From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 1 09:57:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 1 09:57:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH.... (WEBLINK.)
Message-ID: <20051001165710.46411.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH, PART 1.
THE BUSH FAMILY OLIGARCHY.
FUNDING THE HITLER PROJECT:
http://watch.pair.com/reich.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 1 10:21:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION (WEBLINKS).
Message-ID: <20051001172147.50484.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION (WEBLINKS):
1. http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap12/mjo.html
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden-Julian_oscillation
3. http://envam1.env.uea.ac.uk/mjo.html
THE YAHOO SEARCH ENGINE KEY WORDS ARE:
MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION.
NOTE: THERE ARE MANY OTHER WEBSITES
PERTAINING TO THE MADDEN-JULIAN
OSCILLATION THAT I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME
TO LIST.
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA U.S.A.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 1 11:21:44 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 1 11:21:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH.... (WEBLINK.)
In-Reply-To: <20051001165710.46411.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 01, 2005 09:57:10 AM
Message-ID: <20051001182144.9666.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH, PART 1.
> THE BUSH FAMILY OLIGARCHY.
> FUNDING THE HITLER PROJECT:
When Hitler came into power, he was a great orator, making him a
VERY popular leader. He was not, at that time, an evil person; slightly
daft, but not inherently evil. Power went to his head. He surrounded
himself with some other easily corruptible folks. Together, THEY saw
some opposition they really didn't like, and then it started. The
probes was dynamic feedback, much like in an amplifier oscillation, of
mild personality disorders amplifying and supporting each other. I
could draw parallels with Nixon. (Who wasn't that bad a guy either.)
What kept Nixon from becoming a Hitler, was the structure of the
American government being a lot better established.
You can draw parallels between Hitler and just about any other
President, especially Kennedy and Nixon. But the fact is, the social
and governmental dynamics don't support it advancing into anything
resembling a reich.
As to all this patriot act stuff, we've lived through this before
in WW-II and even in WW-I. Nixon too, had some things like this going
on. It didn't go.
Or maybe you want to look at the deaths and payoffs around Madame
Clinton. There's another powerful conspiracy-that-might-exist. Or
might not.
Early in my career, I had an opportunity to do a project for a
conspiracy buff, tracking relationships between powerful people in the
USA. I did a little bit of studying on this, comparing relationships
between the powerful, and the not so powerful. My conclusion was that a
lot of what this guy was spouting was the result of random chance driven
by shared values and interests.
Most of these powerful people had too many other things on their
plate, and too much to lose from getting involved in anything that
wasn't above the board. In other words, his conspiracies didn't stand
up to the broader set of facts. Yes, much of what he saw was true --
they did belong to the same societies, etc. But having lived in the
Washington area for a little while, there are so many lectures,
meetings, societies, etc. that you can find just about any relationship
you want! I mean, Tom Clancy and I attended the same war lectures at
the same war gaming conference. So What!!!
History is full of powerful families who "got it together" and did
something. And offspring who just didn't keep it going.
SO WHAT???
How does it affect you? How do all those conspiracies keep you
from functioning?
By distracting you from your goals!
No power where no belief! Indeed, most conspiracies DON'T exist!
Yet if you believe, you will be distracted and they will keep you from
succeeding just as badly as if they really did exist. Is that what you
want?
By talking about them a lot, you attract those who DO believe, who
ARE distracted, and don't believe you or they or anyone else has a hope
in hell of success. They are failures and always will be failures!
All they are doing, is looking for excuses NOT TO TRY! They don't want
the work, they don't want the risks it takes to succeed. My god, you
might get it wrong and fail. . They just want to drink their beer and
complain with others at how miserable life can be. Are these the role
models you want to emulate?
What else happens when you talk conspiracies, is that you drive
away smart people who believe in themselves. These are the people who
know things you should know, do things you might do well to look at,
maybe get involved in. They are the ones with contacts you should
accumulate, who see opportunities you should look at, etc. They are the
role models other successful people look at.
We attract the type of people interested in the things we talk
about. It's the number one way people get acquainted with other people.
The casual comment at work, the comments at the grocery line, the
cafeteria, library, etc.
So if you want to advance in the world, drop the conspiracy crap.
All it does, is get you involved with the wrong people and distract you
from the good things you can do with your life.
Listen to Dale Carnegie. Follow some of his ideas, and you'll get
a lot further. Maybe join Toastmasters or some other group like that.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 1 11:33:01 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 1 11:33:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION (WEBLINKS).
In-Reply-To: <20051001172147.50484.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 01, 2005 10:21:47 AM
Message-ID: <20051001183301.15991.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION (WEBLINKS):
So? So what's the relevance? Why should we find this
interesting that there is a 30 - 60 day cycle to weather?
>
> 1. http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap12/mjo.html
>
> 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden-Julian_oscillation
>
> 3. http://envam1.env.uea.ac.uk/mjo.html
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 1 12:41:10 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 1 12:41:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Talking clock
Message-ID: <000001c5c6c0$13eb85f0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
I hate to rain on your parade, Clyde, but your concept won't sell.
First, you are hung up on features, not benefits. The consumer doesn't give
a damn about all the fancy bells and whistles; he wants utility, a benefit
to himself.
Let's look at time sync. When I administered a ten-server local network,
time sync via NTP from Boulder was critical. A tenth of a second difference
between server clocks could wreak havoc with the disk mirroring and backup
routines.
However, the average man on the street is happy to be within five minutes of
the correct time! Anal retentive types like myself keep our clocks within
+- 1 second, but only so I can know EXACTLY how fashionably late I am for an
appointment! You must rethink the feature of atomic clock time sync into a
BENEFIT for the consumer! If you cannot demonstrate how millisecond
accuracy is a benefit to your target market, then this is absolutely
useless! It will sell nothing!
Further, why go to the expense of incorporating GPS receivers? Bragging
rights? You can just as easily, and at far less expense, simply receive the
WWV or CHU transmissions on a plethora of frequencies- 30kc, 60kc, 5mc,
7.335mc, 10mc, etc. For that matter, most broadcast TV stations now
transmit time sync signals on a subcarrier of their assigned channel.
Similar arguments apply to all the other features you mention.
Next- you seemingly fail to realize the 21st century marketing paradigm.
The way to sell a product is to make it inexpensive enough to be affordable
to those who previously could not own the product. This is how the Chinese
have destroyed American industry. Their quality is shit, but those that
cannot afford a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Chronograph can readily afford a
Chinese counterfeit Rolex! Their friends are duly impressed, and this is
the benefit that the consumer bought the watch for. So what if the gold
electroplate wears off, and the watch starts running backwards in only a
year? The $10,000 price for a genuine Rolex could buy several thousands of
year's worth of disposable Chinese counterfeits! Toss it when it quits, and
get another from China!
"American Quality" is as worthless today as teats on a boar hog. Granted,
there is a very small segment of the market that buys quality. However, the
vast majority of consumers don't give a tinker's damn about quality, all
they consider is price. THIS is how Wal-Mart became the world's largest
retailer- by selling shitty goods at a shitty price.
So what is your market? The one-tenth of one percent that buys quality; or
the 99.9% of the population that buys crap, fully expecting to toss it in
six months, and buy it again? If your answer is the one in a thousand who
buys quality, then you are doomed before you even get started.
See the Chinese method now? Produce a piece of crap imitation Rolex,
manufacturing cost $5. Sell ten million of these pieces of shit for $30,
and repeat every six months, as the watches fail. That's a half billion
dollars of profit per year! Meanwhile, the Swiss watchmaker sells a few
hundred $10,000 watches every year. Now who laughs his way to the bank NOW?
You are only deceiving yourself if you think you can sell an expensive,
high-quality product and make money. Rolls-Royce went broke, and is now
owned by Volkswagen! Mercedes-Benz uses Chrysler and Mitsubishi to
underwrite their high-quality line. And the Chinese are about to enter the
American auto market- so all bets there are off.
Here's the product you need- Forget the fancy GPS time sync, 99% of the
market doesn't care about that. Make a simple clock from a PLC chip,
suitably programmed for SALEABLE features (that can show benefits to the
consumer), add the cheap-shit voice synth chip used in greeting cards,
assemble it in China for $5, and sell it for $29.95, with $9.95
nonrefundable shipping and handling. Offer a refund of the $29.95 if not
satisfied. Add a 90-day replacement warranty if it fails. Notice that the
S&H covers costs, and provides a small profit. The $29.95 is gravy! The
warranty covers the shoddy workmanship of the Chinese, and still leaves a
profit. Hell, you can replace the item four times during the warranty
period, and STILL see a profit!
THIS is how marketing works today!
As for using your clock for ham radio repeaters- No dice! Any ham that can
build a repeater can take a box of junk computer parts and make a talking
clock for the repeater for nothing! WHY should a repeater owner, operating
at zero profit, spending his personal funds to build the machine, even
CONSIDER your $400 device- when he can create the same thing himself out of
the junkbox for free?
Here is the bottom line, Clyde: Edison was a stupid fool in the field of
technology, but perhaps the world's greatest marketer. Tesla was a stupid
fool at marketing, but perhaps the world's greatest technological genius.
To which man do we most owe our current technological society to? And which
man's life is required study in elementary school?
Tesla's brilliance changed technology. Edison's marketing made money. Add
a little P.T. Barnum to the Edison, and you will become rich beyond the
avarice of Midas.
Again, I'm sorry for raining on your parade, but I think you need to hear
this, and rethink your plans before wasting more resources on a pipe dream.
-Mike
From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 1 14:06:33 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 1 14:06:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Talking clock
In-Reply-To: <000001c5c6c0$13eb85f0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
01, 2005 03:41:10 PM
Message-ID: <20051001210633.96007.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I hate to rain on your parade, Clyde, but your concept won't sell.
>
> First, you are hung up on features, not benefits. The consumer doesn't =
> give a damn about all the fancy bells and whistles; he wants utility, a =
> benefit to himself.
The classical Dale Carnegie "Sales-burger" is
Feature -- the thing
benefit -- what the customer gets out of it
Trial close -- you do want this benefit, don't you?
Stack three or four of them on the tray, and then ask for the money.
> However, the average man on the street is happy to be within five =
> minutes of
> the correct time! Anal retentive types like myself keep our clocks =
> within
For $30, under, I can get a WWV synched wall clock. But I have to
look at it to tell the time, and I am not always there to do so.
Voice is a feature with a notable benefit -- always know. You don't
want to miss the time of your favorite TV show just because you forgot
to loo, do you?
Since clocks drift and need to be reset, any kind of sync has the
benefit of never having to reset your clock, even after power outages
and battery replacement. You don't want to have to tune in WWV or wait
for your local news station to announce the time just to fix your clock,
do you?
> appointment! You must rethink the feature of atomic clock time sync =
> into a BENEFIT for the consumer! If you cannot demonstrate how millisecond
> accuracy is a benefit to your target market, then this is absolutely
> useless! It will sell nothing!
It's a useless but free benefit of auto-synching to a time
standard.
> Further, why go to the expense of incorporating GPS receivers? Bragging
> rights? You can just as easily, and at far less expense, simply receive =
> the
> WWV or CHU transmissions on a plethora of frequencies- 30kc, 60kc, 5mc,
> 7.335mc, 10mc, etc. For that matter, most broadcast TV stations now
> transmit time sync signals on a subcarrier of their assigned channel.
Good point. The only reason would be for a portable timepiece.
Now, the other strategic piece is this: if your clock takes off,
what will the competition do? They will take a $0.50 chip and add it to
their device, be it Garmin adding that feature to a $120 talking GPS
receiver, Seiko adding it to their watch line, etc. And with a total
cost of FAR LESS than your $200 to $400.
Retail markup 40% was standard, might be 50% or higher in specialty
stores. $100 back into the pipeline Plus wholesalers take a cut, say
25%. You get $75 per clock. And maybe $20 per clock for advertising.
You've just had 10,000 clocks built, invested $50 in each, (Half a
million dollars) another $100 per clock in advertising (Total one and a
half million), and you are starting to roll with your first 500 in
targeted stores (ten in each state), and 100 already sold at a gross
sales return to you of $total loss And at this point, you have spent
ahead on advertising...
Then Seiko, Garmin, and some chepo chino junk hits the market.
They start showing up at Target, K-Mart, and maybe Wal-Mart.
Or far more likely, similar clocks are ALREADY sitting in the
stores, and those stores simply decide to advertise it to compete with
your advertising.
And sales tank... You're bankrupt.
Retailing a new product is a terrible, risky business. Which is
why most products being sold are modifications of other products sold
before them, not revolutions.
Not to mention that in many stores, you have to pay to get them to
display your product. Not just advertising compensations, I mean rent
shelf space from them for your product.
> Similar arguments apply to all the other features you mention.
> Next- you seemingly fail to realize the 21st century marketing paradigm.
> The way to sell a product is to make it inexpensive enough to be =
> affordable
> to those who previously could not own the product. This is how the =
> Chinese
> have destroyed American industry. Their quality is shit, but those that
> cannot afford a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Chronograph can readily afford a
> Chinese counterfeit Rolex! Their friends are duly impressed, and this =
> is the benefit that the consumer bought the watch for. So what if the gold
> electroplate wears off, and the watch starts running backwards in only a
> year? The $10,000 price for a genuine Rolex could buy several thousands =
> of year's worth of disposable Chinese counterfeits! Toss it when it quits, =
> and get another from China!
I really think Clyde is looking for a niche market, not mass
market. There are places where $200 - $400 is not unreasonable for a
talking clock. But what is the competition? And are they adventurous,
or not. It's probably an adjunct to some equipment already being sold
to the market, so the company reputation is what makes the sale. In a
market like that, you have zero credibility.
This would fall under the heading of Terrain in Sun Tzu's book "Art
of War", which some use as an analogy for marketing. Roes and Trout's
"Marketing Warfare" is another good book which talks about terrain.
Ries and Trout use concrete marketing examples, so are far more
understandable.
> "American Quality" is as worthless today as teats on a boar hog. =
> Granted, there is a very small segment of the market that buys quality.
> However, the
> vast majority of consumers don't give a tinker's damn about quality, all
> they consider is price. THIS is how Wal-Mart became the world's largest
> retailer- by selling shitty goods at a shitty price.
Yep.
> So what is your market? The one-tenth of one percent that buys quality; =
> or the 99.9% of the population that buys crap, fully expecting to toss it =
> in six months, and buy it again? If your answer is the one in a thousand =
> who buys quality, then you are doomed before you even get started.
No, not doomed! It's just a different market! You have to know
your markets. That means a lot more than one market survey. It means a
lot of leg work which is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than making the product
itself. (If made in China)
I've tried to sell product retail before. Retail, wholesale, web
based, etc. And I've always done badly at it. Made a living on some
things, but not ANYWHERE near what good marketing SHOULD have done!!!
> You are only deceiving yourself if you think you can sell an expensive,
> high-quality product and make money. Rolls-Royce went broke, and is now
Not true. There ARE markets. But they are not mass markets, and you
are going to have to do a lot of work finding them! Sales will be
tough! I am smart enough to go after easier money.
The bottom line, Clyde, is that you are designing the clock for
yourself, not the market. YOU want it! Fine, go build yourself a hobby
clock, sell the article to Popular Electronics, and break even with very
little risk.
> owned by Volkswagen! Mercedes-Benz uses Chrysler and Mitsubishi to
> underwrite their high-quality line. And the Chinese are about to enter =
> the American auto market- so all bets there are off.
Yep.
> Here's the product you need- Forget the fancy GPS time sync, 99% of the
> market doesn't care about that. Make a simple clock from a PLC chip,
> suitably programmed for SALEABLE features (that can show benefits to the
> consumer), add the cheap-shit voice synth chip used in greeting cards,
> assemble it in China for $5, and sell it for $29.95, with $9.95
> nonrefundable shipping and handling. Offer a refund of the $29.95 if
> not satisfied. Add a 90-day replacement warranty if it fails. Notice that
> the S&H covers costs, and provides a small profit. The $29.95 is gravy!
> The warranty covers the shoddy workmanship of the Chinese, and still leaves =
> a profit. Hell, you can replace the item four times during the warranty
> period, and STILL see a profit!
>
> THIS is how marketing works today!
More or less.
> As for using your clock for ham radio repeaters- No dice! Any ham that =
> can build a repeater can take a box of junk computer parts and make a =
> talking clock for the repeater for nothing! WHY should a repeater owner, =
> operating at zero profit, spending his personal funds to build the machine, even
> CONSIDER your $400 device- when he can create the same thing himself out =
> of the junkbox for free?
Except for his time, which is worth less. Again, that market is
the Popular Electronics construction article.
> Here is the bottom line, Clyde: Edison was a stupid fool in the field of
> technology, but perhaps the world's greatest marketer. Tesla was a =
> stupid fool at marketing, but perhaps the world's greatest technological =
> genius.
> To which man do we most owe our current technological society to? And =
> which man's life is required study in elementary school?
Yep!
> Tesla's brilliance changed technology. Edison's marketing made money. =
> Add a little P.T. Barnum to the Edison, and you will become rich beyond the
> avarice of Midas.
>
> Again, I'm sorry for raining on your parade, but I think you need to =
> hear this, and rethink your plans before wasting more resources on a
> pipe dream.
Mike makes a good point. But the wrong ones.
First, keep it light and fun! If you have to dig in and push too
hard, you'll end up just the way you are now -- an idea you've fought
for so hard that you can't see it won't work.
In other words, don't let your ideas own you. Own your dreams, look
at each of them, and keep having them. For only one in a thousand
dreams will be profitable, only one in a million will make a lot of
money. So you need to have the thousand dreams, evaluate each one, and
move on to the next one till you have one which you can make a profit
on.
Second, use this example to learn about market research, market
structure, etc. Yes, DO pursue it further so you gain the experience of
investigating the market. Just don't try to make the product yet. LEARN
something so you will be ready for the right idea.
One in a thousand is one every 2.7 years. You need more than one
dream a day. At that rate, you can't let one idea tie you up too long.
One in a million... well... If you have spurts of creativity, which
is the way it usually works, you might get one big idea every ten or
twenty years. That's been about the way it's been with my life. I came
up with the collision avoidance idea which made Ethernet (and didn't
pursue it!), word processing (which I didn't market well), the web
browser (which I failed at marketing with), search engine optimization,
which I didn't market well enough, though DID earn a living from; and a
couple of other things still pending.
My father did much the same, several ideas which made enough money
that they paid for our house, etc. when ADDED to a regular full time
job. The full time job paid the bills and gave stability and comfort so
that he could have the ideas and enough cash to risk on the ideas.
Get Dreaming, Clyde, get Dreaming! Don't get hung up on any one
dream, or you'll miss the big one.
And of course, don't forget the market research before you commit.
It takes work to tell whether your idea is good or not. But better you
learn it isn't going to be profitable BEFORE you have dug yourself into
a financial hole that you can't get out of.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 1 20:42:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 1 20:43:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH.... (WEBLINK.)
In-Reply-To: <20051001182144.9666.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051002034253.35830.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH, PART 1.
> THE BUSH FAMILY OLIGARCHY.
> FUNDING THE HITLER PROJECT:
When Hitler came into power, he was a great orator, making him a
VERY popular leader. He was not, at that time, an evil person; slightly
daft, but not inherently evil. Power went to his head. He surrounded
himself with some other easily corruptible folks. Together, THEY saw
some opposition they really didn't like, and then it started. The
probes was dynamic feedback, much like in an amplifier oscillation, of
mild personality disorders amplifying and supporting each other. I
could draw parallels with Nixon. (Who wasn't that bad a guy either.)
What kept Nixon from becoming a Hitler, was the structure of the
American government being a lot better established.
You can draw parallels between Hitler and just about any other
President, especially Kennedy and Nixon. But the fact is, the social
and governmental dynamics don't support it advancing into anything
resembling a reich.
As to all this patriot act stuff, we've lived through this before
in WW-II and even in WW-I. Nixon too, had some things like this going
on. It didn't go.
Or maybe you want to look at the deaths and payoffs around Madame
Clinton. There's another powerful conspiracy-that-might-exist. Or
might not.
YEAH;
NOT ONLY DO WE NEED EUGENICS FOR THE HUMAN POPULACE, BUT WE EQUALLY NEED A SUBJECT THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH DISCUSSION OF:
EUTHENICS.
INCREASING THE QUALITY OF STANDARDS IN ECOLOGICAL, ATMOSPHERIC, HEALTH IMPROVEMENT, AND LIVING CONDITIONS FOR THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE.
PROBABLY EVEN EUTHENICS IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANIMALS TOO.
CERTAINLY EUTHENICS IMPROVEMENTS FOR PLANT LIFE, OF ONLY SPECIFIC BENEFICIAL SPECIES; AND TO PERMANENTLY WEED OUT THE SHIT PLANTS, SUCH AS: EXAMPLE: POISON IVY.
I'M TIRED, AND SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH RESPONSE FOR NOW.
WORK; MONEY MATTER'S STRESS; INSOMNESIA, ALLOCRAPOLOGY PRESCIPTION DRUG ADDICTION, ETC. , HAVE ALL WRECKED MY HEALTH.
I'LL TRY TO REPLY MORE, OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, IF I HAVE ENOUGH
TIME AND ENERGY TO DO SO.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 1 20:45:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MADNESS TO THE ABSOLUTE.
In-Reply-To: <433ED2A2.6010106@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <20051002034525.21467.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
Hi Clyde-As you can imagine, with my own health issues that I am
researching and trying to buy supplements for and family issues and
writing as well as taking care of house and family, and the recent Storm
EVAC, I haven't gotten much good reading done. I am still too busy to
look at the links yet-but I will try next week.
OK.
You hang in there,
OK; I'M TRYING.
BTW there is yet another website that I found called
http://www.coldcure.com/
THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WEBLINK.
that can also be found through a google search with the terms: cure
depression with magnesium a guy named George Eby swears by it and it
is his website-it has extensive links to research and tells all about
heart issues, depression, and other seemingly unrelated health problems,
he also pushes Zinc along with magnesium and Omega #'s I think he's on
to something.
YEAH; KRAFTWERK, IN THEIR NEW SONG, TITLED: VITAMIN, MENTION, BOTH ZINC, AND MAGNESIUM, FOR HEALTH BENEFITS, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE
THE PART OF THE SONG THAT MENTIONS MAGNESIUM IN THE SOUND SAMPLE ON THE WEBSITE.
EVERYONE CAN LISTEN TO A SOUND SAMPLING OF THE SONG WHEN YOU
ENTER THE KRAFTWERK WEBSITE:
http://www.kraftwerk.com
1ST: CLICK TO ENTER THE WEBSITE, BY CLICKING THE MOUSE ON THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWER ANTENNA, ON THE OPENING PAGE.
AFTER THAT, IT THEN TAKES YOU TO THE WAVEFORM SCREEN WITH THE LEFT AND RIGHT ARROWS AT THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SCREEN, AND BETWEEN THE LEFT AND RIGHT ARROWS IS THE WORD: INFO.
2ND: CLICK ON INFO.
3RD: THEN CLICK ON THE TOUR DE FRANCE SOUNDTRACKS ICON.
4TH: AFTER THAT; CLICK ON VITAMIN, AMONG THE SONG LISTINGS OF THE OTHER SONGS, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
IF YOUR COMPUTER HAS AUDIO CAPABILITIES, YOU SHOULD THEN BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE SONG SOUND SAMPLE WHILE VIEWING A PORTION OF THE SONG LYRICS AT THE SAME TIME; SCROLL THE UP AND DOWN
CURSER KEYS, TO VIEW THE SAMPLE OF THE SONG LYRICS.
I LISTENED TO PART OF THE COAST TO COAST A.M. BROADCAST, THE OTHER
NIGHT; GEORGE NOORY INTERVIEWING TIM BOLEN; AND MR. BOLEN MENTIONED ABOUT COMBINATIONS OF ZINC AND MAGNESIUM AND OMEGA 3 FISH OIL, FOR OPTIMUM HEALTH.
Check it out! If the search terms or the address is bad,
let me know I'll cut and paste for you. Lisa
OK.
THANKS SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 1 20:54:24 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 1 20:54:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK.
Message-ID: <20051002035424.9685.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK:
http://www.findmidis.com/lyrics.go/1415
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 1 22:13:23 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 1 22:13:41 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH.... (WEBLINK.)
In-Reply-To: <20051002034253.35830.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 01, 2005 08:42:53 PM
Message-ID: <20051002051323.68677.qmail@mall-net.com>
> NOT ONLY DO WE NEED EUGENICS FOR THE HUMAN POPULACE,
Just remember, Clyde, under Hitler, you would have been one of the
first to go because of your particular health problems. Is that what
you wish?
BUT WE EQUALLY NEED A SUBJECT THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH DISCUSSION OF:
> EUTHENICS.
> INCREASING THE QUALITY OF STANDARDS IN ECOLOGICAL, ATMOSPHERIC, HEALTH
IMPROVEMENT, AND LIVING CONDITIONS FOR THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE.
Standards... standards are nice indeed. There's just one little
problem -- what if you can't afford to live within the standards?
Most homes up here are not within standards. Why? Few can afford
them up here. So they violate zoning and building codes willy nilly.
One of the guys up here is fighting to keep his home from being torn
down because of building codes and permits. Others I know have had
similar problems, often selling out so as to "settle" the issue.
So who pays?
Are the people sidelined into staying in rental housing? (none up
here!) Do they buy a more expensive home instead of sending their kids
to college? Many would do that.
It's just like the minimum wage issue. If you only produce $2.50
worth of work to a potential employer, and the minimum wage is $5.00; he
won't hire you. He can't afford to!
So hundreds of thousands of kids fresh out of high school with
little in the way of job skills can't get jobs! If minimum wage was
$1.00, they'd get hired for that, and when they learned enough to be
worth more, would get raises. Instead, they are simply rendered
unemployable by an overly high minimum wage, never get that work
experience, never to develop those critical work skills, and remain
unemployable, joining gangs, smoking dope, getting drunk, etc. on their
way to welfare and/or prison.
But it's the standard! "How can we deny these youths the $7.50
wage they deserve?" Ask the liberal politicians. It sounds good, and
it's not their money anyway. Vote for me, and you'll get more money!
So instead, the liberal politicians deny a lot more people
employment, careers, etc., side-lining them into things leading toward
welfare and jail.
I started at minimum wage. The first job involved manual labor,
using a small hammer and dies to whack numbers on pieces of aluminum.
What could be easier than that? Uh... no eraser. I did badly at it,
and seeing that I couldn't do good work, had the decency of quitting
after a week or two. I wasn't asked to quit, I just didn't like the
number of mistakes I was making. It wasn't my kind of work.
My second job was at a computer center in college, working at
minimum student wage, which was even less. I didn't care; I wanted to
be on the inside working with the million dollar IBM mainframe computer.
(About 1/1000th the speed and a thousand times the price of today's
laptops.) It got me work skills, showed people what I could do, got
recommendations, etc. Not to mention being enjoyable work that I really
had talent for. With that as proof of my abilities, my next job paid
something like four times as much.
If the standard minimum wage had been much higher, I seriously
doubt the computer center could have afforded to employ as many
students, and I'd not have gotten the formal work experience, ever been
hired as a jr. systems programmer on the second job, etc.
So standards are not always so good.
In actual fact, they hired me after I had been a volunteer. I was
interested in computers enough that I just started helping people with
them just to see what they were doing. (Laughing,) Wearing a sports
coat and tie, most thought I was graduate level staff; not an unpaid
second year undergrad! I had discovered what I was really good at!
Later, I invented something the computer center needed, so was
invited to spend time on the inside to work on that and other projects.
They gave me a desk and unlimited computer time. I well remember one of
the incidents precipitating my formal hiring. I was working on a
project, and had to excuse myself to go somewhere. One of the staff
asked how I could just walk off in the middle of this. I politely
explained that I was an unpaid volunteer, and thus had to go earn some
money elsewhere at that hour, trying to sell soap as an independent
salesman. The staff member was amazed that I, who spent a lot of time
doing a lot of critical things keeping some of the stuff going, was
interfacing with professors to help them with their work, etc. was an
unpaid volunteer! I think it was about two weeks later that I was
called in to the second in command's office and was formally put on the
payroll with the understanding that I could only work 15 or 20 hours. (I
had often put in over 30-40 or more hours a week and continued to do so,
not expecting to be paid for the excess. I'd often take over at 4:30pm
Saturday, and keep the computer running for them while I worked on some
project till Monday 6am, over 36 hours later.) Needless to say, I got
exceptional references from that job, and that made my career.
But without some base pay, how many people would have worked long
and hard enough pick up good work skills?
And if we have to pay more for higher quality homes than we can
afford, how many would-be high talent students end up as unemployable
bums because they never got the schooling, or the critical toys
(chemistry sets, Erector sets, Lego Technics kits, robots, etc.) which
turned them into those highly talented individuals?
There's a price for everything; but it isn't always clear to the
average person just who pays that price.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 1 22:27:23 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 1 22:27:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MADNESS TO THE ABSOLUTE.
In-Reply-To: <20051002034525.21467.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 01, 2005 08:45:25 PM
Message-ID: <20051002052723.76301.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
> Hi Clyde-As you can imagine, with my own health issues that I am
> researching and trying to buy supplements for and family issues and
> writing as well as taking care of house and family, and the recent Storm
> EVAC, I haven't gotten much good reading done. I am still too busy to
> look at the links yet-but I will try next week.
A little plugola for one of my clients. I've been buying vitamins
and other supplements from Wholesale Nutrition for twenty three years.
(They've only been a client for some sixteen years.)
http://www.nutri.com/prices/ 1-800-FALCONI, run by a guy who does no
advertising other than word of mouth and getting published in various
health books as a source for odd, hard to get state-of-the-art products.
He's ready to retire, wants to sell the company. I'd buy it in a
flash, except for the little problem of money. I don't have that kind
of money, and his prices are so low that it doesn't make a ton of money
to pay off a business loan from.
Oscar, the owner, is a great guy, a former engineer and bit of a
mad scientist himself. He collects old science books, etc.
So if you need supplements, check out http://www.nutri.com/prices/
and give him a call at 1-800-FALCONI. Tell him you hear of him from a
mad scientist on a mountain.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 10:39:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 10:39:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MT HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
Message-ID: <20051002173932.91410.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
HANGING IN THERE.
MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
STRESS IS ENDLESS.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 10:47:56 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 10:48:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America?
In-Reply-To: <53803CC7162.000000E8jerryvolland@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20051002174756.21285.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
wrote:
Wonder who controls American Big Business?
http://www.geocities.com/macroburst/theyrule.html
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 2 10:48:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MT HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
In-Reply-To: <20051002173932.91410.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 02, 2005 10:39:32 AM
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> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
> HANGING IN THERE.
> MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
> STRESS IS ENDLESS.
at this point, I always take enough vitamin C to get diarrhea.
If you are having breathing issues as well, then it's the start of
anaphylactic shock. if so, call 911 immediately.
if not, then I've found a few grams of C calms me down.
I'm supposed to move today... will be off-line for a few days due to
a bunch of screw ups by several ISPs.
-JVV-
>
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>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 2 10:50:00 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 2 10:50:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America?t
In-Reply-To: <20051002174756.21285.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 02, 2005 10:47:56 AM
Message-ID: <20051002175000.38451.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> Wonder who controls American Big Business?
>
> http://www.geocities.com/macroburst/theyrule.html
Try the Ammerican Consumer. If he don't buy, the business
colapses! Witness the airlines after 9/11, Detroit after the Jap[anese
produced better products, etc.
We vote with out dollars every day!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 10:54:46 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 10:54:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A VIEW FROM THE DARK LIGHT SIDE OF REALTY.
Message-ID: <20051002175446.93429.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
A VIEW FROM THE DARK LIGHT SIDE OF
REALITY:
THE DARK FORCES HAVE PHYSICALLY
AND SEXUALLY ABUSED ALL ANGELS;
(A.K.A: CHILDREN), SINCE AND BEFORE,
THE GODS OF ANTIQUITY.
CLYDE LOFTON
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From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Oct 2 15:54:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
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http://www.spacenow.ca/
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 16:00:53 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 2 16:00:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
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Nice site. I agree with the things that I saw on said
site.
Bob
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 16:27:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 16:27:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
In-Reply-To: <20051002174831.37480.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051002232729.75138.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
> HANGING IN THERE.
> MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
> STRESS IS ENDLESS.
at this point, I always take enough vitamin C to get diarrhea.
If you are having breathing issues as well,
YES! BAD, TERRIBLE FEELING, BREATHING ISSUES: BREATHING TROUBLES AND HEARTACHE FROM HELL.
then it's the start of anaphylactic shock. if so, call 911 immediately.
I'D GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, BUT I CANNOT AFFORD A
THOUSAND DOLLAR HOSPITAL BILL.
CAN YOU GIVE ME SUCCINCT / TRITE DETAILS OF ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK, IN A NUTSHELL: 1. ITS CAUSES; 2. ITS EFFECTS; AND 3. ITS CURE(S)?
if not, then I've found a few grams of C calms me down.
I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TRY MAGNESIUM.
WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS OF MAGNESIUM???
I WENT TO A RESTERAUNT AT LUNCH TIME AND REQUESTED A COUPLE
OF ORANGE JUICES, AND THEY SEEMED TO HELP FOR A WHILE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF DICED TOMATOES AND SALSA, TOO.
AFTER THAT; I WENT TO A LOCAL GROCERY NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART,
AND BOUGHT A 2 QUART 100% VITAMIN C CONTAINER OF GUAVA NECTAR;
A THING OF CLOVES (BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE HEALTH BENEFITS OF EATING PURE ONIONS AND GARLIC IN THE PAST); A BANANA;
AND SOME OLIVE OIL.
I NEED TO GO AND GET SOME QUALITY GOOD WHOLE GRAIN REAL MCCOY BREAD, TOMORROW AFTERNOON, OR TOMORROW MORNING, AT A LOCAL MOM AND POP, BREAD STORE, HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA; NOT THE TYPICAL FAKE SHIT BREADS AT YOUR AVERAGE TYPE OF GROCERY STORES.
I AM ADDICTED ONCE AGAIN, TO THE PRESCIPTION DRUG: CLONAZEPAM.
THE EFFECTS; (THE FEELINGS) WHEN I AM UNABLE TO TAKE THE DRUG, ARE ABSOLUTE HELL.
BUT I HAVE BEEN SEMI-TORTURING MYSELF, BY BEING ULTRA ULTRA CONSERVATIVE WITH THE DRUG, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT TOO MUCH OF IT
CAN ALSO DO: AND IT ISN'T GOOD EITHER WAY; IN TOO LARGE A DOSE, OR
IN TOO SMALL A DOSE.
ZYPREXA OLANZAPINE (AKA: ZYSEXA OLANZAPENIS; (SARCASM!) EFFECTS THE SEX DRIVE WRONGLY, AND WEAKENS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM, MAJORLY UPSETTING MY SLEEP CYCLES; CAUSING INSOMNIA THAT WEAKENS MY IMMUNE SYSTEM.
I AM SICK OF DRUGS, AND THEY HAVE MADE ME SICK.
I CANNOT GET THE HELP THAT I NEED.
THE NATUREOPATHIC DOCTOR IS JUST FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, WITHOUT MEDI-SCARE COVERING A CO-PAY.
AND SEEING THE CHIROPRACTOR IS TOO, FAR, FEW, AND IN BETWEEN EACH APPOINTMENT; IN OTHER WORDS: NOT CONSTANT; LIKE APPOINTMENTS NEEDING TO BE LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAMNED DAY!
INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY IS MOST BENEFICIAL!
I'm supposed to move today... will be off-line for a few days due to
a bunch of screw ups by several ISPs.
OK.
THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS MANDAMNED, OVERTAXED, OVERZONED, SHITHOLE SLUMBURB, ARE PRYING INTO MY LIFE ELECTRONICALLY; I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE EXACT WAYS AND MEANS OF HOW THEY ARE DOING IT; BUT THEY ARE; AND THEY HAD A MEDIA CIRCUS OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE OTHER DAY; LUCKILIY I WASN'T AROUND WHEN ALL OF THAT FUCKING STUPID NONSENSE TOOK PLACE.
THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS PRISON; (THIS BROKEN HOME) ENJOY MAKING ENEMIES OF EVERYONE IN THIS FUCKING
SLUMBURB.
ALSO SEEMS LIKE ALL OF MY CONTROVERSY HAS MADE OTHERS AROUND THIS SHITHOLE SLUMBURB, SUSPICIOUS OF THE THINGS THAT I DO; AND I KNOW I'VE ALSO CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF THE CORPORATE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, AND ALSO OF THE LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL, FROM ALL OF THE CONTROVERSY THAT I HAVE STIRRED UP.
ALL I AM TRYING TO DO, IS TO LIVE; BUT I AM BARELY ABLE TO LIVE; LET ALONE; BARELY ABLE TO EVEN BREATHE AT ALL ANYMORE.
ONE OF MY AUNTS HAS SAID THAT MY FATHER WAS A TORMENTED SOUL.
AND SHE MADE THAT SAME NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT MYSELF TOO.
IT IS PEOPLE WHO TORMENT ME; AND SO I NO LONGER LIKE BEING AROUND ANYONE; YOUNG OR OLD.
ALTHOUGH ALL OF THE IMPERFECTIONS OF LIFE TORMENT ME TOO; AND THE ENDLESS STRESS OF MONEY MATTERS ALSO CAUSE ME TREMENDOUS GRIEF.
THIS HEARTACHE HYPERTENSION OVERKILL IS GOING TO KILL ME, IF I CANNOT GET IT UNDER CONTROL.
I AM SICK OF DRUGS.
I NEED EVERY ALTERNATIVE THAT I CAN FIND NOW, THAT WORKS.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 17:20:15 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 17:20:27 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME OTHER SITES THAT I HAVE FOUND, TO VENT.
Message-ID: <20051003002015.25985.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
SOME OTHER SITES THAT I HAVE FOUND,
TO VENT:
http://www.2secret.com
http://www.2secret.com/secret_26490.aspx
http://www.theinternetisstupid.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 18:57:34 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: LISA-KRAFTWERK
In-Reply-To: <43401A42.7080306@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <20051003015734.20678.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
Hi Clyde-Thanks! I've listened in to Kraftwerk before-have you heard of
Isao Tomita?
YES; HE HAS VERY COOL ELECTRONIC MUSIC!
I OWN AN OUT OF PRODUCTION COPY OF HIS COMPLETELY ELECTRONIC
RENDITION OF THE PLANETS, ORIGINALLY SCORED AND PRODUCED,
BY HOLST.
Electronic music from the 1970's "Snowflakes are Dancing"
I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT PRODUCTION THOUGH.
-Claude Debussey-Composer-You might like it-although it is mellow.
YEAH; I LIKE MELLOW MUSIC TOO.
I GET SICK OF ALL OF THE HYPED UP TECHNO OVERKILL CRAP ALL OF
THE TIME.
I LIKE THE SLOWER, MELLOW, EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONIC MUSIC THE BEST OF ALL; AND PURELY EXPERIMENTAL ELECTROACOUSTIC MUSIC; SOUND
EFFECTS; EXPERIMENTAL ANALOGUE SOUND SYNTHESIS; PURELY EXPERIMENTAL ESOTERIC, LYRIC-LESS ELECTRONIC MUSIC, ETC....
THE KRAFTWERK RADIOACTIVITY ALBUM IS MY FAVORITE OF ALL KRAFTWERK PRODUCTIONS.
THE HYPED UP TECHNO / HOUSE VERSIONS ARE COOL, BUT I LIKE THE ORIGINAL SLOW-MELLOW-ELECTRONIC ROCK VERSION THE BEST.
I JUST WISH RALF HUETTER, AND FLORIAN SCHNEIDER OF KRAFTWERK WOULD DO AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT NEW COVER VERSION OF THE ORIGINAL SLOW STYLE OF RADIOACTIVITY, BUT INSTEAD; USING ALL MODERN DIGITAL ELECTRONICS TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE, WITH ALTERNATIVE LYRICS TO COUNTER THE OLD LYRICS WHICH PROMOTED NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVITY.
I SUPPORT NON-NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVITY; IN OTHER WORDS:
ANTI-NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVITY.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE GREAT RADIO CONTROVERSY THAT NIKOLA TESLA,
ALBERT EINSTEIN, CHARLES STEINMETZ, EDWIN ARMSTRONG, AND PHILO
FARNSWORTH WERE ALL PART OF.
AND THOMAS EDISON, GUGLIELMO MARCONI, AND DAVID SARNOFF, WERE
JUST BUSINESS THEIVES WHO STOLE THE PATENT RIGHTS TO THE VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES, AMONG OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE JOHN PIERPONT MORGAN,
AND MANY OTHERS, OF THE TIME PERIOD IN THE PAST.
TESLA; THE ROCK BAND, HAS AN ALBUM SELF TITLED: THE GREAT RADIO
CONTROVERSY; AFTER ALL OF THE RADIO PATENT WARS FROM THE GOOD
OLD DAYS, WHEN AMERICA USED TO BE A COUNTRY WHERE INVENTORS
WERE STILL FREE TO INVENT.
About Omegas, I tried to catch Tim Bolen's program-
YEAH; IT WAS A VERY GOOD PROGRAM THE OTHER NIGHT!
I WISH I COULD GET THAT PROGRAM, AMONG SPECIFIC SCIENTIFICALLY
BASED OTHER PROGRAMS; LIKE THAT LAST TIME THAT ART BELL INTERVIEWED PHYSICIST: MICHIO KAKU.
but-our Mom Cat had issues and we were trying to take care of her and fix late dinner for us and somehow I missed it. A while back I found and copied a method whereby on the pc-you could COPY an audio program aired on radio, I have so much going on that I lost it-do you know any way to do that? Capture programs that are good, to hear again later via PC?
YEAH; THERE ARE TWO METHODS NOW:
THE ORIGINAL ONE IS TITLED: STREAMING AUDIO, AND THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS A VERY NEW TECHNOLOGY, IS CALLED SOMETHING LIKE I-POD
CAST, I-POD CASTING, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THE NEW I-POD THING YET, BUT THAT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER THAN THE COMPUTER STREAMING AUDIO METHOD.
I'D HAVE DONE STREAMING AUDIO RECORDING A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I
JUST CANNOT AFFORD MY OWN INTERNET SERVICE, MY OWN COMPUTER,
AND THE ADDED EXPENSE OF BEING A STREAMLINK SUBSCRIBER.
THE STREAMING AUDIO METHOD WOULD BE A LOT MORE COMPLICATED
TO DO, THAN THE I-POD THING, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE I-POD THING
WORKS YET.
I NEED TO INVESTIGATE IT.
I can barely remember the elements necessary.
YEAH; ALL I KNOW IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMPUTER CRAP INVOLVED IN IT, AND THAT I AM TOO D----D POOR TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD HAVING THE SERVICE.
BTW-I've already started us on the Mag and Zinc
I TOOK A ZINC TABLET THE OTHER MORNING, AND FELT TERRIBLE AFTER I
TOOK IT, BUT THAT WAS A FIRST; (THE FEELING BAD PART OF IT).
I'D TAKEN THE ZINC TABS IN THE PAST, BUT NEVER FELT ANY HEART PAINS
AFTER TAKING THEM,,,, BUT I WAS SO BUSY THAT MORNING THAT I ATE A LATE LUNCH, AND IT WAS QUITE PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF BOTH TAKING THE ZINC ON AN EMPTY STOMACH, AND HAVING A LATE LUNCH.
I FELT A LOT BETTER AFTER LUNCH THOUGH!
thing-I also added THEANINE, since I am a hyper person,
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEANINE.
IS IT A PRESCRIPTION DRUG? ;
OR A VITAMIN?
excitable, yet depressed.
THAT IS SORT OF LIKE ME; NOT NECESSARILY EXCITABLE, PERSAY, BUT
MANY SOCIAL SITUATIONS MAKE ME VERY TENSE AND VERY NERVOUS, AND LIFE IS ALWAYS DEPRESSING WITHOUT SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AVAILABLE, TO EXPERIMENT ENDLESSLY; TO BE LIMITLESSLY CREATIVE.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WERE ALL CREATED FOR? ;;;;
TO BE CREATIVE IN OUR LIVES, WITHOUT LIMIT????
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY IN LIFE.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND; THAT IS WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF
AMERICA INTENDED FOR EVERYONE.
I also use Kreb's Cycle Formula and Triple Chrome by Alacer and Ultra Mag. I got most of the stuff at the Vitamin Shoppe.
TRIPLE CHROME?
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECTS OF TAKING TRIPLE CHROME ARE?
Just be sure you get the Magnesium Taurate form, NOT OXIDE FORM!!!
OK.
I do get a bit of the oxide form-but that is made up for by the formula having a bunch of other type in it too. Lisa
OK.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 19:08:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Jerry Volland's website.
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Jerry Volland's website:
http://www.spaceoffice.us
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From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Oct 2 19:19:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetic computing
Message-ID: <002a01c5c7c0$d0e405a0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
http://physorg.com/news6826.html
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 19:29:14 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 19:29:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH; (EXPANDED:).
In-Reply-To: <20051002173932.91410.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
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clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
HANGING IN THERE.
MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
STRESS IS ENDLESS.
CLYDE
EXPANDED:
IF LIFE COULD ONLY PERMANENTLY TURN AROUND
FOR THE BETTER, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS FOR THE
WORSE.
PERMANENT PEACE IN LIFE, IS PRICELESS.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 19:32:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE.
Message-ID: <20051003023235.45992.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE,
AS IT HAS FOR A LONG TIME NOW.
I NEED A PEACEFUL - PERMANENT
VACATION.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 19:46:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH; (MORE).
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
> HANGING IN THERE.
> MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
> STRESS IS ENDLESS.
at this point, I always take enough vitamin C to get diarrhea.
If you are having breathing issues as well,
YES! BAD, TERRIBLE FEELING, BREATHING ISSUES: BREATHING TROUBLES AND HEARTACHE FROM HELL.
then it's the start of anaphylactic shock. if so, call 911 immediately.
*MORE:
BREATHING FOR MYSELF, IN MANY CASES, IS NO LONGER AUTOMATIC.
I AM SUFFERING, WITH NO ONE OUT THERE TO HELP.
THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN "IS BECOMING" (*HAS BECOME*) OBSOLETE I
GUESS; OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HE IS BEING HIGHLY NEGLECTFUL, AND IS AN OBSTINANT, STUBBORN
BASTARD.
I HATE TO CALL HIM THAT, BUT HE F'ING IS!
HE IS A CHRISTIAN, BUT HE IS STILL HANDCUFFED BEHIND HIS BACK
BY THE MANDAMNED AND GODDAMNED INSURANCE AND PHARMACOLOGY
DICK-TATOR-SHITS.
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sun Oct 2 21:01:00 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 2 21:01:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Jerry Volland's website.
Message-ID: <20051002.210102.10230.26337@webmail06.lax.untd.com>
Thanks for inviting me to the list, Clyde. And thanks for the plug for my website. I just wanted to let everyone know that, not only am I the Master of Inertia (i.e. Inertial Propulsion), but I'm familiar with lots of other Propulsion systems as well. I really respect you, Clyde, because of the ideas you've written to me about in the past, regarding your own space ship designs, and I still haven't forgotten that you sent me some information in the mail that I probably never would have found on my own. Other than that, I'm happy to give this list a try, since I really AM a mad scientist. After all, I'm the one who invented the Volland Coctail, which is much better than the Molotov kind, since mine makes a really big bang. Just pour some peroxide into a small bowl and add a little bubble stuff. Then, stir in some baker's yeast (which realeases the oxygen from the peroxide) and add a little chunk of calcium carbide (Miner's Carbide - from the welding store or hardware stor
e). The carbide reacts with the water in the peroxide to produce accetylene, and the two gasses start making some nice bubbles. Touch a bubble with a match, and BANG! - an instant firecracker. A word of caution, though: under no circumstance should you combine these ingredients in a closed container, without a permit from the BATF ($2,000), since this would constitute an "explosive device" ("stun grenade"), which will get you into a lot of trouble. Even without a detonator. In fact, last year in California a couple of kids got busted big time for just putting dry ice and water into a soda bottle and screwing the lid on. I get to go online every night at 8:00, so if anyone has any comments or questions about the technology I've put online, just let me know. This is my third web site and is part of my on-going efforts to put my stuff into the Public Domain so anyone can build and use it. I'll be happy to help however I can. I'm also an electrician, and electricity is my
hobbie. Besides that, I know about Free Energy (every ship needs a power source), Ancient Technology, Scalar Physics, and UFO's. Talk to you soon; other email servers and lists to check. Jerry Vollandwww.spaceoffice.us
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 22:49:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 22:49:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <5A860E10CD0.000004D0jerryvolland@inbox.com>
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Jerry Volland < jerryvolland@inbox.com > wrote:
Mr. Lofton:
Sorry you're so stressed out with Tulsa Time. (And I was thinking about coming back there.) I guess there is no where to go but up and on out.
YES!
I AM READY TO LEAVE WHEN POSSIBLE; I JUST NEED TO TAKE A BOTTLE OF
WHISKEY WITH ME, SOME XANEX, AND A SUFFICIENT DOSE OF CYANIDE,
TO CHECK OUT, BOTH EASILY, AND PEACEFULLY, IF THINGS GO WRONG.
Eventually, all Malcontents will follow us off planet.
OK.
I'M ALREADY A VERY MALCONTENT PERSON, WITH THIS ENDLESS DISEASE
WORLD.
Speaking of the planet, it will be hard for the Bildergergers (the international Banking conspiracy) to lose. Even if they have competition in the Coalescence of the Planet and are collaborating with the Devil.
When it comes to Satan, that awareness is queer, and that's why the children, and others, are being molested. I'll bet the CIA, etc., is also participating - with industrial espionage,
YES; I'VE CHALLENGED BIG BUSINESS SO MUCH NOW, THAT I'M MORE THAN LIKELY UNDER INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE BY EITHER THE AMERICAN GOVT., AND / OR BY THE COMMUNIST CRAP CHINESE.
indecent surveilance,
YES.
remotely applied Scalar Energenitics, (ENERGETICS? OR: ENERGENETICS?)
I DON'T KNOW 'ENOUGH' ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY; EXCEPT REGARDING
TESLA'S WORK WITH THE WIRELESS TRANSMISSION OF RESONANT ELECTRICAL POWER, THE HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL PROJECT,
WEATHER CONTROL / 'NUCLEAR' WEATHER CONTROL, CLOUD SEEDING,
CHEMTRAILS, AND RUSSIAN E.L.F. RADIO FREQUENCY WEAPONS FOR
MIND MANIPULATION, COMBINED WITH PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS: M.K. ULTRA.
brain wave interference,
DEFINATELY 60 CYCLE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES (B.P.L.) BRAINWAVE
ENTRAINMENT, AND BRAINWAVE INTERFERENCE!
I'VE NOW BECOME SUPER SENSITIVE TO THE 60 CYCLE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, THE 60 CYCLE ELECTROMAGNETIC ELECTRONEURAL ENTRAINMENT, AND THE 60 CYCLE ELECTROPHOTONIC
NEURAL ENTRAINMENT.
PARTS OF THE UTILITY GRID BEAST SYSTEM: JUST QUESTIONING:
COULD THERE BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST COINCIDENCE BETWEEN 666 (6/6/6),
AND THE 60 60 60 ("60/60/60" / "6/0 6/0 6/0") THREE PHASE POLYPHASE POWER TRANSMISSION SYSTEM (INTRAFUCTURE)?
and electronic systems attacks (i.e., Internet sabatage, personal computor disruption, phone taps, etc.).
YES; DEFINATELY!
I KNOW NOW THAT MY TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, BECAUSE ALL OF THE CONTROVERSY 'THAT I HAVE STARTED' ; AND' DUE TO MY NOSY NEIGHBORS WHO CANNOT KEEP THEIR NOSES OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF ALL OF THE OTHER FOLKS IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB, LOWER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD, IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
Do you know who was the head of the CIA when Jimmy Carter lost the Iran hostage crisis? It was George Bush, senior.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED.
Then the CIA joind the KGB, Reagan got in, and the US fell.
YEP; THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL AND THE IRON CURTAIN SCREWED THIS
COUNTRY.
THE SAYING THAT REAGAN BEAT COMMUNISM IS A LIE.
AMERICA IS NOW A COMMUNIST NEOLIB, AND FASCIST NEOCON WARZONE;
FIGHTING FOR THE MINDS OF THE YOUTH OF THE FUTURE OF THIS DOOMED
'COUNTRY, AND' PLANET.
Too many people are lusting after power and evil.
ENTRAINED TO ALL OF THE CHILD PORN ON THE NET!
IT'S ALRIGHT; I WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED IN MY YOUTH, AND SO
IT IS NOT AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ME TO TALK ABOUT IT, TO
A CERTAIN EXTENT.
They'll do whatever it takes, including violating the UN Treaty against harmfully interferring with space related activities, the Constitutional prohibition against covert actions against American Citizens living inside the country's borders, the Geneva Convention against war crimes (military strikes) against private civilians, and Natural Law itself. It's time to leave; what do you think?
YEP! ; DAMNED STRAIGHT!
I'M SICK OF THIS ENDLESS CURSED DISEASE WORLD, AND AM READY TO LEAVE.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE IN PEACE, AND NOT IN PIECES; E.G.: VIA
SOME FORM OF NAZI NEOCON ISLAM COOPERATIVE TERRORIST ATTACK
ON THIS DIVIDED AND BROKEN SCREWED COUNTRY.
I'D LIKE TO TYPE A LOT MORE, BUT NEED TO GET SOME REST, AND AM
OVERWHELMED AT THE MANY E-MAIL REPLIES THAT I'VE RECEIVED BACK WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS.
I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER,
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
Regards,
Jerry Volland
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 23:01:14 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 2 23:01:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
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clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE THE
FASCIST DICTATORSHIP OF THE NAZI
THEOCRAT BUSHES.
CLYDE
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 2 23:34:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
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Mr. Lofton: A couple of quick words before you turn in. You asked: Scalar Energetics or Energenetics? That would be Energetics; otherwise, it would turn out to be Transmugenics. 60 cycle electromagnetic electroneural entrainment: They're sending out Telepathic Music which resonates with motors which have certain RPMs. The lyrics program the "meeklings", but only 17 percent of the population can hear it. 6/6/6: There is no such number in the Bible; it's 600, three score and six. Each of these numbers mean something. By ignoring the 600 and changing the three score to three six, they have perdition and will be dog-am(n) in their next life cycles. (They try to turn God around.) noisy neighbors: Are you sure that some of these neighbors aren't CIA? Does the next apartment have any furniture in it? Rest for awhile, but always rise again. And stay on guard and reject external input.. Sincerely, Jerry Volland
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 07:01:48 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 07:01:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
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Message-ID: <20051003140148.65484.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
TO THE LORD - FIRST AND FOREMOST,
WITH YOU AS MY WITNESS, JERRY.
JESUS CHRIST: I HOPE EVERYTHING
WILL TURN OUT ALRIGHT IN OUR
FUTURES.
I HOPE THAT AMERICA SURVIVES.
THE GOVT. OWES EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF US LAXPAYERS LARGE LUMP
SUMS OF MONEY, IN PAYCHECK
FORM, AFTER SUCH GARGANTUAN
WASTE, ON WORTHLESS IRAQ, AND
AFGHANISTAN, IN THE MIDDLE
BEAST.
AND CAPITALISM FOR THE MOST
PART HAS MOVED OUT, TO
COMMUNIST CRAP WORTHLESS
SHODDY SHIT CHINA;
SUFFOCATING AMERICAN 'SMALL'
BUSINESSES TO DEATH.
LORD; I HOPE AMERICA SURVIVES
ITS SELLOUT!
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Mr. Lofton:
A couple of quick words before you turn in.
I ALREADY TURNED IN, BUT AM UP AGAIN; AWAKE THIS MORNING.
You asked: Scalar Energetics or Energenetics? That would be Energetics; otherwise, it would turn out to be Transmugenics.
OK.
60 cycle electromagnetic electroneural entrainment: They're sending out Telepathic Music which resonates with motors
AND THAT PROBABLY ALSO INCLUDES EFFECTING OF BIO-NEUROMOTOR FUNCTIONING EQUALLY AS WELL, 'AT OTHER' WITH SPECIFIC FREQUENCIES AND SHARP AMPLITUDE SPIKES.
which have certain RPMs. The lyrics program the "meeklings", but only 17 percent of the population can hear it.
INTERESTING!
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT FREQUENCY THAT ITS CARRIER IS ON, AND DEMODULATE ITS SIGNAL, TO LISTEN TO WHAT IT IS CONVEYING, AND EXACTLY HOW IT IS BEING CONVEYED.
COULD IT BE MULTIPLEXED, ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES
SIMULTANEOUSLY?
6/6/6: There is no such number in the Bible; it's 600, three score and six. Each of these numbers mean something. By ignoring the 600 and changing the three score to three six, they have perdition and will be dog-am(n) in their next life cycles. (They try to turn God around.)
I HAD READ THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WAY BACK WHEN, LIKE BACK IN THE DARK AGES, ALTERED MANY OF THE TRUE MEANINGS IN THE BIBLE, TO FIT THEIR AGENDA; '666 COULD BE ONE OF THEM'.
AND THERE IS ALSO THE # 777; THE SO-CALLED # OF PERFECTION.
BUT ETERNAL INFINITE ABSOLUTE OMNIDIMENSION PERFECTION TRANSCENDS PLAIN, ORDINARY PERFECTION, FOREVER.
noisy neighbors:
NOSY NEIGHBORS.
Are you sure that some of these neighbors aren't CIA? Does the next apartment have any furniture in it?
COULD JUST BE.
I HAVE A STRONG HUNCH THAT THE NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO THIS BROKEN HOME (THIS HOUSE IN WHICH I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE), PARTIALLY BACKYARD TO BACKYARD TO THIS HOUSE, AND BACKYARD TO BACKYARD WITH THE WICKED WITCH OLD BAG AND HER MISERABLE HUSBAND, WHO LIVE DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS HOUSE, HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO, AFTER THEY FIRST MOVED INTO THE RESIDENCE, BY MY HUNCH; THE TULSA HOUSING AUTHORITY, HAVE SOMETHING TO DO, WITH ALL OF THE SHIT THAT
IS GOING ON.
THERE ARE TWO CABLE BOXES IN THEIR BACKYARD, AND I KNOW FOR CERTAIN NOW THAT THE PHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, THE INSECURITY SHYTSTEM IS BEING USED FOR COUNTER SURVEILANCE AGAINST ME,
MY E-MAILS ARE BEING MONITORED, AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES
IS MORE THAN LIKELY ALSO BEING USED AGAINST ME TOO.
I AM SICK OF THIS HOUSE, AND AM SICK OF TULSA OKLAHOMA.
AS JOHN (JAVILK) ALLUDED TO THIS HOUSE BEING A TOXIC WASTE DUMP;
WELL HE WAS RIGHT!
IT F'ING IS.
I AM SICK OF THIS BROKEN HOME - IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE OVERTAXED AND OVERZONED INDUSTRIAL SLUMBBURB NEIGHBORHOOD,
IN THIS OVERTAXED AND OVERZONED SHITHOLE SHITTY ("CITY"), IN THIS OVERTAXED AND OVERZONED SHITHOLE SHTATE.
Rest for awhile, but always rise again. And stay on guard and reject external input..
Sincerely,
Jerry Volland
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 07:10:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERMANENT PEACE IN LIFE, IS PRICELESS.
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PERMANENT PEACE IN LIFE, IS PRICELESS:
IF LIFE COULD ONLY PERMANENTLY TURN AROUND
FOR THE BETTER, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS FOR THE
WORSE.
PERMANENT PEACE IN LIFE, IS PRICELESS.
CLYDE
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 3 07:34:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
Message-ID: <20051003.073250.19271.30290@webmail16.lax.untd.com>
Actually, it was Clinton who supported the God King in the Vatican.Bush doesn't care what the "sweet Christ on earth" Pope says. (Their term)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 08:48:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 08:48:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IN REPLY TO BOTH MIKE, AND TO JOHN....
Message-ID: <20051003154827.64485.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE AND JOHN,
SINCE I AM SO OVERWHELMED WITH E-MAIL
REPLIES, AND MY HEALTH HAS GONE TO HELL;
THIS WILL BE MY REPLY TO THE RESPONSES
THAT BOTH OF YOU SENT BACK TO ME, THE OTHER
DAY.
MIKE; YOU DIDN'T RAIN ON MY PARADE; MY PARADE
HAS BEEN RAINED ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME
NOW ALREADY, AND SO IT IS NOTHING NEW TO ME.
I AM SO FRUSTRATED NOW AT THE LACK OF
PROGRESS IN AMERICA, AND AM SO FRUSTRATED
WITH ALL OF THE WORTHLESS SHIT THAT COMES
OUT OF CHINA, THAT I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO
INTEREST IN SELLING TO THE FUCKING AVERAGE
FUCKING CONSUMER.
JOHN; YES; I AM SEARCHING FOR A SPECIAL NICHE
MARKET; OR SEVERAL SPECIAL NICHE MARKETS.
HELL; MAYBE EVEN TO THE MILITARY AS WELL; I
DON'T KNOW EXACTLY!
MIKE; ABOUT TESLA AND EDISON:
YES; I AM LIKE TESLA, IN THAT I AM A DAMNED FOOL
ABOUT MARKETING; KNOWLEDGE-LESS ABOUT
MARKETING.
YES; EDISON WAS A MARKETING GENIUS AND
TESLA WAS A TECHNICAL GENIUS.
I DON'T KNOW SHAMPOO FROM SHIT THOUGH, ABOUT
MARKETING STRATEGIES AND SO FORTH; AND
SO, I NEED ALL OF THE HELP THAT I CAN GET ALONG
THOSE LINES, FROM YOU ALL, AND FROM OTHERS TOO.
NO ONE HAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING IN LIFE
IN ANY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT ENTIRETY ALONE BY
THEMSELVES.
IF ANYONE THINKS OTHERWISE TO THAT, THEY ARE
ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES.
TESLA WAS SUCCESSFUL WITH THE 60 CYCLE POWER
GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, ONLY WITH
GEORGE WESTINGHOUSE'S ASSITANCE, WHILE HE WAS
SCREWED BY EDISON, AFTER BUILDING 24 DIFFERENT
TYPES OF A.C. MOTOR-GENERATORS FOR EDISON.
MOSTLY EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN OR HEARD
ABOUT THOMAS EDISON IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT;
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY COMMERCIALISM.
THE ONLY THINGS THAT I KNOW OF, REGARDING
EDISON, ARE HIS CREATION OF THE INCANDESCENT
BULB, HIS QUOTATION: "GENIUS IS ONE PERCENT
INSPIRATION, AND NINETY NINE PERCENT PERSPIRATION",
AND ANOTHER QUOTE IN WHICH HE SAYS: "THE DOCTOR
OF THE FUTURE WILL GIVE NO MEDICINE, BUT WILL
INTEREST HIS PATIENTS IN THE CARE OF THE HUMAN
FRAME; IN DIET; AND IN THE CAUSE OF THE PREVENTION
OF DISEASE.".
THE INCANDESCENT BULB IS A GOOD CREATION; I GIVE
EDISON THAT CREDIT; YET IT IS VERY INEFFICIENT IN
COMPARISON TO TESLA'S HIGH VOLTAGE IONIZED GAS
LIGHTING.
THE EDISON BULB IS A TREMENDOUS WASTE OF HEAT
ENERGY; ALTHOUGH THAT HEAT ENERGY IS SOMETIMES
USEFUL DURING THE COOL FALL, AND THE COLD WINTER
MONTHS; IT IS OTHERWISE NO GOOD: ENERGY WISE,
DURING THE SPRING AND SUMMER MONTHS, FOR IT'S
'WASTEFUL' HEAT ENERGY RADIATION OUTPUT.
I HAVE NEVER AGREED WITH EDISON'S QUOTE: GENIUS
IS ONE PERCENT INSPIRATION, AND NINETY NINE PERCENT
PERSPIRATION; WHY??? : BECAUSE IT IS NOT APPLICABLE
TO THAT PHRASE THAT SAYS: WORK SMARTER, AND NOT
HARDER.
THE OTHER EDISON QUOTE; I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH! :
THE DOCTOR OF THE FUTURE WILL GIVE NO MEDICINE,
BUT WILL INTEREST HIS PATIENTS IN THE CARE OF THE
HUMAN FRAME; IN DIET; AND IN THE CAUSE OF THE
PREVENTION OF DISEASE.
WEBLINK:
http://www.omnicronelectronics.com/analog/TimeClock.htm
SHORTWAVE STATION: W.W.V. ; AND THE OMNICRON
ELECTRONICS, MODEL TCC-14 (WEBLINK ABOVE), HAVE
BEEN MY INFLUENCES IN THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT.
YES; I AM SEARCHING FOR A SPECIFIC NICHE TYPE OF
MARKET FOR THE TALKING CLOCK.
PERHAPS MAINLY FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES, SUCH AS
IN EDUCATIONAL AND HOSPITAL; BUT FOR USES ALSO,
IN BROADCASTING (FACILITIES), AIRPORTS, AND FOR
PRIVATE EXPERIMENTAL PURPOSES AS WELL.
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
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TO THOSE OF INTEREST,
WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REVISION AT THIS TIME,
OF MY 'PROPOSED' MARKET STUDY, I AM SENDING
THIS OUT, AS IT IS, IN ITS PRESENT FORMAT.
IF IT NEEDS FURTHER REVISION; PLEASE LET ME
KNOW.
THANKS SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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GENERAL MARKET STUDY FOR A PROFESSIONAL
G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK:
Hello;
I'm Clyde Lofton.
This work is toward the creation of a
minimalistic designed, American made,
American quality, Professional G.P.S.
Synchronous Talking Clock, which will be
synchronizable to the Global Positioning
System upon its completion, for combined
useage with a Global Positioning System
receiver, to keep perfect time accuracy,
using voice announcements of the correct
time of night and day, when set correctly.
The talking clock should be designed with as
few features as possible, for both simplicity in
its useage, and to keep the manufacturing and
sales expenses and costs to a minimum.
The talking clock should have its own internal
quartz crystal oscillator, to give it the ability for
use as a stand alone clock by itself, or use as a
voltage controlled clock, in synchronocity to the
Global Positioning System, so that the clock
should have the ability to be continually updated
to the Universal Coordinated Time / Universal
Time Coordination (U.T.C.), clock time code
standard, originating at the National Institute of
Standards And Technology, to keep the talking
clock set to its correct time, at all times.
The Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock
should be designed to have voltage control triggering
of the correct current hour, minute, and minutes, once
every minute, at the bottom of every minute, and every
hour, at the top of every hour, with a minimum of two
audio output's; One audio output for constant voice
time output; The other audio output for time when
needed, at the press of a button.
To insure that the Professional G.P.S. Synchronous
Talking Clock can be a success; I am doing this
general market study, to receive all feedback response,
to the following questions:
1. Would all potential markets be interested in a
talking clock unit, that is manufactured in the
United States, using only the highest of quality
parts, components, and materials?
A talking clock unit that is built with the highest
of integrity in its workmanship, and one that is
always reliable, and on perfect time, when
connected as part of the Global Positioning System?
Circle: YES or NO
2. What would all potential markets be willing to
pay, for an American integrity quality, professional,
user friendly, talking clock unit?
Here is an example:
The Omnicron Electronics model TCC-14, talking
clock/calendar unit, sells for $445.00, when
purchased brand new.
The Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock
should either be comparable in cost to the Omnicron
Electronics talking clock/calendar unit, or should be
lower in cost to the Omnicron Electronics talking
clock/calendar unit, in order to be afforded by those
who have budgets which are very small.
What price range would all potential markets be
willing to pay, for an American integrity quality, user
friendly, professional, rackmountable cased, talking
clock unit?
The potential price should be in the range of: $200.00
to $400.00; Not including the expense for a seperate,
more or less expensive, Global Positioning System
receiver controller, for the needed voltage control, to
keep the time of the talking clock always set correctly,
to the Universal Coordinated Time code standard.
Please put the amount below, giving your thought, on
what an acceptable price might be, for a quality, yet
not overly complex, and not overly expensive,
professional talking clock:
$ .
Thank you very much for all of your cooperation in this
survey.
Sincerely, Clyde Lofton
Tulsa, Oklahoma
U.S.A.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 09:53:28 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 09:53:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051003.073250.19271.30290@webmail16.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051003165328.85144.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
" thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Actually, it was Clinton who supported the God King in the Vatican.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE GOINGS ON, IN THE VATICAN.
IS THERE A CLERGY MEMBER, THAT HAS EVEN HIGHER AUTHORITY
THAN THE POPE???
Bush doesn't care what the "sweet Christ on earth" Pope says. (Their term)
BUSH MUST BE ALL FOR THE ANTI-CHRIST THEN, SINCE HE
HAS MADE A COMPLETE ASS OUT OF THE UNITED DIVIDED
NATIONS, AND HAS BANKRUPTED THE NOW UNITED DIVIDED
STATES; BUT THAT APPEARS TO BE IN THE STRUCTURAL PLAN,
FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND DISORDER THAT WE ARE
NOW LIVING IN.
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 3 11:59:10 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 3 11:59:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Facts on Edison
Message-ID: <007001c5c84c$8a40a810$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Joseph Swan demonstrated the incandescent light bulb to the Royal Academy in
London several years before Edison "invented" it. Thomas Alva Edison did
NOT invent the light bulb, contrary to popular belief, that was Swan!
Neither did Edison invent the dynamo! That was Michael Faraday.
So what DID Edison do? Well, he found a way to market Faraday's electricity
and Swan's lamp!
He also stiffed a young employee out of $10,000 (quite the princely sum, in
those days) he promised him for doing a job. The young employee's name?
Nikola Tesla. This is what caused Tesla's hatred for Edison, Tesla leaving
Edison for Westinghouse, the War of the Currents, and eventually, when Tesla
won the Edison Award, he never arrived at the banquet to collect his award-
George Westinghouse found Tesla, dressed in tie and tails, feeding his
beloved pigeons in Central Park.
I give Edison credit for one, and ONLY one, original invention- the
corporate research and development laboratory. That invention is indeed a
major step forward, it made private inventors' intellectual property the
property of their employers, and it accelerated to pace of technological
development. Without the Menlo Park labs of Edison, we would never have had
Bell Labs, the transistor, the IC, or the personal computer, among many,
many other technologies we take for granted today.
Clyde, I think you need some pigeons. Not necessarily birds, but some pets
that you can love and will love you back. I have cats. Tesla had his
pigeons. But all us Mad Scientists need our pigeons to relax with.
-Mike
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From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 3 12:19:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Marketing idea for clock
Message-ID: <007301c5c84f$69e2ccd0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Clyde-
Check out http://www.K0BGH.com/
He sells a truly niche product, a upgrade kit for the Swan 117X power
supply. For all the non-hams out there, Swan Electronics produced, from the
mid-sixties to the late seventies, some of the finest tube-model amateur
radio transceivers ever built. The 117X was the power supply for most all
of them.
After thirty years, Swans are still on the air, and routinely sell at or
near their original price. My rig is a Swan Model 350, and it outperforms
and sounds much better on the air than any modern Yeasu, Icom, or Kenwood
rig. It was built in 1967!
Swan Electronics has been out of business for thirty years, so keeping these
radios on the air is up to the individual. But K0BGH has designed and built
this upgrade kit to bring the power supply up to current technology.
He sells a prefab PC board, a bag of parts, and instructions. His cost is
less than $10.
Follow his example- make a "clock kit," like the Heathkit "Most Accurate
Clock." Advertise it to the niche market you target, like K0BGH advertises
on the Swan-Network listserver. And sell it online, with low overhead.
Do not expect high volume sales, but this can generate high margins, with
low up-front costs. K0BGH keeps the PC templates, and contracts for
manufacturing about fifty boards at a time (the minimum order). He buys
parts to bag up as orders come in. The instructions can be Xeroxed.
And this is benefit selling! He sells the benefit of making the customer's
Swan power supply robust, more powerful, and extending the lifetime of the
rig- all things a Swan user desires.
=Mike
From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Oct 3 20:50:43 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 3 20:52:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
Message-ID: <20051003.205056.26382.43535@webmail29.lax.untd.com>
Mr. Lofton:
You asked:
Is there a clergyman in the Vatican with higher authority than the Pope?
I'm not familiar with the Vatican hierarchy, but I would imagine that the Pope, as the Father who was in Heaven (as they see it), is at the top. However, since John Paul II (the anti-Pope) did not achieve antipode - but only decieved the other clergymen that he did accomplish this 'great sign' himself - Father Christ Benedict does not actually resonate the Father which is still in heaven. Emmanuel, the historical Jesus figure said that he didn't perform any miracles, all he did was "see what" his "father in Heaven did". So, the Pope can't actually be the God King on Earth until he resonates this being, with antipode. Even the boys at Sandia haven't got antipode, which is a transtemporal effect, although they've got just about everything else.
Also, Bush doesn't support the anti-christ. He said they have a new game plan and that "the Woman" (ishtar) is out. That's why he's cleaning up the mideast from the outside in, rather than starting in Israel and having to deal with all the surrounding militaries who would join in. It's much easier to eliminate the surrounding armies first, one at a time.
Regards,
Jerry Volland
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 21:35:46 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 21:35:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051003.205056.26382.43535@webmail29.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051004043546.88116.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
MR. VOLLAND,
THAT'S SOME PRETTY STRANGE STUFF.
I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'VE
WANTED TO EXPERIMENT WITH ALUMINUM,
OPEN TELECOM RELAY RACKS; RETROFITTING
THEM WITH SPECIFIC, HIGH VELOCITY
GYROSCOPES, IN CERTAIN WELDED
GEOMETRIES, TO DO ANTI-GRAVITY
EXPERIMENTS; PERHAPS USING STEPPER
MOTORS, OR OTHER MOTOR TYPES, TO DRIVE
THE GYROSCOPES.
ARE YOU KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHAT THE
MOST SUPERIOR SMALL ELECTRIC MOTORS
WOULD NEED TO BE, TO DRIVE GYROSCOPES?
THE DRIVING MOTORS WOULD NEED TO BE AS
LIGHTWEIGHT AS POSSIBLE, TO USE TO DRIVE
THE GYROSCOPES AT HIGH ANGULAR VELOCITIES,
AND HIGH TORQUE AT THE SAME TIME; I DO KNOW
THAT MUCH;
BUT I'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
EXPERIMENT WITH STEPPER MOTORS; SO I'M NOT
SHURE IF THOSE ARE THE MOST IDEAL TYPE OF
MOTORS TO USE, TO DRIVE GYROSCOPES.
WELL; I'M REALLY TIRED RIGHT NOW, AND JUST
PURCHASED ONE OF THOSE ELECTROMECHANICAL
RESONANT BACK MASSAGERS THIS AFTERNOON, TO
HELP AND RELAX, FROM ALL OF THE HYPERTENSION
STRESS OVERKILL IN MY LIFE; IT'S ONE OF THE
TYPE THAT WILL LAY FLAT ON A BED, OR LAY ON
RECLINING CHAIRS.
GOTTA GO FOR NOW;
I'LL REPLY BACK MORE TOMORROW, IF I'M ABLE TO.
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
" thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Mr. Lofton:
You asked:
Is there a clergyman in the Vatican with higher authority than the Pope?
I'm not familiar with the Vatican hierarchy, but I would imagine that the Pope, as the Father who was in Heaven (as they see it), is at the top. However, since John Paul II (the anti-Pope) did not achieve antipode - but only decieved the other clergymen that he did accomplish this 'great sign' himself - Father Christ Benedict does not actually resonate the Father which is still in heaven. Emmanuel, the historical Jesus figure said that he didn't perform any miracles, all he did was "see what" his "father in Heaven did". So, the Pope can't actually be the God King on Earth until he resonates this being, with antipode. Even the boys at Sandia haven't got antipode, which is a transtemporal effect, although they've got just about everything else.
Also, Bush doesn't support the anti-christ. He said they have a new game plan and that "the Woman" (ishtar) is out. That's why he's cleaning up the mideast from the outside in, rather than starting in Israel and having to deal with all the surrounding militaries who would join in. It's much easier to eliminate the surrounding armies first, one at a time.
Regards,
Jerry Volland
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 22:30:51 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 3 22:31:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Marketing idea for clock
Message-ID: <20051004053051.82013.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE,
WHAT I NEED IS A SORT OF HYBRID, BETWEEN
AN AUDIO METRONOME, AND THE MODEL
TCC-14; SHOWN AT THE FOLLOWING WEBLINKS::
1. http://www.metronomeonline.com/ (With the metronome
set to approximately 46, or 48 beats per minute; Except in
the case of my proposed talking clock; The talking clock
would need voltage control synchronocity, to the N.I.S.T.
seconds standard, in Fort Collins; and:)
2. http://www.omnicronelectronics.com/analog/TimeClock.htm (I
would want the exact same voice synthesis chip as the TCC-14
talking clock, except that the clock would need to announce the
time only at the bottom of every minute, and at the top of every
hour; Without the annoying repettition of the TCC-14; And without
the beep before each time announcement of the TCC-14; And
without the annoying constant oscillator tones, that are transmitted,
on W.W.V.)
THE THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT W.W.V. , ARE THE
COMBINATIONS OF THE SHITTINESS OF A.M. SHORTWAVE
BROADCAST SHITTY SOUND, AND THE CONSTANT
ANNOYING OSCILLATOR TONES THAT THEY TRANSMIT,
WITH THE SECOND MARKER TICKS.
THE TONES ARE THERE FOR MUSICIANS, AS I WAS INFORMED
OF, SO THAT THEY CAN TUNE THEIR GUITARS AND OTHER
INSTRUMENTS TO THE CORRECT TONE FREQUENCIES,
BUT TO THE CASUAL LISTENER, LIKE MYSELF; THOSE TONES
ARE BOTH ANNOYING, AND USELESS.
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Clyde-
Check out http://www.K0BGH.com/
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT HE COULD BUILD A QUALITY TALKING CLOCK
WITH THE DEMANDS THAT I HAVE; FAIRLY INEXPENSIVELY?
He sells a truly niche product, a upgrade kit for the Swan 117X power
supply. For all the non-hams out there, Swan Electronics produced, from the
mid-sixties to the late seventies, some of the finest tube-model amateur
radio transceivers ever built. The 117X was the power supply for most all
of them.
After thirty years, Swans are still on the air, and routinely sell at or
near their original price. My rig is a Swan Model 350, and it outperforms
and sounds much better on the air than any modern Yeasu, Icom, or Kenwood
rig. It was built in 1967!
Swan Electronics has been out of business for thirty years, so keeping these
radios on the air is up to the individual. But K0BGH has designed and built
this upgrade kit to bring the power supply up to current technology.
He sells a prefab PC board, a bag of parts, and instructions. His cost is
less than $10.
Follow his example- make a "clock kit," like the Heathkit "Most Accurate
Clock." Advertise it to the niche market you target, like K0BGH advertises
on the Swan-Network listserver. And sell it online, with low overhead.
Do not expect high volume sales, but this can generate high margins, with
low up-front costs. K0BGH keeps the PC templates, and contracts for
manufacturing about fifty boards at a time (the minimum order). He buys
parts to bag up as orders come in. The instructions can be Xeroxed.
And this is benefit selling! He sells the benefit of making the customer's
Swan power supply robust, more powerful, and extending the lifetime of the
rig- all things a Swan user desires.
OK.
I'M TIRED.
I NEED TO GO FOR NOW.
MY BREATHING IS REALLY SHALLOW RIGHT NOW,
AND MY BRAIN IS NOT GETTING ENOUGH OXYGEN.
I DON'T FEEL ALL THAT GREAT.
LATER; (73); CLYDE
=Mike
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Oct 3 23:03:50 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 3 23:05:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
Message-ID: <20051003.230418.23456.43834@webmail15.lax.untd.com>
Mr. Lofton:
I'm glad you think the anti-christ bullshit is strange. The Bible does say that the prophesies are designed to fail. And the Vatican says the Bible is designed for "public consumption" and that only THEY have the true information.
About your gyroscope:
Just get an old CD player from the thrift store and take out the motor, CD platter and all, then use crazy glue to glue an extra AOL CD to the platter. The little motor will run on from 9 to 12 volts DC and makes a really effective gyro with the disc attached.
Let me know how your ideas work, or at least what they are. If you want, you can see how my idea worked:
http://www.inter-corporate.com/perl/inter-corporate/forums/forum=InertialPropulsion.Engineering&view=msg&number=771
Or go to inter-corporate.com/InertialPropulsion.Engineering and check message number 771
Laithwaite put a gyro on a swing mounted on a wheeled base. When the gyro swung forwards, it pulled the cart forwards about two feet.
Remember when you coined the phrase "angular gyroscopic propulsion"? I included it on my website, in the Split Gyroscope file on the Inertia Prime Mover page. Thanks again.
Regards,
Jerry Volland
www.spaceoffice.us
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Oct 3 23:07:17 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 3 23:08:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
Message-ID: <20051003.230721.23456.43847@webmail15.lax.untd.com>
I've discovered that it's possible to build a geodesic dome based upon a square and a pentagon, rather than the usual pentagon and hexagon. The dome can be constructed by crossing two popsicle sticks (from Walmart) in an 'X' to make the square and crossing three sticks in an 'A' to form the pentagon. Make sure that all five sides of the 'A' are equal (using the first one for a pattern), then tie the 'X's and 'A's together, while adding the outter ribs as you go along. When finished, tweak the shape, then take the ropes off one at a time and glue the joints. Finally, trim off the parts that stick out. Using this technique, you can cut a sheet of plywood into 1 1/4" strips, which will give you enough strips to build a dome which is more than 8' in each direction. Then, when you add an airtight cover, you'll have an inexpensice space ship hull which only weighs about as much as a sheet of plywood, plus the cover. The interior deck will be the only part which has to have s
tructural strength.
With three or four sheets, you'll have a nice little cabin which you can cover with canvas, then spray with a type of concrete called gunnite. -JV
From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Oct 3 23:56:08 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 3 23:57:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Stress Relief
Message-ID: <20051003.235610.28546.44032@webmail12.lax.untd.com>
Mr. Lofton:
I see by your recent posts that you're suffering from severe stress at this time, and that you're having breathing difficulties.
First and foremost, you should remember that this is a situation, rather than a condition. This will empower you to some extent, since it's possible to change a situation.
The most important thing you can do to reduce stress is to correct your breathing. The way the rib cage is designed, the only part of your chest which should move is the floating ribs. The way to use them is to contract the ribs on the sides at the bottom as you exhale. When you breathe, you should always do this first. That way, when you relax, the inhale will be automatic. (Be careful with this, since it can cause hyperventillation, even with the depleted levels of oxygen in the air.) Also, a "philosopher" is defined both as someone who stays calm in a stressful situation, and as someone who breathes with their feet. To do this, bow the arches of your feet upwards as you exhale, then relax them as you inhale. Using this technique, it's possible to breathe without moving your chest at all.
You should always hear yourself breathe. That way, you won't forget to do it.
Respectfully yours,
Jerry Volland
Back to business
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 06:43:49 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 06:44:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051003.230418.23456.43834@webmail15.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051004134349.37331.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
" thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Mr. Lofton:
I'm glad you think the anti-christ bullshit is strange. The Bible does say that the prophesies are designed to fail.
GOOD! ; BECAUSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE ISN'T ABSOLUTE.
JUST LIKE DOC BROWN IN BACK TO THE FUTURE III SAYS: THE FUTURE ISN'T WRITTEN YET!
IT ISN'T!
And the Vatican says the Bible is designed for "public consumption" and that only THEY have the true information.
STILL THEY - (THE VATICAN) - FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH!
About your gyroscope:
Just get an old CD player from the thrift store and take out the motor, CD platter and all, then use crazy glue to glue an extra AOL CD to the platter. The little motor will run on from 9 to 12 volts DC and makes a really effective gyro with the disc attached.
I DON'T SEE A C.D. PLAYER MOTOR AS ABLE TO PRODUCE ENOUGH LIFT; EXCEPT TO LIFT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY VERY EXTREMELY SMALL.
I'D LIKE TO BUY PROFESSIONAL ELECTROMECHANICAL, HIGH ANGULAR VELOCITY / HIGH TORQUE GYROS, TO EXPERIMENT WITH; LIKE ONE'S THAT
THE MILITARY USE.
THEY ARE PROBABLY VERY VERY DAMNED EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE THOUGH.
Let me know how your ideas work, or at least what they are. If you want, you can see how my idea worked:
http://www.inter-corporate.com/perl/inter-corporate/forums/forum=InertialPropulsion.Engineering&view=msg&number=771
I TRIED THE ABOVE LINK, AND IT DIDN'T WORK.
Or go to:
http://www.inter-corporate.com/InertialPropulsion.Engineering
and check message number 771
OK, NEXT I'LL TRY THE ABOVE LINK.
Laithwaite put a gyro on a swing mounted on a wheeled base. When the gyro swung forwards, it pulled the cart forwards about two feet.
OK.
I HAVEN'T READ ABOUT THAT ANYWHERE.
Remember when you coined the phrase "angular gyroscopic propulsion"?
YEP!
I included it on my website, in the Split Gyroscope file on the Inertia Prime Mover page.
COOL MAN.
Thanks again.
YOU'RE WELCOME;
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
Regards,
Jerry Volland
www.spaceoffice.us
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 06:56:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 06:56:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: TIA Daily -- October 3,
2005 -- Republican Party Suicide Watch
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PARTIAL LIST OF THE TIA DAILY, TO PASS ALONG.
MIKE INRODUCED ME TO IT; AND IT HAS BEEN
GOOD TO READ PARTS OF.
I EDITED IT SLIGHTLY.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
TIA Daily < editor@TIADaily.com > wrote:
TIA Daily -- October 3, 2005
Republican Party Suicide Watch:
For a long time, TIA Daily has held a "Democratic Party Death Watch" detailing the ideological and political decline of the left. Now we're starting a Republican Party Suicide Watch--detailing the crisis faced by a party when its leaders betray their claimed devotion to "small government."
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2. The Real Freedom Fighters, Part 1.
6. Republican Party Suicide Watch.
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2. The Real Freedom Fighters, Part 1:
The mainstream media, which supposedly admires "freedom fighters" struggling against oppression, has imposed an unofficial media blackout on today's most important freedom fighters: the students, journalists, and intellectuals who oppose Iran's Islamic theocracy. But one upstart conservative newspaper, the New York Sun, has made a crusade of covering Iran's courageous dissidents.
This interview with a student dissident is especially important because it contains the first statement by a dissident leader calling for funding from the US to aid in the overthrow of Iran's regime. It is more evidence that the attempt by hardliners to seize power in Iran is hardening resistance to the regime and brining the conflict between theocrats and reformers to a crisis.
http://tinyurl.com/99ogk
6. Republican Party Suicide Watch:
The most interesting domestic policy debate right now is not between the left and the right. It is within the right, and it is about whether or not conservatives stand for "small government"--not an exact term, but the closest stand-in for capitalism. The Wall Street Journal has been leading the charge, with editorials like the one below taking the administration and congressional leaders to task for their wild spending spree.
For their part, the big-government conservatives haven't had much to say, beyond Tom DeLay's obvious lie that Congress had already cut government spending as much as they can. The big-government conservatives have contradicted their own claims about their political intentions, and without an ideological foundation to stand on, they have been thrown onto the defensive.
http://tinyurl.com/alsvk
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 08:20:28 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 08:20:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: NASA Tech Briefs INSIDER 10/04/05
In-Reply-To: <20051004061259.GA18068@listserv.abpi.net>
Message-ID: <20051004152028.99843.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
IS ALL OF THIS SHIT ABOUT DESIGN AND WIN, A JOKE?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 08:33:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 08:33:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) POTENTIAL MARKETS.
Message-ID: <20051004153301.97307.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
(REVISED:)
POTENTIAL MARKETS:
TALKING CLOCK BEACONS FOR:
1. LOW POWER MARINE AND MARINA BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS.
2. AMATEUR RADIO.
4. N.A.S.A. (NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION).
5. N.I.S.T. (NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY).
6. N.O.A.A. (NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION).
7. COAST GUARD LOW POWER BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS.
8. WEATHER STATIONS.
9. HOSPITAL INSTITUTIONS.
10. SECURITY GUARD POSTS, AND STATIONS.
11. AIRPORTS.
12. BUS DEPOTS.
13. TRAIN STATION-DEPOTS.
14. EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
15. THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY.
16. THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.
17. ETC. ETC. ETC.
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA, U.S.A.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 10:34:15 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 10:34:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship.
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Message-ID: <20051004173415.25518.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
" thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
I've discovered that it's possible to build a geodesic dome based upon a
square and a pentagon, rather than the usual pentagon and hexagon.
The dome can be constructed by crossing two popsicle sticks (from Walmart)
in an 'X' to make the square and crossing three sticks in an 'A' to form the
pentagon.
OK.
Make sure that all five sides of the 'A' are equal (using the first one for a pattern),
then tie the 'X's and 'A's together, while adding the outer ribs as you go along.
When finished, tweak the shape, then take the ropes off one at a time and glue
the joints. Finally, trim off the parts that stick out. Using this technique, you
can cut a sheet of plywood into 1 1/4" strips, which will give you enough strips
to build a dome which is more than 8' in each direction. Then, when you add an
airtight cover, you'll have an inexpensive space ship hull which only weighs about
as much as a sheet of plywood, plus the cover.
OK.
The interior deck will be the only part which has to have structural strength.
I'VE DONE SOME THINKING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTS OF THE
INTERNAL STRUCTURAL SUPPORTTING FOR THE INTERIOR OF ALL
SPACESHIP HULLS, AND HAVE WONDERED WHAT THE MINIMUM
HULL THICKNESS OF ALL SPACESHIPS WOULD NEED TO BE;
(THE OUTER METAL, OR ANOTHER MATERIAL, SUCH AS THE
GUNNITE MATERIAL THAT YOU MENTION BELOW), AND WHAT THE
STRENGTH OF THE INTERNAL HULL SUPPORT STRUCTURE WOULD
HAVE TO BE, TO BE BOTH PRESSURE STABLE, IN SPACE, AND FOR
SURVIVAL IN SPACE - PREVENTING ANY ATMOSPHERIC LEAKAGE
OF BREATHABLE OXYGEN, AND OTHER NECESSARY GASSES.
With three or four sheets, you'll have a nice little cabin which you can cover with
canvas, then spray with a type of concrete called gunnite. -JV
OK; LIKE DO TRY IT, BUT AM UNABLE TO AFFORD IT AT THIS TIME IN MY
LIFE.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 18:05:45 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 18:05:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY NEIGHBORS HAVE VIOLATED UNITED STATES BILL OF
RIGHTS: AMENDMENT: 4.
Message-ID: <20051005010545.99342.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE OFFICIALLY VIOLATED AMENDMENT
# 4, OF THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS; WITH THEIR
ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE OF THIS RESIDENCE, AND WITH
THEIR POLICE AND MEDIA CIRCUS THAT THEY CARRIED
OUT LAST WEEK.
I WOULDN'T DOUBT IT NOW, IF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE
HOUSE THAT HAS PARTIAL BACK TO BACK BACKYARD
WITH THIS RESIDENCE COULD BE C.I.A. INHABITED.
AMERICA HAS BECOME A VERY UNFREE COUNTRY,
UNDER THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT; WITH THE
CURRENT COMMUNIST NEOLIB, AND THE FASCIST NEOCON
WAR, THAT IS PLAINLY FUCKING THIS COUNTRY UP THE
ASS.
I HATE TO BE SO EXPLICIT; BUT:
I WANT PEACE.
PERMANENT PEACE!
PEACE,
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 18:31:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALLERGIES.
Message-ID: <20051005013141.10737.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
1. CHEMICAL ALLERGIES.
2. FOOD ALLERGIES.
AND:
3. AIR POLLUTION ALLERGIES
FROM THE 24 TO 7 TRAVELLED
ROADWAYS WITHIN THE
SQUARE MILE SURROUNDING
THIS WASTELAND SLUMBURB;
THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB
SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE
INDUSTRIAL SLUM FOREVER
HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO-
NOWHERE FAST, WHERE
PROGRESS AND SUCCESS
NEVER EVER LAST; INDUSTRIAL
SLUM BUSINESS SO-CALLED
PARK.
SICK, AND TIRED, AND FRUSTRATED
AS HELL ITSELF,
CLYDE
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Tue Oct 4 20:23:44 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Tue Oct 4 20:25:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Caduceus
Message-ID: <20051004.202444.13694.9592@webmail23.lax.untd.com>
Mr. Lofton:
Thanks for sending me the link showing the frustrated doctor pointing the bottom of a caduceus at his patient. Aside from the fact that he's using the wrong part of the device, the concept appears to have some merit.
http://www.inmagine.com/bstock048/s1458006-photo
Royal Rife showed that all diseases, including cancer, can be cured by resonating the micro organisms with the right frequency until they overheat and explode. (He identified more than 70,000 of these specific frequencies. You can generate these frequencies with your Sound Blaster card, using software posted on KeelyNet.) The caduceus gives off a kind of energy which may do this same thing, but the energy is released from the part of the central shaft which is just below the ball electrode, rather than from the bottom. With very short pulses, the top electrode acts as an isolated capacitance. After two or more pulses have charged the top load, it discharges back down the shaft, head-on into the next pulse. This back discharge produces a splatter energy effect, resulting in a type of Higher Energy known as Field Energy in which two electric fields overlap, with different phases.
Historically, the caduceus is known as the "staff of Hermes" and signifies flight - as does the similar ancient American Indian symbol known as the "Thunderbird". When three conductive plates are placed behind the device, having decreasing lengths, the differing voltages which quickly appear on the plates produce a longitudinal effect against the atmosphere, or some other dielectric such as parafin, resulting in thrust. NASA has recently released a patent on a similar effect:
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/lifters/act/html/2dacap.htm
I did a Web search, and no company is making or selling the caduceus, except as non-working ornaments. If you want to make your own, a good place to start is with a jeweler's screwdriver, since it has the nessecary ridges on the central shaft. Then add a big ball bearing on the top and a really little one, or a BB, on the bottom. The hard part will be making the complex tapers of the opposing spirals (which turn the same way, but are 180 out of phase). At the top, the spiral on the left bends outwards to face the end of the spiral on the right, introducing an additional phase shift. The device rotates counter clockwise, from the top, at a few RPM. The very short pulses needed to power the caduceus can be generated with a caduceus coil, in which the same wire is wrapped a few times around a soft iron coil in a wide spiral, then comes back the other way, with all of the crossing points lined up on each side. The hardware store sells rolls of tie wire, which are soft iron
, for around five bucks. Or you can place a hard drive magnet across a spark gap, which turns the spark purple, indicating extremely short pulses. The output wire of the spark gap, or coil, goes directly to the small sphere at the bottom of the device, since a caduceus will pull a current through a single wire circuit.
The caduceus is a Free Energy device, and has been called "the ultimate force controller". Now-a-days, they don't even use the spirals, but instead rely upon spiraling air currents. But you still need the ridges on the central shaft. This way, when a pulse going up the spiral electrode pulls a charge to the surface of the shaft, the charge can't follow the spiral around the shaft, so an additional charge is pulled on the adjacent ridge. Every time a charge is pulled, it sends a pulse, having opposite polarity, up the shaft to the top load. The low-powered, bi phase input at the bottom of the device splits when it reaches the spirals, and is pulled up the spirals automatically, as the taper enlarges for the first 270 degrees, increasing the capacitive surface area. This charge is then pulled to the blob at the end of the spiral, as a capacitance transfer effect, while, at the same time, the decreasing surface capacitance of the tapering spiral - through its last 90 degre
es - causes a voltage rise which more than offsets the voltage drop of the preceeding increasing taper, due to the shorter focal length. This, in conjunction with a groove on the end of the blob, causes the charge to radiate off the blobs. The energy interaction from the two blobs produces a type of force known as an octupole field. The Free Energy effect is caused by the enlarging diameter of the spirals. This produces a voltage gradient, relative to the central shaft, and this gradient accelerates the pulses going up the shaft, significantly increasing their power. When the charges traveling up the central shaft's ridges reach the top, the bi-phasic effect causes the charge on the top sphere to rotate, before discharging back down the shaft.
The saddest face in the world (a picture on the Plane of Nazca in Peru) is the Caduceus Man (Hermes?) who only has a head with the spark pattern for his body. The caduceus energy, when high powered, can blow the ectoplasm right out of your body. So be careful with this, or put it inside a metal container. The metal will block this kind of energy, since it's rotationally expansive - due to its phase pattern - rather than radial. This adverse spiritual effect may be why the medical profession uses a slightly different symbol for their emblem - a stick with a single snake wrapped around it and no ball on top. This artifact produces a different type of effect, with the 'snake head' pointing to the side adding its radial energy to the EM field released on that side by the central antenna. So this is the artifact to use with the Rife Frequencies.
It's ironic that the Egyptian know as Hermes Trismagistis - "three times as great as Hermes" - is referred to as "Hermes", the being he was superior to. When his tomb was found, the mummy was holding a placque which reads: "That which is above is below", the most important of the 7 Hermetic Axioms which also include "Nature abhors a vacuum". Hence, the Hermetic seal in which atmospheric pressure keeps the lid on a low pressure container.
Regards,
Jerry Volland
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 20:46:55 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 20:47:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: LISA-KRAFTWERK
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Message-ID: <20051005034655.86961.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
Hi Clyde-You ARE endlessly creative, rich or poor. Write the
things you long to do-down in a personal
journey (DO YOU MEAN JOURNAL????)
of self-discovery. Concoct written experiment protocols, i.e. Write down
exactly what you hypothesize and how you will go about proving your
hypothesis.
OK; I TRY TO DO SO, EVEN THOUGH I GET AS CONFUSED AS
HELL AT MANY TIMES, ABOUT LIFE, FROM THE SELLOUT OF THIS
COUNTRY TO COMMUNIST CRAP WORTHLESS SHODDY SHIT CHINA;
TO THE BILLIONS WASTED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST; TO THE VERY
BASIC SMALL THINGS THAT ALWAYS GO WRONG; "JUST BECAUSE
NATURE MADE THINGS THAT WAY"; NOT TO MENTION THE EFFECTS
OF GRAVITY TOO; (PERHAPS AN ENTIRELY SEPERATE SUBJECT);
AND ALSO BY THE DELIBERATE INTERFERENCE FROM OTHER
PEOPLE IN MY LIFE, ALWAYS INTENTIONALLY INTERFERING, AND
SCREWING THINGS UP IN LIFE.
