20051116224612.75785.qmail@mall-net.com> Several days ago, I came across a ship for sale in Oregon. This ship, an 80 foot scow (flat bottomed, square ended ship) with boom, winch, and all was engaged in the lucrative but low tech occupation of beached log salvage in Alaska. Prior use had been as a salmon tender, off-loading salmon from fishing boats and delivering it to local canneries. The thought is that the application of technology might improve profit, as well as providing some of you an opportunity for "outdoor tinkering." Background: Due to inclement weather, incompetence, and other natural events, logs being towed from logging areas in Alaska and elsewhere often end up on beaches, and are essentially FREE for salvage, subject to government permits, ownership, and other considerations. (Well ok, not completely free; but in most cases, within 90% of being free. Excluding cost of recovery.) Salvage is generally done from boats, which use winches and cable to pull these logs off shore, and bundle them into suitable packages for local mill operations. Substantial moneys may be made by this means, from what I have been told, enough to pay for this boat in several years or even less. The advantage of Alaska vs British Columbia, is that the BC wood market is dominated by a very few pulp mills with monopolistic tendencies; whereas the Alaskan market has multiple independent mills and a more favorable permit structure. (You don't need to be a landed Canadian citizen.) Additional benefits are being out at sea in low auto traffic areas for those with problems from air pollution. An ideal occupation for those who enjoy fresh air and the sea! (Probably cure you of that mistaken opinion in less than a month.) Photographs of workers engaging in said occupation show them walking on logs floating in water in fresh air areas. Balance and poise a plus for this occupation. From some angles these people appear to be walking on water! (Before sinking into it.) This implies some physical risk, both of immersion, hypothermia, crushing, etc. Life expectancy might be downgraded for those with known hypothermia problems and/or coordination problems when cold or otherwise. (Polar Bear club members are urged to apply.) In short, damned cold dangerous work for anyone other than the captain of the ship. (Me!) That is, unless we apply Technology! Advantage: This does imply those engaged in this occupation might not be too swift, thus conferring some advantages to more innovative individuals. Any means of reducing the manual handling of logs and/or speeding the operations would be advantageous. This, of course, means we mad scientists and robot builders may have substantial advantages! (If we survive.) Those active in remote control robotics, or having spare cash invest are welcome to brainstorm on this list. (We could use some $80K for start-up costs exclusive of robotics.) A few ideas include: * Laser Guided Harpoon for attaching drift logs to winch cable. * Robotic remote operated lift floats -- twin floats with cable in between and air compressor to attach to and lift partly beached and floating logs for winching to ship. * Other remotely operated devices for attaching cables, etc. to floating or beached logs. Do any of you have other ideas which might make this an enjoyable, survivable occupation? Would any of you be interested in joining me in this adventure on the low seas? (Or pounding some sense into me?) Seriously though, if we could come up with some innovative technology, this might be a viable deal. If not, I'm not going to even try walking on this cold water alone! -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- ----- Advice, Analysis, Strategies, Development ----- Serving the World for three generations, since 1933 ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Nov 17 11:31:42 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Nov 17 11:32:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRYSTALS. Message-ID: <20051117183143.19445.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> CRYSTALS: http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CR/CRYSTALLOGRAPHY.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051117/e9012bb3/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Nov 17 11:46:16 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Nov 17 11:46:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Cracks in the White House In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051117184617.25203.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Constitution Party National Committee wrote: 23 North Lime Street Lancaster, PA 17602 (800)2-VETO-IRS contactus@constitutionparty.org --------------------------------- Dear Friends, After almost five years in office, the Bush welcome in Washington is beginning to wear thin. More than four years after the event which set the tone for his presidency ??? 9/11 ??? the evidence is mounting that both President Bush???s grassroots base and his political allies in Washington are wearying of a one-note presidency apparently more interested in destroying and rebuilding Iraq than in protecting our own borders, and with perpetuating the big-government, anti-constitutional agenda of his predecessor instead of reducing the size of the federal government. In the immediate wake of 9/11, President Bush and his handlers refocused all of America???s attention on hunting down the enemies who had committed the worst act of mass murder in American history. As our bombs began raining on Afghanistan and later, Iraq, many Americans seemed content to applaud the war effort and ignore other aspects of the Bush agenda. President Bush???s enthusiasm for opening our already porous southern border even further by granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, and for propelling America into the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas (FTAA), went almost unnoticed. His pandering to environmental extremists in the proposed Clear Skies Initiative ??? which would have provided a framework for regulating American industry even more severely than the Kyoto Pact ??? was virtually ignored. President Bush has made it very clear he is a fervent supporter of more and more federal involvement in education, health care, and a host of other sectors where t he federal government has no constitutional authorization to legislate. Yet, because of the aw-shucks, down-home, church-going persona crafted by his sophisticated team of handlers, many among his conservative base have continued to give him the benefit of the doubt. Until recently. Suddenly, with U.S. war deaths in Iraq over 2000, and no end in sight for the bloody mess we???ve helped to create in that tragic land, the gung-ho boosterism of the war hawks is losing credibility. Americans are beginning to realize that George Bush has no exit strategy and fully intends to stay in Iraq for the duration of his administration, leaving the mess he created for his successors to clean up. Bush???s economic policies, which have consisted mostly of a series of temporary tax cuts with no corresponding cuts in the size of government, have been losing their luster thanks to a stagnant stock market, soaring gasoline prices, and stunning numbers of job losses. The recent Hurricane Katrina debacle showed the country that Bush is more committed to policing and rebuilding Iraq, half a world away, than with protecting our homeland against natural disasters. The levees that failed to protect New Orleans were denied an upgrade, which might have enabled them to withstand a Category Five hurricane, because the money was diverted to Iraq. Finally, the now-withdrawn nomination of Harriet Miers, a stealth attempt to replace Sandra O???Connor with another liberal on the Supreme Court, shows that Bush is no conservative on social issues either. In short, in President George W. Bush we have, as we had with his father, a big-government conservative with no interest in upholding his constitutional oath of office. Bush???s well-meaning but ultimately misguided base is finally beginning to wake up to the fact. But what is to be done about it? It is important that everyone interested in returning our federal government to America???s constitutional and moral roots understand that the Republican Party is never going to do the job. They had a chance during the Reagan years, when we had a president who at least made great speeches about the Constitution, the value of truly free markets, the evils of communism, and so forth. But they blew it because party insiders and the liberal Democrat majority in Congress made sure that Reagan never had a chance to implement serious reforms. The GOP had another, even better chance to show they were serious about reforming the federal government in 1994 when, for the first time in decades, they captured both houses of Congress. Now, in control of both houses of Congress and the White House, instead of showing leadership in the face of predictably shrill opposition to any intention to trim government fat, they have lapsed into muttering me-tooisms. Most of those conservative, avowe dly constitutionalist warriors from the grassroots who got elected in 1994 are either gone or have, in quaint beltway parlance, "grown in office," happy now to play the game they were elected to stop. While the conservative Republican base has waited ??? for the right Supreme Court nominee, who never seems to come along; for an elected leadership that will finally abolish unconstitutional departments like the Department of Education; and for a President and Congress who will finally get serious about both cutting taxes and balancing the budget by genuinely reducing government spending ??? America continues to lurch further and further down the road to serfdom. The national debt continues to soar, the American military is stretched more and more thinly across the globe, hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants continue to pour into the United States, and the usurped, unconstitutional powers of the federal government continue to expand at an alarming rate. Sooner or later (and we pray it will be sooner), grassroots conservatives will fully awaken to the fact that they have been sold a bill of goods by the Republican Party. They will recognize that the American ship of state will not be returned to her proper course without true constitutionalists at the helm. And true constitutionalists ??? who will cut taxes, eliminate government waste, avoid unnecessary military entanglements, defend our borders, and appoint fellow constitutionalists to the Supreme Court ??? are to be found in only one political party, the Constitution Party. As the Bush Administration continues to founder and the scales fall from the eyes of our well-meaning Republican friends, let???s take advantage of this wonderful opportunity to see that, in the next elections, we send some Constitution Party candidates to Washington, and begin to win back our electorate and our country from the entrenched bipartisan elites. Yours for Liberty, James N. Clymer, National Chairman Please support the work of the Constitution Party by clicking here To unsubscribe from CPNC newsletters click here. Please visit our website at www.constitutionparty.org. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051117/e6f85d72/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Nov 17 12:31:47 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Nov 17 12:31:53 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Cracks in the White House In-Reply-To: <20051117184617.25203.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 17, 2005 10:46:16 AM Message-ID: <20051117193147.91817.qmail@mall-net.com> > Constitution Party National Committee > After almost five years in office, the Bush welcome in Washington... Clyde, this isn't Mad Politicians, it's Mad Scientists. Let's talk about science, not politics. -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Nov 17 12:34:43 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Nov 17 12:34:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRYSTALS. In-Reply-To: <20051117183143.19445.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 17, 2005 10:31:42 AM Message-ID: <20051117193443.93870.qmail@mall-net.com> > CRYSTALS: > > http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CR/CRYSTALLOGRAPHY.htm They really need web help with the formatting of that page! -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- --------------- Every click, a vote. ---------------- ----- Do people vote for, or against your pages? ---- -- What people want: http://www.SitePsych.com/free -- ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Nov 17 14:13:39 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Nov 17 14:13:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Ur R@ is in the Trap In-Reply-To: <20051117193443.93870.