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HE WHO WOULD GIVE UP LIBERTY, IN EXCHANGE
FOR TEMPORARY SECURITY, DESERVES NEITHER
LIBERTY NOR SECURITY.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 2 07:53:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WOULD A RETURN TO ISOLATIONISM WORK? / PRESIDENT
GEORGE WASHINGTON WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20060202145249.17339.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINTON:
THE GREAT RULE OF CONDUCT FOR US, IN REGARD TO FOREIGN
NATIONS, IS IN EXTENDING OUR COMMERCIAL RELATIONS, TO
HAVE WITH THEM AS LITTLE POLITICAL CONNECTION AS IS POSSIBLE.
EUROPE HAS A SET OF PRIMARY INTERESTS, WHICH TO US HAVE
NONE, OR WHICH HAVE A VERY REMOTE RELATION.
HENCE, SHE MUST BE ENGAGED IN FREQUENT CONTROVERSIES,
THE CAUSES OF WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY FOREIGN TO OUR
CONCERNS.
HENCE, ORDINARY COMBINATIONS AND COLLISIONS OF HER
FRIENDSHIPS OR ENMITIES.
PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON:
...PEACE, COMMERCE, AND HONEST FRIENDSHIP WITH ALL NATIONS,
ENTANGLING ALLIANCES WITH NONE.
DR. STRANGELOVE:
IT SEEMS THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FAVORED ISOLATIONISM:
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/lofiversion/index.php/t38006.html
PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON WEBLINKS:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Washington
http://www.fightthebias.com/people/George_Washington/George_Washington.htm
http://www.usa-patriotism.com/tribute/quotes/washington.htm
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 08:17:10 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 2 08:17:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA..!
Message-ID: <20060202151710.80844.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA..!
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT ME THE PEOPLE..!
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS WE THE PEOPLE..!
WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER HERE IN AMERICA..!
UNITED..!
ONE NATION UNDER GOD..!
UNDIVIDABLE..!
WE STAND TOGETHER AS ONE..!
WITH LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE: EQUAL FOR ALL..!
AMEN..!
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TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 2 17:42:22 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 2 17:42:42 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WOULD A RETURN TO ISOLATIONISM WORK? / PRESIDENT
In-Reply-To: <20060202145249.17339.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 02, 2006 06:52:48 AM
Message-ID: <20060203004222.72368.qmail@mall-net.com>
> PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINTON:
>
> THE GREAT RULE OF CONDUCT FOR US, IN REGARD TO FOREIGN
> NATIONS, IS IN EXTENDING OUR COMMERCIAL RELATIONS, TO
> HAVE WITH THEM AS LITTLE POLITICAL CONNECTION AS IS POSSIBLE.
> EUROPE HAS A SET OF PRIMARY INTERESTS, WHICH TO US HAVE
> NONE, OR WHICH HAVE A VERY REMOTE RELATION.
> HENCE, SHE MUST BE ENGAGED IN FREQUENT CONTROVERSIES,
> THE CAUSES OF WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY FOREIGN TO OUR
> CONCERNS.
> HENCE, ORDINARY COMBINATIONS AND COLLISIONS OF HER
> FRIENDSHIPS OR ENMITIES.
You may note that some time has passed since George was President.
Since then, the vast majority of monarchies in Europe have become
democracies. Their views have changed to be more like outs.
Technology has changed the weeks it took a clipper ship to deliver a
contingent of musketeers who must feed themselves, to 15 minutes to
deliver a thermonuclear bomb which eats soil, buildings, and flesh.
So that remote relationship has become a little closer.
> PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON:
>
> ...PEACE, COMMERCE, AND HONEST FRIENDSHIP WITH ALL NATIONS,
> ENTANGLING ALLIANCES WITH NONE.
This is closer; but when opponents threaten not just us but the
world, alliances can be useful.
> DR. STRANGELOVE:
>
> IT SEEMS THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FAVORED ISOLATIONISM:
A fictional non-entity speaking to continue the thrust of a novel
and movie, rather than his own (nonexistent) mind.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 19:32:50 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 2 19:33:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WOULD A RETURN TO ISOLATIONISM WORK? / PRESIDENT
In-Reply-To: <20060203004222.72368.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060203023251.51589.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON:
>
> THE GREAT RULE OF CONDUCT FOR US, IN REGARD TO FOREIGN
> NATIONS, IS IN EXTENDING OUR COMMERCIAL RELATIONS, TO
> HAVE WITH THEM AS LITTLE POLITICAL CONNECTION AS IS POSSIBLE.
> EUROPE HAS A SET OF PRIMARY INTERESTS, WHICH TO US HAVE
> NONE, OR WHICH HAVE A VERY REMOTE RELATION.
> HENCE, SHE MUST BE ENGAGED IN FREQUENT CONTROVERSIES,
> THE CAUSES OF WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY FOREIGN TO OUR
> CONCERNS.
> HENCE, ORDINARY COMBINATIONS AND COLLISIONS OF HER
> FRIENDSHIPS OR ENMITIES.
You may note that some time has passed since George was President.
Since then, the vast majority of monarchies in Europe have become
democracies. Their views have changed to be more like ours.
YES; THOUGH THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS OF THE EXISTANCES
OF POVERTY, CRIME, AND INJUSTICE: (INJUSTICE OF WHICH SHOULD ACTUALLY BE LINGUISTICALLY SPELLED: UNJUSTICE).
Technology has changed the weeks it took a clipper ship to deliver a
contingent of musketeers who must feed themselves, to 15 minutes to
deliver a thermonuclear bomb which eats soil, buildings, and flesh.
YEAH SHIPS ARE CERTAINLY 100% BETTER NOW;
BUT FUCK THERMONUCLEAR ENERGY..!
I REPEAT: FUCK NUCLEAR ENERGY: PERIOD; DOT; EXCLAMATION POINT..!
ANTI NUCLEAR (ANTI-NUE-CLEEE-ERRR) ENERGY IS AN ABSOLUTE
MUST, FOR THE FUTURE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA, AND FOR THE
FUTURE SURVIVAL OF THE ENTIRE PLANET..!
WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEED
ANTI-NUCLEAR RADIO-ENERGIE, FOR SUSTAINABLE LIFE;
SUSTAINABLE LIFE THAT IS EQUAL FOR EVERYONE..!
IT IS FOUND IN THE GRAVITY OF LOVE..!
AND LOVE IS STRONGER THAN HATE, FOR THE FACT THAT
THE FOUNDING FATHERS CREATED THE CONSTITUTION AND
BILL OF RIGHTS MASTERPIECES FOR THE PERFECT GOVERNING
OF A FREE SOCIETY.
I AM AT BORDERLINE EDGE OF TOTAL HATRED FOR ALL OF SOCIETY,
FOR THE DIRTY IMMORAL - TECHNICAL HELLS THAT BOTH TULSA
OKLAHOMA AND THE REST OF AMERICA HAVE BECOME..!
So that remote relationship has become a little closer.
> PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON:
>
> ...PEACE, COMMERCE, AND HONEST FRIENDSHIP WITH ALL NATIONS,
> ENTANGLING ALLIANCES WITH NONE.
This is closer; but when opponents threaten not just us but the
world, alliances can be useful.
WE: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NEED TO WALK FROM
THE MIDDLE BEAST, WALK FROM TAIWAN, AND WALK FROM
GARBAGE CHINA, AND REBUILD THIS COUNTRY FOR AN EQUAL
ABSOLUTE GOOD FUTURE THAT IS EQUAL FOR EVERYONE, WITH
ZERO EXCEPTION..!
> DR. STRANGELOVE:
>
> IT SEEMS THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FAVORED ISOLATIONISM:
A fictional non-entity speaking to continue the thrust of a novel,
and movie, rather than his own (nonexistent) mind.
IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT DR. STRANGELOVE IS A FICTIONAL
NON-ENTITY: THE CHARACTER MAKES A 100% ACURATE
PERFECT POINT.
BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS GOING NOWHERE
IN SO MANY FIELDS OF SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL ADVANCEMENT..!
THIS COUNTRY NEEDS A GRASSROOTS STARTOVER I GUESS; WITH
A MASS SCALE UNITY OF WE THE PEOPLE..!
POLITICIANS AND THEIR POLITICS HAVE SCREWED THINGS UP SO
MUCH, FOR EVERYONE; INCLUDING FOR MAD SCIENTISTS.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 2 19:54:18 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 2 19:54:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WOULD A RETURN TO ISOLATIONISM WORK? / PRESIDENT
In-Reply-To: <20060203023251.51589.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 02, 2006 06:32:50 PM
Message-ID: <20060203025418.68826.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > NATIONS, IS IN EXTENDING OUR COMMERCIAL RELATIONS, TO
> > HAVE WITH THEM AS LITTLE POLITICAL CONNECTION AS IS POSSIBLE.
> > EUROPE HAS A SET OF PRIMARY INTERESTS, WHICH TO US HAVE
> > NONE, OR WHICH HAVE A VERY REMOTE RELATION.
> You may note that some time has passed since George was President.
> Since then, the vast majority of monarchies in Europe have become
> democracies. Their views have changed to be more like ours.
>
> YES; THOUGH THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS OF THE EXISTANCES
> OF POVERTY, CRIME, AND INJUSTICE: (INJUSTICE OF WHICH SHOULD ACTUALLY BE
> LINGUISTICALLY SPELLED: UNJUSTICE).
Nor does it have any relationship with those. Mankind is
imperfect. Make the most of it. Be the example of what you wish to see
in society.
> Technology has changed the weeks it took a clipper ship to deliver a
> contingent of musketeers who must feed themselves, to 15 minutes to
> deliver a thermonuclear bomb which eats soil, buildings, and flesh.
>
> YEAH SHIPS ARE CERTAINLY 100% BETTER NOW;
> BUT FUCK THERMONUCLEAR ENERGY..!
> I REPEAT: FUCK NUCLEAR ENERGY: PERIOD; DOT; EXCLAMATION POINT..!
Doing that can cause genetic damage.
Ignoring it can cause economic damage. ignoring it is already
costing the USA immense quantities of problems, financial, political,
and populational.
> ANTI NUCLEAR (ANTI-NUE-CLEEE-ERRR) ENERGY IS AN ABSOLUTE
> MUST, FOR THE FUTURE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA, AND FOR THE
> FUTURE SURVIVAL OF THE ENTIRE PLANET..!
The earth runs on nuclear power. Its radioactive decay that keeps
the earth warm deep down inside.
Nuclear power kills far fewer people than mining coal. Think about
that. And burning coal releases more nuclear debris, like thorium,
uranium, etc.; than using nuclear fuel.
> AND LOVE IS STRONGER THAN HATE, FOR THE FACT THAT
> THE FOUNDING FATHERS CREATED THE CONSTITUTION AND
> BILL OF RIGHTS MASTERPIECES FOR THE PERFECT GOVERNING
> OF A FREE SOCIETY.
I think it more likely they simply wanted to keep their money,
rather than pay the excessive taxes King George of England decreed.
> I AM AT BORDERLINE EDGE OF TOTAL HATRED FOR ALL OF SOCIETY,
> FOR THE DIRTY IMMORAL - TECHNICAL HELLS THAT BOTH TULSA
> OKLAHOMA AND THE REST OF AMERICA HAVE BECOME..!
Get the camera, Clyde. get the Camera.
> So that remote relationship has become a little closer.
> WE: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NEED TO WALK FROM
> THE MIDDLE BEAST, WALK FROM TAIWAN, AND WALK FROM
> GARBAGE CHINA, AND REBUILD THIS COUNTRY FOR AN EQUAL
> ABSOLUTE GOOD FUTURE THAT IS EQUAL FOR EVERYONE, WITH
> ZERO EXCEPTION..!
And in another twenty or thirty years, would thus be destroyed by
the Chinese Tiger.
We do not have the luxury of being geographically isolated anymore.
We must partake of this world; we must seek to be able to guide and
change the world to a larger extent than those who oppose democracy.
> BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS GOING NOWHERE
> IN SO MANY FIELDS OF SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL ADVANCEMENT..!
> THIS COUNTRY NEEDS A GRASSROOTS STARTOVER I GUESS; WITH
> A MASS SCALE UNITY OF WE THE PEOPLE..!
Last guy to preach those things... had a funny mustache. His symbol
was a funny black spider on a white circle on a red background.
Deutchland Uber Alles was his slogan, Germany Over All. In the end, it
was All over Germany, and he shot himself for realizing the problems he
had caused. Those were the intents of Hitler.
I would suggest a more moderate approach. Back other democracies,
and back the forces of democracy in non-democracies.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 20:18:55 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 2 20:19:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MAGNETISM AND THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
Message-ID: <20060203031855.52710.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
MAGNETISM AND THE RAINBOW CONNECTION:
MAGNETISM IS ONE OF THE VARIABLES INVOLVED
IN THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
MAGNETRICITY IS A SECOND VARIABLE.
ACOUSTIC ENERGY IS A THIRD VARIABLE.
PEOPLE ARE CLAMMORING FOR REALITY, AS
WAS TOLD TO ME IN THE PAST.
ELECTRICITY IS TOO SMALL.
ACOUSTIC HAS THE WAVE FUNCTIONS DIRECT.
AND MAGNETRICITY CAN BE, BUT IS NOT
NECCESARILY EQUAL TO RADIO SCIENCE.
CLYDE
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 15:05:08 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Fri Feb 3 15:05:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Odic force
In-Reply-To: <20060120190001.B23A939867@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060203220508.59523.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Re; Prana, Kundalini, Ch'i, Odic Force and Orgone - I think they are all the same. (BTW I have experienced ch'i directly through meditation.)
"In the mid-19th century Baron Carl von Reichenbach, an accomplished chemist (known for his analysis of creosote, waxy paraffin, and phenol) gave the name Odic force (also called Od [?d] and Odyle) to a hypothetical vital energy or life force. Proponents of the concept suggest that Odic force permeates all living plants, animals, and humans. It took its place in the 19th century as one of many proto-scientific ideas leading towards a unified theory of vitalism. Von Reichenbach coined the name from that of the Norse god Odin.
Believers in Odic force state that it resembles the eastern mystical concepts ch'i and prana. However, they regard the Od, not as associated with breath (like ch'i), but mainly with claimed electromagnetic properties.
Baron von Reichenbach developed the concept of Odic force during the 1850s in his Researches on Magnetism, Electricity, Heat and Light in their relations to Vital Forces. His claims included that his Odic force had a positive and negative flux, and a light and dark side. Individuals could supposedly "emanate" it, particularly from the hands, mouth, and forehead. He believed it had other uses, and that for example crystals could store it within themselves as "crystalod". Von Reichenbach hoped to develop a scientific proof for a universal life force, but since his experiments relied on allegedly psychically sensitive and psycho-kinetically adept individuals, it never acquired currency in the general scientific community.
Current popularity of the theory within new age and paranormal circles has arisen at the same time as the success of George Lucas' fictional Force in the Star Wars series, with which the Odic Force has similarities.
Energy vampires can allegedly drain Odic Force from other people, either willingly or unwillingly.
Criticisms of this theory usually include the Placebo effect."
Any thoughts from the members?
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 3 16:41:37 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Feb 3 16:41:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Odic force
In-Reply-To: <20060203220508.59523.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 03, 2006 02:05:08 PM
Message-ID: <20060203234137.23026.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> Re; Prana, Kundalini, Ch'i, Odic Force and Orgone - I think they are all the same. (BTW I have experienced ch'i directly through meditation.)
>
> "In the mid-19th century Baron Carl von Reichenbach, an accomplished chemist (known for his analysis of creosote, waxy paraffin, and phenol) gave the name Odic force (also called Od [?d] and Odyle) to a hypothetical vital energy or life force. Proponents of the concept suggest that Odic force permeates all living plants, animals, and humans. It took its place in the 19th century as one of many proto-scientific ideas leading towards a unified theory of vitalism. Von Reichenbach coined the name from that of the Norse god Odin.
> Believers in Odic force state that it resembles the eastern mystical concepts ch'i and prana. However, they regard the Od, not as associated with breath (like ch'i), but mainly with claimed electromagnetic properties.
It has been said that all life emits laser like (synchronized, but
not directed) photos. This would be based upon the tendency of a photon
passing an over-energized atom or molecule, to promote the in-phase decay
of energy in that atom or molecule, thus releasing a harmonic photon.
The principle, explained by Einstein in some of his writings, is
the basis for technical lasers of all kinds.
Unlike the synchronized photons released by life forms, lasers trap
these synchronized photons between mirrors so that they are not only in
phase; but also in almost the same direction, which is the second
property of what we call a laser.
And by the way, intensity is not a property of biological
laser-like photons. The intensity of technical lasers is only obtained
by pouring immense quantities of energy into the lasing media.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 06:13:39 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 06:14:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Odic force.
In-Reply-To: <20060203234137.23026.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060204131339.24229.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> Re; Prana, Kundalini, Ch'i, Odic Force and Orgone - I think they are all the same. (BTW I have experienced ch'i directly through meditation.)
>
> "In the mid-19th century Baron Carl von Reichenbach, an accomplished chemist (known for his analysis of creosote, waxy paraffin, and phenol) gave the name Odic force (also called Od [?d] and Odyle) to a hypothetical vital energy or life force. Proponents of the concept suggest that Odic force permeates all living plants, animals, and humans.
STRANGE; BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
MAGNETIC CURRENT IS.
BIOMAGNETIC AND MICROELECTRIC ENERGY
PERMEATING ALL LIFE..!
LEEDSKALNIN ALSO KNEW ABOUT IT, AND
WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 07:02:16 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 07:02:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Odic force.
In-Reply-To: <20060204131339.24229.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060204140216.26336.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> Re; Prana, Kundalini, Ch'i, Odic Force and Orgone - I think they are all the same. (BTW I have experienced ch'i directly through meditation.)
>
> "In the mid-19th century Baron Carl von Reichenbach, an accomplished chemist (known for his analysis of creosote, waxy paraffin, and phenol) gave the name Odic force (also called Od [?d] and Odyle) to a hypothetical vital energy or life force. Proponents of the concept suggest that Odic force permeates all living plants, animals, and humans.
STRANGE; BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
MAGNETIC CURRENT IS.
BIOMAGNETIC AND MICROELECTRIC ENERGY
PERMEATING ALL LIFE..!
LEEDSKALNIN ALSO KNEW ABOUT IT, AND
WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
AND ALSO; AS OZZY OSBOURNE SAYS:
DON'T NEED NO ASTROLOGY; IT'S INSIDE OF
YOU AND ME.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 07:17:51 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 07:18:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [SLIGHTLY MODIFIED:] WEBLINKS FOR THE FUTURE
HEALTH AND SURVIVAL OF AMERICA;
AND FOR THE FUTURE HEALTH AND SURVIVAL OF ALL OF PLANET EARTH: EQUAL
FOR ALL..!