I NO LONGER LIKE PEOPLE, FOR THE MOST PART.
PEOPLE TORMENT ME; THAT IS THE TORMENT THAT MY AUNT HAS
TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S BECAUSE I'M A VERY SENSITIVE PERSON; BECAUSE OF THE
ABUSE IN MY YOUTH; AND I DO HAVE A LOT OF CARE AND
CONCERN IN MY HEART, BUT MY HEART IS BROKEN, AND
BLACKENED, AND ALSO BLUE TOO.
You are aware of Grant-Writing are you not?
I KNOW GRANTS ARE GIVEN AWAY ALL OF THE TIME.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS ENDLESS RED TAPE THAT MAKES
THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING GRANTS, 'FOREVER' FUTILE
PROCESSES.
AND I KNOW THAT THOSE WHO GIVE THE GRANTS, BREATHE
DOWN YOUR NECK DURING ALL PHASES (OF "PROJECT-HOOD"),
AND IN THE END, THEY END UP OWNING ALL OF THE RIGHTS TO
YOUR COMPLETED PROJECTS, AND THEN, WHEN ALL OF THE
HARD WORKED EFFORT PUT IN TO THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED,
THE END RESULTS: FINANCIAL WISE, ARE IN ABSOLUTE VAIN;
THAT IS, UNLESS THE PROJECT IS DONE, SOLELY AND SPECIFICALLY
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CHALLENGE OF JUST DOING IT, AND
JUST FOR THE FUN OF THE DOING IT.
Every year our government approves research dollars to fund all sorts
of experiments, or plans or entities trying to perform a service or good.
N.I.S.T. (THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY)
GIVES GRANTS, FROM WHAT I'VE READ ON THEIR WEBSITE; YET I
DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THEM, REGARDING THE TALKING
CLOCK PROJECT THAT I'VE STUBBORNLY HAD IN MIND, FOR SO
DAMNED LONG NOW, BECAUSE I WANT IT DONE, AND I WANT IT DONE RIGHT! ; WITH AMERICAN QUALITY, EVEN IF IT MEANS SELLING IT TO
THE MILITARY, IF THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE.
Start studying GRANT-WRITING,
I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE TIME TO LOOK INTO THAT AREA.
IF IT'S THE EXACT SAME AREA OF LOOKING INTO MONEY GRANTS
THAT I'VE LOOKED INTO, IN THE PAST, IT IS THEN, COMPLETE VANITY
AND FUTILITY.
I'VE ALREADY LOOKED INTO GOVERNMENT MONEY GRANTS, AND
THE MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, APPEAR TO BE SCAMS.
I am starting to-I am terribly overwhelmed with ideas and things I am
working on, too! But as Sun Tzu said "Opportunities multiply as they are
siezed."
SEIZED!
I CAN GUARANTEE NOW THAT MY TALKING CLOCK IDEA HAS BEEN
SIEZED BY OTHERS OUT THERE, SINCE THIS HOME COMPUTER HAS
BEEN HACKED INTO, AND MY YAHOO ACCOUNT HAS ALSO BEEN
HACKED INTO AS WELL; I AM MOST CERTAIN OF THAT; FROM ALL
OF THE SPAM JUNK E-MAIL CRAP - MORE THAN LIKELY SPYWARE,
AND THINGS THAT ARE NORMALLLY SUPPOSED TO WORK RIGHT,
NOT ALWAYS WORKING RIGHT, LIKE THE ARROW OF THE MOUSE ON
THE SCREEN MAKING SUDDEN SPURIOUS JUMPS UPWARD, TO THE
TOP OF THE SCREEN, WHILE THE MOUSE ARROW IS STATIONARY
ON THE SCREEN; ALSO; THE HOURGLASS SIGN GOING ON, WHILE
THE MOUSE JUST SITS IDLE, IN ONE PLACE, WITHOUT ME DOING
ANYTHING; PROBABLY SOME HACKER(S) OUT THERE, LOCAL, OR
LONG DISTANCE, STEALING INFORMATION THAT I HAVE WRITTEN.
WE'LL PROBABLY SEE TALKING CLOCKS OF MY IDEA NOW, COMING
IMPORTED TO THE U.S. , FROM GARBAGELAND TURD WORLD
COUNTRY CHINA NOW.
I have found that the more I attempt the more ideas flow! Sieze
your opportunities. I know it is hard and you feel trapped,
YES; TRAPPED IS VERY CORRECT!
THEY'VE GOT ME TRAPPED.
THE POWERS THAT BE.
but use the powers you have, and they will increase.
I NEED PEACE, FIRST AND FOREMOST; THIS MOVING FASTER
THAN A SPEEDING BULLET THROUGH SPACE AND TIME, IN
MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT; BY BRAINSTORMING ALL OF THE TIME,
HAS GIVEN ME HYPERTENSION STRESS FROM HELL, FOR A
LONG TIME NOW, AND IS NOW ALSO TAKING ITS TOLL ON MY
PHYSICAL HEALTH TOO.
I read Clifford Pickover's newest book "Sex, Drugs,
I'M SICK; LITERALLY SICK, OF SEX AND DRUGS; THEY HAVE
RUINED MY LIFE.
Einstein and Elves"
EINSTEIN WAS COOL.
TESLA THOUGH, IS MY MAIN HERO, EVEN THOUGH HE DIED
PENNILESS AND POOR; HE IS STILL MY BIGGEST SCIENTIFIC
HERO, MICHAEL FARADAY TOO, IS ONE OF MY HEROS, ALSO
INNOVATORS LIKE PRESTON TUCKER, AND JOHN DELOREAN;
AND MODERN DAY HEROS, LIKE: HARRY TOOTLE AND HIS
BROTHER - CHARLIE TOOTLE; WITH THEIR L.P.T.V. STATION:
TOOTLEVISION AND THE WINNERS NEWS NETWORK, BACK
IN 91' TO 92', AND ALSO INVENTOR: TROY REED, AND HIS
POSITIVE INFLUENCE IN MY LIFE AS WELL, BACK IN 96' AND
97', WITH HIS EXPERIMENTATIONS IN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY,
AND OTHER INTERESTING EXPERIMENTAL TECHNOLOGIES.
AND ELVES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT ELVES.
he had some interesting things to say. see if you can find it at the
Library-or browse it in a bookstore-that's free.
IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT.
About Michio Kaku-lovely! He had a webpage-same as his name, I
believe (it's been awhile since I visited).
YEAH; I VISITED HIS WEBSITE A WHILE BACK, BUT IT WAS ALL
COMMERCIALISM ON HIS BOOKS; IT WAS STILL COOL THOUGH.
AND I EVEN WROTE A LETTER TO HIM AT THE NEW YORK CITY
COLLEGE OF NEW YORK, REALLY HOPING THAT I WOULD GET
A RESPONSE BACK FROM HIM; BUT NEVER GOT A REPLY.
HE'S PROBABLY SO OVERWHELMED WITH MAIL ALL OF THE
TIME; ESPECIALLY AFTER HIS RADIO INTERVIEWS WITH ART
BELL, AND GEORGE NOORY.
The Triple Chrome by ALACER (Brand of Vitamin maker) is
a timed release formula and it has Trivalent Chromium-composed of
Chromium Aspartate, Nicotinate and Ascorbate, along with a bit of
Manganese, Vitamin C and Calcium. I've found taking a LOT of it eased
my depression. However, I gladly added the Ultra-Mag and the Kreb's
Cycle Formula-and despite the monthly nuisance I did not descend into
PMS hatred or depression. (I used to be a TIME-BOMB).Who-hoooo!
OK.
I think the Theanine did the final trick though. It is an amino acid and is
VERY relaxing and MOOD Supportive. One capsule went a long way. I'm
pulling for you!
OK; I PURCHASED A BOTTLE OF L-THEANINE THIS EVENING, AT THE
LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE.
HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK YOU FIRST, WHAT
THE BEST TIMES AND FREQUENCIES OF TAKING IT ARE; AT DAY: IN THE MORNING, OR AT NIGHT: IN THE EVENING, BEFORE BEDTIME, BEFORE
I TRY IT OUT????
CAN YOU LET ME KNOW?
Oh, and Clyde-start blessing your Mother, not cursing her, she has
done all she is capable of-you'll be easier on yourself when
you go easier on her-try it.
IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO DO;
TALKING TO MY MOTHER IS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL; LIKE IT
WAS WHEN MIKE BEST WAS TRYING TO TALK TO BOB JULIANO, AND
ALL OF THEIR EXCHANGE WAS GOING NOWHERE, AND ONLY
ESCALATING INTO INSULT, AND FIGHTING CHALLENGES TOWARD
EACH OTHER.
I have a difficult relation with my Mother as well, she's not incompetent,
MY MOTHER IS REALLY INCOMPETENT, AS WAS MY DAD ON MANY
THINGS; AND MY MOTHER ENDLESSLY ARGUES THE SAME AS MY
FATHER HAD ALWAYS DONE, IN THE PAST; IT IS MOSTLY BECAUSE
OF THE GODFORSAKEN THING OF WHAT MONEY MATTERS CAUSE;
CONFLICT OF INTEREST; NOT TO MENTION STRESS, TOO.
BUT MY FATHER PASSED AWAY IN 99' ; SO HE'S GONE NOW; YET
IS STILL THERE IN MY MIND; WITH HIS ABUSE, ETC....
THERE WAS ONE TIME AT WORK, WHERE I WAS SO DAMNED PISSED,
THAT I SUCCESSFULLY OPENED UP A BLACK HOLE IN MY MIND; (A
REAL BLACK HOLE PRODUCES BOTH VACUUM ENERGY AND ANTI
SOUND, SIMULTANEOUSLY), AND I CAST MY DAD INTO THAT BLACK
HOLE, AND THEN DIRECTLY THEREAFTER, I DROPPED A NUKE BOMB
INTO THAT BLACK HOLE, DETONATING THE NUKE BOMB SHORTLY
AFTER CASTING MY FATHER INTO IT.
BUT I AM STILL ANGRY AT BOTH OF MY PARENTS, AND SEE NO END
IN SIGHT OF THE ANGER GOING FOREVER PEACEFULLY INTO
NONEXISTANCE FOREVER, UNLESS THERE ARE JUST MORE
ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE THAT ARE IN THE HERE AND NOW, BUT
THAT ARE BEING SUPPRESSED BY THE GREEDY POWER
KONTROLLERS WHO BE, SO THAT WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT EASILY
OBTAIN OR ATTAIN SUCH THINGS IN LIFE; SUCH THINGS WHICH ARE
ONLY OBTAINABLE AND ATTAINABLE BY THE WEALTHY ELITE OF
PLANET EARTH.
she's cruel and hurtful and jealous of me-I am continuing to pray for her-what
a small world she inhabits. I have a lot of writing to clean up and my house-
my daughter's and sons' things are EVERYWHERE!
I have very poor lung health
MY LUNG HEALTH HAS GONE TO HELL I THINK; FROM ALL OF THE
DAMNED PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT I'VE TAKEN; NAMELY VALPROIC
ACID: A.K.A. DEPOKOTE, AND CLONAZEPAM - KLONOPIN.
I THINK I PROBABLY HAVE AN OVERABUNDANCE OF CARBON DIOXIDE
IN MY LUNGS NOW; CARBON MONOXIDE ALSO PROBABLY EQUALLY
AS WELL; AND MY BREATHING IS NO LONGER AUTOMATIC MOST OF
THE TIME NOW; AND IT HURTS LIKE HELL A LOT OF THE TIME.
LIFE HAS BECOME A LOT OF ENDLESS NEVERENDING HELL.
and am overwhelmed
YEAH; OVERWHELMED!
I AM OVERWHELMED WITH ALL OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS NEVERENDING NONSENSICAL S--- WHICH MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER
AS LIFE.
sometimes with just the everyday cooking and cleaning.
Love Ya! Lisa
LOVE YA TOO!
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Tue Oct 4 21:20:14 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALLERGIES.
Message-ID: <20051004.211909.26438.60931@webmail10.lax.untd.com>
Hey Clyde, why don't you come out to Phoenix? The weather's really good this time of year (Great for allergies!), there's lots of work, and the rent's not too high. -Jerry
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 22:18:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 4 22:18:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALLERGIES.
In-Reply-To: <20051004.211909.26438.60931@webmail10.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051005051841.43355.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
" thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Hey Clyde, why don't you come out to Phoenix?
WELL; I'D LIKE TO TRAVEL TO COLORADO; TO BOTH COLORADO
SPRINGS, AND TO FORT COLLINS AND BOULDER, WHERE THE AIR IS
STILL CLEAN IN AMERICA; WHERE HEALTHY BREATHING IS STILL
POSSIBLE, IN AMERICA.
I'VE DREAMED OF MOVING TO, AND LIVING IN - COLORFUL COLORADO
FOR SO LONG NOW; BUT I'M LIVING BLINDLY, AND MONEY MATTERS AS
THEY ARE; MAKE LIVING INDEPENDENTLY HAPPY AND FREE, AN
IMPOSSIBLE THING TO DO, FOR THE MOST PART.
THE SHITTY OF TULSA IS SO DIRTY AS HELL ITSELF; PARTICULARLY IN
THIS RESIDENTIAL INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB; RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HELL,
AND THE INDUSTRIAL SLUM BUSINESS SO-CALLED PARK THAT
PARALLELS IT.
IT'S WHERE I'M CURRENTLY FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE, BECAUSE OF OVERWHELMINGLY STRESSFUL AND SENSELESS ENDLESS MONEY
MATTERS.
PEOPLE IN BOTH TULSA, AND IN OKLAHOMA, ARE ALWAYS MISERABLE
IT SEEMS.
The weather's really good this time of year (Great for allergies!), there's lots of
work, and the rent's not too high. -Jerry
I'M THE KIND OF GUY WHO NEEDS A SMALL PLOT OF LAND: AN ACRE
OR LESS; FOR A MICRO RANCH, WHERE I CAN BUILD MY OWN
GEODESIC DOME HOME, BUILT TO BE NATURAL DISASTER PROOF; BUILT
OUT OF CONCRETE AND ALUMINUM, OR PERHAPS MADE OF CONCRETE
AND STEEL;
AND TO ALSO OWN A MOLLER SKYCAR, TO CRUISE AT 900 M.P.H. ,
BETWEEN THE COUNTRYSIDE AND THE TOWN, OR THE CITY, OR THE
SHITTY.
I DON'T LIKE RENT; NEVER HAVE!
I'VE GOT NO LOVE FOR APARTMENTS, NOR FOR TRAILOR SO-CALLED
PARKS.
I'VE HAD MY BAD EXPERIENCES IN BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF PLACES;
APARTMENTS AND TRAILOR SO-CALLED PARKS, AND IT HAS TAUGHT ME
THAT REAL ESTATE IS THE WAY TO GO, WITH LAND ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF
CITY LIMITS, WHERE PROPERTY TAXES ARE LOW.
UNFORTUNATELY, MY CREDIT REPORT IS BAD, DUE TO LOSING MY SHIRT
IN A LIMOUSINE SO-CALLED BUSINESS ORDEAL, WHEN I HAD THE
INHERITANCE MONEY, FROM MY FATHER'S PASSING, BACK AFTER HE
PASSED AWAY, IN 99'.
MY FATHER LEFT BEHIND FOR ME, A GOOD LARGE SUM OF MONEY;
HOWEVER, HE DIDN'T LEAVE ANY WISDOM BEHIND ALONG WITH THAT
MONEY, TO INVEST THAT MONEY INTO WISE INVESTMENTS, AND SO I
ENDED UP PISSING THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY AWAY; A LOT OF
IT IN VAIN; BUT SOME GOOD INVESTMENTS; LIKE MY L.P.F.M.
BROADCAST RADIO STATION F.M. TRANSMITTER, AND OTHER STUDIO
EQUIPMENT.
I WISH I COULD BUILD MY EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE LAB LARGER TOO.
BUT OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, 'OVER'ZONATION
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND A SHITTY EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, IN
THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND OF TULSA OKLAHOMA,
PREVENT ME FROM GOING FAR AND FAST, AT CONTINUOUS DUTY.
I'M TIRED.
GONNA GO FOR NOW.
TALK TO YOU LATER,
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 5 14:58:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Drugs Dangerous tor Lung Health
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 5 16:14:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SICK....
Message-ID: <20051005231443.56230.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM SICK OF LOWER MIDDLE CLASS, AND LOWER
CLASS POVERTY, AND BAD HEALTH AND BAD HEALTH-
-SO-CALLED-CARE.
DR. MAHAFFEE; (MY PRIMARY CARE PHYCICIAN M.D.)
IS RIGHT DAMNED NEXT TO ABSOLUTE WORTHLESS,
AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE THAT I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 5 17:39:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 5 17:39:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Hope.
In-Reply-To: <4343FE4D.9060705@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <20051006003927.70777.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
Hi Clyde-I'm sorry you are hurting-I will pray for you with all my
heart. You are uniquely you and of great value. You have something to
share with all of us. so, I hope some of the info I have given you so
far will help.
YEAH; I'VE NOW TRIED ONE OF THE L-THEANINE CAPSULES A
LITTLE WHILE EARLIER, AND IT HAS HELPED ME TO FEEL BETTER
INSIDE NOW.
About the L-Theanine-I take it in the daytime only when I
have to be around people. It is strangely calming. I only take one
pill-start there and observe how you feel
I DO FEEL CALMER, AND MORE RELAXED NOW!
MY CARDIOVASCULAR PRESSURE IS NOT AS STONG LIKE IT HAS
BEEN FOR A LONG LONG TIME NOW; ALTHOUGH I'LL PROBABLY
STILL HAVE TO REMAIN A DRUG ADDICT TO CLONAZEPAM,
REGARDLESS OF TAKING THEANINE.
I will be emailing you something on drugs that are KNOWN to damage
the lungs (Next Email).
I TRIED IT, AND THE SEARCH MODE WOULDN'T WORK FOR ME; IT
MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY SYSTEM BEING HACKED
INTO; MAYBE NOT; MAYBE IT'S SOME OTHER PROBLEM.
Personal Journey is what I meant to say
OK.
-but you're right, in a sense you would use a journal. However, I do not
write my problems in my journey book.
OK; I DID JOURNAL QUITE EXTENSIVELY, WHILE ADDICTED TO THE
PRESCIPTION DRUG: ZYPREXA; (ZYSEXA); THE SARCASM NAME FOR
THAT GODFORSAKEN DRUG THAT I WAS HAVING TO TAKE).
ZYPREXA AMPLIFIES RACING THOUGHTS, AND SO; LIKEWISE;
JOURNALLING BECOMES INFINITE, WHILE ADDICTED TO THAT INSOMNIA
INDUCING, IMMUNE SYSTEM WEAKENING, PARANOIA AND MISERY
INDUCING DRUG; THAT WILL ALSO PUT A PERSON TO SLEEP AS WELL.
I write SOLUTIONS and wise-sayings. When I feel down-I go read the
wise-sayings! As many as I can. I understand about the abuse thing-I got
a face full of it from my Mother and Stepfather (he always did what she
said). I am so very, very sorry you are suffering from all of the abuse.
YEAH; PERMANENT PEACE HAS BECOME OF MOST IMPORTANCE
IN MY LIFE, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE NEVERENDING NONSENSES
OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE CALL LIFE, CAUSING INTERFERENCE IN MY
LIFE.
I truly care about you and will pray for you without ceasing each time I
think of you in the next few days.
OK; THANKS!
PRAY FOR MY NEIGHBORS TOO; EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM; EVEN
IF THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT; BECAUSE THEY HAVE INTRUDED INTO MY
LIFE, ILLEGALLY; BREAKING U.S. AMENDEMENT # 4.
THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DIRECTLY NORTH OF ME ARE MISERABLE
WRETCHES, AND THEY HAVE MADE ENEMIES OF NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT
OF THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD;
AND I WOULDN'T DOUBT IT TOO, IF THE FOLKS OVER IN ONE OF THE TWO
HOUSES, THAT BORDERS THEIR BACKYARD, COULD BE AFFILIATED WITH
THE C.I.A; (THE COMMUNIST INTELLIGENCE AGENCY), AFTER WHAT MR. VOLLAND SAID, IN HIS E-MAIL REPLY BACK TO ME THE OTHER EVENING.
I NOW KNOW THAT THIS HOUSE IS UNDER ILLEGAL INTRUSIVE AUDIO
SURVEILLANCE; THROUGH BROADBAND OVER BOTH, CABLE AND OVER
THE POWERLINES, THROUGH THE INSECURITY SHYTSTEM OF THIS
BROKEN HOME; AND THE TELEPHONE LINE IS ALSO TAPPED.
EVERY ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCER; (EVERY SPEAKER), IN THIS RESIDENCE
SERVES AS A MICROPHONE, WHICH IS REVERSE AMPLIFIED, WHEN POWERED, WHILE CONNECTED TO ALL WALL RECEPTACLES, WHILE CONNECTED TO BOTH THE GRID, AND WHILE CONNECTED TO CABLE, THROUGH THE POWERED CABLE MODEM.
I STATED IN THE PAST THAT THE TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA.
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH, TO KNOW IF THE TAPS, WHICH ARE IN THE BACKYARD CABLE AND TELEPHONE BOXES, IN THE NEIGHBOR'S
BACKYARD ARE INDEED CALEA OR NOT; BUT I DO KNOW FOR CERTAIN
THAT THE PHONE LINE AT THIS RESIDENCE IS NOW TAPPED, UNDER
THE AUTHORITY OF THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT.
Sounds like the black hole and nuke thing helped you some.
YEAH; IT DID HELP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT NOT ENTIRELY.
I WANT MY DAD PERMANENTLY OUT OF MY BRAIN; AND I ALSO
WANT HIM PERMANENTLY OUT OF MY D.N.A. TOO; MY DAD'S D.N.A.
IS TRASH.
I WANT TO UPGRADE MY D.N.A. , BEYOND THIS MANDAMNED AND GODDAMNED FLESH AND BLOOD PRISON OF AN EXISTANCE THAT
I EXIST IN NOW; THIS EXISTANCE AND REALITY THAT I WAS BORN
INTO.
I know it wasn't permanent. However, RUMINATION can be very, very
destructive.
I'VE NEVER GOT A DEFINITION OF THE WORD RUMINATION; BUT I
THINK IT'S LIKE DON HENLEY SINGS; YOU KEEP CARRYING THAT ANGER -
IT'LL EAT YOU UP INSIDE; IN HIS SONG: THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
I know you don't understand why you are going through this valley (Me
EITHER).
YEAH; I ASK OUT TO THE LORD A LOT OF TIMES: NOT ONLY, WHY ME? ;
BUT ALSO: WHY ANYONE AT ALL?
WHY CAN'T ABSOLUTE PERFECTION JUST BE FOREVER, IN ABSOLUTE PEACE, FOREVER, IN AN ETERNALLY UNCORRUPTABLE EXISTANCE AND
REALITY?
AND EVIL IS AN INSUFFICIENT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION..!
AND THE BIBLE IS INSUFFICIENT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION..!
But, if you will hang in there, you will grow from it (painful growth-but
valuable).
OK.
I know nothing seems fair or makes sense either.
WELL; THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FAIR, THINGS THAT ARE UNFAIR,
FOR EVERYONE;
I HAVE HAD SO MANY UNFAIR THINGS HAPPEN TO ME IN MY LIFE; YET I
HAVE ALSO HAD MANY FAIR THINGS IN MY LIFE TOO.
BUT EVERYONE'S EXPERIENCES AREN'T THE SAME; AND DUE TO ALL
OF THE THINGS, BOTH FAIR AND UNFAIR THAT I'VE BEEN THOUGH IN
MY LIFE; I CAN EQUALLY SEE BOTH THE DARK AND THE LIGHT SIDES
OF EXISTANCE AND REALITY, EQUALLY; THE GOOD AND THE EVIL,
EQUALLY.
I cry out to God all the time-I am angry too. WHY? Is my most heartfelt
question. There is never an answer to that one from God-Keep on trucking,
Clyde-your talking clock sounds very interesting,
YEAH; I'VE SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND EFFORT
INTO IT, AND IT HAS GIVEN ME TREMENDOUS HEARTACHE, STRESS
AND GRIEF, BUT I WANT IT DONE AND DONE RIGHT, AND I WANT IT TO
BE OF BENEFIT TO MANY MANY PEOPLE; NOT JUST OF BENEFIT TO
MYSELF ALONE.
be sure and put in some time on your other important ideas-take good
notes! Keep them-don't get angry and throw ANYTHING
away.
YEAH; I'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD NOTES THAT I HAD WANTED TO
ORGANIZE, AND TO PUT TO PAPER, AND TO POSSIBLY PUBLISH; BUT REALITY JUST DIDN'T PERMIT THAT TO HAPPEN FOR THE MOST PART,
AND SO, I GAVE UP ON MUCH OF IT.
You cannot PURGE frustrations-you have to deal.
I WISH I COULD CUSTOM BUILD A MASSIVE DRUM WORKSHOP ACOUSTIC
DRUM KIT, BUT FINANCES WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AT
THIS TIME IN MY LIFE.
PERCUSSION IS A HEALTHY RELEASE FOR MY VIOLENT FRUSTRATION.
Another thing I have done that has helped is to apply IODINE and see if it
disappears in a couple of hours-if it does-your body is deficient in IODINE.
INTERESTING EXPERIMENT!
I'D LIKE TO TRY IT MYSELF, WHEN I HAVE THE TIME.
You can add it cheaply by buying an over the counter cheap brand of
IODINE (like for painting wounds) and apply watching carefully to see if it is
absorbed a two inch by two inch place on your belly-rotate the application
site! I feel better also since doing this. I found it on a website of natural cures.
OK.
About the PC Cursor and other odd things-sounds like you've been victimized by MALWARE-SPYWARE and Perhaps BROWSER HIJACK Software. To get rid
of such-I went to the Spybot Search and Destroy website, and also the Lavasoft website and got their free programs (Spybot would appreciate a donation-we did
when we had some money to give). You can do a search on Malware and browser Hijackers to see what other fixes are free and out there. Go To:
http://www.techrepublic.com
OK; I'LL SEE WHAT THAT WEBSITE HAS; BUT WHEN IT COMES TO
ALL OF THE COMPLICATED COMPUTER B.S., I GET FRUSTRATED
VERY EASILY AT ALL OF THE COMPLICATED AND USELESS OVERKILL NONSENSE; AND SO IT MAY BE A REALLY DIFFICULT THING FOR ME TO
DO.
(I hope I got the address right) and see what they can shareware/freeware offer to teach to uninstall that rot. Loving Best-Lisa
OK; THANKS!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 5 18:27:18 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 5 18:27:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Prescription Drugs: Danger Warning.
In-Reply-To: <48gu4i$1sd1u1i@xtinmta01.xt.local>
Message-ID: <20051006012718.58932.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
TO ALL MAD SCIENTISTS, AND ANGRY FOLKS OUT THERE;
ALL OF THIS INFORMATION APPEARS TO BE GOOD; EXCEPT OF
COURSE; THERE IS A SALES PROGRAM BEHIND IT.
I AM SO PISSED AT THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY,
AND ITS DICTATORSHIP OF DISEASE OVER EVERYONE OF US
EQUALLY; I JUST WANT SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT ALL, FOR
THE PERFECT POSITIVE, ON A LARGE SCALE, FOR EVERYONE,
EQUALLY.
ALL OF THOSE GOOD DOCTORS OUT THERE WHO COULD BE
DOING SO MUCH GOOD FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US
EQUALLY, LIKE THEY USED TO DO IN THE PAST; BUT YET IN THIS
MODERN TIME PERIOD - THEY ARE HANDCUFFED AND SCUFFED,
BY THE GREEDY INSURANCE INDUSTRIES, AND BY THE
KOMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL
KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX, WHILE WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO
SUFFER ON A MASS SCALE, DUE TO ALL OF THE DAMNED
ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS; THE SO-CALLED SIDE EFFECTS
OF THE DRUGS; WHICH IN REALITY, ARE ACTUALLY DIRECT
EFFECTS, AND NOT SIDE EFFECTS.
CLYDE LOFTON
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 5 23:24:24 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 5 23:24:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Respiratory Danger-Drug Database
In-Reply-To: <43447B3D.5000206@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <20051006062425.41848.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
Tim < texastjs@swbell.net > wrote:
Hi Clyde- try to go there direct maybe that will work.
I input the web address for you.
Here it is!
Lisa
http://www.pneumotox.com
THANKS FOR THE WEBLINK.
I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF FRUSTRATION AT
FIRST WITH THE WEBSITE, BUT THEN I
FIGURED IT OUT A BIT.
VALPROIC ACID HAS CAUSED ME BAD,
LASTING, CARDIOVASCULAR TROUBLES.
IT DOESN'T MENTION ANYTHING ON THAT
SITE, REGARDING KLONOPIN / CLONAZEPAM;
THEY ARE BOTH BENZODIAZAPINE
DRUGS.
I NEED TO FIND VERY VERY TRITE AND
SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE
CHEMICAL COMPLEX OF KLONOPIN /
CLONAZEPAM, AND BENZODIAZAPINE
DRUGS, AND WHAT ALL THAT THEY
ENCOMPASS; THEIR EFFECTS ON THE
HUMAN BODY, THE HUMAN NEUROCHEMISTRY,
THE HUMAN VASCULAR AND CARIOLOGY TOO.
I'M TIRED, SO I NEED TO GO FOR NOW; IT'S
PRESENTLY 1:23 IN THE MORNING.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Oct 6 15:55:39 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 6 15:55:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Don't even think about it.
Message-ID: <215.ac8c6e5.3077056b@aol.com>
_Free State Project ? Liberty in Our Lifetime_
(http://www.freestateproject.org/)
CLYDE, I think you sent me this link a couple weeks back.
Are these people on shrooms?
As a person who was raised on both sides of the river, Maine and New
Hampshire, sea coast area, I can tell you life is much the same inland New
Hampshire as it is on the coast ( all 25 miles of it .)
True here on the coast we have some of Americas best inventors, authors,
artists, mix in old family ties, and I am talking from before the 16 hundreds,
lots of us still live on land grants from 12 generations ago.
What do you get, a cross of old ( England) and New York City. Anyone who
comes here to live has to be either very mellow or so laid back they can
adjust to anything.
We are small towns for the most part, one big city, perhaps 50,000 folks. If
you look on a map you will see hundreds of small towns all sort of clumped
together. Up north you will find huge areas of nothing.
When these people who want Freedom move here they will be in for a shock.
When they move to a small town or even a medium size town, soon as they arrive
the police are on alert.
We don't have dumb country cops here. Since the hamlets are small, the cops
will not only run the plate of unfamiliar cars but do a credit check besides a
criminal check on strangers.
Our cops are all ,small town or big, college educated, and above. We feel
safe here, we know who our neighbors are, not from contact with them but from
word of mouth.
We are Yankees, we trust no one and we associate with few. In 10 years of
living on my plot, I know only 3 neighbors and have yet to invite them into my
home.
You tell us you hate Tulsa, it is dirty and a wreck. Up here you can drive
for 900 miles before you see a Dixie cup in the road. This area looks like
someone comes in and dusts every morning.
The nearest town to me of size is Portsmouth, a growing town 25,000 people.
When I go to town I have to stop in the square , in the mild weather, and sit
at an outside table before a coffee shop in the square. What do I see????
I'm sitting there drinking my coffee and waves of tourists and home boys
walk by, locals saunter about. On the corner a group of Goth folks gather. There
is a church across the street and a group of kids playing heavy metal music
powered by electricity from the church outlets plays. There is a large parking
spot next to me that is reserved for motorcycles, My oldest son climbs off
his iron horse and buy me an ice tea . What else do I see, to tell the
truth, this town is the next San Francisco. 2 out of every people who walk down
the street have either a book or a newspaper in hand. This is a pet friendly
town, people take their dogs, cats, lizards, snakes, birds for walks.
People here surprise outsiders because of our sea faring traditions. We
have taken to the traditions of old. Men,woman and some kids who have false
IDs have gone boinkers over Tattoos, It is a wonderland of body art here.
Talk about Free Sprit, it is not just for the young, you find grandmothers with
jungle scenes on their backs
Love my home town, The people who want to move here for freedom , they
will never adjust.
We are free only because we live with in the law, respect the law. When the
law becomes something that does not benefit us, we revolt, but only then.
Clyde, if you ever decide to come here, bring LOTS of money. A room without
anything, bath or kitchen will cost you 800 a month. To live as a roommate
is cheaper, plan to spend 500.00 plus utilities.
Everything is going through the roof here. We have perhaps the largest gay
population on the east coast. Every where the gays go, they improve their
neighborhoods, thus raising property taxes and giving a new lively artistic and
soul to the community.
Live Free Or Die, that is our motto, I have my survival kit handy, I have my
contacts way up on Maine in case I have to run for the hills.
But Clyde, I DON'T THINK WITHIN MY LIFE I WILL TO RUN, EXCEPTING THIS
WIERD THING BUSH IS TALKING ABOUT.
Regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Thu Oct 6 20:20:51 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 6 20:22:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Don't even think about it.
Message-ID: <20051006.202056.20260.46898@webmail13.lax.untd.com>
Vests, Thanks for telling us all this about your home town; I enjoyed reading it. Jerry
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 20:29:18 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Thu Oct 6 20:29:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Don't even think about it.
In-Reply-To: <20051006.202056.20260.46898@webmail13.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051007032919.84506.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta,
My wife and I have family in Northwood. I can
remembeer when lake in the clouds hostel served
coffee, tea, and gorp.
I kinf of worry about the free-staters wandering into
New Hampshire and screwing things up.
Bob
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> Vests, Thanks for telling us all this about your
> home town; I enjoyed reading it. Jerry
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 20:59:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 6 20:59:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: SHORT REPLY FOR NOW.
In-Reply-To: <215.ac8c6e5.3077056b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051007035950.71211.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
Free State Project ??? Liberty in Our Lifetime
CLYDE, I think you sent me this link a couple weeks back.
NO; I DIDN'T SEND THAT WEBLINK; AT LEAST I DON'T
RECALL SENDING IT, IF I DID.
I'LL REPLY BACK MORE LATER.
I'VE GOT A MOVIE THAT I RENTED THE OTHER NIGHT,
ALONG WITH TWO OTHER MOVIES, AND THE MOVIE
THAT I NEED TO WATCH TONIGHT, IS DUE BACK TONIGHT,
SO NEED TO WATCH IT RIGHT AWAY.
I RENTED:
1. CRASH; (THE MOVIE THAT IS DUE BACK TONIGHT).
2. BRUCE ALMIGHTY; (DUE BACK NEXT THURSDAY).
AND;
3. SUPERSIZE ME; (DUE BACK NEXT THURSDAY).
GOTTA GO;
LATER, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 7 00:03:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 7 00:03:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Fwd: Those that 'breathe together - decide
together' and thus 'conspire' together
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20051007070348.57845.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
I JUST WATCHED THE MOVIE:CRASH;
IT IS A DAMN GOOD AND MOVING MOVIE.
IT MADE ME LAUGH; IT MADE ME ANGRY;
IT MADE ME STRESSED; AND IT MADE ME
CRY TOO.
EVERYONE OUTTA CHECK THAT MOVIE
OUT!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
THE BELOW INFORMATION; I'LL HAVE TO LOOK
INTO, GRADUALLY, TOMORROW; I'M WORN OUT
TONIGHT.
CLYDE
stationarydeck < jerryvolland@spaceoffice.us > wrote:
--- In intalek@yahoogroups.com , "Leslie R. Pastor" wrote:
For those who believe that 'paranoia' is a sickness, and
conspiracy 'theory' is an aberration, let me remind them, that, just
because, they are 'paranoid' doesn't mean that their 'reason'
for 'paranoia' isn't justified. Let them read the facts below and
come to their own 'reasoned' conclusions.
Dr. Anthony C. Sutton wrote about the ultimate in conspiracy 'theory'
with his published work: America's Secret Establishment Source. Upon
careful investigation and a thorough 'analysis' complete with
verifying 'hypothesis's, Dr. Sutton came to the remarkable conclusion
that his last work, ASE, was Source his magnum opus. This was after
many years of hard and dedicated 'research' [some verified by the
FBI - Alan Belmont - Hoover Institution]. I became a part of that
research when Dr. Sutton and I crossed 'paths' deeply 'immersed'
within the stacks of my Alma Mater's university library. Back in
1972, Dr. Sutton had already published his first and
second 'research' regarding the construction of the Soviet Union from
1917 through 1945. Everything I had studied regarding the Russian
Revolution, the revolutionaries and the supposed 'opposition' of the
US Government regarding the Russian communists, was overturned, for
we had been lied to, as the facts uncovered by Dr. Sutton clearly and
unequivocally revealed. So was there a deliberate 'conspiracy?'
Absolutely! If you order, the published works [past & present] of
Dr. Anthony C. Sutton, you will be able to identify the
appropriate 'qualifiers' and requisite 'data' to analyze for yourself
the veracity of his findings. Back in 1973 while still reading his
initial 'discoveries' regarding Western Technological and Industrial
transfers from the United States to the Soviet Union
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/sutton.html Dr. Sutton was already
finishing his third and last volume on Western Technology and Soviet
Economic Development 1945-1965. Appalled and confused regarding the
obvious 'hidden' agenda of certain 'industrial and political' groups
working behind the scenes within the 'fabric' of our own government,
Dr. Sutton decided to delve deeper, as did I. Independently we
discovered, parallel objectives, cohesively applied, by several
interlocking 'corporations' and 'secret' societies working together
to establish a diabolical framework that would forever plunge this
planet into a perpetual 'war zone' and thereby control the entire
planet, lock, stock and barrel, for hidden and secret objectives of
their own, completely independent of the fabric of supranational
governments.
All the Best,
Leslie R. Pastor
PS: These same groups and their families are doing the exact same
thing in Red [Communist] China right now as this is being written -
today. They intend to succeed, are determined to succeed in bringing
about a 'New World Order' complete with mass slavery, death and
destruction for all those that oppose their objectives.
http://www.ctrl.org/essay1/index.html
PSS: With the assistance of the clandestinely received 'membership'
list of the Russell Trust, Dr. Sutton was able to piece together
the 'hidden' history, a history based on the principle of the
Hegelian Dialectic Process, where the 'individual' is suppressed, and
the State is exalted.
Research: Wall Street & Bolshevik Revolution, Rise of Hitler, and
FDR, plus, The Best Enemy Money Can Buy.
[Online Books: Read online by clicking on the subject [underlined]
source.]
http://www.reformation.org/antony-sutton-bio.html
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/index.html
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr.html
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/index.html
Objectives:
http://www.ctrl.org/MilleganStews/Election.html
http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/qclub.html
http://www.ctrl.org/graphicHome/CTRLhome.html
http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/DRI/america829/
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308/__show_article/_a000308-000110.htm
http://www.topsitelists.com/bestsites/conspire/topsites.html
My Personal Research:
http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/anthonycsutton13may02.shtml
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@l.../msg98936.html
http://users.pandora.be/wouter.termote/Links_from_others.htm
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituaries/2004/EugeneMallove/LeslieRPastor.htm
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308/__show_article/_a000308-000134.htm
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1543
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nuenergy/message/14720?viscount=100
http://pesn.com/2005/04/03/6900077_Leslie_Pastor_on_ColdFusion/
http://pesn.com/2005/07/24/9600128_ZPE_Drop_in_Ocean/
http://pesn.com/2005/07/14/9600124_Sonofusion_Overview/
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/fusion/liensff.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/endsecrecy/message/6098
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=70088
http://saba.fateback.com/articoli/coldfusionapril2005.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/endsecrecy/message/5230
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/endsecrecy/message/5221
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/endsecrecy/message/4698
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingSaucerMachine/message/463
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=891
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=44241
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/112403.htm
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Oct 7 05:29:11 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Oct 7 05:29:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Round Two in the UN's fight to own the Internet
Message-ID: <016e01c5cb3a$b9a5ce00$d0c5bc41@mikey>
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,16376,1585288,00.html
It seems that after the US rejected, in no uncertain terms, the UN's bid to
take over the root DNS servers and TCP/IP standardization from ICANN, the EU
is now plotting a coup! Allied with several other countries, many with
dismal attitudes regarding free speech and histories of jack-booted
censorship, the EU is planning a multinational meeting to draft a plan for
submission to the UN.
The belief is that faced with a coalition of nations in the UN, the US would
have no choice but to acquiesce.
However, think of this- in the USA, the Internet "is deserving of the
fullest measure of protection under the First Amendment." (Landmark US
Supreme Court decision, ACLU v Reno, I believe in 1997) Now if a
totalitarian state such as China has any say-so over the root DNS servers,
then it is quite easy to believe that they would simply delete all DNS
entries, worldwide, that conflict with their ideology. And with police
states controlling the protocol, would it not be quite easy to dictate that
all Internet communications have "back doors" for Government surveillance?
Despite the hand-wringing of the neolibs, the USA has the widest range of
basic individual rights and freedoms of any nation. Further, our
Constitution forbids the USA from being subservient to ANY other nation's
laws. The Constitution of the United States of America is the root document
for our nation, it cannot, MUST NOT, be further compromised!
We must not allow the crooked politicians of the UN to subvert Free Speech
in the US by taking over ICANN!
My alternative: Every police-state banana republic that wants to run their
own root DNS server can do so. Allow the WTU to assign top-level domains,
and NOTHING MORE! All free-speech loving nations can remain with ICANN,
operating the Internet under US rules of free speech.
When a user in one of the police-state banana republics wishes to access a
US website, then that country's DNS would have to hand them off to the ICANN
DNS to get the appropriate IP address. As most of these jackboots want
control over the root servers simply to maintain their regime, they would
never do this! So the effect would be that no country censoring the
Internet would ever have internet access to ANYTHING in the USA! Fine! We
have the most servers, the most clients, the most businesses, and the best
infrastructure! Any idiot can opt-out of the US Internet, if they don't
like free speech! But you lose all that we can provide. And so WHAT if we
lose YOU? Assholes like that I do not care visit on the Internet! You
suffer far more than we do!
I see this as a blatant power-grab by those who did NOTHING to build the
Internet. These fools wish to steal what Americans have spent money, blood,
sweat, and tears to create, and offer us NOTHING in return! In fact, they
offer us less than nothing- they offer us censorship, eavesdropping, and
subjugation of our society under laws that are anathema to any red-blooded
American!
After the Iraq oil-for-food scandal, after the gross failure of the UN in
Somalia and elsewhere, after the Law of the Sea Treaty power-grab, and after
the UN's demonstrated impotence in dealing with nuclear proliferation in
Iran and North Korea, it is time for the US to withdraw from the UN. IMHO,
the UN is nothing more than a bunch of crooked, selfish politicians,
attempting to institute a New World Order for their own selfish desires.
This issue is the last straw- stealing what hard-working Americans built
over forty years, just to make money and undermine our Constitution! I say
we tell the UN where to go, and what to do with their posterior orifice when
they get there! Sit on THIS, Kofi!
And the UN building can be renovated to provide public housing for our own
welfare recipients! What irony! The building used by the organization that
created the international welfare state, destroying the work ethic and
creating welfare dependence on a worldwide scale, can now be trashed and
covered in gang graffiti by good, red-blooded American welfare recipients!
Kofi's office can become a crack house! Put the ho's into the Security
Council chamber! The parking lot can be filled with dubbed-out Bimmers,
Lexes, and Benz, all pimped out with twenty-kilowatt amps and subwoofers,
blasting gangsta rap! Let the entire world witness the ultimate result of
flawed Liberal thinking.
-MB
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 7 06:21:28 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 7 06:21:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Round Two in the UN's fight to own the Internet
In-Reply-To: <016e01c5cb3a$b9a5ce00$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051007132128.83232.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
THANKS FOR SENDING THIS MIKE.
CLYDE
Michael Best wrote:
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,16376,1585288,00.html
It seems that after the US rejected, in no uncertain terms, the UN's bid to
take over the root DNS servers and TCP/IP standardization from ICANN, the EU
is now plotting a coup! Allied with several other countries, many with
dismal attitudes regarding free speech and histories of jack-booted
censorship, the EU is planning a multinational meeting to draft a plan for
submission to the UN.
The belief is that faced with a coalition of nations in the UN, the US would
have no choice but to acquiesce.
However, think of this- in the USA, the Internet "is deserving of the
fullest measure of protection under the First Amendment." (Landmark US
Supreme Court decision, ACLU v Reno, I believe in 1997) Now if a
totalitarian state such as China has any say-so over the root DNS servers,
then it is quite easy to believe that they would simply delete all DNS
entries, worldwide, that conflict with their ideology. And with police
states controlling the protocol, would it not be quite easy to dictate that
all Internet communications have "back doors" for Government surveillance?
Despite the hand-wringing of the neolibs, the USA has the widest range of
basic individual rights and freedoms of any nation. Further, our
Constitution forbids the USA from being subservient to ANY other nation's
laws. The Constitution of the United States of America is the root document
for our nation, it cannot, MUST NOT, be further compromised!
We must not allow the crooked politicians of the UN to subvert Free Speech
in the US by taking over ICANN!
My alternative: Every police-state banana republic that wants to run their
own root DNS server can do so. Allow the WTU to assign top-level domains,
and NOTHING MORE! All free-speech loving nations can remain with ICANN,
operating the Internet under US rules of free speech.
When a user in one of the police-state banana republics wishes to access a
US website, then that country's DNS would have to hand them off to the ICANN
DNS to get the appropriate IP address. As most of these jackboots want
control over the root servers simply to maintain their regime, they would
never do this! So the effect would be that no country censoring the
Internet would ever have internet access to ANYTHING in the USA! Fine! We
have the most servers, the most clients, the most businesses, and the best
infrastructure! Any idiot can opt-out of the US Internet, if they don't
like free speech! But you lose all that we can provide. And so WHAT if we
lose YOU? Assholes like that I do not care visit on the Internet! You
suffer far more than we do!
I see this as a blatant power-grab by those who did NOTHING to build the
Internet. These fools wish to steal what Americans have spent money, blood,
sweat, and tears to create, and offer us NOTHING in return! In fact, they
offer us less than nothing- they offer us censorship, eavesdropping, and
subjugation of our society under laws that are anathema to any red-blooded
American!
After the Iraq oil-for-food scandal, after the gross failure of the UN in
Somalia and elsewhere, after the Law of the Sea Treaty power-grab, and after
the UN's demonstrated impotence in dealing with nuclear proliferation in
Iran and North Korea, it is time for the US to withdraw from the UN. IMHO,
the UN is nothing more than a bunch of crooked, selfish politicians,
attempting to institute a New World Order for their own selfish desires.
This issue is the last straw- stealing what hard-working Americans built
over forty years, just to make money and undermine our Constitution! I say
we tell the UN where to go, and what to do with their posterior orifice when
they get there! Sit on THIS, Kofi!
And the UN building can be renovated to provide public housing for our own
welfare recipients! What irony! The building used by the organization that
created the international welfare state, destroying the work ethic and
creating welfare dependence on a worldwide scale, can now be trashed and
covered in gang graffiti by good, red-blooded American welfare recipients!
Kofi's office can become a crack house! Put the ho's into the Security
Council chamber! The parking lot can be filled with dubbed-out Bimmers,
Lexes, and Benz, all pimped out with twenty-kilowatt amps and subwoofers,
blasting gangsta rap! Let the entire world witness the ultimate result of
flawed Liberal thinking.
-MB
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From: vesta111 at aol.com (vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Fri Oct 7 07:57:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Seacoastonline Article from vesta
Message-ID: <200510071456.j97Eunt45782@oni_ws4.ottaway.com>
Hi clyde,
vesta stopped by Seacoast Online
and suggested that you read the following story:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/10072005/news/66723.htm
Here is their message....
Say Clyde, how would you like to have a million dollars in the bank yet have to live next to these people????
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 7 20:19:33 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 7 20:19:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUPPRESS'T IN THE WEST....
Message-ID: <20051008031934.41752.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
SUPPRESS'T IN THE WEST;
IS THE WILD WEST STILL FREE?
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 7 20:24:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MOVIE: CRASH.
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20051008032430.14036.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
I WATCHED THE MOVIE:CRASH,
YESTERDAY NIGHT.
IT IS A DAMN GOOD MOVIE THAT EVERYONE
OUTTA WATCH.
IT MADE ME LAUGH; IT MADE ME ANGRY;
IT MADE ME STRESSED; AND IT MADE ME
CRY TOO.
EVERYONE OUTTA CHECK THAT MOVIE
OUT!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sat Oct 8 01:25:36 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Sat Oct 8 01:26:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUPPRESS'T IN THE WEST....
Message-ID: <20051008.012541.13114.59212@webmail25.lax.untd.com>
Suppress't in the West: is the West still free?
I can basically do whatever I want, as long as it isn't immoral, harmful, or criminal. As much information as I've put out on the Internet, I've only had one single technology message that dissapeared each time I sent it. (Subject unavailable) -JV
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 10:11:38 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 8 10:12:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
Message-ID: <20051008171138.60090.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0929408179/103-0446557-9008610?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
2. http://www.rense.com/general62/AM2.HTM
3. http://www.iwasaslave.com/slavery-in-america.htm
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 10:30:45 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 8 10:31:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE GOVERNMENT.
Message-ID: <20051008173045.88153.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
THE GOVERNMENT:
THE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO GOVERN EACH AND
EVERY ONE OF US WITH FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY HAS BETRAYED
US AND DIVIDED US, WITH THE PROMOTION OF IMMORALITY AND
SUPPRESSION OF PROMISING ESOTERIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES.
AND YEAH; I'VE GOT A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON REALITY!
SO WHAT CAN WE ALL DO ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE THE
PEOPLE ARE ALL, EQUALLY, UP AGAINST?
DO WE HAVE A PEACEFUL COUP AGAINST THE OUT OF CONTROL
GOVERNMENT?
OR DO WE HAVE A VIOLENT REVOLUTION AGAINST THE OUT OF
CONTROL GOVERNMENT?
THE CHOICE IS OURS, ISN'T IT?
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 8 10:50:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE; LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051008175026.66789.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE;
LYRICS:
http://www.lyricstime.com/lyrics/25003.html
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 11:35:29 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 8 11:35:41 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
In-Reply-To: <20051008171138.60090.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051008183529.19963.qmail@web51906.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
I had the great misfortune to read that pathetic
screed that is titled "Civil War II."
While I can't immediately give references (after doing
a critical review, I threw the book in the trash,
where it belongs...) I _CAN_ say a few things:
1.) I found at least 1 instance of logical fallacies
PER PAGE
2.) I found at least 1 instance of out of context fact
PER PAGE
3.) I found at least 1 instance of the straw man
fallacy PER PAGE
4.) I found at least 1 instance of "it's the
liberal's/multi-culti's, trilateral's etc. fault" PER
PAGE
5.) the sheer lack of understanding of history beggers
my imagination. The only way I can figure that herr
chittum could screw up that many facts, is willfully
systematic, step-by-step dysfunctional
reality-checking, to shore up some highly questionable
world view.
Putting it simply, I'm not surprised that the "author"
(if I can be so charitable as to use that term in this
case) hunted in bosnia. Rednecks seem to be in a
quandry: the soviet union broke up, life didn't stop
at Y2K, and the rapture hasn't shown any sign of
showing up...
the sad fact is that the classic racist redneck is
being edged out. They weren't ever wanted, they have
no use in a literate society, and now...
they aren't that scary any more.
The racists (and chittum is a racist, make no mistake)
seem to be howling b/c they don't have special
priveleges anymore.
Bob (looking forward to helping establish the One
World Order, to herd the turner diaries afficiandoes
into the camps.)
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> 1.
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0929408179/103-0446557-9008610?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
>
> 2. http://www.rense.com/general62/AM2.HTM
>
> 3. http://www.iwasaslave.com/slavery-in-america.htm
>
>
>
>
>
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 11:39:33 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 8 11:39:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE; LYRICS.
In-Reply-To: <20051008175026.66789.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051008183933.68449.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
great song... thanks for the lyrics.
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE;
> LYRICS:
>
> http://www.lyricstime.com/lyrics/25003.html
>
>
>
>
>
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 8 12:35:27 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 8 12:35:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Combined electrogravitational diamagnetism
Message-ID: <003c01c5cc3f$6fa41f40$d0c5bc41@mikey>
http://greatdome.net/nikkinet/vat/
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 12:45:09 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 8 12:45:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Combined electrogravitational diamagnetism
In-Reply-To: <003c01c5cc3f$6fa41f40$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051008194509.8017.qmail@web51913.mail.yahoo.com>
MB,
I'm adding that proposed reactor to my christmas wish
list.
Bob
--- Michael Best wrote:
> http://greatdome.net/nikkinet/vat/
>
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 8 13:22:34 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 8 13:22:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Slavery in the USA, and the New World Order
Message-ID: <004201c5cc46$04b86ea0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Well, the Civil War was not about slavery, despite what the neolibs would
have us think. It was simply over the RIGHT of a people to secede from the
Union, when that Union ceased to meet their needs.
The result was to demonstrate, in the bloodiest war we ever fought, that the
Government is supreme over the People. The US Civil War was the beginning
of totalitarianism in the USA, and the first step in destroying the
Constitution.
Slavery exists to this day- not leg irons and whips, but economic slavery-
with the illegal immigrant underclass, Clyde, and myself all belonging to
that Government-approved slave class. It is quite easy to be a liberal
altruist, sitting in a costal community in New Hampshire, with all the bills
current and knowing from where your next meal comes. It is quite a
different matter when one is struggling to keep the ISP *only* sixty days
behind, just to remain on-line, and one has developed a hundred new ways of
preparing pinto beans. Ninety percent of all African-Americans in the USA
have more income than myself; yet I cannot find a job in my field, and my
skin color is too white to collect even food stamps. So I clean toilets for
subminimum wage, cash money off the books. THIS is economic slavery.
Slavery is necessary for the American economy, and always has been. When
one group of slaves is elevated from slavery, another must replace them in
order to perform the menial tasks that they now refuse to do. The
Presidente of Mexico was quite correct when he publicly stated that illegal
Mexican immigrants "will do jobs that African-Americans refuse."
Slavery exists in America today, and always will.
As for the new world order, I have no desire to see the ENTIRE US population
turned into slaves for the profits of the Third World's despots. And when
this occurs, even the African-Americans will rise up in arms against the New
World Order. For all the good it will do then.
And as for rednecks- The UN can take my rifle when they pry my cold, dead
finger from its trigger.
-MB
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 13:50:19 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 8 13:50:25 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Slavery in the USA, and the New World Order
In-Reply-To: <004201c5cc46$04b86ea0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051008205019.20671.qmail@web51902.mail.yahoo.com>
Oy Vey...
the fact that I am responding to this probably proves
my case for my being OCD...
1.) There is no RIGHT to secede. It is not on the
operating manual we all - supposedly - learned to work
by, that wonderful document called the constitution.
The Declaration of Independence is not what the
country runs on.
2.) if you have enough money after rent, food,
heating, and busfare... to keep an ISP running... you
ain't struggling.
struggling is when you don't know where the next meal
is coming from. struggling is when you buy lentils in
bulk, because they are cheaper than pinto beans, and
there's a twofer sale for 59 cents a jumbo box of
pasta, if you buy both.
3.) while I have family in new hampshire and maine, I
live in connecticut.
4.) according to
http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/rules/Memo/Support/2001-characteristics.htm
41% of all the food stamp recipients are white
35% are black
so let's try that math piece again...
5.) As to the matter of the 3rd world taking over...
5a.) If they took us over, wouldn't that stop the
freebies the US was handing out?
5b.) I think that the fact that the US has the best
economy, and collection of armed services just might
have something to do with keeping those horrific
despots at bay...
5c.) a bunch of yahoos running around in the woods,
acting out red dawn fantasies will not stop a commited
expeditionary force. Do you really think that having a
firearm is going to keep an invasion force from
completing a mission? which SEAL team did you train
with? have you been _regularly_ training to keep your
tactics, strategy, and logistical skills current?
do you have multiple fire plans? how about travel
routes? times and codes to link up with others? or -
dare I say it - the support of the local populace to
help your mission? If you lack any of these, you will
fail.
6.) if I had to "take your gun" from you... I'd use
cold tear gas, or aerosolized thornweed/fentanyl
combo, and then walk in. If I had no regard for your
life, I'd use VX and call it a day...
Bob (currently working on getting black helicopter
qualified)
--- Michael Best wrote:
> Well, the Civil War was not about slavery, despite
> what the neolibs would
> have us think. It was simply over the RIGHT of a
> people to secede from the
> Union, when that Union ceased to meet their needs.
>
> The result was to demonstrate, in the bloodiest war
> we ever fought, that the Government is supreme over
the People. The US Civil War was the beginning
> of totalitarianism in the USA, and the first step in
> destroying the Constitution.
>
> Slavery exists to this day- not leg irons and whips,
> but economic slavery- with the illegal immigrant
underclass, Clyde, and myself all belonging to that
Government-approved slave class. It is quite
> easy to be a liberal altruist, sitting in a costal
community in New Hampshire, with all the bills
> current and knowing from where your next meal comes.
> It is quite a different matter when one is
struggling to keep the ISP *only* sixty days behind,
just to remain on-line, and one has developed a
hundred new ways of preparing pinto beans. Ninety
percent of all African-Americans in the USA have more
income than myself; yet I cannot find a job in my
field, and my
> skin color is too white to collect even food stamps.
> So I clean toilets for subminimum wage, cash money
off the books. THIS is economic slavery.
>
> Slavery is necessary for the American economy, and
> always has been. When one group of slaves is
elevated from slavery, another must replace them in
> order to perform the menial tasks that they now
> refuse to do. The Presidente of Mexico was quite
correct when he publicly stated that illegal
> Mexican immigrants "will do jobs that
> African-Americans refuse."
>
> Slavery exists in America today, and always will.
>
> As for the new world order, I have no desire to see
> the ENTIRE US population
> turned into slaves for the profits of the Third
> World's despots. And when
> this occurs, even the African-Americans will rise up
> in arms against the New
> World Order. For all the good it will do then.
>
> And as for rednecks- The UN can take my rifle when
> they pry my cold, dead
> finger from its trigger.
>
> -MB
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 17:38:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 8 17:38:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Combined electrogravitational diamagnetism
In-Reply-To: <003c01c5cc3f$6fa41f40$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051009003801.41573.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE,
THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WEBSITE.
A VERY VERY COOL WEBSITE!
SINCERELY; AND 73, CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 8 18:23:29 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 8 18:23:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
In-Reply-To: <20051008183529.19963.qmail@web51906.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Oct 08, 2005 11:35:29 AM
Message-ID: <20051009012329.85374.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I had the great misfortune to read that pathetic
> screed that is titled "Civil War II."
>
> While I can't immediately give references (after doing
> a critical review, I threw the book in the trash,
> where it belongs...) I _CAN_ say a few things:
I am glad someone else is carrying on!
Still on limited internet access till they hook my new location up.
(Am at a client's site.)
As for your redneck theory... they are working in Santa Cruz for
some surfy ISP, and they don't have a clue as to what business,
techinical support, etc. are! Arrghhh!!!
More when I get caught up.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 8 19:53:54 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 8 19:54:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
In-Reply-To: <20051009012329.85374.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051009025355.18375.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com>
Javilk,
One of the things I set up in my own head (being a
learning disabled mad scientist, I had to set up some
overt thinking habits...) was a sort of social
grouping of "southerners." I had gotten tired of folks
bad mouthing my relatives in Alabama, Georgia, and
Florida with the same brush as the yutzes that burn
crosses.
therefore, I created this rubric:
Rednecks
Good Old Boy
Son of the South
Southron Gentleman
Rednecks burn crosses and hunt "different folks." Good
Old Boys keep to themselves, but will offer a
beer/some food, to be neighborly.
a Son of the South offers to put up out of towners, be
they conservative, liberal, or other.
the Southron Gentleman vigorously defends opposing
view
even to the point of born again churches backing up
planned parenthood clinics.
Bob (who's pining for some real georgia BBQ...)
--- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > I had the great misfortune to read that pathetic
> > screed that is titled "Civil War II."
> >
> > While I can't immediately give references (after
> doing
> > a critical review, I threw the book in the trash,
> > where it belongs...) I _CAN_ say a few things:
>
> I am glad someone else is carrying on!
>
> Still on limited internet access till they hook
> my new location up.
> (Am at a client's site.)
>
> As for your redneck theory... they are working
> in Santa Cruz for
> some surfy ISP, and they don't have a clue as to
> what business,
> techinical support, etc. are! Arrghhh!!!
>
> More when I get caught up.
>
> -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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> to do.
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> medical advice.
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> information.
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> opinions.
>
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> practices
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> mine.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Oct 9 07:33:22 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 07:33:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Slavery in the USA, and the New World Order
Message-ID: <88.30e418c6.307a8432@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/8/2005 4:22:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mbest@triad.rr.com writes:
Slavery exists to this day- not leg irons and whips, but economic slavery-
with the illegal immigrant underclass, Clyde, and myself all belonging to
that Government-approved slave class. It is quite easy to be a liberal
altruist, sitting in a costal community in New Hampshire, with all the bills
current and knowing from where your next meal comes. It is quite a
different matter when one is struggling to keep the ISP *only* sixty days
behind, just to remain on-line, and one has developed a hundred new ways of
preparing pinto beans. Ninety percent of all African-Americans in the USA
have more income than myself; yet I cannot find a job in my field, and my
skin color is too white to collect even food stamps. So I clean toilets for
subminimum wage, cash money off the books. THIS is economic slavery.
LIBERAL- Bills paid- Give me a break !!!!! For your information
smarty-pants, I just happen to work 10 hours a day in a fish processing plant. I stand
on cement floors in one place hefting 5lb. bags of frozen fish into cartons
for shipping at the rate of one every 4 seconds. 5 lbs is not a lot unless
you try lifting a 5 lb. weight from waist to shoulder every 4 seconds for 10
@#$%*** hours. Been doing this for 18 years sweetie, Only way to pay the bills
and afford to live in my own @#%** home town.
Not one days goes by when I don't worry about Canada closing the
plant. We are destroying our food source in all oceans, our cattle are at risk
from Mad Cow, our poultry and eggs are in danger, all these wonderful new foods
in the supermarket brought in from overseas and S. America have bugs and what
not just waiting to find a new home, breed and wipe out our natural buggies.
As long as I work I and my family eat. One small car accident can wipe
out my home, job, life as I have known it since I came home to live.
Liberal, I am about as liberal as that rat that seems to be biting your bum.
Something needs to be done about the drug problem here. I would like to see
soft drugs legal and taxed like tobacco. Our lawmakers keep drugs illegal to
line their own pockets with blood money.
Bring home our National Guard, what the hell are they doing overseas? They
should be HERE deployed at the Mexican Border defending it, not thousands of
miles from us.
Send all illegals to France, charge them with a capital crime, the French
Law says they have to accept and not deport anyone accused of a death
penalty offence.
Start slow in small towns, round them up. If they have kids who were born
here, send them with their parents. Change the law so a child born of an alien
has it's parents citizenship.
After you clear out the small towns begin on larger ones. Don't go in
willey-nilly, target whole familys and friends. 20 of these at a time. any more
people and it would be to difficult to control.
Anyone found to be helping aliens, banks, credit card companys are fined big
time. If you sell your home to an undesirable, rent an apartment to or sell
a car to an illegal, Big fines. Any one who hires an alien, even to mow their
lawn will pay up the snoot. If you marry an alien, you and kids go too. Let
their kids grow up angry at their parents for their lives, not society in
general.
Once these illegal people get wind of this, they will naturally turn to
robbery to feed themselves. Don't put them in our jails, kick them out let them
be jailed in their own country. If this means they will go home to be tortured
and beheaded, that's their problem, they got themselves into what ever, why
should we help out the dirt bags by giving them a nice cozy cell for the rest
of their lives?
Last but not least a couple of things, no more welfare for anyone under the
age of 65. If you have a couple of kids and cant feed them, that is child
abuse. You are in a homeless shelter with children, that is child abuse. On
the other hand--Give parents back the right to correct their childrens
behavior. Schools have the right to paddle kids, hospitals for the mentaly disturbed
have the right to corporal punishment of patients, cops can tazzer 5 year old
children. So how come we who have to live with children 24 hours a day are
prevented from doing our job of preventing our off spring from becoming
monsters as adults?
Regards from your friend the liberal living high on the hog in New
Hampshire Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Oct 9 08:09:28 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 08:09:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
Message-ID: <1a2.3dd9b9da.307a8ca8@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/8/2005 10:54:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rhjuliano@yahoo.com writes:
Bob (who's pining for some real georgia BBQ...)
A Yankee pinning for the south and lost youth remembers,
Boiled peanuts, pig picken, fried okra, Poke salad, N.C. BBQ sandwich with
slaw. Mountain music, Coon dogs howling, Pure Grain Alcohol and Cool Aide.
Church bean suppers, local beer joints, smell of fresh cut hay, manure on the
fields, kids selling water melon beside 2 lane highways.
Crabbing in Virginia with a string and a turkey or chicken neck. Smell of
horse and leather tack.
N.C corn fields with the smell of sticky pot grown inside field out of
sight.
Tenn.just about everything, the people, food ,farms, mountains,the music
!!!!!
Boar hunting with the smells and sounds of the baying hounds, the capture
and later the meal.
The sound of black gospel coming from small churches on back roads. Still
sends a shiver up my spine. The only music that can make me cry.
Sob, why did you'll have to bring this up, now I am home sick, God Bless
America.
Regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 9 10:07:22 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 9 10:07:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Don't even think about it.
In-Reply-To: <215.ac8c6e5.3077056b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051009170722.92987.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote: Free State Project ??? Liberty in Our Lifetime
CLYDE, I think you sent me this link a couple weeks back.
I DON'T RECALL SENDING THE ABOVE WEBLINK.
Are these people on shrooms?
I DON'T KNOW?
As a person who was raised on both sides of the river, Maine and New Hampshire, sea coast area, I can tell you life is much the same inland New Hampshire as it is on the coast ( all 25 miles of it .)
I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE ON THE COAST.
I'D RATHER LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS, IN HIGH COUNTRY,
BUT THERE ARE PROBLEMS OF TOO MUCH SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS, IN
WINTERTIME.
True here on the coast we have some of Americas best inventors, authors, artists, mix in old family ties, and I am talking from before the 16 hundreds, lots of us still live on land grants from 12 generations ago.
I'D LIKE TO LIVE THAT WAY.
INVENTORS, AUTHORS, AND ARTISTS IN THIS STUPID EVERLASTING INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF TULSA DON'T PROGRESS VERY FAR VERY FAST.
THIS WASTELAND IS OVERZONED, AND OVERTAXED, WITHOUT REPRESENTATION; THUS SUPPRESSING PROGRESSIONISM.
What do you get, a cross of old ( England) and New York City.
IS THAT A GOOD THING, OR A BAD THING; THE CROSS BETWEEN OLD
ENGLAND AND NEW YORK????
Anyone who comes here to live has to be either very mellow or so laid back they can adjust to anything.
SOUNDS LIKE HOW I'D LIKE TO LIVE; BUT THERE ARE MONEY PROBLEMS;
I WASN'T EDUCATED TO MAKE LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO LIVE FULLY HEALTHFULLY, TO LIVE SUCCESSFULLY, AND TO LIVE AT PERFECT PEACE;
BOTH VERY MELLOW AND LAID BACK!
You tell us you hate Tulsa, it is dirty and a wreck. Up here you can drive for 900 miles before you see a Dixie cup in the road. This area looks like someone comes in and dusts every morning.
TRAPPED IN TULSA; LIKE MIKE SAID; HE AS WELL AS I ARE BOTH ECONOMIC
SLAVES.
IN MY CASE; I AM UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, ENERGY SLAVERY, AND
PHARMACOLOGY SLAVERY.
THERE ARE OTHER SLAVERIES, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN FORMS.
Clyde, if you ever decide to come here, bring LOTS of money.
TOO BAD I DON'T HAVE MOUNTAINLOADS OF MONEY IN THIS INDUSTRIAL
SLUM, FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND OF TULSA.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 9 10:29:11 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 9 10:29:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A DEDICATION TO MY PARENTS,
AS WELL AS MY NEIGHBORS.....
Message-ID: <20051009172911.14442.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
THIS SONG BY MUDVAYNE IS DEDICATED TO MY
PARENTS, AND TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE
ALL VIOLATED MY 4TH AMENDMENT RIGHT AS A
UNITED (DIVIDED) STATES CITIZEN, FOR EXPRESSING
MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, TO RADIO:
HAPPY; BY: MUDVAYNE:
http://www.songs-and-lyrics.com/m/mudvayne/lost_and_found/Happy.html
THE HANDBASKET OF AMERICA, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
AND FROM MANY OTHER FOLKS PERSPECTIVES, IS NOW
IN HELL.
FUCK NEOLIBS AND FUCK NEOCONS ALIKE!
I WANT AMERICA BACK!
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Oct 9 18:30:32 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Oct 9 18:30:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Prizes!
Message-ID: <008001c5cd3a$352658f0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Now that we have seen an impotent fool win the Nobel Peace Prize for
allowing Iran and North Korea to develop atom bombs, it is time for the REAL
awards!
The IgNobel Prizes!
http://www.improbable.com/ig/2005/2005-details.html
From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 19:14:38 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 19:14:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CIVIL WAR.
In-Reply-To: <20051009025355.18375.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Oct 08, 2005 07:53:54 PM
Message-ID: <20051010021438.19253.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Rednecks
> Good Old Boy
> Son of the South
> Southron Gentleman
>
> Rednecks burn crosses and hunt "different folks."
Run across them...
Good
> Old Boys keep to themselves, but will offer a
> beer/some food, to be neighborly.
They, I think, ignore laws they cant be seen violating.
> a Son of the South offers to put up out of towners, be
> they conservative, liberal, or other.
Southern Hospitality. Legendary
> the Southron Gentleman vigorously defends opposing
> view
> even to the point of born again churches backing up
> planned parenthood clinics.
You mean the right to hold opposing views, I think.
> > I am glad someone else is carrying on!
> >
> > Still on limited internet access till they hook
> > my new location up.
> > (Am at a client's site.)
Have internet. Am sitting in a dust bowl of freshly plowed rock
flour... and wondering how to fuse this (presumably using water rather
than nuclear heat) into something that isn't going to become airborne
and cause silicosis.
> > As for your redneck theory... they are working
> > in Santa Cruz for
> > some surfy ISP, and they don't have a clue as to
> > what business,
> > techinical support, etc. are! Arrghhh!!!
Their DHCP servers are mis-configured to the point where I and
apparently a lot of others can't get VOIP boxes to work properly. (Tech
non-support screamed at me when I said the magic words "packet
prioritization", then hung up on me.) Yet sales and support they scream
at me as if it is my fault their network is screwy.
Previous firm came through, sending out a service guy on Sunday to
hook me up at my new location; but am having some problems with
bandwidth. We couldn't get the 5ghz equipment to work, need more
altitude. 2.4ghz works, but suffers some packet loss, presumably due to
traffic.
I think we need some other technologies... like point-to-point
gravity wave modulation. Ah well, maybe in the next millennium.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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Chem / Fungus allergies
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 20:04:20 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 20:04:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE GOVERNMENT.
In-Reply-To: <20051008173045.88153.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 08, 2005 10:30:45 AM
Message-ID: <20051010030420.50896.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO GOVERN EACH AND
> EVERY ONE OF US WITH FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY HAS BETRAYED
> US AND DIVIDED US, WITH THE PROMOTION OF IMMORALITY AND
> SUPPRESSION OF PROMISING ESOTERIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES.
> AND YEAH; I'VE GOT A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON REALITY!
> SO WHAT CAN WE ALL DO ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE THE
> PEOPLE ARE ALL, EQUALLY, UP AGAINST?
> DO WE HAVE A PEACEFUL COUP AGAINST THE OUT OF CONTROL
> GOVERNMENT?
> OR DO WE HAVE A VIOLENT REVOLUTION AGAINST THE OUT OF
> CONTROL GOVERNMENT?
> THE CHOICE IS OURS, ISN'T IT?
Please give specifics supporting your claims of GOVERNMENT
betrayal, division, immorality, suppression of energy alternatives, etc.
I don't believe they exist in quite the way you claim.
Our government is running comparatively well...Sure, the FDA isn't
doing it's job, the congress critters are ignorant, etc. But when
stacked up against just about any other major superpower, we are well
ahead across the board.
Division is natural. People classify themselves as they will;
pro/anto abortion, pro/anti prayer in schools, Christian, Muslim,
Jewish, Pagan, Republican / Democrat, racist / egalitarian,
funnymentalist, rich, poor, etc. You can not expect all people to be
equal; they are anything but equal! Yet we, more than any other nation,
tend to treat each other as equal, as peers.
Alternative energy takes money to develop. Just a fact of life.
Corporations tend to go where the cash is now. This is not a function of
government, though we are encouraging development with tax breaks.
As to revolution... remember what happened in Iraq, when we
destroyed the existing government, and did nothing to provide jobs for
the people left wandering with nothing to do? The entire infrastructure
collapsed, and some redneck yahoo Iraqis started their private
shoot-em-up wars.
We too, have our redneck yahoos! Fortunately, they are mostly
reasonably employed, keeping them both occupied and fed, thus
discouraging them from running rampant with their shotguns and pistols.
A revolution will unemploy / disemploy the people who deliver your
daily bread to the store, the bakers, the store clerks, the electrical
company workers, the water company workers, and of course, destroy the
internet.
And without food and potable water, people generally get a bit out
of hand, as we have seen lately in New Orleans, trying to obtain
such in contravention of what we may call the sense of private
ownership, etc. This muchly reduces the population, the technical base,
and other aspects of what some may call personal wealth and convenience.
Revolution is not to be taken lightly. Even mere technological
revolutions cause massive unemployment as corporations crash, lay people
off, and try to cope. Just look at what the PC did -- it lead to the
flattening of many management structures, resulting in massive middle
management layoffs across the board.
What America needs, is a cheap energy revolution. With cheap
energy, manufacturing could utilize energy intensive means vs slower,
harder energy conservative means of production.
The Steel industry could rise again, using electrically driven
blast furnaces instead of the old pollution intensive ones.
Construction materials could be made of translucent fused sand,
foamed for insulation, instead of the traditional concrete and brick.
Indeed, fused-in-place homes could be made, far stronger than brick and
mortar structures. Translucency would create a new decor far
surpassing glass brick.
Mobility would increase as cheap aircraft flights, cheap driving,
motor homes, etc. became available. Automobile and RV manufacturing
would boom.
Stereo-lithography, now too energy intensive for routine
manufacture, would become THE way of manufacture, much as our computer
printers and display screens are slowly replacing the mass production
printing press. Indeed, many things would be custom manufactured at
home using home stereo-lithographic "printers". Break a glass, "print"
another one. Don't like the pattern on your china? "Print" another set.
We see this on Star Trek as replicator. Ours would, at least
initially, be limited to the use of a few materials, such as plastics;
later growing in power to allow the use of fused quartz and fused steel.
Once the early devices became common, attempts would be made to refine
the concept to the molecular level.
I much believe that fused sand technologies would revolutionize
construction and manufacture! Note that I am not talking glass; but
rather something closer to sintering, where sand grains attach to each
other at the corners, rather than melt entirely and flow as a glass.
Homeowners and renters, now paying huge amounts for air
conditioning and heating, not to mention commuting, would be able to
spend hundreds of dollars more a month on consumer goods, rather than
energy costs.
If that energy was portable, then people like myself would finally
have reasonable energy to power telecom links and computers.
As Dyson said, a technical civilization soon runs up against the
limits of available energy. Energy powers everything from tilling the
soil to producing the iron and steel we build our homes and factories
with.
What we need is an energy revolution, NOT a governmental overthrow.
We have an existing sense of order and propriety which must be
preserved; for without this, we devolve to a me vs them animal state.
A state which does not support science, progress, or anything else worth
living for.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 20:18:13 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 20:18:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUPPRESS'T IN THE WEST....
In-Reply-To: <20051008031934.41752.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 07, 2005 08:19:33 PM
Message-ID: <20051010031814.59497.qmail@mall-net.com>
> SUPPRESS'T IN THE WEST;
> IS THE WILD WEST STILL FREE?
Must be, it's where they invented the first personal computers, the
MITS Altair, the IMSAI, the Apple, etc. Not to mention the Internet.
No sane government would ever let such massive power get into their
citizen's hands! Indeed, many nations still require registering every
typewriter, and are trying as hard as they can, to suppress the internet
which equalizes people vs the government.
I paid cash in small bills for my first computer, never filled out
any warranty information, etc. waiting for the other shoe to drop!
Instead, it appears the government and many corporations fell over
as this technology unified and empowered the people.
Yes, the West is still free. And if you want, you can enter the
mountains, portions of which are strewn with dead, partly cannibalized
cars, drunks, maniacs, and other rebels without a cause or clue.
(Not that you'd want to stay there if you had any other viable
alternatives. Seems that most people here don't.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
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Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 20:29:56 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 20:30:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Round Two in the UN's fight to own the Internet
In-Reply-To: <20051007132128.83232.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 07, 2005 06:21:28 AM
Message-ID: <20051010032956.66490.qmail@mall-net.com>
> However, think of this- in the USA, the Internet "is deserving of the
> fullest measure of protection under the First Amendment." (Landmark US
> Supreme Court decision, ACLU v Reno, I believe in 1997) Now if a
> totalitarian state such as China has any say-so over the root DNS servers,
> then it is quite easy to believe that they would simply delete all DNS
> entries, worldwide, that conflict with their ideology. And with police
> states controlling the protocol, would it not be quite easy to dictate that
> all Internet communications have "back doors" for Government surveillance?
At which point, our local DNS servers would soon find themselves
augmented with national domain names that might be suppressed elsewhere.
And even elsewhere, the suppression of DNS entries does nothing to
the growing number of un-named raw-ip sites serving information.
> Despite the hand-wringing of the neolibs, the USA has the widest range of
> basic individual rights and freedoms of any nation. Further, our
> Constitution forbids the USA from being subservient to ANY other nation's
> laws. The Constitution of the United States of America is the root document
> for our nation, it cannot, MUST NOT, be further compromised!
Amem!
> My alternative: Every police-state banana republic that wants to run their
> own root DNS server can do so. Allow the WTU to assign top-level domains,
> and NOTHING MORE! All free-speech loving nations can remain with ICANN,
> operating the Internet under US rules of free speech.
We need a department of democratic pro-perganda to popularize the
understanding of what people can do when they are free -- Create their
own wealth as they see fit! You make one chair for yourself, and sell
ten chairs for others. With that, you buy a table and china.
> I see this as a blatant power-grab by those who did NOTHING to build the
> Internet. These fools wish to steal what Americans have spent money, blood,
> sweat, and tears to create, and offer us NOTHING in return! In fact, they
> offer us less than nothing- they offer us censorship, eavesdropping, and
> subjugation of our society under laws that are anathema to any red-blooded
> American!
These fools still don't understand that a free people create wealth
to suit themselves, and thus far greater total wealth than any
burro-crazy gummamint could ever even imagine!
> After the Iraq oil-for-food scandal, after the gross failure of the UN in
> Somalia and elsewhere, after the Law of the Sea Treaty power-grab, and after
> the UN's demonstrated impotence in dealing with nuclear proliferation in
Yep.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 21:12:33 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 21:12:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051004134349.37331.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 04, 2005 06:43:49 AM
Message-ID: <20051010041233.94957.qmail@mall-net.com>
> And the Vatican says the Bible is designed for "public consumption" and that only THEY have the true information.
>
> STILL THEY - (THE VATICAN) - FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH!
What do you take the Bible for, Gospel? Oy Vey!
> Just get an old CD player from the thrift store and take out the
motor, CD platter and all, then use crazy glue to glue an extra AOL CD
to the platter. The little motor will run on from 9 to 12 volts DC and
makes a really effective gyro with the disc attached.
> I DON'T SEE A C.D. PLAYER MOTOR AS ABLE TO PRODUCE ENOUGH LIFT; EXCEPT
TO LIFT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY VERY EXTREMELY SMALL.
The point, Clyde, is to create a cheap means of proving the concept.
A prototype, a means of seeing whether the rotation whatever produces
unbalanced forces.
Classical physics says this will fail. Using the ultimate in
expensive equipment to try to prove this is a waste of money if the
thing does not work. 99.99% chance it will NOT work. But classical
physics has been wrong before.
> I'D LIKE TO BUY PROFESSIONAL ELECTROMECHANICAL, HIGH ANGULAR VELOCITY
/ HIGH TORQUE GYROS, TO EXPERIMENT WITH; LIKE ONE'S THAT > THE MILITARY
USE. > THEY ARE PROBABLY VERY VERY DAMNED EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE THOUGH.
Yep. Thus you need to try to do simple, cheap experiments, rather
than burning all your money in something likely to fail. But... if you
don't experiment, you will never know.
You may also find that ratios are important.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sun Oct 9 21:50:14 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Sun Oct 9 21:52:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: I WANT TO SEE AMERICA SURVIVE.
Message-ID: <20051009.215046.22551.127242@webmail26.lax.untd.com>
Hi, John.
One reason that classical physics says that Inertial Propulsion systems will fail is that there are still some undiscovered effects. For instance, I've discovered a principle called "Torque Acceleration" which is the principle behind the "Wheel Within a Wheel" concept. My successful, high thrust application of this concept is detailed at: www.spaceoffice.us/ipm.htm
The trick is to accelerate an increasing torque around a pivot point on one side of the torque wheel, then accelerate the decreasing torque around a pivot point on the opposite side of the torque wheel, and keep repeating this sequence. This thruster is in the Public Domain and anyone can build, use or sell it for free. -JV
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> And the Vatican says the Bible is designed for "public consumption" and that only THEY have the true information.
>
> STILL THEY - (THE VATICAN) - FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH!
What do you take the Bible for, Gospel? Oy Vey!
> Just get an old CD player from the thrift store and take out the
motor, CD platter and all, then use crazy glue to glue an extra AOL CD
to the platter. The little motor will run on from 9 to 12 volts DC and
makes a really effective gyro with the disc attached.
> I DON'T SEE A C.D. PLAYER MOTOR AS ABLE TO PRODUCE ENOUGH LIFT; EXCEPT
TO LIFT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY VERY EXTREMELY SMALL.
The point, Clyde, is to create a cheap means of proving the concept.
A prototype, a means of seeing whether the rotation whatever produces
unbalanced forces.
Classical physics says this will fail. Using the ultimate in
expensive equipment to try to prove this is a waste of money if the
thing does not work. 99.99% chance it will NOT work. But classical
physics has been wrong before.
> I'D LIKE TO BUY PROFESSIONAL ELECTROMECHANICAL, HIGH ANGULAR VELOCITY
/ HIGH TORQUE GYROS, TO EXPERIMENT WITH; LIKE ONE'S THAT > THE MILITARY
USE. > THEY ARE PROBABLY VERY VERY DAMNED EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE THOUGH.
Yep. Thus you need to try to do simple, cheap experiments, rather
than burning all your money in something likely to fail. But... if you
don't experiment, you will never know.
You may also find that ratios are important.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 22:14:51 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 22:14:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051003054930.7495.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 02, 2005 10:49:29 PM
Message-ID: <20051010051451.33454.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> I AM READY TO LEAVE WHEN POSSIBLE; I JUST NEED TO TAKE A BOTTLE OF
> WHISKEY WITH ME, SOME XANEX, AND A SUFFICIENT DOSE OF CYANIDE,
> TO CHECK OUT, BOTH EASILY, AND PEACEFULLY, IF THINGS GO WRONG.
That would be letting them, whoever they are, win.
> Speaking of the planet, it will be hard for the Bildergergers (the
international Banking conspiracy) to lose. Even if they have competition
in the Coalescence of the Planet and are collaborating with the Devil. >
When it comes to Satan, that awareness is queer, and that's why the
children, and others, are being molested. I'll bet the CIA, etc., is
also participating - with industrial espionage,
Um... this is highly unlikely, verging(?) on paranoid delusional
thinking.
> YES; I'VE CHALLENGED BIG BUSINESS SO MUCH NOW, THAT I'M MORE THAN
LIKELY UNDER INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE BY EITHER THE AMERICAN GOVT., AND / OR
BY THE COMMUNIST CRAP CHINESE.
They all have bigger fish to fry. Their own fish! They can't even
keep their own people in line; so what makes you think they can do
anything with you???
> Then the CIA joind the KGB, Reagan got in, and the US fell.
What? No way.
We had a number of people in the KGB, keeping us posted on what was
going on. DIA anticipated much of the fall, having been looking for the
tipping point for decades.
Reagan called Gorby's bluff. You want an arms race? Let's have an
arm's race! Gorby went broke first, because the soviet economy wasn't a
working economy.
But as per Clancy's Red Storm Rising, the sov military wanted to
prove who was stronger. Hence Gulf War I. We showed that initiative,
sorely lacking in sov troops, was far more important than Command and
Control, which the sov's excel in. We wiped out their command and
control infrastructure, then just bulldozed them in their trenches.
With that, the sov military was sufficiently demoralized that it
soon fell. The Yazov coup was just a last gasp. Brilliant move on the
US' part!
It was rigged when the US ambassador, a lady, told Saddam we were
not interested in events between him and his neighbors. A feint which
brought his sov bosses out.
In the end, perhaps a dozen of the sov's best tanks were left in
operable condition.
This proved beyond the shadow of doubt that soviet strategy was
worthless! It demoralized the soviet military, and persuaded them that
attacking Europe or the middle east was futile and stupid.
In that, Gulf War I served a rather noble purpose. It prevented
World War III.
> YEP; THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL AND THE IRON CURTAIN SCREWED THIS
> COUNTRY.
There is some validity to this, in that money flowed into the black
hole of the USSR as investment, leaving the rest of the west dryer for
it.
> THE SAYING THAT REAGAN BEAT COMMUNISM IS A LIE.
Quite a few books suggest otherwise, detailing how the triumvirate,
Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II provided quite a push. Seems
the CIA was getting a LOT of general street level input from the priests
in the soviet union courtesy John Paul II.
The key event, however, was the Israeli bombing of Saddam's nuclear
reactor using drones to draw out the surface to air missiles. This is
what prompted Ogharkov to push for loosening of the tight military-like
soviet culture so as to foster innovation. He saw that in the modern
world, innovation, not military discipline, would prevail. And with
that, started a sequence which could not be stopped.
Ogharkov was right. Gulf War I was won by our innovation, and lost
by their hidebound discipline of waiting for commands from the higher
ups. With the communications lines destroyed, those commands never
came, and the Iraqi soldiers started surrendering in larger numbers
than we knew what to do with.
It would have been a much better victory, and Old Salami might not
have dome much, had Bush Sr. not been so dumb as to end the war without
defeating Saddam. Bush Jr. had to finish the job because Saddam was
financing terrorism across much of the world, rewarding the families of
those who killed themselves and others.
> AMERICA IS NOW A COMMUNIST NEOLIB, AND FASCIST NEOCON WARZONE;
Communism and Fascism are not compatible.
> FIGHTING FOR THE MINDS OF THE YOUTH OF THE FUTURE OF THIS DOOMED
> 'COUNTRY, AND' PLANET.
Seems that the only people who give a damned about the mids of the
youth, are rappers who have prison records. And their message is that
there is no future. History, indeed even biology suggests otherwise.
If you want evil, rappers and violent video game manufacturers are
your prime suspects.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 9 22:35:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 9 22:35:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
In-Reply-To: <20051002232729.75138.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 02, 2005 04:27:29 PM
Message-ID: <20051010053555.45153.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN KEEP
> > HANGING IN THERE.
> > MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH.
> > STRESS IS ENDLESS.
>
> at this point, I always take enough vitamin C to get diarrhea.
>
> If you are having breathing issues as well,
> YES! BAD, TERRIBLE FEELING, BREATHING ISSUES: BREATHING TROUBLES AND HEARTACHE FROM HELL.
> then it's the start of anaphylactic shock. if so, call 911 immediately.
>
>
> I'D GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, BUT I CANNOT AFFORD A
> THOUSAND DOLLAR HOSPITAL BILL.
Can you afford death? It makes experimenting more difficult...
particularly the point about manipulating the equipment; though it is
also more difficult to think without a working biological brain.
> CAN YOU GIVE ME SUCCINCT / TRITE DETAILS OF ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK, IN A NUTSHELL: 1. ITS CAUSES; 2. ITS EFFECTS; AND 3. ITS CURE(S)?
http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/shock.html
> if not, then I've found a few grams of C calms me down.
>
> I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TRY MAGNESIUM.
> WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS OF MAGNESIUM???
Diarrhea.
> I WENT TO A RESTERAUNT AT LUNCH TIME AND REQUESTED A COUPLE
>
> OF ORANGE JUICES, AND THEY SEEMED TO HELP FOR A WHILE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF DICED TOMATOES AND SALSA, TOO.
Hypoglycemia is another possibility.
> AND BOUGHT A 2 QUART 100% VITAMIN C CONTAINER OF GUAVA NECTAR;
>
> A THING OF CLOVES (BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE HEALTH BENEFITS OF
EATING PURE ONIONS AND GARLIC IN THE PAST); A BANANA;
> AND SOME OLIVE OIL.
>
> I NEED TO GO AND GET SOME QUALITY GOOD WHOLE GRAIN REAL MCCOY BREAD,
TOMORROW AFTERNOON, OR TOMORROW MORNING, AT A LOCAL MOM AND POP, BREAD
STORE, HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA; NOT THE TYPICAL FAKE SHIT BREADS AT YOUR
AVERAGE TYPE OF GROCERY STORES.
Health food stores carry sprouted grain bread.
> I AM ADDICTED ONCE AGAIN, TO THE PRESCIPTION DRUG: CLONAZEPAM.
>
> THE EFFECTS; (THE FEELINGS) WHEN I AM UNABLE TO TAKE THE DRUG, ARE ABSOLUTE HELL.
Vitamin C has been known to prevent withdrawal symptoms.
Am falling asleep at this point. Long day. Nice to be back on the
net.
> THIS HEARTACHE HYPERTENSION OVERKILL IS GOING TO KILL ME, IF I CANNOT GET IT UNDER CONTROL.
I still say you need to buy a blood pressure cuff and take your
blood pressure three times a day.
Hypoglycemia and low blood pressure are possibilities.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Oct 10 01:56:49 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Mon Oct 10 01:59:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE GOVERNMENT.
Message-ID: <20051010.015706.55.126665@webmail11.lax.untd.com>
I'm really intrigued about the idea of using scintered sand for building materials. (How about roads?) Perhaps there is a way to do it which, while still energy intensive, would not require heat or pressure. BTW Want an energy revolution? Have the government pay everyone for the amount of energy used for legitimate purposes. Before long, everyone will be trying to find ways to get more energy to use. -JV
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> THE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO GOVERN EACH AND
> EVERY ONE OF US WITH FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY HAS BETRAYED
> US AND DIVIDED US, WITH THE PROMOTION OF IMMORALITY AND
> SUPPRESSION OF PROMISING ESOTERIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES.
> AND YEAH; I'VE GOT A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON REALITY!
> SO WHAT CAN WE ALL DO ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE THE
> PEOPLE ARE ALL, EQUALLY, UP AGAINST?
> DO WE HAVE A PEACEFUL COUP AGAINST THE OUT OF CONTROL
> GOVERNMENT?
> OR DO WE HAVE A VIOLENT REVOLUTION AGAINST THE OUT OF
> CONTROL GOVERNMENT?
> THE CHOICE IS OURS, ISN'T IT?
Please give specifics supporting your claims of GOVERNMENT
betrayal, division, immorality, suppression of energy alternatives, etc.
I don't believe they exist in quite the way you claim.
Our government is running comparatively well...Sure, the FDA isn't
doing it's job, the congress critters are ignorant, etc. But when
stacked up against just about any other major superpower, we are well
ahead across the board.
Division is natural. People classify themselves as they will;
pro/anto abortion, pro/anti prayer in schools, Christian, Muslim,
Jewish, Pagan, Republican / Democrat, racist / egalitarian,
funnymentalist, rich, poor, etc. You can not expect all people to be
equal; they are anything but equal! Yet we, more than any other nation,
tend to treat each other as equal, as peers.
Alternative energy takes money to develop. Just a fact of life.
Corporations tend to go where the cash is now. This is not a function of
government, though we are encouraging development with tax breaks.
As to revolution... remember what happened in Iraq, when we
destroyed the existing government, and did nothing to provide jobs for
the people left wandering with nothing to do? The entire infrastructure
collapsed, and some redneck yahoo Iraqis started their private
shoot-em-up wars.
We too, have our redneck yahoos! Fortunately, they are mostly
reasonably employed, keeping them both occupied and fed, thus
discouraging them from running rampant with their shotguns and pistols.
A revolution will unemploy / disemploy the people who deliver your
daily bread to the store, the bakers, the store clerks, the electrical
company workers, the water company workers, and of course, destroy the
internet.
And without food and potable water, people generally get a bit out
of hand, as we have seen lately in New Orleans, trying to obtain
such in contravention of what we may call the sense of private
ownership, etc. This muchly reduces the population, the technical base,
and other aspects of what some may call personal wealth and convenience.
Revolution is not to be taken lightly. Even mere technological
revolutions cause massive unemployment as corporations crash, lay people
off, and try to cope. Just look at what the PC did -- it lead to the
flattening of many management structures, resulting in massive middle
management layoffs across the board.
What America needs, is a cheap energy revolution. With cheap
energy, manufacturing could utilize energy intensive means vs slower,
harder energy conservative means of production.
The Steel industry could rise again, using electrically driven
blast furnaces instead of the old pollution intensive ones.
Construction materials could be made of translucent fused sand,
foamed for insulation, instead of the traditional concrete and brick.
Indeed, fused-in-place homes could be made, far stronger than brick and
mortar structures. Translucency would create a new decor far
surpassing glass brick.
Mobility would increase as cheap aircraft flights, cheap driving,
motor homes, etc. became available. Automobile and RV manufacturing
would boom.
Stereo-lithography, now too energy intensive for routine
manufacture, would become THE way of manufacture, much as our computer
printers and display screens are slowly replacing the mass production
printing press. Indeed, many things would be custom manufactured at
home using home stereo-lithographic "printers". Break a glass, "print"
another one. Don't like the pattern on your china? "Print" another set.
We see this on Star Trek as replicator. Ours would, at least
initially, be limited to the use of a few materials, such as plastics;
later growing in power to allow the use of fused quartz and fused steel.
Once the early devices became common, attempts would be made to refine
the concept to the molecular level.
I much believe that fused sand technologies would revolutionize
construction and manufacture! Note that I am not talking glass; but
rather something closer to sintering, where sand grains attach to each
other at the corners, rather than melt entirely and flow as a glass.
Homeowners and renters, now paying huge amounts for air
conditioning and heating, not to mention commuting, would be able to
spend hundreds of dollars more a month on consumer goods, rather than
energy costs.
If that energy was portable, then people like myself would finally
have reasonable energy to power telecom links and computers.
As Dyson said, a technical civilization soon runs up against the
limits of available energy. Energy powers everything from tilling the
soil to producing the iron and steel we build our homes and factories
with.
What we need is an energy revolution, NOT a governmental overthrow.
We have an existing sense of order and propriety which must be
preserved; for without this, we devolve to a me vs them animal state.
A state which does not support science, progress, or anything else worth
living for.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 10 10:46:05 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 10:46:21 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: LISA-KRAFTWERK
In-Reply-To: <20051003015734.20678.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 02, 2005 06:57:34 PM
Message-ID: <20051010174605.68167.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> BTW-I've already started us on the Mag and Zinc
>
>
>
> I TOOK A ZINC TABLET THE OTHER MORNING, AND FELT TERRIBLE AFTER I
> TOOK IT, BUT THAT WAS A FIRST; (THE FEELING BAD PART OF IT).
It can be a bit astringent on an empty stomach. My doctor uses a
Zinc Tally solution to see whether the patient needs more zinc. If it
taste tart right away, your zinc is normal. If not, the time between
taking and tasting indicates how much zinc is needed. Asparagus is a
rich source of zinc, probably why it tastes so bad.
> I also use Kreb's Cycle Formula and Triple Chrome by Alacer and Ultra
Mag. I got most of the stuff at the Vitamin Shoppe.
>
>
>
> TRIPLE CHROME?
>
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECTS OF TAKING TRIPLE CHROME ARE?
Trivalent chromium tablets (I use Vitaline Formulas brand) helps
the body process glucose and appears to be involved in the production of
dopamine, a neurotransmitter.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 11:13:34 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 11:14:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051010051451.33454.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051010181335.6184.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> YEP; THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL AND THE IRON CURTAIN SCREWED THIS
> COUNTRY.
There is some validity to this, in that money flowed into the black
hole of the USSR as investment, leaving the rest of the west dryer for
it.
YEP; I CERTAINLY AGREE.
> THE SAYING THAT REAGAN BEAT COMMUNISM IS A LIE.
Quite a few books suggest otherwise, detailing how the triumvirate,
Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II
I HAVEN'T READ OR HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT THATCHER; BUT I QUESTION
WHY REAGAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL II, BOTH DIED, OF THE MENTAL
DEGENERATIVE DISEASES THAT THEY DIED FROM;
AND POTENTIAL CONINCIDENCES OF THE MENTAL DISEASES: REAGAN:
ALZHEIMER'S (OLDTIMERS); AND POPE PAUL: PARKINSON'S (ANOTHER FORM
OF OLDTIMER'S IN MY OPINION), THAT THEY BOTH SUFFERED FROM, WHEN
THEY EACH DIED.
> AMERICA IS NOW A COMMUNIST NEOLIB, AND FASCIST NEOCON WARZONE;
Communism and Fascism are not compatible.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NECESSARILY.