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Nov 17, 2005 07:34:43 PM Message-ID: <20051117211339.55602.qmail@mall-net.com> Scientists devise intelligent rat trap. What more could a rat want, an intelligent trap that senses it's weight to insure it has the right creature, notifies it's owner via cell phone, and then gently puts it to sleep with prophylactic dose of carbon dioxide. http://www.newscientist.com/channel/mech-tech/mg18825266.500.html So much better than those unpredictable, allergenic, furry, pooping alternatives Mad Scientist Mike keeps offering us! (Though in all honesty, having killed a few mice by gassing them with CO2 when they woke up partly mangled from a trap in the plastic bag I was throwing them out in, CO2 is anything but gentle. The victim starts breathing violently, heaving, and dies in convulsions. Better than briefly becoming a cat's toy, but nowhere near as good as a sudden spring trap snapping its neck. Sad not all go that quickly.) -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Nov 18 06:58:53 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Nov 18 06:59:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Freee for the Taking! Message-ID: <25a.1817154.30af381d@aol.com> What an adventure !!!!! You write, Due to inclement weather, incompetence, and other natural events, logs being towed from logging areas in Alaska and elsewhere often end up on beaches, and are essentially FREE for salvage, subject to government permits, ownership, and other considerations. (Well ok, not completely free; but in most cases, within 90% of being free. Excluding cost of recovery.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------- Have you any idea of the potential supply of these (lost) logs that can be salvaged each year ? How many other companies would you be competing with ? The saw mills pay for logs on a grading system, They want logs in good condition, these logs have to be fairly new, the elements in Alaska will rot logs most fast I would think. Up on Lake Superior this guy found that logs that had gone to the bottom of the lake were preserved by the cold water, some over a hundred years old, were worth a fortune. The wood is extraordinary and the company he founded to salvage the logs makes a fortune. I believe there is also some chemical compound in the water that aids in the preservation of the wood . These fresh water logs are unique, they are one of a kind, you get a hold of some of that wood and you have something you can find no where else on earth. You write In short, damned cold dangerous work for anyone other than the captain of the ship.( ME!) -------------------------------------------------------------- O.K. Say you find there is a good market for found logs, so how do you find them? These logs are floated down fresh water streams to the sea, or saw mills. You would not be spending much time at sea, you would be following the path of the boats that lost the logs originally. It would not be like sailing up a highway, there are no maps, or few that anyone but a navigator or Native could follow. Now to technology, I am sure that if there was enough money to be made in this venture, someone would have used it by now. You may pay off the boat in 5 years, but the machinery, robots etc. would take 100 years to pay off. First the salary of operator and mechanic, ouch! In order to go into this enterprise there would have to be backup machinery in case of failure. Replacement parts for the robots, ships engine the whole propulsion system, radio equipment, satellite direction finders, It boggles my mind to think of the money needed to start up this operation. What on earth do we do now?--------- I love the idea, ---------I would come as Chief cook and bottle washer, do the laundry, keep the cabin clean, help swab the deck and keep the arms clean and in ready action just in case we had to beach the vessel. Grizzly bears, and any other varmints that would take an interest in us while we un beach the boat would have to be dealt with. I have my first aid and defib training (have to buy one of them too.) I would bring my two jet skies, tie them to the stern with a small dingy for rescue and life boat. I am a pretty good shot, fresh meat be ours from time to time, imagine eating meat with no man made poisons in them. Then somewhere aft we could keep a small chicken coop with laying hens. When Lewis and Clark took their trip of a life time they brought along their beloved Newfoundland dog, got to get one of them !!!! A thought, the Government gives grants for just about anything. How much of Alaska is correctly mapped? We know next to nothing about a least half of that state. Could get a grant to take along topography students or government assayers. If the log business doesn't pan out, it would be interesting to take gold prospectors, hunting expeditions, besides the government people. The list is endless of interesting folks that would to search out the hidden parts of Alaska. I myself would rather travel on hidden waterways with some comfort and safety rather then being set down in a plane in nowhere and backpacking, walking for miles. Finding a log here or there would be gravy. Life is so short, I would love to see Clyde out there hauling up the anchor, getting a taste for life on the really wild side. Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051118/f3504b0e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 18 12:14:04 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 18 12:14:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRYSTALS. In-Reply-To: <20051117193443.93870.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051118191405.81153.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > CRYSTALS: > > http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CR/CRYSTALLOGRAPHY.htm They really need web help with the formatting of that page! GOOD! MAYBE YOU CAN HELP THEM OUT ON IT..! I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PORTION THAT HAS THE LIST OF CRYSTALLINE PROPERTIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEBPAGE, INSTEAD OF IN THE MIDDLE OF IT..! LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051118/73ee2f06/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Nov 18 12:50:22 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Nov 18 12:50:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Freee for the Taking! In-Reply-To: <25a.1817154.30af381d@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Nov 18, 2005 08:58:53 AM Message-ID: <20051118195023.46901.qmail@mall-net.com> > What an adventure !!!!! Yes, classical. (Barely survivable, something you write a classical romantic novel about, like White Fang, or Call of the Wild, etc.) > Have you any idea of the potential supply of these (lost) logs that can be > salvaged each year ? How many other companies would you be competing with ? Logs floating down the coast are legendary. There are a number of individuals doing this; the previous owner of the boat made over $30,000 in a few months doing this ALONE with a little skiff to attach the cable to the log, going back to the boat, hauling, etc. (Meaning to say, I dont' have a clue yet. Some poor schmuck did it, made some money, and then figured he'd be better off selling the boat to some other poor schmuck. If there is enough interests, I should get the guy's name and interview him, then interview a few others who's names might be obtained via other means. They're probably all snowed in by now.) Which means he probably spent (n-1) * 2 the skiff time a two person crew would on multi-log hauls. (Assuming one can shoot a line to get the hauling cable back out without running it out in another skiff.) If a log is worth $50 - $100, not unreasonable an assumption, that's five logs a day. This strikes me as a reasonable number. Ten would likely be too much work in one day, leaving the sole operator subject to higher risk factors due to fatigue clouding judgement. A two person crew or a crew in which an operations manager was not subject to fatigue would likely be able to do better with considerably less risk. (You fall in, someone gets you vs having to get oneself out of the ice water, find one's skiff, and still be able to get from the skiff into the ship by one's self. Me? I'd dead!) Aside from search time, which will vary; skiff time is going to be the leading improvable consumer of operational time. These two, search and skiff times, will determine the profitability of the operation. Skiff time can be improved by remove line delivery (harpoon, etc.) and search time might be improved by using remotely operated model aircraft with video cameras. It was suggested to put a saw mill on the deck, so as to pre-cut the wood for sale, either as cants (square log-sized beams sans bark) or general lumber. This would improve profitability, but at some personal risk as well as potential charges of who's wood is this really. (Photographs!) Also, whereas one can drag a fair sized raft of salvaged logs, cut lumber can not be dropped back into the water. Plus there is the dewatering operation on lumber that has sat longer in the water. If one does have to share the cost of the lumber, pre-cutting it and sharing a higher price would likely get tow operators notifying us of losses, asking us to do the salvage. On the other hand, the boat was a tender, so supplying some of these ships and pre-cutting lumber for them might be lucrative in good weather. One could even beach the ship for stability and do lumber on the beach, beating out the lumbermills. > The saw mills pay for logs on a grading system, They want logs in good > condition, these logs have to be fairly new, the elements in Alaska will rot logs > most fast I would think. Amazon, maybe. Not in cold Alaskan waters! > Up on Lake Superior this guy found that logs that had gone to the bottom of > the lake were preserved by the cold water, some over a hundred years old, were > worth a fortune. The wood is extraordinary and the company he founded to Other operations are planned for Idaho's rivers and elsewhere. > O.K. Say you find there is a good market for found logs, so how do you > find them? These logs are floated down fresh water streams to the sea, or saw > mills. You would not be spending much time at sea, you would be following the > path of the boats that lost the logs originally. It would not be like > sailing up a highway, there are no maps, or few that anyone but a navigator or > Native could follow. Beached logs are beached on beaches. Streams and narrow rivers pose substantial risk to a boat. I would not attempt to do that with anything other than... well... not in this vessel, anyway. This scow is made of heavy wood with metal above water. > Now to technology, I am sure that if there was enough money to be made in > this venture, someone would have used it by now. You may pay off the boat in 5 Tradition and ornery individuality, etc. suggest otherwise. Most of the more intelligent folks would find other, more sedate work elsewhere. The people doing this are not the corporate types who sit at desks and dream of things to do; they are visual-object oriented people. See-do, as I have become quite aware of up here. They don't want to discuss their work, they just want to DO it NOW! And then get drunk instead of facing the world. I've got people like that up here. They even know how to count logs. (Beer bottles is another matter, though most can count to "none", and that is the eventual state anyway.) > years, but the machinery, robots etc. would take 100 years to pay off. First Corporations demand high redundancy high effectiveness. We are more interested in shaving a dozen minutes off a log; more if possible. > the salary of operator and mechanic, ouch! In order to go into this > enterprise there would have to be backup machinery in case of failure. Replacement > parts for the robots, ships engine the whole propulsion system, radio > equipment, satellite direction finders, It boggles my mind to think of the money > needed to start up this operation. Individuals take a more adventurous view of such things. "Foolhardy" is a common term used after the fact regarding such operations. > What on earth do we do now?