Message-ID: <20060204141751.59882.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
SLIGHTLY MODIFIED:
WEBLINKS FOR THE FUTURE HEALTH AND SURVIVAL OF AMERICA;
AND FOR THE FUTURE HEALTH AND SURVIVAL OF ALL OF PLANET
EARTH: EQUAL FOR ALL..!
AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM LAMINATED POSTER:
http://www.lawyersandjudges.com/productdetails.cfm?PC=932
EARTHRISE POSTER:
http://www.edugraphics.net/0-space/earthrise.htm
IT'S OUR CHOICE ECOLOGY POSTER:
http://www.edugraphics.net/0-loe1/its_our_choice_environment_poster.htm
CHIROPRACTICE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY;
AN AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY NEEDING A GRAND COOPERATIVE
MASS SCALE PRODUCTION EFFORT; HERE; IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA:
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf#search='LSI%20Quantum%20International%20%20Intersegmental%20traction%20tables
ORAGENICS; ORAL AND DENTAL HYGENICS:
http://www.oragenics.com/
ELEMENTAL DEPICTIONS OF THE NATURE OF REALITY, AND OF THE
NATURE OF LIFE:
http://teslamania.delete.org/photos/For_Sale/June04/4x6Panel/Interior1a.jpg
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/fractals/chaos/SNOWFLAK.GIF
http://dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu/~ebertd/635/Sp99/notes/Images/l-system-diag2.gif
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/fractals/chaos/DLA.GIF
LIQUID CRYSTALS; A MAJOR PART OF THE PUZZLE OF LIFE:
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/micro/gallery/dna/dna.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 07:28:29 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 07:28:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
Message-ID: <20060204142829.34245.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
CAN'T YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE SEE..?
CAN'T YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE
SEE THAT ANTI-MONEY CAUSES
ME TO DRAW UNWANTED
ATTENTION TO MYSELF?
AND CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
HOW TO MAKE MONEY..?
CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
TO LIVE FINANCIAL
UN-DEPENDENCE..?
UN-DEPENDENCE - ANTI-DEPENDENCE..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 07:32:16 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 07:32:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
Message-ID: <20060204143216.45758.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
ANTI-MONEY CAUSES ME TO
DRAW UNWANTED ATTENTION
TO MYSELF?
AND CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
HOW TO MAKE MONEY..?
CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
TO LIVE FINANCIAL
UN-DEPENDENCE..?
UN-DEPENDENCE - ANTI-DEPENDENCE..!
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 12:26:08 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 12:26:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED / THE REST OF THE STORY:]
POISONOUS-VENOMOUS VIPERS.
Message-ID: <20060204192608.83200.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED / THE REST OF THE STORY:
I'VE BEEN POISONED AGAINST OTHERS -
WITH VENOMOUS VIPERS IN MY MIND;
POISONED AGAINST BOTH YOUNG AND
OLD ALIKE; THOUGH I'VE ALWAYS HAD
ENOUGH SELF CONTROL, CONTAINED
WITHIN MY EYES / EYESIGHT, TO KEEP
THE SERPENTS AT BAY.
MY WILL IS GOOD; THOUGH MY LIFE FOR
THE MOST PART HAS BEEN TORN APART;
MY HEART IS ABSOLUTELY BROKEN.
WHAT DO I DO WITH A HUMBLE AND
BROKEN HEART;
AND WHO NEEDS A HEART WHEN A
HEART CAN BE BROKEN?
THE REST OF THE STORY GOES:
THE POISONOUS-VENOMOUS VIPERS
ARE KEPT AT BAY BY BOTH THE ANGELS
AND THE ARC-ANGELS ALIKE; (ARC
ANGEL IS THE TRUE LINGUISM BEHIND
THE WORD: ARCH ANGEL)..!
ARC ANGELS ARE ARCS OF HIGH
VOLTAGE / HIGH CURRENT ELECTRIC
PLASMA - LIGHTNING;
AND STANDARD ANGELS ARE TREES..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 13:08:06 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 13:08:11 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Tulsa Oklahoma....
Message-ID: <20060204200806.53569.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Tulsa Oklahoma must be the most absolutely
overzoned and overataxed, without
representation place, in the entire United
States Of America..!
Tulsa Oklahoma: The most overzoned and
overtaxed without representation, capital,
of The United States Of America..!
Clyde
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 4 14:03:41 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 4 14:03:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060204143216.45758.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 04, 2006 06:32:16 AM
Message-ID: <20060204210341.17808.qmail@mall-net.com>
> CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
> THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
> SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
> EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
> BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
> FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
> NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
> TO LIVE FINANCIAL
> UN-DEPENDENCE..?
> UN-DEPENDENCE - ANTI-DEPENDENCE..
Your definition of undependence is much like Thoreau and his Walden
Pond. Let me quote something...
As for Thoreau's "living deliberately" and his claim that the
so-called comforts of life are but obstacles to the elevation of
mankind; I say that while comfort and abundance can and indeed do dull
some minds, the harshness and repetitive duties of rural life rob a man
of the comfort and time needed to think and experiment. In this
civilized economy, the wealth of individuals and the society as a whole
comes not so much from brawn and repetition, now the province of
machines, as from the sharing of ideas and discoveries that they may be
set in motion. Thus Thoreau's goals of self sufficiency, minimalism,
and isolationism are a recipe for ignorance, inability, and Abject
Poverty!
While there is strong merit in NOT overwhelming oneself in wanton
consumption; as far as I am concerned, Thoreau can take his minimalism
and isolationism, and go jump in his scum covered pond!
...
I want to go into a store and buy a computer. I don't want to have
to buy sand, refine it, spend a few hundred years etching wires and
transistors on a chunk of refined sand, a few more hundred years
programming the operating system, etc.
Economic inter-dependence means that instead of a 1 megahertz 125k
word computer costing over a million dollars, and a few thousand dollars
a month for the electricity to run, I can buy a 1 gigahertz computer for
about $200. $500 dollars less than an electronic calculator in 1966. And
pay $30 per month to run it.
THAT is what you want to prevent???
My dear Thoreau, I invite you to jump into your scum covered pond.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 14:08:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 14:08:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [EDITED:] Tulsa Oklahoma....
In-Reply-To: <20060204200806.53569.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060204210844.13979.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
EDITED:
Tulsa Oklahoma must be the most absolutely
overzoned and overtaxed, without
representation place, in the entire United
States Of America..!
Tulsa Oklahoma: The most overzoned and
overtaxed without representation, capital,
of The United States Of America..!
Clyde
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 14:23:56 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Feb 4 14:24:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060204210341.17808.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060204212356.71107.qmail@web51012.mail.yahoo.com>
Javilk,
Thank you for pointing these things out to Clyde.
I was thinking of offering to leave him in central
Maine...
Bob
--- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
> > THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
> > SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
> > EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
> > BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
> > FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
> > NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
> > TO LIVE FINANCIAL
> > UN-DEPENDENCE..?
> > UN-DEPENDENCE - ANTI-DEPENDENCE..
>
> Your definition of undependence is much like
> Thoreau and his Walden
> Pond. Let me quote something...
>
> As for Thoreau's "living deliberately" and his
> claim that the
> so-called comforts of life are but obstacles to the
> elevation of
> mankind; I say that while comfort and abundance can
> and indeed do dull
> some minds, the harshness and repetitive duties of
> rural life rob a man
> of the comfort and time needed to think and
> experiment. In this
> civilized economy, the wealth of individuals and the
> society as a whole
> comes not so much from brawn and repetition, now the
> province of
> machines, as from the sharing of ideas and
> discoveries that they may be
> set in motion. Thus Thoreau's goals of self
> sufficiency, minimalism,
> and isolationism are a recipe for ignorance,
> inability, and Abject
> Poverty!
>
> While there is strong merit in NOT overwhelming
> oneself in wanton
> consumption; as far as I am concerned, Thoreau can
> take his minimalism
> and isolationism, and go jump in his scum covered
> pond!
>
> ...
> I want to go into a store and buy a computer. I
> don't want to have
> to buy sand, refine it, spend a few hundred years
> etching wires and
> transistors on a chunk of refined sand, a few more
> hundred years
> programming the operating system, etc.
>
> Economic inter-dependence means that instead of
> a 1 megahertz 125k
> word computer costing over a million dollars, and a
> few thousand dollars
> a month for the electricity to run, I can buy a 1
> gigahertz computer for
> about $200. $500 dollars less than an electronic
> calculator in 1966. And
> pay $30 per month to run it.
>
> THAT is what you want to prevent???
>
> My dear Thoreau, I invite you to jump into your
> scum covered pond.
>
>
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> Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
>
> Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
>
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> where
> prohibited by law. Not available in all mental
> states.
>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 4 14:35:12 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 4 14:35:18 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060204212356.71107.qmail@web51012.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert
Juliano" at Feb 04, 2006 01:23:56 PM
Message-ID: <20060204213512.40997.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Thank you for pointing these things out to Clyde.
>
> I was thinking of offering to leave him in central
> Maine...
(Insane laughter!)
Talk about no representation!!!
Hominis hominum lupus est.
But in central Maine, I guess it's more like:
Lupus hominum lupus est.
And you don't get to talk delicately about it before getting essen.
As without the (probably Chinese manufactured) shotgun, which you Hope
will work, you ARE the Delicatessen for the wolves!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 22:50:43 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 4 22:50:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060204212356.71107.qmail@web51012.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060205055044.91473.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Javilk,
Thank you for pointing these things out to Clyde.
I was thinking of offering to leave him in central
Maine...
Bob
--- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
> > THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
> > SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
> > EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
> > BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
> > FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE
> > NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN
> > TO LIVE FINANCIAL
> > UN-DEPENDENCE..?
> > UN-DEPENDENCE - ANTI-DEPENDENCE..
>
> Your definition of undependence is much like
> Thoreau and his Walden Pond.
OK.
IF NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY CAN'T
COEXIST IN PERFECT HARMONY, THEN
I CAN'T SEE ANY VALUE TO LIFE ITSELF.
THE HUMAN RACE, AS AN ENTIRETY
SHOULD THEN, JUST COMMIT MASS
SUICIDE.
CLYDE
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Feb 4 23:44:31 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sat Feb 4 23:44:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <20060205055051.1754D3987A@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060205064431.49384.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
"OK.
IF NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY CAN'T
COEXIST IN PERFECT HARMONY, THEN
I CAN'T SEE ANY VALUE TO LIFE ITSELF.
THE HUMAN RACE, AS AN ENTIRETY
SHOULD THEN, JUST COMMIT MASS
SUICIDE."
I think that whether they exist in harmony or not is not enough reason for me to commit suicide. I actually don't care if they are in harmony. I find meaning and purpose regardless of such pointless philosophical debates. We are encoded
in our DNA to make technology since Homo Habilus - the world will simply have to adapt. As will we.
If this causes unhinged individuals to promote some social Darwinism then we (and the gene pool ) can only benefit.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 00:54:20 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 00:54:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060205055044.91473.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 04, 2006 09:50:43 PM
Message-ID: <20060205075420.66754.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I was thinking of offering to leave him in central
> Maine...
>
> > > CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT
> > > THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING
> > > SYSTEM AND THE PUBLIC
> > > EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE
> > > BOTH, EQUALLY TO BLAME,
> > Your definition of undependence is much like
> > Thoreau and his Walden Pond.
>
> OK.
> IF NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY CAN'T
> COEXIST IN PERFECT HARMONY, THEN
> I CAN'T SEE ANY VALUE TO LIFE ITSELF.
> THE HUMAN RACE, AS AN ENTIRETY
> SHOULD THEN, JUST COMMIT MASS
> SUICIDE.
Clyde, Life is an art of balance.
Balance joy against sorrow...
work against personal pleasure
the sense of self against the sense of the world.
An art form. Some live it high, screwing others, taking everything
they can, risking they won't get screwed in the end... (and they often
do get royally screwed for it!) Others live a life of service, of
leadership...
Look at Schwartskopf, for instance. Or Patton. They chose
leadership, endured immense risk, built up the spirit of those soldiers
whom they lead. And when time came to Defend the Honor of the United
States, as it came many times in their service, they accepted the risk
of being shot, dismembered, crippled, even killed in service to this
great country. Schwartskopf told how the only thing that saved him in
one spot was trying to save someone else. Had he not reached out, the
next thing would have blown him up where he had stood. It is a life of
service.
Much less risk, are the CEOs of major corporations. Same kind of
competition to get to the top -- the guy who does the best job
motivating his troops, organizing things, addressing the needs of the
work, rises. Motivation of Others is what Leadership is about.
Inspiring them. And Strategy, risk taking. Mistakes cost you much!
The rise to the top takes thirty to fourty years in the corporate world.
Faster in the military world, but the risks and regulations are worse.
That too, is a life of service, not just to the company, but to the
consumers who buy the products the company makes.
Others, like Edison, chose the art of putting things together and
seeing what could be made of them, what others might be able to use them
for. The Art of Invention.
There is the art of marketing as well. What do people need? How
can we make it cheaper?
Or the art of art. How can we make something that expresses what
others feel? And a lot of carp art as well, the art of artistic
bulls-crapping others into believing that something has some essence...
Like that dog-poop-like statue some lunkhead BS-artist persuaded other
lunkhead gummament officials would honor the Mexican-Americans by
showing some Aztec God. A rather bloodthirsty one! I saw it, it does
indeed look like a spiral of poop.
On the home front, all of us have to live. Some of us like
classical music, others like silence... or TV (worst drug there is!),
conversation with friends about life, politics, hobbies, science, etc.
Life IS art. Art fills life.
Why do you think I keep harping about your getting a Camera,
Clyde? You need to start looking for something other than doom and
gloom. A camera lets you record and remember the beautiful things around
you.
But I guess you just want to reject the possibility of
redemption... You absolutely want the worst you can see all around you,
rejecting the craftsmanship of EVERY DAMNED THING AROUND YOU!!!
What do you eat your dinner off of, Clyde? Do you eat it out of a
pot? Even if you do, LOOK AT THAT THING! Someone designed it. They
thought about what it had to do, how to make the metal, cladding
aluminum to steel, or copper to steel, or whatever.
Look at your dinner plate. Does it have any kind of pattern to
it? Look at the shape. The ridges, the etc. Someone designed that.
Someone spent a LOT OF TIME to design it. It and a lot of other things.
Then someone chose the colors, looking over many different colors. I
have some green cups, Martha Stewart Green. She looked for harmony in
colors, and chose that. It's a skill. It makes that cup look better
than some white or brown cup. It's more than a skill, it's a form of
art, not just a piece of junk you might find in a more primitive
society.
The reason Tulsa looks so terrible to you, is because you have
blinded yourself to art. You have deliberately rejected that anything
CAN be beautiful.
Why have you done this?
You need to UN-DO it!
That is why I keep harping about the camera. You need to show
yourself, remind yourself, feed the resonance of art till it CAN ring in
your mind.
Science IS art too! It is the art of asking the right questions.
It is the art of coaxing the equipment to reveal what is not yet known.
It is the art of feeling what might be there, of figuring out how to
determine whether it is there, and exposing some new secret to the
minds of the world.
Look at the cups you have in your home. Set them side by side.
Then stare at them for 15 minutes, tracing the edges with your eyes,
looking at the play of light on the glaze, wondering how they were made.
No less than 15 minutes!
(I just hope you have some decent looking cups, not the kind of crap
coming out of Mexico. Maybe you need to go buy a nice cup before you do
this...)
You have to see the beauty of Nature AND the beauty of man-created
things.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 02:20:28 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 02:20:34 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <20060205064431.49384.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 04, 2006 10:44:31 PM
Message-ID: <20060205092028.48544.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IF NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY CAN'T
> COEXIST IN PERFECT HARMONY, THEN
> I CAN'T SEE ANY VALUE TO LIFE ITSELF.
> THE HUMAN RACE, AS AN ENTIRETY
> SHOULD THEN, JUST COMMIT MASS
> SUICIDE."
>
> I think that whether they exist in harmony or not is not enough reason
> for me to commit suicide. I actually don't care if they are in
> harmony. I find meaning and purpose regardless of such pointless philosophical
> debates.
> We are encoded in our DNA to make technology since Homo Habilus -
> the world will simply have to adapt. As will we.
DUH!
What is harmony in nature?
Fight! Eat or be eaten. Eventually be eaten.
How... how can we see that as harmony in nature? Blood and gore,
harmony???
Then rot, harmony???
Well, in a way, all turns in the circle. The death, the crap
fertilizes and all goes round and round.
But do the dying consider it harmony? Does the bird mother
screaming her heart out trying to protect her brood consider the bobcat
part of Nature's Harmony?
So of course, the individual, be it human or animal, will not
consider, will not see nature as harmonious with respect to himself!
(Other than when he tramples what is and creates an un-natural garden.)
> If this causes unhinged individuals to promote some social Darwinism
> then we (and the gene pool ) can only benefit.
An interesting thought! Some of those eco-nuts really are
eco-nuts!
(Not that I don't believe in being ecologically responsible. It's
just that my sense of ecological responsibility is, let us say, less
stringent than someone who would never cut a tree down for shelter.
Humans first! But forests CAN BE nice places, if not too damp, etc.
Not all forests need be nice places for us... We do need diversity.
Sopping malls and forests.)
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
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Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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Arthritis
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Feb 5 04:54:36 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 04:54:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
Message-ID: <259.64ae922.3117417c@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/5/2006 2:55:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
You have to see the beauty of Nature AND the beauty of man-created
things.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . I wonder if Clyde has the ability to
see beauty in ANYTHING ???
You cannot teach someone to recognize beauty, this comes from something in
the human brain that jolts you , causing a wonderful feeling of joy,
exaltation and a calming feeling as one bathes themselves in the feeling.
One must have an imagination to see beauty when at first look, there is none
Clyde is a person with no original imagination, He becomes curious about
other peoples ideas, but doesn't seem capable of forming his own inspirations.
Being negative as he is about life in general, his lack of original thought
and enjoyment in being so , that will hold him back unless he makes some
major changes in his life.
At this point, Clyde does not want to see beauty, he does not want to be
positive, he gets his rush from ignoring the best and concentrating on the
worse.
Were Clyde to arise one morning and find everything changed, he was healthy
as an athlete, no more war, everyone well fed and happy, Why Clyde would be
the most miserable person on earth. He would try to find others who thought
as he does, form an army and try to put things back to where they are today.
I believe Clyde lives for and thrives on being negative. A good dose of
being positive would give him the vapors for a week.
Regards Vesta
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 06:33:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY,
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Message-ID: <20060205133329.72906.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_pledge.html
The word: indivisible needs to be dissected and analyzed as to
its full linguistic definition, meaning, and interpretation.
Does indivisible have identicle definition as undivisible?
Clyde Lofton Jr.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 07:05:11 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Indivisible; Undivisible; and Undividable..!
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Does the word indivisible have exact identicle definition
as that of both un-divis-i[ve]-[a]ble, and un-divid[e]-able?
America is still we the people, isn't it?