YES, THEY CAN BE ENEMIES OF ONE ANOTHER;
BUT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE, THAT THE MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX COULD
BE A WARZONE, WHERE EACH SIDE HAS EQUIVALENT PSYCHOLOGICAL WAREFARE OVER AMERICA, AND OVER THE ENTIRE PLANET FOR THAT CASE; PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE FOR BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN ALIKE; TO FURTHER THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS - NEW AGE PEDO-HOMOSEXUALISM CONTROVERSY; AND I DARE SAY: CONSPIRACY????
> FIGHTING FOR THE MINDS OF THE YOUTH OF THE FUTURE OF THIS DOOMED
> 'COUNTRY, AND' PLANET.
Seems that the only people who give a damn about the minds of the
youth, are rappers who have prison records. And their message is that
there is no future. History, indeed even biology suggests otherwise.
If you want evil, rappers and violent video game manufacturers are
your prime suspects.
THE WAY THAT I SEE THINGS GOING NOW:
1. EITHER WE HAVE A FUTURE BEFORE US, THAT IS BEYOND OUR WILDEST
DREAMS, AS CRAZY AS IT SEEMS!!!!;
OR;
2. WE HAVE A NEARLY ABSOLUTELY TOTALITARIAN WAR
DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE STORM ON THE HORIZON....
WHICH WILL IT BE????;
COULD IT BE ONE OR THE OTHER; OR COULD IT BE BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY????
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 11:44:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051010181335.6184.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 10, 2005 11:13:34 AM
Message-ID: <20051010184403.8086.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > THE SAYING THAT REAGAN BEAT COMMUNISM IS A LIE.
>
> Quite a few books suggest otherwise, detailing how the triumvirate,
> Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II
>
>
>
> I HAVEN'T READ OR HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT THATCHER; BUT I QUESTION
> WHY REAGAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL II, BOTH DIED, OF THE MENTAL
> DEGENERATIVE DISEASES THAT THEY DIED FROM;
They were both rather old, so yes, they both died of typical old
timer's diseases.
> THE WAY THAT I SEE THINGS GOING NOW:
>
> 1. EITHER WE HAVE A FUTURE BEFORE US, THAT IS BEYOND OUR WILDEST
> DREAMS, AS CRAZY AS IT SEEMS!!!!;
>
> OR;
>
> 2. WE HAVE A NEARLY ABSOLUTELY TOTALITARIAN WAR
> DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE STORM ON THE HORIZON....
>
> WHICH WILL IT BE????;
>
> COULD IT BE ONE OR THE OTHER; OR COULD IT BE BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY????
Likely both.
The race now is to prevent China from going to war with us. This
means
1. building up our military and showing the world we ARE a
powerful nation, and
2. trying to get Democracy to take hold in China in the belief that
democratic nations don't declare war against each other.
3. Taking back the Moon for military use. It's a good place to
throw rocks from. (Ref "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A.
Heinline.)
Why use nuclear weapons, when plain old rocks dropped from high
enough will do? Far, far cheaper per square foot of crater size when
used for carpet bombing anyone back to the stone age!
Also, the time lag on attacking to and from the moon is the best
deterrent there is for war! It makes a surprise attack impossible, and
the survivors on the moon get to carpet bomb the aggressor very, very
cheaply and thoroughly, using solar power and just plain rock. Added
benefit that the resulting craterized landscape is well fertilized for
agriculture, at least after the local neo-peasants level it.
Thus, since we don't want to be those neo-peasants, we MUST take
back the moon in the name of Democracy and Humanity!
(Not to mention the technological fallout from our attempting to
colonize the moon, which should do wonders for our economy. Our space
program gave us some $55 dollars in long term technology based benefits
for every dollar we spent! When you try to do the impossible, you
invent all kinds of new technologies! And that puts us way ahead of
the rest of the world in terms of economic competition!)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 14:27:45 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 14:27:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051010184403.8086.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051010212745.8504.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
> THE WAY THAT I SEE THINGS GOING NOW:
>
> 1. EITHER WE HAVE A FUTURE BEFORE US, THAT IS BEYOND OUR WILDEST
> DREAMS, AS CRAZY AS IT SEEMS!!!!;
>
> OR;
>
> 2. WE HAVE A NEARLY ABSOLUTELY TOTALITARIAN WAR
> DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE STORM ON THE HORIZON....
>
> WHICH WILL IT BE????;
>
> COULD IT BE ONE OR THE OTHER; OR COULD IT BE BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY????
Likely both.
The race now is to prevent China from going to war with us. This
means
1. building up our military and showing the world we ARE a
powerful nation, and
I SUPPORT THE MILITARY; THAT IS; IF WE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY
ARE AS FAIR AS FAIR CAN BE TO OUR SOLDIERS; AND THE MAIN POINT THAT I MAKE BY SAYING THIS; IS A LIMITLESS DOSE OF PAINKILLERS FOR EACH AND EVERY SOLDIER, IF THEY HAVE TO BE OUT ON THE BATTLEFIELD, FIGHTING HAND TO HAND COMBAT WITH THE RED AND YELLOW CHINESE, AND THE RED AND YELLOW AND BROWN AND WHOEVER ELSE OTHERS OUT THERE, WHO WANT TO FIGHT.
2. trying to get Democracy to take hold in China in the belief that
democratic nations don't declare war against each other.
OK.
3. Taking back the Moon for military use. It's a good place to
throw rocks from. (Ref "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A.
Heinline.)
Why use nuclear weapons, when plain old rocks dropped from high
enough will do? Far, far cheaper per square foot of crater size when
used for carpet bombing anyone back to the stone age!
I GOT A GOOD LAUGH AT YOUR REPLY HERE!
Also, the time lag on attacking to and from the moon is the best
deterrent there is for war! It makes a surprise attack impossible, and
the survivors on the moon get to carpet bomb the aggressor very, very
cheaply and thoroughly, using solar power and just plain rock. Added
benefit that the resulting craterized landscape is well fertilized for
agriculture, at least after the local neo-peasants level it.
LAUGHING AGAIN; THE ROCK DISTRIBUTES ENOUGH MINERALS
TO FERTILIZE THE SITE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, WHERE IT HITS!
Thus, since we don't want to be those neo-peasants, we MUST take
back the moon in the name of Democracy and Humanity!
DAMN STRAIGHT!
I'M ALL FOR THAT!
(Not to mention the technological fallout from our attempting to
colonize the moon, which should do wonders for our economy. Our space
program gave us some $55 dollars in long term technology based benefits
for every dollar we spent! When you try to do the impossible, you
invent all kinds of new technologies! And that puts us way ahead of
the rest of the world in terms of economic competition!)
GOOD!
LET'S GET THAT TECHNOLOGY: OUR TECHNOLOGY! ; ROLLING OFF OF THE ASSEMBLY LINES HERE IN THE GOOD OLD U. S. OF A., INSTEAD OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS WORTHLESS ASSEMBLY LINE SHIT, OUT OF TURD WORLD COUNTRY CHINA!
LATER, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 14:46:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 14:46:25 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051010181335.6184.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051010214610.12652.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Quite a few books suggest otherwise, detailing how the triumvirate,
Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II
I HAVEN'T READ OR HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT THATCHER; BUT I QUESTION
WHY REAGAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL II, BOTH DIED, OF THE MENTAL
DEGENERATIVE DISEASES THAT THEY DIED FROM, *BEING THAT THEY WERE BOTH POLITICAL LEADERS.*
> AMERICA IS NOW A COMMUNIST NEOLIB, AND FASCIST NEOCON WARZONE;
Communism and Fascism are not compatible.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NECESSARILY.
YES, THEY CAN BE ENEMIES OF ONE ANOTHER;
BUT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE, THAT THE MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX COULD
BE A WARZONE, WHERE EACH SIDE HAS EQUIVALENT PSYCHOLOGICAL WAREFARE OVER AMERICA, AND OVER THE ENTIRE PLANET FOR THAT CASE; PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE FOR BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN ALIKE; TO FURTHER THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS - NEW AGE PEDO-HOMOSEXUALISM CONTROVERSY; AND I DARE SAY: CONSPIRACY????
> FIGHTING FOR THE MINDS OF THE YOUTH OF THE FUTURE OF THIS DOOMED
> 'COUNTRY, AND' PLANET.
Seems that the only people who give a damn about the minds of the
youth, are rappers who have prison records. And their message is that
there is no future.
YEP; BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.
'MOST, OR' MANY OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY ARE TRAPPED, FAR WORSE
THAN ANY OF US WHITE FOLK.
IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ABE LINCOLN ABOLISHING SLAVERY OF THE
BLACKS, THE FUTURE OF THE KU KLUX KLAN FROM ABE LINCOLNS TIME PERIOD ON, FREEMASONRY, ORDER OF DE MOLAY, SKULL AND BONES, BOHEMIAN GROVE ORDER OF DEATH, AND THE LUCIFER'S TRUST- 'U.N.' (UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS NEW AGE, AS WELL AS GLOBAL RELIGIOUS CONFLICTS AND GANG WARS, ETC....
I DON'T HAVE A CONSPIRACY THEORY TO PRESENT.
JUST THIS LIST OF INTER-TWINING KNOWN'S, ABOUT REALITY, AS THE PART OF
IT THAT I CAN SEE THE EVIDENCE OF, FROM ALL OF THE CRAZINESS OUT THERE
THAT I HAVE SEEN, MOSTLY THROUGH SYMBOLISM.
History, indeed even biology suggests otherwise.
I WANT AMERICA TO SURVIVE..!
I SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION PARTY, AND A DRASTIC REVIVAL OF AMERICA
TO ITS MORAL ORIGINS, AND TO A FUTURE WHERE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY IS
CLEAN AND EFFICIENT, AND IF NOT FREE AND NONPOLLUTING; THEN NEARLY FREE AND NONPOLLUTING..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 16:15:05 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 16:15:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICHAEL FRANTI AND SPEARHEAD: BOMB THE WORLD;
SONG LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051010231505.80809.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
MICHAEL FRANTI AND SPEARHEAD: BOMB THE WORLD; SONG LYRICS:
http://hotburrito.100megsfree5.com/music/songs/2000/frantibomb.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 10 17:46:50 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 17:47:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Wonder Who Rules America
In-Reply-To: <20051010212745.8504.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 10, 2005 02:27:45 PM
Message-ID: <20051011004650.38271.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 3. Taking back the Moon for military use. It's a good place to
> throw rocks from. (Ref "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A.
> Heinline.)
>
> Why use nuclear weapons, when plain old rocks dropped from high
> enough will do? Far, far cheaper per square foot of crater size when
> used for carpet bombing anyone back to the stone age!
>
> I GOT A GOOD LAUGH AT YOUR REPLY HERE!
A boulder is going to have a lot of kinetic energy at the bottom of
the gravity well! I've not done the math, but we've seen some of the
results now and then as satellites fall to earth. (As opposed to
meteors, which have quite a bit of additional energy form the movement
of the earth, the larger gravity well of the sun, etc.)
> Thus, since we don't want to be those neo-peasants, we MUST take
> back the moon in the name of Democracy and Humanity!
>
>
> DAMN STRAIGHT!
>
> I'M ALL FOR THAT!
Good. Vote accordingly. Bush wants us on the moon. The Democrats
want to spend the money on welfare. Welfare does not make astronauts or
space ships. But it can give some a chance to get off welfare and on to
a payroll.
> (Not to mention the technological fallout from our attempting to
> colonize the moon, which should do wonders for our economy. Our space
> program gave us some $55 dollars in long term technology based benefits
> for every dollar we spent! When you try to do the impossible, you
> invent all kinds of new technologies! And that puts us way ahead of
> the rest of the world in terms of economic competition!)
>
> GOOD!
>
> LET'S GET THAT TECHNOLOGY: OUR TECHNOLOGY! ; ROLLING OFF OF THE
ASSEMBLY LINES HERE IN THE GOOD OLD U. S. OF A., INSTEAD OF THE
CEASELESS SENSELESS WORTHLESS ASSEMBLY LINE SHIT, OUT OF TURD WORLD
COUNTRY CHINA!
Right!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 19:42:14 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 10 19:42:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THREE CURRENT WEBSITES TO SHARE....
Message-ID: <20051011024214.16680.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
THREE CURRENT WEBSITES TO SHARE:
1. http://www.standeyo.com
2. http://www.nomorefakenews.com/
3. http://www.neilslade.com/
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 10 20:16:18 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 10 20:17:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THREE CURRENT WEBSITES TO SHARE....
In-Reply-To: <20051011024214.16680.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 10, 2005 07:42:14 PM
Message-ID: <20051011031619.33496.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 1. http://www.standeyo.com
selected news... "all the news that fits" our viewpoint, we link.
Pat Robertson's 700 club -- the end times are coming! Wait a minute, I
heard him say that in the 1970's.
> 2. http://www.nomorefakenews.com/
No more news, period. Occult knowledge.... archaic programming
languages would be better. Struble, Programming the IBM 360, 8080
Reference Manual, or any college physics books would be better choices.
As for symbols... why not the symbolic representationalism of higher
mathematics for better prediction of physics events?
>
> 3. http://www.neilslade.com/
Vivaldi does some of those things... will have to look at this one a
little bit more.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Tue Oct 11 00:12:08 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 00:12:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Who will stop the rain
Message-ID: <29.7d704b87.307cbfc8@aol.com>
We are getting very wet here. The western part of the state has houses
floating away, roads collapsing a couple of men have died, drowned. One bridge
washed out, but so far the dam is holding.
On the coast we have the rain but no problems yet, water flows into some
cellars but nothing a good pump can't handle.
Can't find any update on the damage so far, it's 3 am and only national news
at this hour.Got to head for work now, hope my house is here when I get home
14 hours from now.
Have a good day to all,
regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 07:43:07 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 11 07:43:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JAVILK (JOHN);
ARE YOU KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THYROXINE?
Message-ID: <20051011144307.45811.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
AT YOUR WEBLINK;
http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/shock.html
A PORTION OF WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN
IS:
phenylalanine/tyrosine + iodine -- > thyroxine
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECTS
OF THYROXINE ARE, AND WHAT THEY
EFFECT IN PARTICULAR, AS WELL AS
EXPLAIN THE EFFECTS OF:
1. PHENYLALANINE.
2. TYROSINE.
3. DOPAMINE.
AND;
4. EPIPHRENINE.
DO YOU HAVE DETAILED, SPECIFIC, AND VERY VERY TRITE
KNOWLEDGE, REGARDING THESE POISONS TO MY
EXISTANCE?
CLYDE
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Tue Oct 11 14:21:25 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 14:21:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Drying somewhat
Message-ID:
I hear on the news that of the 14 missing in the towns with the worse
flooding here that 10 of the 14 missing people have been found safe.
Mike, I hope your family were not in the flooding area and are o.k.
I finally had a chance to see the news films on the damage and was amazed at
the condition of the homes, roads, and the shock on the faces of the people
who had their homes wash away.
One small town with their main road gone have to travel 60 miles through 3
states to get to their post office. Can't get there from here is not just an
expression for them. I thought that sounded extreme but we traced their rout
and give or take 10 miles that is a fact.
Here we are some what dry, ground is really wet, most of the water drained
out at low tide, but, if more rain comes there will be the problem of the trees
falling over due to their roots coming out of the ground.
Old mother nature seems to be acting up all over the country, fires in Cal.
snow in Co. this is the year for surprises.
Regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 17:15:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 11 17:15:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
Message-ID: <20051012001532.68098.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
THE DOCTOR OF THE FUTURE WILL GIVE NO MEDICINE,
BUT WILL INTEREST HIS PATIENTS IN THE CARE OF THE
HUMAN FRAME IN DIET AND IN THE CAUSE AND
PREVENTION OF DISEASE.
THOMAS EDISON
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 17:16:28 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 11 17:16:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNDER THE SAME SUN; LYRICS AND SONG;
BY: THE SCORPIONS
Message-ID: <20051012001628.91478.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
UNDER THE SAME SUN; LYRICS AND SONG; BY:
THE SCORPIONS:
http://scorpions.donthum.com/underthesamesunlyrics.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 11 17:50:35 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 17:50:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
In-Reply-To: <20051012001532.68098.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 11, 2005 05:15:32 PM
Message-ID: <20051012005035.80401.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE DOCTOR OF THE FUTURE WILL GIVE NO MEDICINE,
> BUT WILL INTEREST HIS PATIENTS IN THE CARE OF THE
> HUMAN FRAME IN DIET AND IN THE CAUSE AND
> PREVENTION OF DISEASE.
>
> THOMAS EDISON
That's the doctors of the past. Though the Orthomolecular doctors,
http://www.orthomed.com and http://www.orthomed.org do use nutrition in
the form of supplements to this end.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 11 18:19:18 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 11 18:19:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JAVILK (JOHN);
In-Reply-To: <20051011144307.45811.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 11, 2005 07:43:07 AM
Message-ID: <20051012011918.96656.qmail@mall-net.com>
> http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/shock.html
>
> A PORTION OF WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN
> IS:
>
> phenylalanine/tyrosine + iodine -- > thyroxine
>
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECTS
> OF THYROXINE ARE, AND WHAT THEY
> EFFECT IN PARTICULAR, AS WELL AS
> EXPLAIN THE EFFECTS OF:
Thyroxine, thyroid hormone. Raises body temperature via increased
metabolism. Without it, one feels sluggish, has low body temperature,
etc. Too much can cause one to be over-active, impatient.
>
> 1. PHENYLALANINE.
An amino acid found in meat protein. Can cause one to become quite
nervous.
> 2. TYROSINE.
An amino acid found in meat protein. Feedstock to both thyroid
hormone and dopamine, and via another step, epinephrine.
Iodine can help shunt tyrosine into the thyroid pathway.
Lacking iodine, person may start using more adrenaline to increase
muscle metabolism and tension, and hence generate more heat.
(Have you considered taking iodine supplements, trying seaweeds such
as Dulse?)
> 3. DOPAMINE.
In the brain, a neurotransmitter. In the body, precursor to
adrenaline. Manufactured by the chromaffin cells in the body, and the
stubstantia nigra in the brain. Low in cases of Parkinsons. When low,
movement becomes difficult. Production requires trivalent chromium as a
co-factor/catalyst.
> 4. EPIPHRENINE.
Spelling? Epinephrine
Adrenaline. Instant energy. Manufactured by the adrenal glands,
sitting just above the kidneys. Lower back pain is sometimes noted when
these are overworked. Has amazing power to boost muscle strength,
increase heart beat, focus the mind, reduce bleeding, and generally deal
with almost all forms of stress.
Reduces surface circulation. Part of the "Chill" one feels in
stressful situations.
Epinephrine in high quantities can make one feel paranoid.
Metabolites can cause one to become mildly delusional, etc.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 06:26:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 06:26:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20051012132627.89304.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
A PORTION OF MY REPLY, BACK
TO A FRIEND, HERE, IN S-TOWN
(SLUMTOWN) TULSA.
CLYDE
wrote:
Nice thought but I doubt it will ever occur.
MAYBE NOT ENTIRELY OCCUR, BUT
I HAVE SEEN GOOD ALTERNATIVES
THAT WORK BETTER THAN CHEMICAL
CLOAK-ISM.
THE WORDS: MEDICINE AND
MEDICATION HAVE BECOME EVIL
WORDS TO ME.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE WORD:
ENVIRON-MENT (ENVIRONMENT);
THAT IS, IF I WOULD NECESSARILY
CONSIDER IT AS AN EVIL WORD, BUT I
HAVE DEFINATELY COME TO HATE
THE WORD ENVIRONMENT; WHICH
MEANS THE EXACT SAME AS
IMPRISONMENT, ENPRISONMENT, AND
SLAVERY.
I'VE BOTH LEARNED, AND FIGURED
OUT, WITH THE HELP OF OTHERS, THAT
IT IS BOTH THE ENVIRONMENT, AND MY
UN-DYING WILL TO SUCCEED - AMONG
ECONOMIC, AND ECOLOGICAL SLAVERY.
THE ECONOMIC AND ECOLOGIC(AL)
SLAVERY THAT ARE UPON ME AND
MY LIFE, AND UPON ALL PEOPLE, I GUESS.
NOT TO MENTION AT LEAST THIS
PORTION OF TULSA, WHERE I CURRENTLY
AM FORCED TO HAVE TO RESIDE: THE
OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED TULSA
UNION ALSUMA TULSA DISTRICT!
ONCE THE SMALL (MICRO) TOWN OF
ALSUMA; ALSUMA IS NOW OWNED
BY THE DICTATORSHIP (DICTATORSHIT)
OF UNION (ONION) SCHOOL DISTRICT,
ALONG WITH THE SHITTY OF TULSA.
THIS DISTRICT; UNDER FASCIST AND
COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIT; BY UNION
AND TULSA, IS AN INDUSTRIAL SLUM;
A F'ING WASTELAND; WHERE PROGRESS
IS FOREVER HALF ASSED, WHERE
PROGRESS NEVER EVER LASTS, WHERE
PROGRESS AND SUCCESS ARE
SUPPRESSED, AND ARE BOTH
OVERZONED, AND OVERTAXED.
MANY MANY PEOPLE HERE IN TULSA
ARE ANGRY AND MISERABLE ALL OF THE
TIME.
IS TULSA TIME TO BLAME?
I AM ENVIRONMENTALLY SICK OF TULSA;
AND THE CHEMICAL-ISM OF MAINSTREAM
HEALTHCARE HAS LET ME DOWN.
I HATE ZYSEXA (ZYPREXA), AND I HATE
CLOCKOPIN (KLONOPIN).
THEY ARE BOTH; WITH EQUALITY; DRUG
ADDICTIONS..!
I NEED TO GO TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM;
TO A REAL HOSPITAL.
NOT A PSEUDOLOGICAL SO-CALLED
HOSPITAL.
I'VE GOT CARDIOVASCULAR PROBLEMS
FROM THE COMBINATION OF PNEUMONIA IN
MY CHILDHOOD, AND FROM THE
EXPERIMENTATION WITH MARIJUANA WITH
HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS.
I AM ALSO MORE THAN LIKELY SUFFERING
TOO, FROM OVER CARBON MONOXIDE AND
OVER CARBON DIOXIDE TOXICITY EXPOSURE.
MY BREATHING IS SHALLOW; AND I MORE
THAN LIKELY HAVE CARDIOVASCULAR
DAMAGE FROM VALPROIC ACID - DEPOKOTE.
MY HEART IS BROKEN, AND MY MIND IS TOO.
MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY,
AND IS WORKING OVERTIME.
MY LIVER HAS SCARRING, AND SOME TROUBLE
WITH IT AS WELL.
MY BODY IS WAY, TOO, HIGHLY ACIDIC; AND I
NEED ALKALINE AMONG OTHER THINGS, TO
HELP TO PUT PEACE BACK INTO MY LIFE.
AMERICA ALSO NEEDS MAJOR CHANGE, BACK
TO BEING A MORAL NATION.
AND:::: !!!!
AMERICA ALSO EQUALLY NEEDS SMALL
SCALE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES TO BE MADE
INEXPENSIVELY AVAILABLE, ABLING BOTH THE
EDUCATED LITTLE MAN, AND THE UNEDUCATED
LITTLE MAN ALIKE, TO BE EQUALLY ENERGY
INDEPENDENT.
I WANT AMERICA TO SURVIVE!
AS FRUSTRATED, AND AS STRESSED AS EVER,
AND, AS CAN BE;
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 07:36:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JAVILK (JOHN);
In-Reply-To: <20051012011918.96656.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051012143603.65368.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/shock.html
>
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECTS
> OF THYROXINE ARE, AND WHAT THEY
> EFFECT IN PARTICULAR, AS WELL AS
> EXPLAIN THE EFFECTS OF:
Thyroxine, thyroid hormone. Raises body temperature via increased
metabolism. Without it, one feels sluggish, has low body temperature,
etc. Too much can cause one to be over-active, impatient.
I DO HAVE A LOWER BODY TEMPERATURE THAN OTHERS
BECAUSE I'M A SLINDER PERSON.
I'M CERTAINLY OVER-ACTIVE AS WELL AS VERY IMPATIENT
MOST OF THE TIME NOW, IN MY ADULTHOOD; DUE TO BOTH
MY EXTREME PERFECTIONISM THAT I HAVE, AND DUE TO MY
EXTREME INFLEXIBILTY IN LIFE.
> 1. PHENYLALANINE.
An amino acid found in meat protein. Can cause one to become quite
nervous.
SO PHENYLALANINE IS NOT GOOD FOR MYSELF THEN; HAVING A
HYPERACTIVE NEUROLOGY, AND HAVING HYPERTENSION STRESS
FROM ALL HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF.
> 2. TYROSINE.
An amino acid found in meat protein. Feedstock to both thyroid
hormone and dopamine, and via another step, epinephrine.
Iodine can help shunt tyrosine into the thyroid pathway.
OK; BUT ARE YOU KNOWLEDEABLE ABOUT WHAT THE RESULTS OF AN ABUNDANCE, OR AN OVERABUNDANCE OF TYROSINE ARE?
WHAT ARE THE RESULTS OF AN ABUNDANCE OR OF AN OVERABUNDANCE
OF TYROSINE IN THE SYSTEM?
Lacking iodine, person may start using more adrenaline to increase
muscle metabolism and tension, and hence generate more heat.
(Have you considered taking iodine supplements, trying seaweeds such
as Dulse?)
YES; I PURCHASED SOME OF THAT LIQUID KELP, FROM THE LOCAL HEALTH
FOOD STORE, AND TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
IT MAY HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD WHEN I TESTED IT, BUT IT DIDN'T
DO A LOT OF GOOD.
I WAS WARNED AT THE TIME THAT I GOT IT, BY MY (BIMBO) NURSE MOTHER,
THAT TOO MUCH IODINE WILL CAUSE THE THYROID GLAND(S) TO SWELL, IN
THE THROAT; AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, AND SO I NO
LONGER USED IT, AFTER THAT TESTING.
> 3. DOPAMINE.
In the brain, a neurotransmitter.
OK.
In the body, precursor to adrenaline.
FOR BOTH GOOD, AND FOR BAD.?
QUESTION IS: DO I NEED MORE DOPAMINE, OR LESS DOPAMINE?
Manufactured by the chromaffin cells in the body, and the
stubstantia nigra in the brain. Low in cases of Parkinsons.
When low, movement becomes difficult. Production requires
trivalent chromium as a co-factor/catalyst.
I WONDER HOW TRIVALENT CHROMIUM MAY BENEFIT ME; IT WILL
BENEFIT ME?
> 4. EPIPHRENINE.
Spelling? Epinephrine
YEAH; JUST MY SPELLING ERROR.
Adrenaline. Instant energy. Manufactured by the adrenal glands,
sitting just above the kidneys. Lower back pain is sometimes noted when
these are overworked.
PERHAPS THE REASONS WHY I HAVE LOWER BACK PAIN!
MY RIGHT KIDNEY, AS I FOUND OUT, IS NOT FUNCTIONING
PROPERLY, AND IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND MY ADRENALS
ARE MOST CERTAINLY WORKING OVERTIME.
Has amazing power to boost muscle strength, increase heart beat,
focus the mind, reduce bleeding, and generally deal with almost all
forms of stress.
YEAH; I CERTAINLY KNOW THE FEELING(S)!
Reduces surface circulation. Part of the "Chill" one feels in
stressful situations.
OK.
Epinephrine in high quantities can make one feel paranoid.
Metabolites can cause one to become mildly delusional, etc.
I'M GLAD I'VE FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THESE TYPE OF
QUESTIONS; ITS BEEN LONG OVERDUE, CAUSED BY MY BEING
SO PREOCCUPIED WITH SO MUCH CEASELESS SENSELESS
BULLSHIT WITH WHAT MOST PEOPLE CALL LIFE; IT HAS PUT
MUCH OF THIS TOPIC TO THE SIDE; SHELVED FOR A LONG TIME.
RIGHT NOW; THE WAY THAT I AM, I NEED TO START EATING A
LOT OF SOUR ALKALINES, AS I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT MY BODY
pH IS FAR FAR TOO ACIDIC.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT SOUR SUPPLEMENTS
ARE OUT THERE, AND WHICH ONE THAT I MIGHT START OUT USING?
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:36:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: TIA Daily -- October 11,
2005 -- ENVIRONMENTALISM.
In-Reply-To: <200510112328.j9BNSOKP030524@web.category4.com>
Message-ID: <20051012153633.58677.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
I HAVE REJECTED THE WORDS: ENVIRONMENT,
AND ENVIRONMENTALISM.
BECAUSE THE TWO WORDS ARE USED
INCORRECTLY, BY BOTH THE ENVIRON-MENTALISTS
- (ENPRISON-MENTALISTS); WHICH ARE ALSO
USED INCORRECTLY, JUST AS EQUALLY, BY
AVERAGE ORDINARY EVERYDAY PEOPLE.
IT IS HAVING A CLEAN ATMOSPHERE; HAVING A
CLEAN ECOLOGY; HAVING THE HIDDEN - REPRESSED
SUSTAINABLE ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES MADE MASS PRODUCED AND
AVAILABLE: FOR AUTOMOTIVE, FOR RESIDENTIAL,
AND FOR (SMALL) BUSINESS THAT MANY OF US
ACROSS AMERICA AND AROUND THE GLOBE SO
DESPERATELY NEED; THE DRASTIC MAJOR MORAL
REVIVAL OF AMERICA THAT IS MANDATORY FOR OUR
SURVIVAL AS WELL; AND THE MAJOR HEALTH
CARE REFORM THAT WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA
AND THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS ENTIRE
PLANET SO DESPERATELY NEED.
NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE PLANET;
WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR MINDS, OUR HEARTS,
AND OUR BODIES, EQUALLY AS WELL; WITH ZERO
EXCEPTIONS..!
ENVIRONMENTALISM, ='S, ENPRISON-MENTALISM..!
CLYDE
TIA Daily < editor@TIADaily.com > wrote:
TIA Daily -- October 11, 2005
5. The Extinction of Environmentalism
The past decade has seen some nearly imperceptible signs of the fading of environmentalism as a political influence after its high-water mark around 1990. One of those signs is the growing chorus of support for the renewed use of the chemical pesticide DDT to fight malaria. Why is this significant? Because DDT is the foundational myth of the environmentalist movement.
Environmentalism is built around a structure of pseudo-scientific claims, beginning with Rachel Carson's 1962 anti-DDT tract "Silent Spring," which prompted the EPA's ban on DDT in 1972. If the public discovers that Carson's claims were false and that the ban on DDT actually caused millions of unnecessary deaths from malaria, then environmentalism will begin to lose it claim to scientific credibility.
The Washington Post column below begins with some formulaic Bush-bashing (presumably to protect the writer's liberal credentials), then describes Carson's claims as "overblown," blames environmentalists for "ignoring science," and calls European efforts to block the use of DDT "absurd" and "anti-scientific."
http://tinyurl.com/8tkbq
"Look Who's Ignoring Science Now," Sebastian Mallaby, Washington Post, October 10
"[I]n 1970 the National Academy of Sciences estimated that the chemical had prevented 500 million deaths. And yet, despite that astounding number, DDT has all but disappeared from the malaria arsenal. Some 500 million people still get the disease annually, and at least 1 million die, but the World Health Organization refuses to recommend DDT spraying.... Why does Europe impede Uganda's fight against malaria? The standard answer starts with 'Silent Spring,' the book that helped launch the environmental movement in the 1960s and that painted a scary picture of DDT's potential impact on the food chain. But this is only half right. The book's overblown claims led to the banning of DDT in the United States in 1972 and its disappearance from aid-funded programs thereafter.... [T]he environmentalists' credibility in calling for necessary regulation would be enhanced if they were willing to denounce unnecessary regulation. But you don't hear them yelling about the European Union's a!
bsurd position on Uganda."
-1- "Environmentalism's Big Lie: Renewable Energy," by Jack Wakeland, October 2001
http://tinyurl.com/bwwc7
This article surveys the real facts about environmentalists' attitude toward "alternative" or "renewable" energy, showing how they have turned against every one of these alternatives, from hydroelectric dams to windmill farms, the moment they show potential to become a practical source of energy.
"Many environmentalists claim that putting the earth first only requires man to switch his power source from one technology to another; that the only thing their ideology requires is that the production of man-made power not deplete the earth's 'limited' resources.... In reality, these claims that renewable energy can replace fossil fuels and nuclear power are a fraud. In California, moreover, environmentalists have revealed that their real attitude toward renewable energy is no less hostile than their attitude toward all other forms of man-made power. After the installation of hundreds of 'alternative' energy plants in the state--in the nation's most ambitious program to build environmentally correct power plants--the greens have begun to reject one renewable power technology after another...."
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:38:21 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MOVIE: SUPERSIZE ME.
Message-ID: <20051012153815.26451.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
I ALSO GOT TO SEE PART OF THE MOVIE: SUPERSIZE
ME, LAST NIGHT, BUT HAD TO TURN IT OFF AND SAVE
WATCHING MORE OF IT UNTIL TODAY, BECAUSE IT WAS
JUST STRESSING ME OUT TOO MUCH LAST NIGHT, BY
WATCHING IT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT TO SEE THAT MOVIE; I WOULD
DEFINATELY RECOMMEND IT AS ONE OF THE TOP
HIGHLIGHTED MOVIES TO WATCH.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 08:43:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:43:41 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
Message-ID: <20051012154332.56356.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
THROUGHOUT SPACE THERE IS ENERGY.
IS THIS ENERGY STATIC, OR KINETIC?
IF STATIC, OUR HOPES ARE IN VAIN.
IF KINETIC; AND THIS WE KNOW IT IS
FOR CERTAIN; THEN IT IS A MERE
QUESTION OF TIME WHEN MEN WILL
SUCCEED IN ATTACHING THEIR
MACHINERY TO THE VERY WHEELWORK
OF NATURE.
NIKOLA TESLA
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 08:53:30 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:53:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Moral Poverty 101.
In-Reply-To:
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-------Original Message-------
I don't know the man who wrote this. He says things here that no white man could ever write and keep his job as a writer, and he speaks the truth. He is a replacement for Jesse Jackson.
Moral poverty cost blacks in New Orleans
Posted: September 21, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
? 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?
Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.
To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.
For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.
This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.
No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.
Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually stated that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.
Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform ? legally and practically ? fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin ? the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show Nagin failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."
One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. There is photographic exact evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now ? the photo showing parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?
Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.
About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I also have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.
President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.
All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty ? not their material poverty ? that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated ? they only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.
The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America."
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Oct 12 14:28:53 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 14:29:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
Message-ID:
In a message dated 10/11/2005 8:16:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
THE DOCTOR OF THE FUTURE WILL GIVE NO MEDICINE,
BUT WILL INTEREST HIS PATIENTS IN THE CARE OF THE
HUMAN FRAME IN DIET AND IN THE CAUSE AND
PREVENTION OF DISEASE.
THOMAS EDISON
Clyde, I think not. Things happen, you can do everything under the sun in
regards to prevention but, life happens when you least expect it.
You can brush, floss, get cleaning every 6 months of your teeth, and
still get an abscess.
Abscess before you even are aware there is a problem, the poison is
going into your blood stream. It can cause problems with all your bodily
systems. In ages ago people were placed in mental hospitals due to the effects of
the poison in their system, later the unbelievable pain that follows, caused
patients to be chained to their beds.
I have seen skulls, thousands of years old with abscess that ate into the
bone of the jaw. Strange that it seemed to only effect the lower jaw. I
cannot believe the pain these people endured.
There are thousands of other problems of the human body that no outside
preventive measures can prevent.
regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 15:02:26 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 15:02:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: TIA Daily -- October 11,
In-Reply-To: <20051012153633.58677.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 12, 2005 08:36:33 AM
Message-ID: <20051012220226.52026.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I HAVE REJECTED THE WORDS: ENVIRONMENT,
> AND ENVIRONMENTALISM.
Reject the words, and you can't communicate with people about them.
> IT IS HAVING A CLEAN ATMOSPHERE; HAVING A
> CLEAN ECOLOGY; HAVING THE HIDDEN - REPRESSED
> SUSTAINABLE ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE ENERGY
> TECHNOLOGIES MADE MASS PRODUCED AND
Eco-logy is just the study of how the environment behaves. It is
not anything else.
> AVAILABLE: FOR AUTOMOTIVE, FOR RESIDENTIAL,
> AND FOR (SMALL) BUSINESS THAT MANY OF US
> ACROSS AMERICA AND AROUND THE GLOBE SO
> DESPERATELY NEED; THE DRASTIC MAJOR MORAL
> REVIVAL OF AMERICA THAT IS MANDATORY FOR OUR
> SURVIVAL AS WELL; AND THE MAJOR HEALTH
> CARE REFORM THAT WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA
> AND THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS ENTIRE
> PLANET SO DESPERATELY NEED.
A Moral revival will just create more populution, as the folks, high
on religion, take no precautions. God is responsible for them, as they
sure aren't responsible for themselves!
>
> NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE PLANET;
> WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR MINDS, OUR HEARTS,
> AND OUR BODIES, EQUALLY AS WELL; WITH ZERO
> EXCEPTIONS..!
Who decides? Whp's the authority? Who's army will enforce this?
Who's army will shoot the punk rockers, rap artists, kabunky box hiccup
car owners, etc,.???
And when that happens, what's with freedom? Even worse, what will
the Fear cause to our economy???
\ Not a good solution, I'm afraid.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 18:34:26 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 18:34:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051003.230721.23456.43847@webmail15.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 04, 2005 06:07:17 AM
Message-ID: <20051013013426.39444.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> I've discovered that it's possible to build a geodesic dome based upon
a square and a pentagon, rather than the usual pentagon and hexagon.
The dome can be constructed by crossing two popsicle sticks (from
...
technique, you can cut a sheet of plywood into 1 1/4" strips, which will
give you enough strips to build a dome which is more than 8' in each
direction. Then, when you add an airtight cover, you'll have an
inexpensice space ship hull which only weighs about as much as a sheet
of plywood, plus the cover. The interior deck will be the only part
which has to have s > tructural strength.
While this might work for compressive loading, dealing with tensile
loading due to forces from within (e.g. air pressure in vacuum) is
considerably more difficult. I'd not trust plywood for that.
In addition, we do have some amount of debris in space, thanks to
our having shot off a lot of rockets in the past with little regard for
waste. (Is that Hasselblad some astronaut lost still in orbit?)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 18:37:33 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 18:37:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) POTENTIAL MARKETS.
In-Reply-To: <20051004153301.97307.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 04, 2005 08:33:01 AM
Message-ID: <20051013013733.40730.qmail@mall-net.com>
> POTENTIAL MARKETS:
Ok, now what are the competitors used in each of these markets?
What are the price ranges and modes for each? What features do these
market seem to appreciate?
Yes, you need to study these things if you are to have a chance of
competing.
> TALKING CLOCK BEACONS FOR:
>
> 1. LOW POWER MARINE AND MARINA BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS.
> 2. AMATEUR RADIO.
> 4. N.A.S.A. (NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION).
> 5. N.I.S.T. (NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY).
> 6. N.O.A.A. (NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION).
> 7. COAST GUARD LOW POWER BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS.
> 8. WEATHER STATIONS.
> 9. HOSPITAL INSTITUTIONS.
> 10. SECURITY GUARD POSTS, AND STATIONS.
> 11. AIRPORTS.
> 12. BUS DEPOTS.
> 13. TRAIN STATION-DEPOTS.
> 14. EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
> 15. THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY.
> 16. THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Wed Oct 12 20:17:25 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 20:18:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
Message-ID: <20051012.201822.13694.125358@webmail23.lax.untd.com>
Around 1934, Tesla announced that he had devised a way to harness cosmic rays to power a motive device. (Hence, the Pierce Arrow automobile urban legend.) This is probably the kinetic energy he had referred to. However, other forms of energy, such as Dark Field energy and quasistatic energy, also permeate space and can in fact be harnessed. But the most profound sources of alternate energy relate to the Zero Point Energy fluxuations, which are unimaginably energetic. -JV
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 20:25:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
Message-ID: <20051012.202439.13694.125415@webmail23.lax.untd.com>
In my opinion, the Doctors of the Future will use Rife Frequencies and other forms of Radiesthesia to eliminate all forms of micro organisms which cause disease, even when these 'invaders' are in the cells. This proven technology can be extrapolated to even dissociate poisons and toxins. -JV
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Wed Oct 12 20:31:55 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 20:32:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
Message-ID: <20051012.203231.13694.125510@webmail23.lax.untd.com>
Keep in mind that the Lunar Landing Module was only a frame covered with aluminum foil. If that can hold in the pressure, surely a rubberised canvas stretched over a plywood strip dome will also function adequately. As for the debris, this is a real hazzard, and I intend to set aside a portion of my commercial revenue (if any) to deal with this situation. -JV (www.spaceoffice.us)
Still Alive At 55
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> I've discovered that it's possible to build a geodesic dome based upon
a square and a pentagon, rather than the usual pentagon and hexagon.
The dome can be constructed by crossing two popsicle sticks (from
...
technique, you can cut a sheet of plywood into 1 1/4" strips, which will
give you enough strips to build a dome which is more than 8' in each
direction. Then, when you add an airtight cover, you'll have an
inexpensice space ship hull which only weighs about as much as a sheet
of plywood, plus the cover. The interior deck will be the only part
which has to have s > tructural strength.
While this might work for compressive loading, dealing with tensile
loading due to forces from within (e.g. air pressure in vacuum) is
considerably more difficult. I'd not trust plywood for that.
In addition, we do have some amount of debris in space, thanks to
our having shot off a lot of rockets in the past with little regard for
waste. (Is that Hasselblad some astronaut lost still in orbit?)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 20:47:53 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 20:47:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051012.203231.13694.125510@webmail23.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 13, 2005 03:31:55 AM
Message-ID: <20051013034753.11943.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Keep in mind that the Lunar Landing Module was only a frame covered
> with aluminum foil. If that can hold in the pressure, surely a
> rubberised canvas stretched over a plywood strip dome will also
> function adequately. As for the debris, this is a real hazzard, and I
> intend to set aside a portion of my commercial revenue (if any) to
> deal with this situation. -JV (www.spaceoffice.us) > Still Alive At 55
Having stood in one of the landers (12 or 13) in my teens when it
was being built (some industry tour my father and a neighbor took me to,
probably in Bethpage, NY.), and the one in the National Air and Space
Museum decades later, I can say it is more than just "aluminum foil" by
a long shot.
But even aluminum foil is pretty darned strong in tensile
mode compared to plywood strips and glue!
Also, they had reduced pressure in that thing when it was
pressurized.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 20:50:27 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 20:50:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
In-Reply-To: <20051012.202439.13694.125415@webmail23.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 13, 2005 03:23:43 AM
Message-ID: <20051013035027.13700.qmail@mall-net.com>
> In my opinion, the Doctors of the Future will use Rife Frequencies and
other forms of Radiesthesia to eliminate all forms of micro organisms
which cause disease, even when these 'invaders' are in the cells. This
proven technology can be extrapolated to even dissociate poisons and
toxins. -JV
We'd probably have to outlaw the FDA and AMA first!
The thought of such resonant energy mechanisms is quite
interesting! Sad we never really looked to see how effective this might
be, and whether it resonates other things as well, causing some harm.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 21:34:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 21:35:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INSTITUTE OF HEALTH SCIENCES.
Message-ID: <20051013043451.63732.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
INSTITUTE OF HEALTH SCIENCES:
http://www.hsibaltimore.com/
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Wed Oct 12 22:48:14 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 22:48:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
Message-ID: <20051012.224821.4172.178986@webmail28.lax.untd.com>
You missed my point; the wood strips only form the shape. The canvas, etc. will contain the pressure. Or use Mylar. Or alluminum foil. -JV
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Keep in mind that the Lunar Landing Module was only a frame covered
> with aluminum foil. If that can hold in the pressure, surely a
> rubberised canvas stretched over a plywood strip dome will also
> function adequately. As for the debris, this is a real hazzard, and I
> intend to set aside a portion of my commercial revenue (if any) to
> deal with this situation. -JV (www.spaceoffice.us) > Still Alive At 55
Having stood in one of the landers (12 or 13) in my teens when it
was being built (some industry tour my father and a neighbor took me to,
probably in Bethpage, NY.), and the one in the National Air and Space
Museum decades later, I can say it is more than just "aluminum foil" by
a long shot.
But even aluminum foil is pretty darned strong in tensile
mode compared to plywood strips and glue!
Also, they had reduced pressure in that thing when it was
pressurized.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Wed Oct 12 22:52:07 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 22:53:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOCTORS OF THE FUTURE....
Message-ID: <20051012.225224.4172.178996@webmail28.lax.untd.com>
As I understand it, the Rife system was proven to work. There's quite a bit about it on KeelyNet. The nature of resonance being as it is, it's unlikely to affect anything except something with a specific size and shape. -JV
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> In my opinion, the Doctors of the Future will use Rife Frequencies and
other forms of Radiesthesia to eliminate all forms of micro organisms
which cause disease, even when these 'invaders' are in the cells. This
proven technology can be extrapolated to even dissociate poisons and
toxins. -JV
We'd probably have to outlaw the FDA and AMA first!
The thought of such resonant energy mechanisms is quite
interesting! Sad we never really looked to see how effective this might
be, and whether it resonates other things as well, causing some harm.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 23:16:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 23:17:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Independent World Television.
In-Reply-To: <20051012012111.85457.qmail@web52807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051013061641.89154.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
INDEPENDENT WORLD TELEVISION WEBLINK TO SHARE
WITH EVERYONE, THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME, BY A
FRIEND.
CLYDE
wrote:
Finally, a bunch of media activists have banded together and have
created an independently funded and produced news channel called
Independent World Television or IWT News.
Check out their 5 minute promotional video here:
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/inbrief
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 12 23:20:19 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 23:20:26 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051012.224821.4172.178986@webmail28.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 13, 2005 05:48:14 AM
Message-ID: <20051013062019.92402.qmail@mall-net.com>
> You missed my point; the wood strips only form the shape. The canvas,
etc. will contain the pressure. Or use Mylar. Or alluminum foil. -JV
Having seen glass implode from atmospheric pressure, I'd not trust
something flimsy as, ah canvas or mylar. You're talking about 14.7 psi.
That's OVER a TON per square foot. Even if you derate it to the
partial pressure of oxygen, it's still a LOT of force on all the
joints! How big was your spaceship? What's the tensile loading on the
plywood joints???
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 23:21:59 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 12 23:22:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANOTHER GOOD WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NELUMBO
LOTUS, TO SHARE.
Message-ID: <20051013062159.57053.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
ANOTHER GOOD WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NELUMBO LOTUS, TO SHARE:
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Oct 12 23:59:00 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Wed Oct 12 23:59:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The economic reality of medical paradigm change
Message-ID: <006501c5cfc3$9764b8a0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Presently, something like 25% of the US GDP is from medical care. (Bob,
correct me if I'm wrong)
So let's assume that a revolutionary advance is made in health care, making
all, or the majority, of previous medical science obsolete.
What happens?
A fourth of the US GDP vanishes! All health care corporations go bankrupt.
The stock market crashes. Medicare and Medicaid are useless. Health
insurers lose all their premium revenue. Pharma companies go bankrupt,
their stockholders losing their investments. Same with investors in
underwriters. Same with investors in every other health care company. The
entire economy falls into a depression that makes the 1930's seem like
prosperity. The world economy fails. Dictators rise to power. Wars break
out over the limited economy left. Those rich fatcats that made $billions
on health care jump from windows twenty stories high.
Does ANYONE think that this will be allowed to happen?
The genius that makes this discovery will be disappeared in the dead of
night first- there is too much money at stake here. Our very society and
civilization is at stake! Illness and death are profitable business, and
this business is simply too vital to society, and economy, for it to ever
end.
One way or another, life is a death sentence. Accept this.
-MB
From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 00:28:18 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 00:28:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The economic reality of medical paradigm change
In-Reply-To: <006501c5cfc3$9764b8a0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
13, 2005 02:59:00 AM
Message-ID: <20051013072818.27970.qmail@mall-net.com>
> One way or another, life is a death sentence. Accept this.
And if one eliminates poverty, only the rich will be poor.
> Presently, something like 25% of the US GDP is from medical care. (Bob,
> correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> So let's assume that a revolutionary advance is made in health care, making
> all, or the majority, of previous medical science obsolete.
Oh oh...
More doctors leaped out of windows after the elimination of
Tuberculosis, than stock brokers during the Great Depression.
> A fourth of the US GDP vanishes! All health care corporations go bankrupt.
> The stock market crashes. Medicare and Medicaid are useless. Health
And what, pray tell, could possibly have this power?
Zinc, vitamin C, and magnesium. Toss in some Lysine for good
measure to cure those with hardening of the arteries. (Might help those
with hardening of the heads, too.)
Most of us are deficient in Zinc, which aids healing; and vitamin
C, which help build collagen, that stuff that holds us together, as
well as boost immune function.
Magnesium is also good for the heart and bones -- osteoporosis is
more a lack of magnesium than calcium. Not to mention constipation,
another billion dollar industry based upon pure ignorance. If you need
it, you are probably both C and Mg deficient by a LARGE margin.
These four, taken together, have the potential of eliminating most
heart disease, osteoporosis, many cases of flu, common colds, etc.
> underwriters. Same with investors in every other health care company. The
> entire economy falls into a depression that makes the 1930's seem like
> prosperity. The world economy fails. Dictators rise to power. Wars break
> out over the limited economy left. Those rich fatcats that made $billions
> on health care jump from windows twenty stories high.
I think dictators are not a function of health. healthy people
don't put up with crap.
> Does ANYONE think that this will be allowed to happen?
Sure. Governments don't care. Meanwhile, the pharma get a little
whacked out, hire the wrong people (are assassins dependable?) and big
congressional brewhaha ensnares.
> The genius that makes this discovery will be disappeared in the dead of
> night first- there is too much money at stake here. Our very society and
> civilization is at stake! Illness and death are profitable business, and
> this business is simply too vital to society, and economy, for it to ever
> end.
You can't keep good information down forever. The internet is THE
NUMBER ONE GREATEST THREAT to any organization based on secret
knowledge THAT EVER WAS!!!
Those organizations include:
The pharmaceuticals industry
The Vatican
The United Nations
Moronsloth
Iran
China
etc.
Information is slowly getting out. Today, we can search Google for
anything we desire, from sex to sarcasm, Activation energies to
Zymostic brews. Even password files.
More and more people are turning to orthomolecular medicine, open
source natural medicine. Pharma is still fighting; but they are slowly
realizing that they need to do things besides just treat symptoms.
And more people should get enough sleep. like me... Do you realize
that typoes and other nonsequetors are related to a lack of sleep? I
qualify!
If the world ends tonight, don't bother waking me to let me know.
Thought for the day: If we eliminate poverty, only the wealthy will be
poor.
And if you compare the poor of this nation to the kings of the
1500's, our poor are richer.
Remember, only you can create wealth.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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Chem / Fungus allergies
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 07:05:55 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 07:06:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANOTHER GOOD WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NELUMBO
LOTUS, TO SHARE.
In-Reply-To: <20051013062159.57053.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051013140556.89607.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
WELL, I'VE TRIED AND TRIED TO ACCESS THIS SITE, VIA
THE WEBLINK BELOW, AND ALL THAT I GET IS A GOD
DAMNED SPAM POP UP ON THE SCREEN.
THE WEBSITE ITSELF IS A GOOD WEBSITE, BUT IF IT IS
BLOCKED BY THAT SENSELESS SPAM SHIT, THEN TO
HELL WITH IT..!
FRUSTRATED;
CLYDE
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
ANOTHER GOOD WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NELUMBO LOTUS, TO SHARE:
http://waynesworld.palomar.edu/ecoph32.htm
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 08:19:32 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 08:19:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ANOTHER GOOD WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NELUMBO
In-Reply-To: <20051013140556.89607.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 13, 2005 07:05:55 AM
Message-ID: <20051013151932.83685.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WELL, I'VE TRIED AND TRIED TO ACCESS THIS SITE, VIA
> THE WEBLINK BELOW, AND ALL THAT I GET IS A GOD
> DAMNED SPAM POP UP ON THE SCREEN.
Turn off Javascript and Java. Go to tools or preferences or
something on your browser, look at the options, find scripts, turn off
Java and Javascript, as well as ASP and other crap.
(Latest thing is to steal the contents of your paste-buffer using
Java. Some people cut and paste passwords, account information, etc.)
When researching strange sites that turn up on some of our (input,
request, etc.) lists, I usually go out with a text-only browser. Heck,
I've even been known to telnet to port 80 to see what's really going on
with some sites.
> THE WEBSITE ITSELF IS A GOOD WEBSITE, BUT IF IT IS
> BLOCKED BY THAT SENSELESS SPAM SHIT, THEN TO
> HELL WITH IT..!
That's what I say. 99% of all scripting is uncalled for, harms
search engine ranking, and reduces customer appeal.
Yes, it can be done right, can enhance appeal, and can avoid
harming ranking. But 99.9% of all webmasters are too wrapped up in
their ego to bother learning such things. Fundamentally, they don't
take real interest in their profession or their honing skills. I've seen
too many ego driven webmasters pandering to the ego market, and totally
ignoring the effects on visitor traffic and sales. Heck, we've had to
fight battles over traffic statistics in some companies -- the
webmasters didn't want us to be able to see them! And these were not
small stupid companies!!!
But then, most people don't want to think.
-javilk- mall-net.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 13:55:39 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 13:55:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051012.201822.13694.125358@webmail23.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051013205539.5427.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
< thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
Around 1934, Tesla announced that he had devised a way to harness
cosmic rays to power a motive device. (Hence, the Pierce Arrow automobile
urban legend.)
I'VE READ ABOUT THE PIERCE ARROW CAR BEING ELECTRICALLY
POWERED, AND DERIVING ITS ENERGY FROM THE ETHER, BY A BOX
WHICH ONLY TESLA WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHAT ITS CONTENTS
WERE.
BUT THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE READ ON IT.
This is probably the kinetic energy he had referred to.
HMMM....
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY HIGH SPEED HERMETICALLY SEALED,
CARBON FLYWHEELS WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE BACK THEN,
AND SO IF THE ENERGY WAS KINETIC; I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE
HE COULD HAVE REFERRED TO, EXCEPT ELECTROMAGNETIC
GENERATION OF ELECTRICAL POWER, OR OTHER, USING ONLY
VACUUM ENERGY ALONE....
However, other forms of energy, such as Dark Field energy and quasistatic
energy, also permeate space and can in fact be harnessed.
I HAVE A MENTAL CONCEPT OF DARK FIELD ENERGY;
SIMPLY THE EXISTANCE OF THE UNSEEN ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE
WHICH FLOWS WITHOUT LIGHT, THROUGH OUR CONVENTIONAL
ELECTRICAL POWER WIRES AND WIRING SYSTEMS; WHICH IN TURN
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE LIGHT AT BOTH HIGHER
IMPEDENCES - (IN THE CASE OF INCANDESCENT BULBS AND ELECTRIC
HEATERS; AND AT HIGHER VOLTAGES - (IN THE CASE OF ELECTRIC
ARCS, LIGHT-NING, AND HIGH VOLTAGE LIGHT-ING; [HYPHENS ADDED FOR
CLARITY BETWEEN THE WORDS; LIGHTNING AND LIGHTING]).
But the most profound sources of alternate energy relate to the Zero Point
Energy fluxuations, which are unimaginably energetic.
YEAH; THE ZERO POINT (DARK LIGHT [METAPHYSICAL TERM]) VACUUM
ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS IN THIS SHITHOLE SLUM TOWN OF TULSA
OKLAHOMA ARE SEVERELY STRESSING ME OUT.
AS MUCH GOOD AS THIS SHITTY HAS, IT HAS AN EXACT EQUIVALENT
OF AN EVIL - CORRUPT AS ALL HELL, DARK SIDE TO IT AS WELL.
AS PUBLISHED, IN A NEWS ARTICLE WEBLINK THAT I POSTED TO THE
MADSCI LIST IN THE PAST; ACCORDING TO STATISTICS; TULSA IS THE
HIGHEST CRIME SHITTY, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SHITHOLE FOREVER GO
NOWHERE WASTELAND STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
INTERESTINGLY AND IRONICALLY; BROKEN ARROW; A TULSA SUBURN
TOWN - DIRECTLY TO TULSA'S EAST, IS SAID TO BE THE LOWEST CRIME
TOWN IN OKLAHOMA.
DOWNSLUM TULSA IS BUILT ON A FINANCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND
ECOLOGICAL SINKHOLE OF QUICKSAND, AT THE EDGE OF THE SANDY
PORTIONS OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER.
THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED; FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST; INDUSTRIAL
SLUM TOWN OF TULSA.
THIS WASTELAND SHOULD BE RE-NICKNAMED: S-TOWN, FOR SLUM TOWN;
INSTEAD OF T-TOWN, FOR TULSA TOWN.
I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION IN THE PAST, THAT THE PART OF TULSA
THAT I LIVE IN IS NOW UNDER THE KOMMUNIST DICTATORSHIT OF THE
UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT, IN THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD; ENDLESSLY
OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
THIS PART OF TULSA WAS ONCE A SMALL BLACK COMMUNITY, NAMED
ALSUMA.
IT IS NOW JUST AN INDUSTRIAL SLUM, WHERE PROGRESS IS A FOREVER
NO GO FOR MOST INDEPENDENT BUSINESS MINDED PEOPLE LIKE
MYSELF.
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
-JV
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
THROUGHOUT SPACE THERE IS ENERGY.
IS THIS ENERGY STATIC, OR KINETIC?
IF STATIC, OUR HOPES ARE IN VAIN.
IF KINETIC; AND THIS WE KNOW IT IS
FOR CERTAIN; THEN IT IS A MERE
QUESTION OF TIME WHEN MEN WILL
SUCCEED IN ATTACHING THEIR
MACHINERY TO THE VERY WHEELWORK
OF NATURE.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 16:34:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IRIDOLOGY WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20051013233447.1317.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
IRIDOLOGY WEBLINKS:
1. http://www.healingfeats.com/iridolog.htm
2. http://www.medicomm.net/Consumer%20Site/am/iridology.htm
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridology
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 16:55:29 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A VEGAN FUTURE IS NEARER THAN WE THINK.
Message-ID: <20051013235521.38795.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
A VEGAN FUTURE IS NEARER THAN WE THINK:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 16:56:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A VEGAN WORLD IS NEARER THAN WE THINK.
Message-ID: <20051013235646.43001.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
A VEGAN WORLD IS NEARER THAN WE THINK:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 17:00:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WORD ERROR ON ORIGINAL SEND....
Message-ID: <20051014000000.7724.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
MY APOLOGY FOR THE WORD ERROR IN THE TITLE
IN THE ORIGINAL SENDING OF THIS POSTING.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 17:06:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: SORRY; I STILL SCREWED THE OFFICIAL TITLE UP.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 17:50:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A VEGAN WORLD IS NEARER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE.
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A VEGAN WORLD IS NEARER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 17:59:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
Message-ID: <20051014005853.30279.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW,
AND MY ABILITY TO THINK PERFECTLY STRAIGHT
HAS BEEN SCREWED UP BY THE PRESKRIPTION
DRUG KOMMMERCIALISM, OF PHARMAKOLOGY.
I HAVE NEARLY HAD ALL THAT I CAN TAKE, FROM
CONVENTION 'MEDICINE'.
MY BRAIN IS AT THE EDGE OF BROKEN, AND MY
HEART IS BROKEN.
HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND THIS HOUSE
IS NOT A HOME.
I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH, AND IT FEELS LIKE I
AM DIGESTING MY HEART IN MY STOMACH AT
TIMES, FROM IT SINKING SO LOW.
POVERTY IS EVIDENTLY PERPETUAL FOR FOLKS
LIKE ME.
ETC....
HURTING BADLY; BUT HANGIN' IN
THERE; AND ENDURING; CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 18:17:12 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 18:17:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014005853.30279.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 13, 2005 05:58:53 PM
Message-ID: <20051014011712.26229.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW,
> AND MY ABILITY TO THINK PERFECTLY STRAIGHT
> HAS BEEN SCREWED UP BY THE PRESKRIPTION
> DRUG KOMMMERCIALISM, OF PHARMAKOLOGY.
> I HAVE NEARLY HAD ALL THAT I CAN TAKE, FROM
> CONVENTION 'MEDICINE'.
> MY BRAIN IS AT THE EDGE OF BROKEN, AND MY
> HEART IS BROKEN.
> HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND THIS HOUSE
> IS NOT A HOME.
> I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH, AND IT FEELS LIKE I
> AM DIGESTING MY HEART IN MY STOMACH AT
> TIMES, FROM IT SINKING SO LOW.
Without some idea of urine pH, I can't tell if you are just nervous,
overly acidic, or what.
Usually, when it gets bad for me I take a gram of niacin and 5 grams
of C. But you say some of these tend to interfere eith your other
medications, so caution is advised.
> POVERTY IS EVIDENTLY PERPETUAL FOR FOLKS
> LIKE ME.
Not necessarily so. If you believe you can improve, you will. Easy
to say; but a bit harder to do, Though not impossible. It is the
thought that things are impossible, which makes them so!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 19:49:17 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 13 19:49:29 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014011712.26229.qmail@mall-net.com>
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW,
> AND MY ABILITY TO THINK PERFECTLY STRAIGHT
> HAS BEEN SCREWED UP BY THE PRESKRIPTION
> DRUG KOMMMERCIALISM, OF PHARMAKOLOGY.
> I HAVE NEARLY HAD ALL THAT I CAN TAKE, FROM
> CONVENTION 'MEDICINE'.
> MY BRAIN IS AT THE EDGE OF BROKEN, AND MY
> HEART IS BROKEN.
> HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND THIS HOUSE
> IS NOT A HOME.
> I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH, AND IT FEELS LIKE I
> AM DIGESTING MY HEART IN MY STOMACH AT
> TIMES, FROM IT SINKING SO LOW.
Without some idea of urine pH, I can't tell if you are just nervous,
overly acidic, or what.
I HAD AN IRIDOLOGY TEST DONE THE OTHER DAY, AND FOUND OUT
SOME VERY INTERESTING RESULTS.
WHILE THOSE MAINSTREAM - ASSHOLE DOCTORS OUT THERE AND CERTAIN
OTHERS DISMISS IRIDOLOGY AS QUACKERY; IT HAS PROVIDED ME WITH
SOME ANSWERS THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER FOUND OUT OTHERWISE, UNDER
THE KURSED KORRUPT KOMMERCIALISM OF PHARMAKOLOGY DICKTATORSHIT.
MY BODY IS FAR FAR TOO ACIDIC.
I DO NOT RECALL, SINCE I DID NOT TAKE NOTES DURING THE TEST, IF I WAS
TOLD IF IT IS MY LIVER THAT IS SCARRED, OR THAT IF IT JUST THAT IT HAS
BLOCKAGE, OR IF IT IS MY LUNGS THAT ARE SCARRED; BUT IT IS ONE OR
BOTH OF THE TWO; OR PERHAPS ARTERIAL DAMAGE, DUE TO SO MUCH HYPERTENSION IN MY LIFE.
THE PNEUMONIA IN MY CHILDHOOD HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
THE EXPERIMENTATION WITH SMOKING OF MARIJUANA HAS PERMANENTLY
EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
THE VALPROIC ACID HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND IS QUITE POSSIBLY ON THE
VERGE OF FAILURE.
CONSTIPATION IN MY BOWELS HAS BEEN HIGH LATELY, DUE TO MY ULTRA
ULTRA LONG SUFFERING CONSERVATIVE USEAGE OF CLONAZEPAM.
THE OVER CLORINATION OF THE CRAP WATER IS FAR TOO MUCH.
THE CRAP WATER HAS FAR TOO MUCH TOXICITY IN IT; ETC....
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO START DRINKING DISTILLED WATER.
Usually, when it gets bad for me I take a gram of niacin and 5 grams
of C. But you say some of these tend to interfere either your other
medications,
I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED FOR THE TERMINOLOGIES OF MEDICATION, AND
MEDICINE.
THE TWO WORDS HAVE BECOME EVIL, TO ME.
I FEEL LIKE BLASTING THE FUCKING MEDIKAL ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE HARM
THAT THEY HAVE CAUSED ME AND OTHERS.
so caution is advised.
YES; THANKS FOR THE ADVISED CAUTION;
SHORTLY AFTER I SENT THE E-MAIL; I TOOK AN EMERGENCY TRIP TO THE
LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE AND PURCHASED GABA CALM SUBLINGUAL;
INGREDIENTS: SORBITOL, MANNITOL, NATURAL ORANGE FLAVOR, MODIFIED
CELLULOSE GUM, STEARIC ACID, MAGNESIUM STEARATE, MAGNESIUM
TAURINATE, N-ACETAL L-TYROSINE, GLYCINE, GABA; GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC
ACID, AND A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: 1 GRAM;
AND CHELATED MAGNESIUM: 250 mG's, IN A SEPERATE BOTTLE.
I STILL NEED TO PURCHASE SOME SOUR ALKALINE TABLETS SOMEWHERE;
IF SUCH IS AVAILABLE, TO REDUCE MY BODY ACIDITY OVERKILL CONTENT,
AND ALSO STILL NEED TO PURCHASE DISTILLED WATER.
> POVERTY IS EVIDENTLY PERPETUAL FOR FOLKS
> LIKE ME.
Not necessarily so. If you believe you can improve, you will.
YES; I DO BELIEVE THAT I CAN IMPROVE.
IT IS MY WILL TO IMPROVE.
Easy to say; but a bit harder to do, Though not impossible. It is the
thought that things are impossible, which makes them so!
YES!
I FEEL MUCH BETTER NOW, AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM.
I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT AT
AROUND 15 TO 16 HZ. SEEMS TO INCREASE MY SHALLOW BREATHING, AND
SO THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE EVIDENTLY NOT GOOD FOR MY USEAGE.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Thu Oct 13 20:18:19 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 20:20:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
Message-ID: <20051013.201843.28675.194286@webmail04.lax.untd.com>
The guy who owns Budget Suites of America has a new venture called Bigelow Aerospace. He has a small inflateable space station which NASA is scheduled to launch early next year. Maybe I should start talking about a Kevlar skin? -JV
see: Bigelowaerospace.com
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> You missed my point; the wood strips only form the shape. The canvas,
etc. will contain the pressure. Or use Mylar. Or alluminum foil. -JV
Having seen glass implode from atmospheric pressure, I'd not trust
something flimsy as, ah canvas or mylar. You're talking about 14.7 psi.
That's OVER a TON per square foot. Even if you derate it to the
partial pressure of oxygen, it's still a LOT of force on all the
joints! How big was your spaceship? What's the tensile loading on the
plywood joints???
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 21:00:04 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 21:00:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051013.201843.28675.194286@webmail04.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 14, 2005 03:18:19 AM
Message-ID: <20051014040004.2113.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> The guy who owns Budget Suites of America has a new venture called Bigelow Aerospace. He has a small inflateable space station which NASA is scheduled to launch early next year. Maybe I should start talking about a Kevlar skin? -JV
Kevlar is tough, and if made thick enough, it might hold. But, the
first loose nut that hits the thing is going to result in a major leak.
if he can handle it, then all will be fine. But I won't go there!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 21:20:23 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 21:20:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014024918.7710.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 13, 2005 07:49:17 PM
Message-ID: <20051014042023.14686.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Without some idea of urine pH, I can't tell if you are just nervous,
> overly acidic, or what.
> MY BODY IS FAR FAR TOO ACIDIC.
> I DO NOT RECALL, SINCE I DID NOT TAKE NOTES DURING THE TEST, IF I WAS
> TOLD IF IT IS MY LIVER THAT IS SCARRED, OR THAT IF IT JUST THAT IT HAS
> BLOCKAGE, OR IF IT IS MY LUNGS THAT ARE SCARRED; BUT IT IS ONE OR
> BOTH OF THE TWO; OR PERHAPS ARTERIAL DAMAGE, DUE TO SO MUCH HYPERTENSION IN MY LIFE.
> THE PNEUMONIA IN MY CHILDHOOD HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
> THE EXPERIMENTATION WITH SMOKING OF MARIJUANA HAS PERMANENTLY
> EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
Iridology is a tertiary, longer term measurement. Something
affects something else, which accumulates as -pigments in the iris,
maybe. It's one of those statistical things.
You need something which is a shorter term and more direct
measurement, like urine pH. that's still secondary, as it relies on the
body dumping something as it tries to balance.
> THE VALPROIC ACID HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
How so? Acid will make you breathe faster and deeper.
> MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND IS QUITE POSSIBLY ON THE
> VERGE OF FAILURE.
How do you know? Iridology, or pain? If pain, is it the side you
sleep on the most? That can reduce flow, prompting sediment formation.
Though most kidney stones are now thought to be nano-bacteria creating
shells. Vitamin C seems to inhibit that when taken in high enough
doses.
> CONSTIPATION IN MY BOWELS HAS BEEN HIGH LATELY, DUE TO MY ULTRA
> ULTRA LONG SUFFERING CONSERVATIVE USEAGE OF CLONAZEPAM.
> THE OVER CLORINATION OF THE CRAP WATER IS FAR TOO MUCH.
> THE CRAP WATER HAS FAR TOO MUCH TOXICITY IN IT; ETC....
> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO START DRINKING DISTILLED WATER.
Ok. Magnesium will both reduce the acidity, and improve the BM's.
> Usually, when it gets bad for me I take a gram of niacin and 5 grams
> of C. But you say some of these tend to interfere either your other
> medications,
>
> so caution is advised.
>
> YES; THANKS FOR THE ADVISED CAUTION;
> SHORTLY AFTER I SENT THE E-MAIL; I TOOK AN EMERGENCY TRIP TO THE
> LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE AND PURCHASED GABA CALM SUBLINGUAL;
> INGREDIENTS: SORBITOL, MANNITOL, NATURAL ORANGE FLAVOR, MODIFIED
> CELLULOSE GUM, STEARIC ACID,
So far, sugar and spice, and nothing nice.
>... MAGNESIUM STEARATE, MAGNESIUM TAURINATE,
Magnesium! Taurine is also recommended for some types of neural
problems.
> N-ACETAL L-TYROSINE, GLYCINE, GABA; GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC
> ACID, AND A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: 1 GRAM;
Tyrosine goes to dopamine, GABA is another... You can look them up.
> AND CHELATED MAGNESIUM: 250 mG's, IN A SEPERATE BOTTLE.
>
> I STILL NEED TO PURCHASE SOME SOUR ALKALINE TABLETS SOMEWHERE;
> IF SUCH IS AVAILABLE, TO REDUCE MY BODY ACIDITY OVERKILL CONTENT,
> AND ALSO STILL NEED TO PURCHASE DISTILLED WATER.
Measure your urine pH. The real deal, not some tertiary long term
guess.
> Not necessarily so. If you believe you can improve, you will.
>
> YES; I DO BELIEVE THAT I CAN IMPROVE.
> IT IS MY WILL TO IMPROVE.
Good!
> Easy to say; but a bit harder to do, Though not impossible. It is the
> thought that things are impossible, which makes them so!
>
> YES!
>
> I FEEL MUCH BETTER NOW, AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM.
>
> I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT AT
> AROUND 15 TO 16 HZ. SEEMS TO INCREASE MY SHALLOW BREATHING, AND
> SO THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE EVIDENTLY NOT GOOD FOR MY USEAGE.
Yes, that's where the brain starts getting in gear to think; but
has nothing to think on unless you are thinking about something
specific.
Tired, long day. Still moving crap from the old place to the new.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 21:57:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
Message-ID: <20051013.215606.16039.143457@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
I guess we'd better get busy and invent a Force Field.
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> The guy who owns Budget Suites of America has a new venture called Bigelow Aerospace. He has a small inflateable space station which NASA is scheduled to launch early next year. Maybe I should start talking about a Kevlar skin? -JV
Kevlar is tough, and if made thick enough, it might hold. But, the
first loose nut that hits the thing is going to result in a major leak.
if he can handle it, then all will be fine. But I won't go there!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Thu Oct 13 22:10:52 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 22:12:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A VEGAN WORLD IS NEARER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE.
Message-ID: <20051013.221141.16039.143561@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
I've been a vegitarian since '62; I eat diary products and eggs, but no kind of meat or fish. Hope it catches on. I'm healthier than most. -JV
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 22:30:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
Message-ID: <20051013.222906.16039.143640@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
I've put a picture of Dark Energy online at:
www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts/artifacts.htm
Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light and Radiant Energy.
Just a little Mad Scientist set-up.
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From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 22:39:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Independent World Television.
Message-ID: <20051013.223817.16039.143660@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
This is a welcome development. I'm so sick of local and national news. They all have the same basic minimalistic format. Sometimes I'll watch the hispanic news channel, just to see so many things in so many other countries, even if I can't understand what they're saying.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 13 22:46:28 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 22:46:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051013.222906.16039.143640@webmail27.lax.untd.com> from
"thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Oct 14, 2005 05:29:04 AM
Message-ID: <20051014054628.62464.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the
middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant
Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still
coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light
and Radiant Energy.
What scientific evidence can you produce, I'm talking mainstream
evidence by cosmologists or others, of so-called dark energy?
Yes, I am sceptical. As a scientist, I have to be sceptical.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 05:33:51 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 05:33:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORE....
Message-ID: <20051014123351.66226.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
I FORGOT TO MENTION ALSO, THAT THE IRIDOLOGY
TEST SHOWED THAT I HAVE A YEAST PROBLEM;
I'VE ALWAYS HAD BAD TROUBLE WITH CANKER
SORES, ALL OF THE WAY BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD.
I HAVE ALSO BEEN NEGLECTING MY DENTAL
HEALTH, FOR MATERIAL GAINS IN LIFE.
I HAVE GOT TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO MY
HEALTH, BETTER, BECAUSE MY HEALTH HAS NOW
GONE TO HELL.
I WOKE THIS MORNING WITH THE SAME OLD STRESS.
AND MY BACK HURTS TOO.... I WENT TO THE
CHIROPRACTOR YESTERDAY; BUT MY BACK HURTS
RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE JUST TOO MUCH MONEY WORRIES, AND
INSUFFICIENT MONEY AND OTHER INSUFFICIENT
RESOURCES.
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE INTRUDED INTO MY LIFE TOO
FAR, AND IF THEY ARE NOT CAREFUL; THEY WILL
NOT LIKE THE RESULTS OF THEIR TRESPASSES.
I HAVE GOT TO GET ALL OF THE CORRECT MEDICAL
HELP THAT I NEED: SOON..!
THE MEDICAL SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE HAVING A MASS
SCALE FAILURE FOR ALL PEOPLE; TAKING FAR TOO
MUCH MONEY 'FOR THEIR SERVICES', AND NOT GIVING
BACK TO WE THE PEOPLE WHAT WE ALL DESERVE.
IF I COULD AFFORD A LIBERTARIAN LAWYER; I WOULD
BLAST THE AMA, THE FDA, SHRINK FOUNDATIONS,
AND SHRINK INFUCKTUTIONS; BECAUSE I AM SICK OF
IT F'ING GOD DAMNED ALL..!
IF I WAS A TERRORIST; I WOULD NUCLEAR BLAST THE
AMA, THE FDA, SHRINK FOUNDATIONS, AND SHRINK
INFUCKTUTIONS..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 06:09:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 06:09:21 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014042023.14686.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051014130910.82338.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
You need something which is a shorter term and more direct
measurement, like urine pH. that's still secondary, as it relies on the
body dumping something as it tries to balance.
I'VE GOTTA GO THEN BY WALGREENS OR OTHER PHARMACY THIS AFTERNOON, AFTER I GET MY PAYCHECK.
I DON'T REMEBER IF YOU INFORMED ME OF THE APPROXIMATE EXPENSE
OF pH TEST STRIPS.
CAN YOU LET ME KNOW?
OTHERWISE; I WILL MAKE IT A PRIORITY THIS AFTERNOON, TO FIND OUT.
> THE VALPROIC ACID HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
How so? Acid will make you breathe faster and deeper.
THE EXACT OPPOSITE; IT HAS WEAKENED MY AUTOMATIC BREATHING
PROCESS; "'TO LIMIT' PANIC ATTACKS."
IT HAS FUCKED UP MY BREATHING PROCESS, IN COMBINATION WITH
BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS, NOW CAUSED BY CLONAZEPAM.
> MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND IS QUITE POSSIBLY ON THE
> VERGE OF FAILURE.
How do you know? Iridology, or pain?
PAIN..!
PAIN IN MY SIDE(S); PAIN IN MY CARDIOLOGY; BACK PAINS....
If pain, is it the side you sleep on the most?
NO.
JUST PAIN(S)..!
That can reduce flow, prompting sediment formation.
Though most kidney stones are now thought to be nano-bacteria creating
shells. Vitamin C seems to inhibit that when taken in high enough
doses.
OK.
> CONSTIPATION IN MY BOWELS HAS BEEN HIGH LATELY, DUE TO MY ULTRA
> ULTRA LONG SUFFERING CONSERVATIVE USEAGE OF CLONAZEPAM.
> THE OVER CLORINATION OF THE CRAP WATER IS FAR TOO MUCH.
> THE CRAP WATER HAS FAR TOO MUCH TOXICITY IN IT; ETC....
> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO START DRINKING DISTILLED WATER.
Ok. Magnesium will both reduce the acidity, and improve the BM's.
OK.
ALFALFA WAS ALSO SUGESTED LAST NIGHT, AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE,
TO BALANCE MY BODY pH.
I COULD'NT AFFORD THE EXPENSE OF ALFALFA; AND IT WAS JUST ANOTHER
ATTEMPT BY HERBAL-ISM REMEDY THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO TRY.
I WANT TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM, WITH VITAMINS, MINERALS,
DISTILLED WATER, ETC....
I ALSO NEED TO BE GETTING MORE DEEP REST AT NIGHT.
I AM NOT GETTING ENOUGH REST; WHICH I HAVE LEARNED; LOADS OF REST REPAIRS THE BODY BEST! ....
> Usually, when it gets bad for me I take a gram of niacin and 5 grams
> of C. But you say some of these tend to interfere either your other
> medications,
>
> so caution is advised.
>
> YES; THANKS FOR THE ADVISED CAUTION;
> SHORTLY AFTER I SENT THE E-MAIL; I TOOK AN EMERGENCY TRIP TO THE
> LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE AND PURCHASED GABA CALM SUBLINGUAL;
> INGREDIENTS: SORBITOL, MANNITOL, NATURAL ORANGE FLAVOR, MODIFIED
> CELLULOSE GUM, STEARIC ACID,
So far, sugar and spice, and nothing nice.
YES; I WASN'T THINKING OF THAT SAYING, BUT I DEFINATELY KNEW THAT THE INGREDIENTS ARE FULL OF A LOT OF WORTHLESS SHIT, JUST BY
READING THEM....
>... MAGNESIUM STEARATE, MAGNESIUM TAURINATE,
Magnesium! Taurine is also recommended for some types of neural
problems.
OK.... ; I NEED A LOT OF TAURINE THEN....
MUSCLE RELAXATION, WITH ZERO SIDE EFFECTS???
> N-ACETAL L-TYROSINE, GLYCINE, GABA; GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC
> ACID, AND A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: 1 GRAM;
Tyrosine goes to dopamine,
YEAH; AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM; I COULD DEFINATELY TELL THE
EFFECTS OF THE DOPAMINE IN MY CRANIUM.
I RODE MY BIKE FOR A SHORT WHILE, AFTER TAKING THE SUPPLEMENT,
AND WENT TO A PLACE ALONGSIDE A LOCAL CREEK WHERE THERE ARE
MANY LARGE ROCKS, AND ALMOST LOST MY BALANCE AND ALMOST FELL,
DUE TO THE DOPAMINE (SEDATING) EFFECTS, IN MY BRAIN....
GABA is another... You can look them up.
YEAH; I DO NEED TO RESEARCH GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID.
AS I WAS RIDING THE BIKE BACK TO THE HOUSE LAST NIGHT; A FLASH
THOUGHT CAME TO MIND: NUCLEAR NEUROSIS..!
WHETHER NUCLEAR NEUROSIS IS GOING ON WITHIN ME OR NOT; I CAN'T EXACTLY SAY; BUT I AM CERTAINLY STRESSED TO THE POINT TO WHERE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE YOUTH THAT I STILL HAVE WITHIN MYSELF, FOR 'D.N.A.'
'CELLULAR' REGENERATION; I'D PROBABLY BE DEAD OF BOTH HEART DISEASE, AND CANCER-NUCLEAR-METASTASIS....
> AND CHELATED MAGNESIUM: 250 mG's, IN A SEPERATE BOTTLE.
>
> I STILL NEED TO PURCHASE SOME SOUR ALKALINE TABLETS SOMEWHERE;
> IF SUCH IS AVAILABLE, TO REDUCE MY BODY ACIDITY OVERKILL CONTENT,
> AND ALSO STILL NEED TO PURCHASE DISTILLED WATER.
Measure your urine pH. The real deal, not some tertiary long term
guess.
OK; IT IS MY PRIORITY TODAY, TO PURCHASE URINE pH TEST STRIPS, FROM
A LOCAL PHARMACY....
> I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT AT
> AROUND 15 TO 16 HZ. SEEMS TO INCREASE MY SHALLOW BREATHING, AND
> SO THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE EVIDENTLY NOT GOOD FOR MY USEAGE.
Yes, that's where the brain starts getting in gear to think; but has nothing to think
on, unless you are thinking about something specific.
MY MIND IS AS STUBBORN AS BY BRICK WALL BRAINED MOTHER; AND
AND AS SCREWED UP AS MY FATHER; AND SO MY MIND STRONGLY
RESISTS THE EFFECTS OF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FREQUENCY, OR FREQUENCIES THAT YOU
CAN SUGGEST TO TRY?
Tired, long day. Still moving crap from the old place to the new.
OK;
HOPE YOU GET EVERYTHING MOVED ALRIGHT.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 06:25:07 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 06:25:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051013.215606.16039.143457@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051014132507.68606.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
< thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
I WISH I COULD HAVE JOINED IN SOONER, REGARDING
SPACESHIP DESIGN; BUT I HAVE SO MUCH INTERFERENCE IN
MY LIFE; CAUSING ME TO BE SO PREOCCUPIED WITH SO MUCH
ENDLESS NONSENSICAL USELESS AND WORTHLESS SHIT....
I guess we'd better get busy and invent a Force Field.
YES; THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN SEE SUCCESSFULLY STRONG
FORCE FIELDS BEING CREATED, IS BY SOMEHOW USING HIGH
STRENGTH ACOUSTIC ENERGY; BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO
EXACTLY GO ABOUT ACHIEVING THE HIGH FORCE FIELD STRENGTH,
REQUIRED; PERHAPS THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF THE SHIP,
PERFECTLY EVENLY SURFACE COATED WITH THE HIGHEST OF
DECIBEL PRODUCING ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCERS; BUT THERE IS
ANOTHER PROBLEM: NO AUDIBLE SOUND WAVES PROPAGE IN
THE VACUUM OF SPACE, AND SO THE FREQUENCY OUTPUT OF
EACH TRANSDUCER WOULD HAVE TO OPERATE AT ULTRASONIC,
AND / OR HIGHER RANGE, AND HIGHER THAN HELL AMPLITUDE
OUTPUT.
ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS WOULD BE TOO WEAK, TO REPEL
SPACE ROCKS, AND SPACEJUNK.
CLYDE
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> The guy who owns Budget Suites of America has a new venture called Bigelow Aerospace. He has a small inflateable space station which NASA is scheduled to launch early next year. Maybe I should start talking about a Kevlar skin? -JV
Kevlar is tough, and if made thick enough, it might hold. But, the
first loose nut that hits the thing is going to result in a major leak.
if he can handle it, then all will be fine. But I won't go there!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 06:28:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 06:29:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051013.222906.16039.143640@webmail27.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051014132850.86119.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
< thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote:
I've put a picture of Dark Energy online at:
http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/artifacts/artifacts.htm
OK....
Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light and Radiant Energy.
INTERESTING!
I'LL TRY TO LINK TO THE SITE AFTER I SEND THIS REPLY.
Just a little Mad Scientist set-up.
COOL MAN!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 06:37:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 06:37:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051014054628.62464.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051014133729.74836.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the
middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant
Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still
coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light
and Radiant Energy.
IN OTHER WORDS: RADIANT ENERGY: ='S HIGH POWER, LOW
FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC AUDIO RADIO ENERGY..!
E.L.F. RADIATION..!
E.L.F. RADIO-ATION..!
MORE PORTIONS FROM THE GREAT RADIO CONTROVERSY,
BETWEEN: NIKOLA TESLA, ALBERT EINSTEIN, CHARLES
STEINMETZ, EDWIN ARMSTRONG; (ALTHOUGH ARMSTRONG
EXPERIMENTED WITH EARLY FREQUENCY MODULATION
TECHNIQUES); ALSO PHILO FARNSWORTH, AND OTHERS....
What scientific evidence can you produce, I'm talking mainstream
evidence by cosmologists or others, of so-called dark energy?
ELECTROMAGNETIC AUDIO RADIO ENERGY, AT HIGHER THEN
HELL POWER, THROUGHOUT ALL SPACE AND TIME..!
Yes, I am sceptical. As a scientist, I have to be sceptical.
OK.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 07:20:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 07:20:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED AND EXPANDED.
In-Reply-To: <20051014133729.74836.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051014142002.21791.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED AND EXPANDED:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the
middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant
Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still
coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light
and Radiant Energy.
IN OTHER WORDS: RADIANT ENERGY: ='S 'HIGH POWER', LOW
FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC AUDIO RADIO ENERGY..!
E.L.F. RADIATION..!
E.L.F. RADIO-ATION..!
MORE PORTIONS FROM THE GREAT RADIO CONTROVERSY,
BETWEEN: NIKOLA TESLA, ALBERT EINSTEIN, CHARLES
STEINMETZ, EDWIN ARMSTRONG; (ALTHOUGH ARMSTRONG
EXPERIMENTED WITH EARLY FREQUENCY MODULATION
TECHNIQUES); ALSO PHILO FARNSWORTH, AND OTHERS....
What scientific evidence can you produce, I'm talking mainstream
evidence by cosmologists or others, of so-called dark energy?
ELECTROMAGNETIC, AND, ELECTROSTATIC, AUDIO RADIO
ENERGY, AT HIGHER THAN HELL POWER, THROUGHOUT ALL
SPACE AND AND ALL TIME..!
CLYDE
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Fri Oct 14 07:52:45 2005
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Fri Oct 14 07:54:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
Message-ID: <20051014.075311.24134.197740@webmail32.lax.untd.com>
Here's a link which seems to say dark energy has been confirmed by astronomers:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/darkenergy_folo_010410.html
I have a series of 5 poloroids of my set-up, from different angles, etc. One of the pictures shows an unusual black shape in the speaker wires. I've also seen a picture showing how someone made a pure black tesla type spark. I'll be back online tonight. -JV
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Click on the picture for a close-up, then notice the dark spot on the
middle of the curved electrode at the left. It's caused by Radiant
Energy from the electrode interacting head-on with light which is still
coming from the photo flash tube. So Dark Energy is a mixture of light
and Radiant Energy.
What scientific evidence can you produce, I'm talking mainstream
evidence by cosmologists or others, of so-called dark energy?
Yes, I am sceptical. As a scientist, I have to be sceptical.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 14 09:11:48 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 14 09:11:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051014133729.74836.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 14, 2005 06:37:29 AM
Message-ID: <20051014161148.98862.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IN OTHER WORDS: RADIANT ENERGY: ='S HIGH POWER, LOW
>
> FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC AUDIO RADIO ENERGY..!
> E.L.F. RADIATION..!
>
> E.L.F. RADIO-ATION..!
These are things which are known to vibrate atoms and molecules,
and are thus hot forms of energy which w3e can detect. they are
transformable to heat, and heat is transformable to light
(electro-magnetic) energy.
Your audio energy, because it is molecular movement in the air,
transforms to heat, and is thus a form of light energy.
What scientists mean by dark energy is, I believe, energy which
does not couple to mater easily, and hence does not easily transform to
light energy.
That's what is missing from our observations.
One possibility is that it shows up as intrinsic properties, e.g.
gravity, inertia, etc.
The other possibility that we can think of, is that it is
everywhere to the point where we can not detect it because most of our
sensors are differential sensors,, not absolute sensors -- even when we
think they may be absolute sensors.
For example, we think inertia is an absolute; but if ZPG (Whatever
the heck that really is) causes inertia, then we are merely measuring
the relative property of one side of an accelerating object vs the
other.
And we can only capture / convert energy as it flows from one side
of a potential to another, much as we can only get energy out of water
with a water wheel when it is flowing from a higher area to a lower
area.
We are really quite ignorant on this "dark energy".
There is the other theory that the stars / gas clouds / etc. glow
because of electrical currents in space. If this is the case, then
there may be a possibility to capture that. It may also explain the
charge differentials with altitude. Would it be nice if the skyhook
space elevator developed such large charge differentials that it could
also be used to sell energy?! We do have some evidence that there are
substantial charge differentials, using tethered satellites run off the
shuttle.
I do believe that soem 50 - 100 years from now, we will look upon
today's physics as ignorant, and today's energy crisis as an act of
stupidity and lack of faith in humanity itself.
the problem is, we are ignorant, and thus just can't see the energy
all around us till we see it. We need to invent that detector, and then
the means of capturing it.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 14 09:33:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 14 09:34:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014130910.82338.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 14, 2005 06:09:10 AM
Message-ID: <20051014163355.12806.qmail@mall-net.com>
> You need something which is a shorter term and more direct
> measurement, like urine pH. that's still secondary, as it relies on the
> body dumping something as it tries to balance.
>
> I'VE GOTTA GO THEN BY WALGREENS OR OTHER PHARMACY THIS AFTERNOON, AFTER I GET MY PAYCHECK.
>
> I DON'T REMEBER IF YOU INFORMED ME OF THE APPROXIMATE EXPENSE
>
> OF pH TEST STRIPS.
Maybe $6.00. Something in the 5 - 8 range should do.
> > THE VALPROIC ACID HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
>
> How so? Acid will make you breathe faster and deeper.
>
>
> THE EXACT OPPOSITE; IT HAS WEAKENED MY AUTOMATIC BREATHING
> PROCESS; "'TO LIMIT' PANIC ATTACKS."
Sounds like alkalinity, not acidity.
> IT HAS FUCKED UP MY BREATHING PROCESS, IN COMBINATION WITH
> BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS, NOW CAUSED BY CLONAZEPAM.
Get a blood pressure cuff and start taking your blood pressure. My
bet is that it is low some times, not high. It may be high some 0f the
time; but the episodes that I hear you describe may well be low blood
pressure not high. Low blood pressure can also cause panic attacks,
fast heart rate, etc in effort to keep what blood there is moving.
How are your legs? Are your leg muscles large and powerful? did
you walk and bicycle a lot when you were very young? If so, I'll be
that you have low blood pressure whenever the muscles relax.
But we can't tell till we know what your blood pressure readings
are.
It's like the rest of science; if you don't actually measure, you
don't know. You are just guessing. It's ok to guess with a car, the
worst is that the car will break down and need replacement. But if your
body breaks down... it's a little hard to get spare parts.
> > MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND IS QUITE POSSIBLY ON THE
> > VERGE OF FAILURE.
>
> How do you know? Iridology, or pain?
>
> PAIN..!
> PAIN IN MY SIDE(S); PAIN IN MY CARDIOLOGY; BACK PAINS....
>
> If pain, is it the side you sleep on the most?
>
> NO.
> JUST PAIN(S)..!
Overuse of the adrenals, as is implied by the concreteness of
your thoughts, is one possible source. Of course, there are others.
> ALFALFA WAS ALSO SUGESTED LAST NIGHT, AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE,
> TO BALANCE MY BODY pH.
> I COULD'NT AFFORD THE EXPENSE OF ALFALFA; AND IT WAS JUST ANOTHER
> ATTEMPT BY HERBAL-ISM REMEDY THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO TRY.
Greens contains magnesium, regardless of what the source is. Sure,
alfalfa is good; but so are other things, and you know, EVERYONE out
there making or selling is trying to make a buck telling everyone else
that their stuff is great.
> I WANT TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM, WITH VITAMINS, MINERALS,
Lysine, magnesium, zinc...
>
> DISTILLED WATER, ETC....
>
> I ALSO NEED TO BE GETTING MORE DEEP REST AT NIGHT.
>
> I AM NOT GETTING ENOUGH REST; WHICH I HAVE LEARNED; LOADS OF REST REPAIRS THE BODY BEST! ....
Right. see if you can take a nap in the daytime.
> > LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE AND PURCHASED GABA CALM SUBLINGUAL;
> > INGREDIENTS: SORBITOL, MANNITOL, NATURAL ORANGE FLAVOR, MODIFIED
> > CELLULOSE GUM, STEARIC ACID,
>
> So far, sugar and spice, and nothing nice.
>
>
> YES; I WASN'T THINKING OF THAT SAYING, BUT I DEFINATELY KNEW THAT THE
INGREDIENTS ARE FULL OF A LOT OF WORTHLESS SHIT, JUST BY
> READING THEM....
Well, they need something to make the thing stick together in a
pill or whatever form. I mean, i fthey gave you a spec you could hardly
see... vs a huge horse poll... which would SEEM more valuable, ore
effective?
> >... MAGNESIUM STEARATE, MAGNESIUM TAURINATE,
>
> Magnesium! Taurine is also recommended for some types of neural
> problems.
>
> OK.... ; I NEED A LOT OF TAURINE THEN....
I don't know.
> MUSCLE RELAXATION, WITH ZERO SIDE EFFECTS???
I don't know. I do know that niacin has some of the effects of
valium with none of the bad side effects, other than flushing.
>
> > N-ACETAL L-TYROSINE, GLYCINE, GABA; GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC
> > ACID, AND A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: 1 GRAM;
>
> Tyrosine goes to dopamine,
>
> YEAH; AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM; I COULD DEFINATELY TELL THE
> EFFECTS OF THE DOPAMINE IN MY CRANIUM.
> I RODE MY BIKE FOR A SHORT WHILE, AFTER TAKING THE SUPPLEMENT,
> AND WENT TO A PLACE ALONGSIDE A LOCAL CREEK WHERE THERE ARE
> MANY LARGE ROCKS, AND ALMOST LOST MY BALANCE AND ALMOST FELL,
> DUE TO THE DOPAMINE (SEDATING) EFFECTS, IN MY BRAIN....
Dopamine is not a sedating thing, it is an exciting thing.
> GABA is another... You can look them up.
>
>
> YEAH; I DO NEED TO RESEARCH GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID.
> AS I WAS RIDING THE BIKE BACK TO THE HOUSE LAST NIGHT; A FLASH
> THOUGHT CAME TO MIND: NUCLEAR NEUROSIS..!
It's the mitochondria within the cell that give the cell energy.
> WHETHER NUCLEAR NEUROSIS IS GOING ON WITHIN ME OR NOT; I CAN'T EXACTLY
SAY; BUT I AM CERTAINLY STRESSED TO THE POINT TO WHERE IF IT WASN'T FOR
THE YOUTH THAT I STILL HAVE WITHIN MYSELF, FOR 'D.N.A.' > 'CELLULAR'
REGENERATION; I'D PROBABLY BE DEAD OF BOTH HEART DISEASE, AND
CANCER-NUCLEAR-METASTASIS....
Unknown, but well... unknown.
> > I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT AT
> > AROUND 15 TO 16 HZ. SEEMS TO INCREASE MY SHALLOW BREATHING, AND
> > SO THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE EVIDENTLY NOT GOOD FOR MY USEAGE.
>
> Yes, that's where the brain starts getting in gear to think; but has nothing to think
> on, unless you are thinking about something specific.
>
>
> MY MIND IS AS STUBBORN AS BY BRICK WALL BRAINED MOTHER; AND
> AND AS SCREWED UP AS MY FATHER; AND SO MY MIND STRONGLY
> RESISTS THE EFFECTS OF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT.
It is firing too fast under too much adrenaline, if I get it right.
> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FREQUENCY, OR FREQUENCIES THAT YOU
> CAN SUGGEST TO TRY?
As you fall down the bands from 7.83, the body tarts relaxing.
below 5, memory formation becomes difficult. around 2, you are asleep.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 14 09:57:01 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 14 09:57:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORE....
In-Reply-To: <20051014123351.66226.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 14, 2005 05:33:51 AM
Message-ID: <20051014165701.27678.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I FORGOT TO MENTION ALSO, THAT THE IRIDOLOGY
> TEST SHOWED THAT I HAVE A YEAST PROBLEM;
Hmmm... let me think about how to test this... well, there is the
bathtub bubble test... see if your intestinal gas is flammable (good
bacteria) or extinguishes flame due to high CO2 content (bad bacteria /
yeasts.) What I did as to capture the gas in a plastic cup, then tip
the cup far away from myself while holding a match. When I feel good,
it flares up due to methane. When I feel bad, it goes out due to CO2.
One does have to be careful not to get burned!
> I'VE ALWAYS HAD BAD TROUBLE WITH CANKER
> SORES, ALL OF THE WAY BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD.
> I HAVE ALSO BEEN NEGLECTING MY DENTAL
> HEALTH, FOR MATERIAL GAINS IN LIFE.
BOOM!
Slow abscesses will rack up the immune system, adrenal
glands, blood pressure (and c causes instabilities) etc.! Teeth are one
common location for these kinds of problems. Indeed, they say that the
bacteria in and around the teeth can cause some forms of heart disease.
Do you floss?
And all the chiropractic treatments and accupucture, and whatever
will not deal with the cause -- hidden infections. (Tooth or other.)
Now understand, I am not saying that that is what you have! I'm
just saying that that is something we need to look at, as it can cause
huge system-wide effects of the same nature as other major hidden
infections. Till we know the cause and take care of it, we can't really
re-balance the whole system. Without cause, we are just drying to mute
symptoms, kind of like when we push one part of the tire in, the air
pressure just makes another part of the tire bulge.
> I HAVE GOT TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO MY
> HEALTH, BETTER, BECAUSE MY HEALTH HAS NOW
> GONE TO HELL.
> I WOKE THIS MORNING WITH THE SAME OLD STRESS.
> AND MY BACK HURTS TOO.... I WENT TO THE
> CHIROPRACTOR YESTERDAY; BUT MY BACK HURTS
> RIGHT NOW.