--------- I love the idea, ---------I would > come as Chief cook and bottle washer, do the laundry, keep the cabin clean, help > swab the deck and keep the arms clean and in ready action just in case we First, comes checking out the finance, then the business plan. And then borrowing the money. Given an adequate business plan, the money can be obtained! The first question I and some potential investors will have, is what is our advantage? What can we do better, faster, etc. to make more money than the next guy? I've got maybe 15 productive years left. I don't want to run the next five doing this. The plan would be to prove our technology, then hire other boats to run our style of operation or sell our equipment, training, and consulting services. I could see three things: Operate spotter aircraft to survey areas and sell the data. Tender and portable lumbermill operations. Equipment manufacture / training / consulting on rapid extraction technologies. > A thought, the Government gives grants for just about anything. How much of > Alaska is correctly mapped? We know next to nothing about a least half of Shorelines, etc. shift. Air and satellite surveys handle much of that. Carrying GPS around isn't going to give us so much data that we become a source for anyone other than those like us. > assayers. If the log business doesn't pan out, it would be interesting to > take gold prospectors, hunting expeditions, besides the government people. This is an option. Tourists in their short RVs and trailers could be parked on the deck. Three or four, maybe five. Operating cost is about 10 - 12 gallons of untaxed diesel per hour of movement. Less if slower, more if faster. > The list is endless of interesting folks that would to search out the > hidden parts of Alaska. I myself would rather travel on hidden waterways with some > comfort and safety rather then being set down in a plane in nowhere and > backpacking, walking for miles. Yes. > Finding a log here or there would be gravy. Life is so short, I would love > to see Clyde out there hauling up the anchor, getting a taste for life on the > really wild side. Clyde, I fear, would not appreciate the challenge. And with good reason! He's biochemically marginal as it is. Stress of cold, etc. might not improve his disposition. Not to mention that WE are going to be cold and stressed and in serious need of encouragement rather than negativism. Plus with his problems, he likely has coordination deficits which could easily prove fatal. Lose your balance and end up in ice cold water. Hypothermia! And so instead of hauling a log or four, we end up doing a search and rescue operation each time he falls in. By the time he's done it three times, it's $1500 off our profits, plus heading for the nearest port and shipping him home. (Preferably as passenger, rather than iced, boxed freight.) This is also why _I_ will be the captain. I have coordination deficits when cold, easily fall into hypothermia, etc. The bridge is the only sensible place for a clumsy, cerebral person like me on a ship. Otherwise there's no idea what I might have done with my life! Radio operator, air transport pilot, deep sea diver, detective, CIA operative, maybe even a lawyer; who knows! So once again, what can we do about gaining an operations advantage over the rest of the guys doing this? Because without operational advantages, we're just a bunch of city slickers freezing our rear ends and losing our shirts on an expensive boat. And that's not the kind of adventure I'd like to have. I want to breathe fresh air, do something interesting, and make some decent money. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Nov 19 07:00:31 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Nov 19 07:00:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] lotts of ideas Message-ID: <236.1d0f70c.30b089ff@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/2005 2:51:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: So once again, what can we do about gaining an operations advantage over the rest of the guys doing this? Because without operational advantages, we're just a bunch of city slickers freezing our rear ends and losing our shirts on an expensive boat. And that's not the kind of adventure I'd like to have. I want to breathe fresh air, do something interesting, and make some decent money. I messed up the PC so good I can now only receive or send e-mail in text , I can't get in to the internet browser at all, so I am limited from doing the searches I would like to do. Having said that. Sometime in the past I watched a documentary on people, whole familys that live on the way out lakes in Alaska. They build rafts, Huge rafts, and place cabins, nice ones on the deck. Their children were either home schooled or sent to board in Juno for the school year. This so enthralled me that I did a look up of seasonal camps that take in visitors on these lakes that are 500 miles or more from nowhere. I found a few really interesting ones, I believe something about taxes has a lot to do with living on the lakes, no one owns the lake so you have no rent or mortgage to pay. I rolled the concept about in my head for a few months then dropped it as I could not find one bloody soul that had any interest in giving it even a passing thought.------- Amazing, I could not find anyone with any vision or interest other then plodding through life living the safest and most comfortable lives they can. Where I ask, where are the descendants of the Pioneers that went West? I have heard that a form of dyslexia played a big roll in the lives of the adventures, people who could not sit still, had to be on the move just to see something different. For the past 70 years or so this society has gone the way that yells " Conform, Conform." I am speaking of the society that is the common society, not the UPPER CRUST one could say. If a child of the last couple generations were to be born to parents with money, and, this child had this form of dyslexia, the parents had the money to indulge and finance any so called hair brained scheme the child could come up with. Wonderful inventions, and discoverys came from these kids. Because they came from money no one would dare critique their work or ideas. People may have called them "crazy old mad scientist" behind their backs but when the nut cases proved their worth they were lauded as a genius. An example-- The other night I was watching a program that focused on inventions to do with food manufacturing. Can't recall the name of the inventor( see) but this man from a dirt poor family began work at 10 years old as a glass blower, he went on to invent the bottling machine. Had this man come from money he would have been called a genus, but since he came from common stock, what the hell was his name??? You write This is also why _I_ will be the captain. I have coordination deficits when cold, easily fall into hypothermia, etc. The bridge is the only sensible place for a clumsy, cerebral person like me on a ship. Otherwise there's no idea what I might have done with my life! Radio operator, air transport pilot, deep sea diver, detective, CIA operative, maybe even a lawyer; who knows! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- How I laughed when I read that !!!! You have just described me !!!! How nice to find someone that understands what life is like for a klutz. I sit here at this time having a couple of weeks ago gotten tangled up in an air hose at work. Result, shoulder broken in three places and a torn rotor cuff. I am no stranger to pain, having small bones I have from the time I was three broken most every bone in my body. Being adventures in my youth and now as a soon to be senior citizen, I get lost in thought, I need to start paying attention more to the things on around me I guess. I like your idea of using remote controlled air plane with camera, however I don't think Radio Shack sells any that have a distance of more then a quarter mile. Ah well, life goes on-----Nothing sadder then two old folks sitting about talking about what Could have been. Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051119/49a26a43/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Nov 19 08:24:22 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Nov 19 08:24:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Automatic mousetraps Message-ID: <002f01c5ed1d$51d95800$d0c5bc41@mikey> With a conventional mousetrap, the second mouse gets a free meal. With my Automatic Mousetraps, the second mouse is dessert! With their built in microprocessor and operating system, they can seek out and destroy all manner of rodents. They are active mousetraps, going after the mice and hunting them down. All other mousetraps are passive, sitting there waiting for some hapless mouse to stumble along. And if you desire to be notified of every mouse killed, they can bring the mouse to you instead of consuming it for fuel. In short, my Automatic Mousetraps are the most efficient way to eliminate mice! And they can be quite entertaining, as well. I'm offering a two for the price of one sale this week- so place your orders now! And those small glitches John mentions are being worked on. By my next upgrade, they should be eliminated- just like Microsoft will have all Windows bugs eliminated in Vista! -Mike From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 19 11:51:22 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 19 11:51:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Automatic mousetraps In-Reply-To: <002f01c5ed1d$51d95800$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 19, 2005 10:24:22 AM Message-ID: <20051119185122.94995.qmail@mall-net.com> > > With a conventional mousetrap, the second mouse gets a free meal. > > With my Automatic Mousetraps, the second mouse is dessert! > > With their built in microprocessor and operating system, they can seek > out and destroy all manner of rodents. They are active mousetraps, going > after the mice and hunting them down. All other mousetraps are passive, > sitting there waiting for some hapless mouse to stumble along. > And those small glitches John mentions are being worked on. By my next > upgrade, they should be eliminated- just like Microsoft will have all > Windows bugs eliminated in Vista! BEWARE! This person is peddling archaic bio(il)logical devices running the CATS operating system -- Consolidated Active Troublemaking System! If you thought Windows has problems... Oy!!! The only saving grace is that these fubar things go down multiple times a day to take CATS Naps! Beware the bio(il)logicals! -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 19 12:42:10 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 19 12:42:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] lotts of ideas In-Reply-To: <236.1d0f70c.30b089ff@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Nov 19, 2005 09:00:31 AM Message-ID: <20051119194210.26595.qmail@mall-net.com> >> So once again, what can we do about gaining an operations advantage >> over the rest of the guys doing this? Because without operational >> advantages, we're just a bunch of city slickers freezing our rear ends >> and losing our shirts on an expensive boat. And that's not the kind of >> adventure I'd like to have. I want to breathe fresh air, do >> something interesting, and make some decent money. > > > I messed up the PC so good I can now only receive or send e-mail in text , > I can't get in to the internet browser at all, so I am limited from doing the > searches I would like to do. Install Linux. Perfect time! http://www.CheapBytes.com/ > Having said that. Sometime in the past I watched a documentary on people, > whole familys that live on the way out lakes in Alaska. They build rafts, > Huge rafts, and place cabins, nice ones on the deck. Their children were > either home schooled or sent to board in Juno for the school year. Intersting... no taxes, no rent, etc... > a passing thought.