Clyde
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 08:02:42 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 08:02:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WE CAN WORK IT OUT LYRICS;
TRANSLATION: THE BEATLES, AND TESLA.
Message-ID: <20060205150243.93117.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
WE CAN WORK IT OUT:
TRY TO SEE IT MY WAY.
DO I HAVE TO KEEP ON TALKIN' TILL I CAN'T GO ON?
WHILE YOU SEE IT YOUR WAY.
RISK OF KNOWING THAT OUR LOVE MAY SOON BE GONE.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
THINK OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU CAN GET IT WRONG AND STILL YOU THINK THAT IT'S ALRIGHT.
THINK OF WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT AND GET IT STRAIGHT OR SAY GOODNIGHT.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
LIFE IS VERY SHORT, AND THERE'S NO TIME.
FOR FUSSING AND FIGHTING, MY FRIENDS..!
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT'S A CRIME.
SO I WILL ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN.
TRY TO SEE IT MY WAY.
ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF I AM RIGHT OR IF I'M WRONG.
WHILE YOU SEE IT YOUR WAY.
THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE MAY FALL APART BEFORE TOO LONG.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
LIFE IS VERY SHORT, AND THERE'S NO TIME.
FOR FUSSING AND FIGHTING, MY FRIENDS..!
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT'S A CRIME.
SO I WILL ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN.
TRY TO SEE IT MY WAY.
ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF I AM RIGHT OR IF I'M WRONG.
WHILE I SEE IT YOUR WAY.
THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE MAY FALL APART BEFORE TOO LONG.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 08:43:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CORAL CASTLE.
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http://www.coralcastle.com/
http://www.crystalinks.com/coralcastle.html
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 10:49:32 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 10:49:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Indivisible; Undivisible; and Undividable..!
In-Reply-To: <20060205140506.34472.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 05, 2006 06:05:06 AM
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> Does the word indivisible have exact identicle definition
> as that of both un-divis-i[ve]-[a]ble, and un-divid[e]-able?
No. Not because of the roots of the words, but because mere Words
do not have exact definitions. Human beings are not exact, they vary a
lot in their interpretation of words, in their thoughts and their deeds.
That is part of the beauty of humans.
> America is still we the people, isn't it?
As much as they wish to be. Many do not wish it. Many wish the
government to think for them. Others wish the government would think
more like them.
We do not all agree. If we did, we would make larger blunders.
Here, because of our disagreements and our right to free speech, we get
to discuss, argue, thrash it out to see whether something is good or
bad; whether something is worth trying or not worth trying, and how to
find out without putting us all at risk.
What does the word indivisible really mean? I do not know. Atoms
are indivisible. Yet scientists have learned how to break them.
American people are clearly divisible and divided on many opinions; yet
when it comes to an emergency, we often act as one.
I keep coming back to the Loma Prieta Earthquake, where the poorest
of the poor in Oakland, California came out of their slum homes, climbed
the
crumbling Cypress Structure elevated roadway, and risked their lives to
save some of the richer people trapped in their BMW's, Mercedes, and
Lexus. Why? Because we ARE a people! Because whether we are rich, or
poor, We Are A People, and are a stronger, more homogenous people than,
say, those in Bosnia with it's ethnic cleansing.
To me, that moment Defines America, defines what it means to be
American! We care about each other! Care about each other ore than
about our individual selves. More so than the people of many other
nations, despite our often greater differences.
Perhaps that is what best defines indivisible as used in the pledge
of allegiance. We are a people who help each other in times of trouble.
Because we see that we are each other, we are our brother's keeper, our
sister's keeper, our nation's keeper.
Why are we this way? I think it because we created enough wealth
with our own hands, that we feel good enough about ourselves, both from
the possesions and our ability to create more, that we CAN share.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 11:12:38 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 11:12:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <259.64ae922.3117417c@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 05,
2006 06:54:36 AM
Message-ID: <20060205181238.60063.qmail@mall-net.com>
>> You have to see the beauty of Nature AND the beauty of man-created
>> things.
>
>
> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . I wonder if Clyde has the ability to
> see beauty in ANYTHING ???
We must hope so. And if not today, then maybe soon.
> You cannot teach someone to recognize beauty, this comes from something in
> the human brain that jolts you , causing a wonderful feeling of joy,
> exaltation and a calming feeling as one bathes themselves in the feeling.
True and false. There comes a time when, having seen enough of
something and wondered about it, one begins to see the beauty and
harmony in that something.
> One must have an imagination to see beauty when at first look, there is none
How true!
I remember well one day in my youth when I saw some dog turds with
flies upon the road. Filth! Ugliness... and yet, the way this one set
was positioned, the glint of the sun upon the bodies of the flies...
There was beauty in that as well as stinking ugliness. I remember
thinking the dog was healthy and well fed from how well formed the crap
was. And how nicely the pattern of lies sat, now beautiful the green
iridescence of their bodies was.
Yes, it was still stinking crap! Ad the same time as it had some
traces of beauty.
I remember another time, a time when I had the Nirvana experience.
I was stopped on a muddy dirt road in the forest on a cold damp night.
And then, the world was as if engraved in liquid silver, more
beautiful than the finest etched Christmas card I'd ever seen.
Yet it was also still a wretched hard to travel dirt road that
destroys cars.
> Clyde is a person with no original imagination, He becomes curious about
> other peoples ideas, but doesn't seem capable of forming his own inspirations.
I would not say that he has no imagination. If he had none, his
reports of his home town would be factual. Clearly, they are not. If
he had none, he would not think his neighbors or the government were
interested in him, when we think they are not.
So there is some imagination.
> Being negative as he is about life in general, his lack of original thought
> and enjoyment in being so , that will hold him back unless he makes some
> major changes in his life.
Immensely so. America is an economy not just of knowledge, but of
imagination. If we can not imagine a thing in our minds, we can not
describe it, nor build it.
> Were Clyde to arise one morning and find everything changed, he was healthy
> as an athlete, no more war, everyone well fed and happy, Why Clyde would be
> the most miserable person on earth. He would try to find others who thought
> as he does, form an army and try to put things back to where they are today.
I think you have inadvertently hit the nail upon the head. If Clyde
were healthy.
If Clyde were to wake in the morning feeling well, he would not
seek in the world that which resonates with his bad feelings. And then
soon, would see the true beauty of life.
> I believe Clyde lives for and thrives on being negative. A good dose of
> being positive would give him the vapors for a week.
On the contrary! They would enlighten him, and I think teach his
body to seek wellness rather than brambling discomfort.
The body and mind work together. When one seeks beauty, one's
body better seeks health. When one seeks ugliness, one's body seeks that
thing which Steve McQueen once described as the grittiness of broken
glass within. It is that which killed him, I think; that which
encouraged his body to develop cancer.
Which is why I believe we should help our fellow mad scientist,
and fellow human being, to seek some beauty via various exercises we
may develop, that he may strive to become healthier and more
appreciative of the beauty and humanity about him.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 12:39:26 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 12:39:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Beautiful Nature Photo!!!
Message-ID: <20060205193926.28999.qmail@mall-net.com>
This site shows a NASA related photo every day. Astronomy, weather,
astronautics. Nature in it's largest, and mankind, we think, at it's
best.
Today's is particularly beautiful! A Sun Pillar.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Clyde, do you see beauty in this? Does it not stir something in
your soul, something deep within? Tell us what you see and feel looking
at this photo.
And after I finish today's work, I'll take some time to describe
what I feel.
Got to run!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Feb 5 13:01:10 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 13:01:33 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
Message-ID: <2ee.946c34.3117b386@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/5/2006 1:13:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
Which is why I believe we should help our fellow mad scientist,
and fellow human being, to seek some beauty via various exercises we
may develop, that he may strive to become healthier and more
appreciative of the beauty and humanity about him
How is one to do this John, we can encourage but if there is no
understanding of a basic concept, what then??
I am thinking that we have a friend, a man we have spoken to and exchanged
ideas with for quiet some time.As time goes on, I feel the pricking of my
thumbs, I am now believing that our friend may become prime picking for the hate
mongers. Sooner or later they will try to recruit him for some hate group.
>, that he may strive to become healthier and more
>appreciative of the beauty and humanity about him
Clyde is not striving, he in fact has rejected our ideas. Clyde is a
standing victim . 70 years ago had he lived he would have joined the brown shirts
of Germany and lost any sanity left to the Nazi powers.
Today Clyde would make a good Arian Nation member, they hate everyone and
everything. We don't really know about Clyde, if he is a black man, I wonder
how the Black Muslems have not picked him up.
Clyde has become our friend, we talk and exchange ideas, there is one thing
I wonder about.
The lyrics to songs seem to hold a special meaning to Clyde, I wonder if he
has ever heard the lyrics to The Sound Of Silence People who look
without seeing, the people who hear without listening.
or how about this one
"The Logical Song" by Supertramp
When i was young
It seemed that life was so wonderful
A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical
And all the birds in the trees
Well they?d be singing so happily
Oh joyfully, oh playfully watching me
But then they sent me away
To teach me how to be sensible
Logical, oh responsible ,practical
And they showed me a world
Where i could be so dependable
Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical
There are times when all the world?s asleep
The questions run too deep
For such a simple man
Won?t you please, please tell me what we?ve learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who i am
Now watch what you say
Or they?ll be calling you a radical
A liberal, oh fanatical, criminal
Oh won?t you sign up your name
We?d like to feel you?re
Acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!
At night when all the world?s asleep
The questions run too deep
For such a simple man
Won?t you please, please tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who i am, who i am ,who i am
Regards Vesta
The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 15:40:48 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 15:41:08 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: <2ee.946c34.3117b386@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 05,
2006 03:01:10 PM
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>> Which is why I believe we should help our fellow mad scientist, =20
>> and fellow human being, to seek some beauty via various exercises we
>> may develop, that he may strive to become healthier and more =20
>> appreciative of the beauty and humanity about him
>
> How is one to do this John, we can encourage but if there is no =20
> understanding of a basic concept, what then??
Well, what can we do? Or more, what can we not do. For our
inability to go to him and show him sites which we consider beautiful,
certainly limits our abilities to reach his soul.
Now, since I signed up to be some kind of minister, I can not
simply let this thing go as easily as you can. (What, I actually signed
on that dotted line??? Oy! And it isn't just Clyde, believe me, it
isn't just Clyde! As a friend and I discussed other issues, he asked me
if this (the issue) was the hill I was willing to die on. Well, I
asked, is that not better than stumbling, falling in some gutter
somewhere, and drowning? I kind of think so.) So I have got to go on
and keep trying a little longer with matters like these.
So what can we do to encourage Clyde's soul?
> I am thinking that we have a friend, a man we have spoken to and exchanged=20
> ideas with for quiet some time.As time goes on, I feel the pricking of my=20
> thumbs, I am now believing that our friend may become prime picking for the=
> hate mongers.
> Sooner or later they will try to recruit him for some hate group.=
Indeed! Prime pickings.
As good characters and souls, do we stand by idle?
> >, that he may strive to become healthier and more =20
> >appreciative of the beauty and humanity about him
> Clyde is not striving, he in fact has rejected our ideas. Clyde is a=20
> standing victim . 70 years ago had he lived he would have joined the brown=
> shirts of Germany and lost any sanity left to the Nazi powers.=20
Maybe. But things change.
As someone once said, all it takes for evil to triumph, is the
inaction of good souls.
> The lyrics to songs seem to hold a special meaning to Clyde, I wonder if he=20=
> has ever heard the lyrics to The Sound Of Silence People who look=20
> without seeing, the people who hear without listening.
Interesting point. Music serves as the pacemaker for the brain in
some ways. It is an independent system to language, an almost language
with a strong memory capability.
In some ways, it may be serving as a backup brain for Clyde, one
striving to re-animate the good within him.
The sounds of silence is indeed an interesting piece; perhaps too
slow for Clyde's fast paced brain. Mine is a little slower. But then,
the depths of my thoughts are long and deep, so my brain takes longer,
prefers a longer beat.
I keep wondering if Clyde would have a transcendent religious
experience from coating himself with live culture yogurt and standing in
the bath tub for an hour every night. Some people do. Why? Because it
kills off skin fungi which poison the brain. It is perhaps less messy
than anointing with cold pressed organic olive oil, which is the
biblical equivalent. (Seriously not recommend ordinary olive oil due to
the presence of trace hexane and other extraction chemistry.)
How do I know? Well.... when I had what turned out to be a skin
infection of fungi, that's what I did. Two weeks, major turnaround!
(Hell, major turn around in the physical the first day; but we are
talking spiritual experience, not physical experience.) Not just my
health; but my entire mood changed from pessimistic survival to buoyant
optimism. Got a lot more done, too, because you can't stop a buoyant
positive person! He always finds a way around problem, through problems,
over problems, etc. So I kept that yogurt thing up for years, standing
in the tub for an hour at night while reading my magazines.
More recently, I developed a fungus infection on my hands,
including a bad problem with the nail on my thumb. Biblical (organic
cold pressed) olive oil again, twice a day. The fungus stopped, and
though the nail had developed a delamination pocket, that stopped
growing and eventually grew off. I've also used organic cold pressed
olive oil on my feet to combat a case of athlete's foot with similar
results.
What is the significance of skin fungus? Well, it produces
acetaldehyde, what makes some drunks mean and grumbly. And metabolizes
into things having morphine-like narcotic properties. Others produce
alcohol, which makes people drunk. Either way, it overloads the
cytochrome P450 system, making people more sensitive to air pollution.
And Clyde also complains a lot about that.
Could it be that such things are keeping Clyde down? Possibly.
He might also interpret such yogurt applications as a little bit of
decadent luxury that he is due for the crappy life he now lives. But it
only takes a quarter to half a cup. Do warm it gently by setting the
cup containing it in some warm water, not in the microwave. And apply
to the base of the skull first, as that causes the soul to accept it and
the body not to think it cold.
Interesting thoughts... If I didn't have to haul my own water and
heat it in five gallon batches, I'd be doing that today.
Clyde needs to transcend, to have some kind of transcendent
experience. As a minister of Our Grand Creatorial Agency, (aka God,
Allah, or whatever name you find harmonious with your beliefs), it is my
religious opinion that one or two weeks of yogurt-on-the-soul therapy,
nightly "Baptism by Yogurt" might help Clyde gain Transcendence,
clearing the way for the rebirth of his soul.
Put it this way, it's going to be a lot easier than growing a Lotus
or getting him to buy that digital camera. And you know, it's probably
not such a bad thing for some of us to do, either.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 17:53:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 17:53:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Beautiful Nature Photo!!!
In-Reply-To: <20060205193926.28999.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060206005344.79398.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
This site shows a NASA related photo every day. Astronomy, weather,
astronautics. Nature in it's largest, and mankind, we think, at it's
best.
Today's is particularly beautiful! A Sun Pillar.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Clyde, do you see beauty in this?
RIGHT ON..!
ABSOLUTELY COOL AS COOL CAN BE..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 17:59:34 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Indivisible; Undivisible; and Undividable..!
In-Reply-To: <20060205174932.41139.qmail@mall-net.com>
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Does the word indivisible have exact identicle definition
> as that of both un-divis-i[ve]-[a]ble, and un-divid[e]-able?
No. Not because of the roots of the words, but because mere Words
do not have exact definitions. Human beings are not exact, they vary a
lot in their interpretation of words, in their thoughts and their deeds.
That is part of the beauty of humans.
> America is still we the people, isn't it?
As much as they wish to be. Many do not wish it. Many wish the
government to think for them. Others wish the government would think
more like them.
We do not all agree. If we did, we would make larger blunders.
Here, because of our disagreements and our right to free speech, we get
to discuss, argue, thrash it out to see whether something is good or
bad; whether something is worth trying or not worth trying, and how to
find out without putting us all at risk.
What does the word indivisible really mean? I do not know. Atoms
are indivisible.
BEING DIVISIBLE FROM WITHIN [INTERNAL] SUBDIVISIONS]..!
THAT ISN'T A GOOD SIGN.
BUT WE THE PEOPLE CAN CORRECT IT
IF WE NEED TO DO SO..!
Yet scientists have learned how to break them.
YEP.
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 18:08:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Beautiful Nature Photo!!!
In-Reply-To: <20060206005344.79398.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 05, 2006 04:53:44 PM
Message-ID: <20060206010803.59138.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Today's is particularly beautiful! A Sun Pillar.
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
> Clyde, do you see beauty in this?
>
> RIGHT ON..!
> ABSOLUTELY COOL AS COOL CAN BE..!
But what do you feel inside as you see it? What do you see? What
does it make you think?
Describe those, and I'll describe my feelings. Then perhaps someone
else will describe theirs.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 18:43:32 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 18:43:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Beautiful Nature Photo!!!
In-Reply-To: <20060206010803.59138.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060206014332.11092.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Today's is particularly beautiful! A Sun Pillar.
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
> Clyde, do you see beauty in this?
>
> RIGHT ON..!
> ABSOLUTELY COOL AS COOL CAN BE..!
But what do you feel inside as you see it? What do you see? What
does it make you think?
I'VE GOT SO MANY IDEAS ABOUT THE PHOTO AND SO
MANY OTHER IDEAS GOING ON IN MY MIND AT THE
SAME TIME - THE REASON WHY I AM ALWAYS UNDER
SO MUCH STRESS.
WITHOUT POSTING THE WEBLINKS; ONE WEBLINK OF
WHICH I ALREADY POSTED; THERE ARE TWO SONGS -
THAT IS, IF YOU ALL HAVE THE TIME TO SEARCH AND
READ THE LYRICS TO BOTH OF THE SONGS, BY DOING
A WEB SEARCH;
FIRST SONG: LIFE MEANS SO MUCH, BY: CHRIS RICE.
SECOND SONG: SERENITY, BY: GODSMACK.
Describe those, and I'll describe my feelings.
THE FALLING OF THE ICE CRYSTALS PRODUCING THE
SUN PILLAR, REMINDED ME OF THE MESOPHASIC CHANGES
THAT OCCUR IN CLOUD FORMATIONS; THE FLUCTUATIONS
IN ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURES, AND THE FLUCTUATIONS IN
ATMOSPHERIC TEMPERATURES, ETC.
ICE CRYSTAL CLOUDS - THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH THE
ATMOSPHERIC HEATING BY THE SUN, WITH THE RELATIVITY
BETWEEN THE ALTITUDE OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE
CLOUDS, CAUSING THE CLOUDS TO FALL TO THE
MOUNTAIN TOPS.
Then perhaps someone else will describe theirs.
OK.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 5 19:10:11 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 5 19:10:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Beautiful Nature Photo!!!
In-Reply-To: <20060206014332.11092.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 05, 2006 05:43:32 PM
Message-ID: <20060206021011.6797.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I'VE GOT SO MANY IDEAS ABOUT THE PHOTO AND SO
> MANY OTHER IDEAS GOING ON IN MY MIND AT THE
> SAME TIME - THE REASON WHY I AM ALWAYS UNDER
> SO MUCH STRESS.