If your back ache is due to adrenaline generation by the adrenals,
or yeast problems on the coleosecal valve, or some other things like
that, then chiropractic is a waste of money.
If it is really due to back problems, then it is also due to the
lack of enough vitamin C to strengthen the ligaments and disks. But
then yes, chiropractic will indeed help.
I have a weird knee problem. When I am low on C or highly
allergenic, the knee ligaments become loose, and my knee is prone to
locking up. When I have enough C, and the collagen is strong because
repairs are being done properly due to the vitamin C, my joints are nice
and tight and there is absolutely no tendency toward this at all.
The point is, when I get enough C to repair the collagen, my back,
neck, knee, and other joint problems heal.
> THERE ARE JUST TOO MUCH MONEY WORRIES, AND
> INSUFFICIENT MONEY AND OTHER INSUFFICIENT
> RESOURCES.
Health is your priority, because without health, nothing else
matters. It gets hard to think due to pain, and without a body, you
can't work your scientific apparatus.
> MY NEIGHBORS HAVE INTRUDED INTO MY LIFE TOO
> FAR, AND IF THEY ARE NOT CAREFUL; THEY WILL
> NOT LIKE THE RESULTS OF THEIR TRESPASSES.
> I HAVE GOT TO GET ALL OF THE CORRECT MEDICAL
> HELP THAT I NEED: SOON..!
> THE MEDICAL SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE HAVING A MASS
> SCALE FAILURE FOR ALL PEOPLE; TAKING FAR TOO
> MUCH MONEY 'FOR THEIR SERVICES', AND NOT GIVING
> BACK TO WE THE PEOPLE WHAT WE ALL DESERVE.
> IF I COULD AFFORD A LIBERTARIAN LAWYER; I WOULD
> BLAST THE AMA, THE FDA, SHRINK FOUNDATIONS,
> AND SHRINK INFUCKTUTIONS; BECAUSE I AM SICK OF
> IT F'ING GOD DAMNED ALL..!
Futile move. It takes a lot more than one person to do this.
first worry about your health. Then about more money. With money, you
can hire the doctors, lawyers, start the clinics, etc.
First the health.
> IF I WAS A TERRORIST; I WOULD NUCLEAR BLAST THE
> AMA, THE FDA, SHRINK FOUNDATIONS, AND SHRINK
> INFUCKTUTIONS..!
Would not help! First, it would build support for them due to
sympathy for the dead. Second, it's bad public relations, and third,
it's ineffective. (And fourth, it gets you killed.)
Blast them with something better! Make them obsolete!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 12:38:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 12:38:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051014161148.98862.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051014193842.74684.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Would it be nice if the skyhook space elevator developed such large charge differentials that it could also be used to sell energy?!
YES!
THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT!
We do have some evidence that there are substantial charge differentials, using tethered satellites run off the shuttle.
I do believe that soem 50 - 100 years from now, we will look upon
today's physics as ignorant, and today's energy crisis as an act of
stupidity and lack of faith in humanity itself.
WE BETTER PICK UP THE PACE, I THINK.
THIS SO-CALLED ENERGY CRISIS THAT WE ARE ALL INTERTWINED
INTO, IS CAUSED BY ALL OF US, AS ONE GIANT WHOLE; WE THE
PEOPLE (SHEEPLE).
the problem is, we are ignorant, and thus just can't see the energy
all around us
TILL A MAJOR TRADGEDY HAPPENS PERHAPS???
till we see it. We need to invent that detector, and then
the means of capturing it.
YEP; I AGREE; AN ABSOLUTE DETECTOR..!
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 14 12:55:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051014193842.74684.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 14, 2005 12:38:41 PM
Message-ID: <20051014195551.19657.qmail@mall-net.com>
> javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Would it be nice if the skyhook space elevator developed such large charge differentials that it could also be used to sell energy?!
>
> YES!
>
> THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT!
We don't yet have solid evidence that we could pull this off. Yet...
> We do have some evidence that there are substantial charge differentials, using tethered satellites run off the shuttle.
>
> I do believe that soem 50 - 100 years from now, we will look upon
> today's physics as ignorant, and today's energy crisis as an act of
> stupidity and lack of faith in humanity itself.
>
>
> WE BETTER PICK UP THE PACE, I THINK.
> THIS SO-CALLED ENERGY CRISIS THAT WE ARE ALL INTERTWINED
> INTO, IS CAUSED BY ALL OF US, AS ONE GIANT WHOLE; WE THE
> PEOPLE (SHEEPLE).
> the problem is, we are ignorant, and thus just can't see the energy
> all around us
> TILL A MAJOR TRADGEDY HAPPENS PERHAPS???
Tragedy does not make us look around for what we don't know; it
focuses us upon the tragedy and it's direct causes.
On the other hand, our energy crisis IS a tragedy.
> till we see it. We need to invent that detector, and then
> the means of capturing it.
> YEP; I AGREE; AN ABSOLUTE DETECTOR..!
Things like this are going to be discovered by observation of
subtle interactions, not by some absolute detector.
Your quest for absolutes suggests you are still tense, probably
adrenaline.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 13:16:11 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 13:16:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BODY IS UNDER SEVERE STRESS RIGHT NOW.
In-Reply-To: <20051014163355.12806.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051014201611.90309.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> You need something which is a shorter term and more direct
> measurement, like urine pH. that's still secondary, as it relies on the
> body dumping something as it tries to balance.
OK.
I NEED TO DETOX MY ENTIRE SYSTEM OF ALL OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS KOMMERCIALISM OF PHAMAKOLOGY KHEMICAL KRAP.
pH TEST STRIPS.
Maybe $6.00. Something in the 5 - 8 range should do.
I'M IN SURVIVAL MODE, AND SO $6.00 IS OUT OF MY PRICE RANGE AT
THIS TIME.
IT MAY HAVE TO GO SHELVED TIL NEXT MONTH; IF I REMEMBER NEXT
MONTH.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, FINANCIALLY, TILL THE END OF THIS
WEEK, LET ALONE, TILL THE END OF THE MONTH.
I WANT TO BE PUT TO SLEEP.
AND; WAKE ME UP WHEN OCTOBER ENDS....
> > THE VALPROIC ACID HAS PERMANENTLY EFFECTED MY BREATHING.
>
> How so? Acid will make you breathe faster and deeper.
>
>
> THE EXACT OPPOSITE; IT HAS WEAKENED MY AUTOMATIC BREATHING
> PROCESS; "'TO LIMIT' PANIC ATTACKS."
Sounds like alkalinity, not acidity.
YES; THE WAY THAT I FEEL TELLS ME THAT IT IS TOO MUCH ACIDITY THOUGH
I DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO TEST TO SEE IF
MY HYPOTHESIS IS CORRECT.
I NEED TO START EATING SOME SOUR THINGS WITH THE MOST POTENCY
AVAILABLE.
> IT HAS FUCKED UP MY BREATHING PROCESS, IN COMBINATION WITH
> BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS, NOW CAUSED BY CLONAZEPAM.
Get a blood pressure cuff and start taking your blood pressure.
I CAN'T AFFORD ONE NOW; AND RELYING ON MY MOTHER'S BLOOD PRESSURE CUFF IS INSUFFICIENT.
My bet is that it is low some times, not high. It may be high some 0f the
time; but the episodes that I hear you describe may well be low blood
pressure not high.
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS DRIVE MY BLOOD
PRESSURE UP SUDDENLY; I RENTED THREE MOVIES LAST WEEK; WATCHED
THE FIRST ONE: CRASH; HAVE WATCHED ONLY PART OF THE SECOND ONE:
SUPERSIZE ME, BUT CANNOT TAKE THE SLIGHTEST STRESS FROM WATCHING ANY MORE OF IT, OR FROM ANY POTENTIAL STRESS INDUCEMENT FROM THE THIRD MOVIE: BRUCE ALMIGHTY.
THE LAST TWO MOVIES WERE DUE BACK YESTERDAY.
Low blood pressure can also cause panic attacks, fast heart rate, etc in effort to keep what blood there is moving.
AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM, THE MAGNESIUM, AND ONE OF MY REMAINING CLOCKOPIN PILLS LAST NIGHT; I COULD ACTUALLY FEEL MY HEART BEATING IN MY CHEST AGAIN, LIKE IT USED TO NORMALLY DO.
How are your legs?
THEY ARE FINE AT THE MOMENT, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS THAT THEY HAVE GONE TO SLEEP, AND TWO
DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WERE MY RIGHT ARM HAS GONE TO SLEEP, WHILE
SLEEPING 'NORMALLY'.
Are your leg muscles large and powerful?
YES.
did you walk and bicycle a lot when you were very young?
YES.
If so, I'll bet that you have low blood pressure whenever the muscles relax.
But we can't tell till we know what your blood pressure readings are.
It's like the rest of science; if you don't actually measure, you
don't know. You are just guessing. It's ok to guess with a car, the
worst is that the car will break down and need replacement. But if your
body breaks down... it's a little hard to get spare parts.
YES; MY BODY IS AT THE EDGE OF BREAKDOWN; PERMANENT BREAKDOWN.
> > MY RIGHT KIDNEY IS WORKING OVERTIME, AND IS QUITE POSSIBLY ON THE
> > VERGE OF FAILURE.
> How do you know? Iridology, or pain?
ACTUALLY I FORGOT TO MENTION THE COMBINATION OF BOTH; I WAS
INFORMED, BUT I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUFFERING PAIN FOR A VERY
LONG TIME.
Overuse of the adrenals, as is implied by the concreteness of
your thoughts, is one possible source. Of course, there are others.
YES; ADRENAL OVERKILL..!
> ALFALFA WAS ALSO SUGESTED LAST NIGHT, AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE,
> TO BALANCE MY BODY pH.
> I COULD'NT AFFORD THE EXPENSE OF ALFALFA; AND IT WAS JUST ANOTHER
> ATTEMPT BY HERBAL-ISM REMEDY THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO TRY.
Greens contains magnesium, regardless of what the source is. Sure,
alfalfa is good; but so are other things, and you know, EVERYONE out
there making or selling is trying to make a buck telling everyone else
that their stuff is great.
YEP!
I AM ABSOLUTELY SICK OF THE KOMMERCIALISM OF PHARMAKOLOGY
DICKTATORSHIT..!
> I WANT TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM, WITH VITAMINS, MINERALS,
Lysine, magnesium, zinc...
OK.
> DISTILLED WATER, ETC....
>
> I ALSO NEED TO BE GETTING MORE DEEP REST AT NIGHT.
>
> I AM NOT GETTING ENOUGH REST; WHICH I HAVE LEARNED; LOADS OF REST REPAIRS THE BODY BEST! ....
Right. see if you can take a nap in the daytime.
OK.
> > LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORE AND PURCHASED GABA CALM SUBLINGUAL;
> > INGREDIENTS: SORBITOL, MANNITOL, NATURAL ORANGE FLAVOR, MODIFIED
> > CELLULOSE GUM, STEARIC ACID,
>
> So far, sugar and spice, and nothing nice.
> YES; I WASN'T THINKING OF THAT SAYING, BUT I DEFINATELY KNEW THAT THE INGREDIENTS ARE FULL OF A LOT OF WORTHLESS SHIT, JUST BY
> READING THEM....
Well, they need something to make the thing stick together in a
pill or whatever form. I mean, if they gave you a spec you could hardly
see... vs a huge horse pill... which would SEEM more valuable, or
effective?
RIGHT ON!
> >... MAGNESIUM STEARATE, MAGNESIUM TAURINATE,
>
> Magnesium! Taurine is also recommended for some types of neural
> problems.
>
> OK.... ; I NEED A LOT OF TAURINE THEN....
I don't know.
> MUSCLE RELAXATION, WITH ZERO SIDE EFFECTS???
I don't know. I do know that niacin has some of the effects of
valium with none of the bad side effects, other than flushing.
OK.
> > N-ACETAL L-TYROSINE, GLYCINE, GABA; GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC
> > ACID, AND A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: 1 GRAM;
>
> Tyrosine goes to dopamine,
>
> YEAH; AFTER TAKING THE GABA CALM; I COULD DEFINATELY TELL THE
> EFFECTS OF THE DOPAMINE IN MY CRANIUM.
> I RODE MY BIKE FOR A SHORT WHILE, AFTER TAKING THE SUPPLEMENT,
> AND WENT TO A PLACE ALONGSIDE A LOCAL CREEK WHERE THERE ARE
> MANY LARGE ROCKS, AND ALMOST LOST MY BALANCE AND ALMOST FELL,
> DUE TO THE DOPAMINE (SEDATING) EFFECTS, IN MY BRAIN....
Dopamine is not a sedating thing, it is an exciting thing.
OK; WHICHEVER OF THE CHEMICAL MINERALS WAS DOING ITS THING....
> GABA is another... You can look them up.
>
>
> YEAH; I DO NEED TO RESEARCH GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID.
> AS I WAS RIDING THE BIKE BACK TO THE HOUSE LAST NIGHT; A FLASH
> THOUGHT CAME TO MIND: NUCLEAR NEUROSIS..!
It's the mitochondria within the cell that give the cell energy.
OK.
> WHETHER NUCLEAR NEUROSIS IS GOING ON WITHIN ME OR NOT; I CAN'T EXACTLY
SAY; BUT I AM CERTAINLY STRESSED TO THE POINT TO WHERE IF IT WASN'T FOR
THE YOUTH THAT I STILL HAVE WITHIN MYSELF, FOR 'D.N.A.' > 'CELLULAR'
REGENERATION; I'D PROBABLY BE DEAD OF BOTH HEART DISEASE, AND
CANCER-NUCLEAR-METASTASIS....
Unknown, but well... unknown.
> > I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT AT
> > AROUND 15 TO 16 HZ. SEEMS TO INCREASE MY SHALLOW BREATHING, AND
> > SO THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE EVIDENTLY NOT GOOD FOR MY USEAGE.
>
> Yes, that's where the brain starts getting in gear to think; but has nothing to think
> on, unless you are thinking about something specific.
>
>
> MY MIND IS AS STUBBORN AS BY BRICK WALL BRAINED MOTHER; AND
> AND AS SCREWED UP AS MY FATHER; AND SO MY MIND STRONGLY
> RESISTS THE EFFECTS OF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT.
It is firing too fast under too much adrenaline, if I get it right.
YES;
I TOOK BRAINSTORMING TO MIND AND HEART WHEN MY SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL LITERATURE TEACHER DISCUSSED IT DURING CLASS ONE TIME.
PROBLEM NOW, IS THAT I BRAINSTORM WAY WAY TOO MUCH; TO THE
POINT OF WHERE I CANNOT TURN MY BRAIN OFF, AT WILL.
IT IS THE LACK OF MONEY FINANCIAL RESOUCES AND THE LACK OF OTHER
SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL RESOURCES THAT ARE ALSO GRIEVING ME
SO VERY BADLY, NOT TO MENTION ALSO, THE LACK OF HEALTHCARE.
> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FREQUENCY, OR FREQUENCIES THAT YOU
> CAN SUGGEST TO TRY?
As you fall down the bands from 7.83, the body starts relaxing.
below 5, memory formation becomes difficult. around 2, you are asleep.
OK.
I WANT TO PUT MYSELF TO SLEEP AT WILL; BUT I DO NOT WANT TO KILL
MYSELF FROM SLEEP APNEA, OR BY THE INABILITY TO PURCHASE A
CONTROL TIMER AT THIS TIME, TO TURN THE AUDIO GEN OFF, AT WILL.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Oct 14 14:20:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Art imitating life
Message-ID: <000001c5d105$1d293a50$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Insects tapped for better rubber
Super-resilient material could be useful for medical implants.
Mark Peplow
Resilin makes for super bendy materials.
The springy molecule that gives fleas their amazing jumping ability has been
mimicked in the laboratory. The material could one day be used in anything
from bouncy balls to spinal implants, hope scientists.
Resilin is a rubbery protein that is found in a range of insects. As well as
storing elastic energy in fleas, it helps flying insects' wings to flex
without causing damage to the tissue that connects wing and body.
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051010/full/051010-9.html
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 17:27:56 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 17:28:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Art imitating life.
In-Reply-To: <000001c5d105$1d293a50$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051015002757.83633.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE,
A VERY VERY GOOD ARTICLE!
I'D LIKE TO HAVE RESILIN SKIN!
KINDA JOKING; BUT SERIOUSLY!
I JUST CHECKED OUT A BOOK
TITLED: GENETIC ENGINEERING,
AT THE LIBRARY YESTERDAY;
AND EVEN THOUGH I WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY,
DUE TO MY TROUBLES; I WILL
BE REFERENCING IT ON OCCASION
THROUGHOUT ITS CHECKOUT
PERIOD.
THE BOOK ALSO HAS A GOOD
GLOSSARY AT ITS BACK AS WELL.
ANOTHER COOL THING REGARDING
THE BOOK, IS THAT IT BEGINS WITH
A QUOTE OUT OF UNITED STATES
AMENDMENT ONE: "CONGRESS
SHALL MAKE NO LAW... ABRIDGING
THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF
THE PRESS."
SCANNING THROUGH SOME ITS
PAGES LAST NIGHT, I READ A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT RESILIN, AND ALSO
ABOUT A NATURAL ANTIFREEZE,
IN ALASKAN PACIFIC OCEAN
FLOUNDER FISH, WHICH HAS BEEN
CONSIDERED TO BE MADE PART OF
STRAWBERRY D.N.A., SO THAT
STRAWBERRIES CAN GROW EASIER
IN THE WINTERTIME MONTHS IN THE
UNITED STATES, AND OTHER SPECIFIC
PLACES ON THIS PLANET.
THE OFFICIAL TITLE OF THIS GOOD
BOOK IS: GENETIC ENGINEERING -
OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS.
THE BOOK IS FROM: OPPOSING
VIEWPOINTS SERIES; GREENHAVEN
PRESS INC.
IT DOESN'T GIVE A PARTICULAR
AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, BUT DOES
GIVE THE EDITORS NAMES:
SERIES EDITORS:
DAVID BENDER & BRUNO LEONE.
BOOK EDITOR:
CAROL WEKESSER.
SINCERELY, AND 73; CLYDE.
Michael Best wrote:
Insects tapped for better rubber
Super-resilient material could be useful for medical implants.
Mark Peplow
Resilin makes for super bendy materials.
The springy molecule that gives fleas their amazing jumping ability has been
mimicked in the laboratory. The material could one day be used in anything
from bouncy balls to spinal implants, hope scientists.
Resilin is a rubbery protein that is found in a range of insects. As well as
storing elastic energy in fleas, it helps flying insects' wings to flex
without causing damage to the tissue that connects wing and body.
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051010/full/051010-9.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 18:01:14 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOO MUCH STRESS; NOT ENOUGH OUTLETS....
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Your quest for absolutes suggests you are still tense, probably
adrenaline.
TOO MUCH STRESS; NOT ENOUGH OUTLETS.
I NEED A VENGEANCE VENT.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 21:23:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PORTION OF PAGE 157,
OF: GENETIC ENGINEERING - OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS.
Message-ID: <20051015042307.17711.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
PORTION FROM PAGE 157, OF THE BOOK:
GENETIC ENGINEERING - OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS:
IN THIS ANALYSIS, KOSHLAND NOT ONLY IS MAKING
FALSE PROMISES, BUT IS ACTIVELY DRAWING ATTENTION
AWAY FROM THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL REALITIES
THAT VICTIMIZE PEOPLE.
HE IS DIAGNOSING THE POOR AND UNDERPRIVILEGED
AS SICK, AND IS TOUTING THE BETTER UNDERSTANDING
OF GENES AS A CURE FOR WHAT ARE CLEARLY ECONOMIC,
POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL ILLS.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 21:43:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 14 21:43:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE FUTURE OF TULSA.
Message-ID: <20051015044300.21226.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM NOW WONDERING IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOMETHING VERY VERY DRASTICALLY TRAGIC
TO OCCUR TO THE TULSA OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS
COMMUNICATIONS BANK OF OKLAHOMA WORLD
TRADE TOWER, BY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL
KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE,
IN ORDER TO STIMULATE THE EVER CURSED,
EVER HALF ASSED ECONOMY OF THIS INDUSTRIAL
SLUM TOWN, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA; OWNED AND
OPERATED BY INDUSTRIAL(IST) ZIONIST JEW
DICTATOR: GEORGE KAISER; TO MAKE POSITIVE
CHANGE, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE FUTURE
OF THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED INDUSTRIAL SLUM
TOWN: TULSA OKLAHOMA; IF THIS WORTHLESS
FOREVER HALF ASSED WASTELAND EVEN HAS
A FUTURE AT ALL.
CLYDE LOFTON
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 04:24:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 04:24:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) PORTION OF PAGE 157,
OF: GENETIC ENGINEERING - OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS.
Message-ID: <20051015112447.4748.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
(REVISED:)
PORTION FROM PAGE 157, OF THE BOOK:
GENETIC ENGINEERING - OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS:
IN THIS ANALYSIS, KOSHLAND NOT ONLY IS MAKING
FALSE PROMISES, BUT IS ACTIVELY DRAWING ATTENTION
AWAY FROM THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL REALITIES
THAT VICTIMIZE PEOPLE.
HE IS DIAGNOSING THE POOR AND UNDERPRIVILEGED
AS SICK, AND IS TOUTING THE "BETTER" UNDERSTANDING
OF GENES AS A CURE FOR WHAT ARE CLEARLY ECONOMIC,
POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL ILLS.
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sat Oct 15 04:39:59 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sat Oct 15 04:40:04 2005
Subject: Fw: Re: [Mad-Scientists] Plywood Space Ship
In-Reply-To: <20051015.042003.55.207247@webmail11.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051015113959.1586.qmail@web210.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
First of all, there is sound in space. For instance, the velocity of sound is around 100,000 km/sec between Mars and Jupiter - where the self accelerating Solar Wind produces its sonic boom (due to Nature's Free Energy effect). So lower audio frequencies should also be usable. The trick may be to combine the high density accoustic energy with high frequency electrostatic fields, perhaps in the form of a gradient. Or perhaps use complex electromagnetic fields. The opaque blueish Field Energy in my artifacts picture blocks, and is parted by, light coming from the baseboard. Since the Field Energy reacts with light, it should also, at a high enough intensity, interact with matter.
Clyde wrote:
I WISH I COULD HAVE JOINED IN SOONER, REGARDING
SPACESHIP DESIGN; BUT I HAVE SO MUCH INTERFERENCE IN
MY LIFE; CAUSING ME TO BE SO PREOCCUPIED WITH SO MUCH
ENDLESS NONSENSICAL USELESS AND WORTHLESS SHIT....
I guess we'd better get busy and invent a Force Field.
YES; THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN SEE SUCCESSFULLY STRONG
FORCE FIELDS BEING CREATED, IS BY SOMEHOW USING HIGH
STRENGTH ACOUSTIC ENERGY; BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO
EXACTLY GO ABOUT ACHIEVING THE HIGH FORCE FIELD STRENGTH,
REQUIRED; PERHAPS THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF THE SHIP,
PERFECTLY EVENLY SURFACE COATED WITH THE HIGHEST OF
DECIBEL PRODUCING ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCERS; BUT THERE IS
ANOTHER PROBLEM: NO AUDIBLE SOUND WAVES PROPAGE IN
THE VACUUM OF SPACE, AND SO THE FREQUENCY OUTPUT OF
EACH TRANSDUCER WOULD HAVE TO OPERATE AT ULTRASONIC,
AND / OR HIGHER RANGE, AND HIGHER THAN HELL AMPLITUDE
OUTPUT.
ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS WOULD BE TOO WEAK, TO REPEL
SPACE ROCKS, AND SPACEJUNK.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 04:40:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 04:41:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) THE FUTURE OF TULSA.
Message-ID: <20051015114047.83011.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
(REVISED:)
THE FUTURE OF TULSA:
TULSA OKLAHOMA: OWNED AND OPERATED BY
INDUSTRIALIST NEO ZIONIST JEW DICTATOR:
GEORGE KAISER.
I AM NOW WONDERING IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOMETHING VERY VERY DRASTICALLY TRAGIC
TO OCCUR TO THE TULSA OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS
COMMUNICATIONS BANK OF OKLAHOMA WORLD
TRADE TOWER; SOMETHING LIKE SEPTEMBER
THE 11TH - 2001, BY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL
KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE,
IN ORDER TO STIMULATE THE FOREVER HALF
ASSED, EVER CURSED ECONOMY, OF THIS
INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN: TULSA OKLAHOMA; TO
MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE, FOR THE BETTERMENT
OF THE FUTURE OF THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED
INDUSTRIAL SLUM; THAT IS, IF THIS CURRENTLY
WORTHLESS FOREVER HALF ASSED WASTELAND
EVEN HAS A FUTURE AT ALL.
COME ON AND SPREAD THE WEALTH, MR. KAISER!
PLEASE..!
CLYDE LOFTON
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sat Oct 15 05:23:05 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sat Oct 15 05:23:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WHEELWORK OF NATURE.
In-Reply-To: <20051015.042204.55.207251@webmail11.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20051015122305.80674.qmail@web203.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
-- Clyde wrote:
> IN OTHER WORDS: RADIANT ENERGY: ='S HIGH POWER, LOW
>
> FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC AUDIO RADIO ENERGY..!
> E.L.F. RADIATION..!
>
> E.L.F. RADIO-ATION..!
-Radiant Energy is a type of positive paramagnetic force which is longitudinal, rather than transverse like radio waves. This means that it flings straight out, rather than vibrating back and forth sideways as it travels. The magnetic component of the field also stretches straight out and is in step with the electric field component, both appearing at the same moment. Radiant Energy exists at all frequencies, with the lower frequencies traveling much faster than light, the higher frequencies traveling slower than light, and the visible frequecies traveling slower than sound.
-- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
These are things which are known to vibrate atoms and molecules,
and are thus hot forms of energy which w3e can detect. they are
transformable to heat, and heat is transformable to light
(electro-magnetic) energy.
Your audio energy, because it is molecular movement in the air,
transforms to heat, and is thus a form of light energy.
-Audio energy is also longitudinal. It vibrates back and forth in the same direction it travels.
What scientists mean by dark energy is, I believe, energy which
does not couple to mater easily, and hence does not easily transform to
light energy.
That's what is missing from our observations.
-Dark energy refers to energy which can't be seen with telescopes, since it is black.
One possibility is that it shows up as intrinsic properties, e.g.
gravity, inertia, etc.
-Dark energy is regarded as having an effect which opposes that of gravity. Einstein predicted that dark energy will curve space in the opposite direction as that which is produced by the presence of matter. This is the effect which is currently believed to be the reason that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate.
The other possibility that we can think of, is that it is
everywhere to the point where we can not detect it because most of our
sensors are differential sensors,, not absolute sensors -- even when we
think they may be absolute sensors.
-I don't have any details, but I read on KeelyNet that dark energy has been measured to have a density around 4,000 Volts/cm. How it was measured is a subject for further research.
For example, we think inertia is an absolute; but if ZPG (Whatever
the heck that really is) causes inertia, then we are merely measuring
the relative property of one side of an accelerating object vs the
other.
-The ZPF, or Zero Point Field, refers to forces, particles, and energy which exists below the ground state of the background charge or temperature of space. Just as a particle and its anti-particle will mutually anihilate, these same particles can mutually manifest when time momentarily reverses for a tiny fraction of a second. The resulting stress in the fabric of space evens out with the subsequent anihilation event.
-Yes, acceleration, and velocity itself, produces a relativistic shrink gradient from one side of a particle or object to the other. When we learn how to 'turn on' this gradient directly, we will be able to instantaneously 'switch on' acceleration.
And we can only capture / convert energy as it flows from one side
of a potential to another, much as we can only get energy out of water
with a water wheel when it is flowing from a higher area to a lower
area.
-If energy or negative energy from the ZPF is interacted with, the remaining half of the 'dipole' is released and continues to manifest. This produces a localized imballance which can be accumulated and discharged to ground, through a work circuit or load. Common ways of doing this use a suddenly accelerated plasma or an abruptly expanded complex vector potential.
We are really quite ignorant on this "dark energy".
-We're learning.
There is the other theory that the stars / gas clouds / etc. glow
because of electrical currents in space. If this is the case, then
there may be a possibility to capture that. It may also explain the
charge differentials with altitude. Would it be nice if the skyhook
space elevator developed such large charge differentials that it could
also be used to sell energy?! We do have some evidence that there are
substantial charge differentials, using tethered satellites run off the
shuttle.
-The atmospheric charge gradient is around a kiloVolt per meter, but the miliamps are low. Extraction requires an ionizing potential, such as is produced by a radioactive particle, and a sharp point. Or, just a long, horizontal wire. The tethered satellite did generate substantial current as it cut through the Earth's magnetic flux.
-I don't expect to see the skyhook space elevator in actuallity. My own space elevator will use internal propulsion (angular gyroscopic lift) to provide cheap access to space. This technology is proven, as I have a number of working prototypes.
I do believe that soem 50 - 100 years from now, we will look upon
today's physics as ignorant, and today's energy crisis as an act of
stupidity and lack of faith in humanity itself.
the problem is, we are ignorant, and thus just can't see the energy
all around us till we see it. We need to invent that detector, and then
the means of capturing it.
-I agree. (JerryVolland@spaceoffice.us)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sat Oct 15 05:35:03 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sat Oct 15 05:35:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) THE FUTURE OF TULSA.
In-Reply-To: <20051015114047.83011.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
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Wealth is something which has to be created. I'm hoping you'll persue your talking clock idea. Or, why not find someone who's making that sort of thing off shore, and sell it to the blind? American quality counts, but low price is also important. -JV
clyde lofton wrote:
(REVISED:)
THE FUTURE OF TULSA:
TULSA OKLAHOMA: OWNED AND OPERATED BY
INDUSTRIALIST NEO ZIONIST JEW DICTATOR:
GEORGE KAISER.
I AM NOW WONDERING IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOMETHING VERY VERY DRASTICALLY TRAGIC
TO OCCUR TO THE TULSA OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS
COMMUNICATIONS BANK OF OKLAHOMA WORLD
TRADE TOWER; SOMETHING LIKE SEPTEMBER
THE 11TH - 2001, BY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL
KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE,
IN ORDER TO STIMULATE THE FOREVER HALF
ASSED, EVER CURSED ECONOMY, OF THIS
INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN: TULSA OKLAHOMA; TO
MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE, FOR THE BETTERMENT
OF THE FUTURE OF THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED
INDUSTRIAL SLUM; THAT IS, IF THIS CURRENTLY
WORTHLESS FOREVER HALF ASSED WASTELAND
EVEN HAS A FUTURE AT ALL.
COME ON AND SPREAD THE WEALTH, MR. KAISER!
PLEASE..!
CLYDE LOFTON
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 10:59:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 10:59:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) THE FUTURE OF TULSA.
In-Reply-To: <20051015123503.10040.qmail@web210.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051015175925.51416.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
thrustmeister < thrustmeister@spaceoffice.us > wrote:Wealth is something which has to be created.
YEAH; THOUGH I WAS ACTUALLY REFERING TO THE ECONOMY OF
TULSA, AND NOT NECESSARILY THE OVERALL WEALTH FOR THE PEOPLE
AS AN ENTIRE WHOLE; EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF HEALTHCARE.
HEALTHCARE; AS SAID SO MANY DAMNED TIMES NOW, BY SO MANY
OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE : ****NEEDS DRASTIC REFORM..!****
I AM NOW SUFFERING BECAUSE OF SO-CALLED HEALTHCARE;
WHICH SHOULD BE RENAMED: HEALTHSCARE!
AND I'LL BE ONE OF ITS NEXT CASUALTIES, IF THINGS DO NOT TURN
AROUND FOR THE POSITIVE, FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT EQUALLY
ALSO, FOR EVERYONE ELSE; WEALTH FOLLOWS HEALTH; (HEALTH FIRST);
AND WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED HAVE EQUALITY IN THAT AREA OF LIFE,
WITH ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
I'm hoping you'll persue your talking clock idea.
YEAH; I JUST SENT OFF MY COMPILATION OF HARD WORKED - HARD EFFORTED MATERIALS THE OTHER DAY, TO THE EMHART / N.A.S.A
CREATE THE FUTURE AND WIN CONTEST; PRESENTING TO THE BEST OF
MY ABILITY, THE PROFESSIONAL G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT HAS GIVEN ME SO MUCH TREMENDOUS GRIEF IN WORKING
TOWARD ITS FULFILLMENT.
Or, why not find someone who's making that sort of thing offshore,
NOPE..!
I REJECT CHINESE MADE TRASH.
CHINESE IS ABSOLUTE WORTHLESSNESS..!
IF I WERE TO HAVE IT MADE OFFSHORE; I WOULD PRESENT THE IDEA
TO SOMEONE IN GERMANY, OR TO SOMEONE IN JAPAN ONLY..!
I AM ABSOLUTELY SICKENED BY ALL OF THE CHINESE GARBAGE PRESENTLY OVERFLOWING THIS COUNTRY..!
PRODUCTS MADE IN MEXICO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A HIGHER STANDARD THAN CRAPP-UNIST CHINA; BUT WITH ALL OF THE ILLEGAL
ALIENS FROM TURD WORLD COUNTRY MEXICO ILLEGALLY COMING
INTO AMERICA TO GET CHEAP LABOR HERE; IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE
TO ME TO HAVE MEXICAN WORKERS IN MEXICO DOING CHEAP LABOR
FOR ME, DOWN THERE, WHEN WE HAVE SHITLOADS OF ILLEGALS UP
HERE 'IN THE U.S.S.A.'.
and sell it to the blind?
IF I COULD SELL TO THE BLIND, I WOULD; BUT A $300.00 TO $400.00
PRICED - PROFESSIONAL RACKMOUNTABLE CASED; MADE IN THE
U.S.A. - WITH ONLY THE HIGHEST OF QUALITY PARTS AND
COMPONENTS, TALKING CLOCK, WILL MORE THAN LIKELY NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO MOST BLIND FOLKS; EXCEPT TO MUSICIAN: STEVIE WONDER.
American quality counts, but low price is also important.
YEAH.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE DESIGN OF THE TALKING CLOCK HAS TO BE COMPRISED
OF THE UTMOST MINIMALISM, YET AT THE SAME TIME; I HAVE TO
KEEP ONLY THE HIGHEST OF QUALITY N.I.S.T. TYPE OF STANDARDS
THAT ARE AVAILABLE, IN ITS MANUFACTURING PROCESS.
I HATE COMMUNIST CHINA..!
CLYDE
-JV
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
(REVISED:)
THE FUTURE OF TULSA:
TULSA OKLAHOMA: OWNED AND OPERATED BY
INDUSTRIALIST NEO ZIONIST JEW DICTATOR:
GEORGE KAISER.
I AM NOW WONDERING IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOMETHING VERY VERY DRASTICALLY TRAGIC
TO OCCUR TO THE TULSA OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS
COMMUNICATIONS BANK OF OKLAHOMA WORLD
TRADE TOWER; SOMETHING LIKE SEPTEMBER
THE 11TH - 2001, BY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL
KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE,
IN ORDER TO STIMULATE THE FOREVER HALF
ASSED, EVER CURSED ECONOMY, OF THIS
INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN: TULSA OKLAHOMA; TO
MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE, FOR THE BETTERMENT
OF THE FUTURE OF THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED
INDUSTRIAL SLUM; THAT IS, IF THIS CURRENTLY
WORTHLESS FOREVER HALF ASSED WASTELAND
EVEN HAS A FUTURE AT ALL.
COME ON AND SPREAD THE WEALTH, MR. KAISER!
PLEASE..!
CLYDE LOFTON
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 15 11:03:03 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 11:03:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) THE FUTURE OF TULSA.
In-Reply-To: <20051015123503.10040.qmail@web210.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 15, 2005 05:35:03 AM
Message-ID: <20051015180303.25123.qmail@mall-net.com>
Satisfaction and what it is to be a Real Mad Scientist
> THE FUTURE OF TULSA:
>
> TULSA OKLAHOMA: OWNED AND OPERATED BY
> INDUSTRIALIST NEO ZIONIST JEW DICTATOR:
> GEORGE KAISER.
He might not appreciate that characterization.
In general, if you can't back statements like this up with provable
facts, it is unwise to make statements like this as the person has
recourse to libel and slander laws. It's like in science, when you say
A is B, you have to prove it with specific examples, tests, etc.
> I AM NOW WONDERING IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE
> SOMETHING VERY VERY DRASTICALLY TRAGIC
> TO OCCUR TO THE TULSA OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS
> COMMUNICATIONS BANK OF OKLAHOMA WORLD
> TRADE TOWER; SOMETHING LIKE SEPTEMBER
> THE 11TH - 2001, BY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL
> KOMM-UNION-ISM-PLEX AND ISLAM COOPERATIVE,
> IN ORDER TO STIMULATE THE FOREVER HALF
> ASSED, EVER CURSED ECONOMY, OF THIS
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN: TULSA OKLAHOMA; TO
> MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE, FOR THE BETTERMENT
> OF THE FUTURE OF THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM; THAT IS, IF THIS CURRENTLY
> WORTHLESS FOREVER HALF ASSED WASTELAND
> EVEN HAS A FUTURE AT ALL.
I am sure that quite a few people would disagree with you on your
assessment of Tulsa.
Even if Islam-bad blew up the bank and all the money flew around
Tulsa in the wind for all the find, it would not help. First, because
there is very little paper money in a bank, and second, because it's
not yours, and you know it. You'd always be worried that someone saw
you take some of that money and not turn it in. Finding easy money gives
you no inherent satisfaction, not the way money you have personally
earned does.
I hold similar feelings for a certain large corporation which
ripped off my patented technology, but I don't go around yelling and
screaming about it because it would discourage people from talking to
me.
We went the round of a bunch of Intellectual Property lawyers,
looked at their fees, checked out some contingency lawyers, etc. In the
end, our economic assessment and our Psychological assessment was that
we had neither the funds nor the stamina to wage war against this large
corporation. And so decided to get on with our lives.
Let me repeat that: And so decided to get on with our lives!
I could yell and scream about some of the individuals involved,
relatives who pulled funding at critical times in the development of the
technology, bastards who canceled meetings, and rear sphincters who
didn't understand what we had, etc.
But what would that gain me?
Negatives! It would pollute my life with a lot of negatives, turn
me into a bitter shriveled person who never trusted anyone, never DID
anything else, etc.
I could also rant and rave about an ex-wife who tried to, um, "put
me out of my misery" several times. Or about her gross incompetence,
etc. (Though I am quite grateful for her incompetence, at least in
those attempts.)
The bottom line is that I want a life, Clyde!
If I spent all my time ranting and railing about the slights (and
tragedies) of the past, I'd not have TIME to have a life. Nor the
optimism.
You get a life by looking to the future, by doing new things,
having new adventures.
And yes, distilling the past into cogent lessons of things to do
differently; but not wasting too much time on that.
Life is supposed to be an adventure, Clyde. You don't get
everything right. You don't get away without being banged up a bit,
either. (I have a hell of a lot of allergies and learned a lot of
medical information from some of those bangs!)
The real goals of life are to see how many DIFFERENT adventures you
can have, and how long a life you can live. (Little bit of a trade-off
there.)
> COME ON AND SPREAD THE WEALTH, MR. KAISER!
> PLEASE..!
Just like the only real knowledge being that you gained by your
own experiments, the only wealth you have is the wealth you make
yourself.
The only satisfaction you have, is from what you have done.
Think about that.
If you find a dollar on the street, you have a dollar to spent on a
treat.
If you earn a dollar, you can earn another, and another, and
another.
And the more dollars you earn by the more different ways, the more
satisfied you are that you can earn a dollar any time you need one!
That is real security!
And satisfaction!
It's the same way with mad science. If you can do something in one
field, you have some satisfaction. But when you show that you are
competent in many fields, then you know that you are a Real Mad
Scientist!
So work at getting your health in order, Clyde, so you can have
more adventures.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 12:52:30 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 12:52:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OXLEY NATURE CENTER REDBUD VALLEY,
AND MAIN PAGE WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20051015195230.42924.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
REDBUD VALLEY WEBLINK:
http://www.oxleynaturecenter.org/redbud.htm
OXLEY NATURE CENTER HOMEPAGE
WEBLINK:
http://www.oxleynaturecenter.org
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 15:48:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURTS SO MUCH?
Message-ID: <20051015224849.93770.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT SO MUCH?
IT SEEMS THE MORE THAT I TRY, THE MORE
THAT THINGS SEEM TO GO WRONG; THINGS
WHICH ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
MY AUTOMOBILE - MY TRUCK, IS NOW SAYING
SERVICE ENGINE SOON (ON THE DASH), AND
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS
SUPPOSED TO COME FROM.
THE TRUCK ITSELF IS A GOOD TRUCK, BUT
BOTH THE ENGINE AND THE TRANSMISSION
THAT DRIVE THE INFERNAL COMBUSTION
ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION DAMNED THING
ARE NOT GOOD.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 15:53:04 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 15:53:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (CORRECTION TO TITLE:) WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT
SO MUCH?
Message-ID: <20051015225304.34429.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT SO MUCH?
IT SEEMS THE MORE THAT I TRY, THE MORE
THAT THINGS SEEM TO GO WRONG; THINGS
WHICH ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
MY AUTOMOBILE - MY TRUCK, IS NOW SAYING
SERVICE ENGINE SOON (ON THE DASH), AND
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS
SUPPOSED TO COME FROM.
THE TRUCK ITSELF IS A GOOD TRUCK, BUT
BOTH THE ENGINE AND THE TRANSMISSION
THAT DRIVE THE INFERNAL COMBUSTION
ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION DAMNED THING
ARE NOT GOOD.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 15 17:55:44 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 17:56:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (CORRECTION TO TITLE:) WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT
In-Reply-To: <20051015225304.34429.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 15, 2005 03:53:04 PM
Message-ID: <20051016005544.9503.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT SO MUCH?
I don't know, Clyde. Part of it is bad planning, part is past
decisions, and part is lack of coping skills, strategic positioning,
etc. And a lot of it is random chance.
> IT SEEMS THE MORE THAT I TRY, THE MORE
> THAT THINGS SEEM TO GO WRONG; THINGS
> WHICH ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
Well, of course! The more you try, the more exposure you get. That
does not mean stop trying, it means look at risks more intelligently.
Now, since part of your specific situation involves a brain that is
not working as well as it should, then of course, you are not going to
go through all the details before you move on something, so the risk
exposure, the lack of planning, etc. will not be optimal.
That's why focusing on health is so important for you. We got to
get that brain working better. And with that, you'll be less down on
Tulsa, etc.
> MY AUTOMOBILE - MY TRUCK, IS NOW SAYING
> SERVICE ENGINE SOON (ON THE DASH), AND
> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS
> SUPPOSED TO COME FROM.
Mine does that from time to time. Check oil, clean plugs, etc.
Things you can do yourself; but which take time, tools, etc.
> THE TRUCK ITSELF IS A GOOD TRUCK, BUT
> BOTH THE ENGINE AND THE TRANSMISSION
> THAT DRIVE THE INFERNAL COMBUSTION
> ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION DAMNED THING
> ARE NOT GOOD.
I could say that about my truck, but I've also beat the heck out if
it on the dirt roads here. Last year we had a major chunk of iron break
from the constant shaking of driving on these roads, where it is not
unusual to suddenly drop a few inches over gulleys, washboarding, etc.
My Toyota Tercel broke some welds, ejected a strut into the hood, etc.
The shock absorbers on each lated just about eight to nine months,
and that's without driving every day.
> I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
> I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
What's the alternative, Clyde?
Look at what you can do. Then if that does not make you feel good,
look at how some other people in this world live. How would you like to
be a tribal African? Or a cold Mongolian yak herder? Or have to watch
your tongue in China?
I know my life isn't that good in the mountains, having to truck in
water, like I did yesterday, drive about an hour to a grocery store,
etc.
But you know, Clyde, I'm free. There is a grocery store an hour
away. I have food, the internet, and a heck of a lot of other things.
Life is good here. No, it's not great, but is is one heck of a lot
better than the lives of lies and fear that some of my relatives had to
live in the old sov onion, because they were too slow in trying to
escape during World War II. Some of them died in Siberia, died of cold,
malnutrition, and overwork. Other friends lost relatives in the
concentration camps in Germany. Our family lost some friends there too.
If you believe life is good, it will be good. If you look for ways
of making life better, you will find those ways.
But if you make the bad of life all you think about, you will not
do much.
Right now, you are driven by two things.
First, is the gain on your memory encoding circuits is too high.
Thus, everything seems more concrete, and the confusion of thought is
more difficult because you are striving too hard for instant clarity.
In other words, memory forms too harshly. This is a physiological
problem. Something is wrong, probably adrenaline levels are too high, as
they drive memory and thought to the concrete.
Second, your mind is filled with negatives. that's why I keep
saying that you need to go out there, look for beauty in and around
Tulsa. It _IS_ there. You just have to open your mind to seeing it.
For that, a camera helps; but even a piece of paper and a pencil will
do. Write down the nice things you see. Describe them. Over time, you
will do better at writing that stuff.
You have to want to see better. It's there, you just have to have
the faith that if you look, you WILL find it. And the more you find of
it, the easier it will be to find more of it.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sat Oct 15 20:48:12 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sat Oct 15 20:48:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (CORRECTION TO TITLE:) WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO
HURT SO MUCH?
In-Reply-To: <20051015225304.34429.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051016034812.21748.qmail@web403.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
There's not much I can add, after John's discussion. But if you're sick of 'Life', I take it you mean the 'situations' in your life. Why not buy some of that land in Arkansas for little down and little per month, and just get away from it all? I'm considering doing something like that in the near future.
Jerry
clyde lofton wrote:
WHY DOES LIFE HAVE TO HURT SO MUCH?
IT SEEMS THE MORE THAT I TRY, THE MORE
THAT THINGS SEEM TO GO WRONG; THINGS
WHICH ARE BEYOND MY CONTROL.
MY AUTOMOBILE - MY TRUCK, IS NOW SAYING
SERVICE ENGINE SOON (ON THE DASH), AND
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS
SUPPOSED TO COME FROM.
THE TRUCK ITSELF IS A GOOD TRUCK, BUT
BOTH THE ENGINE AND THE TRANSMISSION
THAT DRIVE THE INFERNAL COMBUSTION
ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION DAMNED THING
ARE NOT GOOD.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
I AM SICK OF 'LIFE'.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 21:57:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 21:57:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOME NOTES FROM TODAY....
Message-ID: <20051016045750.87728.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
SOME NOTES THAT I JOTTED DOWN,
EARLIER TODAY:
I AM SICK OF THE ENVIRONMENT,
BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT HAS
MADE ME SICK.
THE FASCIST NEOCONS HAVE
TAKEN ENVIRONMENTAL ILLNESS
TOO FAR.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 22:27:40 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 15 22:27:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
Message-ID: <20051016052740.62290.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 15 23:04:37 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 15 23:04:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Solar folklore
Message-ID: <004d01c5d217$7e3a2df0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Very interesting folklore from around the world.
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/folklore/folklore.html
From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sun Oct 16 07:26:21 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sun Oct 16 07:26:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051016052740.62290.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051016142621.91265.qmail@web408.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
This site is great! The picture (complete with helicopters, suggesting advanced knowledge) shows lightning forking together and curling around itself - an unnatural effect. The included links are worth saving to disc.
clyde lofton wrote:
http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 16 08:59:59 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 09:00:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051016142621.91265.qmail@web408.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 16, 2005 07:26:21 AM
Message-ID: <20051016155959.18027.qmail@mall-net.com>
> This site is great! The picture (complete with helicopters,
suggesting advanced knowledge) shows lightning forking together and
curling around itself - an unnatural effect. The included links are
worth saving to disc.
Photographs aside...
There is no question that Tesla was some kind of genius.
However, we have had many geniuses since then and learned far,
far more about the nature of matter and anergy than he could have known.
We have had many geniuses who have thought to look in diverse places for
free energy. We have not, as of yet, found anything really free.
To think there is a conspiracy which could so strangulate human
knowledge boggles the mind. But just as we feared the boogyman under
our beds, only to realize from the consistency of the world that he is
not there; so too, we must realize that the consistency of our economic
world makes a conspiracy of such size utterly impossible.
Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
Look at, for example, the airplane. How many others were inventing
ways of flight? We celebrate the Wright Brothers; but there were others
in several countries. Or the light bulb. Was Edison the first? Or the
telephone. We celebrate Alexander Bell; but Gray had a different method,
one with inherent amplification.
So it is unlikely in the extreme that Tesla and Tesla alone could
have conceived something so radically different that no one else could
invent it within a short time.
One recurrent theme of Tesla's was the wireless distribution of
energy. Given the mind set of the day, I think it more likely that it
is this which made some think that he had a free source of energy.
Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
to steal the thunder of your mind.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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Chem / Fungus allergies
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Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 09:39:13 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 16 09:39:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20051016163913.41712.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
AMERICA HAS GONE TO BOTH MORAL AND
TECHNICAL HELL; AND I AM ONE OF THE #1
PERSONS WHO HAS TO SUFFER BECAUSE
OF IT.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 09:48:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 16 09:49:10 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORAL AND TECHNICAL HELL.
Message-ID: <20051016164850.29141.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
MORAL AND TECHNICAL HELL:
AMERICA HAS GONE TO BOTH MORAL AND
TECHNICAL HELL; AND I AM ONE OF THE #1
PERSONS WHO HAS TO SUFFER BECAUSE
OF IT.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 16 10:32:54 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 10:33:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Solar folklore
In-Reply-To: <004d01c5d217$7e3a2df0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
16, 2005 02:04:37 AM
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>
> Very interesting folklore from around the world.
>
> http://solar-center.stanford.edu/folklore/folklore.html
After America landed on the moon, the [ethnic-group] peoples
decided to send a team to the sun. Some protested it would be too hot
to land. The would-be astronauts replied that they had a way of taking
care of that, they would land on the sun at night.
I think they are still waiting.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Oct 16 12:28:57 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 12:29:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
Message-ID:
In a message dated 10/16/2005 12:39:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
AMERICA HAS GONE TO BOTH MORAL AND
TECHNICAL HELL; AND I AM ONE OF THE #1
PERSONS WHO HAS TO SUFFER BECAUSE
OF IT.
CLYDE
Dear Clyde.
In what way have our morals gone down hill
in the last 100 years?
As society changes, so do the morals.
My grandma was raised to find it immoral to wear her skirts above her
ankle. Strange but at that time, there was few hamlets, towns or large cities that
did not have places for widows or overage single woman to earn a living.
Pleasure houses they called them.
Morals are different for each of us Clyde. You have but to read the daily
paper to see how different morals are today from yesterday. Morals change as
society moves on, it adapts to the needs of the age .
Example----- In New Orleans the looting was understandable, not moral but
you understood why the poor would glom onto anything they could get. The
government stated it is moral to loot for food and water, but if you took a t.v.
someone would shoot you.
Moral,---it may seem to us that life is going down the tubes. Not so
Clyde. You take a village of 1000 good folks a hundred years ago there would be
say 60 seriously mentally ill people. Say 400 people of the village are out
right crooks, add in 400 people who are jealous of their neighbors, and will do
anything to make them look bad. what do you get, you get perhaps 100 Plus or
take people who are not of the above.
Today a town of 100,00 people has 6,000, seriously mentally ill wandering
the streets. 40,000 are crocks, 40,000 are the jealous folk and out of the
whole bunch you get less then 2,000 people that are none of the above.
The larger the population gets the larger the problems get. Digenesis
wandered about with a lantern looking for an honest person, do you think he ever
found him/her ??
We humans are not perfect Clyde, not you, me or the neighbors. We can only
improve ourselves by recognizing our own faults before we blame others for the
state of our lives.
Regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 17:02:58 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 16 17:03:10 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
Message-ID: <20051017000258.42888.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1995/vp950702/06300675.htm
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT
OF AMERICA IN THE FUTURE?
DOES AMERICA HAVE A FUTURE AT ALL?
I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH.
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IF THIS WAS A DICTATORSHIP, IT'D BE A
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 17:57:21 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 16 17:57:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: "Check Engine" light.
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Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Hi Clyde?
All this means is that the Engine Control Module (ECM) has stored a trouble code
in RAM. Nothing more. You can take it to an Auto Zone or Advance Auto store,
and they will download and interpret the codes for you.
OK; I'LL TRY TO LOOK INTO THAT SOON.
Alternatively, tell me the make, model, and year; I will tell you how to access the
stored trouble codes and direct you to a table to interpret them.
MY TRUCK IS A 1998 CHEVY S-10 EXTENDED CAB 4 CYLINDER PICKUP TRUCK;
ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE STORED TROUBLE
CODES; I DON'T HAVE ANY OF MY OWN ADVANCED TEST EQUIPMENT TO
FIND THE PROBLEM.
Typically, the codes are displayed by flashing the Check Engine indicator. After
you jumper a particular pin of the ECM diagnostic connector to either ground, B+,
or another pin of the connector, switch on the ignition key, and the Check Engine
light will flash the trouble codes.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND; IS THERE AN ACTUAL DISPLAY THAT IS INTEGRATED
INTO THE DASH METERING, TO WHERE I WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE EXACT
TROUBLE GOING ON WITH THE ENGINE?
The codes are cleared from RAM by disconnecting the battery ground terminal for
five minutes, allowing the backup power capacitor to discharge. Of course, this
also clears any other memories, e.g. the drivability profile in the ECM and the radio
presets.
Take care,
73, Mike
WD4DUG
OK.
73, CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 16 20:20:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
In-Reply-To: <20051017000258.42888.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 16, 2005 05:02:58 PM
Message-ID: <20051017031948.69886.qmail@mall-net.com>
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1995/vp950702/06300675.htm
>
> IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT
> OF AMERICA IN THE FUTURE?
Of course.
> DOES AMERICA HAVE A FUTURE AT ALL?
Of course it does!
> I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH.
We endured the "war to end all wars", liberating Europe then, and
again in the next war, and keeping the sovs at bay with The Cold War. We
endured The Creat Crash, The Great Depression, Carter's Stagflation, the
dawn of the railroad age, the automobile age, the airplane age... come
to think of it, we created the automobile and airplane ages and the mass
production assembly line. The age of electricity, the transistor
("Transistor sister, with her radio!") , the microwave oven (which
totally revolutionized cooking!), the jet engine, the computer, the
business computer, the personal computer, genetic engineering, pioneered
heart surgery, brain surgery, etc.
We broke the sound barrier, put men on the moon, flew around the
world, with and without landing, etc.
Sure, we had Enron, Worldcom, etc. Did those bring us down???
Hardly!
We even ended the cold war by bankrupting the Sov union!!! Yes,
that's exactly how we did it, we BANKRUPTED our enemy without
firing a single missile!!!
Clyde, we've endured things which cause REVOLUTIONS in other
countries, and didn't even blink!
America is THE NUMBER ONE world power, both economically,
militarily, and CULTURALLY! (Our number one export is entertainment, TV
shows and movies, as well as many computer based games, often
re-licensed via hardware manufacturers based in Japan, Taiwan, and now
South Korea.)
More people speak English than any other language! And I remember
when my father told me America might not do too well, so I had better
learn French, as the French have the culture to endure, though Spanish
might be a good second bet for a world language.
Simply put, America is THE greatest country on earth. Just ask all
the people trying to sneak across our boarders! Are they headed to
Canada? Mexico? China??? NO! Just about anyone who has a chance wants
to come to AMERICA!!!
Sure, we have problems, lots of them! But we have the mechanisms
AND THE CULTURE to change! That's a lot harder to do in other countries
where culture and tradition are stronger.
Sure, the Germans coddle their workers. Guess what, they have
labor problems too! And who came up with the personal computer, some
coddled German workers???
No! A bunch of semi-employed and unemployed guys trying to do what
they wanted to do and to hell with the corporations! Apple,
Thinker-Toys, Inc., MITS, IMSAI, Vector Graphics, Processor Technology,
Microsoft... THEY started the computer revolution.
Vector Graphics was two housewives who scammed some memory
companies into selling them chips Net 30, had the chips in boards and
sold with the money in hand when the bill came due!
Over and over and over again, our crazies, yes CRAZIES, took risks
no corporation would dare take, and created technological revolutions!
You think America isn't going to survive???
Horse feathers!!! (I think that was a Marx Brothers movie. Go rent
it.)
This nation will create a lot more revolutions because we have too
many crazy people that we don't know what to do with! Some of them
figure it out, take the risks, and succeed! And some fail. That's the
price of freedom. I had the first web type browser on the market. I
didn't know how to market it, and so I failed.
Would I rather have been a corporate employee at, say IBM?
HELL NO!!! (IBM has been a good client of mine. I enjoy working
projects for them! They really are a great company, don't get me wrong.
But I'm an entrepreneurial character. I want to see what _I_ can do.)
If I hadn't taken the risk, I would forever have kicked myself for
not dong it! That would have destroyed me, my sense of who I am, far,
far worse than where I am now. (My truck is also a Chevy S10, but over
ten years older than yours. It's check light comes on often, the clutch
is making strange noises, etc.)
It matters less that you win or lose, than that INNER SPIRIT you
kindle and develop within for TRYING!!!
It is the TRYING that develops the spirit! Even when you fail!
It does, however, make a lot of difference whether you do your
market research, develop realistic marketing strategies, etc. You learn
these things after a while, often the hard way. It is these things
which let you fail on paper till you find some product that makes sense
to develop and market. Your talking clock just has too much existing
competition.
What I am saying, is don't try blindly. The reason I failed, is
because I didn't do my marketing right. I had health problems which led
me to rely on the wrong people who screwed up a few deals which might
have made one heck of a difference.
Freedom is worth the price of failure. Freedom is the opportunity
to develop your inner spirit! It is the freedom to tell the Dalai Lama,
Stalin, Mao, and others that they are WRONG, and to find ouy whether you
are right. It is the freedom to be wrong and to learn from it without
being executed.
> IF THIS WAS A DICTATORSHIP, IT'D BE A
> HECK OF LOT EASIER... JUST SO LONG
> AS I'M THE DICTATOR.
>
> W.
> (GEORGE W. BUSH)
BULL! He never said that!
What kind of junk are you looking at?
Bush may be no genius; but he is a decent man. A lot more decent
than, say Gore or Kerry. And I think a heck of a lot better than Carter
and Nixon, and probably Johnson, who's presidencies I well remember.
Reagan was the best. Kennedy was rather good too.
America produces people like that. What other country comes even
close???
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 17 02:05:14 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 17 02:05:26 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051016155959.18027.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051017090514.32373.qmail@web402.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:> This site is great! The picture (complete with helicopters,
suggesting advanced knowledge) shows lightning forking together and
curling around itself - an unnatural effect. The included links are
worth saving to disc.
Photographs aside...
-We can't completely disregard the picture. The purpleish glow around the energy field suggests extremely short pulses are being applied. The 'white' energy fountain effect is reminescent of Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter.
There is no question that Tesla was some kind of genius.
However, we have had many geniuses since then and learned far,
far more about the nature of matter and anergy than he could have known.
We have had many geniuses who have thought to look in diverse places for
free energy. We have not, as of yet, found anything really free.
To think there is a conspiracy which could so strangulate human
knowledge boggles the mind. But just as we feared the boogyman under
our beds, only to realize from the consistency of the world that he is
not there; so too, we must realize that the consistency of our economic
world makes a conspiracy of such size utterly impossible.
-When Tesla croaked, federal agents raided his lab and confiscated his papers. If any of these papers are still classified, that would indicate a conspiracy. I've heard both ways.
-The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
-Regarding the Tunguska explosion, some say that Tesla was demonstrating some effect. Recently on Coasttocoastam, a Russian author stated that the tremendous explosion (~50 megatons) could have been caused by "three ball lightnings coming together". And Nikita Kruchev tried to push for an international treaty banning "weapons far worse than nuclear weapons". (The Stalin Papers are still classified.) I think many countries secretely have free energy. Just as many countries have UFO's. And some UFO propulsion methods require so much energy it's likely that some type of free energy effect is being used.
Look at, for example, the airplane. How many others were inventing
ways of flight? We celebrate the Wright Brothers; but there were others
in several countries. Or the light bulb. Was Edison the first? Or the
telephone. We celebrate Alexander Bell; but Gray had a different method,
one with inherent amplification.
So it is unlikely in the extreme that Tesla and Tesla alone could
have conceived something so radically different that no one else could
invent it within a short time.
-The conspiracy is to keep some of the things which he did, and, as you say, others are likely to have replicated and advanced, secret from the public.
One recurrent theme of Tesla's was the wireless distribution of
energy. Given the mind set of the day, I think it more likely that it
is this which made some think that he had a free source of energy.
Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
to steal the thunder of your mind.
-Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However, conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
Jerry
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 06:04:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BRAIN AND MY BODY.
Message-ID: <20051017130357.12493.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
MY BRAIN AND MY
BODY ARE SO TIRED,
USED AND ABUSED,
WORN OUT, AND
OVERSTRESSED.
FINANCIAL ECONOMIC
SLAVERY HAS JUST
GIVEN ME SO MUCH
GRIEF, IN MY LIFE,
AND CONTINUES TO
DO SO.
I SEE NO END IN
SIGHT.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 06:44:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
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Message-ID: <20051017134423.21054.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1995/vp950702/06300675.htm
>
> IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT
> OF AMERICA IN THE FUTURE?
Of course.
> DOES AMERICA HAVE A FUTURE AT ALL?
Of course it does!
> I AM SICK AT MY STOMACH.
We endured the "war to end all wars", liberating Europe then, and
again in the next war, and keeping the sovs at bay with The Cold War. We
endured The Creat Crash,
The Great Depression,
I'M IN A GREAT DEPRESSION RIGHT NOW.
Carter's Stagflation,
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE:
UNDER THE CLINTONS AND THE BUSHES; (OR SHOULD I REVERSE THE ORDER? : UNDER THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS); WE HAVE THE COMBINATION OF HYPER STAGNATION AND HYPER INFLATION, BOTH, EQUALLY, FOR EVERYONE;
HYPER STAG-INFLATION..!
HYPER STAGINFLATION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE AMERICA BE A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY ONCE AGAIN
IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE; INSTEAD OF BEING A SELLOUT TO COMMUNISM, IN CHINA; INSTEAD OF BILLIONS BEING ABSOLUTELY WASTED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST; INSTEAD OF THIS COUNTRY GOING TO MORALITY (OR IS ANTIMORALITY A BETTER WAY
TO PHRASE IT? :) HELL..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 08:40:52 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 08:41:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
In-Reply-To: <20051017134423.21054.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 17, 2005 06:44:23 AM
Message-ID: <20051017154052.56600.qmail@mall-net.com>
> We endured the "war to end all wars", liberating Europe then, and
> again in the next war, and keeping the sovs at bay with The Cold War. We
> endured The Creat Crash,
>
> The Great Depression,
>
> I'M IN A GREAT DEPRESSION RIGHT NOW.
That's a physiological depression, I think; not a
psychological one. Niacin, Thiamine, vitamin C... those can probably
help.
> Carter's Stagflation,
> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE:
> UNDER THE CLINTONS AND THE BUSHES; (OR SHOULD I REVERSE THE ORDER? :
UNDER THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS); WE HAVE THE COMBINATION OF HYPER
STAGNATION AND HYPER INFLATION, BOTH, EQUALLY, FOR EVERYONE; > HYPER
STAG-INFLATION..! > HYPER STAGINFLATION.
Having lived through Carter's stagflation, you have no idea what
you are talking about. Inflation of 0 - 13% (but a lot higher in the
secondary markets), unemployment of 7% (but those unemployed for half a
year are no longer unemployed, they just aren't working; some figure had
it at 25% non-employed, or higher!) Top income rate of 70%. And jut
plain No Hope for a future! The wealthy didn't want to invest in any
enterprises, because nothing had much chance. These were the prime days
of buying antiques and jewelry as hedges against inflation. Those are
NON-PRODUCING assets!!! They make no one rich, only store wealth in the
hopes that inflation will make them worth more, in hopes of finding a
bigger sucker to unload them on in the future, in my opinion.
NO ONE WAS HIRING!!!
American Industry was dying!!! You think this is bad? This is
Nothing!
Then along came a cowboy... a man who spoke to the people of their
own greatness. Reagan made some promises about lowering the tax rates
and a few other things; but mostly, he spoke to the common man, reminded
him how Great America really was, how great We Americans REALLY WERE!!!
The people were so upset with stagflation that Carter lost by an
electorial college landslide! One of the largest to date since George
Washington! The popular vote was highly against Carter too!
Overnight, and it literally was overnight, Industry woke up, started
planning for a future, started hiring designers and programmers. About
a year and a half later, they started hiring production line people.
America had re-awakened.
Iran released the American Hostages minutes after Reagan was
sworn in to office. They were scared they would be nuclear bombed. I
doubt he would have done it, he wasn't the type; but the image and unity
he created was enough to make the other guy blink. And swallow really
hard. Made a lot of other guys blink and swallow really hard!
I didn't have any heros when I was growing up; our family had gone
through enough heroic decisions and actions in WW-II. As I grew up,
heroes were just people who made good decisions and took the right
actions regardless of the price to them. It was just what you did. It
wasn't till I saw what Ronald Reagan did with this nation, that I had a
Real Hero.
A hero is a man who does something great. A REAL Hero is a man who
inspires YOU to do something great with your life!
> I'D LIKE TO SEE AMERICA BE A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY ONCE AGAIN > IF SUCH
IS POSSIBLE; INSTEAD OF BEING A SELLOUT TO COMMUNISM, IN CHINA; INSTEAD
OF BILLIONS BEING ABSOLUTELY WASTED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST; INSTEAD OF THIS
COUNTRY GOING TO MORALITY (OR IS ANTIMORALITY A BETTER WAY
It is difficult to say that Billions are wasted in the Middle
East. In the long term establishing democracies like Iraq to replace
totalitarian states is one of the best investments in humanity that we
can make. You look at what Saddam did, how many of his own people he
tortured and killed, and... ther's no question in my mind that we did the
right thing. The only question _I_ have, is how we could have done it
more effectively.
Remember, if it hadn't been for the Israeli attack on Saddam's
nuclear plant in the 70's, Saddam would be a nuclear terror, would have
used atomic bombs in it's war with Iran, and later Kuwait, Saudi
Arabia, and other nations there. That attack also precipitated the
demise of the old soviet union; but we didn't quite believe where that
one would go till it all fell apart.
I'm glad we took on Iraq. It had to be done. It could have been
done a heck of a lot better... but it had to be done, Bush Sr. should
have done it... Clinton lost the chance, But Bush Jr. saw it through.
America is the wellspring of Democracy on this planet. And the
wellspring of economics, of technology, and many other things.
Yes, we have a future. It's a damned hard future. But it's always
been a damned hard future, for we are always pulling the rest of the
world behind us!
It's us crazy Americans, Mad Scientists, Entrepreneurs, Dreamers,
Doers, and all the rest of us that support these crazies that change the
world.
Being an American, holding American Citizenship, is the greatest
prize anyone can have. Next to doing something with it. Just ask
anyone who votes with his feet, or wishes he or she could.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 08:43:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 08:44:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY BRAIN AND MY BODY.
In-Reply-To: <20051017130357.12493.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 17, 2005 06:03:56 AM
Message-ID: <20051017154355.58455.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MY BRAIN AND MY
> BODY ARE SO TIRED,
> USED AND ABUSED,
> WORN OUT, AND
> OVERSTRESSED.
> FINANCIAL ECONOMIC
> SLAVERY HAS JUST
> GIVEN ME SO MUCH
> GRIEF, IN MY LIFE,
> AND CONTINUES TO
> DO SO.
> I SEE NO END IN
> SIGHT.
So imagine a good end to it, then try to imagine how you got
there. That's the essence of Great problem solving. Imagine the
success, then work backward to imagine how you got there.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 08:54:15 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 08:54:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
In-Reply-To: <20051017154052.56600.qmail@mall-net.com> from
"javilk@mall-net.com" at Oct 17, 2005 03:40:52 PM
Message-ID: <20051017155415.64943.qmail@mall-net.com>
One more thing about Ronald Reagan. We have the image of an
affable man who didn't take himself seriously.
I think Ronald Reagan took himself more than any other President,
both more seriously, and more lightly. He studied himself, what he was
good at, and what he had to farm out to others to do for him.
Ronald Reagan got his start as a life guard. He made a comment
about some drownings at a local park, volunteering to be life guard.
He saved some 78 or more lives over the years he held that job, and
realized that he was a hero in a way that no one could take away form
him. The only question I think he had, was how to best act the role to
keep the role. And he found it -- the decency of his own heart, and
that Christian "do unto others what you wish them to do unto you" ideal.
That's something we all have, and something we can appeal to in just
about every American. He trusted people. By and large that trust is
returned. The good heart is in almost all of us, because unlike many
other countries, we grew up with enough that we could share.
I could write on about Ronald Reagan, but I have to go.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Oct 17 09:52:36 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 09:52:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Solar folklore
Message-ID: <1a4.41acd7cf.308530d4@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/16/2005 1:33:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
After America landed on the moon, the [ethnic-group] peoples
decided to send a team to the sun. Some protested it would be too hot
to land. The would-be astronauts replied that they had a way of taking
care of that, they would land on the sun at night.
I think they are still waiting
Is this a blond joke----------------------------------
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 12:22:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 12:22:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] --
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Message-ID: <20051017192254.65006.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
WELL I HOPE TO GOD; *AND YES I
SAID: GOD..!* .... THAT AMERICA
SURVIVES THE NAZI REGIMES OF
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS,
AND THE COMMUNIST REGIMES
OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION"S"..!
CLYDE
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
One more thing about Ronald Reagan. We have the image of an
affable man who didn't take himself seriously.
I think Ronald Reagan took himself more than any other President,
both more seriously, and more lightly. He studied himself, what he was
good at, and what he had to farm out to others to do for him.
Ronald Reagan got his start as a life guard. He made a comment
about some drownings at a local park, volunteering to be life guard.
He saved some 78 or more lives over the years he held that job, and
realized that he was a hero in a way that no one could take away form
him. The only question I think he had, was how to best act the role to
keep the role. And he found it -- the decency of his own heart, and
that Christian "do unto others what you wish them to do unto you" ideal.
That's something we all have, and something we can appeal to in just
about every American. He trusted people. By and large that trust is
returned. The good heart is in almost all of us, because unlike many
other countries, we grew up with enough that we could share.
I could write on about Ronald Reagan, but I have to go.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 12:26:13 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 12:26:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Solar folklore
In-Reply-To: <1a4.41acd7cf.308530d4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051017192613.97176.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
FUNNY!
THOUGH IT'S GOTTA BE A BLOND JOKE!
CLYDE
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/16/2005 1:33:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mallnet.com writes:
After America landed on the moon, the [ethnic-group] peoples
decided to send a team to the sun. Some protested it would be too hot
to land. The would-be astronauts replied that they had a way of taking
care of that, they would land on the sun at night.
I think they are still waiting
Is this a blond joke----------------------------------
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 12:57:04 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 12:57:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Brain Explorers Digest Number 482.
In-Reply-To: <1129562069.193.61623.m19@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051017195704.50578.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
THIS IS A POSTING THAT I ALSO MADE, TO THE BRAIN EXPLORERS
DISCUSSION WEBSITE, THE OTHER DAY.
NEXT COMES THE POTENTIALS IN BRAINWAVE INTERFACING, WITH
VIDEO AND TELEVISION TECHNOLOGY AS WELL.
MAX HEADROOM WAS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE SCIENCE FICTION
CREATION, EVER PRODUCED; ALONG THE LINES OF COPYING
ONE'S OWN BRAIN, TO PUT INTO A COMPUTER SYSTEM, AND EVEN
THE POTENTIAL OF PUTTING ONES'SELF INTO THE POWERLINES,
AND PUTTING ONES'SELF ONTO THE INTERNET AS WELL.
CLYDE
(ORIGINAL; SLIGHTLY REVISED:)
Brainwave interfacing, with audio and radio technology:
I have contemplated using electromagnetic brainwave entrainment technology,
and audio amplification of my brainwaves; and to also amplify my brainwaves
and to broadcast them over the airwaves, on the air, on my L.P.F.M. micro
broadcast radio station; also; to convert all brainwave thoughts and brainwave
chaos, into audible audio frequency sounds, across the entire audible audio
spectrum, to listen to what the sounds of the brain are, while it is at (thought)
work.
What would brainwave frequencies, converted to audible audio spectrum sound,
sound like?
Would it have chaotic ethereal sound to it? I do not have the financial resources
available to experiment with such possibilities.
If anyone has ever tried such a concept before; I'd like to find out what the results
of the experiment were.
Clyde Lofton
clydelofton@yahoo.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 13:32:59 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 13:33:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog.
In-Reply-To: <20050921012227.94040.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051017203259.47899.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I HATE TICKS WITH THE GODDAMNED HATRED OF HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF.
> I ALSO HATE WASPS, SPIDERS, SNAKES, SCORPIONS, MOSQUITOS, FLEAS,
> CHIGGERS, ANTS, ETC, WITH THE HATRED OF HELL.
Wasps, spiders, snakes and ants I don't kill. I've seen a few
rattlers out here; but they stay away from me, and I stay away from
them. I hope they eat all the mice here.
Most animals are not bad if you are not in their way and don't
bother them. Most insects won't bite you if you don't disturb them.
Mosquitoes on the other hand... The ones that dine on blood (not all
do), those deserve to die.
I STILL HATE EM' ALL..! ; INCLUDING MICE AND RATS AS WELL..!
> OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH FOR TICKS, DURING THE SUMMERTIME.
> Anyone ever test you for Lyme disease? Lyme can cause brain malfuntions.
> things like that. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html
I FINALLY GOT TESTED FOR LYME DISEASE, AND THE RESULTS CAME
BACK NEGATIVE.
I THINK ABOUT MY # 1 PROBLEM IS BRAINSTORMING FAR TOO MUCH,
YET AT THER SAME TIME, HAVING VERY FEW OUTLETS TO EXPRESS
MY CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION; THUS DRIVING UP MY STRESS LEVEL,
TO HYPERTENSION OVERKILL.
> If the connective tissue isn't strong enough, things fall apart.
> One of the things vitamin C does, is to help build connective tissue. 50
> molecules of vitamin C are used to create one molecule of collagen, and
> more are use to repair damage from stress.
VITAMIN C, COLLAGEN, LYSINE, MAGNESIUM, VITAMIN D AND LIQUID
CALCIUM, DISTILLED WATER AND LEMON JUICE, AND OVERALL - A
FULLY HEALTH CONSCIOUS AWARENESS OF HEALTHY EATING; WHICH
INCLUDES ALL OTHER VITAMINS AND MINERALS EQUALLY AS WELL.
Red onions lower blood pressure if eaten in the pound range.
AND HOW ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF GARLIC?
ARE THEY EQUAL, OR BETTER IN EFFECT, RELATIVE TO ONIONS?
> I NEED SOME MAJOR ALTERNATIVE HELP, NOW; RIGHT AWAY; BECAUSE THE
SHYT-STEM HAS NEARLY FAILED ME, AND IF I KEEP GOING THE WAY THAT I AM,
IT WILL ENTIRELY RUIN ME, AND I MIGHT AS WELL START PLANNING A > GRAVE
SITE FOR MYSELF.
ACTUALLY; THE CONVENTION MEDICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE BETRAYED US ALL, EQUALLY..!
Clyde, when you die, you'll have no use for a grave! Graves are for
the living, not the dead. It's the living who want to have a place to
remember you, or think you are safely tucked away so as not to bother
them.
WHEN I DIE; I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FUNERAL.
I AM SICK OF FUNERALS.
I ONLY WISH TO BE BURIED IN CONCRETE, INSIDE OF A WOODEN OR
METAL BOX.
I DO ASK THE LORD THOUGH, THAT MY DEATH BE AS PEACEFUL
AS CAN BE; AND I PRAY FOR GLOBAL PEACE, EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T
HAPPENING.
As for me, when I die, just toss my corpse out with the garbage as
I'll have no more use for it. (Though I'd not mind it nourishing my
favorite tree back home; but only if they don't pump it full of toxic
chemicals in vain effort to preserve it.)
FUNNY!
CONCRETE WOULD BE A GREAT WAY OF PRESERVING MYSELF.
TOO BAD I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A STATUE OF MYSELF MADE,
AND TO HAVE IT INSIDE OF MY OWN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
HERMETICALLY SEALED REALITY, WHERE NATURE AND
TECHNOLOGY LIVE AS ONE; IN ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY
WITH ONE ANOTHER, IN ABSOLUTE PEACE; FOREVER..!
"Do not embalm. Allergic to formaldehyde." (Laughing!)
RIGHT ON!
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 17 14:44:01 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 17 14:44:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Blond joke
Message-ID: <010b01c5d363$e38a6c90$d0c5bc41@mikey>
The young blond cutie was speeding along I-95 in her sugah-daddy-bought Benz
when she was pulled over by the blond SC Highway Patrolwoman.
When asked for her license and registration, she fumbled in her oversized
purse, unable to find her license. So she asked the Trooperess what it
looked like.
"It's rectangular, with your picture on it," replied the blond Trooperess.
"Oh, here it is!" said the speeder, handing the Patrolwoman a mirror.
"Oh, pardon me, ma'am, I didn't realize you were a Law Enforcement officer!"
said the blond Trooper. "Have a nice day, and Drive Safely!"
From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 15:37:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 15:38:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Solar folklore
In-Reply-To: <1a4.41acd7cf.308530d4@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Oct 17,
2005 12:52:36 PM
Message-ID: <20051017223755.93908.qmail@mall-net.com>
> After America landed on the moon, the [ethnic-group] peoples
> decided to send a team to the sun. Some protested it would be too hot
> to land. The would-be astronauts replied that they had a way of taking
> care of that, they would land on the sun at night.
>
> I think they are still waiting
>
>
> Is this a blond joke----------------------------------
this was originally an Eastern European ethnic joke; but why limit
it to any one group?
-J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 15:51:51 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 15:51:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEALTHCARE, INSTEAD OF SICKCARE.
Message-ID: <20051017225151.33454.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
I NEED HEALTHCARE, INSTEAD OF SICKCARE;
EVERYONE DOES!
I GOT THE TERM: SICKCARE FROM WATCHING
THE FAIRLY NEW MOVIE: SUPERSIZE ME.
HAVE ANY OF YOU ALL GOT TO WATCH THAT
MOVIE YET?
IT'S HILARIOUS!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 16:12:36 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 16:12:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051017090514.32373.qmail@web402.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 17, 2005 02:05:14 AM
Message-ID: <20051017231236.11244.qmail@mall-net.com>
> -We can't completely disregard the picture. The purpleish glow around
the energy field suggests extremely short pulses are being applied.
The 'white' energy fountain effect is reminescent of Tesla's Magnifying
Transmitter.
So what?
> -When Tesla croaked, federal agents raided his lab and confiscated his
papers. If any of these papers are still classified, that would
indicate a conspiracy. I've heard both ways.
Why would it indicate a conspiracy? Lots of things are classified.
I've worked with people who handle stuff like that. (Heck of a deal
reproduceing bugs when you can't know what caused the bug, only that
some set of inputs caused some kind of glitch. We were not allowed to
see what our software actually did. It was a fun project, good people,
interesting stuff, etc. All I know, is that there were military people
watching things being done, and some of the uses of the stuff was for
air, and some for underwater. And really, that's all I needed to know.)
I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
time, something which we take for granted today.
Remember, even rocket science isn't rocket science anymore. You go
look it up in the books, or today, go check Google.
> -The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against
free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is
starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's
openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
Why? "When the tide comes in, all boats rise." -Reagan- Anyone
with that kind of energy source would start making money selling
something, either the energy, or if they are a little paranoid, storing
the energy in something like methane, hydrogen, etc.
Any nation with free energy would bloom economically.
And that is enough for any nation with this to start using it.
Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
wrong, because technology generally has multiple uses, which we would
see, multiple supporting allied technologies, which can be identified,.
if developed, plenty of precursors smart folks can find and deduce the
key points of the so-called hidden technology.
Technology is a web; witchcraft is a point.
Free energy would be part of a web, not a point, not for long!
Take nuclear bombs, for instance. The Manhattan project. Plenty,
I mean PLENTY of literature about radioactivity predating that for
decades! Plenty of things that made it obvious that this energy could
be harnessed.
Indeed, Hitler had a thermonuclear arms program, not a mere nuclear
one!
We figured out what he was up to, did the right stuff that he never
got enough heavy water to make his H-Bombs. And Heisenberg screwed the
fusion A bomb project before it even got off the ground.
> Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
>
> -Regarding the Tunguska explosion, some say that Tesla was
demonstrating some effect. Recently on Coasttocoastam, a Russian author
stated that the tremendous explosion (~50 megatons) could have been
caused by "three ball lightnings coming together". And Nikita Kruchev
Hogwash.
...tried to push for an international treaty banning "weapons far worse
than nuclear weapons". (The Stalin Papers are still classified.) I
think many countries secretely have free energy. Just as many countries
have UFO's. And some UFO propulsion methods require so much energy it's
likely that some type of free energy effect is being used.
So what? I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion
could have been a space ship, and other things. That does not make it
so, nor even probable.
> -The conspiracy is to keep some of the things which he did, and, as
you say, others are likely to have replicated and advanced, secret from
the public.
What conspiracy? You have done absolutely nothing to convince
anyone that there is a conspiracy about free energy.
> Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
> imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
> power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
> to steal the thunder of your mind.
>
> -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
Not when you are afraid.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 17:19:02 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 17:19:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051017231236.11244.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051018001903.10258.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
time, something which we take for granted today.
I SAW AN AUDIO BOOK YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AT BARNES AND NOBLE,
ABOUT RICHARD FEYNMAN.
IF I HAD THE MONEY; I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT TO LISTEN TO IT.
Remember, even rocket science isn't rocket science anymore. You go
look it up in the books, or today, go check Google.
YEAH; WE NOW NEED ANTI GRAVITY SCIENCE; COUNTER GRAVITY SCIENCE;
LEVITATION SCIENCE; ANGULAR PROPULSION SCIENCE; OR SOMETHING
OF THAT DESCRIPTIVE / DEFINATIVE NATURE..!
Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
wrong,
NOT NECESSARILY; I DISAGREE.
HAVE YOU SEEN CERTAIN EPISODES OF THE SCIENCE FICTION
TELEVISION SERIES: SLIDERS?
WORLDS WHERE TECHNOLOGIES ARE EITHER LACKING, OR ARE
NONEXISTANT?
PEOPLE ON ALTERNATIVE WORLDS WOULD LOOK AT ADVANCEMENTS,
SUCH AS CELL PHONES AND IPODS, AS MAGIC THINGS.
PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
A LOT OF PEOPLE OF EVEN TODAY'S WORLD WOULD LOOK AT EVEN
THAT AS SOME FORM OF MAGIC..!
because technology generally has multiple uses, which we would
see, multiple supporting allied technologies, which can be identified,.
if developed, plenty of precursors smart folks can find and deduce the
key points of the so-called hidden technology.
Take nuclear bombs, for instance. The Manhattan project. Plenty,
I mean PLENTY of literature about radioactivity predating that for
decades! Plenty of things that made it obvious that this energy could
be harnessed.
AND STILL; THE GREAT RADIO CONTROVERSY GOES ON..!
THERE IS NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVITY (RADIO-ATION); AND THERE IS
NON-NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVITY (RADIO-ATION); AND LIGHT ITSELF IS
THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THE TWO FORMS!
MICROWAVES AND ULTRAVIOLET ARE AT THE BORDERLINE.
SONIC ENERGY, AND AUDIO - LOW FREQUENCY RADIO ENERGY,
ARE BOTH PART OF THE BURIED UNDERGROUND CONTROVERSY IN
THE RADIO SPECTRUM CONTROVERSY.
> Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
YES.
I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion could have been a
space ship,
I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT SAID BEFORE; BUT THE CRASH OF A SPACESHIP WOULD BE A VERY GOOD POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR
THE TUNGUSKA EVENT!
I HAVEN'T READ INTO THE TUNGUSKA EXPLOSION THOUGH, TO KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, TO ARGUE ANY POINT/S ABOUT IT.
and other things. That does not make it so, nor even probable.
> -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
Not when you are afraid.
AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 17:32:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 17 17:32:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018001903.10258.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051018003254.99151.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
YES; BUT ANY FORM OF RADIO TECHNOLOGY EQUALLY
IN THE HANDS OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE COULD HAVE
DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES IF NOT REGULATED
PROPERLY BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT INTO POWER
FOR NECESSARY GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER THE
TECHNOLOGY, AND TECHNOLOGIES..!
THERE ARE MORAL ISSUES INVOLVED IN IT EQUALLY AS
WELL..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 17:40:57 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 17:41:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018001903.10258.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 17, 2005 05:19:02 PM
Message-ID: <20051018004057.52204.qmail@mall-net.com>
> NOT NECESSARILY; I DISAGREE.
> HAVE YOU SEEN CERTAIN EPISODES OF THE SCIENCE FICTION
> TELEVISION SERIES: SLIDERS?
That's not even science fiction, it's movie fiction. Science
fiction has a higher standard of science... sometimes...
> PEOPLE ON ALTERNATIVE WORLDS WOULD LOOK AT ADVANCEMENTS,
> SUCH AS CELL PHONES AND IPODS, AS MAGIC THINGS.
not for long. We can explain radio waves, which just about all
advanced civilizations would have. And with that, the cellular nature of
the beast becomes understandable, etc. It is all simple stuff.
> PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
> A LOT OF PEOPLE OF EVEN TODAY'S WORLD WOULD LOOK AT EVEN
> THAT AS SOME FORM OF MAGIC..!
I've used one. Kids, yes, might view it as magic. Grown ups have
seen it before in science class.
> MICROWAVES AND ULTRAVIOLET ARE AT THE BORDERLINE.
microwaves are on the long side, not what we call nuclear radiation
at all. gamma is high energy waves. Then there is particulate
radiation.
> > Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> > the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> > the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
> YES.
>
> I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion could have been a
> space ship,
>
> I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT SAID BEFORE; BUT THE CRASH OF A SPACESHIP WOULD
BE A VERY GOOD POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR > THE TUNGUSKA EVENT!
Probability is very low. The basis was traces of germanium and some
other odd stuff in the area; but really, we have dust blown all over,
and it is really hard to tell whether we got that germanium from
electronics, or from China, India, or Africa.
> I HAVEN'T READ INTO THE TUNGUSKA EXPLOSION THOUGH, TO KNOW ENOUGH
ABOUT IT, TO ARGUE ANY POINT/S ABOUT IT.
It was a really, really odd phenomenon that we are not sure of even
today.
> > -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
> conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
>
> Not when you are afraid.
>
> AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
Which, when you consider how the brain works, is stupid not to use! I
daydream to solve problems. I take naps to solve problems. I use my
imagination and visualization to probe possibilities, etc. That's all
part of thinking.
Yes, there are scary things one comes up with sometimes, worst
case scenarios. But... when you know what the worst can be, and have
figured out how to deal with it, you are far, far braver!
The only other time, is when I identify the current situation as
non-survivable, and then it's lets have some fun and try to change the
situation. I mean, can I do worse? Probably Not! So lets see what we
can try.
Admittedly most of those were with respect to getting fired, not
murdered; but I have had a few cases where I came rather close to
getting murdered. If you refuse to engage adrenaline, you have the
battle half won, as the other person is scared, high on adrenaline, and
thus Not Very Bright!!!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 17:44:55 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 17:45:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018003254.99151.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 17, 2005 05:32:53 PM
Message-ID: <20051018004455.54147.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> > the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> > the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
>
> YES; BUT ANY FORM OF RADIO TECHNOLOGY EQUALLY
> IN THE HANDS OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE COULD HAVE
> DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES IF NOT REGULATED
> PROPERLY BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT INTO POWER
> FOR NECESSARY GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER THE
> TECHNOLOGY, AND TECHNOLOGIES..!
Why is government control that necessary? We have general rules
about being fair, and that works. Our general rules are mostrly to
fairness, not specific control over technology.
It is only when massive unfairness and lack of responsibility
occur, that the government has to move in to level the playing field.
It dos so rather badly in most cases, listening too much to the peope
with the dollars. Internet being a case in point.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 17 21:06:50 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 17 21:07:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051017231236.11244.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051018040650.31755.qmail@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > -We can't completely disregard the picture. The purpleish glow around
the energy field suggests extremely short pulses are being applied.
The 'white' energy fountain effect is reminescent of Tesla's Magnifying
Transmitter.
So what?
-It indicates to me that someone is using at least one of Tesla's techniques on a very large scale. Why isn't this public knowledge?
> -When Tesla croaked, federal agents raided his lab and confiscated his
papers. If any of these papers are still classified, that would
indicate a conspiracy. I've heard both ways.
Why would it indicate a conspiracy? Lots of things are classified.
-Why are these papers classified, unless they deal with UFO propulsion, force fields, weather control, and free energy?
I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
time, something which we take for granted today.
-Feynman's simplest diagram, the one with two electrons changing direction with a squiggly line between them, isn't generally understood, since the squiggle is actually a spiral - representing longitudinal energy. What has the general public been allowed to know about this kind of energy? Even the common diagrams showing how the electric and magnetic fields change directions with EM propagation are a deliberate misrepresentation, since the magnetic field only flips 90 degrees when the voltage flips 180..
> -The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against
free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is
starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's
openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
Why? "When the tide comes in, all boats rise." -Reagan- Anyone
with that kind of energy source would start making money selling
something, either the energy, or if they are a little paranoid, storing
the energy in something like methane, hydrogen, etc.
-When free energy becomes known, no one will be able to sell energy.
Any nation with free energy would bloom economically.
-Yes, but only after the initial crash during which all energy workers will lose their jobs - gas stations, utylities, etc.
And that is enough for any nation with this to start using it.
-The powers which control the money current prefer to transfer money from the industrialized countries to the oil producers - to combat inflation. The alternative is to raise interest rates again, and that would suppress real estate.
Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
wrong, because technology generally has multiple uses, which we would
see, multiple supporting allied technologies, which can be identified,.
if developed, plenty of precursors smart folks can find and deduce the
key points of the so-called hidden technology.
-Do you feel that free energy should be "every man for himself", with only the smart and industrious benefiting?
> -Regarding the Tunguska explosion, some say that Tesla was
demonstrating some effect. Recently on Coasttocoastam, a Russian author
stated that the tremendous explosion (~50 megatons) could have been
caused by "three ball lightnings coming together". And Nikita Kruchev
Hogwash.
-Why? This guy was trying to tell us that the Russians know something that we don't.
...tried to push for an international treaty banning "weapons far worse
than nuclear weapons". (The Stalin Papers are still classified.) I
think many countries secretely have free energy. Just as many countries
have UFO's. And some UFO propulsion methods require so much energy it's
likely that some type of free energy effect is being used.
So what? I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion
could have been a space ship, and other things. That does not make it
so, nor even probable.
-Right. Eyewitness accounts state that a flaming mass traveling through the atmosphere broke up into two or more parts before the explosion (like the shuttle?), so it could have been a number of things. The important thing is the ball lightnings can release the same amount of energy - reportedly.
> -The conspiracy is to keep some of the things which he did, and, as
you say, others are likely to have replicated and advanced, secret from
the public.
What conspiracy? You have done absolutely nothing to convince
anyone that there is a conspiracy about free energy.
-The movie itself is supposed to provide the evidence.
> Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
> imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
> power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
> to steal the thunder of your mind.
>
> -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
Not when you are afraid.
-I am not afraid of speaking openly. Or of working on anything I choose to work on. -JV
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 17 21:36:00 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 17 21:36:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018001903.10258.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
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clyde lofton wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Remember, even rocket science isn't rocket science anymore. You go
look it up in the books, or today, go check Google.
YEAH; WE NOW NEED ANTI GRAVITY SCIENCE; COUNTER GRAVITY SCIENCE;
LEVITATION SCIENCE; ANGULAR PROPULSION SCIENCE; OR SOMETHING
OF THAT DESCRIPTIVE / DEFINATIVE NATURE..!
-I've already developed Levitation Science and Angular Propulsion Science. With various working prototypes, I've placed this technology into the Public Domain, so anyone can build and use it. I have a Levitation Machine, a Wheel Within a Wheel, a Split Gyroscope, and an Eccentric Cam. Pictures, descriptions, and operational details are online at:
http://www.spaceoffice.us and
http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments
-These systems produce Thrust as a reaction to various mechanical/inertial forces, and this Thrust reaction can go on indefinately. All of these systems are very easy to build.
Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
wrong,
NOT NECESSARILY; I DISAGREE.
HAVE YOU SEEN CERTAIN EPISODES OF THE SCIENCE FICTION
TELEVISION SERIES: SLIDERS?
WORLDS WHERE TECHNOLOGIES ARE EITHER LACKING, OR ARE
NONEXISTANT?
PEOPLE ON ALTERNATIVE WORLDS WOULD LOOK AT ADVANCEMENTS,
SUCH AS CELL PHONES AND IPODS, AS MAGIC THINGS.
PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
A LOT OF PEOPLE OF EVEN TODAY'S WORLD WOULD LOOK AT EVEN
THAT AS SOME FORM OF MAGIC..!
-You can get one for $170 at http://sciencekits.com
Jerry
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 17 21:48:10 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 17 21:48:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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Message-ID: <20051018044810.57790.qmail@web405.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:> > -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
> conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
>
> Not when you are afraid.
>
> AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
Which, when you consider how the brain works, is stupid not to use! I
daydream to solve problems. I take naps to solve problems. I use my
imagination and visualization to probe possibilities, etc. That's all
part of thinking.
Yes, there are scary things one comes up with sometimes, worst
case scenarios. But... when you know what the worst can be, and have
figured out how to deal with it, you are far, far braver!
The only other time, is when I identify the current situation as
non-survivable, and then it's lets have some fun and try to change the
situation. I mean, can I do worse? Probably Not! So lets see what we
can try.
Admittedly most of those were with respect to getting fired, not
murdered; but I have had a few cases where I came rather close to
getting murdered. If you refuse to engage adrenaline, you have the
battle half won, as the other person is scared, high on adrenaline, and
thus Not Very Bright!!!
-And don't forget to talk to your opponents. Talking keeps you from holding your breath, something which will tire you out faster than anything else. As many bar fights and street fights as I've been in, I've never lost. That's because I talk to them while I'm beating them up, (I mean, 'defending' myself) and I never quit until I win.
Jerry
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 17 21:48:25 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 17 21:48:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018040650.31755.qmail@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 17, 2005 09:06:50 PM
Message-ID: <20051018044825.945.qmail@mall-net.com>
> -We can't completely disregard the picture. The purpleish glow around
> the energy field suggests extremely short pulses are being applied.
> The 'white' energy fountain effect is reminescent of Tesla's Magnifying
> Transmitter.
>
> So what?
>
> -It indicates to me that someone is using at least one of Tesla's techniques on a very large scale. Why isn't this public knowledge?
Suggestions are not necessarily facts.
> > -When Tesla croaked, federal agents raided his lab and confiscated his
> papers. If any of these papers are still classified, that would
> indicate a conspiracy. I've heard both ways.
>
> Why would it indicate a conspiracy? Lots of things are classified.
>
> -Why are these papers classified, unless they deal with UFO
propulsion, force fields, weather control, and free energy?
How about missile guidance, remote control bombs, etc.? He did
design quite a few things with military potential. If his designs were
explicit enough, then even today, they might aid errorists, muddy hind
ends, and similar folks.
> I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
> Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
> time, something which we take for granted today.
>
> -Feynman's simplest diagram, the one with two electrons changing
direction with a squiggly line between them, isn't generally understood,
since the squiggle is actually a spiral - representing longitudinal
energy. What has the general public been allowed to know about this
kind of energy? Even the common diagrams showing how the electric and
magnetic fields change directions with EM propagation are a deliberate
misrepresentation, since the magnetic field only flips 90 degrees when
the voltage flips 180..
I don't know anything about this; other than what I've read in
Feynman's own words for the lay public.
> > -The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against
> free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is
> starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's
> openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
>
> Why? "When the tide comes in, all boats rise." -Reagan- Anyone
> with that kind of energy source would start making money selling
> something, either the energy, or if they are a little paranoid, storing
> the energy in something like methane, hydrogen, etc.
>
> -When free energy becomes known, no one will be able to sell energy.
So?
Now think of how things go. Most common folks can't build this
stuff and don't want to be responsible for it. I mean, it might be
radioactive, new-clear, or even nucular! So yes, you CAN still sell
energy! And your production costs are no longer being fed to the Arabs.
Or you can sell the equipment to make the energy to those early
folks who are willing to take responsibility for their own lives. I
mean, the guys who really came out ahead in the gold rush, were the
folks supplying the rushing maniacs. Same for the computer and internet
rushes.
And then too, consider how the railroad companies brought on the
air age. By not providing good transportation service. The airlines
came into being because there was this air technology. The train
companies just ignored it till it was too late! They could not suppress
it; and they had a LOT of clout in those days! Same for the automobile.
> Any nation with free energy would bloom economically.
>
> -Yes, but only after the initial crash during which all energy workers
will lose their jobs - gas stations, utilities, etc.
When has that caused any democratic government to ban a
technology??? You can't ban technology! People discover it, and the
government is too confused to know what's going on for the first five
years anyway!
> And that is enough for any nation with this to start using it.
>
> -The powers which control the money current prefer to transfer money
from the industrialized countries to the oil producers - to combat
inflation. The alternative is to raise interest rates again, and that
would suppress real estate.
That's bull crap. Total bull crap!
If America started booming again, the money folks would find
themselves much richer!
> Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
> technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
> wrong, because technology generally has multiple uses, which we would
> see, multiple supporting allied technologies, which can be identified,.
> if developed, plenty of precursors smart folks can find and deduce the
> key points of the so-called hidden technology.
>
> -Do you feel that free energy should be "every man for himself", with
only the smart and industrious benefiting?
Yep. that's the way all revolutions are. that's how the computer
revolution started, how the cold fusion revolution started, etc. (Cold
fusion just didn't get hot enough.) The internet boom too!
> > -Regarding the Tunguska explosion, some say that Tesla was
> demonstrating some effect. Recently on Coasttocoastam, a Russian author
> stated that the tremendous explosion (~50 megatons) could have been
> caused by "three ball lightnings coming together". And Nikita Kruchev
>
> Hogwash.