------- Amazing, I could not find anyone with any vision > or interest other then plodding through life living the safest and most > comfortable lives they can. I read some books about Alaska... It the cold does not get you, the stark isolation may. if anything goes wrong in the middle of the winter, you're on your own. > Where I ask, where are the descendants of the Pioneers that went West? I > have heard that a form of dyslexia played a big roll in the lives of the > adventures, people who could not sit still, had to be on the move just to see > something different. That call is still there in the youth. > For the past 70 years or so this society has gone the way that yells " > Conform, Conform." I am speaking of the society that is the common society, not > the UPPER CRUST one could say. If a child of the last couple generations were to try running on generators and solar. try lugging in your own water. try repairing your own computer miles away from anyone. Oh, you probably did that decades ago. Remember how that compares with today? > be born to parents with money, and, this child had this form of dyslexia, > the parents had the money to indulge and finance any so called hair brained > scheme the child could come up with. Wonderful inventions, and discoverys > came from these kids. Because they came from money no one would dare critique > their work or ideas. People may have called them "crazy old mad scientist" > behind their backs but when the nut cases proved their worth they were lauded as > a genius. Not quite true. Sure, they have a leg up on others. but they also learned a few things us common folks didn't -- many get a better education in managing risk and money. They learn to make more contacts than we do and have the opportunity to make more contacts than we do. >> This is also why _I_ will be the captain. I have coordination >> deficits when cold, easily fall into hypothermia, etc. The bridge is >> the only sensible place for a clumsy, cerebral person like me on a ship. >> Otherwise there's no idea what I might have done with my life! Radio >> operator, air transport pilot, deep sea diver, detective, CIA operative, >> maybe even a lawyer; who knows! > How I laughed when I read that !!!! You have just described me !!!! > How nice to find someone that understands what life is like for a klutz. I > sit here at this time having a couple of weeks ago gotten tangled up in an > air hose at work. Result, shoulder broken in three places and a torn rotor > cuff. I am no stranger to pain, having small bones I have from the time I was > three broken most every bone in my body. Being adventures in my youth and now > as a soon to be senior citizen, I get lost in thought, I need to start > paying attention more to the things on around me I guess. When I was a kid, I would run down the hill in our back yard, falling, tucking my shoulder over and rolling. It scared the wits out of my father and mother, who warned me of the critter holes in our hill, saying I'd break my leg in them. This training served me well. I remember tripping up here a few years back, falling over, feet flying over my head, and coming up to a standing crouch, undamaged camera still firmly held in my hand. I do trip on occasion; but as long as I am warm enough, the coordination and reflexes pull me through. Not so when I am cold! > I like your idea of using remote controlled air plane with camera, however I > don't think Radio Shack sells any that have a distance of more then a quarter > mile. That's enough to have a good look at things. Further would be better, or course, but a thousand feet is a good start. > Ah well, life goes on-----Nothing sadder then two old folks sitting about > talking about what Could have been. I ain't old, sonny; just a little tired. Plenty of life and youth I still can hire or inspire! And management like that is what we naturally should move into as our wisdom increases! I want that damned boat! I just have to figure out how to make it pay me to keep it. The difference between men and boys, is that boys pay for their toys while real men make their toys pay them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Nov 19 15:54:57 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Nov 19 15:55:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New Googolism on Kim Komando today Message-ID: <008c01c5ed5c$4439cce0$d0c5bc41@mikey> --> GOOGLE HELPS YOU 'BORROW' OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK Google has added the ability to search for content based on Creative Commons licenses. These licenses grant a variety of rights. For example, some let you copy others' work. Others let you make additions and changes to the work. This new search feature hasn't received as much attention as Google's other recent offerings. But it is an interesting way to search. To access the feature, visit Google's Advanced Search page. Use the box labeled Usage Rights to make your selection. http://www.google.com/advanced_search From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Nov 19 16:15:50 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Nov 19 16:16:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: New Googolism on Kim Komando today In-Reply-To: <008c01c5ed5c$4439cce0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 19, 2005 05:54:57 PM Message-ID: <20051119231550.66727.qmail@mall-net.com> Look, we don 't need more komodo dragons, kimonese or otherwise. Please. I've looked at her site once regarding something, I think it was trying to help her or someone she was helping. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Nov 19 16:27:46 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Nov 19 16:27:51 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: New Googolism on Kim Komando today In-Reply-To: <20051119231550.66727.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <008e01c5ed60$da2135a0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Nope, this was just reported by the Kim Komodo dragon. The actual site referenced is a Googelism. Now that may be even worse! -MB > -----Original Message----- > From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:16 PM > To: mbest@triad.rr.com > Cc: javilk@mall-net.com; mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > Subject: Re: New Googolism on Kim Komando today > > > Look, we don 't need more komodo dragons, kimonese or otherwise. > Please. > > I've looked at her site once regarding something, I think it was > trying to help her or someone she was helping. > > -J- From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Nov 20 08:09:34 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Nov 20 08:09:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] lotts of ideas Message-ID: <267.11b45e.30b1ebae@aol.com> In a message dated 11/19/2005 2:42:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: I want that damned boat! I just have to figure out how to make it pay me to keep it. I well know what you mean. I have to put this in context with whom you are to come up with answers or suggestions. you write I do trip on occasion; but as long as I am warm enough, the coordination and reflexes pull me through. Not so when I am cold! ------------------------------------------ I know, once it gets down to 55 degrees out I get too chilled to be out doors unless I have full scale Arctic jacket. So, no. 1 You want the bloody scow. no.2 It must pay for itself n.3 You want the vessel to be a fun thing, (ie) you hate to sleep since you can't wait to see what each new day will bring. no.4 some how you wish to overcome your physical limitations. ( COLD ) Here is what I would do if I could buy that boat, this is just me, not you. I would have the entire ships deck stripped excepting the bridge house. There would be a complete refit from hull scraping to engines, pumps, pipes and tanks newly lagged, clothed out and mudded---not in that order naturally. All anchors, chains, ropes inspected and replaced as needed. Up date the navigational equipment, radar and depth finder, put in top of the line communication equipment. While this is going on, say 6 months, I would live at the Coastguard station taking lessons in navigation and what not to get my skippers licence for a vessel over 80 feet. Can't do nothing without that licence. I would spend hours a day in the bilges learning everything I could about repairing and maintaining the propulsion systems, wiring and the stand by batteries. About the time I put the boat in refit before I do any of the above I would head for Maine Maritime Academy and recruit a couple of juniors to spend their summer vacation aboard the ship. Here I am now, got the boat, got my licence, got a crew, where in hell and what do and where do I go now??? Why, the big island of Hawaii, where else can one live in comfort all year not too cold, not too hot. Now, there are two ways I can go here. I can outfit the deck along the lines of a Head Boat, that takes people fishing for the day. Or, I could put Tiki huts on the deck and take divers out for a week or more. Could transport people from island to island as well as goods, non perishable items. Believe it or not there is a pretty penny to be made in the transporting live stock from island to island out there. Don't need a big crew, the Academy guys would go home after I reached Honolulu and hire a couple of locals that have worked the waters there enough to know the best routes to take, who to bribe when seeking a port pass, you know, you got to get to know the bad fellows first. I don't want to be used by the drug runners so must be very careful who I will do business with. I expect there would be times when I would have to turn a blind eye to some things, but in the most part I would get to know the Commandant of every Coastguard station on all islands, the chief of police in every port. One other thing, because I am me, I have family on the big Island. Their family settled there in the 1800eds. they run a big charter boat business. My dad ran into them when he visited the Yacht Club back in the mid 70ies. He was amazed to find family that had been lost to us all these years. His 5th. cousin or so had jumped ship there and married a native. Now, that branch of the family is mostly native. Good old dad, he looked at the fine strapping dark skinned kin folks, came home and placed their family portrait next to his great grand pa's since he shared the mans blood with them. For me, I have an "in" there, for you, well, you would have to survive with no connections other then what you ,,yourself could make. Being in port of call you would meet the dregs of the earth, the Saints of the Sea and just every day people. You would have to sort them out. After paying off operating expenses you may find you net 10,000 a year. Not bad when you consider you have paid up all your bills plus food, clothing shelter. A plane ticket to the main land could be tax deductible a couple of times a year so when you visit family, do some business main shore. Think I will buy a lottery ticket tonight, the weather is getting down right cold up here and memories of when I lived in Honolulu are coming in fast and furious. Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051120/e521890f/attachment-0001.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Nov 20 08:58:07 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Nov 20 08:58:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Automatic mousetraps In-Reply-To: <78.7f9dcf09.30b1c982@aol.com> Message-ID: <00cd01c5edeb$33467480$d0c5bc41@mikey> > Vesta writes: > Interesting idea, but, can the trap tell what is a mouse? Lost or > wandering gerbils, hamsters, kittens, young ferrets and the like could > be in big trouble.?? Oh yes, my Automatic Mousetrap does indeed have Identify Friend or Foe software, but its furry logic system occasionally errs. They are programmed for small rodents, birds and snakes, so hamsters, gerbils, squirrels, etc. are considered fair game, but kittens and puppies are absolutely safe. Errors in the furry logic mean that the occasional rabbit or opossum may be caught. ? > I have yet to find anything better then my cat at catching mice, > chipmunks, garden snakes etc.?? You will find my Automatic Mousetraps to be the equal of any cat! ? > Had an idea a few years back having to do with rats.?? Some city sewer > rats get to be the size of a big cat. What are they good for, what > use or service do they do for mankind? ? > One day I was at the mall when the Petra folks came out in force. > Amongst all the T-shirts of save the whale, and every other?species > you could think of, I saw one kid, a smart mouth punk wearing a shirt > that he had written on that? said "Save the rat". Oh Yes! PETA! I am a member of PETA- People Eating Tasty Animals. Our motto, "There is room for all God?s creatures- RIGHT BESIDE THE POTATOES!" ? > I kind of put two and two together and taa-daa, I began to think > about rat fur or hide. The hide and fur are water proof, strong, > would wear like iron. ? > Proper curing of the hide would give a leather soft as a baby's butt.? > It could be used for furniture, clothing, shoes, purses, briefcases, > anything hide is used for. > The idea of running a rat farm repels me since there are 5 million + > rats in the big cities.? So, lets put the kids, street gangs, homeless, > anyone really who wants an extra buck to work. We put a bounty on the > rats. Baby rats get the most, you turn in a litter of baby rats and > get 15.00.?? Up to 2 lbs you get 12.00 each. any rat over 2 lbs you > are paid 10 bucks. ? Excellent idea! We ought to make a prototype rathide coat, and see if we can sell Wal-Mart on the idea! This is ONE garment guaranteed to be Made in the USA, likely New York City, as the Chinese and other Asians use their rats for food. > I like the idea of Rat Fur much better then raising Nague for their hide. Naugas are such sweet animals! It's a shame to slaughter them for their hides! -Mike From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Nov 20 13:05:51 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Nov 20 13:06:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] About them Naguas Message-ID: <96.33b602b1.30b2311f@aol.com> How not to raise a Nagua. Had a neighbor when I lived outside Groton Con. years ago. He had rented a home with a big empty barn in back of his house. We lived about 100 feet from the barn in a stable hands cabin. Neighbor had tried to raise rabbits for their pelt----didn't work out. He bought a milk cow and some goats, he had 2 years of shore duty so he could tend to the live stock himself. One day he met a guy who raised Naguas, the upkeep is low, they grow real fast and breed faster then the rabbits my neighbor had failed in raising. He came to my dad and asked if our family was interested in going half with him raising the beasties. Dad thought that would be fun, so they bought a breading pair. Cages were brought into the barn with tons of cat food, they love that. A watering system was devised--all we had to do was sit back and let nature take its course. After 3 months nothing had happened except the pair kept getting bigger and bigger. They had come to us at about 20 lbs. and were 60 lbs. at least. Big as a young hog, not so cute, actually getting down right fuggly ugly. Another month went by and we realized the sow or whatever was pregnant. 