>
> WITHOUT POSTING THE WEBLINKS; ONE WEBLINK OF
> WHICH I ALREADY POSTED; THERE ARE TWO SONGS -
> THAT IS, IF YOU ALL HAVE THE TIME TO SEARCH AND
> READ THE LYRICS TO BOTH OF THE SONGS, BY DOING
> A WEB SEARCH;
>
> FIRST SONG: LIFE MEANS SO MUCH, BY: CHRIS RICE.
> SECOND SONG: SERENITY, BY: GODSMACK.
>
> Describe those, and I'll describe my feelings.
>
> THE FALLING OF THE ICE CRYSTALS PRODUCING THE
> SUN PILLAR, REMINDED ME OF THE MESOPHASIC CHANGES
> THAT OCCUR IN CLOUD FORMATIONS; THE FLUCTUATIONS
> IN ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURES, AND THE FLUCTUATIONS IN
> ATMOSPHERIC TEMPERATURES, ETC.
> ICE CRYSTAL CLOUDS - THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH THE
> ATMOSPHERIC HEATING BY THE SUN, WITH THE RELATIVITY
> BETWEEN THE ALTITUDE OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE
> CLOUDS, CAUSING THE CLOUDS TO FALL TO THE
> MOUNTAIN TOPS.
I see a pillar, reminiscent of other pillars I've seen, perhaps the
fluting of the columns in the Greek temples is due to the rays in some
of these...
Red, unreal... Power! Something important... Is that why they put
important things on pedestals? Why kinds trod on red carpets?
Then there is that hand reaching for it. A hand, four fingers and
a thumb! A hand reaching for the power. The hand of God? Or merely
the result of five airplane contrails?
Stunning beauty!
Yes, ice crystals... I wonder if I'll be able to see anything like
this out here some sunset. Whether we are past the coldest days here
yet, or not. We have the sea, so it would have to get really, really
cold out before we'd likely get that much of airborne ice crystals.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 19:13:37 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 5 19:13:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNCOMPLETE.
Message-ID: <20060206021337.21141.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
LITTLE METAL POWERHOUSE IS UNCOMPLETE.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 01:55:21 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 01:55:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE NORTH AMERICAN SUNDIAL SOCIETY,
AND SUNDIAL INFORMATION.
Message-ID: <20060206085521.22998.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
THE NORTH AMERICAN SUNDIAL SOCIETY:
http://sundials.org/
MAKING SUNDIALS FOR THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE:
http://solar.physics.montana.edu/YPOP/Classroom/Lessons/Sundials/sundials.html
MAKING SUNDIALS FOR THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE:
http://solar.physics.montana.edu/YPOP/Classroom/Lessons/Sundials/sundials_S.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 02:05:12 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 02:05:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [WITH ADDITION:] Odic force.
In-Reply-To: <20060204140216.26336.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060206090512.33675.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
WITH ADDITION:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> Re; Prana, Kundalini, Ch'i, Odic Force and Orgone - I think they are all the same. (BTW I have experienced ch'i directly through meditation.)
>
> "In the mid-19th century Baron Carl von Reichenbach, an accomplished chemist (known for his analysis of creosote, waxy paraffin, and phenol) gave the name Odic force (also called Od [?d] and Odyle) to a hypothetical vital energy or life force. Proponents of the concept suggest that Odic force permeates all living plants, animals, and humans.
STRANGE; BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
MAGNETIC CURRENT IS.
BIOMAGNETIC AND MICROELECTRIC ENERGY
PERMEATING ALL LIFE..!
LEEDSKALNI N ALSO KNEW ABOUT IT, AND
WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
AND AS OZZY OSBOURNE SAYS:
DON'T NEED NO ASTROLOGY; IT'S INSIDE OF
YOU AND ME.
AND SACRED GEOMETRY; SACRED TRIGONOMETRY;
SACRED CARTOGRAPHY; SACRED MAGNETRICITY;
SACRED ELECTRICITY - ETC. AS WELL.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 07:15:56 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 07:16:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SILENT WARRIOR.
Message-ID: <20060206141556.48725.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.michaelcretu.com/enigma/lyrics/silent_warrior
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 07:33:46 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 07:33:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE RAINBOW
CONNECTION....
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND THEIR RELATIVITY TO THE BIBLICAL
> STORY OF THE TOWER OF BABEL; AND IN THE RELATION TO
> MUSLIMS AND ISLAM - SHOW THAT THE NATIVE AMERICANS ARE
> HERE ON PLANET EARTH TO SHOW WHITE MAN, MUSLIMS,
> ASIANS, MUSLIM INDIANS, AND ALL OTHER PEOPLES OF THIS
> WORLD THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE TOGETHER, WITH LOVE,
> HAPPINESS, AND PEACE AND SERENITY TOGETHER, IN TOTAL
> HARMONY, HERE ON PLANET EARTH; AS ONE UNITED WORLD
> UNDER GOD; AS ONE UNITED WORLD UNDER THE GREAT
> SPIRIT...!
I guess you've never read anything about the history of the American
Indian.
I'VE READ A LITTLE BIT.
Some were warriors, some were pacifists (didn't last) and a lot
of them killed each other in various wars.
THE CHOCTAWS WERE THE PACIFIST TYPE; THOUGH
WHEN CHALLENGED, THEY WERE AGGRESSIVE, AND
WOULD DEFEND THEIR TERRITORY.
When they got European guns and horses, the warfare increased
dramatically. No longer could they only fight those whom they could
sneak up on at night; they could now fight those whom they could
attack any time.
OK.
IS THERE ANY GOOD REASON WHY THE SKULL AND
CROSSBONES SOCIETY WOULD RAID THE GRAVE OF
GERONIMO, AT FORT SILL, HERE IN OKLAHOMA?
WHAT IS THERE, BETWEEN THE NAZI SKULL AND
CROSSBONES SOCIETY, AND THE MODERN KONTROL OVER
THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF THIS COUNTRY?
AND THERE ARE ALSO THE NATIVE AMERICANS WHO
WERE USED AS CODE TALKERS, DURING WORLD WAR
TWO; WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS BOMBED BY THE
JAPANESE..!
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Feb 6 09:56:41 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Feb 6 09:58:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sun pillar thoghts
References: <20060206143354.1C20F39877@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <020d01c62b3e$4e31efa0$6401a8c0@triad.rr.com>
Creation...
The insignifigance of a mere man in this great universe...
A pillar of God's Light...
The power of the future...
and the fleetingness of this moment.
Laus Deo! Carpe diem!
-MB
From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 6 11:53:08 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 6 11:53:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sun pillar thoghts
In-Reply-To: <020d01c62b3e$4e31efa0$6401a8c0@triad.rr.com> from "Michael Best"
at Feb 06, 2006 11:56:41 AM
Message-ID: <20060206185308.22229.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Creation...
>
> The insignifigance of a mere man in this great universe...
Well, yes. the magnificence and immenseness of it does make us feel
small.
> A pillar of God's Light...
A cloud at the top, and you have the holy grail. Would not be that
uncommon, I think, relative to seeing such a pillar.
> The power of the future...
The Road to Heaven!
Probably also Yggdrasil, The Tree of Life and other name. in the
northern and sourthern parts of the world.
The more primitive mind makes all kinds of symbolism of it.
This reminds me of the squirrels on the ranch. They would gather
quietly in the evening, 40 or 50 of them, greeting those whom they knew
by quietly nosing each other, taking turns, some almost like introducing
the more distant relatives. They would take up positions on the logs
and edges of a bridge across a little stream, and sit quietly, almost
reverently as the sun cast a shadow climbing visibly up a hill. It was
almost like a religious mass. Then, the shadow done and light just
beginning to fade, they would slowly disperse, going home for the night.
Religion? Thanking The Great for their day of life? Unknown.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Feb 6 12:34:41 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 6 12:34:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
Message-ID:
In a message dated 2/5/2006 5:41:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
I keep wondering if Clyde would have a transcendent religious
experience from coating himself with live culture yogurt and standing in
the bath tub for an hour every night. Some people do. Why? Because it
kills off skin fungi which poison the brain. It is perhaps less messy
than anointing with cold pressed organic olive oil, which is the
biblical equivalent. (Seriously not recommend ordinary olive oil due to
the presence of trace hexane and other extraction chemistry
JOHN-----After I quit howling over the mental image you gave me in your
post, I had to take an hour to calm down.
I hope this makes sense to you as I still shake with laughter at the mental
images of a grown man standing stark naked in a tub covered with yogurt
reading a book for an hour.
Were my family to catch me doing any such thing, I would with in the hour be
found strapped to a hospital bed having transcendent religious experiences
with the drugs the head Doctors would be pumping in me.
When questioned about my reasons for such bazaar behavior, how could I tell
them I was told to do so by a stranger I met online , this man is not a doctor
but some kind of Minister.
Geeee come to think about it, I just may have found a way to retire early
with SS Mental Disability.
Seriously, Yogurt is a wonder food. Woman douche with it when they acquire a
yeast infection, often the male has to use it as a salve to prevent re
infecting the woman.
One thing you may not have thought of is after washing off the yogurt, smear
honey all over your body for another hour. Honey is another wonder food that
never spoils and keeps out harmful bacteria. Rinse off honey with apple
cider vinegar.
I would think twice about this if you live in bear country. The wonderful
smell of your body would have those damn critters banging on your door and
trying to come down your chimney.
You said:: . And apply
to the base of the skull first, as that causes the soul to accept it and
the body not to think it cold.
Now John, why do you think a person's soul is in the head ??? Could it not
be in the heart or big toe ??
You have also told us that your wife tried to kill you several times, is it
possible because of what you also said------ " So I kept that yogurt
thing up for years, standing
in the tub for an hour at night while reading my magazines???? "
I apologize for taking something you obviously feel strongly about in such a
frivolous manor, perhaps you will forgive me.
What ever, you have given me the gift of laughter until my belly ached.
THANK YOU
I really needed that.
Regards Vesta
The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 6 13:46:58 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 6 13:47:02 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE RAINBOW
In-Reply-To: <20060206143346.42169.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 06, 2006 06:33:46 AM
Message-ID: <20060206204658.18224.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> OK.
> IS THERE ANY GOOD REASON WHY THE SKULL AND
> CROSSBONES SOCIETY WOULD RAID THE GRAVE OF
> GERONIMO, AT FORT SILL, HERE IN OKLAHOMA?
Bragging rights. Typical college stunt by kids who don't yet think
clearly.
> WHAT IS THERE, BETWEEN THE NAZI SKULL AND
> CROSSBONES SOCIETY, AND THE MODERN KONTROL OVER
> THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF THIS COUNTRY?
Nothing.
> AND THERE ARE ALSO THE NATIVE AMERICANS WHO
> WERE USED AS CODE TALKERS, DURING WORLD WAR
> TWO; WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS BOMBED BY THE
> JAPANESE..!
Yes. Worked rather well, in part because they had to describe things
rather than name them. the descriptions would vary, not make sense as
specific words could.
While there was some standardization of phraseology in the service,
the multiple ways of rendering something mean the opponents have to
learn the whole language. For example, Dawn might be rendered as when the
sun rises, when the golden girl peeks over the wall, or other common
phrases of that language.
We could have done some of that ourselves; but military
communications draws literal people, not poets, and our language is
known, so references are fairly easy to understand. Indeed, they study
Grant's terse communications because unlike the flourishes and elaborate
indirection of upper class speech of the time, Grant was clear and to
the point. And that make it clear and to the point for all listeners,
not just the intended recipient.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 19:18:00 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 19:18:10 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE RAINBOW
In-Reply-To: <20060206204658.18224.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060207021800.1123.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> OK.
> IS THERE ANY GOOD REASON WHY THE SKULL AND
> CROSSBONES SOCIETY WOULD RAID THE GRAVE OF
> GERONIMO, AT FORT SILL, HERE IN OKLAHOMA?
Bragging rights. Typical college stunt by kids who don't yet think
clearly.
> WHAT IS THERE, BETWEEN THE NAZI SKULL AND
> CROSSBONES SOCIETY, AND THE MODERN KONTROL OVER
> THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF THIS COUNTRY?
Nothing.
> AND THERE ARE ALSO THE NATIVE AMERICANS WHO
> WERE USED AS CODE TALKERS, DURING WORLD WAR
> TWO; WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS BOMBED BY THE
> JAPANESE..!
Yes. Worked rather well, in part because they had to describe things
rather than name them. the descriptions would vary, not make sense as
specific words could.
WITHOUT THROWING ANY HARSH WORDS; I WONDER HOW
UNFRIENDLY A CONVERSATION WOULD BE, BETWEEN MR.
MICHAEL CRETU OF ENIGMA, AND MR. GEORGE [THE] KAISER
OF 'THE BANK OF OKLAHOMA'..?
MR. MICHEAL CRETU OF ENIGMA:
http://www.michaelcretu.com/biography
MR. GEORGE [THE] KAISER'S CAMPAIN CONRIBUTIONS:
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/oklahoma_tulsa_74121.asp
MAYOR BILL LAFORTUNE IS FIRST ON THE LIST, GEORGE
[THE] KAISER IS SECOND:
http://www.nightingaletheater.com/press/hot100.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 19:23:53 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 19:23:58 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA: HELL ON EARTH..!
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TULSA OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 19:25:48 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 19:25:59 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..!
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MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..!
IF YOU PILE IT UP; IT STINKS..!
BUT IF YOU SPREAD IT AROUND;
IT GROWS THINGS..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 19:27:48 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 6 19:28:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CHANGING TULSA / CHANGING OKLAHOMA / CHANGING
AMERICA; FOR THE POSITIVE BETTER..!
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Message-ID: <20060207022749.59267.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
1. OBSERVATION: AMERICA HAS BECOME AN ALIEN NATION.
2. QUESTION: HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA; (AND/OR WE MAD SCIENTISTS) STIMULATE THE
ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT CAUSING CIVIL WAR
AMONGST US?
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Feb 6 21:26:25 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Feb 6 21:26:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Location of the soul
Message-ID: <010501c62b9e$a9246680$6401a8c0@triad.rr.com>
Medulla oblongata.
From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 6 21:56:03 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 6 21:56:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CHANGING TULSA / CHANGING OKLAHOMA / CHANGING
In-Reply-To: <20060207022749.59267.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 06, 2006 06:27:48 PM
Message-ID: <20060207045603.12896.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 1. OBSERVATION: AMERICA HAS BECOME AN ALIEN NATION.
I have not seen many aliens. I have seen people working in my field
who have H1B Visas... but they are not what I would call real aliens.
> 2. QUESTION: HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES
> OF AMERICA; (AND/OR WE MAD SCIENTISTS) STIMULATE THE
> ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT CAUSING CIVIL WAR
> AMONGST US?
Interesting question. I don't know.
What I recall from my experiences, is that any time we find better
ways of doing things, of making things, it does stimulate the general
economy. We sal this stimulation in the computer revolutions. The
early mainframes, the middle mainframes like the IBM 360, the later
mainframes and supercomputers, the first personal computers, the IBM
personal computer and their brilliant advertising campaign, e-mail
revolution, the web revolution and now the second web revolution.
What would help revolutionize America, what would really boost our
economy, is the generation of cheap energy. That is a realistic
revolution, one which keeps a lot of money at home, allowing us to spend
it on our own families and communities.
We are making progress with cheaper solar cells, wind power, some
other things. Cold fusion is once again on the list; but isn't that
productive an energy source. The latest is ultrasonic fusion; but it
generates neutrons and such. There is some hope for using the cosmic
background flux... but we don't know enough yet.
There are sites on the web that show you how you can build your
own windpower system, from the winding of the generator, to the cutting
of the propeller. I am modestly tempted; but the wind power here is
highly irregular. Most of the windmills I see here just don't make power
on a regular enough basis to be useful.
Some of the solar energy people are talking about solar boilers,
solar thermal vs solar voltaic.
Another major revolution would be cheap, durable home
stereolithography. Home Manufacturing. We have a lot of people making
their own furniture and home improvements now as a hobby. Enabling them
to make anything from dinner plates to chairs without the current
elaborate steps and huge selection of tools, would bring a fantastic
burst of creative art.
The stereolithography revolution is well underway! At the design
corporate design level. Contracting companies produce prototypes and
molds that way now. But it has not yet really reached the home level.
We are well into the imaging and printing revolution. 35mm cameras
are obsolete, as are home darkrooms. Konica-Minolta just pulled out of
the grocery store film developing business. Its' done with. For a
hundred bucks, you can buy a printer that will print as good prints as
taking them in to the grocery store.
Anybody else got any ideas for revolutionary technologies?
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 6 23:07:42 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 6 23:07:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL:] CAN'T PEOPLE SEE..?
In-Reply-To: from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 06,
2006 02:34:41 PM
Message-ID: <20060207060742.72914.qmail@mall-net.com>
>> I keep wondering if Clyde would have a transcendent religious
>> experience from coating himself with live culture yogurt and standing in
>> the bath tub for an hour every night. Some people do. Why? Because it
>> kills off skin fungi which poison the brain. It is perhaps less messy
>> than anointing with cold pressed organic olive oil, which is the
>> biblical equivalent. (Seriously not recommend ordinary olive oil due
>> to the presence of trace hexane and other extraction chemistry
>
> JOHN-----After I quit howling over the mental image you gave me in your
> post, I had to take an hour to calm down.
It is rather funny. However, when you rub it in, it does not show,
so the image of a man in white does not apply.
> Were my family to catch me doing any such thing, I would with in the hour be
> found strapped to a hospital bed having transcendent religious experiences
> with the drugs the head Doctors would be pumping in me.
Not if you explain it as an old technique for improving skin
condition. One which a doctor, a real MD recommended.
(He didn't recommend it for long... patients and colleagues did look
at him a little oddly. But he did recommend it for a while, and patients
who tried it said they did gain quite a bit of benefit from it.)
> When questioned about my reasons for such bazaar behavior, how could I tell
> them I was told to do so by a stranger I met online , this man is not a doctor
> but some kind of Minister.
> Geeee come to think about it, I just may have found a way to retire early
> with SS Mental Disability.
Laughing!!!
Actually, it's not that rare for someone to decide to cover
themselves with something like this. We have the biblical olive oil,
some crazy ladies who covered themselves with catchup and tried to rob a
bank or something once, etc.
> Seriously, Yogurt is a wonder food. Woman douche with it when they acquire a
> yeast infection, often the male has to use it as a salve to prevent re
> infecting the woman.
Yes indeed.
> One thing you may not have thought of is after washing off the yogurt, smear
> honey all over your body for another hour. Honey is another wonder food that
> never spoils and keeps out harmful bacteria. Rinse off honey with apple
> cider vinegar.
Not such a good idea. Honey does ferment, supports yeast. Apple
cider vinegar is a yeast product, and can thus create an adrenal jag in
people with yeast allergies, which is often followed by collapse. (I
have had such reactions to any yeast products.) Yeast on the skin is
particularly bad health wise.
