From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 09:03:00 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:03:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE TOPICS. Message-ID: <20050901160300.96407.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> SEARCH ENGINE TOPICS: 1. ARE AUTOMOBILES GOING OBSOLETE? 2. ARE AUTOMOBILES BECOMING OBSOLETE? 3. AUTOMOBILE OBSOLESCENCE(.)(?) 4. VISION 2025. 5. U.N. AGENDA 21. 6. RESISTING U.N. AGENDA 21. 7. RESISTANCE TO U.N. AGENDA 21. 8. (TULSA) SISTER CITIES. 9. PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. 10. WORLD BANK. 11. WORLD BANK GLOSSARY. 12. EMINENT DOMAIN. 13. SUPPRESSING SMALL BUSINESS. 14. REGIONALISM. 15. EDUCATIONAL CORRUPTION. 16. COMMUNIST SOCIALISM. 17. FASCIST SOCIALISM. 18. COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA. 19. FASCIST PROPAGANDA. 20. TECHNICAL PROGRESS(ION(ISM). 21. TECHNICAL STIFLISM / STIFLEMENT. 22. WHO OWNS THE INTERNET? 23. INTERNET IMMORALITY. 24. AIRWAVE IMMORALITY. 25. GOVERNMENT IMMORALITY. 23. KOMPLEXES. 24. KOMMUNISM(PLEXES). 25. GLOBALISM. --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/c1a7ff74/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Sep 1 12:23:59 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Sep 1 12:24:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Rebuilding New Orleans Message-ID: <000201c5af2a$b4bbc920$d0c5bc41@mikey> After the unnamed Galveston hurricane a century ago, Galveston was rebuilt above sea level. Perhaps it is time to backfill New Orleans, and do the same? -MB From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 12:27:16 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 12:27:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Psych Drugs In-Reply-To: <20050901031839.5165.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050901192716.50617.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Article suggests Psych drugs overhyped, not effective, and may cause more trouble than they cure. YOU GOT THAT RIGHT, FOR DAMN SHURE! ZYPREXA HAS RUINED MY IMMUNE SYSTEM. DEPOKOTE AND CLONAPIN HAVE RUINED MY CARIOVASCULAR ARRANGEMENT. THE COMBINATION OF ALL THREE OF THEM SEEM AS THOUGH THEY HAVE CAUSED ME IRREVERSIBLE HARM. WHOLISTIC AND HOMEOPATHIC THERAPIES AND TREATMENTS: VITAMIN SCIENCE, AND ELECTROMECHANICAL RESONANCE THERAPY, AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE THERAPY; ARE GOOD ALTERNATIVES, THAT SHOULD BE MORE WIDESPREAD AND AVAILABLE. http://www.newstarget.com/011353.html See also http://www.BolenReport.com/ GOTTA GO; CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/64df488a/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Sep 1 14:15:03 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:15:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Pistols, swords, or cow chips Message-ID: <1aa.3d6a3b28.3048c957@aol.com> In a message dated 8/31/2005 4:18:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mbest@triad.rr.com writes: I might just ask Javilk to be my second, and then your feast might well be crow in five flavors, extra spicy! Soaking the crow in buttermilk first dramatically improves the flavor. And I suggest a nice white Zinfandel to accompany crow. -MB Excuse me, but didn't you, in a former post accept ME as your second ? There is another matter to consider, what qualifications for the job does Mr. Jalivk have that I do not ???? I offered to Second you, as one gentleman to another. Has there been a change in the rules of behavior amongst civilized people? It is not I my good man who must eat crow, it is you whom I sincerely invite to luncheon on the South End of a North bound Skunk. May I suggest a fine bottle of Thunder Bird to accompany your meal. Still hungry Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/4e9e4231/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Sep 1 15:45:05 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Sep 1 15:45:13 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: The UN In-Reply-To: <20050831044601.17260.qmail@web51915.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c5af46$cc71aaa0$d0c5bc41@mikey> > From: Robert Juliano [mailto:rhjuliano@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:46 AM > 1.) your command of frothy invective is astounding > (gratuitous snarky comment.) Thank you for the compliment! I pride myself on my command of the frothy invective! > 2.) the UN law of the sea says that the sea bed > minerals in our territory are ours exclusively. The > stuff in the EEZ is our at first call. So? They belong to us regardless of the LOST! The issue is the use of the high seas, international waters. > 3.) the link you posted was bad. No, it was split over two lines of text, and you did not realize this and recombine it. > 4.) the only things I could find regarding the ITU was > that ICANN seems to be falling apart. Hardly. Send me your citations regarding this, please. I have seen nothing to support this argument. > 4a.) " I will waste no more time on someone who works > at being ignorant of current events." that sound like > you KNOW that you have no reliable facts. Quite the contrary. You have not followed the issue, and refuse to listen to reason now. The issue is real; I have no desire to argue with a brick wall. > 4b.) my wife hasn't heard about this fiendish plot of > the ITU attempting to wrest internet from us loyal > 'muricuns (that's "americans" in moron-speak). note > well: casting aspersions on my wife can get you hurt. You want a piece of me? Bring it on! It's just like an ignorant fool to threaten physical herm against those who disagree with crap and have sound citations to support their point! You do not scare me, and damn well better not threaten me, EVER AGAIN! When I state that you, or your wife, are ignorant of current events, it is no aspersion. It is simply my opinion of empirical fact, based upon YOUR statements! Do not condemn ME for YOUR profession of ignorance. > 5.) I have yet to see any proof that the UN as a whole > is corrupt. we can probably agree that many countries > in the UN are about as straight as a 3 dollar bill. > 5a.) stating that I am allied with corruption, in > place of facts, is an ad hominem attack. it's also > invalid, and - snarkily - a remarkably stupid thing to > say. Yet you continue to support this corrupt organization! I need not say that you are allied with a corrupt system; you do that quite well all by yourself. > 6.) the entirety of your bit about slavery sounds to > me like purple prose. they can not sell us into > slavery. Another metaphor of mine. I suppose I should restrain my prose to the "Dick meets Jane" level for your improved readability. > 5a.) the US is a sovereign nation, they don't control > us. Was that supposed to be 6a.)? The UN is doing its utmost to control sovereign nations. This must be resisted. > 5b.) the UN has no teeth to enforce agreements, let > alone a slaver raid. Was that supposed to be 6b.)? They are finding their teeth! And again, "selling us into slavery' was a metaphor. There are many forms of slavery, and not all shackles are made of iron. Oh, I'm so sorry! I just used another confusing construction. If you have difficulty understanding that previous paragraph, please ask for an explanation before demonstrating your lack of understanding publicly. I will, as always, be happy to help. > 5c.) the UN doesn't outright own countries. (you could > make a very strong case for black mail via food > shipments.) Was that supposed to be 6c.)? So you ADMIT that the UN is using its power improperly! > 6.) personally, I trust the UN folks a hell of a lot > more than I trust most US government folks (I'll > include many muricuns, in there as well.) Was that supposed to be 7.)? (Y'know, proofreading is becoming a lost art!) Well, I trust the UN less than any corrupt Democrap or Refuklican politician in DC. Trust who you will, but don't hold your breath for us redneck 'mericuns to save your posterior when the UN comes for YOU! We iletarat redneck merucuns will be far too busy saving our friends in N'orlans, Loosiana, where the UN refuses to even admit there is a problem. We haven't even the ability to bury the dead in New Orleans, and the UN is nowhere to be found. That Satanic UN does not deserve the cost of lead and powder to be put out of its misery, IMHO. (Oops, another metaphor!) -MB BTW- Bob and Vesta, what are YOU, personally, doing for the American victims of Katrina? Have you even given a single red cent to the relief effort? From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 17:47:06 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:47:13 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY. In-Reply-To: <204.90659a2.304729ee@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050902004706.4779.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: YOU ARE NOT CRAZY CLYDE !!!!!! There are times when I think you need to chill out, I WISH I COULD BE FLASH FROZEN IN AN ANTI-SECOND, FROZEN FOREVER, IN ANTI-TIME, FOREVER. (JOKING!) but after yesterday, I can see "SOMEWHAT" where you are coming from. YEAH; BUT ABOUT CHILLING OUT; I NEED TO SLOW WAY WAY WAY DOWN. JOHN SAYS THAT I NEED TO CHECK INTO CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTION, AND THAT CARBON MONOXIDE TOXICITY COULD BE A MAJOR REASON FOR MY ADRENAL OVERKILL. I CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THAT $100.00 PORTABLE UNIT THAT HE GAVE US THE WEBLINK TO, AT http://www.aeromedix.com IS IT POSSIBLE THAT I COULD RENT ONE LOCALLY, HERE IN TULSA, OF TECHNICAL- -FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENCE, TO THE PORTABLE-NON U.L. LISTED, C.O. EXPERTS MODEL 2004, OR POSSIBLY THAT EXACT UNIT? IF CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING IS PART OF WHAT I AM SUFFERING FROM, I'D LIKE TO CERTAINLY FIND OUT IF THAT IS THE CASE. WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY SUPPLY THOUGH, THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Against better judgment, I simped out and took in an abused Parakeet, poor thing, an emotional wreck. So my LOML (love of my life) decided bird needed a buddy since we all work 10 to 12 hours a day and bird would get lonely. Went to local pet store and selected a 20.00 dollar friend for " Peanut." Here's where it gets SPOOKY. After I paid cash for bird, I was handed 2 government forms to fill out. TWO GOVERNMENT FORMS????? THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME, THAT PERTAINS TO BIRDS; ARE THE BIRD FLU, AND WEST NILE VIRUS; AND IF THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SO SECURE, THEN WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A DAMNED BIRD FLU, WHEN WE WASTED BILLIONS ON WORTHLESS IRAQ? YUP, that's what I said, 2 forms for Uncle Sam. CORRECTION: 1. UNCLE SCAM. AND: 2. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE. Now like most kids from the woods of Maine and New Hampshire, (male and female) I was raised around guns, and to this day enjoy target practice. I CAN'T LEGALLY OWN A GUN. When I go to the local gun shop to buy a fire arm I fill out one small yellow paper swearing I am an American and not now or ever have been in a mental hospital CORRECTION: 1. ENVIRON-MENTAL SO-CALLED HOSPITAL. AND: 2. ENVIRON-MENTAL INTRA-TORTURE-TUTION. or a felon. That's all there is to my buying any legal weapon in New Hampshire. The clerk will call in to the police my drivers license for a check and get an ok to sell within 5 minutes. And no you don' t have to register the arms since police know you bought them. In less than 30 minutes in this state I can buy a CANNON , but to buy a Parakeet I have to fill out forms that between reading them and answering questions about my residence, phone, and reason for purchase , etc. I was in the shop close to an hour. I HATE to tell the government anything more than who I am so they can collect their taxes. I AGREE! The people I bought the bird from gave me very vague reasons why I had to complete the forms. THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU ALL REASONS..! These birds are bred here in the state, not imported or originate from anywhere else. This is not a place where the birds could go wild if they escaped, birds would starve or be eaten by wild birds if they got away. They said something about the Pheasant or Partridge family ( not the 60 ies group ) but it was all gobblie-gook to me. I remember the clerk saying that if something goes wrong, someone would call and warn me. HMMM...... WHAT?,,,, LIKE THE DAMNED BIRD FLU OR SOMETHING? LOML - gave me this look of complete confusion, we had bought a 3 once bird, not an AK47. What could go wrong to bring the police, in full swat gear most likely, to my home to confiscate a Parakeet ?????????? BIRD FLU? WEST NILE VIRUS? POSSIBLY OR PROBABLY THE BIRD FLU? Clyde, life for us baby boomers has changed so fast and in such strange ways, You think - - (COMMUNIST) - - red tape drives you boinkers, think of what it does to us. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT DOES FOR THE BABY BOOMERS. About the only way I stay sane is to go with the flow, accept the changes, but , question everything. You can't fight city hall, BUT, you can as we Americans are taught to do, look for the LOOP HOLES. There are loop holes in everything from cutting your food costs by using store brands, to getting a free education by applying for a grant from what ever your ethnic group is. YEAH; I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT A POSSIBLE MONEY GRANT FOR THE TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY MIND AND HEART. (TULSA TIME THOUGH, IS COMPLETE CHAOS AND CONFUSION NONSTOP, APART FROM FORT COLLINS COLORADO TIME, WHERE I ASSUME THINGS THERE, ARE MORE ORDERLY). Can't afford a lawyer, there is Pro Bono. I'VE HEARD OF PRO BONO, BUT HAVE NEVER KNOWN WHAT IT MEANS. There are millions of loop holes that are ethical and legal. Search them out. OK; A MONEY GRANT, OR MONEY GRANTS, IF POSSIBLE; THE TALKING CLOCK ELECTRONICS PROJECT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT, IF APPLIED TO THE RIGHT CAUSE; PROBABLY INSTITUTIONAL, LIKE IN HOSPITALS; INSTEAD OF IN THE BROADCASTING INDUSTRY. MAYBE NOT; MAYBE THE TALKING CLOCK WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY BOTH HOSPITAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS, AND THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY, ALL EQUALLY. BUT I REJECT CHEAP LABORED, TURD WORLD COUNTRY, ANTI-QUALITY CHINESE CRAP. THE TALKING CLOCK UNIT HAS TO BE MADE FIRST CLASS, IN A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY, IN A TOP QUALITY NEMA STANDARD 19" RACKMOUNTABLE CASE, WITH MINIMALISM, FOR ITS USER FRIENDLINESS, TO ALL PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE IT. I know someone who was fired and they used the RACE CARD, they are a white Jew, boss was Black Muslim. They won the case. YOU are not crazy Clyde, ONE OF MY UNCLES NOW THINKS I AM AS CRAZY AS HELL NOW, AFTER I SENT HIM A BARRAGE OF MY E-MAILS; SORT OF A MISTAKE FOR ME TO DO THOUGH. I KIND OF MADE A MISTAKE THERE, AND HAVE TO SEND AN APOLOGY BACK TO HIM BECAUSE OF IT. HE SAW MADNESS, BUT HE DID NOT SEE THE METHOD TO THE MADNESS, SINCE I ONLY GOT HIS E-MAIL ADDRESS THE OTHER DAY, BECAUSE I'VE WANTED TO NETWORK TO HIM TOO, BESIDES ONLY TO ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE OF WHOM I CORRESPOND WITH. HE HASN'T EVEN SEEN THE HALF OF IT ALL, TO GET THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH, AND TO GET THE FULL PICTURE OF THE MADNESS OF THE OTHER THINGS IN REALITY AS WELL, THAT CAUSE ME TO LOSE MY MIND AT TIMES. if everyone around you seems to be crazy, you be sly like a fox and navigate your way around the worse. Keep an open mind, but don't go pro or con about anything until you do the best research you can about what ever. OK. THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS SHITHOLE SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD ARE AS NOSY AS HELL, THE TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, MY E-MAILS ARE PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY BEING MONITORED, AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES (B.P.L.) IS MORE THAN LIKELY BEING USED AGAINST ME; THE FUCKING POLICE STATE HELICOPTER FLIES OVER THE HOUSE AT NIGHT TIME WHEN I WALK AROUND OUTSIDE, DUE TO THE NETWORKED INSECURITY SYSTEM OF THIS BROKEN HOME. THE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF ME ARE ASSHOLES, AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE A BACKYARD THAT BACKS UP AGAINST THIS HOUSE'S BACKYARD WERE PROBABLY PUT THERE BY THE SHITTY OF TULSA (D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX), FOR REASONS THAT I WILL LEAVE UNNAMED. TULSA OKLAHOMA, I SWEAR; I'M ABOUT READY TO LEAVE THIS WORTHLESS SINKING SHITTY (SHIP) BEHIND; PERMANENTLY; INDEFINATELY! EVERYONE HERE, IN THIS GODDAMNED SLUMLAND IS ALWAYS ANGRY; MORE THAN LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE ENDLESS OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND FROM THE EVERLASTING ENDLESS LACK OF PROGRESS; THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED; FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, WITH DARK CLOUDS AND A FULL MOON ALWAYS OVERCAST; SHITTY ON THE SINKHOLE SHITHOLE HELLHOLE SESSPOOL (CESSPOOL) SANDS, OF THE SHITTIEST PART OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER; PODUNK INDUSTRIAL SLUM-INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: TULSA OKLAHOMA. IT'S ABOUT TIME TO LEAVE THIS SINKING SHITTY AND SHTATE (SHIP) BEHIND. BECAUSE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF ITS ENVIRONMENT. Grandpa used to say; "Don't believe everything you hear YEAH; THE MEDIA IS FULL OF SHIT ON BOTH SIDES: THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT; EQUALLY; THEY ENDLESSLY TALK AND ARGUE FOREVER, BUT RARELY PROVIDE PRACTICAL AND PERMANENT, LASTING SOLUTIONS; THE MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THE MAINSTREAM NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAINSTREAM MAGAZINES; ALL OF THE FUCKING COMMERCIALISM CRAP IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, AND ALL OF THE COMPLEX AND WORTHLESS FINE PRINT, IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES. and only half of what you see". REALITY IS BOTH AN ILLUSION AND A DELUSION, SIMULTANEOUSLY; (A DILLUSION). I REJECT REALITY AS IT IS; OR AT LEAST; REJECT A LOT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT TO BE; BECAUSE REALITY IS MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT TOO; INCLUDING THE VISUAL MEDIA: TELEVISION, AND NOT JUST THE RADIO ALONE, AND THE NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAGAZINES. Regards Vesta SINCERELY, CLYDE No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/6ffbb6fb/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 17:51:04 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:51:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART ONE). In-Reply-To: <204.90659a2.304729ee@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050902005105.61633.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> (PART ONE) Vesta111@aol.com wrote: YOU ARE NOT CRAZY CLYDE !!!!!! There are times when I think you need to chill out, I WISH I COULD BE FLASH FROZEN IN AN ANTI-SECOND, FROZEN FOREVER, IN ANTI-TIME, FOREVER. (JOKING!) but after yesterday, I can see "SOMEWHAT" where you are coming from. YEAH; BUT ABOUT CHILLING OUT; I NEED TO SLOW WAY WAY WAY DOWN. JOHN SAYS THAT I NEED TO CHECK INTO CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTION, AND THAT CARBON MONOXIDE TOXICITY COULD BE A MAJOR REASON FOR MY ADRENAL OVERKILL. I CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THAT $100.00 PORTABLE UNIT THAT HE GAVE US THE WEBLINK TO, AT http://www.aeromedix.com IS IT POSSIBLE THAT I COULD RENT ONE LOCALLY, HERE IN TULSA, OF TECHNICAL- -FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENCE, TO THE PORTABLE-NON U.L. LISTED, C.O. EXPERTS MODEL 2004, OR POSSIBLY THAT EXACT UNIT? IF CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING IS PART OF WHAT I AM SUFFERING FROM, I'D LIKE TO CERTAINLY FIND OUT IF THAT IS THE CASE. WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY SUPPLY THOUGH, THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Against better judgment, I simped out and took in an abused Parakeet, poor thing, an emotional wreck. So my LOML (love of my life) decided bird needed a buddy since we all work 10 to 12 hours a day and bird would get lonely. Went to local pet store and selected a 20.00 dollar friend for " Peanut." Here's where it gets SPOOKY. After I paid cash for bird, I was handed 2 government forms to fill out. TWO GOVERNMENT FORMS????? THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME, THAT PERTAINS TO BIRDS; ARE THE BIRD FLU, AND WEST NILE VIRUS; AND IF THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SO SECURE, THEN WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A DAMNED BIRD FLU, WHEN WE WASTED BILLIONS ON WORTHLESS IRAQ? YUP, that's what I said, 2 forms for Uncle Sam. CORRECTION: 1. UNCLE SCAM. AND: 2. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE. Now like most kids from the woods of Maine and New Hampshire, (male and female) I was raised around guns, and to this day enjoy target practice. I CAN'T LEGALLY OWN A GUN. When I go to the local gun shop to buy a fire arm I fill out one small yellow paper swearing I am an American and not now or ever have been in a mental hospital CORRECTION: 1. ENVIRON-MENTAL SO-CALLED HOSPITAL. AND: 2. ENVIRON-MENTAL INTRA-TORTURE-TUTION. or a felon. That's all there is to my buying any legal weapon in New Hampshire. The clerk will call in to the police my drivers license for a check and get an ok to sell within 5 minutes. And no you don' t have to register the arms since police know you bought them. In less than 30 minutes in this state I can buy a CANNON , but to buy a Parakeet I have to fill out forms that between reading them and answering questions about my residence, phone, and reason for purchase , etc. I was in the shop close to an hour. I HATE to tell the government anything more than who I am so they can collect their taxes. I AGREE! The people I bought the bird from gave me very vague reasons why I had to complete the forms. THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU ALL REASONS..! These birds are bred here in the state, not imported or originate from anywhere else. This is not a place where the birds could go wild if they escaped, birds would starve or be eaten by wild birds if they got away. They said something about the Pheasant or Partridge family ( not the 60 ies group ) but it was all gobblie-gook to me. I remember the clerk saying that if something goes wrong, someone would call and warn me. HMMM...... WHAT?,,,, LIKE THE DAMNED BIRD FLU OR SOMETHING? LOML - gave me this look of complete confusion, we had bought a 3 once bird, not an AK47. What could go wrong to bring the police, in full swat gear most likely, to my home to confiscate a Parakeet ?????????? BIRD FLU? WEST NILE VIRUS? POSSIBLY OR PROBABLY THE BIRD FLU? CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/6a0f5976/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 17:53:07 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:53:22 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <204.90659a2.304729ee@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050902005307.68088.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> (PART TWO) Vesta111@aol.com wrote: Clyde, life for us baby boomers has changed so fast and in such strange ways, You think - - (COMMUNIST) - - red tape drives you boinkers, think of what it does to us. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT DOES FOR THE BABY BOOMERS. About the only way I stay sane is to go with the flow, accept the changes, but , question everything. You can't fight city hall, BUT, you can as we Americans are taught to do, look for the LOOP HOLES. There are loop holes in everything from cutting your food costs by using store brands, to getting a free education by applying for a grant from what ever your ethnic group is. YEAH; I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT A POSSIBLE MONEY GRANT FOR THE TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY MIND AND HEART. (TULSA TIME THOUGH, IS COMPLETE CHAOS AND CONFUSION NONSTOP, APART FROM FORT COLLINS COLORADO TIME, WHERE I ASSUME THINGS THERE, ARE MORE ORDERLY). Can't afford a lawyer, there is Pro Bono. I'VE HEARD OF PRO BONO, BUT HAVE NEVER KNOWN WHAT IT MEANS. There are millions of loop holes that are ethical and legal. Search them out. OK; A MONEY GRANT, OR MONEY GRANTS, IF POSSIBLE; THE TALKING CLOCK ELECTRONICS PROJECT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT, IF APPLIED TO THE RIGHT CAUSE; PROBABLY INSTITUTIONAL, LIKE IN HOSPITALS; INSTEAD OF IN THE BROADCASTING INDUSTRY. MAYBE NOT; MAYBE THE TALKING CLOCK WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY BOTH HOSPITAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS, AND THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY, ALL EQUALLY. BUT I REJECT CHEAP LABORED, TURD WORLD COUNTRY, ANTI-QUALITY CHINESE CRAP. THE TALKING CLOCK UNIT HAS TO BE MADE FIRST CLASS, IN A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY, IN A TOP QUALITY NEMA STANDARD 19" RACKMOUNTABLE CASE, WITH MINIMALISM, FOR ITS USER FRIENDLINESS, TO ALL PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE IT. I know someone who was fired and they used the RACE CARD, they are a white Jew, boss was Black Muslim. They won the case. YOU are not crazy Clyde, ONE OF MY UNCLES NOW THINKS I AM AS CRAZY AS HELL NOW, AFTER I SENT HIM A BARRAGE OF MY E-MAILS; SORT OF A MISTAKE FOR ME TO DO THOUGH. I KIND OF MADE A MISTAKE THERE, AND HAVE TO SEND AN APOLOGY BACK TO HIM BECAUSE OF IT. HE SAW MADNESS, BUT HE DID NOT SEE THE METHOD TO THE MADNESS, SINCE I ONLY GOT HIS E-MAIL ADDRESS THE OTHER DAY, BECAUSE I'VE WANTED TO NETWORK TO HIM TOO, BESIDES ONLY TO ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE OF WHOM I CORRESPOND WITH. HE HASN'T EVEN SEEN THE HALF OF IT ALL, TO GET THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH, AND TO GET THE FULL PICTURE OF THE MADNESS OF THE OTHER THINGS IN REALITY AS WELL, THAT CAUSE ME TO LOSE MY MIND AT TIMES. if everyone around you seems to be crazy, you be sly like a fox and navigate your way around the worse. Keep an open mind, but don't go pro or con about anything until you do the best research you can about what ever. OK. THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS SHITHOLE SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD ARE AS NOSY AS HELL, THE TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, MY E-MAILS ARE PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY BEING MONITORED, AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES (B.P.L.) IS MORE THAN LIKELY BEING USED AGAINST ME; THE FUCKING POLICE STATE HELICOPTER FLIES OVER THE HOUSE AT NIGHT TIME WHEN I WALK AROUND OUTSIDE, DUE TO THE NETWORKED INSECURITY SYSTEM OF THIS BROKEN HOME. THE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF ME ARE ASSHOLES, AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE A BACKYARD THAT BACKS UP AGAINST THIS HOUSE'S BACKYARD WERE PROBABLY PUT THERE BY THE SHITTY OF TULSA (D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX), FOR REASONS THAT I WILL LEAVE UNNAMED. TULSA OKLAHOMA, I SWEAR; I'M ABOUT READY TO LEAVE THIS WORTHLESS SINKING SHITTY (SHIP) BEHIND; PERMANENTLY; INDEFINATELY! EVERYONE HERE, IN THIS GODDAMNED SLUMLAND IS ALWAYS ANGRY; MORE THAN LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE ENDLESS OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND FROM THE EVERLASTING ENDLESS LACK OF PROGRESS; THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED; FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, WHERE PROGRESS AND SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST, WITH DARK CLOUDS AND A FULL MOON ALWAYS OVERCAST; SHITTY ON THE SINKHOLE SHITHOLE HELLHOLE SESSPOOL (CESSPOOL) SANDS, OF THE SHITTIEST PART OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER; PODUNK INDUSTRIAL SLUM-INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: TULSA OKLAHOMA. IT'S ABOUT TIME TO LEAVE THIS SINKING SHITTY AND SHTATE (SHIP) BEHIND. BECAUSE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF ITS ENVIRONMENT. Grandpa used to say; "Don't believe everything you hear YEAH; THE MEDIA IS FULL OF SHIT ON BOTH SIDES: THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT; EQUALLY; THEY ENDLESSLY TALK AND ARGUE FOREVER, BUT RARELY PROVIDE PRACTICAL AND PERMANENT, LASTING SOLUTIONS; THE MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA, AND THE MAINSTREAM NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAINSTREAM MAGAZINES; ALL OF THE FUCKING COMMERCIALISM CRAP IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, AND ALL OF THE COMPLEX AND WORTHLESS FINE PRINT, IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES. and only half of what you see". REALITY IS BOTH AN ILLUSION AND A DELUSION, SIMULTANEOUSLY; (A DILLUSION). I REJECT REALITY AS IT IS; OR AT LEAST; REJECT A LOT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT TO BE; BECAUSE REALITY IS MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT TOO; INCLUDING THE VISUAL MEDIA: TELEVISION, AND NOT JUST THE RADIO ALONE, AND THE NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAGAZINES. Regards Vesta SINCERELY, CLYDE No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/c2f3f02f/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 18:04:10 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:04:17 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Fw: KATRINA: Of Highest Importance: Please Read, Share and Help! In-Reply-To: <000901c5af37$6481afd0$5da10e44@yoursz6x6sefxo> Message-ID: <20050902010410.7638.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> NOW THIS IS CRAZY, BUT NECESSARY! SINCERELY, CLYDE Randy Harris wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie Smithson Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: KATRINA: Of Highest Importance: Please Read, Share and Help! Hurricane Assistance, Assistance Opportunities (Very Important Note from MS in FL: If you think this has merit, please pass it along to the powers that be -- newspapers, politicians, etc... There is a veritable sea of construction trailers and truck/shipping containers --including refrigerated ones -- that can be donated, purchased or loaned. Send in crews -- and don't forget to hire those left homeless and jobless who so desperately need the work/income -- cut windows, doors, roof a/c, plumbing, insulation, etc.. They are about the same size as older mobile home and trailers -- make them into temporary homes for the hurricane victims -- move them onto PUBLIC LANDS (bought and owned by the public) to accomodate these homeless individuals. Set them up at the PUBLIC LANDS CAMPGROUNDS, which already have hook-ups for electricity, water and sewage. To the good folks that own campers, camper trailers, motor homes, etc., that are roadworthy and may not get used anymore -- please consider donating these to the Salvation Army. U nlike hurricane Charley victims, these people have no job to go back to -- and in some cases, not even a town! Since clean-up/construction crews cannot work in the hardest-hit areas, now is the perfect time to get started on container housing. Mexicans have lived in these for years -- some have fences, flowers and even shutters! Ask Americans to donate clean bedding, grills, used furniture, appliances, etc. to outfit these container houses -- we all have perfectly good, usable extra "stuff" and it's far cheaper than buying new trailers. For temporary housing, this would be a Godsend. Thousands of temporary housing units are needed. It beats living in a superbowl or being homeless! Tax dollars go only so far. In Port Charlotte Florida, the debris from Hurricane Charley, abandoned houses, weeds and even the Charlotte High School have not yet been attended to -- the destruction is everywhere, the same goes for the Panhandle. And it's been A WHOLE YEAR -- not to mention Katrina hittin g southeast Florida and the mess it created there. Those who were living in FEMA trailers sandwiched in like Oreo cookies alongside I-75, must evacuate by the next month or two -- but at least most of them have a job or found employment.) September 1, 2005 The Lufkin Daily News P.O. Box 1089 Lufkin, Texas 75902-7089 936-632-6631 Fax: 936-632-6655 Customer Service hours: Mon - Fri: 7:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m., Sat - Sun: 7:00 a.m. - 10:00 a.m. To submit a Letter to the Editor: aadams@coxnews.com or lufnews@coxnews.com (300-word limit) If you need help Free or reduced-price meals are available to evacuees this week at a number of Lufkin restaurants by showing a valid ID listing the place of residence. Ralph and Kacoo's, 3107 S. First St. (a half-mile south of Loop 287) is offering free meals from 2 to 4 p.m. today and Friday for hurricane evacuees. Hibernia Bank, which is located at 1610 S. First St., will be providing a free hot dog lunch for Hurricane Katrina evacuees from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. today. Other restaurants that are offering free food to evacuees with valid IDs include McDonalds, Quiznos and Subway, according to a spokeswoman for the American Red Cross. Also, Barnhill's Steaks and Buffet, 3102 S. John Redditt Drive will offer $4.99 all-you-can-eat buffet meals (approximately half-price) for evacuees with a valid ID showing place of residence. Wal-Mart Supercenter, 2500 Daniel McCall Drive, is offering assistance to hurricane victims. The store is giving away coupons with a value of up to $30 to help cover evacuees' expenses, and the pharmacy is filling prescriptions for patients who still have their bottles, as long as their prescriptions are current and valid. Also, the store is referring evacuees to local doctors who are taking in Louisiana hurricane victims for free if they have forgotten their prescription bottles or were left with nothing. The store is also asking any hurricane victims who are employed by Wal-Mart to contact the Lufkin location for supportive information. The Wal-Mart Supercenter number is 1-936-639-9600 and the pharmacy number is 1-936-639-2275. To give help The Red Cross needs volunteers and donations of toiletries, bottled water, bedding and toys for children. Donations are being accepted in Lufkin at 1905 E. Denman Ave., outside Loop 287 across from the Jack In the Box restaurant. In Nacogdoches, donations can be dropped at the city's recreation center, 1112 North St. Cash donations may by made by calling toll-free: 1-800-HELP-NOW (435-7669) or 1-800-257-7575 (Spanish). On the Web at: http://www.RedCross.org A quick and easy way to donate to the hurricane relief can be found on the Internet at http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/animal_environ/hurricanes/ Home Depot of Lufkin is accepting donations of anything except money. The store is partnering with the Red Cross in providing much-needed items, including pet supplies. Contact store manager Alan Krusemark at 1-936-699-3555. Lufkin Mall is accepting donations for the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army hurricane relief funds. "In addition to these monetary donations, we are collecting personal items and baby items for evacuees who have to stay longer in the Lufkin area," Sherri Ziegenhals, Lufkin Mall's marketing manager, said in a press release. The items listed include diapers, wipes, formula, baby food, toothpaste, toothbrushes, bath soap, deodorant, hygiene products, disposable razors, shampoo. The items will be given to the Salvation Army for Distribution. All donations can be dropped off at Lufkin Mall's Customer Service Center. Phone numbers Toll-free numbers from Louisiana Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness and Texas Governor's Division of Emergency Management: Louisiana State Police Road Closure Hotline ? 1-800-469-4828. The Salvation Army 1-800-725-2769 (SAL-ARMY) or use the Internet at http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/USNSAHome.htm to give using credit cards. Checks may be sent to The Salvation Army, P.O. Box 4857, Jackson, MS 89296-4857. "A $100 donation to The Salvation Army will feed a family of four for two days, provide two cases of drinking water and one household clean-up kit, containing brooms, mops, buckets, and cleaning supplies." Red Cross shelter information 1-866-438-4636 (GET-INFO). Red Cross 1-800-435-7669 (HELP NOW) Credit-card donations can be made on the Web at http://www.redcross.org Louisiana hotel information 1-800-994-8626 99(-GUMBO). Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) ? 1-800-621-3362 or 1-800-621-FEMA. Visit your local Wal-Mart or Sam's Club to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Anyone who traveled to Texas and is currently needing assistance can call 2-1-1 or 1-888-312-4567. Information for persons with special needs seeking public shelter, including the elderly, the ill and the disabled, also is available. The city of Lufkin, Texas, Emergency Operations Center has established a telephone bank where citizens may call to get updates on Hurricane Katrina. Inquiries in regard to shelter information, donations and other related items may be made at 1-936-630-0671, 1-936-630-0669 or 1-936-630-0667. Copyright 2005, Lufkin Daily News. http://www.lufkindailynews.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/09/01/20050901LDNhurr1.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/ce81a1b4/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 18:26:05 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:26:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IGNORE CRAZY: PARTS ONE AND TWO. Message-ID: <20050902012605.31196.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> IGNORE: CRAZY: PART ONE, AND: CRAZY: PART TWO. DUE TO THE K LIMIT ON THE CAPACITY, I SCRAMBLED TO SEND THE ORIGINAL, IN TWO HALVES, THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE OVER THE 40 K SENDING LIMIT. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, 40 K IS THE LIMIT OF INFORMATION CAPACITY TO POST, AND/OR TO SEND IN ANY E-MAIL. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/41e793a8/attachment.html From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 19:54:19 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:54:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another step towards fusion power In-Reply-To: <000001c5ae8c$2d670d70$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050902025419.7906.qmail@web51914.mail.yahoo.com> MB, sweet! (tho' I was figuring we could grab the neutrons to enrich standard hydrogen into deuterium/tritium.) Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > And this one is aneutronic- clean. No 2.4 Mev > neutrons to shield! > > http://snipurl.com/hcrf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/8b83ae50/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 20:45:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:45:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REGARDING JOHN DELOREAN; (REVISED). Message-ID: <20050902034525.79111.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED FROM ORIGINAL SEND: EXCERPTS FROM THE BOOK: HARD DRIVING, (FROM PAGE 126, PARAGRAPHS TWO AND THREE), AUTHORED BY WILLIAM HADDAD; WITH SOME OF MR. HADDAD'S COMMENTARY, A QUOTATION FROM JOHN DELOREAN, AND A LITTLE BIT OF MY ADDED COMMENTS AT THE END; (CLYDE) : HADDAD: JOHN CONTINUED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DEPENDENCE ON ARAB OIL. HE BELIEVED IN BOTH PRESIDENT NIXON'S AND PRESIDENT CARTER'S PLANS TO MAKE THE NATION SELF-SUFFICIENT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES, BUT EVERY TIME A REPORT ON THE SUBJECT WAS ISSUED, JOHN WAS DISAPPOINTED. DELOREAN: "THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE DOING;" HADDAD: HE SAID. DELOREAN: "A BUNCH OF ACADEMICS WITH THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASSHOLES ARE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND." HADDAD: JOHN'S ANSWER WAS TO HAVE ME PREPARE A REPORT FOR THE PRESIDENT ON HIS VIEW OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT. HE USED EVERY CONTACT IN INDUSTRY HE KNEW, AND I FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH A TEAM OF MY OWN. WHEN THE REPORT WAS COMPLETED, I SENT IT TO PRESIDENT CARTER, TO KEY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, AND TO OTHER INFLUENTIAL AMERICANS. THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHERS PRAISED IT, AND BEGAN TO CITE IT IN REPORTS. EDITORIALS SOON APPEARED, AND JACK ANDERSON WROTE A COLUMN ON JOHN'S VIEW THAT HYDROGEN WAS THE FUEL OF THE FUTURE. THIS WAS THE JOHN I HAD KNOWN IN GENERAL MOTORS DAYS. MY THOUGHTS/COMMENTS; (CLYDE): JOHN DELOREAN'S VIEW ON AMERICAN DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL, AND HIS VIEW ON THE NECESSARY DEVELOPMENT OF COUNTERCONVENTIONAL (ESOTERIC) ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, AND HYDROGEN AS A NATIONAL FUEL, IS IN 100% SYNCHRONOCITY WITH THE WAY THAT I FEEL. I QUESTION: COULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN TO BE EASILY SPLIT FROM WATER, (USING ONLY TUNED SONIC ENERGY, TUNED TO A PERFECT RESONANT CAVITY, PRODUCING CHEAP AND ABUNDANT HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN GASSES ON DEMAND, PRODUCING AND BURNING THOSE GASSES AT WILL, SO AS TO WHERE DANGEROUS EXPLOSIVE GARGANTUAN SIZED FUEL STORAGE TANKS WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED, NOR A NEED FOR LARGE SCALE HYDROGEN PRODUCTION FACILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM BE REQUIRED; THAT ONLY A FULL TANK OF WATER, AND VERY LITTLE ELSE, BUT A TYPICAL GAS STYLE PUMP, DESIGNED TO PUMP WATER WITH THE TYPICAL CORRESPONDING ACCELLERATOR PEDAL,) GETTING US TO PLACES, BOTH INEXPENSIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY? IF ANYONE HASN'T SEEN THE SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE: CHAIN REACTION, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. IT IS SCIENCE FICTION, BUT IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING A POTENTIAL REALITY. THE MOVIE WAS SPONSORED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO-HYDROGEN ENERGY PROJECT. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050901/3ac0cdb0/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 2 00:59:16 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:59:36 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050902005307.68088.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 01, 2005 05:53:07 PM Message-ID: <20050902075916.90037.qmail@mall-net.com> > > THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS SHITHOLE SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD ARE > AS NOSY AS HELL, THE TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, MY E-MAILS > ARE PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY BEING MONITORED, AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES (B.P.L.) IS MORE THAN LIKELY BEING USED AGAINST ME; THE FUCKING POLICE STATE HELICOPTER FLIES OVER THE HOUSE AT NIGHT TIME WHEN I WALK AROUND OUTSIDE, DUE TO THE NETWORKED INSECURITY SYSTEM OF THIS BROKEN > HOME. This is likely paranoid thinking. None of us is really important enough to warrant police investigation. And what are they going to find anyway? A bunch of science books? As to the police helicopter, they fly over a lot of places. So what? We see them here from time to time. Military helicopters too. And some of those military helicopters, when inspected with binoculars, turn out to be TV helicopters, like KGO (not KGB, which is probably another radio station.) > THE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF ME ARE ASSHOLES, AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE A BACKYARD THAT BACKS UP AGAINST THIS HOUSE'S BACKYARD WERE PROBABLY PUT THERE BY THE SHITTY OF TULSA (D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX), FOR REASONS THAT I WILL LEAVE UNNAMED. This is a free country, where people can live where they can afford. It would be really funny if your neighbors thought you were the CIA plant. > REALITY IS BOTH AN ILLUSION AND A DELUSION, SIMULTANEOUSLY; > (A DILLUSION). The Indians say this is all the Dance of Maya, and illusion. > I REJECT REALITY AS IT IS; OR AT LEAST; REJECT A LOT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE > PERCEIVE IT TO BE; BECAUSE REALITY IS MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT TOO; INCLUDING > THE VISUAL MEDIA: TELEVISION, AND NOT JUST THE RADIO ALONE, AND THE NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAGAZINES. But if we reject reality, we are have no basis for communication. And that's just for starters. People who reject a lot of reality make bad decisions and are thus labeled insane. People who reject just part of the implications of reality, and work to change what is, are considered leaders. Some are sane, some are insane. But mostly, the sane ones DO consider real what is real, and work off that. Now, we mad scientists may be more persistent in our attempts to change reality; but we do accept reality as we perceive it with our senses and our tools for augmenting those senses. We, more than anyone, insist that reality is real regardless of the opinions of others who have not personally witnessed it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 2 00:59:32 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:59:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Cats beware! Message-ID: <003d01c5af94$411c9520$d0c5bc41@mikey> It's a miracle: mice regrow hearts August 29, 2005 SCIENTISTS have created "miracle mice" that can regenerate amputated limbs or damaged vital organs, making them able to recover from injuries that would kill or permanently disable normal animals. The experimental animals are unique among mammals in their ability to regrow their heart, toes, joints and tail. And when cells from the test mouse are injected into ordinary mice, they too acquire the ability to regenerate, the US-based researchers say. Their discoveries raise the prospect that humans could one day be given the ability to regenerate lost or damaged organs, opening up a new era in medicine. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16417002%255E3 0417,00.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 2 02:15:19 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 2 02:15:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: The UN In-Reply-To: <20050902002053.74419.qmail@web51914.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003e01c5af9e$d723ac20$d0c5bc41@mikey> > From: Robert Juliano [mailto:rhjuliano@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:21 PM > >sigh< > 1.) you have made assertions that the UN is trying to > take overthe internet, yet you refuse to provide proof > (an excerpt would do.) in a debate, the burden of > proof is on the accuser (sp). I have provided citations. So here is a quote: "In that case, the global Internet has not been under strict syndicate administration at all. Therefore, it is really necessary that the global information society allied together to endeavor for the mutual Internet management. We are delighted to see that ITU is organizing the World Summit on the Information Society trying its efforts toward calling upon different national governments, industry sections, Internet stakeholders and non-governmental organizations to governing Internet together." Qian Hualin, to the UN. http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN016881.pdf I apologize if this is not satisfactory to you, and I see no reason to continue arguing well documented facts with you here. Continued discussion of this issue is pointless; it is an incontrovertible, well documented fact that the UN has attempted to wrest control of the Internet from ICANN. > 2.) the UN did korea, the congo, cypress, and a few > others. The UN Ancient history. Today's UN has a far different agenda. > 3.) you keep saying the UN is satanic. Okay, prove it. This would be futile. If you deny the existence of fact, then how should I argue my philosophy? > 3a.) from what little I've seen (the ruins of Rome, > the ruins of Spain via Savanarola, sections of Brazil, > etc.) Christianity doesn't have much to brag about. I'm sorry you feel that way. Islam has even less to brag about. I could go to great length detailing the differences between Christianity and Man's religion. But that is not germane to this discussion. I would be happy to discuss this issue with you in a separate thread. But I'll pray for your soul. > 4.) most redneck 'muricuns' would cheerfully sell > their ass to the first "UN combat team" that set foot > on shore. (By the way, are the UN combat group that > are storming our shores and taking our guns the same > ones that supposedly are ineffective and corrupt and > confused?) Wrong. They will surrender to the UN only after the UN takes their weapons from their cold, dead hands. > 5.) you want me bring it on? Okay, redneck-boy... So who is making the ad hominem attack now? Did I tweak your testosterone generators with my comments? Do you think you have to prove you're more of a man than I? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." > I'll be at United Fan Con, in Springfield, Mass. Like > most redneck compensatory barely latent hompophobes, I > expect you to make an attempt at a witty comment here, > and then not show up. Then you'll talk about how tough > you are. My wife is on the ALA list. She gets these > things called relevant postings from the ALA. They > list those situations, events, people, and products > that the librarians consider important. And you think I'm going to waste my time and money to travel there just to salve your male ego? Guess again. I will not be there. As for "latent homophobe," well, that's just more BS for me to ignore. Also, I do not question your wife's credentials, nor do I suggest that she fails to keep abreast of her profession. However, I do not have access to the ALA list presently, so I cannot say if they have or have not reported the UN's attempt to take control of the Internet. It is quite possible that the ALA list has simply ignored this issue, or that the relevant post was simply overlooked. Now if the FBI approaches your wife demanding her library records for every book that every patron has read, will she oblige them, or stand firm for her patrons' Constitutional rights? I see this as a quite serious issue today. > 5a.) Roman debate, or fists in the parking lot. Your > choice. Fisticuffs aren't my style. The debate, we can do that right here. Bob, you don't realize something about me. I may use "frothy invective," flamebait, etc., but I still respect logical argument from intelligent people, such as yourself. It's Plato's dialectic- from the conflicting opinions, Truth may be seen. I relish a heated discourse; from this I learn. I believe that we will eventually "agree to disagree" on the issue of the UN, and this is fine with me. However, I also believe that both of us, and possibly others, will learn something from our discourse. And that is the mark of a real man- the ability to respect those whom you disagree with. I may think that you are blind to what I see to be truth, but I respect your right to your opinion. But the UN still tried to take over the Internet! > 6.) I sent a mail order to the red cross for the folks > in the disaster zone. It was for 50 USD. Not much, But > is was something. What did you send? Well done! I thank you for your contribution, which is fifty dollars more than the UN has contributed. As for me, I contributed what money I could to the Salvation Army (I fear it was more like the widow's mite), and as a member of SATERN I have assisted with emergency radio communications with the disaster area. And I continue to donate my time and radio station to this effort, several hours every day. > Bob (looking forward to watching the southlands get > bulldozed away, and the muricuns placed in camps. > Also, looking forward to being a camp guard...) Be careful what you ask for, my friend- you might just receive it! -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 2 11:06:49 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:07:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: The UN In-Reply-To: <003e01c5af9e$d723ac20$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 02, 2005 05:15:19 AM Message-ID: <20050902180649.96763.qmail@mall-net.com> > > 1.) you have made assertions that the UN is trying to > > take overthe internet, yet you refuse to provide proof > > (an excerpt would do.) in a debate, the burden of > > proof is on the accuser (sp). > > > I have provided citations. > > So here is a quote: > > "In that case, the global Internet has not been under strict syndicate > administration at all. Therefore, it is really necessary that the global > information society allied together to endeavor for the mutual Internet ... > Qian Hualin, to the UN. > > http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN016881.= > pdf This was also on Google's News service some time ago. China and others are complaining bitterly that the USA does not censor its internet, allowing all kinds of pro democracy information to end up in nations which are totalitarian and wish to keep their population safely subjugated so as to avoid the excesses which they see in the democratic nations where sex, the sale of too many worthless things (consumerism), financial manipulations (capitalism and free market economics), religious extremism (choke) and the like are rampant. This, they believe is their fundamental right as nations. So the question before the UN is how to keep the people properly ignorant and subjugated to avoid revolutions of the kind they have seen in Africa. Exactly what that has to do with Africa, where the prevalence of PCs and internet connections is somewhat scarce, and the revolutionary blood letting precedes the invention of the PC, eludes most internet professionals... But the UN people, being the best of the best of the best from all nations (except the USA, England, Germany, etc.), must know of what they speak... After all, they say so, and they represent all the nations of the world equally. So the fundamental question, at least in my mind, is whether the UN is an organization of nations run for nations by nations, or whether it should be an organization of people run by people for the people of this world as "It's a small small world" purported to portray once upon a time... Having read of the types of nations at the UN, I am inclined to agree that most of them are Kleptocracies, and wish to help other kleptocracies steal everything that is not nailed down. Their allies appear to include many large corporations which routinely donate to the UN in effort to get them to favor their products and employment practices. I believe that all people of this world need to be given the fundamental right of choosing, repeatedly and on a regular schedule, their rulers without large scale violence. I do not believe the UN supports this as it would be too disruptive of their membership. > > 3a.) from what little I've seen (the ruins of Rome, > > the ruins of Spain via Savanarola, sections of Brazil, > > etc.) Christianity doesn't have much to brag about. > > I'm sorry you feel that way. Islam has even less to brag about. No religion, taken to excess, has much to brag about unless they are into counting their enemy's skulls decaying on the ground. > > 5.) you want me bring it on? Okay, redneck-boy... Although Mike does hail from the South, I have not see the required car or pickup truck up on cinderblocks in his yard. Also contradicting this redneck status would be his extensive education and work as a consultant to various corporations, some of which consider him the best research chemist around! His mathematical treatment of multivariate problems sends many with mere college math backgrounds reeling. That's hardly what you'd expect of a redneck. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 11:49:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:49:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART ONE). Message-ID: <20050902184919.41255.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART ONE): 1. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 2. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 3. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. 4. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRY. 5. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 6. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 7. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 8. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRY. 9. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. 10. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 11. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 12. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 13. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 14. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE GOVERNMENT. 15. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE GOVERNMENT. 16. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 17. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 18. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 19. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 20. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 21. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 22. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 23. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 24. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 25. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 26. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 27. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 28. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 29. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 30. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. 31. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. 32. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. 33. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 34. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. 35. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 36. GAYS IN THE BOY SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 37. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BOY SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 38. LESBIANS IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 39. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 40. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN SECRET SOCIETIES. 41. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN SECRET SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS. 42. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN SECRET SOCIETIES. 43. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN SECRET SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS. 44. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN RELIGIONS. 45. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN RELIGIONS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/f0cff98e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 11:49:28 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:49:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO). Message-ID: <20050902184929.98755.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO): 1. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 2. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. 3. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRY. 4. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 5. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 6. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. 7. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 8. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 9. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GOVERNMENT. 10. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 11. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 12. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 13. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 14. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 15. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 16. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 17. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 18. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. 19. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 20. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BOY SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 21. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 22. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETIES. 23. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS. 24. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN RELIGIONS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/789f792b/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 2 12:11:50 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:11:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: The UN In-Reply-To: <20050902180649.96763.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <008401c5aff2$2cbda660$d0c5bc41@mikey> > From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com] > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:07 PM > > > 5.) you want me bring it on? Okay, redneck-boy... > Although Mike does hail from the South, I have not see the required > car or pickup truck up on cinderblocks in his yard. Oh, I'm a high-tech redneck! My computer is worth far more than my old car! And I do have a Bush car in the backyard- I have to trim the bush to get to it! -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 2 13:07:43 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:07:54 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Rebuilding New Orleans Message-ID: <008601c5aff9$fb67d290$d0c5bc41@mikey> September 2, 2005, _The New York Times_ They Saw It Coming By MARK FISCHETTI Lenox, Mass. THE deaths caused by Hurricane Katrina are heart-rending. The suffering of survivors is wrenching. Property destruction is shocking. But perhaps the most agonizing part is that much of what happened in New Orleans this week might have been avoided. Watching the TV images of the storm approaching the Mississippi Delta on Sunday, I was sick to my stomach. Not only because I knew the hell it could unleash (I wrote an article for Scientific American in 2001 that described the very situation that was unfolding) but because I knew that a large-scale engineering plan called Coast 2050 - developed in 1998 by scientists, Army engineers, metropolitan planners and Louisiana officials - might have helped save the city, but had gone unrealized. The debate over New Orleans's vulnerability to hurricanes has raged for a century. By the late 1990's, scientists at Louisiana State University and the University of New Orleans had perfected computer models showing exactly how a sea surge would overwhelm the levee system, and had recommended a set of solutions. The Army Corps of Engineers, which built the levees, had proposed different projects. Yet some scientists reflexively disregarded practical considerations pointed out by the Army engineers; more often, the engineers scoffed at scientific studies indicating that the basic facts of geology and hydrology meant that significant design changes were needed. Meanwhile, local politicians lobbied Congress for financing for myriad special interest groups, from oil companies to oyster farmers. Congress did not hear a unified voice, making it easier to turn a deaf ear. Fed up with the splintered efforts, Len Bahr, then the head of the Louisiana Governor's Office of Coastal Activities, somehow dragged all the parties to one table in 1998 and got them to agree on a coordinated solution: Coast 2050. Completing every recommended project over a decade or more would have cost an estimated $14 billion, so Louisiana turned to the federal government. While this may seem an astronomical sum, it isn't in terms of large public works; in 2000 Congress began a $7 billion engineering program to refresh the dying Florida Everglades. But Congress had other priorities, Louisiana politicians had other priorities, and the magic moment of consensus was lost. What can we do to restore these natural protections? Although the parties that devised Coast 2050, and other independent scientists and engineers who have floated rival plans, may disagree on details, they do concur on several major initiatives that would shield New Orleans, reconstitute the delta and, as a side benefit, improve ports and shipping lanes for the oil and natural gas industries in the Gulf of Mexico. Cut several channels in the levees on the Mississippi River's southern bank (the side that doesn't abut the city) and secure them with powerful floodgates that could be opened at certain times of the year to allow sediment and freshwater to flow down into the delta, re-establishing it. Build a new navigation channel from the Gulf into the Mississippi, about 40 miles south of New Orleans, so ships don't have to enter the river at its three southernmost tips 30 miles further away. For decades the corps has dredged shipping channels along those final miles to keep them navigable, creating underwater chutes that propel river sediment out into the deep ocean. The dredging could then be stopped, the river mouth would fill in naturally, and sediment would again spill to the barrier islands, lengthening and widening them. Some planners also propose a modern port at the new access point that would replace those along the river that are too shallow to handle the huge new ships now being built worldwide. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/opinion/02fischetti.html?th&emc=th From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Sep 2 15:54:05 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:54:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART ONE). Message-ID: <1c7.2ff8ea6a.304a320d@aol.com> In a message dated 9/2/2005 2:49:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART ONE): 1. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 2. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 3. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. 4. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRY. 5. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 6. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 7. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 8. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION INDUSTRY. 9. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. 10. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 11. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 12. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 13. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 14. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE GOVERNMENT. 15. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE GOVERNMENT. 16. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 17. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 18. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 19. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 20. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 21. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 22. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 23. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 24. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 25. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 26. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 27. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 28. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 29. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 30. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. 31. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. 32. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. 33. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 34. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. 35. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. 36. GAYS IN THE BOY SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 37. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE BOY SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 38. LESBIANS IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 39. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ORGANIZATION(S). 40. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN SECRET SOCIETIES. 41. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN SECRET SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS. 42. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN SECRET SOCIETIES. 43. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN SECRET SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS. 44. GAYS AND LESBIANS IN RELIGIONS. 45. SEXUAL DEVIANTS IN RELIGIONS. __________________________________________________ Yes Clyde, you are correct, no argument here. Ask any woman family or friend and you will be told that from the time they were walking, family protected them, the best they could. Somewhere after 4 years old a female was no longer encouraged to sit in laps of male family or friends. About that time fathers no longer bathed their daughters. Girls no longer slept with male family members unless a female was present. Female children at this time began to wear tops on bathing suites, and when dressed in dresses or skirts were not allowed to allow the skirts to ride up or sit as boys do with legs splayed out. Males at that age are apt to hang onto their manhood at embarrassing times. It is an unconscious act, one that may go into adulthood. (Some do, some don't. ) Male children are almost forced to have physical contact with other males, the contact sports, male family members will wrestle, with a boy, hands on body things that females just don't do. Later as the boys grow into men, there is the horse play, the slaps to the butt, hugs at appropriate times. This is all normal and to be accepted. The Problem in our society is that Boys are not raised to think as females do. Males must as children learn the things to beware of. When a girl is raped, because of society, and family being so careful of her, they recover at a slow rate. But they know that this is act is not unheard of. Males of any age never completely recover, they were never prepared as females are and the experience is disaster to them. So, what is a sexual deviant ? Not the people who pray on children, these are the people who are too sick to be saved. Shoot them all, I say. End that gene pool now !!!!! Are hyper-sexed men deviant, depends on if they answering the call of nature or using the urge to dominate. How about adults deciding to co-habitat with someone of the same sex ????? This is America, is it wrong to have a same sex room mate, is it wrong to grow to love that person ???? Far as sex goes, none of my damn business or yours or your Aunt Matildas. What is a deviate, someone who goes against the norm, right ??? What is the norm, sex on Friday night with wife, same as frank and bean night ?? If you don't have a wife on Friday night to have sex with, what do you do ?? Masterbate ?? Are you a deviate if you masterbate??? Females go into adulthood warned about rape. They get so much knowledge on the fact that from the time they listen to radio ,t.v. or can read the paper, rape is something very possible ,not something they cannot understand or alien to their mind set. Boys and young men on the other hand never think of rape as anything but what happens to woman and girls. The Men and Boys I have met who were abused by the Church went on, somehow, married and had children, yet they were damaged big time. Not only were they *ucked by society who did not believe them, they were *ucked by their own family who placed the church above their own children. Hard as it is for you to think of, there are worse things that can happen to you. Everyone who is born on this planet has a story of , fear, mental fear, body harm and fear for others they love. Clyde, we are humane, we all have our so called deviant behavior that could well raise the neighbors eye brows. I will bet there are 2 or more things YOU do when no one is looking that would make an 85 year old man swoon. Take a break from the sex problems that bother you, you have not experienced anything that has not been going on from the history time line of 5000 b.c. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/691cf787/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 18:36:37 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:36:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GOOD ARTICLE. In-Reply-To: <008601c5aff9$fb67d290$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050903013637.23305.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> GOOD ARTICLE! CLYDE Michael Best wrote: September 2, 2005, _The New York Times_ They Saw It Coming By MARK FISCHETTI Lenox, Mass. THE deaths caused by Hurricane Katrina are heart-rending. The suffering of survivors is wrenching. Property destruction is shocking. But perhaps the most agonizing part is that much of what happened in New Orleans this week might have been avoided. Watching the TV images of the storm approaching the Mississippi Delta on Sunday, I was sick to my stomach. Not only because I knew the hell it could unleash (I wrote an article for Scientific American in 2001 that described the very situation that was unfolding) but because I knew that a large-scale engineering plan called Coast 2050 - developed in 1998 by scientists, Army engineers, metropolitan planners and Louisiana officials - might have helped save the city, but had gone unrealized. The debate over New Orleans's vulnerability to hurricanes has raged for a century. By the late 1990's, scientists at Louisiana State University and the University of New Orleans had perfected computer models showing exactly how a sea surge would overwhelm the levee system, and had recommended a set of solutions. The Army Corps of Engineers, which built the levees, had proposed different projects. Yet some scientists reflexively disregarded practical considerations pointed out by the Army engineers; more often, the engineers scoffed at scientific studies indicating that the basic facts of geology and hydrology meant that significant design changes were needed. Meanwhile, local politicians lobbied Congress for financing for myriad special interest groups, from oil companies to oyster farmers. Congress did not hear a unified voice, making it easier to turn a deaf ear. Fed up with the splintered efforts, Len Bahr, then the head of the Louisiana Governor's Office of Coastal Activities, somehow dragged all the parties to one table in 1998 and got them to agree on a coordinated solution: Coast 2050. Completing every recommended project over a decade or more would have cost an estimated $14 billion, so Louisiana turned to the federal government. While this may seem an astronomical sum, it isn't in terms of large public works; in 2000 Congress began a $7 billion engineering program to refresh the dying Florida Everglades. But Congress had other priorities, Louisiana politicians had other priorities, and the magic moment of consensus was lost. What can we do to restore these natural protections? Although the parties that devised Coast 2050, and other independent scientists and engineers who have floated rival plans, may disagree on details, they do concur on several major initiatives that would shield New Orleans, reconstitute the delta and, as a side benefit, improve ports and shipping lanes for the oil and natural gas industries in the Gulf of Mexico. Cut several channels in the levees on the Mississippi River's southern bank (the side that doesn't abut the city) and secure them with powerful floodgates that could be opened at certain times of the year to allow sediment and freshwater to flow down into the delta, re-establishing it. Build a new navigation channel from the Gulf into the Mississippi, about 40 miles south of New Orleans, so ships don't have to enter the river at its three southernmost tips 30 miles further away. For decades the corps has dredged shipping channels along those final miles to keep them navigable, creating underwater chutes that propel river sediment out into the deep ocean. The dredging could then be stopped, the river mouth would fill in naturally, and sediment would again spill to the barrier islands, lengthening and widening them. Some planners also propose a modern port at the new access point that would replace those along the river that are too shallow to handle the huge new ships now being built worldwide. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/opinion/02fischetti.html?th&emc=th _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/b9fd830e/attachment-0001.html From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 18:42:38 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:42:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050902184929.98755.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050903014238.34760.qmail@web51902.mail.yahoo.com> Clyde, I there a point that you are trying to make? I have no problem with gays, lesbians, and transgendered folks in our society. May I ask why you care? Bob --- clyde lofton wrote: > > > THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO): > > > 1. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 2. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. > > 3. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INDUSTRY. > > 4. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > 5. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. > > 6. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. > > 7. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. > > 8. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 9. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GOVERNMENT. > > 10. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 11. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. > > 12. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 13. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PHARMACOLOGY > INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 14. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 15. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL > INFRASTRUCTURE. > > 16. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROCHEMICAL > INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 17. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 18. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > INDUSTRY. > > 19. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > 20. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BOY SCOUTS > ORGANIZATION(S). > > 21. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GIRL SCOUTS > ORGANIZATION(S). > > 22. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETIES. > > 23. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETY > ORGANIZATIONS. > > 24. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN RELIGIONS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 2 19:25:05 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 2 19:25:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Proud to be a redneck! Message-ID: <00a601c5b02e$b354caf0$d0c5bc41@mikey> We Suthern Rednecks love our food! Remember the history of Southern cuisine- it is a melding of English, French, Spanish, and African influences, with regional variations. Few dishes can compare with a plate piled high with hog jowl, collards, and corn pone! Okra fried in pork fat RULES! And Texas chili! Oh, man- that is to die for! And I nominate Kofi Amman to be the third chili judge this year! -MB Texas Chili Contest If you can read this whole story without laughing then there's no hope for you. I was crying by the end. Note: Please take time to read this slowly. If you pay attention to the first two judges, the reaction of the third judge is even better. For those of you who have lived in Texas, you know how true this is. There is actually a Chili Cook-off about the time Halloween comes around. It takes up a major portion of a parking lot at the San Antonio City Park. Judge #3 was an inexperienced Chili taster named Frank, who was visiting from Springfield, IL. Frank: "Recently, I was honored to be selected as a judge at a chili cook-off. The original person called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking for directions to the Coors Light truck, when the call came in. I was assured by the other two judges (Native Texans) that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy and, besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted". Here are the scorecard notes from the event: CHILI # 1 - MIKE'S MANIAC MONSTER CHILI... Judge # 1 -- A little too heavy on the tomato. Amusing kick. Judge # 2 -- Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild. Judge # 3 (Frank) -- Holy cow, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took me two beers to put the flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy. CHILI # 2 - AUSTIN'S AFTERBURNER CHILI... Judge # 1 -- Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang. Judge # 2 -- Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously. Judge # 3 -- Keep this out of the reach of children. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who hurried over to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to rush in more beer?when they saw the look on my face. CHILI # 3 - FRED'S FAMOUS BURN DOWN THE BARN CHILI... Judge # 1 -- Excellent firehouse chili. Great kick. Judge # 2 -- A bit salty, good use of peppers. Judge # 3 -- Call the EPA. I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now. Get me more beer before I ignite. Barmaid pounded me on the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting s**t-faced from all of this beer. CHILI # 4 - BUBBA'S BLACK MAGIC... Judge # 1 -- Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing. Judge # 2 -- Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili. Judge # 3 -- I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it. Is it possible to burn out taste buds? Sally, the beermaid, was standing behind me with fresh refills. That 300-LB woman is starting to look HOT...just like this nuclear waste I'm eating! Is chili an aphrodisiac? CHILI # 5 LISA'S LEGAL LIP REMOVER... Judge # 1 -- Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick. Very impressive. Judge # 2 -- Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. Judge # 3 -- My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead and I can no longer focus my eyes. I broke wind and four people behind me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from the pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my lips off. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to?stop screaming. Screw those rednecks. CHILI # 6 - VERA'S VERY VEGETARIAN VARIETY... Judge # 1 -- Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spices and peppers. Judge # 2 -- The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb. Judge # 3 -- My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous, sulfuric flames. I crapped on myself when I passed gas and I'm worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that Sally. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe my butt with a snow cone. CHILI # 7 - SUSAN'S SCREAMING SENSATION CHILI... Judge # 1 -- A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers. Judge # 2 -- Ho hum, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chili peppers at the last moment. I should take note that I am worried about Judge # 3. He appears to be in a bit of distress and he is cursing uncontrollably. Judge # 3 -- You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I wouldn't feel a thing. I've lost sight in one eye, and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava to match my shirt. At least during the autopsy, they'll know what killed me. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful. Screw it; I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just suck it in through the 4-inch hole in my stomach. CHILI # 8 - BIG TOM'S TOENAIL CURLING CHILI... Judge # 1 -- The perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili. Not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence. Judge # 2 -- This final entry is a good, balanced chili. Neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge #3 farted, passed out, fell over and pulled the chili pot down on top of himself. Not sure if he's going to make it. poor feller, wonder how he'd have reacted to really hot chili? Judge # 3 - No Report From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 20:24:45 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 2 20:25:20 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903014238.34760.qmail@web51902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050903032445.49221.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote: Clyde, Is there a point that you are trying to make? YES; MAINLY IN THE ENERGY, FINANCIAL, AND PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES. I DO NOT LIKE THEM FORCING IMMORALITY UPON PEOPLE, INCLUDING UPON MYSELF; WITH ALL OF THE SMUT THAT PERVADES THE INTERNET, AND ALL OF THE CEASELESS GARBAGE, BROADCAST ON THE MAINSTREAM AIRWAVES; INCLUDING COMMERCIALISM CRAP OVERKILL. I have no problem with gays, lesbians, and transgendered folks in our society. WHAT ABOUT DEVIANT TEENS, AND UNDERAGE SEX? May I ask why you care? YES. I WAS ABUSED IN MY YOUTH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I KNOW WHAT TEMPTATIONS OTHERS OUT THERE FACE, AT LOOKING AT, AND GETTING ADDICTED TO; INTERNET PORN. CHASTITY AND ANTISEXUALITY HAVE BECOME MAJOR CONCERNS TO ME. THE WORLD WILL MOST PROBABLY CONTINUE IN ITS EVIL WAYS: 'FOREVER', BUT I IMAGINE THAT THERE SHOULD BE WIDESPREAD AND PEACEFUL PERMANENT SOLUTIONS TO ALL OF THE MAINSTREAM SHIT SO-CALLED TREATMENT, PRESENTLY OUT THERE, IN THE COMMERCIALISM INTRAFUCKTURE(S). HOPE WHAT I HAVE TYPED ABOVE, MAKES SENSE. I'M TIRED RIGHT NOW, AFTER WORK TODAY. CLYDE Bob --- clyde lofton wrote: > > > THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO): > > > 1. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 2. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. > > 3. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INDUSTRY. > > 4. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > 5. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. > > 6. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. > > 7. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. > > 8. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 9. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GOVERNMENT. > > 10. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 11. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. > > 12. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 13. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PHARMACOLOGY > INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 14. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 15. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL > INFRASTRUCTURE. > > 16. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROCHEMICAL > INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 17. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL > COMPLEX. > > 18. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > INDUSTRY. > > 19. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > 20. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BOY SCOUTS > ORGANIZATION(S). > > 21. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GIRL SCOUTS > ORGANIZATION(S). > > 22. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETIES. > > 23. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETY > ORGANIZATIONS. > > 24. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN RELIGIONS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/9c3f5ad7/attachment.html From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 20:36:20 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Fri Sep 2 20:36:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903032445.49221.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050903033620.97697.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> Clyde, I wish I could stop kids getting abused. An old creep tried for me when I was 12. I recovered, but I'm still twitchy. I'm not sure that just stopping internet porn would stop the abusers. This is one of the paper topics I'm working on (slowly, as the whole topic depresses and enrages me to the point of berserk.) While it has taken me a long time to get through a lot of the sociological material, I do promise to finish the paper, and then publish it here. I'm not sure if there has actually been an increase of undersex sex, as oppsed to an increase in the reporting of underage sex. As to the forcing of smut upon people... 1.) they tend to put onto the media streams those things that people want to pay for. 2.) if you don't like it, change the channel. 3.) watching porn by oneself sound kind of lonely. watching porn with a few "close friends" (and perhaps a spot of brandy in the hot chocolate) sounds like fun. Bob --- clyde lofton wrote: > > > Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > Clyde, > > Is there a point that you are trying to make? > > YES; MAINLY IN THE ENERGY, FINANCIAL, AND > PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES. > > I DO NOT LIKE THEM FORCING IMMORALITY UPON PEOPLE, > INCLUDING UPON MYSELF; WITH ALL OF THE SMUT THAT > PERVADES THE INTERNET, AND ALL OF THE CEASELESS > GARBAGE, BROADCAST ON THE MAINSTREAM AIRWAVES; > INCLUDING COMMERCIALISM CRAP OVERKILL. > > I have no problem with gays, lesbians, and > transgendered folks in our society. > > WHAT ABOUT DEVIANT TEENS, AND UNDERAGE SEX? > > May I ask why you care? > > YES. > > I WAS ABUSED IN MY YOUTH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I > KNOW WHAT TEMPTATIONS OTHERS OUT THERE FACE, AT > LOOKING AT, AND GETTING ADDICTED TO; INTERNET PORN. > > CHASTITY AND ANTISEXUALITY HAVE BECOME MAJOR > CONCERNS TO ME. > > THE WORLD WILL MOST PROBABLY CONTINUE IN ITS EVIL > WAYS: 'FOREVER', BUT I IMAGINE THAT THERE SHOULD BE > WIDESPREAD AND PEACEFUL PERMANENT SOLUTIONS TO ALL > OF THE MAINSTREAM SHIT SO-CALLED TREATMENT, > PRESENTLY OUT THERE, IN THE COMMERCIALISM > INTRAFUCKTURE(S). > > HOPE WHAT I HAVE TYPED ABOVE, MAKES SENSE. > > I'M TIRED RIGHT NOW, AFTER WORK TODAY. > > CLYDE > > Bob > > --- clyde lofton wrote: > > > > > > > THE MORAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA; (PART TWO): > > > > > > 1. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 2. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. > > > > 3. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > > GENERATION INDUSTRY. > > > > 4. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > > GENERATION INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > > > 5. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER > > GENERATION INFRASTRUCTURE. > > > > 6. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. > > > > 7. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. > > > > 8. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BROADCAST INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 9. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GOVERNMENT. > > > > 10. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE > INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 11. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE > INDUSTRIES. > > > > 12. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 13. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PHARMACOLOGY > > INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 14. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 15. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE FINANCIAL > > INFRASTRUCTURE. > > > > 16. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROCHEMICAL > > INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 17. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL > > COMPLEX. > > > > 18. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > > INDUSTRY. > > > > 19. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS > > INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. > > > > 20. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE BOY SCOUTS > > ORGANIZATION(S). > > > > 21. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN THE GIRL SCOUTS > > ORGANIZATION(S). > > > > 22. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETIES. > > > > 23. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN SECRET SOCIETY > > ORGANIZATIONS. > > > > 24. MORALITY HYPOCRISY IN RELIGIONS. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 2 21:09:27 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 2 21:09:31 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050902075916.90037.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050903040927.64870.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS SHITHOLE SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD ARE > AS NOSY AS HELL, THE TELEPHONE LINE IS TAPPED BY CALEA, MY E-MAILS > ARE PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY BEING MONITORED, AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES (B.P.L.) IS MORE THAN LIKELY BEING USED AGAINST ME; THE FUCKING POLICE STATE HELICOPTER FLIES OVER THE HOUSE AT NIGHT TIME WHEN I WALK AROUND OUTSIDE, DUE TO THE NETWORKED INSECURITY SYSTEM OF THIS BROKEN > HOME. This is likely paranoid thinking. WELL; I HAVE BEEN PARANOID; BUT NOT CONTINUOUSLY. DURING THE TIME OF WHAT I TYPED ABOVE, I WAS NOT PARANOID. THOUGH I WAS ANGRY. None of us is really important enough to warrant police investigation. And what are they going to find anyway? A bunch of science books? HALF ASSED SCIENCE PROJECTS, AND HALF ASSED TECHNOLOGY; DUE TO INSUFFICIENT FUNDS; EQUALLING INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES; EQUALLING IMPERFECTNESS AND INCOMPLETNESS.. As to the police helicopter, they fly over a lot of places. THE POLICE HELICOPTER / HELICOPTERS WERE FLYING OVER THIS RESI-DUNCE-IAL AREA, BECAUSE OF THE ASSHOLE NEIGHBORS, MORE THAN LIKELY CALLING THE POLICE, TRYING TO GET THEM TO BELEIVE THAT MY ACTIONS HAVE BEEN UP TO NO GOOD. ALL I WANT TO DO, IS TO LIVE LIFE, AND TO BE AT PEACE, WITHOUT CONSISTANT HARRASSMENT BY THE JERK NEIGHBORS, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB. So what? WELL YEAH; SO WHAT! THEY LIKE TO HARRASS PEOPLE AS PART OF THEIR JOBS. I ALSO SUSPECT MILITARY SPYPLANES THAT ALSO FLY OVERHEAD, ATTEMPTING TO KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT MINIMAL PROGRESS THAT I CAN BARELY MAKE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IT ISN'T PARANOIA THAT I FEEL; IT IS ANGER THAT I FEEL, TOWARD THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNISM-PLEX, OF THIS SHITTY'S (CITY'S) FOREVER HALF ASSED, CRAP AIRPORT, AND THEIR PRYING INTO PRIVATE CIVILIAN'S AFFAIRS. We see them here from time to time. Military helicopters too. And some of those military helicopters, when inspected with binoculars, turn out to be TV helicopters, like KGO (not KGB, which is probably another radio station.) > THE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF ME ARE ASSHOLES, AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE A BACKYARD THAT BACKS UP AGAINST THIS HOUSE'S BACKYARD WERE PROBABLY PUT THERE BY THE SHITTY OF TULSA (D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX), *LET ME MAKE CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE WORDING, THAT I HAVE IN PARENTHESIS: (THE TULSA D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX AND THE TULSA HOUSING AND (SLUM-)URBAN DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* FOR REASONS THAT I WILL LEAVE UNNAMED. This is a free country, where people can live where they can afford. It would be really funny if your neighbors thought you were the CIA plant. ACTUALLY I AM; AND THEY WILL BE BUSTED VERY SHORTLY, FOR BOTH SUSPICION OF POSSESION OF ILLEGAL DRUGS, AND FROM COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS, OF PLAYING MUSIC TOO LOUD THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TIME, ALL NIGHT LONG, FOR AT LEAST TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW. > REALITY IS BOTH AN ILLUSION AND A DELUSION, SIMULTANEOUSLY; > (A DILLUSION). The Indians say this is all the Dance of Maya, and illusion. INTERESTING! > I REJECT REALITY AS IT IS; OR AT LEAST; REJECT A LOT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE > PERCEIVE IT TO BE; BECAUSE REALITY IS MOSTLY FULL OF SHIT TOO; INCLUDING > THE VISUAL MEDIA: TELEVISION, AND NOT JUST THE RADIO ALONE, AND THE NEWSPAPERS, AND THE MAGAZINES. But if we reject reality, we are have no basis for communication. And that's just for starters. People who reject a lot of reality make bad decisions and are thus labeled insane. OKAY THEN; WELL REJECTION OF REALITY WOULD NOT BE A WISE DECISION THEN. People who reject just part of the implications of reality, and work to change what is, are considered leaders. WELL THAT IS FINE; I DO REJECT A LOT OF REALITY, BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS FULL OF CEASELESS SENSELESS, NEVERENDING NONSENSE. Some are sane, some are insane. But mostly, the sane ones DO consider real what is real, and work off that. Now, we mad scientists may be more persistent in our attempts to change reality; but we do accept reality as we perceive it with our senses and our tools for augmenting those senses. We, more than anyone, insist that reality is real regardless of the opinions of others who have not personally witnessed it. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS. AND A LOT OF OTHERS; NAMELY FAMILY MEMBERS, HAVE FORCED THEIR OPINIONS UPON MYSELF AND UPON MY LIFE, AGAINST MY WILL. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050902/f935df22/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 2 22:11:11 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 2 22:11:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903040927.64870.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 02, 2005 09:09:27 PM Message-ID: <20050903051111.27879.qmail@mall-net.com> > WELL; I HAVE BEEN PARANOID; BUT NOT CONTINUOUSLY. > DURING THE TIME OF WHAT I TYPED ABOVE, I WAS NOT PARANOID. > THOUGH I WAS ANGRY. And when you are angry, you assume that you are angry because things have gone wrong. You then look for whom to blame. First, blame is relative. Most things are not going to work out ok the first time. Just like playing a piano, your first few hundred attempts are going to be lousy. Do you blame yourself for being imperfect? If you do, you probably give up. The next few hundred are not going to be good, and some thousand or so just won't be great. But you take responsibility for not playing well, accept that it takes time, and keep practicing. If you practice long enough... and have the motor skills (which I probably don't), you will eventually play well enough to be considered a good piano player. It is the same with all of life, Clyde > None of us is really important enough to warrant police investigation. And what are they going to find anyway? A bunch of science books? > HALF ASSED SCIENCE PROJECTS, AND HALF ASSED TECHNOLOGY; DUE TO INSUFFICIENT FUNDS; EQUALLING INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES; EQUALLING IMPERFECTNESS AND INCOMPLETNESS.. Which they don't care about, because it's not a criminal matter! Police are only looking for criminals! Being a mad scientist, as long as you are not trying to blow up some part of the world, is not a crime. > As to the police helicopter, they fly over a lot of places. > THE POLICE HELICOPTER / HELICOPTERS WERE FLYING OVER THIS RESI-DUNCE-IAL AREA, BECAUSE OF THE ASSHOLE NEIGHBORS, MORE THAN LIKELY CALLING THE POLICE, TRYING TO GET THEM TO BELEIVE THAT MY ACTIONS HAVE BEEN UP TO NO GOOD. Again, you are rationalizing blame. When I lived in the city, I didn't mind the police, because I consider them doing things useful for me -- looking out for and removing criminal elements from my neighborhood. Sure, they stopped me from time to time and asked me some questions; but I had nothing to hide. I was polite with them, as they were just people doing their job, a rather dangerous one. And after I got to know some of them, I'd wave to them, and they would wave back, glad there was someone out there who appreciated them. > ALL I WANT TO DO, IS TO LIVE LIFE, AND TO BE AT PEACE, WITHOUT CONSISTANT HARRASSMENT BY THE JERK NEIGHBORS, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB. Are they yelling at you? Practicing Yodeling at 3am? Screaming at the moon drunk? Probably not. (One of my neighbors does. Another practices the electric whatever at 3am, with amplifier on high.) So how are they harassing you? > THEY LIKE TO HARRASS PEOPLE AS PART OF THEIR JOBS. Who, the police? No, that is not so. Only if you look suspicious, out of place, etc. Do you walk around stiff-legged like a drunk or drug zombie? Probably not. So why do you think they are after you? That's paranoid. (Actually, some level of paranoia is expected whenever adrenaline levels are high for some time. It becomes a kind of game. And over time, the boundaries between the game and reality blur a little... So don't play that game, Clyde. try to look for more rational reasons why things are happening.) > I ALSO SUSPECT MILITARY SPYPLANES THAT ALSO FLY OVERHEAD, ATTEMPTING TO KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT MINIMAL PROGRESS THAT I CAN BARELY MAKE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD. Delusional paranoia. Do you want paranoid thoughts to run you? > BUT IT ISN'T PARANOIA THAT I FEEL; IT IS ANGER THAT I FEEL, TOWARD THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNISM-PLEX, OF THIS SHITTY'S (CITY'S) FOREVER HALF ASSED, CRAP AIRPORT, AND THEIR PRYING INTO PRIVATE CIVILIAN'S AFFAIRS. Clyde, they have better things to do than try to run down folks who are into science. Trust me, science isn't illegal. Not even in the bible belt. Now, if you were creating crystal meth in your basement, or growing marijuana in your attic... or making a nuclear bomb in your bathtub, you'd have a reason to wonder if they were looking for you. But if you didn't have any co conspirators, chances are they'd never know! And chances are that you would be caught because you ACTED paranoid. > (THE TULSA D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX AND THE TULSA HOUSING AND (SLUM-)URBAN DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* Meaningless terms. If you think in terms of such labels, you are merely compounding your confusion. And as confusion rises, you become more likely to resort to paranoid shortcuts in thought. As others see that you are not thinking clearly, they find less basis to talk to you. (I've got a few nut cases in this neighborhood. I avoid them.) > This is a free country, where people can live where they can afford. > > It would be really funny if your neighbors thought you were the CIA > plant. > ACTUALLY I AM; AND THEY WILL BE BUSTED VERY SHORTLY, FOR BOTH SUSPICION OF POSSESION OF ILLEGAL DRUGS, AND FROM COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS, OF PLAYING MUSIC TOO LOUD THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TIME, ALL NIGHT LONG, FOR AT LEAST TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW. One can not be held for long on mere suspicion; though one can be investigated for reasonable suspicion. But you don't want a neighborhood snipe war. Those get all consuming till everyone loses. I read some books on such things. Fascinating, but they become a death spiral in which all your time and energy is consumed in hate doing nothing good. Everyone Loses! Time spent doing good things multiplies. > > I REJECT REALITY AS IT IS; OR AT LEAST; REJECT A LOT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE > But if we reject reality, we are have no basis for communication. > And that's just for starters. People who reject a lot of reality make > bad decisions and are thus labeled insane. > > OKAY THEN; WELL REJECTION OF REALITY WOULD NOT BE A WISE DECISION THEN. Correct. We can play with the implications; but facts are facts. If you get creative with goals for improving matters, you may get followers and actually improve life. Ever watch Jack Webb in Dragnet? "Just the facts, Ma'am." That's a lot of how police matters are still developed. Facts! Facts, evidence that has to stand up in court. The only thing that is different, is the communications. (Jack Webb was a police officer.) > People who reject just part of the implications of reality, and work to change what is, are considered leaders. > WELL THAT IS FINE; I DO REJECT A LOT OF REALITY, BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS FULL OF CEASELESS SENSELESS, NEVERENDING NONSENSE. > Some are sane, some are insane. But mostly, the sane ones DO consider real what is real, and work off that. > Now, we mad scientists may be more persistent in our attempts to > change reality; but we do accept reality as we perceive it with our > senses and our tools for augmenting those senses. We, more than anyone, > insist that reality is real regardless of the opinions of others who > have not personally witnessed it. > > A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS. Those are opinions, not facts. Opinions, you can ask about, why they believe the way they do. And from that, see if you can counter them, of if they make more sense than your opinions. > AND A LOT OF OTHERS; NAMELY FAMILY MEMBERS, HAVE FORCED THEIR OPINIONS UPON MYSELF AND UPON MY LIFE, AGAINST MY WILL. Are they threatening to kill you if you don't say you agree? Then you are entitled to your own opinions. Do note, however, that you have to be able to back up your opinions with preponderance of facts if you want them to be solid and believable. That's why we are so turned off when you post about conspiracies. There are no facts that can be assembled to prove those conspiracy theories; and plenty more to disprove them. So you have to base your opinions on real facts; not flimflam about how your city is a bad place. Your opinions shape you, Clyde. So you want the best, most reality based opinions you can have. That's what brings a person away from the paranoid rantings above, to an understanding of what is really going on, and why helicopters fly by you on occasion. I bet if you said hello to your neighbors, or waved at them when ever you were both outside, they would wave back. And over time, there would be less hate between you. You are not living in Bosnia, Clyde. Most people here are decent folks. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 2 23:21:53 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 2 23:21:57 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Getting Un-Crazy In-Reply-To: <20050903051111.27879.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 03, 2005 05:11:11 AM Message-ID: <20050903062153.65286.qmail@mall-net.com> Attitude... How does that song go... When the dog bites, When the bee stings, When I'm feeling sad, I simply remember my favorite things, And then I don't feel so bad. Clyde, if you want to get better, you need to reduce anger. To do that, you need to set aside a little bit of time each evening to remeber some good times, and think what made them good. This mental exercise is just as important to your life now, setting aside some time to practice playing a piano is if you want to become a good piano player. You have to teach your brain, lead your brain to thinking of better things so that you don't get mired down in the endless thoughts of why things are bad. You need to remember things that made you happy. And then, maybe try to do more of them, where appropriate. I could say many things worse about San Jose if I wanted to. It's so polluted that I can't go down here anymore without getting sick. That's why I am stuck in these mountains with really unfit Igors for neighbors. Why I spent nine months camping out here in a tent, before building this cabin. Do I call San Jose a slum? No, because it isn't. It's a vibrant technology city. I just can't go there; that does not mean others can't. What do I dream about? About things I did there, the successes, the people, the fun I had. I miss those things. But I don't blame the city for my health problems. Other people down there are healthy. You see, by thinking about the good things, I program my mind to do more of the good things, to see more opportunities to do the good things. Even if elsewhere. What does calling Tulsa a slumburb get you? Does it help you get more things done? See more opportunities? Encourage you to try harder? No. It is just convincing yourself that you can't succeed and justifying your "inability to play a piano perfectly in two lessons." No one can do that. Not even the greatest piano genius that ever lived! So take some time each evening to think about the good things you enjoyed, the things you want more of. It's like a kind of prayer, only you are praying to your own mind to open up and recognize the good parts of life. I like this song: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens; Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens; Brown paper packages tied up with strings; These are a few of my favorite things. Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels; Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles; Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings; These are a few of my favorite things. Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes; Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes; Silver-white winters that melt into springs; These are a few of my favorite things. When the dog bites, When the bee stings, When I'm feeling sad, I simply remember my favorite things, And then I don't feel so bad. Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote that music. It's good advice for living a healthy and reasonably happy life. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 04:46:58 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 3 04:47:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903051111.27879.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050903114659.9379.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > WELL; I HAVE BEEN PARANOID; BUT NOT CONTINUOUSLY. > DURING THE TIME OF WHAT I TYPED ABOVE, I WAS NOT PARANOID. > THOUGH I WAS ANGRY. > I ALSO SUSPECT MILITARY SPYPLANES THAT ALSO FLY OVERHEAD, ATTEMPTING TO KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT MINIMAL PROGRESS THAT I CAN BARELY MAKE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB NEIGHBORHOOD. Delusional paranoia. PARANAOIA. BUT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE USE OF THE WORD: DELUSIONAL BEFORE IT. Do you want paranoid thoughts to run you? NO. MONEY MATTERS THOUGH, MAKE ME PARANOID, BECAUSE OF MY PERFECTIONISM; MY PERFECTIONISM IS BOTH A BLESSING AND A CURSE AT THE SAME TIME. MONEY MATTERS MAKE ME A NERVOUS WRECK A LOT OF THE TIME. MORE MONEY IS NEVER ENOUGH; THERE IS ALWAYS NEVER ENOUGH, TOWARD THE FINALIZATION OF HANDS ON PROJECTS. > BUT IT ISN'T PARANOIA THAT I FEEL; IT IS ANGER THAT I FEEL, TOWARD THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMMUNISM-PLEX, OF THIS SHITTY'S (CITY'S) FOREVER HALF ASSED, CRAP AIRPORT, AND THEIR PRYING INTO PRIVATE CIVILIAN'S AFFAIRS. Clyde, they have better things to do than try to run down folks who are into science. THEY ARE NOT RUNNING ME DOWN, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE RUNNING ME DOWN. BUT I HAVE WRITTEN SO MUCH CONTROVERSIAL SHIT, VIA E-MAIL, IT CAUSES ME TO WONDER IF THEY COULD BE ATTEMPTING TO KEEP AN EYE ON ME, BECAUSE OF THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT ACT. Trust me, science isn't illegal. Not even in the bible belt. GOTTA GO FOR NOW. GOTTA GET READY FOR WORK. I'LL REPLY MORE LATER. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/6018b497/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 3 08:19:28 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 3 08:19:32 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More high-level corruption at the UN Message-ID: <00be01c5b09a$e0a2e070$d0c5bc41@mikey> Russian Held in Scheme to Launder U.N. Bribes By JULIA PRESTON Published: September 3, 2005, in _The New York Times_ A Russian diplomat who is the chairman of a United Nations budget watchdog committee has been indicted in New York on charges of conspiring to launder hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes, federal authorities announced yesterday. The diplomat, Vladimir Kuznetsov, was arrested Thursday evening by F.B.I. agents at a restaurant in the Riverdale section of the Bronx. He pleaded not guilty at his arraignment yesterday in Federal District Court in Manhattan. Mr. Kuznetsov has served since January 2004 as the chairman of the Advisory Committee on Administrative and Budgetary Questions, an autonomous agency of the General Assembly responsible for close oversight of spending by the United Nations. He received his salary and diplomatic immunity from the United Nations. At the request of the United States, Secretary General Kofi Annan waived immunity for Mr. Kuznetsov shortly before he was arrested, United States officials said. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/03/international/europe/03diplomat.html?th&em c=th or http://snipurl.com/hexv From texastjs at swbell.net Sat Sep 3 08:35:44 2005 From: texastjs at swbell.net (Tim) Date: Sat Sep 3 08:36:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking a Break Message-ID: <4319C2D0.7080603@swbell.net> RE: "Take a break from the sex problems that bother you, you have not experienced anything that has not been going on from the history time line of 5000 b.c. Regards Vesta" No one can decide to just "take a break" from trauma, I am surprised at that remark. There is very good evidence that child abuse of any kind scars the Hypothalmus, permanently affecting all hormonal/endocrine systems (HPA AXIS). This is perhaps why most abused persons find themselves ruminating on the abuse. There is an overwhelming hormonal response to physical and sexual trauma when youngsters are attacked. Those who haven't been assaulted find it puzzling when people who are dealing with these issues can't just "get over it." If you have "been there" maybe that strategy worked for you, good. If not-maybe keep that advice to yourself-or just share it with your most treasured friends who have been assaulted, perhaps they'll appreciate the sentiment. I do not-I was attacked by an old man-a neighbor, and trusted Grandfather figure-he got away with it. I speak from experience-it is just plain BS too-all that ridiculous blathering about how females get over this rape stuff better than men. HOW DO YOU KNOW-(this part is addressed to just the one who said that bit). I wish Clyde the best-pray for that person Clyde and forgive them-it will free you. The person does NOT rate your forgiveness-but that's not the point-it is freeing yourself that this does. I'm rooting for you Clyde-Best wishes Lisa R. Smith From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 3 08:57:29 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 3 08:57:39 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The similarity between health care and New Orleans Message-ID: <00c101c5b0a0$301b5240$d0c5bc41@mikey> The USA's health care system is broken, as most will agree. We pay more money, for fewer services, than Canada and the UK. New Orleans' levees are broken, and the city is an open wasteland. Medicare, government underwritten insurance, is responsible for the failing of our health care system. Federal Flood Insurance allowed the levees to break. Private underwriters desire to PREVENT claims, and spend their private monies to do this. Fire insurance companies fund fire stations. Auto insurance companies fund crash studies. But politicians give tax cuts and other largesse to win votes, allowing the sick to suffer, and the levees to break. It would have cost us $14 billion to prevent the present catastrophe in New Orleans- chump change in comparison to the present cost of reconstruction! But the Government played the odds, and lost. A private insurer would not have lost- they calculate the odds far better than any politician does. New Orleans is simply more evidence of the folly of trusting a central planning authority- whether that authority is the federal government, the UN, or the Supreme Soviet. -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 3 09:24:07 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 3 09:24:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Kutztown 13 follow-up Message-ID: <00c201c5b0a3$e8ac2200$d0c5bc41@mikey> Not the outcome I would prefer, these kids should be decorated, not persecuted. I wonder how many of the thirteen will now fear free communication and use of computers after being burned by an intolerant Police State Central Planning Authority. -MB 'Kutztown 13' hackers quietly offered deal >From eSchool News staff and wire service reports August 30, 2005 The case against the "Kutztown 13"--a group of Pennsylvania high school students charged with felonies for tinkering with their school-issued laptop computers--seems to be ending mostly with a whimper. In meetings with students over the last several days, the Berks County, Pa., juvenile probation office has quietly offered the students a deal in which all charges would be dropped in exchange for 15 hours of community service, a letter of apology, a class on personal responsibility, and a few months of probation. "The probation department realizes this is small potatoes," said William Bispels, an attorney representing nearly half the accused students. The 13 initially were charged with computer trespass and computer theft, both felonies, and could have faced a wide range of sanctions, including juvenile detention. http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/showstoryts.cfm?Articleid=5836&CFID=3398142& CFTOKEN=77559657 or http://snipurl.com/heyw From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 09:45:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 3 09:45:36 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE NONSENSE RHYME. Message-ID: <20050903164526.30037.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> THE NONSENSE RHYME: NONSENSE. NONSENSE. NEVER EVER ENDS. SPINS AROUND. SPINS AROUND. FOREVER AGAIN BEGINS. COPYRIGHT 2005, BY: CLYDE LOFTON __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/10f37a6c/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 3 09:59:52 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 10:00:02 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More high-level corruption at the UN In-Reply-To: <00be01c5b09a$e0a2e070$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 03, 2005 11:19:28 AM Message-ID: <20050903165952.36227.qmail@mall-net.com> > By JULIA PRESTON > Published: September 3, 2005, in _The New York Times_ > > A Russian diplomat who is the chairman of a United Nations budget = > watchdog > committee has been indicted in New York on charges of conspiring to = > launder > hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes, federal authorities = > announced yesterday. > United Nations. At the request of the United States, Secretary General = > Kofi > Annan waived immunity for Mr. Kuznetsov shortly before he was arrested, > United States officials said. How nice! I wonder why... Mr. K is lucky though, he could be serving in Russia, or some third world jail. -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- ----- Advice, Analysis, Strategies, Development ----- Serving the World for three generations, since 1933 ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 3 11:23:34 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 11:23:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking a Break In-Reply-To: <4319C2D0.7080603@swbell.net> from "Tim" at Sep 03, 2005 10:35:44 AM Message-ID: <20050903182335.84167.qmail@mall-net.com> > No one can decide to just "take a break" from trauma, I am surprised at t= > hat remark. There is very good evidence that child abuse of any kind scar= > s the Hypothalmus, permanently affecting all hormonal/endocrine systems (= > HPA AXIS). This is perhaps why most abused persons find themselves rumina= > ting on the abuse. There is an overwhelming hormonal response to physical= While all this is true, some recover to a surprising degree. Why? I think it because they take the effort to try to think about other things. The brain is plastic. It develops habits. You CAN make it develop new habits. One of those habits is to think of other things. I grew up among a bunch of World War II immigrants, people who had been shot at, fled their homes, been bombed over and over, saw people they cared about shot, blown up like rag dolls, etc. and ended up in a land where they didn't even know the language. That was the story of my parents and most of their friends. My father told the story of one man who walked into the lobby of the company he worked for, babbling in several foreign languages. The gentleman looked and acted like a diplomat; so they called my father as my father, being European, spoke several languages. I think the man had been a doctor from my father's homeland. He had spent some time in The Argentine after the war. When the politics there "started to get uncomfortably like Germany", they just picked themselves up and off they went to try someplace else. Imagine what went on in his mind. You fled with nothing but the shirt on your back. You are just getting established, learning the local language, then decide it's safer to drop everything and go to another nation where you don't have a clue how to communicate with the people. And then start walking into company after company, babbling, looking for work. But doing it all in a manner that makes you look like a dignified gentleman, a diplomat, not a needy idiot. The ones who built happy, open personalities were the ones who spent time doing interesting things, etc. Sometimes you'd see them kind of swerve into the darkness for a moment, then swerve away, throwing themselves at something interesting. The morose ones kept talking about the past. Some of them had to be dragged along life by those who cared about them, sometimes by those who's lives they had saved during the war. I remember one Christmas, visiting that gentleman. We were just sitting down for dinner after remembering not so good times, when out comes an Indian Raj blessing the table in Hindi! Where the hell are we??? It took almost a minute before we realized it was him, the image seemed so perfect. On the spur of the moment, he'd gone to the bathroom, put a mark on his forehead with his wife's lipstick, wrapped a towel around his head the right way, and almost swaggered out to bless the table! We all burst out laughing when we realized it was him! He was an incredible guy! On reflection, the image was not perfect; but that and the way he moved was good enough to totally disrupt our thinking! And incidently, to completely change the mood at the table; which was probably why he did it. It certainly worked. Years later, he had liver cancer, six months to live. He was active in the community and joking right to the end. He lived a damned good life despite circumstances that would have broken just about anyone. How? By looking forward and laughing at himself and the world. It's stories like that which prompted me, when I couldn't live in San Jose anymore for the air pollution and the arthritic pains of living by the sea got too bad, to go up into the mountains and pitch a tent. I wanted to see if it would be any better. It was. Lot of loss; but life goes on. You are still free to think about things you want to think about. Find things you WANT to think about, and make the effort to think about them whenever you get depressed. You ARE! You will live till you die. Why let the past rule you? Rule your own life by looking for opportunities, and laughing at your mistakes. You can fill your time with whatever you like, the bad past, or thoughts of a better future. Which gives you a better, happier life? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Sep 3 14:49:55 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 14:50:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] To Clyde and Lisa Message-ID: <54.4b9f4779.304b7483@aol.com> In a message dated 9/3/2005 11:36:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, texastjs@swbell.net writes: No one can decide to just "take a break" from trauma, I am surprised at that remark. There is very good evidence that child abuse of any kind scars the Hypothalmus, permanently affecting all hormonal/endocrine systems (HPA AXIS). This is perhaps why most abused persons find themselves ruminating on the abuse. There is an overwhelming hormonal response to physical and sexual trauma when youngsters are attacked. Those who haven't been assaulted find it puzzling when people who are dealing with these issues can't just "get over it." If you have "been there" maybe that strategy worked for you, good. If not-maybe keep that advice to yourself-or just share it with your most treasured friends who have been assaulted, perhaps they'll appreciate the sentiment. I do not-I was attacked by an old man-a neighbor, and trusted Grandfather figure-he got away with it. I speak from experience-it is just plain BS too-all that ridiculous blathering about how females get over this rape stuff better than men. HOW DO YOU KNOW-(this part is addressed to just the one who said that bit). I wish Clyde the best-pray for that person Clyde and forgive them-it will free you. The person does NOT rate your forgiveness-but that's not the point-it is freeing yourself that this does. I'm rooting for you Clyde-Best wishes Lisa R. Smith Oh Clyde and Lisa, I am so sorry for my foot (feet, both of them in mouth) This last week was to be a fun , well needed vacation. God decided different as I could not leave my home. Had I been at work, I would have gotten a break from the horror, however, since I was at home, I could not help myself from being glued to the t.v. watching this unending nightmare, too much to really take in. The phone rings off the hook, my community the Baha'i are moving heaven and earth to try to find some housing here in New Hampshire for the elderly and orphan children. We know there will be food and clothing sent by our churches but, the need for housing for those who cannot by age, or the very young , help themselves, this is in the next few months my task. . Clyde, I beg your forgiveness, I was wrong to jump on you with an attitude that is and was STUPID. Seeing this horror 24 hours a day,---- I fear I may well have told one of my own children ,had they told me they were to have a limb amputated, " Don't worry look at how lucky you are not to be like the thousands of people who must wander around in a daze, without food, water, housing, looking for dead children or parents" I am not a cold person, I am a humane who cannot comprehend the loss of such a number of people. I have never, ever before been an observer to this much suffering. I think perhaps it is that I am such a softy that this has sent my brain into such a muddle Also ,I think the news coverage that brings us watchers slam bang into the fray has left us who are anywhere else in this country in a state of trauma unlike anything we have yet to experience. Like the Gods of Rome, we look down helpless and shocked. Again, I am so sorry, especially since I too have had some experiences that I shall leave unspoken. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/0575b80a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 15:00:55 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 3 15:00:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Good oral and dental health weblinks. Message-ID: <20050903220055.41863.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Weblinks: 1. http://www.oragenics.com/ (I have sent the weblink of Oragenics in the past, but am including it here, again, with two new weblinks, pertaining to good oral and dental health.). 2. http://www.tomsofmaine.com (Makers of very good natural ingredient toothpaste; Available in several flavors.). 3. http://www.jason-natural.com (Makers of alternative mouthwash; Available in several flavors.). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/b2a5f7d8/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Sep 3 15:57:07 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 15:57:23 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking a Break Message-ID: <5b.7094b6b5.304b8443@aol.com> In a message dated 9/3/2005 2:24:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: You ARE! You will live till you die. Why let the past rule you? Rule your own life by looking for opportunities, and laughing at your mistakes. You can fill your time with whatever you like, the bad past, or thoughts of a better future. Which gives you a better, happier life I spent some time in my youth in a small town outside Exeter N.H The town had taken in 20 some familys who came from the Camps, extermination camps of Europe. The kids my age had parents who were different from mine. My Dad was a military man, Mom worked civil service. How were they different ??? Both of their parents had tattoos on their wrists. They had no grandparents, uncles or aunts that they knew were living. In their spare time the parents spent hours writing letters to everyone they could think of to try to find their older children, their sisters and brothers. What camp were they taken to, where were their graves, did anyone make it to America. What happened to the camp commanders, did they escape to South America, were the monsters here in America ? Where were their friends, people from their temple, their favorite Rabbis?????? How did my Mom and Dad spend their free time ? My folks spent time fishing off their boat, visiting their parents, aunts and uncles, brothers and sisters. They enjoyed family reunions, spending time with friends they had known for 25 years. My Mom had a hutch overflowing with knick-nacks handed down from 9 generations of her family. Books with pictures of family going back to the civil war, she did refuse to join the DAR when she found she was eligible because of the Ethel Waters fiasco in D.C. "GOOD MOMMY" Some of my friends had pictures on their house walls of the Holy Land, photos of family that were of late date, One friend had a picture of a bearded man that his Mom bought in New York, he said the photo reminded her of her father. Everything was new at their homes except for cast off furniture they bought that was so old it reminded them of their lost home. How were these familys alike ??????? In personality they were identical, the woman altho quiet at times were very up-beat with us kids The Men worked 18 hours a day but had this fun to be around attitude. There was little difference on the outside between my family and there's. It was years later that I wondered about the parents and what their dreams must have been like. As far as I know all these years later, the kids became successful, one girl became the first Girl-Doctor that I have known. Funny thing, both my grandpa and a few of the fathers of my friends had the same saying, it sounded funny in Yiddish but somehow I knew they were both saying the same thing. "I cried because I had no shoes, then I met a man with no feet " Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/7e3923bc/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 16:48:56 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 3 16:49:02 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903051111.27879.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050903234857.37490.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > AND A LOT OF OTHERS; NAMELY FAMILY MEMBERS, HAVE FORCED THEIR OPINIONS UPON MYSELF AND UPON MY LIFE, AGAINST MY WILL. Are they threatening to kill you if you don't say you agree? WELL; I HAVE BEEN THREATENED PHYSICAL HARM, FOR DISAGREEMENT WITH FAMILIAL NONSENSE; ESPECIALLY SINCE THE FAMILY ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE IS SO GOD DAMNED POLITICAL IN NATURE. Then you are entitled to your own opinions. I'VE SAID FOR SO LONG NOW, TO BOTH FRIENDS AND FAMILY, ABOUT HOW AMERICA NEEDS A TRANSITION TO EFFICIENT AND AFFORDABLE, ESOTERIC ENERGY ALTERNATIVES; BUT LITTLE DID I KNOW I THE PAST, THAT A TRANSITION TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY WOULD RESULT IN LOCAL, STATE, COUNTRY, AND GLOBAL ('CIVIL') WAR. I DON'T WANT ANY PART OF CIVIL WAR; EVEN IF IT MEANS THE TRANSITIONING INTO ESOTERIC ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES FOR THIS COUNTRY. I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING A FUTILE FIGHT, AGAINST THE GARGANTUAN ALL SEEING EYE OF SATAN SECRET SOCIETIES, BANKING INTRAFUCKTURE ESTABLISHMENT(S) / (F.T.C.), THE AUTOMOTIVE, ENERGY AND PHARMACOLOGY FUCKTATORSHIPS. Do note, however, that you have to be able to back up your opinions with preponderance of facts if you want them to be solid and believable. YES. That's why we are so turned off when you post about conspiracies. WHEN ZERO MONEY FLOWS, FOR HANDS ON PROJECTS-PROGRESSION, IT FORCES ME TO TURN TO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL AND CONSPIRATORIAL BULLSHIT. MOST OF ALL, I JUST NEED LASTING PEACE IN MY LIFE. ALTHOUGH HERE IS ANOTHER WEBLINK; IT ISN'T NECESSARILY ENTIRELY DEALING WITH CONSPIRATORIAL MATTERS, THOUGH IT DOES TO A CERTAIN EXTENT: http://familyguardian.betterthanyours.com/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Quotes/GeneralQuotes.htm There are no facts that can be assembled to prove those conspiracy theories; and plenty more to disprove them. SO BE IT! AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT, DUE THE TO LACKING OF OTHER TOPICS AT THE TIME, AND FROM LACK OF PERSONAL RESOURCES FOR FURTHERING MY HANDS ON PROJECTS ALONG. I PURCHASED MORE SILICONE R.T.V. THIS AFTERNOON; GETTING CLOSER TO COMPLETION OF THE E.M. B-WAVE ENT.-MENT EXPERIMENTAL HELMET MARK 1. 'BRAINWARPER: MARK 1'. So you have to base your opinions on real facts; not flimflam about how your city is a bad place. Your opinions shape you, Clyde. So you want the best, most reality based opinions you can have. That's what brings a person away from the paranoid rantings above, to an understanding of what is really going on, and why helicopters fly by you on occasion. I bet if you said hello to your neighbors, or waved at them when ever you were both outside, they would wave back. THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH OF THIS HOUSE DO NOT WANT TO BE FRIENDS. THEY HAVE MADE ENEMIES WITH OTHER NEIGHBORS AS WELL. THE BIKER THAT HAS A HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, KEEPS TO HIMSELF NOW. I RARELY HEAR HIM ANYMORE. I DO HEAR HIM FIRE UP HIS HARLEY EVERY SO OFTEN NOW THOUGH, BUT NOT MUCH ELSE. And over time, there would be less hate between you. I USED TO HAVE A LOT OF LOVE IN MY LIFE. MY LIFE NOW, IS MOSTLY HATE. You are not living in Bosnia, Clyde. Most people here are decent folks. NOT IN TULSA; TULSA IS A MOSTLY FOREVER MISERABLE TOWN. IF I HAD THE KNOWLEDGE, I WOULD HAVE MOVED OUT OF THIS INDUSTRIAL FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND, OF TULSA, A LONG TIME AGO, TO MOVE TO COLORFUL COLORADO, TO LIVE IN AN IDEAL LOCATION ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF COLORADO SPRINGS, OR ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF FORT COLLINS. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT I MOVE FURTHER NORTH, TO MONTANA. I PREFER COLORADO TO MONTANA, BEAUTY WISE, BUT MONTANA MIGHT BE A FREE'R STATE THAN COLORADO. OKLAHOMA IS A VERY UNFREE SHTATE. AND TULSA IS A VERY UNFREE SHITTY. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/46dc5765/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 3 17:11:18 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 3 17:11:23 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINK. In-Reply-To: <20050903234857.37490.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050904001119.80206.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> http://familyguardian.betterthanyours.com/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Quotes/GeneralQuotes.htm --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/ca431fd3/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Sep 3 17:26:50 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 17:27:00 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). Message-ID: <12b.649b5578.304b994a@aol.com> In a message dated 9/3/2005 7:49:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: WELL; I HAVE BEEN THREATENED PHYSICAL HARM, FOR DISAGREEMENT WITH FAMILIAL NONSENSE; ESPECIALLY SINCE THE FAMILY ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE IS SO GOD DAMNED POLITICAL IN NATURE If the truth is that ugly -- which it is -- then we do have to be careful about the way that we tell the truth. But to somehow say that telling the truth should be avoided because people may respond badly to the truth seems bizarre to me." --Chuck Skoro, Deacon, St. Paul's Catholic Church Thank you for the web link that this came from. Tell the truth as you see it Clyde. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/7f5cb28d/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 3 20:21:08 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 3 20:21:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Watching Message-ID: <00eb01c5b0ff$b1ba1ac0$d0c5bc41@mikey> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" -- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 "Ego ipse custudio custudiarum." -- MB, 1993 From Vesta111 at aol.com Sat Sep 3 20:48:19 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 20:48:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Watching Message-ID: <208.88d7630.304bc883@aol.com> In a message dated 9/3/2005 11:21:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mbest@triad.rr.com writes: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" -- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 "Ego ipse custudio custudiarum." -- MB, 1993 certe, toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse. canis timidus vehementious latrate quam mordet quid gul--d latine dictum sit, altum videtur------------regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050903/2d1e8d4a/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 3 21:05:43 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 3 21:05:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sure to tweak a few noses... Message-ID: <00ef01c5b105$ebe651e0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Where are all the alligators? That's what I want to know. All the alligators in the swamps and rivers of southeastern Louisiana, now provided an express route to downtown New Orleans via all those breached levees. There are lots of them. I've seen them myself, the times I've visited "The Big Easy" in recent years. Makes sense that they would have swum downtown by now, doesn't it? And the bodies. Where are all the bodies? You know, the "thousands" of people that the New Orleans Mayor says died during the recent hurricane. I haven't seen a single "floater," which is what rescue personnel call them, since the TV coverage of the aftermath began. Maybe the gators got them and tucked them up underneath submerged ledges and logs, in order to "ripen" them up to just the condition they like. Lack of coverage of alligators and dead bodies, alone, tells you just how censored and managed is the news for even a huge, breaking catastrophic event in America today. http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/rants/uneasy.htm From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 3 23:36:08 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 3 23:36:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Sure to tweak a few noses... In-Reply-To: <00ef01c5b105$ebe651e0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 04, 2005 12:05:43 AM Message-ID: <20050904063608.80050.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Where are all the alligators? That's what I want to know. All the > alligators in the swamps and rivers of southeastern Louisiana, now = > provided > an express route to downtown New Orleans via all those breached levees. Sorry, Mike; but those alligators don't know there are bodies floating for them to eat. They've been a bit beat up by the storm, some washed up the river, then down out to sea after the storm surge, etc. > There are lots of them. I've seen them myself, the times I've visited = > "The Big Easy" in recent years. Makes sense that they would have swum = > downtown by now, doesn't it? Nope. Their neighborhoods have been upset, their populations decimated, and they don't have easy access to street maps showing where dead folks are. Mostly, they are creatures of habit, and their habits don't include watching CNN to learn where the bodies are. > And the bodies. Where are all the bodies? You know, the "thousands" of > people that the New Orleans Mayor says died during the recent hurricane. = Well, I've heard reports of a few bullet riddled corpses; but basically, most of the bodies are probably trapped in the attics of homes and in sunken vehicles. > Lack of coverage of alligators and dead bodies, alone, tells you just = > how > censored and managed is the news for even a huge, breaking catastrophic > event in America today. I don't think so. I think it takes some time for the alligators to run out of drowned swamp rats, deer, etc. which are probably abundant in their natural domains. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 4 07:37:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 4 07:37:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interesting site Message-ID: <011801c5b15e$3d118e10$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.only1egg-productions.org/AltScience/Electrogravity/LifterPage.htm or http://snipurl.com/hfhc Replication Of The Original T.T. Brown Electrokinetic Apparatus Patent #2949550, Aug 16th 1960 From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sun Sep 4 08:24:53 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Sun Sep 4 08:25:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interesting site In-Reply-To: <011801c5b15e$3d118e10$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050904152453.56384.qmail@web51911.mail.yahoo.com> MB, wonderful site! I officially owe you a meal (warning: my chili discolors glass.) Bob (wandering off to build the power supply...) --- Michael Best wrote: > http://www.only1egg-productions.org/AltScience/Electrogravity/LifterPage.htm > > or http://snipurl.com/hfhc > > Replication Of The Original > T.T. Brown Electrokinetic Apparatus > Patent #2949550, Aug 16th 1960 > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 4 08:30:25 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 4 08:30:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Political Science Message-ID: <012d01c5b165$92d6a180$d0c5bc41@mikey> Political Science By DANIEL SMITH Published: September 4, 2005, in _The New York Times_ When Donald Kennedy, a biologist and editor of the eminent journal Science, was asked what had led so many American scientists to feel that George W. Bush's administration is anti-science, he isolated a familiar pair of culprits: climate change and stem cells. These represent, he said, "two solid issues in which there is a real difference between a strong consensus in the science community and the response of the administration to that consensus." Both issues have in fact riled scientists since the early days of the administration, and both continue to have broad repercussions. In March 2001, the White House abruptly withdrew its support for the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, and the U.S. withdrawal was still a locus of debate at this summer's G8 summit in Scotland. And the administration's decision to limit federal funds for embryonic-stem-cell research four years ago -- a move that many scientists worry has severely hampered one of the most fruitful avenues of biomedical inquiry to come along in decades -- resulted in a shift in the dynamics of financing, from the federal government to the states and private institutions. In November 2004, Californians voted to allocate $3 billion for stem-cell research in what was widely characterized as a "scientific secession." Is the Bush Administration anti-science? Yet what remains most divisive, according to Kennedy, is not the Bush administration's specific policies, but a more general sense that ''scientific conclusions, reached either within agencies or by people outside of government, are being changed for political reasons by people who have not done the scientific work.'' It is this sense that science is being ''misused'' that has given rise to two Congressional bills. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/magazine/04SCIENCE.html?th&emc=th From texastjs at swbell.net Sun Sep 4 08:34:07 2005 From: texastjs at swbell.net (Tim) Date: Sun Sep 4 08:34:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Recovery Message-ID: <431B13EF.5040108@swbell.net> 5. Re: Taking a Break (javilk@mall-net.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- You (Jalvilk) are naturally without a clue about how I condict my everyday affairs.So you cannot know that I spend very little time ruminating intentionally, issues bubble up and are examined and dealt with. I haven't yet got free entirely, and realize I probably never will-everyone grieves differently. I have my trust, innocence and purity to grieve, and I still have not grieved the losses entirely. First you have to figure out the magnitude of the loss, and I am still figuring it up. VESTA: I am not mad-I am sorry you suffered too. I wanted to keep my tone even with you and have no intention to rankle anyone-whilst I explain my exception to the just "get over it" admonitions. I have as "gotten over it, or taken a break" from the physical, mental, sexual, spiritual abuse as I reckon I can. It's been a long road-and most of it I had "stuffed" for 40 years-so it certainly SEEMED as though I had gotten over it-WITH A VENGEANCE. However, by examining my health issues-and my attitudes, I came to the conclusion I was just "stuffing" my trauma and not exorcising the demons. Once I got things into the light, so to speak, I dealt with them and overcame them, as much as I can, so far. I do agree about the brain's "Plasticity" (Jalvilk)but the brain is not the spirit, and the bible says, "A wounded Spirit-who can bear?" God has to do the healing when the wound is massive-I'm still hoping, asking, waiting on HIM-Goodbye, I am signing off-wishing you all the most wonderful things.At this point all of this is just opening more wounds, and I must keep the bleeding minimal. Lisa R. Smith From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 4 08:39:41 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 4 08:39:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Watching Message-ID: <013201c5b166$de496660$d0c5bc41@mikey> Some ideas are larger than Kansas. And all it takes to eliminate the Wicked Witch is a bucket of water (truth?). -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 4 08:54:11 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 4 08:54:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interesting site Message-ID: <013301c5b168$e4b9e3b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Bob- I love chili! The spicier, the better! Chernobyl Chili is ideal. I make what I call "Mikey's Insanity Sauce," habenero peppers pureed in white wine vinegar. Should I bring some, or will your chili be properly palate-scorching? As for the power supply, I suggest either a neon sign transformer and TV HV rectifier, or a simple capacitor-diode voltage multiplier operating from the AC mains. I have schematics, if you need them. -Mike -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 08:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Juliano MB, wonderful site! I officially owe you a meal (warning: my chili discolors glass.) Bob (wandering off to build the power supply...) --- Michael Best wrote: > http://www.only1egg-productions.org/AltScience/Electrogravity/LifterPage.htm > > or http://snipurl.com/hfhc > > Replication Of The Original > T.T. Brown Electrokinetic Apparatus > Patent #2949550, Aug 16th 1960 From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 4 10:20:28 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 4 10:20:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20050904172028.7477.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.physics911.net http://www.reopen911.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050904/5762c154/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Sep 4 12:50:05 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Sep 4 12:50:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde Message-ID: <1dc.44392e3d.304ca9ed@aol.com> Hi Clyde, I'm taking a break from the crazy folks, every one thinking they know best how to house a couple thousand refugees. Politics in everything, all have their own agenda, sometimes I think this is all about them, not the homeless. I am hoping you have the next few days off, have some old fashion FUN. Clyde, have you ever had something that needs you, something you care about ? Reason I ask, I have this parakeet that, if you wish, I can send you. It does talk, I have found, it's kind of embarrassing, it says " * uck it and "scumbag" most clearly. I got this bird from a neighbor who was moving. Had it about a week now and even went out to get it a buddy to keep him company. This morning, out of the clear blue he attacked his cage mate and when I went to quiet things down, he yelled at me. I have heard Parrots talk but I didn't think a parakeet could be so clear. I sent family member to buy a separate cage for his buddy, the first bird is a year or two old and his buddy is a baby, can't defend itself. Once the old bird gets going you can't shut him up, some of my children who came to visit, think the bird is funny and laughed till tears rolled down their face. Will any of them take him, hell no, they think I should give him to my 86 year old mother. The idea of their grandmother having a bird that yells "scumbag" seems to send them in hysterical laughter. Are you going on a cookout this weekend ? A good run on your bike, or just a stroll around town, checking out the new stores that seem to come and go in all cities, may be not Fun but could be relaxing. Got to go cover bird cage, bird is TALKING again. Then go get my LOML who is inviting the neighbors in to marvel over the damn birds vocabulary. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050904/a6e795d8/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 4 12:57:46 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 4 12:57:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] aircraft transponders and the ATC network Message-ID: <013f01c5b18a$ec0c27f0$d0c5bc41@mikey> There is a simple technique used by hackers, crackers, and spammers called "spoofing." Using raw sockets in Linux, I can effectively disguise my identity on any TCP/IP packet I send. Further, using this method, I can conduct "reflected denial of service attacks" on any computer connected to the Internet- and have done this to spammers in the past. I will not share the details here- no cracker or magician reveals his secrets. Besides, this is quite technical, and requires an innate understanding of TCP/IP transport. If you want to know, you have to learn it for yourself. However, it is extremely simple to spoof transponder codes on airliners. There is no need to assume "bumble planes," disabled transponders, or the like. A single individual, in the right place, can corrupt the entire nation's air traffic control infrastructure. Transponders can be ignored or identities spoofed, flights can disappear from the radar, and nonexistent flights can be made to appear. A single operative with sufficient computing power and connectivity, e.g. a NSA operative in Reston, VA, can totally confuse the entire civilian system. I cannot say that this happened; only that it is possible. Apply Occam's Razor. -MB From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 4 16:26:17 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 4 16:26:22 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORE WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20050904232617.96042.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net http://www.newenergymovement.org/ http://www.newenergymovement.org/newenergyp1.aspx --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050904/15c75733/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 5 13:57:28 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 5 13:57:39 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] worthy of a brief look... Message-ID: <005401c5b25c$6dae6c10$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.somethingawful.com/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 5 14:19:57 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 5 14:20:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REGARDING THE BIBLE. In-Reply-To: <20050827020739.33104.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050905211957.54131.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Well, actually, the church is anti sexual. And the sexuality isn't done to oppose the bible or the church, it's just done. So it's not technically anti-biblical. (Have you read the bible? There's a LOT of sex in the bible!) I'VE NEVER READ THE BIBLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH, COVER TO COVER, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT IS ALSO JUST AS EQUALLY FULL OF VIOLENCE TOO, DONE IN THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE JEWS: JEHOVAH; JUST AS THE MUSLIM Q'URAN IS FULL OF VIOLENT ATROCITIES TOO, DONE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050905/41410571/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 5 14:43:56 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 5 14:44:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More Truth Message-ID: <005501c5b262$eb3e8790$d0c5bc41@mikey> It is a matter of record that New Orleans is 67% Negro. As anyone can see on TV, the looters in New Orleans are Negro. Nevermind the reasons; but only Africans are in New Orleans today. I propose that the PC neoliberals, by denying the existence of a genetic and social predisposition to violence among the African races, are the most racist of all. These Africans are shooting at aid workers, looting shops for appliances they cannot possibly use, sexually assaulting innocents, and basically reverting to their jungle ancestry. Whereas I can accept looting a grocery store for milk and bread, I must condemn looting Wal-Mart for DVD's and wide-screen HDTV's. WHEN will we recognize the inherent differences between the races? Only after we recognize this, and deal with it, we will have true equality- only then will we realize Dr. King's Dream! Until then, the neoliberal knee-jerks are the ones keeping the Africans in economic slavery under their heels! Affirmative action, entitlement programs, and welfare do nothing but reinforce the systemic segregation of our Jim Crow society. -MB Troops begin combat operations in New Orleans By Joseph R. Chenelly Army Times staff writer NEW ORLEANS - Combat operations are underway on the streets "to take this city back" in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. "This place is going to look like Little Somalia," Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard's Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. "We're going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control." Numerous soldiers also told Army Times that they have been shot at by armed civilians in New Orleans. Spokesmen for the Joint Task Force Headquarters at the Superdome were unaware of any servicemen being wounded in the streets, although one soldier is recovering from a gunshot wound sustained during a struggle with a civilian in the dome Wednesday night. "I never thought that at a National Guardsman I would be shot at by other Americans," said Spc. Philip Baccus of the 527th Engineer Battalion. "And I never thought I'd have to carry a rifle when on a hurricane relief mission. This is a disgrace." http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1077495.php Actually, if these sorry asses are going to bite the hands that feed them, I have a suggestion. Once all those who voluntarily evacuate New Orleans are gone, leaving none but the black criminals who would loot, rape, steal, and kill- NUKE it! Neutron bomb New Orleans, sterilize the place, and let the bastards rot! I am about tired of not having anything because black baby factories take it all. I know who my father is- how many "African-Americans" can say the same, as a ratio to whites? -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 5 15:33:52 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 5 15:34:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: More Truth In-Reply-To: <005501c5b262$eb3e8790$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 05, 2005 05:43:56 PM Message-ID: <20050905223352.82106.qmail@mall-net.com> > It is a matter of record that New Orleans is 67% Negro. So? > As anyone can see on TV, the looters in New Orleans are Negro. = > Nevermind the reasons; but only Africans are in New Orleans today. Really? I've seen plenty of whites in the photos, both as rescuer and rescuee. > I propose that the PC neoliberals, by denying the existence of a genetic = > and social predisposition to violence among the African races, are the most > racist of all. Bull detritus liquefied with hog wash!!! I am surprised you make these scatalogical statements on a public forum! Tendencies toward violence are FAR more social issues than genetic! I've worked with some rather fine black gentlemen in my time! I feel insulted that you should say this, because two of them were head and shoulders above the whites I was working with at the time! One was in Florida, the other was an off-the-boat immigrant from Africa with whom we had some interesting discussions on starting a computer service business. Seems he'd worked for HP, and felt there was an opportunity. Culture, not genetics triggers a lot of this. Culture can be learned. > These Africans are shooting at aid workers, looting shops for appliances > they cannot possibly use, sexually assaulting innocents, and basically > reverting to their jungle ancestry. Whereas I can accept looting a = > grocery > store for milk and bread, I must condemn looting Wal-Mart for DVD's and > wide-screen HDTV's. The poor are poor more because of their cultural biases, their tendencies to form tight neighborhoods, than anything else. This applies not just to blacks, but also to many, many immigrants! I've seen this first hand. Those who integrate, make money. Those who don't... become very, very poor. > WHEN will we recognize the inherent differences between the races? Only BULL CRAP! Do you know that scientists question the concept of race? And if there is race, then most of the characteristics are NOT simply color! There are a lot of variation in terms of head and body shapes which have higher relationships to character and intelligence than mere skin color. And span the skin color issue. Sure, there are plenty of bad blacks who would loot, do drugs, etc. But there are plenty of whites who will do the same. You lump all blacks into one category; but you say skin-heads are not representative of whites. Yet those skin-heads are probably just as poor as the worst of the blacks, and because of that cultural gang-like self-support and belief they are the master race, are MORE likely to slit your throat than the average black man. Remember this, Mike, When the Cypress structure fell on all those BMW's, Mercedes, and other high class cars in the poorest of the SF Bay area neighborhoods, those Black people came out, risked their lives climbing on shaking breaking concrete to save white lives!!! They did not steal! They did not kill! They did not rape! They risked their very lives saving white folks in damned expensive cars!!! That is what kind of people they are! The looter, rescue worker shooter is a Very Very Rare and sick person! > Until then, the neoliberal knee-jerks are the ones keeping the Africans = > in economic slavery under their heels! Affirmative action, entitlement > programs, and welfare do nothing but reinforce the systemic segregation = > of our Jim Crow society. Yes, much of this entitlement industry is screwier than all hell! But you know, if you don't give a child hope, he won't give anyone else any hope either. We see this in New Haven, Connecticut, where blacks have basically destroyed the city with gang violence and just plain economic nonsense ripping off banks and the SBA by using entitlements to create non-working businesses that HAVE TO BE FUNDED per federal mandates. I use to visit New Haven a lot, as a good friend lived there, ran a national class antiques show, etc. Over the years, it just got too dangerous for people to attend the show. Yes, in Yale's back yard. And yet, in places where there has been hope, where the level of integration has been modest; blacks do very good work, become a bit entrepreneurial, etc. just as the whites. I've met a lot of them. It is clearly a culture thing. > factories take it all. I know who my father is- how many > "African-Americans" can say the same, as a ratio to whites? Don't be so sure, Mike. It's not limited to Blacks. I think the skin-heads are far more likely to have guns -- rifles! And have the know-how and inclination to use them. If there's any race less likely to loot and shoot, it's the Chinese. But then, Mao made up for that, making Hitler and his death camps look like a piker. And Stalin was close behind. There are a hell of a lot of good blacks out there. And sure, just like the whites, a heck of a lot of bad ones. It's a culture thing, something they rarely teach in school because the neolibs think all cultures are equally good. They're not. If they were, we'd have more advanced civilizations in Africa and many of the jungles. And in some of them, what we call abuse of little boys is a central part of their culture. As are murderous raids, kidnaping, slavery, buying multiple wives, etc., etc. I'm not saying our culture is perfect. Lord knows it's degenerated a lot in the past few generations since the Europeans infused us with more of it. But they have their problems too. Remember, commercial electric lighting, air travel, computers, etc. came from America, not Europe. On the other hand, we got a lot of salads, Pizza, etc. from the Europeans. Not to mention some icon sitting in New York City harbor. Culture can be learned. Parents and grandparents can, and SHOULD teach it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 5 16:07:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 5 16:07:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050903051111.27879.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050905230702.51409.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > (THE TULSA D.H.S. KOMMUNISM-PLEX AND THE TULSA HOUSING AND (SLUM-)URBAN *SLUM-URBAN, AND SLUM-BURBAN* DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* Meaningless terms. If you think in terms of such labels, you are merely compounding your confusion. ACTUALLY, THEY MAY BE MEANINGLESS TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE SARCASMS BY MYSELF, THAT I'VE CREATED, AND SUCH WORDS CAN BE USEFUL TO CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE. I DO GET A LAUGH AT TIMES ABOUT THOSE TYPE OF WORDS THAT I CREATE. I'VE GOT A FRIEND WHO IS BLIND, AND HE PLAYS WITH WORDS ALL OF THE TIME, AND DOES A LOT OF NEW WORD CREATIONS ALL OF THE TIME. IT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF HIS INFLUENCE IN MY LIFE, THAT I NOW LINGUISTICALLY PLAY WITH WORDS TOO, ESPECIALLY SARCASTICALLY, BECAUSE I HAVE SUCH A BAD ATTITUDE. And as confusion rises, you become more likely to resort to paranoid shortcuts in thought. YEAH; CONFUSION; I AGREE. MY PERFECTIONISM MAKES ME PARANOID, WHEN I AM RUSHED FOR TIME, AND WHEN MONEY IS IN SHORT SUPPLY. IT ISN'T DELUSIONAL PARANOIA, IT IS JUST NERVOUS FEAR THAT THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THINGS. GOTTA GO. IF I CAN, I WILL BE TAKING MY BIKE TO THE ARKANSAS RIVER WALK BRIDGE TONIGHT, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF AWAY FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050905/96a32d55/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 5 20:15:28 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 5 20:15:32 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050905230702.51409.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 05, 2005 04:07:02 PM Message-ID: <20050906031528.47855.qmail@mall-net.com> > *SLUM-URBAN, AND SLUM-BURBAN* > DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* > > Meaningless terms. If you think in terms of such labels, you are > merely compounding your confusion. > ACTUALLY, THEY MAY BE MEANINGLESS TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE SARCASMS BY MYSELF, THAT I'VE CREATED, AND SUCH WORDS CAN BE USEFUL TO CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE. It isn't the communications that I am referring to, as we all make up words from time to time. What I mean is in your brain, you have stereotyped the area as a slum. And with those large, solid stereotypes as shortcuts for thought and observation, you can't change things, can't free your perceptions to see differently. As long as you can't see things differently, you can not change how you react. And if you can't change how you react, you can't change yourself, at least not very well. By stereotyping things this way, you put huge impediments in you way to making your life better. > And as confusion rises, you become more likely to resort to paranoid > shortcuts in thought. > > YEAH; CONFUSION; I AGREE. > > MY PERFECTIONISM MAKES ME PARANOID, WHEN I AM RUSHED FOR TIME, AND > WHEN MONEY IS IN SHORT SUPPLY. > IT ISN'T DELUSIONAL PARANOIA, IT IS > JUST NERVOUS FEAR THAT THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF > THINGS. That is not paranoia in the sense of some people being out to get you. It's fear of failing. > IF I CAN, I WILL BE TAKING MY BIKE TO THE ARKANSAS RIVER WALK BRIDGE > TONIGHT, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF AWAY FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUMBURB. Excellent! But do be careful about air pollution when all the people return. I was in rather bad shape Friday evening and Sunday as lots of people hit the road. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 5 21:36:32 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 5 21:36:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sex in the Bible Message-ID: <005a01c5b29c$8f0ddd60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Ever read the Song of Solomon (aka the Song of Songs)? Hot and steamy! Solomon sticks his finger in her keyhole in order to smell the fragrance of her myrrh. And when she has a headache, Solomon takes off for the local cathouse. When she chases him, she gets arrested. The soap operas have nothing on the Bible! What I find interesting is how much Baptist preachers squirm when asked about keyholes and myrrh. -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 5 22:19:11 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 5 22:19:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: worthy of a brief look... In-Reply-To: <005401c5b25c$6dae6c10$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 05, 2005 04:57:28 PM Message-ID: <20050906051911.23413.qmail@mall-net.com> > > http://www.somethingawful.com/ > Paypal is well known as a bunch of scumbags on the net. using Paypal with your regular bank account is tantamount to leaving your wallet out in the street, as any problem can cause all funds in your bank account to be reported as probably fraudulent, frozen for 30 - 90 days, etc. People have been booted out of their appartments for non-payment when this has happened thank's to Papal's policies. Never, EVER use Paypal for anything if you are recieving money. For sending money, it's not that bad. -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- --------------- Every click, a vote. ---------------- ----- Do people vote for, or against your pages? ---- -- What people want: http://www.SitePsych.com/free -- ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2005, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 06:26:29 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 06:26:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Sex in the Bible In-Reply-To: <005a01c5b29c$8f0ddd60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050906132629.9040.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> FUNNY! THANKS FOR SHARING THIS. CLYDE Michael Best wrote: Ever read the Song of Solomon (aka the Song of Songs)? Hot and steamy! Solomon sticks his finger in her keyhole in order to smell the fragrance of her myrrh. And when she has a headache, Solomon takes off for the local cathouse. When she chases him, she gets arrested. The soap operas have nothing on the Bible! What I find interesting is how much Baptist preachers squirm when asked about keyholes and myrrh. -MB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/5fa966c4/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 06:42:29 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 06:42:42 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LOT'S OF 'SPAM' JUNK E-MAILS.... Message-ID: <20050906134229.86809.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> I HAVE BEEN GETTING MANY 'SPAM' JUNK E-MAILS INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW, AND HAVE REALLY IGNORED THEM UP UNTIL NOW. SINCE RADIO SCIENCE IS MORE OF MY AREA OF SPECIALTY, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PERMANENTLY RID MYSELF OF THE PROBLEM OF RECEIVING ALL OF THESE SPAM E-MAILS OR SPYWARE E-MAILS, OR WHATEVER IN THE NONSENSICAL CEASELESS SENSELESS HELL THAT THEY ARE. I HAVE A HUNCH THAT THEY ARE SPYWARE E-MAILS, BUT CANNOT VERIFY THAT FOR A FACT. I PRESENTLY HAVE FIVE OF THEM IN MY INBOX AT THIS TIME. I HAVE NOTICED THAT WHEN I DELETE MOST OF THESE JUNK E-MAILS, THAT THEY ARE NOT SENT TO THE TRASH PORTION OF THE YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT, FOR DELETION; THEY GO ELSEWHERE; BUT WHERE? WHERE DO THEY GO EXACTLY? I NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY GO, AND DELETE THOSE FILES, IF POSSIBLE. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/6721d2ad/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 06:59:11 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 06:59:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TURNS PER COIL.... Message-ID: <20050906135911.1121.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> JOHN, TODAY I WILL BEGIN THE WINDING OF THE COILS FOR THE E.M. B-WAVE ENT.-MENT PROJECT 'HELMET' MARK 1. YOU MENTIONED IN THE PAST, EXACTLY HOW MANY TURNS PER EACH OF THE THREE COILS THAT YOU MADE, ON YOUR KNITTER'S HOOPS. I WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE NOTES LAST NIGHT, THAT I'VE KEPT HANDY, TO SEE IF I COULD FIND WHERE YOU MENTIONED THE TOTAL # OF WINDINGS PER EACH COIL. I COULDN'T FIND THAT PAPER PRINTOUT. (IT MUST BE MIXED IN WITH OTHER PRINTOUTS SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO THROUGH IT ALL.). SO I NEED TO FIND OUT AGAIN, EXACTLY HOW MANY COIL WINDINGS PER EACH COIL SHOULD SUFFICE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/ac5583ca/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 07:21:16 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 07:21:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050906031528.47855.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050906142116.86097.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > *SLUM-URBAN, AND SLUM-BURBAN* > DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* > > Meaningless terms. If you think in terms of such labels, you are > merely compounding your confusion. > ACTUALLY, THEY MAY BE MEANINGLESS TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE SARCASMS BY MYSELF, THAT I'VE CREATED, AND SUCH WORDS CAN BE USEFUL TO CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE. It isn't the communications that I am referring to, as we all make up words from time to time. What I mean is in your brain, you have stereotyped the area as a slum. And with those large, solid stereotypes as shortcuts for thought and observation, you can't change things, can't free your perceptions to see differently. TULSA, AND OKLAHOMA, ARE VERY UNFREE PLACES TO LIVE, IN AMERICA. -CAN BARELY EVEN BREATHE, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND. I WAS JUST THINKING EARLIER, OF TULSA, AND IT BEING ONE THE PLACES OF HELL ON EARTH, TO LIVE. AND COLORADO IS MORE THAN LIKELY NOT ANY DIFFERENT; SO I'M TOLD, BY THE DUMBASS NAYSAYERS. As long as you can't see things differently, you can not change how you react. TULSA IS A PRISON OF DAMNATION. And if you can't change how you react, you can't change yourself, at least not very well. MAYBE I SHOULD START DIGGING MY OWN GRAVE. By stereotyping things this way, you put huge impediments in you way to making your life better. > And as confusion rises, you become more likely to resort to paranoid > shortcuts in thought. > > YEAH; CONFUSION; I AGREE. > > MY PERFECTIONISM MAKES ME PARANOID, WHEN I AM RUSHED FOR TIME, AND > WHEN MONEY IS IN SHORT SUPPLY. > IT ISN'T DELUSIONAL PARANOIA, IT IS > JUST NERVOUS FEAR THAT THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF > THINGS. That is not paranoia in the sense of some people being out to get you. It's fear of failing. YEAH; AND I HAVE A TREMENDOUS FEAR OF FAILING; INSTILLED INTO ME BY MY FATHER, AND BY MY GRANDPARENTS AS WELL; NAMELY: MY BIMBO DUMBASS BITCH GRANDMOTHER, ON MY MOM'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY. > IF I CAN, I WILL BE TAKING MY BIKE TO THE ARKANSAS RIVER WALK BRIDGE > TONIGHT, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF AWAY FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUMBURB. Excellent! But do be careful about air pollution when all the people return. I was in rather bad shape Friday evening and Sunday as lots of people hit the road. WELL I WENT LAST NIGHT! IT WAS PRETTY COOL; THOUGH THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION; (LOT'S OF SPIDERS AND BUGS OVER THERE TOO), SINCE WEST TULSA IS AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: ACTUALLY 'FAR' WORSE, THAN EAST TULSA, WHERE I AM PRESENTLY FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE. THE FUCKING OIL REFINERIES PUTTING OUT ENDLESS SHIT INTO THE AIR OVER THERE, AND THE A.E.P. P.S.O. FASCIST-COMMUNIST-DICTATORSHIP NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT FACILITY IS OVER THERE TOO. I WENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE P.S.O. POWER PLANT; LOT'S OF ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION OVER THERE TOO. IT IS NO WONDER WHY I AM SO NEUROLOGICALLY DAMAGED NOW; WITH ALL OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION IN THE AIR, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ADDICTION BY THE PILL PUSHERS OF THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOM(MUNISM)PLEX, BY ALL OF THE ENDLESS SMOG IN THE ATMOSPHERE; THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS HOUSE, AND THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS INSIDE OF THIS HOUSE; NOT TO ALSO MENTION: TULSA TIME TOO; ENDLESS CHAOS AND CONFUSION. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/36a7d137/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 6 08:44:10 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 6 08:44:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TURNS PER COIL.... In-Reply-To: <20050906135911.1121.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 06, 2005 06:59:11 AM Message-ID: <20050906154410.48847.qmail@mall-net.com> > > --===============1025893014== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-789286995-1126015151=:1087" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > --0-789286995-1126015151=:1087 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > JOHN, > > TODAY I WILL BEGIN THE WINDING OF THE > COILS FOR THE E.M. B-WAVE ENT.-MENT > PROJECT 'HELMET' MARK 1. > YOU MENTIONED IN THE PAST, EXACTLY > HOW MANY TURNS PER EACH OF THE > THREE COILS THAT YOU MADE, ON YOUR > KNITTER'S HOOPS. 25 on the outer coils, 19 on the inner coils. They should all be 25 to form a true Helmholtz field. http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/r/mag.html -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 6 08:48:21 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 6 08:48:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LOT'S OF 'SPAM' JUNK E-MAILS.... In-Reply-To: <20050906134229.86809.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 06, 2005 06:42:29 AM Message-ID: <20050906154821.50690.qmail@mall-net.com> > > --===============1753878702== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1248062797-1126014149=:86411" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > --0-1248062797-1126014149=:86411 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > I HAVE BEEN GETTING MANY 'SPAM' > JUNK E-MAILS INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT > FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW, AND HAVE > REALLY IGNORED THEM UP UNTIL NOW. > SINCE RADIO SCIENCE IS MORE OF MY > AREA OF SPECIALTY, I DO NOT KNOW > HOW TO PERMANENTLY RID MYSELF OF > THE PROBLEM OF RECEIVING ALL OF THESE > SPAM E-MAILS OR SPYWARE E-MAILS, OR No one knows. I use to get around 800 an hour, rising to several thousand per hour. During one viral wave, I got over 8,000 an hour for several days. Fortunately, most were identifiable as such by SpamAssassin, and tossed into the spam file. But that still took up space on our hard drives. My ISP has finally started better filtering; but I still get 20 - 100 per hour. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 6 09:35:12 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 6 09:35:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050906142116.86097.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 06, 2005 07:21:16 AM Message-ID: <20050906163512.86483.qmail@mall-net.com> > > *SLUM-URBAN, AND SLUM-BURBAN* > > DEVELOPMENT COOPERATIVE.).