6 weeks later she delivered a litter of 14. Such excitement, we bought new cages, extended the water system and watched them grow. We became concerned that the parents were now at 200 lbs. they and their babys were eating a couple hundred pounds of cat food a week. In the next 6 months the little ones grew up and now there more, we were going broke feeding them and we could not find anyone that wanted to buy our stock. There was one really annoying thing that they did, these dudes were like Parrots, they mimic what they hear. We could never have a radio around them or even speak---they would spend the whole night chanting in unison what they had heard. How could we sleep? One day I brought a radio into the barn and we all were kept awake till sun up by 125 Naugas singing Elvis, and cussing, like a berserk church choir. One night the parents got loose, they were now at 250 lbs and a tad bit mean. They couldn't get out of the barn but they let the others out of their cages . The goats and cow turned up missing, lots of blood but not even one bone to be found. Not much else to tell, Mom kept me in the house so I don't know what happened but I heard a lot of gun fire, screams and somehow the barn caught fire. You know you don't see much of Nagua hide anymore. It was real popular for a time, everyone had a sofa or chair made from them. I guess they were just too much trouble to raise. I will be off line for a week or so, got to get my pc to a doctor to replace what I in all my wisdom removed, ARGGGGG. Take care folks, Happy Thanksgiving Regards Vesta The most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to FACTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051120/35c7aecc/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 20 13:24:14 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 20 13:24:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] lotts of ideas In-Reply-To: <267.11b45e.30b1ebae@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Nov 20, 2005 10:09:34 AM Message-ID: <20051120202415.88888.qmail@mall-net.com> > n.3 You want the vessel to be a fun thing, (ie) you hate to sleep since > you can't wait to see what each new day will bring. Fun would be nice. m acceptable[table occupation would be acceptable. > I would have the entire ships deck stripped excepting the bridge house. > There would be a complete refit from hull scraping to engines, pumps, pipes and > tanks newly lagged, clothed out and mudded---not in that order naturally. No Money! No Time! Trump: The Apprentice. Buy boat, hire skipper, make money fast. While trying to make money fast, put boat up for sale so that if money not fast, sale fast, losses to investors minimal. > While this is going on, say 6 months, I would live at the Coastguard station > taking lessons in navigation and what not to get my skippers licence for a > vessel over 80 feet. Can't do nothing without that licence. I would spend > hours a day in the bilges learning everything I could about repairing and > maintaining the propulsion systems, wiring and the stand by batteries. Learn from skipper and at times during and between making money fast. Take tests multiple times. Knowing me (consultant) take test before cracking books open just to see what kind of score I get. Who knows, I might even pass. > About the time I put the boat in refit before I do any of the above I would > head for Maine Maritime Academy and recruit a couple of juniors to spend their > summer vacation aboard the ship. Hmmm. Cheap Skippers... > Here I am now, got the boat, got my licence, got a crew, where in hell and > what do and where do I go now??? Why, the big island of Hawaii, where > else can one live in comfort all year not too cold, not too hot. Investors not tooo happy about boat that far away, I think. Also, in areas like that, boats are a lot more common than, say, Alaska. Hadn't really thought of Hawaii because of mold allergies. Cold air would seem better than hot air. Spent one year in Florida. HATED IT!!! Mold, mold, mold, heat, mold, heat, ,heat, heat, mold and more of the same. > Now, there are two ways I can go here. I can outfit the deck along the > lines of a Head Boat, that takes people fishing for the day. Or, I could put Tiki > huts on the deck and take divers out for a week or more. Could transport > people from island to island as well as goods, non perishable items. Believe it > or not there is a pretty penny to be made in the transporting live stock > from island to island out there. Interesting idea. But trip to Hawaii must be paid for somehow. Lots of fuel on that trip! > Don't need a big crew, the Academy guys would go home after I reached > Honolulu and hire a couple of locals that have worked the waters there enough to > know the best routes to take, who to bribe when seeking a port pass, you know, > you got to get to know the bad fellows first. I don't want to be used by the > drug runners so must be very careful who I will do business with. I expect > there would be times when I would have to turn a blind eye to some things, but > in the most part I would get to know the Commandant of every Coastguard > station on all islands, the chief of police in every port. Interesting. Question is how to do that. As to blind eye, that often leads to fear, which robs one of the will to seek out and use opportunities. > One other thing, because I am me, I have family on the big Island. Their > family settled there in the 1800eds. they run a big charter boat business. My If you could make a few queries... Heck, I don't even know what questions to ask! Which is about the state that I enter any project. By the end, everyone looks at me as the expert because of what I accomplished. I listen to people, figure out what questions are important, and solve the harder ones first so that they may set the direction/tone/architecture of the project. Most idiots do the easy parts first, then can't fit them together when the hard parts turn out differently.. > For me, I have an "in" there, for you, well, you would have to survive with > no connections other then what you ,,yourself could make. Being in port of > call you would meet the dregs of the earth, the Saints of the Sea and just > every day people. You would have to sort them out. > > After paying off operating expenses you may find you net 10,000 a year. Not Inadequate. > Think I will buy a lottery ticket tonight, the weather is getting down right > cold up here and memories of when I lived in Honolulu are coming in fast and > furious. I take it you are interested in being investor/crew. Number should end in 18. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Nov 20 13:42:51 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Nov 20 13:42:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] About them Naguas In-Reply-To: <96.33b602b1.30b2311f@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Nov 20, 2005 03:05:51 PM Message-ID: <20051120204251.653.qmail@mall-net.com> > How not to raise a Nagua. > > > Had a neighbor when I lived outside Groton Con. years ago. He had rented a > home with a big empty barn in back of his house. We lived about 100 feet from > the barn in a stable hands cabin. > He came to my dad and asked if our family was interested in going half with > him raising the beasties. Dad thought that would be fun, so they bought a > breading pair. Cages were brought into the barn with tons of cat food, they > love that. A watering system was devised--all we had to do was sit back and > let nature take its course. Was this guy named Brother Julius? I met him once. Heavy set fellow, obviously not too swift, relying on the word of God to speak for him and to heal those afflicted with ailments having substantial psychosomatic components. Some time later, Brother Julius bought the Naugatuck Rubber factory in Naugatuck. After some time trying to raise Naugas with his flock of brain dead followers. I was working a project for ITT's Advanced Technology Center in the Shelton (I think), circa 1980. While driving north on Route 6 one night, I heard of a major fire in the area. He had torched the place. A guard died. They figured out that he committed fraud from the git go and never intended to run the factory. He was convicted of murder, arson, and various other crimes and put away along with some of his co-horts and henchmen. > There was one really annoying thing that they did, these dudes were like > Parrots, they mimic what they hear. We could never have a radio around > them or even speak---they would spend the whole night chanting in unison what > they had heard. How could we sleep? One day I brought a radio into the barn > and we all were kept awake till sun up by 125 Naugas singing Elvis, and > cussing, like a berserk church choir. Sounds like Brother Julius's brain dead followers. Or maybe Brother Julius himself. He was a bit fat. > I will be off line for a week or so, got to get my pc to a doctor to replace > what I in all my wisdom removed, ARGGGGG. Linux! http://www.CheapBytes.com Probably under $10. Worth ten to a hundred times that! --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Nov 20 18:04:22 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Nov 20 18:04:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The best photocell yet! Message-ID: <00f101c5ee37$826d72b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Illuminating Water Oxidation Elusive state in photosynthetic oxygen production is observed spectroscopically Stu Borman in _Chemical and Engineering News_, 11/14/2005, Vol. 83, No. 46, p. 14 One of the elusive secrets of photosynthesis, the biological process that makes life on Earth possible, has been uncovered. Researchers have observed an oxidation state involved in generating oxygen. The work could lead to better ways to convert sunlight into other forms of energy. In photosynthesis, water is oxidized to molecular oxygen, the source of the O2 we breathe and the atmospheric ozone that protects us from ultraviolet radiation. The electrons liberated are then used to synthesize carbohydrates, the source of food we eat. The process is carried out with nearly 100% efficiency and no toxic by-products in photosystem II, a multisubunit protein complex found in photosynthetic organisms. The catalytic center of photosystem II is a tetramanganese cluster coupled to a redox-active tyrosine residue called YZ. In the water oxidation process, four successive photons of light induce photosystem II to traverse five oxidation states, S0 through S4. S0 to S3 had been observed spectroscopically, but not S4. It wasn't known if S4 is just a fleeting transition state or a more long-lived intermediate. Also, because O2 formation starts at the S4 state, the actual mechanism of O2 generation was not known. Now, Michael Haumann, Holger Dau, and coworkers in the department of physics at the Free University of Berlin have observed S4 by using high-intensity, time-resolved X-ray absorption spectroscopy (Science 2005, 310, 1019). It's an intermediate. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i46/8346notw6.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Nov 20 18:26:08 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Nov 20 18:26:19 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Natural Relaxant Message-ID: <00f401c5ee3a$8d2e41e0$d0c5bc41@mikey> CUPPA KAVA A bowl of the muddy-looking beverage awaits a thirsty customer. Kava Traditional Polynesian beverage relaxes some, but its appearance and bitter taste gross out others By Rachel Sheremeta Pepling C&E News, 11/14/2005 During a trip last year to Hawaii's Big Island, I ventured to the Kanaka Kava outdoor caf?, eager to try the famously relaxing cup of kava. I contemplated a murky liquid served to me in a leaky coconut cup. The smell wasn't appealing either. My far braver husband downed half his cup before I even took a sip. A dive guide had warned me that it would taste bad, so I braced myself. But I didn't expect it to be so bitter that it made every one of my hairs stand on end. And I certainly didn't expect it to numb my tongue! Such was my first?and, quite possibly, my last?experience with kava. I never thought a relaxant could make me so tense. What exactly is this turpentine-smelling, bitter-tasting, muddy-water drink? Kava, found throughout the South Pacific, is the common name of the plant Piper methysticum and a member of the pepper family. In Hawaii, it's called ? 