>
> -Why? This guy was trying to tell us that the Russians know something
that we don't.
Just another guy trying to sell his book to make some money.
> ...tried to push for an international treaty banning "weapons far worse
> than nuclear weapons". (The Stalin Papers are still classified.) I
> think many countries secretely have free energy. Just as many countries
> have UFO's. And some UFO propulsion methods require so much energy it's
> likely that some type of free energy effect is being used.
>
> So what? I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion
> could have been a space ship, and other things. That does not make it
> so, nor even probable.
>
> -Right. Eyewitness accounts state that a flaming mass traveling
through the atmosphere broke up into two or more parts before the
explosion (like the shuttle?), so it could have been a number of things.
The important thing is the ball lightnings can release the same amount
of energy - reportedly.
First, any meteor, cometary fragment, etc. could have done the same.
As to ball lightning, it would have to be HUGE balls of lightning!
Highly unlikely they could have existed that way -- where would the
energy have come from???
> > -The conspiracy is to keep some of the things which he did, and, as
> you say, others are likely to have replicated and advanced, secret from
> the public.
>
> What conspiracy? You have done absolutely nothing to convince
> anyone that there is a conspiracy about free energy.
>
> -The movie itself is supposed to provide the evidence
I've seen a lot of movies, read a lot of books on stuff that didn't
deliver.
> > Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
> > imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
> > power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
> > to steal the thunder of your mind.
> >
>
> > -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
> conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
>
> Not when you are afraid.
>
> -I am not afraid of speaking openly. Or of working on anything I choose to work on. -JV
Good for you. Just please, provide some evidence for your wild
speculations. After all, this is supposed to be mad SCIENTISTS, not mad
speculators. (Even if we do stray an awful lot.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 17 22:44:04 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 17 22:44:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018044825.945.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051018054404.43287.qmail@web412.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:> -We can't completely disregard the picture. The purpleish glow around
> the energy field suggests extremely short pulses are being applied.
> The 'white' energy fountain effect is reminescent of Tesla's Magnifying
> Transmitter.
>
> So what?
>
> -It indicates to me that someone is using at least one of Tesla's techniques on a very large scale. Why isn't this public knowledge?
Suggestions are not necessarily facts.
-This kind of glow doesn't occur in nature. That's a fact, as far as I know. Also, natural lightning doesn't fork together and curl around itself, although I have made forking together sparks with a cymbol suspended closely above a VDG.
> > -When Tesla croaked, federal agents raided his lab and confiscated his
> papers. If any of these papers are still classified, that would
> indicate a conspiracy. I've heard both ways.
>
> Why would it indicate a conspiracy? Lots of things are classified.
>
> -Why are these papers classified, unless they deal with UFO
propulsion, force fields, weather control, and free energy?
How about missile guidance, remote control bombs, etc.? He did
design quite a few things with military potential. If his designs were
explicit enough, then even today, they might aid errorists, muddy hind
ends, and similar folks.
-So would free energy.
> I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
> Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
> time, something which we take for granted today.
>
> -Feynman's simplest diagram, the one with two electrons changing
direction with a squiggly line between them, isn't generally understood,
since the squiggle is actually a spiral - representing longitudinal
energy. What has the general public been allowed to know about this
kind of energy? Even the common diagrams showing how the electric and
magnetic fields change directions with EM propagation are a deliberate
misrepresentation, since the magnetic field only flips 90 degrees when
the voltage flips 180..
I don't know anything about this; other than what I've read in
Feynman's own words for the lay public.
> > -The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against
> free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is
> starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's
> openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
>
> Why? "When the tide comes in, all boats rise." -Reagan- Anyone
> with that kind of energy source would start making money selling
> something, either the energy, or if they are a little paranoid, storing
> the energy in something like methane, hydrogen, etc.
>
> -When free energy becomes known, no one will be able to sell energy.
So?
Now think of how things go. Most common folks can't build this
stuff and don't want to be responsible for it. I mean, it might be
radioactive, new-clear, or even nucular! So yes, you CAN still sell
energy! And your production costs are no longer being fed to the Arabs.
Or you can sell the equipment to make the energy to those early
folks who are willing to take responsibility for their own lives. I
mean, the guys who really came out ahead in the gold rush, were the
folks supplying the rushing maniacs. Same for the computer and internet
rushes.
And then too, consider how the railroad companies brought on the
air age. By not providing good transportation service. The airlines
came into being because there was this air technology. The train
companies just ignored it till it was too late! They could not suppress
it; and they had a LOT of clout in those days! Same for the automobile.
-These are some very good points. Those who can't build or buy will have to stay on the grid and buy gasoline. But Ed Gray met his demise right after he tried to horn in on the utylities. (He wanted to use his free energy motor to run their generators.) But, of course, this might have been a coincidence.
> Any nation with free energy would bloom economically.
>
> -Yes, but only after the initial crash during which all energy workers
will lose their jobs - gas stations, utilities, etc.
When has that caused any democratic government to ban a
technology??? You can't ban technology! People discover it, and the
government is too confused to know what's going on for the first five
years anyway!
> And that is enough for any nation with this to start using it.
>
> -The powers which control the money current prefer to transfer money
from the industrialized countries to the oil producers - to combat
inflation. The alternative is to raise interest rates again, and that
would suppress real estate.
That's bull crap. Total bull crap!
-Of the four known ways to reduce entropy, one of the easiest is to transfer (financial) energy to an external system. And inflation is a form of entropy. As long as more and more of our dollars are transferred offshore, there will be less excess in our ecconomy to cause inflation. The alternative is the same thing they did before when inflation hit double digits: raise the prime rate to 21%. Who can afford a mortgage at that rate? Which is worse, high gas prices or massive layoffs in the construction industry?
If America started booming again, the money folks would find
themselves much richer!
-Right. And it will start booming again.
> Arthur Clarke made the statement that any sufficiently advanced
> technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft. In that he was dead
> wrong, because technology generally has multiple uses, which we would
> see, multiple supporting allied technologies, which can be identified,.
> if developed, plenty of precursors smart folks can find and deduce the
> key points of the so-called hidden technology.
>
> -Do you feel that free energy should be "every man for himself", with
only the smart and industrious benefiting?
Yep. that's the way all revolutions are. that's how the computer
revolution started, how the cold fusion revolution started, etc. (Cold
fusion just didn't get hot enough.) The internet boom too!
-Well, I for one am looking out for myself. But I'm willing to help others at the same time. And the first shot has already been fired, as my burnt out motor home shows.
> > -Regarding the Tunguska explosion, some say that Tesla was
> demonstrating some effect. Recently on Coasttocoastam, a Russian author
> stated that the tremendous explosion (~50 megatons) could have been
> caused by "three ball lightnings coming together". And Nikita Kruchev
>
> Hogwash.
>
> -Why? This guy was trying to tell us that the Russians know something
that we don't.
Just another guy trying to sell his book to make some money.
-Could be. But he did say the Russians wanted something in return, and technology exchange is a business I'm in. They give me something, I'll give them something of equal value.
> ...tried to push for an international treaty banning "weapons far worse
> than nuclear weapons". (The Stalin Papers are still classified.) I
> think many countries secretely have free energy. Just as many countries
> have UFO's. And some UFO propulsion methods require so much energy it's
> likely that some type of free energy effect is being used.
>
> So what? I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion
> could have been a space ship, and other things. That does not make it
> so, nor even probable.
>
> -Right. Eyewitness accounts state that a flaming mass traveling
through the atmosphere broke up into two or more parts before the
explosion (like the shuttle?), so it could have been a number of things.
The important thing is the ball lightnings can release the same amount
of energy - reportedly.
First, any meteor, cometary fragment, etc. could have done the same.
-Not necessarily. The information I've read said it would have to contain anti-matter to release that much energy.
As to ball lightning, it would have to be HUGE balls of lightning!
Highly unlikely they could have existed that way -- where would the
energy have come from???
-The energy comes from cohereing the active vacuum. And the balls wouldn't have to be more than a meter in diameter, each with around 504 megaJoules at the start.
> > -The conspiracy is to keep some of the things which he did, and, as
> you say, others are likely to have replicated and advanced, secret from
> the public.
>
> What conspiracy? You have done absolutely nothing to convince
> anyone that there is a conspiracy about free energy.
>
> -The movie itself is supposed to provide the evidence
I've seen a lot of movies, read a lot of books on stuff that didn't
deliver.
-Same here. I don't think I'll donate.
> > Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
> > imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
> > power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
> > to steal the thunder of your mind.
> >
>
> > -Yes, a boogyman has no power without your attention. However,
> conspiracies incite our imagination, giving US the power to discover.
>
> Not when you are afraid.
>
> -I am not afraid of speaking openly. Or of working on anything I choose to work on. -JV
Good for you. Just please, provide some evidence for your wild
speculations. After all, this is supposed to be mad SCIENTISTS, not mad
speculators. (Even if we do stray an awful lot.)
-The only evidence I need is that the magnetic field flips 90 degrees when the electric field flips 180. See if you can find that in a textbook.
-But you're right; and I really AM a Mad Scientist. But not because of idle speculations.
-Speaking of coverups, I found an Inertial Propulsion forum at the Inter-Corporate.com web site which had been inactive for a few months. So I posted some of my proven results, to encourage them to keep experimenting. Right after that, four other guys showed up, adamantly ignoring any evidence that anyone had ever produced Inertial Propulsion, and periodically saying so. Since then, they've added a thousand posts, mostly irrelevant and defeatist, completely burying my information. The KeelyNet Interactive forum recently went down, within minutes after my post revealing the breakthrough secret. And I also had the last post at the FreeNRG list on EScribe, before their server 'smoked'. But I'm only on this list for a while, and I'll be careful what I say.
Jerry
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 06:02:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018044825.945.qmail@mall-net.com>
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> So what? I've read some book about how the Tunguska explosion
> could have been a space ship, and other things. That does not make it
> so, nor even probable.
>
> -Right. Eyewitness accounts state that a flaming mass traveling
through the atmosphere broke up into two or more parts before the
explosion (like the shuttle?), so it could have been a number of things.
The important thing is the ball lightnings can release the same amount
of energy - reportedly.
First, any meteor, cometary fragment, etc. could have done the same.
As to ball lightning, it would have to be HUGE balls of lightning!
Highly unlikely they could have existed that way -- where would the
energy have come from???
UH; FROM PHOTON TORPEDOS FROM THE ENTERPRISE, OR A KLINGON
WARSHIP; OR FROM A STAR WARS BATTLE CRUISER???
???
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 06:26:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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thrustmeister wrote: javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> -Why are these papers classified, unless they deal with UFO
propulsion, force fields, weather control, and free energy?
How about missile guidance, remote control bombs, etc.? He did
design quite a few things with military potential. If his designs were
explicit enough, then even today, they might aid
errorists,
ERRORISTS?
OR TERRORISTS?
HA HA; SORT OF JOKING..!
muddy hind
ends, and similar folks.
-So would free energy.
> I've read and seen some of Tesla's models, etc. And some of
> Feynman's stuff as well. Each had something that was advanced for their
> time, something which we take for granted today.
>
> -Feynman's simplest diagram, the one with two electrons changing
direction with a squiggly line between them, isn't generally understood,
since the squiggle is actually a spiral - representing longitudinal
energy. What has the general public been allowed to know about this
kind of energy? Even the common diagrams showing how the electric and
magnetic fields change directions with EM propagation are a deliberate
misrepresentation, since the magnetic field only flips 90 degrees when
the voltage flips 180..
I don't know anything about this; other than what I've read in
Feynman's own words for the lay public.
> > -The consistency of our economic world mandates a conspiracy against
> free energy. However, just as with UFO's, this energy conspiracy is
> starting to loosen up, especially considering main stream science's
> openly embracing ZPE theory for the past 3 decades.
>
> Why? "When the tide comes in, all boats rise." -Reagan- Anyone
> with that kind of energy source would start making money selling
> something, either the energy, or if they are a little paranoid, storing
> the energy in something like methane, hydrogen, etc.
>
> -When free energy becomes known, no one will be able to sell energy.
So?
Now think of how things go. Most common folks can't build this
stuff and don't want to be responsible for it.
YES; THAT'S CORRECT.
I mean, it might be radioactive, new-clear, or even nucular!
LIKE GEORGE BUSH CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE NU - CLEE - EHR , AS IT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE PRONOUNCED!
GEORGE BUSH SAYS IT: NU - CUE - LER.
So yes, you CAN still sell energy! And your production costs are no longer
being fed to the Arabs.
YES..!
MADE IN AMERICA..!
THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THIS COUNTRY..!
LIKE LIEUTENANT DAN SAYS, IN THE MOVIE; FOREST GUMP: GOD DAMN
BLESS AMERICA!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 06:38:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018004455.54147.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051018133815.88485.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> > the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> > the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
>
> YES; BUT ANY FORM OF RADIO TECHNOLOGY EQUALLY
> IN THE HANDS OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE COULD HAVE
> DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES IF NOT REGULATED
> PROPERLY BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT INTO POWER
> FOR NECESSARY GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER THE
> TECHNOLOGY, AND TECHNOLOGIES..!
>
Why is government control that necessary?
BECAUSE; AS I DIDN'T THINK OF ALSO MENTIONING LAST NIGHT:
NOT ONLY ARE THERE MORAL ISSUES INVOLVED; THERE ARE SAFETY
ISSUES INVOLVED EQUALLY AS WELL..!
1. MORALITY ISSUES..!
2. SAFETY ISSUES..!
We have general rules about being fair, and that works. Our general rules are
mostly to fairness, not specific control over technology.
I DON'T KNOW; BUT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS CERATINLY A VERY UNFAIR
TOWN;
OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
It is only when massive unfairness and lack of responsibility
occur, that the government has to move in to level the playing field.
MAYBE THAT IS WHY SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 OCCURED....
It does so rather badly in most cases,
MAYBE THAT IS WHY SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 OCCURED....
listening too much to the people with the dollars. Internet being a case in point.
YEAH; THE N.A.B. (THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS)
HAVE HAD SUCH A LARGE LOBBY, THAT THEY CRUSHED THE POTENTIAL
FOR WIDESPREAD SMALL BUSINESS USEAGE BY THE LITTLE MAN, FOR
USING L.P.F.M. (LOW POWER F.M.) AS A PUBLIC SERVICE BY AND FOR
THE PEOPLE...!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 06:45:14 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MIGHTY MOUSE SONG LYRICS; BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
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MIGHTY MOUSE SONG LYRICS; BY: TESLA (THE BAND):
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 07:37:44 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 07:37:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> NOT NECESSARILY; I DISAGREE.
> HAVE YOU SEEN CERTAIN EPISODES OF THE SCIENCE FICTION
> TELEVISION SERIES: SLIDERS?
That's not even science fiction, it's movie fiction. Science
fiction has a higher standard of science... sometimes...
HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED ANY EPISODES OF SLIDERS BEFORE???
IT IS TELEVISION SERIES SCIENCE FICTION; LIKE STAR TREK!
> PEOPLE ON ALTERNATIVE WORLDS WOULD LOOK AT ADVANCEMENTS,
> SUCH AS CELL PHONES AND IPODS, AS MAGIC THINGS.
not for long. We can explain radio waves,
ARE YOU SO SHURE ABOUT THAT?
MY GRANDFATHER HAS DESCRIBED RADIO WAVES AS WAVICLES!
POSESSING BOTH THE PROPERTIES OF WAVES AND PARTICLES AT
THE SAME TIME, SIMULTANEOUSLY.
which just about all advanced civilizations would have. And with that, the cellular nature of the beast becomes understandable, etc. It is all simple stuff.
> PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
> A LOT OF PEOPLE OF EVEN TODAY'S WORLD WOULD LOOK AT EVEN
> THAT AS SOME FORM OF MAGIC..!
I've used one.
I'VE DREAMED OF OWNING ONE FOR A LONG TIME NOW.
Kids, yes, might view it as magic.
YES.
Grown ups have seen it before in science class.
NOT ALL GROWN UPS!
UNEDUCATED GROWNUPS, AND HANDICAPPED GROWNUPS MIGHT
THINK OF SOMETHING MAGICAL HAPPENING WITH A PORTABLE
HANDHELD TESLA COIL, LIKE THE ONE THAT JACK NICHOLSON USES,
IN THE MOVIE: ANGER MANAGEMENT.
> MICROWAVES AND ULTRAVIOLET ARE AT THE BORDERLINE.
microwaves are on the long side, not what we call nuclear radiation
at all.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY SO MANY FOLKS USE THE PHRASE OF NUKING
THEIR FOOD, WHEN USING THE MICROWAVE OVEN?
IT IS AT THE BORDERLINE OF NUCLEAR PARTICULATE RADIATION..!
AS FOR CONVENTIONAL COOKING OVENS ON THE OTHER HAND; THEY
COOK FOODS USING E.L.F RADIATION HEAT.
MICROWAVE OVENS USE H.F. HEAT, TO COOK THE FOODS..!
H.F. (HIGH FREQUENCY) HEAT, IS NOT HEALTHY..!
gamma is high energy waves.
YEAH, SO?
Then there is particulate radiation.
YES..!
THERE IS PARTICULATE, AND THERE IS NUCLEAR PARTICULATE..!
THE DIFFERENCE IS IN FREQUENCY;
IF THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT WAS INDEED A TRUE CONSTANT; THE ONLY
COLOR THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD BE ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT
ONLY; AND NO OTHER COLOR IN THE SPECTRUM WOULD EVEN EXIST;
THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXISTANCE OF A SPECTRUM IN THE
CASE OF AN EXISTANCE OF ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT ONLY..!
NON-NUCLEAR, AND NUCLEAR..!
ALPHA VS. OMEGA..!
IS GOD THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM?
DOES GOD EVEN EXIST?
> AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
YEAH; MOST PEOPLE ARE BRAIN DEAD TO HIGHER THINKING
PROCESSES OR THEY ARE AT LEAST NEARLY HALF BRAIN DEAD;
LIKE MY BIMBO MOTHER....
Which, when you consider how the brain works, is stupid not to use!
YES!
I daydream to solve problems. I take naps to solve problems. I use my
imagination and visualization to probe possibilities, etc. That's all
part of thinking.
YES; USING OUR BRAINS TO THINK, AND TO BRAINSTORM!
BRAINSTORMING IS NOT 'A MENTAL -' (AN ENVIRONMENTAL
ILLNESS)!
Yes, there are scary things one comes up with sometimes, worst
case scenarios. But... when you know what the worst can be, and have
figured out how to deal with it, you are far, far braver!
YES; LIKE RAPPER TUPAC SAYS, IN PART OF SOME OF HIS SONG
LYRICS: THAT WHICH CANNOT KILL ME CAN ONLY MAKE ME
STRONGER!
I THINK THAT HAS BEEN SAID BY MANY OTHER FOLKS TOO, AND NOT
JUST FROM TUPAC SHAKUR ALONE.
The only other time, is when I identify the current situation as non-survivable,
and then it's lets have some fun and try to change the situation.
YEAH; LIKE IF I MOVED TO COLORAFUL COLORADO, ENTIRELY
UNPREPARED TO MAKE IT ON MY OWN....
I SEE NO LIFE SUPPORT STRUCTURE UP THERE FOR ME TO LIVE HAPPY
AND FREE, WITHOUT MOUNTAINLOADS OF MONEY..!
I NEED HEALTH AND PEACE.
SO FAR IN THIS RUN DOWN SLUM OF ALSUMA TULSA OKLAHOMA, UNDER
THE OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED DICTATORSHIT, OF ONION (UNION)
FASCIST COMMUNIST SCHOOLS; HEALTH AND PEACE AND PROSPERITY
ARE FLOPPING FAILURES..!
THE PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM (SHYTSTEM) SUCKS!
I mean, can I do worse? Probably Not! So let's see what we
can try.
OK.
Admittedly most of those were with respect to getting fired, not
murdered; but I have had a few cases where I came rather close to
getting murdered. If you refuse to engage adrenaline, you have the
battle half won, as the other person is scared, high on adrenaline, and
thus Not Very Bright!!!
YEAH.
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 17 13:35:43 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Oct 18 08:55:37 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New Orleans floodwater toxicity report in
Environmental Science Technology
Message-ID: <010501c5d35a$5a18f6b0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Environ. Sci. Technol., ASAP Article 10.1021/es0518631 S0013-936X(05)01863-8
Web Release Date: October 11, 2005
Copyright ? 2005 American Chemical Society
Chemical and Microbiological Parameters in New Orleans Floodwater Following
Hurricane Katrina
J. H. Pardue,* W. M. Moe, D. McInnis, L. J. Thibodeaux, K. T. Valsaraj, E.
Maciasz, I. van Heerden, N. Korevec, and Q. Z. Yuan
Received for review September 20, 2005
Revised manuscript received September 27, 2005
Accepted September 29, 2005
Abstract:
Hurricane Katrina, rated as a Category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
scale, made landfall on the U. S. Gulf Coast near New Orleans, Louisiana on
Monday, August 29, 2005. The storm brought heavy winds and rain to the city,
and several levees intended to protect New Orleans from the water of Lake
Pontchartrain were breached. Consequently, up to 80% of the city was flooded
with water reaching depths in excess of three meters in some locations.
Research described in this paper was conducted to provide an initial
assessment of contaminants present in floodwaters shortly after the storm
and to characterize water pumped out of the city into Lake Pontchartrain
once dewatering operations began several days after the storm. Data are
presented which demonstrate that during the weeks following the storm,
floodwater was brackish and well-buffered with very low concentrations of
volatile and semivolatile organic pollutants. Dissolved oxygen was depleted
in surface floodwater, averaging 1.6 mg/L in the Lakeview district and 4.8
mg/L in the Mid-City district. Dissolved oxygen was absent (<0.02 mg/L) at
the bottom of the floodwater column in the Mid-City district 9 days after
the storm. Chemical oxygen demand (Mid-City average = 79.9 mg/L) and fecal
coliform bacteria (Mid-City average = 1.4 ? 105 MPN/100 mL) were elevated in
surface floodwater but typical of stormwater runoff in the region. Lead,
arsenic, and in some cases, chromium, exceeded drinking water standards but
with the exception of some elevated Pb concentrations generally were typical
of stormwater. Data suggest that what distinguishes Hurricane Katrina
floodwater is the large volume and the human exposure to these pollutants
that accompanied the flood, rather than very elevated concentrations of
toxic pollutants.
Full peer-reviewed journal article:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es0518631.html
or: http://snipurl.com/inbo
From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 18 09:21:45 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 09:21:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018133815.88485.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 06:38:15 AM
Message-ID: <20051018162145.28881.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > > Surely, if something simple enough for Tesla to discover existed,
> > > the soviets or the Chinese would have discovered it and exploited it to
> > > the fullest for their needs. As would have others! Many others!
> >
> > YES; BUT ANY FORM OF RADIO TECHNOLOGY EQUALLY
> > IN THE HANDS OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE COULD HAVE
> > DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES IF NOT REGULATED
> > PROPERLY BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT INTO POWER
> > FOR NECESSARY GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER THE
> > TECHNOLOGY, AND TECHNOLOGIES..!
> >
>
> Why is government control that necessary?
>
> BECAUSE; AS I DIDN'T THINK OF ALSO MENTIONING LAST NIGHT:
>
> NOT ONLY ARE THERE MORAL ISSUES INVOLVED; THERE ARE SAFETY
> ISSUES INVOLVED EQUALLY AS WELL..!
>
> 1. MORALITY ISSUES..!
What, teledildonics? Or just advertising of female underwear?
Those are commercial issues. Are those moral issues too?
Imagine yourself landing on Earth without any prior experience. Or
maybe you are the Emperor of Japan circa 1492.
You walk into a modern five and dime.... and what do you see?
Attractive female legs sticking into the air with pantyhose on them.
What the???
Is that a morality issue???
Or just a contextual lunacy issue?
But how else are you going to sell them?
> 2. SAFETY ISSUES..!
People like safety. They tend, on hearing about those things, to
take care themselves. And those who don't... there's a word for that,
it's evolution. And the Darwin Prize for those especially dumb. Like
the kid who tried to get high by oxygenating his lower alimentary tract
in some Asian country, and ended up with an explosion that scattered him
about the block, much to the distress of his buddies and relatives. (I
gather they didn't find all the pieces.)
> We have general rules about being fair, and that works. Our general rules are
> mostly to fairness, not specific control over technology.
>
> I DON'T KNOW; BUT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS CERATINLY A VERY UNFAIR
> TOWN; OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
Do you vote? Have you started any petitions? Have you signed any
petitions??? That's one time honored way of going about this.
> It is only when massive unfairness and lack of responsibility
> occur, that the government has to move in to level the playing field.
>
> MAYBE THAT IS WHY SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 OCCURED....
911 was the statement of an egomaniac willing to sacrifice his own
people just to build up his ego; to be able to be thought of as a
dangerous and important person in charge of something.
If that rear sphincter really wanted to be important, really wanted
to help his people; he would be building schools and hospitals, not
screwing around killing people, inspiring others to kill his people and
even encouraging his own people to kill themselves and take others with
them. Is this religion he's promoting? No! From what I hear and know,
it does not match what the Koran advocates. It's his own twisted ego
he's promoting!
> listening too much to the people with the dollars. Internet being a case in point.
>
> YEAH; THE N.A.B. (THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS)
> HAVE HAD SUCH A LARGE LOBBY, THAT THEY CRUSHED THE POTENTIAL
> FOR WIDESPREAD SMALL BUSINESS USEAGE BY THE LITTLE MAN, FOR
> USING L.P.F.M. (LOW POWER F.M.) AS A PUBLIC SERVICE BY AND FOR
> THE PEOPLE...!
Yep. In a way. But...
But that's not the only reason. How do you pay for such an
operation? Advertising. How do you get enough advertising?
I do know that most merchants would rather buy advertising from a
few sources, than have to go out and find all those little operators,
or have to deal with all those little operations finding and pestering
them.
So it seems to me that the basic business viability really isn't
there. And a lot of people would start, run, shell out a lot of money
over time; but ultimately fail to make money. It's not a full time
occupation, it's a hobby.
Who is going to run these stations?
People with axes to grind as well as hobbyists.
What kind of monitoring is going to be required?
Music is copyright. You need permission to play it.
News has to be truthful. And copyrighted. You need permission to
read it from the newspapers.
So what are you going to do? Make up your own news, slant it to
your own tastes? Make up your own music? And how are you going to sell
the advertising? Will you actually deliver???
It just breaks down to requiring an army of Federal agents to
patrol the whole thing, arresting operators left and right for copyright
violations, dealing with people complaining about being defamed on the
air waves, etc.
"News Flash! Mrs Shcrodinger's Cat pooped on my stoop again. This
monstrous animal with an ego the size of Bin Laden is a threat to the
sanity of any one living on Fifth and Elms streets. We must band
together to shove this cat and it's disgraceful owner out of our
neighborhood!"
Remember what happened when Orson Wells read "War of the Worlds"
on radio? People were scared witless! Guys went out and shot up water
towers, thinking they were Martian War Machines!
How many kids are going to do that again, just for the sake of
doing it and scaring Mrs. Schrodinger out of her wits???
And what if there is no Mrs. Schroedinger? What if it's all a
poop-on just to be able to poop on the air waves?
I can see their point. Sure, there are freedom of speech issues as
well. It's not a clean cut case.
But what would you be doing, Clyde? Defaming Tulsa on your
broadcasts? You'd get a lot of people angry with that. You might even
foment riots.
It's an interesting path for too many Hitleresque ego-maniacs to
start their rise, challenging the government, the sane order of things,
etc. Vanity press and Vanity Web is bad enough.
But who knows, it might be interesting.
What you can do, is create web pages and printouts to hand out to
people on the street, like some of the doomsayer preachers do, and see
what the reaction is. It won't be good! But you will see that first
hand how many people agree, and now many disagree. Just dont' start
any riots, Clyde; that's bad for the karma.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 09:39:00 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Tue Oct 18 09:56:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New Orleans floodwater toxicity report in
Environmental Science Technology
In-Reply-To: <010501c5d35a$5a18f6b0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051018163901.41417.qmail@web51906.mail.yahoo.com>
MB,
Perhaps my wife and I should postpone our semi-planned
trip to the Big Easy...
Bob
--- Michael Best wrote:
> Environ. Sci. Technol., ASAP Article
> 10.1021/es0518631 S0013-936X(05)01863-8
>
> Web Release Date: October 11, 2005
>
> Copyright ? 2005 American Chemical Society
>
>
>
> Chemical and Microbiological Parameters in New
> Orleans Floodwater Following
> Hurricane Katrina
>
> J. H. Pardue,* W. M. Moe, D. McInnis, L. J.
> Thibodeaux, K. T. Valsaraj, E.
> Maciasz, I. van Heerden, N. Korevec, and Q. Z. Yuan
>
> Received for review September 20, 2005
>
> Revised manuscript received September 27, 2005
>
> Accepted September 29, 2005
>
> Abstract:
>
> Hurricane Katrina, rated as a Category 4 hurricane
> on the Saffir-Simpson
> scale, made landfall on the U. S. Gulf Coast near
> New Orleans, Louisiana on
> Monday, August 29, 2005. The storm brought heavy
> winds and rain to the city,
> and several levees intended to protect New Orleans
> from the water of Lake
> Pontchartrain were breached. Consequently, up to 80%
> of the city was flooded
> with water reaching depths in excess of three meters
> in some locations.
> Research described in this paper was conducted to
> provide an initial
> assessment of contaminants present in floodwaters
> shortly after the storm
> and to characterize water pumped out of the city
> into Lake Pontchartrain
> once dewatering operations began several days after
> the storm. Data are
> presented which demonstrate that during the weeks
> following the storm,
> floodwater was brackish and well-buffered with very
> low concentrations of
> volatile and semivolatile organic pollutants.
> Dissolved oxygen was depleted
> in surface floodwater, averaging 1.6 mg/L in the
> Lakeview district and 4.8
> mg/L in the Mid-City district. Dissolved oxygen was
> absent (<0.02 mg/L) at
> the bottom of the floodwater column in the Mid-City
> district 9 days after
> the storm. Chemical oxygen demand (Mid-City average
> = 79.9 mg/L) and fecal
> coliform bacteria (Mid-City average = 1.4 ? 105
> MPN/100 mL) were elevated in
> surface floodwater but typical of stormwater runoff
> in the region. Lead,
> arsenic, and in some cases, chromium, exceeded
> drinking water standards but
> with the exception of some elevated Pb
> concentrations generally were typical
> of stormwater. Data suggest that what distinguishes
> Hurricane Katrina
> floodwater is the large volume and the human
> exposure to these pollutants
> that accompanied the flood, rather than very
> elevated concentrations of
> toxic pollutants.
>
>
>
> Full peer-reviewed journal article:
>
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es0518631.html
> or: http://snipurl.com/inbo
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 10:06:40 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 10:06:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A PAST DUE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20050920100443.13845.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
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JOHN,
I SEARCHED FOR YOUR ORIGINAL REPLY BACK
TO THIS E-MAIL POSTING, BUT COULDN'T FIND IT
AMONG ALL OF MY E-MAILS.
I REMEMBER THAT YOU ASKED ME SOMETHING
ABOUT WHY THE MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION
HAS ANY IMPORTANCE TO ME.
I WAS ONLY SEARCHING AROUND THE TOPIC OF
MODULATION ANOMALIES AT THAT TIME, AND
WEBSITES PERTAINING TO THE MADDEN-JULIAN
OSCILLATION CAME UP; AND SO I DECIDED TO
POST THE ONE BELOW.
MODULATION ANOMALIES WAS THE TOPIC AND
REASON WHY I FOUND THE WEBSITES ON THE
MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION.
MODULATION ANOMALIES, IN THE POSSIBILITIES
OF WEATHER MANIPULATION, USING EXTRA LOW
FREQUENCY AUDIO RADIO TECHNOLOGIES.
MY SEARCH DIDN'T GET ME VERY FAR THOUGH!
CLYDE
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
MODULATION OF EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC HURRICANES,
BY THE MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION:
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~maloney/hurricanes/hurr.web.pdf#search='modulation%20anomalies'
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:06:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018054404.43287.qmail@web412.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 17, 2005 10:44:04 PM
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> > -Why are these papers classified, unless they deal with UFO
> propulsion, force fields, weather control, and free energy?
>
> How about missile guidance, remote control bombs, etc.? He did
> design quite a few things with military potential. If his designs were
> explicit enough, then even today, they might aid errorists, muddy hind
> ends, and similar folks.
>
> -So would free energy.
Like most things, the ideas would have been exploited; especially
in those days, to bring energy to other areas the government needed
them. Free energy tanks, free energy bombers, etc.
Thus my conclusion that nothing involving practical free energy was
in those papers.
> > -When free energy becomes known, no one will be able to sell energy.
> Now think of how things go. Most common folks can't build this
> stuff and don't want to be responsible for it. I mean, it might be
> Or you can sell the equipment to make the energy to those early
> folks who are willing to take responsibility for their own lives. I
> -These are some very good points. Those who can't build or buy will
have to stay on the grid and buy gasoline. But Ed Gray met his demise
right after he tried to horn in on the utylities. (He wanted to use his
free energy motor to run their generators.) But, of course, this might
have been a coincidence.
Heck no, Neighbor, for only $49.95 a month, I'll give you all the
energy you need! Or let's partner on it, and get our neighbors to fork
over $49.95.
> If America started booming again, the money folks would find
> themselves much richer!
>
> -Right. And it will start booming again.
So why would they want to suppress this??> They'd want to get in on
it too by loaning money to guys wanting to build their own rigs.
> > -Do you feel that free energy should be "every man for himself", with
> only the smart and industrious benefiting?
>
> Yep. that's the way all revolutions are. that's how the computer
> revolution started, how the cold fusion revolution started, etc. (Cold
> fusion just didn't get hot enough.) The internet boom too!
> -Well, I for one am looking out for myself. But I'm willing to help
others at the same time. And the first shot has already been fired, as
my burnt out motor home shows.
Why do you equate that with nefarious elements? Motor homes burn
up all the time. Worn wiring jiggling about too much, poor this, cheap
that, etc. I'v seen enough carcasses of them.
> > -Right. Eyewitness accounts state that a flaming mass traveling
> through the atmosphere broke up into two or more parts before the
> explosion (like the shuttle?), so it could have been a number of things.
> First, any meteor, cometary fragment, etc. could have done the same.
>
> -Not necessarily. The information I've read said it would have to
contain anti-matter to release that much energy.
So? Sure, that's one theory. Another likely theory is a comet.
> As to ball lightning, it would have to be HUGE balls of lightning!
> Highly unlikely they could have existed that way -- where would the
> energy have come from???
>
> -The energy comes from cohereing the active vacuum. And the balls
wouldn't have to be more than a meter in diameter, each with around 504
megaJoules at the start.
Have we documented this as a likely event that happens over and
over again in nature?
No?
Then why should we believe this happened this one unique time? Why
should we favor this theory over other theories? Seems other things
happen far, far more often.
> > > Conspiracies are the boogymen of the mind, hobbling our
> > > imagination, distracting us from more productive pursuits. Remember: No
> > > power, where no belief! Do not let your imagination create boogymen
> > > to steal the thunder of your mind.
> > -I am not afraid of speaking openly. Or of working on anything I choose to work on. -JV
>
> Good for you. Just please, provide some evidence for your wild
> speculations. After all, this is supposed to be mad SCIENTISTS, not mad
> speculators. (Even if we do stray an awful lot.)
>
> -The only evidence I need is that the magnetic field flips 90 degrees
when the electric field flips 180. See if you can find that in a
textbook.
Why should it? How could it? It would violate symmetry.
> -But you're right; and I really AM a Mad Scientist. But not because of idle speculations.
Good!
> -Speaking of coverups, I found an Inertial Propulsion forum at the
Inter-Corporate.com web site which had been inactive for a few months.
So I posted some of my proven results, to encourage them to keep
experimenting. Right after that, four other guys showed up, adamantly
ignoring any evidence that anyone had ever produced Inertial Propulsion,
and periodically saying so. Since then, they've added a thousand posts,
mostly irrelevant and defeatist, completely burying my information.
The KeelyNet Interactive forum recently went down, within minutes after
my post revealing the breakthrough secret. And I also had the last post
at the FreeNRG list on EScribe, before their server 'smoked'. But I'm
only on this list for a while, and I'll be careful what I say.
What would anyone gain by doing that?
Why sabotage by some anti's, when viral attack is far more likely?
How much proof do you have that your inertial propulsion systems
work? What is the efficiency of this thing? Is it a geometric cogging
against the fabric of space-time, like a bulldozer with high traction on
the ground; or just a force, like the wind blowing a sailboat?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 11:06:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:07:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PEACE ON EARTH....
Message-ID: <20051018180653.6562.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
PEACE ON EARTH, AS IS, IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE!
CLYDE
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WEBLINK:
JIM WALLIS:
WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND
THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/02/23/findrelig.DTL
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:16:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
I can see their point. Sure, there are freedom of speech issues as
well. It's not a clean cut case.
But what would you be doing, Clyde? Defaming Tulsa on your
broadcasts?
NO; ONLY ATTEMPTING TO WAKE UP THE HALF BRAIN DEAD PEOPLE OF
THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF FOREVER GO NO WHERE ALSUMA TULSA, TO
TRY TO MAKE THIS PLACE A BETTER PLACE; A BOOMTOWN, INSTEAD OF
AN EVER ENDLESS HALF RUN DOWN BROKETOWN..!
You'd get a lot of people angry with that. You might even
foment riots.
RIOTS ARE NOT MY CAUSE.
PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING; IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE; IS MY CAUSE..!
It's an interesting path for too many Hitleresque ego-maniacs to
start their rise, challenging the government, the sane order of things,
etc. Vanity press and Vanity Web is bad enough.
OK.
But who knows, it might be interesting.
YEAH.
Just dont' start any riots, Clyde; that's bad for the karma.
I DON'T INTEND TO START ANY RIOTS.
IF THERE ARE ANY RIOTS IT WILL BE YOUTH AGAINST ADULTS, BECAUSE
CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN; ADULTS GO TO HELL!
LATER, CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:25:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018143744.21387.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 07:37:44 AM
Message-ID: <20051018182524.9311.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> > PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
> > A LOT OF PEOPLE OF EVEN TODAY'S WORLD WOULD LOOK AT EVEN
> > THAT AS SOME FORM OF MAGIC..!
>
> I've used one.
>
> I'VE DREAMED OF OWNING ONE FOR A LONG TIME NOW.
Common object in the neon sign and vacuum business.
> Kids, yes, might view it as magic.
> YES.
> Grown ups have seen it before in science class.
>
> NOT ALL GROWN UPS!
>
> UNEDUCATED GROWNUPS, AND HANDICAPPED GROWNUPS MIGHT
Do you want to be a mad magician, or a mad scientist? being a mad
magician is easy! Plenty of books on the subject. Pull off amazing
feats, astound people, become famous.
(Gack! Last thing I want is fame! I want my works to be famous, not
myself.)
All you need to do, is to do a bit of research in the library. And
practice, practice, practice.
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY SO MANY FOLKS USE THE PHRASE OF NUKING
> THEIR FOOD, WHEN USING THE MICROWAVE OVEN?
> IT IS AT THE BORDERLINE OF NUCLEAR PARTICULATE RADIATION..!
It' because they are clueless morons. Some are even mooless
chlorons!
> AS FOR CONVENTIONAL COOKING OVENS ON THE OTHER HAND; THEY
> COOK FOODS USING E.L.F RADIATION HEAT.
> MICROWAVE OVENS USE H.F. HEAT, TO COOK THE FOODS..!
> H.F. (HIGH FREQUENCY) HEAT, IS NOT HEALTHY..!
It all depends... do you intend to eat it?
> gamma is high energy waves.
> YEAH, SO?
> THERE IS PARTICULATE, AND THERE IS NUCLEAR PARTICULATE..!
>
>
>
> THE DIFFERENCE IS IN FREQUENCY;
>
>
>
> IF THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT WAS INDEED A TRUE CONSTANT; THE ONLY
> COLOR THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD BE ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT
> ONLY; AND NO OTHER COLOR IN THE SPECTRUM WOULD EVEN EXIST;
> THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXISTANCE OF A SPECTRUM IN THE
> CASE OF AN EXISTANCE OF ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT ONLY..!
Not according to the physics that I know.
> IS GOD THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM?
No. God is that which conceived the universe. But it could have
been a bunch of clueless grad students playing with their professor's
universal generator in the panaversity. I wonder if they passed the
course, or got run ot of town.
> DOES GOD EVEN EXIST?
Do you exist?
Does that answer the question?
> > AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
>
> Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
>
>
>
> YEAH; MOST PEOPLE ARE BRAIN DEAD TO HIGHER THINKING
> PROCESSES OR THEY ARE AT LEAST NEARLY HALF BRAIN DEAD;
> LIKE MY BIMBO MOTHER....
There are people like that; but we need to be polite to them. I
mean, not just our mothers, but also those who grow our food, truck it
to the stores, sell it to us, etc. We'd starve without them.
> YES; LIKE RAPPER TUPAC SAYS, IN PART OF SOME OF HIS SONG
> LYRICS: THAT WHICH CANNOT KILL ME CAN ONLY MAKE ME
> STRONGER!
Another thief! That's an old saying! It's also wrong. Rappers are
brain dead. They are also immoral.
> The only other time, is when I identify the current situation as non-survivable,
> and then it's lets have some fun and try to change the situation.
> SO FAR IN THIS RUN DOWN SLUM OF ALSUMA TULSA OKLAHOMA, UNDER
> THE OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED DICTATORSHIT, OF ONION (UNION)
> FASCIST COMMUNIST SCHOOLS; HEALTH AND PEACE AND PROSPERITY
> ARE FLOPPING FAILURES..!
Why don't you join some group trying to improve it? Or don't you
want it improved?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 18 11:33:19 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 11:33:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018181640.38060.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 11:16:40 AM
Message-ID: <20051018183319.15620.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I can see their point. Sure, there are freedom of speech issues as
> well. It's not a clean cut case.
>
> But what would you be doing, Clyde? Defaming Tulsa on your
> broadcasts?
>
>
>
> NO; ONLY ATTEMPTING TO WAKE UP THE HALF BRAIN DEAD PEOPLE OF
> THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF FOREVER GO NO WHERE ALSUMA TULSA, TO
Most people would rather sleep than think. (Sometimes I agree with
them, though more often not.)
> TRY TO MAKE THIS PLACE A BETTER PLACE; A BOOMTOWN, INSTEAD OF
> AN EVER ENDLESS HALF RUN DOWN BROKETOWN..!
That requires quite a bit of work...
> Just dont' start any riots, Clyde; that's bad for the karma.
>
> I DON'T INTEND TO START ANY RIOTS.
>
> IF THERE ARE ANY RIOTS IT WILL BE YOUTH AGAINST ADULTS, BECAUSE
>
> CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN; ADULTS GO TO HELL!
An intresting piece of theology...
And why might this be?
Does that make you afraid of becoming one of them?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 17:40:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 17:40:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Do you want to be a mad magician, or a mad scientist?
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN BEING A MAD MAGICIAN.
THOUGH I HAVE DREAMED OF BUILDING GARGANTUAN SIZED
TESLA COILS, LIKE WHAT MR. RICHARD HULL HAS DONE, IN
RICHMOND VIRGINIA, AS VISUAL DISPLAY; LIGHTING UP THE NIGHT
SKY..!
Being a mad magician is easy! Plenty of books on the subject. Pull off amazing
feats, astound people, become famous.
TESLA DID QUITE A BIT OF SHOWING OFF OF HIS WORKS AND INVENTIONS,
DURING HIS TIME.
(Gack! Last thing I want is fame! I want my works to be famous, not
myself.)
RIGHT!
I WANT MY TALKING CLOCK PROJECT TO BE A SUCCESS, AND I WANT TO
HAVE CREDIT FOR PART OF IT; BUT I HAVE NO CARE OR CONCERN OF
BEING IN A SPOTLIGHT OR LIMELIGHT BECAUSE OF IT..!
All you need to do, is to do a bit of research in the library.
I HAVE DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH, THAT I AM JUST SO WORN OUT;
MUCH OF THE RESEARCH AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN MY EXTENSIVE
LISTS OF WEBLINKS THAT I'VE SHARED ON THIS LIST.
IT HAS WORN ME OUT SO MUCH, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE
PROGRESSED SO VERY LITTLE.
ECONOMIC POVERTY, AND AN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT
TEACH FOLKS TO BE ENTREPRENEURS; THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL; THAT
DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY
INDEPENDENT, AND THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
US TO BE JUST PLAIN INDEPENDENT..!
.... INCLUDING ENERGY INDEPENDENT AS WELL..!
And practice, practice, practice.
YES.
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY SO MANY FOLKS USE THE PHRASE OF NUKING
> THEIR FOOD, WHEN USING THE MICROWAVE OVEN?
> IT IS AT THE BORDERLINE OF NUCLEAR PARTICULATE RADIATION..!
It' because they are clueless morons. Some are even mooless
chlorons!
> AS FOR CONVENTIONAL COOKING OVENS ON THE OTHER HAND; THEY
> COOK FOODS USING E.L.F RADIATION HEAT.
> MICROWAVE OVENS USE H.F. HEAT, TO COOK THE FOODS..!
> H.F. (HIGH FREQUENCY) HEAT, IS NOT HEALTHY..!
It all depends... do you intend to eat it?
I DON'T LIKE MICROWAVE OVENS..!
> THERE IS PARTICULATE, AND THERE IS NUCLEAR PARTICULATE..!
>
> THE DIFFERENCE IS IN FREQUENCY;
>
> IF THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT WAS INDEED A TRUE CONSTANT; THE ONLY
> COLOR THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD BE ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT
> ONLY; AND NO OTHER COLOR IN THE SPECTRUM WOULD EVEN EXIST;
> THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXISTANCE OF A SPECTRUM IN THE
> CASE OF AN EXISTANCE OF ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT ONLY..!
Not according to the physics that I know.
THEN; ACCORDING TO THE PHYSICS THAT YOU KNOW; WOULD YOU SAY
THAT IT IS POSSIBLE THEN, TO HAVE ANTI-NUCLEAR HIGH POWER, AT
FREQUENCIES WITHIN THE SPECTRUM OF LIGHT; AND TO GO WARP SPEED
AND BEYOND; EVEN TO GO INFINITE VELOCITY LIKE TESLA BELIEVED IS
POSSIBLE???
> IS GOD THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM?
No. God is that which conceived the universe. But it could have
been a bunch of clueless grad students playing with their professor's
universal generator in the panaversity. I wonder if they passed the
course, or got run ot of town.
HA HA!
> DOES GOD EVEN EXIST?
Do you exist?
YES..!
Does that answer the question?
I AM A GOD; YET AM MORTAL AT THE SAME TIME....
OR I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO REACH GODHOOD;
TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THIS CURSED EXISTANCE
AND REALITY FOREVER, IN ABSOLUTE SERENITY?
> > AFRAID OF BOTH THE DARK, AND THE LIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY?
I AM SICK, + TIRED AND WORN OUT, FROM BEING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE WARZONE BETWEEN THE DARK AND THE LIGHT FORCES..!
I HAVE FOUGHT FOR SO LONG NOW, AS A FREEDOM FIGHTER, AND HAVE
PLAYED THE DEVILS ADVOCATE SO MUCH, BECAUSE OF LIBERAL
CHRISTIANS.
DEVIL'S ADVOCACY IS NOT MY WILL.
CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS PEACE; AND THAT IS WHERE I ULTIMATELY
PERMANENTLY WANT TO BE, AND WHERE I NEED TO BE, FOR SANITY'S
SAKE, AND FOR HEALTH'S SAKE AS WELL.
> Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
>
>
>
> YEAH; MOST PEOPLE ARE BRAIN DEAD TO HIGHER THINKING
> PROCESSES OR THEY ARE AT LEAST NEARLY HALF BRAIN DEAD;
> LIKE MY BIMBO MOTHER....
There are people like that; but we need to be polite to them. I
mean, not just our mothers, but also those who grow our food, truck it
to the stores, sell it to us, etc. We'd starve without them.
YEAH; I AGREE.
I THINK I MIGHT TRY TO SEE IF I CAN LINK THE COMMERCIAL GEODESIC
DOME MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY WITH THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY,
TO WORK TOWARD MASS SCALE FUTURE BIOSPHERE'S, FOR THE
SUCCESSFUL ALL YEAR ROUND PRODUCTION OF FOOD AGRICULTURE;
IF - AFTER MY PROFESSIONAL TALKING CLOCK PROJECT BECOMES A
REALITY..!
> YES; LIKE RAPPER TUPAC SAYS, IN PART OF SOME OF HIS SONG
> LYRICS: THAT WHICH CANNOT KILL ME CAN ONLY MAKE ME
> STRONGER!
Another thief!
WELL I'VE SEEN THE VERY DIFFICULT SIDE OF REALITY; SORT OF LIKE
TUPAC; EXCEPT IN MY CASE FROM A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE,
AND I CAN RELATE TO SOME OF THE STRUGGLES AND TROUBLES THAT THE ECONOMICALLY POOR FOLKS HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN LIFE, AND SOME OF
WHAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE.
That's an old saying! It's also wrong.
Rappers are brain dead.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ENTIRELY..!
SOME ARE; A LOT AREN'T..!
A LOT ARE EXTREMELY TALENTED AS CAN BE..!
They are also immoral.
YEAH; MOST OF THEM ARE; BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH
IN LIFE, ECONOMICALLY, AND AS PART OF THEIR GENETIC MAKEUP.
> The only other time, is when I identify the current situation as non-survivable,
> and then it's lets have some fun and try to change the situation.
> SO FAR IN THIS RUN DOWN SLUM OF ALSUMA TULSA OKLAHOMA, UNDER
> THE OVERZONED AND OVERTAXED DICTATORSHIT, OF ONION (UNION)
> FASCIST COMMUNIST SCHOOLS; HEALTH AND PEACE AND PROSPERITY
> ARE FLOPPING FAILURES..!
Why don't you join some group trying to improve it? Or don't you
want it improved?
YES I WANT IT IMPROVED; BUT I ALSO HAVE TO IMPROVE MYSELF FIRST,
BEFORE I CAN BE OF HELP TO OTHERS; BECAUSE MY MIND HAS BEEN
POISONED AGAINST OTHERS.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 18:00:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018043600.84267.qmail@web404.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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thrustmeister < thrustmeister@spaceoffice.us > wrote:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Remember, even rocket science isn't rocket science anymore. You go
look it up in the books, or today, go check Google.
YEAH; WE NOW NEED ANTI GRAVITY SCIENCE; COUNTER GRAVITY SCIENCE;
LEVITATION SCIENCE; ANGULAR PROPULSION SCIENCE; OR SOMETHING
OF THAT DESCRIPTIVE / DEFINATIVE NATURE..!
-I've already developed Levitation Science and Angular Propulsion Science.
With various working prototypes, I've placed this technology into the Public Domain,
so anyone can build and use it. I have a Levitation Machine, a Wheel Within a Wheel,
a Split Gyroscope, and an Eccentric Cam. Pictures, descriptions, and operational
details are online at:
http://www.spaceoffice.us
and:
http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments
YES!
VERY VERY GOOD WEBSITES..!
-These systems produce Thrust as a reaction to various mechanical/inertial forces,
and this thrust reaction can go on indefinately. All of these systems are very easy
to build.
ONLY PROBLEM FOR MYSELF IS THAT I HAVE FAR FAR TOO LITTLE
MONEY TO INVEST IN IT.
IT IS PART OF WHAT I WOULD BE SPENDING MY TIME DOING IF
RESOURCES WERE NOT SO FOREVER FINITE, AND IF I WASN'T SO
SOCIALLY ISOLATED FROM FOLKS WHO ARE MORE WEALTHY THAN
MYSELF WHO HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS.
PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
-You can get one for $170 at: http://sciencekits.com
I LOOKED ON THAT WEBSITE AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING PERTAINING
TO TESLA COILS AT ALL.
COULD IT ONLY BE A SPECIALTY ITEM THAT THEY WOULD BUILD AND
SELL, SINCE IT CAN BE DANGEROUS TO UNSPECIALIZED FOLKS, AND TO
KIDS, DUE TO UNSAFE HIGH VOLTAGES, WHEN IT IS TAMPERED WITH
INTERNALLY?
Jerry
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 18:23:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 18:23:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JIM WALLIS: WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND LEFT
DOESN'T GET IT.
Message-ID: <20051019012329.59719.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
JIM WALLIS:
WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND
THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/02/23/findrelig.DTL
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 18 19:16:31 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 19:16:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019004001.81729.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 05:40:01 PM
Message-ID: <20051019021631.71274.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IT HAS WORN ME OUT SO MUCH, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE
> PROGRESSED SO VERY LITTLE.
More progress than most!
> ECONOMIC POVERTY, AND AN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH FOLKS TO BE ENTREPRENEURS; THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH
> AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL; THAT
> DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY
> INDEPENDENT, AND THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
> US TO BE JUST PLAIN INDEPENDENT..!
That's not the purpose of education. The purpose of education is
to give you a base for educating yourself further. OR at least,
industry would like us to be employable.
For entrepreneurial education, you need to move beyond the public
schools. The Small Business Administration (SBA) often holds classes on
running small businesses. They are worth taking, as long as you
understand that's not all there is to it, not by a long shot!
> > IF THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT WAS INDEED A TRUE CONSTANT; THE ONLY
> > COLOR THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD BE ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT
> > ONLY; AND NO OTHER COLOR IN THE SPECTRUM WOULD EVEN EXIST;
> > THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXISTANCE OF A SPECTRUM IN THE
> > CASE OF AN EXISTANCE OF ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT ONLY..!
>
> Not according to the physics that I know.
>
> THEN; ACCORDING TO THE PHYSICS THAT YOU KNOW; WOULD YOU SAY
> THAT IT IS POSSIBLE THEN, TO HAVE ANTI-NUCLEAR HIGH POWER, AT
> FREQUENCIES WITHIN THE SPECTRUM OF LIGHT; AND TO GO WARP SPEED
> AND BEYOND; EVEN TO GO INFINITE VELOCITY LIKE TESLA BELIEVED IS
> POSSIBLE???
No.
Anti-nuclear high power? Don't know what that means. Non-nuclear
high power, we have all the time. 120 volts is considered high power.
Up that into the thousands of volts, and you get odd effects, but mostly
till you hit really super duper high voltage, you are not affecting the
nucleus of atoms.
Frequencies within the spectrum of light are possible in that many
things, energized enough, give off light of some frequency. The higher
the energy of the photon, the more to the blue - gamma end of the
spectrum the color of the light is. White light on the other hand, is a
mix of different frequencies. It's not pure.
Warp speed has not been invented yet.
Infinite velocity is believed not possible; though they do believe
there are tachyons which move faster than light. Still, it does not
look clear that we've produced tachyons, at least not something we can
control well. Tachyons are still hypothetical with no real proof of
existance.
> > IS GOD THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM?
>
> No. God is that which conceived the universe. But it could have
> been a bunch of clueless grad students playing with their professor's
> universal generator in the panaversity. I wonder if they passed the
> course, or got run ot of town.
>
> HA HA!
>
> > DOES GOD EVEN EXIST?
>
> Do you exist?
>
> YES..!
>
> Does that answer the question?
>
> I AM A GOD; YET AM MORTAL AT THE SAME TIME....
> OR I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO REACH GODHOOD;
> TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THIS CURSED EXISTANCE
> AND REALITY FOREVER, IN ABSOLUTE SERENITY?
I believe in God because I exist. I do not believe that I am God,
nor even remotely close to what God might be.
> I AM SICK, + TIRED AND WORN OUT, FROM BEING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
> THE WARZONE BETWEEN THE DARK AND THE LIGHT FORCES..!
You are not in a war zone, not even between the dark and light
forces. You are just, well, stressed A LOT!
> I HAVE FOUGHT FOR SO LONG NOW, AS A FREEDOM FIGHTER, AND HAVE
> PLAYED THE DEVILS ADVOCATE SO MUCH, BECAUSE OF LIBERAL
> CHRISTIANS.
> DEVIL'S ADVOCACY IS NOT MY WILL.
> CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS PEACE; AND THAT IS WHERE I ULTIMATELY
> PERMANENTLY WANT TO BE, AND WHERE I NEED TO BE, FOR SANITY'S
> SAKE, AND FOR HEALTH'S SAKE AS WELL.
Jesus Christ... well, I believe he was a man with some interesting
philosophical ideas for his time. Much more is attributed to him by the
hierarchy that followed, than he originated himself.
But there are many other philosophical ideas, ranging from the
Athena, to Zoroastra. Each have something, some bit of philosophical
stuff to aid in our passage upon this mortal planet.
I prefer Athena, as her respect for wisdom, and her willingness to
teach what she knew, kindled Western Civilization. I can't really say
that much more in words. The best way I can put it is that Her values
beat in my heart and resonate in my mind.
> > Most people are afraid of their own imagination, so don't use it...
> >
> > YEAH; MOST PEOPLE ARE BRAIN DEAD TO HIGHER THINKING
> > PROCESSES OR THEY ARE AT LEAST NEARLY HALF BRAIN DEAD;
> > LIKE MY BIMBO MOTHER....
>
> There are people like that; but we need to be polite to them. I
> mean, not just our mothers, but also those who grow our food, truck it
> to the stores, sell it to us, etc. We'd starve without them.
>
> YEAH; I AGREE.
> I THINK I MIGHT TRY TO SEE IF I CAN LINK THE COMMERCIAL GEODESIC
> DOME MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY WITH THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY,
> TO WORK TOWARD MASS SCALE FUTURE BIOSPHERE'S, FOR THE
> SUCCESSFUL ALL YEAR ROUND PRODUCTION OF FOOD AGRICULTURE;
> IF - AFTER MY PROFESSIONAL TALKING CLOCK PROJECT BECOMES A
> REALITY..!
There are many greenhouses already made from ordinary 2x4s, or even
just inflated. Geodesics are neat; but not for practical reasons.
As I look out over the fields from this mountain, I see that large
tracts of land are covered with polyethylene sheeting over hoops, so as
to reduce the effects of cold. Geodesics would be too large for the area
covered, too unwieldy, etc. Simple hoops are easier to set up,
modular in the sense that it's just hoops and rolls of plastic,
far cheaper, etc.
Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way around.
Economics, not technology, drive this world. Technology is just a tool
used to economic ends.
> WELL I'VE SEEN THE VERY DIFFICULT SIDE OF REALITY; SORT OF LIKE >
TUPAC; EXCEPT IN MY CASE FROM A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE, > AND I
CAN RELATE TO SOME OF THE STRUGGLES AND TROUBLES THAT THE ECONOMICALLY
POOR FOLKS HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN LIFE, AND SOME OF > WHAT THEY HAVE TO
ENDURE.
Rap music, presented in that rapid manner, trains the mind to do
stupid things. It blocks learning with utter crap suggesting mindless
anti-productive acts and hopelessness. It creates learned helplessness
leading to explosions. Just look at how many of these imbiciles die --
violence and drugs. Rap music should just be illegal for the human
garbage it creates. If someone had decent empowering lyrics... but they
don't. And the presentation locks people into lives of idiocity.
> They are also immoral.
>
> YEAH; MOST OF THEM ARE; BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH
> IN LIFE, ECONOMICALLY, AND AS PART OF THEIR GENETIC MAKEUP.
Bull detritus! They made bad decisions early on. Look at other
people who have succeeded by doing good things. I'm talking about many
industry leaders (few are corrupt), inventors, etc. Even simple store
owners and other small businesses are often very decent people.
> Why don't you join some group trying to improve it? Or don't you
> want it improved?
>
> YES I WANT IT IMPROVED; BUT I ALSO HAVE TO IMPROVE MYSELF FIRST,
> BEFORE I CAN BE OF HELP TO OTHERS; BECAUSE MY MIND HAS BEEN
> POISONED AGAINST OTHERS.
If you believe your mind is poisoned against others, then un-poison
it. Look at information beyond the limitations of your poisoning
information.
You are still a young man. You still have a heck of a lot of life
to live!
Look at Toastmasters, see what they have to offer on public
speaking. It will do you a lot of good to learn how to function in that
level of society.
If you want, look at Amway. Yes, they sell soap. What they do, is
teach you a lot about running a business, your business. You learn how
to sell, how important good customer service is, what people are looking
for, how to recruit and manage people, etc. Your goal should be similar
to mine when I joined at age 19 or 20 -- LEARN as much about sales and
marketing as possible. And make some bucks. It's a heck of a lot better
course than Dale Carnegie!
Amway is reasonably honest, huge emphasis on playing fair. Many of
the other multi-level sales things are scams. Amway has a huge history
of teaching, teaching, and teaching. You will need to interview several
distributors to see how their philosophies fit with yours; but it's a
worth while way of learning and earning. (I learned that I was not that
good a sales person in the flesh; but what I did learn about running a
business and managing people was tremendous!!! Not that I realized it
at the time... but over the years I did make good use of what I learned
there.)
And then there is what and how you eat. you need to eat three or
four meals a day, not one. And you need a lot of fresh vegetables for
optimal health. We all do.
For the depression, I keep coming back to getting that camera or
notebook, and recording what beauty you may find. There's a lot of
beauty around you. You just need a good excuse to start looking for it!
Writing or photographing are good excuses that people can understand.
The other thing is to sit in on a few Alcoholics Anonymous
meetings. You don't have to be an alcoholic, just tell them you are
depressed, and heart that they are a very inspiring group. I attended a
few meetings when I was helping a member with some audio and programming
work. I met him several times there, helped him with his audio
equipment, etc. It was inspiring to hear how many of them blew their
lives, ended up almost literally in the gutter, and then rebuilt their
lives when they gave up the stupidity of alcohol.
I'd blown all my money on health related problems, saw that if they
could rebuild, I sure could! And I did.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 19:39:35 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 19:40:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
WOULD BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ, AND KERRY,
ALL DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?
Message-ID: <20051019023935.90832.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
WOULD BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ,
AND KERRY, ALL DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?
I DON'T BEILIEVE THAT THEY WOULD..!
THEY ARE ALL CHICKENSHIT..!
I WOULD DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY - WITH AN OVERDOSE
OF PAINKILLERS; AS SHOULD ALL SOLDIERS FIGHTING
OVER IN THE MIDDLE BEAST AND OTHER COUNTRIES
BE GIVEN LIMITLESS DOSES OF PAINKILLERS FOR ANY
AND ALL SUFFERING THAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE
THROUGHOUT THIS POLITICAL INDUCED HELL ON EARTH.
AND TO ALL CASUALTIES OF WAR THROUGHOUT THE
WORLD; NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, OR WHAT SIDE
THAT THEY ARE ON; EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO
PAINKILLERS..!
EVERYONE..!
MAD AS HELL BECAUSE AMERICA HAS GONE TO MORAL
AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 20:00:40 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 18 20:00:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019021631.71274.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051019030040.45756.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
I'd blown all my money on health related problems,
saw that if they could rebuild,
I sure could!
And I did.
I NEED TO PUT ABSOLUTE
FOCUS ON MY HEALTH
NOW.
BECAUSE I AM SUFFERING
TREMENDOUSLY.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
I WISH I COULD GET ALL OF THE HELP
THAT I NEED.
PSEUDOLOGICAL 'HOSPITALS' ARE NO
GOOD, AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT I
NEED TO SUCCEED IS OUT OF REACH,
FINANCIALLY; AND SO I HAVE TO
SUFFER.
THERE IS JUST NO OTHER WAY; BUT
TO SUFFER.
I AM SICK OF THIS SLUM, AND I FEEL
HELPLESS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT
FOR THE BETTER.
LIFE IS JUST TOO PAINFUL.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 18 20:50:15 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 20:50:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
In-Reply-To: <20051019023935.90832.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 07:39:35 PM
Message-ID: <20051019035015.23344.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WOULD BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ,
> AND KERRY, ALL DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?
>
> I DON'T BEILIEVE THAT THEY WOULD..!
Patton said the thing isn't to die for your country; it's to make
the other bastard die for his!
> THEY ARE ALL CHICKENSHIT..!
They have all advanced to the point of being more valuable to this
country alive than dead. And though some may argue that point, they
know it. (I might argue about Kerry... but not seriously. The death of
any one man diminishes us all. Unless he's trying to diminish us by his
life, the way Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Mao did.)
> I WOULD DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY - WITH AN OVERDOSE
> OF PAINKILLERS; AS SHOULD ALL SOLDIERS FIGHTING
Ah, so you would require pain killers before you did. How can you
call these people cowards when they risked their lives without pain
killers?
You think Bush is chicken? He has a huge occupational hazard of
being shot. He faces that every day he goes and talks to people. He's
not behind a wall of glass; he's out there, easy prey for any lone
maniac eager to make a mark on history.
That is a hell of a lot more brave than joining the military and
serving in a war!!! In a war, you know who and where your enemy is. In
public life, you don't. And as the bunch of assassins and would-be
assassins have shown, all it takes is someone who's a little crazy.
> OVER IN THE MIDDLE BEAST AND OTHER COUNTRIES
> BE GIVEN LIMITLESS DOSES OF PAINKILLERS FOR ANY
> AND ALL SUFFERING THAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE
> THROUGHOUT THIS POLITICAL INDUCED HELL ON EARTH.
It's called narcotics, and it numbs the mind.
Clyde, the only times I took pain killers, are when they pulled my
wisdom teeth, when my tonsils were removed, and for some foot surgery,
and even then, discontinued them the same day as the surgery, much to
the surprise of the doctor.
I never take pain killers for mere dental work, not even the caps.
Even as a pre-teen, I refused to take any cough syrup with codeine as
just plain messing with my brain. I even refused pain killers when I
had kidney stones, making the doctor look at me sideways. I couldn't
sleep, had to take a hot shower every two hours, etc. due to the pain;
but I refused pain killers because I wanted my brain working, ME working
the way I am supposed to work.
Pain tells you that you are alive. It's part of life. I don't
like it any more than the next guy; but I'm not afraid of it, not as I
was when I was a mere child.
I remember the 1962 film Laurence of Arabia. It showed Laurence
burning a match down to his fingers. I did that. It hurt rather badly,
but I did that to show myself I could handle it. The real T.E. Laurence
did that to show others. I've done that three times in my life, just to
show me.
> AND TO ALL CASUALTIES OF WAR THROUGHOUT THE
> WORLD; NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, OR WHAT SIDE
> THAT THEY ARE ON; EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO
> PAINKILLERS..!
> EVERYONE..!
If they wish. But there is something better than pain killers. It
is satisfaction with what one has done with one's life.
I remember working with a man who's hands had been burned to the
wrists in the war, complete scar tissue. He was an immigrant who chose
America. He was a man who stood for decency. He knew what it was, and
was willing to pay the price to maintain it. Just about any price, from
the looks of him.
It goes to your sense of self, how strong it is, and whether it is
based upon relationships, or core values you hold as more important than
your self.
It goes to your sense of existance, that you will go on, in this
life and the next.
There is the serenity of knowing that what you do every day is
worth while, that your work helps others in some way. This gives you a
sense of existance beyond your physical body, a sense of connection with
humanity. And so, makes life more endurable.
Many times, I've been offered or seen the opportunity to make good
money at the expense of others. I've not taken that. (Toyed with it a
few times, like the gambling statistics deal I've mentioned in the
past.) I've always taken pains to give fair service for what I got,
going out of my way to do more when I could.
I take it you work in retail. You are helping others solve
problems in their lives with what you sell. It may be mere food to let
them stay longer in shopping; or something more, such as furniture they
may enjoy for a life time. Whichever, your work does help others, or
you would not be paid for it. Remember it is the customer who pays your
wages; your boss only handles the money. Look at these people, look at
how you can help them. Relax, let yourself feel some of their desires,
their joys and pains. As you feel more for them, you will see how you
can better help them. And so you will begin to see a place for yourself
within humanity.
(Just remember, you can change your place as you develop grace.
Hence my suggestions about Toastmaster s, Amway, and photography. They
are all ways of developing grace.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Tue Oct 18 20:50:23 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Tue Oct 18 20:50:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Hand Held Tesla Coil
In-Reply-To: <20051019005951.44403.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051019035023.22234.qmail@web404.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Sorry about the typo.
http://sciencekit.com
Click on "physics", then click "next" at the bottom of that page.
clyde lofton wrote:
PERSONALLY; I WISH I COULD HAVE A HANDHELD TESLA COIL..!
-You can get one for $170 at: http://sciencekits.com
I LOOKED ON THAT WEBSITE AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING PERTAINING
TO TESLA COILS AT ALL.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 18 22:20:03 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 22:20:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019005951.44403.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 18, 2005 05:59:51 PM
Message-ID: <20051019052003.93149.qmail@mall-net.com>
> http://www.spaceoffice.us
This is interesting in some ways; but I don't really get it. All I
see you proving... Actually, I don't see it proving anything. There are
some moment arms involved which would give apparent forces; but the
significance with respect to sustained unidirectional force escapes me.
As to the experimental setup, if you have an AC drill, then the
reverser switch will not work. If you have a DC drill, the dimmer will
not work. (And even on an AC drill, the dimmer will not work well.)
This already casts some question on the nature of how you did the
experiment described on your web site.
The real proof would be to hang some assembly on a free (3D)
pendulum mount, and have your system produce a lasting force to keep the
pendulum on one side of the hanging point. This is what Rabinow did to
discredit the Dean Drive -- it produce no net force, so it did not stay
on one side of the hanging point. All it did, was to redistribute the
force in a non-linear way, one side getting a short swift bang, the
other side getting a longer, lower force; but both sides getting the
same total force over a period of time. The apparent lift we saw on the
TV demonstrations on The Today Show in the late 1950's or early 1960's,
the apparent reduction in weight on a typical bathroom scale was
due to inertial effects of the spring or balance arms in the scale.
I don't see that kind of free (3d) pendulum rig to show a sustained
force in one direction in any of your experiments.
If you are able to produce this sustained unidirectional force,
this would be one heck of a breakthrough! You'd be the mad scientist of
the century, even the non-mad scientist of the century!
Can you elaborate further on how you demonstrated such sustained
unidirectional force?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 05:43:03 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 05:43:10 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Hand Held Tesla Coil
In-Reply-To: <20051019035023.22234.qmail@web404.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051019124303.99373.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
JERRY,
THANKS FOR THE WEBLINK!
THAT SCIENCE COMPANY HAS SOME
VERY GOOD EQUIPMENT.
I'D LIKE TO GET THE GALVANOMETER
THAT THEY SELL.
I HAD A GALVANOMETER AT ONE TIME,
BACK IN 95' BUT IT GOT BROKEN, AND SO
I GOT RID OF IT.
AT THAT TIME IN MY LIFE, I WAS UNAWARE
THAT GALVANOMETERS ARE NOT TO
MEASURE THE FREQUENCY OUTPUTS OF
GENERATORS; BUT THAT THEY ARE ONLY
TO MEASURE THE AMPLITUDE OUTPUTS OF
VERY SLOW SPINNING GENERATORS
ONLY.
REGARDING THE TESLA COIL; IT LOOKS
GOOD; EXCEPT THAT I WAS EXPECTING TO
FIND IT TO BE LIKE THE PORTABLE HANDHELD
ONE THAT JACK NICHOLSON USES IN THE
MOVIE: ANGER MANAGEMENT.
THE HANDHELD TESLA COIL THAT JACK
NICHOLSON USES IN ANGER MANAGEMENT
MUST BE A CUSTOM BUILT ONE; IF ANYONE OF
YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE: ANGER
MANAGEMENT; ANOTHER HILARIOUS MOVIE!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 08:37:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> IT HAS WORN ME OUT SO MUCH, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE
> PROGRESSED SO VERY LITTLE.
More progress than most!
I AM STILL SO FATIGUED FROM IT ALL....
WITH FEELING NEARLY HELPLESS, AND
FEELING ENTIRELY HELPLESS MANY
TIMES.
> ECONOMIC POVERTY, AND AN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH FOLKS TO BE ENTREPRENEURS; THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH
> AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL; THAT
> DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO BE FINANCIALLY
> INDEPENDENT, AND THAT DOES NOT TEACH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
> US TO BE JUST PLAIN INDEPENDENT..!
That's not the purpose of education. The purpose of education is
to give you a base for educating yourself further.
OK; SO IF IT ISN'T THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EDUCATION; THEN IT
CERTAINLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR PARENTS TO HELP US
ALONG THE ROAD TO SUCCESS.
MY PARENTS ARE BOTH, EQUALLY FAILURES.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE MY PARENTS; EVEN IF IT ALSO MEANS
CHANGING MY D.N.A. AND UPGRADING MY D.N.A. TO ELIMINATE THE
GARBAGE D.N.A. OF BOTH OF MY PARENTS.
YES; I HAVE LOST MY MIND..!
OR at least, industry would like us to be employable.
YES; BUT I WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT..!
THAT IS MY CHOICE AS AN AMERICAN INDEPENDENT..!
For entrepreneurial education, you need to move beyond the public
schools. The Small Business Administration (SBA) often holds classes
on running small businesses. They are worth taking, as long as you
understand that's not all there is to it, not by a long shot!
OK; I'D LIKE TO CHECK INTO THAT.
THERE IS A LOCAL BUSINESS SCHOOL, BUT IT
APPEARS THAT THEY ARE ONLY JUST ANOTHER
SCHOOL THAT HAS TO BE PAID, ONLY TO GET A
LOUSY EDUCATION.
WRIGHT BUSINESS SCHOOL IS THE NAME.
> > IF THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT WAS INDEED A TRUE CONSTANT; THE ONLY
> > COLOR THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD BE ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT
> > ONLY; AND NO OTHER COLOR IN THE SPECTRUM WOULD EVEN EXIST;
> > THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXISTANCE OF A SPECTRUM IN THE
> > CASE OF AN EXISTANCE OF ABSOLUTE PURE WHITE LIGHT ONLY..!
>
> Not according to the physics that I know.
>
> THEN; ACCORDING TO THE PHYSICS THAT YOU KNOW; WOULD YOU SAY
> THAT IT IS POSSIBLE THEN, TO HAVE ANTI-NUCLEAR HIGH POWER, AT
> FREQUENCIES WITHIN THE SPECTRUM OF LIGHT; AND TO GO WARP SPEED
> AND BEYOND; EVEN TO GO INFINITE VELOCITY LIKE TESLA BELIEVED IS
> POSSIBLE???
No.
Anti-nuclear high power? Don't know what that means.
WELL; ANTI-NUCLEAR HIGH POWER, IN THE CASE OF WARP DRIVE NOT
OUTPUTTING ANY TOXIC EMMISIONS NUCLEAR WISE..!
Non-nuclear high power, we have all the time. 120 volts is considered high power.
YES.
Up that into the thousands of volts, and you get odd effects, but mostly
till you hit really super duper high voltage, you are not affecting the
nucleus of atoms.
YES; HIGHER VOLTAGES WILL GET INTO X-RAYS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT GAMMA RAYS THOUGH....
CAN THE PARTICLE ACCELLERATORS GET TO GAMMA
FREQUENCIES???
Frequencies within the spectrum of light are possible in that many
things, energized enough, give off light of some frequency. The higher
the energy of the photon, the more to the blue - gamma end of the
spectrum the color of the light is. White light on the other hand, is a
mix of different frequencies. It's not pure.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU THAT WHITE LIGHT IS ALWAYS IMPURE..!
HIGH VOLTAGE DIRECT CURRENT POWERED WHITE LIGHT ISN'T
IMPURE; OR IT AT LEAST ISN'T NECESSARILY IMPURE.
BLACKNESS IS ALSO FULL OF IMPURITY..!
I DON'T KNOW IF BLACKNESS CAN NECESSARLY
BE ATTRIBUTED TO DARKNESS THOUGH?! ?
Warp speed has not been invented yet.
YES; I KNOW!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICALITIES INVOLVED IN THE
TECHNOLOGY OF STAR TREK - IN THE PRODUCING OF THE WARPING EFFECT; IF THE WARP ENGINES ARE PRODUCING HIGH STRENGTH ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, OR IF THEY ARE PRODUCING HIGH
STRENGTH SONIC FILEDS; OR PERHAPS SOME SORT OF COMBINATION
OF THE TWO....
I KNOW THAT THE FIELD DAMPENERS ARE GYROSCOPE 'DRIVEN'.
Infinite velocity is believed not possible
IF GOD EXISTS; WOULD INFINITE VELOCITY EXIST?
; though they do believe there are tachyons which move faster than light.
Still, it does not look clear that we've produced tachyons, at least not
something that we can control well. Tachyons are still hypothetical with
no real proof of existance.
> I AM A GOD; YET AM MORTAL AT THE SAME TIME....
> OR I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO REACH GODHOOD;
> TO PEACEFULLY TRANSCEND THIS CURSED EXISTANCE
> AND REALITY FOREVER, IN ABSOLUTE SERENITY?
I believe in God because I exist. I do not believe that I am God,
nor even remotely close to what God might be.
> I AM SICK, + TIRED AND WORN OUT, FROM BEING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
> THE WARZONE BETWEEN THE DARK AND THE LIGHT FORCES..!
You are not in a war zone, not even between the dark and light
forces. You are just, well, stressed A LOT!
PEOPLE FUCK WITH ME A LOT; AND I AM VERY SENSITIVE....
AND YES; I AM VERY STRESSED OUT TOO..!
> I HAVE FOUGHT FOR SO LONG NOW, AS A FREEDOM FIGHTER, AND HAVE
> PLAYED THE DEVILS ADVOCATE SO MUCH, BECAUSE OF LIBERAL
> CHRISTIANS.
> DEVIL'S ADVOCACY IS NOT MY WILL.
> CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS PEACE; AND THAT IS WHERE I ULTIMATELY
> PERMANENTLY WANT TO BE, AND WHERE I NEED TO BE, FOR SANITY'S
> SAKE, AND FOR HEALTH'S SAKE AS WELL.
Jesus Christ... well, I believe he was a man with some interesting
philosophical ideas for his time. Much more is attributed to him by the
hierarchy that followed, than he originated himself.
YEAH; I HAVE READ THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS FUDGED MUCH
OF THE ORIGINAL MEANINGS WITHIN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW BIBLE,
TO FIT THEIR OWN KONTROL DOGMAS.
But there are many other philosophical ideas, ranging from the
Athena, to Zoroastra. Each have something, some bit of philosophical
stuff to aid in our passage upon this mortal planet.
I prefer Athena, as her respect for wisdom, and her willingness to
teach what she knew, kindled Western Civilization. I can't really say
that much more in words. The best way I can put it is that Her values
beat in my heart and resonate in my mind.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ATHENA;
TRITE PHILOSOPHIES BY ATHENA; NOT CONVENTION
LONG WINDED-NESS, OF BOOKS THAT RAMBLE
ENDLESSLY, ABOUT ENDLESS BULLSHIT; JUST TRITE
CONCISE SUCCINCT QUOTES BY HER..!
> YEAH; I AGREE.
> I THINK I MIGHT TRY TO SEE IF I CAN LINK THE COMMERCIAL GEODESIC
> DOME MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY WITH THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY,
> TO WORK TOWARD MASS SCALE FUTURE BIOSPHERE'S, FOR THE
> SUCCESSFUL ALL YEAR ROUND PRODUCTION OF FOOD AGRICULTURE;
> IF - AFTER MY PROFESSIONAL TALKING CLOCK PROJECT BECOMES A
> REALITY..!
There are many greenhouses already made from ordinary 2x4s, or even
just inflated. Geodesics are neat; but not for practical reasons.
IT IS MY WILL TO EVENTUALLY LIVE IN A BUCKMINSTER FULLER
STYLE, WELDED ONE PIECE GEODESIC SELF SUSTAINING
DOME BIOSPHERE.
FILLED WITH ALL OF THE RIGHT PLANTS, AND ALL OF THE RIGHT
SELF SUSTAINING ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY; AND TO BE AT LASTING
PEACE WITH NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY; AND WHEN I DIE, TO GO
OUT IN PERFECT PEACE..!
As I look out over the fields from this mountain, I see that large
tracts of land are covered with polyethylene sheeting over hoops, so as
to reduce the effects of cold. Geodesics would be too large for the area
covered, too unwieldy, etc. Simple hoops are easier to set up,
modular in the sense that it's just hoops and rolls of plastic,
far cheaper, etc.
Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way around.
Economics, not technology, drive this world.
WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REASON WHY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES ARE
REPRESSED.
Technology is just a tool used to economic ends.
> WELL I'VE SEEN THE VERY DIFFICULT SIDE OF REALITY; SORT OF LIKE >
TUPAC; EXCEPT IN MY CASE FROM A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE, > AND I
CAN RELATE TO SOME OF THE STRUGGLES AND TROUBLES THAT THE ECONOMICALLY
POOR FOLKS HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN LIFE, AND SOME OF > WHAT THEY HAVE TO
ENDURE.
Rap music, presented in that rapid manner, trains the mind to do
stupid things. It blocks learning with utter crap suggesting mindless
anti-productive acts and hopelessness. It creates learned helplessness
leading to explosions. Just look at how many of these imbiciles die --
violence and drugs. Rap music should just be illegal for the human
garbage it creates. If someone had decent empowering lyrics... but they
don't. And the presentation locks people into lives of idiocity.
YOU CAN'T SEE THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DIVIDE THOUGH, BETWEEN
THE UPPER CLASS AND THE LOWER CLASS..!
> They are also immoral.
>
> YEAH; MOST OF THEM ARE; BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH
> IN LIFE, ECONOMICALLY, AND AS PART OF THEIR GENETIC MAKEUP.
Bull detritus! They made bad decisions early on. Look at other
people who have succeeded by doing good things. I'm talking about many
industry leaders (few are corrupt), inventors, etc. Even simple store
owners and other small businesses are often very decent people.
> Why don't you join some group trying to improve it? Or don't you
> want it improved?
>
> YES I WANT IT IMPROVED; BUT I ALSO HAVE TO IMPROVE MYSELF FIRST,
> BEFORE I CAN BE OF HELP TO OTHERS; BECAUSE MY MIND HAS BEEN
> POISONED AGAINST OTHERS.
If you believe your mind is poisoned against others, then un-poison
it. Look at information beyond the limitations of your poisoning
information.
LIKE RIDDING MYSELF OF MY PARENTS GENETIC GARBAGE JUNK D.N.A.,
AND UPGRADING MY D.N.A., TO GET CLOSER TO PERFECTION.
You are still a young man. You still have a heck of a lot of life
to live!
A YOUNG OLD MAN - IF THAT MAKES SENSE!
IF I WASN'T AS YOUNG AS I AM PHYSICALLY, I'D HAVE ALREADY
DIED FROM HARDENING OF MY ARTERIES, FROM SO MUCH STRESS
OVERKILL.
Look at Toastmasters, see what they have to offer on public
speaking. It will do you a lot of good to learn how to function in that
level of society.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN TOASTMASTERS.
If you want, look at Amway. Yes, they sell soap. What they do, is
teach you a lot about running a business, your business. You learn how
to sell, how important good customer service is, what people are looking
for, how to recruit and manage people, etc. Your goal should be similar
to mine when I joined at age 19 or 20 -- LEARN as much about sales and
marketing as possible. And make some bucks. It's a heck of a lot better
course than Dale Carnegie!
I'D LIKE TO START BUYING AUDIO BOOKS FROM BARNES AND NOBLE
AND FROM BORDERS BOOK STORES; AND EDUCATING MYSELF
FURTHER, THAT WAY.
Amway is reasonably honest, huge emphasis on playing fair. Many of
the other multi-level sales things are scams. Amway has a huge history
of teaching, teaching, and teaching. You will need to interview several
distributors to see how their philosophies fit with yours; but it's a
worth while way of learning and earning. (I learned that I was not that
good a sales person in the flesh; but what I did learn about running a
business and managing people was tremendous!!! Not that I realized it
at the time... but over the years I did make good use of what I learned
there.)
I'VE ALREADY TRIED AND FAILED AT NETWORK MARKETING.
IT IS A ROAD TO NOWHERE..!
And then there is what and how you eat. You need to eat three or
four meals a day, not one. And you need a lot of fresh vegetables for
optimal health. We all do.
I'D EAT THREE TIMES DAILY, IF FINANCIAL RESOURCES PROVIDED
FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DO SO, AT ALL TIMES.
For the depression, I keep coming back to getting that camera or
notebook, and recording what beauty you may find. There's a lot of
beauty around you. You just need a good excuse to start looking for it!
Writing or photographing are good excuses that people can understand.
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK OUT TO REDBUD VALLEY; BUT THE
SUMMERTIME TEMPERATURES ARE STILL HERE, EVEN THOUGH
IT IS NOW IN THE SEASON OF FALL.
FALL IS THE BEST SEASON TO GO TO REDBUD VALLEY.
WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE LINKS THAT I SENT THE
OTHER DAY, REGARDING REDBUD VALLEY AND OXLEY NATURE
CENTER, IN THIS SLUMTOWN?
REDBUD VALLEY IS ABOUT ALL OF THE BEUTY THAT THIS PART
OF OKLAHOMA HAS TO OFFER..!
The other thing is to sit in on a few Alcoholics Anonymous
meetings. You don't have to be an alcoholic, just tell them you are
depressed, and heard that they are a very inspiring group.
OK.
I DID SIT IN ON ONE ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS GROUP MEETING,
BACK WHEN I WAS AT BROOK-COVEN, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL
SLUMTOWN - TULSA; BACK IN AUGUST.
IT WAS OK TO ATTEND; MAYBE I CAN ATTEND ANOTHER ONE
SOMEDAY.
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 10:57:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019153705.29287.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 19, 2005 08:37:05 AM
Message-ID: <20051019175648.80557.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > IT HAS WORN ME OUT SO MUCH, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE
> > PROGRESSED SO VERY LITTLE.
>
> More progress than most!
>
>
> I AM STILL SO FATIGUED FROM IT ALL....
> WITH FEELING NEARLY HELPLESS, AND
> FEELING ENTIRELY HELPLESS MANY
> TIMES.
We all go through that from time to time as things fail. But the
successful of us keep on trying. We try new ways, we try new things, we
write some things off as impractical; but we are always (or nearly
always) looking for something else we can do.
> That's not the purpose of education. The purpose of education is
> to give you a base for educating yourself further.
>
> OK; SO IF IT ISN'T THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EDUCATION; THEN IT
> CERTAINLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR PARENTS TO HELP US
> ALONG THE ROAD TO SUCCESS.
Let's just say that it helps! They don't always do that right. In
fact, most parents don't do an optimal job; just a good enough job. We
have to do the rest. If they spark us early enough, we WANT to do the
rest! We let our curiosity drive us. Life and learning are not
passive like TV. They need to be active.
> MY PARENTS ARE BOTH, EQUALLY FAILURES.
They earned an income, didn't they? They had food on the table and
something left over for clothes, some education, etc. Didn't they?
They may not have been roaring successes; but they lived decent
lives. A lot better than the lower tier of poor. And the poor were
generally better parents than the thieves, drunkards who beat their
wives and kids, etc.
Appreciate the good they did; learn from their failures and
shortcomings. But NEVER give your kids everything YOU wanted. Let them
develop themselves. Encourage them to develop their own interests.
> I DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE MY PARENTS; EVEN IF IT ALSO MEANS
> CHANGING MY D.N.A. AND UPGRADING MY D.N.A. TO ELIMINATE THE
> GARBAGE D.N.A. OF BOTH OF MY PARENTS.
Not possible a the present. But DNA does not dictate what you make
of yourself!
> YES; I HAVE LOST MY MIND..!
I don't think so. Lots of folks hate their parents in one way or
another. My father screwed me up too in some ways. As did the fathers of
other friends of mine. We fight that every day, the wrong lessons we
learned, as well as the wrong lessons WE learned on our own when we were
young. I got the wrong lessons on taking risks, on failure, on the
future, on saving money, on a lot of things.
Heck, my father thought America would be invaded by the USSR, and we
would loose; so we needed to keep a low profile. But what he did
believe in, what his entire life was based on, was fighting the good
fight regardless of the cost to oneself. He kept saying that wasn't the
way it should be; but his inner spirit, his sticking to the defense
industry for his main job, and all the examples he set showed that
fighting the good fight for freedom and decency is worth more than life
itself.
I could have used more lessons on wise investments, maintaining
contacts, etc. etc. Some of those lessons were just plan garbage.
SO WHAT!!! I'm old enough that I can argue with the memories of my
father! (And with him on occasion, as he's still alive.)
But give your parents their due, they kept food on the table, they
cared about you, gave you some toys, even if the wrong ones, and helped
you get started. Without your parents, you would not exist!
> OR at least, industry would like us to be employable.
> YES; BUT I WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT..!
> THAT IS MY CHOICE AS AN AMERICAN INDEPENDENT..!
That's a tougher job. One filled with failure and if oyu are lucky
and worked hard setting things up, maybe some roaring successes.
(Remember, being at the right place at the right time takes a lot of
effort, and a huge bit of awareness as to when and where things will
happen!) If you can last through the failures, the utter stress of
watching your mind children crash and burn, then there is a modest plus
to making it financially.
I'm not convinced that the financial vs the suffering are worth
it.
I just know it's who I am.
The really successful people don't measure success in terms of
dollars and cents. The warmth in their hearts comes from having made a
difference in this world. THAT, not the money, justifies their
existance to themselves.
The cheap, low class "successes" flaunt what their money can buy.
They try to justify themselves in terms of income. That's a hollow
justification. Very, Very hollow. I've worked for some of those
buffoons.
And the low class "success" 's children often live in a form of
hell in which they never learn the value of their own efforts; hence the
tendency of them to become rebels, revolutionaries, etc.
Hell is a childhood where you don't learn the value of your own
effort. The ultra-poor who can give their kids nothing to spark their
minds, and the newly rich who give everything to their kids tend to put
their kids through that kind of hell.
Heaven is where you learn that your efforts DO make a difference,
where you learn HOW to make a difference, skills, knowledge, etc.; but
mostly because you now WANT to make a difference, WANT to learn as much
as you can. It's where your curiosity drives your learning, and school
isn't necessarily the major source of your learning.
I learned far more from reading technical and trade magazines that
I ever learned from school. Same for close friends of mine.
> For entrepreneurial education, you need to move beyond the public
> schools. The Small Business Administration (SBA) often holds classes
>
> on running small businesses. They are worth taking, as long as you
> understand that's not all there is to it, not by a long shot!
>
>
> OK; I'D LIKE TO CHECK INTO THAT.
Just remember, these SBA people measure their success by how much
money they loan or control; NOT by your success! So take what they say
about accepting loans with a large salt shaker. Or several!
> No.
>
> Anti-nuclear high power? Don't know what that means.
>
>
>
> WELL; ANTI-NUCLEAR HIGH POWER, IN THE CASE OF WARP DRIVE NOT
> OUTPUTTING ANY TOXIC EMMISIONS NUCLEAR WISE..!
But warp drive does not exist. There's no theoretical basis for it.
All you see and hear about it are Hollywood fantasies to try to make it
sound scientific and Impressive!
> Up that into the thousands of volts, and you get odd effects, but mostly
> till you hit really super duper high voltage, you are not affecting the
> nucleus of atoms.
>
>
> YES; HIGHER VOLTAGES WILL GET INTO X-RAYS.
>
> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT GAMMA RAYS THOUGH....
Eventually.
> CAN THE PARTICLE ACCELLERATORS GET TO GAMMA
> FREQUENCIES???
The resulting impacts can release such energy.
> Frequencies within the spectrum of light are possible in that many
> things, energized enough, give off light of some frequency. The higher
> the energy of the photon, the more to the blue - gamma end of the
> spectrum the color of the light is. White light on the other hand, is a
> mix of different frequencies. It's not pure.
>
>
> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU THAT WHITE LIGHT IS ALWAYS IMPURE..!
It is. White is a mixture of different colored light.
> HIGH VOLTAGE DIRECT CURRENT POWERED WHITE LIGHT ISN'T
> IMPURE; OR IT AT LEAST ISN'T NECESSARILY IMPURE.
Look up how the eye works. The rods are light sensors, each of the
cones are specifically sensitive to either Red, Green, or Blue light
frequencies. We see white when the three are equally stimulated.
Look at how your TV works, red, green, and blue pixels turned on to
make other colors your red, green, and blue cones detect and interpret
to be colors or white.
> BLACKNESS IS ALSO FULL OF IMPURITY..!
Blackness is full of nothing. What you see in total darkness is
mostly neurological "noise".
> I DON'T KNOW IF BLACKNESS CAN NECESSARLY
> BE ATTRIBUTED TO DARKNESS THOUGH?! ?
Blackness is less light coming back at you. All surfaces will
reflect some light; so it is a relative thing.
> Warp speed has not been invented yet.
>
>
> YES; I KNOW!
>
> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICALITIES INVOLVED IN THE > TECHNOLOGY OF
STAR TREK - IN THE PRODUCING OF THE WARPING EFFECT; IF THE WARP ENGINES
ARE PRODUCING HIGH STRENGTH ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, OR IF THEY ARE
PRODUCING HIGH > STRENGTH SONIC FILEDS; OR PERHAPS SOME SORT OF
COMBINATION
The technicalities of warp drive are making it look important and
keeping the light sequences running, including changing the bulbs often
enough.
It's a total fake, as is the rest of Star Trek. Absolutely nothing
is real save the actors, some wood, metal, and foamcore boards. Not even
the characters are real. It's pure fantasy designed to reveal some
aspects of human nature in an interesting way.
(Hey, I needed to impress someone once, so I made a foam-core
console for all my computer gear. WoW! It looked like a NASA console!
He was impressed!!! And so was I. It looked Neat, not a mess of five
computers, three CRTs, and two keyboards tied together by dozens of
wires.)
I enjoyed Star Trek The Next Generation very much. It asked
questions, illuminated aspects of psychology, etc. It inspired. But
the technology was basically not invented yet. Will we invent it? Who
knows! Transporters? Somewhat unlikely. But if we do invent
transporters, we will be able to reverse aging, repair any damage, etc.
by simply rebuilding missing parts from past copies.
If Star Trek's transporter was used as any inventor would have used
it, it would be used for transportation, for healing and regenerating,
for all manufacturing, food production, for just about everything that
needed to be done from the very first episode of the first series. We
got some of that in the food replicators; but it wasn't till Star Trek
TNG found Scotty in a pattern buffer, and what's her name (Not Beverly)
the other sick bay head was cleansed of some antibodies, that they
really used it to half it's potential.
Basically, if they had done it from the start, there would be not
much of a story. Away mission? Someone gets killed? Recreate him or her
from a backup copy. Someone gets sick? Re-copy him or her without the
virus, damage, etc. They'd all be the equivalent of Immortal; so where's
the story of risk and success?
>
> OF THE TWO....
>
> I KNOW THAT THE FIELD DAMPENERS ARE GYROSCOPE 'DRIVEN'.
Who knows how that's supposed to be done!
> Infinite velocity is believed not possible
>
> IF GOD EXISTS; WOULD INFINITE VELOCITY EXIST?
Why should it?
> You are not in a war zone, not even between the dark and light
> forces. You are just, well, stressed A LOT!
>
>
> PEOPLE FUCK WITH ME A LOT; AND I AM VERY SENSITIVE....
> AND YES; I AM VERY STRESSED OUT TOO..!
There are some people who are so insecure in themselves, that they
have to try to prove someone else is worse than they are by screwing
with them.
> Jesus Christ... well, I believe he was a man with some interesting
> philosophical ideas for his time. Much more is attributed to him by the
> hierarchy that followed, than he originated himself.
>
> YEAH; I HAVE READ THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS FUDGED MUCH
> OF THE ORIGINAL MEANINGS WITHIN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW BIBLE,
> TO FIT THEIR OWN KONTROL DOGMAS.
And you think the Hebrew bubble was free of control dogmas? HAH!
The original Hebrew religion was gynocentric. That is, it
worshiped a female goddess (as did most religions), and was centered
around trying to insure enough children were born into the tribe to
insure it's continued existance.
Somewhere along the line, disposable men, being stronger, took
control and warped everything to their purposes. They used shame,
guilt, and sexuality to control the people.
Now, don't get me wrong. Early sex changes the patterns of the
brain, making it more sexually oriented. So delaying sex helps create a
more generally useful brain and a more socially oriented person, vs what
we now call a highly sex oriented person who will try almost anything to
have sex with anyone. In other words, what this culture may call a sex
pervert.
Different cultures have different norms. But it is those norms
which build them, and our culture, with sexual restraint till late teens
early twenties, seems to have done better than a lot of other cultures.
I like to measure the culture by what it produces, such as science,
technology, music, etc.
Cultures with early sexual practices _TEND_ not to have much
technology, music, etc. They are more into war, retribution, etc. And
quite primitive in the way they live.
And people in this culture with early sexual experiences _TEND_ to
be less interested in technology, music, the sciences, etc. except as it
promotes their sexuality.
Mind you, these are tendencies, not absolutes. Some of these people
do see beyond, and try to go beyond such interests. A lot don't.
> But there are many other philosophical ideas, ranging from the
> Athena, to Zoroastra. Each have something, some bit of philosophical
> stuff to aid in our passage upon this mortal planet.
>
> I prefer Athena, as her respect for wisdom, and her willingness to
> teach what she knew, kindled Western Civilization. I can't really say
> that much more in words. The best way I can put it is that Her values
> beat in my heart and resonate in my mind.
>
>
> I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ATHENA;
> TRITE PHILOSOPHIES BY ATHENA; NOT CONVENTION
> LONG WINDED-NESS, OF BOOKS THAT RAMBLE
> ENDLESSLY, ABOUT ENDLESS BULLSHIT; JUST TRITE
> CONCISE SUCCINCT QUOTES BY HER..!
Well, since there was no writing way back then... there are no
quotes attributable directly to her. My guess is that She (or They)
fled either the Black Sea Flood or precursor to that some 7,400 years
ago. Very little evidence of anything from back then!
> There are many greenhouses already made from ordinary 2x4s, or even
> just inflated. Geodesics are neat; but not for practical reasons.
>
>
> IT IS MY WILL TO EVENTUALLY LIVE IN A BUCKMINSTER FULLER
> STYLE, WELDED ONE PIECE GEODESIC SELF SUSTAINING
> DOME BIOSPHERE.