> You said:: . And apply
> to the base of the skull first, as that causes the soul to accept it and
> the body not to think it cold.
>
> Now John, why do you think a person's soul is in the head ??? Could it not
> be in the heart or big toe ??
I found that by applying it to the base of the skull, the body
becomes attuned to the temperature of the yogurt, and does not complain
that it is not at body temperature.
> You have also told us that your wife tried to kill you several times, is it
> possible because of what you also said------ " So I kept that yogurt
> thing up for years, standing
> in the tub for an hour at night while reading my magazines???? "
No, that was before I got married. We tried it a few times, she
claimed it dried her skin, and stopped. And so did I. I did it some
times after we separated; but by then my skin was ok.
> I apologize for taking something you obviously feel strongly about in such a
> frivolous manor, perhaps you will forgive me.
It is funny! Even funnier, are the few times I picked up a good
novel, and stood reading till well past dawn. Net results? You smell
like cheese. It's harder to wash off. Niven and Clancy did that to me.
> What ever, you have given me the gift of laughter until my belly ached.
> THANK YOU
> I really needed that.
Good!
Now get the full benefit by trying it.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 7 06:46:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 7 06:46:33 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ALTERNATIVE INTERPRETATION:] THE RAINBOW
CONNECTION; BY: KERMIT THE FROG; AND ME.
Message-ID: <20060207134628.36272.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
[ALTERNATIVE INTERPRETATION:]
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION; BY: KERMIT THE FROG; AND ME:
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY, SONGS ABOUT
RAINBOWS; AND WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE?
RAINBOWS ARE VISIONS, BUT ONLY DILLUSIONS;
AND RAINBOWS HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD, AND SOME CHOOSE TO
BELIEVE IT.
I KNOW THEY'RE ALL WAIT AND SEE.
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS; THE DREAMERS; AND ME.
WHO SAID, THAT EVERY WISH, WOULD BE
HEARD AND ANSWERED, WHEN WISHED ON
THE MORNING STAR.
SOMEBODY, THOUGH OF THAT, AND SOMEONE
BELIEVED IT.
LOOK WHAT IT'S DONE, SO FAR.
WHAT'S SO AMAZING, THAT KEEPS US STAR
GAZING; AND WHAT DO WE THINK WE MIGHT
SEE?
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS; THE DREAMERS; AND ME.
ALL OF US, UNDER ITS SPELL.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY SCIENCE..!
HAVE YOU BEEN HALF ASLEEP; AND
HAVE YOU FELT NOISES?
I'VE FELT THEM SCREAMING MY NAME.
IS THIS, THE ENERGY, THAT CALLS THE
YOUNG SAILORS?
THE NOISE MIGHT BE ONE AND THE SAME.
I'VE FELT IT TOO MANY TIMES TO IGNORE IT.
IT'S SOMETHING, THAT I'M S'POSED TO BE.
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS, THE DREAMERS, AND ME.
LAAA, DA DA, DEEE, DA DA DOO, BA DAAA,
DA DA, DAA DEE DA DOOOOOOOO.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 7 06:57:36 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 7 06:57:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [WITH SPELLING CORRECTION] [ALTERNATIVE
INTERPRETATION:] THE RAINBOW CONNECTION; BY: KERMIT THE FROG;
AND ME.
Message-ID: <20060207135737.75671.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
[WITH SPELLING CORRECTION]
[ALTERNATIVE INTERPRETATION:]
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION; BY: KERMIT THE FROG; AND ME:
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY, SONGS ABOUT
RAINBOWS; AND WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE?
RAINBOWS ARE VISIONS, BUT ONLY DILLUSIONS;
AND RAINBOWS HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD, AND SOME CHOOSE TO
BELIEVE IT.
I KNOW THEY'RE ALL WAIT AND SEE.
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS; THE DREAMERS; AND ME.
WHO SAID, THAT EVERY WISH, WOULD BE
HEARD AND ANSWERED, WHEN WISHED ON
THE MORNING STAR.
SOMEBODY, THOUGHT OF THAT, AND SOMEONE
BELIEVED IT.
LOOK WHAT IT'S DONE, SO FAR.
WHAT'S SO AMAZING, THAT KEEPS US STAR
GAZING; AND WHAT DO WE THINK WE MIGHT
SEE?
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS; THE DREAMERS; AND ME.
ALL OF US, UNDER ITS SPELL.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY SCIENCE..!
HAVE YOU BEEN HALF ASLEEP; AND
HAVE YOU FELT NOISES?
I'VE FELT THEM SCREAMING MY NAME.
IS THIS, THE ENERGY, THAT CALLS THE
YOUNG SAILORS?
THE NOISE MIGHT BE ONE AND THE SAME.
I'VE FELT IT TOO MANY TIMES TO IGNORE IT.
IT'S SOMETHING, THAT I'M S'POSED TO BE.
SOMEDAY WE'LL FIND IT.
THE RAINBOW CONNECTION.
THE LOVERS, THE DREAMERS, AND ME.
LAAA, DA DA, DEEE, DA DA DOO, BA DAAA,
DA DA, DAA DEE DA DOOOOOOOO.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 7 08:20:04 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 7 08:20:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: AUDIO FREQUENCY AND RADIO FREQUENCY.
In-Reply-To: <20060130214228.27374.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060207152004.55557.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
NEW WEBLINK:
http://www.ieee-uffc.org/freqcontrol/tutorials/vig/vig_tutorial1_files/frame.htm#slide0107.htm
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > There are some means by which sound can be modulated
> > into the brain via RF.
>
> AUDIO FREQUENCY IS ALSO RADIO FREQUENCY..!
No, it is not. Radio is not audio. Radio carries audio. The words
are used very differently.
LIKE MY ELECTRONICS PROFESSOR SAID MANY TIMES -
"SAME BUT DIFFERENT".
AUDIO FREQUENCIES ARE RADIO FREQUECIES; BUT
HIGHER FREQUENCIES ARE NOT AUDIO FREQUENCIES..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 7 08:20:15 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 7 08:20:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: AUDIO FREQUENCY AND RADIO FREQUENCY.
In-Reply-To: <20060130214228.27374.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060207152015.68217.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
NEW WEBLINK:
http://www.ieee-uffc.org/freqcontrol/tutorials/vig/vig_tutorial1_files/frame.htm#slide0107.htm
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > There are some means by which sound can be modulated
> > into the brain via RF.
>
> AUDIO FREQUENCY IS ALSO RADIO FREQUENCY..!
No, it is not. Radio is not audio. Radio carries audio. The words
are used very differently.
LIKE MY ELECTRONICS PROFESSOR SAID MANY TIMES -
"SAME BUT DIFFERENT".
AUDIO FREQUENCIES ARE RADIO FREQUECIES; BUT
HIGHER FREQUENCIES ARE NOT AUDIO FREQUENCIES..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 11:02:04 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 11:02:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS IT POSSIBLE..?
Message-ID: <20060208180204.85389.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
IS IT POSSIBLE TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF
TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND THE ECONOMY OF THE
ENTIRE UNITED STATES, WITHOUT CAUSING
[UN]CIVIL WAR..?
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR AMERICA TO MAKE A
NATIONWIDE EMERGENCY SHIFT, TO PLATINUM
BACKED CURRENCY..?
AND IS IT POSSIBLE FOR PLANET EARTH TO ALSO
MAKE AN EMERGENCY SHIFT, TO PLATINUM
BACKED CURRENCY EQUALLY..?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 11:42:20 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 11:42:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CONNECTING DOTS..!
Message-ID: <20060208184220.18759.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
WITHOUT THROWING ANY HARSH-ANGRY
WORDS, I'LL LET EVERYONE ELSE OUT
THERE CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN
THE KAISER-FRANCIS OIL COMPANY,
AND THE TULSA ENVIRON-MENTAL HEALTH
ASSOCIATION..!
http://www.hoovers.com/Kaiser-francis/--ID__108471--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml?cm_ven=PAID&cm_cat=INK&cm_pla=CO1&cm_ite=Kaiser-francis
http://www.mhat.org
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 8 11:47:04 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 8 11:47:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS IT POSSIBLE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060208180204.85389.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 08, 2006 10:02:04 AM
Message-ID: <20060208184704.41761.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IS IT POSSIBLE TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF
> TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND THE ECONOMY OF THE
> ENTIRE UNITED STATES, WITHOUT CAUSING
> [UN]CIVIL WAR..?
Previously answered. But civil war??? Come on now, that would be
harder than stimulating the economy!
> IS IT POSSIBLE FOR AMERICA TO MAKE A
> NATIONWIDE EMERGENCY SHIFT, TO PLATINUM
> BACKED CURRENCY..?
No reason why it should! We got off the gold standard long ago
because it was not considered appropriate in an era where we are defined
more by our trading partners than our gold reserves.
Radically changing this would cause huge disconnects not just in
the USA, but all across the world.
> AND IS IT POSSIBLE FOR PLANET EARTH TO ALSO
> MAKE AN EMERGENCY SHIFT, TO PLATINUM
> BACKED CURRENCY EQUALLY..?
Very. Very hard sell. No reason to. And no government is going to
willingly give up it's ability to manipulate it's own economy.
One would likely do better basig the world's economy on oil than
gold. And even that would be impossible to sell to anyone but the
Nigerians. (Who will promptly turn it into a new form of fraud.)
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 11:56:39 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 11:56:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEALTHCARE: JUSTICE AND EQUALITY FOR ALL..!
Message-ID: <20060208185640.71708.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
EVERYONE: KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE DESERVE
JUSTICE AND HEALTHCARE WITH ABSOLUTE
EQUALITY..!
NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID..!
CLYDE LOFTON JR.
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 11:59:16 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 11:59:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS, AND AMERICANS:
Message-ID: <20060208185916.24418.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS,
AND AMERICANS:
WE THE PEOPLE, OF TULSA COUNTY
OKLAHOMA, AND OF ALL OF THE
SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, AND OF
ALL AMERICAN STATES; AS ALL
AMERICANS TOGETHER, HAVE GOT
TO START KEEPING ABSOLUTE TABS
ON THE CONTENT OF OUR TAP
WATER SUPPLIES - HOLDING
THOSE WHO WE PUT IN CHARGE OF
THE CARE AND OF THE DISTRIBUTION
OF OUR TAP WATER SUPPLIES, TO
THE MOST ABSOLUTE HIGHEST
ACCOUNTABILITY THAT IS POSSIBLE..!
EACH AND EVERY GOVERNING
OFFICIAL OF OURS IS HELD EQUALLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROCESS OF
SIMPLIFICATION - FOR THE PROCESS
OF MAKING KNOWN - THE DAILY,
WEEKLY, MONTHLY, AND ANNUAL
INTEGRITY OF OUR MUNICIPAL WATER
SUPPLIES - FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A PERMANENT HIGH INTEGRITY
HIGH QUALITY WATER STANDARD,
FOR EVERYONE OF ALL OF US -
EQUALLY..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:00:36 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:00:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..!
In-Reply-To: <20060124072844.30492.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060208190036.54831.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..!
IF YOU PILE IT UP; IT STINKS..!
BUT IF YOU SPREAD IT AROUND;
IT GROWS THINGS..!
ANONYMOUS
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:02:05 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:02:10 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEWHERE OUT THERE;
BY: JAMES INGRAM AND LINDA RONSTADT.
Message-ID: <20060208190205.92833.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE; BY: JAMES INGRAM AND LINDA RONSTADT:
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
BENEATH THE PALE MOONLIGHT.
SOMEONE'S THINKIN' OF ME.
AND LOVING ME TONIGHT.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
SOMEONE'S SAYING A PRAYER.
THAT WE'LL FIND ONE ANOTHER.
IN THAT BIG SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW HOW
VERY FAR APART WE ARE.
IT HELPS TO THINK WE MIGHT BE
WISHIN' ON THE SAME BRIGHT STAR.
AND WHEN THE NIGHT WIND STARTS TO
SING A LONESOME LULLABY.
IT HELPS TO THINK WE'RE SLEEPING
UNDERNEATH THE SAME BIG SKY.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
IF LOVE CAN SEE US THROUGH.
THEN WE'LL BE TOGETHER.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
OUT WHERE DREAMS COME TRUE.
AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW HOW VERY
FAR APART WE ARE.
IT HELPS TO THINK WE MIGHT BE WISHIN'
ON THE SAME BRIGHT STAR.
AND WHEN THE NIGHT WIND STARTS TO
SING A LONESOME LULLABY.
IT HELPS TO THINK WE'RE SLEEPING
UNDERNEATH THE SAME BIG SKY.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
IF LOVE CAN SEE US THROUGH
(LOVE CAN SEE US THROUGH.)
THEN WE'LL BE TOGETHER.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
OUT WHERE DREAMS COME TRUE.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:07:38 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:07:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..!
In-Reply-To: <20060120042545.66023.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060208190738.50186.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
NEED:
SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:10:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM
Message-ID: <20060208191032.96205.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.geocaching.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:32:03 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:32:08 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY HEART IS BLEEDING.
Message-ID: <20060208193203.70894.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
MY HEART IS BLEEDING RIGHT NOW.
AT LEAST THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT FEELS.
I'M HAVING TO BE ULTRA ULTRA CONSEVATIVE
WITH THE DRUG: CLONAZEPAM, BECAUSE
MY FRIEND WHO SUGGESTED THAT I
TRY IT, DIED FROM THE COMBINATION
OF ABUSE OF CLONAZEPAM, AND
FROM THE OVERWHELMING STRESS IN
LIFE; THE SAME OVERWHELMING
STRESS THAT I FEEL IN MY LIFE..!
MY FRIEND DIED A YEAR AGO, LAST
THURSDAY / FRIDAY ON JANUARY THE
13TH; WHICH JUST SO HAPPENED TO
BE FRIDAY THE 13TH THIS YEAR (CALENDAR).
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:32:23 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:32:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
Message-ID: <20060208193223.75217.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
CREATED, AND MASS SCALE PRINTED..?
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:32:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EVERLASTING HARMONY: FOREVER..!
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EVERLASTING HARMONY: FOREVER..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 12:33:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORAL, IMMORAL, AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
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MORAL, IMMORAL, AND TECHNICAL HELL:
AMERICA HAS GONE TO MORAL, IMMORAL,
AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 8 13:25:59 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 8 13:26:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORAL, IMMORAL, AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
In-Reply-To: <20060208193303.75478.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 08, 2006 11:33:02 AM
Message-ID: <20060208202559.28127.qmail@mall-net.com>
> MORAL, IMMORAL, AND TECHNICAL HELL:
>
> AMERICA HAS GONE TO MORAL, IMMORAL,
> AND TECHNICAL HELL..!
Not that most people can tell.
I suppose someone from the first century might be totally confused
at all the change and be unable to earn a living as a clay pot maker;
but we see to be handling it rather well.
As for morality, that's really not changed all that much. The big
difference is that instead of living ten or twenty years beyond the
birth of their first child, most couples live another forty or fifty.
So the tendency to split isn't that much of an increase; the big change
is the means, divorce rather than death.
We can contrast this with some other countries in the old soviet
orbit, where divorce was often by murder. Either the spouse would
withhold food during illness, or denounce the person to the KGB as
deviant, and have the KGB drop them in the river or run them over with a
truck. I heard this from a couple of sources, and my ex wanted to
denounce me to the FBI for deviant thoughts. Huh??? "Deviant thoughts!
You're not working!" Honey, there's a recession going on. "There Is No
Recession!" What do you call the IOUs the California Government is
giving people instead of a pay check?
So when she found the FBI wasn't interested in my unemployment and
my calling several dozen companies a day about work (and probably the
CIA even less so), she decided to use the old reliable method of divorce
and inheritance, and tried to kill me a few times. Sometimes it's nice
to have an incompetent wife...
Now, would you rather live in Iran or some African nation? Civil
wars, riots, military force arresting people for speaking out, madmen
upset over some caricatures printed in another country???
I think we're doing rather well here in the good old USA.
Sure, we could improve. First, we need an Iayola to ban all forms
or rap, rock and roll, hip hop, and other mind polluting trash music.
Now that, I'd favor! I don't know how many other people would...
Next, ban all movies glorifying crime, sex, and violence. But...
well, quite a few classical movies would have to go. Then where would
the interest in going to the movies be? And what about the Indianapolis
500? Plenty of violent auto crashes and sexy babes there.
Then we reinstate laws that say a person can shoot his or her
spouse if caught having sex with another person. That would probably
take out some 10% of our population, if that. Reduce VD a lot too.
But the loss would wipe out some portion of our most creative,
exploratory type people. Wouldn't have had the Kennedy's in politics if
with that. Wipe out some British Royalty, too; if it really caught on.
Indeed, if that had been the rule long ago, we wouldn't have had that
alcoholic Brit, Churchill, to hold off that other bastard, Hitler. Or
FDR, for that matter. (Not that I advocate promiscuity, mind you! But
sometimes, the basic traits cross boundaries.)
We could also allow the shooting of homosexuals. Two guys holding
hands? Kapow! Two gals holding hands? Kapow!
But... how do you know it's not a guy and his teenage son or a
mother and her teenage daughter? I've been mistaken for my father's
brother a couple of times. Oops, I'm dead!
Shoot the homeless? Hmmm... I think it was national pollster George
Gallop, not a poor man by any means, who found his credit card had
expired, and ended up sleeping on a bench in Chicago's O'Hare airport
one night. He said he didn't feel like begging for a dime to make a
phone call. So he slept on a bench. My parents too, slept on benches
in WW-II Germany. I've slept in my car a number of times while on
trips. Shoot the homeless? I think we'd lose too many people, people
who contributed to our society, and might contribute again. No to
mention scaring the wits out of a lot of people.
As to various proposals for flat taxes, abolishing credit card
debt, etc. Those would create an environment of economic fear, slowing
our economy and causing a lot of joblessness. An that would create a
lot more economic turmoil, marital infidelity, immorality, homelessness,
etc.
So, I don't think we are doing all that badly. Especially since
joblessness has sunk to less than 5% these days. Ok, sure, the
statistics are bogus; but it means that fewer than 5% of the people have
lost work in the past several months. That's not that bad!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 8 14:51:12 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 8 14:51:18 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..!
In-Reply-To: <20060208190738.50186.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 08, 2006 11:07:38 AM
Message-ID: <20060208215112.95926.qmail@mall-net.com>
> NEED:
>
> SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..!
>
> CLYDE
All can be had via prescription if you have real medical need. But
morphine isn't going to help you with psychological pain that much.
Clyde, I've lost a few good friends. Really good friends. Linda
died over ten years ago. She and I cared about each other like long lost
brother and sister since we met at the University. It really hurt.
Just thinking about her moistens my eyes. She was one of the four
brightest people I've ever met. (Though patience wasn't her greatest
virtue...)