* > > > > Meaningless terms. If you think in terms of such labels, you are > > merely compounding your confusion. > > > ACTUALLY, THEY MAY BE MEANINGLESS TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE > SARCASMS BY MYSELF, THAT I'VE CREATED, AND SUCH WORDS CAN BE USEFUL TO > CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE. > > It isn't the communications that I am referring to, as we all make > up words from time to time. What I mean is in your brain, you have > stereotyped the area as a slum. And with those large, solid stereotypes > as shortcuts for thought and observation, you can't change things, can't > free your perceptions to see differently. > TULSA, AND OKLAHOMA, ARE VERY UNFREE PLACES TO LIVE, IN AMERICA. > -CAN BARELY EVEN BREATHE, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND. > I WAS JUST THINKING EARLIER, OF TULSA, AND IT BEING ONE THE PLACES OF HELL ON EARTH, TO LIVE. As long as you believe it is impossible, it is! And your thoughts, by stereotyping and refusing to look at details, make it so. Why is it unfree? Are there chains on your legs? Do guards keep you from going places? Why is it hard to breathe? Is it air pollution? Is it your health? If air pollution (and there is usually a lot over the Labor Day Weekend!), then you need to look at moving. Many people with poor detoxification pathways (porphyria, porphyrinuria, pyrroluria, etc.) do better in cleaner air. For people with those problems, it is well worth moving to cleaner air. Earlier you said it was money that kept you from being free. So you need to look how other people make money. Money is being made in Tulsa all the time by thousands of people. You need to look at how they do it, and try some of those things yourself. If money is what is keeping you from being free, then you need to look not so much at how to save it; but at how to make more of it. Most people do the stupid thing of trying to save all the money they need. You Can't! Not unless you become a hermit. You have to EARN it! > AND COLORADO IS MORE THAN LIKELY NOT ANY DIFFERENT; SO I'M TOLD, BY THE DUMBASS NAYSAYERS. If it is your attitude that keeps you a prisoner, then yes. If it is air pollution, then likely it would be better. I think it's probably a little of each. But as I said: > As long as you can't see things differently, you can not change how > you react. > > TULSA IS A PRISON OF DAMNATION. And see, you just keep going back to your belief that nothing can be done. There are thousands of people in Tulsa who believe differently, who are earning a decent living and glad to be there! If they can do it, how are they doing it? (And again, if you label it anti-money, you shut your mind to it, and don't learn how to make it!) > And if you can't change how you react, you can't change yourself, at least not very well. > > MAYBE I SHOULD START DIGGING MY OWN GRAVE. Does that take you closer to freedom, or closer to your grave? I think you want freedom, no? Well? > > MY PERFECTIONISM MAKES ME PARANOID, WHEN I AM RUSHED FOR TIME, AND > > WHEN MONEY IS IN SHORT SUPPLY. > IT ISN'T DELUSIONAL PARANOIA, IT IS > > JUST NERVOUS FEAR THAT THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF > > THINGS. > > That is not paranoia in the sense of some people being out to get > you. It's fear of failing. > > YEAH; AND I HAVE A TREMENDOUS FEAR OF FAILING; Then you have already failed. Poof! Done! Ok, so you've failed. So move on and try something else. !!! The only real failure, is the person who does not try. Most successful people failed terribly at some point in their lives. But they did not stop trying. You are only a failure if you stop when you fail. > INSTILLED INTO ME BY MY FATHER, AND BY MY GRANDPARENTS AS WELL; NAMELY: MY BIMBO DUMBASS BITCH GRANDMOTHER, ON MY MOM'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY. I know exactly what you mean, Clyde. My father was in the underground in Europe. For him, failure meant death for his friends and himself. He lost quite a few very dear friends in some of their actions. And because of that viewpoint, he instilled in me a huge fear of failure as well. Failure meant death to him. He didn't think he'd see 30, never mind his current age of 80+! But one think he said was this. In critical situations, assume you are already dead. Then see how long you can play the game. If you are dead, if you have failed, it's just a game. Sure, that kind of fear of failure left a huge stamp on me and many other immigrant's sons and daughters. I really think too many times before I try, and don't try enough things. But I do try. Look also at how many came with nothing and rebuilt their lives. They already failed! Let's try something else! Assume you have already failed. You have, in your father's eyes, when he died. He's dead. So now you are free of his expectations. Try something, not for your father or mother; but for your own self. See how long you can play the game of life. It's just a game. And if you don't like the game, see if you can make the game better for everyone. http://www.mall-net.com/success.html > > IF I CAN, I WILL BE TAKING MY BIKE TO THE ARKANSAS RIVER WALK BRIDGE > > TONIGHT, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF AWAY FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL > > SLUMBURB. > > Excellent! But do be careful about air pollution when all the > people return. I was in rather bad shape Friday evening and Sunday as > lots of people hit the road. > > WELL I WENT LAST NIGHT! Good! > IT WAS PRETTY COOL; THOUGH THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION; (LOT'S OF SPIDERS AND BUGS OVER THERE TOO), SINCE WEST TULSA IS AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: ACTUALLY 'FAR' WORSE, THAN EAST TULSA, WHERE I AM PRESENTLY FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE. > THE FUCKING OIL REFINERIES PUTTING OUT ENDLESS SHIT INTO THE AIR OVER THERE, AND THE A.E.P. P.S.O. FASCIST-COMMUNIST-DICTATORSHIP NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT FACILITY IS OVER THERE TOO. How did you feel out there? Details? How was it different from where you are now? Details! Was it harder to breathe? Did you cough a lot? Was your head ringing or spinning? Were you much tenser? Did your muscles twitch or fingers tingle? Any difficulty with coordination? > I WENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE P.S.O. POWER PLANT; LOT'S OF ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION OVER THERE TOO. Was your head ringing or felt pressed? Was it harder to think? I've been under some heavy power lines. I don't like it. I seems harder to think. 60hz brain wave entrainment, as per Hutchinson's book on those devices; and the experiments with the coils. > IT IS NO WONDER WHY I AM SO NEUROLOGICALLY DAMAGED NOW; > WITH ALL OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION IN THE AIR, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ADDICTION BY THE PILL PUSHERS OF THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOM(MUNISM)PLEX, BY ALL OF THE ENDLESS SMOG IN THE ATMOSPHERE; THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS HOUSE, AND THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS INSIDE OF THIS HOUSE; NOT TO ALSO MENTION: TULSA TIME TOO; ENDLESS CHAOS AND CONFUSION. What were the details, Clyde? And how much of he time do the winds blow from that area toward where you live and work? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 17:45:37 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 17:45:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A LITTLE BIT OF FURTHER PROGRESS. Message-ID: <20050907004537.92738.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> JOHN, A LITTLE BIT OF FURTHER PROGRESS; I'VE SUCCEESSFULLY WOUND THE FIRST OF THE THREE COILS, ON THE P.V.C. FORMER. I DON'T REMEMBER IF I MENTIONED IN THE PAST, THAT I WOUND A TESLA COIL, BACK IN 95', AND SO I DO HAVE COIL WINDING EXPERIENCE. MY TESLA COIL ENDED UP NOT WORKING, BECAUSE THE FUCKERS AT CONDENSER PRODUCTS; (A HIGH VOLTAGE CAP COMPANY), SOLD ME THE WRONG TYPE OF CAPACITOR, AND SO MY TANK CIRCUIT WAS A DEAD SHORT THROUGH THE CAPACITOR. HOW DO I KNOW? FIRST: I KNOW BECAUSE THE TESLA COIL TRIPPED THE CIRCUIT BREAKER EVERY TIME THAT I ATTEMPTED TO RUN IT. SECOND: AFTER I GAVE UP ON THE PROJECT, I DECIDED; WHAT THE HELL, AND SAWED THE CAPACITOR OPEN, TO DISCOVER THAT THE GODDAMNED INSULATION WAS FAR FAR TOO THIN, FOR TESLA COIL OPERATION. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TYPE OF PLASTIC INSULATION WAS USED INSIDE OF THAT CAP, BUT IT WAS PAPER THIN DIELECTRIC. I WASTED A GOOD, HARD EARNED, $350.00 ON THAT WORTHLESS CAPACITOR. IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT PURCHASING A CAPACITOR FROM A HIGH VOLTAGE CAPACITOR COMPANY, LISTED IN THE THOMAS REGISTER, I WOULD SUGGEST NOT ORDERING ANYTHING FROM CONDENSER (SO-CALLED) PRODUCTS. THE CAPACITOR WAS HIGH QUALITY; (I GIVE THEM THAT CREDIT), BUT THE FUCKERS WOULD NOT GIVE ME A RETURN OF MY MONEY, AND I WAS STUCK WITH A USELESS CAP. THEY WEREN'T KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT TESLA COILS, AND STILL MAY NOT BE, TO THIS DAY; AT CONDENESER 'PRODUCTS'. I'LL REPLY TO YOUR OTHER E-MAIL LATER. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/772fb618/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 17:52:01 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 6 17:52:13 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A WEBLINK THAT YOU POSTED TO THE LIST IN THE PAST.... Message-ID: <20050907005201.30230.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> MIKE, I TRIED SEARCHING FOR ONE OF THE WEBLINKS THAT YOU POSTED-AROUND TWO MONTH'S AGO, TO THE LIST. I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE; ALL I CAN REMEMBER WAS THAT ONE OF THE WEBLINKS HAD ANOTHER WEBLINK AS PART OF ITS LONG LIST OF POSTED WEBLINKS, PERTAINING TO A 'POST HISTORY' TESLA COIL, BUILT BY MICHAEL FARADAY. IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WEBLINK, CAN YOU RESEND IT TO ME, SO THAT I CAN ADD IT TO MY SEVENTH LIST OF WEB ADDRESSES? SINCERELY, CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050906/18d1341a/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 6 21:31:06 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 6 21:31:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Thru cause of Katrina's devastation Message-ID: <002d01c5b364$f6f94540$d0c5bc41@mikey> An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State by Robert Tracinski Sep 02, 2005 by Robert Tracinski It took four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it also took me four long days to figure out what was going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster. http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026 From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 21:44:42 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Tue Sep 6 21:44:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Thru cause of Katrina's devastation In-Reply-To: <002d01c5b364$f6f94540$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050907044442.82464.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com> MB, can we go back to talking about chili and transformers? Some of my students stated they've lost family due to Katrina. I could really use a big pot of texas red right now. Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the > Man-Made Disaster of the > Welfare State > > by Robert Tracinski > Sep 02, 2005 > by Robert Tracinski > > It took four long days for state and federal > officials to figure out how to > deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame > them, because it also > took me four long days to figure out what was going > on there. The reason is > that the events there make no sense if you think > that we are confronting a > natural disaster. > > > > http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 04:25:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 04:25:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050906031528.47855.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050907112526.12810.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: It isn't the communications that I am referring to, as we all make up words from time to time. What I mean is in your brain, you have stereotyped the area as a slum. And with those large, solid stereotypes as shortcuts for thought and observation, you can't change things, can't free your perceptions to see differently. IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE THEN. AS INFLEXIBLE OF AN ENVIRONMENT ENPRISONMENT THAT THIS IS, AROUND ME; I HAVE TO BE OF AT LEAST EQUIVALENT INFLEXIBILITY, IF NOT GREATER. As long as you can't see things differently, you can not change how you react. And if you can't change how you react, you can't change yourself, at least not very well. YEAH; I HAVE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER THAT PEACE COMES FROM INSIDE. WELL I HAVEN'T FOUND PEACE, AND IT HAS BEEN A HELL OF A LONG TIME. I'VE ALSO BEEN GOING THROUGH HELL TO TRY TO GET TO HEAVEN, BUT HELL NEVER ENDS, I GUESS; AND I HAVEN'T FOUND A PERMANENT HEAVEN.... YET. By stereotyping things this way, you put huge impediments in your way to making your life better. WELL I THEN SAY; (AS I'VE SAID BEFORE); FUCK ENVIRONMENT, FUCK THE ENVIRONMENT, AND FUCK ENVIRONMENTALISM TOO; IT IS ATMOSPHERIC AND ECOLOGICAL HEALTH AND WELL BEING THAT NEED TO BE THE FOCUS FOR EVERYONE, EQUALLY, AND NOT ENPRISONMENT;(ENVIRONMENT); AND THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF ALL PEOPLE, JUST AS EQUALLY. I JUST HEARD ON THE TALK RADIO STATION THAT I HAVE LISTENED TO, FOR A LONG TIME NOW, THAT DICTATOR: GEORGE BUSH HAS SPENT; (WASTED); (ABSOLUTELY WASTED); $100 BILLION DOLLARS MORE, ON IRAQ, OR ON SOME OVERSEAS SHANANNIGAN. I CAN TAKE NO MORE: LISTENING TO RIGHT WING EXTREMISM ANYMORE. GEORGE BUSH HAS SCREWED EVERYONE OF US: TAXPAYERS AND NON-TAXPAYERS, ALIKE. WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? WHERE DOES THE IRAQ MONEY TRAIL LEAD? : TO SAUDI ARABIA? WHEN DOES THIS FUCKING PERPETUAL WAR ON FREEDOM END? AND WHEN DOES THE SO-CALLED WAR ON TERRORISM END? WHY IS HEALTHCARE CORRUPT AS HELL? WHY IS THE BANKING AND FINANCIAL ESTABLISHMENT, A CORRUPT AND EVIL, TOTALITARIAN RULING SCHEME THAT HAS DIVIDED US ALL? ARE WE THE PEOPLE TOO AFRAID TO CONFRONT A GOVERNMENT THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL; A GOVERNMENT THAT IS SPENDING ENDELESSLY, OUT OF CONTROL? ARE THERE ANY LEFT WING SOLUTIONS? IF SO; HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THOSE SOLUTIONS TO ARRIVE? CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/d987aee2/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 05:43:41 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 05:43:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050906163512.86483.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050907124341.61369.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > TULSA, AND OKLAHOMA, ARE VERY UNFREE PLACES TO LIVE, IN AMERICA. > -CAN BARELY EVEN BREATHE, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND. > I WAS JUST THINKING EARLIER, OF TULSA, AND IT BEING ONE THE PLACES OF HELL ON EARTH, TO LIVE. As long as you believe it is impossible, it is! And your thoughts, by stereotyping and refusing to look at details, make it so. Why is it unfree? ZONING ORDINANCES. OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, FROM THE (ONION) (COMMUNIST) UNION PUBLIC SCHOOLS SYSTEM (SHITSTEM). HEALTH(SO-CALLED)CARE HERE, IS ABSOLUTE SHIT. ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY ROADWAYS THAT ARE TRAVELLED UPON, 24 HOURS PER DAY. ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRY. Are there chains on your legs? NO; NO CHAINS ON MY LEGS; BUT A CHAIN AROUND MY HEART, AND A KNIFE IN MY HEART. Do guards keep you from going places? NO. Why is it hard to breathe? Is it air pollution? YES: AIR POLLUTION TO THE GODDAMNED HILT. Is it your health? YES: OVERWHELMING STRESS FROM HELL. I MAY HAVE PORPHYRIA, OR THE OTHER TWO AS YOU MENTIONED; BUT MY P.C.P. M.D. REFUSES TO DO THE TESTS, AND HE IS LETTING ME DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE TO TURN TO, OTHER THAN MY CHIROPRACTIC DOCTOR; BUT MY CHIROPRACTIC DOCTOR DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO RUN PORPHYRIA TESTS. MY FATHER WAS BEING TREATED FOR SOME FORM OF SKIN PROBLEM BEFORE HE DIED; I STILL CLEARLY REMEMBER MY AUNT SAYING THAT. If air pollution (and there is usually a lot over the Labor Day Weekend!), then you need to look at moving. YEAH; AIR POLLUTION FROM HELL; BECAUSE THIS PLACE-IS-HELL. Many people with poor detoxification pathways (porphyria, porphyrinuria, pyrroluria, etc.) do better in cleaner air. I WANT TO DO THE AIR FILTRATION ON THE CHEAP, AS YOU HAVE SENT THE WEBLINKS TO, FROM YOUR WEBSITE; EVEN THAT COSTS MONEY THAT I DON'T HAVE PLENTY OF. For people with those problems, it is well worth moving to cleaner air. COLORADO HAS CLEANER AIR, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE LIFE SUPPORT UP THERE; I HAVE TO FIND PEACE WITHIN MYSELF FIRST; BUT HOW? I AM BEING DEPRIVED OF LASTING PEACE. Earlier you said it was money that kept you from being free. So you need to look how other people make money. Money is being made in Tulsa all the time by thousands of people. You need to look at how they do it, and try some of those things yourself. DO I NEED TO SEEK OUT, AND FIND A PHILANTHROPIST, IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE? I DON'T THINK PHILANTHOPY STILL EXISTS; I THINK ONLY IVORY TOWER SCROODGES EXIST. GEORGE KAISER, AS I HAVE FOUND OUT, IS THE NAME OF THE C.E.O. OF THE WILLIAMS BANK OF OKLAHOMA LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER, IN DOWNSLUM TULSA; DO I NEED TO TALK TO HIM? CAN I EVEN TALK TO HIM AT ALL? IS HE A PHILANTHROPIST? If money is what is keeping you from being free, YES; IT IS. then you need to look not so much at how to save it; but at how to make more of it. Most people do the stupid thing of trying to save all the money they need. You Can't! Not unless you become a hermit. I HAVE BECOME VERY ISOLATIVE AND FOR THE MOST PART; ANTI-SOCIAL. You have to EARN it! YEAH; AND I WORK MY ASS OF AT MY EMPLOYER, ONLY TO BE ENDLESSLY OVERWHELMED, AND UNDERPAID. > AND COLORADO IS MORE THAN LIKELY NOT ANY DIFFERENT; SO I'M TOLD, BY THE DUMBASS NAYSAYERS. If it is your attitude that keeps you a prisoner, then yes. YES; PART OF IT IS MY BAD ATTITUDE, BUT THAT ISN'T THE WHOLE GIST OF IT; THE OTHER HALF IS LACK OF PEACE IN MY LIFE. I AM BEING DEPRIVED OF PERMANENT PEACE. If it is air pollution, then likely it would be better. AIR POLLUTION EQUALLY TOO. I think it's probably a little of each. YES: IT IS. But as I said: > As long as you can't see things differently, you can not change how > you react. > > TULSA IS A PRISON OF DAMNATION. And see, you just keep going back to your belief that nothing can be done. AS LONG AS THE ENVIRONMENT IS INFLEXIBLE; I WILL BE INFLEXIBLE; AND IT WILL PROBABLY END UP BEING THE DEATH OF ME, IF THERE CONTINUE TO BE ZERO ALTERNATIVES. There are thousands of people in Tulsa who believe differently, who are earning a decent living and who are glad to be there! If they can do it, how are they doing it? THE COST OF HEALTHCARE IS THROUGH THE ROOF: FOR BOTH THE MIDDLE CLASS, AND FOR THE LOWER CLASS, ALIKE. (And again, if you label it anti-money, you shut your mind to it, and don't learn how to make it!) > And if you can't change how you react, you can't change yourself, at least not very well. > > MAYBE I SHOULD START DIGGING MY OWN GRAVE. Does that take you closer to freedom, or closer to your grave? I think you want freedom, no? Well? FREEDOM; YES: IN A FREE COUNTRY. PERHAPS AMERICA IS STILL FREE. TULSA IS CERTAINLY NOT FREE! AND NEITHER IS OKLAHOMA! > That is not paranoia in the sense of some people being out to get > you. It's fear of failing. > > YEAH; AND I HAVE A TREMENDOUS FEAR OF FAILING; Then you have already failed. Poof! Done! YEAH WELL; I FEAR FAILING, BUT I DO HAVE INSIDE OF MYSELF; THE WILL TO MOVE ENTIRE MOUNTAIN RANGES. Ok, so you've failed. So move on and try something else. I REJECT GIVING UP ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE MEANING, AND THAT WILL ALSO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYONE. !!! The only real failure, is the person who does not try. Most successful people failed terribly at some point in their lives. But they did not stop trying. I DO TRY; I HAVE TRIED; I HAVE FAILED, AND I HAVE ALSO SUCCEEDED TOO. I REJECT GIVING UP, ON THE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE. MONEY AND ANTI-MONEY ALIKE RUIN MATTERS. PEOPLE ENDLESSLY INTERFERE AS WELL; AND THE OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND LACK OF HEALTHCARE IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMLAND SHITHOLE You are only a failure if you stop when you fail. I REJECT STOPPING; BUT I CANNOT KEEP GOING ON, WITH BAD HEALTH: WITH A FUCKED UP NEUROLOGY; WITH INSOMNIA FROM HELL; WITH CARDIOVASCULAR STRESS FROM HELL, ETC.... > INSTILLED INTO ME BY MY FATHER, AND BY MY GRANDPARENTS AS WELL; NAMELY: MY BIMBO DUMBASS BITCH GRANDMOTHER, ON MY MOM'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY. I know exactly what you mean, Clyde. EXACTLY!!!! ABOUT MY BIMBO DUMBASS BITCH GRANDMOTHER? SHE TALKS A LOT OF SHIT; AND BITCHES NONSTOP. My father was in the underground in Europe. For him, failure meant death for his friends and himself. He lost quite a few very dear friends in some of their actions. And because of that viewpoint, he instilled in me a huge fear of failure as well. Failure meant death to him. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS TO ME AS WELL: FAILURE: DEATH. He didn't think he'd see 30, never mind his current age of 80+! But one think he said was this. In critical situations, assume you are already dead. Then see how long you can play the game. If you are dead, if you have failed, it's just a game. I HATE GAMES. GAME AND GAMBLE ARE THE EXACT SAME GODDAMNED THING TO ME. I HATE GAMBLING, SO I HATE OTHER PEOPLE FOR THEIR FUCKING GAMES. GRANTED THOUGH; I DO LIKE SOME GAMES. I PLAYED NINTENDO VIDEO GAMES WHEN I WAS A KID. SO I DO ENJOY SOME; (BUT NOT ALL) GAMES. Sure, that kind of fear of failure left a huge stamp on me and many other immigrant's sons and daughters. I really think too many times before I try, and don't try enough things. But I do try. Look also at how many came with nothing and rebuilt their lives. They already failed! Let's try something else! Assume you have already failed. You have, in your father's eyes, when he died. He's dead. So now you are free of his expectations. Try something, not for your father or mother; but for your own self. See how long you can play the game of life. It's just a game. And if you don't like the game, see if you can make the game better for everyone. http://www.mall-net.com/success.html > > IF I CAN, I WILL BE TAKING MY BIKE TO THE ARKANSAS RIVER WALK BRIDGE > > TONIGHT, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF AWAY FROM THIS INDUSTRIAL > > SLUMBURB. > > Excellent! But do be careful about air pollution when all the > people return. I was in rather bad shape Friday evening and Sunday as > lots of people hit the road. > > WELL I WENT LAST NIGHT! Good! > IT WAS PRETTY COOL; THOUGH THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION; (LOT'S OF SPIDERS AND BUGS OVER THERE TOO), SINCE WEST TULSA IS AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: ACTUALLY 'FAR' WORSE, THAN EAST TULSA, WHERE I AM PRESENTLY FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE. > THE FUCKING OIL REFINERIES PUTTING OUT ENDLESS SHIT INTO THE AIR OVER THERE, AND THE A.E.P. P.S.O. FASCIST-COMMUNIST-DICTATORSHIP NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT FACILITY IS OVER THERE TOO. How did you feel out there? Details? How was it different from where you are now? Details! Was it harder to breathe? Did you cough a lot? Was your head ringing or spinning? Were you much tenser? Did your muscles twitch or fingers tingle? Any difficulty with coordination? > I WENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE P.S.O. POWER PLANT; LOT'S OF ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION OVER THERE TOO. Was your head ringing or felt pressed? Was it harder to think? I've been under some heavy power lines. I don't like it. I seems harder to think. 60hz brain wave entrainment, as per Hutchinson's book on those devices; and the experiments with the coils. > IT IS NO WONDER WHY I AM SO NEUROLOGICALLY DAMAGED NOW; > WITH ALL OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION IN THE AIR, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ADDICTION BY THE PILL PUSHERS OF THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOM(MUNISM)PLEX, BY ALL OF THE ENDLESS SMOG IN THE ATMOSPHERE; THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS HOUSE, AND THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY THAT IS INSIDE OF THIS HOUSE; NOT TO ALSO MENTION: TULSA TIME TOO; ENDLESS CHAOS AND CONFUSION. What were the details, Clyde? 1. ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE AND BODY INTERFERENCE. 2. THE PILL PUSHING, PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOM(MMUNISM)PLEX DRUG ADDICTION DICTATORSHIP; THE FUCKED UP FOOD AND DRUG ADDICTION ASSOCIATION ADMINISTRATION; THE INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT HANDCUFF THE DOCTORS BEHIND THEIR BACKS, PREVENTING THEM FROM EXCERCISING THEIR BEST THAT THEY CAN BE, ETC. 3. THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL KOM(MUNSIM)PLEX DICTATORSHIP OVER THE COMMUNIST PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL (SYSTEM) SHITSTEM; PREVENTING THE WIDESCALE DISSEMINATION OF ENTREPREURIAL EDUCATION EQUALITY, FOR ALL PEOPLE: EQUALLY. 4. THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY; BOTH INSIDE OF, AND OUTSIDE OF, THIS HOUSE;(THIS BROKEN HOME); AND THE FINANCIAL INABILITY TO PURCHASE OR RENT A GOOD QUALITY, WORTHWHILE, CO DETECTOR; OR FOR THAT MATTER: TO EVEN HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOUCES AVAILABLE, TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM, IF CARBON MONOXIDE IS ONE OF THE FACTORS INVOLVED, OR THE NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE "PROBABLY" INVOLVED; INCLUDING DUST MITES, MOLD, AND DIRT IN THE H.V.A.C. DUCTS. I ALREADY LOOKED INTO THE CEILING DUCT, LAST MONTH, FOR RETROFITTING THE AIR INTAKE WITH AN AIR FILTER, AND THE ENTIRE INSIDE OF THE CEILING PIPE IS COATED IN DUST, DIRT, MOLD, 'DUST MITES',-'POLLENS', LINT, CONCRETE DUST, EVAPORATED AND CONDENSED-FOOD COOKING OIL, ALL SORTS OF ALLERGENS, ETC....;;;;; IF YOU NAME IT; IT IS MORE THAN GODDAMNED LIKELY THAT IT IS IN THERE. HOPE I'VE GIVEN ENOUGH DETAILS NOW! And how much of he time do the winds blow from that area toward where you live and work? I'VE NEVER REALLY NOTED ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION THAT THE WINDS BLOW, AND TO WHAT EXTENT THAT THEY BLOW, WHEN BLOWING FROM FROM A SPECIFIC DIRECTION. THE REFINERIES OF THIS INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND ARE OUT WEST; IN WEST TULSA; AND THE AMERICAN JETSTREAM GENERALLY MOVES FROM WEST TO EAST. ISN'T IT NO WONDER WHY SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM TOWN ARE ALWAYS IRRITABLE AND ANGRY AND ALWAYS FEELING SO DAMNED BAD?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/455aeef1/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 09:15:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 09:15:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050906163512.86483.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050907161519.17732.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > WELL I WENT LAST NIGHT! Good! > IT WAS PRETTY COOL; THOUGH THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION; (LOT'S OF SPIDERS AND BUGS OVER THERE TOO), SINCE WEST TULSA IS AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND: ACTUALLY 'FAR' WORSE, THAN EAST TULSA, WHERE I AM PRESENTLY FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE. > THE FUCKING OIL REFINERIES PUTTING OUT ENDLESS SHIT INTO THE AIR OVER THERE, AND THE A.E.P. P.S.O. FASCIST-COMMUNIST-DICTATORSHIP NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT FACILITY IS OVER THERE TOO. How did you feel out there? Details? I FELT OKAY; THOUGH THE AIR WAS NOT PERFECTLY FRESH, AS THE ARKASAS RIVER, HERE IN TULSA, IS HEAVILY POLLUTED WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT ALL. SAND SPRINGS; A TULSA SLUMB TOWN, IS WEST OF TULSA, AND IS BUILT ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER, FURTHER UPSTREAM. SAND SPRINGS IS A HIGHLY INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN TOO. SAND SPRINGS IS BUILT ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER TOO. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT; I THINK I RECALL THAT THEY HAVE METAL REFINERIES OUT THERE, WHICH DUMP A SHITLOAD OF TOXIC HEAVY METAL WASTE INTO THE RIVER. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TESTS THAT HAVE ALSO SHOWN GLOWING BACTERIA IN THE ARKANSAS RIVER, OUT TOWARD SAND SPRINGS. How was it different from where you are now? Details! NOT MUCH. IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND OVER THERE TOO. THE AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER (SO-CALLED: PUBLIC SERVICE COMPANY OF OKLAHOMA) POWER PLANT, IS ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE RIVER; A NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT. BEHIND THE POWER PLANT, THERE ARE THE TULSA (OIL-LAHOMA) - OIL REFINERIES; CONTINUOUSLY BURNING NATURAL GAS FLAMES IN THE AIR. Was it harder to breathe? NO. I COULD BREATHE JUST AS POORLY AS I CAN BREATHE HERE, IN EAST TULSA. THE AIR ANTI-QUALITY IS SHIT OVER THERE TOO; BUT I DIDN'T FEEL TREMENDOUSLY DIFFERENT, WHEN TRYING TO BREATHE THERE, THAN I DO HERE. Did you cough a lot? IT SEEMS LIKE I COUGHED A FEW TIMES, BUT IT WAS MINIMAL. Was your head ringing or spinning? NO. Were you much tenser? I WASN'T MUCH TENSER, BUT I WAS UNDER TENSION. THE CRIME RATE IN TULSA IS THE HIGHEST IN THIS ENTIRE SHITHOLE SLUM SHTATE, AND FROM THE COMBINATION OF THE AIR POLLUTION, AND THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER THERE THAT ARE UP TO NO GOOD; IT GAVE ME THE USUAL TENSION THAT I FEEL. Did your muscles twitch or fingers tingle? NO. Any difficulty with coordination? NO. I WAS COGNIZANT AND AWARE THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I WAS THERE. > I WENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE P.S.O. POWER PLANT; LOT'S OF ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION OVER THERE TOO. Was your head ringing or felt pressed? NO. Was it harder to think? YES. I've been under some heavy power lines. I don't like it. I seems harder to think. 60hz brain wave entrainment, as per Hutchinson's book on those devices; and the experiments with the coils. I WALKED TO A LOCAL BAR LAST NIGHT AND HAD A FEW BEERS; ON THE WAY BACK, THROUGH MY OBSERVATION, I NOTICED THAT THE CABLE NETWORK HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMLAND TULSA, IS POWERED BY ALPHA POWER SUPPLIES. IT MAKES ME WONDER IF AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER, ALPHA POWER SUPPLY CORPORATION, AND COX COMMUNE-ICATIONS ARE IN BED TOGETHER, FOR BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; FOR LOW FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC DISTORTION INTERFERENCE TO BRAINWAVES , AND FOR OTHER 'SINISTER' REASONS BEHIND THE SCENES; LIKE USING GROUND LOOP DETECTION, FOR TRIGGERING THE TELEPHONE SURVEILLANCE, FOR CALEA; FOR THE USE OF ALL ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCERS THAT ARE TIED TO UNPROTECTED ELECTRONICS AND APPLIANCES FOR SURVEILLANCE REASONS; BACK AMPLIFIED, AND FILTERED BY THE WEALTHY 'FOLKS' ; (BY THE WEALTHY FUCKERS) IN THE COMMUNE-ICATIONS INDUSTRY/IES, AND IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION INTRAFUCKTURE(S). BITS AND PIECES OF THE ORWELLIAN INTRAFUCKTURE (WEBLINKS): 1. http://www.alpha.com/ 2. http://www.aep.com/ 3. http://www.cox.com/ 4. http://www.calea.org/ 5. http://www.fcc.gov/calea/ 6. http://www.askcalea.net/ 7. http://www.cotse.net/privacy/magic_lantern.htm 8. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore1.htm 9. http://online.securityfocus.com/news/97 10. http://www.starlink.clarityconnect.com/cyberspy.html 11. http://www.naruc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=334 12. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_47/b3909130_mz018.htm 13. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm 14. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm 15. http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/printthread.php?t=5891 16. http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm A SOMEWHAT PARANOID THOUGHT: COULD IT BE POSSIBLE; COULD THERE BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY, THAT BRAINWAVES HAVE ENOUGH FIELD STRENGTH AROUND THE CRANIUM, TO MODULATE THE HIGH STRENGTH ELECTOMAGNETIC FIELD OF FLORESCENT LIGHT BULBS, WHEN THE BULBS ARE POWERED??? YOU MAY THINK THAT THIS QUESTION IS WAY WAY TOO FAR OUT; BUT I DON'T THINK SO. AFTER STUDYING SOME CRUDE SCHEMATICS IN THE PAST, REGARDING CRUDE MODULATION TECHNIQUES, OF THE PAST AND PRESENT, IT DOES INDEED MAKE ME WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY THAT BRAINWAVES CAN MODULATE THE E.M. FIELDS OF POWERED FLORESCENT BULBS, WHICH THE CORRESPONDING MODULATIONS MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO BE REGISTERED ON AN ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH CAN BE FILTERED AND TRANSLATED. MAYBE THAT IS TOO MUCH. I CANNOT AFFORD THE TEST EQUIPMENT TO DO MY OWN EXPERIMENTS, TO COME TO ANY CONCLUSIONS THOUGH. I MAY NEVER LEARN THE ACTUAL TRUTH'S ABOUT IT ALL. MONEY AND ANTI-MONEY AGAIN, LIMIT THE POTENTIALS OF MY ABILITY TO EXPERIMENT IN THOSE AREAS OF CONTEMPLATION. > IT IS NO WONDER WHY I AM SO NEUROLOGICALLY DAMAGED NOW; NEUROLOGICALLY FUCKED, CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I can't blame them, because it also took me four long days to figure out what was going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster. http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026 _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/0767b598/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 15:45:21 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 15:45:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MBEST@TRIAD.RR.COM In-Reply-To: <002d01c5b364$f6f94540$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050907224521.32778.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> THANKS FOR THIS WEBLINK, MIKE. IT IS A GOOD ONE. I SIGNED UP FOR A FREE TRIAL OF THE E-NEWS LETTER. CLYDE Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State by Robert Tracinski Sep 02, 2005 by Robert Tracinski It took four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it also took me four long days to figure out what was going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster. http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026 _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/8117ac25/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 15:50:39 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 15:50:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: In-Reply-To: <20050907224521.32778.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050907225039.27309.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> NOW I FEEL KIND OF FOOLISH. I TITLED THE POSTING WITH MIKE'S E-MAIL ADDRESS, AND ACCIDENTALLY SENT IT TO THE LIST, INSTEAD OF TO HIM. I'M NOT THINKING PERFECTLY STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW. I JUST WOKE UP FROM A NAP, AND I HAVE ALSO RUN OUT OF THE DAILY DRUG ADDICTION DOSAGE OF CLONAZEPAM, AND AM SUFFERING BECAUSE OF IT. GOTTA GO WIND THE SECOND COIL. LATER, CLYDE clyde lofton wrote: THANKS FOR THIS WEBLINK, MIKE. IT IS A GOOD ONE. I SIGNED UP FOR A FREE TRIAL OF THE E-NEWS LETTER. CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/f3ba4a94/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 16:10:11 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 16:10:16 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHOLE GRAINS COUNCIL. Message-ID: <20050907231011.51350.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.wholegrainscouncil.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/9a2d59f7/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 7 16:42:52 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 7 16:43:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Failures of New Age politics in New Orleans Message-ID: <00b501c5b405$dd60c530$d0c5bc41@mikey> A perfect case of government failure Terence Corcoran Financial Post September 2, 2005 Can New Orleans be rebuilt? Maybe not. And maybe it shouldn't be. The city defied geography and market economics for two centuries. If it is to be rebuilt, the last people to be entrusted with the task are the people -- bureaucrats, politicians, authorities -- now managing the rescue operation. When Enron crashed, the blame was laid at the foot of the market economy. The conclusion was instant: The workings of business cannot be left to business alone, least of all to the crooked executives who run corporations. Aiming to correct this "market failure," governments punished the CEOs and rushed in with laws and regulations that have cost billions of dollars. It will be interesting to see how diligent governments are in getting to the bottom of the New Orleans hurricane disaster, one of the greatest instances of government failure in U.S. history. To put the question in one sentence: How can a totally predictable hurricane destroy a city that could have been protected, producing an energy crisis threat that should not have been possible? The answer, I think, is massive government failure -- failure to heed decades of hurricane warnings, failure to carry out essential projects to protect citizens and their property, failure to fund life-saving construction, failure to adopt policies that would keep the energy markets open. The causes of that failure are numerous, but here are a couple. First, governments at all levels capitulated to environmental ideologies that put wetlands above people. Another is decision-making processes that are wracked by politics and ignorant of market forces. Democrat or Republican, the inability of politicians and governments to make sound decisions and fulfill their responsibilities is at the heart of the New Orleans disaster. These same people are now in charge of saving the city. http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=8faa b9b8-c820-43a9-985b-9f6809d63afd or http://snipurl.com/him9 -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 7 16:54:16 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 7 16:54:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on the depravity of New Orleans Message-ID: <00b601c5b407$754034c0$d0c5bc41@mikey> A Two-City Tale New Orleans and Houston offer a study in contrasts. by Noemie Emery 09/06/2005 4:36:00 PM Late last week, as New Orleans was sliding into savage conditions, some talking heads were glowing with pleasure at the idea of a moral meltdown of such immense proportions that it would not only bury George Bush in its rubble, but erode forever the country's self confidence. Or, as Robert Scheer would happily write, "Instead of the much-celebrated American can-do machine that promises to bring freedom and prosperity to less fortunate people abroad, we have seen a callous official incompetence that puts even Third World rulers to shame." Not quite. The reason New Orleans slid so quickly from civilization into Third World conditions was that it was pretty much a Third World city already, and didn't have too far to go. In its violence, in its corruption, in its reliance on ambience and tourism as its critical industry, in its one-party rule, in its model of graftocracy built on a depressed and crime-ridden underclass that was largely kept out of the sight and the mind of vacationing revelers, it was much more like a Caribbean resort than a normal American city. Its crime and murder rates were way above national averages, its corruption level astounding. The latter was written off as being picturesque and perversely adorable, until it suddenly wasn't, as it paid off in hundreds of buses--that could have borne thousands of stranded people to safety--sitting submerged in water, and police either looting or AWOL. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/017iioip.a sp or: http://snipurl.com/himc -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 7 18:53:30 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 7 18:53:53 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <20050907161519.17732.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 07, 2005 09:15:19 AM Message-ID: <20050908015330.45656.qmail@mall-net.com> > > WELL I WENT LAST NIGHT! > > Good! > > > IT WAS PRETTY COOL; THOUGH THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION; > How did you feel out there? Details? > > I FELT OKAY; THOUGH THE AIR WAS NOT PERFECTLY FRESH, AS THE ARKASAS RIVER, HERE IN TULSA, IS HEAVILY POLLUTED WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT ALL. Well, this is good news. > Was it harder to breathe? > > NO. > Did you cough a lot? > > IT SEEMS LIKE I COUGHED A FEW TIMES, BUT IT WAS MINIMAL. > > Was your head ringing or spinning? > > NO. Ok.! > Any difficulty with coordination? > > NO. > Was it harder to think? > > YES. Power lines can do that to some people. > I've been under some heavy power lines. I don't like it. I seems > harder to think. 60hz brain wave entrainment, as per Hutchinson's book > on those devices; and the experiments with the coils. > > > I WALKED TO A LOCAL BAR LAST NIGHT AND HAD A FEW BEERS; ON THE WAY BACK, THROUGH MY OBSERVATION, I NOTICED THAT THE CABLE NETWORK HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMLAND TULSA, IS POWERED BY ALPHA POWER SUPPLIES. if you had a few bears and got on your bike and made it home, your doing rather well. When my Igor has had ONE beer, I can't even be in the car with him an hour later for the metabolites he is exhaling. Something inside me is badly broken and it does not clean up alcohol metabolites. > IT MAKES ME WONDER IF AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER, ALPHA POWER SUPPLY CORPORATION, AND COX COMMUNE-ICATIONS ARE IN BED TOGETHER, FOR BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; FOR LOW FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC DISTORTION INTERFERENCE TO BRAINWAVES , AND FOR OTHER 'SINISTER' REASONS BEHIND THE SCENES; LIKE USING GROUND LOOP DETECTION, FOR TRIGGERING THE TELEPHONE SURVEILLANCE, FOR CALEA; FOR THE USE OF ALL ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCERS THAT ARE TIED TO UNPROTECTED ELECTRONICS AND APPLIANCES FOR SURVEILLANCE REASONS; BACK AMPLIFIED, AND FILTERED BY THE WEALTHY 'FOLKS' ; (BY THE WEALTHY FUCKERS) IN THE COMMUNE-ICATIONS INDUSTRY/IES, AND IN THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION INTRAFUCKTURE(S). That kind of modulation of AC current would basically render many appliances not very functional. they are not modulating AC current, they are placing another carrier on the lines. > A SOMEWHAT PARANOID THOUGHT: > > COULD IT BE POSSIBLE; > > COULD THERE BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY, THAT BRAINWAVES HAVE ENOUGH FIELD STRENGTH AROUND THE CRANIUM, TO MODULATE THE HIGH STRENGTH ELECTOMAGNETIC FIELD OF FLORESCENT LIGHT BULBS, WHEN THE BULBS ARE POWERED??? Absolutely not. However... if you are refering to street lights that go out when you approach them... making it appear you are some kind of sinister dark power... We've answered this question before in various forums. As these lights age and overheat, they will turn off. They might blink a few times before turning off. You pass many, many, many street lights. But you remember the ones that go off as you approach them. (And you don't see the ones that go off as you walk away.) So this in an artifact of memory, not supernatural or mad scientific power. Your brain generates maybe 10 watts at the most. A street light may be 500 or 1000 watts. Your brain produces a chaos of frequencies for a total output of 10 watts. The street light puts 1000 watts at 60hz So it is highly unlikely that your brain will make any difference what so ever. > MONEY AND ANTI-MONEY AGAIN, LIMIT THE POTENTIALS OF MY ABILITY TO EXPERIMENT IN THOSE AREAS OF CONTEMPLATION. Again, don't think of things is such stereotypical ways. > > IT IS NO WONDER WHY I AM SO NEUROLOGICALLY DAMAGED NOW; Yes indeed, stereotypical thinking can do that... -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 7 19:14:02 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 7 19:14:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Even more unintelligent design! Message-ID: <000501c5b41a$fb4e28c0$d0c5bc41@mikey> NATURAL SELECTIONS SEQUENCING SUCCESS Could chimp genome answer Plato's question? By ROWAN HOOPER In the 1960s, Toshisada Nishida, of Kyoto University, set up a long-term research project in the Mahale Mountains of Tanzania. His aim was to study our closest relatives in the wild. His work, and that of Jane Goodall, whose field site was some 170 km north, in Gombe, transformed the way we view chimps. Now, with completion last week of the chimp genome sequence, our view will again change. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fe20050908rh.htm From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 7 20:16:50 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 7 20:16:54 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New theory for supernovae Message-ID: <000901c5b423$c0f27f60$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1 From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 7 20:59:16 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 7 20:59:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: More on the depravity of New Orleans In-Reply-To: <00b601c5b407$754034c0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 07, 2005 07:54:16 PM Message-ID: <20050908035916.6958.qmail@mall-net.com> > Not quite. The reason New Orleans slid so quickly from civilization into > Third World conditions was that it was pretty much a Third World city > already, and didn't have too far to go. In its violence, in its = > corruption, Governor Blanco refused to sign over contol of the Louisiana National Guard to Federal control. Louisiana burro-crats blocked the setting up of mobile hospitals, which then went to other states. Doctors signing up for service via the AMA's emergency system were refused authorization to practice medicine in Louisiana. Governor Blanco said this was all about structure and control. She simply refused to allow anyone else control. http://www.mall-net.com/katrina.html -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 21:04:59 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Wed Sep 7 21:05:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New theory for supernovae In-Reply-To: <000901c5b423$c0f27f60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050908040459.64930.qmail@web51913.mail.yahoo.com> MB, neat article! that's two pots of chili I owe you... Bob (collecting the peppers...) Warning! I like chili that has at least 3 burns: the up front burn of wasabi, the regular burn of cayenne (in measuring cups), and the nice slow burn of cumin/black pepper mix. I have no taste buds left... --- Michael Best wrote: > http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1 > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 7 23:26:43 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 7 23:26:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Reminder web addresses; Part seven. In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050908062643.68465.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> I'M GOING AHEAD AND SENDING WHAT I HAVE HERE, OF THE SEVENTH LIST OF WEB ADDRESSES. I'LL BE ADDING MORE TO IT LATER. CLYDE Reminder web addresses; Part seven: 1. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net 2. http://www.newenergymovement.org/ 3. http://www.newenergymovement.org/newenergyp1.aspx 4. http://www.tshirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/chen.html?Category_Code=newr 5. http://mmae.iit.edu/atesr_lab/PowerMEMS.html 6. http://www.ttivanguard.com/montrealreconn/powerMEMS.pdf 7. http://microfluids.engin.brown.edu/Breuer_Papers/Conferences/AIAA97-1773_Microengine.pdf#search='MICRO%20TURBINE%20POWER%20MEMS' 8. http://www.stormingmedia.us/44/4465/A446583.html 9. http://smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian/issues02/jul02/phenomena.html 10. http://robots.net/article/1319.html 11. http://me.mit.edu/NewsandCalendar/Data/0503111430Sesptein.htm 12. http://www.geocities.com/dfradella/homepage.htm 13. http://rpm2.8k.com/basics.htm 14. http://rpm2.8k.com/compare.htm 15. http://www.newswise.com/articles/view?id=FLYBATT.IEE 16. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/seta/2002/05/16/stories/2002051600130200.htm 17. http://energy.sourceguides.com/businesses/byP/batP/batt/btora/bType/fly/fly.shtml 18. http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT/2003/7000/7725Konno.html 19. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/fly.html 20. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/flysb1.html 21. http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/general_info/flywheel.html 22. http://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArticle.asp?strArticleID=56579&strSite=MDSite&Screen=CURRENTISSUE 23. http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6473980 24. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/pressrelease/0402/0402fly.pdf#search='flywheel20batteries' 25. http://regen.0catch.com/facts.htm 26. http://www.aspes.ch/faq.html 27. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/battery-01a.html 28. http://www.upei.ca/~physics/p261/projects/flywheel1/flywheel1.htm 29. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_flywheel_technology_helps/ 30. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_cure_battery_blues/ 31. http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=04-015 32. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/lev.html 33. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/pedestal.html 34. http://www.gh.wits.ac.za/ 35. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446533173/002-6431563-9689615 36. http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/6/emw248814.htm 37. http://www.oragenics.com/ 38. http://www.tomsofmaine.com 39. http://www.jason-natural.com 40. http://www.WholeGrainsCouncil.org 41. http://www.americanantigravity.com/godinroschin.html 42. http://www.esotericscience.com/FreeEnergy.aspx 43. http://www.rexresearch.com/ 44. http://amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050907/895b00c3/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Sep 8 10:10:38 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Sep 8 10:10:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state Message-ID: <000f01c5b498$3cc29160$d0c5bc41@mikey> According to reports, there are still 5,000-10,000 residents left in New Orleans, most all on high ground above the flood waters, with generators for power, sufficient food and water, and refusing to leave their homes to the looters (looters which include the New Orleans Police Department). But the African mayor of New Orleans is ordering these individuals removed by use of force! Who owns the land they live on, the houses they live in? The Government or the Individual? These people are safe, they are prepared, and they desire to remain- in order to protect their lives, homes, and possessions against the anarchy of the disaster- but the Government will remove them by force, likely destroying their lives. Government welfare comes with a horrendous price! Individuals cannot "opt-out" of the welfare state; they will be forced, at gunpoint, to cede their personal property for the "greater good." Whether by taxation or "eminent domain," all personal property belongs to the welfare state! The deception that we live in a Capitalist society is maintained simply to prevent the economic collapse that would result if hard-working believers in the American Dream were to realize that we actually live in a Socialist welfare state- the same economic collapse that destroyed the USSR. WHY should a property owner be FORCED from his property by the Government, whether or not he is in danger? IT IS HIS CHOICE! NOT the Government's. He ostensibly owns the land; it is his slice of God's green Earth! NO ONE, not even the Government, has the right to remove him from HIS property! NO MATTER WHAT! But this is not the Socialist Police State we live in today. "I'm from the Government, and I know what's best for you," is the mantra for the 21st century. This would be laughable, were it not so very true. These landowner holdouts in New Orleans are the ones with the valid reason to take up arms against the Government, not the criminal looters taking potshots against relief helicopters. And I hope and pray that some brave men in New Orleans resist the mandatory evacuation order with force of arms. "From time to time the tree of liberty must be fertilized with the blood of patriots." -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 8 10:52:15 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 8 10:52:17 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <000f01c5b498$3cc29160$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 08, 2005 01:10:38 PM Message-ID: <20050908175215.13669.qmail@mall-net.com> > > According to reports, there are still 5,000-10,000 residents left in New > Orleans, most all on high ground above the flood waters, with generators = > for power, sufficient food and water, and refusing to leave their homes to = > the looters (looters which include the New Orleans Police Department). > > But the African mayor of New Orleans is ordering these individuals = > removed by use of force! > > Who owns the land they live on, the houses they live in? The Government = > or the Individual? That is for Chief Justice Roberts to determine... But remember, the property can not be stolen without due process, and has to be compensated for in some reasonable manner. Something a little higher than letting the individual live. And what they are doing thus far, is merely pressuring the residents to leave, not forcibly removing them. As the police, etc. said, first policy is to show force, not use it. Later, after enough leave, they may reconsider. And... Who elected those bozo's anyway? The Residents! Some sold their votes, others didn't object. Now the bill is due. > These people are safe, they are prepared, and they desire to remain- in > order to protect their lives, homes, and possessions against the anarchy > of the disaster- but the Government will remove them by force, likely > destroying their lives. But, the current situation is untenable. No utilities, water with fecal counts ten times that acceptable, etc. > WHY should a property owner be FORCED from his property by the = > Government, whether or not he is in danger? IT IS HIS CHOICE! NOT the = > Government's. He ostensibly owns the land; it is his slice of God's green > Earth! NO ONE, > not even the Government, has the right to remove him from HIS property! = > NO MATTER WHAT! Excuse me? there is adequate precedent for such removal in common law dating back to English Custom. > "From time to time the tree of liberty must be fertilized with the blood = > of patriots." Sandra Day O'Connor should be raised to Chief Justice, not retired. She voted against eminent domain. As to fertilizing the soil, there is plenty of good quality fertilizer available in Washington, every state capital, and most municipalities. We will get no better government than we vote for. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 8 11:37:56 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 8 11:38:01 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking Over the World In-Reply-To: <20050908175215.13669.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 08, 2005 05:52:15 PM Message-ID: <20050908183756.45513.qmail@mall-net.com> According to our charter (or somebody's charter), we are supposed to work at taking over the world. To this end, one has to ask in what manner? Mega-weapons? Too much carnage, and psychological trauma reduces the cooperation of slaves. They may work harder, but they work dumber. Our robots can do better than that! Operating Systems? Moronsloth is already working on this scheme, and they are a little hard to beat. We await the victory of Linux, after which we can consider assimilating them. Computer viruses? Too hard to keep our own computers virus free. Besides, it's immoral, unethical, and sitting in front of the computer all the time really is fattening! So why not buy portions of the world outright? !!! The UN has just released a list of poverty stricken kleptocratic or graftoholic nations which should not be too hard to buy. The plan would be this. Buy a nation. Kenya is probably a good one, as it's government knows and admits the problem. Nigeria is probably too corrupt. Clean all the graft while putting the people to work, presumably by renting them out to various multi-national (and possibly multi-global) corporations. Even we, ignorant of economics as we are, can probably do better than any kleptocrats who care only about their own wallets. Advertise the fact that our new government has created some semblance of wealth. (Read the works of Potemkin, not the Eastern Cadillac dealer, the Russian who built Potemkin Villages.) Suggest that other nations may join our "greater scientific employment alliance" by allowing us to rule them. (And offer kickbacks to the kleptocrats, pointing out that this is safer than revolution.) With the current state of Kenya, even us poor mad scientists should be able to afford to run for President. Mike? Are you up for the challenge? -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Thu Sep 8 12:08:03 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Thu Sep 8 12:08:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking Over the World In-Reply-To: <20050908183756.45513.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050908190803.69881.qmail@web51914.mail.yahoo.com> Javilk, how about we set up clean water distillation units, cheap power plants, and some good wireless nodes (and sell the services). then we can buy up increasingly large sections of kenya, while looking like concerned people. (not true, of course! we're in it for the power!) Bob --- javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > According to our charter (or somebody's > charter), we are supposed > to work at taking over the world. > > To this end, one has to ask in what manner? > > Mega-weapons? Too much carnage, and > psychological trauma reduces > the cooperation of slaves. They may work harder, > but they work dumber. > Our robots can do better than that! > > Operating Systems? Moronsloth is already > working on this scheme, > and they are a little hard to beat. We await the > victory of Linux, > after which we can consider assimilating them. > > Computer viruses? Too hard to keep our own > computers virus free. > Besides, it's immoral, unethical, and sitting in > front of the computer > all the time really is fattening! > > So why not buy portions of the world outright? > !!! > > The UN has just released a list of poverty > stricken kleptocratic or > graftoholic nations which should not be too hard to > buy. > > The plan would be this. > > Buy a nation. Kenya is probably a good one, as > it's government > knows and admits the problem. Nigeria is probably > too corrupt. > > Clean all the graft while putting the people to > work, presumably by > renting them out to various multi-national (and > possibly multi-global) > corporations. Even we, ignorant of economics as we > are, can probably do > better than any kleptocrats who care only about > their own wallets. > > Advertise the fact that our new government has > created some > semblance of wealth. (Read the works of Potemkin, > not the Eastern > Cadillac dealer, the Russian who built Potemkin > Villages.) > > Suggest that other nations may join our > "greater scientific > employment alliance" by allowing us to rule them. > (And offer kickbacks > to the kleptocrats, pointing out that this is safer > than revolution.) > > With the current state of Kenya, even us poor > mad scientists should > be able to afford to run for President. > > Mike? Are you up for the challenge? > > -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ > www.mall-net.com/javilk > --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- > and You! --------------- > --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to > cancel the show, would we? -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. > All rights reserved. > Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com > http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 8 12:20:02 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 8 12:20:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking Over the World In-Reply-To: <20050908190803.69881.qmail@web51914.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert Juliano" at Sep 08, 2005 12:08:03 PM Message-ID: <20050908192002.72250.qmail@mall-net.com> > how about we set up clean water distillation units, > cheap power plants, and some good wireless nodes (and > sell the services). then we can buy up increasingly > large sections of kenya, while looking like concerned > people. (not true, of course! we're in it for the > power!) Ah, you make things so much more complixated! When you can buy their votes for pennies, why invest millions of dollars in what you can get them to build for themselves with a little bit of suggestion??? And you probably don't want them looking at the internet till you educate them on how to read. I mean, you don't vant them to dissert the nation for America, do you? So vy sho dem der pictures of America? Always you use der carrot just ahead of their noses, so they can be enticed to do der vork you vant dem to do, no? Wireless is too far ahead for dem to see. First reading, den der electric lichts, maybe der telephone, and den der computers maybe by 2050. -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Sep 8 14:42:51 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Thu Sep 8 14:43:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). Message-ID: <105.6820e5d7.30520a5b@aol.com> In a message dated 9/7/2005 12:16:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: AFTER STUDYING SOME CRUDE SCHEMATICS IN THE PAST, REGARDING CRUDE MODULATION TECHNIQUES, OF THE PAST AND PRESENT, IT DOES INDEED MAKE ME WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY THAT BRAINWAVES CAN MODULATE THE E.M. FIELDS OF POWERED FLORESCENT BULBS, WHICH THE CORRESPONDING MODULATIONS MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO BE REGISTERED ON AN ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH CAN BE FILTERED AND TRANSLATED. Hi Clyde, That is a very interesting thought. I can see no way that's practical to carry out that experiment. Say a subject is placed in a room with florescent lights a couple inches from the skull. where would the encephalogram be, over the top of the head, under the chin, where? Say some sort of reaction is noted on said E-Gram, You may see a part of the brain react, but would it not be in reaction of the subject to the present situation? Way back in the 50ies, all kinds of experiments were begun on monkeys, tops of heads removed, electro-probes placed in various parts of the brain. I probably should not be saying this, but everyone who was part of this program, is most likely dead by now, or in their late 80ies or 90ies. What the heck, the project -must be declassified by now!!!!! Anyway, back to the monkeys, when a button was presses current went into the part of the brain controlling hunger. Monkey would eat, Stop the current, monkey would reject food. That was not the only function the electrodes controlled, really weird the little guys with the glass domes covering the top of their heads. This is the only true mind control I know of, except brain washing. Years later my dad showed me pictures of myself,, all of 3 perhaps ,standing in front of a glass enclosure with the poor things behind me. Dad told me the experiments were headed by a couple of "liberated" doctors that we brought to America from Germany after ww2. This building was on the navy base in Groton Conn, it had to be military sponsored to be there. The chief scientist had been a u boat captain and loved to tell stories about the eastern seacoast towns, and cities he had seen through a parascope. We have done lots of odd experiments through the military ever since man picked up a rock and bounced it off his neighbors head . I can suppose you don't have to look too far to find some person who, for the right price will agree to having the top of his/her head cut off. Russia began the experiments on twins, ESP. and the so called Far Seeing in the early 70ies. We in return formed Star Gate, spent millions of dollars to keep in step with the Russians. Edger Casey was an interesting man, I have read all his books, first few books had me sold, then when he wrote about Atlantis, I turned off. Perhaps the man went ga-ga from the stress. The best way I believe to read minds is good old fashion body language. Tons of books out there about the subject. It is a good thing to get up on that subject, you will learn how to control your own body to give a good impression to everyone. You can tell when someone is lying to you, feeling defensive and how people feel about each other. This is a new science, The FBI and police are schooled in this science, they can tell in a heart beat not exactly what a person is thinking, but how the person feels and thinks on a deeper level by their own unknowing actions. Practice Clyde, read and observe others around you. You will know how your boss feels about other employees just by watching them interact. Helps with family too, you will be able to tell when to back off discussions with them, you can tell when Grandma begins to gets weird before SHE begins to titch. You will know when you are getting into a conversation how to either SHUT UP or change tactic. Best of all, once you learn to read others, then you know the unconscious signals you may be giving to others about yourself. We all give ourselves away to others not knowing we are doing it. The others pick up our signals, and react, not thinking about it, but instinct takes over. Ever met someone you on first meeting didn't trust ????? Your subconscious was reading the signals they were sending, ie, eye movement, posture, speech inflection. This new science is at this time the only way you can read minds, the advisors to world leaders are paid buco bucks to instruct our leaders on body language. But the subconscious is very, very, strong and every one slips no matter how well rehearsed. Money is short for you, so since you use your local library, using their computer, do some research on Body Language, when you find a book that you think will help you to research this subject, have the library find the book for you, may take a week but they borrow from colleges and 50 state wide library systems. You may be surprised, the neighbors you think are bothering you may in fact be willing to be a friend, it may be YOU who is giving the wrong signals. Give it a try, wont cost you anything and is fun to boot. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050908/6e7e6f03/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Sep 8 18:04:53 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Sep 8 18:04:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking Over the World In-Reply-To: <20050908190002.0EEBF3982A@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <003201c5b4da$7d5882b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:37:56 +0000 (GMT) > From: javilk@mall-net.com > According to our charter (or somebody's charter), we are supposed > to work at taking over the world. > > To this end, one has to ask in what manner? The game is Choker, a melding of chess and poker. > Mega-weapons? Too much carnage, and psychological trauma reduces > the cooperation of slaves. They may work harder, but they work dumber. > Our robots can do better than that! > > Operating Systems? Moronsloth is already working on this scheme, > and they are a little hard to beat. We await the victory of Linux, > after which we can consider assimilating them. See: http://ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54 > Computer viruses? Too hard to keep our own computers virus free. > Besides, it's immoral, unethical, and sitting in front of the computer > all the time really is fattening! We could also use the MSM (main-stream media), just like the current rulers do- or perhaps blogs and chatrooms. > So why not buy portions of the world outright? !!! YES! PERFECT idea! > The UN has just released a list of poverty stricken kleptocratic or > graftoholic nations which should not be too hard to buy. > > The plan would be this. > > Buy a nation. Kenya is probably a good one, as it's government > knows and admits the problem. Nigeria is probably too corrupt. > > Clean all the graft while putting the people to work, presumably by > renting them out to various multi-national (and possibly multi-global) > corporations. Even we, ignorant of economics as we are, can probably do > better than any kleptocrats who care only about their own wallets. > > Advertise the fact that our new government has created some > semblance of wealth. (Read the works of Potemkin, not the Eastern > Cadillac dealer, the Russian who built Potemkin Villages.) > > Suggest that other nations may join our "greater scientific > employment alliance" by allowing us to rule them. (And offer kickbacks > to the kleptocrats, pointing out that this is safer than revolution.) > > With the current state of Kenya, even us poor mad scientists should > be able to afford to run for President. This could well work! It leverages the most basic human desire- GREED. Properly presented, the ignorant sheep will never know what happened until it's a done deal! We offer free training in "boiler room" and "help desk," as well as English as a second language. Then we rent out our subjects to MS, AOL, PacBell, etc., for a pittance, assisting the offshoring of US jobs. After we have a significant market share, we then propose a "technical alliance" with Red China, soon to be the world's largest consumer market. We'll be using the proven techniques of history's greatest conquerors! > Mike? Are you up for the challenge? Hell YES!! Excellent idea, John! A benevolent dictatorship is FAR better than a selfish kleptocracy, or a graftoholic oligarchy! And we could be rich, Rich, RICH!!! (Of course, we would use the revenues to further the peaceful progress of Science. Develop fusion power, reactionless propulsion, and colonize the stars and oceans!) Let's do it! But we mustn't let our now-found power go to our heads. -MB From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Thu Sep 8 18:34:53 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Thu Sep 8 18:35:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Taking Over the World In-Reply-To: <003201c5b4da$7d5882b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050909013453.20624.qmail@web51915.mail.yahoo.com> MB, why can't we let the new-found power go to our heads? I was looking forward to having delusions of adequacy. Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > > Let's do it! > > But we mustn't let our now-found power go to our > heads. > > -MB > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 8 19:50:20 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 8 19:50:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another step towards fusion power In-Reply-To: <20050902025419.7906.qmail@web51914.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050909025020.82249.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote: MB, sweet! (tho' I was figuring we could grab the neutrons to enrich standard hydrogen into deuterium/tritium.) Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > And this one is aneutronic- clean. No 2.4 Mev > neutrons to shield! > http://snipurl.com/hcrf GOOD! NOW LET'S GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD TO GLOBAL COOPERATION, AND MASS SCALE PRODUCTION, IF POSSIBLE. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050908/14adbe8e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 8 19:58:56 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 8 19:59:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CLATHRATES, POWER MEM MICRO TURBINES, AND.... Message-ID: <20050909025856.5404.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> HOW WOULD JUMPING ON CLATHRATES IN COMBINATION WITH POWER MEM MICRO TURBINES BE, IF IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED ON A UNIFIED AMERICAN WAR MACHINE SPEED MASS SCALE PRODUCTION, TO BENEFIT US ALL? I STILL THINK THAT THE WAR MACHINE NEEDS TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE HEALTH MACHINE, FOR US ALL, EQUALLY. WHAT I TYPED ABOVE MAY BE OUT OF ORDER, BUT MY MING IS NOT THINKING PERFECTLY STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW. I'M TIRED. LATER, CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050908/d7db6e67/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 8 23:03:40 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 8 23:03:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CLATHRATES, POWER MEM MICRO TURBINES, AND.... In-Reply-To: <20050909025856.5404.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 08, 2005 07:58:56 PM Message-ID: <20050909060340.35354.qmail@mall-net.com> > HOW WOULD JUMPING ON CLATHRATES IN > COMBINATION WITH POWER MEM MICRO > TURBINES BE, IF IT COULD BE > ACCOMPLISHED ON A UNIFIED AMERICAN > WAR MACHINE SPEED MASS SCALE > PRODUCTION, TO BENEFIT US ALL? War machine speed is only available when the government feels there is a war. Energy is produced by private corporations. Remember, government rations scarcity, while private industry produces plenty. Last time the government intervened, we got even-odd gas rationing. And the pollychickens call hydrogen a source of energy, when it clearly is not. > I STILL THINK THAT THE WAR MACHINE > NEEDS TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE > HEALTH MACHINE, FOR US ALL, EQUALLY. The technologies, even the philosophies are not compatible. That requires something other than a war machine. What, a General commanding a call bladder removal operation? We already had Nixon's war on cancer. NOTHING was accomplished other than wasting a lot of our tax dollars. > WHAT I TYPED ABOVE MAY BE OUT OF > ORDER, BUT MY MING IS NOT THINKING > PERFECTLY STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW. > I'M TIRED. Get some sleep. Whenever I get tired, I take a snooze. As one boss told me, it's ok for programmers to take naps, as long as the work gets done. (We don't bill them for the naps...) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 9 00:09:16 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 9 00:09:22 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Brave New World? Message-ID: <005a01c5b50d$64d218e0$d0c5bc41@mikey> September 09, 2005, _The Times_, London Scientists win right to create human embryo with three genetic parents By Mark Henderson Critics claim that watchdog has ignored public opinion to approve experiment for which it changed its own rules BRITISH scientists have been given permission to create human embryos that will have three genetic parents. The fertility watchdog cleared a team at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne yesterday to conduct an experiment to prevent genetic disease by merging single-cell embryos with donated eggs. The decision to approve the procedure on appeal, after two previous applications were rejected, is controversial because it could eventually lead to the birth of children who carry genes from two mothers and a father. It also opens the possibility of "germ-line" genetic engineering, because any children born would carry added genes that would be passed to successive generations. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1772135,00.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 04:30:15 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 9 04:30:25 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALLOPATHIC DOCTORALISM. Message-ID: <20050909113015.74590.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> I AM SICK OF ALLOPATHIC DOCTOTRALISM. CHEMISTRY HAS SICKENED ME. WITH NO END AND NO HOPE IN SIGHT, OTHER THAN ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT; A FINANCIAL FUTURE THAT IS SCREWED; VERY LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY INCOME, AND BAD HEALTH. WHAT DOES A PERSON DO? CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050909/49c546c7/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 9 09:36:18 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 9 09:36:21 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALLOPATHIC DOCTORALISM. In-Reply-To: <20050909113015.74590.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 09, 2005 04:30:15 AM Message-ID: <20050909163618.52841.qmail@mall-net.com> > I AM SICK OF ALLOPATHIC DOCTOTRALISM. So find an orthomolecular doctor. > CHEMISTRY HAS SICKENED ME. > WITH NO END AND NO HOPE IN SIGHT, Bull! There is as much hope as you are willing to seek. > OTHER THAN ELECTROMAGNETIC > BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT; A FINANCIAL > FUTURE THAT IS SCREWED; VERY LITTLE Are you under a quarter million dollars of debt? No? A hundred thousand dollars of debt? No? Then your future is not screwed. It's just a matter of LOOKING for more profitable ways to return to society. You are not a robot only capable of stacking crates in a furniture warehouse. You are a living, thinking human being who can get out and do things ranging from chasing down antelope for lunch, to helping build a huge building. I don't know what you can do, Clyde; but the fact that you can get about, visit libraries, hold down a job in some kind of store is rather good! I'm stuck on a mountain. I can't stay down in civilization for more than an hour or so unless the wind is moving fast enough. We're also both on the internet, which is better than a library, because you don't have to spend hours at a card catalog trying to figure out what books might have what you need. You have a heck of a lot more opportunities than I do. All you have to do, is look for them. They are out there. Opportunity does not knock but once. They are like mud sticking to your feet, tangling you, slowing you down as it tries to get you to look at it. You think it's an impediment to where you want to go; but it's an opportunity to help out others in the same predicament, and make some bucks doing it. Here's the mind set: You have to go drive half way across town for gasoline. So does everyone else in your town. Print a flyer saying you will drive their car to the gas station and fill it up for them for $X. Ask how many days between fillups. (You may need additional insurance.) After you get enough customers, you either hire others to do the work, or rent a pickup truck and a big tank in the back for gasoline. As you get more customers and more income, you lease that truck and tank on better terms. Eventually, you might buy a small fleet of gasoline trucks. You're a business! It snows every winter. Back breaking work shoveling out. You get a snow blower. You offer your neighbors the service of cleaning out their driveway. You're a small businessman! Ok, so it's not a sure thing; but it does make some money. Enough that eventually, you buy a truck with a plow, and do more driveways. You're a business! The grass grows. It's the dumbest thing we do, put a lawn around our homes. You can either replace it with some other plants that don't require mowing, and after your lawn looks really nice without mowing, do it for your neighbors for cash, or mow for others. It's a business. Levin wrote some books on that. I think one was about 555 opportunities to earn money, another was How to "Earn a Living Without a Job" Any problem you have to solve for yourself is an opportunity to do it for others for cash! Anything from helping the inept get dates, to building rocket ships for NASA. (Though the competition is tougher at NASA.) > AMOUNT OF MONEY INCOME, AND BAD > HEALTH. > WHAT DOES A PERSON DO? Look at the bright side and chase opportunities. Sure, only on in a hundred will pan out, and only one in ten thousand will make you a million dollars. But if you don't look for and chase opportunities, you won't create a better life for yourself. Like I said, when I could work in the valley, I'd pick up my phone and start collecting No's. usually, before I got ten thousand No's, I got a yes, and I was off and running for another six months. It was a good business! Remember, opportunities are like the mud sticking to your feet. You just have to find someone else who wants that mud cleaned off their shoes. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 11:31:03 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 9 11:31:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050908175215.13669.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050909183103.44223.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > "From time to time the tree of liberty must be fertilized with the blood = > of patriots." Sandra Day O'Connor should be raised to Chief Justice, not retired. She voted against eminent domain. AFTER DRIVING AROUND AND LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE RUN DOWN INDUSTRIAL SLUM SHIT CONDEMNED BUILDINGS HERE IN TULSA, ESPECIALLY IN DOWNSLUM TULSA, MAYBE COMMUNIST DOMAIN MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD THING AFTER ALL, THAT IS; ONLY IF IT LIMITED 'TO A CERTAIN EXTENT', BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS SHITTY: ONLY IF WE THE PEOPLE OF TULSA ARE MADE AWARE IN FULL LAYMENS TERMS AHEAD OF TIME, AS TO WHAT THE POSSIBLE BUILDING DEMOLITION SITES WILL BE, SO THAT THERE WILL NOT BE SO MUCH FUSSING AND FIGHTING; ALSO WITH THE LAND OWNERS GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY THAT IS TO BE REDONE. As to fertilizing the soil, there is plenty of good quality fertilizer available in Washington, every state capital, and most municipalities. YEAH; ALL OF THE BLOOD OF ALL OF THE WORTHLESS POLITICIANS. AS A PERSON LAST MONTH, WHO I WILL LEAVE UNNAMED SAID: "FUCK ALL POLITICIANS!" We will get no better government than we vote for. AND FUCK THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS TOO, WITH AN INFINITELY SHARP, AND ENDLESSLY SHARP BARBED SWORD, UP THE ASS! I'M TIRED. NEED TO GO FOR NOW. CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you ever read about what the defectors said about their neighborhoods? I had an ex-sov wife, a defector. (She was probably defective in other ways too... Mostly, I think, made that way by the soviet system.) I heard the stories. Communism is worse than we expect. NO ONE CARES if the roof is leaking, if everyone leaves their stoves cooking, or their faucets running, if things are wasted! NO ONE CARES if anything works, because NOTHING WORKS ANYWAY!!! Nothing is supposed to work in the soviet union! EVERYONE is a their, because that's the only way they can survive! They steal the windshield wipers off your car if you leave them in, so whenever there is a rainstorm, all the cars stop and people put in their windshield wipers. How would you like to live in a place that is that crooked? !!! Communism is a total sham for the politburo! And the political commissar will have you put on psychiatric drugs to destroy your brain if you DARE say anything about nothing working. It is ALL lies that you have to repeat over and over and over again or you are going to be tortured as a way of "re-education", as a way of treating "sluggish schizophrenia" as they call it! If you make too much noise, they won't bother with the drugs, they'll just have the KGB kill you! And if you show any real initiative, your co-workers will make sure you are accidently killed, because they don't want to work! I thought communism was bad. What I heard from my ex-wife in the few months we were really talking, made it sound like the most evil thing since the witch burning times! > ALSO WITH THE LAND OWNERS GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY THAT IS TO BE REDONE. > As to fertilizing the soil, there is plenty of good quality > fertilizer available in Washington, every state capital, and most > municipalities. > > YEAH; ALL OF THE BLOOD OF ALL OF THE WORTHLESS POLITICIANS. No! I'm talking about all the wood pulp and BS. People are people. Do not hate them for being human. Hate blinds YOU to YOUR OWN faults; when you hate, you attribute all your own weaknesses to the person you hate. And in doing so, you start to hate yourself. Hate becomes all consuming. By the time your hate is burning, you are worth less to yourself than the person you hate. I read some interesting books on getting back at people they hate. I saw how hate builds till it becomes revenge, becomes all consuming, destroying everything. The two things that consume more time than you have, are revenge and fear of revenge. You end up dying from stupid auto accidents or other stupidity caused by lack of sleep. I have seen first hand what it does to people, how it twists them into vile, ugly beings. And the time that hate burns up lets entropy slowly destroy your life; because you are not paying attention to your needs and the opportunities that come your way. Hate is a crime against yourself. Spend your time looking for opportunities rather than hating. I do not even hate my ex-wife who tried to kill me to get a green card. Living well is the best revenge! For it justifies you, and totally nullifies what others want to think about you. It makes them feel small, which is the worst long term thing you can do to anyone. And it's not your fault if they feel small due to your success, and their stupidity in wasting all their time hating you. That's THEIR problem! So I say again in another way, don't hate Tulsa. Get on with your life. There are plenty opportunities in Tulsa and elsewhere. > We will get no better government than we vote for. > AND FUCK THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS TOO, WITH AN INFINITELY SHARP, AND ENDLESSLY SHARP BARBED SWORD, UP THE ASS! The UN does do some good things for us... mostly, it delays wars. It lets things play out in the realm of voice longer; and some... some things do dissipate without too much bloodshed. Other things... build like a charge in a capacitor till something explodes. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 9 12:35:31 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 9 12:35:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Evolution of the Brain In-Reply-To: <20050909192055.47067.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 09, 2005 07:20:55 PM Message-ID: <20050909193531.52795.qmail@mall-net.com> Scientists have recently done some genetic studies on the evolution of the brain, which genes, etc. appear to be responsible for brain development, etc. http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20050808222544data_trunc_sys.shtml And as soon as we perfect genetic engineering technologies, you will be able to have a dog that is as intelligent as a moron, rather than an imbicile. (Hate to think how frustrated the dog will be not having hands. I still remember a neighbor's dog, being unable to pry himself loose from a chain and weight he was attached to while the owner was away, trotting ove to me and so persistently licking my hands as if he so wished he had his own hands to get himself free. He didn't want the water or food I brought, he wanted my hands!) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 12:45:41 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 9 12:45:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909192055.47067.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050909194541.56922.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: OK; REGARDING (COMMUNIST) EMINENT DOMAIN; I STILL HATE IT, AND WITH THE TAXATION TO PROSPERITY. BOTH OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION TOO. Living well is the best revenge! For it justifies you, and totally nullifies what others want to think about you. It makes them feel small, which is the worst long term thing you can do to anyone. And it's not your fault if they feel small due to your success, and their stupidity in wasting all their time hating you. That's THEIR problem! YEAH; MY ASSHOLE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE HATE MONGERS, AND DUE TO THEIR INFLUENCE IN MY LIFE, HAVE AMPLIFIED MY HATRED, AND HATRED TOWARD THEM. MY NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE WRETCHES. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THEM ANYMORE. I TRIED TO BE NICE THE OTHER EVENING, AND WAVED TO THE BIMBO OLD BITCH BAG, AND THE ONE OF THINGS SHE HAD TO SAY IN RETURN WAS JUST MISERABLE COMPLAINING. THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM WASTELAND TOWN OF TULSA, MAKES EVERYONE MISERABLE. So I say again in another way, don't hate Tulsa. Get on with your life. There are plenty opportunities in Tulsa and elsewhere. I'VE GOTTA FIND THOSE THINGS; PROBLEM IS; THEY DON'T EXIST HERE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND. COLORADO, OR MAYBE MONTANA, ARE BOTH CALLING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY LIFE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE UP THERE, SINCE I HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN: TULSA. > We will get no better government than we vote for. > AND FUCK THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS TOO, WITH AN INFINITELY SHARP, AND ENDLESSLY SHARP BARBED SWORD, UP THE ASS! The UN does do some good things for us... mostly, it delays wars. It lets things play out in the realm of voice longer; and some... some things do dissipate without too much bloodshed. Other things... build like a charge in a capacitor till something explodes. I SEE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE, IN COMMUNIST CRAP, WORTHLESS CHINA. I HOPE THEY DON'T HAPPEN HERE, ON AMERICAN TURF. I HOPE THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR AMERICA; THIS COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED-EDUCATIONAL SHITSTEM WARZONE, AND THE COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED, DAMN NEAR NOW-TOTALITARIAN CONROLLED-MEDIA WARZONE: MODERN AMERICA. CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050909/2b1d2a28/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 9 13:05:34 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 9 13:05:37 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909194541.56922.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 09, 2005 12:45:41 PM Message-ID: <20050909200534.66845.qmail@mall-net.com> > OK; REGARDING (COMMUNIST) EMINENT DOMAIN; I STILL HATE IT, AND WITH THE TAXATION TO PROSPERITY. > > BOTH OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION TOO. You vote, yes? So you have representation, one vote just like everyone else who votes. Vote intelligently. Promote intelligent voting to multiply your influence. Talk about the issues. Send POLITE letters to your elected representatives. (Remember, if they feel threatened by your letters, they can get you in trouble. So wait a week before mailing them.) > > Living well is the best revenge! For it justifies you, and totally > nullifies what others want to think about you. It makes them feel > small, which is the worst long term thing you can do to anyone. And > it's not your fault if they feel small due to your success, and their > stupidity in wasting all their time hating you. That's THEIR problem! > YEAH; MY ASSHOLE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE HATE MONGERS, AND DUE TO THEIR INFLUENCE IN MY LIFE, HAVE AMPLIFIED MY HATRED, AND HATRED TOWARD THEM. So they are succeeding making you over into a clone of their miserable hate??? > MY NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE WRETCHES. > > I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THEM ANYMORE. > > I TRIED TO BE NICE THE OTHER EVENING, AND WAVED TO THE BIMBO OLD BITCH BAG, AND THE ONE OF THINGS SHE HAD TO SAY IN RETURN WAS JUST MISERABLE COMPLAINING. She talked to you! She told you what is on her mind! Does not sound like she hates you. Did you say anything hopeful? Try that next time. > THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM WASTELAND TOWN OF TULSA, MAKES EVERYONE MISERABLE. Why is it that two people can live next to each other, have similar jobs, and one person is miserable while the other person is happy? Miserable people make themselves miserable. They keep looking at negatives instead of positives, and so take NO ACTION to improve their own lives. > So I say again in another way, don't hate Tulsa. Get on with your > life. There are plenty opportunities in Tulsa and elsewhere. > I'VE GOTTA FIND THOSE THINGS; PROBLEM IS; THEY DON'T EXIST HERE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND. Wrong language indicating wrong thoughts. You have to say, "I have not find them here". That puts the problem into the past, and gives you the responsibility of finding the opportunities, instead of giving away the responsibility to the opportunities, which will not find you. > COLORADO, OR MAYBE MONTANA, ARE BOTH CALLING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY LIFE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE UP THERE, SINCE I HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN: TULSA. So, un-brainwash yourself. Go look up Viktor Belenko, the pilot who defected to the USA by landing his MIG 29 in Japan. Read his book, how he un-brainwashed himself from the soviet lies, and what kind of life he lead in the USSR. It's a good book. What do you need for life support? > I SEE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE, IN COMMUNIST CRAP, WORTHLESS CHINA. Who knows. We saw a lot of that when we were fighting the soviet union. All the air raid drills in school, etc. Didn't happen! Why? Because they wanted to live too. > I HOPE THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR AMERICA; THIS COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED-EDUCATIONAL SHITSTEM WARZONE, AND THE COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED, DAMN NEAR NOW-TOTALITARIAN CONROLLED-MEDIA WARZONE: MODERN AMERICA. Nonsense words having no meaning, only describing what you wish to perceive. Is that what you want to see? There are other viewpoints. More hopeful viewpoints that lead to improvements. You just have to look. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 9 14:20:07 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 9 14:20:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909200534.66845.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 09, 2005 08:05:34 PM Message-ID: <20050909212007.3664.qmail@mall-net.com> Technical correction. Belenko defected in a MIG 25, not a MIG 29. The book was written by John Barron with Viktor Belenko in the early 80's, re-issued as a paperback in 1983. It was quite popular, so your library might have it. It offers a good look at Soviet life and how screwed up it was. The reviews are quite positive, saying it is hard to put down. I agree, it was a darned good book. Not Clancy... but a good read, and an intelligent view of what the Soviet Union was like. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380538687/qid=1126300221/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-1327058-8643359?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 or just go to http://www.amazon.com/ and search for Belenko -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 19:07:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 9 19:07:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909212007.3664.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050910020726.58044.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> JOHN, I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE MUCH TIME TO READ THAT BOOK IF I AM ABLE TO CHECK IT OUT AT THE LIBRARY. I AM NOW QUESTIONING IF AMERICA HAS A FUTURE. ARE WE AT THE EDGE OF WORLD WAR III? WE ARE ALREADY IN THE NEW WORLD DISORDER. IF WORLD WAR III; ALSO CALLED AS: ARMAGEDDON, HAPPENS, HOW DO WE ALL SURVIVE IT? BARTER TRADE WILL BE MANDATORY. SMALL BUSINESS WILL BE MANDATORY. PEACE INDUCING DRUGS, VITAMINS, AND ELECTRICAL TECHNOLOGIES WILL BE MANDATORY. THE CORRUPT GOV'T.; THE RADICAL BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE RADICAL DEMOCRATS, AND THE RADICAL MUSLIMS ARE ALL IN BED TOGETHER, FUCKING ALL OF US LAXPAYERS (YES; I SAID: LAXPAYERS). I HAVE FAITH IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, BUT I AM JUST SO STRESSED OUT AT THE SELLOUT OF THIS COUNTRY, AND THE DETRIMENT TO THE ECONOMY THAT IT HAS BEEN. PRESIDENTS; ALL THE WAY BACK TO NIXON; I QUESTION EACH OF EVERY ONE OF THEIR LOYALTIES TO THIS COUNTRY. ABE LINCOLN WAS MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT. THOMAS JEFFERSON IS NOW MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT. CLYDE javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Technical correction. Belenko defected in a MIG 25, not a MIG 29. The book was written by John Barron with Viktor Belenko in the early 80's, re-issued as a paperback in 1983. It was quite popular, so your library might have it. It offers a good look at Soviet life and how screwed up it was. The reviews are quite positive, saying it is hard to put down. I agree, it was a darned good book. Not Clancy... but a good read, and an intelligent view of what the Soviet Union was like. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380538687/qid=1126300221/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-1327058-8643359?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 or just go to http://www.amazon.com/ and search for Belenko OK. CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050909/3ec983c8/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 19:14:27 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 9 19:14:52 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909200534.66845.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050910021427.8365.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> TULSA REALLY SUCKS. IT IS JUST NO GOOD HERE, AND JUST NO GOOD IN OKLAHOMA. I'LL REPLY MORE LATER. CLYDE javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > OK; REGARDING (COMMUNIST) EMINENT DOMAIN; I STILL HATE IT, AND WITH THE TAXATION TO PROSPERITY. > > BOTH OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION TOO. You vote, yes? So you have representation, one vote just like everyone else who votes. Vote intelligently. Promote intelligent voting to multiply your influence. Talk about the issues. Send POLITE letters to your elected representatives. (Remember, if they feel threatened by your letters, they can get you in trouble. So wait a week before mailing them.) > > Living well is the best revenge! For it justifies you, and totally > nullifies what others want to think about you. It makes them feel > small, which is the worst long term thing you can do to anyone. And > it's not your fault if they feel small due to your success, and their > stupidity in wasting all their time hating you. That's THEIR problem! > YEAH; MY ASSHOLE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE HATE MONGERS, AND DUE TO THEIR INFLUENCE IN MY LIFE, HAVE AMPLIFIED MY HATRED, AND HATRED TOWARD THEM. So they are succeeding making you over into a clone of their miserable hate??? > MY NEIGHBORS ARE MISERABLE WRETCHES. > > I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THEM ANYMORE. > > I TRIED TO BE NICE THE OTHER EVENING, AND WAVED TO THE BIMBO OLD BITCH BAG, AND THE ONE OF THINGS SHE HAD TO SAY IN RETURN WAS JUST MISERABLE COMPLAINING. She talked to you! She told you what is on her mind! Does not sound like she hates you. Did you say anything hopeful? Try that next time. > THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM WASTELAND TOWN OF TULSA, MAKES EVERYONE MISERABLE. Why is it that two people can live next to each other, have similar jobs, and one person is miserable while the other person is happy? Miserable people make themselves miserable. They keep looking at negatives instead of positives, and so take NO ACTION to improve their own lives. > So I say again in another way, don't hate Tulsa. Get on with your > life. There are plenty opportunities in Tulsa and elsewhere. > I'VE GOTTA FIND THOSE THINGS; PROBLEM IS; THEY DON'T EXIST HERE, IN THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND. Wrong language indicating wrong thoughts. You have to say, "I have not find them here". That puts the problem into the past, and gives you the responsibility of finding the opportunities, instead of giving away the responsibility to the opportunities, which will not find you. > COLORADO, OR MAYBE MONTANA, ARE BOTH CALLING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY LIFE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE UP THERE, SINCE I HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN: TULSA. So, un-brainwash yourself. Go look up Viktor Belenko, the pilot who defected to the USA by landing his MIG 29 in Japan. Read his book, how he un-brainwashed himself from the soviet lies, and what kind of life he lead in the USSR. It's a good book. What do you need for life support? > I SEE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE, IN COMMUNIST CRAP, WORTHLESS CHINA. Who knows. We saw a lot of that when we were fighting the soviet union. All the air raid drills in school, etc. Didn't happen! Why? Because they wanted to live too. > I HOPE THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR AMERICA; THIS COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED-EDUCATIONAL SHITSTEM WARZONE, AND THE COMMUNIST AND FASCIST FUCKED, DAMN NEAR NOW-TOTALITARIAN CONROLLED-MEDIA WARZONE: MODERN AMERICA. Nonsense words having no meaning, only describing what you wish to perceive. Is that what you want to see? There are other viewpoints. More hopeful viewpoints that lead to improvements. You just have to look. --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050909/8f2e4cb6/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 9 23:51:36 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 9 23:51:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050910021427.8365.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 09, 2005 07:14:27 PM Message-ID: <20050910065136.96494.qmail@mall-net.com> > TULSA REALLY SUCKS. > IT IS JUST NO GOOD HERE, AND > JUST NO GOOD IN OKLAHOMA. > I'LL REPLY MORE LATER. Can't look for something good, can you? There are a lot of good people in Tulsa. You just need to open your eyes and talk to people. Sure, most people are not going to be people you find interesting. But if you don't look, you never will find people who might become your best friends. I met one of my best friends walking outside in the fog on a street by the shore a couple of years ago. I said hello, he said hello, I forget who made some comment, and we started talking. We must have talked for half an hour outside. We ran into each other again a couple of times, and found we really enjoyed each other's company, views of the world, etc. Unfortunately, he died within a year of meeting me; but we gave each other a lot of hope, and a lot of interesting conversation, perspective on life. No one really knows how to live life, Clyde. That's why we talk; sharing what works, laughing at what doesn't, at least as long as someone else did it. Too few can laugh at themselves. Far too few. Both of us could, so it was more fun. You need to try to say hello to people, Clyde. Get some of the books by Dale Carnegie. "How to Win Friends and Influence People" is a classic that still works. Lots of good social skills in it. Basically, it's about how to be polite and reasonable, with a lot of details. I used one of those Dale Carnegie things quite effectively when a professor wanted to have me thrown out of college for destroying his grand computer program system some 35 years ago. Wanted to have my boss fired, etc. After I got through with him, he was apologizing to me. Some of the guys would say the way to handle him was intimidation; but to intimidate, you need a base of strength. And even with that base of strength, in the long run it solves Nothing because the other fellow keeps seething over it till he's done something awful to you. Others would say you just ignore them, avoid them. Doesn't work that way. Ju Jitsu uses the opponent's momentum against him. You can do the same thing with words and emotions. You let them step over the line, then ever so gently let THEM realize they have stepped over the line. Then they realize they have to apologize to you. I simply listened, agreeing with him here and there that I had done bad; but edging in a question as to what I should have done now and then. Yes, I freely admitted that I had destroyed his system, because I had. I did not pass the blame on to my boss, who had given me the orders which would cause his system to be destroyed as part of a larger purge of old programs on the mainframe system. I took the heat politely. In the end, my little questions about how I could do better made this very angry professor realize that he was one account in several tens of thousands. Or rather, HAD BEEN. Slowly, he realized he hadn't renewed his account, had ignored our notices, etc. And by that time, some 15 minutes after he started, he was out of steam. Yes, it took 15 minutes of listening to him rant and rave threatening me. That's all he really got to do, and that was pretty much enough for the emotional side of his brain. By then his rational side had added up the little facts he picked out of my questions of how I could do better, and told him HE was being unreasonable, not me; told him it was HIS fault, not mine. And since he saw he was talking to a genuinely nice guy, He apologized. I apologized (for symmetry) and there was no more anger. All was well again in the world. That's the Dale Carnegie way. (Laughing!) When my boss heard what had happened, how this angry person everyone was afraid of talking to had stopped dead after talking with me, my boss just looked at me like I was from mars or something. He asked me a couple of questions, and I minimized the issue. Yes, the guy was quite upset, and yes we did talk for about 15 minutes; but in the end, he saw it was his mistake and apologized. That wasn't the only time I stopped some nasty folks at the computer center. I really amazed my boss at how I could handle what some called difficult people. (And a lot of the technical stuff too!) There was a lot of trust and appreciation between us, because it was clear we were on the same team working for the same goals. And that we each brought different valuable talents to the team. You see, Clyde, you don't have to fear people. A lot of anger is just hot air. Let them vent, and if it's not your fault, don't take it personally. (Of course, if they have a knife or gun, do consider running for your life. But most people DO NOT have guns or knives. And most who do, are not so stupid they will use them in aggression, only in defense.) Stand up for yourself, not by confronting, but by calmly asking questions. I have to say, the angrier they are, the easier they are to deal with; because their issues are simpler in their mind. The angrier they are, the less their mind can hold, till they over-simplify reality in justifying themselves. So by remaining calm, you have the upper hand and can control the situation so as to let them vent and diffuse their anger, while helping them realize what really happened and why. Dale Carnegie has a lot of good stuff in in his books! Simple examples. Well worth reading. Please, Clyde, read that book, a little each day, say before going to bed. Think about it. Think about what it implies. I think you'll see that Tulsa, though not great, really isn't that bad. It's stuff all of us mad scientists ought to read every ten or twenty years, reflecting upon situations where we could use those skills. (And I'm half a sleep here. Won a big victory today, mostly by using Dale Carnegie kinds of skills. And a lot of persistence. By showing my prospective landlord how he will gain, I got him to let me bulldoze a new road on his undeveloped property, and a better pad for my trailer. Win-win.) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 20:36:05 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 10 20:36:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CRAZY; (PART TWO). In-Reply-To: <105.6820e5d7.30520a5b@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050911033605.82040.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 9/7/2005 12:16:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: AFTER STUDYING SOME CRUDE SCHEMATICS IN THE PAST, REGARDING CRUDE MODULATION TECHNIQUES, OF THE PAST AND PRESENT, IT DOES INDEED MAKE ME WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY THAT BRAINWAVES CAN MODULATE THE E.M. FIELDS OF POWERED FLORESCENT BULBS, WHICH THE CORRESPONDING MODULATIONS MIGHT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO BE REGISTERED ON AN ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH CAN BE FILTERED AND TRANSLATED. Hi Clyde, That is a very interesting thought. I can see no way that's practical to carry out that experiment. JOHN SAID THAT THE BRAIN PRODUCES A CHAOS OF MULTIPLE WAVELENGTHS SIMULTANEOUSLY, AT AROUND 10 WATTS OF OUTPUT 'POWER', WHETHER THAT IS MEASURES IN VOLTS, OR IN AMPS, OR A DECENT BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. I QUESTION THE POSSIBILITY OF REVERSE AMPLIFICATION OF ALL ACOUSTIC TRANSDUCERS, THAT ARE PART OF ALL ELECTRONICS AND APPLIANCES, WHILE PLUGGED INTO THE BASIC WALL SOCKET, AND TIED TO THE UTILITY GRID, IF THEY ARE UNPROTECTED: WITHOUT CHOKES AND / OR ISOLATION TRANSFORMERS. Say a subject is placed in a room with florescent lights THE FLORESCENT LIGHTS PRODUCE A HIGH VOLTAGE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, WHICH CAUSES BRAINWAVE AND ALL OTHER NEURAL ACTIVITY INTERFERENCE; INCLUDING SQUARE WAVES, E.M.P.'S, SQUARE WAVES IN PULSED SUCCESSION, TRIANGE SPIKES, ETC.... I'VE BECOME QUITE SENSITIVE TO FLORESCENT LIGHTS, POWERED BY 60 CYCLE FREQUENCY; WHEN I AM DEFICIENT ON THE DRUG: CLONAZEPAM, THE HIGH VOLTAGE EMISSION, AND HIGH VOLTAGE-PHOTONIC EMISSION FROM FLORESCENTS JITTERS MY NEUROLOGY TO NERVOUSNESS OVERKILL. I'D LIKE TO OPERATE ALL OF MY FLORESCENTS ON AN ISOLATED D.C. POWER SYSTEM, TO BREAK FREE FROM ALL OF THE 60 CYCLE E.M. POLLUTION, AND BREAK AWAY FROM ALL OF THE CONSTANT HIGH VOLTAGE SPIKES ON THE LINES, THAT CONSITENTLY BOMBARD ALL OF US, FROM THE SURROUNDING POWERLINES. a couple inches from the skull. NOT NECESSARILY A COUPLE OF INCHES FROM THE CRANIUM; IT DEPENDS ON THE FIELD STRENTH OF BOTH THE BRAIN, RELATIVE TO THE PRESENT STATE OF BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY, AND FROM ALSO, THE FIELD STRENGTH OF ALL OF THE SURROUNDING 60 CYCLE ENTRAINMENT CARRIER FREQUENCY/S, THE HARMONICS, AND THE VARIOUS PHASES. where would the encephalogram be, over the top of the head, under the chin, where? NOT NECESSARILY; IT COULD BE PART OF A COMPUTER SYSTEM AT LOCAL POWER MONITORING FACILITIES. I'M NOT SAYING THIS OUT OF ANY PARANOIA RIGHT NOW, SINCE I'M UNDER SOME GOOD PRESCIPTION DRUG SEDATION, AND A GLASS OF WHITE ZINIFIDEL. I HAVE COME TO HATE THE DRUG THAT I AM CURRENTLY ON: CLONAZEPAM, JUST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER DRUGS. IT IS THE CLOSEST DRUG THAT I HAVE EVER TAKEN TO BEING A TRUE MEDICATION, BUT IT IS STILL A CHEMICAL, AND IT IS STILL A FAILURE. I AM SUFFERING HEART PROBLEMS NOW, BECAUSE OF IT. I AM SICK OF ALLOPATHIC CHEMISTRY CRAP; AND THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL, THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL, THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL, AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES THAT SUPPORT IT, WITH AN IRON FIST OF CONSUMERISM COMMERICALISM DICTATORISM, ETC.... Say some sort of reaction is noted on said E-Gram, You may see a part of the brain react, but would it not be in reaction of the subject to the present situation? 60 HZ. CAN BE A CARRRIER FREQUENCY, AND BRAINWAVES, WHETHER CHAOTIC OR SUBTLE, DEPENDING ON THE WAY THAT ONE FEELS, AT WHATEVER TIME, CAN MODULATE THAT 60 CYCLE CARRIER. Way back in the 50ies, all kinds of experiments were begun on monkeys, tops of heads removed, electro-probes placed in various parts of the brain. OK. I probably should not be saying this, but everyone who was part of this program, is most likely dead by now, or in their late 80ies or 90ies. What the heck, the project -must be declassified by now!!!!! Anyway, back to the monkeys, when a button was presses current went into the part of the brain controlling hunger. Monkey would eat, Stop the current, monkey would reject food. YEAH; I'VE HEARD ABOUT THOSE EXPERIMENTS. That was not the only function the electrodes controlled, really weird the little guys with the glass domes covering the top of their heads. This is the only true mind control I know of, except brain washing. L.S.D. AND OTHER PSYCHOTROPICS SCREW PEOPLE UP. PSYCHOTROPICS HAVE CERTAINLY WARPED MY MIND. THE SADOMASOCHISTIC IDIOT DOCTORS AT ENVIRONMENTAL INFUCKTUTIONS, USE PSYCHOTROPICS TO TORTURE PEOPLE; WHICH I NOW KNOW, FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Years later my dad showed me pictures of myself, all of 3 perhaps, standing in front of a glass enclosure with the poor things behind me. Dad told me the experiments were headed by a couple of "liberated" doctors that we brought to America from Germany after ww2. This building was on the navy base in Groton Conn, it had to be military sponsored to be there. The chief scientist had been a u boat captain and loved to tell stories about the eastern seacoast towns, and cities he had seen through a parascope. We have done lots of odd experiments through the military YEAH; LIKE THE SO-CALLED MONTAUK PROJECT, AND THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT. ever since man picked up a rock and bounced it off his neighbors head. I can suppose you don't have to look too far to find some person who, for the right price will agree to having the top of his/her head cut off. Russia began the experiments on twins, ESP. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT E.S.P., BUT I AM CONVINCED NOW THAT RUSSIAN V.L.F., AND E.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCY MIND KONTROL EXPERIMENTS ARE, AND HAVE BEEN, A REALITY; 'PROBABLY' IN COMBINATION WITH PSYCHOTROPIC HALLUCINOGENS. and the so called Far Seeing in the early 70ies. We in return formed Star Gate, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH STAR GATE, EXCEPT FOR THE SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE AND TELEVISION SERIES; OF TRAVEL TO OTHER PLANETS USING STARGATE HYPERSPACE WORMHOLE SYSTEMS. spent millions of dollars to keep in step with the Russians. Edger Casey was an interesting man, I have read all his books, first few books had me sold, then when he wrote about Atlantis, I turned off. Perhaps the man went ga-ga from the stress. INTERSTING; I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT EDGAR CAYCE, BUT HAVE NEVER LOOKED INTO HIS STUFF, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE PSYCHIC BULLSHIT TALK. The best way I believe to read minds is good old fashion body language. Tons of books out there about the subject. It is a good thing to get up on that subject, you will learn how to control your own body to give a good impression to everyone. You can tell when someone is lying to you, feeling defensive and how people feel about each other. This is a new science, The FBI and police are schooled in this science, they can tell in a heart beat not exactly what a person is thinking, but how the person feels and thinks on a deeper level by their own unknowing actions. Practice Clyde, read and observe others around you. You will know how your boss feels about other employees just by watching them interact. Helps with family too, you will be able to tell when to back off discussions with them, you can tell when Grandma begins to gets weird before SHE begins to titch. You will know when you are getting into a conversation how to either SHUT UP or change tactic. Best of all, once you learn to read others, then you know the unconscious signals you may be giving to others about yourself. We all give ourselves away to others not knowing we are doing it. The others pick up our signals, and react, not thinking about it, but instinct takes over. Ever met someone who on first meeting you didn't trust ????? YES. Your subconscious was reading the signals they were sending, ie, eye movement, posture, speech inflection. This new science is at this time the only way you can read minds, the advisors to world leaders are paid buco bucks to instruct our leaders on body language. But the subconscious is very, very, strong and every one slips no matter how well rehearsed. Money is short for you, YES; SO MUCH SO, THAT I AM THINKING ABOUT GOING TO TALK TO THE C.E.O. OF THE SANK OF OKLAHOMA, TO FIND OUT HOW HE SPENDS HIS MONEY, AND WHY HE DOESN'T SPREAD THE WEALTH TO CLEAN UP THIS FUCKING INDUSTRIAL SLUM, FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND. so since you use your local library, using their computer, do some research on Body Language, when you find a book that you think will help you to research this subject, have the library find the book for you, may take a week but they borrow from colleges and 50 state wide library systems. BODY LANGUAGE. I MIGHT CHECK INTO IT, IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO DO SO. You may be surprised, the neighbors you think are bothering you may in fact be willing to be a friend, it may be YOU who is giving the wrong signals. THE INSECURITY ALARM SHITSTEM (SYSTEM) IN THIS RESIDENCE, IS RIGGED, AND THE HOUSE IS UNDER AUDIO SURVEILLANCE; BY WHAT EXACT WAYS AND MEANS, I DO NOT KNOW; THE FOLKS AT THE ALARM CENTER HEADQUARTERS PROBABLY HAVE GARGANTUAN COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT DETECT THE SLIGHTEST MOTION AND MOVEMENT, AND TRIGGER AUDIO SURVEILANCE LISTENING AND RECORDING. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT ALL THOUGH, TO SPECULATE ANY FURTHER; AND THE SO-CALLED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT ALL OF THE CONTROVERSIAL SHIT THAT I HAVE DONE, AND I AM UNDER SUSPICIOUS WATCH NOW, BY THE SO-CALLED PATRIOT AKT! (YES: AKT!) BY: TELEPHONE TAPPING CALEA, AND BROADBAND OVER BOTH CABLE AND POWERLINES. Give it a try, won't cost you anything and is fun to boot. GOTTA GO; I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO BACK AND REVISE OUT THE MISTAKES THAT I HAVE TYPED UP IN THIS REPLY. I'M TIRED. I NEED TO GO FOR NOW. Regards Vesta LATER; CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050910/83397b82/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 10 21:04:42 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 10 21:04:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Still more unintelligent design... Message-ID: <007301c5b685$f0785250$d0c5bc41@mikey> September 8, 2005 Researchers Say Human Brain Is Still Evolving By NICHOLAS WADE, in _The New York Times_ Two genes involved in determining the size of the human brain have undergone substantial evolution in the last 60,000 years, researchers say, suggesting that the brain is still undergoing rapid evolution. The discovery adds further weight to the view that human evolution is still a work in progress, since previous instances of recent genetic change have come to light in genes that defend against disease and confer the ability to digest milk in adulthood. The new finding, reported by Bruce T. Lahn of the University of Chicago and colleagues in the journal Science, could raise controversy because of the genes' role in determining brain size. New versions of the genes, or alleles, as geneticists call them, appear to have spread because they enhanced the brain's function in some way, the report suggests, and they are more common in some populations than others. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/science/08cnd-brain.html?hp&ex=1126238400& en=7f83ee9b96d40611&ei=5094&partner=homepage Or... http://snipurl.com/hkjr From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 21:05:40 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 10 21:05:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050909200534.66845.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050911040540.55043.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > OK; REGARDING (COMMUNIST) EMINENT DOMAIN; WITH THE TAXATION TO PROSPERITY; I STILL HATE THEM BOTH. > > BOTH OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION TOO. You vote, yes? YES! I VOTE YES, FOR VOTING FREEDOMS! I AM SICK OF OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. WE NEED SMALLER GOVT. So you have representation, I HAVE A STATE REPRESENTATIVE, BUT HE DOESN'T LISTEN; I'VE WRITTEN TO HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. HE IS ONLY OUT FOR HIS OWN SELF GAIN POCKET OVERSTUFFING PROFIT. POWER HAS CORRUPTED HIM, AS FAR AS THE ENERGY ISSUE IS CONCERNED; AND HE IS ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE REFUGE, AND HAS ZERO INTEREST IN PROMISING ESOTERIC ENERGY TECHNOLOGY ALTERNATIVES. EVEN CLATHRTATES AND POWER TO THE PEOPLE MICRO TURBINES WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE OF ZERO INTEREST TO HIS POLITICAL CRAP. LIKE MIKE SAID IN ANOTHER E-MAIL: REFUCKLICANS. I HAVE NO MORE LOVE FOR ANY OF THE POLITICIANS: DEMOCRAPS, OR REFUCKICANS. THE MORALITY AND IMMORALITY ISSUE ON THE OTHER HAND, ALONG WITH THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT ISSUE; THE STATE REP. IS WORKING ON, OR SO HE SAYS ON BOTH THE RADIO, AND ON HIS WEBSITE. THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS COUNTRY; MORALLY, ECONOMICALLY, ATMOSPHERICALLY AND ECOLOGICALLY. I AM SICK OF POLITICS. IT IS WHY SCIENTISTS LOSE. SCIENTISTS LOSE, WHEN POLITICS WINS. POLITICS HAS DRIVEN ME OUT OF MY MIND. I'LL REPLY MORE LATER; I'M TOO DAMNED TIRED RIGHT NOW TO GO ANY FURTHER. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050910/d2d4964a/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 10 23:25:10 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 10 23:25:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911040540.55043.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 10, 2005 09:05:40 PM Message-ID: <20050911062510.62244.qmail@mall-net.com> > You vote, yes? > > YES! > > I VOTE YES, FOR VOTING FREEDOMS! > > I AM SICK OF OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. > WE NEED SMALLER GOVT. > > So you have representation, > > I HAVE A STATE REPRESENTATIVE, BUT HE DOESN'T LISTEN; I'VE WRITTEN TO HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. > HE IS ONLY OUT FOR HIS OWN SELF GAIN POCKET OVERSTUFFING PROFIT. Do you have newspaper articles saying such? I think not. Do not assume the worst; because that paralyzes you, preventing you from doing things which can improve the situation. > POWER HAS CORRUPTED HIM, AS FAR AS THE ENERGY ISSUE IS CONCERNED; AND HE IS ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE REFUGE, AND HAS ZERO INTEREST IN PROMISING ESOTERIC ENERGY TECHNOLOGY ALTERNATIVES. Energy alternatives take time to develop. Lots of research needs to be done, equipment designed, etc. before we can pull methane from clathrates. At best, the government can give tax credits for such research to... um... who's in the energy field? Exon, Texaco, Shell... etc. > EVEN CLATHRTATES AND POWER TO THE PEOPLE MICRO TURBINES WOULD > MORE THAN LIKELY BE OF ZERO INTEREST TO HIS POLITICAL CRAP. "More than likely..." How do you know? Again, if you use Dale Carnegie's approach, you are more likely to get somewhere than th typical statements you are making here. As for micro turbines, we don't know if they would be the best approach. We are not that wise. > LIKE MIKE SAID IN ANOTHER E-MAIL: REFUCKLICANS. > > I HAVE NO MORE LOVE FOR ANY OF THE POLITICIANS: DEMOCRAPS, OR REFUCKICANS. > THE MORALITY AND IMMORALITY ISSUE ON THE OTHER HAND, ALONG WITH THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT ISSUE; THE STATE REP. IS WORKING ON, OR SO HE SAYS ON BOTH THE RADIO, AND ON HIS WEBSITE. Well, that is an issue which most of the people who elected him have serious interest in. So, how is he going to handle things? How would YOU handle this? I bet you'd make a list of things in order of importance to those who elected him, and start at the top. That's what I would do. And that's what he has probably done. Illegal immigrants are a major problem. So that gets the most attention. At least, unless someone politely lays out why it would be IN HIS INTEREST to be in the forefront of new technology. Especially when hydrogen is supposed to be our "new energy source" according to what everyone is saying. He's got a lot of mail ranging from people ranging from upper middle class folks asking about various things, to crackpots accusing him of being an idiot. Which ones do you think his staff will pass on to him? > THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS COUNTRY; MORALLY, ECONOMICALLY, ATMOSPHERICALLY AND ECOLOGICALLY. They have children. they don't want their children's and their grandchildren's futures destroyed. That, more than anything else, is what kept the Soviet Union and the United States from engaging in an all-out nuclear war. > IT IS WHY SCIENTISTS LOSE. No. IT is because few scientists bother to read Dale Carnegie, and put his suggestions to good use. > SCIENTISTS LOSE, WHEN POLITICS WINS. Actually, scientists tend to win when politics wins. Why? Because often the alternatives would often lead to more unrest, etc. Granted, it would have been nice to go to the moon vs putting all that into the great welfare state. But Nixon and LBJ had a war going on, and they had limits on what they could do. Many arguments can be made over how far they could go without creating major problems. I am inclined to believe we could have done things differently; but we did get to the moon, and did eventually push the USSR into failing. Those are not insignificant items! Nixon's excesses lead to wage-price controls; which really did not do us good! They set the stage for Carter's stagflation. Many argument can be made. I am not sufficiently versed in economics to know which options would have been best. I do believe that we didn't come close to choosing the worst options. > POLITICS HAS DRIVEN ME OUT OF MY MIND. Unlikely. Your voice is small. Other voices favor other things. Politics is the art of compromise. If you wish to increase your influence, you must learn the ways of influencing people. These are laid out rather nicely in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. A journey of a thousand paces begins with one step. Of course, if you have a car... that journey will be faster and smoother. For this journey, Dale Carnegie's book is that car. You can learn those things from the book, or from your mistakes. Which do you think would be faster? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 11 04:52:53 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 11 04:53:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911062510.62244.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050911115253.22838.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Energy alternatives take time to develop. Lots of research needs to be done, equipment designed, etc. before we can pull methane from clathrates. HOW LONG? ::::::: UNTIL WE REACH THE STATE OF A MAD MAX TYPE OF SCENARIO, FIGHTING OVER OUR NATURAL RESOURCES; (RESOURCE WARS), AND BUILDING OUR ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, ONLY ON A GRASS ROOTS SCALE LEVEL ONLY? At best, the government can give tax credits for such research to... um... who's in the energy field? Exon, Texaco, Shell... etc. FUCK SHELL AND TEXACO; THEY ARE MIDDLE EASTERN IMPORTS. AS FOR EXXON; I THINK THEY ARE MIDDLE EASTERN EXPORT JUST AS WELL; SO IF THEY ARE; FUCK THEM TOO; BUT REGARDLESS; I STILL DON'T LIKE EXXON. > EVEN CLATHRATES AND (POWER TO THE PEOPLE) MICRO TURBINES WOULD > MORE THAN LIKELY BE OF ZERO INTEREST TO HIS POLITICAL CRAP. "More than likely..." How do you know? MAYBE; I DON'T KNOW. BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE SO FAR; TALKING TO MY STATE REP. IS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL, AND ONLY SHOWS ME THAT HIS INTEREST IS IN THE PERPETUATION OF THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX DICTATORSHIP OF DIRTY ENERGY; CENTRALIZED AND COMMUNIZED, AND THAT HE HAS ZERO CARE OR CONCERN ABOUT INVIDUALISM ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE LITTLE MAN. HIS ONLY CARE AND CONCERN IS SUSTAINING GARGANTUAN MONOPOLY PETROCHEMICAL CORPORATIONS, AND DRILLING IN THE ALASKAN ARTIC WILDLIFE REFUGE, AND NOT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE LITTLE MAN; Again, if you use Dale Carnegie's approach, you are more likely to get somewhere than th typical statements you are making here. I'LL LOOK INTO DALE CARNEGIE'S BOOK, OR BOOKS. As for micro turbines, we don't know if they would be the best approach. THEY WOULD BE A DAMN GOOD APPROACH! We are not that wise. WHO IS: WE? Nixon's excesses lead to wage-price controls; which really did not do us good! They set the stage for Carter's stagflation. GEORGE BUSH'S STAGFLATION IS FAR FAR WORSE THAN THAT OF CARTER'S STAGFLATION. THE STRESS THAT I FEEL FROM ALL OF THE OVERSTOCKING SUPPLIES, AND WORTHLESS CHINESE IMPORTED TRASH, AT MY WORKPLACE, IS OVERWHELMING. IT IS A LARGE REASON FOR MY ANGER AND FRUSTRATION. Your voice is small. Other voices favor other things. Politics is the art of compromise. If you wish to increase your influence, you must learn the ways of influencing people. These are laid out rather nicely in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT BOOK. HOW MANY BOOK'S DID DALE CARNEGIE PRODUCE TOTAL? GOTTA GO FOR NOW, TO GO TO WORK THIS MORNING. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050911/0d74b3eb/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 11 07:36:12 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 11 07:36:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911115253.22838.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 11, 2005 04:52:53 AM Message-ID: <20050911143612.34067.qmail@mall-net.com> > Energy alternatives take time to develop. Lots of research needs > to be done, equipment designed, etc. before we can pull methane from > clathrates. > > HOW LONG? ::::::: Five or ten years more. We are already working at it. Some test wells have been dug and energy extracted. I forget where, but you can research it. Problem is, how do you use it. Simplest would be converting it to propane or octane. > UNTIL WE REACH THE STATE OF A MAD MAX TYPE OF SCENARIO, FIGHTING OVER OUR NATURAL RESOURCES; (RESOURCE WARS), AND BUILDING OUR ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, ONLY ON A GRASS ROOTS SCALE LEVEL ONLY? Grassroots have no technical power. grass roots is dumb guys who watch sitcoms on TV. It's folks who got their PC only when the internet started to really, really take off. > At best, the government can give tax credits for such research > to... um... who's in the energy field? Exon, Texaco, Shell... etc. > > FUCK SHELL AND TEXACO; THEY ARE MIDDLE EASTERN IMPORTS. That's all we got! Look, you can't just rebuild the network of gas stations with folks who don't have money! It takes a LOT of money to open a filling stations! And a hell of a lot of paperwork. So either you use the existing network of gas stations, or the existing network of power lines to move the energy. Or if you are lucky, find some way to create fuel on the back yard level (e.g. solar hydrogen). But most people live in cities, in apartments, and don't have backyards or cellars anymore to screw around in. > AS FOR EXXON; I THINK THEY ARE MIDDLE EASTERN EXPORT JUST AS WELL; SO IF THEY ARE; FUCK THEM TOO; BUT REGARDLESS; I STILL DON'T LIKE EXXON. Whether you like it or not is not the issue. This is reality. We have to work within reality or things do not work. > > EVEN CLATHRATES AND (POWER TO THE PEOPLE) MICRO TURBINES WOULD > > MORE THAN LIKELY BE OF ZERO INTEREST TO HIS POLITICAL CRAP. > > "More than likely..." How do you know? > > MAYBE; I DON'T KNOW. > BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE SO FAR; TALKING TO MY STATE REP. IS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL, AND ONLY SHOWS ME THAT HIS INTEREST IS IN THE PERPETUATION OF THE PETROLEUM INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX DICTATORSHIP OF DIRTY ENERGY; CENTRALIZED AND COMMUNIZED, AND THAT HE HAS ZERO CARE OR CONCERN ABOUT INVIDUALISM ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE LITTLE MAN. You are only one person. I'll bet no one else has talked to him about clathrates. When enough people do, he'll take notice. That's the thing about democracy -- no one can dictate what government has to do. > HIS ONLY CARE AND CONCERN IS SUSTAINING GARGANTUAN MONOPOLY PETROCHEMICAL CORPORATIONS, AND DRILLING IN THE ALASKAN ARTIC WILDLIFE REFUGE, AND NOT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE LITTLE MAN; The little man is not going to be energy independent because there is no way he can afford it. Period! Not in the next five years. Probably not in the next twenty. Solar energy takes six to 12 years to pay off. A wise investor can double his money in that time. Thus the wise investor DOES NOT squander his money saving money, he spends is money on things that MAKE money. > Again, if you use Dale Carnegie's approach, you are more likely to > get somewhere than th typical statements you are making here. > > I'LL LOOK INTO DALE CARNEGIE'S BOOK, OR BOOKS. Good. Others on this list should too. > As for micro turbines, we don't know if they would be the best > approach. > > THEY WOULD BE A DAMN GOOD APPROACH! A turbine is not an efficient engine. None of the internal combustion engines are that efficient. > We are not that wise. > > WHO IS: WE? Us. You and me. > Nixon's excesses lead to wage-price controls; which really did not > do us good! They set the stage for Carter's stagflation. > > GEORGE BUSH'S STAGFLATION IS FAR FAR WORSE THAN THAT OF CARTER'S STAGFLATION. Hardly! We don't have stagflation now! Stagflation is where we had economic stagnation coupled with high inflation. We have something else now, rapid asset appreciation. I think that's bad too. But I have not invested in land or buildings, so I am not profiting by it. The little man is not profiting from asset appreciation; he is being squeezed out of asset ownership. > THE STRESS THAT I FEEL FROM ALL OF THE OVERSTOCKING SUPPLIES, AND WORTHLESS CHINESE IMPORTED TRASH, AT MY WORKPLACE, IS OVERWHELMING. You are not stressed by that. You are benefiting by cheap goods. We all are. The question is, what else is going on with our infrastructure because of those cheap goods. Loss of jobs is bad Loss of industries is worse Loss of skills is much, much worse. > IT IS A LARGE REASON FOR MY ANGER AND FRUSTRATION. this is only because you chose it to be. Because you do not look at the quality of the things you buy before you buy them. > Your voice is small. Other voices favor other things. Politics is > the art of compromise. If you wish to increase your influence, you must > learn the ways of influencing people. These are laid out rather nicely > in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. > > I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT BOOK. > > HOW MANY BOOK'S DID DALE CARNEGIE PRODUCE TOTAL? I don't know. I read How to Win Friends and Influence People as part of my Amway sales education. Then I took the Dale Carnegie Sales Course. They also have a public speaking course which would be more toward what would help you. You could also look at Toastmasters for that. I suspect the Dale Carnegie course is probably overpriced; but don't know. The sales course was very expensive and didn't really teach me that much more than Amway did. > GOTTA GO FOR NOW, TO GO TO WORK THIS MORNING. You have a job, and an income. You are lucky. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 11 10:45:18 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 11 10:45:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911143612.34067.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050911174518.6067.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > GOTTA GO FOR NOW, TO GO TO WORK THIS MORNING. You have a job, and an income. You are lucky. MY JOB IS ON THE LINE. I'M ALREADY SCREWED UP ENOUGH AS IT IS, WITHOUT THEM SCREWING WITH MY WORK SCHEDULE EVEN FURTHER. THE ENVIRONMENT HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL ON MY HEALTH SO BADLY THAT I THINK I AM ON THE VERGE OF LOSING MY JOB. OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID, AND VERY LITTLE, TO NO HOPE REMAINING, FOR THE FINANCIAL FUTURE. AMERICA, BEING DEPLETED OF ITS RESOURCES, WHILE BEING OVERSTOCKED WITH CHINESE SHIT, ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Watch the Hurricane Katrina Shelter From The Storm concert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050911/2441b2df/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 11 13:06:02 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 11 13:06:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911174518.6067.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 11, 2005 10:45:18 AM Message-ID: <20050911200602.15678.qmail@mall-net.com> > > GOTTA GO FOR NOW, TO GO TO WORK THIS MORNING. > > You have a job, and an income. You are lucky. > > MY JOB IS ON THE LINE. Jobs are always on the line. Especially if you are good, for then YOU want to do better. > I'M ALREADY SCREWED UP ENOUGH AS IT IS, WITHOUT THEM SCREWING WITH MY WORK SCHEDULE EVEN FURTHER. Retail? Yes, they do that. But so what? > THE ENVIRONMENT HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL ON MY HEALTH SO BADLY THAT I THINK I AM ON THE VERGE OF LOSING MY JOB. > OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID, AND VERY LITTLE, TO NO HOPE REMAINING, FOR THE FINANCIAL FUTURE. That's what many people think. At least those who don't look for opportunities. > AMERICA, BEING DEPLETED OF ITS RESOURCES, WHILE BEING OVERSTOCKED WITH CHINESE SHIT, ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. It does make a lot of sense. Unfortunately, I think some of that is an illusion of the leaders and others who are enjoying the asset appreciation. Still, it sure as hell beats the situation in most nations! Especially European nations where the effective tax rate is way higher than it is here. It's one thing to lament the fall of Rome. Quite another to make sure the arches don't fall on your head. Those who lament, don't usually do anything. Those who try, do a lot better than those who don't. Which would you rather be, someone who claims he is utterly powerless? Or someone who is improving his own life? The choice is yours. Afraid your job is about to go? Start looking for another one while you have a job. Your boss will likely give you a modestly good review just to get rid of you. There are plenty of jobs available. Some are dangerous, some are dirty, and some pay rather well! Most of the dirty and dangerous one's don't pay enough to be worth doing. What are your skills? Make a list of them, and of the things you've done. Work on that list rather than posting laments about how America is doomed, posts which do YOU not much good. Do better at work. Don't complain, just strive to do better. It will help stave off the lay off, and buy you time to find a BETTER job. One of the best pieces of advice I got when I was a junior consultant, came from a seasoned consultant who said "There are always better jobs out there, you just have to find one." He was right. Did you look at Jay Levanson's books yet? "How to Earn a Living without a Job", and something about 555 money making ideas. Read Dale Carnegie first, it will help you put Levanson's ideas into action. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 11 21:29:49 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 11 21:29:56 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The flip side of the welfare state In-Reply-To: <20050911200602.15678.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050912042949.16400.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > You have a job, and an income. You are lucky. YEAH; I AM LUCKY. I'VE BEEN WORKING THERE FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW. I JUST GOT WRITTEN UP TWICE THE OTHER DAY. AND THREE STRIKES AND I'M OUT. IT IS SORT OF OKAY. MAYBE IF I LOSE MY EMPLOYMENT THERE, I WILL LEAVE THIS SHITHOLE STATE OF OKLAHOMA. I'M READY FOR SOMETHING NEW ANYWAY. I'M SICK AS WELL AS TIRED OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS SHIT OF THIS SLUM TOWN OF TULSA. > MY JOB IS ON THE LINE. Jobs are always on the line. Especially if you are good, for then YOU want to do better. IMPERFECTION AND MISTAKES DRIVE ME MAD. > I'M ALREADY SCREWED UP ENOUGH AS IT IS, WITHOUT THEM SCREWING WITH MY WORK SCHEDULE EVEN FURTHER. Retail? Yes, they do that. But so what? WELL I DON'T AGREE WITH THE SO WHAT. BEING ALL FUCKED UP ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE THE SLIGHTEST BIT EASY ON ME. > THE ENVIRONMENT HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL ON MY HEALTH SO BADLY THAT I THINK I AM ON THE VERGE OF LOSING MY JOB. > OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID, AND VERY LITTLE, TO NO HOPE REMAINING, FOR THE FINANCIAL FUTURE. That's what many people think. At least those who don't look for opportunities. I KNOW OPPORTUNITIES EXIST. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, TO LOOK FOR MANY OF THEM. > AMERICA, BEING DEPLETED OF ITS RESOURCES, WHILE BEING OVERSTOCKED WITH CHINESE SHIT, ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. It does make a lot of sense. BULLSHIT! FUCK CHINA! Unfortunately, I think some of that is an illusion of the leaders FUCK ALL POLITICIANS. and others who are enjoying the asset appreciation. Still, it sure as hell beats the situation in most nations! AND FUCK TURD WORLD SLAVERY COUNTRIES TOO. Especially European nations where the effective tax rate is way higher than it is here. TAX RATE; I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS HERE IN THE ONION COMMUNIST SCHOOL DISTRICT; BUT IT IS CERTAINLY OVERTAXATION AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, IN THE DISTRICT OF THIS FUCKING FOREVER GO NOWHERE ALWAYS SLUMBURB. It's one thing to lament DID YOU READ MY ONION COMMUNIST SCHOOLS LAMENT IN THE PAST? [the fall of Rome.] Quite another to make sure the arches don't fall on your head. FUCK ARCHES. FUCK THE GOLDEN ARCHES OF MCDONALDS TOO. Those who lament, don't usually do anything. Those who try, do a lot better than those who don't. WELL I'VE TRIED; BUT I'M ONLY ABLE TO MOVE INCHES. THE TALKING CLOCK PROJECT IS STILL A MANDATORY PRIORITY FOR ME. Which would you rather be, someone who claims he is utterly powerless? Or someone who is improving his own life? The choice is yours. Afraid your job is about to go? YES. Start looking for another one while you have a job. AT THE CHAMBERS OF COMMUNISM, IN FORT COLLINS COLORADO, OR IN BOULDER COLORADO, OR IN MISSOULA MONTANA? Your boss will likely give you a modestly good review just to get rid of you. I DON'T LIKE MY NEW BOSS VERY WELL; MY TWO PREVIOUS BOSSES WERE A HELL OF A LOT BETTER. There are plenty of jobs available. LIKE I TOLD A CO-WORKER THIS EVENING: I NEED AN ESOTERIC JOB, WHERE I CAN GO, AND JUST TURN OFF MY BRAIN, AND BE A FEELINGLESS AUTOMATON, TO MAKE MONEY. I DON'T LIKE HUMAN INTERACTION ANYMORE. Some are dangerous, some are dirty, and some pay rather well! Most of the dirty and dangerous one's don't pay enough to be worth doing. I'VE HAD SOME DIRTY JOBS THAT ARE CRAP, THAT PAY VERY LITTLE, AND ARE NOT WORTH WORKING AT. I REJECT THAT TYPE OF WORK. I WANT TO WORK IN A CLEAN ROOM ATMOSPHERE, JOB ATMOSPHERE. What are your skills? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY; I'VE LOST MY MIND, AND HAVE HAD BASIC ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS EDUCATION. Make a list of them, and of the things you've done. Work on that list rather than posting laments about how America is doomed, posts which do YOU not much good. Do better at work. Don't complain, just strive to do better. THAT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE. It will help stave off the lay off, and buy you time to find a BETTER job. THERE ARE NO RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO FIND A BETTER JOB. One of the best pieces of advice I got when I was a junior consultant, came from a seasoned consultant who said "There are always better jobs out there, you just have to find one." He was right. OK. Did you look at Jay Levanson's books yet? I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. "How to Earn a Living without a Job", and something about 555 money making ideas. I NEED TO FIND SUCH A THING. Read Dale Carnegie first, it will help you put Levanson's ideas into action. OK. 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050911/a22efcb6/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 00:05:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 00:06:04 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 21st century economics Message-ID: <00a601c5b768$6e717be0$d0c5bc41@mikey> It has always been my belief that excellence was the route to success, and constantly wondered how crap from China could utterly destroy my industry. This article was a serious eye-opener! -MB 'Disruptive technology' key to creating growth, scholar tells Japan By TAKASHI KITAZUME, Staff writer, _The Japan Times_, 9/12/2005 If you want to beat the industry leaders, you shouldn't try to outperform them in an established market, but "disrupt" them by creating a situation where they want to flee from you. And if you want to create a new growth business, you should start by competing against nonconsumption, by offering products and services so simple and affordable that people who lacked access to them will be delighted to use them, even they may be low-quality at first. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20050912a1.htm From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 04:34:34 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 12 04:34:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 21st century economics In-Reply-To: <00a601c5b768$6e717be0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050912113434.27468.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: It has always been my belief that excellence was the route to success, and constantly wondered how crap from China could utterly destroy my industry. This article was a serious eye-opener! HELL IS INSUFFICIENT OF WHERE I WOULD LIKE CHINA TO GO TO. CHINA CAN GO TO NONEXITANCE. I AM SICK OF THE CEASELESS OVERWHELMING OVERSTOCK THAT THAT TURD WORLD COUNTRY IMPORTS TO THIS COUNTRY. TO EXPORT ALL OF THEIR TRASH, BACK TO THEM, AND RESTART THE WHEELS OF INDUSTRY TURNING AGAIN, IN THIS COUNTRY. LET'S PUT COMMUNIST CRAP CHINA OUT OF BUSINESS, HERE IN AMERICA, EXCEPT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE CHINESE RESTERAUNTS. CLYDE -MB 'Disruptive technology' key to creating growth, scholar tells Japan By TAKASHI KITAZUME, Staff writer, _The Japan Times_, 9/12/2005 If you want to beat the industry leaders, you shouldn't try to outperform them in an established market, but "disrupt" them by creating a situation where they want to flee from you. And if you want to create a new growth business, you should start by competing against nonconsumption, by offering products and services so simple and affordable that people who lacked access to them will be delighted to use them, even they may be low-quality at first. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20050912a1.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050912/2ec383cb/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 08:51:57 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 08:52:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The largest city on Ezrth Message-ID: <00bf01c5b7b1$e7fba410$d0c5bc41@mikey> At 31.44 million population, Chongqing (nee Chungking) is the world's most populous city. Its per capita GDP is only slightly over $1000. More info: http://china.adage.com/article.php?article_id=46005 From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 10:59:12 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 10:59:19 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Teslamania Message-ID: <00ca01c5b7c3$aee8df50$d0c5bc41@mikey> It seems that Gecko is leaving NYC, so this years' Teslamania may well be the last. Here is her invitation: -----Forwarded Message----- This is it folks... The LAST TESLAMANIA EVER!!!!!! ?Bitchin? ?Totally radical, braugh? ?Heavy stuff, man? ?This is the ultimate? "Gecko tends to perform loads of weird science, typically with one or both of the Tesla coils in house with cybertronic themes, breaking down the barriers between, science, sex and nature." audience responses The mistress of the Tesla Coil and co-director of Collective:Unconscious, Gecko Saccomanno,[AKA me!!] is moving away, so this will be my very last show ever. For 5 years I've been WOWing you with all things Tesla in the longest running tribute to the forgotten genius and inventor Nikola Tesla....TESLAMANIA!!! See the largest Tesla Coil on Manhattan- Watch electric bolts shoot from lobster claws + out of flowers, as neon tubes glow from across the room!! Smell the fresh scent of ozone!!! Come join me, plus Tesla master Jamie Mereness + the Most Special of Special guests the Galorious Missy Galore and some secret surprise folks!! for one last BLAST!!!!!! Friday September 16th 7.30 pm Collective Unconscious 279 Church http://www.weird.org http://www.chickscook.org reservations 212 254 5277 From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 16:09:56 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 16:10:13 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Hutchinson Effect Pix Message-ID: <00e701c5b7ef$17f8df60$d0c5bc41@mikey> >From the American Antigravity list, Tim Ventura's first-hand photos of Hutchinson's work. -MB -----Forwarded Message----- After a Saturday trip to visit John Hutchison, I returned with over 400 photos and over an hour of video interview footage. I've attached a set of sample photos showing the effect on Steel, Brass, and Aluminum bars & rods. I've tried to include at least 1 distance & 1 closeup shot for each type of material, as well as a couple of photos for Colby Harper, Mike Shafer, Harold Berndt, and his two sons. http://www.americanantigravity.com/graphics/Hutchison-Photos-Sept05.zip We also captured over an hour of video on my handycam, nearly as much on Mike's handycam, and 400+ photographs altogether of the team, our trip, John himself, and the variety of sample materials that he presented us with. John addresses the "PK/psychic" criticism in-depth, and ultimately states that it was the only way to keep the research open without having a TS/SCI classification attached to it (during the hay-dayof the Reagan Administration). Also, several of us talked with John about creating a public effort to raise funds to buy/rent him a lab-location where he could begin experimenting with the Hutchison-Effect again on a regular basis. We'd need to find a benefactor for the space & electricity, but realistically John's entire cost of setup in the Vancouver OR USA would pale in comparison to even minimal startup-company research costs...and the value of his research would far outweigh the expense of helping him perform the work. I'm going to be sending out a few copies of both the interviews & complete high-res photos on DVD, and I am taking requests for copies, depending on who wants them. If you're only moderately interested, please consider contributing to AAG a bit via PayPal, since these cost about $5 per copy to make & send. I'm deducting the expense from the corporate account as a promotional CODB, basically so that Danielle doesn't kill me for putting it on the family cash-card. If you like John's work, you might consider contributing a bit to his research as well (and if it's a choice, I'd rather compensate him than myself). I can also email you more photos, if you're interested -- I have a broadband account, so the upload time is minimal. Please realize that I can't send them all though, since I have a 5 meg limit on email attachments (except for Comcast customers: 10mb). In terms of closeups, we've been able to do significantly better than anybody that came before us: I actually scratched my lens bumping it against John's samples, and that was with the telephoto zoomed in. I was able to get much more detail on the surface & interior structure of these samples than I've seen in the past, and shot a mixture of IR-mode and standard light-setting shots to show it in as much detail as possible. Finally, at present, I don't have Mike's DVD footage on tape, but I should have this by the middle of next week. Just an FYI -- I was focused on John, so I literally have no idea what Shafer was shooting, but my hope is that he was able to get good shots of the equipment that I wasn't focusing on, as well as the hope that if he got me on camera, that the camera might take off the extra 10-pounds from this summer :o) Feel free to forward this around! Tim Ventura http://www.americanantigravity.com Phone: 425-820-5675 Mobile: 425-260-4175 tventura6@comcast.net From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 19:28:10 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 19:28:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BAD - BUT NOT SURPRISING NEWS . . . Message-ID: <010601c5b80a$c981adf0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Received from "George", ex-Air Force Academy, and a Ham radio operator contact of mine. George doesn't suffer fools easily, and he's not a b.s. artist. If he says he saw this, you can be sure it happened. What follows is not pretty, and George's terms are blunt. But he's been in the 'zone', and with few exceptions, the rest of us haven't. "George" is a pseudonym, to protect the innocent. -MB Subject: Katrina update - the straight word I'm not sure you knew that I bought a home in Baton Rouge last month so my wife could be near her family while I've been away on business. She weathered the hurricane, and I went down to assess the situation last Wednesday. It was quickly apparent that I had to get her out of there. So, I brought her back to New York with me last Friday. Below is a first-hand account from my trip (extracted from an email I just sent to one of my do-gooder liberal friends who thinks she needs to hurry down there and volunteer to help the poor refugees). We had no power in BR; thus no telephone/computer/email. Other issues much more pressing. Carjackings are rampant (appx 15-20 per day). Many of those with bullets through the head of the drivers. When I was there, I drove with a .357 Magnum pistol in my lap and was prepared to use it. 99% of the people that were out-and-about were black; many blatantly waving guns. Jesse Jackson dropped his three busloads of evacuees off in the parking lot of the Mall of Louisiana after his photo op in New Orleans... never had a plan to take them anywhere... had nothing lined up. Within an hour after he dropped them off, every car in the parking lot had their windows broken out and vandalized. Then, they spread out to the surrounding areas doing the same: put a bullet in everyone who got in their way. Maureen's niece had her money grabbed from her hand while handing it to the bank teller in a drive-through window in broad daylight. Many rapes and murders every night in and near the downtown shelter. Police called in to stop the blacks threatening to kill every white LSU student near the stadium. LSU game immediately cancelled and this week's game moved to Arizona due to more threats of violence and disruption. Maureen's son went down to the shelter to volunteer. Said there was more food and water there than could ever be consumed. He left early after having his life threatened by poor, underprivileged blacks who've been repressed by whites. In case you haven't picked up on my frame of mind... I don't have a lot of sympathy for the bastards! Absolutely out of control and most of this unreported due to fears of "racism" flavor from TV pundits. We found out yesterday that our house was broken into and looted. Maureen's sister drove by and saw the garage door open. Maureen flew back this morning to see what we have left, if anything, in our home. I'm certain they didn't take food and water! I've heard they are quickly moving more military into Baton Rouge and have restored some order. But, I wouldn't be in any hurry to get there to help these poor suffering refugees if I were you. " "George" From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 20:27:13 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 20:27:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Interference RNA Message-ID: <010d01c5b813$08acd100$d0c5bc41@mikey> Secret life of RNA DNA's helper is a powerbroker in its own right. Who knew? By AMY ADAMS, in Stanford Medical Magazine Until 1998, geneticists had a frustrating vacancy in their molecular toolbox. They had abundant tools for adding new genes to cells but no simple way to find out what would happen if they took a gene away. That left one side of genetic research more or less unexplored. Then came a Nature paper by Andrew Fire, PhD, at the Carnegie Institution's embryology research center in Baltimore, and Craig Mello, PhD, of the University of Massachusetts Medical School in Worcester. This paper showed for the first time that the well-known molecule RNA could slip into a cell, seek out a gene's "make a protein" message and then destroy it. They called this process RNA interference or RNAi. http://mednews.stanford.edu/stanmed/2005winter/rna.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 20:31:34 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 20:31:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A cute little rocket... Message-ID: <010e01c5b813$a410eff0$d0c5bc41@mikey> ...even if it is 1940's tech! http://www.spacex.com/index.html?section=falcon&content=http%3A//www.spacex. com/falcon_9.php From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 20:39:23 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 12 20:39:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New foundation for physics? Message-ID: <011301c5b814$bbeb64b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Abstract We have discovered a new foundation for physics, which quantifies the Aether, demonstrates its existence, and provides a valid paradigm accommodating the observable phenomena of the Universe. Some aspects of the theory derive from the Standard Model, but much is unique. The Standard Model of physics has certain fundamental errors in the understanding of mass and charge. A key discovery from this new foundation is a mathematically correct Unified Force Theory. Other fundamental discoveries follow, including the origin of the fine structure constant and subatomic particle g-factors, a slight correction of neutron magnetic moment, a geometrical structure for charge, the quantification of electromagnetic charge as separate from electrostatic charge, a more precise meaning of spin, the quantification of space-resonance in five dimensions, and a new system of quantum units. The Aether quantifies as a fabric of quantum rotating magnetic fields with electromagnetic, electrostatic, and gravitational dipole structures. Subatomic particles quantify as angular momentum encapsulated in a quantum, rotating magnetic field. All quantum, atomic, and molecular processes can be precisely modeled, leading to discrete physics with new understandings and insights. http://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 12 21:25:59 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 12 21:26:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: BAD - BUT NOT SURPRISING NEWS . . . In-Reply-To: <010601c5b80a$c981adf0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 12, 2005 10:28:10 PM Message-ID: <20050913042559.1770.qmail@mall-net.com> Yes, not surprising... to this point. (WHere did they say she flew back? Not him???) > lot > of the Mall of Louisiana after his photo op in New Orleans... never had = > a > plan to take them anywhere... had nothing lined up. Within an hour = > after > he=20 > dropped them off, every car in the parking lot had their windows broken = > out > and > vandalized. Then, they spread out to the surrounding areas doing the = > same: > put a bullet in everyone who got in their way. =20 Does not ring true. Armed refugees? Poor black armed refugees??? maybe if they broke in to a gun store; but then there would be quite a few who shot themselves. Crazies are not refugees. They are two Very different animals! > Maureen's niece had her money grabbed from her hand while handing it to = > the=20 > bank teller in a drive-through window in broad daylight. Many rapes = Little hard to do... Not impossible, but rather hard with the drive-through's that I know. Some questions here. DO you know the guy personally? Or is this a friend of a friend? A FOAF, as common to urban legends. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 21:55:35 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 12 21:56:04 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, HEALTH TECHNOLOGIES, AND CLATHRATES. In-Reply-To: <20050911143612.34067.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050913045535.43468.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Energy alternatives take time to develop. THAT IS FAR TOO DAMNED LONG TO TAKE; WE NEED WAR MACHINE ASSEMBLY LINE PRODUCTION SPEED, FOR BOTH ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES, AND HEALTH TECHNOLOGIES, ALIKE. > Lots of research needs to be done, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT WHEN WILL IT BE DONE??? equipment designed, I'M READY TO SEE SOME UNIFIED TEAMWORK ACTION GOING, TO GET THE SHIT INTO MASS SCALE PRODUCTION; AND NOT THE ENDLESS GODDAMNED LOLLY GAGGING AROUND ENDLESS BULLSHIT TALK, BY ALL OF THE FUCKING WORTHLESS POLITICIANS. etc. before we can pull methane from clathrates. > HOW LONG? ::::::: Five or ten years more. TOO DAMNED LONG TO TAKE! I WANT IT NOW. We are already working at it. WHO IS WE??? Some test wells have been dug and energy extracted. I forget where, but you can research it. I WILL LOOK FOR THE BEST SITES AND THEN ADD THEM TO MY LIST OF WEBLINKS. Problem is, how do you use it. Simplest would be converting it to propane or octane. GOOD! IS THAT PROCESS VERY COMPLICATED, AS FAR AS DESIGNING AND ENGINEERING OF REFINERY EQUIPMENT IS CONCERNED??? I NEED TO GO FOR NOW. I'LL REPLY MORE LATER. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050912/e2c35d60/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 12 22:30:25 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 12 22:30:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, HEALTH TECHNOLOGIES, In-Reply-To: <20050913045535.43468.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 12, 2005 09:55:35 PM Message-ID: <20050913053025.24219.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Energy alternatives take time to develop. > THAT IS FAR TOO DAMNED LONG TO TAKE; WE NEED WAR MACHINE ASSEMBLY LINE PRODUCTION SPEED, FOR BOTH ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES, AND HEALTH TECHNOLOGIES, ALIKE. Clyde, we don't know what to do yet. Not well enough to commit tons of money to making something which might flop. > > Lots of research needs to be done, > > IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT WHEN WILL IT BE DONE??? It is being done now. > equipment designed, > > I'M READY TO SEE SOME UNIFIED TEAMWORK ACTION GOING, TO GET THE SHIT INTO MASS SCALE PRODUCTION; AND NOT THE ENDLESS GODDAMNED LOLLY GAGGING AROUND ENDLESS BULLSHIT TALK, BY ALL OF THE FUCKING WORTHLESS POLITICIANS. What do we manufacture??? Politicians don't manufacture anything. Industrialists do. Takes a year to build a factory, a year to get the paper work and planning through, and several years to staff it and get the production running smoothly. We don't even know what to manufacture yet! Without that, we don't know if we are building a new auto engine, or a refinery. > etc. before we can pull methane from clathrates. > > > HOW LONG? ::::::: > > Five or ten years more. > > TOO DAMNED LONG TO TAKE! > I WANT IT NOW. Reality is. First we have to imagine it. Then we have to debug it, build it, etc. that all takes a lot of time. Five to ten years is highly optimistic. Mike? What do you think of the problem of converting methane to an octane-like blend? You're the chemist. What's the energy density comparison to propane, octane, etc.? How do you handle the stuff. Or more to the point, how long does it take to learn how to do these things on a production scale? > We are already working at it. > > WHO IS WE??? The oil companies have some people looking at it, some universities and others are dong research, etc. But it is far from clear that clathrates are the way to go. For one thing, they are unstable and prone to gasifying, so drilling is problematic. One slip up, and your methane field erupts in bubbles, reducing the density of the water, and sinking your drilling rig. Not to mention Methane is a greenhouse gas, as is the carbon dioxide produced when methane is burned. A landslide in the Medeterranian is what ended the last ice age. Clathrates were stirred up, released megatons of methane, and the earth warmed up from the resulting greenhouse effect, melting the ice caps back. Also, Methane is harder to handle than propane because it is less dense, requiring more compression, etc. to get the same energy output. That is why so many oil wells simply burn off the natural gas that comes with the oil. (Or use to twenty years ago. Not sure if they still do.) Then methane is highly explosive. That's why no one wants to let natural gas ships dock around the major cities where the gas is needed. > Problem is, how do you use it. Simplest would be converting it to > propane or octane. > > GOOD! Not for the oil company; but for the consumer. Use it like gasoline. > IS THAT PROCESS VERY COMPLICATED, AS FAR AS DESIGNING AND ENGINEERING OF REFINERY EQUIPMENT IS CONCERNED??? Not a clue! But in any event, a lot of processes have to be experimented with, debugged, scaled up, etc. etc. etc. Till there is a tax on money going out of the country, there is little incentive to use local sources. And since no one can own the portions of the sea where these methane clathrates are, no one is lobbying to sell them. No one really wants to be first, because there is still a lot of risk. Say Texaco develops a huge refinery, and Exxon, starting later, finds a way that's 20% cheaper? Texaco's investment is wasted as Exxon undercuts them in the marketplace. And Texaco goes out of business. Or what if soeone invents a good solar hydrogen method? Then both Texaco and Exxon end up with huge losses on the money they invested in developing and producing their "Clatholine" gasoline. It's a high stakes game, life and death for them. So they want a reasonable understanding of what the likely outcomes are. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 22:41:36 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 12 22:41:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WELFARE STATE, AND THE TOTALITARIAN FINANCIAL KONTROL KOMPLEX. In-Reply-To: <20050909200534.66845.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050913054136.67703.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > COLORADO, OR MAYBE MONTANA, ARE BOTH CALLING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY LIFE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE UP THERE, SINCE I HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE WASTELAND INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN: TULSA. So, un-brainwash yourself. Go look up Viktor Belenko, the pilot who defected to the USA by landing his MIG 29 in Japan. Read his book, how he un-brainwashed himself from the soviet lies, and what kind of life he lead in the USSR. It's a good book. OK; I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT BOOK AT THE TULSA LIBRARY. What do you need for life support? MOSTLY: PEACE IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERMANENT, LASTING, PEACE. PERMANENT, WHOLISTIC NEURAL PEACE! CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050912/424551dc/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 23:31:38 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 12 23:31:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Getting Un-Crazy In-Reply-To: <20050903062153.65286.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050913063138.58993.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Attitude... How does that song go... When the dog bites, When the bee stings, When I'm feeling sad, I simply remember my favorite things, And then I don't feel so bad. Clyde, if you want to get better, you need to reduce anger. I NEED SERENITY IN MY LIFE; TO ACCEPT THE THINGS THAT I CANNOT CHANGE, AND THEN TO BLAST THROUGH THOSE THINGS WITH THE POWER OF INFINITE + ABSOLUTE FORCE, TO FORGE AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT DESTINY FOR MYSELF. To do that, you need to set aside a little bit of time each evening to remember some good times, and think what made them good. I DO REMEMBER GOOD TIMES. REMEMBERING HOME. HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND MY HOME WAS RUINED BY MY PARENTS DIVORCE, AMONG SOME OTHER THINGS. This mental exercise is just as important to your life now, setting aside some time to practice playing a piano is if you want to become a good piano player. You have to teach your brain, ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WILL HELP. I NOW HAVE ALL THREE COILS WOUND AND SECURED, WITH SILICONE R.T.V., I NEXT HAVE TO AFFIX THE TWO BANANA JACKS; ONE ON EACH END OF THE P.V.C. FORMER, FOR A PLUG AND PLAY SETUP. PURCHASING A CONTROL TIMER IS GOING TO HAVE TO REMAIN SHELVED UNTIL NEXT MONTH, BECAUSE OF THE INSUFFICIENCY OF ANTI-MONEY. lead your brain to thinking of better things so that you don't get mired down in the endless thoughts of why things are bad. You need to remember things that made you happy. And then, maybe try to do more of them, where appropriate. IF I COULD REBUILD MY LIFE. I could say many things worse about San Jose if I wanted to. It's so polluted that I can't go down here anymore without getting sick. I THINK I HAVE 'PERMANENT' LIVER DAMAGE, DUE TO THE OVERDOSING OF AMERICA PRESCRIPTION DRUG SLAVE-DOM THAT HAS BEEN FORCED UPON MY LIFE, AGAINST MY WILL. MY PARENTS HAVE BOTH, EQUALLY SCREWED MY LIFE UP. That's why I am stuck in these mountains with really unfit Igors for neighbors. Why I spent nine months camping out here in a tent, before building this cabin. MAYBE I JUST NEED TO GET A TENT, AND LEAVE FOR COLORADO, AND LIVE THAT WAY, UNTIL I CAN BUILD A GEODESIC DOME; ALTHOUGH THERE IS THE WORRY OF WILD BEARS FUCKING WITH ME, AND EVEN KILLING ME, IF I WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE. THE DOME PROJECT WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN, IF FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO AQUIRE. Do I call San Jose a slum? No, because it isn't. It's a vibrant technology city. I just can't go there; that does not mean others can't. TULSA IS A FOREVER HALF ASSED TECHNOLOGY 'CITY' (SHITTY). PROGRESS GOES ANTI-FAR, HERE, IN THIS SHITHOLE WASTELAND. What do I dream about? About things I did there, the successes, the people, the fun I had. I miss those things. But I don't blame the city for my health problems. WELL; THE SHITTY ISN'T THE ENTIRE GIST OF MY HEALTH PROBLEMS, BUT IT IS A LARGE PART, FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT ALSO FOR MANY OTHERS AS WELL. I HAVE TWO FRIENDS WHO HATE TULSA JUST AS MUCH AS I DO NOW. I USED TO HAVE RESPECT FOR TULSA; THAT RESPECT IS LOST. Other people down there are healthy. You see, by thinking about the good things, I program my mind to do more of the good things, to see more opportunities to do the good things. Even if elsewhere. What does calling Tulsa a slumburb get you? ACTUALLY; I LIVE IN A TULSA SLUMBURB, AND OTHER PEOPLE HERE, LIVE IN FOREVER GO NOWHERE SLUM-URBS. THIS PLACE IS A TECHNOLOGICAL WASTELAND; ONCE VIBRANT WITH TECHNOLOGY, BUT SO MANY BUSINESSES HAVE PACKED UP, THROUGH THE YEARS, AND HAVE MOVED OUT, AND CONTINUE TO DO SO, TO THIS DAMNED DAY. TULSA HAS A METROPOLITAN AREA: DOWNSLUM TULSA; THE CENTER OF THE SINKHOLE. IF I WERE GEORGE KAISER; (THE SCROODGE C.E.O. OF THE WILLIAMS BANK OF OKLAHOMA LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER), I WOULD PUT FORTH A MAJOR INVESTMENT IN THE CLEANING UP AND RESTORATION OF THE DOWNSLUM AREA, AND MAKE IT INTO A DOWNTOWN AREA INSTEAD. Does it help you get more things done? See more opportunities? Encourage you to try harder? I'D LIKE TO GO AND TALK TO GEORGE KAISER, AND SEE WHAT HE REALLY DOES WITH HIS TIME AND HIS LIFE; WHAT DOES HE DO WITH THE WEALTH OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED IN HIS ALUMINUM IVORY EIFFEL LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER; THE TALLEST BUILDING IN OKLAHOMA? WHY IS HEALTHCARE SO SHITTY IN THIS SHITTY? BECAUSE THIS SHITTY IS A SHITTY. FROM MY LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PERSPECTIVE, WHERE I COME FROM, MR. KAISER IS NO MORE BETTER THAN A FUCKING TULSA DOWNSLUM STREET BUM, OF WHICH HE PROMOTES THE HOMELESSNESS OF ALL OF THE CRAZY STREET PEOPLE; (DOWNTOWN) DOWNSLUM, WHO WANDER THE STREETS, WHO HAVE LOST THEIR SOULS TO THIS WORTHLESS SHIT EMPIRE, BUILT ON THE EVERSHIFTING SANDS OF THE TOXIC AS HELL, TULSA OKLAHOMA PORTION, OF THE 'ARKANSHIT' (ARKANSAS) RIVER. No. It is just convincing yourself that you can't succeed and justifying your "inability to play a piano perfectly in two lessons." No one can do that. Not even the greatest piano genius that ever lived! So take some time each evening to think about the good things you enjoyed, the things you want more of. It's like a kind of prayer, only you are praying to your own mind to open up and recognize the good parts of life. I like this song: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens; Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens; Brown paper packages tied up with strings; These are a few of my favorite things. Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels; Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles; Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings; These are a few of my favorite things. Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes; Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes; Silver-white winters that melt into springs; These are a few of my favorite things. When the dog bites, When the bee stings, When I'm feeling sad, I simply remember my favorite things, And then I don't feel so bad. Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote that music. It's good advice for living a healthy and reasonably happy life. DIDN'T MARY POPPINS SING AND PERFORM THAT SONG??? SEEMS LIKE IT WAS HER WHO PERFORMED THAT SONG IN THE CHILDHOOD MUSICAL PLAY. I DON'T REMEBER THE NAME OF THAT MUSICAL THOUGH. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050912/05f9cbf3/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 12 23:50:20 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 12 23:50:23 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE WELFARE STATE, In-Reply-To: <20050913054136.67703.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 12, 2005 10:41:36 PM Message-ID: <20050913065020.53653.qmail@mall-net.com> > What do you need for life support? > > MOSTLY: PEACE IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > PERMANENT, LASTING, PEACE. The Buddhists offer some... But when you have lasting peace, you are dead. If you zone out on some Buddhist chant, you are not you anymore, you are nothing, you feel nothing, you do nothing. I have exprienced Nirvana. It's just another mental straight jacket. Action! Doing! Crossing the bridge fast enough that even as it colapses beneath your feet, you make it to the other side! As for memories of your past, peace brings them forth, for nothing distracts. Action distracts, Action forces you to look forward, not backward. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 23:57:49 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 12 23:57:54 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BITS AND PIECES OF THE ORWELLIAN INTRAFUCKTURE. In-Reply-To: <20050907161519.17732.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050913065749.32296.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> BITS AND PIECES OF THE ORWELLIAN INTRAFUCKTURE (WEBLINKS): 1. http://www.alpha.com/ 2. http://www.aep.com/ 3. http://www.cox.com/ 4. http://www.calea.org/ 5. http://www.fcc.gov/calea/ 6. http://www.askcalea.net/ 7. http://www.cotse.net/privacy/magic_lantern.htm 8. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore1.htm 9. http://online.securityfocus.com/news/97 10. http://www.starlink.clarityconnect.com/cyberspy.html 11. http://www.naruc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=334 12. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_47/b3909130_mz018.htm 13. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm 14. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm 15. http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/printthread.php?t=5891 16. http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050913/bbc5fb0c/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 13 06:23:47 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 13 06:23:55 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Perpetual motion? Overunity? Message-ID: <013501c5b866$601549b0$d0c5bc41@mikey> The Minato wheel. http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/curtis.htm http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/clubs/stem/weirdscience/minato%20magnet%20wheel .htm or: http://snipurl.com/hn4k From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 13 07:45:32 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 13 07:45:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Bad science in the media Message-ID: <014601c5b871$cbbf3c10$d0c5bc41@mikey> Don't dumb me down Thursday September 8, 2005 The Guardian OK, here's something weird. Every week in Bad Science we either victimise some barking pseudoscientific quack, or a big science story in a national newspaper. Now, tell me, why are these two groups even being mentioned in the same breath? Why is science in the media so often pointless, simplistic, boring, or just plain wrong? Like a proper little Darwin, I've been collecting specimens, making careful observations, and now I'm ready to present my theory. http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1564369,00.html or: http://snipurl.com/hn8a From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 13 07:50:51 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 13 07:50:58 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More Mad science! Message-ID: <014901c5b872$898cdd60$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.his.com/~pshapiro/taming.hurricanes.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 13 13:55:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 13 13:55:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More Mad science! In-Reply-To: <014901c5b872$898cdd60$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050913205526.61102.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> THAT'S A VERY COOL ARTICLE! CLYDE Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: http://www.his.com/~pshapiro/taming.hurricanes.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050913/4deaf88a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 13 21:53:00 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 13 21:53:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Reminder web addresses; Part seven. In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050914045300.3021.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Reminder web addresses; Part seven: 1. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net 2. http://www.newenergymovement.org/ 3. http://www.newenergymovement.org/newenergyp1.aspx 4. http://www.tshirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/chen.html?Category_Code=newr 5. http://mmae.iit.edu/atesr_lab/PowerMEMS.html 6. http://www.ttivanguard.com/montrealreconn/powerMEMS.pdf 7. http://microfluids.engin.brown.edu/Breuer_Papers/Conferences/AIAA97-1773_Microengine.pdf#search='MICRO%20TURBINE%20POWER%20MEMS' 8. http://www.stormingmedia.us/44/4465/A446583.html 9. http://smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian/issues02/jul02/phenomena.html 10. http://robots.net/article/1319.html 11. http://me.mit.edu/NewsandCalendar/Data/0503111430Sesptein.htm 12. http://www.geocities.com/dfradella/homepage.htm 13. http://rpm2.8k.com/basics.htm 14. http://rpm2.8k.com/compare.htm 15. http://www.newswise.com/articles/view?id=FLYBATT.IEE 16. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/seta/2002/05/16/stories/2002051600130200.htm 17. http://energy.sourceguides.com/businesses/byP/batP/batt/btora/bType/fly/fly.shtml 18. http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT/2003/7000/7725Konno.html 19. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/fly.html 20. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/flysb1.html 21. http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/general_info/flywheel.html 22. http://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArticle.asp?strArticleID=56579&strSite=MDSite&Screen=CURRENTISSUE 23. http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6473980 24. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/pressrelease/0402/0402fly.pdf#search='flywheel20batteries' 25. http://regen.0catch.com/facts.htm 26. http://www.aspes.ch/faq.html 27. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/battery-01a.html 28. http://www.upei.ca/~physics/p261/projects/flywheel1/flywheel1.htm 29. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_flywheel_technology_helps/ 30. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_cure_battery_blues/ 31. http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=04-015 32. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/lev.html 33. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/pedestal.html 34. http://www.gh.wits.ac.za/ 35. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446533173/002-6431563-9689615 36. http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/6/emw248814.htm 37. http://www.oragenics.com/ 38. http://www.tomsofmaine.com 39. http://www.jason-natural.com 40. http://www.WholeGrainsCouncil.org 41. http://www.americanantigravity.com/godinroschin.html 42. http://www.esotericscience.com/FreeEnergy.aspx 43. http://www.rexresearch.com/ 44. http://amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html 45. http://www.exair.com 46. http://www.coleparmer.com/requests/default.asp?referred_id=1512 47. http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html 48. http://www.stevequayle.com/ 49. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index819.htm 50. http://www.temcor.com/ 51. http://www.flashtechnology.com/ 52. http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 53. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm 54. http://www.sitepsych.com/alt/bioergo/bwaves.html 55. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera 56. http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/Hijacking_Catastrophe 57. http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050913/333659a8/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 14 06:48:10 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 14 06:48:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] From _The Times_, London Message-ID: <019c01c5b932$f2e9a930$d0c5bc41@mikey> September 11, 2005 Focus: White do-gooders did for black America Black poverty is the result of 30 years of misguided welfare rather than racism, says John McWhorter As it quickly became clear that there was a certain demographic skew among the people stranded in New Orleans, journalists began intoning that Hurricane Katrina had stripped bare the continuing racial inequity in America. The extent to which this was hidden is unclear, actually. An awareness that a tragic disproportion of black Americans are poor has been a hallmark of civic awareness among educated Americans for 40 years now. The problem is less a lack of awareness than a lack of understanding. The publicly sanctioned take is that "white supremacy" is why 80% of New Orleans's poor people are black. The civics lesson, we are to think, is that the civil rights revolution left a job undone in an America still hostile to black advancement. In fact, white America does remain morally culpable - but because white leftists in the late 1960s, in the name of enlightenment and benevolence, encouraged the worst in human nature among blacks and even fostered it in legislation. The hordes of poor blacks stuck in the Superdome last week wound up there not because the White Man barred them from doing better, but because certain tragically influential White Men destroyed the fragile but lasting survival skills poor black communities had maintained since the end of slavery. Few thinking people regret the flower children's opposition to the Vietnam war, sexism and racial discrimination. But these advances also spelt the demise of old standards of responsibility. Taught that criminality and violence must be judged in proportion to the extent to which poverty and discrimination have coloured one's existence, the enlightened white person saw black violence as "understandable". This meant a largely theatrical black separatist ideology, drastically short on constructive aims, had a public sanction that it had never had before. Hating whitey for its own sake now had an ear among the influential and quickly became the word on the street. There was a new sense that the disadvantages of being black gave one a pass on civility - or even achievement: this was when black teens started teasing black nerds for "acting white". Behaviour that most of a black community would have condemned as counterproductive started to seem normal. Through the late 1960s blacks burnt down their own neighbourhoods as gestures of being "fed up". But blacks had been "fed up" for centuries: why were these the first riots initiated by blacks rather than white thugs - when the economy was flush and employment opportunities were opening up as never before? Because the culture had changed, in ways that hindered too many blacks from taking advantage of the civil rights revolution. Meanwhile, the most grievous result of the new consensus was black American history's most under-reported event, the expansion of welfare. Until now, welfare had been a pittance intended for widows, unavailable as long as the father of one's children was able-bodied and accounted for, and granted for as little time as possible. In 1966, however, a group of white academics in New York developed a plan to bring as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible. Across the country, poor blacks especially were taught to apply for living on the dole even when they had been working for a living, and by 1970 there were 169% more people on welfare nationwide than in 1960. This was the first time that whites or blacks had taught black people not to work as a form of civil rights. Politicians and bureaucrats jumped on the new opportunity for political patronage and votes, and welfare quickly became a programme that essentially paid young women to have children. Only in 1996 was welfare limited to five years and focused on training for work. But by then generations of poor blacks had grown up in neighbourhoods where there was no requirement that fathers support their children. Few grew up watching their primary parent work for a living. Most people paid nominal subsidies as rent and were thus less inclined to treat their living spaces well. The multigenerational welfare family with grandmothers in their forties became typical: young women had babies in their teens because there was no reason not to with welfare waiting to pick up the tab. This is the hell that most of the people in the Superdome either lived in or knew at close hand, and none of them could help being stamped by it. Welfare reform was only nine years ago. The women now past the five-year cap are mostly struggling in dead-end jobs. This is better than living on the dole. But these women are weighed down by too many kids created under the old regime to have the time or energy to get the education to get beyond where they are. Poor black neighbourhoods are not what they were at the height of the crack epidemic in the 1980s, but they are still a crying shame. The poor black America that welfare expansion created in 1966 is still with us. Poor young blacks have never known anything else. People as old as 50 have only vague memories of life before it. For 30 years this was a world within a world, as is made clear from how often the Katrina refugees mention it is the first time they have ever left New Orleans. What Katrina stripped bare, then, was not white supremacy, but that culture matters - even if what created the culture was misguided white benevolence. Social scientists neglect that before the 1960s poor blacks knew plenty of economic downturns and plenty more racism. But before the 1960s the kinds of behaviour so common among the blacks stranded in the Superdome, possibly including multiple rapes, was a fringe phenomenon. Only after the 1960s did it become a community norm. Wise people tell us that poor blacks in New Orleans went to rack and ruin when low-skill industrial jobs left the city centre, a common argument about cities nationwide. But in cities like Indianapolis where the factories largely stayed close, the same degradation began - starting in the late 1960s. Wise people tell us that housing projects destroyed poor black communities by concentrating too many poor people in one place. But in city after city, these projects were peaceful places until welfare recipients were allowed to move in in large numbers. All indications are that the reform of welfare in 1996 is bearing fruit in terms of income and the life conditions of children. Hopefully, legions of poor black people who return to New Orleans will take advantage of the job opportunities that rebuilding a city will offer. But what we should all remember from Katrina is a tragic close-up of a group of people staggering after, first, a hideous natural disaster but, ultimately, an equally hideous sociological disaster of 40 years ago. John McWhorter is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute THE RACE ROW We must ... come to terms with the ugly truth that skin colour, age and economics played a deadly role in who survived and who did not - Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic party Nobody, especially the president, would have left people unattended on the basis of race - Condoleezza Rice You'd have to go back to slavery, or the burning of black towns, to find a comparable event that has affected black people this way - Darnell M Hunt, head of African-American studies at UCLA You see a black family, it (the press) says 'They're looting'. You see a white family it says 'They're looking for food'. George Bush doesn't care about black people! - rap singer Kanye West It wasn't a racial thing - but poverty disproportionately affects African- Americans in this country. And it happened because they were poor - Colin Powell Today I saw 5,000 African-Americans desperate, perishing, dehydrated, babies dying. It looked like Africans in the hull of a slave ship. It was ugly - the Rev Jesse Jackson Copyright 2005 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions . Please read our Privacy Policy . To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Times, visit the Syndication website . From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 14 07:47:51 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 14 07:47:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PORTION OF PART SEVEN. In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050914144752.39480.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> PORTION OF PART SEVEN, WITH NOTES ADDED AFTER CERTAIN WEBLINKS. CLYDE Reminder web addresses; Part seven: 1. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net 2. http://www.newenergymovement.org/ 3. http://www.newenergymovement.org/newenergyp1.aspx 4. http://www.tshirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/chen.html?Category_Code=newr 36. http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/6/emw248814.htm 37. http://www.oragenics.com/ (ALTERNATIVE DENTAL HEALTHCARE TREATMENT.) 38. http://www.tomsofmaine.com (NATURAL HEALTHCARE PRODUCTS.) 39. http://www.jason-natural.com (NATURAL HEALTHCARE PRODUCTS.) 40. http://www.WholeGrainsCouncil.org (INFORMATION ON WHOLE GRAIN BREADS - REAL MCCOY BREAD; AND NOT THE FAKE ASS SHIT THAT IS SOLD AT CONVENTION CRAP GROCERY STORES) 41. http://www.americanantigravity.com/godinroschin.html 42. http://www.esotericscience.com/FreeEnergy.aspx 43. http://www.rexresearch.com/ 44. http://amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html *47. http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html (STAN DEYO'S SURVIVAL WEBSITE.)* 48. http://www.stevequayle.com/ (STEVE QUALYE'S WEBSITE; ALSO A GOOD WEBSITE.) 49. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index819.htm 50. http://www.temcor.com/ (ADVANCED GEODESIC DOMES, FOR BOTH RESIDENCE AND INDUSTRY.) 51. http://www.flashtechnology.com/ (ADVANCED LIGHT BEACON TECHNOLOGY.) 52. http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 (A HEALTH TECHNOLOGY THAT NEEDS MASS SCALE COOPERATIVE PRODUCTION EFFORT, WITH WARTIME SPEED.) 53. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm (REGARDING BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT.) 54. http://www.sitepsych.com/alt/bioergo/bwaves.html (REGARDING ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT.) 55. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera (REGARDING THE TRUE LOTUS FLOWER.) 56. http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/Hijacking_Catastrophe (REGARDING THE SUPPRESSED TRUTH BEHIND SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.) 57. http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org (REGARDING THE SUPPRESSED TRUTH BEHIND SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001, AND HOW TO ORDER THE VIDEO.) --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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OTHER WATER TOXIN CONTENT, AND THE QUANTITY. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050914/1f840442/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 14 09:41:17 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 14 09:41:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050914164117.38504.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> GREEK ALPHABET: ALPHA. BETA. GAMMA. DELTA. EPSILON. ZETA. ETA. THETA. IOTA. KAPPA. LAMBDA. MU. NU. XI. OMICRON. PI. RHO. SIGMA. TAU. UPSILON. PHI. CHI. PSI. OMEGA. http://www.sitepsych.com/alt/bioergo/bwaves.html I had originally thought that brainwave frequencies were 'measured' in the exact same order as the Greek alphabet; Just as nuclear radioactivity is measured, using Greek symbols / letters / words / phonetics. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm Non-nuclear radioactivity, and nuclear radioactivity are part of the great radio controversy, that Tesla and Einstein were part of. Seperate: Cancer metastasis of biological cells ='s nuclear mutation and degeration; (Cancer). Question: Can E.L.F. ; (Extra Low Frequencies) if used properly, rejuvenate, and regenerate biological cellular function - life itself? Possible 'lost' technolog(y)/ies of the gods of antiquity? Clyde __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050914/a8508f89/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 14 10:24:17 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 14 10:24:23 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050914164117.38504.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 14, 2005 09:41:17 AM Message-ID: <20050914172417.72701.qmail@mall-net.com> > Question: > Can E.L.F. ; (Extra Low Frequencies) if used > properly, rejuvenate, and regenerate biological > cellular function - life itself? Hutchinson, in "Mega Brain Power" and subsequent newsletters suggests that theta band brain entrainment might help people heal. Some more recent research suggests that a cat's purring, vibrating itself in the theta bands, significantly helps the cat to heal. > Possible 'lost' technolog(y)/ies of the gods of > antiquity? The gots of antiquity only romped in human imagination. Witho our machines and wealth, we have become the gods of the past. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 14 10:49:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 14 10:49:17 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050914172417.72701.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050914174902.80242.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Question: > Can E.L.F. ; (Extra Low Frequencies) if used > properly, rejuvenate, and regenerate biological > cellular function - life itself? Hutchinson, in "Mega Brain Power" and subsequent newsletters suggests that theta band brain entrainment might help people heal. Some more recent research suggests that a cat's purring, vibrating itself in the theta bands, significantly helps the cat to heal. > Possible 'lost' technolog(y)/ies of the gods of > antiquity? The gods of antiquity only romped in human imagination, without our machines and wealth; We have become the gods of the past. OK. I HAVE THE E.M. BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT 'HELMET' MARK ONE, FINISHED. I COULD TRY IT, THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, AS IT IS, BUT INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO PURCHASE A SUFFICIENT TIMER FOR THE UNIT RIGHT NOW. I PREFER TO TAKE AS MUCH SAFETY PRECAUTIONS INTO CONSIDERATION AS POSSIBLE, AND SO, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DRUDGE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS MONTH, WISHING THAT THE PROJECT COULD BE COMPLETE. MY LIFE IS INCOMPLETE. I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THE PROFESSIONAL INTERMATIC TIMERS THAT ARE SOLD AT GRAYBAR, CAN BE SET TO WHERE THEY FUNCTION ONLY IN THE RANGE OF MINUTES WORTH OF TIME. I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY ONLY OPERATE IN HOURS WORTH OF TIME, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT 15 MINUTES WORTH OF TIME SHOULD BE A MAXIMUM USEAGE OF ENTRAINMENT, FOR A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME, TO INDUCE EITHER PEACE, OR TO INDUCE SLEEP. I WONDER IF INTERMATIC HAS TIMERS THAT OPERATE IN THE MINUTE RANGE ONLY, AND NOT JUST IN HOURS. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050914/adfb7e05/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 14 11:11:41 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 14 11:11:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050914174902.80242.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 14, 2005 10:49:02 AM Message-ID: <20050914181141.13649.qmail@mall-net.com> > > I COULD TRY IT, THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, AS IT IS, BUT INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO PURCHASE A SUFFICIENT TIMER FOR THE UNIT RIGHT NOW. What is the safety consideration? that you will fall asleep forever in the device? What happens if you fall asleep? You fall or lay down. If you were to suspend the device from the ceiling so that your head fit in it, but that your head would go out of it if you were to faint or fall, that would be enough, no? Use padding or do it above your bed so you fall into your bed. Similar if you have the line cord or signal cord in your hand such that if your hand moves down, the unit unplugs. > I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY ONLY OPERATE IN HOURS WORTH OF TIME, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT 15 MINUTES WORTH OF TIME SHOULD BE A MAXIMUM USEAGE OF ENTRAINMENT, FOR A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME, TO INDUCE EITHER PEACE, OR TO INDUCE SLEEP. If your brain is not firing a very strong persistent pattern, yes. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 14 16:58:39 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 14 16:58:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050914181141.13649.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050914235839.58986.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I COULD TRY IT, THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, AS IT IS, BUT INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO PURCHASE A SUFFICIENT TIMER FOR THE UNIT RIGHT NOW. What is the safety consideration? that you will fall asleep forever in the device? YES; IF I DON'T USE WISDOM. What happens if you fall asleep? FALLING ASLEEP IS DESIRED. I WANT TO EXPERIMENT WITH 7.8 C.P.S. (HZ.), AND BELOW. I HAVE LITTLE INTEREST IN FREQUENCIES ABOVE 7.8 HZ.- -AT LEAST FOR NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY FREQUENCIES ABOVE 7.8 C.P.S. WILL BE OF ANY USEFULNESS TO ME IN THE FUTURE. IN YOUR CASE, HAVE YOU FOUND FREQUENCIES ABOVE 7.8. HZ. TO BE OF ANY GOOD USE? You fall or lay down. I'M CONSIDERING THINLY PILLOW CUSIONING THE INTERIOR OF THE P.V.C. HELMET, AND JUST SLEEPING WITH MY HEAD CONTINUOUSLY INSIDE OF IT WHILE I SLEEP AFTER IT IS SWITCHED OFF BY THE APPROPRIATE TIMER, IF I CAN FUCKING FIND THE RIGHT TIMER, IF A MINUTE MEASURING A.C. POWERED TIMER EXISTS, BY INTERMATIC, OR ANOTHER COMPANY OUT THERE. If you were to suspend the device from the ceiling so that your head fit in it, but that your head would go out of it if you were to faint or fall, that would be enough, no? WELL; I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF HANGING THE HELMET FROM THE CEILING, AND BESIDES; I WANT THE HELMET TO BE A PLUG AND PLAY PORTABLE TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT, TO TAKE ON THE ROAD WITH MYSELF, WHEN AND IF, I TRAVEL.. Use padding or do it above your bed so you fall into your bed. I'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO THINLY PILLOW PAD THE INTERIOR OF THE HELMET. Similar if you have the line cord or signal cord in your hand such that if your hand moves down, the unit unplugs. NAH; I DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY. I'VE GOT THE BANANA JACKS ALREADY IN THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE HELMET, SO I CAN JUST DO PLUG AND PLAY, FROM THE HELMET, TO THE AUDIO GENERATOR. BUT I REALLY NEED TO FIND OUT IF INTERMATIC MANUFACTURES A COMMERICAL GRADE AND QUALITY THREE CONDUCTOR TIMER THAT MEASURES TIME IN MINUTES, INSTEAD OF IN HOURS, TO USE FOR THE POWER ON / OFF CONTROL OF THE AUDIO GENERATOR. > I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY ONLY OPERATE IN HOURS WORTH OF TIME, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT 15 MINUTES WORTH OF TIME SHOULD BE A MAXIMUM USEAGE OF ENTRAINMENT, FOR A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME, TO INDUCE EITHER PEACE, OR TO INDUCE SLEEP. If your brain is not firing a very strong persistent pattern, yes. KINDA CONFUSED WITH YOUR RESPONSE HERE; IF MY NEURON FIRING ISN'T A VERY STRONG PERSISTANT PATTERN, ARE YOU SAYING THAT 15 MINUTES SHOULD BE ADEQUATE, FOR BOTH PEACE MEDITATION, AS WELL AS FOR SLEEP? IF I'M IN A STATE OF UNWANTED HYPERACTIVE HYPERTENSION EUPHORIA, AND I WANT TO USE THE BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT TO CALM MY NERVES AND NEUROLOGICAL SYSTEM DOWN, AT WILL; IS 15 MINUTES WORTH OF TIME OF ENTRAINMENT SUFFICIENT, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, TO EASE MY NEUROLOGY, INTO A MEDITATIVE, AND / OR SLEEP STATE? I BUILT THE HELMET AS RUGGED AS POSSIBLE, FOR DECENT TRAVEL-ABILITY. ALSO: SEPERATE SUBJECT: I FINALLY CONVINCED MY P.C.P. M.D. DOCTOR TO DO A PORPHYRIA PYROLURIA URINE TEST. I'LL WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S APPOINTMENT TO SEE THE RESULTS, UNLESS I SHOULD INQUIRE SOONER THAN THAT. I WONDER HOW HONEST THAT MY M.D. WILL BE, WITH THE RESULTS, AND IF HE WOULD GIVE ME RESULTS THAT WOULD CONTRADICT THE TRUTH, IF I INDEED HAVE PORPHYRIA OR PYROLURIA. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050914/728f2ba9/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 14 19:01:15 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 14 19:01:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONTEMPLATING THE VARIOUS FORMS OF RADIOACTIVITY. In-Reply-To: <20050914235839.58986.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 14, 2005 04:58:39 PM Message-ID: <20050915020115.25088.qmail@mall-net.com> What I am trying to tell you, Clyde, is that if you hold things the right way, falling asleep or having other difficulties can interrupt the citcuit to the coils around your head. If you hang it from a lamp and stand under the coils, falling asleep will result in your head falling out of the helmet, removing the magnetic field from your brain. If you hold the wire, looped around your hand so that if you can not hold your hand up, the line will pull out of the signal generator, removing the field from your brain. Either way, you have a reasonable safety system (aka deadman's switch) which is practically free, letting you try the system today, not wait for next month. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. 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If you do not wish to receive these messages in the future, please send an e-mail message to the address Listserv@listserv.abpi.net with the text SIGNOFF Insider as the only text on the first line of the message body. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050915/5d379978/attachment-0001.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 16 09:06:10 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 16 09:06:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] New Orleans Message-ID: <005c01c5bad8$8f593e60$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.wimp.com/orleans/ News report from New Orleans, Katrina +1 day (video) From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 16 10:24:00 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 16 10:24:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Highly intelligent welfare recipients! Message-ID: <006f01c5bae3$6e218440$d0c5bc41@mikey> Amazing! These guys KNEW where the free food was to be found, and said "Hell NO!" to liberty, favoring the free room and board! At least they didn't loot the local Wal-Mart after the hurricane displaced them, as others did. -MB September 15, 2005, _The Times_, London Safe: the eight tame dolphins who found their way back from the hurricane >From Tim Reid in Washington AMID all the stories of devastation and death emerging from Hurricane Katrina, one happy chapter was written yesterday - courtesy of eight bottlenose dolphins. They had lived in a marine aquarium for decades and were domesticated - three were born in captivity - but were washed miles out to sea when the hurricane hit Mississippi. Their owner feared that they lacked the skills of the wild to survive in the Gulf of Mexico. But in a feat of navigation that has stunned their trainers, all eight have been discovered huddled together in fetid water a few hundred yards from land, having found their way back to the site in Gulfport where their aquarium once stood. Their owner, Moby Solangi, speaking to The Times from a boat as he fed the dolphins last night, said: "We thought they were lost. They have all been in captivity for between 30 and 40 years. We didn't think they had any navigation skills, and yet they are back here. We never thought we would find them, all together, so quickly." http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,23889-1780653,00.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Sep 16 10:40:15 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Sep 16 10:40:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The POWER of Free Market Capatalism unbridled!!! Message-ID: <007001c5bae5$b6d0c6e0$d0c5bc41@mikey> New Orleans Open for Business! Maybe not open for welfare, but the port is OPEN! Shipments MOVE! Money FLOWS! THIS IS WHAT WILL REBUILD THE CITY! No amount of Government welfare can ever replace private enterprise. Also, considering Mayor Nigan's welfare-state mentality and failings during this disaster, he should not remain in charge of rebuilding, IMHO. Gary LaGrange, the Now Orleans port president, should be the man in charge of the reconstruction. HE GETS THE JOB DONE! -MB New Orleans' port, airport now reopened By Adam Nossiter ASSOCIATED PRESS September 14, 2005 NEW ORLEANS -- The port of New Orleans, the gateway to a river system serving 33 states along the Mississippi River, was back in operation yesterday, and the airport reopened to commercial flights for the first time since Hurricane Katrina struck more than two weeks ago. Mayor C. Ray Nagin said dry areas of the hurricane-ravaged city -- including the French Quarter, Uptown and the Central Business District -- could be officially opened from dawn to dusk as soon as Monday, provided the Environmental Protection Agency finds the air and water are safe. "We're out of nuclear crisis mode and into normal, day-to-day crisis mode," Mr. Nagin said. http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050914-120327-1397r.htm From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Sep 17 19:25:24 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Sep 17 19:25:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More on the Minato Wheel ZPE device Message-ID: <00d301c5bbf8$39e6fcd0$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=dual From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 18 06:52:39 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 18 06:52:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Send your name to Pluto and beyond! Message-ID: <00ea01c5bc58$3c5cb620$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ecard/ Get you name listed on the first human craft to visit Pluto! (But beware! The aliens might come looking for you!) From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Sep 18 09:16:02 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Sep 18 09:16:20 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Can this be true ????? Message-ID: <1dd.45cc32e5.305eecc2@aol.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Forgotten History" Subject: Forgotten History - The Other Side of FEMA Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:39:32 Size: 8891 Url: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050918/29f7fc7f/attachment.mht From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 18 11:03:21 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 18 11:03:42 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Can this be true ????? In-Reply-To: <1dd.45cc32e5.305eecc2@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Sep 18, 2005 12:16:02 PM Message-ID: <20050918180321.17550.qmail@mall-net.com> > Before the storm FEMA was a little known organization > that was deeply involved with the LA roits and a shadow > government that should send chills done the spines of any- > one who values liberty. Did you know that FEMA spends only > a small portion of its money for natural disasters? Most > of its money is spent on underground facilities that would > suspend the constitution in emergencies. Under Executive > Order Number 12656 it would be used to isolate large groups > of civilians and seal all of our borders. Well, in event of nuclear war Tunguska-like impact, mega-storm, or the like, I should hope there was something there to take command of the resulting chaos and ease us out of it. Remember, one of the functions of government is to plan for and prepare for disaster, so as to insure that we survive. Yes, some draconian things can happen during a disaster. We had one fellow here lose three acres due to fire, and some 20 acres due to the forest service lighting a backfire on his property to stop the real fire. He was really ticked off!!! But if they had not set the backfire, he would have lost all his forest lands. As would others behind him. Fortunately for many others, those plans and guidelines were in place, and were executed. What happens where such guidelines are not in place, where chaos is left to brew? Let's look at the newspapers, putting together the paper trail of what happened with Katrina. Not all newspapers reported some of these details; but ALL of the events below were reported in at least several newspapers. In Louisiana, FEMA was not authorized the powers it needed, as it was in Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas. We don't hear much of those states in this natural disaster, do we? Alabama and Mississippi got hit just about as hard. Bush started the process before the hurricane hit by directing an evacuation of lowlands, and FEMA to start positioning crews in Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and elsewhere. In contrast, in Louisiana, Blanco, refused to allow Federal troops in till the Wednesday after. (And FEMA was never given command of the Louisiana troops.) Blanco also refused to order a pre-storm evacuation as requested by Bush, saying she had plans in place. Bush was advised that short of declaring an insurrection, he could not send the troops in. This was actually considered; but rejected as unconstitutional without laws in place to allow such. Much of Louisiana's disaster happened because Blanco DID NOT evacuate as requested, nor allow FEMA and the US Military to go in and assume the powers they needed. As a result, whenever they were shot at, they simply pulled back and left that area to rot. When ever a licensed person was called for (medic, police, etc.), they were forced to either wait for a local, or walk away and let the problem fester. (Martial law? Louisiana Martial Law, not Federal.) Because Blanco refused, the Red Cross was forced to leave the Superdome, NOT ALLOWED to feed the refugees in the dome despite having literally tons of food and fresh water. Louisiana just wanted to be rid of these people, possibly for good. Because Blanco refused, mobile hospitals staffed by non-Louisiana licensed doctors were forced to sit idle till they left for Mississippi, where they could be used. A number of volunteer doctors were treated the same way, eventually leaving for Mississippi, Alabama, and Texas. Because there were no guidelines and laws in place, Bush could not seize Louisiana and authorize FEMA and the military to help Louisiana. So we see that in event of an emergency, we DO need something with all pervasive powers to insure that this nation survives. And yes, sometimes draconian decisions will have to be made. And sometimes, some of us may lose in those decisions. But the nation must survive. > In April of 1984 President Reagan signed Presidential > Director Number 54, also called Rex 84, which was designed > to round up undocumented Central American immigrants. The Gee wiz, they are illegal anyway, so why not round those criminals up now? > plan also called for the relocation of 21 million African > Americans in the case of massive rioting or disorders. So Well, if Farakan or some other crackpot incites a majority of them to riot, then maybe that would have to be done. Depends on Farakan and his followers, doesn't it? Some of these guys advocate killing all whites, just as some of the neo-idiot whites advocate killing all the blacks. (Suggestion. Put them all in the same compound. Those who survived wouldn't want to repeat it.) And if they don't riot and don't try to destroy America, it won't happen! (I am sure they have plans for doing this to the neo-idiots, as well. There are some pretty wild Americans out there! As long as they don't cause us problems, they are just as welcome as you and I. But when they cross the line, be it with crossbow or tank, we have to be ready to deal with them.) > Under the Iran-Contra criminal Ollie North the agency set-up > an apparatus, which would give it dictatorial powers? On Remember, Ollie is a criminal only due to a legal technicality. He thought he was putting the long term interests of America first. Unfortunately for him, the loophole was too small and there were too many people behind him for him to turn around. Whether what he did or not was right... that's still debated in various circles. As is whether others, above and below, should have fallen with him. But Ollie did one thing right -- he made a big enough spectacle of himself that he could earn cash on the lecture circuit. Maybe that's something that we could learn from. After your 50 foot robot smashes into a building, keep it moving it's arms till the press and the national guard is called out. Then you can earn a comfortable income lecturing about it. And till then, get free room and bored. (Assuming, of course, that no one got killed. It folks get killed, you may end up with free room and total boredom forever. But that can be a good opportunity to practice meditation and visualization.) > July 5, 1987, the Miami Herald published reports on FEMA's > new mandate, and while the reports caused the Reagan > administration to abandon plans, the framework has remained > in place. The program called for the luring of potential > protestors into public forums and then action would be > taken. It was almost implemented during the Rodney King > riots and had the riots spread they would have been enacted. And what if we were unprepared had the riots spread? I mean, it's pretty damned stupid for the blacks to burn their own neighborhoods, isn't it? Yet they did that. But what if it had spread? What if Farakan or some other black leader had been angry or stupid enough to fan the flames? What then? You and I don't think that would happen in a civilized country? We didn't think Hitler would have the rhetorical power to gas the Jews. Krystalnacht and the rest of that history proved otherwise. Come to think of it, another minority in America, made up of no more than 25% of the people, did riot and tried their hand at revolution. These criminals were fanned by a firebrand writer named Tom, a rider named Paul, and a leader named George. The battles were absolutely brutal with farmers shooting soldiers. In the end, the slowly growing competence of the leader, one British criminal named George Washington, and the encouragement of Tom Payne and a bunch of other firebrand radicals like Paul Revere Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, etc. did prevail despite never having more than 25% of the people behind them. That's right, never more than 25%. Our revolution would never have survived a popular vote. Yet it set the world on fire! The only thing that justifies rebellion, is success. Failure just gets you hanged. > This type of tyranny was called by the Edward R. Murrow > Center, "James Madison's worst nightmare." Its first targets > would be people of color, the FEMA orders called for them to > be rounded up and detained. Tax protesters and demonstrators > are the next in line to be persecuted. > > I know this seems hard to believe but consider these > executive orders. It seems hard to believe we would encounter a situation in which they would be required! But if such a situation arises, then it's good to have plans in place. > EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take control > of all modes of transportation. So? In an emergency, those things may need to be done. Which is better? Total chaos, or some ordered process of survival? Letting a bunch of commando types loose at the spur of the moment, unchecked by rules? Or having some sort of plan and order in place for them to follow? I prefer that plans and guidelines be in place, rather than letting the police and military romp at will. While most military and police are dutiful citizens whom we can trust, some can get pretty wild if they think they have The Power. Plans and guidelines keep that kind of power from getting to their heads, as it did for those freebooters who shot at the powerless FEMA troops in Louisiana. Far more, I prefer that the conditions allowing this not happen. As would most involved. That is why I do favor someone have the authority to over-ride a governor like Blanco in times of emergency. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Sep 18 12:46:59 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Sep 18 12:47:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Can this be true ????? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/18/2005 2:04:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: Far more, I prefer that the conditions allowing this not happen. As would most involved. That is why I do favor someone have the authority to over-ride a governor like Blanco in times of emergency. Two ways to look at things, yours makes sense, yet do you really believe there are no people in power who do not think as the people of yesteryear that you mention. Don't forget we had our own concentration camps on the west coast during ww2 for American citizens that were non-white. We were at war with the axes, Japan, Germany and Italy. Do you know of any peoples who were of German or Italian background that were placed in camps here in the U.S. Thousands of these people were loyal to their country and cause, but they were allowed freedom while 8 generation American people were jailed for no reason. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050918/ebf39cd3/attachment.html From agassi at erols.com Sun Sep 18 13:59:40 2005 From: agassi at erols.com (Aaron Agassi) Date: Sun Sep 18 14:00:32 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Who'll stop the rain? Message-ID: <4d64t5$2ivs7k@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely only after they have exhausted all other alternatives." --Abba Eban So much for sweet reason! Because the best and most obvious solutions have been ignored utterly within the beltway, and by all political affiliations alike! Indeed, that which follows is what should the political stump speech for Florida, reflecting true responsibility and ingenuity: Good people of Florida, there has been enough suffering. Together let us put an end to those terrible hurricanes! Questions? Beyond adequate funding for implementation of the inexcusably long delayed crucial improvements and upgrades to the levees, floodgates and pumping stations of New Orleans, and, of course, ever bringing the Florida National Guard back from Iraq, our plan for national and global climate repair, consists of three additional vital points: Firstly, there is the urgent restoration of the Thermohaline, the Arctic deep cold dense salty current which cools the costal waters. Because it is the warm moist rising air from the sea that spawns and feeds ever greater and more numerous tropical storms and hurricanes, not to mention over heating and killing the fragile living coral reefs functioning as a natural breakwater as well as actually increasing population of the Crown of Thorns starfish which eat the coral. As it turns out, the refrigerating effectiveness of the Thermohaline can be restored, fed back into normal health and perhaps even further improved, by the simple return of salt to the ocean at strategic times and locations. Salting the surface ocean water will thereby make it more dense, heavier, and cause it to sink, cool in the dark depths, and then add to and invigorate the waning Thermohaline, to once again more effectively cool the costal waters and dampen the spawning of tropical storms and hurricanes from the sultry rising moisture. Clearly, a crash program of feasibility and impact study and testing for quickest possible safe implementation is already long overdue. The second part of the problem is, of course, is global warming of the atmosphere. My fellow Americans, let us deal with global warming the American way. We will act unilaterally and preemptively! Let us set and attain a goal of reducing the atmospheric percentage of greenhouse carbon gasses in order to lower global warming once and for all. All that is required is adequate carbon sinks. Carbon sinks are any plant life that binds and incorporates carbon gasses as it grows. And the most efficient carbon sinks for the most cost effective allocation of land and other resources, is hydroponics. Food and all manner of useful products and materials can be produced by hydroponics, to actually profit from significant and much needed economic growth and recovery, while actually reducing greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere as a happy byproduct. Of course, a major danger of global warming comes from destitute grinding poverty and subsistence farming in Latin America, the slashing and burning of the Amazon jungles. And it is this looming threat to the lungs of the Earth, which is to be addressed by the third point of our program to stop the hurricanes, responsible positive intervention to aid destitute Latin American subsistence farmers, change their practices and actually heal the Amazon jungles, the lungs of the Earth, while ultimate disaster may still be averted. Subsistence farmers slash and burn their way, advancing into the old growth of the Amazon jungles, for new farm land as the lands they have already slashed and burned for farm land become useless and depleted. Now, as it turns out, the reason that the jungle doesn't simply re-grow over the abandoned farmland all on it's own, is because the small animals that eat the jungle fruit and then excrete the seeds, will not venture into the clearing. But, amazingly, by simply spreading the appropriate manure, fresh jungle can be restored on hither to scorched, depleted and bare soil, within a scant three years! If only the destitute Latin American subsistence farmers can be helped and enlisted to fertilize and restore the jungle over their own spent farm lands, they can rotate the soil, slash and burn the same areas instead and thereby slow their advance ever deeper into the old jungle growth, in order to heal rather than destroy the vital tropical rain forests, as a stipulation for vital assistance and education in better feeding themselves in the process. By an intensive program of these latter three points, we can actually stop these terrible hurricanes and end our suffering! Good people of Florida, shall we only talk about the weather and lament, or isn't it high time we did something about it? From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Sep 18 15:17:27 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sun Sep 18 15:17:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Tesla' s Earth resonance Message-ID: <013601c5bc9e$c0e53a70$d0c5bc41@mikey> "Abstract" "In this note we discuss the issue of low Q for the Schumann cavity and its effect on global power distribution. We deter- mined that the observed Q is attributable to shunt atmospheric conductivity, and as such is equivalent to the excitation loss of conventional power transformers. We conclude that low Q is not an issue of substance for global power distribution in Tesla's system." http://www.pupman.com/listarchives/1995/january/msg00002.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 15:28:12 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 18 15:29:11 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) LIST. Message-ID: <20050918222812.73111.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISION: ALTERNATIVE CLEANED UP VERSION:) 1. THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY AND FOOD DRUG ADMINISTRATION INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) HAVE WRONGED US ALL. 2. THE U.S ARMY CORPS OF ESOTERIC ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY SUPPRESSING, INTERNET CHILD PORN PROMOTING, TERRORIST ENGINEERS, AND THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) HAVE WRONGED US ALL. 3. THE FASCIST (FEDERAL) RESERVE, AND THE FASCIST (FEDERAL) TRADE KOMMISION; BANKING AND FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) HAVE WRONGED US ALL. 4. THE FASCIST BUREAU OF INTRUSION HAS WRONGED US ALL. 5. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE HAS WRONGED US ALL. 6. THE FASCIST COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS WRONGED MANY OF US. 7. THE BROADCAST MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) HAS WRONGED US ALL. 8. THE PETROCHEMIKAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) HAS WRONGED US ALL. 9. THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) HAS WRONGED US ALL. 10. THE MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES ARE HEAVILY TOXIC. 11. ELECTROMAGNETIC NEURAL POLLUTION IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. 12. INTERNET AND AIRWAVE IMMORALITY, ARE BOTH SUPPORTED EQUALLY, BY ALL OF THE ABOVE. 13. MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES, ARE BUILT BY DESIGN, TO BURN TO THE GROUND, WHEN SET ON FIRE. 14. THE ORWELLIAN ENERGY KONTROL MATRIX HAS WRONGED US ALL. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050918/e7bb55d7/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 18 15:31:47 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 18 15:32:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: (REVISED:) LIST. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050918223147.60695.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> I'VE HIGHLIGHTED MY REPLIES BELOW, WITH A * AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH REPLY: 1. THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY AND FOOD DRUG ADMINISTRATION INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) HAVE WRONGED US ALL. Someone is killing key Genomics researchers to prevent us from having longevity; someone is trying to regulate (suppress) key vitamins and supplements (BHT, mercury). *I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SUPPRESSION OF GENOMICS SCIENCE. I'VE READ THAT GLOBALISM WANTS TO PUT VITAMINS UNDER STRICT FASCIST KONTROL, AND DRIVE THE PRICES OF ALL VITAMINS AND WHOLISTIC(WHOLISM) ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THE ROOF. 4. THE FASCIST BUREAU OF INTRUSION HAS WRONGED US ALL. This intrusion is a crime, but the Covert Teams consider themselves to be above the law. 5. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE HAS WRONGED US ALL. The 16th Amendment was never ratified, the IRS operates on the basis of "voluntary compliance" and anyone who withholds tax from your paycheck is stealing your money. *IF THERE WERE NO MONEY STOLEN FROM OUR PAYCHECKS, I WONDER IF PEOPLE COULD AFFORD PERSONAL HEALTHCARE ANY BETTER? HEALTHCARE NEEDS DRASTIC REFORM. WE NEED MASS SCALE, WHOLISTIC HEALTHCARE, ON A COOPERATIVE UNIFIED EFFORT. 6. THE FASCIST COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS WRONGED MANY OF US. Now they have a new rule which will eliminate CB radios and give the spectrum to Big Business. *I HAD HEARD THAT B.P.L. (BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES) CAUSES HARMFUL INTERFERENCE TO CITIZEN'S BAND RADIO, AND TO THE H.F. SPECTRUM. I READ ALSO, THAT THE UNITED PARCEL SERVICE WAS, AND / OR STILL IS, ATTEMPTING TO ACQUIRE SPECTRUM SPACE, IN SPECTRUM, ALLOCATED TO AMATEURS. 7. THE BROADCAST MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) HAS WRONGED US ALL. News programs are deliberately formatted to keep us uninformed; entertainment programs are designed to Dumb-Down society. *ENTERTAINMENT SUBLIMINAL BRAINWAVE ENTRAIN-MENT POSSIBLY??? I SEE MY MOTHER A LOT OF THE TIME, EN-TRANCED BY THE TELEVISION, AS THOUGH SHE IS BEING SUBLIMINALLY HYPNOTIZED BY IT, OR SOMETHING; WITH ALL OF THE FASCIST, THE COMMUNIST, AND THE FASCIST COMMUNIST, AND COMMUNIST FASCIST PROPAGANDA CRAP THAT THE MEDIA KOMMUNISMPLEX ENDLESSLY DISHES OUT. I'M ALSO SO SICK OF COMMERCIALISM TOO. 8. THE PETROCHEMIKAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) HAS WRONGED US ALL. Gasoline contains eight factions, two of which are explosive when ignited under pressure with a spark. The other six factions burn slowly as the piston goes down. The oil companies are making us buy fuel which doesn't produce horsepower in the type of engine we use. *YEAH; I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED NOW, FOR THE INFERNAL (FUCKUPTION) "COMBUSTION" ENGINE. TOO BAD TURBINE POWERED ELECTRIC CARS ARE BEING SUPPRESSED. IF SOMETHING IN THE INTRA-FUCKTURE DOES NOT GIVE, IT WILL LEAD THIS COUNTRY INTO CIVIL WAR, OVER THE DWINDLING REMAINING RESOURCES, AS WELL AS GLOBALISM NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS, AND 'MAN ENGINEERED' NUCLEAR NATURAL DISASTERS; (EXAMPLE: NUCLEAR TSUNAMI'S), AND POPULATION KONTROL DISEASES, ETC, WILL ENSUE UPON ALL OF US EQUALLY, WITHOUT ANY WAYS AND MEANS FOR FUTURE SURVIVAL, FOR ANY OF US; NO FUTURE AND NO HOPE.... I WANT A BETTER FUTURE THAN THAT! WE ALL NEED TO DRILL GARGANTUAN SIZED HOLES IN THE FINANCIAL INTRA-FUCKTURE, AND DE-BLOAT ITS ENDLESS MONEY POWER HUNGRY GREED - THAT, AND, ALL OF THE DAMNED WORTHLESS GREEDY, ABSOLUTE POWER HUNGRY / ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTED POLITICIANS ARE THE REASONS BEHIND, WHY WE ARE ALL HAVING TO SUFFER SO DAMNED BAD; THIS CERTAINLY ISN'T THE FULL PICTURE, BUT IT IS, A VERY LARGE PART OF IT. 10. THE MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES ARE HEAVILY TOXIC. The Fascists in WWII used flouride as a mind-numbing agent. *SEEMS LIKE I READ ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, BUT WAS TOO PREOCCUPIED AT THAT TIME, TO TAKE NOTE OF IT. 11. ELECTROMAGNETIC NEURAL POLLUTION IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. This pollution is deliberate; the government has become abusive - in concert with the Fascist Vatican. *INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE! ; I CAN'T SEE ANY LINK TO THE VATICAN THOUGH; UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE NEGATIVE ELECTRONEUROLOGICAL STIMULATION OF HYPERACTIVE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN, AND WHO ARE BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED; THOSE CHILDREN WHO ARE FORCEFED RIDALIN, FOR THE STIMULATION OF SOCIAL AND ANTI SOCIAL ANXIETY, FOR SEXUAL KONTROL REASONS. SOMETHING LEADING UP TO THE ANTI-CHRIST, AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND DISORDER??? 12. INTERNET AND AIRWAVE IMMORALITY, ARE BOTH SUPPORTED EQUALLY, BY ALL OF THE ABOVE. The occult pentagram illustrates the course of all nations. Political power descends from God at the top to become a nation at the lower right point. The nation moves up to the left hand point, developing financial power. The nation moves over to the right, achieving political/military power in the world. The nation moves down to the lower left hand point, sinking into moral decay and degradation. The Impetus returns to God at the top point, and the nation becomes a has been. This course happens every time, no matter what the Pentagon intends to perpetuate. INTERESTING! 13. MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES, ARE BUILT BY DESIGN, TO BURN TO THE GROUND, WHEN SET ON FIRE. These homes are preferred by the Dominators, since they are transparent to the "Holy" See. *RADAR SATELITES PERHAPS; AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; AND CALEA TELEPHONE TAPS??? THE ALL SEEING EYE OF LUCIFER ATOP THE PYRAMID SYMBOL, AS PART OF THE AMERICAN ONE DOLLAR BILL / THE LUCIFER'S (LUCIS SO-CALLED) TRUST / THE UNITED (DIVIDED) NATIONS, ETC.? 14. THE ORWELLIAN ENERGY KONTROL MATRIX HAS WRONGED US ALL. Free energy would be worse; criminals don't need better hand guns. *FREE ENERGY AND DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL GO HAND IN HAND. WE NEED BOTH, WITH EQUALITY, AT WORLD WAR TWO, WARTIME, WAR MACHINE SPEED, AS WELL AS ALTERNATIVE HEALTH TECHNOLOGIES, ON A GRAND COOPERATIVE NATIONAL MASS UNIFIED PRODUCTION SCALE EFFORT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE, EQUALLY. ONE OF THOSE TECHNOLOGIES IS A TESLA ELECTROMECHANICAL RESONANCE THERAPY TECHNOLOGY, CALLED: THE CHIROPRATOR'S INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE. INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY, INFORMATION WEBLINK: http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 CLYDE LOFTON __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050918/1cd3fc66/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 18 20:57:07 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 18 20:57:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Can this be true ????? In-Reply-To: from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Sep 18, 2005 03:46:59 PM Message-ID: <20050919035707.94472.qmail@mall-net.com> >> Far more, I prefer that the conditions allowing this not happen. >> As would most involved. That is why I do favor someone have the >> authority to over-ride a governor like Blanco in times of emergency. > > Two ways to look at things, yours makes sense, yet do you really believe > there are no people in power who do not think as the people of yesteryear that > you mention. (Shrug) When the conditions of yesteryear come, people will think that way again. It worked. And it was really simple thinking, simple enough for a Washington burro-c-rat to understand. > Don't forget we had our own concentration camps on the west coast during ww2 > for American citizens that were non-white. We were at war with the axes, > Japan, Germany and Italy. Do you know of any peoples who were of German or > Italian background that were placed in camps here in the U.S. Thousands of these I hear some were, and there were quite harsh curfews for those of German and Italian backgrounds. > people were loyal to their country and cause, but they were allowed freedom > while 8 generation American people were jailed for no reason. The "yellow race" was quite distinctive; thus there was quite a bit of dissonance between whites and yellows, prompting some anticipation of defections, covert operations, etc. Had Africa declared war on America in those days, I am sure there would not have been a day between the declaration, and the planning to round up all blacks. The blacks lucked out; it was the yellows that declared war. And more, attacked before declaring war! That too, triggered harsh consequences! Whether the detention camps were reasonable or not, is not clear to me as I was not there, did not have the intelligence (or lack there of), etc. to formulate an appropriate answer. Personally, I don't like the detention camp idea. I think it highly unfair to lump everyone together as potential traitors. Some of the Japanese did enlist and fought valiantly in Europe. I am sure there were others who were traitors, or would have become traitors. Consider also, that many had relatives in Japan. If they had been free, threats of harm to the Japan-resident relatives could have forced some into assisting Japan by spying and sabotage. War is inherently messy. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 18 21:26:35 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 18 21:26:39 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: (REVISED:) LIST. In-Reply-To: <20050918223147.60695.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 18, 2005 03:31:47 PM Message-ID: <20050919042635.16219.qmail@mall-net.com> > 1. THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY AND FOOD DRUG > ADMINISTRATION INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) > HAVE WRONGED US ALL. > Someone is killing key Genomics researchers to prevent us from having longevity; > someone is trying to regulate (suppress) key vitamins and supplements (BHT, mercury). > > *I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SUPPRESSION OF GENOMICS SCIENCE. (Laughing!) What do you think the scientists are up to? They are working on all kinds of genetic engineering projects. That's hardly suppression! > I'VE READ THAT GLOBALISM WANTS TO PUT VITAMINS UNDER STRICT > FASCIST KONTROL, AND DRIVE THE PRICES OF ALL VITAMINS AND WHOLISTIC(WHOLISM) ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THE ROOF. It is not globalism; it is the pharmaceutical companies greasing politicians palms. > 4. THE FASCIST BUREAU OF INTRUSION HAS WRONGED US ALL. > This intrusion is a crime, but the Covert Teams consider themselves to be above the law. Nothing is above the law. It is that the laws have changed abit for now. They will be repealed as the war winds down. > 5. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE HAS WRONGED US ALL. > The 16th Amendment was never ratified, the IRS operates on the basis of "voluntary compliance" and anyone who withholds tax from your paycheck is stealing your money. Quite a bit of case law to the contrary, I am afraid. > *IF THERE WERE NO MONEY STOLEN FROM OUR PAYCHECKS, I WONDER IF > PEOPLE COULD AFFORD PERSONAL HEALTHCARE ANY BETTER? > HEALTHCARE NEEDS DRASTIC REFORM. > WE NEED MASS SCALE, WHOLISTIC HEALTHCARE, ON A COOPERATIVE UNIFIED > EFFORT. If there was no tax, the government would not be able to provide you with roads, police protection, military protection, etc. The old ussr would have just walked in and taken over. After they kicked Mexico out. Might be a bit of a fight with Cuba about Florida. > *ENTERTAINMENT SUBLIMINAL BRAINWAVE ENTRAIN-MENT POSSIBLY??? Against the rules. It's been tried. Instead, they sell product placement in the picture. > I SEE MY MOTHER A LOT OF THE TIME, EN-TRANCED BY THE TELEVISION, > AS THOUGH SHE IS BEING SUBLIMINALLY HYPNOTIZED BY IT, OR SOMETHING; > WITH ALL OF THE FASCIST, THE COMMUNIST, AND THE FASCIST COMMUNIST, > AND COMMUNIST FASCIST PROPAGANDA CRAP THAT THE MEDIA > KOMMUNISMPLEX ENDLESSLY DISHES OUT. > I'M ALSO SO SICK OF COMMERCIALISM TOO. Some people do zone out on TV. Commercialism? What's the alternative, buying industrial goods? Or being a farmer? I'll take the commercialism over farming any day! > 8. THE PETROCHEMIKAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) > HAS WRONGED US ALL. > Gasoline contains eight factions, two of which are explosive when ignited under > pressure with a spark. The other six factions burn slowly as the piston goes down. > The oil companies are making us buy fuel which doesn't produce horsepower in the > type of engine we use. I'm not so sure. If they did that; then any company which went counter to them, would make a killing! True Horsepower gasoline! > *YEAH; I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED NOW, FOR THE INFERNAL (FUCKUPTION) > "COMBUSTION" ENGINE. > TOO BAD TURBINE POWERED ELECTRIC CARS ARE BEING SUPPRESSED. The turbine is not an efficient means of generation. As for electric cars being suppressed; there is not enough demand for them. The government has to offer all kinds of incentives to convince people to buy electric cars. I mean, do YOU want a car that can only go 20 miles??? Not till they started making hybrids, did the consumer want electric cars. > IF SOMETHING IN THE INTRA-FUCKTURE DOES NOT GIVE, IT WILL LEAD THIS > COUNTRY INTO CIVIL WAR, OVER THE DWINDLING REMAINING RESOURCES, Resources are not dwindling that badly. As for civil war... it's been tried before. It is only attractive when there are resources which one side wants and the other side has. The Civil War was about slavery. The South wanted that free (well, low pay, you did have to feed and house them) labor. The North thought it was immoral. The arbuments resulted in an attempt to separate. > AS WELL AS GLOBALISM NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS, AND 'MAN ENGINEERED' > NUCLEAR NATURAL DISASTERS; (EXAMPLE: NUCLEAR TSUNAMI'S), AND > POPULATION KONTROL DISEASES, ETC, WILL ENSUE UPON ALL OF US > EQUALLY, WITHOUT ANY WAYS AND MEANS FOR FUTURE SURVIVAL, FOR > ANY OF US; NO FUTURE AND NO HOPE.... I really don't think there are any idiots trying to create such disasters. Well... Maybe old salami been loaded; but I don't think he is capable of pulling that off. > I WANT A BETTER FUTURE THAN THAT! So work on it. Advocate it. Write good articles presenting research on how to do it. > WE ALL NEED TO DRILL GARGANTUAN SIZED HOLES IN THE FINANCIAL > INTRA-FUCKTURE, AND DE-BLOAT ITS ENDLESS MONEY POWER HUNGRY > GREED - THAT, AND, ALL OF THE DAMNED WORTHLESS GREEDY, ABSOLUTE > POWER HUNGRY / ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTED POLITICIANS ARE THE > REASONS BEHIND, WHY WE ARE ALL HAVING TO SUFFER SO DAMNED BAD; > THIS CERTAINLY ISN'T THE FULL PICTURE, BUT IT IS, A VERY LARGE PART OF > IT. If you drain the banks... how are people going to buy homes? That's the deal, you know. Banks take in money and loan it back out. > 10. THE MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES ARE HEAVILY TOXIC. > The Fascists in WWII used flouride as a mind-numbing agent. Flourides are put in because there was some research suggesting stronger teeth. Now, the research is suspect and some municipalities are abandoing that approach. > 11. ELECTROMAGNETIC NEURAL POLLUTION IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. > This pollution is deliberate; the government has become abusive - in concert with the Fascist Vatican. ??? First off, just what the heck is electromagnetic neural pollution??? > *INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE! ; > I CAN'T SEE ANY LINK TO THE VATICAN THOUGH; UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH > THE NEGATIVE ELECTRONEUROLOGICAL STIMULATION OF HYPERACTIVE > CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN, AND WHO ARE BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED; THOSE > CHILDREN WHO ARE FORCEFED RIDALIN, FOR THE STIMULATION OF SOCIAL > AND ANTI SOCIAL ANXIETY, FOR SEXUAL KONTROL REASONS. > SOMETHING LEADING UP TO THE ANTI-CHRIST, AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER > AND DISORDER??? Non sequitor. The Vatican has not much control over anything! I mean, look at the sexual proclivity of our youth. Vatican? Control? Ha ha ha! > > 12. INTERNET AND AIRWAVE IMMORALITY, ARE BOTH SUPPORTED > EQUALLY, BY ALL OF THE ABOVE. > The occult pentagram illustrates the course of all nations. Political power descends > from God at the top to become a nation at the lower right point. The nation moves up Some of my friends are Wiccan, and I've particitpated in some pagan forums in the past. This stuff is just total whacko garbage. > 13. MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES > AND BUSINESSES, ARE BUILT BY DESIGN, TO BURN TO THE GROUND, > WHEN SET ON FIRE. > These homes are preferred by the Dominators, since they are transparent to the > "Holy" See. Froot Loops! Froot Loops! Froot Loops! > *FREE ENERGY AND DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL GO HAND IN HAND. No relationship what so ever! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 19 12:35:05 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 19 12:35:20 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The propagation of racism Message-ID: <01ae01c5bd51$3cdd8bc0$d0c5bc41@mikey> I fail to understand why otherwise intelligent individuals continue to propagate the myth of racism. The problems in our society today are NOT Black vs. White vs. Red vs. Yellow vs. Pink with Purple Polkadots! The problem is Individual vs. Big Brother! Big Brother foments racial prejudice, divisiveness, and hatred to further the subjugation of all individual liberties. Those who argue that White Crackers withheld aid and assistance from New Orleans to exterminate N!^#@*$ (Whereas the N-word is just cause for a physical assault, it is perfectly OK to use the term "White Cracker."), simply facilitate their own subjugation! I suspect that the truth is closer to a conspiracy to remove the non-productive Welfare State from the Big Easy- The welfare recipients can collect their largess anywhere, but the productive workers, with roots in New Orleans, will return- the nonproductive will be happy to be idle anywhere, and likely never return. Allow Nature to disperse those who will not work to the four winds, and then all of New Orleans will return to profitability. Thirty three states on the Mississippi River System rely upon the Port of New Orleans for their economic well-being. And that port has reopened ALREADY- without the Welfare State or Government assistance. The economic issue here is unarguable. And all the wailing of the MSM (mainstream media) and the Liberal Activists simply divert attention, all fifteen seconds of it, from the Truth! And Big Brother wins again! Get real, people! The average person on the street, regardless of complexion, is usually a pretty good egg. Remember The Dream- "Judge by content of character, not color of skin." And WHO has less content in their character than our current crop of politicians? Democrap or Refucklian, it makes little difference- ALL those characters have little or no content! IMHO. -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 19 13:38:46 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 19 13:38:52 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The propagation of racism In-Reply-To: <01ae01c5bd51$3cdd8bc0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 19, 2005 03:35:05 PM Message-ID: <20050919203846.78241.qmail@mall-net.com> > Get real, people! The average person on the street, regardless of > complexion, is usually a pretty good egg. Remember The Dream- "Judge by > content of character, not color of skin." And WHO has less content in = > their > character than our current crop of politicians? Democrap or Refucklian, = > it > makes little difference- ALL those characters have little or no content! How dare you insult my replumbican brothers who are plumbing the depths of the human sole and pumping the big basin dry! It doesn't matter which demo crapped in the place, we replumbicans are fixing the leaks, pumping it dry, and making this nation united under indoor plumbing! The guys who build this thing on my new rental spot must have been democraps! http://www.mall-net.com/tower/ That's where I'm supposed to be moving this week... last week... last month... -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Sep 19 14:06:23 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Mon Sep 19 14:06:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The propagation of racism Message-ID: <110.524fc7d9.3060824f@aol.com> In a message dated 9/19/2005 3:35:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mbest@triad.rr.com writes: Get real, people! The average person on the street, regardless of complexion, is usually a pretty good egg. Remember The Dream- "Judge by content of character, not color of skin." And WHO has less content in their character than our current crop of politicians? Democrap or Refucklian, it makes little difference- ALL those characters have little or no content! Bravo, well said. One thing, what in Heck is a "White Cracker" I know Honkey began in New Orleans in the Pleasure Houses. I have heard the word Cracker used before but have no idea where it comes from. By the way, I asked an in-law from Haverhill Mass. if they found the words Gienny or Whop was ever used against them as kids or adults as they are half Italian. We in New Hampshire call A Sub- Sandwich a Gienny--Whoper. What a surprise I got, coming from a gang infested city of all races, no one in the family had even heard the words before. However they don't hesitate to call me a Frog from my French Canadian part of the family. Perhaps their ignorance came from the fact most of the family are Irish. In those parts of Mass. the only thing you call an Irish Man is Sir since you most likely are talking to a cop or fireman or Kennedy. Regards Vesta Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050919/f5bb1383/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 19 14:21:20 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 19 14:21:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog In-Reply-To: <110.524fc7d9.3060824f@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Sep 19, 2005 05:06:23 PM Message-ID: <20050919212120.2283.qmail@mall-net.com> Monument to someone's creative lunacy, and on the next page, fog over the Coyote Valley http://www.mall-net.com/tower/ -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 19 16:41:53 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 19 16:42:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetic nanophase diamond Message-ID: <01d901c5bd73$b7c13b30$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://snipurl.com/hsx6 From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 19 19:17:42 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 19 19:17:53 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I think this is either vaporware or old-fashioned snake oil! Message-ID: <01fa01c5bd89$7bb2ece0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Can this man save the world? Everyone wants to cut car emissions. Sooner or later, someone will find a way to do it. Joe Williams hopes it's him. WILLIAM MARSDEN The Gazette Peter Romaniuk of Innovative Hydrogen Solutions looks over his company's machine, which the company claims eliminates almost all emissions from gasoline-powered vehicles. The company says it is developing a version of the machine that will be one-eighth the size of the current prototype and that should be ready by next year. Joe Williams Sr. believes he has the machine that will help save the world. It will make the sky blue, allow everyone to breathe easier, and, in a time of skyrocketing fuel prices, save us all money. http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=cfeb17de-d 945-4db4-87a6-090911200e96 or: http://snipurl.com/hrjf From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 02:49:23 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 20 02:49:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Reminder web addresses; Part seven. In-Reply-To: <20050905005620.51832.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050920094923.98817.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Reminder web addresses; Part seven: 1. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net 2. http://www.dieoff.org 3. http://www.newenergymovement.org/ 4. http://www.newenergymovement.org/newenergyp1.aspx 5. http://www.tshirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/chen.html?Category_Code=newr 6. http://mmae.iit.edu/atesr_lab/PowerMEMS.html 7. http://www.ttivanguard.com/montrealreconn/powerMEMS.pdf 8. http://microfluids.engin.brown.edu/Breuer_Papers/Conferences/AIAA97-1773_Microengine.pdf#search='MICRO%20TURBINE%20POWER%20MEMS' 9. http://www.stormingmedia.us/44/4465/A446583.html 10. http://smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian/issues02/jul02/phenomena.html 11. http://robots.net/article/1319.html 12. http://me.mit.edu/NewsandCalendar/Data/0503111430Sesptein.htm 13. http://www.geocities.com/dfradella/homepage.htm 14. http://rpm2.8k.com/basics.htm 15. http://rpm2.8k.com/compare.htm 16. http://www.newswise.com/articles/view?id=FLYBATT.IEE 17. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/seta/2002/05/16/stories/2002051600130200.htm 18. http://energy.sourceguides.com/businesses/byP/batP/batt/btora/bType/fly/fly.shtml 19. http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT/2003/7000/7725Konno.html 20. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/fly.html 21. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/apr02/flysb1.html 22. http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/general_info/flywheel.html 23. http://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArticle.asp?strArticleID=56579&strSite=MDSite&Screen=CURRENTISSUE 24. http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6473980 25. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/pressrelease/0402/0402fly.pdf#search='flywheel20batteries' 26. http://regen.0catch.com/facts.htm 27. http://www.aspes.ch/faq.html 28. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/battery-01a.html 29. http://www.upei.ca/~physics/p261/projects/flywheel1/flywheel1.htm 30. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_flywheel_technology_helps/ 31. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_cure_battery_blues/ 32. http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=04-015 33. http://ufonasa.terra-ent.com/ 34. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/images/The-Ultimate-Hutchison.pdf 35. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/lev.html 36. http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~ajm8/pedestal.html 37. http://www.novadevelopment.com/ 38. http://www.gh.wits.ac.za/ 39. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446533173/002-6431563-9689615 40. http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/6/emw248814.htm 41. http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~maloney/hurricanes/hurr.web.pdf#search='modulation%20anomalies' 42. http://www.oragenics.com/ 43. http://www.tomsofmaine.com 44. http://www.jason-natural.com 45. http://www.WholeGrainsCouncil.org 46. http://www.scientificsonline.com/default.asp 47. http://www.sciencefirst.com/ 48. http://harmonicresolution.com/Toroidal%20Space.htm 49. http://astro.uwaterloo.ca/~observe/misc/nasa.keywords.html 50. http://www.zpenergy.com/ 51. http://www.americanantigravity.com/godinroschin.html 52. http://www.esotericscience.com/FreeEnergy.aspx 53. http://www.rexresearch.com/ 54. http://amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html 55. http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=dual 56. http://www.exair.com 57. http://www.coleparmer.com/requests/default.asp?referred_id=1512 58. http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html 59. http://www.stevequayle.com/ 60. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index819.htm 61. http://www.temcor.com/ 62. http://www.flashtechnology.com/ 63. http://www.precisiontimer.com 64. http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 65. http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm 66. http://www.sitepsych.com/alt/bioergo/bwaves.html 67. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera 68. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Life 69. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel 70. http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/Hijacking_Catastrophe 71. http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org 72. http://www.dapslyrics.com/display.php?sid=7217 73. http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2005-February/000123.html 74. http://www.lyricsdemon.com/lyrics.php?songid=70232 75. http://www.airlyrics.com/lyrics/Kraftwerk-lyrics/Expo-2000-lyrics.html 76. http://www.electricaltrainingusa.com/basic_motor_controls.html 77. http://www.online-tech-training.com/ecm 78. http://www.redlion.net 79. http://www.leaderusa.com 80. http://www.us.anritsu.com/ 81. http://www.anritsu.com/ 82. http://www.eu.anritsu.com/ 83. http://www.eu.anritsu.com/services/philanthropy.php 84. http://usa.hamamatsu.com/ 85. http://www.hamamatsu.com/ 86. http://www.surpluscenter.com 87. http://www.tfcbooks.com/ 88. http://www.teslatech.info 89. http://www.johnstonesupply.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050920/f3678250/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 08:33:16 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 20 08:33:29 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog In-Reply-To: <20050919212120.2283.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050920153316.68913.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> THOSE ARE GOOD PHOTO'S! I HAVE ONLY NOW BEEN ABLE TO LOOK BACK THROUGH THIS POSTING, AND THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER POSTINGS, THIS MORNING. I'VE BEEN SO BUSY AT WORK, AND HAVE BEEN SO TIRED, THAT I HAVEN'T HAD THE ENERGY TO REPLY BACK MUCH, THIS WEEKEND. THOSE PHOTO'S MAKE ME WONDER IF CALIFORNIA HAS BAD TICK PROBLEMS OUT THERE IN THE COUNTRY DURING THE SUMMERTIME. OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH FOR TICKS, DURING THE SUMMERTIME. I BARELY GOT ANY SLEEP LAST NIGHT; STAYED UP TILL AROUND 5:00 THIS MORNING, AND I AM HAVING BREATHING TROUBLES; MY CHEST IS TIGHT; LUNGS AND HEART HURT, AND I HAVE HYPERTENSION OVERKILL. GOOD NEWS IS THAT I GET TO GO THE CHIROPRACTOR THIS AFTERNOON, BUT THE TIME OF THE DOCTOR VISIT DOESN'T LAST FOR VERY LONG; IT ISN'T PERMANENT; AND MONEY; OR SHOULD I SAY: ANTIMONEY MATTERS GIVE ME SO MUCH STRESS, THAT IT MAY JUST BE THE EARLY DEATH OF MY LIFE, IF I CANNOT FIND A PEACEFUL, PERMANENT BIOPHYSICAL REMEDY, INSTEAD OF ALL OF THE ENDLESS GODDAMNED BIOCHEMICAL SHIT, THAT HAS GIVEN ME LIVER AND LUNG DAMAGE, THAT I AM PRETTY WELL CERTAIN IS PART OF MY PROBLEMS. SINCE MONEY MATTERS MAKE LIFE FULL OF ENDLESS TROUBLE AND HELL, I CANNOT AFFORD HAVING TESTING DONE THAT I SO DESPERATELY NEED. SINCE MY LUNG CAPACITIES ARE NOT FUNCTIONING AT THEIR FULLEST POTENTIAL, I AM HAVING TO ASSUME THAT I HAVE BOTH HIGH LEVELS OF CARBON DIOXIDE IN MY LUNGS, AND HIGH CARBON MONOXIDE LEVELS IN MY LUNGS; OR PERHAPS JUST MORE CARBON DIOXIDE, THAN CARBON MONOXIDE. DRUG ADDICTION TO CLONAZEPAM IS ONCE AGAIN, AND I HAVE COME TO HATE THAT FUCKING DRUG, JUST LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER GODDAMNED CHEMISTRY CHEMICALS SHIT. WITH ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE; CLYDE Monument to someone's creative lunacy, and on the next page, fog over the Coyote Valley http://www.mall-net.com/tower/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050920/5fe5e880/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 09:13:50 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 20 09:14:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, AND.... Message-ID: <20050920161350.77684.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, AND I AM NEARLY INSANE BECAUSE OF THE ENDLESS CHEMICAL CRAP OF CONVENTION DOCTORALISM. I NEED HELP IN FINDING A LOCAL ORTHOMOLECULAR DOCTOR, IF ONE EXISTS, IN THIS WATELAND, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. SICK OF ALLOPATHOLOGY. I AM READY TO START EXPLORING HOMEOPATHOLOGY DOCTORALISM HEALTHCARE. PROBLEM REMAINING: FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE, AND FINANCIAL SLAVERY (ENSLAVEMENT). LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS MUST BE A BYGONE DREAM FOR MOST PEOPLE. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050920/8985dc27/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 20 09:27:40 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 20 09:27:57 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] NYT shoots self in foot Message-ID: <022a01c5be00$39fe4610$d0c5bc41@mikey> Effective yesterday, the NYT has converted their editorial content to paid subscription! I can still get the news for free, but in order to read the neo-lib crap they spout, I must pay!!! PLEASE, Masser, don't throw me in no brier patch!! Now this has GOT to be the biggest denial of reality I've yet seen. Only the minority of neolibs will pay, just to hear what they already believe! The majority cares not for their crap, and will never pay to read it! I read it for an opposing viewpoint, but will never pay to do so. So the end result is that the NYT editorial staff now preaches to their choir; and those they desire to convert never hear their message! What utter Liberal stupidity! Why even bother to challenge the neo-libs? They are doing a fine job of committing suicide, all by themselves! -MB From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 20 10:21:55 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 20 10:22:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Etymology of "WOP" Message-ID: <026501c5be07$cd174530$d0c5bc41@mikey> The term "wop," often a derogatory slur against those of Italian descent, came into the language from Ellis Island. In the early 20th century, many poor Italian immigrants to the USA that were processed through Ellis Island arrived without proper documentation. Their applications were stamped "WOP," or "Without Papers." Immigration clerks would say, "They're WOP," referring to the lack of documentation. Hence the term "wop," referring to their immigration status. See how connotation deviates from the denotation over the years? -MB From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 11:24:28 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Tue Sep 20 11:24:42 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] NYT shoots self in foot In-Reply-To: <022a01c5be00$39fe4610$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050920182428.51902.qmail@web51911.mail.yahoo.com> Let me know when this group gets back to mad science, as opposed to the slow slide into neo-con rah-rah land. Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > Effective yesterday, the NYT has converted their > editorial content to paid > subscription! > > I can still get the news for free, but in order to > read the neo-lib crap > they spout, I must pay!!! > > PLEASE, Masser, don't throw me in no brier patch!! > > Now this has GOT to be the biggest denial of reality > I've yet seen. Only > the minority of neolibs will pay, just to hear what > they already believe! > The majority cares not for their crap, and will > never pay to read it! I > read it for an opposing viewpoint, but will never > pay to do so. > > So the end result is that the NYT editorial staff > now preaches to their > choir; and those they desire to convert never hear > their message! > > What utter Liberal stupidity! > > Why even bother to challenge the neo-libs? They are > doing a fine job of > committing suicide, all by themselves! > > -MB > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 20 12:40:18 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 20 12:40:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, In-Reply-To: <20050920161350.77684.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 20, 2005 09:13:50 AM Message-ID: <20050920194018.76440.qmail@mall-net.com> > I AM READY TO START EXPLORING HOMEOPATHOLOGY > DOCTORALISM HEALTHCARE. > PROBLEM REMAINING: FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE, AND > FINANCIAL SLAVERY (ENSLAVEMENT). > LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS MUST > BE A BYGONE DREAM FOR MOST PEOPLE. Look through http://www.acam.org for a list of doctors in your area. (Ah... acam.com is a webcam chat service... so be sure you say .org or you may be aghast at the zm.) You will, of course, have to evaluate them yourself to see if they meet your needs. As with regular physicians, getting the wrong specialist, etc. does not help. The book Medical Mavericks, volume three, does have some interesting things to say about schizophrenia and other "mental" illnesses (which are more often physiological illnesses affecting the hardware of the brain), detailing some of the nutritionally based therapies which have often been successful. Whether these will aid you is not known. It is suggested you make sure your physician is an orthomolecular specialist, as ACAM lists quite a few specialties ranging from accupucture to who knows what. There are, as I recall, some fairly good orthomolecular doctors in and around your state. You just have to see them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 20 13:57:28 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 20 13:57:53 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog In-Reply-To: <20050920153316.68913.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 20, 2005 08:33:16 AM Message-ID: <20050920205728.32236.qmail@mall-net.com> > THOSE ARE GOOD PHOTO'S! Thankyou. It's interesting that only three people went beyond the first page to see the artistic photos of fog in the valley below. htttp://www.mall-net.com/tower/fog.html > THOSE PHOTO'S MAKE ME WONDER > IF CALIFORNIA HAS BAD TICK > PROBLEMS OUT THERE IN THE > COUNTRY DURING THE SUMMERTIME. Sure. > OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH FOR > TICKS, DURING THE SUMMERTIME. Anyone ever test you for Lyme disease? Lyme can cause brain malfuntions. > I BARELY GOT ANY SLEEP LAST > NIGHT; STAYED UP TILL AROUND > 5:00 THIS MORNING, AND I AM > HAVING BREATHING TROUBLES; > MY CHEST IS TIGHT; LUNGS AND HEART > HURT, AND I HAVE HYPERTENSION > OVERKILL. I've always found that raising vitamin C consumption helps ease things like that. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html > GOOD NEWS IS THAT I GET TO GO > THE CHIROPRACTOR THIS AFTERNOON, > BUT THE TIME OF THE DOCTOR VISIT > DOESN'T LAST FOR VERY LONG; IT ISN'T > PERMANENT; AND MONEY; OR SHOULD If the connective tissue isn't strong enough, things fall apart. One of the things vitamin C does, is help build connective tissue. 50 milecules of vitamin C are used to create on molecule of collagen, and more are use to repair damage from stress. > I SAY: ANTIMONEY MATTERS GIVE ME > SO MUCH STRESS, THAT IT MAY JUST > BE THE EARLY DEATH OF MY LIFE, IF I > CANNOT FIND A PEACEFUL, PERMANENT > BIOPHYSICAL REMEDY, INSTEAD OF Again, there is no such thing as anti-money. There are only things which are more useful than money. An d we are tempted to convert money into those things. > WITH ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE; I was way more than that in the grave when I was sick. My orthomolecular doctor pulled me out, patched me up, and had me working again for nearly 20 years. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 17:20:18 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 20 17:21:18 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, In-Reply-To: <20050920194018.76440.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050921002019.9637.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I AM READY TO START EXPLORING HOMEOPATHOLOGY > DOCTORALISM HEALTHCARE. > PROBLEM REMAINING: FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE, AND > FINANCIAL SLAVERY (ENSLAVEMENT). > LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS MUST > BE A BYGONE DREAM FOR MOST PEOPLE. Look through http://www.acam.org for a list of doctors in your area. OK. I'LL CHECK INTO IT. (Ah... acam.com is a webcam chat service... so be sure you say .org or you may be aghast at the zm.) You will, of course, have to evaluate them yourself to see if they meet your needs. As with regular physicians, getting the wrong specialist, etc. does not help. The book Medical Mavericks, volume three, does have some interesting things to say about schizophrenia and other "mental" "MENTAL" IS RIGHT. ENVIRON-MENTALLY ILL, OR SCREWED UP, IS THE BEST DESCRIPTION. I SAW SEVERAL COPIES OF THE PHYSICIANS DESK REFERENCE BOOK THE OTHER DAY, AT TWO BOOK STORES, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN. THE NEXT TIME THAT I GO BACK, I'LL LOOK INTO SEEING HOW MUCH THEY ARE SELLING THE BOOKS FOR. I NEED TO FIND OUT AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT KLONOPIN / CLONAZEPAM. IT HAS BEEN THE CLOSEST CHEMICAL THAT I HAVE EVER TAKEN, TO BEING A TRUE MEDICATION. BUT IT STILL ISN'T A MEDICATION TO ME; BECAUSE IT FAILS TO LAST. THE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY AT THE CHIROPRACTOR'S OFFICE, IS A TRUE MEDICATION TO ME; BIOPHYSICAL MEDICINE. ALL OF THE GODDAMNED ENDLESS SENSELESS DRUGS ARE NOT. illnesses (which are more often physiological illnesses affecting the hardware of the brain), PHYSIOL(OGICAL)-NEURAL(OGICAL). I NEED HIGH POWER VIBRATION THERAPY; THAT IS WHAT I NEED. detailing some of the nutritionally based therapies which have often been successful. Whether these will aid you is not known. It is suggested you make sure your physician is an orthomolecular specialist, OK. as ACAM lists quite a few specialties ranging from accupucture to who knows what. I NEED AN ENTIRE CYBERSUIT THAT ELECTRICALLY THERAPEUTICALLY EASES MY ENTIRE NEUROLOGY, BECAUSE I AM SICK + TIRED OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS CYCLES OF CHEMISTRY. There are, as I recall, some fairly good orthomolecular doctors in and around your state. You just have to see them. OK; WITH THE CHOCTAW INDIAN NATION; I THINK I REMEMBER THERE BEING ORTHOMOLECULAR DOCTORS AT THEIR TREATMENT FACILITIES; AND I HAVE AN INDIAN CARD, FOR THE CHOCTAW NATION. I ALSO GOT TO FINALLY TRY ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT A LITTLE WHILE EARLIER. I TESTED MY FREQUENCY COUNTER, BEFORE I CONNECTED THE HELMET, AND THE DAMNED COUNTER NO LONGER WORKS PROPERLY; DUE TO THE FUCKING HUMIDITY IN THE GARBAGE BUILDING IN THE BACKYARD OF THIS SLUMBURB RESIDENCE, AND THE HIGHER THAN NONSENSICAL HELL HUMIDITY HAS MORE THAN LIKELY RUINED THE COUNTER. THE HIGHER THAN HELL HEAT, COMBINED WITH THE HIGHER THAN HELL HUMIDITY, MORE THAN LIKELY RUINED MY FREQUENCY COUNTER, AND SO I HAD TO EYEBALL THE RANGE OF MY INITIAL TESTING. I INITIALLY SET THE TUNER TO JUST BELOW 10 HZ. ON THE ANALOG DISPLAY. AND GRADUALLY TUNED IT DOWN, A LITTLE AT A TIME, FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 MINUTES AT MOST, IN MY TIME OF TRIAL. I HAD A FRIEND WITH ME, AND HE WAS THE FIRST TO TRY THE ENTRAINMENT, AND WE BOTH WERE CAUTIOUS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN WE TESTED THE ENTRAINMENT. I'LL EXPLAIN MORE LATER ABOUT WHAT HE SAID HE FELT LIKE, BOTH DURING, AND AFTERWARDS, BUT I'M FEELING 'SOMEWHAT' SLEEPY RIGHT NOW; AND IT SEEMED TO INDUCE BITTERNESS INTO MY MENTAL FEELINGS AT THE SAME TIME, AFTER EXPERIMENTATION. http://www.precisiontimer.com AMERICAN CONTROL PRODUCTS, AT THE ABOVE WEBLINK, WHICH I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF WEBLINKS PART SEVEN - SENT LAST NIGHT, HAS A 60 MINUTE, MOTOR CONTROLLED TIMER, THAT WILL WORK PERFECT FOR THE ON OFF CONTROL TIME, FOR BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, IF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WILL BENEFIT ME MORE, IN THE FUTURE. I'LL WRITE MORE LATER. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050920/d748971d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 17:49:59 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 20 17:50:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog In-Reply-To: <20050920205728.32236.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050921005000.12292.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > THOSE ARE GOOD PHOTO'S! Thankyou. YOU'RE WELCOME. It's interesting that only three people went beyond the first page to see the artistic photos of fog in the valley below. DO YOU HAVE A COUNTER ON YOUR WEBPAGE, THAT INFORMS YOU AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE VISITED, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO THE DIFFERENT LINKS ON YOUR SITE? http://www.mall-net.com/tower/fog.html > THOSE PHOTO'S MAKE ME WONDER > IF CALIFORNIA HAS BAD TICK > PROBLEMS OUT THERE IN THE > COUNTRY DURING THE SUMMERTIME. Sure. I HATE TICKS WITH THE GODDAMNED HATRED OF HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF. I ALSO HATE WASPS, SPIDERS, SNAKES, SCORPIONS, MOSQUITOS, FLEAS, CHIGGERS, ANTS, ETC, WITH THE HATRED OF HELL. > OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH FOR > TICKS, DURING THE SUMMERTIME. Anyone ever test you for Lyme disease? Lyme can cause brain malfuntions. NO; NOT YET. I'D LIKE TO BE TESTED FOR THAT, AT THE PHYSICIANS OFFICE, IF MY INSURANCE COMPANY (HAND)CUFFED, PILL PUSHER SCUFFED, DOCTOR, WILL RUN THE TEST AT MY NEXT VISIT. > I BARELY GOT ANY SLEEP LAST > NIGHT; STAYED UP TILL AROUND > 5:00 THIS MORNING, AND I AM > HAVING BREATHING TROUBLES; > MY CHEST IS TIGHT; LUNGS AND HEART > HURT, AND I HAVE HYPERTENSION > OVERKILL. I've always found that raising vitamin C consumption helps ease things like that. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html I'VE GOT SOME VITAMIN C STILL, AND HAVEN'T TAKEN A TABLET OF IT IN A LONG WHILE; I THINK I'LL TAKE ONE OF EM' TONIGHT. > GOOD NEWS IS THAT I GET TO GO > THE CHIROPRACTOR THIS AFTERNOON, > BUT THE TIME OF THE DOCTOR VISIT > DOESN'T LAST FOR VERY LONG; IT ISN'T > PERMANENT; AND MONEY; OR SHOULD If the connective tissue isn't strong enough, things fall apart. One of the things vitamin C does, is to help build connective tissue. 50 molecules of vitamin C are used to create one molecule of collagen, and more are use to repair damage from stress. SOUNDS LIKE I NEED A MAJOR DOSEAGE OF C THEN; BECAUSE STRESS IS SO HIGH RIGHT NOW; USING THE TRACTION TABLE IS STILL BENEFICIAL, BUT IT ISN'T WORKING TO THE BEST THAT IT CAN, SINCE THE STRESS WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE COMPLETE RELAXATION; STILL TOO DAMNED MUCH HYPERTENSION, AND DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS NOW; ESPECIALLY IN MY CARDIOLOGY. I WORRY ABOUT AORTIC RUPTURE AT TIMES NOW, DUE TO EVEN THE SLIGHTEST ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS THAT EFFECT ME. > I SAY: ANTIMONEY MATTERS GIVE ME > SO MUCH STRESS, THAT IT MAY JUST > BE THE EARLY DEATH OF MY LIFE, IF I > CANNOT FIND A PEACEFUL, PERMANENT > BIOPHYSICAL REMEDY, INSTEAD OF Again, there is no such thing as anti-money. HOW ABOUT LACK-O-MONEY? SARCASTICALLY, WITH SOME HUMOR! There are only things which are more useful than money. And we are tempted to convert money into those things. > WITH ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE; I was way more than that in the grave when I was sick. My orthomolecular doctor pulled me out, patched me up, and had me working again for nearly 20 years. I NEED SOME MAJOR ALTERNATIVE HELP, NOW; RIGHT AWAY; BECAUSE THE SHYT-STEM HAS NEARLY FAILED ME, AND IF I KEEP GOING THE WAY THAT I AM, IT WILL ENTIRELY RUIN ME, AND I MIGHT AS WELL START PLANNING A GRAVE SITE FOR MYSELF. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050920/0ccbc111/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 20 17:54:20 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 20 17:54:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, In-Reply-To: <20050921002019.9637.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 20, 2005 05:20:18 PM Message-ID: <20050921005420.75605.qmail@mall-net.com> > I TESTED MY FREQUENCY COUNTER, BEFORE I CONNECTED THE HELMET, > AND THE DAMNED COUNTER NO LONGER WORKS PROPERLY; DUE TO THE > FUCKING HUMIDITY IN THE GARBAGE BUILDING IN THE BACKYARD OF THIS > SLUMBURB RESIDENCE, AND THE HIGHER THAN NONSENSICAL HELL Sometimes, you can take things apart and clean off the crud which may have started growing on it. Moisture and mold can do in electronics, as can dust lizards. I had to take an old ATT Unix PC apart to remove dust lizards. I scrubbed it down with distilled water and a toothbrush. After that, it stayed up without crashing. However, do this outside, and be aware that mold can affect some people (like me!) causing them weakness, etc. As can solvents. Supposedly, rubbing alcohol can help remove some forms of mold crap; but you really want good ventillation when you do that. And not all people can handle the odors of rubbing alcohol. After cleaning it, be sure to change your clothes and take a shower if you did find mold or other crud; you don't want to bring that stuff in to your bedroom! > I HAD TO EYEBALL THE RANGE OF MY INITIAL TESTING. > I INITIALLY SET THE TUNER TO JUST BELOW 10 HZ. ON THE ANALOG DISPLAY. > AND GRADUALLY TUNED IT DOWN, A LITTLE AT A TIME, FOR APPROXIMATELY > 15 MINUTES AT MOST, IN MY TIME OF TRIAL. > > I HAD A FRIEND WITH ME, AND HE WAS THE FIRST TO TRY THE ENTRAINMENT, AND WE BOTH WERE CAUTIOUS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON > WHEN WE TESTED THE ENTRAINMENT. Good! > I'LL EXPLAIN MORE LATER ABOUT WHAT HE SAID HE FELT LIKE, BOTH DURING, AND AFTERWARDS, BUT I'M FEELING 'SOMEWHAT' SLEEPY RIGHT NOW; AND IT SEEMED TO INDUCE BITTERNESS INTO MY MENTAL FEELINGS > AT THE SAME TIME, AFTER EXPERIMENTATION. Interesting. You may associate Theta with bitterness then. Or use bitterness to put you into Theta. Or you may have simply been running a bit low on the frequency. As you sink to about 5hz and lower, memories start coming. When I ran it just a hair below 5, I could almost see my desk at home around age 15, look out the window at the neighbor's immaculately trimmed lawn and lawn swing, etc. (I could never understand why they spent all that time making things look nice, and so little time enjoying them. Our yard was messy. Of course it was messy! We did things! Hamburgers cooked in a "fireplace", more like a fire pit that had been a dead tree, now with a grill across two left over cinderblocks; pine trees and flowers that grew as they wanted, and didn't get mowed down when they showed up, etc. None of this silly "don't touch" mentality; it was ours, there for us use and enjoy.) If you have bad memories, then maybe you want to avoid the lower end of Theta. Or maybe experiment cautiously, as low theta and delta are used in dreaming, and EMDR suggests that dreaming diffuses some types of memories. You might read up on EMDR -- Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. I think that Tibetan prayer wheels, witch's wands, and such are all forms of EMDR type therapy. The higher bands, up to about 33, put the mind into more cognitive states. But without something to think about, it's like revving up your engine without load. > http://www.precisiontimer.com > AMERICAN CONTROL PRODUCTS, AT THE ABOVE WEBLINK, WHICH I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF WEBLINKS PART SEVEN - SENT LAST NIGHT, HAS A 60 MINUTE, MOTOR CONTROLLED TIMER, THAT WILL WORK PERFECT FOR THE ON OFF CONTROL TIME, FOR BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, IF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WILL BENEFIT ME MORE, IN THE FUTURE. The essence is that you proved that you don't go into any kind of sleep, trance or other zombie like state at the energy levels induced by the device you built. So now you see that you are able to turn it off or adjust the frequency as you have it on your head. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 20 18:22:27 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 20 18:22:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Madness and Fog In-Reply-To: <20050921005000.12292.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 20, 2005 05:49:59 PM Message-ID: <20050921012227.94040.qmail@mall-net.com> > It's interesting that only three people went beyond the first page > to see the artistic photos of fog in the valley below. > DO YOU HAVE A COUNTER ON YOUR WEBPAGE, THAT INFORMS YOU AS TO > HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE VISITED, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO THE DIFFERENT LINKS ON YOUR SITE? No, I have a cron job that greps the log files and shows me some information about specific pages -- (not always) where visitors came from, where they went afterwards if on my site, and what kind of browser they used. For example, this log entry (normally a single line): localhost - - [20/Sep/2005:14:32:08 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 301 308 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030821" says that a user from the machine named localhost, at the time noted, requested a copy of the home page "/", using the HTTP 1.1 protocol, and that it was already in the browser's cache (301), so that only 308 bytes had to be sent in reply. "-" indicates this was not done by following a link from another page. The browser was Mozilla 5.0, etc. One of the services we provide clients is web log analysis, return on web investment analysis, etc. I've been doing that since about 1996. the web is one of the areas that I specialize in. Statistical analysis lets you categorize your visitors, and cater to their desires by routing them to pages that are more specific to their nature. > http://www.mall-net.com/tower/fog.html > > > THOSE PHOTO'S MAKE ME WONDER > > IF CALIFORNIA HAS BAD TICK > > PROBLEMS OUT THERE IN THE > > COUNTRY DURING THE SUMMERTIME. > > Sure. > > > I HATE TICKS WITH THE GODDAMNED HATRED OF HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF. > I ALSO HATE WASPS, SPIDERS, SNAKES, SCORPIONS, MOSQUITOS, FLEAS, > CHIGGERS, ANTS, ETC, WITH THE HATRED OF HELL. Wasps, spiders, snakes and ants I don't kill. I've seen a few rattlers out here; but they stay away from me, and I stay away from them. I hope they eat all the mice here. Most animals are not bad if you are not in their way and don't bother them. Most insects won't bite you if you don't disturb them. Mosquitoes on the other hand... The ones that dine on blood (not all do), those deserve to die. > > OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH FOR > > TICKS, DURING THE SUMMERTIME. > > Anyone ever test you for Lyme disease? Lyme can cause brain malfuntions. > > NO; NOT YET. > > I'D LIKE TO BE TESTED FOR THAT, AT THE PHYSICIANS OFFICE, IF MY > INSURANCE COMPANY (HAND)CUFFED, PILL PUSHER SCUFFED, DOCTOR, > WILL RUN THE TEST AT MY NEXT VISIT. Not all doctors believe. you might start the line with whether they have heard much about Lyme affecting mentation, then ask whether it might be worth checking. I think the answer is yes! But I'm not your doctor. > > I BARELY GOT ANY SLEEP LAST > > NIGHT; STAYED UP TILL AROUND > > 5:00 THIS MORNING, AND I AM > > HAVING BREATHING TROUBLES; > > MY CHEST IS TIGHT; LUNGS AND HEART > > HURT, AND I HAVE HYPERTENSION > > OVERKILL. > > I've always found that raising vitamin C consumption helps ease > things like that. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html > I'VE GOT SOME VITAMIN C STILL, AND HAVEN'T TAKEN A TABLET OF IT IN A > LONG WHILE; > I THINK I'LL TAKE ONE OF EM' TONIGHT. > > GOOD NEWS IS THAT I GET TO GO > > THE CHIROPRACTOR THIS AFTERNOON, > > BUT THE TIME OF THE DOCTOR VISIT > > DOESN'T LAST FOR VERY LONG; IT ISN'T > > PERMANENT; AND MONEY; OR SHOULD > > If the connective tissue isn't strong enough, things fall apart. > One of the things vitamin C does, is to help build connective tissue. 50 > molecules of vitamin C are used to create one molecule of collagen, and > more are use to repair damage from stress. > SOUNDS LIKE I NEED A MAJOR DOSEAGE OF C THEN; BECAUSE STRESS IS > SO HIGH RIGHT NOW; USING THE TRACTION TABLE IS STILL BENEFICIAL, > BUT IT ISN'T WORKING TO THE BEST THAT IT CAN, SINCE THE STRESS WILL > NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE COMPLETE RELAXATION; STILL TOO DAMNED MUCH HYPERTENSION, AND DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS NOW; > ESPECIALLY IN MY CARDIOLOGY. Red onions lower blood pressure if eaten in the pound range. > I WORRY ABOUT AORTIC RUPTURE AT TIMES NOW, DUE TO EVEN THE SLIGHTEST ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS THAT EFFECT ME. The aorta is held together by collagen. All our blood vessels are. Vitamin C really helps there. Some say most cardiovascular disease is a result of vitamin C deficiency. > Again, there is no such thing as anti-money. > > HOW ABOUT LACK-O-MONEY? You and me both!!! > There are only things which are more useful than money. And we are tempted to convert money into those things. > I NEED SOME MAJOR ALTERNATIVE HELP, NOW; RIGHT AWAY; BECAUSE THE SHYT-STEM HAS NEARLY FAILED ME, AND IF I KEEP GOING THE WAY THAT I AM, IT WILL ENTIRELY RUIN ME, AND I MIGHT AS WELL START PLANNING A > GRAVE SITE FOR MYSELF. Clyde, when you die, you'll have no use for a grave! Graves are for the living, not the dead. It's the living who want to have a place to remember you, or think you are safely tucked away so as not to bother them. As for me, when I die, just toss my corpse out with the garbage as I'll have no more use for it. (Though I'd not mind it nourishing my favorite tree back home; but only if they don't pump it full of toxic chemicals in vain effort to preserve it.) "Do not embalm. Allergic to formaldehyde." (Laughing!) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Tue Sep 20 19:00:23 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Tue Sep 20 19:00:31 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetic nanophase diamond In-Reply-To: <01d901c5bd73$b7c13b30$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050921020024.8568.qmail@web51913.mail.yahoo.com> MB, sweet article! Bob (who now has another project to add to the big list) --- Michael Best wrote: > http://snipurl.com/hsx6 > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Sep 20 22:48:44 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Sep 20 22:48:55 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject) Message-ID: <02a301c5be70$229a4f80$d0c5bc41@mikey> Particle Field Energy Down-Scaling Via A New Complex Fine Structure Constant Jerry E. Bayles Sept. 07, 2005 The familiar fine structure constant ? in real number terms is equal to 7.297353080 x 10-3 dimensionless units. In this paper, it is presented that the mass of the electron is located near it's own classic radius equal to lq which is ? times rc , which yields the Compton radius. Now if we move the radius of lq out to the Compton radius rc , the mass associated with me is reduced by a factor of ?. However, a mass smaller than the mass of the electron (which has the same spin and charge) is apparently not allowed in nature. Thus, what happens is that the mass temporarily moves to a value equal to rest mass times the fine structure constant but now a kinetic form of the mass arises such that the resulting field energy is set equal to the rest mass times ? times c squared. Then the first velocity reduction from the velocity of light is equal to the new kinetic field energy divided by the rest mass of the electron, all of which is taken under the square root radical. Then the first reduction velocity is equal to c times the square root of ?. http://home.att.net/%7Ej.e.bayles/EnergySpiral_1/EnergySpiral_1.pdf From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 09:22:08 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 09:22:23 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: (REVISED:) LIST. In-Reply-To: <20050919042635.16219.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050921162208.85913.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > 1. THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY AND FOOD DRUG > ADMINISTRATION INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEXES (KOMMUNISMPLEXES) > HAVE WRONGED US ALL. > Someone is killing key Genomics researchers to prevent us from having longevity; > someone is trying to regulate (suppress) key vitamins and supplements (BHT, mercury). > > *I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SUPPRESSION OF GENOMICS SCIENCE. (Laughing!) What do you think the scientists are up to? They are working on all kinds of genetic engineering projects. That's hardly suppression! WELL; WORKING ON IT IS ONE THING. WHEN DOES THE PERPETUAL RESEARCH NONSENSE END, AND WHEN DOES THE GOOD STUFF BEGIN? WHEN DO WE ALL BEGIN TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM GENETIC CORRECTION, AND GENETIC MODIFICATION TO OURSELVES, TO BECOME SUPERHUMAN MAN MACHINES? OR TO TRANSFER OURSELVES; BRAIN AND BODY INTO THE COMPUTERS, AND ELECTRICALLY, INTO THE POWERLINES? > I'VE READ THAT GLOBALISM WANTS TO PUT VITAMINS UNDER STRICT > FASCIST KONTROL, AND DRIVE THE PRICES OF ALL VITAMINS AND WHOLISTIC(WHOLISM) ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THE ROOF. It is not globalism; it is the pharmaceutical companies greasing politicians palms. POLITIKAL PHARMA-PSEUDO-CAL GLOBAL(SCHISM)(ISM). > 4. THE FASCIST BUREAU OF INTRUSION HAS WRONGED US ALL. > This intrusion is a crime, but the Covert Teams consider themselves to be above the law. Nothing is above the law. It is that the laws have changed a bit for now. They will be repealed as the war winds down. WHEN WILL THE WAR WIND DOWN???? ;;;; AFTER A NUKE BOMB IS DETONATED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST? > 5. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE HAS WRONGED US ALL. > The 16th Amendment was never ratified, the IRS operates on the basis of "voluntary compliance" and anyone who withholds tax from your paycheck is stealing your money. Quite a bit of case law to the contrary, I am afraid. I'M NOT SO SHURE OF THAT. THE I.R.S. IS A NOT-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. BUT WOULD ABOLISHMENT OF THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE, CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL WESTERN WORLD, IF IT WERE TO BE REPEALED??? > *IF THERE WERE NO MONEY STOLEN FROM OUR PAYCHECKS, I WONDER IF > PEOPLE COULD AFFORD PERSONAL HEALTHCARE ANY BETTER? > HEALTHCARE NEEDS DRASTIC REFORM. > WE NEED MASS SCALE, WHOLISTIC HEALTHCARE, ON A COOPERATIVE UNIFIED > EFFORT. If there was no tax, the government would not be able to provide you with roads, police protection, military protection, etc. The old ussr would have just walked in and taken over. After they kicked Mexico out. Might be a bit of a fight with Cuba about Florida. I JUST NEED TO MOVE THEN, TO A PLACE WITH LOWER TAXES, IN A MORE IDEAL LOCATION THEN, HERE IN AMERICA, IF THERE IS EVEN ANY AMERICA REMAINING AT ALL, APART FROM THE RUIN, BY THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL, AND BY THE INVASION OF COMMUNIST IMMORALITY, AND BY FASCIST OVERTAXATION AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. > *ENTERTAINMENT SUBLIMINAL BRAINWAVE ENTRAIN-MENT POSSIBLY??? Against the rules. It's been tried. Instead, they sell product placement in the picture. 60 CYCLE BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, MODULATED WITH ALL KINDS OF SPURIOUS VOLTAGE SPIKES, WHITE NOISE, PINK NOISE, AND INTELLIGENT SUBLIMINAL ENTRAINMENT OF COMMUNIST AND FASCIST POOP-AGANDA. > I SEE MY MOTHER A LOT OF THE TIME, EN-TRANCED BY THE TELEVISION, > AS THOUGH SHE IS BEING SUBLIMINALLY HYPNOTIZED BY IT, OR SOMETHING; > WITH ALL OF THE FASCIST, THE COMMUNIST, AND THE FASCIST COMMUNIST, > AND COMMUNIST FASCIST PROPAGANDA CRAP THAT THE MEDIA > KOMMUNISMPLEX ENDLESSLY DISHES OUT. > I'M ALSO SO SICK OF COMMERCIALISM TOO. Some people do zone out on TV. HYPNOTIZED BY THE GODDAMNED T.V.! Commercialism? FUCK COMMERCIALISM, IN THE CONVENTIONAL SENSE. What's the alternative, buying industrial goods? YES! Or being a farmer? NOT BEING A FARMER IN THE CONVENTION CRAP SENSE; BUT DEFINATELY WORKING COOPERATIVELY, ON A NATIONAL SCALE, TO BUILD A NATIONAL HYDROPONIC BIOSPHERE INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR INDOOR FARMING, UNDER ABSOLUTE ECOLOGICAL AND ATMOSPHERIC CONTROL STANDARDS, FOR OUR FOOD PRODUCTION NEEDS. I'll take the commercialism over farming any day! FUCK COMMERCIALISM, IN THE CONVENTIONAL SENSE. > 8. THE PETROCHEMIKAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) > HAS WRONGED US ALL. > Gasoline contains eight factions, two of which are explosive when ignited under > pressure with a spark. The other six factions burn slowly as the piston goes down. > The oil companies are making us buy fuel which doesn't produce horsepower in the > type of engine we use. I'm not so sure. If they did that; then any company which went counter to them, would make a killing! SO F'ING WHAT! True Horsepower gasoline! YES; GASOLINE IS TRUE HORSEPOWER. THE CONVENTION INFERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE IS NOT TRUE HORSEPOWER. HORSESHIT POWER IS MORE DESCRIPTIVE: 1. MECHANICAL AND ACOUSTIC VIBRATION WASTE OF ENERGY. 2. PISTON INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. 3. HEAT LOSS INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. 4. COMPLEXITY INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. 5. EXPENSE INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF (MONEY) ENERGY. 6. ETC.... > *YEAH; I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED NOW, FOR THE INFERNAL (FUCKUPTION) > "COMBUSTION" ENGINE. > TOO BAD TURBINE POWERED ELECTRIC CARS ARE BEING SUPPRESSED. The turbine is not an efficient means of generation. MAYBE NOT; BUT IT IS TREMENDOUSLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE CONVENTIONAL INFERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE. As for electric cars being suppressed; there is not enough demand for them. WE NEED ANEUTRONIC FUSION POWERED ELECTRIC CARS; SOON. The government has to offer all kinds of incentives to convince people to buy electric cars. I mean, do YOU want a car that can only go 20 miles??? NO; BUT THE FUCKERS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX WANT 20 MILE RANGE ELECTRIC CARS AND TRUCKS; THEY WANT THEM DELIBERATELY ENGINEERED TO BE THAT WAY. AND THE DUMBASS MASSES OF STUPID SHEEPLE PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THEIR SHIT COMBUSTION ENGINES, BECAUSE COMBUSTION ENGINES ARE PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINES, AS LONG AS THE FUCKING INDUSTRY KEEPS CHURNING THE DAMNED GOD FORSAKEN THINGS OUT. Not till they started making hybrids, did the consumer CORRECTION: CIVILIAN. NOT CONSUMER. CONSUMER IS A DEGRADING WORD, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; MAYBE MOST PEOPLE DESERVE THE LABEL: CONSUMER. AS FOR ME; I HATE CHINESE-ISM - NIGGERISM - CONSUMERISM - SHIT-ISM GARBAGE-ISM - MAINSTREAM-ISM ETC.... want electric cars. > IF SOMETHING IN THE INTRA-FUCKTURE DOES NOT GIVE, IT WILL LEAD THIS > COUNTRY INTO CIVIL WAR, OVER THE DWINDLING REMAINING RESOURCES, Resources are not dwindling that badly. WELL; ON THE OTHER HAND; GOOD QUALITY FOOD IS EXPENSIVE AS HELL, AND I ONLY LIKE QUALITY FOOD FOR MYSELF, AND UNSELFISHLY WANT IT TO BE EQUALLY AVAILABLE FOR ALL OTHERS AS WELL. THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ISN'T IT, UNLESS I AM CONFUSED; GOOD QUALITY NOURISHMENT FOOD, AVAILABLE EQUALLY FOR EVERYONE ! ? As for civil war... it's been tried before. WELL HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, AS THAT GODDAMNED SAYING GOES. HIGH GAS PRICES MAKE HIGHER FOOD PRODUCTION AND HIGHER SALES COSTS, AND PEOPLE WILL FIGHT AND KILL EACH OTHER, IF THEY CANNOT GET WHAT THEY NEED, FOR SURVIVAL. UNLESS WE HAVE MARTIAL LAW OVER THIS ENTIRE FUCKED COUNTRY, WITH THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS ATTEMPTING TO KEEP PEACE, FOR US ALL. It is only attractive when there are resources which one side wants and the other side has. YES; THE WEALTHY VS. THE POOR; WITH THE MIDDLE CLASS DIVIDED INTO UPPER AND LOWER. The Civil War was about slavery. SLAVERY OF THE POOR BLACK FOLKS; IN THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD, IT IS SLAVERY OF THE POOR BLACK FOLKS, SLAVERY OF THE POOR HISPANIC FOLKS, SLAVERY OF THE POOR MIDDLE EASTERN FOLKS, SLAVERY OF THE POOR CAUCASIAN FOLKS ETC....,,,, AND PERTAINS ALSO TO THE DISADVANTAGED YOUTH EQUALLY AS WELL; WITHOUT GETTING INTO TALK ABOUT POLITICAL AND SECRET SOCIETAL SHIT. The South THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN. wanted that free (well, low pay, you did have to feed and house them) labor. The North thought it was immoral. YES; IT WAS; AND IT STILL IS IMMORAL; ESPECIALLY THE SEXUAL EXPLOITATION OF THE YOUTH, TO FURTHER; (AS I SAID ABOVE, I'LL LEAVE THE POLITICAL AND SECRET SOCIETAL SHIT ASIDE FOR NOW....). The arguments resulted in an attempt to separate. AS I SAID ABOVE: GLOBAL-SCHISM(ISM). > AS WELL AS GLOBALISM NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTS, AND 'MAN ENGINEERED' > NUCLEAR NATURAL DISASTERS; (EXAMPLE: NUCLEAR TSUNAMI'S), AND > POPULATION KONTROL DISEASES, ETC, WILL ENSUE UPON ALL OF US > EQUALLY, WITHOUT ANY WAYS AND MEANS FOR FUTURE SURVIVAL, FOR > ANY OF US; NO FUTURE AND NO HOPE.... I really don't think there are any idiots trying to create such disasters. Well... Maybe old salami been loaded; but I don't think he is capable of pulling that off. OSAMA LADEN COULDN'T PULL THAT OFF; BUT COMBINATIONS OF E.L.F. RADIO FREQUENCY, AND OTHER RADIO FREQUENCY SPECTRUM MANIPULATION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND ECOLOGY, AND UNDERWATER NUCLEAR DETONATION HAVE THAT POTENTIAL TO DO SO, AND AS THAT ARTICLE THAT MIKE POSTED, REGARDING RUSSIAN SUBMARINES STIRRING THE COLD AND WARM WATERS OF THE OCEANS SUGGESTED AS BEING A POTENTIAL, WHO'S TO KNOW EXACTLY? THE GREAT RADIO CONTROVERSY IS STILL CONTROVERSIAL. > I WANT A BETTER FUTURE THAN THAT! So work on it. Advocate it. Write good articles presenting research on how to do it. OK. > WE ALL NEED TO DRILL GARGANTUAN SIZED HOLES IN THE FINANCIAL > INTRA-FUCKTURE, AND DE-BLOAT ITS ENDLESS MONEY POWER HUNGRY > GREED - THAT, AND, ALL OF THE DAMNED WORTHLESS GREEDY, ABSOLUTE > POWER HUNGRY / ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTED POLITICIANS ARE THE > REASONS BEHIND, WHY WE ARE ALL HAVING TO SUFFER SO DAMNED BAD; > THIS CERTAINLY ISN'T THE FULL PICTURE, BUT IT IS, A VERY LARGE PART OF > IT. If you drain the banks... how are people going to buy homes? GIVE PEOPLE ALL OF THEIR GOLD SILVER AND PLATINUM THAT ALL OF THE ENDLESS FUCKING PAPER IS PRETENDING TO BACK UP, AND BUILD SMALLER BANKS; SMALLER BANKS AND SMALLER GOVERNMENT. VICE VERSA: SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND SMALLER BANKS. That's the deal, you know. Banks take in money THEY TAKE FAR TOO MUCH MONEY, AND GIVE EVEN LESS OF IT BACK. and loan it back out. YES; AT GARGATUAN LONG TERM EXPENSE TO US CIVILIANS, WHILE WE SUFFER FROM STRESS DISEASES, SUCH AS HEART ATTACKS, HEART FAILURES, CANCER, HYPERTENSION STRESS, ETC, ETC, ETC. > 10. THE MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES ARE HEAVILY TOXIC. > The Fascists in WWII used flouride as a mind-numbing agent. Flourides are put in because there was some research suggesting stronger teeth. YEAH WELL; FLOURIDE OVERKILL IS NO GOOD; AND TULSA TAP WATER CRAP WATER HAS FLOURIDE OVERKILL. Now, the research is suspect and some municipalities are abandoing that approach. YES; IT IS COOL THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. IN MY LOOKING INTO FORT COLLINS COLORADO AT: http://www.ci.fort-collins.co.us/ WHEN I VISITED THE WEBSITE BACK IN APRIL, I SAW THAT THEIR CITY ELECTION BALLOT ISSUE # 2, MENTIONED ABOUT THE ELIMINATION OF FLOURIDE IN THEIR MUNICIPAL TAP WATER SUPPLIES. GEORGE NOORY; ON ONE OF THE COAST TO COAST A.M. BROADCASTS, MENTIONED ABOUT FLOURIDE HAVING A BRITTLING EFFECT ON TEETH, AS USED IN OVERABUNDANCE IN THE CRAP WATER, LIKE HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMLAND. > 11. ELECTROMAGNETIC NEURAL POLLUTION IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. > This pollution is deliberate; the government has become abusive - in concert with the Fascist Vatican. ??? First off, just what the heck is electromagnetic neural pollution??? VARIOUS 60 HZ. ELECTOMAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTHS, EFFECTING BRAIN AND BODY CHEMISTRY: AIDING IN NEURAL ANXIETIES, AND AIDING IN THE WEAKENING OF FORTIFIED IMMUNE SYSTEMS!!!! > *INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE! ; > I CAN'T SEE ANY LINK TO THE VATICAN THOUGH; UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH > THE NEGATIVE ELECTRONEUROLOGICAL STIMULATION OF HYPERACTIVE > CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN, AND WHO ARE BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED; THOSE > CHILDREN WHO ARE FORCEFED RIDALIN, FOR THE STIMULATION OF SOCIAL > AND ANTI SOCIAL ANXIETY, FOR SEXUAL KONTROL REASONS. > SOMETHING LEADING UP TO THE ANTI-CHRIST, AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER > AND DISORDER??? Non sequitor. The Vatican has not much control over anything! I mean, look at the sexual proclivity of our youth. Vatican? Control? Ha ha ha! > 12. INTERNET AND AIRWAVE IMMORALITY, ARE BOTH SUPPORTED > EQUALLY, BY ALL OF THE ABOVE. > The occult pentagram illustrates the course of all nations. Political power descends > from God at the top to become a nation at the lower right point. The nation moves up Some of my friends are Wiccan, and I've particitpated in some pagan forums in the past. This stuff is just total whacko garbage. OK. > 13. MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES > AND BUSINESSES, ARE BUILT BY DESIGN, TO BURN TO THE GROUND, > WHEN SET ON FIRE. > These homes are preferred by the Dominators, since they are transparent to the > "Holy" See. Froot Loops! Froot Loops! Froot Loops! YEAH; THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT BACK; BUT NOT ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF HOW WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES AND BUSINESS ARE DELIBERATELY BUILT TO BURN. > *FREE ENERGY AND DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL GO HAND IN HAND. No relationship what so ever! I DISAGREE! LATER, CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/a3eab462/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 10:11:31 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 10:11:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY M.D. PHYSICIAN HAS BECOME NEXT TO WORTHLESS, In-Reply-To: <20050921005420.75605.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050921171131.3543.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I'LL EXPLAIN MORE LATER ABOUT WHAT HE SAID HE FELT LIKE, BOTH > DURING, AND AFTERWARDS, HE INDICATED THAT IT HAD A POSITIVE RELAXING EFFECT ON HIM, WHILE HE WAS IN THE E.M. FIELD. HE MENTIONED THAT HE HAD A FEELING AFTERWARDS THOUGH, OF THE FEELING THAT ONE HAS, AS ONE COMES DOWN OFF OF A DRUG. > BUT I'M FEELING 'SOMEWHAT' SLEEPY RIGHT NOW; AND IT > SEEMED TO INDUCE BITTERNESS INTO MY MENTAL FEELINGS > AT THE SAME TIME, AFTER EXPERIMENTATION. Interesting. You may associate Theta with bitterness then. Or use bitterness to put you into Theta. I FIGURED THAT IT IS MY STRONG WILLED MIND, RESISTING THE EFFECTS OF THE E.M. FIELD, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. OR MAYBE JUST MY ADRENAL OVERKILL, FIGHTING THE EFFECTS THAT ENTRAINMENT CAN PRODUCE, AT, OR ABOVE THE FREQUENCIES THAT I DID MY FIRST TESTING AT; 10 HZ. AND BELOW. AFTERWARDS THOUGH, I DEFINATELY DID HAVE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SHORT TERM MEMORY LOSS, BUT IT WASN'T ANYTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT. Or you may have simply been running a bit low on the frequency. WITHOUT A CALIBRATED FREQUENCY COUNTER, I CAN'T TELL. I THINK I'LL TAKE MY COUNTER TO TRI-STATE INSTRUMENT LAB, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN, AND SEE IF THEY MAY BE ABLE TO FIND WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COUNTER. As you sink to about 5hz and lower, memories start coming. When I ran it just a hair below 5, I could almost see my desk at home around age 15, look out the window at the neighbor's immaculately trimmed lawn and lawn swing, etc. (I could never understand why they spent all that time making things look nice, and so little time enjoying them. Our yard was messy. Of course it was messy! We did things! Hamburgers cooked in a "fireplace", more like a fire pit that had been a dead tree, now with a grill across two left over cinderblocks; pine trees and flowers that grew as they wanted, and didn't get mowed down when they showed up, etc. None of this silly "don't touch" mentality; it was ours, there for us use and enjoy.) INTERESTING! If you have bad memories, YES; MOST OF MY MEMORIES ARE BAD, FROM MY YOUTH. then maybe you want to avoid the lower end of Theta. Or maybe experiment cautiously, as low theta and delta are used in dreaming, and EMDR suggests that dreaming diffuses some types of memories. I'D LIKE TO PERMANENTLY DIFFUSE BAD MEMORIES FROM MY YOUTH. You might read up on EMDR -- Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. WHAT BENEFITS WILL THAT HAVE, ON BOTH MYSELF, AND ON OTHERS? I think that Tibetan prayer wheels, witch's wands, and such are all forms of EMDR type therapy. The higher bands, up to about 33, put the mind into more cognitive states. But without something to think about, it's like revving up your engine without load. OK. > http://www.precisiontimer.com > AMERICAN CONTROL PRODUCTS, AT THE > ABOVE WEBLINK, WHICH I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF WEBLINKS PART > SEVEN - SENT LAST NIGHT, HAS A 60 MINUTE, MOTOR CONTROLLED TIMER, > THAT WILL WORK PERFECT FOR THE ON OFF CONTROL TIME, FOR BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, IF BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT WILL BENEFIT ME > MORE, IN THE FUTURE. The essence is that you proved that you don't go into any kind of sleep, trance or other zombie like state at the energy levels induced by the device that you built. So now you see that you are able to turn it off or adjust the frequency as you have it on your head. I WONDER THOUGH, IF I USE BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IN COMBINATION WITH SEDATIVE DRUGS, WHAT THE COMBINED RESULTS WOULD BE, IF I USE DELTA FREQUENCIES WITH SEDATIVE CHEMICALS. WOULD I HAVE UNWANTED NEGATIVE REACTIONS? 8 TO 14 HZ. IS AT THE ALPHA RANGE, ACCORDING TO YOUR WEBPAGE: http://www.sitepsych.com/alt/bioergo/bwaves.html IF USING CHEMICAL SEDATION, + 14 HZ. ENTRAINMENT SIMULTANEOUSLY, DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS, FROM THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO? ALSO; THE E.M. FIELD WAS WEAK, AND I AM CONSIDERING AMPING IT UP A LITTLE BIT. I ALSO MEASURED THE IMPEDENCE OF THE THREE COILS, AT 5.1 OHMS WHEN I HELD THE LEAD WIRES OF THE MULTIMETER STILL, BEFORE I DID THE INITIAL TEST. 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/52baaa19/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 21 11:53:42 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 21 11:53:47 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: (REVISED:) LIST. In-Reply-To: <20050921162208.85913.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 21, 2005 09:22:08 AM Message-ID: <20050921185342.16718.qmail@mall-net.com> > > *I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SUPPRESSION OF GENOMICS SCIENCE. > > (Laughing!) What do you think the scientists are up to? They are > working on all kinds of genetic engineering projects. That's hardly > suppression! > > WELL; WORKING ON IT IS ONE THING. > > WHEN DOES THE PERPETUAL RESEARCH NONSENSE END, > AND WHEN DOES THE GOOD STUFF BEGIN? When they know enough to make it. Science is not a fast thing! never was. And all too often, we start out trying to make things before we understand enough. Just look at X-Rays for example, we use to have X-Ray machines at every shoe store in the 1950's. I remember having my shoe fit X-Rayed to show that the shoe fit. then it came out that the shoe salesmen started getting growths on their hands -- cancer. It became clear that we were exposing children to huge risks for foot cancer. Those neat X-Rays weren't as innocent as we thought. Then there is DDT, once touted as the answer to agricultural productivity, and the way to get rid of all kinds of insect pests in the home. Turns out it's not to innocent either; but we did finally get rid of bedbugs and stamped out malaria in the southern part of the USA. > WHEN DO WE ALL BEGIN TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM > > GENETIC CORRECTION, AND GENETIC MODIFICATION TO > OURSELVES, TO BECOME SUPERHUMAN MAN MACHINES? So what, the haves are twice as strong and twice as intelligent as the have-nots? I think someone named Hitler tried that with selective breeding. His family name does not seem to have a very good reputation anymore... > OR TO TRANSFER OURSELVES; BRAIN AND BODY INTO > THE COMPUTERS, AND ELECTRICALLY, INTO THE POWERLINES? My body is broken in many ways, yet even I am not ready to do that! > > I'VE READ THAT GLOBALISM WANTS TO PUT VITAMINS UNDER STRICT > FASCIST > KONTROL, AND DRIVE THE PRICES OF ALL VITAMINS AND WHOLISTIC(WHOLISM) > ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THE ROOF. > > It is not globalism; it is the pharmaceutical companies greasing politicians palms. > > > POLITIKAL PHARMA-PSEUDO-CAL GLOBAL(SCHISM)(ISM). It's money, excess greed, that's all. Greed is good in that it motivates us to improve things; but when it goes too far, ot the accumulation of wealth and power beyond that which benefits society, then it becomes very bad. Enron, World Com, etc. > > 4. THE FASCIST BUREAU OF INTRUSION HAS WRONGED US ALL. > > This intrusion is a crime, but the Covert Teams consider themselves to be above the law. > > Nothing is above the law. It is that the laws have changed a bit for > now. They will be repealed as the war winds down. > WHEN WILL THE WAR WIND DOWN???? ;;;; AFTER A NUKE BOMB IS > DETONATED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST? When the radicals who are perverting Islam are neutralized. Islam itself, is not that bad a religion. But when one has a mass of ignorant believers who rely upon Authorities to interpret their religious books and traditions, it is easy to create large groups of people willing to die for "the cause". We had this in Christianity at one point. That was eroded by a fellow named Gutenberg, who invented a cheap way of publishing things. He and several others made the Bible cheap enough for the average person to buy and read. The Church was very, very upset over this! All of a sudden, the lay person became able to question, even dispute what the priests were saying. So it would seem to me, that the average Muslim is too poor and too ignorant to read his own religious works and interpret them. This, we could actually help with in subtle ways. > > 5. THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE HAS WRONGED US ALL. > > > The 16th Amendment was never ratified, the IRS operates on the basis > Quite a bit of case law to the contrary, I am afraid. > I'M NOT SO SHURE OF THAT. > THE I.R.S. IS A NOT-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. The people working in it are civil servants paid for by the government. The money goes to the government. It is clearly a government operation. > BUT WOULD ABOLISHMENT OF THE INFERNAL REVENUE ANTI-SERVICE, > CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL WESTERN WORLD, IF IT WERE > TO BE REPEALED??? The government has to get money in some manner. So they tax transactions involving money. What is the alternative? Printing more money? That's been tried before. It creates rampant inflation, with money losing value rapidly. It starts with inflation, then becomes hyper-inflation where a unit of money loses half to nine tenths of it's value each year. Dictatorships try this. Dumb democracies, such as those in South America, try this. It does not work! It prompts the people to riot, promotes the military to take over and become a dictatorship, etc. In fact the rampant printing of money by the government in Germany is one of the factors which helped a guy named Hitler get into power. The people just couldn't stand having to use a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread! The essence of money is value. Money merely represents the value of the goods and labor in a society, the value that the society holds. If you print more money, the value in the society does not increase; the value each piece of money represents, decreases. And with that, those who save their money for future needs are harmed the most. It induces a blindness toward the future. > > *IF THERE WERE NO MONEY STOLEN FROM OUR PAYCHECKS, I WONDER IF > > PEOPLE COULD AFFORD PERSONAL HEALTHCARE ANY BETTER? > > HEALTHCARE NEEDS DRASTIC REFORM. > > WE NEED MASS SCALE, WHOLISTIC HEALTHCARE, ON A COOPERATIVE UNIFIED > > EFFORT. > > If there was no tax, the government would not be able to provide you > with roads, police protection, military protection, etc. The old ussr > would have just walked in and taken over. After they kicked Mexico out. > Might be a bit of a fight with Cuba about Florida. > > > I JUST NEED TO MOVE THEN, TO A PLACE WITH LOWER TAXES, IN A MORE > IDEAL LOCATION THEN, HERE IN AMERICA, IF THERE IS EVEN ANY AMERICA REMAINING AT ALL, APART FROM THE RUIN, BY THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL, AND BY THE INVASION OF COMMUNIST IMMORALITY, AND BY FASCIST OVERTAXATION AND OVERZONATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. America is one of the most enduring nations of all time. Why? Because we, the common citizens of this nation, WANT it to endure. Look a the history of rebellions and revolutions. Why did they happen? Because the people had no voice. Eventually, they got fed up enough that there was a revolt, ousting the previous rulers. And typically, they got no better in the new bunch. n So they did it again, with a lot of bloodshed. We vote the guys out. No bloodshed, other than traffic accidents driving to the polling places. Very low societal cost! > > *ENTERTAINMENT SUBLIMINAL BRAINWAVE ENTRAIN-MENT POSSIBLY??? > > Against the rules. It's been tried. Instead, they sell product placement in the picture. > 60 CYCLE BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, MODULATED WITH ALL KINDS OF > SPURIOUS VOLTAGE SPIKES, WHITE NOISE, PINK NOISE, AND INTELLIGENT > SUBLIMINAL ENTRAINMENT OF COMMUNIST AND FASCIST POOP-AGANDA. Nope. Can't be done. And even if brain wave entrainment could be done, that would not convey information, only mood. Mood itself does not do the same for each person. So it does not have any real benefit to the perpetrators. Where's the profit in that? Who benefits? In fictional works, it is the ego of some maniac which is stoked by doing this for his own amusement. In the real world, money evens the playing field. It costs money to do that, so the perpetrator needs to have some way of gaining money out of that action. In our free market system, a far greater ego boost can be had from creating something people like, an designing it used by people all over the country. (Furniture and clothing designers are good examples of this. The Billionaires Billy Gates and Warren Buffet operate this way too. Steve Jobs and his Apple Computer is another example, but he's not that rich.) > > I SEE MY MOTHER A LOT OF THE TIME, EN-TRANCED BY THE TELEVISION, > > AS THOUGH SHE IS BEING SUBLIMINALLY HYPNOTIZED BY IT, OR SOMETHING; > Some people do zone out on TV. > HYPNOTIZED BY THE GODDAMNED T.V.! More like not having anything more interesting to do. TV is the greatest (worst) drug that was ever invented. > Commercialism? > > FUCK COMMERCIALISM, IN THE CONVENTIONAL SENSE. > > > > What's the alternative, buying industrial goods? > > YES! They are more expensive because they are way over-built for typical consumer use. Do you want to buy a three to ten thousand dollar TV camera? Or one of those $500 consumer jobs that does not produce the stunning quality, but DOES produce good enough for the average person? If only $3,000 TV cameras were available, most people would miss out on recording events of their lives, events they now share with others. > Or being a farmer? > > NOT BEING A FARMER IN THE CONVENTION CRAP SENSE; BUT DEFINATELY WORKING COOPERATIVELY, ON A NATIONAL SCALE, TO BUILD A NATIONAL HYDROPONIC BIOSPHERE INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR INDOOR FARMING, UNDER > ABSOLUTE ECOLOGICAL AND ATMOSPHERIC CONTROL STANDARDS, FOR OUR FOOD PRODUCTION NEEDS. Nature is cheap. It keeps things working whether we are around to tend it or not. Hydroponic is far, far more expensive than conventional dirt farming. Going hydroponic would mean our foods cost many times more, that the average farmer would have to sell out to the agribusiness conglomerates, etc. It just does not work where dirt farming is a viable alternative! > I'll take the commercialism over farming any day! > > FUCK COMMERCIALISM, IN THE CONVENTIONAL SENSE. I disagree. > > 8. THE PETROCHEMIKAL INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX (KOMMUNISMPLEX) > > HAS WRONGED US ALL. > > Gasoline contains eight factions, two of which are explosive when ignited under > > pressure with a spark. The other six factions burn slowly as the piston goes down. > > The oil companies are making us buy fuel which doesn't produce horsepower in the > > type of engine we use. > > I'm not so sure. If they did that; then any company which went > counter to them, would make a killing! > SO F'ING WHAT! Well, that means the company producing inferior gasoline would go bankrupt very quickly. Since most companies really want to survive, they produce what we want. That's the core of commercialism. And democracy. The two go hand in hand. > True Horsepower gasoline! > > YES; GASOLINE IS TRUE HORSEPOWER. > > THE CONVENTION INFERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE IS NOT TRUE HORSEPOWER. It is merely a means of converting a combustible to energy, which is measured as horsepower > HORSESHIT POWER IS MORE DESCRIPTIVE: > > 1. MECHANICAL AND ACOUSTIC VIBRATION WASTE OF ENERGY. > > 2. PISTON INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. > > 3. HEAT LOSS INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. > > 4. COMPLEXITY INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF ENERGY. > > 5. EXPENSE INEFFICIENCY WASTE OF (MONEY) ENERGY. > > 6. ETC.... > > > > *YEAH; I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED NOW, FOR THE INFERNAL (FUCKUPTION) > > "COMBUSTION" ENGINE. > > TOO BAD TURBINE POWERED ELECTRIC CARS ARE BEING SUPPRESSED. > > The turbine is not an efficient means of generation. > > > > MAYBE NOT; BUT IT IS TREMENDOUSLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE > > CONVENTIONAL INFERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE. Not on a per gallon of fuel basis. We tried this before. One of the big tree auto manufacturers produced a very small number of turbine based automobiles which they had consumers drive. The turbine engine is sluggish, because it has tremendous rotational inertia at the high turbine speeds required to work. This is best illustrated by the practice of fighter jets during landing. As they come in for landing, they rev up their engines so that if the tail hook fails to grab, they don't end up rolling and falling off the end of the carrier deck. They absolutely Can Not rev up their powerful engines fast enough not to fall into the sea if they miss the hook. The turbine engine is also not efficient. Gasoline consumption was very high in the turbine automobiles, I think around 8 miles per gallon or less. In the end, the consumer did not want such an unworkable piece of crap. And here again, is the benefit of consumerism. We vote with our dollars every time we go to market. The auto companies could not cram an inferior performing car down the consumer's throats. > As for electric cars being suppressed; there is not enough demand for them. > > WE NEED ANEUTRONIC FUSION POWERED ELECTRIC CARS; SOON. When a workable system of fusion is invented, I am sure it will be put in automobiles when it is safe. Maybe even before it is safe... > The government has to offer all kinds of incentives to convince people > to buy electric cars. I mean, do YOU want a car that can only go 20 > miles??? > > NO; BUT THE FUCKERS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX WANT > 20 MILE RANGE ELECTRIC CARS AND TRUCKS; > THEY WANT THEM DELIBERATELY ENGINEERED TO BE THAT WAY. The simple physics of battery size and mass limits what can be done. When better ways of storing energy are developed, the range of these cars will increase. But right now, the dollar cost per unit of energy is such that twenty to fifty miles is what the consumer can afford. Which is why they also include a gasoline engine to charge the batteries. The point is, gasoline engines only run efficiently at full energy output. Driving requires a huge variation in energy outputs, which better suits the electric motor. So you charge the batteries at full throttle, then shut off the gasoline engine and use the electric motors at whatever energy level is needed. Modularizing this with multiple motors, adding and subtracting motors as needed, will produce an even better energy conversion vs speed curve. > AND THE DUMBASS MASSES OF STUPID SHEEPLE PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THEIR SHIT COMBUSTION ENGINES, BECAUSE COMBUSTION ENGINES ARE PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINES, AS LONG AS THE FUCKING INDUSTRY KEEPS CHURNING THE DAMNED GOD FORSAKEN THINGS OUT. Well, they are not perpetual motion machines. As for industry, it is the people who demand them, not the other way around. Come up with something better, and the people will come around and buy it. > Not till they started making hybrids, did the > consumer > > CORRECTION: CIVILIAN. > NOT CONSUMER. Consumer. > CONSUMER IS A DEGRADING WORD, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; MAYBE > MOST PEOPLE DESERVE THE LABEL: CONSUMER. Most people who experience consumerism like it. Only those too poor and ignorant to be consumers think of the term in derogatory terms. Again, read Belenko's book, or any of the books defectors from the USSR or China have written. They go Ga ga over our supermarkets!!! > > IF SOMETHING IN THE INTRA-FUCKTURE DOES NOT GIVE, IT WILL LEAD THIS > > COUNTRY INTO CIVIL WAR, OVER THE DWINDLING REMAINING RESOURCES, > > Resources are not dwindling that badly. > > WELL; ON THE OTHER HAND; GOOD QUALITY FOOD IS EXPENSIVE AS HELL, > AND I ONLY LIKE QUALITY FOOD FOR MYSELF, AND UNSELFISHLY WANT IT TO BE EQUALLY AVAILABLE FOR ALL OTHERS AS WELL. > THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ISN'T > IT, UNLESS I AM CONFUSED; GOOD QUALITY NOURISHMENT FOOD, AVAILABLE EQUALLY FOR EVERYONE ! ? Democracy: To each according to his ability to produce. You want more? Learn to produce more. Learn to produce what has more value than what you do now. I am reminded of Red Adair, the oil well fire fighter. I remember seeing a TV news piece of him walking up to a huge fire and putting it out with a fire extinguisher, for which he was paid several million dollars. Anyone with a fire extinguisher at that location could have done it. No one else knew HOW to get that fire extinguisher WHERE it would do that work!!! And it took Red Adair months of work with a lot of expensive equipment to get that $100 fire extinguisher into place. Knowledge is the key in today's world. > As for civil war... it's been tried before. > WELL HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, AS THAT GODDAMNED SAYING GOES. > HIGH GAS PRICES MAKE HIGHER FOOD PRODUCTION AND HIGHER SALES COSTS, AND PEOPLE WILL FIGHT AND KILL EACH OTHER, IF THEY CANNOT GET WHAT THEY NEED, FOR SURVIVAL. > UNLESS WE HAVE MARTIAL LAW OVER THIS ENTIRE FUCKED COUNTRY, WITH THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS ATTEMPTING TO KEEP PEACE, FOR US ALL. The minute we declare martial law, people stop producing, stop creating new things, stop thinking because fear eats their mind-time. After each disaster, innovation and productivity fall. It is the freedom of democracy which created consumerism, and consumerism which created the freedom of democracy. Chicken and egg. As people became free to do what they wanted, they wanted to make money, and thus did for each other what they could so that they would be given that money. > It is only attractive when there are resources which one side wants and the other side has. > > YES; THE WEALTHY VS. THE POOR; WITH THE MIDDLE CLASS DIVIDED INTO > UPPER AND LOWER. People drift up and down through that "division" all the time. You want to go up? Become more productive. You want to goof off on drugs? You fall down. Unfortunately, health and age are also ways of falling down through the "division lines". > The Civil War was about slavery. > SLAVERY OF THE POOR BLACK FOLKS; > IN THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD, IT IS SLAVERY OF THE POOR BLACK FOLKS, > SLAVERY OF THE POOR HISPANIC FOLKS, SLAVERY OF THE POOR MIDDLE EASTERN FOLKS, SLAVERY OF THE POOR CAUCASIAN FOLKS ETC....,,,, AND > PERTAINS ALSO TO THE DISADVANTAGED YOUTH EQUALLY AS WELL; If you do not learn, you do not earn because you do not offer anything but the value of brawn to society. Brawn is now the providence of machines, so human brawn has little value unless coupled with the intelligence to put that brawn where it is most needed. Maybe enough writing for one sitting... Ah, just a little more... > OSAMA LADEN COULDN'T PULL THAT OFF; BUT COMBINATIONS OF E.L.F. RADIO FREQUENCY, AND OTHER RADIO FREQUENCY SPECTRUM MANIPULATION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND ECOLOGY, AND UNDERWATER NUCLEAR DETONATION HAVE THAT POTENTIAL TO DO SO, AND AS THAT > ARTICLE THAT MIKE POSTED, REGARDING RUSSIAN SUBMARINES STIRRING > THE COLD AND WARM WATERS OF THE OCEANS SUGGESTED AS BEING > A POTENTIAL, WHO'S TO KNOW EXACTLY? Lets see now... a gigantic submarine, maybe half a mile long, sitting trying to stir up... how much water? How long a coast line? How much energy??? I don't think a ten mile long gigawatt submarine could make a dent! As for the Russian Warbler radios, they went silent the moment the cold war ended. It took over a quarter of the Russian Military budget to run those things. So how could any tinpot egomaniac like old salami afford that? Not even if all his followers hand cranked the generators!!! (And then he'd have to freed them.) > > I WANT A BETTER FUTURE THAN THAT! > > So work on it. Advocate it. Write good articles presenting research on how to do it. > > OK. > > WE ALL NEED TO DRILL GARGANTUAN SIZED HOLES IN THE FINANCIAL > > INTRA-FUCKTURE, AND DE-BLOAT ITS ENDLESS MONEY POWER HUNGRY > If you drain the banks... how are people going to buy homes? > GIVE PEOPLE ALL OF THEIR GOLD SILVER AND PLATINUM THAT ALL OF THE > ENDLESS FUCKING PAPER IS PRETENDING TO BACK UP, AND BUILD SMALLER BANKS; SMALLER BANKS AND SMALLER GOVERNMENT. > VICE VERSA: SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND SMALLER BANKS. The smaller the bank, the higher the risk. Larger banks spread the risk s over more people. So if one person or another can't pay off his loan, the bank does not go under. If you keep all of your sliver tucked in your private vault... how does anyone else get to borrow the money to build a house? Or start a company? Think about that. Then too, there are robbers, fires, etc. Banks are safer. > YES; AT GARGATUAN LONG TERM EXPENSE TO US CIVILIANS, WHILE WE > SUFFER FROM STRESS DISEASES, SUCH AS HEART ATTACKS, HEART FAILURES, CANCER, HYPERTENSION STRESS, ETC, ETC, ETC. Well, what's the alternative? Paying cash for everything? that means before you can afford the tool to make money, you have to make the money. Credit lets you buy tools to make the money before you make the money. And that also suggests that you should not pay by credit for anything other than food and tools. But the consumer does not have that level of discipline. But it is an indication of our faith in the future. In a better future which we are building every day. > > 11. ELECTROMAGNETIC NEURAL POLLUTION IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. > > > This pollution is deliberate; the government has become abusive - in > concert with the Fascist Vatican. > > ??? First off, just what the heck is electromagnetic neural > pollution??? > VARIOUS 60 HZ. ELECTOMAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTHS, EFFECTING BRAIN AND BODY CHEMISTRY: AIDING IN NEURAL ANXIETIES, AND AIDING IN THE WEAKENING OF FORTIFIED IMMUNE SYSTEMS!!!! I am no fan of AC magnetic fields; but I don't know of any good alternatives. DC isn't good because it is harder to convert different voltages. > > 13. MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES > > AND BUSINESSES, ARE BUILT BY DESIGN, TO BURN TO THE GROUND, > > WHEN SET ON FIRE. > > These homes are preferred by the Dominators, since they are transparent to the > > "Holy" See. > > Froot Loops! Froot Loops! Froot Loops! > YEAH; THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT BACK; BUT NOT ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF HOW WOODEN STRUCTURED RESIDENCES AND BUSINESS ARE DELIBERATELY BUILT TO BURN. Wood is cheaper than metal. In the old days, they sue to burn old barns down for the metal nails. > > *FREE ENERGY AND DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL GO HAND IN HAND. > > No relationship what so ever! > > I DISAGREE! When energy becomes free, people will do anything they can. People always do anything they can get away with. Look at what happened when railroads first came into being. The railroad robber held everyone up, then departed to another state. Then came the FBI, which could cross state lines. Immorality rose as kids with cars could do things in the back seat. Well, that you can't really prevent. But you can encourage them to get married. As energy becomes more available, people will travel further and further from their home base. they feel freer, so they try more things. Morality comes when you can't do things. Skirt hem lines rise on a booming economy, and fall on a shrinking economy. That's contrary to the price of cloth, but very much in line with the thoughts of whether you can or can not support the family that comes from sexual interest. And you know, that's not such a bad thing. It keeps humanity going. No matter what, a _reasonable_ level of interest in the opposite sex is what keeps us building a future for ourselves and our children to live in. As it has since long, long before there were human beings. Nest building, it's called. Ultimately, all economy and religion is based upon our innate nest building instincts and our innate intellectual interest in the future. Democracy is built upon, and encourages faith in the future and in our fellow human beings. It's just a neat system that works! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 21 14:05:07 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 21 14:05:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNFREE. In-Reply-To: <20050921173829.12602.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 21, 2005 10:38:29 AM Message-ID: <20050921210507.99623.qmail@mall-net.com> > UNFREE: > > 1. FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE; > > 2. ENERGY DEPENDENCE; > > 3. CHEMICAL DEPENDENCE. > > NOW I CAN PLANILY SEE > HOW UNFREE THAT TULSA, > THAT OKLAHOMA, THAT > AMERICA, AND THAT THIS > ENTIRE PLANET ARE. But you have not compared this with the tyranny of life! We have to eat! We can't be totally free if we have to eat several times a day, can we? Ok, so we are only relatively free. Relative to what, you ask... Relative to the dictatorships, the old USSR, the Chinese communists and other governments who have thought police, who kill others for holding the wrong opinions. Relative to governments with 50% and higher tax rates that they use for "social services" which are dictated by the government, rather than the people who receive them. Relative to Theorcracies where you must worship this or that God, and believe that you are one sorry SOB living on this imperfect planet. Here in America, you are free to believe what you wish, talk about it, and as long as it does not harm others, do things you want to do. And if you want to tell God to get lost, or think God is a She, or a Committee, or even insane, it's between you and God, not the thought police and the mullahs. That's what I like about America! It's FREE!!! -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 21 17:09:40 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 21 17:09:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Global Warming Threat In-Reply-To: <20050921185342.16718.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 21, 2005 06:53:42 PM Message-ID: <20050922000941.93579.qmail@mall-net.com> Latest studies reported in New Scientist magazine show that Global Warming is a treat to the polar ice caps. What's new about that, you ask? The polar ice caps in question are not on Earth, but the next planet over, Mars. So we hominids are either guilty of a crime so heinous that it extends beyond our pitiful planet... Or the sun is warming regardless of whatever we are doing. And there is nothing on earth that we can do to stop it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 21 19:51:33 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 21 19:51:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Politics subverts reality of global warming! Message-ID: <02f801c5bf20$8b45bff0$d0c5bc41@mikey> And the technology they use has nothing to do with science! All they do is offset their pollution by purchasing carbon credits! -MB Renewable Ventures Signs Its First Fleet 'Certified Clean Car' Participant Tuesday September 13, 10:00 am ET Club Sportiva Will Neutralize CO2 Emissions from Its Fleet of Classic, Exotic Cars SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Just eight weeks after announcing its Certified Clean Car Emission Reduction Program at World Environment Day, Renewable Ventures LLC, a renewable energy project finance VC, today announced its first fleet partner in the program, Club Sportiva, the pioneer of timeshare access to classic sports cars. By participating in the Certified Clean Car program, Club Sportiva will offset the carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions of its entire fleet, making its classic and exotic automobiles carbon neutral. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050913/sftu008.html?.v=24 From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 21 21:16:59 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 21 21:16:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Space elevator development Message-ID: <030301c5bf2c$7a15c340$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.techzonez.com/comments.php?shownews=14880 From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 21:48:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 21:48:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Space elevator development In-Reply-To: <030301c5bf2c$7a15c340$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050922044825.93484.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> GOOD ARTICLE. I WISH THEY'D HURRY THE HELL UP AND BUILD THE DAMNED THING THOUGH. I WANT TO GO INTO SPACE AS INEXPENSIVELY AS POSSIBLE NOW. I'M SICK OF PLANET EARTH. I NEED TO GO INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT, AND TAKE A SUFFICIENT DOSE OF CYANIDE WITH ME, AND SAY ADIOS, TO EVERYONE. LIFE HURTS TOO MUCH, AND I'M READY TO LEAVE ALL OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING BEHIND. SPACE WOULD BE AN IDEAL PLACE FOR BID ME FAREWELL TO THIS FUCKED UP, CURSED, PESTILENCE PRISON PLANET. Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: http://www.techzonez.com/comments.php?shownews=14880 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/8e9140b2/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 23:02:54 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 23:02:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Politics subverts reality of global warming! In-Reply-To: <02f801c5bf20$8b45bff0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050922060254.91507.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> YEAH; THAT ARTICLE IS A CROCK OF SHIT; THOUGH I'D LIKE TO OWN AND DRIVE A LOTUS ESPRIT SPORTS CAR; (WHICH WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN), AS IT BRIEFLY MENTIONS A LOTUS, IN THE ARTICLE. THE LOTUS AND DELOREAN CARS ARE MY FAVORITE SPORTS CARS, ALTHOUGH I ALWAYS WANTED JOHN DELOREAN TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THE AERO-STYLING OF THE ORIGINAL DELOREAN, INTO THE SHAPE / STYLING OF THE MODERN LOTUS ESPRIT DESIGN. THE DMC 12 IS A CROSS DESIGN OF THE GENERAL MOTORS TRANS-AM, AND THE LOTUS ESPRIT. IN MY PAST RESEARCH, I LEARNED THAT THE SAME MAN WHO DREW UP THE DESIGN FOR THE DELOREAN DMC 12, ALSO DREW UP THE DESIGN FOR THE LOTUS ESPRIT. HERE ARE TWO WEBLINKS TO SHARE: http://www.leon83.com/leonpic/cars/lotus/Lotus_20Esprit_20V8_20-_2005.jpg http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/del.gif Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: And the technology they use has nothing to do with science! All they do is offset their pollution by purchasing carbon credits! -MB Renewable Ventures Signs Its First Fleet 'Certified Clean Car' Participant Tuesday September 13, 10:00 am ET Club Sportiva Will Neutralize CO2 Emissions from Its Fleet of Classic, Exotic Cars SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Just eight weeks after announcing its Certified Clean Car Emission Reduction Program at World Environment Day, Renewable Ventures LLC, a renewable energy project finance VC, today announced its first fleet partner in the program, Club Sportiva, the pioneer of timeshare access to classic sports cars. By participating in the Certified Clean Car program, Club Sportiva will offset the carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions of its entire fleet, making its classic and exotic automobiles carbon neutral. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050913/sftu008.html?.v=24 --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/d46bf93b/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 23:05:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 23:05:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS ESPRIT, AND THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12. In-Reply-To: <02f801c5bf20$8b45bff0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20050922060502.48562.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> THE LOTUS ESPRIT: http://www.leon83.com/leonpic/cars/lotus/Lotus_20Esprit_20V8_20-_2005.jpg THE DELOREAN D.M.C. 12: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/del.gif __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/7c11bf36/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 23:10:44 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 23:10:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Global Warming Threat In-Reply-To: <20050922000941.93579.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050922061044.62230.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Latest studies reported in New Scientist magazine show that Global Warming is a threat to the polar ice caps. What's new about that, you ask? The polar ice caps in question are not on Earth, but the next planet over, Mars. So we hominids are either guilty of a crime so heinous that it extends beyond our pitiful planet... RIGHT ON; LAUGHING! Or the sun is warming regardless of whatever we are doing. And there is nothing on earth that we can do to stop it. SEPERATE: GLOBAL WARMING AND GLOBAL COOLING, BOTH, HERE ON EARTH. CHAOTIC WEATHER PATTERNS, FROM MANKIND TAMPERING WITH MOTHER NATURE, HERE ON EARTH. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/fe4cd42e/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 21 23:33:05 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 21 23:33:19 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNFREE. In-Reply-To: <20050921210507.99623.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050922063305.55137.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > UNFREE: > > 1. FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE; > > 2. ENERGY DEPENDENCE; > > 3. CHEMICAL DEPENDENCE. > > NOW I CAN PLANILY SEE > HOW UNFREE THAT TULSA, > THAT OKLAHOMA, THAT > AMERICA, AND THAT THIS > ENTIRE PLANET ARE. But you have not compared this with the tyranny of life! We have to eat! YES. We can't be totally free if we have to eat several times a day, can we? NO. Ok, so we are only relatively free. Relative to what, you ask... Relative to the dictatorships, the old USSR, the Chinese communists and other governments who have thought police, who kill others for holding the wrong opinions. Relative to governments with 50% and higher tax rates that they use for "social services" which are dictated by the government, rather than the people who receive them. Relative to Theocracies where you must worship this or that God, and believe that you are one sorry SOB living on this imperfect planet. Here in America, you are free to believe what you wish, talk about it, and as long as it does not harm others, do things you want to do. And if you want to tell God to get lost, or think God is a She, or a Committee, or even insane, it's between you and God, not the thought police and the mullahs. That's what I like about America! It's FREE!!! AMERICA WOULD BE FREER FOR ME, IF I COULD GET PERMANENT PEACE IN MY LIFE. I FELL ASLEEP EARLIER, AND WOKE UP AT CLOSE TO 11:00 P.M. C.S.T, AND MY HEART BLOOD PRESSURE WAS HIGH; MY HEART FELT LIKE IT WANTED TO EXPLODE IN MY CHEST, BECAUSE HYPERTENSION IS SO GOD DAMNED HIGH, AND I CANNOT PERMAMENTLY RID MYSELF OF THAT HYPERTENSION STRESS THAT I FEEL, WITHOUT BEING A DRUG ADDICT ONCE AGAIN, TO CLONAZEPAM (KLONOPIN). I AM SICK OF CHEMISTRY, AND BEING AN DRUG ADDICT INSOMNIAC. LAST RESORT: ELECTROMECHANICAL RESONANCE, WITH A BACK MASSAGER NEXT MONTH. GOING TO COLORADO IS NEARLY OUT OF THE QUESTION, WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY RESOURCES, AND I'M HANDCUFFED TO A GO NOWHERE JOB THAT ALSO MAKES ME A PRISONER TO THIS FOREVER NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050921/8d347593/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 00:29:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 00:29:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: UNFREE; (SHORTENED AND REVISED). In-Reply-To: <20050922063305.55137.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050922072919.95892.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> (SHORTENED, AND REVISED:) That's what I like about America! It's FREE!!! AMERICA WOULD BE FREE'R FOR ME, IF I COULD GET PERMANENT PEACE IN MY LIFE. I FELL ASLEEP EARLIER, AND WOKE UP AT CLOSE TO 11:00 P.M. C.S.T, AND MY HEART BLOOD PRESSURE WAS HIGHER THAN HELL. MY HEART FELT LIKE IT WAS GOING TO EXPLODE IN MY CHEST. BECAUSE HYPERTENSION IS SO GODDAMNED HIGH, AND I CANNOT PERMAMENTLY RID MYSELF OF THE HYPERTENSION STRESS THAT I FEEL, WITHOUT BEING A DRUG ADDICT ONCE AGAIN, TO CLONAZEPAM (KLONOPIN). I AM SICK OF CHEMISTRY; CLONAZEPAM INCLUDED; AND AM SICK OF BEING AN INSOMNIAC DRUG ADDICT. LAST RESORT: ELECTROMECHANICAL RESONANCE, USING A HORIZONTAL (FLAT) BACK MASSAGER NEXT MONTH. GOING TO COLORADO IS NEARLY OUT OF THE QUESTION, WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY RESOURCES, AND I'M HANDCUFFED TO A GO NOWHERE JOB THAT ALSO MAKES ME A PRISONER TO THIS FOREVER NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL SLUM, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/7ecf41a2/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 22 01:25:51 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 22 01:25:55 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: UNFREE; (SHORTENED AND REVISED). In-Reply-To: <20050922072919.95892.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 22, 2005 12:29:19 AM Message-ID: <20050922082551.93934.qmail@mall-net.com> > That's what I like about America! It's FREE!!! > > AMERICA WOULD BE FREE'R FOR ME, IF I COULD GET PERMANENT > PEACE IN MY LIFE. > C.S.T, AND MY HEART BLOOD PRESSURE WAS HIGHER THAN HELL. MY HEART FELT LIKE IT WAS GOING TO EXPLODE IN MY CHEST. BECAUSE HYPERTENSION IS SO GODDAMNED HIGH, AND I CANNOT > PERMAMENTLY RID MYSELF OF THE HYPERTENSION STRESS > THAT I FEEL, WITHOUT BEING A DRUG ADDICT ONCE AGAIN, TO > CLONAZEPAM (KLONOPIN). Are you taking your blood pressure? What are the readings? Have you started looking up doctors on acam.org? > SUFFICIENT MONEY RESOURCES, AND I'M HANDCUFFED TO A GO > NOWHERE JOB THAT ALSO MAKES ME A PRISONER TO THIS FOREVER NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL SLUM, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. No one is holding you to that job, but you. Look for something better that you can do. If you don't look, you'll never find. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 02:07:39 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 02:07:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: UNFREE; (SHORTENED AND REVISED). In-Reply-To: <20050922082551.93934.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050922090739.20531.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Are you taking your blood pressure? NOT ON A CONSISTANT BASIS. I'VE WANTED TO GET MY OWN ELECTROCARDIOGRAM FOR A LONG TIME NOW, BUT CAN'T AFFORD ONE. What are the readings? WHEN I DO GET THE READINGS, MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS USUALLY EITHER NORMAL, OR IT IS LOW. MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS HIGH, AT MY LAST VISIT TO MY M.D. PHYSICIAN. Have you started looking up doctors on http://www.acam.org ? WELL; I JUST DID, AFTER YOU SENT THIS REPLY BACK, AND HERE'S WHAT I CAME UP WITH: http://www.acam.org/dr_search/index.php?q=74145&field=zip&submitted=1 > AND I'M HANDCUFFED TO A GO NOWHERE JOB THAT ALSO MAKES ME A PRISONER TO THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL SLUM, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. No one is holding you to that job, but you. Look for something better that you can do. If you don't look, you'll never find. I HAVE TO FIND GOOD HEALTHCARE FIRST AND FOREMOST, BOTH HERE IN 'TULSA' OKLAHOMA, AND THEN IN COLORADO 'OR IN MONTANA'. I SECOND, NEED TO FIND GOOD AND STABLE EMPLOYMENT IN COLORADO 'OR IN MONTANA'. LIFE HURTS SO MUCH AS IT IS NOW, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF CAN CONTINUE IN MY PERSISTANCE. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/a9975d39/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 03:13:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 03:13:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CORRECTION. In-Reply-To: <20050922092958.89294.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050922101319.65002.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> CORRECTION: > AN INFORMATIVE PAPER ALONG WITH TOM'S BRAND ALTERNATIVE TOOTHPASTE, THAT SHOWS THAT ADULT *PERIODONTITIS*; (NOT PERIODONTIS), MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, AND FATAL HEART ATTACKS. IT ALSO MENTIONS, AMONG SEVERAL OTHER TOPICS, THAT ADULT *PERIODONTITIS* MAY ALSO INCREASE THE RISK OF BRAIN STROKE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/845567c0/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 03:13:44 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 03:13:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOURCE: THE SURGEON GENERAL'S REPORT ON ORAL HEALTH; 2000. Message-ID: <20050922101344.99389.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> (EDITED AND REVISED FROM PAPER) SOURCE: THE SURGEON GENERAL'S REPORT ON ORAL HEALTH; 2000: 1. MOUTH: MANY SYSTEMATIC DISEASES AND CONDITIONS SHOW UP IN THE MOUTH, WHICH IS ALSO A PORTAL OF ENTRY FOR MICROBIAL INFECTIONS. SOME PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, CHEMO'THERAPIE'S, AND RADIO'THERAPIE'S HAVE ORAL 'SIDE' EFFECTS, SUCH AS DRY MOUTH, WHICH CAN COMPROMISE ORAL AND OVERALL HEALTH. 2. BRAIN: ADULT PERIODONTITIS MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF STROKE. 3. HEART: ADULT PERIODONTITIS MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE AND FATAL HEART ATTACKS. 4. SPINE AND BONES: LOSS OF BONE MASS; (OSTEOPENIA), MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH GUM DISEASE AND RELATED TOOTH LOSS. 5. REPRODUCTIVE TRACT: WOMEN WITH ADVANCED GUM DISEASE MAY BE MORE LIKELY TO GIVE BIRTH TO AN UNDERWEIGHT, OR PRE-TERM BABY. ALSO; ORAL MICROBES MAY CROSS THE PLACENTAL BARRIER, EXPOSING THE FETUS TO INFECTION. 6. LUNGS: INHALING BACTERIA FROM THE MOUTH AND THROAT MAY LEAD TO RESPIRATORY INFECTION. 7. KIDNEYS: DIABETICS ARE AT GREATER RISK FOR PERIODONTAL DISEASE; "CALLED: THE SIXTH COMPLICATION OF DIABETES." PERIODONTITIS MAY DISRUPT DIABETIC CONTROL, AND DOUBLES A DIABETIC'S LIKELIHOOD OF DEATH FROM HEART DISEASE, OR KIDNEY FAILURE. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/7f5e3139/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 22 03:14:22 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 22 03:14:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: UNFREE; (SHORTENED AND REVISED). In-Reply-To: <20050922090739.20531.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 22, 2005 02:07:39 AM Message-ID: <20050922101422.53220.qmail@mall-net.com> > Are you taking your blood pressure? > > NOT ON A CONSISTANT BASIS. > I'VE WANTED TO GET MY OWN ELECTROCARDIOGRAM FOR A LONG TIME > NOW, BUT CAN'T AFFORD ONE. EKG won't show you anything worth while without a lot of study. I took a short course on it decades ago. Forget the EKG, it's not applicable. Get a blood pressure cuff you can put around your arm at the elbow. The electric ones are generally worthless. Get one you pump up manually with the stethoscope so you can hear the actual sounds. Conventional blood pressure readings are taken as two numbers. I always look for a third in the middle, a change point where I can hear the blood not just knocking, but squirting. Take your blood pressure every day in the morning and after you come home from work. And maybe before bed time. Then see what changes the readings. You will find that your attitudes during the day have huge influence. You will learn how to run yourself for endurance, not anger or drama. I hope. I did, and it made a huge difference! My father ran for drama and push. He got high blood pressure. I started that way, saw what was happening when I started taking my blood pressure, and changed. > WHEN I DO GET THE READINGS, MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS USUALLY EITHER > NORMAL, OR IT IS LOW. Bingo! It's not always what you think. I wonder if it would help to drink more water. Or if you need more salt. I can't say. You can only experiment AFTER you have been taking your blood pressure for a week or two and noting it in a log book along with your foods and such. Low blood pressure can cause problems too. > MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS HIGH, AT MY LAST VISIT TO MY M.D. PHYSICIAN. White Coat Syndrome. Blood pressure at the office is usually high form the tension of meeting your doctor, the drive, etc. > Have you started looking up doctors on http://www.acam.org ? > > WELL; I JUST DID, AFTER YOU SENT THIS REPLY BACK, AND HERE'S WHAT I CAME UP WITH: > > http://www.acam.org/dr_search/index.php?q=74145&field=zip&submitted=1 You want an A, OME; allergy and orthomolecular medicine > > AND I'M HANDCUFFED TO A GO NOWHERE JOB THAT ALSO MAKES ME A PRISONER TO THIS FOREVER GO NOWHERE INDUSTRIAL SLUM, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. > > No one is holding you to that job, but you. Look for something > better that you can do. If you don't look, you'll never find. > > I HAVE TO FIND GOOD HEALTHCARE FIRST AND FOREMOST, BOTH HERE IN > 'TULSA' OKLAHOMA, AND THEN IN COLORADO 'OR IN MONTANA'. Nope. You have to give yourself good health care to avoid needing good health care from others. You have to be your own observer first, to hear what your body is complaining about. > I SECOND, NEED TO FIND GOOD AND STABLE EMPLOYMENT IN COLORADO > 'OR IN MONTANA'. Nope. You have to find the skills in yourself to be employable. There are no stable jobs for good people; only stable jobs for mediocre people, and not even then. Mediocre people get fired. Good people leave for better jobs after they have done the work, the project they set out to do at one company; they look for work elsewhere. The guy who never changes his job is just as big a looser as the guy who gets fired time after time. > LIFE HURTS SO MUCH AS IT IS NOW, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF CAN CONTINUE IN MY PERSISTANCE. Clyde, you are a misfit. I say that as a complement. If you try to fit yourself into where you don't fit, you will be ground up and broken. You need to find what you have a talent for, or are so interested in that you won't let go. THAT is what you can make yourself someone at. All the rest are just dead end jobs; some comfortable, but dead end jobs none the less. Clyde, you are someone. You just have to find people who need what you can do for them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 22 11:14:58 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 22 11:15:06 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOURCE: THE SURGEON GENERAL'S REPORT ON ORAL In-Reply-To: <20050922101344.99389.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 22, 2005 03:13:44 AM Message-ID: <20050922181458.21872.qmail@mall-net.com> > 1. MOUTH: > > MANY SYSTEMATIC DISEASES AND CONDITIONS SHOW > UP IN THE MOUTH, WHICH IS ALSO A PORTAL OF ENTRY > FOR MICROBIAL INFECTIONS. > SOME PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, CHEMO'THERAPIE'S, AND > RADIO'THERAPIE'S HAVE ORAL 'SIDE' EFFECTS, SUCH AS > DRY MOUTH, WHICH CAN COMPROMISE ORAL AND OVERALL > HEALTH. Yes. It's called sub-clinical scurvy. If you take enough vitamin C, most gum problems and similar collagen related problems such as heart attack, stroke, etc. markedly diminish. Most people do not have enough vitamin C, magnesium, and zinc. Increase those, and general health will rise dramatically. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 12:03:16 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 12:03:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: [exopolitics] New Citizen's Guide to FOIA released by US Congress. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050922190316.19620.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Dr Michael Salla wrote: My Groups | exopolitics Main Page Aloha, a new Citizen's Guide to the popular FOIA legislation in the US has been released by the US Congress. FOIA has been used by many UFO researchers to gain valuable information on UFOs held in various government agencies and military departments. Importantly, FOIA shifted bureacratic culture concerning government documents from an individual proving they have a "need to know" to the individual having a "right to know". This is important since it means that individuals have a right to know information concerning UFOs provided it doesn't fall into the nine exemption categories recognized by FOIA. Sweden was the first country to pass laws similar to FOIA (1766) and was followed by Columbia (1888) and Finland (1919). The US was the first country in the post war era to pass FOIA legislation in 1966. Other 'democracies' such as the Norway (1970) France (1978); Australia (1982); Canada (1983) and the United Kingdom (2000) have also passed FOIA equivalents. In authoritarian regions such as the Middle East, there is no equivalent to FOIA. So it should be acknowledged that FOIA is a bureacratic precedent established first in Northern Europe, and democratic nations such as the US that recognize the importance of citizens having access to government documents. In the US, the first exemption category for FOIA is national security which basically means that UFO information is exempt from FOIA if the release of it poses a threat to US national security. However, one of the common responses used by agencies and departments in claiming they don't have files/documents on UFOs is that UFOs do not pose a security threat, and hence have no interest in them. This is for example the attitude of the US Air Force that claims that after the closure of Project Blue in 1969, it no longer investigates UFOs. Some researchers such as Clifford Stone have shown through FOIA that this is not true and the Air Force continues to secretly investigate UFOs. Yet documents in agencies such as the NSA and CIA that do discuss UFOs are not released as organizations such as Citizens Against UFO Secrecy have shown in various lawsuits. So basically, agencies either deny having UFO documents; or if they acknowledge having UFO documents, they often don't release these on national security grounds. This points to a clear effort to frustrate the will of Congress which recognizes the citizen's "right to know". If UFOs are not a threat to national security, then agencies should clearly open up their files as FOIA makes clear. If UFOs are a national security threat, then while agencies may have the legal right to withold this informatiion, they should not disguise the reason for why this is done. If agencies have a reason to believe disclosure of UFO information poses a threat, then this should be publically acknowledged or at least overseen by legislative bodies such as the US Congress. The "right to know" presupposes an ability for the general public or its political representatives to maturely comprehend genuine national security threats, and not have these indefinitely withold by non-representative committees appointed by executive orders taht are hidden from the public realm. Basically, the public's "right to know" and the intent of the US Constitution is being frustrated by continued secrecy that keeps UFO information out of the public realm, and from Congressional oversight. Below are some portions of the Congressional Guide that outlines some of the FOIA concepts discussed above. In peace Michael E. Salla, PhD www.exopolitics.org **** Source: http://www.fas.org/sgp/foia/citizen.html ... The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) establishes a presumption that records in the possession of agencies and departments of the executive branch of the U.S. Government are accessible to the people. This was not always the approach to Federal information disclosure policy. Before enactment of the FOIA in 1966, the burden was on the individual to establish a right to examine these government records. There were no statutory guidelines or procedures to help a person seeking information. There were no judicial remedies for those denied access. With the passage of the FOIA, the burden of proof shifted from the individual to the government. Those seeking information are no longer required to show a need for information. Instead, the ``need to know'' standard has been replaced by a ``right to know'' doctrine. The government now has to justify the need for secrecy. The FOIA sets standards for determining which records must be disclosed and which records may be withheld. The law also provides administrative and judicial remedies for those denied access to records. Above all, the statute requires Federal agencies to provide the fullest possible disclosure of information to the public. The history of the act reflects that it is a disclosure law. It presumes that requested records will be disclosed, and the agency must make its case for withholding in terms of the act's exemptions to the rule of disclosure. ... F. REASONS ACCESS MAY BE DENIED UNDER THE FOIA An agency may refuse to disclose an agency record that falls within any of the FOIA's nine statutory exemptions. The exemptions protect against the disclosure of information that would harm national defense or foreign policy, privacy of individuals, proprietary interests of business, functioning of the government, and other important interests. A document that does not qualify as an ``agency record'' may be denied because only agency records are available under the FOIA. Personal notes of agency employees may be denied on this basis. However, most records in the possession of an agency are ``agency records'' within the meaning of the FOIA. ... When a record contains some information that qualifies as exempt, the entire record is not necessarily exempt. Instead, the FOIA specifically provides that any reasonably segregable portions of a record must be provided to a requester after the deletion of the portions that are exempt. This is a very important requirement because it prevents an agency from withholding an entire document simply because one line or one page is exempt. ... 1. Exemption 1.--Classified Documents The first FOIA exemption permits the withholding of properly classified documents. Information may be classified in the interest of national defense or foreign policy. The rules for classification are established by the President and not the FOIA or other law. The FOIA provides that, if a document has been properly classified under a Presidential Executive order, the document can be withheld from disclosure. Classified documents may be requested under the FOIA. An agency can review the document to determine if it still requires protection. In addition, the Executive order on security classification establishes a special procedure for requesting the declassification of documents.\28\ If a requested document is declassified, it can be released in response to a FOIA request. However, a document that is declassified may still be exempt under other FOIA exemptions.... --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "exopolitics" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: exopolitics-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/f29a2e97/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 22 12:03:32 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 22 12:03:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: WEBLINK FOR JOHN AND OTHERS. In-Reply-To: <20050922181458.21872.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050922190332.4143.