So you can control your environment.
Tell me, Clyde, would you have met me if you lived in that sealed
dome? Would you meet anyone really interesting if you lived in that
sealed dome or orbiting space ship?
What would you have done with yourself if you had not met some of
us? Have we not sparked some interest? Have we not helped you grow, as
you have helped us grow?
> Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way
> around. Economics, not technology, drive this world.
WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REASON WHY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES ARE REPRESSED.
No. They just are not as useful as other, better established
technologies. People use what they are comfortable with. People try to
avoid risk. New things carry new risks, things people don't know.
And you don't always see all the reasons why people do things.
YOU CAN'T SEE THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DIVIDE THOUGH, BETWEEN THE
UPPER CLASS AND THE LOWER CLASS..!
Lets see now..,. I know several millionaires, some of whom lost more
money than I ever earned in the economic decline starting in 2000. Some
of them are my steadfast friends despite the fact that I am currently
very poor.
I've worked for a number of millionaires and their companies.
I also work with some really poor people up here. Or try to. Most
of the poor up here are poor because they are into alcohol, drugs, and
just are not very functional. Yet they are all the help I can get up
here when something needs to be done.
BEEN POISONED AGAINST OTHERS. >
> If you believe your mind is
poisoned against others, then un-poison it. Look at information beyond
the limitations of your poisoning information. > > >
LIKE RIDDING MYSELF OF MY PARENTS GENETIC GARBAGE JUNK D.N.A., AND
UPGRADING MY D.N.A., TO GET CLOSER TO PERFECTION.
On the average, DNA determines less than a third of whom you can
become. YOU determine whom you can become by deciding whom you WANT to
be, and looking for HOW to improve yourself. As you start improving
yourself, you often see that whom you wanted to be isn't whom you now
want to be. You get better. You see what roles you can play in this
society. You develop new skills, new interests, a new sense of self;
as well as the sense of what you can and can not do for the consistency
of your sense of self.
> Look at Toastmasters, see what they have to offer on public
> speaking. It will do you a lot of good to learn how to function in that
> level of society.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN TOASTMASTERS.
Public speaking is one of the cornerstones of building yourself.
It isn't so much about speaking to a large group of people, as it is
about organizing and communicating your thoughts to any group of people,
whether it be one person or many.
I'D LIKE TO START BUYING AUDIO BOOKS FROM BARNES AND NOBLE AND FROM
BORDERS BOOK STORES; AND EDUCATING MYSELF FURTHER, THAT WAY.
Reading is better. Reading is at the pace of your mind, not the
pace of someone else's yammering. It lets you re-read parts. Good
reading involves the use of the pen to mark up the text, to write down
questions, etc. You can't do that with an audio text. The only thing
you can do with an audio text, is listen to it while you are driving.
And then, you mind can not let go of what you are doing or you will be
killed or kill someone else. You can't stop to have that interesting
idea!
(That's another thing I had to un-learn: the care of books. Mark
your books up! Use a highlighter, scribble notes in them, etc. They are
YOUR BOOKS! Books you are LEARNING FROM!)
I'VE ALREADY TRIED AND FAILED AT NETWORK MARKETING. IT IS A ROAD TO
NOWHERE..!
A lot of network marketing is scams. The scammier it is, the harder
they push to try to make you sell, the more they are scams!
I'D EAT THREE TIMES DAILY, IF FINANCIAL RESOURCES PROVIDED FOR ME TO BE
ABLE TO DO SO, AT ALL TIMES.
The best is small snacks, like fresh fruit and fresh veggies eaten
all the time. Grazing.
It's cheaper if you make your own food. I don't trust restaraunts,
mostly because I can't eat quite a few foods due to allergies and
digestion problems. So I cook my own. When I was working, the grocery
clerks would comment that I spent more on magazines than the food I ate.
Most of it was fresh veggies from the produce section, and fresh veggies
are cheap.
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK OUT TO REDBUD VALLEY; BUT THE SUMMERTIME
TEMPERATURES ARE STILL HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOW IN THE SEASON OF
FALL. FALL IS THE BEST SEASON TO GO TO REDBUD VALLEY. WERE YOU ABLE TO
LOOK AT THOSE LINKS THAT I SENT THE OTHER DAY, REGARDING REDBUD VALLEY
AND OXLEY NATURE CENTER, IN THIS SLUMTOWN?
I did not look. I'm a bit busy with several problems up here and
back in Connecticut.
REDBUD VALLEY IS ABOUT ALL OF THE BEUTY THAT THIS
PART OF OKLAHOMA HAS TO OFFER..!
Oh, bull! I can walk down just about any street of any
neighborhood in any part of the country, and see something beautiful in
one way or another. Things from building architecture, to how a little
girl pays with her puppy dog.
Clyde, Beauty is EVERYWHERE! You just have to relax and open your
eyes to it!
How did I re-learn this in this god forsaken mountain of drunks,
skunks, and sand? By getting up every morning and going out looking for
it. Neat patters in the sand, the way some birds stand and look at you,
their songs, the flowers, red ferns in the sunrise, the glint of
sunlight on dew... on and on and on!
You don't have to be Ansel Adams to see and photograph beauty. You
just have to open your mind, take a lot of pictures, and throw most of
them out.
The world is a beautiful place! Sure, there are awful things too,
like the dead deer skellaton I found up here, the rot of this or that,
the fungi harming the pine trees, etc.
You chose every day which you emphasize in your life. the freedom
to look deeper, is the only real freedom we have. Use it to look deeper
at the beauty around you. It's there! It's everywhere!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
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Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 11:53:12 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 11:53:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
In-Reply-To: <20051019035015.23344.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051019185313.76023.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> WOULD BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ,
> AND KERRY, ALL DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?
>
> I DON'T BEILIEVE THAT THEY WOULD..!
Patton said the thing isn't to die for your country; it's to make
the other bastard die for his!
> THEY ARE ALL CHICKENSHIT..!
They have all advanced to the point of being more valuable to this
country alive than dead. And though some may argue that point, they
know it. (I might argue about Kerry... but not seriously. The death of
any one man diminishes us all. Unless he's trying to diminish us by his
life, the way Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Mao did.)
> I WOULD DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY - WITH AN OVERDOSE
> OF PAINKILLERS; AS SHOULD ALL SOLDIERS FIGHTING
Ah, so you would require pain killers before you did.
NOT ONLY FOR ME AND ME ALONE; FOR EVERYONE, EQUALLY;
WITH ZERO EXCLUSION..!
How can you call these people cowards when they risked their lives
without pain killers?
YOU SEPERATED THE FULL LENGTH OF THE SENTENCE THAT
I TYPED UP, AND HAVEN'T GOT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF WHAT I
WAS ATTEMPTING TO CONVEY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROOF OF BUSH SERVING IN ANY HAND TO
HAND COMBAT, OR KERRY SERVING IN ANY HAND TO HAND
COMBAT EITHER..!
ONLY MEDIA POOPAGANDA..!
AND THE YOUTH HAVE TO FIGHT THE RICH MAN'S WARS..!
SO YES; EVERY SCARRED YOUTH AND ADULT ALIKE, OF THE PAST
AND THE PRESENT DESERVE AN OVERDOSE OF PAINKILLERS; OR
DESERVE TO BE REPLACED WITH ROBOTS, FOR WARFARE..!
You think Bush is chicken? He has a huge occupational hazard of
being shot. He faces that every day he goes and talks to people. He's
not behind a wall of glass; he's out there, easy prey for any lone
maniac eager to make a mark on history.
That is a hell of a lot more brave than joining the military and
serving in a war!!! In a war, you know who and where your enemy is. In
public life, you don't. And as the bunch of assassins and would-be
assassins have shown, all it takes is someone who's a little crazy.
> OVER IN THE MIDDLE BEAST AND OTHER COUNTRIES
> BE GIVEN LIMITLESS DOSES OF PAINKILLERS FOR ANY
> AND ALL SUFFERING THAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE
> THROUGHOUT THIS POLITICAL INDUCED HELL ON EARTH.
It's called narcotics, and it numbs the mind.
IT ALSO NUMBS THE BODY AND THE EMOTIONS TOO..!
Pain tells you that you are alive.
YES; THAT IS CORRECT.
It's part of life.
YES; IT CAN BE A PART OF LIFE..!
BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE A PART OF LIFE..!
I DON'T CONSIDER PAIN TO BE A PART OF LIFE..!
I CONSIDER PAIN TO BE A PART OF DEATH..!
LIVING DEATH..!
I don't like it any more than the next guy; but I'm not afraid of it, not as I
was when I was a mere child.
JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF IT, DOESN'T MEAN
THAT OTHERS ARE NOT..!
MANY OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember the 1962 film Laurence of Arabia. It showed Laurence
burning a match down to his fingers. I did that. It hurt rather badly,
but I did that to show myself I could handle it. The real T.E. Laurence
did that to show others. I've done that three times in my life, just to
show me.
THAT IS WIMPY SHOW-OFF-NESS..!
> AND TO ALL CASUALTIES OF WAR THROUGHOUT THE
> WORLD; NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, OR WHAT SIDE
> THAT THEY ARE ON; EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO
> PAINKILLERS..!
> EVERYONE..!
If they wish. But there is something better than pain killers. It
is satisfaction with what one has done with one's life.
NOT EVERYONE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY IN LIFE..!
I remember working with a man who's hands had been burned to the
wrists in the war, complete scar tissue. He was an immigrant who chose
America. He was a man who stood for decency. He knew what it was, and
was willing to pay the price to maintain it. Just about any price, from
the looks of him.
OK.
BUT HE IS JUST ONE MAN OUT OF MANY, AND MANY HAVE
HAD TO SUFFER MUCH WORSE..!
I TAKE A PERSPECTIVE OF THE BIG PICTURE; THE WHOLE
PICTURE; THE PICTURE OF ALL PEOPLE, WHO HAVE ALL HAD
TO SUFFER, THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE AGES..!
I take it you work in retail. You are helping others solve
problems in their lives with what you sell. It may be mere food to let
them stay longer in shopping; or something more, such as furniture they
may enjoy for a life time. Whichever, your work does help others, or
you would not be paid for it. Remember it is the customer who pays your
wages; your boss only handles the money. Look at these people, look at
how you can help them. Relax,
TO RELAX IS SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETIMES EASIER SAID THAN DONE..!
let yourself feel some of their desires, their joys and pains.
I'VE SEEN SO MANY SUFFERING PEOPLE; IN THE WORKPLACE; AND
OUTSIDE OF THE WORKPLACE; EQUALLY..!
As you feel more for them, you will see how you
can better help them. And so you will begin to see a place for yourself
within humanity.
(Just remember, you can change your place as you develop grace.
Hence my suggestions about Toastmaster s, Amway, and photography.
They are all ways of developing grace.)
TOASTMASTERS IS WORTHLESS FOR ME;
NETWORK MARKETING IS A FLOPPING FAILURE;
AND PHOTOGRAPHY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME
TO DO; AND IT IS NEARLY A WASTE OF MY TIME
TO DO; IF IT SERVES NO ONE ELSE'S GOOD
PURPOSE IN LIFE, THEN WHY DO IT..! ? ..!
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 12:22:21 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
In-Reply-To: <20051019185313.76023.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 19, 2005 11:53:12 AM
Message-ID: <20051019192217.40449.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I WOULD DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY - WITH AN OVERDOSE
> > OF PAINKILLERS; AS SHOULD ALL SOLDIERS FIGHTING
>
> Ah, so you would require pain killers before you did.
>
> NOT ONLY FOR ME AND ME ALONE; FOR EVERYONE, EQUALLY;
> WITH ZERO EXCLUSION..!
>
> How can you call these people cowards when they risked their lives
>
> without pain killers?
>
> YOU SEPERATED THE FULL LENGTH OF THE SENTENCE THAT
> I TYPED UP, AND HAVEN'T GOT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF WHAT I
> WAS ATTEMPTING TO CONVEY.
It is fairly clear what you are trying to say. You want everyone to
be pain and stress free. It won't happen, and isn't even good; for
without some suffering, there is no joy. No contrast which makes joy
visible, palpable.
> I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROOF OF BUSH SERVING IN ANY HAND TO
> HAND COMBAT, OR KERRY SERVING IN ANY HAND TO HAND
> COMBAT EITHER..!
So what? Remember, "The greatest general wins the war without
fighting a single battle".
> > OVER IN THE MIDDLE BEAST AND OTHER COUNTRIES
> > BE GIVEN LIMITLESS DOSES OF PAINKILLERS FOR ANY
> > AND ALL SUFFERING THAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE
> > THROUGHOUT THIS POLITICAL INDUCED HELL ON EARTH.
>
> It's called narcotics, and it numbs the mind.
>
> IT ALSO NUMBS THE BODY AND THE EMOTIONS TOO..!
And numbing the emotions is what dehumanizes us. Do you want
people to be numbed and dehumanized, enticed into some kind of twilight
existance that isn't quite human?
> Pain tells you that you are alive.
>
> YES; THAT IS CORRECT.
>
> It's part of life.
> I DON'T CONSIDER PAIN TO BE A PART OF LIFE..!
> I CONSIDER PAIN TO BE A PART OF DEATH..!
> LIVING DEATH..!
Yet, you would entice them into a different kind of living death.
A good friend of mine had Neuronitis from stroke. He was in
constant pain; yet he felt the pain medications diminished him so, that
he did not take them except when it was impossible to endure the pain.
And on those days, he stayed home.
> JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF IT, DOESN'T MEAN
> THAT OTHERS ARE NOT..!
> MANY OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are exposed to so little pain in our youth, that we don't
develop much tolerance to it. It wasn't till I got myself hurt badly
several times that I learned to handle it.
Pain is very useful. It teaches us what not to do; before the
damage would be great enough to kill us. Before we form habits that can
kill us.
> I remember the 1962 film Laurence of Arabia. It showed Laurence
> burning a match down to his fingers. I did that. It hurt rather badly,
> but I did that to show myself I could handle it. The real T.E. Laurence
> did that to show others. I've done that three times in my life, just to
> show me.
>
>
> THAT IS WIMPY SHOW-OFF-NESS..!
No it isn't. I like the line he used, when someone else tried it
and howled with pain: "The trick is in not minding that it hurt."
> > AND TO ALL CASUALTIES OF WAR THROUGHOUT THE
> > WORLD; NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, OR WHAT SIDE
> > THAT THEY ARE ON; EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO
> > PAINKILLERS..!
> > EVERYONE..!
>
> If they wish. But there is something better than pain killers. It
> is satisfaction with what one has done with one's life.
>
>
> NOT EVERYONE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY IN LIFE..!
It's more that not everyone TAKES that opportunity. We are all
given it.
> I TAKE A PERSPECTIVE OF THE BIG PICTURE; THE WHOLE
> PICTURE; THE PICTURE OF ALL PEOPLE, WHO HAVE ALL HAD
> TO SUFFER, THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE AGES..!
Are you not glad for where and when you are?
> I take it you work in retail. You are helping others solve
> problems in their lives with what you sell. It may be mere food to let
> them stay longer in shopping; or something more, such as furniture they
> may enjoy for a life time. Whichever, your work does help others, or
> you would not be paid for it. Remember it is the customer who pays your
> wages; your boss only handles the money. Look at these people, look at
> how you can help them. Relax,
>
>
>
> TO RELAX IS SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETIMES EASIER SAID THAN DONE..!
Here's a simple exercise.
Lay down, and spread your arms a little. With your palm down, lift
your hand up 20 to 100 times.
Remember what the arm feels like. That is the feeling of fatigue
and tension. Recognize it. Learn to relax the parts which have it.
This was written up in Science Digest many, many years ago. Quite
effective.
> let yourself feel some of their desires, their joys and pains.
>
> I'VE SEEN SO MANY SUFFERING PEOPLE; IN THE WORKPLACE; AND
> OUTSIDE OF THE WORKPLACE; EQUALLY..!
So? Do you also see their Joy?
> Hence my suggestions about Toastmaster s, Amway, and photography.
>
> They are all ways of developing grace.)
>
> TOASTMASTERS IS WORTHLESS FOR ME;
>
> NETWORK MARKETING IS A FLOPPING FAILURE;
But did you LEARN anything? Amway teaches. It does not have to be a
way of life; but it is one cheap way of learning about life.
> AND PHOTOGRAPHY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME
> TO DO; AND IT IS NEARLY A WASTE OF MY TIME
> TO DO; IF IT SERVES NO ONE ELSE'S GOOD
> PURPOSE IN LIFE, THEN WHY DO IT..! ? ..!
What about you, Clyde? What about developing the ability within
YOU?
Photography is a way of seeing within yourself by seeing what your
eye selects. It is a way of changing yourself, by seeing and changing
what you select.
You need to change yourself, Clyde. You need to open your soul to
the beauty around you. Life is beautiful. Not pure, not all good or
all bad; but filled with beautiful spots, if you wish it to be.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 12:41:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 12:41:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019175648.80557.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051019194148.77809.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Just remember, these SBA people measure their success by how much
money they loan or control; NOT by your success! So take what they say
about accepting loans with a large salt shaker. Or several!
OK.
> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU THAT WHITE LIGHT IS ALWAYS IMPURE..!
It is. White is a mixture of different colored light.
ALTERNATING CURRENT POWERED WHITE LIGHT IS IMPURE..!
PULSED, DIRECT CURRENT POWERED, WHITE LIGHT, IS ALSO IMPURE..!
PURE, FLAT LINED, DISTORTIONLESS, HIGH VOLTAGE, DIRECT CURRENT
POWERED, WHITE LIGHT, *IS PURE*..!
> HIGH VOLTAGE DIRECT CURRENT POWERED WHITE LIGHT ISN'T
> IMPURE; OR IT AT LEAST ISN'T NECESSARILY IMPURE.
Blackness is full of nothing.
NONSENSE..!
What you see in total darkness is mostly neurological "noise".
NONSENSE..!
IT IS BOTH E.M.F. AND FLUCTUATING LIGHT WHICH ARE FULL OF NEUROLOGICAL AND NEUROPHYSIOLOGICAL NOISE..!
> IF GOD EXISTS; WOULD INFINITE VELOCITY EXIST?
Why should it?
IF GOD EXISTS; HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GO ABSOLUTE VELOCITY..!
INFINITE VELOCITY IS SMALL, RELATIVE TO ABSOLUTE VELOCITY..!
> IT IS MY WILL TO EVENTUALLY LIVE IN A BUCKMINSTER FULLER
> STYLE, WELDED ONE PIECE GEODESIC SELF SUSTAINING
> DOME BIOSPHERE.
So you can control your environment.
I NO LONGER LIKE THE WORD: ENVIRONMENT, BUT FOR THE LACKING
OF A BETTER OVERLY USED WORD, I WILL USE THE WORD ENVIRONMENT.
BUT YES; SO I CAN CONTROL MY ENVIRONMENT!
I WANT ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF MY ATMOSPHERE, AND MY ECOLOGY..!
WHICH MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NEVER HAPPEN, EXCEPT IN A HEAVENLY
EXISTANCE AND REALITY.
Tell me, Clyde, would you have met me if you lived in that sealed
dome?
NO.
Would you meet anyone really interesting if you lived in that
sealed dome or orbiting space ship?
NO.
What would you have done with yourself if you had not met some of
us?
IF I HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO SO; I WOULD BECOME PURE, POISONLESS, AND PERVERSELESS, PURE ENERGY..!
Have we not sparked some interest?
YES.
Have we not helped you grow, as you have helped us grow?
YES.
> Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way
> around. Economics, not technology, drive this world.
WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REASON WHY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES ARE REPRESSED.
No.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU;
THERE ARE SO MANY GREEDY AND PREJUDICED CAPITALISTS OUT
THERE;
ON THE OTHER HAND; THERE IS AN EQUIVALENCE OF SOCIAL, POLITICAL,
AND ECONOMIC DIVIDE BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES,
AS WELL AS THE GREED..!
BUT THERE CAN BE A DIFFERENCE..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 19 18:10:35 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:10:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/t
In-Reply-To: <20051019194148.77809.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 19, 2005 12:41:47 PM
Message-ID: <20051020011035.33153.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I DON'T BELIEVE YOU THAT WHITE LIGHT IS ALWAYS IMPURE..!
>
> It is. White is a mixture of different colored light.
>
>
> ALTERNATING CURRENT POWERED WHITE LIGHT IS IMPURE..!
> PULSED, DIRECT CURRENT POWERED, WHITE LIGHT, IS ALSO IMPURE..!
> PURE, FLAT LINED, DISTORTIONLESS, HIGH VOLTAGE, DIRECT CURRENT
> POWERED, WHITE LIGHT, *IS PURE*..!
Go google light. You'll find all the spectral curves and stuff you
need to see that white light is a mix of other colors. That's just the
physics of how things work. We scientists have to rely on physics.
> Blackness is full of nothing.
>
> NONSENSE..!
>
> What you see in total darkness is mostly neurological "noise".
>
> NONSENSE..!
Google something like: eye color retina
> > IF GOD EXISTS; WOULD INFINITE VELOCITY EXIST?
>
> Why should it?
>
> IF GOD EXISTS; HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GO ABSOLUTE VELOCITY..!
> INFINITE VELOCITY IS SMALL, RELATIVE TO ABSOLUTE VELOCITY..!
Actually, that's religion. We are scientists. We can't go to
infinite velocity. Not even if a priest kicks us in the rear.
> > IT IS MY WILL TO EVENTUALLY LIVE IN A BUCKMINSTER FULLER
> > STYLE, WELDED ONE PIECE GEODESIC SELF SUSTAINING
> > DOME BIOSPHERE.
>
> So you can control your environment.
>
> I NO LONGER LIKE THE WORD: ENVIRONMENT, BUT FOR THE LACKING
> OF A BETTER OVERLY USED WORD, I WILL USE THE WORD ENVIRONMENT.
> BUT YES; SO I CAN CONTROL MY ENVIRONMENT!
>
> I WANT ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF MY ATMOSPHERE, AND MY ECOLOGY..!
> WHICH MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NEVER HAPPEN, EXCEPT IN A HEAVENLY
> EXISTANCE AND REALITY.
Not going to help. First, because you can't have absolute control,
and second, because no one is smart enough yet to know what to do with
absolute control.
Long, long ago, when I was in high school, I looked at aquariums.
All that crap algae, bubblers, etc. I wanted a super-clean aquarium!
Then one day, I saw the most vital aquarium I'd ever seen. It was a big
glass jar with a little bubbler that let an occasional large bubble up.
Plenty of algae, etc. Not enough air, I commented to the owner. Never a
problem with that, he said, not much to feeding it either, as the fish
eat the algae and plants, the plants and algae eat the poop, etc. Sure,
he fed them some; but it was a happy, well balanced aquarium with very
little maintenance.
Plants and animals do strange things, things they want to do. Even
man's best friend, the dog, does what he or she wants to do.
And absolute control is boring as all heck! What do you like to
watch, the perfect pendulum, or a Focault Pendulum? Or a pendulum
perturbed now and then by something else, like birds flying through, or
some magnets underneath which make the pendulum path uncertain?
> Tell me, Clyde, would you have met me if you lived in that sealed
> dome?
>
> NO.
> Would you meet anyone really interesting if you lived in that
> sealed dome or orbiting space ship?
>
> NO.
>
> What would you have done with yourself if you had not met some of
> us?
>
>
> IF I HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO SO; I WOULD BECOME PURE, POISONLESS, AND
PERVERSELESS, PURE ENERGY..!
And bored out of your wits! Cabin fever, it's called. Very well
known phenomenon in places like Alaska, where people see few other
people in the winter.
> Have we not sparked some interest?
>
> YES.
>
> Have we not helped you grow, as you have helped us grow?
>
> YES.
So not being in the space ship apart from humanity is good.
I mean, will you ever find a girl in your space ship? And if she
visited, would she want to stay, with only you there, and no social
contact? I think not.
> > Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way
> > around. Economics, not technology, drive this world.
>
> WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REASON WHY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES ARE REPRESSED.
>
> No.
>
> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU;
>
> THERE ARE SO MANY GREEDY AND PREJUDICED CAPITALISTS OUT
> THERE;
Capitalists want to make a buck, yes. Greed is good, to a point.
Greed with disregard for others is bad. It's the disregard for others,
which causes Enrons, Worldcoms, etc.
> ON THE OTHER HAND; THERE IS AN EQUIVALENCE OF SOCIAL, POLITICAL,
> AND ECONOMIC DIVIDE BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES,
> AS WELL AS THE GREED..!
> BUT THERE CAN BE A DIFFERENCE..!
I am not sure as I understand what you are saying here.
"Equivalence"? "Difference?" There appears to be some syntactical
error in your reply. But it could be semantic. To use Rhoda's favorite
statement, "Does not compute."
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
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My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 18:18:22 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:18:27 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051019175648.80557.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051020011822.71089.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
REDBUD VALLEY IS ABOUT ALL OF THE BEUTY THAT THIS
PART OF OKLAHOMA HAS TO OFFER..!
Oh, bull! I can walk down just about any street of any
neighborhood in any part of the country, and see something beautiful in
one way or another. Things from building architecture, to how a little
girl plays with her puppy dog.
ACTUALLY WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY EARLIER, IS THAT REDBUD VALLEY
IS ABOUT ALL OF THE BEAUTY THAT *TULSA OKLAHOMA* HAS TO OFFER..!
Clyde, Beauty is EVERYWHERE! You just have to relax and open your
eyes to it!
PAIN AND SUFFERING ARE ALSO EVERYWHERE AS WELL..!
How did I re-learn this in this god forsaken mountain of drunks,
skunks, and sand? By getting up every morning and going out looking for
it. Neat patters in the sand, the way some birds stand and look at you,
their songs, the flowers, red ferns in the sunrise, the glint of
sunlight on dew... on and on and on!
You don't have to be Ansel Adams to see and photograph beauty. You
just have to open your mind, take a lot of pictures, and throw most of
them out.
The world is a beautiful place! Sure, there are awful things too,
THIS PLANET IS DISEASED..!
like the dead deer skellaton I found up here, the rot of this or that,
the fungi harming the pine trees, etc.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 18:43:17 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:43:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com
In-Reply-To: <20051020011035.33153.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051020014317.52816.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
So not being in the space ship apart from humanity is good.
I DON'T LIKE HUMANITY ANYMORE..!
I mean, will you ever find a girl in your space ship? And if she
visited, would she want to stay, with only you there, and no social
contact? I think not.
I DON'T WANT A SPACESHIP WITH ANY OTHER OCCUPANTS, UNLESS
EVERYONE CAN BE AT LASTING PEACE WITH ONE ANOTHER..!
> > Technology must serve a purpose, not the other way
> > around. Economics, not technology, drive this world.
>
> WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REASON WHY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES ARE REPRESSED.
>
> No.
>
> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU;
>
> THERE ARE SO MANY GREEDY AND PREJUDICED CAPITALISTS OUT
> THERE;
Capitalists want to make a buck, yes. Greed is good, to a point.
Greed with disregard for others is bad. It's the disregard for others,
which causes Enrons, Worldcoms, etc.
> ON THE OTHER HAND; THERE IS AN EQUIVALENCE OF SOCIAL, POLITICAL,
> AND ECONOMIC DIVIDE BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES,
1. SOCIAL MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
2. POLITICAL MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
3. ECONOMIC MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
> AS WELL AS THE GREED..!
4. GREED: JUST PLAIN, AVERAGE, EVERYDAY, ORDINARY, CARE FOR
NO ONE ELSE BUT ONES'SELF; GREED.
> BUT THERE CAN BE A DIFFERENCE..!
SOCIAL, POLITICAL, AND ECONOMIC STATUS MISUNDERSTANDINGS VS.
JUST PLAIN, AVERAGE, EVERYDAY, ORDINARY GREED..!
I am not sure as I understand what you are saying here.
"Equivalence"? "Difference?" There appears to be some syntactical
error in your reply. But it could be semantic. To use Rhoda's favorite
statement, "Does not compute."
DOES THE ABOVE CLARIFY?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 18:55:26 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:55:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Heaven Nine Eleven. By, Tesla (the band).
Message-ID: <20051020015526.27334.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Song: HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN.
Band: Tesla (the band).
Lyrics by: Hannon.
Tell me why there's so much pain today.
Cause taking lives is for their gain, or
so they say.
I can't believe it but they feel this way.
And that's the way of the world.
Tell me why it takes a tragedy to see.
To wake us up, and bring us down to
our knees.
All the people suffering with disease.
And that's the way, that's the way,
that's the weight of the world.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the sun burn's the ground, there's
gotta be another way.
Is our God looking down, and does he
feel everybody's pain.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
Teach the children what it means to
love.
And show them why that we can never
give enough.
Let's work together, we can rise above.
And change the ways, change the
ways, change the ways of the world.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the sky turns to brown, there's
gotta be another way.
Is our God looking down, and does he
feel everybody's pain.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the sun burn's the ground, there's
gotta be another way.
Is our God looking down, and does
he feel everybody's pain.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
As the sky turns to brown, there's
gotta be another way.
Is our God looking down, and does he
feel everybody's pain.
As the world crashes down, heaven's
looking better everyday.
Heaven's looking better now.
Heaven's looking better now.
Heaven's looking better now.
Heaven's looking better.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 18:57:35 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:57:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNDER THE SAME SUN; LYRICS AND SONG;
BY: THE SCORPIONS
Message-ID: <20051020015735.77629.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
UNDER THE SAME SUN; LYRICS AND SONG; BY:
THE SCORPIONS:
http://scorpions.donthum.com/underthesamesunlyrics.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 18:58:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 18:59:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Independent World Television.
In-Reply-To: <20051012012111.85457.qmail@web52807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051020015825.88327.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
wrote:
Finally, a bunch of media activists have banded together and have
created an independently funded and produced news channel called
Independent World Television or IWT News.
Check out their 5 minute promotional video here:
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/inbrief
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 19:00:36 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:00:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
CABINET ROOM..!
Message-ID: <20051020020037.37473.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
FURTHER REVISION:
,
GET THE FRAT BOYS OF FREEMASONRY, THE
KU KLUX KLANSMEN, THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY,
THE ROSICRUCIANS, THE SKULL AND BONES
SOCIETY, THE BOHEMIAN GROVE ORDER OF
DEATHMONGERS, THE MUSLIM AKDAR SHRINERS,
THE LUCIS LUCIFER'S UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS
NEW AGE HOMOSEXUAL SO-CALLED TRUST -
LUCIFERIANS, AND ALL OTHER HARMFUL SECRET
OCCULT SOCIETIES - TOGETHER IN A CABINET
ROOM, WITH THE MEANEST OF THE MEAN: WHITE,
BLACK, ORIENTAL, HISPANIC, AND OTHER GANSTER
BOYS, FROM THE STREETS OF THE HOODS, AND
LET THE GANSTERS KICK THOSE FRAT BOYS DIRTY
ROTTEN FILTHY STINKING RICH ASSES TO HELL..!
I WANT AMERICA TO SURVIVE..!
1. WE NEED DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
2. WE NEED DRASTIC CHANGES IN ENERGY
AND TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES..!
3. BOTH OF THE ABOVE: A.S.A.P..!
CLYDE LOFTON
clydelofton@yahoo.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 19:17:42 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:17:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.peakoil.com/post36175.html
Message-ID: <20051020021742.77511.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.peakoil.com/post36175.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 19 19:24:11 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:24:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051020020037.37473.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 19, 2005 07:00:36 PM
Message-ID: <20051020022411.70733.qmail@mall-net.com>
> GET THE FRAT BOYS OF FREEMASONRY, THE
> KU KLUX KLANSMEN, THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY,
> THE ROSICRUCIANS, THE SKULL AND BONES
> SOCIETY, THE BOHEMIAN GROVE ORDER OF
> DEATHMONGERS, THE MUSLIM AKDAR SHRINERS,
> THE LUCIS LUCIFER'S UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS
> NEW AGE HOMOSEXUAL SO-CALLED TRUST -
> LUCIFERIANS, AND ALL OTHER HARMFUL SECRET
> OCCULT SOCIETIES - TOGETHER IN A CABINET
> ROOM, WITH THE MEANEST OF THE MEAN: WHITE,
> BLACK, ORIENTAL, HISPANIC, AND OTHER GANSTER
> BOYS, FROM THE STREETS OF THE HOODS, AND
> LET THE GANSTERS KICK THOSE FRAT BOYS DIRTY
> ROTTEN FILTHY STINKING RICH ASSES TO HELL..!
Is violence the solution?
And by the way, Buckminster Fuller was a rich frat boy type who
blew all his money on the Rockettes when he went to college.
> I WANT AMERICA TO SURVIVE..!
Does internal violence help America survive?
> 1. WE NEED DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
What is moral? Easy to say, hard to say what it means.
That's a real tough one, because what some call immoral when done
to them, they will gladly do to another.
And despite all this, we are still the most moral people compared
to a lot of other nations.
You are driving around lost. What do you do? You ask a perfict
stranger where such-and-such is. I've always been told the truth! Yet
in many other countries, it is more likely you will be told a lie.
> 2. WE NEED DRASTIC CHANGES IN ENERGY
> AND TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES..!
We do need new energy sources!
> 3. BOTH OF THE ABOVE: A.S.A.P..!
No, slow enough to adapt. Sudden change causes problems too.
Change needs to come at a pace people can handle. And it usually does,
even though invariably, some portion of the population does get
seriously damaged.
Like the computer revolution. 1981, IBM announces the IBM PC. By
the mid to late 1980's, huge layoffs in middle management rattled the
economy as the PC and growing use of spreadsheets, databases, and e-mail
in business rendered layers of middle management, as well as secretaries
obsolete. There were huge questions over what was happening in America.
This same revolution also catapulted minorities and women into positions
of some power. IBM's ads said that anyone with a PC and some
spreadsheets could be trusted to make decent business decisions. And
that's what happened. (Apple, on the other hand... went off the
graphics end and just about losing the business market.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 19:30:14 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:30:24 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AGAINST THE BEAST.
Message-ID: <20051020023014.34212.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
AGAINST THE BEAST:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/bookSearch/isbnInquiry.asp?r=1&isbn=1560255137
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 19:41:54 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 19 19:42:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051020022411.70733.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051020024154.30963.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> GET THE FRAT BOYS OF FREEMASONRY, THE
> KU KLUX KLANSMEN, THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY,
> THE ROSICRUCIANS, THE SKULL AND BONES
> SOCIETY, THE BOHEMIAN GROVE ORDER OF
> DEATHMONGERS, THE MUSLIM AKDAR SHRINERS,
> THE LUCIS LUCIFER'S UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS
> NEW AGE HOMOSEXUAL SO-CALLED TRUST -
> LUCIFERIANS, AND ALL OTHER HARMFUL SECRET
> OCCULT SOCIETIES - TOGETHER IN A CABINET
> ROOM, WITH THE MEANEST OF THE MEAN: WHITE,
> BLACK, ORIENTAL, HISPANIC, AND OTHER GANSTER
> BOYS, FROM THE STREETS OF THE HOODS, AND
> LET THE GANSTERS KICK THOSE FRAT BOYS DIRTY
> ROTTEN FILTHY STINKING RICH ASSES TO HELL..!
Is violence the solution?
YES AND NO..!
IF THE POWERS THAT BE WANT VIOLENCE; THEN LET THE
GANG THUGS HAVE IT OUT WITH THE FREEMASONS, AND
ALL OF THE OTHER ABOVE NAMED....
PEACE IS WHAT I PREFER.
BUT THE POWERS THAT BE, EVIDENTLY DO NOT WANT
PEACE..!
PEACE!
AND PEACE BE UPON US ALL!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 09:00:51 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 20 09:00:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: BREAKING THE BEAST.
Message-ID: <20051020160051.8295.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
WEBLINKS:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=60809
http://www.fza.org/index.php?p=378
http://www.fza.org/index.php?p=60
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 09:12:02 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 20 09:12:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: AGAINST THE BEAST.
Message-ID: <20051020161202.20561.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
wrote:
wrote:
> Looks like a good book, the kind that I would
> read if I had the time and money. Gore Vidal
> is a very smart man. Most Americans would
> do well to remember that this country was
> founded on the ideas of anti-imperialism and
> anti-colonialism.
> (EDITED AND REVISED:)
> YEAH; IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE ARE UP AGAINST THE
> BEAST OF BIBLICAL PROPHESY - LIKENED TO THE MATRIX IN
> A WAY.
> THE CABLE NETWORKS, THE CELL PHONE NETWORKS,
> BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES, THE ELECTRICAL POWER
> GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION INTRAFUCKTURE, THE
> CONVENTION MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT, THE MASS MEDIA
> INTRAFUCKTURE, THE SOCIAL SLAVERY SO-CALLED SECURITY
> SHYTSTEM, ETC.... IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE GRID
> AND ALL ARE DESTINED TO BECOME AN ALL CONTROLLING
> SELF AWARE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE; BUT MAYBE IT HAS
> BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME NOW ALREADY, AND WE
> JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ENTIRELY AWARE OF ITS EXISTANCE,
> AND ITS POTENTIAL INVASIVENESS INTO ALL OF OUR LIVES.
>
> LATER, CLYDE
> --- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> AGAINST THE BEAST:
>
> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/bookSearch/isbnInquiry.aspr=1&isbn=1560255137
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 09:19:48 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 20 09:19:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (CORRECTION TO WEBLINK;) Re: AGAINST THE BEAST.
Message-ID: <20051020161948.16042.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
wrote:
wrote:
> Looks like a good book, the kind that I would
> read if I had the time and money. Gore Vidal
> is a very smart man. Most Americans would
> do well to remember that this country was
> founded on the ideas of anti-imperialism and
> anti-colonialism.
> (EDITED AND REVISED:)
> YEAH; IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE ARE UP AGAINST THE
> BEAST OF BIBLICAL PROPHESY - LIKENED TO THE MATRIX IN
> A WAY.
> THE CABLE NETWORKS, THE CELL PHONE NETWORKS,
> BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES, THE ELECTRICAL POWER
> GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION INTRAFUCKTURE, THE
> CONVENTION MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT, THE MASS MEDIA
> INTRAFUCKTURE, THE SOCIAL SLAVERY SO-CALLED SECURITY
> SHYTSTEM, ETC.... IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE GRID
> AND ALL ARE DESTINED TO BECOME AN ALL CONTROLLING
> SELF AWARE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE; BUT MAYBE IT HAS
> BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME NOW ALREADY, AND WE
> JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ENTIRELY AWARE OF ITS EXISTANCE,
> AND ITS POTENTIAL INVASIVENESS INTO ALL OF OUR LIVES.
>
> LATER, CLYDE
> --- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> AGAINST THE BEAST:
>
> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/bookSearch/isbnInquiry.asp?r=1&isbn=1560255137
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Oct 20 14:41:21 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Thu Oct 20 14:41:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Report from the Scopes Monkey trial sequel
Message-ID: <007b01c5d5bf$038b0740$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Witness Defends Broad Definition of Science
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
Published: October 19, 2005, in _The New York Times_
HARRISBURG, Pa., Oct. 18 - A leading architect of the intelligent-design
movement defended his ideas in a federal courtroom on Tuesday and
acknowledged that under his definition of a scientific theory, astrology
would fit as neatly as intelligent design.
Full article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/19/national/19evolution.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/78hs5
From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 20 20:25:37 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 20 20:25:46 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Report from the Scopes Monkey trial sequel
In-Reply-To: <007b01c5d5bf$038b0740$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
20, 2005 05:41:21 PM
Message-ID: <20051021032537.7781.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Witness Defends Broad Definition of Science
Witless, not witness.
> By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
> Published: October 19, 2005, in _The New York Times_
>
> HARRISBURG, Pa., Oct. 18 - A leading architect of the intelligent-design
> movement defended his ideas in a federal courtroom on Tuesday and
> acknowledged that under his definition of a scientific theory, astrology
> would fit as neatly as intelligent design.
Why not? Astral potentials obviously have some pull on this man's
mind! Therefore, they have potential influence.
We do see some statistical correlations between birth dates and
interests, professions, etc.; but these are more likely due to the
cyclical nature of food sources, as well as other neo and peri natal
conditions; the stars being rather far away.
The more prophetic aspects of astrology are indeed a skilled art,
one dealing with carefully crafted vagueness based upon statistical
tendencies and a liberal dose of self fulfilling prophetic verbage.
There are some highly skilled practitioners of this art. Though if one
reads predictions for other dates, one is likely to find apparently more
applicable prophecies.
After all, Astrologers are still among the April Fools who didn't
adjust their calendar in 1582, rendering December the twelfth month,
rather than the tenth month.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Fri Oct 21 00:16:55 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Fri Oct 21 00:17:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018180646.97359.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051021071655.12682.qmail@web411.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:> > -Do you feel that free energy should be "every man for himself", with
> only the smart and industrious benefiting?
>
> Yep. that's the way all revolutions are. that's how the computer
> revolution started, how the cold fusion revolution started, etc. (Cold
> fusion just didn't get hot enough.) The internet boom too!
> -Well, I for one am looking out for myself. But I'm willing to help
others at the same time. And the first shot has already been fired, as
my burnt out motor home shows.
Why do you equate that with nefarious elements? Motor homes burn
up all the time. Worn wiring jiggling about too much, poor this, cheap
that, etc. I'v seen enough carcasses of them.
-The fire started in a five foot circle on the roof. The flames were pale and elongated, and pulsed upwards really fast in random, sequential areas of the circle. Many more non-natural effects were involved and occured.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 05:17:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MAD-SCIENTISTS ARCHIVES.
Message-ID: <20051021121739.43664.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
BRETT,
HERE IS THE WEBLINK TO THE MAD-SCIENTISTS
ARCHIVES.
IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT READ INTO IT ALREADY,
WHICH I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN
MUCH OF IT, IF NOT ALL OF IT ALREADY; HERE IT
IS, FOR YOU AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists
YOU CAN READ ALL OF THE GOOD, THE MAD, AND
THE UGLY;
ALL OF THE CHAOS, CONFUSION, CONTROVERSY,
AND ALL OF THE CUSSWORDS AS WELL.
PEACE, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 05:21:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 05:21:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ACCIDENTAL SEND TO THE WRONG ADDRESS....
In-Reply-To: <20051021121739.43664.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051021122147.44434.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
THIS WAS AN ACCIDENTAL SEND TO THE MAD-SCI
LIST.
I DON'T KNOW IF IGOR CAN SCRUB IT FROM THE
LIST, OR NOT.
CLYDE
clyde lofton wrote:
BRETT,
HERE IS THE WEBLINK TO THE MAD-SCIENTISTS
ARCHIVES.
IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT READ INTO IT ALREADY,
WHICH I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN
MUCH OF IT, IF NOT ALL OF IT ALREADY; HERE IT
IS, FOR YOU AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists
YOU CAN READ ALL OF THE GOOD, THE MAD, AND
THE UGLY;
ALL OF THE CHAOS, CONFUSION, CONTROVERSY,
AND ALL OF THE CUSSWORDS AS WELL.
PEACE, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 05:36:04 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 05:36:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051020022411.70733.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051021123604.61868.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> GET THE FRAT BOYS OF FREEMASONRY, THE
> KU KLUX KLANSMEN, THE ORDER OF DE MOLAY,
> THE ROSICRUCIANS, THE SKULL AND BONES
> SOCIETY, THE BOHEMIAN GROVE ORDER OF
> DEATHMONGERS, THE MUSLIM AKDAR SHRINERS,
> THE LUCIS LUCIFER'S UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS
> NEW AGE HOMOSEXUAL SO-CALLED TRUST -
> LUCIFERIANS, AND ALL OTHER HARMFUL SECRET
> OCCULT SOCIETIES - TOGETHER IN A CABINET
> ROOM, WITH THE MEANEST OF THE MEAN: WHITE,
> BLACK, ORIENTAL, HISPANIC, AND OTHER GANSTER
> BOYS, FROM THE STREETS OF THE HOODS, AND
> LET THE GANSTERS KICK THOSE FRAT BOYS DIRTY
> ROTTEN FILTHY STINKING RICH ASSES TO HELL..!
>
> 1. WE NEED DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
What is moral?
SUCCINCT, TRITE NOTES, FROM WEBSTERS DICTIONARY
REGARDING MORALITY:
1. A STANDARD.
2. STANDARDS.
3. ESTABLISHED STANDARD.
4. ESTABLISHED STANDARDS.
5. ETHICAL.
6. FAIR.
7. FAIRNESS.
8. GUILTLESSNESS.
9. BLAMELESSNESS.
You are driving around lost. What do you do? You ask a perfect
stranger where such-and-such is. I've always been told the truth! Yet
in many other countries, it is more likely you will be told a lie.
YES; YOU ARE RIGHT..!
Like the computer revolution. 1981, IBM announces the IBM PC. By
the mid to late 1980's, huge layoffs in middle management rattled the
economy as the PC and growing use of spreadsheets, databases, and e-mail
in business rendered layers of middle management, as well as secretaries
obsolete. There were huge questions over what was happening in America.
This same revolution also catapulted minorities and women into positions
of some power. IBM's ads said that anyone with a PC and some
spreadsheets could be trusted to make decent business decisions. And
that's what happened. (Apple, on the other hand... went off the
graphics end and just about losing the business market.)
OK.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 06:07:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 06:07:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051018183319.15620.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051021130710.83433.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I can see their point. Sure, there are freedom of speech issues as
> well. It's not a clean cut case.
>
> But what would you be doing, Clyde? Defaming Tulsa on your
> broadcasts?
>
> NO; ONLY ATTEMPTING TO WAKE UP THE HALF BRAIN DEAD PEOPLE OF
> THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF FOREVER GO NO WHERE ALSUMA TULSA, TO
Most people would rather sleep than think. (Sometimes I agree with
them, though more often not.)
I AGREE; I WOULD RATHER PEACEFULLY SLEEP FOREVER; BUT IF I
COULD LIVE IN PERFECT PERMANENT PEACE, AND SLEEP IN PERFECT
PERMANENT PEACE.... THAT IS WHAT I WISH FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF;
BUT EQUALLY AS WELL FOR EVERYONE..!
> TRY TO MAKE THIS PLACE A BETTER PLACE; A BOOMTOWN, INSTEAD OF
> AN EVER ENDLESS HALF RUN DOWN BROKETOWN..!
That requires quite a bit of work...
HOW MUCH WORK?
WORK IN ABSOLUTE VAIN?
THE PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM, OF FASCIST NEOCON, AND
COMMUNIST NEOLIB, UNION-ONION-ALSUMA-TULSA DO NOT CARE
ABOUT HOW CLEAN THIS PLACE IS: MORALLY; ATMOSPHERICALLY;
AND ECOLOGICALLY..!
EVERYONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE, ARE IN A CHAOTIC BRAINDEAD, OR
NEARLY BRAINDEAD CHAOTIC HELL ON EARTH..!
TULSA TIME IS LOOKING MUCH CLEARER TO ME NOW....
TULSA IS A BLACK HOLE..!
WHERE IT USED TO BE A PETROLEUM OIL, BLACK HOLE....
IT IS NOW A PETROLEUM OIL DRAINED, DARK ENERGY
SINKHOLE.
I AM SCARED AT TIMES, TO GO DOWNSLUM.
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR SOULS, TO THIS
DARK LIGHT ENERGY EMPIRE.
SO MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE DOWNSLUM..!
I DON'T LIKE GOING DOWNSLUM.
> Just dont' start any riots, Clyde; that's bad for the karma.
>
> I DON'T INTEND TO START ANY RIOTS.
>
> IF THERE ARE ANY RIOTS IT WILL BE YOUTH AGAINST ADULTS, BECAUSE
>
> CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN; ADULTS GO TO HELL!
I DO THINK ABOUT BAD KARMA AT TIMES.
PERMANENT PEACE IS OF UTMOST MOST IMPORTANCE FOR NOT
ONLY MYSELF; BUT EQUALLY FOR OTHERS AS WELL; BUT I CANNOT
CONTINUE LIKE I AM; CARRYING THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD'S
PROBLEMS AND TROUBLES ON MY CHEST.
WHEN NO ONE CARES ABOUT IMPROVING THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM,
WHAT IS ONE SUPPOSED TO DO?
I'D MOVE OUT OF THIS EVER GO NOWHERE SHITHOLE STATE; BUT I
AM LIVING BLINDLY.
1. BLINDLY BECAUSE OF THE EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM.
2. BLINDLY BECAUSE OF BOTH OF MY PARENTS.
3. CONSISTENT INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS.
4. FEAR OF FAILURE.
> CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN, ADULTS GO TO HELL..!
An interesting piece of theology...
And why might this be?
I DON'T KNOW WHY MIGHT THIS BE?
Does that make you afraid of becoming one of them?
WHO IS THEM?
ADULTS OR CHILDREN?
LATER, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 09:11:11 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 09:11:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: HERMANN GORING;
AT THE NUREMBURG WAR TRIALS.
Message-ID: <20051021161111.64217.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
" OF COURSE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT WAR. BUT AFTER ALL, IT'S THE
LEADERS OF THE COUNTRY WHO DETERMINE THE POLICY, AND IT'S
ALWAYS A SIMPLE MATTER TO DRAG THE PEOPLE ALONG, WHETHER IT'S A DEMOCRACY, A FASCIST DICTATORSHIP, OR A PARLIAMENT,, OR A
COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP. VOICE OR NO VOICE; THE PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS
BE BROUGHT TO THE BIDDING OF THEIR LEADERS. THAT IS EASY. ALL
YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, AND
DENOUNCE THE PACIFISTS FOR LACK OF PATRIOTISM, AND EXPOSING
THE COUNTRY TO GREATER DANGER. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY. "
REICH MARSHALL: HERMANN GORING, AT THE NUREMBURG WAR TRIALS.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 09:18:58 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 09:19:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) QUOTING: HERMANN GORING;
AT THE NUREMBURG WAR TRIALS.
Message-ID: <20051021161858.22220.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
(REVISED:)
"OF COURSE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT WAR. BUT AFTER
ALL, IT'S THE LEADERS OF THE COUNTRY WHO DETERMINE
THE POLICY, AND IT'S ALWAYS A SIMPLE MATTER TO DRAG
THE PEOPLE ALONG, WHETHER IT'S A DEMOCRACY, A
FASCIST DICTATORSHIP, OR A PARLIAMENT, OR A
COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP. VOICE OR NO VOICE; THE
PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS BE BROUGHT TO THE BIDDING OF
THEIR LEADERS. THAT IS EASY. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
TO TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED AND
DENOUNCE THE PACIFISTS FOR LACK OF PATRIOTISM AND
EXPOSING THE COUNTRY TO GREATER DANGER. IT WORKS
THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
REICH MARSHALL: HERMANN GORING, AT THE NUREMBURG
WAR TRIALS.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 11:55:58 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 11:56:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
Message-ID: <20051021185558.51553.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED BY OBSERVATION
WHEN I VISITED BOTH MY DECEASED BROTHER, AND
A DECEASED FRIEND THE OTHER DAY, DURING THE
AFTERNOON AT ONE OF THE LOCAL TULSA
CEMETARIES.
ALL OF YOU NUMERIC / MATHEMATIC MAD SCIENTISTS
OUT THERE; CAN YOU WORK ANY NUMBERS TO FIND
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CORRELATION BETWEEN 666,
THE # OF THE BEAST, AND THE THREE PHASES OF
60 CYCLE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION AND
TRANSMISSION, ALONG WITH OTHER ODD AND CRAZY
STUFF; LIKE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES,
THE KOMMUNIST KABLE NETWERKS, THE CELLULAR
TELEPHONE NETWERKS, AND EVEN THE MILITARY
AND DOPPLER RADAR INSTALLATIONS OF THE
MEDIA-MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNIONISMPLEX???
JERRY VOLLAND SAID THAT 666 IS PLAINLY A MYTH,
AND THAT THERE IS TRUE MEANING IN THE # 600; BUT
IS THERE ANY SYMBOLISM IN THAT???; AND STILL I
ASK; WHAT DOES THE BEAST HAVE TO DO WITH
THE TOTALITARIAN KONTROL INTRFUCKTURE THAT WE
THE PEOPLE ARE ALL UNDER TODAY???
THE GRID / THE MATRIX / THE BEAST..! ???
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 12:08:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 12:08:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (WITH SPELLING CORRECTION:) ISN'T IT
INTERESTING....
Message-ID: <20051021190801.66924.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
(WITH SPELLING CORRECTION:)
ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED BY OBSERVATION
WHEN I VISITED BOTH MY DECEASED BROTHER, AND
A DECEASED FRIEND THE OTHER DAY, DURING THE
AFTERNOON AT ONE OF THE LOCAL TULSA
CEMETARIES.
ALL OF YOU NUMERIC / MATHEMATIC MAD SCIENTISTS
OUT THERE; CAN YOU WORK ANY NUMBERS TO FIND
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CORRELATION BETWEEN 666,
THE # OF THE BEAST, AND THE THREE PHASES OF
60 CYCLE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION AND
TRANSMISSION, ALONG WITH OTHER ODD AND CRAZY
STUFF; LIKE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES,
THE KOMMUNIST KABLE NETWERKS, THE CELLULAR
TELEPHONE NETWERKS, AND EVEN THE MILITARY
AND DOPPLER RADAR INSTALLATIONS OF THE
MEDIA-MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNIONISMPLEX???
JERRY VOLLAND SAID THAT 666 IS PLAINLY A MYTH,
AND THAT THERE IS TRUE MEANING IN THE # 600; BUT
IS THERE ANY SYMBOLISM IN THAT???; AND STILL I
ASK; WHAT DOES THE BEAST HAVE TO DO WITH
THE TOTALITARIAN KONTROL INTRAFUCKTURE THAT WE
THE PEOPLE ARE ALL UNDER TODAY???
THE GRID / THE MATRIX / THE BEAST..! ???
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 12:40:22 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 12:40:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS....
Message-ID: <20051021194022.13151.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
WEBLINKS:
1. http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/464210.html
2. http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/
3. http://www.family.org/welcome/intl/
4. http://www.songs-and-lyrics.com/m/mudvayne/lost_and_found/Happy.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 21 13:21:52 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 13:21:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051021123604.61868.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 21, 2005 05:36:04 AM
Message-ID: <20051021202152.98866.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > 1. WE NEED DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
>
> What is moral?
>
> SUCCINCT, TRITE NOTES, FROM WEBSTERS DICTIONARY
> REGARDING MORALITY:
>
> 1. A STANDARD.
> 2. STANDARDS.
> 3. ESTABLISHED STANDARD.
> 4. ESTABLISHED STANDARDS.
> 5. ETHICAL.
> 6. FAIR.
> 7. FAIRNESS.
> 8. GUILTLESSNESS.
> 9. BLAMELESSNESS.
Really does not say much, does it?
So how do you know that it would help?
The process of revolution, however, would upset standards and
everything else, causing more harm.
> You are driving around lost. What do you do? You ask a perfect
> stranger where such-and-such is. I've always been told the truth! Yet
> in many other countries, it is more likely you will be told a lie.
>
> YES; YOU ARE RIGHT..!
That's one of the things I love about this country!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 17:25:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 21 17:25:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051021202152.98866.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051022002500.9635.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > 1. WE NEED DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
>
> What is moral?
>
> SUCCINCT, TRITE NOTES, FROM WEBSTERS
> DICTIONARY REGARDING MORALITY:
>
> 1. A STANDARD.
> 2. STANDARDS.
> 3. ESTABLISHED STANDARD.
> 4. ESTABLISHED STANDARDS.
> 5. ETHICAL.
> 6. FAIR.
> 7. FAIRNESS.
> 8. GUILTLESSNESS.
> 9. BLAMELESSNESS.
Really does not say much, does it?
I THINK IT SAYS A LOT..!
BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
MORALITY SEEMS TO BE LIKE;
OR MORALITY SEEMS TO BE AS:
1. INNOCENCE VS. CORRUPTION;
2. INNOCENCE VS. INNOCENCE LOST;
3. JUSTICE VS. JUSTICE LOST..!
So how do you know that it would help?
TULSA CERTAINLY NEEDS A CODE OF ETHICS, VERY
VERY BADLY; AND IT IS VERY VERY LONG OVERDUE..!
THE SHITTY OFFICIALS ARE STIFLING ITS CREATION;
OR ARE AT LEAST STIFLING THE PRINTING PRESS OF
A TULSA COUNTY CODE OF ETHICS; FOR WHAT REASON
AND WHY; I DON'T KNOW; PROBABLY TO FURTHER THE
UNDERGROUND HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA..!
OVERZONATION AND OVERTAXATION WITHOUT
REPRESENTATION IN THIS SLUMTOWN CAUSE
PERPETUAL ANGER AND PERPETUAL MADNESS
BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTANCE
OF 'EVERLASTING' ENDLESS UNFAIRNESS.
I FEEL LIKE BLASTING SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS
WHO I HAVE TO PUT WITH THEIR ENDLESS
NEVERENDING CRAP, BECAUSE THEY CAUSE
INTERFERENCE NEARLY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY,
WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATTEMPT AT FORWARD
PROGRESS IN LIFE.
THIS RESIDENCE DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD QUALITY
PRIVACY FENCE, AND I DON'T MAKE ENOUGH
MONEY TO PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE, OR TO HAVE
ONE PUT UP.
THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS
RESIDENCE, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD; HAVE MADE
THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD UPSET AT THEM; AND
THEY HAVE TRESSPASSED UPON MY FOURTH
AMENDMENT RIGHT, BECAUSE I AM EXCERCISING
MT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, TO USE LOW POWER
BROADCAST RADIO AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.
IF I HAD THE RESOURCES; I WOULD HAVE A STATION
WITH COMPLETELY ESOTERIC, EXPERIMENTAL, AND
INSPIRING PROGRAMMING, LIKE WHAT HARRY TOOTLE
AND HIS BROTHER CHARLIE DID, BACK IN 91' TO 92'.
BUT THAT TAKES A SHITLOAD OF MONEY, AND I JUST
DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE GARGANTUAN
AMOUNTS OF MONEY; ESPECIALLY WITHOUT A CODE
OF ETHICS OR SOMETHING, FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL
SLUMTOWN.
The process of revolution, however, would upset standards and
everything else, causing more harm.
WELL; I SEE THAT NOW!
INSTEAD OF REVOLUTION, REVILUTION, EVOLUTION, OR
EVILUTION, WHY CAN'T WE ALL HAVE ASCENSION, AND
/ OR TRANSCENSION?
AND BE AT ONE; AND BE AT LASTING PEACE?
> You are driving around lost. What do you do? You ask a perfect
> stranger where such-and-such is. I've always been told the truth! Yet
> in many other countries, it is more likely you will be told a lie.
>
> YES; YOU ARE RIGHT..!
That's one of the things I love about this country!
COOL!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 17:49:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
In-Reply-To: <20051022002500.9635.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 21, 2005 05:25:00 PM
Message-ID: <20051022004914.49715.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > SUCCINCT, TRITE NOTES, FROM WEBSTERS
> > DICTIONARY REGARDING MORALITY:
> >
> > 1. A STANDARD.
> > 2. STANDARDS.
> > 3. ESTABLISHED STANDARD.
> > 4. ESTABLISHED STANDARDS.
> > 5. ETHICAL.
> > 6. FAIR.
> > 7. FAIRNESS.
> > 8. GUILTLESSNESS.
> > 9. BLAMELESSNESS.
>
> Really does not say much, does it?
>
> I THINK IT SAYS A LOT..!
Not really. What if the standards of justice were to kill anyone who
lays a hand on the shoulders of another person. That would be a
standard. Not one compatible with our sense of friendship... but a
standard.
Or the converse, which is standard is some primitive societies, of
pre-pubescent youths sucking off pubescent youths.
Not compatible with our standards and ethics either!
> BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
Most people don't know exactly, either.
> MORALITY SEEMS TO BE LIKE;
> OR MORALITY SEEMS TO BE AS:
>
> 1. INNOCENCE VS. CORRUPTION;
But what's corruption??? Nepotism is standard in many Asian
societies. It's considered unethical if you don't appoint your
relatives first. Not our standard!!!
> 2. INNOCENCE VS. INNOCENCE LOST;
What's innocence?
> 3. JUSTICE VS. JUSTICE LOST..!
What's justice? Saddam claims he only did what any ruler would do.
He claims the whole trial situation is unjust.
A lot of his victims would not agree with that, if they were alive!
He had them drink gasoline, then lit them on fire!
(I kind of think that's what they should do to him. After all, it
IS what he had done to hundreds, if not thousands of his people. But we
would call that cruel and unusual punishment, and not allow it to be
done.)
> So how do you know that it would help?
>
> TULSA CERTAINLY NEEDS A CODE OF ETHICS, VERY
> VERY BADLY; AND IT IS VERY VERY LONG OVERDUE..!
> THE SHITTY OFFICIALS ARE STIFLING ITS CREATION;
> OR ARE AT LEAST STIFLING THE PRINTING PRESS OF
> A TULSA COUNTY CODE OF ETHICS; FOR WHAT REASON
> AND WHY; I DON'T KNOW; PROBABLY TO FURTHER THE
> UNDERGROUND HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA..!
There probably is a code of ethics already in the Tulsa government.
Just because you are having difficulties is not necessarily because of
a lack of ethics. it's because of economic situations and the depth at
which you can perceive what is going on.
> OVERZONATION AND OVERTAXATION WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION IN THIS SLUMTOWN CAUSE
They have elections! You are not unrepresented. Your
representation is proportional to all the other Tulsans -- Not Much! But
in total, it does reflect the needs and wants of Tulsa residents on
average.
> PERPETUAL ANGER AND PERPETUAL MADNESS
> BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTANCE
> OF 'EVERLASTING' ENDLESS UNFAIRNESS.
What's fair? You said yourself that you did have a conversation with
one of them. Your report made them sound sane.
> I FEEL LIKE BLASTING SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS
> WHO I HAVE TO PUT WITH THEIR ENDLESS
> NEVERENDING CRAP, BECAUSE THEY CAUSE
> INTERFERENCE NEARLY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY,
> WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATTEMPT AT FORWARD
> PROGRESS IN LIFE.
How do they interfere?
>
> THIS RESIDENCE DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD QUALITY
> PRIVACY FENCE, AND I DON'T MAKE ENOUGH
> MONEY TO PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE, OR TO HAVE
> ONE PUT UP.
That's a different matter. It's a matter of your relative
contribution to society. You need to look at how you can contribute
more so as to get more. Look at other jobs you can do well.
> THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS
> RESIDENCE, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD; HAVE MADE
> THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD UPSET AT THEM; AND
> THEY HAVE TRESSPASSED UPON MY FOURTH
> AMENDMENT RIGHT, BECAUSE I AM EXCERCISING
> MT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, TO USE LOW POWER
> BROADCAST RADIO AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.
Now, are they complaining? Do you have a forth amendment right
to use low power broadcast? Or is the FCC reserving that? I think it is
the FCC, not your neighbors, who are blocking you there.
> IF I HAD THE RESOURCES; I WOULD HAVE A STATION
> WITH COMPLETELY ESOTERIC, EXPERIMENTAL, AND
> INSPIRING PROGRAMMING, LIKE WHAT HARRY TOOTLE
> AND HIS BROTHER CHARLIE DID, BACK IN 91' TO 92'.
That's a lot of resources. How would you make money from that?
> BUT THAT TAKES A SHITLOAD OF MONEY, AND I JUST
> DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE GARGANTUAN
> AMOUNTS OF MONEY; ESPECIALLY WITHOUT A CODE
> OF ETHICS OR SOMETHING, FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL
> SLUMTOWN.
You are an ethical person, yes? So how is the lack of a town code
of ethics affect you?
I think what it is, is the effects of economics, not ethics, which
is the problem.
> The process of revolution, however, would upset standards and
> everything else, causing more harm.
>
> WELL; I SEE THAT NOW!
> INSTEAD OF REVOLUTION, REVILUTION, EVOLUTION, OR
> EVILUTION, WHY CAN'T WE ALL HAVE ASCENSION, AND
> / OR TRANSCENSION?
> AND BE AT ONE; AND BE AT LASTING PEACE?
Evolution is better. But everlasting peace? I don't think that's
desirable. SOME level of peace and respect, sure! But not total. We
make more progress from some reasonable level of chaos, than from a
stagnant status quo. Many other nations have a more peaceful status quo.
But who has been driving technology? Who has been inventing
revolutionary products? Our local American Crazies, that's who!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Fri Oct 21 21:51:20 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Fri Oct 21 21:51:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.teslaconspiracy.com/
In-Reply-To: <20051021182547.437.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051022045120.60644.qmail@web402.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:> > -Actually, sustained unidirectional force isn't totally necessary
>
> But proof of a net unidirectional force is.
>
> -What do you think tipping the swing set over is?
Cancellation of the reference frame.
Once you cancel the reference frame, you can't tell the net. It's
a really neat way of "showing" that something "works" to the
unsophisticated. And even to some of the sophisticated!
-Once the wheel has stopped, there is no further force to add into the "net" i.e., there is nothing whatsoever to produce any force in the opposite direction. But there's no point to further thrashing about the concept. I really appreciate your considerations, and I'll notify you when I get some video online. (I just found a VHS camcorder for 20 bucks. Now all I need is a PC card to download the video.)
Regards,
Jerry Volland
Or use this drive in a closed box to make an airplane take off and
fly.
-My Ecentric Cam will lift a plane a lot easier and is a much smaller system.
>> Putting it on a floating board would help... but "water" can still
>> be fooled by certain time/force/inertial effects.
> -Yes. I have put a different, much smaller device in a large bowl and
>watched it bounce right on across the water. This could have been
>nothing more that "reptation", or a differential interaction with the
>water in different directions, as, say the back of the bowl being pushed
>downwards in the water restricts reverse movement. Still, this effect
>is valuable for propelling boats.
Quite interesting! Of course, there is the efficiency angle, and
the change in apparent viscosity with scale; but it IS interesting!
Does give me some hope that you have something.
-Well, reptation is not the same thing as thrust, even if it is usable.
I really, really hope your stuff works! But I have doubts. And
right now, I've got to dig a rather stuck truck out of a spot some idiot
(me) got it into. Four wheel drive does not help much when two wheels
spin; nor when they've dug in enough that the ground under the middle of
the truck is holding it up... There's GOT to be a better place for me to
live!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Fri Oct 21 21:58:51 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Fri Oct 21 21:58:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
In-Reply-To: <20051021185558.51553.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051022045851.77747.qmail@web408.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
The main thing about the number 600 is that most people don't include it in the number, giving the number a new, non-Biblical significance. The same is true of the "three score". Some people delete this number as well, saying that three sixes is THE "three". The symbolism of the number will never be understood as long as it is incorectly considered.
clyde lofton wrote:
ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED BY OBSERVATION
WHEN I VISITED BOTH MY DECEASED BROTHER, AND
A DECEASED FRIEND THE OTHER DAY, DURING THE
AFTERNOON AT ONE OF THE LOCAL TULSA
CEMETARIES.
ALL OF YOU NUMERIC / MATHEMATIC MAD SCIENTISTS
OUT THERE; CAN YOU WORK ANY NUMBERS TO FIND
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CORRELATION BETWEEN 666,
THE # OF THE BEAST, AND THE THREE PHASES OF
60 CYCLE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION AND
TRANSMISSION, ALONG WITH OTHER ODD AND CRAZY
STUFF; LIKE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES,
THE KOMMUNIST KABLE NETWERKS, THE CELLULAR
TELEPHONE NETWERKS, AND EVEN THE MILITARY
AND DOPPLER RADAR INSTALLATIONS OF THE
MEDIA-MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNIONISMPLEX???
JERRY VOLLAND SAID THAT 666 IS PLAINLY A MYTH,
AND THAT THERE IS TRUE MEANING IN THE # 600; BUT
IS THERE ANY SYMBOLISM IN THAT???; AND STILL I
ASK; WHAT DOES THE BEAST HAVE TO DO WITH
THE TOTALITARIAN KONTROL INTRFUCKTURE THAT WE
THE PEOPLE ARE ALL UNDER TODAY???
THE GRID / THE MATRIX / THE BEAST..! ???
CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Oct 21 22:10:39 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Oct 21 22:10:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interesting motor!
Message-ID: <010f01c5d6c6$f1bd2260$d0c5bc41@mikey>
http://bmiklos2000.freeweb.hu/unipolar.htm
From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 21 22:28:43 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 22:28:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
In-Reply-To: <20051022045851.77747.qmail@web408.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"thrustmeister" at Oct 21, 2005 09:58:51 PM
Message-ID: <20051022052843.3635.qmail@mall-net.com>
> The main thing about the number 600 is that most people don't include
> it in the number, giving the number a new, non-Biblical significance.
> The same is true of the "three score". Some people delete this number
> as well, saying that three sixes is THE "three". The symbolism of the
> number will never be understood as long as it is incorectly
> considered.
When I was working for a Florida semiconductor company, we had a
part that got the 666 designation. Some of the workers refused to work
on the production line making that part. The number had to be changed.
I have read elsewhere that the real number might be around 333.
Depends on which theory you subscribe to. I don't subscribe to any of
them. If someone asks me for the number of the beast, I'll ask which
beast; as most cattle have numbers these days.
> ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
> THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
> BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
The dead can't be entrained or trained. They are dead; no working
brain cells, no working biochemistry, other than what rots them.
Equality is not applicable in this case as the location with
respect to higher tension lines and the nature of the wiring and
appliances of building influences how much 60hz exposure a person
experiences. Exposure variability factors in excess of 100 are not
unexpected.
The person sitting at his kitchen table with a light in the corner
of the room gets one exposure level. If the light is hanging above the
middle of the table, the exposure level is likely to be much, much
higher. And if it is controlled by two light switches at opposite ends
of the room, and they are mis-wired, the exposure will be substantially
higher. Now put a bed on the floor above... and it gets even worse.
Worser yet? A house or office building under some high tension
lines serving a large area, like the lines serving the San Francisco
Peninsula. I noticed difficulties thinking when I interviewed with a
company under them. I declined the project specifically for that reason.
Same with a couple of other companies under or immediately next to that
set of power lines.
Some people are affected, yet other people are not. Why? I don't
know. All I do know, is that for some weeks, I may be sensitive to high
strength magnetic fields. Yet this slowly goes away, and does not recur
for months to years. So I assume that it has something to do with
health.
I speculate that it could depend upon the number of iron
microcrystals in your blood, or iron in your brain. This could be
related to how well the ferritin / transferrin look is functioning, or
how well iron is handled in other parts of the porphyrin pathways.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Sat Oct 22 00:13:38 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Sat Oct 22 00:13:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interesting motor!
In-Reply-To: <010f01c5d6c6$f1bd2260$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051022071338.33711.qmail@web404.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
At first glance, this system appears to be an "impulse drive". When a single pulse is applied, ions are sent towards the inside surface of the ping pong ball. Upon impact, this produces movement. However, equilibrium quickly will become established - with subsequent reflection and impact against the opposing wall - and the movement will stop. But, with continuing applications of pulses, the device will continue to produce movement, but not any faster than the original speed caused by the first pulse. (Unless the HV power supply is heavily filtered, there will be pulses, even with DC.) If it is an impulse drive, this will be proven by the fact that movement will stop as soon as the power is turned off. However, the usage of strange metal combinations may indicate it's something else. I'll have to research it further after I get some sleep. -JV
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 12:28:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LOTUS TOPIC WEBLINKS.
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LOTUS TOPIC WEBLINKS:
http://www.christnotes.org/-/_the-lotus-and-the-cross_157673854X.asp
http://www.zanzoona.com/lotus.html
http://fusionanomaly.net/lotus.html
http://www.stolaf.edu/people/stoltzp/Talks/ImagingSuffering.htm
http://www.users.bigpond.com/awakeninglotus/angelart/ascendedmasters.htm
http://www.theascendedmasters.com/jewel_lotus.htm
http://www.drjoshuadavidstone.com/00/products/special/special.html
http://www.drjoshuadavidstone.com/00/products/masters/masters3.html
http://www.iamuniversity.org/links/
http://www.iamuniversity.org/projects/temples/worldlightwork.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 17:43:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 17:43:10 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FURTHER REVISION: GET THEM TOGETHER IN A FUCKING
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > SUCCINCT, TRITE NOTES, FROM WEBSTERS
> > DICTIONARY REGARDING MORALITY:
> >
> > 1. A STANDARD.
> > 2. STANDARDS.
> > 3. ESTABLISHED STANDARD.
> > 4. ESTABLISHED STANDARDS.
> > 5. ETHICAL.
> > 6. FAIR.
> > 7. FAIRNESS.
> > 8. GUILTLESSNESS.
> > 9. BLAMELESSNESS.
>
> Really does not say much, does it?
>
> I THINK IT SAYS A LOT..!
Not really. What if the standards of justice were to kill anyone who
lays a hand on the shoulders of another person.
THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD..!
That would be a standard.
OK.
Not one compatible with our sense of friendship... but a standard.
YES.
Or the converse, which is standard is some primitive societies, of
pre-pubescent youths sucking off pubescent youths.
YES.
Not compatible with our standards and ethics either!
YES.
> BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
Most people don't know exactly, either.
WELL, OK.
MANY OF THE LAWS OF THE LAND ARE VERY GOOD
TO HAVE.
THOUGH MANY OF THE LAWS OF THE LAND ARE
MANUFACTURED BY THE RICH AND THE WEALTHY, FOR
THEIR BENEFITS AND FOR THEIR BENEFITS ALONE..!
> MORALITY SEEMS TO BE LIKE;
> OR MORALITY SEEMS TO BE AS:
>
> 1. INNOCENCE VS. CORRUPTION;
But what's corruption???
ACCORDING TO WEBSTER'S:
CORRUPTION IS PERVERSION;
PERVERSION IS IMPROPER AND INCORRECT.
Nepotism is standard in many Asian
societies. It's considered unethical if you don't appoint your
relatives first. Not our standard!!!
OK.
SO NEPOTISM IS UNFAIR, RELATIVE TO HOW WE ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ELECTIONS OF OUR
COUNTRY'S GOVERNING OFFICIALS.
NEPOTISM IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE NORM, FOR
WE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY.
> 2. INNOCENCE VS. INNOCENCE LOST;
What's innocence?
INNOCENCE IS NOT HAVING ANY FLAWS OR BLEMISHES AT
ALL, ON OR IN ONE'S OWN EXISTANCE.
> 3. JUSTICE VS. JUSTICE LOST..!
What's justice?
1. JUDGE.
2. LAW.
3. RIGHTS.
4. ESTABLISHED RIGHTS.
5. IMPARTIAL.
6. FAIR.
7. FAIRNESS.
8. RIGHTEOUSNESS.
9. CORRECTNESS.
Saddam claims he only did what any ruler would do.
He claims the whole trial situation is unjust.
WELL; I WOULD BE ONE OF THE MANY WHO DISAGREE WITH
SADDAM, LIKE YOURSELF AND OTHERS..!
SADDAM CLAIMS THEN THAT HE ONLY DID WHAT ANY RULER
WOULD DO; YET HE WAS A DICTATOR WITH ABSOLUTE
POWER DURING HIS TIME IN POWER; THE PEOPLE HAD NO
INDEPENDENT VOICE AGAINST HIM, OR IF THEY DID; THEY
WOULD BE TORTURED AND / OR KILLED, FOR RAISING THEIR
VOICE/S, IF FOUND OUT ABOUT..!
A lot of his victims would not agree with that, if they were alive!
He had them drink gasoline, then lit them on fire!
(I kind of think that's what they should do to him.
I AGREE..!
After all, it IS what he had done to hundreds, if not thousands of his people.
But we would call that cruel and unusual punishment, and not allow it to be
done.
TRUE..!)
> So how do you know that it would help?
>
> TULSA CERTAINLY NEEDS A CODE OF ETHICS, VERY
> VERY BADLY; AND IT IS VERY VERY LONG OVERDUE..!
> THE SHITTY OFFICIALS ARE STIFLING ITS CREATION;
> OR ARE AT LEAST STIFLING THE PRINTING PRESS OF
> A TULSA COUNTY CODE OF ETHICS; FOR WHAT REASON
> AND WHY; I DON'T KNOW; PROBABLY TO FURTHER THE
> UNDERGROUND HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA..!
There probably is a code of ethics already in the Tulsa government.
IF THERE IS; IT HASN'T SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY FOR WE THE
PEOPLE OF THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM; AT LEAST NOT THAT I
AM AWARE OF..!
I WENT DOWNSLUM, THE OTHER MORNING TO FIND OUT IF THE
COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE HAD PUT IT TO PRINTING PRESS YET;
AND THEY ARE STILL STIFLING ITS PRINTING PRODUCTION.
Just because you are having difficulties is not necessarily because of
a lack of ethics. it's because of economic situations and the depth at
which you can perceive what is going on.
IT IS BOTH;
ETHICS AND ECONOMICS.
IT IS ALSO ATMOSPHERE AND ECOLOGY EQUALLY AS WELL.
AND INDEPENDENT SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY TOO..!
> OVERZONATION AND OVERTAXATION WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION IN THIS SLUMTOWN CAUSE
They have elections!
YES.
THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW BENEFICIAL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
IN THE PAST; SINCE MY PERCEPTION OF THE POLITICAL SCENE
'IS NOW COMING UP' IN THE WORLD.
You are not unrepresented. Your representation is proportional to all the
other Tulsans -- Not Much! But in total, it does reflect the needs and wants
of Tulsa residents on average.
OK.
> PERPETUAL ANGER AND PERPETUAL MADNESS
> BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTANCE
> OF 'EVERLASTING' ENDLESS UNFAIRNESS.
What's fair? You said yourself that you did have a conversation with
one of them.
MAYBE THE NEIGHBORS ARE AS AFRAID OF ME, AS I AM
AFRAID OF THEM?
I'VE NEVER BEEN A REALLY SOCIALLY OUTGOING PERSON..!
Your report made them sound sane.
WELL; OK....
YES THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAFE
FROM ANY SCIENCE EXPERIMENTS THAT COULD CAUSE HARM..!
THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAFE..!
I REALIZE THAT.
I CANNOT BE DOING DANGEROUS SCIENCE PROJECTS THAT COULD
PUT PEOPLE IN JEOPARDY OF LIFE OR LIMB..!
> I FEEL LIKE BLASTING SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS
> WHO I HAVE TO PUT WITH THEIR ENDLESS
> NEVERENDING CRAP, BECAUSE THEY CAUSE
> INTERFERENCE NEARLY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY,
> WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATTEMPT AT FORWARD
> PROGRESS IN LIFE.
How do they interfere?
>
> THIS RESIDENCE DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD QUALITY
> PRIVACY FENCE, AND I DON'T MAKE ENOUGH
> MONEY TO PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE, OR TO HAVE
> ONE PUT UP.
That's a different matter. It's a matter of your relative
contribution to society. You need to look at how you can contribute
more so as to get more. Look at other jobs you can do well.
WHAT JOBS?
YEAH WELL; I CAN LOOK FOR OTHER JOBS; THEY ONLY
GET MYSELF DOWN THE SAME OLD ROAD TO NOWHERE
THOUGH, IN THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED TOWN - INDUSTRIAL
SLUM TULSA.
TULSA: A WASTELAND OF BROKEN DREAMS FOR ALL PEOPLE
WHO LIVE HERE..!
> THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS
> RESIDENCE, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD; HAVE MADE
> THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD UPSET AT THEM; AND
> THEY HAVE TRESSPASSED UPON MY FOURTH
> AMENDMENT RIGHT, BECAUSE I AM EXCERCISING
> MT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, TO USE LOW POWER
> BROADCAST RADIO AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.
Now, are they complaining?
I DON'T KNOW EVERY COMPLAINT.
BUT WAS TOLD BY MY MOTHER THAT THEY HAVE UPSET
THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, BY CONSTANTLY HARRASSING
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND MANY VARIOUS THINGS IMPOSED
AGAINST THE RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD; MAKING
THE FOLKS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD VERY ANGRY AT
THEM..!
Do you have a forth amendment right to use low power broadcast?
I DON'T KNOW.
Or is the FCC reserving that?
I DON'T KNOW.
I think it is the FCC, not your neighbors, who are blocking you there.
IT JUST MIGHT BE.
> IF I HAD THE RESOURCES; I WOULD HAVE A STATION
> WITH COMPLETELY ESOTERIC, EXPERIMENTAL, AND
> INSPIRING PROGRAMMING, LIKE WHAT HARRY TOOTLE
> AND HIS BROTHER CHARLIE DID, BACK IN 91' TO 92'.
That's a lot of resources. How would you make money from that?
I WOULDN'T!
IT WOULD BE A COMPLETE MONEY SINK!
IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE FUN INVOLVED, AND
FOR THE INSPIRATION AND BENEFIT THAT IT CREATES,
FOR MY LISTENERS..!
> BUT THAT TAKES A SHITLOAD OF MONEY, AND I JUST
> DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE GARGANTUAN
> AMOUNTS OF MONEY; ESPECIALLY WITHOUT A CODE
> OF ETHICS OR SOMETHING, FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL
> SLUMTOWN.
You are an ethical person, yes?
I TRY TO BE..!
I DON'T LIKE PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, DUE TO OTHERS
FUCKING WITH ME MUCH OF THE TIME.
I LIKE PEACE; JUST AS EVERYONE ELSE LIKES PEACE..!
So how is the lack of a town code of ethics affecting you?
THAT I CANNOT LIVE AS INDEPENDENTLY AND AS FREE AS IS
POSSIBLE..! ;
THAT ALL TULSA RESIDENTS ARE NOT LIVING AS INDEPENDENT
AND FREE AS IS POSSIBLE..!
I think what it is, is the effects of economics, not ethics, which
is the problem.
IT IS A COMBINATION OF VARIOUS THINGS:
ETHICS.
ECONOMICS.
ATMOSPHERE.
ECOLOGY.
TECHNOLOGY.
NATURE.
INDEPENDENCE.
PEACE.
PRIVACY.
ETC;
; AND THE LIST CAN PROBABLY GO ON AND ON AND ON..!
> The process of revolution, however, would upset standards and
> everything else, causing more harm.
>
> WELL; I SEE THAT NOW!
> INSTEAD OF REVOLUTION, REVILUTION, EVOLUTION, OR
> EVILUTION, WHY CAN'T WE ALL HAVE ASCENSION, AND
> / OR TRANSCENSION?
> AND BE AT ONE; AND BE AT LASTING PEACE?
Evolution is better.
EVOLUTION INTO WHAT THOUGH?
ASCENSION AND TRANSCENSION?
I WAS THINKING THE OTHER DAY, THAT EVEN THOUGH I AM
HUMAN; I HAVE BECOME A MUTANT IN SOME WAYS, DUE TO
THE EFFECTS OF THE ENVIRONMENT UPON MY LIFE.
But everlasting peace? I don't think that's desirable.
IT SURE AS HEAVEN AND HELL IS FOR ME..!
SOME level of peace and respect, sure!
OK; FOR OTHERS, IF THAT IS THEIR WILL; AS FOR MYSELF: LASTING
AND EVERLASTING PEACE ARE WHAT I NEED..!
But not total.
I DISAGREE WITH THAT;
PEACE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTE..!
AT LEAST IN MY LIFE..!
We make more progress from some reasonable level of chaos, than
from a stagnant status quo.
TULSA'S STATUS QUO IS CEASELESS SHIT..!
STATUS *CHO* IS MORE POLITICALLY FITTING,
FOR THE F'ING LAGGARDS WHO SEEM TO
OPERATE THIS FUCKING FOREVER NO NOWHERE
INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN..!
STATUS CHO ='S STATUS CHINESE CHO..!
CHINESE GARBAGE: OVERWHELMING!
Many other nations have a more peaceful status quo.
YEAH WELL; IT NEEDS TO BE MUCH MUCH MORE PEACEFUL
HERE..!
But who has been driving technology? Who has been
inventing revolutionary products? Our local American Crazies,
that's who!
YES.
MAD SCIENTISTS LIKE US..!
TULSA TIME IS ABSOLUTE CONTINUOUS DUTY CHAOS
THOUGH..!
WHY CAN'T THIS PLACE HAVE MORE (LAW) PEACE AND
ORDER TO ITS STRUCTURE?
OR ABSOLUTE PEACE AND ORDER?
AND HAS CHAOS AND CONFUSION ALWAYS BEEN THE
NORM OF THIS SHITTY, WHICH ENDLESSLY SPINS AROUND
AND AROUND IN CIRCLES IN ITS INSANITY, WITHOUT END?
THE SHITTY OF TULSA IS TRAPPED IN A KLEIN BOTTLE,
WITHIN, LIMITLESS OTHER INFINITE KLEIN BOTTLES SPINNING
THROUGH TIME IN ENDLESS CHAOTIC INSANITY..!
TULSA TIME..!
TULSA IS THE HIGHEST CRIME TOWN IN OKLAHOMA; ACCORDING
TO WHAT IS STATED IN A CHANNEL SIX TELEVISION NEWS ARTICLE
THAT I POSTED IN THE PAST, IN ONE OF THE FIRST THREE REMINDER
LISTS OF WEBLINKS.
EVERY NIGHT ON TELEVISION; NOTHING BUT BAD NEWS: ALL OF
THE (TULSA) TIME..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 18:07:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:08:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
In-Reply-To: <20051022045851.77747.qmail@web408.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051023010753.32148.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
thrustmeister < thrustmeister@spaceoffice.us > wrote:
The main thing about the number 600 is that most people don't include it in the number, giving the number a new, non-Biblical significance.
BUT WHAT IS THE BIBLICAL SIGNIFICANCE?; AND WHAT IS THE
NONBIBLICAL (SECULAR) SIGNIFICANCE, IF ANY?
The same is true of the "three score".
I DON'T UNDERSTAND;
WHAT IS THE "THREE SCORE"?
IS IT RELATED TO THE CHRISTIAN DEITY TRINITY?
IS IT RELATED TO THE THREE PHASES OF THE
CONVENTIONAL ALTERNATING CURRENT POWER
GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM:
THE THREE PHASES OF 60 CYCLES PER SECOND * 3?
IS THERE ANY BETTER EXPLANATION BEHIND IT ALL?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN???
Some people delete this number as well, saying that three sixes is THE "three". The symbolism of the number will never be understood as long as it is incorectly considered.
WHEN CORRECTLY CONSIDERED, WHAT DOES IT, OR 600, MEAN???
SINCERELY, CLYDE
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED BY OBSERVATION
WHEN I VISITED BOTH MY DECEASED BROTHER, AND
A DECEASED FRIEND THE OTHER DAY, DURING THE
AFTERNOON AT ONE OF THE LOCAL TULSA
CEMETARIES.
ALL OF YOU NUMERIC / MATHEMATIC MAD SCIENTISTS
OUT THERE; CAN YOU WORK ANY NUMBERS TO FIND
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CORRELATION BETWEEN 666,
THE # OF THE BEAST, AND THE THREE PHASES OF
60 CYCLE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION AND
TRANSMISSION, ALONG WITH OTHER ODD AND CRAZY
STUFF; LIKE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES,
THE KOMMUNIST KABLE NETWERKS, THE CELLULAR
TELEPHONE NETWERKS, AND EVEN THE MILITARY
AND DOPPLER RADAR INSTALLATIONS OF THE
MEDIA-MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNIONISMPLEX???
JERRY VOLLAND SAID THAT 666 IS PLAINLY A MYTH,
AND THAT THERE IS TRUE MEANING IN THE # 600; BUT
IS THERE ANY SYMBOLISM IN THAT???; AND STILL I
ASK; WHAT DOES THE BEAST HAVE TO DO WITH
THE TOTALITARIAN KONTROL INTRFUCKTURE THAT WE
THE PEOPLE ARE ALL UNDER TODAY???
THE GRID / THE MATRIX / THE BEAST..! ???
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 18:38:25 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:38:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
When I was working for a Florida semiconductor company, we had a
part that got the 666 designation. Some of the workers refused to work
on the production line making that part. The number had to be changed.
I have read elsewhere that the real number might be around 333.
Depends on which theory you subscribe to. I don't subscribe to any of
them.
If someone asks me for the number of the beast, I'll ask which
beast; as most cattle have numbers these days.
FUNNY; AND A GOOD POINT TOO!
> ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT THE LIVING AND
> THE DEAD ARE BOTH EQUALLY UNDER 60 CYCLE
> BRAIN AND BODY NEURAL ENTRAINMENT???
The dead can't be entrained or trained. They are dead; no working
brain cells, no working biochemistry, other than what rots them.
YES; ALTHOUGH WHAT ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS OF THE
PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE, OF TIME ITSELF; NONLINEAR
TIME; AND NOT LINEAR TIME?
I THINK THE BIBLE SAYS SOMEWHERE IN IT, THAT IT IS A SIN
TO ATTEMPT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD AND DECEASED
THOUGH..!
Equality is not applicable in this case as the location with
respect to higher tension lines and the nature of the wiring and
appliances of building influences how much 60hz exposure a person
experiences. Exposure variability factors in excess of 100 are not
unexpected.
YES.
The person sitting at his kitchen table with a light in the corner
of the room gets one exposure level.
EDISON INCANDESCENT, VS. TESLA FLOURESCENT:
I'VE PONDERED THAT THE INCANDESCENT BULB MUST
RADIATE AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF HEAT WHITE NOISE,
PROPORTIONAL TO ITS ELECTROPHOTONIC / ELECTROMAGNETIC
FIELD, AND THAT THE FLOURESCENT BULB WOULD PRODUCE A
MORE PURE AND STABLE; MORE DISTORTION FREE; HIGH
VOLTAGE, ELECTROPHOTONIC / ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD.
REGARDLESS; BOTH WOULD CAUSE UNDESIRED ENTRAINMENT
INTERFERENCE.
If the light is hanging above the middle of the table, the exposure level
is likely to be much, much higher. And if it is controlled by two light
switches at opposite ends of the room, and they are mis-wired, the
exposure will be substantially higher. Now put a bed on the floor above...
and it gets even worse.
YES.
Worse yet? A house or office building under some high tension
lines serving a large area, like the lines serving the San Francisco
Peninsula.
YES.
I noticed difficulties thinking when I interviewed with a company under
them. I declined the project specifically for that reason. Same with a
couple of other companies under, or immediately next to that set of
power lines.
INTERESTING.
Some people are affected, yet other people are not. Why? I don't
know.
IT IS RELATIVE TO A PERSON'S METABOLISM; THE NEUROCHEMISTRY,
THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG USE, AND / OR STREET DRUG USE; GENETIC
INHERITANCE, AND THE CORRESPONDING EFFECTS ON THE ENTIRE
NEUROLOGICAL WHOLE; RELATIONAL ALSO, TO LIFE'S EXPERIENCES;
BOTH PAST AND PRESENT..!
All I do know, is that for some weeks, I may be sensitive to high
strength magnetic fields. Yet this slowly goes away, and does not recur
for months to years. So I assume that it has something to do with
health.
YES; EVER SINCE I STARTED TAKING THE DRUG CLONAZEPAM; IT;
(CLONAZEPAM) HAS INCREASED MY ENTIRE NEURAL SENSITIVITY
TO ELECTROMAGNETIC AND ELECTROPHOTONIC EMISSION..!
I speculate that it could depend upon the number of iron microcrystals in
your blood, or iron in your brain.
YES; ALL OF IT..!
This could be related to how well the ferritin / transferrin look is functioning,
or how well iron is handled in other parts of the porphyrin pathways.
I DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT FERRITIN AND TRANFERRIN.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE?
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 22 18:48:22 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 22 18:49:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
contest over next?
Message-ID: <000b01c5d773$db5a0d50$d0c5bc41@mikey>
No winners in the noodle wars
>From _The Japan Times_, October 23, 2005
A recent scientific report appeared to reassure the world that not everyone
in China is dwelling on that country's muscle-flexing space program or the
intractability of Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. Some Chinese, it
suggested, are focused on less tendentious things. Take archaeologists, the
subject of the report in the Oct. 13 issue of Nature magazine. Apparently, a
team of them discovered a bowl of old noodles at a site in western China,
and they are quite excited about it.
As who wouldn't be? Because when they said old noodles, they didn't mean
last week's takeout leftovers. They meant 4,000-year-old, pale yellow
strands of identifiable millet pasta, still in their overturned dish and
pristinely preserved under three meters of sediment. (To be fair to the
Neolithic noodles, though, they were evidently in no worse shape than last
week's leftovers. We're guessing that would be fairly al dente.)
Full article:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?ed20051023a1.htm
From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 22 19:19:01 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 22 19:19:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on free energy
Message-ID: <000c01c5d778$22d44070$d0c5bc41@mikey>
IMHO, the central reason Tesla was ostracized by his peers was his belief in
worldwide energy transmission. The Magnifying Transmitter could send
energy, with nearly zero losses, anywhere on the globe. However, how could
Edison Electric Company place a meter at the receiving station to meter, AND
BILL FOR, energy usage? Since Tesla didn't care for the realities of
enhancing profits, this never mattered to Tesla- so those whose enhanced
profits depended on selling energy were required to squelch his ideas,
before they lost their meal ticket!
Tesla's method is based upon the reality that the Earth is a giant spherical
capacitor, with ground and the ionosphere comprising the plates. There
exists a several megavolt e-field between the two at all times; this is the
cause of thunderstorms. Tesla even has a patent for collecting this energy
for use.
In this day of escalating fossil fuel prices, global warming, and wars
fought over petroleum reserves, it is high time that we revisit Tesla's
ideas- and the Big Busyness interests who give not a tinker's damn about
anything but profits be damned!
IMHO.
-MB
OSEN makes cannon-ball splash opening with release of disclosure testimonial
videos
Earth-shattering never-before-seen video testimonials released for the first
time, featuring seven energy inventors. Affidavit witnesses urge an end to
suppression of new energy technologies that could eliminate our suicidal
dependence on fossil fuel.
VANCOUVER, B.C., CANADA (Oct. 22, 2005) -- In launching its website today,
after several months of incubation, the Open Source Energy Network
(OSEN.org) is making its debut splash by releasing never-before-seen video
testimonials from seven leading alternative energy inventors.
These professional videos were prepared by the Disclosure Project, headed by
Dr. Steven Greer, and were underwritten with sizeable funds for high-quality
production. They were prepared to serve as testimony that will stand up in
court. They document the fact, both that there are viable new energy
technologies which could rid us of our dependence on polluting fossil fuels,
and that there have been active efforts in suppressing these. Explosively,
these videos reveal names and tactics of this Luddite resistance against
scientific progress.
This power-packed series includes testimony from Tom Bearden; Thomas
Vallone, Paul Czysz, Hal Puthoff, David Hamilton, Ted Loder, Paul
LaViolette, several of whom hold PhDs, and all of whom are held in high
esteem by their peers in the field of clean energy. Each video is between 45
minutes and an hour in length. (Some of the videos, such as Tom Bearden's,
can be viewed at a higher speed to shorten online time, while remaining easy
to understand.)
These videos are sure to become hot items among those who track developments
in this field. Many have been frustrated by the lack of progress for so many
years, knowing that we could have had some of these technologies over a
century ago were it not for the oil and business cartel that actively
snuffed it out. Their blockade against both scientific progress and
information began with their snubbing of Nikola Tesla, one of the most
brilliant inventors of all time. For many decades, he was barely mentioned
-- if at all -- in our schools and history books. You would think that the
man who brought us A.C. power, radio, and other wireless communication,
would deserve prominent attention.
Full article:
http://www.opensourceenergy.org/txtlstvw.aspx?LstID=232cb43a-551a-4df2-91c4-
d15b39ce43f8
Or:
http://tinyurl.com/btesf
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 19:50:58 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Oct 22 19:51:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
contest over next?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c5d773$db5a0d50$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051023025059.88838.qmail@web51911.mail.yahoo.com>
Mike,
I figure that the "people's republic of china" (2 lies
for the price of 1??) will start talking lack of
eligible women folk.
Bob
--- Michael Best wrote:
> No winners in the noodle wars
>
> >From _The Japan Times_, October 23, 2005
>
> A recent scientific report appeared to reassure the
> world that not everyone
> in China is dwelling on that country's
> muscle-flexing space program or the
> intractability of Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
> Some Chinese, it
> suggested, are focused on less tendentious things.
> Take archaeologists, the
> subject of the report in the Oct. 13 issue of Nature
> magazine. Apparently, a
> team of them discovered a bowl of old noodles at a
> site in western China,
> and they are quite excited about it.
>
> As who wouldn't be? Because when they said old
> noodles, they didn't mean
> last week's takeout leftovers. They meant
> 4,000-year-old, pale yellow
> strands of identifiable millet pasta, still in their
> overturned dish and
> pristinely preserved under three meters of sediment.
> (To be fair to the
> Neolithic noodles, though, they were evidently in no
> worse shape than last
> week's leftovers. We're guessing that would be
> fairly al dente.)
>
>
>
> Full article:
>
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?ed20051023a1.htm
>
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 22 20:00:03 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 22 20:00:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
contest over next?
In-Reply-To: <20051023025059.88838.qmail@web51911.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c5d77d$de8725d0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Good one, Bob.
Well, maybe we can export females to China in order to equalize the foreign
exchange?
Just a thought, and not a too serious one, at that...
-Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Juliano [mailto:rhjuliano@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:51 PM
> To: mbest@triad.rr.com; Mad-Scientists Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
> contest over next?
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I figure that the "people's republic of china" (2 lies
> for the price of 1??) will start talking lack of
> eligible women folk.
>
> Bob
>
> --- Michael Best wrote:
>
> > No winners in the noodle wars
From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 22 20:38:57 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 20:39:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
In-Reply-To: <20051023013825.33360.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 22, 2005 06:38:25 PM
Message-ID: <20051023033857.30805.qmail@mall-net.com>
Religion, Lighting, and Biochemistry...
> The dead can't be entrained or trained. They are dead; no working
> brain cells, no working biochemistry, other than what rots them.
>
> YES; ALTHOUGH WHAT ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS OF THE
> PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE, OF TIME ITSELF; NONLINEAR
> TIME; AND NOT LINEAR TIME?
>
> I THINK THE BIBLE SAYS SOMEWHERE IN IT, THAT IT IS A SIN
> TO ATTEMPT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD AND DECEASED
> THOUGH..!