Another great guy was Mark. http://www.mall-net.com/woodward/ We
were about to launch a fantastic internet project that would have made
us a few million. Poof! The future sliding like a huge piece of a
glacier into the sea, nothing but broken ice where a fortune once
stood. I'd not have ended up on this mountain if he'd not died.
My Grandfather. Wisest man I knew. Patient, too. Gone.
The fathers of two close friends of mine. Wonderful wise and
patient people I loved talking with. Gone. These guys taught me
patience, showed me very different models of life than my own
father.
And my own father isn't likely to last much longer. We see the
signs. We know it's only a matter of months, maybe a year or two if we
are very, very lucky.
Life goes on. Say thankyou, tell your friends and relative how
much they mean to you. Because some day, they won't be there to hear
you.
But YOU have to go on. You have to look to the future, DO things
to improve the future before you get there.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 15:46:31 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 15:46:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] DOWNTOWN.
Message-ID: <20060208224632.91333.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
IT SEEMS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE TULSA
PRISON WANT TO SHARE THEIR LOVE WITH
GEORGE [THE] KAISER, AND WITH VERY VERY
MANY OF HIS CRONIES AS WELL..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 15:53:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNITED WE THE PEOPLE STAND..!
Message-ID: <20060208225343.38623.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
UNITED WE THE PEOPLE STAND..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 16:55:33 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 16:55:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Brain Explorers Digest Number 520
In-Reply-To: <1139331228.212.60754.m19@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060208235533.65294.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
AMERICA HAS BECOME A NATION OF PHARMACOLOGY
SCREWED INSOMNIACS..!
WE'VE ALL GOTTA SLOW DOWN..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 19:37:47 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 8 19:38:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE; TULSA;
AND SOME TULSA HISTORY.
Message-ID: <20060209023747.22855.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
HISTORY OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE: TULSA OKLAHOMA:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=41d53665-e762-4970-b442-e3b2f6ceaffa
DOWNTOWN, AND THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa,_Oklahoma#Downtown
DOWNTOWN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa,_Oklahoma#Blue_Dome_District
TULSA OKLAHOMA HISTORY:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Tulsa
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 09:34:42 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 9 09:34:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN HEAVEN ARE MADE
OF GOLD..?
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WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN HEAVEN ARE MADE OF GOLD..?
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 10:42:12 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 9 10:42:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN HEAVEN
ARE MADE OF GOLD..?
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[REVISED:]
WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN HEAVEN ARE MADE
OF GOLD..?
POLISHED PLATINUM IS REFLECTIVE OF ALL COLORS IN
THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM..!
PLATINUM IS ALSO A MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL METAL TOO..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 9 13:38:17 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 9 13:38:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN
HEAVEN
In-Reply-To: <20060209174212.20435.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 09, 2006 09:42:12 AM
Message-ID: <20060209203817.59245.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHOEVER SAID THAT THE STREETS IN HEAVEN ARE MADE
> OF GOLD..?
>
> POLISHED PLATINUM IS REFLECTIVE OF ALL COLORS IN
> THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM..!
>
> PLATINUM IS ALSO A MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL METAL TOO..!
Many of our human customs arose in pre-history. Things developed
value in accordance to how they could be used in day to day survival
first, taking on extended value only later as civilizations arose.
For something to be used as a medium of exchange, a fair quantity
of it must exist, and it has to have multiple uses. Gold, Silver, and
Copper fill that bill, being widely scattered about the world, and thus
having been used to make things since pre-history.
Early tribes did not have huge furnaces to refine or cast things.
So the metal had to be found pure, and had to be malleable -- able to be
pounded into shape. Copper, followed by silver, and gold fit that need.
As tribes became larger, they started to mine these metals from
the earth. Some of the early mines were at Ruda Glava (Red Head in the
early tongue, though more properly written Ruda Galva, not glava), where
humans dug hundreds of feet into the earth for copper, smelting the ore
in fires to gain pure copper.
Copper was IT! Used for pots, drinking vessels, and the first real
swords, copper was our first and foremost metal. As for kings and war
lords, gold and silver were used partly for their luster, partly for
their rarity, partly because silver tarnished in the presence of sulfur,
a common poison and natural toxin from spoilage.
Somewhat later, Bronze was invented, obsoleting the softer copper
for many uses.
Platinum, on the other hand, is rare, not having been discovered
till the 1700's in South America. this is long after the monetary
systems of the world were in place.
Platinum is also not a very useful metal when compared to copper,
silver, and gold.
Copper has it over the others as wire. Our entire civilization
runs on copper, from the power lines, to the motors of this world, and
printed circuit boards found in nearly every appliance and computer; and
till recently, the entire telephony system was copper based. Copper
was it, and still is it as far as civilization is concerned.
Silver comes next, or did. A third of the silver minded went into
photography, helping us preserve and spread our knowledge and culture
via pictures. Although better than copper for wiring, it was too rare.
(Though the Manhattan project, being unable to find adequate copper for
various major works, borrowed several tons of silver from the US
Treasury to be made into wire.)
Gold was even rarer; but well distributed across the world, hence
available as trade medium. It also does not tarnish as does silver and
copper. Malleability, the ability to beat it into any shape played a
large role in its use in early civilizations. An ounce of gold can be
beaten into 300 square feet of gold leaf, used to cover various statuary
and iconology of civilizations.
In contrast, Platinum is of the nickel family. It is less malleable
and ductile than copper, gold, or silver, making it harder for
primitives to use it for anything. Only later did we find that fine
powders make good catalysts, and that it is chemically far more inert
than gold. With that and the growth of technology which needed the rare
qualities of Platinum, did this formerly cheap metal become more in
demand.
So if you want a practical monetary standard, I'd say the common
copper penny is it. But ultimately, the value of any nation is based
not upon its mineral wealth; but upon the intelligence and imagination
of it's citizens. So I would say that education has far, far more value
than any inert mineral.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 17:19:45 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 9 17:20:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: [exopolitics] Nexus Article on Space Weapons
and ET Civilizations.
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060210001945.8233.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
TO ALL MAD SCIENTISTS, AND TO OTHER FOLKS;
I WAS JUST LISTENING TO THE SONG:
GODS OF WAR, BY DEF LEPPARD,
WHEN I STARTED READING THIS
PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS SENT
TO ME EARLIER TODAY.
YOU KNOW - STAR TREK, STAR WARS,
AND STARGATE ARE ALL THREE,
VERY COOL SCIENCE FICTION VIDEO
PRODUCTIONS, AND THEY ALL THREE
LEAVE FOLKS IMAGINATIONS
SOARING WITH NEARLY LIMITLESS
POSSIBILITIES OF 'LOST' ESOTERIC
TECHNOLOGIES OF THE PAST, AND OF
ADVANCED FUTURISTIC TECHNOLOGIES
OF THE FUTURE; THOUGH WE ALL DO
HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE
ALL STILL SCIENCE FICTION, AND ARE
NOT SCIENCE REALITY.
THOUGH I AM CONVINCED THAT EVERY
MAJOR COOL SCIENCE FICTION
PRODUCTION IN EXISTANCE, DOES
HOLD A LITTLE BIT OF SCIENTIFIC
REALITY WITHIN EACH PRODUCTION;
THEY ARE STILL Science FICTION..!
CLYDE LOFTON
My Groups | exopolitics Main Page ***
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: USING SPACE WEAPONS AGAINST EXTRATERRESTRIAL
CIVILIZATIONS
Contact: Angelika Whitecliff. communications@exopoliticsinstitute.org
. Ph: 808 323 3400
[Feb 9, 2006, Kealakekua, Hawaii] Are space weapons being developed
for possible use against what the U.S. military secretly views as an
`extraterrestrial enemy'? According to a former university professor
who taught international politics at two prestigious American
universities in Washington D.C, this indeed is happening. In an
article just released in a popular international journal, Nexus
Magazine, Dr Michael Salla, analyses the development of space weapon
policies in a number of U.S Presidential administrations. He describes
how extraterrestrials have been depicted as `the enemy' according to a
number of highly credentialed sources. Dr Salla examines the
contrasting positions taken by an ex-Canadian Defense Minister and a
former U.S. military intelligence officer, Lt Col. Philip Corso, on
the desirability of using space weapons against extraterrestrial
civilizations. Dr Salla argues that Corso depicted extraterrestrials
as `the enemy'; a view that Corso contended has strong support within
the military and political establishment in `the loop' about visiting
extraterrestrial civilizations. This contrasts with Paul Hellyer, who
while Canada's Minister for defense took a position of opposition to
Canada's possible cooperation in the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty
supported by the Johnson administration. Hellyer has recently emerged
to publicly declare that the possible targeting of extraterrestrials
by space weapons is among the "profoundly important policy questions
that must be addressed."
Dr Salla's article appears in the Feb-March 2006 edition of Nexus
Magazine (vol 13:2) www.nexusmagazine.com and a pre-publication
version is available online at:
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-10-Nexus.pdf
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 9 17:34:35 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 9 17:34:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: [exopolitics] Nexus Article on Space Weapons
In-Reply-To: <20060210001945.8233.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 09, 2006 04:19:45 PM
Message-ID: <20060210003435.94868.qmail@mall-net.com>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: USING SPACE WEAPONS AGAINST EXTRATERRESTRIAL
> CIVILIZATIONS
> Contact: Angelika Whitecliff. communications@exopoliticsinstitute.org
> [Feb 9, 2006, Kealakekua, Hawaii] Are space weapons being developed
> for possible use against what the U.S. military secretly views as an
> `extraterrestrial enemy'? According to a former university professor
> who taught international politics at two prestigious American
The losers prepare to fight the last war again using proven old
methods and weapons. The winners prepare to fight the next war using
new weapons, new technology, new strategies.
As Montezuma quite aptly illustrated, assuming visitors as friendly
isn't the best policy. Pizarro wiped him out with an Amazingly small
contingent of Conquistadores!
I'd like Democracy to be on the winning side... Sure, diplomacy
first; but before you send those diplomats out, make sure there are some
really strong teeth backing our diplomats up! Give the other side
REASON to be reasonable.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 9 17:42:24 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 9 17:42:27 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: [exopolitics] Nexus Article on Space Weapons
In-Reply-To: <20060210003435.94868.qmail@mall-net.com> from
"javilk@mall-net.com" at Feb 10, 2006 12:34:35 AM
Message-ID: <20060210004224.99288.qmail@mall-net.com>
> As Montezuma quite aptly illustrated, assuming visitors as friendly
> isn't the best policy. Pizarro wiped him out with an Amazingly small
> contingent of Conquistadores!
Sorry, It was Cortez who took Montezuma and the Aztec empire.
Pizarro took the Incas.
They both portrayed themselves as peaceful, till it was too late for
their opponents to recoup.
People seemed less civili in those days...
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 18:48:31 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 9 18:48:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I DON'T KNOW.
Message-ID: <20060210014831.59130.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
I DON'T KNOW; BY: OZZY OSBOURNE, BOB DAISLEY,
AND RANDY RHOADS:
PEOPLE LOOK TO ME AND SAY;
IS THE END NEAR?
WHEN IS THE FINAL DAY?
WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF MANKIND?
HOW DO I KNOW?
I GOT LEFT BEHIND.
EVERYONE GOES THROUGH CHANGES,
LOOKING TO FIND THE TRUTH.
DON'T LOOK AT ME FOR ANSWERS.
DON'T ASK ME.
I DON'T KNOW.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW, HIDDEN
MEANINGS THAT WILL NEVER SHOW?
FOOLS AND PROPHETS FROM THE PAST.
LIFE'S A STAGE, AND WE'RE ALL IN THE CAST.
YOU GOTTA BELIEVE IN SOMEONE.
ASKING ME WHO IS RIGHT.
ASKING ME WHO TO FOLLOW.
DON'T ASK ME.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
NOBODY EVER TOLD ME.
I FOUND OUT FOR MYSELF.
YOU GOTTA BELIEVE IN FOOLISH MIRACLES.
IT'S NOT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME.
IT'S IF YOU WIN OR LOSE.
YOU CAN CHOOSE.
DON'T CONFUSE.
WIN OR LOSE.
IT'S UP TO YOU.
IT'S UP TO YOU.
IT'S UP TO YOU.
IT'S UP TO YOU.
GO. GO. GO.
PEOPLE LOOK TO ME AND SAY;
IS THE END NEAR?
WHEN IS THE FINAL DAY?
WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF MANKIND?
HOW DO I KNOW?
I GOT LEFT BEHIND.
EVERYONE GOES THROUGH CHANGES,
LOOKING TO FIND THE TRUTH.
DON'T LOOK AT ME FOR ANSWERS.
DON'T ASK ME.
I DON'T KNOW.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 19:39:56 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 9 19:40:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED FURTHER:] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
Message-ID: <20060210023956.13619.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
[REVISED FURTHER:]
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO
BE CREATED, AND MASS SCALE PRINTED AND
DISTRIBUTED..?
CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 9 20:03:53 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 9 20:03:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED FURTHER:] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060210023956.13619.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 09, 2006 06:39:56 PM
Message-ID: <20060210030353.82158.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO
> BE CREATED, AND MASS SCALE PRINTED AND
> DISTRIBUTED..?
>
> CLYDE LOFTON
> TULSA, OKLAHOMA
Wrong place to ask that question, Clyde. We are not from Tulsa.
We don't have anything to do with Tulsa. And from what we keep hearing
from you, I don't think we'd want to hold our national convention in
your city. We're afraid the residents would either turn their bulls
loose in the streets, chase us out with their pitchforks, or maybe run
after us with their pitchforks running away from their own bulls.
I'd suggest you ask the city council that one, politely suggesting
they ought to post it prominently in various public places.
Do remember the little bit about "You'll catch more flies with a
drop of honey than a gallon of gall" from Abe Lincoln.
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Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 10 04:22:54 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 04:22:59 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED FURTHER:] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060210030353.82158.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060210112254.9966.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO
> BE CREATED, AND MASS SCALE PRINTED AND
> DISTRIBUTED..?
>
> CLYDE LOFTON
> TULSA, OKLAHOMA
Wrong place to ask that question, Clyde. We are not from Tulsa.
We don't have anything to do with Tulsa. And from what we keep hearing
from you, I don't think we'd want to hold our national convention in
your city.
YEAH; TULSA WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM
TO HOLD A NATIONAL CONVENTION.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE TULSA PRISON WOULD WANT THE ASSHOLES
OF EACH AND EVERY POLITICIAN, WITH EQUALITY..!
We're afraid the residents would either turn their bulls
loose in the streets, chase us out with their pitchforks, or maybe run
after us with their pitchforks running away from their own bulls.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT TULSA JUST SEEMS PERPETUALLY SCREWED
UP.
EVERLASTING INSANITY / CHAOS AND CONFUSION, SPINNING
FOREVER AROUND AND AROUND IN CIRCLES IN INSANE VERTIGO
FOREVER.
I'M READY TO MOVE OUT; BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO MOVE
TO.
(MAYBE SEDONA ARIZONA; I DON'T KNOW)
A PLACE THAT IS FAR FAR MORE PEACEFUL AND HARMONIOUS
THAN THIS NEVERENDING OVERWORKED, OVERZONED, AND
OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, HELLHOLE, AND ITS
SURROUNDING DISTRICTS.
I WONDER IF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE - DOWNSLUM,
MIGHT ACTUALLY TRULY BE THE GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF
THE UNITED STATES, AS I READ IN ONE OF THE LINKS THAT I
POSTED..?
THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS STRANGE, AND CAUSES ME
TO WONDER IF IT COULD BE A SITE WHERE AN ANCIENT OLD
TIME OIL WELL COULD BE; OR POSSIBLY AN ANCIENT GRAVE
OR SOMETHING.
THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS, AS I READ, A GEOCACHING
SPOT, ON THE G.P.S. GRID.
I'd suggest you ask the city council that one, politely suggesting
they ought to post it prominently in various public places.
OK; VERY VERY MANY FOLKS ARE ANGRY; AND I AM ANGRY
AT THE NEVERENDING SCREWED UP POLITICS OF THIS
INSANE WASTELAND.
Do remember the little bit about "You'll catch more flies with a
drop of honey than a gallon of gall" from Abe Lincoln.
OK.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 10 05:06:39 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 05:06:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20060210120639.34920.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
ARTIFICAL CLOUD, AND BEHIND IT; THE WORLD
CESSPOOL TRADE CENTER TOWER:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
CENTER OF THE CESSPOOL:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=fa5317f7-2ce8-4e80-b4d0-b360f8fda826&IID=5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 10 05:37:07 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 05:37:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] (no subject).
In-Reply-To: <20060210120639.34920.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060210123707.99683.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
[REVISED:]
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD SCULPTURE, AND BEHIND IT; THE
WORLD CESSPOOL TRADE CENTER TOWER:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
CENTER OF THE CESSPOOL:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=fa5317f7-2ce8-4e80-b4d0-b360f8fda826&IID=5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 07:31:35 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] METROID, AND JUSTICE LEAGUE....
Message-ID: <20060210143129.73292.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
1. http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/smart_ship.jpg
2. http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/smart_brain01.jpg
3. http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/smart_metroid.jpg
4. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Justiceleagueunlimited.jpg
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 10 15:41:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 10 15:41:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [DEDICATED TO BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO HAVE
BEEN, AND WHO ARE, MARRIED FOR LIFE..!] CAUGHT IN A DREAM;
BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20060210224134.55437.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
[THIS ALTERNATIVE VERSION FROM THE ORIGINAL
LYRICS, GOES OUT IN ABSOLUTE DEDICATION TO
BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO LIVE IN
BARTLESVILLE OKLAHOMA, WHO HAVE BEEN,
AND WHO ARE, MARRIED FOR LIFE..!]
CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND):
OH YEAH YEAH.
NAH NAH NAH.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE
WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS.
THESE ARE THOUGHTS ALL THROUGH
MY BRAIN; THAT I DAYDREAM EVERYDAY.
I'M ALIVE AND WELL; RIGHT NOW, I'M
ALIVE; I'M FEELING; WELL, IT'S MY LIFE
TO LIVE MY WAY; SO I'LL KEEP
DAYDREAMIN' AWAY.
WHO KNOWS; MAYBE SOMEDAY, IT WILL
ALL CUM TRUE; AND I WILL GET MY
WAY; AND WE WILL LIVE AS ONE..!
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA
WISH FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY,
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY.
IT'S MY, DREAM.
AH, WHAT CANNOT WILL BE DONE; FOR
EVERY LIVIN' THING UNDER THE SUN.
FORGET COLOR; FORGET RACE; AND
JUST BE ONE BIG HAPPY FACE; AMONG
THIS SEA OF PEOPLE; LIVE AMONG GOD'S
CREATURES, SHARIN' LOVE; THAT WAS SENT
DOWN FROM ABOVE; HERE TO SHARE
WITH ONE ANOTHER; FATHER, BROTHER,
SISTER, MOTHER; EVERYBODY; SHARIN'
LOVE; SHARIN' LOVE.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH
FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO
WAY; THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY;
IT'S MY DREAM; THIS IS MY DREAM.