'awa.? Fijians know it as ?yaqona.? Samoans call it ?ava.? The term ?kava? is taken from the Tongans. In all of these cultures, kava has been used for ceremonial and social occasions. Essentially, the drink is ground-up kava root strained with fresh water and served in a coconut shell cup. Today, kava is gaining popularity as a natural relaxant. The active compounds responsible for the relaxing effect of kava are called kavalactones. These compounds, particularly kavain, affect the section of the brain that regulates fear and anxiety. Yadhu N. Singh, pharmaceutical sciences professor at South Dakota University, Brookings, and author of ?Kava: From Ethnology to Ethnopharmacology,? says kavalactones affect the brain through a variety of mechanisms, such as by blocking sodium or calcium channels and by activating -aminobutyric acid receptors. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/83/8346kava.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Nov 20 18:28:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Nov 20 18:29:00 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Contact Congress! Message-ID: <00f501c5ee3a$f0b86f60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Contact Congress! Marinda Li Wu, Chair, Committee on Economic & Professional Affairs C&E News, 11/14/2005 Our fall national meeting in Washington, D.C., reminded me of the importance for chemists to engage in more dialogue with our nation's policymakers. If we have an interest in the direction our country is heading in the 21st century-in terms of education, R&D, job growth and retraining, energy and environmental concerns, and global outreach, for example-we should not only take part in local and national elections, but also take the time to contact our legislators and engage in dialogue! Sure, it is easier to leave this to others. However, if each of us makes just one contact (via e-mail, letter, fax, phone, or in person) with a member of Congress, together, American Chemical Society members (almost 160,000 potential voices) could have an impact and help influence some of our legislators (especially if they are up for reelection). Obviously, if we can motivate even half of our members to act, we can have a powerful effect. This realization hit me clearly when I heard an inspiring success story delivered at the recent ACS Council meeting by James Mitchell, chair of the Committee on Chemistry & Public Affairs (CCPA). Thanks to the ACS Office of Legislative & Government Affairs (OLGA) for providing the following details: "ACS member Joe Hightower met with his congressman, Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) to discuss the importance of continued funding for the National Science Foundation. Culberson is a member of the influential House Appropriations Committee. Joe outlined for Rep. Culberson the importance of defending federal funding for NSF and the important work it supports in the scientific community. Armed with this information from ACS, Culberson returned to Washington, D.C., and was on the floor of the House two weeks later speaking in support of continued funding for NSF and the important work they make possible." http://pubs.acs.org/cen/acsnews/83/8346acscomment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 21 18:54:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Nov 21 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA. Message-ID: <20051122015426.48852.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> I AM SO FRUSTRATED AT THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, OVERZONED AND OVERATAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM, THIRD WORD (TURD WORLD) COUNTRY STYLE SLUM TOWN, THAT I FOUND SOME HISTORICAL DIRT TO PASS ALONG TO SHOW: http://rwor.org/a/v21/1040-049/1043/tulsa.htm http://www.tulsareparations.org/HistoryNoFences.htm MAD, PISSED OFF, FRUSTRATED AS HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF, ETC....; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051121/b4a94fe9/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Nov 22 00:36:31 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Nov 22 00:36:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Virus Alert -- it's not you! Message-ID: <20051122073631.55559.qmail@mall-net.com> Today, some of my domains have gotten perhaps a hundred e-mails from the "CIA" and the "FBI" regarding visiting "illegal" web sites. If you too get them, Don't get paranoid. This is a new virus going around. The folks at the FBI and CIA could care less what web sites you or I look at. Do not open the questions attachment. Just delete it. See: http://www.intuitive.com/blog/fbi_you_visit_illegal_websites_spam_virus.html This hasn't made Snopes yet, and is not yet in all the virus scanners, but it soon will be. Do make sure your virus scanner updates at least daily. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Nov 22 12:32:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Nov 22 12:33:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OWWWCH!! Message-ID: <006101c5ef9b$8a7cef20$d0c5bc41@mikey> "Now hold still Sony, this is gonna hurt you more than it hurts me!" -Texas attorney general Greg Abbott $100,000 PER VIOLATION! YESSS!!! I hope at least ten thousand Texans were infected with the rootkit. Way to GO, Texas! Hit them right in the wallet! HARD! Sony forked up when they distributed that rootkit, they knew they were forking up when they did it, and they forked up a bunch of innocent customers' computers in the process. NOW our good friends in Texas say, "Bend over Sony, it's time for YOU to be forked!" Gads! What fun it will be to watch them squirm when Texas rams it up their @$$, and they Squeal Like A Pig! Shall we start a pool on when Sony USA files for Chapter Eleven protection? -Mike >From _The Hollywood Reporter_, 11/22/2005 Sony BMG sued over CD spyware By Chris Marlowe Sony BMG has legal troubles beyond its battles against piracy. The state of Texas and consumer activist group Electronic Frontier Foundation filed lawsuits Monday against the company, alleging that Sony BMG's copy-protected CDs violate laws against spyware and make computers vulnerable to attack. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said it was the first lawsuit filed under the state's Consumer Protection Against Computer Spyware Act of 2005. He accused Sony BMG of installing files on consumers' computers without their owners' knowledge and which hide other files installed by Sony. The state is seeking civil penalties of $100,000 for each violation of the law, attorneys' fees and investigative costs. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001 526096 or: http://snipurl.com/k564 From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 15:58:33 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 15:58:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA. Message-ID: <20051122225833.57511.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA: I AM SO FRUSTRATED AT THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIALIZED WASTELAND SLUM, THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE SLUM TOWN, THAT I FOUND SOME HISTORICAL DIRT TO PASS ALONG TO SHOW: http://rwor.org/a/v21/1040-049/1043/tulsa.htm http://www.tulsareparations.org/HistoryNoFences.htm MAD, PISSED OFF, FLUSTERED AND FRUSTRATED AS HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF, ETC. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/241c6f69/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:03:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:03:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! Message-ID: <20051122230326.21883.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> PRISON..! THE WEBLINK: http://www.cityoftulsa.org/ ..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/d0fad6a9/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Nov 22 16:05:27 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:05:34 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA. In-Reply-To: <20051122225833.57511.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 22, 2005 02:58:33 PM Message-ID: <20051122230528.69210.qmail@mall-net.com> > > HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA: > > I AM SO FRUSTRATED AT THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED, > FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND > SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, OVERZONED AND So, go elsewhere! There's a whole world out there for you to look at! Canada, New Zealand, Australia, even the Outback with all the Aborigines. > OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIALIZED > WASTELAND SLUM, THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE SLUM Well, a lot of people disagree with your view or Tulsa would be just about empty. As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. Are you looking for an excuse? Or do you want to get something done, something that makes you a known honorable personage? A Mad Scientist who Made IT! It's up to YOU, Clyde. You are making yourself whom you are. And you do that by deciding what you will spend time on. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:09:28 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:09:32 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: PRISON..! Message-ID: <20051122230928.56126.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE SHITTY OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE SLUM OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE SLUMMY OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE WASTELAND OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE SHITHOLE OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE PRISON OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT: THE INDUSTRIAL(IZED) SLUM OF TULSA? IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO CALL IT THE INDUSTRIALI(ZED) WASTELAND OF TULSA? OR IS IT ACCURATE TO CALL IT ALL OF THE ABOVE???? clyde lofton wrote: PRISON..! THE WEBLINK: http://www.cityoftulsa.org/ ..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/249af86e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:20:59 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:21:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA. In-Reply-To: <20051122230528.69210.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA: > > I AM SO FRUSTRATED AT THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED, > FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND > SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, OVERZONED AND So, go elsewhere! There's a whole world out there for you to look at! Canada, New Zealand, Australia, even the Outback with all the Aborigines. > OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIALIZED > WASTELAND SLUM, THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STYLE SLUM Well, a lot of people disagree with your view or Tulsa would be just about empty. ACTUALLY TULSA IS..! GOING EMPTY..! SO MANY PEOPLE HATE THIS CURSED TOWN. As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO TILL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAINDEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREAHING IS STILL POSSIBLE. THE PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND HERE, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT, AND FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET, FROM THE ENDLESS STUPID PEOPLE: FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE. Are you looking for an excuse? NO..! Or do you want to get something done, YES..! something that makes you a known honorable personage? YES..! A Mad Scientist who Made IT! YES..! It's up to YOU, Clyde. You are making yourself whom you are. And you do that by deciding what you will spend time on. OK; TULSA IS A VERY NEGATIVE PLACE FOR ME TO BE, NOW THAT I HAVE ARRIVED AT THAT REALIZATION..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/25b2d932/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:30:27 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:30:51 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233027.11947.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/075d8325/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:34:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233419.8691.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/466db540/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:23 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:34:31 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233423.77943.