Well, the Catholics don't believe in that. Other religions range
from communications to reincarnation. I believe in reincarnation, with
Karma being little more than part of the competition as to which family
will accept you as their child's soul. In other words, if you have good
relatives or close friends who think your a good fellow, they would be
honored to have you as their child, if they are in the process of making
one. If you are a bad fellow... you might find that you end up catching
some family that no one better than you really wants as their folks...
marriages that don't look like they will last, wife beaters, alcoholics,
etc.
There is the book "Children Who Remember Previous Lives" by some
doctor who collected recollections. Interesting reading!
Whether any of this is true; we can't be sure. However, I do have
some rather vivid memory fragments of previous lives which are quite
consistent with my character. Whether they are recollections of actual
lives, or just ways of representing my character, is not 100% clear. I
like to think those are real previous lives. I like to think it
explains why some friends and I just clicked very rapidly. We do seem
to share some recollections of such alleged previous lives. It just
seems to make sense to me. But again, as a scientist, I can not be 100%
sure. (I do, however, think that the Catholic idea of heaven is one
huge bore! And one of the more specific descriptions, that of our
entertainment being watching the people suffer in hell, strikes me as so
unconcionable that it makes that religion repugnant to me! I'd rather
be here, trying to make this world a better place.)
> The person sitting at his kitchen table with a light in the corner
> of the room gets one exposure level.
>
> EDISON INCANDESCENT, VS. TESLA FLOURESCENT:
>
> I'VE PONDERED THAT THE INCANDESCENT BULB MUST
> RADIATE AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF HEAT WHITE NOISE,
> PROPORTIONAL TO ITS ELECTROPHOTONIC / ELECTROMAGNETIC
> FIELD, AND THAT THE FLOURESCENT BULB WOULD PRODUCE A
> MORE PURE AND STABLE; MORE DISTORTION FREE; HIGH
> VOLTAGE, ELECTROPHOTONIC / ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD.
Incandescent bulbs waste most of their energy as heat, maybe two
thirds to three quarters. Halogen and others may do a bit better. The
key is getting the filament hot enough to radiate energy. One plus, is
the 60 cycles does not let the filament cool down too much, so the light
is fairly continuous.
Traditional flourescents use a gas that glows in the ultra-violet.
This UV hits a mix of phosphors which produce sharp spectral spikes, and
which go black 120 times per second. Many people are irritated by that
darkness. (I am.) In some, the stress can produce immunological
symptoms; though this is more commonly noted on the continent, where 50
cycle AC is used instead of the American 60 cycle AC.
The new screw base type flourescents convert 60 cycle AC into 400 or
other higher frequency AC, minimizing the flicker. Some effort is also
made to provide a broader spectrum of light; though it's still not as
good as incandescents.
If you have seen white plasctic materials used in office settings,
you will note that there is high UV damage to the plastics, turning them
yellow in a matter of a few years. The phosphors do not block all of the
UV. There are studies showing that people who sit in office settings
under flourescents have a higher skin cancer rate than those who use
incandescent lighting.
So I would say that hot filament lights are optically far superior
to flourescent lights because they are continuous spectrum without
blinking.
> REGARDLESS; BOTH WOULD CAUSE UNDESIRED ENTRAINMENT
> INTERFERENCE.
The old flourescents, yes! Incandescents, no.
> I noticed difficulties thinking when I interviewed with a company under
> them. I declined the project specifically for that reason. Same with a
> couple of other companies under, or immediately next to that set of
> power lines.
>
> INTERESTING.
>
> Some people are affected, yet other people are not. Why? I don't
> know.
>
> IT IS RELATIVE TO A PERSON'S METABOLISM; THE NEUROCHEMISTRY,
> THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG USE, AND / OR STREET DRUG USE; GENETIC
> INHERITANCE, AND THE CORRESPONDING EFFECTS ON THE ENTIRE
> NEUROLOGICAL WHOLE; RELATIONAL ALSO, TO LIFE'S EXPERIENCES;
> BOTH PAST AND PRESENT..!
I don't know. I think the low metabolism types are more affected
than the fast metabolism types.
> All I do know, is that for some weeks, I may be sensitive to high
> strength magnetic fields. Yet this slowly goes away, and does not recur
> for months to years. So I assume that it has something to do with
> health.
>
> YES; EVER SINCE I STARTED TAKING THE DRUG CLONAZEPAM; IT;
> (CLONAZEPAM) HAS INCREASED MY ENTIRE NEURAL SENSITIVITY
> TO ELECTROMAGNETIC AND ELECTROPHOTONIC EMISSION..!
Intereting.
> I speculate that it could depend upon the number of iron microcrystals in
> your blood, or iron in your brain.
>
> YES; ALL OF IT..!
>
> This could be related to how well the ferritin / transferrin look is functioning,
> or how well iron is handled in other parts of the porphyrin pathways.
>
> I DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT FERRITIN AND TRANFERRIN.
>
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE?
The general porphyrin pathway is used to create heme, or plants,
chlorophyl. In humans, it reaches a point where there is a loop in
which ferritin becomes transferrin and back to ferritin. This loop is
powered by vitamin C. Beyond the loop, is the genration of the final
Heme or Cytochrome products.
Heme, of course, ends up in our blood cells for carrying oxygen.
Cytochrome P-450 is part of the general detoxification system, used
to deal with toxins from food, air, and bacteria. When you have an
infection, this system is going full blast trying to neutralize all
kinds of toxins produced by the bacteria.
This is also the system which slowly destroys about 20 - 30% of
the prescription drugs. If high use of prescription drugs overwhelms
this system, one starts having various problems, including intolerance
(like allergy, but not IgE based) to many chemicals such as solvents,
nail polish, air pollution, paint thinners, solder flux removers,
formaldehyde based adhesives and insluation, etc. etc. etc.
This results in a syndrome commonly called MCS, Multiple Chemical
Sensitivity. It is often the result of exposure to high levels of some
of these chemicals, which appear to damage the cells responsible for
detoxifying them, resulting in porphyria or more properly,
porphyrinuria.
If this is drug induced, it often diminishes when the drugs are no
longer taken; as the exposure is not, generally, so severe as to cause
permanent damage. If it has been aquired through extreme over-exposure
to solvents (e.g. a chemical spill), etc., then recovery is often not
possible, and the person has to learn how to avoid exposure to the
chemistry in order to survive.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Oct 22 21:15:56 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Oct 22 21:15:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
contest over next?
In-Reply-To: <20051023040126.99826.qmail@web51911.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5d788$77b1c3f0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Well Bob, I was thinking of exporting a product to them of similar quality
and longevity as the products they send us.
That ought to leave quite a few around for your therapy.
BTW, I need therapy akin to that- where can I get a prescription?
-Mike
BTW- The barbecue in Lexington was quite excellent! -MB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Juliano [mailto:rhjuliano@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:01 AM
> To: mbest@triad.rr.com
> Subject: RE: [Mad-Scientists] What will the commie Chinese start a pissing
> contest over next?
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Damn...
>
> I was hoping to keep a few extra women around here.
>
> My wife says it would be cheaper than therapy.
>
> Bob
>
>
> --- Michael Best wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Good one, Bob.
> >
> > Well, maybe we can export females to China in order
> > to equalize the foreign
> > exchange?
> >
> > Just a thought, and not a too serious one, at
> > that...
> >
> > -Mike
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 22:16:42 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 22:16:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on free energy.
In-Reply-To: <000c01c5d778$22d44070$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051023051642.51699.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
IMHO, the central reason Tesla was ostracized by his peers was his belief in
worldwide energy transmission. The Magnifying Transmitter could send
energy, with nearly zero losses, anywhere on the globe. However, how could
Edison Electric Company place a meter at the receiving station to meter, AND
BILL FOR, energy usage? Since Tesla didn't care for the realities of
enhancing profits, this never mattered to Tesla- so those whose enhanced
profits depended on selling energy were required to squelch his ideas,
before they lost their meal ticket!
-------------------
MIKE;
DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE REGARDING WHY THE SPHERICAL
GEOMETRY IS USED ATOP CERTAIN MODERN RADAR INSTALLATIONS?
I THINK THOSE RADAR INSTALLATIONS ARE THE MEDIA DOPPLER TYPE;
USED FOR THE MONITORING OF WEATHER PATTERNS, AND NOT THE
MILITARY AIR KONTROL TYPE.
COULD THERE BE ANY POSSIBLE POTENTIAL IN USING DOPPLER
RADAR, AND THE HIGH VOLTAGE - HIGH POWER - PULSED OUTPUT, TO
STIMULATE AND EFFECT CLOUD FORMATION, LIGHTNING, RAINFALL,
AND WIND, ETC, IF THERE MAY EXIST ANY POSSIBLE POTENTIAL IN
THAT, AT ALL?
Tesla's method is based upon the reality that the Earth is a giant spherical
capacitor, with ground and the ionosphere comprising the plates. There
exists a several megavolt e-field between the two at all times; this is the
cause of thunderstorms. Tesla even has a patent for collecting this energy
for use.
-------------------
new energy technologies that could eliminate
our suicidal dependence on fossil fuel.
!!!!*SUICIDAL DEPENDENCE ON FOSSIL FUEL, IS DAMNED STRAIGHT..!*!!!!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 22:31:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] http://www.earthpulse.com/
Message-ID: <20051023053117.75914.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 23:40:53 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 22 23:41:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT INTERESTING....
In-Reply-To: <20051023033857.30805.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051023064053.43626.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Religion, Lighting, and Biochemistry...
> The dead can't be entrained or trained. They are dead; no working
> brain cells, no working biochemistry, other than what rots them.
>
> YES; ALTHOUGH WHAT ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS OF THE
> PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE, OF TIME ITSELF; NONLINEAR
> TIME; AND NOT LINEAR TIME?
>
> I THINK THE BIBLE SAYS SOMEWHERE IN IT, THAT IT IS A SIN
> TO ATTEMPT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD AND DECEASED
> THOUGH..!
Well, the Catholics don't believe in that.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CATHOLICS BELIEVING THAT IT IS A
SIN TO ATTEMPT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD AND DECEASED?
Other religions range from communications to reincarnation.
YEAH.
I believe in reincarnation,
I'VE HAD VARIOUS DE JE VU (HOWEVER THE HELL IT IS SPELLED)
HAPPEN TO ME AT TIMES; WHICH HAS CAUSED ME TO QUESTION
IF REINCARNATION AND KARMA COULD HAVE SOME TRUTH TO
THEM.
with Karma being little more than part of the
competition as to which family will accept you as their child's soul. In
other words, if you have good relatives or close friends who think your a
good fellow, they would be honored to have you as their child, if they
are in the process of making one. If you are a bad fellow... you might
find that you end up catching some family that no one better than you
really wants as their folks... marriages that don't look like they will last,
wife beaters, alcoholics, etc.
OK.
There is the book "Children Who Remember Previous Lives" by some
doctor who collected recollections. Interesting reading!
OK.
Whether any of this is true; we can't be sure. However, I do have
some rather vivid memory fragments of previous lives which are quite
consistent with my character. Whether they are recollections of actual
lives, or just ways of representing my character, is not 100% clear. I
like to think those are real previous lives. I like to think it
explains why some friends and I just clicked very rapidly. We do seem
to share some recollections of such alleged previous lives. It just
seems to make sense to me. But again, as a scientist, I can not be 100%
sure.
YEAH.
(I do, however, think that the Catholic idea of heaven is one huge bore!
IF IT IS THE SAME WAY THAT MOST OF THE CHRISTIANS AT THE
CHURCH THAT I WAS RAISED AT, BELIEVE; THEN HEAVEN IS ONE
HUGE BORE WITH THEM AS WELL..!
And one of the more specific descriptions, that of our
entertainment being watching the people suffer in hell, strikes me as
so unconcionable that it makes that religion repugnant to me!
YEAH; I DON'T LIKE RELIGION ANYMORE; THOUGH I DO FIND
DIFFERENT BELIEFS SOMETIMES TO BE INTERESTING TO OBSERVE..!
IF THERE IS A HELL; I WISH IT WOULD PEACEFULLY FREEZE FOR
ETERNITY, AND THAT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE WOULD JUST FREEZE
WITH HELL, FOREVER..!
I'd rather be here, trying to make this world a better place.)
ME TOO..!
IF I COULD JUST PERMANENTLY STAY ON MY FEET..!
Incandescent bulbs waste most of their energy as heat,
YEAH; AND THAT HEAT PRODUCES WHITE NOISE..!
maybe two thirds to three quarters. Halogen and others may do a bit
better. The key is getting the filament hot enough to radiate energy. One
plus, is the 60 cycles does not let the filament cool down too much, so
the light is fairly continuous.
INCANDESCENT LIGHT STILL FLUCTUATES AT 60 CYCLES PER
SECOND, AS DO CONVENTIONAL FLOURESCENTS; AND THEY
BOTH EQUALLY EMIT STRONG E.L.F. 60 CYCLE ELECTROMAGNETIC
AND ELECTROPHOTONIC FIELDS..!
Traditional flourescents use a gas that glows in the ultra-violet.
I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT BEFORE.
This UV hits a mix of phosphors which produce sharp spectral spikes, and
which go black 120 times per second.
A MAJOR REASON WHY I GET SO NERVOUS AT TIMES AT MY PLACE
OF EMPLOYMENT; 120 SPECTRAL SPIKES PER SECOND + 60 CYCLES
PER SECOND A.C. ; ='S ELECTRONEUROSIS FOR ME..!
RHYMING!
Many people are irritated by that darkness.
IN MY CASE: IRRITATED BY BOTH THE DARK FLUCTUATIONS AND THE
LIGHT FLUCTUATIONS: EQUALLY..!
(I am.)
I AM TOO..!
In some, the stress can produce immunological symptoms;
YEAH; AND ALSO SEIZURE INDUCEMENT AS WELL..!
though this is more commonly noted on the continent,
(EUROPE, (FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND)
where 50 cycle AC is used instead of the American 60 cycle AC.
The new screw base type flourescents convert 60 cycle AC into 400 or
other higher frequency AC
YEAH; I KNEW THAT THEY FUNCTION AT A HIGHER FREQUENCY; BUT
THEY STILL EMIT HIGH VOLTAGE 60 C.P.S., HIGH ELECTROMAGNETIC,
HIGH ELECTROPHOTONIC, ELECTRONEUROTIC - ELECTRONEUROSIS
EFFECTING FIELDS..!
, minimizing the flicker.
YEAH; MINIMIZING THE FLICKER DOES HELP SOME..!
Some effort is also made to provide a broader spectrum of light; though it's
still not as good as incandescents.
YES.
THOUGH I DO NOT LIKE THE YELLOW LIGHT THAT INCANDESCENTS
OUTPUT.
I PREFER THE NEW JAPANESE MADE C.F.L.'S' ; THE ONE'S WHICH
OUTPUT WHITE LIGHT; I JUST DO NOT LIKE OPERATING THEM ON 120
V.A.C. - 60 C.P.S. POWER.
I'D LIKE TO OPERATE THE JAPANESE QUALITY WHITE LIGHT C.F.L.'S
ON HIGH VOLTAGE - 120 V.D.C. POWER INSTEAD.
ANYONE CAN GET THE OTHER C.F.L.'S; THE CHEAP CHINESE CRAP
C.F.L.'S THAT ARE SOLD AT MAINSTREAM BUSINESSES; LIKE LOWE'S
AND HOME DEPOT WHICH DO NOT OUTPUT TRUE WHITE LIGHT.
If you have seen white plastic materials used in office settings,
you will note that there is high UV damage to the plastics, turning them
yellow in a matter of a few years.
LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL DESKS IN MY SCHOOL DAYS..!
The phosphors do not block all of the UV. There are studies showing that
people who sit in office settings under flourescents have a higher skin
cancer rate than those who use incandescent lighting.
INTERESTING..!
So I would say that hot filament lights are optically far superior
to flourescent lights because they are continuous spectrum without
blinking.
I WOULD DISAGREE;
CONTINUOUS SPECTRUM WOULD IMPLY HAVING THE BULBS; WHETHER
THEY BE: INCANDESCENT, FLOURESCENT, HALOGEN, METAL HALIDE;
MERCURY VAPOR; NEON; ARGON; ETC.... POWERED ONLY BY RIPPLE
FREE, DIRECT CURRENT.
> REGARDLESS; BOTH WOULD CAUSE UNDESIRED ENTRAINMENT
> INTERFERENCE.
The old flourescents, yes! Incandescents, no.
I DISAGREE..!
EVEN THE HEAT WHITE NOISE EMISSION FROM INCANDESCENTS
PRODUCE 'SOME' DISTORTION TO THE ENTRAINMENT OF THE MIND..!
> I noticed difficulties thinking when I interviewed with a company under
> them. I declined the project specifically for that reason. Same with a
> couple of other companies under, or immediately next to that set of
> power lines.
>
> INTERESTING.
>
> Some people are affected, yet other people are not. Why? I don't
> know.
>
> IT IS RELATIVE TO A PERSON'S METABOLISM; THE NEUROCHEMISTRY,
> THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG USE, AND / OR STREET DRUG USE; GENETIC
> INHERITANCE, AND THE CORRESPONDING EFFECTS ON THE ENTIRE
> NEUROLOGICAL WHOLE; RELATIONAL ALSO, TO LIFE'S EXPERIENCES;
> BOTH PAST AND PRESENT..!
I don't know. I think the low metabolism types are more affected
than the fast metabolism types.
NOT NECESSARILY;
IN MY CASE; I HAVE HYPERSENSITIVITY, DUE TO THE FLUCTUATIONS..!
> All I do know, is that for some weeks, I may be sensitive to high
> strength magnetic fields. Yet this slowly goes away, and does not recur
> for months to years. So I assume that it has something to do with
> health.
>
> YES; EVER SINCE I STARTED TAKING THE DRUG CLONAZEPAM; IT;
> (CLONAZEPAM) HAS INCREASED MY ENTIRE NEURAL SENSITIVITY
> TO ELECTROMAGNETIC AND ELECTROPHOTONIC EMISSION..!
Interesting.
> I speculate that it could depend upon the number of iron microcrystals in
> your blood, or iron in your brain.
>
> YES; ALL OF IT..!
>
> This could be related to how well the ferritin / transferrin look is functioning,
> or how well iron is handled in other parts of the porphyrin pathways.
>
> I DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT FERRITIN AND TRANFERRIN.
>
> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE?
The general porphyrin pathway is used to create heme, or plants,
chlorophyl. In humans, it reaches a point where there is a loop in
which ferritin becomes transferrin and back to ferritin. This loop is
powered by vitamin C. Beyond the loop, is the generation of the final
Heme or Cytochrome products.
OK.
Heme, of course, ends up in our blood cells for carrying oxygen.
Cytochrome P-450 is part of the general detoxification system, used
to deal with toxins from food, air, and bacteria. When you have an
infection, this system is going full blast trying to neutralize all
kinds of toxins produced by the bacteria.
I WAS FAIRLY RECENTLY INFORMED THAT I NEEDED TO
INTAKE MORE LEMON JUICE; AND SO I HAVE DONE SO.
IT HAS A RELAXING EFFECT; AND I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO GET BETTER SLEEP BECAUSE OF THE COMBINATION OF
NOW DRINKING DISTILLED WATER, AND LEMON JUICE;
GREATLY LOWERING THE ACIDITY OF MY BODY'S pH.
This is also the system which slowly destroys about 20 - 30% of
the prescription drugs. If high use of prescription drugs overwhelms
this system, one starts having various problems, including intolerance
(like allergy, but not IgE based) to many chemicals such as solvents,
nail polish, air pollution, paint thinners, solder flux removers,
formaldehyde based adhesives and insluation, etc. etc. etc.
I NOW KNOW THAT ALL OF THE CHEMICALS IN THE ATMOSPHERE
OF THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF THE ALSUMA DISTRICT OF TULSA
HAVE CERTAINLY MADE MY LIFE HELL; OR HAVE AT LEAST AIDED
IN DOING SO.
This results in a syndrome commonly called MCS, Multiple Chemical
Sensitivity. It is often the result of exposure to high levels of some
of these chemicals, which appear to damage the cells responsible for
detoxifying them,
I NOW KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN BOTH CHEMICALLY AND GENETICALLY
DAMAGED, FROM ALL OF THE CHEMICAL SHIT THAT CONSTANTLY
STAGNATES IN THE AIR, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SHITHOLE DISTRICT OF
UNION (ONION) ALSUMA TULSA..!
resulting in porphyria or more properly, porphyrinuria.
THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN THAT I'VE BEEN SEEING RAN A
PORPHYRIA TEST FINALLY, BUT THE RESULTS CAME BACK
NEGATIVE.
BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT I AM DAMAGED -
CHEMICALLY.
I HOPE I CAN REVERSE THE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO
MYSELF.
If this is drug induced, it often diminishes when the drugs are no
longer taken; as the exposure is not, generally, so severe as to cause
permanent damage.
THE IRIDOLOGY TEST INDICATED THAT I HAVE RIGHT KIDNEY DAMAGE,
BLOCKAGE IN MY LIVER, AND PNEUMONIA TYPE OF LUNG TROUBLES.
If it has been aquired through extreme over-exposure to solvents (e.g. a
chemical spill), etc., then recovery is often not possible, and the person has
to learn how to avoid exposure to the chemistry in order to survive.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE FOR MYSELF; BUT I DON'T KNOW
HOW TO FIND OUT..
I'M TIRED; AND NEED TO GET SOME REST BEFORE WORK AT
7:00 A.M.
LATER, CLYDE
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Oct 23 16:47:57 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Oct 23 16:48:06 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Yet another opinion of the UN's gambit to steal
the Internet
Message-ID: <002f01c5d82c$323fa680$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Web of the Free
By MARK A. SHIFFRIN and AVI SILBERSCHATZ
Published: October 23, 2005, in _The New York Times_
New Haven
THERE is a move afoot at the United Nations and in the European Union to get
the United States to give up control of the Internet - a medium that America
created and on which it now critically relies.
Disingenuously calling for a "model of cooperation" in Internet governance
in advance of the World Summit on the Information Society to be held in
Tunisia in November, the European commissioner for information society and
media is opening the door to Internet regulation while saying that "we have
no intention to regulate the Internet."
This maneuver amounts to a call for the United States to depend on the
kindness of strangers in maintaining basic infrastructure that underpins our
national security and economy. Moreover, it threatens to whittle away the
freedom of the Internet with a series of seemingly minor and
well-intentioned compromises that begin with something that sounds as
reasonable as a "model of cooperation."
Any society needs certain basics to enable it to function. If the United
States had not created a postal service and post roads, for example,
national commerce could not have developed. Airports and air routes,
railways and highways are just modern-day post roads. The Internet is one
more step in this evolution. It provides new tools for communication
(supplementing regular mail with e-mail), buying and selling goods
(electronic retailing with goods delivered by public and private mail
services), financial transactions, and much more.
Full article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/opinion/23silberschatz.html?th&emc=th
Or:
http://snipurl.com/iwrj
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 17:48:27 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 23 17:48:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Yet another opinion of the UN's gambit to steal
the Internet
In-Reply-To: <002f01c5d82c$323fa680$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051024004827.30048.qmail@web51906.mail.yahoo.com>
Mike,
I work by this rule:
"all groups will try to take as much power for
themselves as possible: be it in the name of religion,
commerce, or naked power."
Some things the UN does, I like. Some things the UN
does, I don't like.
And I look forward to taking you up on the southern
hospitality. There is a chance I'll be passing through
North carolina in April. My wife is hoping to go to a
librarian's conference in Savannah.
Bob
--- Michael Best wrote:
> Web of the Free
>
> By MARK A. SHIFFRIN and AVI SILBERSCHATZ
> Published: October 23, 2005, in _The New York Times_
>
> New Haven
>
> THERE is a move afoot at the United Nations and in
> the European Union to get
> the United States to give up control of the Internet
> - a medium that America
> created and on which it now critically relies.
>
> Disingenuously calling for a "model of cooperation"
> in Internet governance
> in advance of the World Summit on the Information
> Society to be held in
> Tunisia in November, the European commissioner for
> information society and
> media is opening the door to Internet regulation
> while saying that "we have
> no intention to regulate the Internet."
>
> This maneuver amounts to a call for the United
> States to depend on the
> kindness of strangers in maintaining basic
> infrastructure that underpins our
> national security and economy. Moreover, it
> threatens to whittle away the
> freedom of the Internet with a series of seemingly
> minor and
> well-intentioned compromises that begin with
> something that sounds as
> reasonable as a "model of cooperation."
>
> Any society needs certain basics to enable it to
> function. If the United
> States had not created a postal service and post
> roads, for example,
> national commerce could not have developed. Airports
> and air routes,
> railways and highways are just modern-day post
> roads. The Internet is one
> more step in this evolution. It provides new tools
> for communication
> (supplementing regular mail with e-mail), buying and
> selling goods
> (electronic retailing with goods delivered by public
> and private mail
> services), financial transactions, and much more.
>
>
>
> Full article:
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/opinion/23silberschatz.html?th&emc=th
>
> Or:
> http://snipurl.com/iwrj
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 21:01:19 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 23 21:01:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT ACT: A NATIONAL HERITAGE
FOUNDATION.
Message-ID: <20051024040119.60965.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT ACT:
A NATIONAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION:
(WEBLINK:)
http://www.contactact.org/
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From thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us Mon Oct 24 04:38:44 2005
From: thrustmeister at spaceoffice.us (thrustmeister)
Date: Mon Oct 24 04:38:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT ACT: A NATIONAL
HERITAGE FOUNDATION.
In-Reply-To: <20051024040119.60965.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051024113844.40689.qmail@web407.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Keep those links coming! (I save almost all of them.)
clyde lofton wrote:
EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT ACT:
A NATIONAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION:
(WEBLINK:)
http://www.contactact.org/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 08:34:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 08:34:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THREE ADDITIONAL WEBLINKS TO SAVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051024113844.40689.qmail@web407.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051024153442.28995.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
thrustmeister < thrustmeister@spaceoffice.us > wrote:
Keep those links coming! (I save almost all of them.)
OK; HERE ARE THREE MORE WEBLINKS TO SAVE:
THE GATEWAY TO ASTRONAUT PHOTOGRAPHY:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/Coll/
EARTH FROM SPACE:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/EFS/atmo.htm
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/EFS/
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT ACT:
A NATIONAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION:
(WEBLINK:)
http://www.contactact.org/
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 10:06:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THREE ADDITIONAL WEBLINKS TO SAVE.
In-Reply-To: <20051024153442.28995.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 24, 2005 08:34:41 AM
Message-ID: <20051024170555.24634.qmail@mall-net.com>
New research on Schizophrenia, Genetics, and Dopamine levels:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-10/niom-twd101805.php
Excess dopamine levels in adolescence seems to trigger
schizophrenia. This is often due to a genetic mutation. Only some 30%
of the people with this go on to schizophrenia or other cognitive
problems. There is some loss of prefrontal brain tissue in some of
these syndromes.
Other research has shown that the brain regulates mentation via
circulatory changes. Dopamine and Serotonin play a role, Serotonin
being released by a class of cells in the brain to improve circulation
in areas which need to be more active. SSRI drugs (Prozac, et al)
target these cells to force them to release Serotonin in cases of
depression.
No mention is made that _some_ forms of schizophrenia are quite
treatable with high levels of niacin (often in the 5 gram range). It is
the balance between serotonin and dopamine which sets our cognitive
stance; niacin, dopamine, and serotonin all affect circulation in the
brain, and hence mood as well as ability. High dopamine levels restrict
circulation, whereas high serotonin levels increase it. Niacin and
L-tryptophan, a serotonin precursor, also increases circulation, and are
known to improve depression without the loss of internal circulatory
control, and hence without some of the loss of control of thought that
some takers SSRI drugs experience.
One of the key problems reported with SSRI drugs is the loss of
empathy for others. (Ref. Talking Back to Prozac) Numerous lawsuits
regarding SSRI induced suicide and murder have been settled out of court
according to the book and other publications.
There are some sociological studies reference in Science News long
ago suggesting that the presence of a few crazies in society keeps it
from getting mired in convention, thus improving the chances the society
will survive difficult times.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 24 12:04:33 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 24 12:04:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Nanocar
Message-ID: <005201c5d8cd$c62cb080$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Nanocar Rolls Into Action
World's first molecular car zips about on fullerene wheels
Bethany Halford
Automakers aren't losing any sleep over a car recently unveiled by Rice
University researchers. Forget about rich Corinthian leather. This new coupe
doesn't have any seating or steering. On the upside, though, with a
wheelbase less than 5 nm, parking it is unlikely to be a problem.
The new auto is the world's first single-molecule car. A group led by
chemistry professor James M. Tour constructed the tiny four-wheeler from an
oligo(phenylene ethynylene) chassis and axle covalently mounted to four
fullerene wheels. With the help of electrical engineering professor Kevin F.
Kelly and his lab, the team drove this nanocar around on a gold surface
using the tip of a scanning tunneling microscope (STM) (Nano Lett.,
published online Oct. 13, dx.doi.org/10.1021/nl051915k).
Full Article:
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i43/8343nanocar.html
From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 24 16:42:51 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 24 16:43:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of Governmental paranoia
Message-ID: <001301c5d8f4$a8abfa30$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Now here is a Mad Scientist in his formative stage, facing Government
persecution for indulging a normal, healthy curiosity! Is it any wonder why
the USA is now falling behind China and India in tech education?
-MB
Lawyer says 'bomb' was an experiment
'A thoughtless act, but . . . no malicious intent'
By RHONDA COOK
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/23/05
Georgia Tech freshman Theodore Hollot saw dry ice on sale at the grocery
store - and an opportunity to try an experiment that a chemistry professor
had demonstrated earlier that day.
On a Friday night earlier this month, Hollot worked in his dorm room in his
pajamas, putting varying combinations of dry ice and water into 12 soft
drink and sports drink bottles in hopes of creating enough carbonation to
cause the plastic containers to pop from the pressure.
Then the nuclear and radiological engineering major dropped the bottles from
his second-floor window onto the lawn outside the dorm, which is wedged
between the Connector exit ramp at North Avenue and the football stadium.
Hollot is free on a $7,000 signature bond and has been allowed to return to
classes though he is still prohibited from living on campus.
Full Article:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/1005/23mettech.html?cxntnid=a
mn102405e
Or:
http://snipurl.com/iz90
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 18:41:06 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 18:41:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Another example of Governmental paranoia
In-Reply-To: <001301c5d8f4$a8abfa30$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051025014106.41233.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Now here is a Mad Scientist in his formative stage, facing Government
persecution for indulging a normal, healthy curiosity! Is it any wonder why
the USA is now falling behind China and India in tech education?
YEAH; AMERICA IS SCREWED UP AND ASS
BACKWARDS/BASS ACKWARDS.
WHY HAS CAPITALISM MOVED TO COMMUNISM?
- CHINA?
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME - WHY..!
TECH EDUCATION HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA
OKLAHOMA, SUCKS..!
I CANNOT GET A GOOD ELECTRICAL AND BROADCAST
ENGINEERING EDUCATION HERE IN SLUMTOWN, AND
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND KNOWLEDGE OF
WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE, AND TO LIVE ON MY OWN
ELSEWHERE.
A FUTURE THAT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS;
MORALLY, TECHNICALLY, FINANCIALLY, AND PEACEFULLY.
MORALITY AND INDEPENDENT ENERGY TECHNOLOGY
MUST MERGE WITH ONE ANOTHER, FOR THE SURVIVAL
OF THE HUMAN RACE, FROM THE WAY I SEE THINGS;
AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT
HAS SCREWED MOST ALL OF US - IF NOT ALL OF US..!
CLYDE
-MB
Lawyer says 'bomb' was an experiment
'A thoughtless act, but . . . no malicious intent'
By RHONDA COOK
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/23/05
Georgia Tech freshman Theodore Hollot saw dry ice on sale at the grocery
store - and an opportunity to try an experiment that a chemistry professor
had demonstrated earlier that day.
On a Friday night earlier this month, Hollot worked in his dorm room in his
pajamas, putting varying combinations of dry ice and water into 12 soft
drink and sports drink bottles in hopes of creating enough carbonation to
cause the plastic containers to pop from the pressure.
Then the nuclear and radiological engineering major dropped the bottles from
his second-floor window onto the lawn outside the dorm, which is wedged
between the Connector exit ramp at North Avenue and the football stadium.
Hollot is free on a $7,000 signature bond and has been allowed to return to
classes though he is still prohibited from living on campus.
Full Article:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/1005/23mettech.html?cxntnid=amn102405e
Or:
http://snipurl.com/iz90
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 24 19:29:32 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 19:29:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of Governmental paranoia
In-Reply-To: <001301c5d8f4$a8abfa30$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
24, 2005 07:42:51 PM
Message-ID: <20051025022932.294.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Lawyer says 'bomb' was an experiment
> 'A thoughtless act, but . . . no malicious intent'
> On a Friday night earlier this month, Hollot worked in his dorm room in =
> his pajamas, putting varying combinations of dry ice and water into 12 soft
> drink and sports drink bottles in hopes of creating enough carbonation =
> to cause the plastic containers to pop from the pressure.
This, technically, is a bomb, especially since it was created with
the intent to cause an explosion. An innocent person picking up said
container could suffer serious injury.
> Hollot is free on a $7,000 signature bond and has been allowed to return =
> to classes though he is still prohibited from living on campus.
A bit excessive for a first occurrence, I'd say. Especially since
said was allegedly demonstrated by a professor.
However, one should note that I know of at least one case where
police were called out regarding similar dry ice / soda bottle bombs.
(Neighbor of a good friend of mine in California.) These things are
supposedly very loud.
A more acceptable use would likely be to fill the soda bottle half
full of water, invert it, and use the failure of the cap to launch it
into the air, thus demonstrating rocket propulsion. In that case,
adequate precedent exists in the form of pumped water rockets commonly
sold in toy stores, and the explosive failure of an occasional container
is a failure, not an intentional explosion. I would imagine scoring the
cap in some manner would facilitate cap failure when pressure reaches
adequate levels.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 19:41:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 19:41:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Another example of Governmental paranoia.
Message-ID: <20051025024150.53500.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Now here is a Mad Scientist in his formative stage, facing Government
persecution for indulging a normal, healthy curiosity! Is it any wonder why
the USA is now falling behind China and India in tech education?
-MB
YEAH; AMERICA IS SCREWED UP AND ASS
BACKWARDS/BASS ACKWARDS.
WHY HAS CAPITALISM MOVED TO COMMUNISM?
- CHINA?
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME - WHY..!
TECH EDUCATION HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA
OKLAHOMA, SUCKS..!
I CANNOT GET A GOOD ELECTRICAL AND BROADCAST
ENGINEERING EDUCATION HERE IN SLUMTOWN, AND
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND KNOWLEDGE OF
WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE, AND TO LIVE ON MY OWN
ELSEWHERE.
A FUTURE THAT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS;
MORALLY, TECHNICALLY, FINANCIALLY, AND PEACEFULLY.
MORALITY AND INDEPENDENT ENERGY TECHNOLOGY
MUST MERGE WITH ONE ANOTHER, FOR THE SURVIVAL
OF THE HUMAN RACE, FROM THE WAY I SEE THINGS;
AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT
HAS SCREWED MOST ALL OF US - IF NOT ALL OF US..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 19:52:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20051025025248.55080.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.mediaed.org/
http://www.internettime.com/jayblog/archives/001467.html
THE FOLLOWING IS MY FAVORITE DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPH
OUT OF EVERY ONE OF THE LOW EARTH ORBIT DIGITAL
PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I CAME ACROSS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/EFS/lores.pl?PHOTO=STS51F-31-69
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 19:58:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TESLA VS. MEGADETH.
Message-ID: <20051025025848.75948.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
TESLA (THE BAND) WEBSITE:
http://www.teslatheband.com
MEGADETH WEBSITE:
http://www.megadeth.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:13:17 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:13:29 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ADDITIONAL MEGADETH WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20051025031317.37267.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
ADDITIONAL MEGEDETH WEBLINKS:
http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wa/product?sku=MDT36589
http://www.megadeth.com/index.php?section=tshfcd
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:23:33 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:23:50 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER.
Message-ID: <20051025032334.60752.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER:
IN THE COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENT, WE MUST
GUARD AGAINST THE ACQUISITION OF UNWARRANTED
INFLUENCE, WHETHER SOUGHT OR UNSOUGHT, BY
THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. THE POTENTIAL
FOR THE DISASTROUS RISE OF MISPLACED POWER
EXISTS AND WILL PERSIST.
WE MUST NEVER LET THE WEIGHT OF THIS COMBINATION
ENDANGER OUR LIBERTIES OR DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES.
WE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. ONLY AN
ALERT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE CITIZENRY CAN COMPEL
THE PROPER MESHING OF THE HUGE INDUSTRIAL AND
MILITARY MACHINERY OF DEFENSE WITH OUR
PEACEFUL METHODS AND GOALS, SO THAT SECURITY
AND LIBERTY MAY PROSPER TOGETHER.
DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:25:16 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:25:44 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PEACE INDUCERS.
Message-ID: <20051025032517.35017.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
***********************************************************************************************************
PEACE INDUCERS:
1. ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT TECHNOLOGY;
(TECHNOLOGY TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE; BUT TO USE WITH
CAUTION, AS IT IS STILL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF BEING AN
EXPERIMENTAL TECHNOLOGY.).
2. NELUMBO LOTUS FLOWER; (NATURAL PEACE INDUCING SPIRITUAL
ENLIGHTENMENT, TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE.).
3. INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY; (AVAILABLE
FOR USE, AT YOUR LOCAL CHIROPRACTIC CARE DOCTOR;
(TECHNOLOGY THAT IS FAR SUPERIOR TO ANY SEXUAL
ORGASM THAT YOU'LL EVER EXPERIENCE; GUARANTEED!).
(TESLA MECHANICAL RESONANCE, VIBRATION THERAPY
TECHNOLOGY, FOR BACK MASSAGE ONLY; DON'T CONFUSE
IT WITH SEX TOYS!).
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:25:55 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:25:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Globalism.
Message-ID: <20051025032555.39303.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Fuck the attempts of the Financial Industrial
Komplex, the Pharmacology Industrial Komplex,
the Military Industrial Komplex, and the Energy
Industrial Komplexes, from their attempts at
totalitarian dictatorship over America, and over
the entire globe.
Fuck Globalism!
Clyde Lofton
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:28:13 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:28:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CONSTITUTION PARTY,
VS. THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S) TRUST.
In-Reply-To: <20050831025803.17186.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025032813.48575.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
THE CONSTITUTION PARTY, VS. THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S) TRUST:
A: THE CONSTITUTION PARTY:
1. http://www.constitutionparty.com
2. http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php
B: THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S) TRUST:
1. http://www.lucistrust.org
2. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/lucifers_network_1.htm
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 24 20:28:20 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:28:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of Governmental paranoia
In-Reply-To: <20051025022932.294.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <003101c5d914$263332b0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
As the statute of limitations has long since expired, I can relate this
story.
Many years back, while working the graveyard shift as a QC lab tech at a
local urethane plant one dreary Sunday morning, I created the mother of all
firecrackers. I took a polyethylene 55 gallon drum liner, and inflated it
inside a large corrugated cardboard paper towel box, using an appropriate
mixture of acetylene and oxygen from a torch in the plant maintenance shop.
After taping the box shut, in hopes of insuring detonation instead of a
simple fireball, I took this device out back to the railroad siding.
I used a KMNO4/glycerine timed-delay igniter to set it off, allowing me
about five minutes to retreat to a safe distance.
After the device was active, a local cop pulled a driver over, on suspicion
of drunk driving, about two hundred yards down the street. The driver was
outside his vehicle, playing cop games of Walk-The-Line and Touch-The-Nose
when...
_*BOOM!!!*_
I was twenty yards away, and was knocked flat on my young ass! The largest
piece of the device left was a quarter-inch shard of cardboard confetti.
The poor drunk driver hit the ground, praying. The cop immediately fled,
letting his arrestee go. (Lucky night for THAT drunk, I hope he learned a
lesson.)
About ten minutes later, the fire department arrived, asking what happened.
Of course, neither the production super nor I knew anything (he assisted in
this experiment). They told us that the blast rattled windowpanes three
miles away.
I never replicated THIS experiment!
Heh heh heh
-MB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:30 PM
> To: mbest@triad.rr.com
> Cc: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG
> Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of Governmental paranoia
>
> > Lawyer says 'bomb' was an experiment
> > 'A thoughtless act, but . . . no malicious intent'
>
> > On a Friday night earlier this month, Hollot worked in his dorm room in
> =
> > his pajamas, putting varying combinations of dry ice and water into 12
> soft
> > drink and sports drink bottles in hopes of creating enough carbonation =
> > to cause the plastic containers to pop from the pressure.
>
> This, technically, is a bomb, especially since it was created with
> the intent to cause an explosion. An innocent person picking up said
> container could suffer serious injury.
>
> > Hollot is free on a $7,000 signature bond and has been allowed to return
> =
> > to classes though he is still prohibited from living on campus.
>
> A bit excessive for a first occurrence, I'd say. Especially since
> said was allegedly demonstrated by a professor.
>
> However, one should note that I know of at least one case where
> police were called out regarding similar dry ice / soda bottle bombs.
> (Neighbor of a good friend of mine in California.) These things are
> supposedly very loud.
>
> A more acceptable use would likely be to fill the soda bottle half
> full of water, invert it, and use the failure of the cap to launch it
> into the air, thus demonstrating rocket propulsion. In that case,
> adequate precedent exists in the form of pumped water rockets commonly
> sold in toy stores, and the explosive failure of an occasional container
> is a failure, not an intentional explosion. I would imagine scoring the
> cap in some manner would facilitate cap failure when pressure reaches
> adequate levels.
>
> -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
> CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
> Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
> My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
> I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
>
> For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
> orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
> Today's Art Photo
> Chem / Fungus allergies
> Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
> Arthritis
> Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
> Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd.
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:28:50 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:28:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MIGHTY MOUSE SONG LYRICS; BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20051025032851.36245.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
MIGHTY MOUSE SONG LYRICS; BY: TESLA (THE BAND):
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2005-April/000463.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 24 20:29:29 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:29:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER.
In-Reply-To: <20051025032334.60752.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 24, 2005 08:23:33 PM
Message-ID: <20051025032929.30371.qmail@mall-net.com>
> QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER:
>
> IN THE COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENT, WE MUST
> GUARD AGAINST THE ACQUISITION OF UNWARRANTED
> INFLUENCE, WHETHER SOUGHT OR UNSOUGHT, BY
> THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. THE POTENTIAL
> FOR THE DISASTROUS RISE OF MISPLACED POWER
> EXISTS AND WILL PERSIST.
And any other complex, like the pharma-health complex which now has
huge sway over what we may consume.
> WE MUST NEVER LET THE WEIGHT OF THIS COMBINATION
> ENDANGER OUR LIBERTIES OR DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES.
Case in point: the McCarthy hearings.
> WE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. ONLY AN
> ALERT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE CITIZENRY CAN COMPEL
> THE PROPER MESHING OF THE HUGE INDUSTRIAL AND
> MILITARY MACHINERY OF DEFENSE WITH OUR
> PEACEFUL METHODS AND GOALS, SO THAT SECURITY
> AND LIBERTY MAY PROSPER TOGETHER.
>
> DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER.
Wise man! He ran our side in WW-II. Wish he'd foreseen other
complexes, such as the FDA-NIH-Pharma complex.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:29:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:29:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025032932.35500.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY:
http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573
A HEALTH TECHNOLOGY THAT NEEDS UNIFIED MASS SCALE
COOPERATIVE MASS PRODUCTION EFFORT, WITH WORLD
WAR TWO, WAR MACHINE WARTIME SPEED, FOR THIS ENTIRE
HURTING NATION.
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:30:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK.
Message-ID: <20051025032949.61591.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 24 20:30:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE; LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051025033010.27438.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE;
LYRICS:
http://www.lyricstime.com/lyrics/25003.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 24 21:04:05 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:04:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another example of Governmental paranoia
In-Reply-To: <003101c5d914$263332b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
24, 2005 11:28:20 PM
Message-ID: <20051025040405.46224.qmail@mall-net.com>
> As the statute of limitations has long since expired, I can relate this
> story.
> _*BOOM!!!*_
>
> I was twenty yards away, and was knocked flat on my young ass! The =
> largest
> piece of the device left was a quarter-inch shard of cardboard confetti. =
Cute!
I was Chief Artillery Officer in the "Confederate Tank Corps".
("Know where your tank is at all times.") and have some documents
(albeit produced by myself for my friends) to prove it.
Friend Phil had acquired an M-19, a 20.5 ton, twin engined, tracked
military vehicle; essentially an open turret version of an M-26 WW-II
light tank. It had been used as the dead weight on a drag line prior
to this acquisition. We, um, spend some time reconditioning this vehicle.
Fortunately, this one came with rubber "parade" tracks, so it could be
run in pavement, which we did on New Year's Eve, with Christmas lights
strung across it.
Similar photo:
http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/M19-Dual40.htm
To replace the twin 40mm Bofors anti-aircraft cannon, we used
surplus lamp posts. For effects on the Fourth of July, I used half a
cup of water, some carbide, and a wire run through a hole in a wooden
plug on one of the lamp posts, held in place by a hefty steel rod
through some holes in the remainder of the cut up breach mechanism of
the original cannons.
Set off in a tunnel on an abandoned railroad right of way, the
flames from the cannon are said to have been six feet long, and
similarly heard some two to three miles away.
(I probably have some hearing loss from the first use; they rang
for well over a day. In subsequent years, I used ear plugs.)
It was interesting to see the reaction of people whom we
encountered on the abandoned railroad right of way behind Phil's home.
People forgot how to ride motorcycles, etc.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 24 21:08:00 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:08:03 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Globalism.
In-Reply-To: <20051025032555.39303.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 24, 2005 08:25:55 PM
Message-ID: <20051025040800.47950.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Fuck the attempts of the Financial Industrial
> Komplex, the Pharmacology Industrial Komplex,
> the Military Industrial Komplex, and the Energy
> Industrial Komplexes, from their attempts at
> totalitarian dictatorship over America, and over
> the entire globe.
> Fuck Globalism!
Actually, since we vote with our dollars every time we buy anything
in the open market, it is we who are voting for globalism. We are
consistently voting for mass produced goods from the lowest cost nation.
Industry, local or otherwise, is springing up to honor our requests.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Oct 24 21:13:08 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:13:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More Kofi duplicity from the New World Order
Message-ID: <003901c5d91a$6a5660b0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
The "Official" UN report regarding the Lebanese assassination by the
Syrians, sanitized by the African Socialist God Kofi Himself, is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/international/20051023_mehlisreport.pdf
or:
http://tinyurl.com/dazl3
However, it seems that a "leaked" version of this SAME report is available,
the version BEFORE God Kofi sanitized it!
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs/mehlisreport.pdf
I have saved a copy of this report, in anticipation that this link WILL be
terminated quite soon, to protect the guilty. If this link fails, email me
for a copy.
Even more evidence, IMHO, as to why the UN should be disbanded. And WHO in
their right mind would want THESE liars running the Internet?
-MB
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 21:30:17 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:30:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CONSTITUTION PARTY,
VS. THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S) TRUST.
In-Reply-To: <20051025032813.48575.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025043017.86162.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
I assume you're a fellow american, and therefore I'll
support your right to speak your piece...
But I think the "constitution party" has got to be one
the the larger collection of jerks I've run across
(going by the information on their web site.)
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> THE CONSTITUTION PARTY, VS. THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S)
> TRUST:
>
>
> A: THE CONSTITUTION PARTY:
>
> 1. http://www.constitutionparty.com
>
> 2.
> http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php
>
>
> B: THE LUCIS (LUCIFER'S) TRUST:
>
> 1. http://www.lucistrust.org
>
> 2.
>
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/lucifers_network_1.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 21:33:27 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Oct 24 21:33:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20051025032932.35500.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025043328.53950.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
I'm SO saving up my pennies for thing...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY:
>
>
http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573
>
> A HEALTH TECHNOLOGY THAT NEEDS UNIFIED MASS SCALE
> COOPERATIVE MASS PRODUCTION EFFORT, WITH WORLD
> WAR TWO, WAR MACHINE WARTIME SPEED, FOR THIS ENTIRE
> HURTING NATION.
>
> CLYDE LOFTON
> TULSA, OKLAHOMA
> clydelofton@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 04:48:19 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 04:48:25 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Globalism.
In-Reply-To: <20051025040800.47950.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051025114819.15878.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Fuck the attempts of the Financial Industrial
> Komplex, the Pharmacology Industrial Komplex,
> the Military Industrial Komplex, and the Energy
> Industrial Komplexes, from their attempts at
> totalitarian dictatorship over America, and over
> the entire globe.
> Fuck Globalism!
Actually, since we vote with our dollars every time we
buy anything in the open market,
it is we who are voting for globalism.
IT IS NOT ALL OF WE..!
I'VE READ OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
PISSED AT HOW WLMARTS ARE DRIVING
MOM AND POP SMALL BUSINESSES OUT
OF SMALL TOWNS AND LARGE TOWNS,
AND THAT THE WALMARTS ARE TREATING
THE EMPLOYS AS UNFAIRLY AS CAN BE
NOW.
WALMART IS PART OF THE SELLOUT TO
CRAPPUNIST CHINA.
We are consistently voting for mass produced goods
from the lowest cost nation.
NOT ALL OF WE..!
THE POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED
SMALL BUSINESS.
Industry, local or otherwise, is springing up to honor
(" our ")
requests.
YEAH; INDUSTRY IN TURD WORLD COUNTRY
COMMUNIST CRAP CRAPPUNIST CHINA..!
FUCK CHINA..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 05:24:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 05:24:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JIM WALLIS: WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND LEFT
DOESN'T GET IT.
In-Reply-To: <20051019012329.59719.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025122447.52023.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
JIM WALLIS:
WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND
THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/02/23/findrelig.DTL
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 05:28:07 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 05:28:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20051025043328.53950.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025122807.22475.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
I'm SO saving up my pennies for that thing...
Bob
YEAH; THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS MASS SCALE
MASS PRODUCTION: MADE IN AMERICA..!
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY:
>
>
http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573
>
> A HEALTH TECHNOLOGY THAT NEEDS UNIFIED MASS SCALE
> COOPERATIVE MASS PRODUCTION EFFORT, WITH WORLD
> WAR TWO, WAR MACHINE WARTIME SPEED, FOR THIS ENTIRE
> HURTING NATION.
>
> CLYDE LOFTON
> TULSA, OKLAHOMA
> clydelofton@yahoo.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 05:45:02 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 05:45:08 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Message from Congressman John Sullivan.
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20051025124502.56199.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
MAYBE SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN FORWARD THIS E-MAIL
MESSAGE TO MY SO-CALLED CITY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE:
CONGRESSMAN JOHN SULLIVAN.
THE ok01ima.pub@mail.house.gov SO-CALLED E-MAIL ADDRESS IS
A FRAUDULENT E-MAIL ADDRESS.
THE E-MAIL WILL NOT GO THROUGH..!
CLYDE
ok01ima.pub@mail.house.gov wrote:
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns on federal policy. I am
pleased to receive correspondence from all Oklahomans. I am currently
looking into the issue you mentioned and will respond to your concerns
more specifically as soon as possible. However, if you currently reside
outside of the First Congressional District, I am not able to assure a
response. Again, thank you for contacting me.
MR. SULLIVAN,
AS YOU MORE THAN LIKELY ALREADY KNOW; I HAVE PLAYED
THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH SIDES OF
THE POLITICAL FENCE.
DEVIL'S ADVOCACY IS NOT MY WILL.
CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS PEACE FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF,
BUT FOR OTHERS EQUALLY AS WELL..!
AND CHRISTS ADVOCACY IS MY WILL..!
1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC ENERGY INDEPENDENCE..!
3. AMERICA EQUALLY ALSO NEEDS SUBJECTS THAT I AM
UNABLE TO LIST HERE; BUT THE TWO ABOVE NAMED
SUBJECTS ARE ONE'S WHICH HAVE BEEN ON MY MIND FOR
A VERY VERY LONG TIME.
UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT WANTS CIVIL WAR; THIS COUNTRY
NEEDS TO CHANGE ITS WAYS IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE -
WITH WARTIME WAR MACHINE SPEED VELOCITY..!
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 05:50:26 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 05:50:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Undeliverable: Re: Message from Congressman
John Sullivan.
In-Reply-To: <205E6746C919104F862E7377D96E5CA70614412D@ims10.houseexchange.us.house.gov>
Message-ID: <20051025125026.77618.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
System Administrator < postmaster@mail.house.gov > wrote:
Your message
To: Congressman John Sullivan
Subject: Re: Message from Congressman John Sullivan.
Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:40:48 -0400
did not reach the following recipient(s):
Congressman John Sullivan on Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:40:49 -0400
The message could not be delivered because you do not have create
permissions on this folder or it is only available to folder owners at this
time
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=u.s. house of
re;l=IMS0905102512404HJWN0AH
MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:U.S. House:PF04
From: clyde lofton
To: Congressman John Sullivan
Subject: Re: Message from Congressman John Sullivan.
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:40:48 -0400
ok01ima.pub@mail.house.gov wrote:
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns on federal policy. I am
pleased to receive correspondence from all Oklahomans. I am currently
looking into the issue you mentioned and will respond to your concerns
more specifically as soon as possible. However, if you currently reside
outside of the First Congressional District, I am not able to assure a
response. Again, thank you for contacting me.
MR. SULLIVAN,
AS YOU MORE THAN LIKELY ALREADY KNOW; I HAVE PLAYED
THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH SIDES OF
THE POLITICAL FENCE.
DEVIL'S ADVOCACY IS NOT MY WILL.
CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS PEACE FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF,
BUT FOR OTHERS EQUALLY AS WELL..!
AND CHRISTS ADVOCACY IS MY WILL..!
1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL..!
2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC ENERGY INDEPENDENCE..!
3. AMERICA EQUALLY ALSO NEEDS SUBJECTS THAT I AM
UNABLE TO LIST HERE; BUT THE TWO ABOVE NAMED
SUBJECTS ARE ONE'S WHICH HAVE BEEN ON MY MIND FOR
A VERY VERY LONG TIME.
UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT WANTS CIVIL WAR; THIS COUNTRY
NEEDS TO CHANGE ITS WAYS IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE -
WITH WARTIME WAR MACHINE SPEED VELOCITY..!
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
clydelofton@yahoo.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 06:59:37 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 06:59:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MEGADETH. HANGAR 18; SONG LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051025135937.89982.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
MEGADETH.
HANGAR 18; SONG LYRICS:
http://www.lyricstime.com/megadeth-hangar-18-lyrics.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 07:12:43 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 07:12:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED REPLY: Globalism.
In-Reply-To: <20051025114819.15878.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051025141243.47378.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Fuck the attempts of the Financial Industrial
> Komplex, the Pharmacology Industrial Komplex,
> the Military Industrial Komplex, and the Energy
> Industrial Komplexes, from their attempts at
> totalitarian dictatorship over America, and over
> the entire globe.
> Fuck Globalism!
Actually, since we vote with our dollars every time we
buy anything in the open market,
it is we who are voting for globalism.
IT IS NOT ALL OF WE..!
I'VE READ OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE ARE
PISSED AT HOW WALMARTS ARE DRIVING
MOM AND POP SMALL BUSINESSES OUT
OF SMALL TOWNS AND LARGE TOWNS
ALIKE, AND HOW THE WALMARTS ARE
NOW TREATING THE EMPLOYEES WHO
WORK FOR THEM AS UNFAIRLY AS CAN BE.
WALMART IS PART OF THE SELLOUT TO
CRAPPUNIST CHINA.
SAM WALTON IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE;
I AM SURE OF; AT THE SELLOUT OF AMERICA
TO COMMUNIST SHIT CHINA.
We are consistently voting for mass produced goods
from the lowest cost nation.
NOT ALL OF WE..!
THE POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED
SMALL BUSINESS.
Industry, local or otherwise, is springing up to honor
(" our ")
requests.
YEAH; INDUSTRY IN TURD WORLD COUNTRY
COMMUNIST CRAP CRAPPUNIST CHINA..!
FUCK CHINA..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 08:04:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 08:04:23 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TEN THOUSAND FISTS; BY: DISTURBED.
Message-ID: <20051025150400.92716.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
TEN THOUSAND FISTS; BY: DISTURBED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ten_thousand_fists_albumcover.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Thousand_Fists
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 25 11:31:18 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 25 11:31:25 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED REPLY: Globalism.
In-Reply-To: <20051025141243.47378.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 25, 2005 07:12:43 AM
Message-ID: <20051025183118.48990.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Actually, since we vote with our dollars every time we
> buy anything in the open market,
>
> it is we who are voting for globalism.
>
> IT IS NOT ALL OF WE..!
Majority rules. Even if, at times, it is the majority of the
dollars.
> I'VE READ OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE ARE
> PISSED AT HOW WALMARTS ARE DRIVING
> MOM AND POP SMALL BUSINESSES OUT
> OF SMALL TOWNS AND LARGE TOWNS
> ALIKE, AND HOW THE WALMARTS ARE
> NOW TREATING THE EMPLOYEES WHO
> WORK FOR THEM AS UNFAIRLY AS CAN BE.
> WALMART IS PART OF THE SELLOUT TO
> CRAPPUNIST CHINA.
So, don't shop there. Go pay premium for American Goods.
> SAM WALTON IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE;
> I AM SURE OF; AT THE SELLOUT OF AMERICA
> TO COMMUNIST SHIT CHINA.
The sellout of American Labor is a small part of the problem. The
real problem is that we have funded the dictatorship of Communist China
and enabled it to move from the stone age to the status of a world
power. We may well end up in a major war with China, thanks to Nixon,
Carter, et al allowing out money to flow into and support a militaristic
regime in the largest nation in the world.
> We are consistently voting for mass produced goods
> from the lowest cost nation.
>
> NOT ALL OF WE..!
> THE POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED
> SMALL BUSINESS.
It is earlier to start a small business now, than ever before;
both from the regulation standpoint, the investment standpoint, and the
equipment standpoint.
> Industry, local or otherwise, is springing up to honor
>
> (" our ")
>
> requests.
>
> YEAH; INDUSTRY IN TURD WORLD COUNTRY
> COMMUNIST CRAP CRAPPUNIST CHINA..!
> FUCK CHINA..!
We will always vote with our dollars. The only way we can change
that, is by erecting huge trade barriers to FORCE our people to PAY for
American Labor. You can argue that the American Labor Unions did this
to us by forcing wages up. I'm not sure what portion of the problems is
actually due to the Labor Unions, but some clearly is.
And when we do, WW-III will start, just like WW-II did.
The real question, is whether we or they have more mad scientists.
It is our mad scientists and their cryptography, proximity fuses,
hedge cutters, jeeps, ducks (like floating trucks), and a bunch of other
real inventions that won the war. Our atomic bombs came in late, won
Japan, and scared the new other side from attacking us for a long time.
Yes, our army guys did the work; but without our rapid
invention-to-practice mentality, they would not have won so rapidly.
And it is that, not the bombs, that caused the sovs to collapse as well.
That mad scientist mentality is critical to our survival. We have
got to keep feeding it, to keep creating more of them.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Oct 25 11:32:51 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Oct 25 11:32:57 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Message from Congressman John Sullivan.
In-Reply-To: <20051025124502.56199.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 25, 2005 05:45:02 AM
Message-ID: <20051025183251.50334.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MAYBE SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN FORWARD THIS E-MAIL
> MESSAGE TO MY SO-CALLED CITY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE:
> CONGRESSMAN JOHN SULLIVAN.
> THE ok01ima.pub@mail.house.gov SO-CALLED E-MAIL ADDRESS IS
> A FRAUDULENT E-MAIL ADDRESS.
> THE E-MAIL WILL NOT GO THROUGH..!
There appears to be some configuration difficulty at the present
time. I am sure they will fix this in the very near future.
-javilk- mall-net.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 18:06:46 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:06:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED REPLY: Globalism.
In-Reply-To: <20051025183118.48990.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051026010647.49551.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
The real question, is whether we or they have more mad scientists.
It is our mad scientists and their cryptography, proximity fuses,
hedge cutters, jeeps, ducks (like floating trucks), and a bunch of other
real inventions that won the war. Our atomic bombs came in late, won
Japan, and scared the new other side from attacking us for a long time.
Yes, our army guys did the work; but without our rapid
invention-to-practice mentality, they would not have won so rapidly.
And it is that, not the bombs, that caused the sovs to collapse as well.
That mad scientist mentality is critical to our survival. We have
got to keep feeding it, to keep creating more of them.
MASS PRODUCTION OF INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE
TECHNOLOGY, AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE TECHNOLOGY
AT SPECIFIC FREQUECIES NEED TO BE MADE A REALITY, HERE IN
THE U. S. OF A.
I, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS, ARE HURTING BADLY, DUE TO THE
SUPPRESSION OF MORALITY, INDEPENDENT ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES, AND HEALTH CARE TECHNOLOGIES..!
THIS COUNTRY BETTER PICK UP THE PACE.
ARE WE THE PEOPLE TOO DIVIDED BY SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001,
TO BAN TOGETHER, AND START WARTIME SPEED PRODUCTION
OF REPRESSED TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE FAR FAR LONG
OVERDUE????
HURTING;
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:12:28 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TO PEACE. SONG LYRICS. BY: SUBMERSED.
Message-ID: <20051026011217.83164.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
TO PEACE.
SONG LYRICS.
BY: SUBMERSED:
http://www.lyricsdemon.com/lyrics.php?songid=77730
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 18:16:40 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 18:16:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Message from Congressman John Sullivan.
In-Reply-To: <20051025183251.50334.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051026011640.24165.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> MAYBE SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN FORWARD THIS E-MAIL
> MESSAGE TO MY SO-CALLED CITY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE:
> CONGRESSMAN JOHN SULLIVAN.
> THE ok01ima.pub@mail.house.gov SO-CALLED E-MAIL ADDRESS IS
> A FRAUDULENT E-MAIL ADDRESS.
> THE E-MAIL WILL NOT GO THROUGH..!
There appears to be some configuration difficulty at the present
time. I am sure they will fix this in the very near future.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT FOR ANY BULLSHIT..!
I JUST WANT THE MESSAGE DELIVERED IMMEDIATELY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 20:04:04 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Oct 25 20:04:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO WEBLINKS....
Message-ID: <20051026030404.3293.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.physorg.com/news7499.html
http://www.weathermod.com/weather_radar.php
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 26 11:38:49 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 26 11:39:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO WEBLINKS....
In-Reply-To: <20051026030404.3293.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 25, 2005 08:04:04 PM
Message-ID: <20051026183849.20707.qmail@mall-net.com>
> http://www.physorg.com/news7499.html
The metal powered car! Hydrogen and steam from reacting magnesium
or aluminum with water. Wooo Hooo!!! ... Maybe.
I presume that back yard solar concentrators will eventually be
invented to refine the metal oxides, so the "gas" stations will
eventually end up somewhat less common than now.
> http://www.weathermod.com/weather_radar.php
Weather modification. Well, we've been doing that on and off since
the first rainman burned smoky stuff to help nucleate rain.
It is rather limited what can be done. Nucleation, that is,
providing something for drops to form upon, is about the limits of what
we can do. Doing that in the path of storms can reduce the energy
(thermal and hygro-gravitic) in the air ahead of the storm, thus making
the storm more likely to veer toward areas of higher energy and away
from areas of already dissipated energy.
The Mexicans got after us for trying to reduce hurricane damage, as
some of the deflected storms supposedly had a tendency to head their
way.
Rich history of science and "salesmanship" in that field!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 12:10:39 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 12:10:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GENESIS: LAND OF CONFUSION; LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051026191039.79665.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
GENESIS:
LAND OF CONFUSION; LYRICS:
WEBLINK:
http://www.lyricswizard.com/lyrics_g/Genesis_song_lyrics/Land_Of_Confusion_lyrics_songs/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 12:40:37 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 12:40:47 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAND OF CONFUSION: CORRECTED / RETYPED LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20051026194038.7821.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
GENESIS.
LAND OF CONFUSION.
CORRECTED / RETYPED LYRICS:
I MUST'VE DREAMED A THOUSAND DREAMS
BEEN HAUNTED BY A MILLION SCREAMS
I CAN HEAR THE MARCHING FEET
THEY'RE MOVING INTO THE STREET
NOW DID YOU READ THE NEWS TODAY
THEY SAY THE DANGER'S GONE AWAY
BUT I CAN SEE THE FIRE'S STILL ALIGHT
BURNING INTO THE NIGHT
TO MANY MEN
TOO MANY PEOPLE
MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
AND THERE'S NOT MUCH LOVE TO GO ROUND
CAN'T YOU SEE
THIS IS THE LAND OF CONFUSION
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
AND THESE ARE THE HANDS WE'RE GIVEN
USE THEM AND LETS START TRYING
TO MAKE IT A PLACE WORTH LIVING IN
OH SUPERMAN WHERE ARE YOU NOW
EVERYTHING'S GONE WRONG SOMEHOW
THE MEN OF STEEL, MEN OF POWER
ARE LOSING CONTROL BY THE HOUR
THIS IS THE TIME
THIS IS THE PLACE
SO WE LOOK FOR THE FUTURE
BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH LOVE TO GO ROUND
TELL ME WHY, THIS IS A LAND OF CONFUSION
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
AND THESE ARE THE HANDS WE'RE GIVEN
USE THEM AND LET'S START TRYING
TO MAKE IT A PLACE WORTH LIVING IN
I REMEMBER LONG AGO -
WHEN THE SUN WAS SHINING
THE STARS WERE BRIGHT
ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT
AND THE SOUND OF YOUR LAUGHTER
AS I HELD YOU TIGHT
SO LONG AGO -
I WON'T BE COMING HOME TONIGHT
MY GENERATION WILL PUT IT RIGHT
WE'RE NOT JUST MAKING PROMISES
THAT WE KNOW WE'LL NEVER KEEP
TOO MANY MEN
TOO MANY PEOPLE
MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
AND THERE'S NOT MUCH LOVE TO GO ROUND
CAN'T YOU SEE
THIS IS THE LAND OF CONFUSION
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
AND THESE ARE THE HANDS WE'RE GIVEN
USE THEM AND LET'S START TRYING
TO MAKE IT A PLACE WORTH FIGHTING FOR
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
AND THESE ARE THE NAMES WE'RE GIVEN
STAND UP AND LET'S START SHOWING
JUST WHERE OUR LIVES ARE GOING TO
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 12:46:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 12:46:41 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO WEBLINKS....
In-Reply-To: <20051026183849.20707.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051026194628.55080.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> http://www.physorg.com/news7499.html
The metal powered car! Hydrogen and steam from reacting magnesium
or aluminum with water. Wooo Hooo!!! ... Maybe.
WELL REGARDLESS; AMERICA NEEDS TO F'ING PICK UP THE PACE..!
I presume that back yard solar concentrators will eventually be
invented to refine the metal oxides, so the "gas" stations will
eventually end up somewhat less common than now.
MAYBE SO; BUT SOMEDAY APPEARS AS THOUGH IT WILL NEVER
COME..!
> http://www.weathermod.com/weather_radar.php
Weather modification. Well, we've been doing that on and off since
the first rainman burned smoky stuff to help nucleate rain.
OK.
It is rather limited what can be done. Nucleation, that is,
providing something for drops to form upon, is about the limits of what
we can do. Doing that in the path of storms can reduce the energy
(thermal and hygro-gravitic) in the air ahead of the storm, thus making
the storm more likely to veer toward areas of higher energy and away
from areas of already dissipated energy.
OK.
The Mexicans got after us for trying to reduce hurricane damage, as
some of the deflected storms supposedly had a tendency to head their
way.
DEFLECTED HURRICANES..!
IT'S TOO LATE TO DEFLECT KATRINA AND RITA.
SORRY FOLKS..!
Rich history of science and "salesmanship" in that field!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 12:53:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 12:53:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] "JESUS OUR SCIENTIST."....
Message-ID: <20051026195333.326.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
"JESUS OUR SCIENTIST."
WEBLINK:
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 26 13:34:49 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 26 13:34:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO WEBLINKS....
In-Reply-To: <20051026194628.55080.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 26, 2005 12:46:27 PM
Message-ID: <20051026203449.4577.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > http://www.physorg.com/news7499.html
>
> The metal powered car! Hydrogen and steam from reacting magnesium
> or aluminum with water. Wooo Hooo!!! ... Maybe.
>
> WELL REGARDLESS; AMERICA NEEDS TO F'ING PICK UP THE PACE..!
This ine is from Israel, the Weismann instutute, I think.
Here in America, this sort of thing is left to the ignorant
savages... excuse me, the mad scientists to create.
Business works. Business has things which already work well enough
to make a darned good profit on. So why risk new stuff like metal
fuel???
Only the crazies like us mad scientists, too enamored with new
ideas to consider all the risks involved, do thinkgs liike this.
They tried to have Henry Ford locked up for being insane after he
started his autyomobile factory. Edison was considered too addle
brained to teach in school.
As mad scientists, it is our respeonsibility to ourselves,
nevermind humanity, to explore the limits of technology.
And if we find something we can make a buck on while solving some
of humanity's problems, WHY NOT!!!
> I presume that back yard solar concentrators will eventually be
> invented to refine the metal oxides, so the "gas" stations will
> eventually end up somewhat less common than now.
Time for some of us to think about that one! If we can show the
other end of it, we might get this one going!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 15:36:47 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 15:36:59 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HELMHOLTZ WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20051026223648.36167.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
HELMHOLTZ WEBLINKS:
Wikipedia; Hermann von Helmholtz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_von_Helmholtz
Helmholtz coils manufactured for sale; Walker Scientific:
http://www.walkerldjscientific.com/Products/Product_Lines/Helmholtz/helmholtz.html
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Oct 26 19:29:32 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Wed Oct 26 19:29:49 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] mad
Message-ID: <002301c5da9e$44ddc640$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Can we pull the moon to Earth?
Theoretically, if we send enough electrons to the moon, we can pull the moon
to Earth. This is, maybe a realistic solution for our over populated energy
hungry near future.
http://shoutthemoon.com/
From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Oct 26 21:44:25 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Oct 26 21:44:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] mad
In-Reply-To: <002301c5da9e$44ddc640$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Oct
26, 2005 10:29:32 PM
Message-ID: <20051027044425.50062.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> Can we pull the moon to Earth?=20
> Theoretically, if we send enough electrons to the moon, we can pull the =
> moon
> to Earth. This is, maybe a realistic solution for our over populated =
> energy hungry near future.=20
This is indeed an interesting question!
Since photo-disassociation occurs in the upper atmostphere due to
solar photons, one might suspect that the earth is slowly losing
electrons. (As is the moon.)
What does this mean with respect to the life of the earth? Of our
ability to use electricity?
And since electrical charge does affect the half life of various
radioactive species, what does this do to the little bit about
radiocarbon and radio potassium dating???
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 21:54:18 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 21:54:27 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] mad
In-Reply-To: <002301c5da9e$44ddc640$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051027045418.53034.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
THAT IS MAD..!
BUT A VERY COOL CONCEPT
REGARDLESS..!
I'M READY TO MOVE TO THE
MOON; OR TO AT LEAST GO
INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT WITH
IN MY OWN CUSTOM BUILT
MICROSHIP, BECAUSE I AM
SICK OF THIS PLANET..!
CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Can we pull the moon to Earth?
Theoretically, if we send enough electrons to the moon, we can pull the moon
to Earth. This is, maybe a realistic solution for our over populated energy
hungry near future.
http://shoutthemoon.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 21:59:56 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Oct 26 22:00:01 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] mad
Message-ID: <20051027045956.12740.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
THAT IS MAD..!
BUT A VERY COOL CONCEPT
REGARDLESS..!
I'M READY TO MOVE TO THE
MOON; OR TO AT LEAST GO
INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT IN
MY OWN CUSTOM BUILT
MICROSHIP, BECAUSE I AM
SICK OF THIS PLANET..!
CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
Can we pull the moon to Earth?
Theoretically, if we send enough electrons to the moon, we can pull the moon
to Earth. This is, maybe a realistic solution for our over populated energy
hungry near future.
http://shoutthemoon.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 06:58:06 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 06:58:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
Message-ID: <20051027135807.11074.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
MORAL REVIVAL..!
2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC,
COOPERATIVE MASS SCALE
PRODUCTION EFFORT, OF LONG
LONG OVERDUE, SUPPRESSED
ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE
INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL
POWER GENERATING
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES..!
3. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 27 11:30:25 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 27 11:30:30 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051027135807.11074.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 27, 2005 06:58:06 AM
Message-ID: <20051027183025.84053.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> MORAL REVIVAL..!
Drastication of everything produces confusion. Confusion causes
people to delay things, like purchases. Delays in purchases cause
recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
> 2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC,
> COOPERATIVE MASS SCALE
> PRODUCTION EFFORT, OF LONG
> LONG OVERDUE, SUPPRESSED
> ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE
> INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL
> POWER GENERATING
> ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
> TECHNOLOGIES..!
>
Many would buy this in a flash if it were cheaper than current
power company distribution sources. Unfortunately, pay-back on solar is
6 to 12 years, longer than the average person stays in a home.
Grid power is a rather good deal. $20 down and maybe $100 a month.
I burn more than that with my generator, even with 240 watts of solar
for 4 - 6 hours during winter.
> 3. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
Modern medicine, even though it thoroughly screws over some portion
of the populace, does seem to do rather well with acute ailments. After
all, we are living longer and longer.
Part of the art of diagnosis, which I learned at my father's
workbench while acting as a sounding board during his repair sessions,
is to determine what, exactly is wrong before you go changing things.
His methodology was simple:
1. Determine what, exactly, is wrong based on symptomology.
2. Prove the diagnosis experimentally. That may involve tracing
signal or power back to sources, etc. Test the parts, DO NOT replace
anything yet!
3. Repair or replace the specific failing part or system.
If #3 does not fix it, put the original back, and go back to step
1.
Invariably, using this methodology he would fix things that had
been at some repair shop for months, in a matter of hours! Often, in
less than ONE HOUR!
What does that have to do with your drastications? Everything!
You have not done the first step of diagnosis, and you are already
wanting to change everything like a junior grade auto repairman who
changes part after part after part, billing the client for a whole bunch
of unnecessary parts while not solving the real problem.
America is already one of the most moral countries on the face of
this earth. Making it even more moral would probably harm it.
That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
of all the gas station and truck operators that suddenly become
unemployed, long before we have this new energy revolution in place.
The problem is that we don't HAVE that new energy technology or
source YET! Solar cell production is climbing, industry is just
beginning to look at methane clathrates and hydrogen.
Gradual change is what is needed. Less gradual than slow.... but
slow enough for the system to adapt without breaking. Anything which
causes major doubts in investors across the market will have adverse
negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what Katrina did
across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the stock market.
Insurance has to pay off, so they sell stock, lowering the stock market.
EVERYONE gets hit.
Same for health care. Alternative medicine is rising... but is full
of incompetents and charlatans! Simply increasing magnesium, vitamin C,
and Zinc would cause major health improvements over the next ten years.
It's already happening.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 16:15:48 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 16:15:54 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT TO DO....
Message-ID: <20051027231549.68396.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT TO DO WITH MY FREE TIME THAT I
HAVE, UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, AND
UNDER AN OVERLY EXPENSIVE
EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM THAT DOES NOT
TEACH THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LEARN
AND TO KNOW???
I'M SICK OF FOREVER GO NOWHERE
INDUSTRIAL SLUM ALSUMA ONION UNION
DICTATROSHIT TULSA - OVERZONATION
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, PROGRESS
IS FOR THE MOST PART, A FOREVER NO
GO, AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY UNDER
THE ENDLESS STUPIDITY INSANITY IN
THIS SHITTY OF TULSA, UNDER TULSA
TIME.
THE EVER SPINNING AROUND IN CIRCLES,
EVER GOING NOWHERE INSANITY; TRAPPED
IN A TIME LOOP: TULSA TIME.
ECONOMIC SLAVERY ='S DRUG ADDICTION..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Oct 27 16:34:25 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 27 16:34:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT TO DO....
In-Reply-To: <20051027231549.68396.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 27, 2005 04:15:48 PM
Message-ID: <20051027233425.40891.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHAT TO DO WITH MY FREE TIME THAT I
> HAVE, UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, AND
Interesting question.
My first question is why you see things as black and white, with a
bias toward the darker. It's clearly a health issue, more physiological
than psychological; but we've mentioned a few things that can help you
fight it -- the photography, maybe some niacin, etc.
> UNDER AN OVERLY EXPENSIVE
> EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LEARN
> AND TO KNOW???
For that, experimentation has always been the best teacher. Time
and time again, I run across bright guys in the investment or other
fields who have blown a few toes off on their first few experimental
investments, then learned enough to keep going with a mild profit.
But investment is not a high profit field. It's percentages slowly
doubling your cash once over ten or twenty years time.
And things like that take a lot more faith in America and gradations
of perception than you seem to have available at this time.
Your heart is in the right place, you are facing the right
direction... but you need to get your hardware working a little better
or you'll stall and roll down hill sideways, suffering the usual body
damage a car does when it does the same thing.
So I'd concentrate my research on health issues first. Once the
brain is humming well, the rest is easy. Or relatively easy, just a few
toes missing, a little blood, some anxiety; but nothing like what you
appear to be facing now.
> I'M SICK OF FOREVER GO NOWHERE
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM ALSUMA ONION UNION
> DICTATROSHIT TULSA - OVERZONATION
> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, PROGRESS
> IS FOR THE MOST PART, A FOREVER NO
> GO, AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY UNDER
> THE ENDLESS STUPIDITY INSANITY IN
> THIS SHITTY OF TULSA, UNDER TULSA
> TIME.
You see, all those things are not what most people see because
they... they just see more ways of getting somewhere than you do. It's
their level of relaxation.
Earlier, you mentioned pyroluria. Have you tried taking the things
recommended for that?
> THE EVER SPINNING AROUND IN CIRCLES,
> EVER GOING NOWHERE INSANITY; TRAPPED
> IN A TIME LOOP: TULSA TIME.
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY ='S DRUG ADDICTION..!
Look at it as economic traction, not slaverey. It's only slavery
when you can't get your engines running. When your brain engine is
running, it becomes economic traction.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 17:01:42 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 17:01:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051027183025.84053.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051028000142.21503.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> 1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> MORAL REVIVAL..!
Drastication of everything produces confusion.
SHIT; EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING CONFUSED AS ALL HELL..!
DID YOU READ THE LYRICS OF THE GENESIS SONG THAT I POSTED
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON? - LYRICS TO THEIR SONG: LAND OF
CONFUSION..!
Confusion causes people to delay things, like purchases.
MAYBE THAT IS REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUTH INCLUDED,
ARE SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE GODDAMNED SHIT IN THE POLITICAL
SCENE IN THIS MODERN AMERICA: AMERIKA..!
Delays in purchases cause recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
FUCK CHINA..!
> 2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC,
> COOPERATIVE MASS SCALE
> PRODUCTION EFFORT, OF LONG
> LONG OVERDUE, SUPPRESSED
> ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE
> INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL
> POWER GENERATING
> ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
> TECHNOLOGIES..!
>
Many would buy this in a flash if it were cheaper than current
power company distribution sources. Unfortunately, pay-back on solar is
6 to 12 years, longer than the average person stays in a home.
INEFFICIENT SOLAR POWER IS SO EXPENSIVE AND SO
INEFFICIENT.
THERE'S GOT TO BE BETTER..!
Grid power is a rather good deal. $20 down and maybe $100 a month.
I burn more than that with my generator, even with 240 watts of solar
for 4 - 6 hours during winter.
INEFFICIENT TECHNOLOGY..!
> 3. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
Modern medicine, even though it thoroughly screws over
("some portion of")
the populace, does seem to do rather well with acute ailments. After
all, we are living longer and longer.
YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT
WORKING..!
IT IF FAILING..!
Part of the art of diagnosis, which I learned at my father's
workbench while acting as a sounding board during his repair sessions,
is to determine what, exactly is wrong before you go changing things.
His methodology was simple:
1. Determine what, exactly, is wrong based on symptomology.
2. Prove the diagnosis experimentally. That may involve tracing
signal or power back to sources, etc. Test the parts, DO NOT replace
anything yet!
3. Repair or replace the specific failing part or system.
If # 3 does not fix it, put the original back, and go back to step
1.
OK; IF IT WERE ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES.
THE REAL WORLD DOES NOT ALWAYS ALLOW FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY..!
Invariably, using this methodology he would fix things that had
been at some repair shop for months, in a matter of hours! Often, in
less than ONE HOUR!
What does that have to do with your drastications? Everything!
You have not done the first step of diagnosis, and you are already
wanting to
change everything like a junior grade auto repairman who
changes part after part after part, billing the client for a whole bunch
of unnecessary parts while not solving the real problem.
SAME OLD GOD DAMNED SHIT THAT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD..!
BUT AMERICA HAS BECOME MUCH OF A CESSPOOL OF TECHNICAL
ANTI-DEVELOPMENTAL STAGNATION, AND A CESSPOOL OF
IMMORALITY..!
I SEE LIFE FROM A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE..!
AND CAN ALSO SEE LIFE A LITTLE, FROM THE LOWER CLASS
PERSPECTIVE AS WELL..!
America is already one of the most moral countries on the face of
this earth. Making it even more moral would probably harm it.
I DOUBT THAT.
That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
of all the gas station and truck operators that suddenly become
unemployed, long before we have this new energy revolution in place.
SAME OLD MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED SHIT THAT IS SAID
OVER AND OVER AGAIN..!
THIS COUNTRY IS TECHNICALLY DEVELOPMENTALLY STAGNANT..!
The problem is that we don't HAVE that new energy technology or
source YET!
YET.
THE WORD YET WAS USED WAY BACK IN THE FUCKING 70'S TOO..!
INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ARE NEVER GOING
TO BE A REALITY THEN..!
AMERICA IS A SAD SAD COUNTRY TO LIVE IN..!
Solar cell production is climbing, industry is just beginning to look at
methane clathrates and hydrogen.
YEAH WELL; NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO BETTER THE
SHITHOLE STATE OF THE POLLUTION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND
THE ECOLOGY.
THE SKIES ARE STILL BROWN; AND I STILL HAVE TO BREATHE THE
SHIT EXHAUST FROM CONVENTION SHIT AUTOMOBILES.
Gradual change is what is needed. Less gradual than slow....
LESS GRADUAL THAN SLOW IS TOO SLOW..!
but slow enough for the system to adapt without breaking.
THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BROKEN FROM WHERE I STAND AND FROM
WHAT I CAN SEE..!
Anything which causes major doubts in investors across the market will
have adverse negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what
Katrina did across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the
stock market.
WE NEED TO BECOME AN ANTI WEB..!
Insurance has to pay off, so they sell stock, lowering the
stock market. EVERYONE gets hit.
Same for health care.
SICKCARE IS A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION, TO A SYSTEM
THAT IS FAILING, AND THAT HAS FAILED..!
Alternative
'medicine'
is rising... but is full of incompetents and charlatans!
ALTERNATIVE 'MEDICINE' IS INDEED FULL OF INCOMPETENTS AND
CHARLATANS..!
THAT IS RIGHT.
Simply increasing magnesium, vitamin C, and Zinc would cause major
health improvements over the next ten years.
ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE NOW FOUND
OUT NOW; BALANCING pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
FROM LEMON JUICE.
It's already happening.
GOOD..!
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 27 17:28:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028000142.21503.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 27, 2005 05:01:42 PM
Message-ID: <20051028002808.62574.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > 1. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> > MORAL REVIVAL..!
>
> Drastication of everything produces confusion.
>
> SHIT; EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING CONFUSED AS ALL HELL..!
> DID YOU READ THE LYRICS OF THE GENESIS SONG THAT I POSTED
> YESTERDAY AFTERNOON? - LYRICS TO THEIR SONG: LAND OF
> CONFUSION..!
that's one reason I don't like that kind of music. Those are people
who don't care about the future.
> Confusion causes people to delay things, like purchases.
>
> MAYBE THAT IS REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUTH INCLUDED,
> ARE SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE GODDAMNED SHIT IN THE POLITICAL
> SCENE IN THIS MODERN AMERICA: AMERIKA..!
Most people are not that angry at politics.
> Delays in purchases cause recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
>
> FUCK CHINA..!
It's not China, it's American Homes, Cars, etc. It's Home Depot,
Lowe's, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
> > 2. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC,
> > COOPERATIVE MASS SCALE
> > PRODUCTION EFFORT, OF LONG
> > LONG OVERDUE, SUPPRESSED
> > ESOTERIC SMALL SCALE
> > INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL
> > POWER GENERATING
> Many would buy this in a flash if it were cheaper than current
> power company distribution sources. Unfortunately, pay-back on solar is
> 6 to 12 years, longer than the average person stays in a home.
>
>
> INEFFICIENT SOLAR POWER IS SO EXPENSIVE AND SO
> INEFFICIENT.
Yep, and I'm using it here!
> THERE'S GOT TO BE BETTER..!
Haven't seen it yet...
> > 3. AMERICA NEEDS DRASTIC
> > HEALTHCARE IMPROVEMENT..!
>
> Modern medicine, even though it thoroughly screws over
> ("some portion of")
> the populace, does seem to do rather well with acute ailments. After
> all, we are living longer and longer.
>
>
> YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT
> WORKING..!
> IT IF FAILING..!
Mixed.
> His methodology was simple:
>
> 1. Determine what, exactly, is wrong based on symptomology.
>
> 2. Prove the diagnosis experimentally. That may involve tracing
> signal or power back to sources, etc. Test the parts, DO NOT replace
> anything yet!
>
> 3. Repair or replace the specific failing part or system.
>
> If # 3 does not fix it, put the original back, and go back to step
> 1.
>
>
> OK; IF IT WERE ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES.
It usually is!
> THE REAL WORLD DOES NOT ALWAYS ALLOW FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY..!
You are in too much of a hurry to save time.
> BUT AMERICA HAS BECOME MUCH OF A CESSPOOL OF TECHNICAL
>
> ANTI-DEVELOPMENTAL STAGNATION, AND A CESSPOOL OF
> IMMORALITY..!
Not as far as I can tell. Seems to be getting better.
> I SEE LIFE FROM A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE..!
> AND CAN ALSO SEE LIFE A LITTLE, FROM THE LOWER CLASS
> PERSPECTIVE AS WELL..!
At the moment, I've got less income than you, Clyde. My income
goes up and down because I take larger risks.
> America is already one of the most moral countries on the face of
> this earth. Making it even more moral would probably harm it.
>
> I DOUBT THAT.
Just ask the people voting with their feet, trying to get into
America!
> That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
> energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
> would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
> of all the gas station and truck operators that suddenly become
> unemployed, long before we have this new energy revolution in place.
>
>
> SAME OLD MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED SHIT THAT IS SAID
> OVER AND OVER AGAIN..!
But it's true.
> THIS COUNTRY IS TECHNICALLY DEVELOPMENTALLY STAGNANT..!
Probably.
> The problem is that we don't HAVE that new energy technology or
> source YET!
>
> YET.
>
> THE WORD YET WAS USED WAY BACK IN THE FUCKING 70'S TOO..!
> INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ARE NEVER GOING
> TO BE A REALITY THEN..!
Far, far different world than it was in the 70's!
> AMERICA IS A SAD SAD COUNTRY TO LIVE IN..!
I love America. I'm not leaving. Are you?
> Solar cell production is climbing, industry is just beginning to look at
> methane clathrates and hydrogen.
>
>
> YEAH WELL; NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO BETTER THE
> SHITHOLE STATE OF THE POLLUTION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND
> THE ECOLOGY.
> THE SKIES ARE STILL BROWN; AND I STILL HAVE TO BREATHE THE
> SHIT EXHAUST FROM CONVENTION SHIT AUTOMOBILES.
I remember the 70's first hand, Clyde. It's a world of difference
for the better! In the 60's, I was doing research on air pollution,
using filters and such. By the late 70's, we had cleaner air. Today,
despite the fact that _I_ am badly affected by one aspect of that air
pollution, and my personal situation is made worse by it, I can see how
much better the air is than in the 90's!
> Gradual change is what is needed. Less gradual than slow....
>
> LESS GRADUAL THAN SLOW IS TOO SLOW..!
It's always slow. But it's faster than it use to be.
>
> but slow enough for the system to adapt without breaking.
>
> THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BROKEN FROM WHERE I STAND AND FROM
> WHAT I CAN SEE..!
Then you haven't seen broken. Nixon! Carter! BROKEN!
> Anything which causes major doubts in investors across the market will
> have adverse negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what
> Katrina did across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the
> stock market.
>
> WE NEED TO BECOME AN ANTI WEB..!
Not clear what you are saying. if we destroy the stock market, we
can not create any new companies, and the existing companies fall apart,
leaving ONLY Chinese crap.
> SICKCARE IS A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION, TO A SYSTEM
> THAT IS FAILING, AND THAT HAS FAILED..!
Not hardly. Far from optimal, but far from what it is in some other
countries.
> ALTERNATIVE 'MEDICINE' IS INDEED FULL OF INCOMPETENTS AND
> CHARLATANS..!
> THAT IS RIGHT.
>
>
>
> Simply increasing magnesium, vitamin C, and Zinc would cause major
>
> health improvements over the next ten years.
> ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE NOW FOUND
>
> OUT NOW; BALANCING pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
>
> FROM LEMON JUICE.
Are you monitoring your pH??? Or just guessing?
>
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 17:27:43 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 17:28:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028000142.21503.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051028002743.49965.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Simply increasing magnesium, vitamin C, and Zinc would cause major
health improvements over the next ten years.
ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE FOUND OUT
NOW; BALANCING THE pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
FROM LEMON JUICE, HELPS TO PUT THE BODY MORE AT EASE.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 17:57:54 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 17:57:58 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028002808.62574.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051028005754.42068.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> SHIT; EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING CONFUSED AS ALL HELL..!
> DID YOU READ THE LYRICS OF THE GENESIS SONG THAT I POSTED
> YESTERDAY AFTERNOON? - LYRICS TO THEIR SONG: LAND OF
> CONFUSION..!
that's one reason I don't like that kind of music. Those are people
who don't care about the future.
BULLSHIT!
THAT IS EITHER A LIE, OR IS COMPLETELY WRONG!
PART OF THE LYRICS READ ABOUT MAKING THIS LAND A BETTER
PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND THAT IT IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR TO MAKE
THIS LAND A FAR FAR BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN..!
> Confusion causes people to delay things, like purchases.
>
> MAYBE THAT IS REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUTH INCLUDED,
> ARE SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE GODDAMNED SHIT IN THE POLITICAL
> SCENE IN THIS MODERN AMERICA: AMERIKA..!
Most people are not that angry at politics.
HORSESHIT!
> Delays in purchases cause recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
>
> FUCK CHINA..!
It's not China, it's American Homes, Cars, etc. It's Home Depot,
Lowe's, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
IT IS THOSE BUSINESSES WHO ARE SELLING AND USING CHINESE
TURD WORLD COUNTRY SHIT; MAINLY CRAPPY PARTS, COMPONENTS,
AND TOOLS, TO THE DUMBASS MASSES OF MEDIA BRAINWASHED
SHEEPLE!
> YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT
> WORKING..!
> IT IF FAILING..!
Mixed.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY: MIXED?
> THE REAL WORLD DOES NOT ALWAYS ALLOW FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY..!
You are in too much of a hurry to save time.
AS IN THAT SONG BY THE COUNTRY BAND ALABAMA: I'M IN A
HURRY AND DON'T KNOW WHY.
> That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
> energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
> would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
> of all the gas station and truck operators that suddenly become
> unemployed, long before we have this new energy revolution in place.
>
>
> SAME OLD MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED SHIT THAT IS SAID
> OVER AND OVER AGAIN..!
But it's true.
WELL YES; IT IS TRUE.
IT IS MY WILL THOUGH TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT FROM THE
STATUS CHO SHYTSTEM, WITH GOOD, AND AMERICAN MADE,
QUALITY EQUIPMENT..!
> THIS COUNTRY IS TECHNICALLY DEVELOPMENTALLY STAGNANT..!
Probably.
YES..!
> The problem is that we don't HAVE that new energy technology or
> source YET!
>
> YET.
>
> THE WORD YET WAS USED WAY BACK IN THE FUCKING 70'S TOO..!
> INDEPENDENT ELECTRICAL ENERGY SYSTEMS ARE NEVER GOING
> TO BE A REALITY THEN..!
Far, far different world than it was in the 70's!
> AMERICA IS A SAD SAD COUNTRY TO LIVE IN..!
I love America. I'm not leaving. Are you?
I'D LEAVE AMERICA IF I COULD, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER COUNTRIES
TO MOVE TO THAT WOULD BE WORTH LIVING IN; AMERICA IS BAD
ENOUGH.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS DISEASE PLANET FOREVER, IN PERFECT
PEACE, EITHER IN A SMALL SCALE MICRO SPACESHIP (LAUNCHING
MYSELF INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT), AND / OR JUST OVERDOSE ON ALL
OF THE RIGHT DRUGS, AND PUT MYSELF TO PERMANENT PEACEFUL
SLEEP, FOREVER..!
> LESS GRADUAL THAN SLOW IS TOO SLOW..!
It's always slow. But it's faster than it use to be.
>
> but slow enough for the system to adapt without breaking.
>
> THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BROKEN FROM WHERE I STAND AND FROM
> WHAT I CAN SEE..!
Then you haven't seen broken. Nixon! Carter! BROKEN!
WELL I HOPE AMERICA SURVIVES THE REIN OF THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS..!
> Anything which causes major doubts in investors across the market will
> have adverse negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what
> Katrina did across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the
> stock market.
>
> WE NEED TO BECOME AN ANTI WEB..!
Not clear what you are saying.
ANTI-WEB : INDEPENDENCE FROM CENTRALIZATION KOMMUNIZATION..!
if we destroy the stock market, we can not create any new companies, and
the existing companies fall apart, leaving ONLY Chinese crap.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT CHINESE CRAP OVERKILL..!
I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE..!
FUCK CHINA..!
> SICKCARE IS A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION, TO A SYSTEM
> THAT IS FAILING, AND THAT HAS FAILED..!
Not hardly. Far from optimal, but far from what it is in some other
countries.
SICKCARE VS. HEALTHCARE VS. HEALTHSCARE..!
> ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE NOW FOUND
>
> OUT NOW; BALANCING pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
>
> FROM LEMON JUICE.
Are you monitoring your pH??? Or just guessing?
I'M FORCED TO HAVE TO GUESS FOR NOW.
IT'S ALL THAT I CAN DO, WITH AN ANTI-INCOME, HAVING
INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO LIVE HAPPY AND FREE;
LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Oct 27 18:25:22 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028005754.42068.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 27, 2005 05:57:54 PM
Message-ID: <20051028012518.85633.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > SHIT; EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING CONFUSED AS ALL HELL..!
> > DID YOU READ THE LYRICS OF THE GENESIS SONG THAT I POSTED
> > YESTERDAY AFTERNOON? - LYRICS TO THEIR SONG: LAND OF
> > CONFUSION..!
>
> that's one reason I don't like that kind of music. Those are people
> who don't care about the future.
>
>
> BULLSHIT!
>
> THAT IS EITHER A LIE, OR IS COMPLETELY WRONG!
> PART OF THE LYRICS READ ABOUT MAKING THIS LAND A BETTER
> PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND THAT IT IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR TO MAKE
> THIS LAND A FAR FAR BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN..!
If you believe the land is confused, you won't look at all the
sense that is in this land. The country makes a heck of a lot more
sense than a lot of other places I read about. And we, the people, have
more information available to us today than ever before. Not that all
of us use it... but more do than before. Which is the key.
> > MAYBE THAT IS REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUTH INCLUDED,
> > ARE SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE GODDAMNED SHIT IN THE POLITICAL
> > SCENE IN THIS MODERN AMERICA: AMERIKA..!
>
> Most people are not that angry at politics.
>
>
> HORSESHIT!
They may not be that happy, but they are not that angry. Go ask
enough people in the street, using a reasonable questionnaire, and you'll
see. (Are you satisfied with politics? Pick one: extremely
satisfied, satisfied, so-so, dis-satisfied, very dis-satisfied,
Angry!)
You might also ask who their favorite president was: Eisenhower,
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush sr, Clinton, Bush W.
Get a clipboard, write up those two questions, and start asking
people on the street. You'll see. Yes, some dissatisfaction, but
little anger. Of course, if you are in one side of town with a lot of
apartment complexes, you'll get one profile; and in a richer part of
town, someplace were there are a lot of home owners, you might get more
satisfaction. But either way, I doubt you'll get much anger.
(And yes, add similar about the confusion of this world. Does this
world make sense to you: Very much so, rather well, sort of, not much
sense, totally confused!)
Do get a few hundred replies... not a few dozen.
> > Delays in purchases cause recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
> >
> > FUCK CHINA..!
>
> It's not China, it's American Homes, Cars, etc. It's Home Depot,
> Lowe's, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
>
>
> IT IS THOSE BUSINESSES WHO ARE SELLING AND USING CHINESE
> TURD WORLD COUNTRY SHIT; MAINLY CRAPPY PARTS, COMPONENTS,
> AND TOOLS, TO THE DUMBASS MASSES OF MEDIA BRAINWASHED
> SHEEPLE!
So don't buy it! I often don't! The world is full of choices.
Make them wisely.
> > YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT
> > WORKING..!
> > IT IF FAILING..!
>
> Mixed.
>
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY: MIXED?
Win a few, lose a few; but by and large, the average man is winning
more than losing.
> > THE REAL WORLD DOES NOT ALWAYS ALLOW FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY..!
>
> You are in too much of a hurry to save time.
>
> AS IN THAT SONG BY THE COUNTRY BAND ALABAMA: I'M IN A
> HURRY AND DON'T KNOW WHY.
So slow down. Think before you do, observe before you think.
> > That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
> > energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
> > would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
> WELL YES; IT IS TRUE.