I CLOSE MY EYES; AND EVERYTHING WILL
BE ALRIGHT.
HERE IN MY FANTASY; LIVIN' IN HARMONY.
MAKE MY DREAM CUM ALIVE..!
OH YEAH..!
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH
FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY;
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY;
IT'S MY DREAM.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA
WISH FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY;
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS; SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE; I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A
THING; NO WAY; IT'S MY DREAM.
NOW, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE
WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS.
TAKE AWAY THE PAIN AND HURT; MAKE LIKE
HEAVEN HERE ON EARTH; WITHOUT REASON
TO DIE; AND GIVEN EVERLASTING LIFE TO ALL.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 10 15:55:39 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Feb 10 15:56:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [DEDICATED TO BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO HAVE
In-Reply-To: <20060210224134.55437.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 10, 2006 02:41:34 PM
Message-ID: <20060210225539.45064.qmail@mall-net.com>
> [THIS ALTERNATIVE VERSION FROM THE ORIGINAL
> LYRICS, GOES OUT IN ABSOLUTE DEDICATION TO
> BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO LIVE IN
> BARTLESVILLE OKLAHOMA, WHO HAVE BEEN,
> AND WHO ARE, MARRIED FOR LIFE..!]
Clyde, instead of thinking with lyrics, try to express your own
thoughts. Lyrics are made for show, for rhyme, not as a reflection upon
reality. Letting lyrics think for you, or even just echo in your head,
deprives you of your own thoughts, of your own reflections upon what is
real. And that, more than anything else, keeps you from changing reality
to suit YOU.
Changing reality is hard work. It requires good observation,
imagination to see what could be, daydreaming to see how you can get
from here to there, or where you can get, and a lot of real thought as
to the details of how to do it. Then comes the work of actually doing
it. And afterward, the deep and lasting satisfaction that you made a
difference.
If you don't take back your mind from lyrics... how can you be a
scientist, mad or otherwise?
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 11 04:05:36 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 04:05:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: DEDICATED TO ALL GRANDPARENTS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060210225539.45064.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060211110536.31436.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Try to express your own thoughts.
THE SONG IS DEDICATED TO ALL GRANDPARENTS..!
ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
DEDICATED TO ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE THAT LASTS
FOR LIFETIME..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY FATHER..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY AUNT..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
GRANDMOTHER TO MY BROTHERS..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
GRANDMOTHER TO MYSELF..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY COUSINS..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
GRANDMOTHER TO MY COUSINS..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR EVERYONE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SEE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SHARE..!
LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SHARE..!
LOVE FOR MY GRANDMOTHER SHOWING THE ENTIRE WORLD
THAT ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE STILL EXISTS..!
TO SHOW THE ENTIRE WORLD - THE ABSOLUTE STRENGTH
OF GRAVITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH STRONGER THAN THAT OF
THE STRENGTH OF THE CARBON WITHIN DIAMONDS..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY FOR LIFETIME..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY FOR INFINITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY FOR ETERNITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY FOR EVER..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT GRAVITY FOR UNITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE FOR LIFETIME..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE FOR INFINITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE FOR ETERNITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE FOR EVER..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE FOR UNITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY FOR LIFETIME..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY FOR INFINITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY FOR ETERNITY..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY FOR EVER..!
ABSOLUTE PERFECT STRENGTH HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IN
ABSOLUTE PERFECT HARMONY FOR UNITY..!
1. FOR LIFETIME..!
2. FOR INFINITY..!
3. FOR ETERNITY..!
4. FOR EVER..!
5. FOR UNITY..!
1. ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE LASTING FOR LIFETIME..!
2. ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE LASTING FOR INFINITY..!
3. ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE LASTING FOR ETERNITY..!
4. ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE LASTING FOR EVER..!
5. ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE LASTING FOR UNITY..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 04:15:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20060211111512.88284.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND):
OH YEAH YEAH.
NAH NAH NAH.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE
WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS.
THESE ARE THOUGHTS ALL THROUGH
MY BRAIN; THAT I DAYDREAM EVERYDAY.
I'M ALIVE AND WELL; RIGHT NOW, I'M
ALIVE; I'M FEELING; WELL, IT'S MY LIFE
TO LIVE MY WAY; SO I'LL KEEP
DAYDREAMIN' AWAY.
WHO KNOWS; MAYBE SOMEDAY, IT WILL
ALL COME TRUE; AND I WILL GET MY
WAY; AND WE WILL LIVE AS ONE..!
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA
WISH FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY,
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY.
IT'S MY, DREAM.
AH, WHAT CANNOT WILL BE DONE; FOR
EVERY LIVIN' THING UNDER THE SUN.
FORGET COLOR; FORGET RACE; AND
JUST BE ONE BIG HAPPY FACE; AMONG
THIS SEA OF PEOPLE; LIVE AMONG GOD'S
CREATURES, SHARIN' LOVE; THAT WAS SENT
DOWN FROM ABOVE; HERE TO SHARE
WITH ONE ANOTHER; FATHER, BROTHER,
SISTER, MOTHER; EVERYBODY; SHARIN'
LOVE; SHARIN' LOVE.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH
FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO
WAY; THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY;
IT'S MY DREAM; THIS IS MY DREAM.
I CLOSE MY EYES; AND EVERYTHING WILL
BE ALRIGHT.
HERE IN MY FANTASY; LIVIN' IN HARMONY.
MAKE MY DREAM COME ALIVE..!
OH YEAH..!
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH
FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY;
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE.
I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY;
IT'S MY DREAM.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA
WISH FOR IT ALL.
NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY;
THIS IS MY DREAM NOW.
I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS; SIMPLY
IMPOSSIBLE; I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A
THING; NO WAY; IT'S MY DREAM.
NOW, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE
WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS.
TAKE AWAY THE PAIN AND HURT; MAKE LIKE
HEAVEN HERE ON EARTH; WITHOUT REASON
TO DIE; AND GIVEN EVERLASTING LIFE TO ALL.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 11 04:20:08 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 04:20:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE..?
Message-ID: <20060211112008.85844.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN TAKE THE
BARS; THE KNIVES, THE SWORDS; THE SPEARS;
THE ARROWS; THE SPIKES; THE SCISSORS; THE
SHEARS; THE BREAKS; AND ALL OTHER SHARPS
AND SHEARS OUT OF MY HEART, WITH AN OVERDOSE
OF SLEEPING GAS; AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE;
AND AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN..?
I AM CRUCIFIED DIRECTLY THROUGH MY HEART..!
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 04:50:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WEBLINKS.
Message-ID: <20060211115018.81247.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.thirdday.com/CryOutLyrics.htm
http://www.houseoflyrics.com/d/artists/the_charlie_daniels_band/songs/god_bless_the_mother.html
http://www.ram.org/contrib/warpigs.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 11 04:51:21 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 04:51:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [IN HONOR OF MY GRANDMOTHER: GENEVA LOFTON:]
DEDICATED TO ALL GRANDPARENTS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060210225539.45064.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060211115121.81603.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
[IN HONOR OF MY GRANDMOTHER: GENEVA LOFTON:]
DEDICATED TO ALL GRANDPARENTS:
THE SONG IS DEDICATED TO ALL GRANDPARENTS..!
ZERO EXCEPTIONS..!
DEDICATED TO ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE THAT LASTS
FOR LIFETIME..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY FATHER..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY AUNT..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
GRANDMOTHER TO MY BROTHERS..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
GRANDMOTHER TO MYSELF..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
MOTHER TO MY COUSINS..!
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GRANDMOTHER TO MY COUSINS..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR EVERYONE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SEE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE..!
FOR MY GRANDMOTHER BEING AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT
EXAMPLE OF LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SHARE..!
LOVE FOR ALL OF THE WORLD TO SHARE..!
LOVE FOR MY GRANDMOTHER SHOWING THE ENTIRE WORLD
THAT ABSOLUTE PERFECT LOVE STILL EXISTS..!
TO SHOW THE ENTIRE WORLD - THE ABSOLUTE STRENGTH
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 09:50:30 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE LOTUS AND THE ROSE [REVISITED]. .
Message-ID: <20060211165002.92207.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.lotusandrose.com/
http://www.lotusandrose.com/Contents.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 11 10:09:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNDER MEDIA / MILITARY HARRASSMENT..!
Message-ID: <20060211170925.28561.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
I CAN TELL THAT THERE IS B.P.L. TIMER CONTROLLING OF THE
REFRIGERATOR, AND OF THE H.V.A.C. SYSTEM GOING ON,
HERE AT BROKEN HOME.
I CAN ALSO SENSE RADAR SPY SATELLITES CONSISTENTLY
WATCHING MY EVERY ACTION, HERE AT BROKEN HOME, AND
EVERY PLACE THAT I TRAVEL TO.
I AM FINANCIALLY UNABLE; FROM THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT
FINANCIAL RESOURCES, TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION DONE,
INTO ANY AND OR ALL HIDDEN PELCO, OR OTHER BRAND OF
VARIOUSLY PLACED SPY CAMERA'S.
I CAN SENSE THAT I AM BEING AUDIO ACOUSTICALLY MONITORED,
BY WHAT EXACT WAYS AND MEANS, I DO NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN,
AND THAT MY THOUGHTS, WELL; I CAN'T PROVE A DAMNED
THING; BUT ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY, COUPLED
WITH SOME FORM OF ESOTERIC PHONETIC AND LINGUITICS
TRANSLATING TYPE OF TECHNOLOGIES; WELL THAT WOULD
BE A HIGHLY CLASSIFIED MILITARY TECHNOLOGY; THAT IS;
IF IT ISN'T TOTAL SCIENCE FICTION..!
UNDER MEDIA / MILITARY HARRASSMENT..!
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 11 12:11:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNDER MEDIA / MILITARY HARRASSMENT..!
In-Reply-To: <20060211170925.28561.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 11, 2006 09:09:25 AM
Message-ID: <20060211191118.36822.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I CAN TELL THAT THERE IS B.P.L. TIMER CONTROLLING OF THE
> REFRIGERATOR, AND OF THE H.V.A.C. SYSTEM GOING ON,
> HERE AT BROKEN HOME.
How old are these devices...? Someone sneak in and put a timer on
them? I don't think so!
You may hear these more in the silence of the night... but any
timers (and some refrigerators DO have timers so they don't defrost in
the middle of the day, and HVAC systems may have setback timers for
lower night time temperatures) are user/owner set. Your parents probably
bought a setback thermostat long ago. Now, the hot water heater, if
electric, might be remotely set, though that too, is with the owner's
permission, and for the purpose of saving electricity.
r> I CAN ALSO SENSE RADAR SPY SATELLITES CONSISTENTLY
> WATCHING MY EVERY ACTION, HERE AT BROKEN HOME, AND
> EVERY PLACE THAT I TRAVEL TO.
Some of the new cars have radar in the bumper to warn you if the car
ahead slows down. Some will apply brakes, some will not. A friend of
mine has one of these cars. Some other cars, notably the Cadillac, have
night vision gear in them to let the drivers see better at night. Saved
a few people's lives!
> I AM FINANCIALLY UNABLE; FROM THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT
> FINANCIAL RESOURCES, TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION DONE,
> INTO ANY AND OR ALL HIDDEN PELCO, OR OTHER BRAND OF
> VARIOUSLY PLACED SPY CAMERA'S.
Unlikely in the home; but security cameras have been a part of many
commercial places, both retail and manufacturing, for decades. I was
involved in allied products back in the late 70's, early 80's. We
didn't get off the ground for other reasons.
Now, none of that is connected to a central military or national
command... but some do tape the cameras and retain the tapes for a few
days to week or so.
> I CAN SENSE THAT I AM BEING AUDIO ACOUSTICALLY MONITORED,
> BY WHAT EXACT WAYS AND MEANS, I DO NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN,
> AND THAT MY THOUGHTS, WELL; I CAN'T PROVE A DAMNED
That part is pure science fiction!
> THING; BUT ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY, COUPLED
> WITH SOME FORM OF ESOTERIC PHONETIC AND LINGUITICS
> TRANSLATING TYPE OF TECHNOLOGIES; WELL THAT WOULD
> BE A HIGHLY CLASSIFIED MILITARY TECHNOLOGY; THAT IS;
> IF IT ISN'T TOTAL SCIENCE FICTION..!
Pure science fiction!!!
Now, how can you evaluate the probability of such things? How long
would it take for someone to evaluate your daily actions?
I did something like this on one project. We had a single camera
which took three pictures a minute of a farm road. Every night, it fell
to me to evaluate the pictures. Took something like 15 minutes to half
an hour to scan through them, note which ones had vehicles or people in
them, etc. That's not seeing who! Just whether something changed. If I
had to see who, etc.; it would easily take me hours! And we'd need a
dozen cameras, not just one. So half my working day would have been
spent watching the pictures; not something that I would have stood for.
Now, multiply that by how many people? You see the labor problems?
Say we monitor half the population... 8 hour shifts, maybe one guy can
monitor... four to six people. He's got to be paid well for this, or
he'll talk. So one sixth the population, about 50,000 people get paid
say $50,000 each for a total of 2.5 Billion dollars. Now, every ten of
these guys has to be supervised, and the recording equipment needs
repair. So we add another 5,000 people to that each, for another 10,000
people at say 75,000 per year. and every ten of them, another
supervisor....
See, the math shows you can't run this kind of system! The Sov's
tried this in the old ussr. They couldn't do it well, and theirs was a
military society, not one that allowed people to complain. It didn't
work! Worse, it made the people less cooperative, less willing to do
what they were told to do. Under their totalitarian monitoring system,
they could not make nor deliver enough goods to keep their country
running!
Now, I know you are saying they only monitor you. HA HA HA! You
are such a small fish that no one cares! We couldn't even keep track of
the bastards who did 911. And you expect them to be able to keep track
of You? How many people like you, Clyde??? How many people like you???
At least several hundred in Tulsa alone! Plenty far worse than you!
The homeless are far more likely to steal, to set thing on fire, etc.
And what of the drunks? What of the alcoholics working in important
places where they can screw up far, far worse than you!?
At the best, the FCC may drive by every few months to see if they
have some excess radio signal strength; but my guess is that they only
do that when someone complains, and after the first few times seeing the
levels are within compliance, they are not going to do that on every
complaint. They just don't have the money and manpower to do that.
Clyde, enjoy your life. It's a simple life with simple problems.
I know guys who wrack their brains trying to do things far more
dangerous than you. And they are good guys, merely trying to earn a
living. Guys in marketing... trying to bend the opinions of the people
to get them to buy Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola. Or the other way around.
Now those guys are dangerous! More people die driving to the store to
buy soda than bank robbers ever shot; and more money is spent on soda
than they ever stole! The FCC and FTC spends far more time analyzing
those ads than they ever spent on your case, Clyde.
The person who cares about you most, is your Mother. Be glad for
her. One of our members just lost his. He'll never be able to tell her
how much he loves her... Give her a hug, Clyde. She needs it. And so
do you. Do it while you still can... do it while you still can.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 11 12:14:07 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 11 12:14:11 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060211112008.85844.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 11, 2006 03:20:08 AM
Message-ID: <20060211191407.37974.qmail@mall-net.com>
> IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN TAKE THE
> BARS; THE KNIVES, THE SWORDS; THE SPEARS;
> THE ARROWS; THE SPIKES; THE SCISSORS; THE
> SHEARS; THE BREAKS; AND ALL OTHER SHARPS
> AND SHEARS OUT OF MY HEART, WITH AN OVERDOSE
> OF SLEEPING GAS; AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE;
> AND AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN..?
> I AM CRUCIFIED DIRECTLY THROUGH MY HEART..!
There is one such person.
There is one such operation.
It's a Hug from Mom.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Feb 11 13:10:55 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Feb 11 13:11:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FW: [teslafy] Questions? Ask "Tesla" John
Hutchison - on air:
Message-ID: <003201c62f47$44ba95a0$6401a8c0@mikey>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 11 14:14:32 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 11 14:14:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE..?
In-Reply-To: <20060211191407.37974.qmail@mall-net.com> from
"javilk@mall-net.com" at Feb 11, 2006 07:14:07 PM
Message-ID: <20060211211432.93902.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> > IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN TAKE THE
> > BARS; THE KNIVES, THE SWORDS; THE SPEARS;
> > THE ARROWS; THE SPIKES; THE SCISSORS; THE
> > SHEARS; THE BREAKS; AND ALL OTHER SHARPS
> > AND SHEARS OUT OF MY HEART, WITH AN OVERDOSE
> > OF SLEEPING GAS; AN OVERDOSE OF MORPHINE;
> > AND AN OVERDOSE OF OXYGEN..?
> > I AM CRUCIFIED DIRECTLY THROUGH MY HEART..!
>
> There is one such person.
>
> There is one such operation.
>
> It's a Hug from Mom.
And yes, even scientists, mad or otherwise, need it on occasion.
>
> -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
> CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
> Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
> My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
> I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
>
> For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
> orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
> Today's Art Photo
> Chem / Fungus allergies
> Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
> Arthritis
> Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 04:43:40 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 04:43:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
Message-ID: <20060212114340.43074.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
CREATED..? ..!
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
MASS SCALE PRINTED..? ..!
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
MASS SCALE DISTRIBUTED..? ..!
EQUAL FOR EVERYONE..!
TULSA, OKLAHOMA..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 04:43:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FW: [teslafy] Questions? Ask "Tesla" John
Hutchison - on air:
In-Reply-To: <003201c62f47$44ba95a0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Message-ID: <20060212114323.42860.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE,
THIS IS BAD ASS..!
IF I WERE ABLE TO; I WOULD
STREAMLINK THE F2F PROGRAM
ON MY L.P.F.M. STATION.
THOUGH I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY
FOR STREAMLINK SERVICE, BUT
MAYBE I WILL SOMEDAY....
CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
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5 PM - 9 PM PACIFIC
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 05:27:46 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I NOTICED LAST NIGHT....
Message-ID: <20060212122707.36035.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
I NOTICED LAST NIGHT ON THE TELEVISION TUBE
THAT THE PHARMACOLOGY COMPANIES ARE
STILL DOING THEIR CONSUMERISM COMMERCIALISM
CRAP, TO THE BRAIN DEAD MASSES OF AMERICA.
IS AMERICA GOING TO WAKE UP TO ALL OF THE
ENDLESS BROADCAST MEDIA NONSENSE THAT
THEY ARE SPOON FED, ETC..?
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 06:35:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOWNTOWN TULSA ARENA; ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY;
AND MORE TULSA HISTORY.