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Yes. It's called sub-clinical scurvy. If you take enough vitamin C, most gum problems and similar collagen related problems such as heart attack, stroke, etc. markedly diminish. Most people do not have enough vitamin C, magnesium, and zinc. Increase those, and general health will rise dramatically. HERE IS A KRAFTWERK LYRICS WEBLINK TO SHARE, FOR ONE OF THEIR NEWEST SONGS, TITLED: VITAMIN: http://www.lyricsbox.com/kraftwerk-lyrics-vitamins-qfs25qf.html SINCERELY, CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050922/cdaaa3bb/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 22 23:46:08 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 22 23:46:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Politics subverts reality of global warming! In-Reply-To: <20050922060254.91507.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 21, 2005 11:02:54 PM Message-ID: <20050923064608.30416.qmail@mall-net.com> > YEAH; THAT ARTICLE IS A CROCK OF SHIT; > THOUGH I'D LIKE TO OWN AND DRIVE A > LOTUS ESPRIT SPORTS CAR; (WHICH WILL > PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN), AS IT BRIEFLY > MENTIONS A LOTUS, IN THE ARTICLE. > THE LOTUS AND DELOREAN CARS ARE MY > FAVORITE SPORTS CARS, ALTHOUGH I Talk about subverting... Sports cars are overpriced, uneconomical vehicles for general use. It's all a marketing ploy to take your money! In general, sports cars have a much higher death rate than general automobiles. The Corvette racks up one fatality per 55,000 miles. (Nature of driver more than nature of vehicle; but the vehicle does encourage speeding, etc.) When it comes to investing money in a sports car, one is far better off investing that money in bonds or in tools which will let you earn money. I remember when I lived in New Canaan, Connecticut. One would see large, very expensive homes. What kinds of cars would be sitting in the driveway? Old cars. These people would buy a new car and keep it for 20 years! They put their money into their homes and their suits, where they got far more out of it than a car. I remember where my father worked, the cleaning staff had newer, fancier cars than one would find in the executive parking area. Again, the executives knew what money was worth. I would always buy large older station wagons because I'd have to move a lot, being a consultant. I figured an older car wouldn't attract a lot of attention; and if it broke down, it was cheap enough that I could just junk it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 23 07:42:29 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 23 07:42:35 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SEARCH ENGINE 'TOPIC': NUCLEAR INDUCED TSUNAMIS. Message-ID: <20050923144229.17541.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> SEARCH ENGINE 'TOPIC': NUCLEAR INDUCED TSUNAMIS: http://www.rense.com/general61/earthquakestsunamisand.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NOTHING ABOUT VITAMINS AT THE MOMENT THOUGH. WORKING ON A TYPING REGARDING KLONAPIN / CLONAZEPAM THAT IS CURRENTLY SHELVED UNTIL AFTER I GET ENOUGH REST TO COMPLETE THAT PAPER. brain wave entrainment NOT ANYMORE AT THIS TIME, EXCEPT THAT I WAS WONDERING IF I SET MY AUDIO GEN. AT 14 HZ.; I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE, TO KNOW IF 14 HZ. ENTRAINMENT WILL DO ME BETTER, THAN 10 HZ. AND BELOW, LIKE I FIRST TRIED. ???? therapies, etc? AS FAR AS OTHER THERAPIES; CHIROPRACTIC, AND INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY. I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO TRACTION TABLE THERAPY RESEARCH A BIT MORE. Point is, you only have so much time. Looking for things to help you get better, making more money, etc. should have higher priority. I TYPED UP A 'VERY' CONTROVERSIAL PAPER EARLIER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD, BUT I MAY POST IT. MONEY IS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE, BUT, WELL THAT GETS INTO MORE CONTROVERSY AND CONSPIRACY CRAP. The stuff below all devolves into pages by people who have strong opinions not easily influenced by mere facts. TRUE. THE WEBLINKS THAT I SENT LAST NIGHT HAVE A LOT OF THAT TOO. BUT HAVE CERTAIN TOPICS OF ALARM, THAT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT. Science, objective thinking, etc. are all based upon facts. There are very few facts in papers related to those topics... Remember, the most important conspiracy to you, is the one that you head, the one for the advancement of Clyde Lofton in this world as a healthy, productive, money making guy. HEALTH, PRODUCTIVITY, AND MONEY MAKING ARE ALL THREE, TOPICS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. INFINITE OBSTACLES; NAMELY MONEY AS THE PRIME OBSTACLE, LIE IN THE WAY OF SUCCESS. I AM CRIPPLED, DISTRESSED, AND HAVING PANIC ATTACK AND CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION TROUBLE, DUE TO MONEY MATTERS. Some of us are peripheral members of this conspiracy. WHEN YOU SAY: PERIPHERAL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I HAVEN'T MADE THE WORD: PERIPHERAL, A PART OF MY MENTAL VOCABULARY DATABASE YET. I CAN LOOK IT UP AFTER MY INTERNET TIME IS UP, HERE AT THE LIBRARY. GOT 25 MINUTES OF INTERNET TIME AT THE LIBRARY REMAINING TODAY, AND I'M TIRED AFTER WORKING TODAY. I MAY GET ON THE HOME COMPUTER LATER, IF I'M NOT TOO TIRED. CLYDE -JVV- > INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS: > > 1. THE CRIMES OF JOHN PIERPONT MORGAN. > > 2. CHASE BANK SWASTICA; (SWASTIKA). > > 3. CHASE MANHATTEN BANK. > > 4. DEFRAUDING AMERICA. > > 5. AMERIKA. > > 6. AMERICA IS BANKRUPT. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050924/e68016b3/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 24 14:30:14 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 24 14:30:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS. In-Reply-To: <20050924193615.73909.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 24, 2005 12:36:15 PM Message-ID: <20050924213014.65331.qmail@mall-net.com> > Clyde, do you have more interesting topics to explore? Things more > pertinent to, say, vitamins and health, > HEALTH: YES; IF I CAN GET IT TYPED UP, AND READY TO SEND; > MORE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DENTAL AND ORAL HEALTH. I mean for yourself, not for us. > NOTHING ABOUT VITAMINS AT THE MOMENT THOUGH. Did you ever get the Medical Mavericks book? > brain wave entrainment > > NOT ANYMORE AT THIS TIME, EXCEPT THAT I WAS WONDERING IF I > SET MY AUDIO GEN. AT 14 HZ.; I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH > EXPERIENCE, TO KNOW IF 14 HZ. ENTRAINMENT WILL DO ME BETTER, > THAN 10 HZ. AND BELOW, LIKE I FIRST TRIED. ???? Somewhere around 12 hz is transcendental meditation. Which, in my opinion, is crap! Around 15 - 16, should be another thoughtful region. Slowly turn the dial up form about 7.8, and see what happens. But don't go over about 32, as near 30 you start to enter the epileptic region where, if you have any tendencies, it can trigger a seizure. I don't have the tendencies, so I don't have the problem. I don't know if you do, hence the warning. > Point is, you only have so much time. Looking for things to help > you get better, making more money, etc. should have higher priority. > > > I TYPED UP A 'VERY' CONTROVERSIAL PAPER EARLIER, BUT I DON'T KNOW > IF IT WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD, BUT I MAY POST IT. > > MONEY IS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE, BUT, WELL THAT GETS INTO MORE CONTROVERSY AND CONSPIRACY CRAP. I'm a little short too... > THE WEBLINKS THAT I SENT LAST NIGHT HAVE A LOT OF THAT TOO. > BUT HAVE CERTAIN TOPICS OF ALARM, THAT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT. Can we do anything about it? No. So don't worry about it. Worry about things you CAN do! And do them to the best results you can get. > Science, objective thinking, etc. are all based upon facts. There are very few facts in > papers related to those topics... > > Remember, the most important conspiracy to you, is the one that you > head, the one for the advancement of Clyde Lofton in this world as a > healthy, productive, money making guy. > > > > HEALTH, PRODUCTIVITY, AND MONEY MAKING ARE ALL THREE, TOPICS > THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. > > INFINITE OBSTACLES; NAMELY MONEY AS THE PRIME OBSTACLE, LIE IN > THE WAY OF SUCCESS. If oyu think the obstacles are infinite, you will not work as hard as if you think there are few obstacles. And there are relatively few obstacles. > I AM CRIPPLED, DISTRESSED, AND HAVING PANIC ATTACK AND CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION TROUBLE, DUE TO MONEY MATTERS. A friend found that his panic attacks were all due to soda. Aspartame / Nutrasweet. Another friend drinks the stuff without any problems. I got some neurological symptoms when I tried it. Different people are different. > Some of us are peripheral members of this conspiracy. > > WHEN YOU SAY: PERIPHERAL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? On the outer edges of your conspiracy to do better. We're breathing your way; but not huddled around your table. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 24 21:29:49 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 24 21:30:04 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS. In-Reply-To: <20050924213014.65331.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050925042949.40130.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Clyde, do you have more interesting topics to explore? Things more > pertinent to, say, vitamins and health, HERE ARE THREE HEALTH TOPICS WEBLINKS: http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/flouride090105.cfm http://www.tomsofmaine.com http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 > HEALTH: YES; IF I CAN GET IT TYPED UP, AND READY TO SEND; > MORE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DENTAL AND ORAL HEALTH. I mean for yourself, not for us. AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK THAT I DO, OTHER THAN CONTROVERSIAL, AND FRINGE CONSPIRATORIAL CRAP. > NOTHING ABOUT VITAMINS AT THE MOMENT THOUGH. Did you ever get the Medical Mavericks book? NO. MONEY IS SO GODDAMNED FINITE, AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER, BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIORITIES, BUT WHICH REMAIN ON A SHELF, DUE TO LACK-O-MONEY; (WHICH I PREFER TO CALL: ANTIMONEY.). THE ROCHE APPLIED SCIENCE BIOCHEMICAL PATHWAYS CHARTS ARE ONE EXAMPLE. I STILL WANT TO GET THOSE, TO POST ON MY WALL. > brain wave entrainment > > NOT ANYMORE AT THIS TIME, EXCEPT THAT I WAS WONDERING IF I > SET MY AUDIO GEN. AT 14 HZ.; I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH > EXPERIENCE, TO KNOW IF 14 HZ. ENTRAINMENT WILL DO ME BETTER, > THAN 10 HZ. AND BELOW, LIKE I FIRST TRIED. ???? Somewhere around 12 hz is transcendental meditation. Which, in my opinion, is crap! Around 15 - 16, should be another thoughtful region. OK. I STILL HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS THOUGH WITH SOME COMPANY AT HAND, WHEN I OPERATE AT THOSE FREQUENCIES, BECAUSE I STILL CANNOT AFFORD AN ELECTROMECHANICAL SHUTOFF TIMER. PURCHASING AN ELECTROMECHANICAL CONTROL TIMER IS ON A SHELF UNTIL NEXT MONTH, AND MY FRIEND WHO WAS WITH ME DURING THE FIRST TEST, IS CURRENTLY OUT OF TOWN, ON TRAVEL. Slowly turn the dial up form about 7.8, and see what happens. But don't go over about 32, as near 30 you start to enter the epileptic region where, if you have any tendencies, it can trigger a seizure. WELL; WITHOUT THIS DAMNED HIGHLY ADDICTIVE DRUG THAT I AM HAVING TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE: CLONAZEPAM; JUST BEING AROUND THE 60 CYCLE LOW VOLTAGE WIRING IN THIS RESIDENCE, NOT TO MENTION ALL OF MY STUDIO EQUIPMENT, AND ALL OTHER 60 CYCLE FIELDS, ARE ENOUGH TO GIVE ME BORDERLINED SEIZURE SYMPTOMS, APART FROM THE OTHER ENTRAINMENT; FROM THE AUDIO GEN. AND HELMET E.M. B-WAVE ENRAINMENT. I don't have the tendencies, so I don't have the problem. I don't know if you do, hence the warning. OK. > Point is, you only have so much time. Looking for things to help > you get better, making more money, etc. should have higher priority. > > > I TYPED UP A 'VERY' CONTROVERSIAL PAPER EARLIER, BUT I DON'T KNOW > IF IT WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD, BUT I MAY POST IT. I WILL SEND THIS PAPER THAT I DESCRIBED, AFTER I SEND THIS REPLY POSTING. > MONEY IS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE, BUT, WELL THAT GETS INTO MORE CONTROVERSY AND CONSPIRACY CRAP. I'm a little short too... IN RELATION TO MONEY: http://namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?MORGAN_JOHN_PIERPONT%20%28%31%38%33%37%2D%31%39%31%33%29 http://www.namebase.org/main2/Federal-Reserve-System.html http://www.angelfire.com/dc/undersiege/usa.html http://www.estreet.com/business/cpm/FederalReserve.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes%3Bread=55495 http://www.rumormillnews.com/WHO_OWNS_FED.htm http://www.sonic.net/~doretk/Issues/00-12%20Winter/chaseman.html http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/05-government/E-new-world-order/2004/05E-03-31-04-chase-manhattans-right-wing-relationship.html > THE WEBLINKS THAT I SENT LAST NIGHT HAVE A LOT OF THAT TOO. > BUT HAVE CERTAIN TOPICS OF ALARM, THAT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT. Can we do anything about it? No. So don't worry about it. THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. I HOPE I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ARTERY DAMAGE, AND HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. Worry about things you CAN do! WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY, AND LIKEWISE; WITHOUT SUFFICIENT RESOURCES, I CAN DO VERY LITTLE. And do them to the best results you can get. OK; I DO TRY, WITH WHAT VERY LITTLE RESOURCES THAT I'VE GOT; WITH HAVING TO TRY TO COPE WITH THE OVERWHELMING OVERKILL STRESS THAT THE LACK OF RESOURCES BRINGS. > Science, objective thinking, etc. are all based upon facts. There are very few facts in papers related to those topics... > > Remember, the most important conspiracy to you, is the one that you > head, the one for the advancement of Clyde Lofton in this world as a > healthy, productive, money making guy. > > HEALTH, PRODUCTIVITY, AND MONEY MAKING ARE ALL THREE, TOPICS > THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. > > INFINITE OBSTACLES; NAMELY MONEY AS THE PRIME OBSTACLE, LIE IN > THE WAY OF SUCCESS. If you think the obstacles are infinite, you will not work as hard as if you think there are few obstacles. And there are relatively few obstacles. THERE ARE OBSTACLES AT EVERY TURN OF THE WAY IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM SHITHOLE WASTELAND, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA; INFINITE OBSTACLES. POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE! ; AND ALL POLITICIANS ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS. I HATE ALL POLITICIANS NOW: DEMOCRAPS AND REFUCKLICANS. THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO START OVER, WITH A COUP, OR SOMETHING. > I AM CRIPPLED, DISTRESSED, AND HAVING PANIC ATTACK AND CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION TROUBLE, DUE TO MONEY MATTERS. A friend found that his panic attacks were all due to soda. I'VE QUIT DRINKING SODA POP, FOR THE MOST PART, FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND EVERY TIME THAT I DRINK CARBONATED DRINKS NOW; THE SLIGHTEST INTAKE, AND IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE VOMITING. WASN'T IT YOU, IN A PAST POSTING WHO SAID THAT TOO MUCH CARBONATED DRINK INTAKE, LEADS, OR CAN LEAD, TO HEART ATTACKS? Aspartame / Nutrasweet. GARGAGE! ABSOLUTE JUNK FOOD! I PURCHASED SOME RAW CANE SUGAR FROM ONE OF THE LOCAL HEALTH FOOD STORES, HERE IN TULSA, A COUPLE OF MONTH'S AGO. ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T USED IT MUCH IN ANY OF THE FOOD THAT I'VE HAD, SINCE I GO OUT TO EAT MOST OF THE TIME. Another friend drinks the stuff without any problems. I got some neurological symptoms when I tried it. Different people are different. YEAH; TO ME; ASPARTAME AND NUTRASWEET ARE JUST COMMERICIALISM CRAP; WORTHLESS JUNK FOOD SUBSTANCE. > Some of us are peripheral members of this conspiracy. > > WHEN YOU SAY: PERIPHERAL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? On the outer edges of your conspiracy to do better. We're breathing your way; but not huddled around your table. OK. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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SEXUAL IMMORALITY WAS NEVER MY WILL; AND SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS STILL NOT MY WILL, TO THIS DAY. I CAN PLAY THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, BUT I PREFER CHRIST'S ADVOCACY, AND THE PEACE THAT CHRIST'S ADVOCACY BRINGS. NOT ONLY DO THE SAME FUCKER POWER KONTROLLERS WHO BE, KONTROL THE KOMMUNIST SEXUAL IMMORALITY ON THE INTERNET, ALONG WITH WHAT IS SENT OUT, ON THE BROADKAST MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX AIRWAVES; SATELLITE NETWORKS; KABLE NETWORKS, ETC.... ; THEY KONTROL THE CORRUPT, EVIL, FINANCIAL INFRASTRUCTURES; (INTRAFUCKTURES), THEY KONTROL THE LAW, THEY KONTROL THE CORRUPT, AND IN MANY CASES; EVIL PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX DIKTATORSHIP, AND THEY EQUALLY KONTROL THE STRANGLEHOLD SUPPRESSION ON ALL OF THE PROMISING ESOTERIC ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH WILL SAVE ALL OF US, FROM THE OIL CATASTROPHE THAT IS UPON US. CLYDE LOFTON __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050924/cddcfc79/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 24 21:53:22 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 24 21:53:31 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THIS PAPER CAN BRING BOTH GOOD, AND BAD. In-Reply-To: <20050925043602.42002.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 24, 2005 09:36:02 PM Message-ID: <20050925045323.77429.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE SAME FUCKERS WHO KONTROL THE ELEKTRICAL > POWER GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION INTRAFUCKTURES, > AND THE BROADKAST MEDIA KONTROL KOMPLEXES, > ARE THE VERY SAME ONE'S WHO KONTROL INTERNET > IMMORALITY, AND ALL OF THE FLOW OF ITS CHILD > PORNOGRAPHY, AND EVERY OTHER FORM OF IMMORAL > DISTRIBUTION; (DISTRI-FUCKTION). No evidence of such. Most of the spread of porno is done by spammers who are more and more contracting virus writers to buy knocked over machines to turn into porn servers. We had to decontaminate one of our client's machines. He hadn't used a firewall. There were porn files all over the machine, in places where no one like him would ever think of saving porno! Systems areas, dark places on one but a virus hacker would crawl. The forces of evil? Nah. Some folks just want porno. Evil is in Thailand, where kids are forced into it by parents who want the money. And where the typical customer is a white male visiting from Europe or America. That, is evil! Or is it? Starvation kills, or STDs kill. By sacrificing one child, money is gained to save others. Evil? By our definitions, yes. By theirs? "Hard choices" which prolong life. I think it is evil and corrupt. But some time ago, the government was turning a blind eye toward it, and our tourist industry does take some advantage of it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Sep 24 21:58:49 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Sep 24 21:58:55 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS; (REVISED). Message-ID: <20050925045849.94383.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS; (REVISED): 1. THE CRIMES OF JOHN PIERPONT MORGAN. 2. CHASE MANHATTAN BANK SYMBOL. 3. CHASE MANHATTAN BANK SYMBOL + SWASTIKA. 4. CHASE MANHATTAN BANK 'SWASTICA' (SYMBOL). 5. CHASE MANHATTAN BANK. 6. DEFRAUDING AMERICA. 7. AMERIKA. 8. AMERICA IS BANKRUPT. 9. BANKRUPT AMERICA. 10. WHO OWNS THE FEDERAL RESERVE? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050924/ef25feae/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Sep 24 23:51:36 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Sep 24 23:51:48 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS. In-Reply-To: <20050925042949.40130.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 24, 2005 09:29:49 PM Message-ID: <20050925065136.39201.qmail@mall-net.com> > Did you ever get the Medical Mavericks book? > > > NO. > > MONEY IS SO GODDAMNED FINITE, AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER, BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIORITIES, BUT WHICH REMAIN ON A SHELF, DUE TO LACK-O-MONEY; (WHICH I PREFER TO CALL: ANTIMONEY.). > THE ROCHE APPLIED SCIENCE BIOCHEMICAL PATHWAYS CHARTS ARE ONE > EXAMPLE. You're not the only one short, Clyde. > Somewhere around 12 hz is transcendental meditation. Which, in my > opinion, is crap! Around 15 - 16, should be another thoughtful region. > > OK. > > I STILL HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS THOUGH WITH SOME COMPANY AT HAND, WHEN I OPERATE AT THOSE FREQUENCIES, BECAUSE I STILL CANNOT AFFORD AN ELECTROMECHANICAL SHUTOFF TIMER. > PURCHASING AN ELECTROMECHANICAL CONTROL TIMER IS ON A SHELF UNTIL NEXT MONTH, AND MY FRIEND WHO WAS WITH ME DURING THE FIRST TEST, IS CURRENTLY OUT OF TOWN, ON TRAVEL. Not that bad an idea. > Slowly turn the dial up form about 7.8, and see what happens. But > don't go over about 32, as near 30 you start to enter the epileptic > region where, if you have any tendencies, it can trigger a seizure. > WELL; WITHOUT THIS DAMNED HIGHLY ADDICTIVE DRUG THAT I AM HAVING TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE: CLONAZEPAM; JUST BEING AROUND THE 60 CYCLE LOW VOLTAGE WIRING IN THIS RESIDENCE, NOT TO MENTION ALL > OF MY STUDIO EQUIPMENT, AND ALL OTHER 60 CYCLE FIELDS, ARE ENOUGH TO GIVE ME BORDERLINED SEIZURE SYMPTOMS, APART FROM THE OTHER ENTRAINMENT; FROM THE AUDIO GEN. AND HELMET E.M. B-WAVE ENRAINMENT. Interesting... Apparently some EMF sensitivity. I really think you are likely badly mis-diagnosed; but only some of the Orthomedical types would be looking at what is really going on. The rest figure just put him on "that stuff" and get on to the next patient. > > MONEY IS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE, BUT, WELL THAT GETS INTO MORE CONTROVERSY AND CONSPIRACY CRAP. Most people don't use calculators and spreadsheets to figure things out, even when they have them available. If oyu run a stable, well planned life, you can take advantage of things that build over the years. However, many people don't live those kind of stable lives, so need to rely on liquidity more than long term yields. there's a lot of controversy on the Federal Reserve System. Most people don't understand it. Many are looking for excuses for their own failures. What I have seen, is that when people start talking about conspiracies, they get fired. Why? Because that creates fear in other employees, and thus reduces their productivity. If you believe there is a conspiracy, you basically end up believing that you can't succeed, and thus stop trying. I've seen it happen several times. If you don't believe you can succeed, then you are right. But if you believe you can succeed, and put mind and muscle to work trying, then you are probably right as well. > Can we do anything about it? No. So don't worry about it. > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. As I said, get the sphygmomanometer, the blood pressure cuff rig. You may find that you don't have high blood pressure. It may be low, or may be high. You need to know which, so you can take appropriate action. > I HOPE I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ARTERY DAMAGE, > AND HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ Saved my father's life. > WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY, AND LIKEWISE; WITHOUT SUFFICIENT RESOURCES, I CAN DO VERY LITTLE. A lot more than we think! > OK; I DO TRY, WITH WHAT VERY LITTLE RESOURCES THAT I'VE GOT; WITH HAVING TO TRY TO COPE WITH THE OVERWHELMING OVERKILL STRESS THAT THE LACK OF RESOURCES BRINGS. It does bring some stress. But consider, I am living in a cabin in the woods. Money and auto problems bring a LOT of stress. My father had high blood pressure much of his life. Yet my blood pressure is usually average to low. Why? because of my general attitude toward life. I laugh instead of cursing. I investigate instead of cursing. I find many things funny, especially myself. Laugher is good medicine. > > INFINITE OBSTACLES; NAMELY MONEY AS THE PRIME OBSTACLE, LIE IN > > THE WAY OF SUCCESS. > > If you think the obstacles are infinite, you will not work as hard > as if you think there are few obstacles. And there are relatively few > obstacles. > THERE ARE OBSTACLES AT EVERY TURN OF THE WAY IN THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUM SHITHOLE WASTELAND, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA; INFINITE OBSTACLES. There are obstacles everywhere. You grow by climbing over them. > POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE! ; > AND ALL POLITICIANS ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS. Not true. They are trying to represent the most popular views. As scientists, we know more than they do; but all too often, we don't take into consideration the average person's needs, and the consequences of it all. > THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO START OVER, WITH A COUP, OR SOMETHING. The economic losses in something like that would be incredible! That is the worst thing that could happen to America, short of some nation nuking us. > I'VE QUIT DRINKING SODA POP, FOR THE MOST PART, FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND EVERY TIME THAT I DRINK CARBONATED DRINKS NOW; THE SLIGHTEST INTAKE, AND IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE VOMITING. Interesting... > WASN'T IT YOU, IN A PAST POSTING WHO SAID THAT TOO MUCH CARBONATED DRINK INTAKE, LEADS, OR CAN LEAD, TO HEART ATTACKS? No. Unlikely to be true, unless you are talking about a gallon or more. But, aspartame CAN cause cardiovascular problems. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 11:59:40 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 11:59:50 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS. In-Reply-To: <20050925065136.39201.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050925185940.5549.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Did you ever get the Medical Mavericks book? > > > NO. > MONEY IS SO GODDAMNED FINITE, AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PRIORITIES, BUT WHICH REMAIN ON A SHELF, DUE TO LACK-O-MONEY; (WHICH I PREFER TO CALL: ANTIMONEY.). > THE ROCHE APPLIED SCIENCE BIOCHEMICAL PATHWAYS CHARTS ARE ONE EXAMPLE. You're not the only one short, Clyde. GODDAMNIT; CAUSE I'VE STILL GOTTA GET ONE OF THOSE HALF MASKS AS WELL, THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT HOME DEPOT SELLS. I WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL FRIDAY AFTERNOON, AT INSTALLING AN H.E.P.A. AIR FILTER IN THE CEILING AIR CONDITIONING AIR INTAKE. THE FUCKING DUCTS ARE STILL AS DIRTY AS ALL HELL THOUGH, WITH NO HOPE OF ATTAINING ENOUGH MONEY RESOURCES TO MAKE GETTING THE DUCTS CLEANED OUT, INTO A REALITY. > WELL; WITHOUT THIS DAMNED HIGHLY ADDICTIVE DRUG THAT I AM HAVING TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE: CLONAZEPAM; JUST BEING AROUND THE 60 CYCLE LOW VOLTAGE WIRING IN THIS RESIDENCE, NOT TO MENTION ALL OF MY STUDIO EQUIPMENT, AND ALL OTHER 60 CYCLE FIELDS, ARE ENOUGH TO GIVE ME BORDERLINED SEIZURE SYMPTOMS, APART FROM THE OTHER ENTRAINMENT; FROM THE AUDIO GEN. AND HELMET E.M. B-WAVE ENRAINMENT. Interesting... Apparently some EMF sensitivity. YES; DEFINATELY E.M.F. SENSITIVITY; AND ALSO TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE PHOTONIC ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, PRODUCED BY POWERED FLOURESCENT LIGHTING. I really think you are likely badly mis-diagnosed; but only some of the Orthomedical types would be looking at what is really going on. The rest figure just put him on "that stuff" and get on to the next patient. YEAH; MAJORLY MISDIAGNOSED, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE. AND YEAH; THE ASSHOLE AND DUMBASS DOCTORS AND THEIR BIMBO DUMBASS NURSES; LIKE MY BIMBO DUMBASS NURSE MOM, HAVE THEMSELVES ARROGANTLY AND OBSINANTLY CONVINCED, THAT PHARMACOLOGY IS THE BE ALL-END ALL FOR EVERYTHING AND FOR EVERY TROUBLE; (KHEMIKAL KLOAK-ISM). THEY ALSO DISCOUNT ALL OF THE EVIL CORRUPTION THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEX, AND EQUALLY; IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES, AND IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES). I FUCKING HATE ALLOPATHISM-ALLOPATHOLOGY NOW, AND THE PHARMACOLOGY PILL PUSHING INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMMUNIST KRAP DIKTATORSHIP OVER IT ALL. > > MONEY IS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE, BUT, WELL THAT GETS INTO MORE CONTROVERSY AND CONSPIRACY CRAP. Most people don't use calculators and spreadsheets to figure things out, even when they have them available. If you run a stable, well planned life, you can take advantage of things that build over the years. However, many people don't live those kind of stable lives, so need to rely on liquidity more than long term yields. WELL I'VE HAD MY LIFE PLANNED OUT FOR A LONG TIME NOW; WHAT I WANT, AND WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH IT. FINANCIAL IMPEDENCE IS AN INFINITE GRANITE WALL; NOT A BRICK WALL; A SOLID GRANITE WALL; INFINITELY THICK. THE TOTALITARIAN BANKING INTRAFUCKTURE OWNS THE FASCIST KOMMUNIST EDUKATIONAL SYSTEM; (SHYTSTEM); AND THE MEDIA AND ENERGY KOMMUNISM FUCKPLEXES TOO. There's a lot of controversy on the Federal Reserve System. YEAH; AS I SENT MANY WEBLINKS TO MUCH OF THOSE TOPICS, YESTERDAY NIGHT. Most people don't understand it. Many are looking for excuses for their own failures. I NEED AN ANGEL PHILANTHROPIST INVESTOR, IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE TO FIND ONE; BUT I'VE LOST MY MIND SO BADLY, THAT AN ANGEL BENEFACTOR MIGHT NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH ME, BECAUSE OF THE TROUBLES ('IN / OF MY 'LIFE'); I HAVE REACHED MADNESS, AND AT TIMES, HAVE TRANSCENDED THE MADNESS, BUT I WANT TO PERMANENTLY-PEACEFULLY-PERMANENTLY TRANSCEND ALL OF THE ENDLESS CEASELESS SENSELESS NONSENSE, OF THIS GODDAMNED CRAZY WORLD, AND THE MADNESS THAT IT HAS ALL DRIVEN ME TO. What I have seen, is that when people start talking about conspiracies, they get fired. Why? Because that creates fear in other employees, and thus reduces their productivity. If you believe there is a conspiracy, you basically end up believing that you can't succeed, and thus stop trying. I've seen it happen several times. OK. If you don't believe you can succeed, then you are right. YES; WELL I BELIEVE THAT I CAN SUCCEED. BUT HOW AM I GOING TO MOVE A PIKES PEAK TYPE OF MOUNTAIN, TO A PLACE LIKE: LINCOLN NEBRASKA, AND DO IT PEACEFULLY, AND PERFECTLY, IN HARMONY, INSTEAD OF CONSTANT FRANTIC DISCORD, AND NUCLEAR BLASTS OF ANGER OVERLOAD? But if you believe you can succeed, and put mind and muscle to work trying, then you are probably right as well. YES. > Can we do anything about it? No. So don't worry about it. > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. As I said, get the sphygmomanometer, the blood pressure cuff rig. SPHYGMOMANOMETERS ARE ONE DIMENSIONAL INSTRUMENTS, RELATIVE TO ELEKTOCARDIOGRAMS. You may find that you don't have high blood pressure. It may be low, or may be high. You need to know which, so you can take appropriate action. I DO KNOW WHICH: DRASTIC VACCUM ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS; TRANSLATION: DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, RELATIVE TO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS. I'M ALSO PRETTY WELL CERTAIN TOO, THAT I HAVE HIGH BODY ACIDITY, AND AM SUFFERING LIKE HELL BECAUSE OF IT. KEVIN TRUDEAU'S BOOK IS DAMN GOOD; THE BEST ALTERNATIVE HEALTH BOOK THAT I HAVE READ INTO: http://www.naturalcures.com > I HOPE I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ARTERY DAMAGE, > AND HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ Saved my father's life. > WITHOUT SUFFICIENT MONEY, AND LIKEWISE; WITHOUT SUFFICIENT RESOURCES, I CAN DO VERY LITTLE. A lot more than we think! I NEED PEACE, MOST OF ALL, IN MY LIFE..! PEACE, IN MIND, HEART, BODY, SOUL, AND IN SPIRIT, ETC.... > OK; I DO TRY, WITH WHAT VERY LITTLE RESOURCES THAT I'VE GOT; WITH HAVING TO TRY TO COPE WITH THE OVERWHELMING OVERKILL STRESS THAT THE LACK OF RESOURCES BRINGS. It does bring some stress. NOT SOME STRESS FOR ME; A MOUNTAINLOAD OF STRESS FOR ME. But consider, I am living in a cabin in the woods. Money and auto problems bring a LOT of stress. YEP; THOSE FACTORS ARE WHAT ARE GIVING ME MOUNTAINLOADS OF STRESS: MONEY AND AUTO; AND I AM FORCED TO LIVE IN THE SHITTY. My father had high blood pressure much of his life. Yet my blood pressure is usually average to low. Why? because of my general attitude toward life. I laugh instead of cursing. I investigate instead of cursing. I find many things funny, especially myself. Laugher is good medicine. I AGREE ABOUT LAUGHTER BEING A GOOD MEDICINE. A PROBLEMATIC PAST, AND TOO MUCH SERIOUS FOCUS ON A FUTURE THAT I CANNOT HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER, ARE GIVING ME STRESS OVERLOAD. > > INFINITE OBSTACLES; NAMELY MONEY AS THE PRIME OBSTACLE, LIE IN > > THE WAY OF SUCCESS. > > If you think the obstacles are infinite, you will not work as hard as if you think there are few obstacles. And there are relatively few obstacles. > THERE ARE OBSTACLES AT EVERY TURN OF THE WAY IN THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUM SHITHOLE WASTELAND, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA; INFINITE OBSTACLES. There are obstacles everywhere. You grow by climbing over them. I CAN CLIMB MOUNTAINS; I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, AND WILL DO IT AGAIN, IF IMPEDENCE DOESN'T STOP ME FROM DOING IT. PEOPLE LIVING IN TULSA ARE FOR THE MOST PART; MISERABLE, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. PERMANENT PROGRESSION IN THIS SLUM-SHITHOLE-CESSPOOL-LAND, OF EVER-NEVERENDING-ANTI-PROGRESS, MAKE MOST PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, MISERABLE; THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE JUST NORTH OF THIS RESIDENCE ARE PRIME EXAMPLES OF THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE. AS A FRIEND OF MINE SAID ONE TIME, IN AN E-MAIL REPLY: PEOPLE IN TULSA ALWAYS SEEM TO BE ANGRY; PROBABLY BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE METH AND STREET DRUG SHIT THAT GOES ON IN THIS SLUMLAND WASTELAND, OF FOREVER NO-PERMANENT PROGRESS. > POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE! ; > AND ALL POLITICIANS ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS. Not true. I DISAGREE. They are trying to represent the most popular views. WHO ARE THEY??? THE GREEDY WARMONGERING NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY PERVERTED NEOLIB'S? THEY ARE EQUALLY THE REASON WHY WE ARE ALL SUFFERING! As scientists, we know more than they do; but all too often, we don't take into consideration the average person's needs, and the consequences of it all. WELL; LIKE HEALTHCARE; WHICH IS ACTUALLY BETTER DESCRIBED IN THE PRESENT STATE AS: HEALTHSCARE! I TALKED FOR A SHORT WHILE THIS MORNING, TO A RETIRED NURSE, AND SHE WAS A VERY FRIENDLY LADY WHO AGREES AT HOW CORRUPT AND EVIL THAT PHARMACOLOGY IS, BEHIND THE SCENES. SHE SAID THE SAME WARNING THAT I HAVE HEARD BEFORE: ANYONE GOING INTO A HOSPITAL HAD BETTER KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, WHAT IS GOING ON, AND WHAT WILL BE GOING ON, BECAUSE THEY WILL EASILY MISDIAGNOSE, AND KILL PATIENTS IN AN INSTANT, IF THE ACTIONS OF THE DOCTORS OF THE SERPENTS IN THE TREE OF LIFE; (THE CADUCEUS DOCTOR'S), ARE NOT MONITORED CLOSELY, TO HAVE TWO WAY COMMUNICATION, BETWEEN DOCTOR'S AND PATIENT'S. > THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO START OVER, WITH A COUP, OR SOMETHING. The economic losses in something like that would be incredible! That is the worst thing that could happen to America, short of some nation nuking us. THE GREEDY WARMONGERING (AND HUSH HUSH BEHIND THE SCENES PERVERT) NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY AND PERVERTED NEOLIB'S, ARE EQUALLY TEARING THIS COUNTRY APART. THIS COUNTRY NEED A COUP..! I USED TO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE AN EASY ENERGY TECHNOLOGY REVOLUTION; I NOW SEE THAT BLOODSHED WOULD OCCUR , IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. THE NEOCON'S WANT THEIR FOSSIL FUELS, AND THEIR INFERNAL FUCKUPTION ENGINES, AND THE NEOLIB'S WANT THEIR 'PIE IN THE SKY' ESOTERIC SUPPRESSED ENERGY ALTERNATIVES, AND THEIR INTERNET CHILD PORN. I'M SO SICK OF IT ALL. I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS CURSED, FUCKED PLANET, BEFORE IT GOES UP IN NUCLEAR SMOKE. I NEED AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN, SLEEPING GAS, AND MORPHINE. > I'VE QUIT DRINKING SODA POP, FOR THE MOST PART, FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND EVERY TIME THAT I DRINK CARBONATED DRINKS NOW; THE SLIGHTEST INTAKE, AND IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE VOMITING. Interesting... > WASN'T IT YOU, IN A PAST POSTING WHO SAID THAT TOO MUCH CARBONATED DRINK INTAKE, LEADS, OR CAN LEAD, TO HEART ATTACKS? No. Unlikely to be true, unless you are talking about a gallon or more. OK. But, aspartame CAN cause cardiovascular problems. ASPARTAME IS GARBAGE SALES TO CONSUMERISM. LATER; CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/998da07c/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 12:29:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 12:29:59 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CARDIOVASCULAR STRESS. In-Reply-To: <20050925065136.39201.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050925192925.29230.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. As I said, get the sphygmomanometer, the blood pressure cuff rig. SPHYGMOMANOMETERS ARE ONE DIMENSIONAL INSTRUMENTS, RELATIVE TO ELEKTROCARDIOGRAMS. You may find that you don't have high blood pressure. It may be low, or may be high. You need to know which, so you can take appropriate action. I DO KNOW WHICH: DRASTIC VACCUUM ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS; TRANSLATION: DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, RELATIVE TO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS. A GOOD DEPICTION OF A HEART UNDER STRESS, AT THE BELOW WEBLINK ; ALLUDING TO GREEN DAY'S SONG'S: AMERICAN IDIOT; HOLIDAY; AND; BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS: http://www.art.com/asp/sp.asp?PD=10314303&RFID=346898&engine=sitematch LIKE BAND FRONTMAN: BILLY JOE ARMSTRONG SAID, IN CONCERT: FUCK ALL POLITICIANS..! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THIS FUCKED COUNTRY NEEDS A COUP..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/4291d74c/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Sep 25 12:41:30 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Sep 25 12:41:40 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde Message-ID: <75.4e338bd3.3068576a@aol.com> Clyde, have you ever been part of a support group ??? Not the ones run by professional folks, just a group of people who share your pain ? My family (blood, not the people I placed on earth) is so small now, that to loose one is to carve a whole in my existence the size of Texas. The loss of 3 family members to accidents caused by drunk drivers kind of sent me over the edge. This was worse then anything I had ever had happen to myself. Like Chinese water torture, one, then a month or so later another ,then a few weeks later another. It was 3 -years later that my health went to hell, I found myself having panic episodes, weird, I could not breath. I became allergic to everything I loved to eat. I got kidney stones, developed GERD and super high blood pressure. Never had a head ache in my life until now and they were killers. I could not sleep nights and could not stay focused days. I became angry with everything and everyone I came in contact with. The anger built, at what I did not know, just that I wanted to kill every one and every thing that I thought had any control over me. My friends of 20 years or so began to avoid me, my own family treated me as a nut case. That was the hard part, when they tried to help me, they could not , I had no idea what was wrong with me. How could I talk to them about a problem when I myself had no idea what it was? My own family began to suspect I was on drugs and treated me some what as your grandmother treats you, no matter how well my ideas were worked out, because they came from me, (the family nut case ) they had to disregard them and put me down. One day a couple of years ago I went into work and a co-worker was taking up a collection for a man I had met only twice at work, his wife and child had been hit broad side by a drunken driver. Wife and 6 year old daughter dead. I gave a couple bucks and put it all out of my mind. Later on, 9 months or so, perhaps longer, I ran into the guy at a party, he was wasted, a mess, no one knew what to do with him so I poured him into my car and drove him home. He blabbered about and I wanted to smack him to be quiet. It was the ride from Hell for me, and him I think. I got him into his house and couldn't wait to get out , when he kind of sobered up. He went on a tirade about how no one understood him and when he threw a golf club at me < I made my exit. I discussed this with my life partner and a week later invited him to the house. Everyone left, and he and I had a talk alone. It was an amazing conversation, we were both feeling the same way and had no outlet for our grief. Until that time I had no idea that the deaths in my family were churning in my gut, causing me illness, and he felt alone with his anger. It became a bond that had us seeking out others with our pain, we found that when grief is shared it becomes less to bare. No Doctors, no so called professionals involved, just people who know how you feel and why. Search them out Clyde, this saved my sanity and my families sanity, and most of my illnesses have passed, I can breath now and slowly the other problems have calmed down. No one calls me the family nut anymore, come to find out, I was not the only one who went boinkers over the deaths. I was so wrapped up in my own feelings I never thought about the damage done to the direct family members. I was so involved with myself, I never thought about others suffering worse then I.Once I got over the __ME- ME -ME- faze , I began to grow anew again. Clyde, stress from the past can kill you, cause your body to wonk out. Best to find a group of same people with like problems to rid yourself of your medical problems. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/c62c1f2d/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 25 12:53:25 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 25 12:53:28 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET SEARCH TOPICS. In-Reply-To: <20050925185940.5549.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 25, 2005 11:59:40 AM Message-ID: <20050925195325.70446.qmail@mall-net.com> > I WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL FRIDAY AFTERNOON, AT INSTALLING AN H.E.P.A. AIR FILTER IN THE CEILING AIR CONDITIONING AIR INTAKE. > THE FUCKING DUCTS ARE STILL AS DIRTY AS ALL HELL THOUGH, WITH NO HOPE OF ATTAINING ENOUGH MONEY RESOURCES TO MAKE GETTING THE DUCTS CLEANED OUT, INTO A REALITY. Step by step. > Interesting... Apparently some EMF sensitivity. > > YES; DEFINATELY E.M.F. SENSITIVITY; AND ALSO TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE PHOTONIC ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, PRODUCED BY POWERED FLOURESCENT LIGHTING. Flicker fusion threshold? I have an unusually high flicker fusion threshold, so the old style flourescents bother me. The new style do not. If you have porphyria, the ultraviolet may also bother you. > THEY ALSO DISCOUNT ALL OF THE EVIL CORRUPTION THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEX, AND EQUALLY; IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES, AND IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES). Don't look for evil. Evil is intentionally malicious, intending to harm as the primary goal. This just does not happen that often. Harm in most cases is simply because doctors are not well educated and don't pay enough attention. > If you run a stable, well planned life, you can take advantage of > things that build over the years. However, many people don't live those > kind of stable lives, so need to rely on liquidity more than long term > yields. > WELL I'VE HAD MY LIFE PLANNED OUT FOR A LONG TIME NOW; WHAT I WANT, AND WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH IT. Not what I mean. I mean stable, as in steady job, low risk of being fired, steady income, etc. Stable. > FINANCIAL IMPEDENCE IS AN INFINITE GRANITE WALL; NOT A BRICK WALL; > A SOLID GRANITE WALL; INFINITELY THICK. You see, you don't believe you can attain it. So your mind just gives up, rendering it as a wall instead of a series of roots leading to interesting things. With that, you don't study the roots, the finances, how people did attain their wealth, etc. You have to have an interest in it, have to read about the lives of many wealthy people, glean lessons from what they did. (As for the ads, courses, etc. forget it; it's mostly cons. Read biographies of real people first.) > I NEED AN ANGEL PHILANTHROPIST INVESTOR, IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE TO FIND > ONE; BUT I'VE LOST MY MIND SO BADLY, THAT AN ANGEL BENEFACTOR Mentors can be found, once one's movements are less jerky and one's stance is more normal. So health, relaxation, etc. are your first goals. > MIGHT NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH ME, BECAUSE OF THE TROUBLES ('IN / OF MY 'LIFE'); I HAVE REACHED MADNESS, AND AT TIMES, HAVE TRANSCENDED > THE MADNESS, BUT I WANT TO PERMANENTLY-PEACEFULLY-PERMANENTLY TRANSCEND ALL OF THE ENDLESS CEASELESS SENSELESS NONSENSE, OF THIS GODDAMNED CRAZY WORLD, AND THE MADNESS THAT IT HAS ALL DRIVEN ME TO. The world only appears to be crazy if you don't look at why things happen. There are always reasons. When you get good at seeing the reasons, you can predict the future better. > > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. > > As I said, get the sphygmomanometer, the blood pressure cuff rig. > > SPHYGMOMANOMETERS ARE ONE DIMENSIONAL INSTRUMENTS, RELATIVE TO ELEKTOCARDIOGRAMS. Not at all. They measure very different things. An EKG, depending upon how it is hooked up, etc. measures how the heart functions. That has almost nothing to do with high blood pressure. Many forms of high blood pressure are more kidney driven than anything else. Others are due to hardening of the arteries. A plethsymogram is better than a blood pressure cuff for measuring arterial condition. It will show you how the blood vessels flex and relax during the pumping cycle. But a blood pressure cuff is the standard, and is good enough to give you a fair indication. You can buy a real blood pressure cuff rig for $30. And until we have several days of daily measurement, it is not clear if you have high blood pressure, if you have transient excursions or long term high blood pressure ("Essential Hypertension"), etc. With a few weeks of measurement and diary entries, you may begin to see how you can control blood pressure by diet and attitude. Like I said, I had high blood pressure in my early 30's; but within two weeks of measuring, identified what caused it and brought it back down to normal. That can often be done if you study yourself, looking for ways of improving your health. > DRASTIC VACCUM ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS; TRANSLATION: DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, RELATIVE TO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS. Not sure what you mean. Vacuum energy is usually thought to mean something other than what we normally see and measure. So there is some question as to how it could affect you. The environmental issues are easier to see; but you need to really log these things in your diary to be sure you are affected by them directly, not by something else. Things are not always clear! > I'M ALSO PRETTY WELL CERTAIN TOO, THAT I HAVE HIGH BODY ACIDITY, AND AM SUFFERING LIKE HELL BECAUSE OF IT. Go to your pharmacy and buy some pH strips. pHydrion makes some good ones. get something in the 5 - 8 range, and start writing that too, down in your diary along with your blood pressure, what you eat, etc. > > I HOPE I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ARTERY DAMAGE, > > AND HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. > > http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ Saved my father's life. Lysine is cheap! > I NEED PEACE, MOST OF ALL, IN MY LIFE..! > PEACE, IN MIND, HEART, BODY, SOUL, AND IN SPIRIT, ETC.... I think it's not external, I think you have a chemical imbalance which causes most of your problems. pH and blood pressure are a start at trying to find the real problems. > But consider, I am living in a cabin in the woods. Money and auto problems bring a LOT of stress. > YEP; THOSE FACTORS ARE WHAT ARE GIVING ME MOUNTAINLOADS OF STRESS: MONEY AND AUTO; AND I AM FORCED TO LIVE IN THE SHITTY. I just totaled my toyota. Due to the rough roads, some spot welds suffered fatigue fracture, and the McPherson strut punched up my hood some ten inches. Suggestion is that the car is totaled. Not the first car to suffer major problems up here from the roads... nearly lost the wheel from my truck, again from fatigue fractures, earlier this year, etc. > I AGREE ABOUT LAUGHTER BEING A GOOD MEDICINE. > A PROBLEMATIC PAST, AND TOO MUCH SERIOUS FOCUS ON A FUTURE THAT > I CANNOT HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER, ARE GIVING ME STRESS OVERLOAD. Clyde, no one has complete control over anything. Reasonable expectations, alternative paths, and just plain not getting upset over what you can't control, keep one sane. Think of progress as statistical accumulation, rather than linear path. Consider energy spent, not just progress. > > THERE ARE OBSTACLES AT EVERY TURN OF THE WAY IN THIS INDUSTRIAL > > SLUM SHITHOLE WASTELAND, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA; INFINITE OBSTACLES. > > There are obstacles everywhere. You grow by climbing over them. > I CAN CLIMB MOUNTAINS; I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, AND WILL DO IT AGAIN, IF > IMPEDENCE DOESN'T STOP ME FROM DOING IT. > > PEOPLE LIVING IN TULSA ARE FOR THE MOST PART; MISERABLE, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. That's their problem. Don't make it yours. Or if you do, then make some money from the problems by helping solve them. > > POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE! ; > > AND ALL POLITICIANS ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS. > > Not true. > > I DISAGREE. Was George Washington worthless? He was a politician! As were Kennedy, Reagan, even Abe Lincoln. Granted, they were better than most; but still politicians. > WHO ARE THEY??? > THE GREEDY WARMONGERING NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY PERVERTED NEOLIB'S? > THEY ARE EQUALLY THE REASON WHY WE ARE ALL SUFFERING! Sometime war is worth fighting. If you spend a lot of energy on things far from what you need done, you won't get the important things done. First heal, then expand your horizons. > I TALKED FOR A SHORT WHILE THIS MORNING, TO A RETIRED NURSE, AND > SHE WAS A VERY FRIENDLY LADY WHO AGREES AT HOW CORRUPT AND EVIL THAT PHARMACOLOGY IS, BEHIND THE SCENES. Yes, but what's the alternative? Pharmacology is not all bad; it's fast medicine, much like fast food. You need to address the rest of the diet; but when you are in a rush, fast food is better than no food. > > THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO START OVER, WITH A COUP, OR SOMETHING. > > The economic losses in something like that would be incredible! > That is the worst thing that could happen to America, short of some > nation nuking us. > THE GREEDY WARMONGERING (AND HUSH HUSH BEHIND THE SCENES PERVERT) NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY AND PERVERTED NEOLIB'S, ARE > EQUALLY TEARING THIS COUNTRY APART. I don't think it's that bad. I mean, look at Iraq, Iran, North Korea... and you see that we are doing rather well! > I USED TO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE AN EASY ENERGY TECHNOLOGY REVOLUTION; I NOW SEE THAT BLOODSHED WOULD OCCUR , IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. No. It just takes time for society to adjust. > I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS CURSED, FUCKED PLANET, BEFORE IT GOES UP > IN NUCLEAR SMOKE. I doubt it ever will. As long as most people want to live, want their kids to have a better future; they will work at making the future better, and so the future WILL be better. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 13:02:50 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 13:02:54 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde In-Reply-To: <75.4e338bd3.3068576a@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050925200250.78548.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote:Clyde, stress from the past can kill you, YEAH; THE STRESS FROM MY PAST IS KILLING ME. I DESPERATELY NEED LASTING PEACE IN MY LIFE. MY STRESS OVERLOAD IS ALSO CAUSED BY SO MUCH WORRY OVER THE FUTURE, EQUALLY AS WELL. ALLOPATH SHIT IS NO LONGER OF BENEFIT TO ME, IF IT EVEN EVER WAS, IN THE FIRST GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED PLACE. cause your body to wonk out. Best to find a group of same people with like problems to rid yourself of your medical problems. GROUPS ARE VERY LIMITED, IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM OF TULSA. I ATTENDED ONE GROUP, BUT IT DID NOT HAVE BENEFIT. I ATTENDED ANOTHER VERY SMALL GROUP THAT I HAD TO PAY FOR, AND THAT WAS OF SOME BENEFIT, BUT NOT VERY MUCH, AND NOT LASTINGLY........ GOTTA GO GET LUNCH TO EAT. I HAVEN'T HAD LUCH YET. I'LL REPLY MORE LATER. SINCERELY, CLYDE. Regards Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/146674bf/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 25 18:47:59 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 25 18:48:12 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CARDIOVASCULAR STRESS. In-Reply-To: <20050925192925.29230.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 25, 2005 12:29:25 PM Message-ID: <20050926014759.68792.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. I keep thinking that some of the problems could also be caused by too low blood pressure, and attempts to compensate. That is why I keep harping on getting the blood pressure rig. The body gets rid of toxics in several ways. First, the liver tries to break down a lot of thing via the break them down via the cytochrome P-450 system. This is a background process, regulated up and down, but not as fast as other means. It is also the system which breaks down many drugs, thus if you are on heavy doses of some drug dealt with this way, you will have less capacity to tolerate other pollutants and toxins. Antacids like Tagamet (sp?) are particularly reported to cause this kind of problem. Primary, are the lungs. Small molecules are "evaporated" via the lungs IF the external environment has less than in present in the blood. When the lungs don't remove toxins quickly enough, the kidneys start to flush as fast as they can. This causes transient low blood pressure episodes. That's why I want you to get a blood pressure cuff and start monitoring your blood pressure. Over-active kidneys will do several things: serious drops in blood pressure, which can trigger adrenaline in effort to compensate. You may see more foaming in the urine, aka proteinuria. You may also have lower back pain which is realy pain from the kidneys and adrenal glands. During this flush episode, salt imbalances arise. These can result in digestion problems (lack of magnesium stalls the gut) and coordination problems as the brain experiences too low sodium levels to keep firing properly. (I see this as foot spasms.) Low salt then triggers even harder work by the kidneys to try to conserve salts. Hydrogen is needed for this, and it may be stripped off the porphyrins, resulting in other health issues, aka transient porphyria, light sensitivity, skin problems, etc. And all this can cause mentation problems. The high adrenaline makes one slightly paranoid, the low sodium makes one slightly spastic, and the low magnesium makes one constipated, thus adding to the bad chemical load in the body even more. (Not to mention bad breath as per above.) So you see, you may or may not have high blood pressure. My bet is that you have episodes of both high AND low blood pressure. And since enzymes are rather sensitive to body temperature, it would also be useful to monitor your body temperature for a few days, taking it every hour just to see where it is. See http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html for more on that. But most important, is monitoring the blood pressure several times a day for a few weeks to see what's going on. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 19:14:41 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 19:14:53 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOPICS; (SPLIT IN TWO HALVES.). In-Reply-To: <20050925195325.70446.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050926021441.158.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> (HALF ONE; DUE TO THE K LIMIT SIZE OF THE POSTING:) javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Step by step. "SOMETIMES" ; BLAST BY BLAST! > Interesting... Apparently some EMF sensitivity. > > YES; DEFINATELY E.M.F. SENSITIVITY; AND ALSO TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE PHOTONIC ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, PRODUCED BY POWERED FLOURESCENT LIGHTING. Flicker fusion threshold? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT TERMINOLOGY BEFORE. I have an unusually high flicker fusion threshold, so the old style flourescents bother me. The new style do not. THAT IS THE WAY IT SEEMS IT IS FOR ME TOO. MY C.F.L. (COMPACT FLOURESCENT LAMP) DOESN'T HAVE MUCH EFFECT ON ME, BUT THE LONG TUBED FLOURESCENTS BOTHER ME NEUROLOGICALLY, WHEN THE DOSAGE OF CLONAZEPAM IS LOW, IN MY BLOODSTREAM. If you have porphyria, ACTUALLY; I THINK I FORGOT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE URINALYSIS TEST FOR PORPHYRIA AND PYROLURIA CAME BACK NEGATIVE. AT FIRST, I QUESTIONED THE HONESTY OF THE TEST RESULTS, BY TAKING THE PAPERS TO SHOW MY CHIROPRACTOR, AND MY CHIROPRACTOR SAID THAT THE FOLKS AT THE LAB, (WHICH THE PAPER SEEMS TO INDICATE IS LOCATED IN CALIFORNINA), WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, IN THE RESULTS. YOU MENTIONED GETTING TESTED FOR LYME DISEASE; I NOW WANT TO CHECK THAT TOO. I NEED TO CALL MY AUNT AND HOUND HERE A LITTLE MORE, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE TITLE OF THAT SKIN PROBLEMS WAS, THAT MY FATHER WAS BEING TREATED FOR, JUST BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY IN 99'. I NOW THE HAVE DETERMINATION TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM; IF THE INFINITE GRANITE WALL DOESN'T SOLIDIFY ONCE AGAIN, AS IT USUALLY ALWAYS DOES, IN MIST OF MY PATHWAY. the ultraviolet may also bother you. I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT IN A LONG TIME. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME; BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW IT MIGHT EFFECT ME NOW, AS AN ADULT, IF I WERE TO BE AROUND IT. > THEY ALSO DISCOUNT ALL OF THE EVIL CORRUPTION THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, IN THE PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEX, AND EQUALLY; IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES, AND IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRIAL KONTROL KOMM-(UNION-ISM)-PLEXES). Don't look for evil. HMMM.... ACTUALLY IT IS EVIL THAT SEEMS TO COME LOOKING FOR ME A LOT; IN THE OTHERWAY AROUND. Evil is intentionally malicious, intending to harm as the primary goal. YEAH; AND I HAVE BEEN HARMED BY EVIL; PSYCHOLOGICALLY -/- NEUROLOGICALLY, AND PHYSIOLOGICALLY, WHICH, IN MANY AND MOST CASES, ARE THE SAME; AND I AM NOW OUT FOR VENGEANCE. This just does not happen that often. Harm in most cases is simply because doctors are not well educated and don't pay enough attention. YEAH; THE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT I HAVE VOLANTARILY AND FORCEFULLY SIMULTANEOUSLY TAKEN, HAVE HAD LASTING NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS ON MY WELL BEING. I CAN DEFINE SOME OF THOSE, IF IN A FOLLOW UP POSTING, IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH CURIOSITY. > If you run a stable, well planned life, you can take advantage of > things that build over the years. However, many people don't live those > kind of stable lives, so need to rely on liquidity more than long term > yields. > WELL I'VE HAD MY LIFE PLANNED OUT FOR A LONG TIME NOW; WHAT I WANT, AND WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH IT. Not what I mean. I mean stable, as in steady job, low risk of being fired, steady income, etc. Stable. THE JOB THAT I HAVE HAD NOW FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS WAS STABLE, UNTIL THE THIRD (TURD) MANAGER WHICH I HAVE NOW. MY FIRST TWO BOSSES WERE COOL. MY NEW BOSS IS A C--- BITCH, AND I GOT PISSED AT HER TODAY. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DRASTIC, BUT DID I LET HER KNOW THAT I WAS FRUSTRATED AND PISSED AT HER. THE DAMNED BITCH HAS WRITTEN ME UP TWICE NOW. THE FIRST TIMES THAT I HAVE BEEN WRITTEN UP DURING THE ENTIRE FIRST TWO YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED. THREE STRIKES; ONE MORE STRIKE, AND I'M OUT. BUT THE FUCKING JOB IS WEARING ME DOWN, LIKE IT WORE MY PREVIOUS MANAGER DOWN, AND MY PREVIOUS ASSITANT MAMAGER DOWN. MY PREVIOUS ASSISTANT MANAGER JUST WALKED OFF OF THE JOB, AT THE END OF LAST MONTH. CHINESE OVERSTOCK OVERKILL. IT HAS BECOME A MAJOR PROBLEM, THERE, AT DOLLAR GENERAL. > FINANCIAL IMPEDENCE IS AN INFINITE GRANITE WALL; NOT A BRICK WALL; > A SOLID GRANITE WALL; INFINITELY THICK. You see, you don't believe you can attain it. So your mind just gives up, rendering it as a wall instead of a series of roots leading to interesting things. ACTUALLY, IT IS EASY TO MAKE SOLID GRANITE TURN ('PHASE') INTO DIFFERENT FORMS IN MY MIND; METAPHYSICALLY; INFINITE PULVERIZED DUST; INFINITE NONEXISTENCE; INFINITE WATER; INFINITE WHATEVER. I CAN MAKE IT MATERIALIZE AND DEMATERIALIZE IN MY MIND, EASILY; BUT THAT ISN'T REALITY. With that, you don't study the roots, I CAN IMAGINE INFINITE CRACKS IN THAT SOLID GRANITE; EXACTLY LIKE INFINITE MICROARCS OF LIGHTNING ALLTHROUGHOUT ITS EXISTANCE, AND THEN I CAN BLAST IT INTO INFINITE SMITHEREENS; BUT THAT STILL ISN'T A PHYSICAL REALITY; IT IS A METAPHYSICAL REALITY. the finances, how people did attain their wealth, etc. You have to have an interest in it, have to read about the lives of many wealthy people, glean lessons from what they did. I DON'T REMEMBER IF I ALSO LET YOU KNOW, THAT I REQUESTED THE DALE CARNEGIE BOOK ON NARRATED AUDIO C.D., FROM THE LIBRARY. THE LIBRARIAN INFORMED ME THAT IT WAS OUT ON LOAN, AT MY TIME OF REQUEST. ITS BEEN AROUND A WEEK AND A HALF NOW, AND SHE SAID THAT I'D BE NOTIFIED WHEN IT WAS BACK AT THE LIBRARY. SO FAR; NO CALL YET, TO LET ME KNOW THAT IT HAS ARRIVED BACK. (As for the ads, courses, etc. forget it; it's mostly cons. YEAH; THAT IS WHY I AM SO SICK OF COMMERICIALISM. LIKE THE COMMERICIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY. Read biographies of real people first.) YEAH; I READ MAN OUT OF TIME; ONE OF THE AUTOBIOGRAPHIES ABOUT TESLA. AND I ALSO READ PART OF AN AUTOBIOGARPHY ON JOHN DELOREAN. ONE OF MY TROUBLES; I READ AND WRITE WELL, BUT I HAVE TROUBLE WHEN IT COMES TO READING BOOKS COVER TO COVER; TROUBLE SITTING STILL LONG ENOUGH TO READ BOOKS; THEY DON'T KEEP MY ATTENTION LONG ENOUGH, TO SIT AND READ THEM, COVER TO COVER. BOOKS USUALLY RAMBLE ON AND ON, AND I CAN'T TAKE THAT. IT IS A RARITY WHEN I FIND A BOOK OR A MAGAZINE ARTICLE THAT HAS SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE THAT WILL HOLD MY ATTENTION, LONG ENOUGH TO READ THE TOPIC ALL OF THE WAY THOUGH TO ITS END. MY SHORT WRITING ARE REFLECTIVE OF THAT TOO; ALL OF MY MUSE WRITINGS. IF I CAN GET THE AUDIO C.D. NARRATION, OF DALE CARNEGIES BOOK; HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE; I SHOULD BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO IT ALL OF THE WAY THROUGH, TO ITS END. I AM MORE OF AN AUDIO VISUAL MEDIA TYPE, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS OUT THERE ARE, TODAY. > I NEED AN ANGEL PHILANTHROPIST INVESTOR, IF SUCH IS POSSIBLE TO FIND > ONE; BUT I'VE LOST MY MIND SO BADLY, THAT AN ANGEL BENEFACTOR Mentors can be found, I'VE HAD TWO MENTORS IN MY LIFE, SO FAR, THAT HAVE COME AND GONE. THE FIRST MENTOR WAS THE OWNER OF AN L.P.T.V. (LOW POWER TELEVISION STATION, BACK IN 90' THROUGH 91, TO APPROXIMATELY THE MIDDLE TO END OF 92', WITH HIS EXPERIMENTAL LOW POWER BROADCAST TELEVISION STATION; TOOTLEVISION; TULSA U.H.F. T.V. 33; K33DG; WITH LOADS OF ESOTERIC VIDEO PROGRAMMING, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY DOING THE REBROADCASTING OF THE AUDIO OF W.N.N. (THE WINNERS NEWS NETWORK). I VIVIDLY REMEMBER; FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE AS BEING ONE OF THE MAIN SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE, WHO WERE PART OF THE WINNERS NEWS NETWORK. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE LARGEST INSPIRATION IN MY LIFE, APART FROM THE SECOND ONE. THE SECOND MENTOR, WAS TROY REED, WHICH YOU CAN READ ABOUT ON THE NET ON MANY VARIOUS WEBSITES, I AM SHURE OF. HE IS PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT A LOT, IN THE FREE ENERGY FORUMS AND ALL. HE IS AN INVENTOR, BUT HE MOVED OUT OF TULSA, BACK IN 97' TO 98'. HE WAS PROBABLY JUST AS FRUSTRATED AT THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUM WASTELAND, AS MYSELF, AND AS SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE. HARRY TOOTLE; FORMER OWNER OF TOOTLEVISION U.H.F. 33, AND HIS BROTHER; CHARLIE, WERE PROBABLY ALSO FED UP WITH THIS FOREVER HALF ASSED, FOREVER GO NOWHERE FAST, INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND; LAND OF ENDLESS NEVERENDING HALF ASSED INDUSTRY. HARRY TOOTLE WAS THE ONE WHO INSPIRED ME TO BECOME A RADIO AMATEUR, AND TO EVENTUALLY GET TO WHERE I'M AT NOW, WITH MY LOW POWER F.M. (L.P.F.M.) BROADCAST STATION. IT IS JUST SO FRUSTRATING THAT I CANNOT TAKE IT; (THE L.P.F.M. STATION), ALONG WITH ALL OTHER PROJECTS, TO ALL OF THEIR LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS, AS WITH CERTAIN OTHER TECHNICAL, EXPERIMENTAL, AND SCIENTIFIC ENGINEERING THINGS TOO. once one's movements are less jerky I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. BUT SEXUAL ABUSE IN MY YOUTH, PUBESCENCE, AND POST PUBESCENCE HAVE ABSOLUTELY RUINED MY LIFE, AND HAVE MADE ME AN ANXIETY RIDDEN ANTI-SOCIOPATH, FOR THE MOST PART. HOPE I'M NOT MAKING ANYONE NERVOUS, TALKING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. and one's stance is more normal. IF I CAN GET MY NEUROHORMONAL NEUROSIS UNDER PERMANENT CONTROL. ANTISEXUALITY, AND LASTING PEACE, ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME; YET I CANNOT FIND THEM. So health, relaxation, etc. are your first goals. YES. I NEED HELP FROM OTHERS THOUGH, TO REACH GOOD AND LASTING HEALTH, AND PERMANENT RELAXATION THOUGH. ALLOPATHISM DOCTORALISM HAS NOT BEEN OF MAJOR HELP. MY CHIROPRACTIC DOCTOR HAS BEEN OF THE MOST HELP; ESPECIALLY THE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY THAT CHIROPRACTORS USE. > MIGHT NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH ME, BECAUSE OF THE TROUBLES ('IN / OF MY 'LIFE'); I HAVE REACHED MADNESS, AND AT TIMES, HAVE TRANSCENDED > THE MADNESS, BUT I WANT TO PERMANENTLY-PEACEFULLY-PERMANENTLY TRANSCEND ALL OF THE ENDLESS CEASELESS SENSELESS NONSENSE, OF THIS GODDAMNED CRAZY WORLD, AND THE MADNESS THAT IT HAS ALL DRIVEN ME TO. The world only appears to be crazy if you don't look at why things happen. There are always reasons. CRAZY SENSELESS WARS; LIKE VIETNAM; AND WASTING BILLIONS ON IRAQ; WASTING BILLIONS ON IRAQ, ONLY TO BANKRUPT THIS NOW FUCKED COUNTRY, FOR THE SAKE OF THE UNITED DIVIDED NATIONS, AND THE 'UNDERGROUND' LUCIFER'S TRUST AGENDA.....????? When you get good at seeing the reasons, you can predict the future better. SEEING THE REASONS? LIKE SEEING THE DARK AND THE LIGHT SIDES OF REALITY, AT THE SAME GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED TIME? CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/7ed3d264/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 19:17:20 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 19:17:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOPICS; (SPLIT IN TWO HALVES.). In-Reply-To: <20050925195325.70446.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050926021720.45587.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> (HALF TWO; DUE TO THE K LIMIT SIZE OF THE FULL LENGTH OF THE POSTING:) javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. > > As I said, get the sphygmomanometer, the blood pressure cuff rig. > > SPHYGMOMANOMETERS ARE ONE DIMENSIONAL INSTRUMENTS, RELATIVE TO ELEKTOCARDIOGRAMS. Not at all. They measure very different things. An EKG, depending upon how it is hooked up, etc. measures how the heart functions. That has almost nothing to do with high blood pressure. I AM HAVING HEART PALPITATIONS, DRASTIC PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, AND NEAR EXPLOSIONS OF MY HEART AT TIMES. Many forms of high blood pressure are more kidney driven than anything else. Others are due to hardening of the arteries. A plethsymogram IF I COULD AFFORD TO OWN ONE. is better than a blood pressure cuff for measuring arterial condition. It will show you how the blood vessels flex and relax during the pumping cycle. But a blood pressure cuff is the standard, and is good enough to give you a fair indication. You can buy a real blood pressure cuff rig for $30. OK. THERE IS A MEDICAL SUPPLY STORE, ON THE MAIN ROAD NEAR THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB; IF I CAN, I MAY TRY TO GET MY OWN. And until we have several days of daily measurement, it is not clear if you have high blood pressure, if you have transient excursions or long term high blood pressure ("Essential Hypertension"), etc. WELL MY CHIROPRACTOR DOESN'T DENY THAT I HAVE HYPERTENSION. UNLESS IT MAY BE HYPOTENSION. OR PERHAPS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO; DUE TO THE DRASIC FLUCTUATIONS IN MY BLOOD PRESSURE, FROM EVEN FLOW, TO UNDER FLOW, TO BOILING OVER BLOOD, TO WHITE HOT NUCLEAR BLAST ENERGY, SHOOTING OUT OF THE TOP OF MY CRANIUM. With a few weeks of measurement and diary entries, you may begin to see how you can control blood pressure by diet and attitude. I MAY NOT HAVE THAT LONG; TWO YEARS. AND WRITING IN THE DIARY THAT I HAVE, HAS BECOME MINIMAL TO NONE, WHILE TAKING CLONAZEPAM, BECAUSE MY THOUGHTS DO NOT RACE NEARLY AS MUCH AS THEY DO, WHEN I WAS TAKING ZYPREXA OLANZAPINE. Like I said, I had high blood pressure in my early 30's; but within two weeks of measuring, identified what caused it and brought it back down to normal. That can often be done if you study yourself, looking for ways of improving your health. > DRASTIC VACCUM ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS; TRANSLATION: DRASTIC BLOOD PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, RELATIVE TO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS. Not sure what you mean. I CAN FEEL THE DRASTIC VACCUUM ENERGY FLUCTUATIONS FROM NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS, WHEN I EITHER SENSE THEM, OR WHEN I AM IN THEM. Vacuum energy is usually thought to mean something other than what we normally see and measure. I USE IT MORE AS A METAPHOR, THAN I DO AS A NATURAL LABEL. So there is some question as to how it could affect you. The environmental issues are easier to see; but you need to really log these things in your diary to be sure you are affected by them directly, not by something else. Things are not always clear! > I'M ALSO PRETTY WELL CERTAIN TOO, THAT I HAVE HIGH BODY ACIDITY, AND AM SUFFERING LIKE HELL BECAUSE OF IT. Go to your pharmacy and buy some pH strips. pHydrion makes some good ones. get something in the 5 - 8 range, and start writing that too, down in your diary along with your blood pressure, OK. what you eat, etc. I AM TRYING MY BEST TO EAT HEALTHY, MOST OF THE TIME NOW. > > I HOPE I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF ARTERY DAMAGE, > > AND HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. > > http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ Saved my father's life. Lysine is cheap! DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LYINE, AND LYCOPINE? I NEED TO FIND WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM ARE, AND WHAT LYCOPINE HAS ITS EFFECTS ON. > I NEED PEACE, MOST OF ALL, IN MY LIFE..! > PEACE, IN MIND, HEART, BODY, SOUL, AND IN SPIRIT, ETC.... I think it's not external, I think you have a "chemical imbalance" (A CHEMICAL NEUROHORMONAL NEUROTIC AND PSYCHOTIC BROKEN BALANCE.). which causes most of your problems. pH and blood pressure are a start at trying to find the real problems. I NOW, LIKE I SAID ABOVE, HAVE DETERMINATION TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. > But consider, I am living in a cabin in the woods. Money and auto problems bring a LOT of stress. > YEP; THOSE FACTORS ARE WHAT ARE GIVING ME MOUNTAINLOADS OF STRESS: MONEY AND AUTO; AND I AM FORCED TO LIVE IN THE SHITTY. I just totalled my toyota. Due to the rough roads, some spot welds suffered fatigue fracture, and the McPherson strut punched up my hood some ten inches. Suggestion is that the car is totaled. Not the first car to suffer major problems up here from the roads... nearly lost the wheel from my truck, again from fatigue fractures, earlier this year, etc. DAMN. > I AGREE ABOUT LAUGHTER BEING A GOOD MEDICINE. > A PROBLEMATIC PAST, AND TOO MUCH SERIOUS FOCUS ON A FUTURE THAT > I CANNOT HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER, ARE GIVING ME STRESS OVERLOAD. Clyde, no one has complete control over anything. Reasonable expectations, alternative paths, and just plain not getting upset over what you can't control, keeps one sane. SINCE I CANNOT HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER MY DESTINY, I NEED TO GET, AND NEED TO KEEP, PERMANENT PEACE IN MY LIFE. Think of progress as statistical accumulation, rather than linear path. Consider energy spent, not just progress. OK. > I CAN CLIMB MOUNTAINS; I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, AND WILL DO IT AGAIN, IF > IMPEDENCE DOESN'T STOP ME FROM DOING IT. > > PEOPLE LIVING IN TULSA ARE FOR THE MOST PART; MISERABLE, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. That's their problem. Don't make it yours. Or if you do, then make some money from the problems by helping solve them. > > POLITICS SCREWS SCIENCE! ; > > AND ALL POLITICIANS ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS. > > Not true. > > I DISAGREE. Was George Washington worthless? He was a politician! I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT: ALL MODERN MAINSTREAM POLITICIANS ARE WORTHLESS; AND ARE ONLY OUT FOR THEIR GARGANTUAN SELF GAIN, BEFORE THEY ARE BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE. ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS EVEN THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN POLITICIANS, IT SEEMS. As were Kennedy, Reagan, even Abe Lincoln. Granted, they were better than most; but still politicians. YES; DEFINATELY BETTER THAN MOST! > WHO ARE THEY??? > THE GREEDY WARMONGERING NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY PERVERTED NEOLIB'S? > THEY ARE EQUALLY THE REASON WHY WE ARE ALL SUFFERING! Sometime war is worth fighting. OK; WITH AN OVERDOSE OF PAINKILLERS, EQUALLY, FOR ALL WHO FIGHT; THAT WOULD BE WAR WORTH FIGHTING! If you spend a lot of energy on things far from what you need done, you won't get the important things done. First heal, then expand your horizons. HEAL; THAT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE, AT TIMES, DUE TO LACK-O-MONEY, AND INABILITY TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO OUR ADVANTAGES. > I TALKED FOR A SHORT WHILE THIS MORNING, TO A RETIRED NURSE, AND > SHE WAS A VERY FRIENDLY LADY WHO AGREES AT HOW CORRUPT AND EVIL THAT PHARMACOLOGY IS, BEHIND THE SCENES. Yes, but what's the alternative? Pharmacology is not all bad; it's fast 'medicine' FAST DRUGS, much like fast food. You need to address the rest of the diet; but when you are in a rush, fast food is better than no food. I NEED TO EAT THREE TIMES DAILY, INSTEAD OF EATING ONE GIGANTIC BUFFET MEAL IN THE AFTERNOON EVERY DAY; THAT MAY BE A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM FOR ME; THE DIGESTIVE PROCESS MAY NOT BE DOING AS GOOD AS IT CAN DO FOR ME, WITH ONE GIANT MEAL PER DAY, NOT SPLITTING THE MEAL INTO THREE TIMES DAILY; PROBLEM IS, IS THAT BOTH MY MONEY, AND MY SCHEDULE WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THREE MEALS PER DAY: MORNING NOON AND EVENING. > > THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO START OVER, WITH A COUP, OR SOMETHING. > > The economic losses in something like that would be incredible! > That is the worst thing that could happen to America, short of some > nation nuking us. > THE GREEDY WARMONGERING (AND HUSH HUSH BEHIND THE SCENES PERVERT) NEOCON'S, AND THE GREEDY AND PERVERTED NEOLIB'S, ARE > EQUALLY TEARING THIS COUNTRY APART. I don't think it's that bad. I mean, look at Iraq, Iran, North Korea... and you see that we are doing rather well! FROM MY PERSPECTIVE; THE ENTIRE PLANET SHOULD BE DOING WELL. BUT THAT HAS TO DO EITHER WITH ALL OF THE GOD'S OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, OR WITH THE GODS OF ANTIQUITY, OR WITH SOME OTHER CRAZY CONTROVERSIAL SHIT, THAT TAKES A LONG TIME TO WRITE OUT. > I USED TO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE AN EASY ENERGY TECHNOLOGY REVOLUTION; I NOW SEE THAT BLOODSHED WOULD OCCUR , IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. No. It just takes time for society to adjust. I WANT MY OWN NON-NUCLEAR; (ANTI-NUCLEAR) MICRO POWERPLANT RIGHT NOW, AND AN AUTOMOTIVE FORM OF TRAVEL THAT WILL GET ME TO PLACES FAST, WITHOUT ALL OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS COMPLICATED BULLSHIT, OF THE INFERNAL FUCKUPTION ENGINE, AND ITS EVERLASTING PROBLEMS AND POLLUTION. I WANT A MICRO SPACESHIP, TO LEAVE THIS GOD, MAN, AND GODS DAMNED PLANET IN PEACE, FOREVER, NEVER TO RETURN TO THIS DAMNED WORLD EVER AGAIN. YES; I KNOW THIS WRITING IS ABSURD, BUT WHAT THE HELL; I AM IN HELL, HAVING TO LIVE HOW I AM LIVING 'LIFE'. > I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS CURSED, FUCKED PLANET, BEFORE IT GOES UP IN NUCLEAR SMOKE. I doubt it ever will. As long as most people want to live, want their kids to have a better future; they will work at making the future better, and so the future WILL be better. LORD KNOW'S THAT I HOPE SO! I HOPE THERE IS A BETTER FUTURE AHEAD, THAN THE PICTURE PAINTED BY THE NAZI NEOCON'S, AND BY THE COMMIE NEOLIB'S. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/33107cbf/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 19:53:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 19:53:07 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CARDIOVASCULAR STRESS. In-Reply-To: <20050926014759.68792.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050926025302.80607.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > THE WORRY IN MY LIFE IS TOO DAMNED HIGH, AND THE CARDIOVASCULAR HYPERTENSION STRESS IN MY LIFE, IS TOO DAMNED HIGH. I keep thinking that some of the problems could also be caused by too low blood pressure, and attempts to compensate. That is why I keep harping on getting the blood pressure rig. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY; BUT ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS, AND LACK-O-MONEY; ("ANTIMONEY"), ARE A BIG DEAL OF IT. The body gets rid of toxics in several ways. First, the liver tries to break down a lot of thing via the break them down via the cytochrome P-450 system. This is a background process, regulated up and down, but not as fast as other means. It is also the system which breaks down many drugs, thus if you are on heavy doses of some drug dealt with this way, you will have less capacity to tolerate other pollutants and toxins. Antacids like Tagamet (sp?) are particularly reported to cause this kind of problem. I AM PRETTY WELL CERTAIN, THOUGH I CANNOT VERIFY FOR ABSOLUTE FACT, THAT I HAVE LIVER DAMAGE, DUE TO ALL OF THE GODDAMNED ALLOPATH CHEMICALS. Primary, are the lungs. Small molecules are "evaporated" via the lungs IF the external environment has less than is present in the blood. I AM CERTAINLY HAVING BREATHING DIFFICULTIES. When the lungs don't remove toxins quickly enough, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THAT IS A PORTION OF THE TROUBLE. the kidneys start to flush as fast as they can. This causes transient low blood pressure episodes. WHEN I WAKE IN THE MORNINGS NOW, MY CHEST HURTS EVERY TIME, BEFORE I URINATE. That's why I want you to get a blood pressure cuff and start monitoring your blood pressure. IF I CAN POSSIBLY AFFORD IT NEXT MONTH; OK. Over-active kidneys will do several things: serious drops in blood pressure, which can trigger adrenaline in effort to compensate. You may see more foaming in the urine NO FOAMING IN THE URINE. I NEED TO GET THE PH TEST STRIPS A.S.A.P. FROM WALGREENS, OR ANOTHER PHARMACY THOUGH. , aka proteinuria. You may also have lower back pain which is realy pain from the kidneys and adrenal glands. DEFINATELY LOWER BACK PAIN! THAT IS FOR CERTAIN. During this flush episode, salt imbalances arise. These can result in digestion problems I AM HAVING SOME DIGESTIVE PROBLEMS. FECES THAT IS SOLID, LIKE IT USED TO BE, IN MY YOUNGER DAYS, IS FOR THE MOST PART; NO MORE. (lack of magnesium stalls the gut) WHEN YOU SAY: STALLS THE GUT; DO YOU MEAN CONSTIPATION? and coordination problems as the brain experiences too low sodium levels to keep firing properly. IF I COULD SEE HOW MY SODIUM LEVELS ARE RIGHT NOW; I WOULD CHECK THAT. (I see this as foot spasms.) I HAVE HAD SOME SPASMS IN MY LEFT ARM LATELY; BUT THEY AREN'T SEVERE. Low salt then triggers even harder work by the kidneys to try to conserve salts. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MY URINE HAS HAD SALTY SCENT TO IT AT TIMES, THINK, BUT NOT ALWAYS. Hydrogen is needed for this, and it may be stripped off the porphyrins, resulting in other health issues, aka transient porphyria, light sensitivity, skin problems, etc. I DO HAVE SPECIFIC SPOTS ON MY SKIN THAT ITCH, ON OCCASION, ESPECIALLY AFTER TAKING CHEMICAL SHOWERS, IN THE CHLORINE CRAP WATER; (TAP WATER). And all this can cause mentation problems. The high adrenaline makes one slightly paranoid, DEFINATELY. the low sodium makes one slightly spastic, SLIGHTLY SPASTIC IN MY LEFT ARM AT TIMES. and the low magnesium makes one constipated, I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLES WITH CONSPIATION AS THINGS ARE NOW. COUNTER CONSTIPATION-DIARRHEA IS MORE APPLICABLE TO DESRIBE. thus adding to the bad chemical load in the body even more. YEAH; I DON'T DISAGREE WITH HAVING A BAD CHEMICAL LOAD IN MY BODY. (Not to mention bad breath as per above.) YEAH. So you see, you may or may not have high blood pressure. My bet is that you have episodes of both high AND low blood pressure. THAT IS A CERTAINTY! And since enzymes are rather sensitive to body temperature, it would also be useful to monitor your body temperature for a few days, taking it every hour just to see where it is. YEAH; I STILL NEED TO BUY AN INEXPENSIVE THERMOMETER TO USE. See http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html for more on that. OK. But most important, is monitoring the blood pressure several times a day for a few weeks to see what's going on. I CAN HAVE MY NURSE MOTHER MONITOR MY BLOOD PRESSURE FOR A FEW WEEKS WORTH OF TIME; THE TIMES OF DAILY MEASUREMENT WILL HAVE TO BE CHAOTIC. I NEED TO GO FOR NOW. SINCERELY, CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/c34f26b6/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Sep 25 20:34:28 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Sep 25 20:34:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde In-Reply-To: <75.4e338bd3.3068576a@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050926033429.40135.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote:Clyde, have you ever been part of a support group ??? YES. Not the ones run by professional folks, just a group of people who share your pain ? BOTH TYPES OF GROUPS. BUT THE SPECIALTY GROUPS ARE SCARCE IN TULSA. TULSA IS A PODUNK METROPOLIS; FOREVER HALF ASSED IN 'MOSTLY EVERYTHING' PARTICULARLY; INDUSTRY. My family (blood, not the people I placed on earth) is so small now, that to lose one is to carve a hole in my existence the size of Texas. I CAN UNDERSTAND LOSS; ONE OF MY YOUNGER BROTHERS DIED IN 98' IN A TRADIC DIRT BIKE ACCIDENT. AFTER THAT, IN 99' I WENT, NOT BY FORCE, BUT BY MY OWN WILL, INTO THE IN-VIRONMENTAL INFUCKTUTION (TORTURE-IN-TUTION). The loss of 3 family members to accidents caused by drunk drivers kind of sent me over the edge. This was worse then anything I had ever had happen to myself. Like Chinese water torture, one, then a month or so later another, then a few weeks later, another. It was 3 -years later that my health went to hell, I found myself having panic episodes, weird, I could not breath. I became allergic to everything I loved to eat. I got kidney stones, developed GERD and super high blood pressure. Never had a headache in my life until now and they were killers. I could not sleep nights and could not stay focused days. I'VE HAD DIFFICULTIES IN SLEEPING AT NIGHTS SINCE BEFORE 98', WHEN MY BROTHER DIED; FROM TRYING TO FIGURE LIFE AND REALITY OUT SO MUCH, AFTER MY MOTHER AND FATHER'S DIVORCE, AND I'M STILL FUCKED UP FROM IT TO THIS DAY. I became angry with everything and everyone I came in contact with. The anger built, at what I did not know, just that I wanted to kill every one and everything that I thought had any control over me. I AM ANGRY AT MOST EVERYTHING, AND MANY PEOPLE NOW. I WANT ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER MY EXISTANCE; MY REALITY; MY LIFE; MY DEATH; AND MY DESTINY. I HAVE WONDERED IF IT IS HUMAN NATURE FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO INTERFERE AND ALWAYS FUCK THINGS UP FOR OTHERS; BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE DONE, IN MY MOSTLY CURSED LIFE. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, BY HEALTH GOING TO HELL. My friends of 20 years or so began to avoid me, IN MY CASE; INSTEAD OF FRIENDS TRYING TO AVOID ME; I TRY TO AVOID OTHERS WHO I HAVE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, BECAUSE I'VE GOT NO GLORY, THOUGH I'VE TRIED LIKE HELL TO WIN GLORY; GLORY JUST HASN'T MATERIALIZED INTO EXISTANCE AND REALITY. I AM TO THE POINT NOW TO WHERE I HATE SO MANY PEOPLE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, PEOPLE MAKE ME NERVOUS TO BE AROUND. my own family treated me as a nut case. MY FUCKED UP FAMILY MOSTLY ALL, THINK I HAVE GONE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. That was the hard part, when they tried to help me, they could not , I had no idea what was wrong with me. How could I talk to them about a problem when I myself had no idea what it was? My own family began to suspect I was on drugs and treated me some what as your grandmother treats you, no matter how well my ideas were worked out, because they came from me, (the family nut case ) they had to disregard them and put me down. YEAH; I SAY FUCK THOSE PEOPLE. TO HELL WITH THEIR HYPOCRISY AND BULLSHIT. MY GRANDMOTHER IS HOLIER THAN THOU; A RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITE WHO THINKS SHE KNOWS IT ALL; AND IS ALSO A NOSY BITCH. SAME WITH THE C--- WICKED WITCH WHO LIVES NEXY DOOR. SHE IS SO FUCKING NOSY, AND SUCH A HARRASSMENT, THAT SHE NEEDS HER NOSE CUT OFF OF HER FACE; SORRY FOR THE SADOMASOCHISTIC REVENGEFULNESS, IN MY FEELINGS. One day a couple of years ago I went into work and a co-worker was taking up a collection for a man I had met only twice at work, his wife and child had been hit broadside by a drunken driver. Wife and 6 year old daughter dead. I gave a couple bucks and put it all out of my mind. OK. Later on, 9 months or so, perhaps longer, I ran into the guy at a party, he was wasted, a mess, no one knew what to do with him so I poured him into my car and drove him home. He blabbered about and I wanted to smack him to be quiet. It was the ride from Hell for me, and him I think. OK. I got him into his house and couldn't wait to get out , when he kind of sobered up. He went on a tirade about how no one understood him and when he threw a golf club at me < I made my exit. OK; THAT IS STRANGE. I discussed this with my life partner and a week later invited him to the house. Everyone left, and he and I had a talk alone. It was an amazing conversation, we were both feeling the same way and had no outlet for our grief. Until that time I had no idea that the deaths in my family were churning in my gut, causing me illness, and he felt alone with his anger. CHURNING IN THE GUT. I KNOW THE FEELINGS. IN MY CASE NOW; IT IS ALSO CHURNING IN THE HEART; AND BOTH HURT LIKE HELL. It became a bond that had us seeking out others with our pain, we found that when grief is shared it becomes less to bare. I'D LIKE TO FIND THE RIGHT KIND OF SUPPORT GROUP/S, BUT THIS PODUNK INDUSTRIAL SLUM MTROPOLIS OF TULSA, HAS A SHORT ROAD TO NOWHERE; AND IS A PRISON; MY HEART WITH WINGS, CHAINED TO THE GROUND OF THIS ALWAYS WITHOUT LASTING HOPE-WORTHLESS WASTELAND. No Doctors, no so called professionals involved, just people who know how you feel and why. YEAH; I AM NOW SEEING THE LIMITS OF ALLOPATHOLOGY, AND THE LIMITS OF THE SO-CALLED PROFESSIONALS, AS I HAVE GROWN IN KNOWLEDGE, THROUGH EXPERIENCE. Search them out Clyde, this saved my sanity and my families sanity, and most of my illnesses have passed, I can breath now and slowly the other problems have calmed down. I MAY HAVE TO MOVE TO A SPECIFIC 'CITY' (OR:SHITTY) TO FIND WHAT I SO DESPERATELY NEED TO FIND, TO RESTORE MY HEALTH AND SANITY. No one calls me the family nut anymore, come to find out, I was not the only one who went boinkers over the deaths. I was so wrapped up in my own feelings I never thought about the damage done to the direct family members. MY MOTHER WAS DEVASTATED, WHEN MY BROTHER DIED, AND SHE WOULD BE DEVASTATED EVEN FURTHER IF I DIED; IT IS MY WILL THOUGH, TO BE A SURVIVOR, AND TO MOVE OUT OF THIS NEVERENDING NONSENSICAL NEVERENDING WASTELAND OF TULSA, TO A CLEAN CITY OR SMALL TOWN SUBURB OF A CITY, IN THE COUNTRY, THAT HAS CLEANLINESS, AND HIGHER ECOLOGICAL AND ATMOSPHERIC QUALITY STANDARDS THAN THIS FUCKING STUPID GODDAMNED EVER-ENDLESS-EVERLASTING EVER HALF-ASSED INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. I was so involved with myself, I never thought about others suffering worse than I. Once I got over the __ME- ME-ME- phase , I began to grow anew again. I USED TO BE LESS OF A SELFISH PERSON, BUT DUE TO OTHER PEOPLE INTERFERING IN MY LIFE, AND ALWAYS SCREWING THINGS UP, I'VE BECOME NEARLY AS SELF CENTERED AS CAN BE. Clyde, stress from the past can kill you, cause your body to wonk out. THE STRESS WILL KILL ME IF I DON'T SLOW DOWN. ONE OF OZZY OSBOURNE'S BEST SONGS IS TITLED: SLOW DOWN. EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT INTO ROCK AND ROLL MUSIC, IT IS A SONG THAT I'D RECOMMEND TO LISTEN TO, FOR ANYONE OUT THERE, BECAUSE OF THE SONG'S MESSAGE. Best to find a group of same people with like problems to rid yourself of your medical problems. RIGHT ON! I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE IN FOREVER INDUSTRIAL HALF- ASSED SLUMTOWN T-TOWN-TULSA. Regards Vesta SINCERELY; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050925/e84db920/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 25 20:35:00 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 25 20:35:12 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOPICS; (SPLIT IN TWO HALVES.). In-Reply-To: <20050926021720.45587.