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/3fab0295/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:30 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:34:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233430.46298.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/e18c8612/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:34:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233427.46288.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/b73b7291/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:33 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:34:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233433.36681.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/6683600a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 22 16:34:59 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:35:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVISED FROM LAST POSTING. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051122233459.98689.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: clyde lofton wrote: As I said, look for something positive, and you'll find it. I HAVE FOUND ONE POSITIVE PLACE, AMIDST ALL OF THE CEASELESS STUPIDITY, OF THIS FOREVER GO IN CIRCLES IN VERTIGO UNTIL DEATH, INDUSTRIALIZED NEGATIVE ENERGY IN THE AIR EVERYWHERE, BRAIN DEATH INDUCING INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM WASTELAND.... THERE IS A PLACE WHERE NATURAL BREATHING IS STILL POSSIBLE; THAT PLACE IS CALLED: REDBUD VALLEY; OUT IN EAST TULSA. THE ONLY PLACE REMAINING AROUND THIS EVER MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED TOWN, WHERE PEACE CAN STILL BE HAD, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE ENDLESS EVERLASTING NEGATIVE ENERGY..! But if you waste all your time complaining, you'll accomplish nothing. ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WHAT I AM ENDLESSLY STRESSED OUT ABOUT; FROM THE ENDLESS INTERFERENCE THAT I GET FROM STUPID FAMILY AND CERTAIN STUPID NEIGHBORS..! THIS SHITHOLE, WHERE THE SHYTSTEM IS STACKED AGAINST EVERYONE FOR MASS SCALE BRAIN DEATH AND MASS SCALE FAILURE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051122/127d7f3b/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Nov 22 16:37:04 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Nov 22 16:37:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) HISTORICAL DIRT ON TULSA OKLAHOMA. In-Reply-To: <20051122232059.28308.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 22, 2005 03:20:59 PM Message-ID: <20051122233704.87568.qmail@mall-net.com> > > It's up to YOU, Clyde. You are making yourself whom you are. And > you do that by deciding what you will spend time on. > > OK; TULSA IS A VERY NEGATIVE PLACE FOR ME TO BE, NOW > THAT I HAVE ARRIVED AT THAT REALIZATION..! So, go somewhere else. Or as I did time and time again when stuck in some big city, ignore it and just do what you find fascinating and productive. Yourt room has four walls. No one is looking over the walls to see what you do. You can build an atom smasher, a force atomic microscope, a geological or electromagnetic monitor, or whatever else fits in that room and does not harm you or others. It's your room. But if you chose to focus on what others think about you, or on how bad this place is, or whatever else, you will spend your finite time on that instead of what you want to do. Spend your time wisely, and you will be more satisfied with yourself. Because ultimately, your paying so much attention to the failings of What you do is up to you. You are making that decision. Clyde, I could rail on and on about the drunks and skunks up here, about generator, about solar, about the idiots who try to keep us from building here, etc. etc. etc. What would that accomplish? Nothing, because the rest of the people on this list don't vote here, and don't really care about where I live. And what time I do have, I go out with my camera snd look for things that are beautiful and satisfying to photograph. Why waste your time on things you can't change? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Nov 22 21:45:01 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Nov 22 21:45:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] American innovation in decline Message-ID: <00a901c5efe8$ab9902f0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Headline: "GM to idle 30,000 workers" Headline: "Honda Civic wins 2006 Motor Trend Car of the Year." While the corporation that was once Number One in the Fortune 500 continues to swim in red ink, closing plants and idling workers in a futile attempt to stay afloat, a Japanese automobile manufacturer claims the Golden Caliper- the highest and most prestigious award for automotive design excellence! WTF is wrong with us? WE, the USA, created the automotive industry! Yes, Ransom Ely Olds, the oldest carmaker in the USA... oops, I forgot that GM killed Oldsmobile a few years ago... Let me try again... WTF is wrong with us? We, the USA, created the economies of scale, through mass production, that enabled Everyman to afford... oops again; I guess China is doing that now, through Wal-Mart. One more time... WTF is wrong with us? We the USA, inventors of the transistor, integrated circuit and Microsoft Windows... Dammit, I give up. This rant just isn't coming together. -Mike From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Nov 24 21:34:57 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Nov 24 21:35:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Only smart children left behind? Message-ID: <01bc01c5f179$99ee1120$d0c5bc41@mikey> Ever since the Court ordered busing to integrate public schools, we have seen a continual decline in the academic performance of American children in public schools. Japan, Hong Kong, and China all exceed the USA in the academic performance of their schoolchildren. The reason is readily apparent to anyone, like me, who suffered through integration. I was one of those "gifted" students. But the classroom environment was geared to the slowest pupil; I was denied a proper education. I was bored stiff in the classroom. However, since my skin color was politically incorrect, there were no "special education" courses I could avail myself of. I was racially discriminated against in the worst possible way- I was denied education! Further, I had no Jessie Jackson to take the soapbox for me- in fact, he APPROVED of denying me my education! "No Child Left Behind" is a ludicrous farce! The mission of this act is to drag down the geniuses to the level of the idiots. It is nothing more or less than a continuation of our failed Public Education system, a system that values inculcating children with "Political Correctness" more than teaching them how to learn and excel. It is high time we wake up and smell the coffee! All students cannot, and must not, be force-fitted into the same Government mold! There is no reason that academic excellence should be reviled! Why are so many xenophobic of intelligence, but approve of some ignorant hunk of lard on the gridiron who makes a million dollars per year? Football will not make America a winning player in the global marker, but smart kids will. Here is what Britain has learned. -Mike _The Times_, London, November 25, 2005 Brightest are failed by state schools By Tony Halpin, Education Editor THE educational apartheid dividing state and independent schools was laid bare yesterday by new research into the achievements of bright children. The most able children are only half as likely to achieve top grades at A level in state schools as they are in the fee-paying sector, a government adviser told head teachers. Pupils in private schools who were among the country's brightest 5 per cent at age 11 were virtually certain to get three A grades in their A levels at 18, putting them in contention for places at Oxford and Cambridge. But only a third of the most able 5 per cent went on to achieve the same results in state schools. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1890398,00.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Nov 25 12:29:04 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Nov 25 12:29:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The High Cost of Low Prices- Always Message-ID: <01ed01c5f1f6$804ac600$d0c5bc41@mikey> Or- What Your Dollar Spent at Wal-Mart Really Buys! There is a reason that Chinese goods are less expensive than anyone else's. Here is part of the reason: You see, when calculating cost, Western nations must factor the cost of human life and the environment, and their protection, into the price for their goods. As the Chinese value human life at zero cost, and care not a whit for protecting the environment, this does not enter into their pricing computations. Below is another predictable result of this flawed business model. -MB --------- Chemical spill in Chinese river may pose cancer risk 18:51 25 November 2005 NewScientist.com news service By Shaoni Bhattacharya Exposure to benzene and nitrobenzene from a toxic chemical spill into a river in China could put people at risk of cancer and bone marrow problems, an expert warns. But depriving the 9 million people of water in the region around the city of Harbin, sited on the banks of the polluted river, also creates the danger of ill health by putting elderly people and young children at serious risk of dehydration. A chemical spill of about 100 tonnes of pollutants flooded into the Songhua River on 13 November after an explosion at the chemical plant of the Jilin Petrochemical Company, owned by the China National Petroleum Corporation. The toxic spill has forced cities along the river's banks to stop taking water. The city of Harbin has 4 million residents in its urban area and stopped drawing water on Wednesday. It is not likely to start again before Saturday, when it is hoped that the pollution will have passed downstream. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8379&feedId=online-news_rss20 or: http://snipurl.com/k8as From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:09:54 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:10:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL: KORN..! Message-ID: <20051125200954.92744.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL; BY KORN: http://www.lyricsdemon.com/lyrics.php?songid=75963 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lot's of someone's, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/e8ffc7d4/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:14:40 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:14:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA TIME LYRICS; ERIC CLAPTON..! Message-ID: <20051125201440.22425.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> TULSA TIME LYRICS: http://www.bluesforpeace.com/lyrics/tulsa-time.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/bbee7eef/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:21:41 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:22:00 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY; AND; ALSUMA UNION TULSA HISTORY.... Message-ID: <20051125202141.1626.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> SEARCH ENGINE TOPICS: ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa/cities/alsuma.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbhs/area/postoffice.htm ALSUMA UNION TULSA HISTORY: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa/cities.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/1d71c893/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Nov 25 13:26:32 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:26:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY; AND; In-Reply-To: <20051125202141.1626.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 25, 2005 12:21:41 PM Message-ID: <20051125202632.74850.qmail@mall-net.com> > SEARCH ENGINE TOPICS: > > ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY: Clyde, do you want to spend all your time researching what you hate, or what you love? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:31:47 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:31:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY. Message-ID: <20051125203148.17255.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa/cities/alsuma.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/89b753ce/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:35:01 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:35:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY; AND; In-Reply-To: <20051125202632.74850.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20051125203501.83326.