>
> IT IS MY WILL THOUGH TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT FROM THE
> STATUS CHO SHYTSTEM, WITH GOOD, AND AMERICAN MADE,
> QUALITY EQUIPMENT..!
You don't want to be independent. The system is better than what
we can build alone.
Do you want to spend all your time trying to fix your generators,
like I did today and probably tomorrow, or doing things which make the
future a better place???
> > AMERICA IS A SAD SAD COUNTRY TO LIVE IN..!
>
> I love America. I'm not leaving. Are you?
>
>
> I'D LEAVE AMERICA IF I COULD, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER COUNTRIES
> TO MOVE TO THAT WOULD BE WORTH LIVING IN; AMERICA IS BAD
> ENOUGH.
I think it's a great place!
> I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS DISEASE PLANET FOREVER, IN PERFECT
> PEACE, EITHER IN A SMALL SCALE MICRO SPACESHIP (LAUNCHING
> MYSELF INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT), AND / OR JUST OVERDOSE ON ALL
> OF THE RIGHT DRUGS, AND PUT MYSELF TO PERMANENT PEACEFUL
> SLEEP, FOREVER..!
Peace is death. It rots.
The chaos of the world inspires.
> > THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BROKEN FROM WHERE I STAND AND FROM
> > WHAT I CAN SEE..!
>
> Then you haven't seen broken. Nixon! Carter! BROKEN!
>
> WELL I HOPE AMERICA SURVIVES THE REIN OF THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS..!
It will.
It should be fun when Ms Clinton gets caught having a lesbian affair
in the oval office. Now that will scandalize America! Some say she was
in Reno. Others say Reno was in her. Who knowz! (The Shadow Knows...)
> > Anything which causes major doubts in investors across the market will
> > have adverse negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what
> > Katrina did across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the
> > stock market.
> >
> > WE NEED TO BECOME AN ANTI WEB..!
>
> Not clear what you are saying.
>
> ANTI-WEB : INDEPENDENCE FROM CENTRALIZATION KOMMUNIZATION..!
So, go talk to your locally elected representatives.
> > ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE NOW FOUND
> > OUT NOW; BALANCING pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
> > FROM LEMON JUICE.
>
> Are you monitoring your pH??? Or just guessing?
>
>
> I'M FORCED TO HAVE TO GUESS FOR NOW.
Then you don't know.
And if you guess wrong, you'll be harmed. And it's no one's fault
but you.
Actually, I rather suspect that lemon juice is acidic, since you
can make a battery jamming the right metals into it.
Which goes to show you how many of the alternative medicine idiots
don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 19:12:52 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Thu Oct 27 19:13:02 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT TO DO....
In-Reply-To: <20051027231549.68396.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051028021252.79491.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
May I suggest a few things to help?
1.) as strange as it sounds... try to write up a plan
of where you want to be in the future:
a.) describe as best you can, where you want to be.
This description should be:
Specific
Measurable
Appropriate
Realistic
Timed
it should be stated in positive terms.
2.) If you are stuck in a position that pays the rent,
but doesn't feed your soul, consider a few of the
following:
meditation/religion
jazz music
role playing game groups (one of my favorites is the
game called "cyberpunk."
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> WHAT TO DO WITH MY FREE TIME THAT I
> HAVE, UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, AND
> UNDER AN OVERLY EXPENSIVE
> EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LEARN
> AND TO KNOW???
> I'M SICK OF FOREVER GO NOWHERE
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM ALSUMA ONION UNION
> DICTATROSHIT TULSA - OVERZONATION
> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, PROGRESS
> IS FOR THE MOST PART, A FOREVER NO
> GO, AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY UNDER
> THE ENDLESS STUPIDITY INSANITY IN
> THIS SHITTY OF TULSA, UNDER TULSA
> TIME.
> THE EVER SPINNING AROUND IN CIRCLES,
> EVER GOING NOWHERE INSANITY; TRAPPED
> IN A TIME LOOP: TULSA TIME.
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY ='S DRUG ADDICTION..!
>
> CLYDE
>
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 21:16:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Oct 27 21:16:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT TO DO....
In-Reply-To: <20051028021252.79491.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051028041627.22061.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
BOB,
I FOUND TWO WIKIPEDIA LINKS, REGARDING THE
CYBERPUNK TOPIC.
THE FIRST LINK; MAX HEADROOM, WAS MY FAVORITE
SCIENCE FICTION TELEVISION PRODUCTION, EVER
PRODUCED.
IT MENTIONS THAT THE SERIES IS DUE FOR RELEASE
ON D.V.D.
IF THAT HOLDS TRUE; I'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST
PEOPLE IN LINE TO PURCHASE IT, IF AND WHEN IT
IS RELEASED..!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
May I suggest a few things to help?
YES..!
1.) as strange as it sounds... try to write up a plan
of where you want to be in the future:
a.) describe as best you can, where you want to be.
This description should be:
Specific
Measurable
Appropriate
Realistic
Timed
it should be stated in positive terms.
2.) If you are stuck in a position that pays the rent,
but doesn't feed your soul, consider a few of the
following:
YES..!
meditation/religion
jazz music
role playing game groups (one of my favorites is the
game called "cyberpunk."
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> WHAT TO DO WITH MY FREE TIME THAT I
> HAVE, UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, AND
> UNDER AN OVERLY EXPENSIVE
> EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LEARN
> AND TO KNOW???
> I'M SICK OF FOREVER GO NOWHERE
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM ALSUMA ONION UNION
> DICTATROSHIT TULSA - OVERZONATION
> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, PROGRESS
> IS FOR THE MOST PART, A FOREVER NO
> GO, AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY UNDER
> THE ENDLESS STUPIDITY INSANITY IN
> THIS SHITTY OF TULSA, UNDER TULSA
> TIME.
> THE EVER SPINNING AROUND IN CIRCLES,
> EVER GOING NOWHERE INSANITY; TRAPPED
> IN A TIME LOOP: TULSA TIME.
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY ='S DRUG ADDICTION..!
>
> CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 06:03:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 06:03:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT TO DO....
In-Reply-To: <20051027233425.40891.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051028130310.52221.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> WHAT TO DO WITH MY FREE TIME THAT I
> HAVE, UNDER ECONOMIC SLAVERY, AND
Interesting question.
My first question is why you see things as black and white, with a
bias toward the darker. It's clearly a health issue, more physiological
than psychological;
IT IS THE COMBINATION OF BOTH; EQUALLY..!
but we've mentioned a few things that can help you
fight it -- the photography, maybe some niacin, etc.
> UNDER AN OVERLY EXPENSIVE
> EDUCATIONAL SHYTSTEM THAT DOES NOT
> TEACH THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LEARN
> AND TO KNOW???
For that, experimentation has always been the best teacher.
YES; IF RESOURCES WERE NOT SO FOREVER FINITE IN THIS SHITHOLE
SLUM OF TULSA, AND IN THIS SHITHOLE SLUM OF OKLAHOMA..!
Time and time again, I run across bright guys in the investment or other
fields who have blown a few toes off on their first few experimental
investments, then learned enough to keep going with a mild profit.
But investment is not a high profit field. It's percentages slowly
doubling your cash once over ten or twenty years time.
And things like that take a lot more faith in America
I HAVE ZERO FAITH REMAINING IN THIS MEDIA BRAINFUCKED NATION..!
and gradations of perception than you seem to have available at this time.
Your heart is in the right place, you are facing the right
direction... but you need to get your hardware working a little better
or you'll stall and roll down hill sideways, suffering the usual body
damage a car does when it does the same thing.
So I'd concentrate my research on health issues first.
IF MONEY ALLOWED IT TO BE DONE TO ITS FULLEST.
Once the brain is humming well, the rest is easy. Or relatively easy, just
a few toes missing, a little blood, some anxiety; but nothing like what you
appear to be facing now.
> I'M SICK OF FOREVER GO NOWHERE
> INDUSTRIAL SLUM ALSUMA ONION UNION
> DICTATORSHIT TULSA - OVERZONATION -
> OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION,
> PROGRESS IS FOR THE MOST PART, A
> FOREVER NO GO, AND IT REMAINS THAT
> WAY UNDER THE ENDLESS STUPIDITY
> INSANITY SHITTY OF TULSA - UNDER
> TULSA TIME.
You see, all those things are not what most people see because
they... they just see more ways of getting somewhere than you do. It's
their level of relaxation.
I COULD RELAX, WITH THE RIGHT RESOURCES..!
Earlier, you mentioned pyroluria. Have you tried taking the things
recommended for that?
I HAD THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN TEST ME FOR PORPHYRIA AND
PYROLURIA, BUT THE RESULTS CAME BACK NEGATIVE; NEGATIVE AS
IN NOT THE CASE FOT ME.
BUT THE MAINSTREAM DOCTORS ARE NO LONGER ENTIRELY HONEST
AS I HAVE LEARNED.... DUE THEIR HANDCUFFING AND SCUFFING BY
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND BY THE PHARMA-CRAP-OGY
KOMMERCIALISM PILL PUSHER INDUSTRIAL SHITPLEXXX..!
> THE EVER SPINNING AROUND IN CIRCLES,
> EVER GOING NOWHERE INSANITY; TRAPPED
> IN A TIME LOOP: TULSA TIME.
> ECONOMIC SLAVERY ='S DRUG ADDICTION..!
Look at it as economic traction, not slaverey. It's only slavery
when you can't get your engines running. When your brain engine is
running, it becomes economic traction.
OK.
BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP MAKE THINGS ANY BETTER..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 13:54:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 13:54:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM SICK OF AMERIKA!
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Message-ID: <20051028205400.14034.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM SICK OF AMERIKA!
AND PLANET EARTH TOO!
I WANT TO LEAVE THIS
EVERLASTING NEVERENDING
NONSENSE, FOREVER GO
NOWHERE PLANET OF MEDIA
BRAINWASHED SHEEPLE, AND
MEDIA SOLD CRAP, ETC...
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA OKLAHOMA, "U.S.A"
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 14:38:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 14:38:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028012518.85633.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051028213802.79492.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > SHIT; EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING CONFUSED AS ALL HELL..!
> > DID YOU READ THE LYRICS OF THE GENESIS SONG THAT I POSTED
> > YESTERDAY AFTERNOON? - LYRICS TO THEIR SONG: LAND OF
> > CONFUSION..!
>
> that's one reason I don't like that kind of music. Those are people
> who don't care about the future.
>
>
> BULLSHIT!
>
> THAT IS EITHER A LIE, OR IS COMPLETELY WRONG!
> PART OF THE LYRICS READ ABOUT MAKING THIS LAND A BETTER
> PLACE TO LIVE IN, AND THAT IT IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR TO MAKE
> THIS LAND A FAR FAR BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN..!
If you believe the land is confused, you won't look at all the
sense that is in this land.
YEAH; THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF SENSE TOO.
BUT THE SENSE IS CONFUSED WITH NONSENSE
FOR SO MANY PEOPLE; YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE..!
The country makes a heck of a lot more sense than a lot of other places
I read about.
THAT IS TRUE.
BUT THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED UP..!
And we, the people, have more information available to us
today than ever before.
YES WE HAVE VERY MUCH INFORMATION AVAILABLE; YET SO
MUCH IS SUPPRESSED BY THE UNFAIRNESS OF 'THE
INFRASTRUCTURES'; (THE INTRAFUCKTURES)..!
Not that all of us use it... but more do than before. Which is the key.
> > MAYBE THAT IS REASON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUTH INCLUDED,
> > ARE SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE GODDAMNED SHIT IN THE POLITICAL
> > SCENE IN THIS MODERN AMERICA: AMERIKA..!
>
> Most people are not that angry at politics.
>
>
> HORSESHIT!
They may not be that happy, but they are not that angry.
IV'E SEEN THE YOUTH UNDERGROUND WHO ARE AS ANGRY AS HELL..!
Go ask enough people in the street, using a reasonable questionnaire,
and you'll see. (Are you satisfied with politics? Pick one: extremely
satisfied, satisfied, so-so, dis-satisfied, very dis-satisfied,
Angry!)
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, AND SINCE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION
SYSTEM IS A LARGE SCALE FAILURE, MUCH OF TODAY'S STUDENTS
DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HISTORY - CONVENTIONAL HISTORY,
TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT EISENHOWER, JOHNSON, NIXON, FORD,
CARTER, REAGAN, BUSH SR., CLINTON, AND BUSH JR.
You might also ask who their favorite president was: Eisenhower,
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush sr, Clinton, Bush W.
I THOUGHT THAT LINCOLN WAS MY FAVORITE PRES.
IT MAY NOW BE THOMAS JEFFERSON, INSTEAD..!
Get a clipboard, write up those two questions, and start asking
people on the street. You'll see. Yes, some dissatisfaction, but
little anger. Of course, if you are in one side of town with a lot of
apartment complexes, you'll get one profile; and in a richer part of
town, someplace were there are a lot of home owners, you might get more
satisfaction. But either way, I doubt you'll get much anger.
(And yes, add similar about the confusion of this world. Does this
world make sense to you: Very much so, rather well, sort of, not much
sense, totally confused!)
Do get a few hundred replies... not a few dozen.
IF POSSIBLE..!
> > Delays in purchases cause recessions. (Consumer Confidence)
> >
> > FUCK CHINA..!
>
> It's not China, it's American Homes, Cars, etc. It's Home Depot,
> Lowe's, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
>
>
> IT IS THOSE BUSINESSES WHO ARE SELLING AND USING CHINESE
> TURD WORLD COUNTRY SHIT; MAINLY CRAPPY PARTS, COMPONENTS,
> AND TOOLS, TO THE DUMBASS MASSES OF MEDIA BRAINWASHED
> SHEEPLE!
So don't buy it! I often don't! The world is full of choices. Make them wisely.
> > YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT
> > WORKING..!
> > IT IF FAILING..!
>
> Mixed.
>
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY: MIXED?
Win a few, lose a few; but by and large, the average man is winning
more than losing.
THE ESTABLISHMENT IS SICKCARE; AND NOT HEALTHCARE; FOR THE MOST
PART..!
> > THE REAL WORLD DOES NOT ALWAYS ALLOW FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY..!
>
> You are in too much of a hurry to save time.
>
> AS IN THAT SONG BY THE COUNTRY BAND ALABAMA: I'M IN A
> HURRY AND DON'T KNOW WHY.
So slow down. Think before you do, observe before you think.
SLOW DOWN IS MANY TIMES EASIER SAID THAN DONE..!
> > That America needs cheaper energy is obvious. But showing the
> > energy corporations of America that they are about to become obsolete
> > would panic them, causing them and the stock market to collapse. Think
> WELL YES; IT IS TRUE.
>
> IT IS MY WILL THOUGH TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT FROM THE
> STATUS CHO SHYTSTEM, WITH GOOD, AND AMERICAN MADE,
> QUALITY EQUIPMENT..!
You don't want to be independent.
OH DAMN WELL YES I DO..!
The system is better than what we can build alone.
NONSENSE..!
Do you want to spend all your time trying to fix your generators,
like I did today and probably tomorrow,
WITH REDUNDANCY; GENERATOR REPAIR ISN'T A LARGE SCALE
PROBLEM..!
or doing things which make the future a better place???
YES..!
DOING THINGS WHICH MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE..!
THAT MEANS INDEPENDENCE AND EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE:
*EQUALLY..!*
> > AMERICA IS A SAD SAD COUNTRY TO LIVE IN..!
>
> I love America. I'm not leaving. Are you?
>
>
> I'D LEAVE AMERICA IF I COULD, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER COUNTRIES
> TO MOVE TO THAT WOULD BE WORTH LIVING IN; AMERICA IS BAD
> ENOUGH.
I think it's a great place!
AMERIKA IS A FUCKED UP PLACE..!
THIS KOMMUNIST PERVERT NEOLIBERAL AND FASCIST NAZI THEOCRAZY
NEOCONSERVATIVE MEDIA POOPAGANDA WARZONE..!
> I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS DISEASE PLANET FOREVER, IN PERFECT
> PEACE, EITHER IN A SMALL SCALE MICRO SPACESHIP (LAUNCHING
> MYSELF INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT), AND / OR JUST OVERDOSE ON ALL
> OF THE RIGHT DRUGS, AND PUT MYSELF TO PERMANENT PEACEFUL
> SLEEP, FOREVER..!
Peace is death. It rots.
NOT NECESSARILY..!
The chaos of the world inspires.
REALLY???
NOT NECESSARILY.
PEACE AND ORDER ARE GOOD THINGS TO HAVE FOR EVERYONE:
EQUALLY..!
> > THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY BROKEN FROM WHERE I STAND AND FROM
> > WHAT I CAN SEE..!
>
> Then you haven't seen broken. Nixon! Carter! BROKEN!
>
> WELL I HOPE AMERICA SURVIVES THE REIN OF THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS..!
It will.
It should be fun when Ms. Clinton gets caught having a lesbian affair
in the oval office. Now that will scandalize America! Some say she was
in Reno. Others say Reno was in her. Who knowz! (The Shadow Knows...)
DO YOU THINK THAT BILLARY WILL GET OFFICE???
> > Anything which causes major doubts in investors across the market will
> > have adverse negative consequences for ALL people. Just look at what
> > Katrina did across the whole USA -- we are a web tied together by the
> > stock market.
> >
> > WE NEED TO BECOME AN ANTI WEB..!
>
> Not clear what you are saying.
>
> ANTI-WEB : INDEPENDENCE FROM CENTRALIZATION KOMMUNIZATION..!
So, go talk to your locally elected representatives.
THEY DO NOT LISTEN, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT CARE..!
> > ALSO pH BALANCE IS IMPORTANT TOO, AS I HAVE NOW FOUND
> > OUT NOW; BALANCING pH OF DRINKING WATER WITH ALKALINITY
> > FROM LEMON JUICE.
>
> Are you monitoring your pH??? Or just guessing?
>
>
> I'M FORCED TO HAVE TO GUESS FOR NOW.
Then you don't know.
I DON'T KNOW..!
And if you guess wrong, you'll be harmed. And it's no one's fault
but you.
YES..!
Actually, I rather suspect that lemon juice is acidic, since you
can make a battery jamming the right metals into it.
YES WELL; ACIDIC AND ALKALINE IN A MIXTURE.
I NEED STRAIGHT ALKALINE..!
Which goes to show you how many of the alternative medicine idiots
don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.
RIGHT..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 14:52:35 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 14:52:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028213802.79492.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051028215235.95626.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > YES; WE ARE LIVING LONGER, BUT THE
> > SICKCARE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING..!
> > IT IS FAILING..!
>
> Which goes to show you how many of the alternative medicine
> idiots don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.
MAINSTREAM 'MEDICINE' IDIOT DOCTORS ARE FUCKING
AMERICA UP JUST AS EQUALLY..!!
JUST AS EQUALLY..!!
THE MAINSTREAM MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT NEEDS TO
BLASTED..!!
I'M NOT A TERRORIST; BUT IF I WAS; I WOULD CERTAINLY
DO SOMETHING TO COUNTERACT THE MEDIKAL
EH-FUCKLISHMENT..!!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 14:55:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: AMERICA NEEDS....
Message-ID: <20051028215541.8523.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
THE MAINSTREAM MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT NEEDS TO
BE BLASTED..!!
I'M NOT A TERRORIST; BUT IF I WAS; I WOULD CERTAINLY
DO SOMETHING TO COUNTERACT THE MEDIKAL
EH-FUCKLISHMENT, WHICH IS SCREWING EACH AND
EVERYONE OF US, WITH NO EXCLUSION..!!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 28 15:23:09 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 15:23:16 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Maybe a Credo for Mad Scientists
In-Reply-To: <20051028205400.14034.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 28, 2005 01:54:00 PM
Message-ID: <20051028222309.7099.qmail@mall-net.com>
Smoe thoughts on progress, and a possible credo for us mad
scientists.
>
> I AM SICK OF AMERIKA!
> AND PLANET EARTH TOO!
> I WANT TO LEAVE THIS
> EVERLASTING NEVERENDING
> NONSENSE, FOREVER GO
> NOWHERE PLANET OF MEDIA
> BRAINWASHED SHEEPLE, AND
> MEDIA SOLD CRAP, ETC...
So where else are you going to go?
I like it here. It's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better
than other places I've been or read about.
So the best way of dealing with it, is to put your shoulder to
improving your own lot, maybe selling what you did to others as things
or advice. We Americans have done that for over two hundred years, and
moved ourselves, and the world, forward. We call it capitalism.
In contrast, many of the African and Southern Asian nations, the
more tribal ones, have put their shoulder to their tribe's work, and so
are pretty close to where they were 200, 500, a thousand years ago
except where they have been able to get some of our ideas and goods.
It's called socialism or communism.
So our independence, self centered desires, etc. have pulled the
entire world forward. Kind of say something about this nation, doesn't
it?
I like America. It's full of flaws, true; but by and large, it's a
heck of a better place than most of this world. A place where most
promises are kept. (Except by the dumb Igors I have to deal with in this
part of it.)
Seems to me that by and large, the poor are poor because they don't
uphold commitments. With that, no one trusts them. My Igors have shown
me how worthless they are, so I've not tried a bunch of entrepreneurial
things, because if they don't do what they say, I'll fail and waste my
investment. So we all stay poorer for their lack of team spirit,
worthless promises, etc.
Think about it for a moment. We promise we'll pay off our home. We
promise we'll show up at work on time. We promise we'll do our job. And
on those promises, rests our entire society.
What do we mad scientists promise?
First, we must promise to ourselves that we will pursue our better
ideas till they prove successful, or prove unable to succeed. We are
riverboat gamblers, those who's losses are ours, and who's gains pull
all of society, and often the entire world forward.
I think this sums up as a few promises we must make to ourselves.
Something to repeat to ourselves whenever we question whom we are or
whether this universe is perverse in its doling out of success and
failure.
Promise first, to yourself that you will strive to continuously
inspire YOURSELF!!! How depends on you. For me, it is writing, trying
new things, reading about interesting things and asking myself questions
of how, why, etc.
Promise second, to yourself that you will INTELLIGENTLY pursue your
ideas in such manner as to minimize the loss to yourself. After all,
most of our ideas fail. Most successes are based on wisdom hard won by
failure. So let's admit we ain't always gonna succeed. And accept that
fact as just a part of life.
Promise third, that you will NOT STOP! So what it fails! There's
another, and another, and another idea in your skull! The only failure,
is the person who stops trying!
But also, coming back to the first promise, keep trying new things,
success or failure. For too much success destroys humility and then the
soul just as surely as too much failure destroys the spirit. Fail AND
succeed, Succeed AND fail, that you remain human and humane in yourself.
Promise fourth, that when you succeed, you will serve as an example
to others such as yourself, inspiring them with your creativity, your
honesty, your Humanity.
Maybe this should be our credo... Anyone have any improvements to
this? I'm sure I've left a lot out, and some of you brilliant folks can
do better, or at least improve upon this idea of a credo.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Oct 28 15:32:15 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Oct 28 15:32:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA NEEDS....
In-Reply-To: <20051028213802.79492.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 28, 2005 02:38:01 PM
Message-ID: <20051028223215.10595.qmail@mall-net.com>
> The country makes a heck of a lot more sense than a lot of other places
> I read about.
>
> THAT IS TRUE.
> BUT THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED UP..!
So? Come help unscrew it. We could use some help.
> IV'E SEEN THE YOUTH UNDERGROUND WHO ARE AS ANGRY AS HELL..!
Sure, they are willingly separating themselves from the rest of
humanity in their underground, forming tribal societies which are us vs
them based. The minute you do that, you isolate yourself, deprive
yourself, and slowly start destroying ALL YOUR OPPORTUNITIES!
> I THOUGHT THAT LINCOLN WAS MY FAVORITE PRES.
> IT MAY NOW BE THOMAS JEFFERSON, INSTEAD..!
Good Guys! I prefer Reagan, mostly because I saw and heard his
words and his manner of dealing with and improving this world.
> So slow down. Think before you do, observe before you think.
>
> SLOW DOWN IS MANY TIMES EASIER SAID THAN DONE..!
You have to make it a habit. Observation leads to ideas. No
observation is blindness. Most people are functionally blind, because
they do not take time to observe anything, nor ask themselves questions.
> You don't want to be independent.
>
> OH DAMN WELL YES I DO..!
I am more independent than most on this mountain. Generators, Solar,
etc. It's much harder work than that which I did in the corporate
world. MUCH, MUCH harder! If not for my health, I'd consider myself
foolish to be here, so independent as I am.
And even here, I still have to buy my food, clothes, gasoline, etc.
> The system is better than what we can build alone.
>
> NONSENSE..!
>
> Do you want to spend all your time trying to fix your generators,
> like I did today and probably tomorrow,
>
> WITH REDUNDANCY; GENERATOR REPAIR ISN'T A LARGE SCALE
> PROBLEM..!
Redundancy fails piece by piece till nothing works. I now have
three failed generators. Redundant failure!
> or doing things which make the future a better place???
>
> YES..!
> DOING THINGS WHICH MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE..!
> THAT MEANS INDEPENDENCE AND EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE:
> *EQUALLY..!*
Skip the equally, that's a socialist idea. Start with yourself.
When you prove it to yourself, then you can think about others.
The rest is in another post. I have to tend to a few things.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 15:42:10 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 15:42:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MAYBE....
Message-ID: <20051028224211.92072.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
MAYBE MEDIA MILITARY ENERGY INDUSTRIAL
KOMPLEX WASHINGTON D.C. NEEDS TO BE
MOBBED BY WE THE ANGRY MASSES..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 15:54:31 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Oct 28 15:54:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TEN THOUSAND FISTS; BY: DISTURBED.
Message-ID: <20051028225431.7245.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
TEN THOUSAND FISTS ALBUM COVER:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ten_thousand_fists_albumcover.jpg
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Oct 28 16:15:29 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Oct 28 16:15:42 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] And exactly what did Sulu do with Chechov ?
Message-ID: <003701c5dc15$7d28d8a0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Posted on Fri, Oct. 28, 2005
'Star Trek' actor George Takei comes out
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - George Takei, who as helmsman Sulu steered the Starship
Enterprise through three television seasons and six movies, has come out as
a homosexual in the current issue of Frontiers, a biweekly Los Angeles
magazine covering the gay and lesbian community.
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/entertainment/gossip/13015430.htm
From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 17:04:01 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Fri Oct 28 17:04:07 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] And exactly what did Sulu do with Chechov ?
In-Reply-To: <003701c5dc15$7d28d8a0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051029000401.15460.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com>
Kind of makes me wonder about "boldly going where no
man has gone before"
Bob
--- Michael Best wrote:
> Posted on Fri, Oct. 28, 2005
> 'Star Trek' actor George Takei comes out
>
> Associated Press
>
>
> LOS ANGELES - George Takei, who as helmsman Sulu
> steered the Starship
> Enterprise through three television seasons and six
> movies, has come out as
> a homosexual in the current issue of Frontiers, a
> biweekly Los Angeles
> magazine covering the gay and lesbian community.
>
>
>
>
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/entertainment/gossip/13015430.htm
>
>
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Oct 28 20:29:32 2005
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Fri Oct 28 20:29:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Antigravity
Message-ID: <005701c5dc38$fb3549e0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Researchers & Subject Matter Expertise
We've tried to make this list as comprehensive as possible, but due to the
nature of Antigravity research, such a list cannot possibly encompass the
scope of work being done on all of these concepts around the world.
Therefore, this list may not contain references to all relevant information,
but does attempt to be as comprehensive as possible.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/275/1
I have had some limited successes with rotating magnetic fields.
-MB
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Oct 29 10:09:43 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Oct 29 10:09:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] POLL..!
Message-ID: <20051029170943.37460.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
POLL:
HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THINK THAT AN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HEAVY METAL COVER
VERSION OF BOB WILLS AND ERIC CLAPTON'S
TULSA TIME, SHOULD BE (RE)CREATED???
A BAND LIKE DISTURBED COULD DO A DAMN
EXCELLENT COVER;
THOUGH THEY ARE ONLY ONE PROSPECT, THERE
ARE OTHER BANDS;
PERHAPS THERE MAY BE LOCAL UNDERGROUND
TULSA BANDS OF THE CALIBER OF DISTURBED
THAT I AM UNAWARE OF..!
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA, "U.S.A."
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Oct 29 10:47:49 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Oct 29 10:48:05 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] POLL..!
In-Reply-To: <20051029170943.37460.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 29, 2005 10:09:43 AM
Message-ID: <20051029174749.41693.qmail@mall-net.com>
> POLL:
>
> HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THINK THAT AN
> ABSOLUTE PERFECT HEAVY METAL COVER
> VERSION OF BOB WILLS AND ERIC CLAPTON'S
> TULSA TIME, SHOULD BE (RE)CREATED???
1. Heavy metal is generally toxic, whether band or elemental.
2. Perfection stunts imagination.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Oct 30 09:21:58 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 09:22:12 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM SICK OF AMERIKA!
Message-ID: <195.4a859b5f.30964d26@aol.com>
MIT professor sacked for fabricating data
* 15:52 28 October 2005
* NewScientist.com news service
* Eugenie Samuel Reich, Boston
Web Links
* _MIT_ (http://web.mit.edu/)
* _Paul Robinson, Purdue University_
(http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu/rcmi_news/news0102/robin.html)
* _P J Utz, Stanford University School of Medicine_
(http://utzlab.stanford.edu/)
* _Immunity_ (http://www.immunity.com/)
* _Journal of Experimental Medicine_ (http://www.jem.org/)
A high-flying researcher has been fired from the prestigious Massachusetts
Institute of Technology in Boston for fabricating data. A New Scientist
investigation can, however, reveal that serious doubts are also being expressed
over the accuracy of data published by the same researcher much earlier in his
career.
Luk Van Parijs, 35, was an associate professor of biology at MIT. On
Wednesday, he was sacked by the institute after admitting to fabricating and
falsifying research data in a published scientific paper and several manuscripts and
grant applications.
MIT will not confirm which paper contains the faked data, but over the past 8
years, Van Parijs has co-authored 40 research papers, and was considered a
rising star in the fields of immunology and RNA interference, a technology
with promise for finding new genes and treating genetic disease. Van Parijs has
been on administrative leave from MIT since August 2004 while the university
conducted its investigation prompted by allegations made by members of his
lab. MIT has made it clear that none of his co-authors or members of his
research group at MIT were involved in the misconduct.
Prior to MIT?s announcement, an investigation by New Scientist uncovered
uncanny similarities between supposedly different results presented in at least
three highly regarded immunology papers authored by Van Parijs in 1997, 1998
and 1999.
Five experts were asked to view results from some of these papers, which cast
light on the detailed signals that prompt cells of the immune system to
commit suicide. While they emphasise the need to see the underlying raw data,
they say they have sufficient doubts about the authenticity of specific figures
within the papers to merit an independent investigation into their
authenticity.
Cell suicide
Two of the three papers, published in 1997 and 1998, report on Van Parijs?
graduate work in the lab of Abul Abbas at Harvard Medical School in Boston. Of
particular concern are results in a paper published in 1998 in the journal
Immunity (vol 8, p 265), of which Van Parijs was the lead author. The paper
studies two ways that cell suicide is controlled - the proteins Fas and FasL
help trigger the process, while the protein Bcl-2 helps suppress it. The work
was considered elegant and helped to establish Van Parijs as an expert on
immune cell death.
Figure 1 of the paper contains 8 graphs made by flow cytometry, a common lab
technique for measuring the level of different proteins on the surface of
cells. Dots on the graphs represent cells and their positions show how much of
each kind of protein the cells have.
Three graphs in the top row of the figure look very similar. Yet they are
captioned as if they show data from three different mice - a basic control mouse
used for the experiment, a mouse missing the protein FasL, and a mouse
missing the protein Fas. In the bottom row, three graphs again look very similar.
Yet they are again captioned as if they show data from three different mice.
"This is extremely distressing to me," says one immunologist, who asked to
remain anonymous. He says it looks to him as if the three differently captioned
graphs were, contrary to the information in the caption, made from a single
graph from data from a single mouse.
Noisy dots
Michael Borowitz, at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in
Baltimore, Maryland, says: "The shapes of the major clusters are often similar
but in any system there is noise, and those noisy dots are in the same place
too. That's hard to explain by biology. It is very difficult for me to believe
that these were independent experiments." Borowitz is an expert in
interpreting flow cytometry graphs, which he regularly uses to identity abnormal
populations of cells in the blood and bone marrow of leukaemia patients.
Three other experts contacted, including Paul Robinson, a professor of
immunopharmacology and biomedical engineering and Director of the Flow Cytometry
Labs at Purdue University in West Lafayette, say that the graphs appear
concerningly alike.
Robinson emphasises that it is impossible to prove that the data underlying
the supposedly different graphs is the same without seeing the raw data from
which they were generated. But he and four members of his lab have conducted a
simple experiment to gauge the likelihood that data taken from different
mice would produce such similar graphs.
They ran a computer model that produced graphs from two sets of 93,000 cells
and reduced the resolution to below that of Van Parijs? published figures.
Their conclusion, detailed in a brief report seen by New Scientist, is that
even graphs produced from samples taken from the same animal are unlikely to
look the same, and that outlying data points are unlikely to appear in the same
positions by random chance.
However, PJ Utz, an immunologist consulted at Stanford University School of
Medicine, cautions that in this case the figure that contains similar graphs
is not crucial to the argument being made in the research paper. "It does not
affect the scientific conclusions," he says. Utz is not one of the five
experts previously mentioned. However, three other experts strongly disagreed.
They emphasised that the authenticity of all data is crucial to the integrity
and progress of science.
"Convincingly similar"
Further examples exist in a paper Van Parijs published in 1997 in the
Journal of Experimental Medicine (vol 186, p 1119). In Figure 4, the lower left
hand corners of at least three graphs contain almost identical clusters of data
points. Yet they are captioned as if they come from three different mice.
"The ones in the bottom left hand corner are the most convincingly similar,"
says Borowitz.
There are also additional concerns about data in a paper published by Van
Parijs in 1999 after he left Harvard and became a post-doc in the lab of
Nobel-prize winner David Baltimore at Caltech Institute of Technology in Pasadena.
In Immunity (vol 11, p 281), two graphs in Figure 1C look very similar,
especially if the graphs are printed out on transparent paper and superimposed.
Yet one is captioned as if it comes from mouse cells infected with a human
mutant gene, while the other is captioned as if it comes from mouse cells
infected with a normal "wild type" human protein.
No aspersions have been cast on any of Van Parijs?s co-authors who helped
contribute to these three papers. Four of the co-authors that worked on the
papers also say they do not believe that the papers formed part of the MIT
investigation.
In an email to New Scientist following his sacking, Van Parijs said: "None
of the data for the figures you mention have been falsified. I am
collaborating fully with the inquiries and I cannot comment further at this time."
MIT will send the final report of its investigation to the US Office of
Research Integrity, which will conduct its own confidential review of the matter
and make the findings public when that review is complete.
Caltech inquiry
Due to New Scientist?s queries on apparent duplication of data within the
1999 Immunity paper (vol 11, p 281), Caltech launched a separate inquiry into
Van Parijs?s work three weeks ago. The inquiry was instigated by Baltimore,
Caltech?s president, and the senior and corresponding author on the Immunity
paper, and is being independently run by Elliot Meyerowitz, head of the
university?s biology division.
Two institutes of the National Institutes of Health in Washington DC
confirmed that in the past year MIT has returned over $2 million of federal research
money granted to Van Parijs.
Following New Scientist?s queries, Abbas, who moved in 1999 from Harvard to
the University of California in San Francisco, says he is contacting the
co-authors of the Immunity paper (vol 8, p 265) and Journal of Experimental
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:01:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I NEED....
Message-ID: <20051030220132.92709.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
I NEED PENICILLIN, ALKALINE, NEURAL SEDATION,
ETC,,, AND I NEED PEACE..!
I AM NOT GETTING WHAT I NEED..!
I HAVE ZERO LOVE REMAINING FOR CONVENTION
DOCTORS OF MAINSTREAM..!
WHAT DO I DO????
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:09:13 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on free energy.
In-Reply-To: <006001c5d861$35bb93c0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051030220858.84706.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
new energy technologies that could eliminate
our suicidal dependence on fossil fuel.
!!!!*SUICIDAL DEPENDENCE ON FOSSIL FUEL,
IS DAMNED STRAIGHT..!*!!!!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 30 15:12:34 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:12:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I NEED....
In-Reply-To: <20051030220132.92709.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 02:01:32 PM
Message-ID: <20051030221234.40509.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I NEED PENICILLIN, ALKALINE, NEURAL SEDATION,
I'm not sure. You've not done the measurements. You're guessing
blindly.
> ETC,,, AND I NEED PEACE..!
>
> I AM NOT GETTING WHAT I NEED..!
>
> I HAVE ZERO LOVE REMAINING FOR CONVENTION
> DOCTORS OF MAINSTREAM..!
>
> WHAT DO I DO????
When I get in a state like this, I generally go lay down and try to
take a nap. I do some relaxation sensation type stuff, starting at my
feet, trying to relax them while telling myself I am relaxing, relaxing,
relaxing. Counting down from ten, my feet are relaxing, relaxing,
relaxing...
I never seem to remember how far I get in this count-down, as I
fall asleep.
When I wake up, there's usually some idea in my brain as to what to
do.
No problem is so big that a nap can't help.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 15:38:27 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:38:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS ESPRIT, AND THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12.
In-Reply-To: <20050922060502.48562.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030223827.88224.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12 EVOLVE
INTO THE AERODYNAMIC' OF THE FINAL PRODUCTION OF THE
LOTUS ESPRIT - 2004.
CLYDE
clyde lofton wrote:
THE LOTUS ESPRIT:
http://www.leon83.com/leonpic/cars/lotus/Lotus_20Esprit_20V8_20-_2005.jpg
THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:50:33 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) MORAL AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
In-Reply-To: <20051016164850.29141.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030225022.24913.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
MORAL AND TECHNICAL HELL:
AMERICA HAS GONE TO BOTH MORAL
AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:50:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: More on free energy.
In-Reply-To: <006001c5d861$35bb93c0$d0c5bc41@mikey>
Message-ID: <20051030225001.24566.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
new energy technologies that could eliminate
our suicidal dependence on fossil fuel.
!!!!*ELIMINATION OF OUR SUICIDAL
DEPENDENCE ON FOSSIL FUEL, IS
DAMNED STRAIGHT..!*!!!!
!!!!*IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH
WARTIME EFFORT..!!*!!!!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 15:51:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 15:51:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on the Minato Wheel ZPE device.
In-Reply-To: <20050918232037.82164.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030225133.93229.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
I WANT MASS PRODUCTION OF AUDIO AMPLIFIED -
METRONOME DRIVEN - TIME SYNCHRONIZED -
MINATO WHEELS GOING, A.S.A.P. , TO DRIVE BADLY
NEEDED MICROELECTRIC GENERATORS, FOR
REDUNDANT SMALL SCALE ELECTRIC-PLANTS FOR
US ALL..!
CLYDE
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT WEBLINK.
I JUST WISH I HAD ALL OF THE
NECESSARY RESOURCES
AVAILABLE, TO CARRY OUT
EXPERIMENTS ALONG THE SAME
LINES, AS MR. OWENS.
CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=dual
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 30 16:17:43 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:17:52 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on the Minato Wheel ZPE device.
In-Reply-To: <20051030225133.93229.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 02:51:32 PM
Message-ID: <20051030231743.71058.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
> http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=dual
> I WANT MASS PRODUCTION OF AUDIO AMPLIFIED -
> METRONOME DRIVEN - TIME SYNCHRONIZED -
> MINATO WHEELS GOING, A.S.A.P. , TO DRIVE BADLY
> NEEDED MICROELECTRIC GENERATORS, FOR
> REDUNDANT SMALL SCALE ELECTRIC-PLANTS FOR
> US ALL..!
Before we jump into mass production of anything, we must first get
some idea of how much energy these wheels produce, if any. I mean, you
consume energy and money making the wheels; so you want to know that the
break even point and return on investment are going to be. Also what
size generator to hook up to them.
(Yes, I know it spoils some of the fun; but it also spoils part of
the panic when investors bang on your door asking for their money, when
the sherif serves eviction notices, etc. Best you know ahead of time
if you're on the path to wealth or poverty.)
It would also help if we really understood how this system worked.
Investors kind of want to know that before they plunk their money down.
You want intelligent investors, not crackpots who are going to get
cranky or crazy if you have difficulty getting to net profit.
Believe me, a lot of people ARE NOT fit to be your investors!
Don't take money that has too many strings attached! Financing a start
up is not easy, and all too many investors are likely to pull out just
before break-even, thus dooming you and your firm. I've been there
before. I've seen too many start-ups come crashing down just before
break even because some investor saw a brighter gem elsewhere.
Also, it's not clear what the metronome, time synchronization, etc.
have to do with all this. We are, after all, striving for the simplest
devices possible.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:33:20 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:33:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
Message-ID: <20051030233320.98790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:41:48 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:41:56 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JIM WALLIS: WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND LEFT
DOESN'T GET IT.
In-Reply-To: <20051025122447.52023.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030234149.99780.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
JIM WALLIS:
WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND
THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/02/23/findrelig.DTL
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:43:39 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:43:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER.
In-Reply-To: <20051025032334.60752.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030234339.2042.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER:
IN THE COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENT, WE MUST
GUARD AGAINST THE ACQUISITION OF UNWARRANTED
INFLUENCE, WHETHER SOUGHT OR UNSOUGHT, BY
THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. THE POTENTIAL
FOR THE DISASTROUS RISE OF MISPLACED POWER
EXISTS AND WILL PERSIST.
WE MUST NEVER LET THE WEIGHT OF THIS COMBINATION
ENDANGER OUR LIBERTIES OR DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES.
WE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. ONLY AN
ALERT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE CITIZENRY CAN COMPEL
THE PROPER MESHING OF THE HUGE INDUSTRIAL AND
MILITARY MACHINERY OF DEFENSE WITH OUR
PEACEFUL METHODS AND GOALS, SO THAT SECURITY
AND LIBERTY MAY PROSPER TOGETHER.
DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:55:26 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:55:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE.
In-Reply-To: <20050929184722.47300.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030235527.39779.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
THE ACID AIR - ACID RAIN INCLUDED;
IN THIS INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM, ARE
MAKING BREATHING VERY VERY
DIFFICULT TO DO..!
TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE,
AS IT HAS NOW, FOR A LONG TIME.
I NEED A PEACEFUL - PERMANENT
VACATION, TO COLRADO, WHERE IT
IS STILL POSSIBLE TO BREATHE:
NATURALLY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:55:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 16:56:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE.
In-Reply-To: <20050929184722.47300.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051030235557.6473.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
THE ACID AIR - ACID RAIN INCLUDED;
IN THIS INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM, ARE
MAKING BREATHING VERY VERY
DIFFICULT TO DO..!
TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE,
AS IT HAS NOW, FOR A LONG TIME.
I NEED A PEACEFUL - PERMANENT
VACATION, TO COLRADO, WHERE IT
IS STILL POSSIBLE TO BREATHE:
NATURALLY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:01:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:01:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS ESPRIT, AND THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12.
Message-ID: <20051031000100.57323.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12 EVOLVE
INTO THE AERODYNAMIC' OF THE FINAL PRODUCTION OF THE
LOTUS ESPRIT - 2004.
CLYDE
clyde lofton wrote:
THE LOTUS ESPRIT:
http://www.leon83.com/leonpic/cars/lotus/Lotus_20Esprit_20V8_20-_2005.jpg
THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/del.gif
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:03:15 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:03:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
Message-ID: <20051031000315.4409.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE SEND.
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HACKED INTO
THIS COMPUTER, AND ARE FUCKING
WITH ME..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:07:13 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:07:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO OTHER E-MAILS....
Message-ID: <20051031000713.10161.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
TWO OTHER E-MAIL SENDS HAVE BEEN
INTERCEPTED BY SPYWARE THIEVES,
LOCAL, AND OR LONG DISTANCE.
THOSE TWO OTHER E-MAILS ARE
CONCERNING THE DELOREAN D.M.C.
12 , AND THE 2004 LOTUS ESPRIT.
CLYDE
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:16:09 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:16:17 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051030233320.98790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031001609.75416.qmail@web51012.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
Again, as you are an american, I will support your
right to say your piece...
However...
1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
a scudderite "moral revolution."
consider this: how many people would that "moral
revolution" marginalize? would I be a second class
citizen because I've left christianity (and WILL NOT
come back.) Would my wife be in trouble because she
went to wellesley college?
How many people would leave, clyde? Are you willing to
take the gamble? And why should WE have to leave, or
join the church, just because YOU have decided we need
to find god/become a particular brand of
conservative/follow a new leader?
Have fun in Tulsa...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
>
>
http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
>
> http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
>
>
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
>
>
http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
>
> http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
>
>
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:16:09 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:16:19 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051030233320.98790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031001609.75416.qmail@web51012.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
Again, as you are an american, I will support your
right to say your piece...
However...
1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
a scudderite "moral revolution."
consider this: how many people would that "moral
revolution" marginalize? would I be a second class
citizen because I've left christianity (and WILL NOT
come back.) Would my wife be in trouble because she
went to wellesley college?
How many people would leave, clyde? Are you willing to
take the gamble? And why should WE have to leave, or
join the church, just because YOU have decided we need
to find god/become a particular brand of
conservative/follow a new leader?
Have fun in Tulsa...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
>
>
http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
>
> http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
>
>
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
>
>
http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
>
> http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
>
>
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:16:07 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:16:48 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051030233320.98790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031001608.49336.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
Again, as you are an american, I will support your
right to say your piece...
However...
1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
a scudderite "moral revolution."
consider this: how many people would that "moral
revolution" marginalize? would I be a second class
citizen because I've left christianity (and WILL NOT
come back.) Would my wife be in trouble because she
went to wellesley college?
How many people would leave, clyde? Are you willing to
take the gamble? And why should WE have to leave, or
join the church, just because YOU have decided we need
to find god/become a particular brand of
conservative/follow a new leader?
Have fun in Tulsa...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
>
>
http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
>
> http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
>
>
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
>
>
http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
>
> http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
>
>
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 17:16:07 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sun Oct 30 17:16:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051030233320.98790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031001608.49336.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
Again, as you are an american, I will support your
right to say your piece...
However...
1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
a scudderite "moral revolution."
consider this: how many people would that "moral
revolution" marginalize? would I be a second class
citizen because I've left christianity (and WILL NOT
come back.) Would my wife be in trouble because she
went to wellesley college?
How many people would leave, clyde? Are you willing to
take the gamble? And why should WE have to leave, or
join the church, just because YOU have decided we need
to find god/become a particular brand of
conservative/follow a new leader?
Have fun in Tulsa...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
>
>
http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
>
> http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
>
>
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
>
>
http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
>
> http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
>
>
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 18:35:49 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 18:36:00 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I NEED....
In-Reply-To: <20051030221234.40509.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051031013549.13283.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I NEED PENICILLIN, ALKALINE, NEURAL SEDATION,
AND OXYGEN OVERDOSE TOO..!
AND MORPHINE OVERDOSE TOO..!
AND DILAUDID OVERDOSE TOO..!
AND SLEEPING GAS OVERDOSE TOO..!
I'm not sure. You've not done the measurements. You're guessing
blindly.
BLIND GUESSING; WELL I HAVE NO OTHER OPTION, EXCEPT TO
GO TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM TO BE TESTED..!
THOUGH AN APPROXIMATE $1000.00 BILL FROM A LOCAL REAL
MCCOY HOSPITAL, INSTEAD OF A 14 GRAND PSEUDOLOGICAL
'HOSPITAL' BILL IS FAR BETTER THAN A PSEUDOLOGICAL BILL..!
PSEUDOLOGICAL 'HOSPITALS' CHARGE $14,000.00 JUST FOR
ENPRISONMENT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL INFUCKTUTION, FOR
APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS WORTH OF TIME..!
> ETC,,, AND I NEED PEACE..!
>
> I AM NOT GETTING WHAT I NEED..!
>
> I HAVE ZERO LOVE REMAINING FOR CONVENTION
> DOCTORS OF MAINSTREAM..!
>
> WHAT DO I DO????
When I get in a state like this, I generally go lay down and try to
take a nap.
YEAH; I TOOK A NAP THIS AFTERNOON, BUT WHEN I AWOKE
I FELT LIKE SHIT AFTERWARDS..!
TOO MUCH STRESS OVERKILL IN MY LIFE: OVERLOAD..!
NOT ENOUGH EXCERCISE..!
RIGHT NOW, I'M BURNING A LOT OF ENERGY JUST SITTING
HERE.
I do some relaxation sensation type stuff, starting at my
feet, trying to relax them while telling myself I am relaxing, relaxing,
relaxing. Counting down from ten, my feet are relaxing, relaxing,
relaxing...
I never seem to remember how far I get in this count-down, as I
fall asleep.
When I wake up, there's usually some idea in my brain as to what to
do.
No problem is so big that a nap can't help.
YEAH; NAPS DO HELP;
BUT I HAVE DRUG INDUCED (DRUG INFUCKED) INSOMNIA
FROM HELL.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 18:39:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS ESPRIT, AND THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12.
Message-ID: <20051031013947.78968.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12 EVOLVE
INTO THE AERODYNAMIC' OF THE FINAL PRODUCTION OF THE
LOTUS ESPRIT - 2004.
CLYDE
clyde lofton wrote:
THE LOTUS ESPRIT:
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:06:53 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
In-Reply-To: <20051031000315.4409.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 04:03:15 PM
Message-ID: <20051031040648.1370.qmail@mall-net.com>
> SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE SEND.
> MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HACKED INTO
> THIS COMPUTER, AND ARE FUCKING
> WITH ME..!
Double sends are not alway signs of hacking. I've had them when
running Linux, which is more hack resistant than that woundoz thing.
It can happen when protocol connections are interrrupted by noise on the
line or switching problems at several critical points.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 21:14:00 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:14:09 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051031001608.49336.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031041400.31784.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
Again, as you are an American, I will support your
right to say your piece...
However...
1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
I BEG TO DREAM AND DIFFER..!
BUT NOT ENTIRELY:
THE UPPER CLASS ARE ALSO
IMMORAL AND CONTROL THE
IMMORALITY OF THE LOWER CLASSES
THROUGH POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS, AND
MEDIA MANIPULATION, ETC...
2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
I HAVE NO MORE LOVE FOR ANY RELIGIONS:
PERIOD; INCLUDING CHRISTIANITY..!
THOUGH THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS ARE
STILL GOOD TO LIVE BY, REGARDLESS..!
BUT GAUTAMA BUDDHA ALSO HAS GOOD
TEACHINGS AS WELL.
EVERY RELIGION SEEMS TO HAVE GOOD
AND BAD IN ALL OF THEIR TEACHINGS..!
AND ALL RELIGIONS HAVE CONTROL DOGMAS
AS WELL, WHICH I DISLIKE.
3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
a scudderite "moral revolution."
WHAT IS ANOTHER OPTION THEN?
THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, SEEMS TO BE
UNDER A NAZI THEOCRAZY, UNDER THE BUSH
ADMINIFUCKTION..!
IF THERE WERE EVEN MORE MORAL RESTRAINTS
PLACED; WOULDN'T WE ALL MIGHT AS WELL
BECOME ROBOTS; OR AT LEAST - MERGE
WITH MACHINES SO THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE
HEALTHIER, AND MORE PEACEFULLY, ETC....???
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
consider this: how many people would that "moral
revolution" marginalize?
I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE LEFT CHRISTIANITY THOUGH, YET HAVEN'T
ABANDONED THOUGHTS AND KNOWLEDGE, ETC.
REGARDING THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST..!
I'D ALSO LIKE TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THE
TEACHINGS BY BUDDHA AS WELL.
would I be a second class citizen because I've left
christianity (and WILL NOT come back.)
I DON'T KNOW.
THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN SEE MORALITY BEING
RETAINED ON A MASS SCALE IN THE FUTURE, WOULD
BE BY MANKIND MERGING (PEACEFULLY; IF POSSIBLE),
WITH MACHINE; AND NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY
LIVING AND EXISTING IN PERFECT UNISON AND HARMONY
WITH ONE ANOTHER..!
Would my wife be in trouble because she went to
wellesley college?
NOT NECESSARILY.
DID YOU MEAN TO SPELL IT: WESLEY; OR WESLIAN
COLLEGE?
How many people would leave, clyde?
LEAVE WHERE?
LEAVE AMERICA?
Are you willing to take the gamble?
I HATE GAMBLING.
BUT NATURE HAS TO BE TERRAFORMED TO FIT EACH
AND EVERYONE'S NEEDS; EUGENICS AND EUTHENICS
ALIKE HAVE TO BE 'EMBRACED' , AND TECHNOLOGIES
HAVE TO BE CREATED AND USED WITH MORAL
LIMITATIONS PUT IN PLACE, FOR THE SAFETY OF EACH
AND EVERYONE OF US - EQUALLY..!
And why should WE have to leave, or join the church, just
because YOU have decided we need to find god/become a
particular brand of conservative/follow a new leader?
NOT TRUE; PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH
OR BE MEMBERS OF CHURCES, TO HAVE A FAITH IN
GOD, OR FAITH IN THE LORD(S), OR FAITH IN ANY OTHER
SPECIFIC GOD, OR GODS....
Have fun in Tulsa...
THERE'S JUST BARELY ANY FUN TO HAVE, IN THIS
INDUSTRIALIZED SHITHOLE SLUM TOWN AND SHITHOLE
SLUM STATE..!
BREATHING HERE HAS TO BE DONE BY ARTIFICIAL
WAYS AND MEANS; EITHER CHEMICALLY, OR BY
MACHINE; THE AIR IS JUST FAR TOO TOXIC WITH
OMNIDIRECTIONAL CHEMICAL ALLERGIES, IN THE AIR
EVERYWHERE.
NOT ONLY ACID RAIN, WHEN IT RAINS; BUT 'EVERLASTING'
ACID AIR; UNTIL GOOD STORM FRONTS COME THROUGH,
TO CLEAN UP THE ATMOSPHERE, TO WHERE BREATHING
IS FAR FAR EASIER TO DO..!
LATER; CLYDE
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
> SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
>
> http://www.michaellwilliams.com/archive/display.php?id=421
>
> http://ethics.acusd.edu/Applied/poverty
>
> http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Commentary/Success.htm
>
> http://tabletalk.typepad.com/tabletalk/2004/11/moral_values_10.html
>
> http://www.brook.edu/press/REVIEW/FALL97/KUO.HTM
>
> http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/pagana/mg312/kuo.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 21:28:32 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:28:45 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
In-Reply-To: <20051031040648.1370.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051031042833.52941.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE SEND.
> MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HACKED INTO
> THIS COMPUTER, AND ARE FUCKING
> WITH ME..!
Double sends are not alway signs of hacking. I've had them when
running Linux, which is more hack resistant than that woundoz thing.
It can happen when protocol connections are interrrupted by noise on the
line or switching problems at several critical points.
THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB
ARE SUSPICIOUS OF ME, DUE TO ALL THE HELL THAT I'VE
RAISED, ALONG WITH PAST E-MAIL CONTROVERSIES;
PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, DUE TO CHRISTIAN
LIBERALS; AND 'HOUNDDOG' NOSY NEIGHBORS WHO CANNOT
KEEP THEIR NOSES IN THEIR OWN BUSINESS, AND OUT OF
OTHER FOLKS BUSINESS.
AND SO I HAVE NO DOUBT NOW THAT MY YAHOO ACCOUNT
HAS BEEN HACKED INTO BY SOME GOOGLE ACCOUNT,
AND BY SOME CHINESE INFORMATION THAT I FOUND
EARLIER....
THE NEIGHBORS KNOW ABOUT MY PAST AND PRESENT
INTERNET ACTIVITY; AND ESPECIALLY IN COMBINATION WITH
MY LOW POWER F.M. BROADCAST STATION - RADIO ACTIVITY
TOO.
I KNOW I'VE DONE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT
SUSPICIOUS OF MY ACTIVITIES..!
BUT PEACE IS MY ULTIMATE GOAL..!
YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY CORRECT THAT SOME OF
MY NEIGHBORS COULD JUST QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE
F.C.C. , AND PERHAPS THE C.I.A. AND THE F.B.I. AS WELL.
I'M PRETTY WELL CERTAIN THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS
GOING ON HERE..!
TRYING TO STAY PEACEFUL, AMONGST ALL OF THE CEASELESS
SENSELESS NEVERENDING NONSENSE OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE
CONSIDER TO BE LIFE; (THE ROBO ROUTINE WORKSLAVES, ETC...)
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 30 21:49:31 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:49:36 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
In-Reply-To: <20051031042833.52941.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 08:28:32 PM
Message-ID: <20051031044931.28649.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE SEND.
> > MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HACKED INTO
> > THIS COMPUTER, AND ARE FUCKING
> > WITH ME..!
>
> Double sends are not alway signs of hacking. I've had them when
> running Linux, which is more hack resistant than that woundoz thing.
> It can happen when protocol connections are interrrupted by noise on the
> line or switching problems at several critical points.
>
> THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB
> ARE SUSPICIOUS OF ME, DUE TO ALL THE HELL THAT I'VE
> RAISED, ALONG WITH PAST E-MAIL CONTROVERSIES;
> PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, DUE TO CHRISTIAN
> LIBERALS; AND 'HOUNDDOG' NOSY NEIGHBORS WHO CANNOT
> KEEP THEIR NOSES IN THEIR OWN BUSINESS, AND OUT OF
> OTHER FOLKS BUSINESS.
I really don't think your neighbors sound like the type to even see
your e-mails, nevermind hacking into your computer. Even if you send
them crap, which I don't recommend, they probably don't know it's you
because you mentioned a half-way reasonable conversation you had with
some of them.
> I KNOW I'VE DONE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT
> SUSPICIOUS OF MY ACTIVITIES..!
Clyde, you rank next to mouse for suspicious activity. They don't
have time for you, they are chasing vigil anti possies, errorists, guys
who want to cause our leaders some personal problems, etc.
You're a small potato compared to those guys! Come on now, some
idiot up here got into trouble with a bunch of home brew stuff he made,
not from his threats or suspicious activity, but when the daughter of a
police officer saw his snapshots of his personal accumulation of not so
nice rapid combustion devices. They didn't even have a CLUE despite his
belonging to some way far out folks, exchanging correspondence about his
noise makers, etc.
If a guy like that can slip through, not only are you harmless,
you're anonymous!
Enjoy your anonymity, and don't push it.
> BUT PEACE IS MY ULTIMATE GOAL..!
Peace or pieces are the ultimate goals of all these characters. If
they can't get piece under their terms, they want everyone in pieces.
Old as the hills. Just ask Ghengis and his gang.
Want something better. Progress, free electricity, anti gravity
(or anti-cravity) or maybe some real fresh fruit punch.
> YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY CORRECT THAT SOME OF
> MY NEIGHBORS COULD JUST QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE
> F.C.C. , AND PERHAPS THE C.I.A. AND THE F.B.I. AS WELL.
They don't have the money to chase little guys like you, Clyde; not
unless you personally claim you will do nasty things to our leaders.
And quite frankly, I think you have a good heart, and really don't
intend to do anything nasty or harm anyone.
> I'M PRETTY WELL CERTAIN THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS
> GOING ON HERE..!
Ignorant as popsicle sticks stuck in the freezer.
> TRYING TO STAY PEACEFUL, AMONGST ALL OF THE CEASELESS
> SENSELESS NEVERENDING NONSENSE OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE
> CONSIDER TO BE LIFE; (THE ROBO ROUTINE WORKSLAVES, ETC...)
Who says the robo routine work-slaves want any different? Most
don't! Now THAT scares me a lot more than you do!!!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 21:56:55 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS ESPRIT, AND THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12.
In-Reply-To: <20051031013947.78968.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 05:39:47 PM
Message-ID: <20051031045644.31881.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12 EVOLVE
> INTO THE AERODYNAMIC' OF THE FINAL PRODUCTION OF THE
> LOTUS ESPRIT - 2004.
None of them can touch the combination of establishmentarianism
decency and carrying capacity that a good Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser had.
I miss those big station wagons.
Delorian? Lotus? Big waste of money you ought to spend on your mad
science! Even if only one or two of us succeed a year, our
contributions to humanity Far, Far outweigh those of mere car designers!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 30 22:12:28 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 22:12:34 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051031001608.49336.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Oct 30, 2005 04:16:07 PM
Message-ID: <20051031051228.40319.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 1.) Immorality doesn't cause poverty.
Well... I could argue with that one. Illegitimate kids that don't
receive good parenting from both sides do tend to run a little low in
the class, I think. Usually low in education, etc., and yes, that does
tend to put them on the poor side.
But a little screwing around as long as it does not produce
offspring? Well, there's disease, guilt, worry, and yes, some of that
taxes productivity too. But if you don't start, how are you going to
get married??? I mean, look at me. I didn't screw around, and I ended
up marrying a homicidal psychopath in my 40's. Not a good outcome!
Maybe I should have screwed around a bit.
Then again, if I had screwed around, I'd probably not have been
able to try to launch a few companies, etc. Six of one, half dozen of
the other.
However, no mater what you do, you will always have poverty. I
mean, even if you raise the income of all the people by five million
dollars a year, you'll have millionaires who are just poorer than other
folks... and somewhere, you'll have to draw a line called the poverty
line.
Today, the poor live better than the Kings of the middle ages.
> 2.) Christianity is less than my favorite religion
You're not the only one on that. That's for sure!
> 3.) I figure that the last thing this country needs is
> a scudderite "moral revolution."
Nemia Sudder... Ohhh dread! I forget which science fiction story
that was from, but as I recall, it wasn't a pretty one!
> consider this: how many people would that "moral
> revolution" marginalize? would I be a second class
> citizen because I've left christianity (and WILL NOT
> come back.) Would my wife be in trouble because she
> went to wellesley college?
Yep! And then what are we going to do with the priests, shoot
them? I mean, priests are licensed to lie to tell the greater truth as
they see it. And they are indoctrinated, brainwashed, etc. into
believing all kinds of crap that just ain't so!
> How many people would leave, clyde? Are you willing to
> take the gamble? And why should WE have to leave, or
> join the church, just because YOU have decided we need
> to find god/become a particular brand of
> conservative/follow a new leader?
Just more confusion... Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, which all screw
with our economy; mostly because our economy is a little screwy to begin
with. I mean, look at how much research most folks do before buying
something -- NONE!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 22:38:57 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 22:39:04 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH.
Message-ID: <20051031053857.55568.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
I'M SO PISSED AT THE BUSH ADMINIFUCKTION; SO
WHAT THE HELL IN SENDING THIS VERY OFFENSIVE
ARTWORK..!
ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH:
http://www.expressgaynews.com/2005/5-27/news/localnews/Bush-painting-2.jpg
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 22:59:29 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 22:59:40 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TEN THOUSAND FISTS..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Oct 30 22:59:43 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TEN THOUSAND FISTS..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Oct 30 23:10:13 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Oct 30 23:10:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH.
In-Reply-To: <20051031053857.55568.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 30, 2005 09:38:57 PM
Message-ID: <20051031061013.73324.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I'M SO PISSED AT THE BUSH ADMINIFUCKTION; SO
> WHAT THE HELL IN SENDING THIS VERY OFFENSIVE
> ARTWORK..!
>
> ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH:
>
> http://www.expressgaynews.com/2005/5-27/news/localnews/Bush-painting-2.jpg
Sending it on just isn't in your best interests.
I mean, you've not really done the research to be able to say what
really needs to be done.
Look at it this way. Bush, no matter what you may think of him,
has to be a pretty decent guy to be able to run for president without
being tarred and feathered by the press.
I don't know if you remember Eagleton, the vice presidential
candidate of long ago. Someone found out he'd seen a psychiatrist. The
press crucified him. So you're not going to find any real skeletons in
Bush's closet.
Take my word for it, or the lack of any word in the press; Bush is
a decent fellow, even if we don't agree with what he's up to.
So don't be so harsh on the guy.
Next, what he does is largely determined by what information he has
available to him.
Remember, it looked like Saddam was buying some really nasty stuff,
not just this radioactive yellow ore used to make really nasty stuff;
but also in a lot of other areas.
Turns out most of it was Saddam bluffing. Pretty dumb of someone in
a two bit country bluffing against a superpower, no?
We didn't know for sure he was bluffing. The default safe move is
to blow the kaboozles off him. Which, eventually we did.
Look at it this way, what if he was NOT bluffing, and we just
laughed at him? His goal was to destroy Israel. What would we do if he
blew up Telaviv using long lasting radioactives??? And then what???
Israel would conter, then other nations would attack Israel, and
the whole middle east would end up in glowing wreckage.
Not our problem, you think?
We'd be out of oil! Not just low, just about totally out of any
oil we can pump anywhere! And other countries would be bidding up OUR
oil to $200 - $400 a barrel!
I think we did the right thing. Ineptly! Yes! But we did the
right thing.
We also put a good dent in opium production in Afghanistan while
making Old Salami pickup his skirts and run.
Now, we have Iran to contend with. They are making noises they want
to do the same thing Saddam wanted -- blow up Israel. And they've
already had a few accidents with the stuff, some parts of some airport
glow a little at night... We noticed that.
I dunno if diplomacy works on religious lunkheads like that... but
we're going to try that first.
Bush has his hands full. Don't make it any harder for him and his
protectors, ok?
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 06:15:04 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 06:15:15 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH.
In-Reply-To: <20051031061013.73324.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051031131504.54884.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I'M SO PISSED AT THE BUSH ADMINIFUCKTION; SO
> WHAT THE HELL IN SENDING THIS VERY OFFENSIVE
> ARTWORK..!
*
AND I AM SO PISSED AT ALL OF THE POLITICS IN GENERAL,
THAT I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AS A CONCERNED
CITIZEN, AND AS AN ASPIRING AMATEUR MAD SCIENTIST, AND
AMATEUR ENGINEER..!
ALL POLITICS WHETHER - DEMOCRAPIC, OR REFUCKLICAN,
CHEATS SCIENCE, AND TECHNICAL PROGRESSION, ALWAYS
IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER..!
*
> ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH:
>
>
Sending it on just isn't in your best interests.
YEAH; I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SEND IT ON; BUT THE POLITICAL
PAINS IN MY LIFE ARE JUST TOO MUCH; AND SO I NEEDED SOME
FORM OF RELEASE.
I mean, you've not really done the research to be able to say what
really needs to be done.
Look at it this way. Bush, no matter what you may think of him,
has to be a pretty decent guy to be able to run for president without
being tarred and feathered by the press.
I don't know if you remember Eagleton, the vice presidential
candidate of long ago. Someone found out he'd seen a psychiatrist. The
press crucified him. So you're not going to find any real skeletons in
Bush's closet.
DOES BUSH HAVE ANOTHER CLOSET; A CLOSET OTHER THAN
THE WARDROBE WHERE ALL OF HIS BILLION DOLLAR THREE
PIECE MILLION DOLLAR MAN SUITS ARE IN????
PERHAPS ANOTHER CLOSET BURIED SOMEWHERE IN THE
OCCULT UNDERGROUND WHICH IS IN THE DARKNESS, AND NOT
IN THE LIGHT????
Take my word for it, or the lack of any word in the press; Bush is
a decent fellow, even if we don't agree with what he's up to.
LIBERAL PRESS, OR CONSERVATIVE PRESS; WHY SHOULD I TAKE
ANYONE'S WORD FOR IT; INCLUDING YOURS????
So don't be so harsh on the guy.
I'LL BE EQUALLY AS HARSH ON CLINTON, FOR SELLING THIS
COUNTRY OUT, TO CRAPPUNIST COMMUNIST CHINA..!
http://members.aol.com/davetalan/pinochio.html
Next, what he does is largely determined by what information he has
available to him.
STARTING WORLD WAR THREE????
THE UNITED STATES DOLLAR BECOMING THE EURO, AND / OR THE
YEN????
WHY SHOULD I BE FORCED TO HAVE TO USE YENS OR EUROS,
TO BUY CHEAP CHINESE TURD WORLD COUNTRY SHIT, WHEN IT
IS MY WILL TO BUY AMERICAN, AND AMERICAN QUALITY ONLY????
AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL GRADE QUALITY ONLY;
ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
Remember, it looked like Saddam was buying some really nasty stuff,
not just this radioactive yellow ore used to make really nasty stuff;
but also in a lot of other areas.
WAS THAT THE TRUTH, OR WAS IT JUST MEDIA HYPE AND
POOPAGANDA?
DID SAUDI ARABIA SPEND BILLIONS TO START THE WAR IN
THE MIDDLE BEAST; OR ARE WE ALL INDEED FOOTING THE BILL
FOR ALL OF THE WASTEFUL SPENDING???
Turns out most of it was Saddam bluffing. Pretty dumb of someone in
a two bit country bluffing against a superpower, no?
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY SODAAM WAS ONCE A
FRIEND OF THE U.S., AND IS NOW A FOE..!
WHY EVEN LEAVE HIM IN POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE, IF HE
GOES AGAINST OF THE ALL GOOD WILL IN THE WORLD???
We didn't know for sure he was bluffing. The default safe move is
to blow the kaboozles off him. Which, eventually we did.
YES; THAT IS OBVIOUS..!
WHY HAS IT TAKEN BILLIONS OF LAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DO SO
THOUGH, WHEN HIS COUNTRY WAS A TURD WORLD - RUN DOWN
SLUM TOWN???
Look at it this way, what if he was NOT bluffing, and we just
laughed at him? His goal was to destroy Israel. What would we do if he
blew up Telaviv using long lasting radioactives??? And then what???
WHERE WAS IT THAT I HEARD, THAT ISRAEL HAS KONTROL OVER
THE POLITICS OF THE UNITED DIVIDED STATES???
Israel would conter, then other nations would attack Israel, and
the whole middle east would end up in glowing wreckage.
A FRIEND OF MINE ONCE SAID THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE
ISRAEL TO SIBERIA.
I THINK THAT HE WAS DEFINATELY CORRECT ON THAT..!
AS LONG AS ISRAEL IS PART OF THE MIDDLE BEAST SCENARIO,
WAR WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE EVERLASTING ON EARTH, UNTIL
THE NEO ZIONIST INVOKED - INFUCKED: ARMAGEDDON.
BUT THERE SHOULD NOT BE SUCH A THING AS ARMAGEDDON..!
YEAH! : FUCK THE OMEGA....!!
THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING BUT AN ETERNAL EXISTANCE OF
THE ALPHA, AND NOTHING ELSE..!
ZERO ELSE....!!
Not our problem, you think?
IT SHOULDN'T BE OUR PROBLEM..!
AMERICA SHOULD ISOLATE FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD..!
WE NEED TO RESTORE THIS ECONOMICALLY SABOTAGED;
(ECONOMICALLY FUCKED) COUNTRY, BACK TO SANITY..!
AND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE IS A TOP PRIORITY; ONE OF THE
TOP PRIORITIES WHICH IS AND HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE
EVER SINCE THE 70'S, AND PROBABLY EVEN BEFORE THAT
TIME PERIOD..!
MORALITY REVIVAL IS ANOTHER # 1 ON THE LIST..!
We'd be out of oil! Not just low, just about totally out of any
oil we can pump anywhere! And other countries would be bidding up
OUR oil to $200 - $400 a barrel!
WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE TO RELY ON THE GOD DAMNED SHIT OF PETROLEUM SPOIL???
IN AN EVER ENDLESS PURSUIT OF PEOPLE SITTING ON THEIR
ASSES WHO ARE NOT ONLY LAZY, BUT WHO ARE ALSO GREEDY,
AND PERPETUATING AN ENDLESS LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES
SCENARIO..!
LETS GET THE FUCKING SHOW ON THE ROAD, TO BRING ALL
OF THOSE PROMISING UNDERGROUND REPRESSED, SHELVED
ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES INTO THE LIGHT, AND INTO MASS SCALE
COOPERATIVE PRODUCTION LINE EFFORT..!
BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL MORALITY IS DRASTICALLY
IMPROVED; AND THAT WILL TAKE A MIRACLE FROM THE CREATOR
OR FROM THE DEATOR ITSELF..!
I think we did the right thing. Ineptly! Yes! But we did the
right thing.
MAYBE THE RIGHT AND THE WRONG THING, AT THE SAME
GOD DAMNED TIME..!
MASSES OF MEDIA BRAINFUCKED DUMBASS SHEEPLE PEOPLE
CANNOT SEE THINGS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DARK
AND THE LIGHT; THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT; THE BLACK AND THE
WHITE, AT THE SAME TIME.
We also put a good dent in opium production in Afghanistan while
making Old Salami pickup his skirts and run.
WELL YEAH; THAT WAS INDEED A GOOD THING..!
NOW IF GENETIC ENGINEERS COULD ONLY DO EXTENSIVE
STUDIES ON THE GENTIC STRUCT' OF OPIUM, TO SPECIFICALLY
FIND ITS SEDATING PROPERTIES, AND SEPERATE THOSE
PROPERTIES FROM ITS ADDICTIVE PROPERTIES, FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE HUMAN RACE!
Now, we have Iran to contend with.
YEAH WELL; WHY DO WE ALL HAVE TO FOCUS ON NUCLEAR
OMEGA???
OMEGA ='S BIOLOGICAL METASTASIS..!
NUCLEAR RADIOATION DEGENERATION; VS:
WHY CAN'T WE RE-DIRECT OUR FOCUS ONTO ANTINUCLEAR
ALPHA?
ALPHA ='S BIOLOGICAL REGENERATION..!
E.L.F. (EXTRA LOW FREQUENCY) ANTI-NUCLEAR RADIOATION
ELECTROMAGNETIC AND ELECTROMECHANICAL RESONANT
THERAPY REJUVENATION TECHNOLOGY..!
They are making noises they want to do the same thing Saddam
wanted -- blow up Israel.
YEAH WELL; IS BUSH BEHIND THE SCENES, CHEERLEADING IT
ON; LIKE HE HAS DONE SO MUCH CHEERLEADING ALREADY,
FOR THE PROMOTION OF WAR???
And they've already had a few accidents with the stuff, some parts of
some airport glow a little at night... We noticed that.
OK.
NEUTRALIZATION OF NUCLEAR RADIOACTIVE WASTE HAS TO BE
MADE INTO A MASS SCALE REALITY..!
FOR THE ENTIRE 'HUMAN' RACE..!!
I dunno if diplomacy works on religious lunkheads like that... but
we're going to try that first.
THE UNITED STATES; IF WE ARE STILL UNITED ENOUGH; NEED
TO ISOLATE FROM THE REST OF THE TURLD..! YES: TURLD..!
TURLD: TURD WORLD..!
Bush has his hands full. Don't make it any harder for him and his
protectors, ok?
CAN BUSH GET HIS HANDS UNFULL?
CAN BUSH GET HIS HANDS ANTI-FULL?
AND CLINTON TOO?
AND BUSH SR.?
AND ALL OF THE 'PRESIDENTS' ALL THE WAY BACK TO
CHEATING NIXON?
WHY CAN'T WE PUT ANOTHER MAN ON THE MOON
AGAIN; AT LEAST IN THE LIGHT OF PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
THAT IS?
THOUGH I CANNOT PROVE ANYTHING THAT THERE IS
AND / OR HAS BEEN A SECRET SPACE PROGRAM..!
I WANT TO MOVE TO MARS; OR TO MOVE TO ANOTHER
PLANET IN A SOLAR SYSTEM IN SOME GALAXY FAR FAR
AWAY FROM THIS SHITHOLE PLANET..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 06:26:41 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 06:26:51 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PEACE BE UPON THIS DISEASE WORLD..!
Message-ID: <20051031132642.7075.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
PEACE BE UPON THIS DISEASE WORLD..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 06:41:24 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 06:41:32 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRECTION AND EXPANSION.
In-Reply-To: <20051031131504.54884.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031134124.40438.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRECTION AND EXPANSION:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
We also put a good dent in opium production in Afghanistan while
making Old Salami pickup his skirts and run.
WELL YEAH; THAT WAS INDEED A GOOD THING..!
NOW IF GENETIC ENGINEERS COULD ONLY DO EXTENSIVE
STUDIES ON THE GENETIC D.N.A. 'STRUCT (STRUCT;
EXCLUDING THE LINGUISM OF THE WORD: CON) OF OPIUM,
TO SPECIFICALLY FIND ITS SEDATING PROPERTIES, AND
SEPERATE THOSE PROPERTIES FROM ITS ADDICTIVE
NATURE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENTIRE 'HUMAN' RACE!
OR BETTER YET; MAKE THE TRUE NELUMBO LOTUS
FLOWER; A GLOBALIZED PRODUCTION..!
FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE; WITH ZERO INEQUALITY..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 07:07:01 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:07:11 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
In-Reply-To: <20051031044931.28649.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20051031140701.67992.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE SEND.
> > MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HACKED INTO
> > THIS COMPUTER, AND ARE FUCKING
> > WITH ME..!
>
> Double sends are not alway signs of hacking. I've had them when
> running Linux, which is more hack resistant than that woundoz thing.
> It can happen when protocol connections are interrrupted by noise on the
> line or switching problems at several critical points.
OK.
> THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB
> ARE SUSPICIOUS OF ME, DUE TO ALL THE HELL THAT I'VE
> RAISED, ALONG WITH PAST E-MAIL CONTROVERSIES;
> PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, DUE TO CHRISTIAN
> LIBERALS; AND 'HOUNDDOG' NOSY NEIGHBORS WHO CANNOT
> KEEP THEIR NOSES IN THEIR OWN BUSINESS, AND OUT OF
> OTHER FOLKS BUSINESS.
I really don't think your neighbors sound like the type to even see
your e-mails, nevermind hacking into your computer. Even if you send
them crap, which I don't recommend, they probably don't know it's you
because you mentioned a half-way reasonable conversation you had with
some of them.
YEAH; BUT I HAVE RAISED SO MUCH HELL ON BOTH THE LOCAL
BROADCAST AIRWAVES, AND ON THE MAD SCIENTISTS FORUM
SINCE I HAVE JOINED IN; THAT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT I AM IN
THE SPOTLIGHT; THOUGH LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT NOT WANTING
TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT - YOU JUST WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED
FOR THE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE MADE ALONG THE
WAY, IN YOUR LIFE.
I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT THAT..!
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT.
I JUST WANT SOME RECOGNITION FOR THE POSITIVE
CHANGES THAT I HAVE MADE IN THE WORLD..!
> I KNOW I'VE DONE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT
> SUSPICIOUS OF MY ACTIVITIES..!
Clyde, you rank next to mouse for suspicious activity.
NEXT TO MIGHTY MOUSE????
They don't have time for you, they are chasing vigil anti possies, errorists,
guys who want to cause our leaders some personal problems, etc.
I'VE RAISED ENOUGH HELL TO BE UNDER SUSPICIOUS WATCH..!
I KNOW SO..!
You're a small potato compared to those guys! Come on now, some
idiot up here got into trouble with a bunch of home brew stuff he made,
not from his threats or suspicious activity, but when the daughter of a
police officer saw his snapshots of his personal accumulation of not so
nice rapid combustion devices. They didn't even have a CLUE despite
his belonging to some way far out folks, exchanging correspondence
about his noise makers, etc.
OK.
If a guy like that can slip through, not only are you harmless,
you're anonymous!
I'M NOT EXACTLY ANONYMOUS..!
MY LIFE HAS BEEN SO FAR TRAPPED THAT IT HAS BEEN HELL
FIGHTING TO REACH THE SURFACE; TO BREAK THE SURFACE..!
Enjoy your anonymity, and don't push it.
OK.
> BUT PEACE IS MY ULTIMATE GOAL..!
Peace or pieces are the ultimate goals of all these characters. If
they can't get piece
(DID YOU MEAN TO TYPE PEACE HERE?)
under their terms, they want everyone in pieces.
Old as the hills. Just ask Ghengis and his gang.
Want something better. Progress, free electricity, anti gravity
(or anti-cravity) or maybe some real fresh fruit punch.
OK.
> YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY CORRECT THAT SOME OF
> MY NEIGHBORS COULD JUST QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE
> F.C.C. , AND PERHAPS THE C.I.A. AND THE F.B.I. AS WELL.
They don't have the money to chase little guys like you, Clyde; not
unless you personally claim you will do nasty things to our leaders.
I DON'T RECALL CLAIMING TO DO ANY NASTY THINGS TO 'OUR'
LEADERS.
THOUGH INSTEAD OF THE ZIONISTS AND THE MUSLIMS FIGHTING
WARS WITH BOMBS, GUNS, AND SWORDS, ETC.... WHY DON'T THEY
ALL JUST HAVE SHIT AND PISS WARS????
SHIT AND PISS STOCKPILING AND THROWING AND DUMPING SHIT
AND PISS WARS WITH ONE ANOTHER..?
PERSONALLY; I'D LIKE TO SEE THE WILLIAMS SANK OF OKLAHOMA
WORLD TRADE TOWER, IN DOWNSLUM, TO BE COATED IN SHIT..!
MAYBE THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD STATE-MENT-(ALISM); IN THIS
FASCIST KRAPPUNIST KORPORATE FUCKED SLUM (SHITTY), AND
SLUM (STATE)..!
And quite frankly, I think you have a good heart, and really don't
intend to do anything nasty or harm anyone.
YEAH; MY HEART IS GOOD; BUT IT HAS BEEN BROKEN; AND
IS LIKEWISE CORRUPTED..!
> I'M PRETTY WELL CERTAIN THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS
> GOING ON HERE..!
Ignorant as popsicle sticks stuck in the freezer.
?
> TRYING TO STAY PEACEFUL, AMONGST ALL OF THE CEASELESS
> SENSELESS NEVERENDING NONSENSE OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE
> CONSIDER TO BE LIFE; (THE ROBO ROUTINE WORKSLAVES, ETC...)
Who says the robo routine work-slaves want any different?
YEAH; AND I THOUGHT IN THE PAST THAT I COULD MAKE POSITIVE
CHANGE/S IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM SHITHOLE; BUT WHEN NEIGHBORS
ARE DEVIL'S ADVOCATES, WHAT DOES THAT FORCE OTHER NEIGHBORS
TO PLAY????
MAKES SENSE DOESN'T IT..! ..?
Most don't!
YEAH; AVERAGE ORDINARY EVERYDAY ROUTINE IDIOCY.
AMERICAN IDIOCY..!
Now THAT scares me a lot more than you do!!!
AMERICAN IDIOTS..!
LATER, CLYDE
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Oct 31 07:13:26 2005
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:13:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH.
Message-ID: <1ff.d7a1a55.30978086@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/31/2005 12:39:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
I'M SO PISSED AT THE BUSH ADMINIFUCKTION; SO
WHAT THE HELL IN SENDING THIS VERY OFFENSIVE
ARTWORK..!
ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH:
That's not so offensive, Clyde. To be really offensive to everyone you
should replace Bushes body, leave the head and face alone, with the body of a
camel.
Regards Vesta
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And
those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:35:38 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TWO WEBLINKS....
Message-ID: <20051031143525.92933.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
TWO WEBLINKS:
THE ENTERPRISE N.X. 01:
http://scifi.about.com/library/graphics/enttvguide.jpg
SUPERSIZE ME WEBLINK:
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 07:42:02 2005
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:42:20 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH.
In-Reply-To: <1ff.d7a1a55.30978086@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20051031144203.95860.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/31/2005 12:39:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes:
ARAB SODOMIZING BUSH:
That's not so offensive, Clyde. To be really offensive to everyone you should
replace Bushes body, leave the head and face alone, with the body of a camel.
A VERY GOOD POINT..!
Regards Vesta
SINCERELY, CLYDE
No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those
who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please."
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 07:52:30 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Oct 31 07:52:35 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051031051228.40319.qmail@mall-net.com>
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Javilk,
1.) I'd contend that "moral poverty" doesn't cause
economic poverty, but "cognitive poverty" does. If
someone doesn't know what their options are, they
can't make a good choice in regards to their life.
Personally, I wouldn't marry a woman I had never slept
with, too many unknown variables, and I really dislike
theocrats trying to tell me what to do. I've noticed
that they stopped even trying the bully routine, ever
since I grew to 6'2" and had a habit of sparring with
friends... (I HAVE noticed that the people who run
around saying that sex should only be in marriage are
the same folks that say "congratulations on your
pregnancy" to rape victims. grumble.)
2.) Nehemiah scudder (may his soul burn) was a
character in heinlein's story titled "if this goes
on..."
the story took place in the ending days of a religious
dictatorship. Heinlein himself had stated that he had
two other stories to write, in regards to that
storyline, but that they were too depressing.
Bob
--- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Well... I could argue with that one.
> Illegitimate kids that don't receive good parenting
from both sides do tend to run a little low in
> the class, I think. Usually low in education, etc.,
> and yes, that does tend to put them on the poor
side.
>
> But a little screwing around as long as it does
> not produce offspring? Well, there's disease,
guilt, worry, and yes, some of that taxes productivity
too. But if you don't start, how are you going to get
married??? I mean, look at me. I didn't screw
> around, and I ended up marrying a homicidal
psychopath in my 40's. Not a good outcome!
> Maybe I should have screwed around a bit.
>
> Then again, if I had screwed around, I'd
> probably not have been able to try to launch a few
companies, etc. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
>
> However, no mater what you do, you will always
> have poverty. I mean, even if you raise the income
of all the people by five million dollars a year,
you'll have millionaires who are just poorer than
other
> folks... and somewhere, you'll have to draw a line
> called the poverty line.
>
> Today, the poor live better than the Kings of
> the middle ages.
>
> You're not the only one on that. That's for
> sure!
> Nemia Sudder... Ohhh dread! I forget which
> science fiction story that was from, but as I
recall, it wasn't a pretty one!
>
> Yep! And then what are we going to do with the
> priests, shoot them? I mean, priests are licensed
to lie to tell the greater truth as they see it. And
they are indoctrinated, brainwashed, etc. into
believing all kinds of crap that just ain't so!
>
> Just more confusion... Fear Uncertainty and
> Doubt, which all screw with our economy; mostly
because our economy is a little screwy to begin
> with. I mean, look at how much research most folks
> do before buying something -- NONE!
>
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 08:40:27 2005
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Oct 31 08:40:31 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051031041400.31784.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051031154027.55094.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
It depends on what you mean by "moral restraints."
consider this:
given 1: my wife lets me "play with a few
ladyfriends."
given 2: I have never broken my promise to anyone,
save under duress.
given 3: I teach GED programs, work with abused kids,
and contribute to a food bank.
Am I immoral, or moral? why? under which system?
(under some european systems, having a mistress, or
"very playful friend" is considered NORMAL.
2.) in regards to the merging of man and machine, you
might want to read the book by john barnes called
"candle."
but that still begs the questions of:
A.) what form of moral code?
B.) what are the precepts?
C.) what's against the code?
D.) who enforces it?
3.) my wife went to Wellesley college in Wellesley,
Massachusetts. It's a college with something like 2400
women, and 8 guys. Something like 30% of the women
there are gay or bisexual, many are pagan, are all
well read and politically active in some form or
another.
4.) I meant leave the United States of America. While
this is (in my opinion) the greatest country in the
world, if we started legislating morality, it wouldn't
be. I could see a large number of folks leaving the
USA for canada, Europe, or other places.
5.) by "gamble" I meant that you might be taking a
risk (and a substantial one at that) in wanting to
legislate morality. sort of a perceived benefit versus
a possible risk.
like this: (chance of good outcome x level of good)
versus
(risk of bad outcome x level of problem)
if only 1 person leaves from a change, and that one
person was the town junkie, no big deal.
if 30% of your town leaves from the new blue laws, and
that 30% was your support crew (cops, teachers,
engineers)...VERY BIG DEAL!
and the creation of a "moral revival" would almost
have to have a "join the group, or get out"
enforcement. Even in Star Trek, the vulcans had some
of that. (the romulans left vulcan, rather than get
with sarek's program.)
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
> WHAT IS ANOTHER OPTION THEN? THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW,
SEEMS TO BE UNDER A NAZI THEOCRAZY, UNDER THE BUSH
> ADMINIFUCKTION..! IF THERE WERE EVEN MORE MORAL
RESTRAINTS PLACED; WOULDN'T WE ALL MIGHT AS WELL
> BECOME ROBOTS; OR AT LEAST - MERGE WITH MACHINES SO
THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE HEALTHIER, AND MORE PEACEFULLY,
ETC....??? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
>
> would I be a second class citizen because I've left
> christianity (and WILL NOT come back.)
>
> I DON'T KNOW.
> THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN SEE MORALITY BEING
> RETAINED ON A MASS SCALE IN THE FUTURE, WOULD
> BE BY MANKIND MERGING (PEACEFULLY; IF POSSIBLE),
> WITH MACHINE; AND NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY
> LIVING AND EXISTING IN PERFECT UNISON AND HARMONY
> WITH ONE ANOTHER..!
>
> Would my wife be in trouble because she went to
> wellesley college?
>
> NOT NECESSARILY.
>
> DID YOU MEAN TO SPELL IT: WESLEY; OR WESLIAN
> COLLEGE?
>
> How many people would leave, clyde?
>
> LEAVE WHERE?
> LEAVE AMERICA?
>
> Are you willing to take the gamble?
>
> I HATE GAMBLING.
> BUT NATURE HAS TO BE TERRAFORMED TO FIT EACH
> AND EVERYONE'S NEEDS; EUGENICS AND EUTHENICS
> ALIKE HAVE TO BE 'EMBRACED' , AND TECHNOLOGIES
> HAVE TO BE CREATED AND USED WITH MORAL
> LIMITATIONS PUT IN PLACE, FOR THE SAFETY OF EACH
> AND EVERYONE OF US - EQUALLY..!
> NOT TRUE; PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH
> OR BE MEMBERS OF CHURCES, TO HAVE A FAITH IN
> GOD, OR FAITH IN THE LORD(S), OR FAITH IN ANY OTHER
> SPECIFIC GOD, OR GODS....
>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 31 10:15:12 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 31 10:15:18 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPIC: MORAL POVERTY 101.
In-Reply-To: <20051031145230.91222.qmail@web51013.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Oct 31, 2005 06:52:30 AM
Message-ID: <20051031171512.62488.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
>
> Javilk,
>
> 1.) I'd contend that "moral poverty" doesn't cause
> economic poverty, but "cognitive poverty" does. If
THey are somewhat related. if you want to draw
a line between them, well... it's a leaky line; but
yes there is kind of a line between them, not anything
that is really a strong line.
> someone doesn't know what their options are, they
> can't make a good choice in regards to their life.
> Personally, I wouldn't marry a woman I had never slept
> with, too many unknown variables, and I really dislike
> theocrats trying to tell me what to do. I've noticed
> that they stopped even trying the bully routine, ever
> since I grew to 6'2" and had a habit of sparring with
> friends... (I HAVE noticed that the people who run
> around saying that sex should only be in marriage are
> the same folks that say "congratulations on your
> pregnancy" to rape victims. grumble.)
Yep. And women are too stupid to wear reasonable
clothes in many cases. It isn't a 100% relationship,
as the true rapis is into power, not sex;
but I have seen it excite some folks, and in my oppinion,
make some women look, well, just stupid from my point of
view.
> 2.) Nehemiah scudder (may his soul burn) was a
> character in heinlein's story titled "if this goes
> on..."
Ah. I thought it was Heinlien. He liked the old west
model of expansion, missing that people tech enough to
expand don't have old west values and mindsets. They want
more mental action, and that means being in the thick of
things technologically, where one idea feeds another.
The Old West was settled by fatalists. What really
killed that kind of fatalistic will to go out there,
was modern medicine. Old folks, knowing they need
medicine to stay alice, now congregate near hospitals
and related care facilities. Kills the pioneering
spirit!
I am living in an isolated area. The only old folks
out here are too poor to get health care. Most of the folks
out here have some mental problems dealing with many
people, earning a living, etc. Though some, like me,
just can't take the pollution down in the valley.
We lost our pioneering spirit. We sold out to
health care. We've grown soft, prefering our pleasures
to our rights, our entertainment to our values.
But not all of us, not all of us. And you know,
I am not sure it wasn't always this way. We did have our
city slickers as well as our far-out independents.
What really changed, is that death is no longer so
common that evolution is visible, and that life is so
precious that we had to really be polite because we didn't
know if we'd see folks again.
Pluses and minuses. Technology evolves society.
That is something we mad scientists should really remember:
Technology evolves society! From the railroads to the internet,
the meaning of distance diminishes. And with that, the human
contact among friends, for now we leave our friends to see
other parts of the world, to live where our kind of work is, etc.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 31 12:51:34 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 31 12:51:39 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SORRY....
In-Reply-To: <20051031140701.67992.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Oct 31, 2005 06:07:01 AM
Message-ID: <20051031195134.71807.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I KNOW I'VE DONE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT
> > SUSPICIOUS OF MY ACTIVITIES..!
>
> Clyde, you rank next to mouse for suspicious activity.
>
> NEXT TO MIGHTY MOUSE????
No, next to a field mouse in Idaho.
> If a guy like that can slip through, not only are you harmless,
> you're anonymous!
>
> I'M NOT EXACTLY ANONYMOUS..!
> MY LIFE HAS BEEN SO FAR TRAPPED THAT IT HAS BEEN HELL
> FIGHTING TO REACH THE SURFACE; TO BREAK THE SURFACE..!
You are world famous to yourself, kind of like some spot in East
Hartford that I heard about, selling T shirts "The Agora -- World Famous
in East Hartford" Only i think they were famous in only a small part of
East Hartford, not all of it. (Or maybe it wasn't The Agora... some
place or other. I think the person wearing the T shirt worked at The
Agora... I don't remember, as it wasn't particularly interesting to me.)
> Peace or pieces are the ultimate goals of all these characters. If
> they can't get piece
>
> (DID YOU MEAN TO TYPE PEACE HERE?)
Yes.
> under their terms, they want everyone in pieces.
> Old as the hills. Just ask Ghengis and his gang.
>
> Want something better. Progress, free electricity, anti gravity
> (or anti-cravity) or maybe some real fresh fruit punch.
>
> OK.
> I DON'T RECALL CLAIMING TO DO ANY NASTY THINGS TO 'OUR'
> LEADERS.
> THOUGH INSTEAD OF THE ZIONISTS AND THE MUSLIMS FIGHTING
> WARS WITH BOMBS, GUNS, AND SWORDS, ETC.... WHY DON'T THEY
> ALL JUST HAVE SHIT AND PISS WARS????
Because it's too real. The blood and gore covers up the S and P;
but it still stinks!
> And quite frankly, I think you have a good heart, and really don't
> intend to do anything nasty or harm anyone.
>
> YEAH; MY HEART IS GOOD; BUT IT HAS BEEN BROKEN; AND
> IS LIKEWISE CORRUPTED..!
Not to worry.
> > I'M PRETTY WELL CERTAIN THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS
> > GOING ON HERE..!
>
> Ignorant as popsicle sticks stuck in the freezer.
>
> ?
I should have said ignorant as popsicle sticks frozen in the bottom
of the back of the freezer.
They just are not interested in you, Clyde.
This kind of thinking is paranoid delusional thinking. It comes
with high adrenaline output, as I inadvertently found out trying to
treat some of my health problems with a mix of certain (legal) amino
acid concentrates, producing too much adrenaline. Fortunately, my mind
is strong, and I laughed about it's searching for conspiracies, reasons
for the police to be after me, etc. when I saw a flock of officers walk
into a supermarket and start shopping. Must have been shift change at
the local police office in that town. Instead of running, I merely
smiled as I continued my shopping. Oh, if they only knew! Um, knew
what??? Never could find anything that they would want to know about me
that would change their opinion that I am just an ordinary decent guy.
I liked the other side effects even worse (blood pressure 180 over
120, problems with deep analytical thought, etc.), so decided that
wasn't an appropriate therapy. But for a few days, I felt nearly
indestructible, didn't have any of my allergy and MCS symptoms, etc.!
At least as long as I kept taking the stuff in the right ratios. Ah
well, that's life with broken biochemistry.
> > TRYING TO STAY PEACEFUL, AMONGST ALL OF THE CEASELESS
> > SENSELESS NEVERENDING NONSENSE OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE
> > CONSIDER TO BE LIFE; (THE ROBO ROUTINE WORKSLAVES, ETC...)
>
> Who says the robo routine work-slaves want any different?
>
> YEAH; AND I THOUGHT IN THE PAST THAT I COULD MAKE POSITIVE
> CHANGE/S IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM SHITHOLE; BUT WHEN NEIGHBORS
> ARE DEVIL'S ADVOCATES, WHAT DOES THAT FORCE OTHER NEIGHBORS
> TO PLAY????
> MAKES SENSE DOESN'T IT..! ..?
Nope. Most people just don't care, don't want to be disturbed out of
their ruts.
> YEAH; AVERAGE ORDINARY EVERYDAY ROUTINE IDIOCY.
> AMERICAN IDIOCY..!
You think we have idiots??? You thing WE have Idiots???
What about the Islamic isbombic idiots who are so eager to blow
themselves up??? I mean, any target will do for them! You'd think
they would go after something particularly valuable, like the leaders,
no? No, any target will do for those idiots!
Shades of the middle eastern guy,m Hassan(?), who advocated hashish
consumption among his troops during training and war. Those jokers
wanted to die in combat too! They terrorized the entire middle east way
back when. He makes Old Salami Been Loaded look like a modern day piker!
I think it wasn't till Ghengis Khan hit the middle east that they got
rid of that outfit.
Clyde, history is full of crackpots and stupid people who followed
them. it really is. Today, we Americans are better educated, so don't
fall for a lot of that crap. At least most of us don't. We did have the
Hari Krishnas, Moonies, and a few other cults... (Sigh) but by and
large, we are better than that.
This is just about the best our world has produced to date. We've
come a long way; but we still have a long way to go.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Oct 31 21:38:28 2005
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Oct 31 21:38:41 2005
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Baptizing Priest Electrocuted!
Message-ID: <20051101043828.90486.qmail@mall-net.com>
In Waco Texas, a rock star pastor baptizing people at the
University Baptist Churche was electrocuted when, stepping into the pool
of baptismal water, he grabbed a microphone so as to be heard by the
800 strong congregation.
Is that a sign from God?
Or Darwin?
Or that God believes Darwin is adequate to weed out those ignorant
of physics?
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