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 25, 2005 07:17:20 PM Message-ID: <20050926033501.23425.qmail@mall-net.com> > (HALF TWO; DUE TO THE K LIMIT SIZE OF THE FULL LENGTH OF THE POSTING:) (Laughing) Nevermind the K limit, sometimes I have to sleep before I finish answering the long ones! > I AM HAVING HEART PALPITATIONS, DRASTIC PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS, Heart palpitations CAN be caused by low blood pressure, low blood volume, as well as other things. > AND NEAR EXPLOSIONS OF MY HEART AT TIMES. Adrenal jags. Yes, I've had them in the past. Biochemical imbalance and certain toxins trigger them. At least I have always been smart enough to identify them for what they were, and correct them. > plethsymogram > IF I COULD AFFORD TO OWN ONE. If you have an oscilloscope, you can try to build one. All you need, is an LED on one side, and a photocell, photodiode or phototransistor on the other. Flesh in the middle, be it ear lobe or little pinkie. I built one like that some forty years ago. It was interesting looking at my broad curves vs my father's sharp curves, showing I had very flexible arteries vs his already hardened arteries. The basic rig consisted of a clear plastic tube, such as some medicines come in, a flashlight bulb on one side, and a photocell on the other. Problem was the battery contacts kept introducing artifacts, the light dimming and flaring if the battery contacts were not good. With an LED, you can add a voltage regulator and capacitor to even that out, _IF_ it proves a problem. A genius like you should be able to fill in the rest of the circuit. (My genius lies elsewhere... I dont' do well with components having an odd number of legs... They tend to go up in smoke in my designs. Software does not smoke, and it is more easily salvageable.) You press the flesh a bit, then look at the transmission curves. > You can buy a real blood pressure cuff rig for $30. > OK. > THERE IS A MEDICAL SUPPLY STORE, ON THE MAIN ROAD NEAR THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB; IF I CAN, I MAY TRY TO GET MY OWN. Try Target, Walgen's, etc. for cheaper prices. Don't get the computerized crap, as eventually you'll want to listen and take three numbers, not just the standard two. > WELL MY CHIROPRACTOR DOESN'T DENY THAT I HAVE HYPERTENSION. > UNLESS IT MAY BE HYPOTENSION. > OR PERHAPS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO; DUE TO THE DRASIC FLUCTUATIONS IN MY BLOOD PRESSURE, FROM EVEN FLOW, TO UNDER FLOW, TO BOILING OVER BLOOD, TO WHITE HOT NUCLEAR BLAST ENERGY, SHOOTING OUT OF THE TOP OF MY CRANIUM. Right. Fluctuations. And adrenal spikes. We need to see what causes the adrenal spikes. Hypoglycemia? Allergies? etc. > With a few weeks of measurement and diary entries, you may begin to > see how you can control blood pressure by diet and attitude. > > > I MAY NOT HAVE THAT LONG; TWO YEARS. Even a few days will be a start. You should make real good progress before the two years are up. (Why do you say two years?) > AND WRITING IN THE DIARY THAT I HAVE, HAS BECOME MINIMAL TO NONE, All you need to note is what you ate, your blood pressures, urine ph, body temperatures. This is a medical log, not so much a log of what you thought or did. > Vacuum energy is usually thought to mean something other than what we normally see and measure. > I USE IT MORE AS A METAPHOR, THAN I DO AS A NATURAL LABEL. Understood. > I AM TRYING MY BEST TO EAT HEALTHY, MOST OF THE TIME NOW. The point is to try to find food allergies, and slowly start rotating the diet to see if we can reduce some of the allergy factors. > > http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ Saved my father's life. > > Lysine is cheap! > > > DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LYINE, AND LYCOPINE? Lysine is an amino acid from corn. It binds with some things in the bloodstream, reducing the creation of deposits in the arteries. Lycopene is a red pigment in fruits and vegetables having some antioxidant properties. Vitamin C is a better antioxidant; but lycopene has other properties which may be beneficial. More important, is eating fruits and vegetable, for a broad range of vegetables will provide a lot of good amino acids and other good stuff! Fruits are good too, having a lot of antioxidants _IF_ _FRESH_. > > PEACE, IN MIND, HEART, BODY, SOUL, AND IN SPIRIT, ETC.... > > I think it's not external, I think you have a > > "chemical imbalance" > > (A CHEMICAL NEUROHORMONAL NEUROTIC AND PSYCHOTIC BROKEN BALANCE.). More like just general thrashing about. Unlike most people, you have the spark of not trusting your doctors and digging for your own information. Thus, you are far, far more likely to work your way out of this than the average person in your situation. > I NOW, LIKE I SAID ABOVE, HAVE DETERMINATION TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. Good! We're cheering you on! > I just totalled my toyota. Due to the rough roads, some spot welds > suffered fatigue fracture, and the McPherson strut punched up my hood > some ten inches. Suggestion is that the car is totaled. Not the first > DAMN. It's just the way life is up here... Beautiful views at times, as you have seen from the photos... but high price! First the loss of productivity due to lack of everything you seem to take for granted, and the loss of time doing everything needed to try to compensate. Open the faucet? Haul the water first! 275 gallons at a time by truck, or when that isn't available about 45 in a 55 gallon drum in the back of the now dead Toyota station wagon. Turn on the lights? Make sure the solar panels are aimed at the sun first, and the batteries are properly watered and charged. Cook some food? Make sure the generators are fueled, ready to be started, etc. Oh, and also the three hour trip to buy anything. One hour driving each way. And the pollution wastes me for the rest of the day. Hot bath? Nope. Three gallon shower, only if you had the pump sprayer hanging before the furnace long enough. Sure, I want a better hot water heater. A lot of things needed before that can be bought and hooked up, not just the cash. My drunken Igor is missing again! Always seems to go missing when I'm about to do anything as important or thought-involving as plan a hot water system! So... you live in the lap of luxury. Except you also have to work like a dog to earn it. Eh, I kind of think you live better than me. > Clyde, no one has complete control over anything. Reasonable > expectations, alternative paths, and just plain not getting upset over > what you can't control, keeps one sane. > > > SINCE I CANNOT HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER MY DESTINY, I NEED TO > GET, AND NEED TO KEEP, PERMANENT PEACE IN MY LIFE. I think all you need, is to identify the causes of your adrenaline jags, and you will have enough peace to do well. Like I say, I've been there when I was allergic to some things in my diet, had a bad candida infection, etc. When we got those things taken care of, the adrenal problems went away. Of course, having spent most of my life in the discipline of thought and logic, the adrenal spikes were not equated with anger. I understood that this was a physiological problem, not anger. > I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT: ALL MODERN MAINSTREAM POLITICIANS ARE WORTHLESS; AND ARE ONLY OUT FOR THEIR GARGANTUAN SELF GAIN, BEFORE THEY ARE BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE. I don't think so. Some, yes. Some are just misguided morons. And most are genuinely concerned citizens trying to do the best they can for this nation. They are just not that bright, influenced by lobbyists, etc. etc. etc. Politics is the art of compromise. Some have more guts and principles than others. But it is not good to just tar and feather them all as being equally bad. I've met a few of them and some weren't that bad. Others... Eh, where's Abscam when you need it? (Abscam was an Arabian influence peddling sting run by the FBI to catch politicians on the take.) > ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS EVEN THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN > POLITICIANS, IT SEEMS. Rare is the person who is not corrupted by power; but those people DO exist! Reagan was one of them. There are a lot of others. > HEAL; THAT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE, AT TIMES, DUE TO LACK-O-MONEY, Nutritional therapy is cheap. > I NEED TO EAT THREE TIMES DAILY, INSTEAD OF EATING ONE GIGANTIC BUFFET MEAL IN THE AFTERNOON EVERY DAY; THAT MAY BE A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM FOR ME; THE DIGESTIVE PROCESS MAY NOT BE DOING AS GOOD AS IT CAN DO FOR ME, WITH ONE GIANT MEAL PER DAY, Whoops! No wonder I was thinking you might have some hypoglycemia type problems. When the body gets critically low on glucose, the adrenals are turned on to try to squeeze glucose out of the liver. This, some people call, the monkey on their back which keeps them up late into the night doing things till they are totally exhausted. > NOT SPLITTING THE MEAL INTO THREE TIMES DAILY; PROBLEM IS, IS THAT > BOTH MY MONEY, AND MY SCHEDULE WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THREE MEALS > PER DAY: MORNING NOON AND EVENING. You are slowly killing yourself this way, also prompting yourself to get fat, as not all the fat is re-converted back to glucose, simply because the process is not efficient. Much on fresh veggies and fruits as you can during the day. (Do not use purple cabbage. this upsets some people. I was once fired simply because I ate purple cabbage for a snack. It upset my stuporvisor. It was a dumb job anyway.) > FROM MY PERSPECTIVE; THE ENTIRE PLANET SHOULD BE DOING WELL. If you get more or less what you contribute, then a lot of nations which have poor planning, self centered leaders, etc. will do just terribly! Indeed, the kleptocracies of the world are also the poorest nations in the world. The democracies are the wealthiest. So the entire planet can not be expected to do well. > BUT THAT HAS TO DO EITHER WITH ALL OF THE GOD'S OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, OR WITH THE GODS OF ANTIQUITY, OR WITH SOME OTHER CRAZY CONTROVERSIAL SHIT, THAT TAKES A LONG TIME TO WRITE OUT. Nah, just the inherent stupidity of mankind. We mad scientists are a cut above the stupids of this world; but we're still not smart enough to be super rich. At least not most of us. (And when we do get rich enough, we are eccentric scientists, not mad scientists.) > I WANT MY OWN NON-NUCLEAR; (ANTI-NUCLEAR) MICRO POWERPLANT RIGHT NOW, AND AN AUTOMOTIVE FORM OF TRAVEL THAT WILL GET ME TO > PLACES FAST, WITHOUT ALL OF THE CEASELESS SENSELESS COMPLICATED BULLSHIT, OF THE INFERNAL FUCKUPTION ENGINE, AND ITS EVERLASTING PROBLEMS AND POLLUTION. But where are you going to go? With your biochemical imbalances, your lack of peace is coming from within you, not from without. Your neurological system is so on the edge that little things which others can ignore, drive you nuts. ANYONE with the symptoms you describe is likely to be on the edge most of the time. WHEN we get those under control, then you will have peace which comes from within, even when the earth is shaking and other people are running around like chickens without heads. Real peace comes from within. To get that, we need to improve health first. When the brain is better supplied with nutrients and such; it will work better, and your life will improve. We'll get there. It may take a little while; but we will get there. The first step is to start measuring things. You can't tell what's going on without objective measurements. When we have them, we start researching things on the web and looking for relationships between foods and exposures, and deviations in measurements. > I WANT A MICRO SPACESHIP, TO LEAVE THIS GOD, MAN, AND GODS DAMNED > PLANET IN PEACE, FOREVER, NEVER TO RETURN TO THIS DAMNED WORLD > EVER AGAIN. And then you will have only yourself to drive you nuts. That's worse than being in a lunatic asylum! > YES; I KNOW THIS WRITING IS ABSURD, BUT WHAT THE HELL; I AM IN HELL, You are thrashing, trying to find out what's wrong with you. That's all. It's to be expected. When you improve your health, by improving the way you eat and how you live, it will pass. Again, most people in this kind of situation just sink. You are persisting in your thrashing, increasing the chance that you will hit some board, cushion, or something else that floats, and thus survive. You will survive. Your persistence will pull you through. > I HOPE THERE IS A BETTER FUTURE AHEAD, THAN THE PICTURE PAINTED BY THE NAZI NEOCON'S, AND BY THE COMMIE NEOLIB'S. People who try to paint a dire picture of the future generally don't want to admit their own failure in building a better one. Life isn't half as bad as it seems to you now. As you get better, life will be seen as better. Relax, we're all rooting for you. You'll pull through. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Sep 25 21:07:33 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Sep 25 21:07:36 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CARDIOVASCULAR STRESS. In-Reply-To: <20050926025302.80607.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 25, 2005 07:53:02 PM Message-ID: <20050926040733.40181.qmail@mall-net.com> > I keep thinking that some of the problems could also be caused by > too low blood pressure, and attempts to compensate. That is why I keep > harping on getting the blood pressure rig. > > I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY; BUT ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSORS, AND LACK-O-MONEY; ("ANTIMONEY"), ARE A BIG DEAL OF IT. I think those are not half as large as you think. But we'll see. > I AM PRETTY WELL CERTAIN, THOUGH I CANNOT VERIFY FOR ABSOLUTE FACT, THAT I HAVE LIVER DAMAGE, DUE TO ALL OF THE GODDAMNED ALLOPATH CHEMICALS. The liver is remarkable in how it regenerates given good food and time. > WHEN I WAKE IN THE MORNINGS NOW, MY CHEST HURTS EVERY TIME, BEFORE I URINATE. Many possible causes ranging from plaster dust, fungi in your blankets, to who knows what. > I AM HAVING SOME DIGESTIVE PROBLEMS. > > FECES THAT IS SOLID, LIKE IT USED TO BE, IN MY YOUNGER DAYS, IS FOR THE MOST PART; NO MORE. Magnesium and vitamin C can help turn them into soft extrusion, not stuck together lumps. Water too, helps. > (lack of magnesium stalls the gut) > > WHEN YOU SAY: STALLS THE GUT; DO YOU MEAN CONSTIPATION? Not just; but that is one symptom. After eating too many carrots once, I found that my stomach was bloated with food which had not gone down. Nearly starving, I had to make myself vomit to have room to eat again. After thinking about this, I determined that the high potassium content of two bags of carrots had driven out so much magnesium in the urine, that there was not enough magnesium to keep the gut working. After I got some magnesium, all was ok again. To test this hypothesis, a week or so later, I ate another two bags of carrots, and when I noticed the stall starting, I took magnesium. No problems! Gut worked, I digested the food, and it went down the rest of the path as it was supposed to go. And with that, I understood why my childhood was so fraught with belly aches, constipation, etc. Dear Mom always gave me carrots whenever I was constipated, making the whole problem that much worse! If you burp up odors of your food some hours after a meal, you might have a magnesium deficiency. Then again, if you are an average American, you DO have a magnesium deficiency! > IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MY URINE HAS HAD SALTY SCENT TO IT AT TIMES, THINK, BUT NOT ALWAYS. More water, etc. Straw colored or deep yellow? Straw to clear indicates a lack of B vitamins. > (Not to mention bad breath as per above.) > > YEAH. Hmmm... > So you see, you may or may not have high blood pressure. My bet is > that you have episodes of both high AND low blood pressure. > > > THAT IS A CERTAINTY! > But most important, is monitoring the blood pressure several times a day for a few weeks to see what's going on. > I CAN HAVE MY NURSE MOTHER MONITOR MY BLOOD PRESSURE FOR A FEW WEEKS WORTH OF TIME; THE TIMES OF DAILY MEASUREMENT WILL HAVE TO BE CHAOTIC. Nope! Clyde, you have to do this alone. That way, there is no one else to make you nervous, rattle you on what they read, etc. When mine is high, I take it over and over again every few minutes as I try to work out what is keeping it up there. I often trigger the wave of relaxation that way. Someone else taking it just won't understand. Especially a trained nurse who thinks that blood pressure is some static reading. It isn't! You can change it up and down over a span of some thirty to fifty points when you learn how and practice. And that is one of the thing which you need to learn how to do. I have to laugh about one stunt I pulled on a cute nurse. She came in to take my blood pressure. Having fooled around quite a bit with an EKG in those days, I paced my heartbeat to the background music. As she left she gave me a funny look indicating she really didn't want to believe what she had just witnessed. I think I laughed. We knew these people, my father went fishing with them often enough. They knew I was a little strange. Another time I chided them for their ultrasonic motion detecting alarm system. Worthless I called it. Prove it. Ok, so I moved slowly enough to go into the zone, pick something up, and moved slowly back out of the zone. Real slow motion, with the hard part being keeping the balance so as not to have to move too suddenly to recover it. They laughed the good laugh of appreciation at something seemingly impossible. It's been a long time since I saw them... Good people! Most people are good; you just have to get to know them, and they you. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 26 05:01:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 26 05:01:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOPICS; (SPLIT IN TWO HALVES.). In-Reply-To: <20050926033501.23425.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050926120125.93802.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > WELL MY CHIROPRACTOR DOESN'T DENY THAT I HAVE HYPERTENSION. > UNLESS IT MAY BE HYPOTENSION. > OR PERHAPS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO; DUE TO THE DRASIC FLUCTUATIONS IN MY BLOOD PRESSURE, FROM EVEN FLOW, TO UNDER FLOW, TO BOILING OVER BLOOD, TO WHITE HOT NUCLEAR BLAST ENERGY, SHOOTING OUT OF THE TOP OF MY CRANIUM. Right. Fluctuations. And adrenal spikes. We need to see what causes the adrenal spikes. Hypoglycemia? Allergies? etc. I THINK A LARGE PART OF IT IS THAT I HAVE TREMENDOUS MOTIVATIONS ALL OF THE TIME, TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS-TO MOVE MOUNTAINS, BUT 'ANTIMONEY' SUPPRESSES ME AND LIKEWISE STRESSES ME; OVERKILL. I think all you need, is to identify the causes of your adrenaline jags, and you will have enough peace to do well. YES. Like I say, I've been there when I was allergic to some things in my diet, had a bad candida infection, etc. MY OBSTINANT DOCTOR WILL NOT ADMIT TO IF IT IS CANDIDA THAT I HAVE, IN MY MOUTH. SMALL WATER BUMPS THAT DON'T ITCH OR HURT; THEY ARE JUST THERE, AND THEY FLARE UP WITH CERTAIN FOOD AND DRINK INTAKE. When we got those things taken care of, the adrenal problems went away. Of course, having spent most of my life in the discipline of thought and logic, the adrenal spikes were not equated with anger. I understood that this was a physiological problem, not anger. You are thrashing, trying to find out what's wrong with you. That's all. It's to be expected. When you improve your health, by improving the way you eat and how you live, it will pass. I DO NEED TO MONITIOR WHAT FOODS THAT I INTAKE. Again, most people in this kind of situation just sink. You are persisting in your thrashing, increasing the chance that you will hit some board, cushion, or something else that floats, and thus survive. YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE BED MATTRESS AND BED LINENS BEING A POSSIBLE PROBLEM. THE MATTRESS IS A PIECE OF SHIT. I REMEMBER MY GRANDMOTHER BRINGING IT (THE MATTRESS) FROM OUT OF TOWN, USED, NASTY LOOKING, AND UGLY. THAT MATTRESS COULD CERATINLY BE A LARGE PROBLEM IN MY ABILITY TO BREATHE GOODLY AND CLEANLY. You will survive. I WANT TO SURVIVE; EVEN IF IT MEANS TEARING (RIPPING) SOMEONE APART WITH MY BARE HANDS, TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS, THAT I AM SUFFERING AND NO ONE IS DOING ME MUCH GOOD. Your persistence will pull you through. I HAVE THE WILL (EVEN THOUGH MY DAD IS DEAD), TO BREAK MY DAD, LIKE HE HAS BROKEN ME. SURVIVAL IS MY WILL. MY FATHER PROBABLY HAD NO THOUGHTS ABOUT HIS HEALTH AND SURVIVAL. GOTTA GO TO WORK; GOTTA BE THERE AT 7:00 A.M. C.S.T. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050926/9d454ff5/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 26 11:56:21 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 26 11:56:38 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Space Elevator reaches 1000 feet Message-ID: <003701c5c2cb$fc823af0$d0c5bc41@mikey> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9454786/ From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Sep 26 11:59:47 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Sep 26 12:00:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Another victory for despots Message-ID: <003801c5c2cc$77ce8fb0$d0c5bc41@mikey> Bill Would Permit DNA Collection From All Those Arrested By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, September 24, 2005; Page A03 Suspects arrested or detained by federal authorities could be forced to provide samples of their DNA that would be recorded in a central database under a provision of a Senate bill to expand government collection of personal data. The controversial measure was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee last week and is supported by the White House, but has not gone to the floor for a vote. It goes beyond current law, which allows federal authorities to collect and record samples of DNA only from those convicted of crimes. The data are stored in an FBI-maintained national registry that law enforcement officials use to aid investigations, by comparing DNA from criminals with evidence found at crime scenes. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/23/AR2005092301 665.html or: http://snipurl.com/hxi9 From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 26 12:18:36 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 26 12:18:57 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Another victory for despots In-Reply-To: <003801c5c2cc$77ce8fb0$d0c5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Sep 26, 2005 02:59:47 PM Message-ID: <20050926191836.90762.qmail@mall-net.com> > Suspects arrested or detained by federal authorities could be forced to > provide samples of their DNA that would be recorded in a central = > database > under a provision of a Senate bill to expand government collection of > personal data. How does that differ from, say, fingerprinting suspects? The charter for some forensic fingerprint society says that anyone who expresses any doubt on the stand regarding the accuracy of finger print evidence, shall be charged with conduct unbecoming. Fingerprints are, in fact, not unique. Metrics of distorted fingerprints left by persons, say pushing, pulling, or otherwise stressing their fingertips can result in incorrect identification. Recent computerized tests have shown fingerprints, even ideal fingerprint sets, can produce false matches. In contrast, DNA evidence is publicly acknowledged to have accuracy limits. Photographs, fingerprints, DNA, and retinal scans are forms of identification, much like the less reliable driver license numbers and social security numbers. One would think that the standards for DNA sample collection and recording should be no different from standards for obtaining and retaining any other identification information. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 26 20:23:41 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 26 20:23:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050927032341.74631.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.liberation-matrix.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050926/7ae9a5a0/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 26 22:15:12 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 26 22:15:15 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050927032341.74631.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 26, 2005 08:23:41 PM Message-ID: <20050927051512.9909.qmail@mall-net.com> > > http://www.liberation-matrix.com/ > More lunatic paranoid garbage. Or is it paranoid lunatic garbage? Whatever! It's garbage! These guys are probably wearing aluminum foil helmets in fear of the CIA reading their minds. Not that the CIA would care about loosers like these even if they could read minds! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 26 23:25:55 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 26 23:26:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050927051512.9909.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050927062555.25717.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > http://www.liberation-matrix.com/ More lunatic paranoid garbage. Or is it paranoid lunatic garbage? Whatever! It's garbage! These guys are probably wearing aluminum foil helmets in fear of the CIA reading their minds. Not that the CIA would care about losers like these even if they could read minds! I DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT KIND OF REPLY TO THE WEBLINK. INTERESTING RESPONSE THOUGH. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050926/5b907933/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Sep 26 23:34:56 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Sep 26 23:35:09 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF JUNK E-MAILS, CONSTANTLY FILLING UP MY YAHOO BULK E-MAIL INBOX. In-Reply-To: <6WP36H0IYWJ@11FH0EN12KRB1> Message-ID: <20050927063457.44893.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> JOHN, MY BULK E-MAIL INBOX IS CONSTANTLY FILLING UP WITH SHIT E-MAILS LIKE THIS ONE. CAN YOU INFORM ME AS TO IF THIS TYPE OF E-MAIL IS SPYWARE? IF SO; CAN I CONTACT YAHOO, TO FIND OUT IF THEY CAN REMEDY THE PROBLEM; OR COULD THIS JUNK E-MAIL CRAP, BE A PERMANENT THING THAT I CAN'T RID MYSELF OF? MAYBE IGOR CAN SCRUB THIS E-MAIL FROM THE MAD SCI WEBSITE, AFTER REPLY, JUST IN CASE IT MAY INFECT OTHER COMPUTERS OUT THERE TOO. CLYDE Gas Pump Validation wrote: tag for older email client support --> To unsubscribe from receiving future advertisements from FillYourTank, click here. Clyde Lofton of , on 2005-09-06 12:36:20 with the following IP address 68.0.71.129 Mountain Crest Marketing 1835 Newport Blvd. A109-PMB121 Costa Mesa, CA 92627 clydelofton@yahoo.com If you believe this is spam, click here. --------------------------------- To unsubscribe, click here. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050926/e943cda2/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Sep 26 23:51:56 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Sep 26 23:52:02 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF JUNK E-MAILS, In-Reply-To: <20050927063457.44893.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 26, 2005 11:34:56 PM Message-ID: <20050927065156.61238.qmail@mall-net.com> > MY BULK E-MAIL INBOX IS CONSTANTLY FILLING UP WITH > SHIT E-MAILS LIKE THIS ONE. > CAN YOU INFORM ME AS TO IF THIS TYPE OF E-MAIL IS > SPYWARE? Don't open it, and it won't install spyware. I get hundreds of pieces of this kind of crap an hour. Just junk them! > IF SO; CAN I CONTACT YAHOO, TO FIND OUT IF THEY CAN > REMEDY THE PROBLEM; No one cares! > OR COULD THIS JUNK E-MAIL CRAP, BE A PERMANENT > THING THAT I CAN'T RID MYSELF OF? Get a spam filter. They don't work well, but they are better than nothing. > MAYBE IGOR CAN SCRUB THIS E-MAIL FROM THE MAD SCI > WEBSITE, AFTER REPLY, JUST IN CASE IT MAY INFECT > OTHER COMPUTERS OUT THERE TOO. If you don't click, it won't infect. Spammers should be drawn and quartered the old fashioned way. A firing squad is too good for them! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Not that they always listen to me... From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 06:09:11 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 06:09:20 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNFREE. In-Reply-To: <20050922063305.55137.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050927130911.26227.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote: < javilk@mall-net.com > wrote: UNFREE: 1. FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE; 2. ENERGY DEPENDENCE; 3. CHEMICAL DEPENDENCE. NOW I CAN PLANILY SEE HOW UNFREE THAT TULSA, THAT OKLAHOMA, THAT AMERICA, AND THAT THIS ENTIRE PLANET ARE. But you have not compared this with the tyranny of life! We have to eat! YES. We can't be totally free if we have to eat several times a day, can we? NO. Ok, so we are only relatively free. Relative to what, you ask... Relative to the dictatorships, the old USSR, the Chinese communists and other governments who have thought police, who kill others for holding the wrong opinions. Relative to governments with 50% and higher tax rates that they use for "social services" THIS COUNTRY IS COMING EVER CLOSER-EVER FASTER, TOWARD A COMPLETE SOCIALIST STATE, UNDER MEDIA, UNDER FINANCIAL, UNDER ENERGY, AND UNDER CHEMIKAL PHARMA-PSEUDO-KOLOGIKAL TOTALITARIANISM. AND YEAH: THOUGHT POLICE DO EXIST HERE IN AMERIKA, AS I HAVE CRUELLY LEARNED; IN THE (ENVIRON-MENTAL) INVIRON-MENTAL INFUCKTUTION TORTURE CHAMBER OF TORTURE CHAMBERS-SO-CALLED HOSPITAL. OVERTAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS A REALITY, HERE, WHERE I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO PRESENTLY RESIDE. (AND 'OVERZONATION' WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS ALSO A MOUNTAINLOAD BURDEN STRESS UPON ME, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN; WITH THE STRESS OF AN ELEPHANT STANDING ON MY CHEST; DIRECTLY OVER, AND ON, MY HEART.). I NEED A PERMANANT VACATION TO THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, IN COLORADO; TO AN ABSOLUTELY IDEAL LOCATION, IN COLORADO, WITH AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN, SLEEPING GAS, AND MORPHINE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/dd2ad651/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 14:25:26 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 14:25:57 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONSTITUTION PARTY D.V.D.'s AVAILABLE. 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Please visit our website at www.constitutionparty.org. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/f06bc30a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 14:53:19 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 14:53:24 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM SICK OF ALLOPATHOLOGY. Message-ID: <20050927215319.98588.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> I AM SICK OF ALLOPATHOLOGY. CHEMISTRY HAS RUINED ME. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CLYDE Reminder web addresses; Part eight: 1. http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/flouride090105.cfm 2. http://www.tomsofmaine.com 3. http://chirocity.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1573 4. http://namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?MORGAN_JOHN_PIERPONT%20%28%31%38%33%37%2D%31%39%31%33%29 5. http://www.namebase.org/main2/Federal-Reserve-System.html 6. http://www.angelfire.com/dc/undersiege/usa.html 7. http://www.estreet.com/business/cpm/FederalReserve.html 8. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes%3Bread=55495 9. http://www.rumormillnews.com/WHO_OWNS_FED.htm 10. http://www.sonic.net/~doretk/Issues/00-12%20Winter/chaseman.html 11. http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/05-government/E-new-world-order/2004/05E-03-31-04-chase-manhattans-right-wing-relationship.html 12. http://www.gaiaselene.com 13. http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/american%20health%20system2.htm 14. http://www.garynull.com/documents/iatrogenic/deathbymedicine/deathbymedicine1.htm 15. http://www.quackpotwatch.org 16. http://www.northamericanconsumersagainsthealthfraud.org/cgi-bin/mojo.cgi?f=s&1=one 17. http://www.rense.com/general67/tractor.htm 18. http://www.rense.com/ 19. http://www.proverbs4v7.com/oxygen/book.html 20. http://www.johnKaminski.com/ 21. http://www.rense.com/general67/znsm.htm 22. http://pesn.com/2005/09/06/9600160_Weather_Modification/ 23. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosis 24. http://www.lifetechnology.org/ 25. http://www.dnaperfection.com/pages/1 26. http://www.map.org/site/pp.asp?c=fsJRK2PGJpH&b=720551 --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/9f634ce0/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 15:56:35 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 15:56:41 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHY IS DENTAL HEALTH SO IMPORTANT? Message-ID: <20050927225635.43357.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> Why Is Dental Health So Important? A bright, healthy smile is something everyone wants. But healthy teeth and gums are important for more than cosmetic reasons. Imagine having an untreated infection in your finger. It would cause pain and discomfort, and eventually it could threaten your circulatory, cardiovascular, and other biological systems. You'd want to treat this problem right away, wouldn't you? Good oral care not only helps you avoid dental diseases, which the 2000 U.S. Surgeon General's Report on Oral Health calls a "silent epidemic;" it may also prevent other, more serious medical conditions. Indeed far from being seperate from the rest of the body, your mouth is a good indicator of your overall, or systemic, health. http://www.tomsofmaine.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/6ae5cc42/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 16:11:37 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 16:11:46 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY. In-Reply-To: <20050925042949.40130.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050927231137.82110.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY: http://www.proverbs4v7.com/oxygen/book.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/e89d98eb/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 16:23:58 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 16:24:03 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF JUNK E-MAILS. In-Reply-To: <20050927065156.61238.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050927232358.36871.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > MY BULK E-MAIL INBOX IS CONSTANTLY FILLING UP WITH > SHIT E-MAILS. *IS ANYONE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHERE THE JUNK E-MAILS GO, WHEN THEY ARE DELETED??? THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT GO TO THE TRASH BIN; THEY GO ELSEWHERE; BUT WHERE??? TO YAHOO??? DO THEY GO SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE HOMECOMPUTER SYSTEM ITSELF, OR DOES YAHOO DEAL WITH ALL OF THAT SHIT, WHEN I DELETE IT???* I get hundreds of pieces of this kind of crap an hour. Just junk them! Get a spam filter. *THIS COMPUTER HAS A FIREWALL; NORTON ANTI-VIRUS. I THINK NORTON ANTI-VIRUS IS A FIREWALL ISN'T IT??? They don't work well, but they are better than nothing. If you don't click, it won't infect. I DON'T CLICK ON ANY OF THE PORTIONS OF THE INTERIOR OF THOSE E-MAILS. HOW ABOUT CLICKING ON THE E-MAIL ITSELF, ONLY TO OPEN IT; WILL THAT STILL OPEN SPYWARE, AND INFECT THE COMPUTER??? Spammers should be drawn and quartered the old fashioned way. A firing squad is too good for them! RIGHT! ; I AGREE!!! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/091d52d1/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 16:41:32 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 16:41:44 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] POTENTIAL MARKETS. Message-ID: <20050927234132.20823.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> POTENTIAL MARKETS: TALKING CLOCK BEACONS FOR: 1. LOW POWER MARINE AND MARINA BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS. 2. RADIO AMATEURS. 3. RADIO AMATEUR REPEATER OWNERS. 4. N.A.S.A. (NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION). 5. N.I.S.T. (NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY). 6. N.O.A.A. (NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION). 7. COAST GUARD LOW POWER BROADCAST CLOCKBEACONS. 8. WEATHER STATIONS. 9. HOSPITAL INSTITUTIONS. 10. SECURITY GUARD POSTS, AND STATIONS. 11. AIRPORTS. 12. BUS DEPOTS. 13. TRAIN STATION-DEPOTS. 14. EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. 15. THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY. 16. THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. 17. ETC. ETC. ETC. CLYDE LOFTON __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/b8a8045d/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 27 17:07:12 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 27 17:07:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY. In-Reply-To: <20050927231137.82110.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 27, 2005 04:11:37 PM Message-ID: <20050928000712.27491.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY: > > http://www.proverbs4v7.com/oxygen/book.html Oxygen therapy can cause serious side effects in some individuals, such as myself, who have problems with maintaining proper blood pH. These may suffer symptoms for weeks as breathing is upset. See also http://www.mcsrr.org/ -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 20:16:21 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 20:16:26 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA CRAZINESS, THIS EVENING. Message-ID: <20050928031621.48262.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM BROADCAST MEDIA CRAZINESS, THIS EVENING: IN ORDER FOR DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL TO TAKE PLACE, IN THE MORON-ALITY CRISIS; ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND MORALITY HAVE TO HAVE A MERGER WITH ONE ANOTHER. THE DUMBASS "CONSERVATIVE" SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS CANNOT GET THIS THROUGH THEIR HEADS, WHILE THE LIBERAL CHRISTIANS ENDLESSLY PLAY THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, ENDLESSLY SCREWING THINGS UP JUST AS EQUALLY AS THE SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN'S OBSTINANCE IN PROMOTING MORALITY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, NEGLECTING DESPERATELY NEEDED CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGIES WHICH WILL CLEAN UP THE ECOLOGY, CLEAN UP THE ATMOSPHERE, CLEAN UP THE HEALTH OF ALL PEOPLE, AND WHICH WILL EVEN ERADICATE DISEASE. MY CRAZY CONCLUSION: CONSERVATIVISM AND LIBERALISM ARE BOTH; ENVIRON- -MENTAL DISORDERS. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/348f8f93/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Sep 27 21:56:02 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Sep 27 21:56:08 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY. In-Reply-To: <20050928000712.27491.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050928045602.36847.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY: > > http://www.proverbs4v7.com/oxygen/book.html Oxygen therapy can cause serious side effects in some individuals, such as myself, who have problems with maintaining proper blood pH. These may suffer symptoms for weeks as breathing is upset. I HAVE KEPT TELLING MY DOCTORS THAT I WANT TO TRY OXYGEN THERAPY, BUT THE DOCTORS OF THE SERPENTS IN THE TREE OF LIFE; (CADUCEUS), ARE REFUSING OXYGEN THERAPY FOR ME. See also http://www.mcsrr.org/ I NO LONGER HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT I HAVE CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING, EVEN THOUGH I AM TOO GOD DAMNED POOR TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE TEST INSTRUMENT TO DETECT IT. I MAY ALSO BE SUFFERING FROM FAR TOO MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE IN BOTH THE ATMOSPHERE HERE, AND IN MY LUNGS. MOLD; DUST; POLLEN; DUST MITES; PULVERIZED CONCRETE DUST; DIRT; YEARS OF LINT IN THE INDOOR AIR; METHANE- POSSIBLY IN THE AIR AS WELL; ALL OF THE SHIT FROM THE CONSTANTLY 24/7 TRAVELLED ROADS SURROUNDING THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB; CHEMICALS IN THE ATMOSPHERE OF THIS INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB FROM ALL OF THE INDUSTRY BUSINESSES THAT SURROUND; CHEMICALS STORED IN THE HOUSE AND OUT IN THE GARAGE; CHEMICALS, POLLUTANTS, TOXINS, MUTANTS, ETC. - IN THE CRAP WATER; (IN THE TAP WATER); AND CHEMICALS THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH - AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THAT EDGAR ALLAN POE POSTER WHICH IS PICTURED ON THAT WEBSITE. I REMEMBER YOU SENDING THAT WEBLINK IN AN E-MAIL POSTING A LONG LONG TIME AGO, BUT I'VE GOT SO MANY E-MAILS PILED UP NOW, THAT I AM MOSTLY LOST IN THEM ALL. CLYDE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050927/10b0c4e3/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 27 22:16:39 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 27 22:16:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928031621.48262.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 27, 2005 08:16:21 PM Message-ID: <20050928051639.96622.qmail@mall-net.com> > IN ORDER FOR DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL TO TAKE PLACE, > IN THE MORON-ALITY CRISIS; ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND > MORALITY HAVE TO HAVE A MERGER WITH ONE ANOTHER. I don't see the connection. When one is short of energy, one is less likely to explore, to experiment, etc. This is the core of conservativism -- stick with what works. When one has plenty of energy, one is far more willing to try things which might fail. While this is not the core of Liberalism, this does favor it. People are liberal when they help others. Eventually, they see that most people who are being helped, don't really want to do anything, just take the help. Give a man a fish, and he will eat today. Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for the rest of his life. Most liberals give the man a fish. Most conservatives are reluctant to give the fish, having done so and seeing that it does nothing; but they are willing to teach others to fish. > > MY CRAZY CONCLUSION: > CONSERVATIVISM AND LIBERALISM ARE BOTH; ENVIRON- > -MENTAL DISORDERS. I don't think so. While I favor some balance, I tend to be rather conservative. Like many conservatives, I believe that values are more important than people. Why? Because people die; but values drive long term change, the change which made the difference between the ancient world and the present. It was Athena who came and taught the peoples of Greece the value of learning and trying different things. Before, they were hut dwelling shepherds. With that set of values, in several generations they started building what would become Athens, and later a culture influencing a great region around the Medeterranian. Those are the values which created Western Civilization. Contrast that with Africa. It isn't genes! Africans are not genetically dumb; I've met and worked with some rather sharp ones! Tribal culture just didn't emphasize the value of improving things. Not in Africa, not in most of Pre-Columbian America. We had this in the Dark Ages as well; where everyone was supposed to be equal. Sure, in the eyes of God! But when the church burned the distinguished and able as witches, much wisdom was lost. That wisdom took a LONG time to re-discover. Who was Athena? That's a good question! My take on it is that She was as much a prophet as Jesus; a real person or persons who survived the Great Flood (or a prelude to the Great Flood) approximately 7400 years ago, and arriving in Greece, taught the skills and values she knew in effort to recreate the world she had known. The values, teachings, as well as key personality traits based upon the values, held together and inspired tales. With that, much as Jesus, Buddha, and others were deified for their teachings, and to keep their teachings and values intact, so was She. That's why I favor Her over all the others. Liberals give the man a fish. Conservatives try to help the man learn to fish; and in time, see that not all men want to fish for themselves. As long as there are enough Liberals, they don't have to. They can freely waste the efforts and surpluses which could have gone in to creating new things, into experimentation, exploration of the moon and beyond, etc. Liberals forgive and forgive again and again, letting men and women sin and squander. Conservatives are more willing to write off those who appear ineducable, or just plain don't want the bother of learning. For we conservatives understand that the (economic) value a society holds is limited and insufficient to do all which would better the world for everyone. More people are liberal when young. As they learn from the world, seeing that giving the man the fish not only does nothing for tomorrow, but deprives them of their hard caught fish; they tend to turn conservative. As, I think it was Churchill who pointed out. (Though I think someone else said much the same earlier.) -J- (C) 2005, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Sep 27 22:25:21 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Sep 27 22:25:27 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY. In-Reply-To: <20050928045602.36847.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 27, 2005 09:56:02 PM Message-ID: <20050928052521.1989.qmail@mall-net.com> > > THE SUPPRESSION OF OXYGEN THERAPY: > > > > http://www.proverbs4v7.com/oxygen/book.html > > Oxygen therapy can cause serious side effects in some individuals, > such as myself, who have problems with maintaining proper blood pH. > These may suffer symptoms for weeks as breathing is upset. > I HAVE KEPT TELLING MY DOCTORS THAT I WANT TO TRY > OXYGEN THERAPY, BUT THE DOCTORS OF THE SERPENTS IN > THE TREE OF LIFE; (CADUCEUS), ARE REFUSING OXYGEN > THERAPY FOR ME. As well they should; it is hard on the lungs and can cause much trouble if not really needed. You can, of course, buy welding oxygen and let a little out in your room from time to time. Or dump a gallon or so of hydrogen peroxide and let it bubble up in short order. > See also http://www.mcsrr.org/ > I NO LONGER HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT I HAVE CARBON > MONOXIDE POISONING, EVEN THOUGH I AM TOO GOD DAMNED > POOR TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE TEST INSTRUMENT TO > DETECT IT. Proof is important, as it is easy to mistake, and thus to harm oneself. > I MAY ALSO BE SUFFERING FROM FAR TOO MUCH CARBON > DIOXIDE IN BOTH THE ATMOSPHERE HERE, AND IN MY LUNGS. This is quite doubtful, unless your home is exceptionally well sealed. And then, would only be in your home. > MOLD; DUST; POLLEN; DUST MITES; PULVERIZED CONCRETE > DUST; DIRT; YEARS OF LINT IN THE INDOOR AIR; METHANE- > POSSIBLY IN THE AIR AS WELL; ALL OF THE SHIT FROM THE > CONSTANTLY 24/7 TRAVELLED ROADS SURROUNDING THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUMBURB; CHEMICALS IN THE ATMOSPHERE OF THIS INDUSTRIAL > SLUMBURB FROM ALL OF THE INDUSTRY BUSINESSES THAT > SURROUND; CHEMICALS STORED IN THE HOUSE AND OUT IN THE > GARAGE; CHEMICALS, POLLUTANTS, TOXINS, MUTANTS, ETC. - IN > THE CRAP WATER; (IN THE TAP WATER); AND CHEMICALS THAT I > HAVE TO WORK WITH - AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. These will not cause the same physiological effects as excess carbon dioxide. You may well have other problems, but carbon dioxide isn't likely one of them. Again, it is necessary to measure so as to know what is needed. Otherwise one wastes much time, effort, and money pursuing things which do not help rectify the underlying conditions. It may well be long term exposure to carbon MONoxide, or any number of other things. Do get that extra sensitive carbon monoxide detector from http;//www.aeromedix.com as I mentioned earlier. > I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THAT EDGAR ALLAN POE POSTER > WHICH IS PICTURED ON THAT WEBSITE. Write to them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 06:24:17 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 06:24:22 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928051639.96622.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050928132417.34406.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Liberals give the man a fish. Conservatives try to help the man learn to fish; and in time, see that not all men want to fish for themselves. As long as there are enough Liberals, they WHEN YOU SAY THEY; ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CONSERVATIVES, OR TO THE LIBERALS? don't have to. They can freely waste the efforts and surpluses which could have gone in to creating new things, into experimentation, exploration of the moon and beyond, etc. DID MANY PEOPLE CONSIDER PRESIDENT JOHN KENNEDY TO BE WASTEFUL, FOR SENDING MEN TO THE MOON? WAS JOHN KENNEDY CONSIDERED TO BE A LIBERAL, A CONSERVATIVE, OR SEEN TO BE FROM BOTH SIDES; LIBERALISM AND CONSERVATIVISM? "PRESIDENT" BUSH WAS FIRST SEEN AS A CONSERVATIVE. BUT NOW, DUE TO THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL WASTE, OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A WORTHLESS COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE BEAST, WITH NO THOUGH AT ALL OF HOW TO REPAIR THE "BLACKHOLE" ; (BLOODHOLE) THAT IT HAS MADE IN THIS COUNTRY; BANKRUPTCY; RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: DR. MICHAEL SAVAGE IS IN SHOCK AT SUCH LIBERALISM IN A SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT. GITMO IS A NAZI KONCENTRATION KAMP; OR A GULAG; OR CONSIDERED TO BE BOTH? BUT IF A LIBERAL LIKE HILLARY, OR ANOTHER LIBERAL TAKES OFFICE NEXT; ARE WE GOING TO HAVE RUSSIAN GULAGS? I'M CONFUSED ANYWAY; WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONCENTRATION CAMP, AND A GULAG, IF ANY; THEY ARE BOTH PRISONS, AND ARE PLACES OF TORTURE, FOR THEIR INHABITANTS - (PRISONERS). IN MY VIEW; THE LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES ALIKE, ARE MAKING ME SUFFER. 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Critics of ID--including Eric Rothschild, the attorney representing eight families who are challenging a Dover Area School District policy on the grounds that it violates the constitutional separation of church and state--believe ID is a religious theory with no real scientific underpinnings. http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/showstoryts.cfm?Articleid=5878 From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 10:08:28 2005 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Wed Sep 28 10:08:43 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONSTITUTION PARTY D.V.D.'s AVAILABLE. In-Reply-To: <20050927212526.59019.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050928170828.63365.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com> Clyde, I have no interest in the professions of the constitution party. I believe that I am happier being the sybaritic leftie that I am. 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Message-ID: <20050928172230.66084.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> 1. http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm 2. https://secure.outflow.net/cchr/pub.htm 3. http://www.cchr.org/educate/book.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/ca7553c3/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 28 10:35:57 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 28 10:36:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928132417.34406.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 28, 2005 06:24:17 AM Message-ID: <20050928173557.61495.qmail@mall-net.com> > Liberals give the man a fish. Conservatives try to help the man > learn to fish; and in time, see that not all men want to fish for > themselves. As long as there are enough Liberals, > they > > WHEN YOU SAY THEY; ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CONSERVATIVES, OR > > TO THE LIBERALS? Liberals enable people not to fish. > don't have to. > They can freely waste the efforts and surpluses which could have gone in > to creating new things, into experimentation, exploration of the moon > and beyond, etc. > > DID MANY PEOPLE CONSIDER PRESIDENT JOHN KENNEDY TO BE WASTEFUL, FOR SENDING MEN TO THE MOON? Some did, some didn't. Johnson and Nixon through there were other higher priorities given how the blacks were ready to riot. > WAS JOHN KENNEDY CONSIDERED TO BE A LIBERAL, A CONSERVATIVE, OR > SEEN TO BE FROM BOTH SIDES; LIBERALISM AND CONSERVATIVISM? He had more liberal aspects than conservative aspects; but the thing he did, was take charge of things. He was willing to push the limits; as he did in the Cuban Missle Crisis, and a lot of other things. Seems he had Addison's disease. He was not going to become anything. Then a doctor started giving him low dose cortisol shots, and he "woke up". This suden enabling, sudden gain in energy turned him from a very conservative and nearly hopeless guy into an adventurous person who believed he could survive almost anything. In addition to the adventurouseness in politics, he was also highly adventrurous with women, one of the biggest womanizers ever to hold office. In those days, the press didn't report it. Today, he'd make Clinton look like a piker! And I think, been thrown out of office for it all! So he wasn't a conservative. But he wasn't really a liberal either. Reagan saw that the willingness to DO things and encourage people was important. Reagan borrowed a lot of that from Kennedy long before he came to office, giving speeches for General Electric company to imspire employees to work better. He did that for many, many years. Some sa that is where he learned the art of speechmaking. I first remember him taking over from an old guy on the TV show Death Valley Days. The show was about some of the little people who settled the West and helped build the America we know. Inspiring stories showing that action and that level of every day bravery are just as important as wisdom. The old guy looked like he had actually witnessed some of it. Then on comes this young guy. I was dissapointed.. I wanted to hear the stories from someone who had been there. (I was maybe seven years old.) Reagan did a wonderful job, was more inspiring with his comments than the old guy had been. Won me over! > "PRESIDENT" BUSH WAS FIRST SEEN AS A CONSERVATIVE. He still is. > BUT NOW, DUE TO THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL WASTE, OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A WORTHLESS COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE BEAST, WITH NO THOUGH AT ALL OF HOW TO REPAIR THE "BLACKHOLE" ; (BLOODHOLE) THAT IT HAS MADE IN THIS COUNTRY; BANKRUPTCY; RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: DR. MICHAEL SAVAGE IS IN SHOCK AT SUCH LIBERALISM IN A SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT. > GITMO IS A NAZI KONCENTRATION KAMP; OR A GULAG; OR CONSIDERED TO BE BOTH? The case can be made that the war is necessary. I tend to agree, as had Saddam built the weapons he was trying to build, had we been right, he would set the Middle East aflame in war. He was killing a ot of his people for disagreeing with him, etc. etc. We really should have taken him out in Gulf War I. > BUT IF A LIBERAL LIKE HILLARY, OR ANOTHER LIBERAL TAKES OFFICE NEXT; > ARE WE GOING TO HAVE RUSSIAN GULAGS? That would take a heck of a lot more than any one bad presedent could do! Congress, our courts, nevermind our military, would not allow that to happen. > I'M CONFUSED ANYWAY; WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONCENTRATION CAMP, AND A GULAG, IF ANY; THEY ARE BOTH PRISONS, > AND ARE PLACES OF TORTURE, FOR THEIR INHABITANTS - (PRISONERS). The gulags, where I lost some relatives, were living places of such harsh conditions that most people are expected to die, much like the concentration camps of Hitler. In contrast, our resettlement camps for the Japanese Americans did not create harsh conditions where deaths were expected. > IN MY VIEW; THE LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES ALIKE, ARE MAKING ME > SUFFER. Your health and your attitudes are what make you suffer. Your health, by dragging you down and preventing in-del;th thought, as well as preventing you from gaining the kinds of positive experiences which show wone life is good and that wone can prevail. Your attitude is as a direct result of your health and lack of experiences. The adrenal jags you experience basically deraila lot of baground thoughts which organize most of our lives. > IT WOULD SEEM TOO, THAT THEY ARE ALSO MAKING US ALL SUFFER, EQUALLY. They don't. That's why I say that your attitude is the real problem. But your attitude is driven by your health. got to go, the mover jjust came. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 28 11:45:56 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 28 11:46:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928173557.61495.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Sep 28, 2005 05:35:57 PM Message-ID: <20050928184556.3548.qmail@mall-net.com> > > > Liberals give the man a fish. Conservatives try to help the man > > learn to fish; and in time, see that not all men want to fish for > > themselves. As long as there are enough Liberals, > > they > > > > WHEN YOU SAY THEY; ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CONSERVATIVES, OR > > > > TO THE LIBERALS? > > Liberals enable people not to fish. > > don't have to. > > They can freely waste the efforts and surpluses which could have gone in > > to creating new things, into experimentation, exploration of the moon > > and beyond, etc. There is another way of looking at this. Liberals love to tax those who produce, then spend the money on those who don't produce. This creates high tax societies where productive individuals just don't see the results of working harder, so they don't work harder; and many just give up. Conservatives feel that you should not tax that much, so that the average person has a better chance of having enough to do things, and the wealthy will see the benefit of doing more. And then will buy more with what they make, employing more people. Liberals want to be seen as giving services to people. Conservatives don't want the liberals to raid their pockets for the money to give to others! Liberals believe the government should take the foremost role in doing things. Conservatives believe that individuals should take the foremost role in doing things; and only those things people can't do by themselves or in small groups, should be done by the government. After all, we the people own this nation. We the people should be free to do what we want, within limits set to keep us from harming others. > > WAS JOHN KENNEDY CONSIDERED TO BE A LIBERAL, A CONSERVATIVE, OR > > SEEN TO BE FROM BOTH SIDES; LIBERALISM AND CONSERVATIVISM? > > He had more liberal aspects than conservative aspects; but the > thing he did, was take charge of things. He was willing to push the > limits; as he did in the Cuban Missle Crisis, and a lot of other things. In that Kennedy didn't want to tax the little man, he was seen as somewhat conservative. Johnson, with his Great Society deal, was seen as a tax-and-spend liberal. > Your health and your attitudes are what make you suffer. Your > health, by dragging you down and preventing in-del;th thought, as well in-depth > as preventing you from gaining the kinds of positive experiences which > show wone life is good and that wone can prevail. > > Your attitude is as a direct result of your health and lack of > experiences. > > The adrenal jags you experience basically deraila lot of baground > thoughts which organize most of our lives. Consciousness is maybe only 10% of what is going on in your brain. The rest works on things slowly, only raising things to consciousness when needed. Your conscious sets the theme, sets up the problems, and the rest of your mind works on them till something clicks. I do this a lot by gathering information without judgement in the morning, taking a nap at lunch time; and in the afternoon, investigating and trying the things I dreamed up during my snooze. Not everything my brain comes up with is reasonable; but the really big things tend to come to me during my nap, and then I just have to make them practical, as they are rarely nice set pieces -- lots of stuff has to be worked on and resolve; but the main idea, or something close to the eventual main idea, is there in some form or another. > > IT WOULD SEEM TOO, THAT THEY ARE ALSO MAKING US ALL SUFFER, EQUALLY. > > They don't. That's why I say that your attitude is the real > problem. But your attitude is driven by your health. > > got to go, the mover jjust came. ... and left after looking things over. I may move today... or tomorrow. When this trailer moves, it may be a day or two before I have service at the new location. I'll probably be cut off in a few hours. When he's ready, I have to put all the books on the floor, cut electrical cables, plumbing, disconnect the antenna, etc. The move is only about three or four miles; but lots has to be done, as this trailer is going to tilt and shake on some very, very rough roads. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 13:13:40 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 13:13:45 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928051639.96622.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050928201340.37544.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > IN ORDER FOR DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL TO TAKE PLACE, > IN THE MORON-ALITY CRISIS; ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND > MORALITY HAVE TO HAVE A MERGER WITH ONE ANOTHER. I don't see the connection. I THINK THAT NIKOLA TESLA SAW THAT THE FUTURE WOULD BECOME HIGHLY IMMORAL, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD MAKE IT EITHER BETTER, OR WORSE; AND THAT WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE CHOICE; (THE FREEWILL), TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, OR WORSE, USING TECHNOLOGIES. AS THINGS ARE NOW; IMMORALITY IS SO HIGH; SPONSORED BY THE MEDIA, AND BEHIND THE SCENES; SPONSORED BY THE POLITICIANS, AND SPONSORED BY THE OTHER POWERS THAT BE, INCLUDING SPONSORSHIP BY THE POWER KONTROLLERS THAT BE. When one is short of energy, one is less likely to explore, to experiment, etc. I AGREE; LESS ENERGY, MAKES MOTIVATION TO BE ULTIMATELY CREATIVE, LESS LIKELY TO HAPPEN. SEPERATE: I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO GET THE AUDIO BOOK (NARRATION) OF DALE CARNEGIE'S: HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/609ac115/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Sep 28 14:42:49 2005 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Wed Sep 28 14:43:05 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Message-ID: <1a0.3d2d5e44.306c6859@aol.com> In a message dated 9/28/2005 1:36:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: In contrast, our resettlement camps for the Japanese Americans did not create harsh conditions where deaths were expected. Here you sit, on the land your great-great-great grandfather calved out of the wilderness. Generations of father to son land, worked 18 hours a day for future generations. Your home is your pride, you and ancestors have bust their ass to educate their children and be of benefit to AMERICA You have educated your own children and expect your grandchildren to some day take over the land and continue the traditions. You have a home filled with pass-downs that bring beauty and pride to the family. America has been good to you and you pray every night for the country. A war begins against America, your sons enlist to fight these people from thousands of miles away in a place your blood has not seen in 150 years. You awake one day to find police outside the door. As they lead you and your ageing wife to a truck, in chains, you see your neighbors looting your home, your savings account has been attached, the account to educate your grandchildren has been taken. You and sick wife are placed behind barbed wire in a place that has no privacy, few doctors, no heat and the food is slim and not suited for your wife's illness. Men with guns guard you and dictate your every second of the day. You are questioned for hours by goons asking questions that make no sense to you. Your wife is deprived of needed medical care, because she refuses to admit the family was in with the Japanese spies. One month later your wife dies, somehow you survive until the end of the war. Your sons have died defending America while you are living in hell. 50 years later your grandchildren who somehow managed to get an education, are given by America an apology and for the loss of their family, money, land, inheritence, not to mention family culture, the grand sum of $20,000 to make up for the loss of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Jacilk, have you no shame? Vesta No man survives when freedom fails, The best men rot in filthy jails, And those who cry 'appease, appease' Are hanged by those they tried to please." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/99e64658/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 28 16:10:29 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 28 16:10:33 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928201340.37544.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 28, 2005 01:13:40 PM Message-ID: <20050928231029.79909.qmail@mall-net.com> > javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > IN ORDER FOR DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL TO TAKE PLACE, > > IN THE MORON-ALITY CRISIS; ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND > > MORALITY HAVE TO HAVE A MERGER WITH ONE ANOTHER. > > I don't see the connection. > > > > I THINK THAT NIKOLA TESLA SAW THAT THE FUTURE WOULD > BECOME HIGHLY IMMORAL, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD Do you have a citation? Where did he write that? > > THAT BE, INCLUDING SPONSORSHIP BY THE POWER > KONTROLLERS THAT BE. You are only controlled if you want to be. > > I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO GET THE AUDIO BOOK (NARRATION) OF DALE > CARNEGIE'S: HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. Listen and think about it. Then try practicing it. IN the beginning it will not go well. In the long run this is the way to get things done. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 17:27:44 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 17:27:49 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR In-Reply-To: <1a0.3d2d5e44.306c6859@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050929002745.2135.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: In contrast, our resettlement camps for the Japanese Americans did not create harsh conditions where deaths were expected. VESTA, I KNOW YOUR RESPONSE WAS AIMED AT JOHN; BUT I'M ADDING IN SOME TOPICS THAT APPLY TO ME, IN HERE TOO. Your home is your pride, HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND MY HEART IS BROKEN, BECAUSE MY HOME IS BROKEN. MY PRIDE IS LOST, WITHOUT MY OWN HOME. MY HOME; AT LEAST PART ONE OF IT, DIED, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 1995. I AM HOMELESS, BUT NOT HOUSELESS, AND AM SUFFERING TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE OF IT; HOMELESS, BUT NOT HOUSELESS, AND AM, AND HAVE BEEN, CONTINUALLY FIGHTING HEARTLESSNESS, WITH TREMENDOUS STRESS AND GRIEF IN ME HEART. MY FATHER AND MOTHER ARE BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME FOR IT. AND I HAVE A FUTURE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL SHATTER AT TIMES. America has been good to you and you pray every night for the country. AMERICA HAS BEEN BOTH GOOD, AND BAD TO ME; WHILE I DON'T PRAY AS MUCH AS I PROBABLY SHOULD; I DO PRAY FOR THE GOODNESS OF THINGS ON A LARGE SCALE, FOR PEACE FOR ALL; FOR GOODNESS AND FOR PEACE IN AMERICA, AND FOR THE GOODNESS AND PEACE OF THE FUTURE OF PLANET EARTH. A war begins against America, You awake one day to find police outside the door. As they lead you to a truck, in chains, you see your neighbors looting your home, your savings account has been attacked, the account has been taken. I SEE A FUTURE SCENARIO THAT IS AS DREARY AS THIS, IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CANNOT TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK, FROM THE NAZI NEOCON'S AND FROM THE COMMIE NEOLIB'S. UNLESS THERE IS STILL HOPE, OTHERWISE. BITS AND PIECES ARRANGED TO FIT MY REPLY: You are placed behind barbed wire in a place that has no privacy, few doctors, no heat and the food is slim and not suited for your illness. Men with guns guard you and dictate your every second of the day. You are questioned for hours by goons asking questions that make no sense to you. You are deprived of needed medical care, somehow you survive the war. defending America while you are living in hell. I AM IN HELL RIGHT NOW; NOT ENTIRELY; BUT I AM IN HELL, WITH HEALTH THAT HAS GONE TO HELL; IN A TOTALITARIAN BANKING, FINANCIAL, AND MEDIA INDUSTRIAL KOMPLEX, THAT IS WORKING WITH THE POLITICAL POWER INTRAFUCKTURE, KONTROLLING THE FUCKED UP FUTURE DESTINY, OF WHAT WE WOULD ALL NOW KALL AS: AMERIKA. Vesta CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/6bae0d43/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 17:52:06 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 17:52:10 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AFTER LISTENING TO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINSTREAM In-Reply-To: <20050928231029.79909.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20050929005206.49493.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > IN ORDER FOR DRASTIC MORAL REVIVAL TO TAKE PLACE, > > IN THE MORON-ALITY CRISIS; ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND > > MORALITY HAVE TO HAVE A MERGER WITH ONE ANOTHER. > > I don't see the connection. > > > > I THINK THAT NIKOLA TESLA SAW THAT THE FUTURE WOULD > BECOME HIGHLY IMMORAL, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD Do you have a citation? Where did he write that? YES: IT IS AN ARTICLE THAT WAS WRITTEN 'BY TESLA', TITLED: A MACHINE TO END WAR. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK IT UP ONLINE, AND FIND IT ONLINE. I'LL LOOK FOR IT ONLINE AFTER THIS REPLY. > THAT BE, INCLUDING SPONSORSHIP BY THE POWER > KONTROLLERS THAT BE. You are only controlled if you want to be. I AM CONTROLLED, BUT IT IS NOT MY WILL. HOW IS A LITTLE MAN LIKE ME SUPPOSED TO OWN AND OPERATE A SUCCESSFUL REDUNDANT MICROBROADCAST STATION, AND A SUCCESSFUL REDUNDANT MICRO TURBINE POWER PLANT, AND PERHAPS, EVEN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY AT IT? AND TO ALSO DRIVE AUTOMOTIVE TRAVEL, IN EXTREME ENERGY EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION, THAT IS AS ABSOLUTELY MINIMALLY NONPOLLUTIVE AS POSSIBLE, THAT CAN BE DRIVEN FAR FAR DISTANCES, WITH AS MINIMAL ENERGY USE AS POSSIBLE, AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT HAS A FAR FAR BETTER SERVICE LIFE, THAN THE SHIT AUTOMOTIVE TRAVEL OF THE PAST, AND OF THE PRESENT, THAT HAVE MADE MANY PEOPLE SUFFER, AND THAT CONTINUE TO MAKE SO MANY PEOPLE SUFFER TODAY? THE CARDS ARE STACKED AGAINST US ALL, IN THAT RESPECT. ELEKTRICAL POWER GENERATION, AND ITS KONTROL AND DISTRIBUTION ARE CENTRALIZED - COMMUNIZED; AND WHEN I SAY: COMMUNIZED; I MEAN IT! A CENTRALIZED POWER MACHINE, AND THE POWER ENGINEERS WHO OPERATE IT DO NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD; THEY CAN BE ATHEIST COMMUNIST PERVERTS, WHO HAVE POWER OVER ALL OF US, AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO PERPETUATE THAT POWER, AND POWER KONTROL OVER US; THEY CAN IN FACT BE LIKE GODS THEMSELVES, WITH THEIR ELEKTRICAL POWER KONTROL OVER ALL OF SOCIETY, AND KONTROL US IN WAYS AND MEANS THAT ARE 'SOMEWHAT' INVISIBLE TO US ALL. THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC STATUS GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE HEALTH BEYOND THEIR WILDEST DREAMS, WHILE US, THE PAUPERS OF SOCIETY HAVE TO SUFFER FROM THE SHIT ESTABLISHMENT SO-CALLED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, (THE HEALTH SCARE SYSTEM) THAT IS BOTH CORRUPT AND BROKEN. THE EDUKATIONAL SYSTEM DOES NOT TEACH US HOW TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. THE EDUKATIONAL SYSTEM DOES NOT TEACH US HOW TO THINK INDEPNDENTLY, FOR OURSELVES. THE EDUKATIONAL SYSTEM DOES NOT TEACH US HOW TO BE FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT; ETC. ETC. ETC. > I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO GET THE AUDIO BOOK (NARRATION) OF DALE > CARNEGIE'S: HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. Listen and think about it. Then try practicing it. IN the beginning it will not go well. In the long run this is the way to get things done. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LISTEN TO THREE OF THE C.D.'S SO FAR, AND IT IS VERY GOOD STUFF! I'D ALSO LIKE TO GET MORE AUDIO LITERATURE IN THE FUTURE, IF I CAN AFFORD TO BUY IT FOR MY OWN, OR PERHAPS JUST TO CHECK IT OUT AT THE LIBRARY. NON FICTION AUDIO LITERATURE IS VERY COOL STUFF! VERY VERY COOL STUFF! LATER, CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/5a47546f/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 18:12:20 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 18:12:37 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TESLA'S PAPER: A MACHINE TO END WAR; (WEBLINK). Message-ID: <20050929011220.40353.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> PERFECT! I FOUND IT AT TWENTY FIRST CENTURY BOOKS ONLINE. I QUICKLY SCANNED OVER THE ARTICLE, AND SAW THAT IT HAS AT LEAST ONE GRAMMATICAL - SPELLING ERROR, BUT THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED IN A WRITING THAT DOESN'T HAVE STRICT PROOF READING, BEFORE IT IS POSTED. I HAVE A COPY OF THIS PAPER, BY NIKOLA TESLA, IN MY RESEARCH PAPER COLLECTION, AND MY COPY HAS GRAMMATICAL - SPELLING ERRORS IN IT. IF I HAD THE TIME; I'D RE-TYPE THE ARTICLE, AND CORRECT EVERY GRAMMATICAL - SPELLING ERROR THAT IT HAS IN IT. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S IN A BOX THAT I CAN'T GET TO, RIGHT NOW, AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO BOTHER WITH IT. A MACHINE TO END WAR; BY: NIKOLA TESLA: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/machine.htm LATER, CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/fe744e10/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Sep 28 20:53:09 2005 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Wed Sep 28 20:53:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] More un the UN Message-ID: <000701c5c4a9$4ef03790$d0c5bc41@mikey> U.S. tells nations hands off Internet By John Zarocostas SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published September 27, 2005 GENEVA -- The United States said at the outset of global talks on information technology yesterday that it will fight attempts to put the United Nations or any international group in charge of the Internet. "We want to make sure the private sector leads and the Internet continues to be a reservoir of great innovation, and that governments continue to focus on enabling the growth of the Internet, and not of controlling its use," Ambassador David A. Gross told The Washington Times in an interview. Major developing nations spearheaded by China, Brazil, South Africa, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and a number of industrialized countries including Norway, Switzerland and Russia would like to see the United States relinquish its historic control of the Internet. http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20050926-094916-3102r.htm From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Sep 28 21:35:25 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Sep 28 21:35:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] NORTH AMERICAN CONSUMERS AGAINST HEALTH FRAUD: In-Reply-To: <20050928143412.90577.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050929043526.23388.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> NORTH AMERICAN CONSUMERS AGAINST HEALTH FRAUD: http://www.northamericanconsumersagainsthealthfraud.org/cgi-bin/mojo.cgi?f=s&1=one Mad-Scientists mailing list: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050928/eba7059f/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Sep 28 22:10:44 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Sep 28 22:10:55 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] NORTH AMERICAN CONSUMERS AGAINST HEALTH FRAUD: In-Reply-To: <20050929043526.23388.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 28, 2005 09:35:25 PM Message-ID: <20050929051044.84354.qmail@mall-net.com> > NORTH AMERICAN CONSUMERS AGAINST HEALTH FRAUD: > > http://www.northamericanconsumersagainsthealthfraud.org/cgi-bin/mojo.cgi?f=s&1=one New site for The Bolen Report http://BolenReport.com/ I occasionally have some disputes with what they say, but by and large a very, very good site. As to the number one killer, well... Do more of us die of sudden things, such as colds or fatal accidents; or do more of us live long enough to see a doctor? But yes, medical mistakes do kill a LOT of people! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 29 08:00:22 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 29 08:00:32 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY. Message-ID: <20050929150022.92452.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY: 1. http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm 2. https://secure.outflow.net/cchr/pub.htm 3. http://www.cchr.org/educate/book.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050929/739d6480/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Sep 29 10:21:12 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Sep 29 10:21:17 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20050929150022.92452.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 29, 2005 08:00:22 AM Message-ID: <20050929172112.77521.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY: > > 1. http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm Some of the fruitcakes I went to school with could have used this. Depressive, scardy cats, habitual liars, pyromaniacs, one kid who murdered a girl before he graduated from high school, and other deviants. And I thought I had trouble with just the school bully trying to beat me up simply because I was a soft target. Then there were the police chief's nephews who wanted to blow up our home, etc. Not to mention the rocket gangs, missile espionage, etc. (Wait a minute, I was the ringleader of the rocket gangs! That's where a lot of us learned how to run good solid business meetings.) Mind you, this was in a small suburban town far away from any military establishments! What I heard from my other larger-city friends included gang rape, daily extortion, etc. One gal I dated out of college said she studied to be a school teacher; but after her first year trying to impart information into a mass of juvenile delinquents passing as normal city kids, she quit! "Wild Animals!" She called them. As one science fiction magazine put it, today, kids don't have enough opportunities to get hurt. It is pain, unintentionally self inflicted, that taught us to be mindful, careful, and determined. We learned with cap guns, squirt guns, graduating to BB guns, soldering irons, etc. We burned ourselves on hot food we prepared, on our soldering irons, camp fires, chemistry sets, etc. We learned early on that we could hurt ourselves if we were not careful. We also learned to think ahead, to see things in our mind before we did them. By the time we reached our teens, we knew to take care. Some of us were dare devils; but we'd been hurt enough times that we ran things through in our minds, took safety precautions, etc. to make sure the dare we accepted wouldn't be our last. I remember soldering, having to hold hot components together, cooling some with spit on the finger, as Dad sometimes did, etc. Pain! But if you wanted to avoid cold solder joints in point-to-point construction, that's what you did. Same for some of the glass blowing I did in college. A very calculated bit of pain endurance to get something I done right, done right. Having blown things up, launched rockets, burned myself lots of times soldering, etc. I was a very cautious driver, not very rebellious, either. I knew the rules were there to increase safety, knew when they could be bent or broken; and didn't do things that would hurt others. Today's kids don't hurt themselves enough in small ways to learn those lessons. They grow up too safe! So when they reach the stage of being trusted with cars, corporations, or other dangerous things, many really screw up and lose an arm, leg, or life. Or rip other people off in scams. > 2. https://secure.outflow.net/cchr/pub.htm Book ad, does not say much. > 3. http://www.cchr.org/educate/book.htm Another book ad, does not say why, how, etc. I'd say unsubstantiated charges. Substantiate them, and we'll think about it. I mean, we're supposed to be Mad Scientists. Both mad people and scientists tend to be suspicious of claims like these. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2005, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Sep 29 11:47:21 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Sep 29 11:47:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE. Message-ID: <20050929184722.47300.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> TULSA TIME IS DRIVING ME INSANE, AS IT HAS FOR A LONG TIME NOW. I NEED A PEACEFUL - PERMANENT VACATION. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050929/7dafb946/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Sep 30 19:39:10 2005 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Sep 30 19:39:14 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GENERAL MARKET STUDY FOR A PROFESSIONAL G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK. Message-ID: <20051001023910.75691.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> TO THOSE OF INTEREST, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REVISION AT THIS TIME, OF MY PROPOSED MARKET STUDY, I AM SENDING THIS OUT, AS IT IS, IN ITS PRESENT FORMAT. IF IT NEEDS FURTHER REVISION; PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANKS SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GENERAL MARKET STUDY FOR A PROFESSIONAL G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK: Hello; I'm Clyde Lofton. This work is toward the creation of a minimalistic designed, American made, American quality, Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock, which will be synchronizable to the Global Positioning System upon its completion, for combined useage with a Global Positioning System receiver, to keep perfect time accuracy, using voice announcements of the correct time of night and day, when set correctly. The talking clock should be designed with as few features as possible, for both simplicity in its useage, and to keep the manufacturing and sales expenses and costs to a minimum. The talking clock should have its own internal quartz crystal oscillator, to give it the ability for use as a stand alone clock by itself, or use as a voltage controlled clock, in synchronocity to the Global Positioning System, so that the clock should have the ability to be continually updated to the Universal Coordinated Time / Universal Time Coordination (U.T.C.), clock time code standard, originating at the National Institute of Standards And Technology, to keep the talking clock set to its correct time, at all times. The Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock should be designed to have voltage control triggering of the correct current hour, minute, and minutes, once every minute, at the bottom of every minute, and every hour, at the top of every hour, with a minimum of two audio output's; One audio output for constant voice time output; The other audio output for time when needed, at the press of a button. To insure that the Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock can be a success; I am doing this general market study, to receive all feedback response, to the following questions: 1. Would all potential markets be interested in a talking clock unit, that is manufactured in the United States, using only the highest of quality parts, components, and materials? A talking clock unit that is built with the highest of integrity in its workmanship, and one that is always reliable, and on perfect time, when connected as part of the Global Positioning System? Circle: YES or NO 2. What would all potential markets be willing to pay, for an American integrity quality, professional, user friendly, talking clock unit? Here is an example: The Omnicron Electronics model TCC-14, talking clock/calendar unit, sells for $445.00, when purchased brand new. The Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock should either be comparable in cost to the Omnicron Electronics talking clock/calendar unit, or should be lower in cost to the Omnicron Electronics talking clock/calendar unit, in order to be afforded by those who have budgets which are very small. What price range would all potential markets be willing to pay, for an American integrity quality, user friendly, professional, rackmountable cased, talking clock unit? The potential price should be in the range of: $200.00 to $400.00; Not including the expense for a seperate, more or less expensive, Global Positioning System receiver controller, for the needed voltage control, to keep the time of the talking clock always set correctly, to the Universal Coordinated Time code standard. Please put the amount below, giving your thought, on what an acceptable price might be, for a quality, yet not overly complex, and not overly expensive, professional talking clock: $ . Thank you very much for all of your cooperation in this survey. Sincerely, Clyde Lofton Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20050930/a09daefa/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Sep 30 22:05:20 2005 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Sep 30 22:05:30 2005 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GENERAL MARKET STUDY FOR A PROFESSIONAL G.P.S. In-Reply-To: <20051001023910.75691.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Sep 30, 2005 07:39:10 PM Message-ID: <20051001050520.38820.qmail@mall-net.com> > The talking clock should be designed with as > few features as possible, for both simplicity in > its useage, and to keep the manufacturing and > sales expenses and costs to a minimum. Point: Once you have a microprocessor chip in it, you can add as many features as you can afford buttons, then mode it for even more. Features are CHEAP! Buttons are more expensive. Modality is what confuses some people, but if done well (as by me) then modality can be ok. Sync via: * AC power lines * GPS * UTC NIST Broadcasts Two relay driven outputs, programmable for alarm or timed repetition. What features are important to you? 12/24 hr display LCD or LED display? Colors? Countdown timer? Auto-repeating countdown timer? Countup timer? audio alarm? how many audio levels for the speech synth? male spetch? female speech? robotic speech? etc. What I need, is countdown with auto-restart with some kind of limited nag feature. (e.g. repeat alarms every 2-3 minutes for the next 1/3 cycle in case I miss it.) > To insure that the Professional G.P.S. Synchronous > Talking Clock can be a success; I am doing this > general market study, to receive all feedback response, > to the following questions: > > 1. Would all potential markets be interested in a > talking clock unit, that is manufactured in the > United States, using only the highest of quality > parts, components, and materials? > A talking clock unit that is built with the highest > of integrity in its workmanship, and one that is Everything is automated anyway! Workmen cause more mis-assembly rejects than machines! > 2. What would all potential markets be willing to > pay, for an American integrity quality, professional, > user friendly, talking clock unit? Your recipient is ONE market. Don't ask him to dream up markets that don't exist. > > The Omnicron Electronics model TCC-14, talking > clock/calendar unit, sells for $445.00, when > purchased brand new. (Is it Chinese made?) > The Professional G.P.S. Synchronous Talking Clock > should either be comparable in cost to the Omnicron > Electronics talking clock/calendar unit, or should be > lower in cost to the Omnicron Electronics talking > clock/calendar unit, in order to be afforded by those > who have budgets which are very small. > > What price range would all potential markets be What is the highest price would YOU be willing to pay for a quality American made product. What is the highest price you would be willing to pay for a Chinese product? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. 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