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Clyde, do you want to spend all your time researching what you hate, or what you love? MY LIFE IS OUT OF LOVE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/cb04f34a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 13:39:04 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Nov 25 13:39:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE-REVISED: ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY. In-Reply-To: <20051125203148.17255.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051125203904.10039.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote: RE-REVISED/ AFTER THE FUCKED UP WEB ADDRESS: SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2/cities/alsuma.htm Mad-Scientists mailing list: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051125/2ce11cb8/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Nov 25 14:16:05 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Nov 25 14:16:12 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALSUMA TULSA HISTORY; AND; In-Reply-To: <20051125203501.83326.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 25, 2005 12:35:01 PM Message-ID: <20051125211605.30554.qmail@mall-net.com> > Clyde, do you want to spend all your time researching what you hate, > or what you love? > > MY LIFE IS OUT OF LOVE..! that's why I keep telling you to go out there and look for nice things to photograph. You need to reprogram your mind to look for the nice and the beautiful, then you will find what to love.\ -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 28 11:00:05 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 28 11:00:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Bees CAN fly, after all! Message-ID: <002b01c5f445$90b7c2d0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Secrets of bee flight revealed 16:57 28 November 2005 NewScientist.com news service Helen Phillips Combining robotic modelling with slow-motion videos of airborne honeybees may have helped researchers explain the curious aerodynamics of bee flight. Aeronautical engineers had previously "proven" that bees cannot fly. So Michael Dickinson, an insect flight expert and colleagues at Caltech in Pasadena, California, US, decided to investigate the forces actually at work during honeybee flight. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8382&feedId=online-news_rss20 or http://snipurl.com/kasx From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Nov 28 11:39:34 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Nov 28 11:39:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Bees CAN fly, after all! In-Reply-To: <002b01c5f445$90b7c2d0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 28, 2005 01:00:05 PM Message-ID: <20051128183935.2112.qmail@mall-net.com> > Aeronautical engineers had previously "proven" that bees cannot fly. So is that why they've been so upset at us? Can't say that I blame them. Also on New Scientist today, something far more dastardly! Some computer science students, using a video camera to monitor finger movements, have threatened to unleash a program to turn strumming on an invisible "air guitar" into a real noisemaking instrument. Not only are these studenten mad, they msut be elimiated before der clashing rock musiken ist taken up by der masses. Or ve vill all be deaf! http://www.NewScientist.com/news.ns/ -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 28 12:13:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Nov 28 12:14:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Bees CAN fly, after all! In-Reply-To: <002b01c5f445$90b7c2d0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20051128191319.10998.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> COOL MAN; MY FATHER USED TO BE A BEEKEEPER WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. THE AERODYNAMICS OF BEE FLIGHT; A VERY COOL SUBJECT..! LATER; CLYDE Michael Best wrote: Secrets of bee flight revealed 16:57 28 November 2005 NewScientist.com news service Helen Phillips Combining robotic modelling with slow-motion videos of airborne honeybees may have helped researchers explain the curious aerodynamics of bee flight. Aeronautical engineers had previously "proven" that bees cannot fly. So Michael Dickinson, an insect flight expert and colleagues at Caltech in Pasadena, California, US, decided to investigate the forces actually at work during honeybee flight. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8382&feedId=online-news_rss20 --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051128/069694bc/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 28 17:24:11 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Nov 28 17:24:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] C&E News links, 11/28/2005 Message-ID: <003c01c5f47b$38ef2a80$d0c5bc41@mikey> DuPont Accused of Inaction On Fluorochemical Former employee says firm failed to address exposure to compound that breaks down into PFOA http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i47/8347DuPont.html DuPont Plans Large Pigments Complex Alex Tullo DuPont has hammered out an outline with Chinese authorities for the company?s largest investment ever outside the U.S.?a titanium dioxide complex in China expected eventually to cost $1 billion. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i48/8348notw5.html Chemical Makers Seek Relief Industry wants Congress to end drilling restrictions to increase natural gas supplies GLENN HESS A top chemical industry official urged Congress on Nov. 17 to lift the generation-old moratorium on natural gas production along the U.S.?s outer continental shelf, warning that the consequences of insufficient supplies will soon become ?painfully clear? to all U.S. consumers. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i47/8347industry.html Ice Core Record Extended Analyses of trapped air show current CO2 at highest level in 650,000 years Bette Hileman Courtesy of Laurent Augustin/Laboratoire de Glaciologie et G?ophysique de l'Environnement Icy Depths Drill head and ice core from a depth of 2,874 meters at Dome C Station in East Antarctica. This core is about 491,000 years old. The entire 3,270-meter ice core drilled at Dome C contains a continuous record of greenhouse gases for the past 650,000 years. Ice cores drilled at vostok Station in East Antarctica provide evidence of Earth's temperatures and greenhouse gases for the past 440,000 years. Now, data from a new ice core called EPICA Dome C, drilled roughly 600 miles from Vostok, extends that record back another 210,000 years. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i48/8348notw1.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Nov 28 17:46:16 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Nov 28 17:46:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] C&E News links, 11/28/2005 In-Reply-To: <003c01c5f47b$38ef2a80$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Nov 28, 2005 07:24:11 PM Message-ID: <20051129004617.71436.qmail@mall-net.com> > DuPont Plans Large Pigments Complex > Alex Tullo > DuPont has hammered out an outline with Chinese authorities for the > company=92s largest investment ever outside the U.S.=97a titanium = > dioxide > complex in China expected eventually to cost $1 billion. > http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i48/8348notw5.html What is the strength of any nation? Is it not the nation's economy? Is a nation's economy not dependent upon the nation's ability to manufacture, to create the physical trappings of wealth (the homes, foods, and energy we associate with wealth), and the means to attain them (the manufacture of tools, etc.)? Is this not therefore a form of treason, or at the very least very unpatriotic action, to diminish America's ability to generate such wealth? > Chemical Makers Seek Relief > Industry wants Congress to end drilling restrictions to increase natural = > gas > supplies=20 > GLENN HESS=20 > A top chemical industry official urged Congress on Nov. 17 to lift the > generation-old moratorium on natural gas production along the U.S.=92s = > outer continental shelf, warning that the consequences of insufficient = > supplies will soon become =93painfully clear=94 to all U.S. consumers. > http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i47/8347industry.html Well... what's the alternative? America is dependent upon energy! We spend immense monies, which we borrow, in buying energy abroad. Is it not wiser to gain it here? > Ice Core Record Extended > Analyses of trapped air show current CO2 at highest level in 650,000 years > Bette Hileman > Courtesy of Laurent Augustin/Laboratoire de Glaciologie et G=E9ophysique > de l'Environnement=20 > > Icy Depths Drill head and ice core from a depth of 2,874 meters at Dome > C Station in East Antarctica. This core is about 491,000 years old. The > entire > 3,270-meter ice core drilled at Dome C contains a continuous record of > greenhouse gases for the past 650,000 years. And what we see, is a rapid variation of CO2 levels up and down as the ice age cycles progressed. Our spike today is less in size than some before. However, it is on top of already high levels... There is also some suggestion that we are not at the end of the interglacial, but that it might persist another 15,000 - 20,000 years. > http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i48/8348notw1.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 30 14:08:32 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 30 14:08:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UN-AMERICAN..! Message-ID: <20051130210832.5349.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> UN-AMERICAN: 1. SEXUAL SLAVERY..! ; 2. FINANCIAL SLAVERY..! ; 3. DRUG SLAVERY..! ; 4. ENERGY SLAVERY..! ; AND; 5. ANTI REAL ESTATE-SLAVERY..! ; ARE ALL: UN-AMERICAN..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051130/30572285/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 30 14:08:06 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 30 14:09:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EVERLASTING PEACE: FOREVER..! Message-ID: <20051130210806.10752.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> EVERLASTING PEACE: FOREVER..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051130/245bc507/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Nov 30 16:47:43 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Nov 30 16:47:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA..! Message-ID: <20051130234744.70265.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> TULSA OKLAHOMA: OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20051130/7e14227e/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Nov 30 17:23:39 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Nov 30 17:23:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA..! In-Reply-To: <20051130234744.70265.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Nov 30, 2005 03:47:43 PM Message-ID: <20051201002339.1929.qmail@mall-net.com> > TULSA OKLAHOMA: > > OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..! There you go again, waisting your time, your life forces upon that which you are unlikely to change. What great research or experimentation have you done which makes you outshine the dullards (presumably Tulsan dullards) around you? Come on, do something beyond the norms of Tulsa. Do something that may bring us all a better life with cheaper energy, greater power, longer life! Do not let the forces of dullness (or Tulsa-ness) drag you down to worthlessness. Arise! Think Great Thoughts! Or if you can't, then at least pick up a copy of "Anyway: The Pardocixal Commandments" for inspiration. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Nov 30 22:22:09 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Nov 30 22:22:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Wobble Glomming Message-ID: <006601c5f637$2f6f1390$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1898493,00.html I do love the math here! "Scientists have long predicted that melting ice caps could disrupt the currents that keep Britain at least 5C (40F) warmer than it should be." Since when does 5C=40F??? I've heard of Global Warming, but THIS is ridiculous! And the geography! "The Southampton team measured current flow across a latitude of 250N." Two hundred and fifty degrees North latitude? Where the fork is THIS? Mars? Maybe Southern Australia or Chile, if one keeps counting on one's way around the Globe! Oh well, I guess this is what happens when kneoliberal idiots only THINK they know Science. Give a fool a Macintosh with a word processor application, and just watch the fun! The kicker is that not only does the writer not know how stupid he looks, neither does his editor! And this is The London Times?!? Please leave the Science to us Mad Scientists, would you? This ludicrous crap makes me wonder if they have a hidden agenda to discredit then entire theory of Wobble Glomming! -Mike