Message-ID: <20060212133536.16132.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
THE SUPPOSED ARENA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
ALREADY BEEN BUILT, DOWNTOWN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tulsa_Arena.jpg
INFORMATION ON ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Oral_Roberts_University
HOMAGE:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Homage
THE TULSA BLUE DOME DISTRICT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa,_Oklahoma#Blue_Dome_District
ORAL ROBERTS HISTORY:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Oral_Roberts
CHARISMATIC:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Charismatic
CHARISMATIC "AUTHORITY" :
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Charismatic_authority
SOCIOLOGY; [STUDY OF SOCIALISM]:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Sociology
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 07:19:23 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 07:19:30 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA DAVID L. MOSS "CORRECTION" CENTER /
AFFILIATED INFO / CITYPLEX TOWERS / B.O.K. WILLIAMS WORLD
TRADE TOWER.
Message-ID: <20060212141923.85076.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA DAVID L. MOSS SO-CALLED CORRECTION CENTER;
AND OTHER AFFILIATED INFORMATION:
http://www.douglashenderson.com/jail.htm
http://www.trc.eku/aca/admin/Info.asp?state=OK
http://www.correctionscorp/news_release.cfm?news_id=47
http://www.flpba.org/private/oklahoma.htm
http://www.ngway.com/?q=david-l-moss-in-tulsa
WHO IS THE TALLEST AND BIGGEST PHALLUS
IN TULSA TOWN..? :
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=122939
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 07:27:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..!
Message-ID: <20060212142704.91521.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
PRISON..!
THE WEBLINK:
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 09:11:09 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 09:11:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AGAINST THE BEAST.
Message-ID: <20060212161109.37520.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
AGAINST THE BEAST:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/bookSearch/isbnInquiry.aspr=1&isbn=1560255137
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 09:11:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HARMONY ON EARTH....
Message-ID: <20060212161132.1917.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
HARMONY ON EARTH, AS IS, IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE!
CLYDE
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WEBLINK:
JIM WALLIS:
WHY THE RIGHT GETS IT WRONG AND
THE LEFT DOESN'T GET IT:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/02/23/findrelig.DTL
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 09:39:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MIGHTY MOUSE; BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20060212163858.17311.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
SONG: MIGHTY MOUSE.
BAND: TESLA (THE BAND).
LYRICS BY: KEITH, HANNON, WHEAT, SOMMERS.
EARTH TO MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
HELP US MIGHTY MOUSE!
WE NEED YOU!
WELL, I'M JUST LIVING FOR THE DAY.
CHANCES ARE WILL NEVER CUM.
ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR A WAY.
TO DO THE THINGS THAT CAN'T BE
DONE.
WHAT MAY SEEM A WASTE OF TIME.
DESPITE OUR GOOD INTENTIONS.
BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHAT'S WRONG
OR RIGHT?
IS THERE ANY CHANCE AT ALL?
MIGHTY MOUSE, CUM DOWN AND
SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
FLASHING SIGNALS THROUGH THE
SKY, AND TO BOTH SIDES OF THE MOON.
STILL I WAIT, BUT NO REPLY.
TO INDICATE YOU'RE CUMMING SOON.
YOU MAY THINK I WASTE MY TIME.
TO RELY ON FICTION.
BUT I CAN'T WAIT TO BLOW THEIR MINDS.
WHEN YOU CUM AND SAVE US ALL.
CUM AND SAVE US ALL!
MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT!
WE'VE LOST CONTROL.
BREAK DOWN THE WALL.
CUM SAVE US ALL.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
BEFORE WE LOSE IT ALL.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
UNDERDOG.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 09:39:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SUPERMAN AND GEORGE KAISER..!
Message-ID: <20060212163909.60390.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
SUPERMEN:
http://www.eminem.com/
http://www.dre2001.com/
http://www.dr-dre.com/
GEORGE [THE] KAISER[S]:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/16/BUGCR315BT1.DTL&o=2
http://www.jumpstarttulsa.com/special_events.htm
http://www.ounceofprevention.org/downloads/publications/announceSummer2005.pdf#search='George%20Kaiser%20story%20%20Tulsa%20Oklahoma%20%20Bank%20Of%20Oklahoma.'
http://www.tulsaworld.com/twcentennialStory.asp?ID=050918_tw_tw53_75old
http://www.jumpstarttulsa.com/images/headstart%20program1.pdf#search='George%20Kaiser%20story%20%20Tulsa%20Oklahoma%20%20Bank%20Of%20Oklahoma
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R114793115
http://www.visionexploration.com/bills.htm
http://www.comminit.com/printversion.cgi?url=http://www.comminit.com/e-zines.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 10:57:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [VARIATION OF] MIGHTY MOUSE; BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20060212175727.41054.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
SONG: MIGHTY MOUSE.
BAND: TESLA (THE BAND).
LYRICS BY: KEITH, HANNON, WHEAT, SOMMERS.
EARTH TO MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
HELP US MIGHTY MOUSE!
WE NEED YOU!
WELL, I'M JUST LIVING FOR THE DAY.
CHANCES ARE WILL NEVER COME.
ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR A WAY.
TO DO THE THINGS THAT CAN'T BE
DONE.
WHAT MAY SEEM A WASTE OF TIME.
DESPITE OUR GOOD INTENTIONS.
BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHAT'S WRONG
OR RIGHT?
IS THERE ANY CHANCE AT ALL?
MIGHTY MOUSE, COME DOWN AND
SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
FLASHING SIGNALS THROUGH THE
SKY, AND TO BOTH SIDES OF THE MOON.
STILL I WAIT, BUT NO REPLY.
TO INDICATE YOU'RE COMING SOON.
YOU MAY THINK I WASTE MY TIME.
TO RELY ON FICTION.
BUT I CAN'T WAIT TO BLOW THEIR MINDS.
WHEN YOU COME AND SAVE US ALL.
COME AND SAVE US ALL!
MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT!
WE'VE LOST CONTROL.
BREAK DOWN THE WALL.
CUM SAVE US ALL.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
BEFORE WE LOSE IT ALL.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
CUM DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
UNDERDOG.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 11:04:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060212142704.91521.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
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PRISON..!
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 12:51:47 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 12:51:55 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL
PARK SERIES. [THE GREAT DIVIDE.]
Message-ID: <20060212195147.78127.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
[THE GREAT DIVIDE.]
THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL PARK SERIES:
[THE BELOW WEBLINK WILL NOT WORK, DUE TO SOME STUPID
GOD DAMNED [AND MAN DAMNED] COMPUTER BULLSHIT..!].....
http://www.orangetreeproductions.com/!otp.cgi?page=rocky-mtns.htm&cart_id=
SO HERE IS THE MAIN WEBPAGE; THE SPECIFIC CATEGORY IS:
ROCKY MOUNTAINS:
http://www.orangetreeproductions.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 13:06:29 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 13:06:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AGAINST THE BEAST / WHAT WOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU
SAY?
Message-ID: <20060212200629.75778.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
AGAINST THE BEAST:
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=1113233&cid=64664&fp=F
http://www.nationbooks.org/book.mhtml?t=nichols
WHAT WHOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU SAY ABOUT
THE BEAST? :
http://www.michaelcretu.com/biography
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 13:10:50 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 13:10:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
OF HAND..!
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BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS
GETTING TOO FAR OUT OF HAND..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 18:15:31 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 18:15:42 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL
In-Reply-To: <20060212195147.78127.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 11:51:47 AM
Message-ID: <20060213011531.96392.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL PARK SERIES:
>
> [THE BELOW WEBLINK WILL NOT WORK, DUE TO SOME STUPID
> GOD DAMNED [AND MAN DAMNED] COMPUTER BULLSHIT..!].....
>
> http://www.orangetreeproductions.com/!otp.cgi?page=rocky-mtns.htm&cart_id=
The URL is incomplete. You did not cut and paste the entire URL.
It wants what is probably some shopping cart identification, and there
may be more on another line.
Also, the use if an exclamation mark in a URL is a bit odd. Could
be a translation error on the part of some software. I have to laugh at
URLs like that, because the companies using them just don't seem to get
what improves traffic. That's part of how I make money... advising
people like that.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 18:35:52 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 18:36:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060212180446.74519.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 10:04:45 AM
Message-ID: <20060213013552.7253.qmail@mall-net.com>
> PRISON..!
>
> http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
Looks like a nice place.
There is pain, filth and ugliness everywhere. And beauty.
Clyde, the only prision you are in, is the prison your mind creates.
If you chose to be blineded to beauty, then even heaven will be a blank
walled prison to you.
Come on, get that camera, go out there and take a few photos of the
greens or other places that you see on that web site. The act of
seeking the photo, of framing and reflecting will slowly awaken your
appreciation for beauty.
My guess is that you are afraid to see beauty. Afraid that this
world can be a beautiful place. Scared witless that you might fall in
love with this world, this world which hurt you so badly when your
father died, or when something else major happened.
It's ok, Clyde. We all have scars and pain from losing friends and
relatives. I miss Linda, Mark, and others. My life would have been
very different if they had lived. And yes, it hurts! It hurts a damned
lot!
I wouldn't be in this isolated place if Mark had lived another year
or two. He was a damned good friend, and we were going to do some
interesting things that would have made us a small fortune. Maybe not
that small a fortune. But he died of a broken heart a month or two
after his mother died. I miss his quiet questions. I miss his seeming
incomprehension of the world, phrased as questions cutting to the core
of the problem. Or close enough that I could see what I'd not gotten.
(Ok, so only a few of his questions hit the spot; but those that did,
did it big time!) He had the patience to listen to me, to ask about
what he didn't understand.
You will see what your mind seeks. If you seek ugliness, you will
certainly find plenty of it.
If you seek beauty, you will find that too. In Abundance!
You just have to take that first step.
Only YOU can do it.
It's up to you.
Go get the camera. Take that first step.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 18:55:23 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 18:55:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [VARIATION OF] MIGHTY MOUSE;
BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
In-Reply-To: <20060212175727.41054.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 09:57:27 AM
Message-ID: <20060213015523.19033.qmail@mall-net.com>
> EARTH TO MIGHTY MOUSE.
> CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
> CUM IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
> HELP US MIGHTY MOUSE!
> WE NEED YOU!
Clyde, the only hero in a good life is you.
Why? because you found the power to do it yourself.
Sure, it helps if you can enlist others in your quest. But if you
don't make that first step yourself, it's not your quest!
Look at George Washington. He hired all kinds of military advisors
in the beginning. And kept loosing! Only when he threw them out,
started learning from HIS OWN MISTAKES, did he start winning. Sure he
lost some himself. But he learned from those mistakes. And in the end,
George set the stage for all of us.
When someone repeats that famous line "May the force be with you,"
Actor Harrison Ford replies "Force Yourself." YOU are the force. YOU
have to be the hero of your own life.
And when you Force Yourself, you begin to see that life is not some
heroic struggle. It's just a bunch of clutter that you can step over
one piece at a time. Rare is the life that is truly heroic, and most
of the "heroics" in life are because of stupidity.
I had high blood pressure long ago. Big hot consultant that I
was... My father struggled with high blood pressure most of his life. I
knew that it would kill me if I let it.
So I got the blood pressure cuff and started taking my blood
pressure, trying to correlate it to what I ate, what I did, etc.
What I found was that when I had a high drama day, I had high blood
pressure. Man, I felt good about the arguments I won, the things I
fixed, etc.
Then I realized that I could get ALL of that accomplished, AND MORE
if I simply planned further ahead. Not rigid plans! Flex plans. What
are the resources I need for this, what alternate resources. Who are my
allies on that point, etc.
And so, in a much lower key way, I got more done. Without the
drama. And without the high blood pressure. Not only that, but I could
laugh as I did things. I could have some fun seeing how I changed
things for the better, not just for me, but more, for my clients and the
work groups I was in. I liked my job before. Now, I loved it! It was
fun! And the creative juices were flowing.
Forget mighty mouse. You're stronger, smarter, more able. All you
have to do, is say "I will." Minimize the mole hills, an the mountains
themselves will shrink. Chuckle at the hard things, and they become
easy. Tackle the hard parts first, and the rest of the project just
falls into place.
I think it's partly because when you laugh, you breathe more, your
blood vessels relax and dilate, and your brain gets more oxygen to think
with.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 19:48:14 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 19:48:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL
In-Reply-To: <20060213011531.96392.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060213024814.71228.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL PARK SERIES:
>
> [THE BELOW WEBLINK WILL NOT WORK, DUE TO SOME STUPID
> GOD DAMNED [AND MAN DAMNED] COMPUTER BULLSHIT..!].....
>
> http://www.orangetreeproductions.com/!otp.cgi?page=rocky-mtns.htm&cart_id=
The URL is incomplete. You did not cut and paste the entire URL.
OK; I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CUT AND PASTE COMPUTER
STUFF.
THANKS THOUGH, FOR MAKING IT TO WHERE IT WORKS.
It wants what is probably some shopping cart identification, and there
may be more on another line.
OK; WHATEVER THAT MEANS..?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 20:18:52 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 20:18:57 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE SOUNDS OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: THE NATIONAL
In-Reply-To: <20060213024814.71228.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 06:48:14 PM
Message-ID: <20060213031852.77460.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > [THE BELOW WEBLINK WILL NOT WORK, DUE TO SOME STUPID
> > GOD DAMNED [AND MAN DAMNED] COMPUTER BULLSHIT..!].....
> >
> > http://www.orangetreeproductions.com/!otp.cgi?page=rocky-mtns.htm&cart_id=
>
> The URL is incomplete. You did not cut and paste the entire URL.
>
> OK; I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CUT AND PASTE COMPUTER
> STUFF.
It's just taking care to look to see if you have everything. some
dumb programs wrap lines without regard for where. Other dumb people
create URLs that are too long. When the two interact, you get a mess
that does not bring them as much money as it could.
> It wants what is probably some shopping cart identification, and there
> may be more on another line.
>
> OK; WHATEVER THAT MEANS..?
> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
When you buy things in a store, you usually use a shopping cart. So
when you buy things online, they often call the system of holding the
tokens representing the purchases you want to make, a shopping cart.
I designed and built a few web shopping carts long ago. Fortunately,
they have all been replaced with things that are more modern, user
friendly, etc. In other words, we've learned to do better.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 12 20:44:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 20:44:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213013552.7253.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060213034428.25600.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> PRISON..!
>
> http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
Looks like a nice place.
THE EXACT OPPOSITE..!
THERE IS A SONG CALLED TULSA TIME..!
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SONG BEFORE?
There is pain, filth and ugliness everywhere.
IN TULSA..!
And beauty.
VERY LITTLE REMAINING, HERE IN SLUMTOWN.
TULSA IS MOSTLY A RUNDOWN PRISON OF UGLY CONCRETE AND
STEEL; OVERWORKED, OVERZONED, AND OVERTAXED, ALL
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
Clyde, the only prision you are in, is the prison your mind creates.
If you choose to be blinded to beauty, then even heaven will be a blank
walled prison to you.
NO; I SEE BEAUTY IN THINGS.
MONEY THOUGH, IS A NEARLY FOREVER
OBSTACLE; PREVENTING ME FROM CONTINUOUS
CREATIVITY.
Come on, get that camera, go out there and take a few photos of the
greens or other places
I KNOW OF ONLY A FEW THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO
PHOTOGRAPH, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUDEPIT - TULSA
OKLAHOMA.
that you see on that web site. The act of
seeking the photo, of framing and reflecting will slowly awaken your
appreciation for beauty.
My guess is that you are afraid to see beauty.
NO; I'M NOT AFRAID TO SEE BEAUTY; MONEY
JUST PREVENTS ME FROM CONTINUOUS
CREATIVITY.
Afraid that this
world can be a beautiful place. Scared witless that you might fall in
love with this world, this world which hurt you so badly when your
father died, or when something else major happened.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH LOVE REMAINING IN MY BROKEN HEART.
WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT MANY AND MOST TIMES,
WHEN RESISTANCE TO FORWARD MOTION - (PROGRESS) IN TULSA
OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN NEARLY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE?
TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN A PLACE OF NEARLY
ABSOLUTE INEQUALITY, UNFAIRNESS, AND ANTI FORWARD
PROGRESS FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE THAT I KNOW.
It's ok, Clyde. We all have scars and pain from losing friends and
relatives.
MY LIFE HAS BEEN TORN TO NEARLY INFINITE PIECES.
CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:18:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
OF HAND..!
In-Reply-To: <20060212201050.28957.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
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SOMETHING THAT I CONTEMPLATED, IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF SOME FORM OF REMOTE
CONTROLLED SEIZURE INDUCING TECHNOLOGIES
AFFILIATED WITH B.P.L., AND THE BROADCAST MEDIA;
WITH G.P.S. SATELLITE TRIANGULATION TECHNOLOGY
WORKING COOPERATIVELY; POSSIBLE PARTS OF
THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS
COME UNDER.
I'VE BECOME A SMALL PART OF THE TULSA
OKLAHOMA RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA, AND AM
ON THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, THOUGH
NOT WILLINGLY....
THERE ARE ALSO RADAR SATELLITES TOO; THAT ARE
PART OF THE G.P.S. SCHEME.
CLYDE
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From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:22:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Two hours wasted
Message-ID: <007301c63055$0f528ee0$6401a8c0@mikey>
It took me over two hours to get with Hutchinson on the Feet 2 Fire webcast
tonight.
And then I was ridiculed, the host telling Hutchinson that he should
exercise "free will" in not dealing with other researchers. I was played
for a fool.
This was preceded by a discussion of spirits inside vacuum tubes, as
indicated by a blue glow, and by a discussion of how the Government
Conspiracy is covering up alien tech at Area 51, and squelching Hutchinson's
work
Both the show and Hutchinson are crap, IMHO.
-MB
From mbest at triad.rr.com Sun Feb 12 21:29:27 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:29:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
OF HAND..!
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BS!
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From: clyde lofton [mailto:clydelofton@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:18 PM
To: Mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG; MBEST@TRIAD.RR.COM
Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR
OUT OF HAND..!
SOMETHING THAT I CONTEMPLATED, IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF SOME FORM OF REMOTE
CONTROLLED SEIZURE INDUCING TECHNOLOGIES
AFFILIATED WITH B.P.L., AND THE BROADCAST MEDIA;
WITH G.P.S. SATELLITE TRIANGULATION TECHNOLOGY
WORKING COOPERATIVELY; POSSIBLE PARTS OF
THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS
COME UNDER.
I'VE BECOME A SMALL PART OF THE TULSA
OKLAHOMA RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA, AND AM
ON THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, THOUGH
NOT WILLINGLY....
THERE ARE ALSO RADAR SATELLITES TOO; THAT ARE
PART OF THE G.P.S. SCHEME.
CLYDE
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From huricain at pacbell.net Sun Feb 12 21:45:56 2006
From: huricain at pacbell.net (bonusjack)
Date: Sun Feb 12 21:46:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Two hours wasted
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spirits inside vacuum tubes, that could explain the voices i here on my old fisher stereo. tuning between stations where i get white noise i can here them telling me to OD on my morphine.
Michael Best wrote: It took me over two hours to get with Hutchinson on the Feet 2 Fire webcast
tonight.
And then I was ridiculed, the host telling Hutchinson that he should
exercise "free will" in not dealing with other researchers. I was played
for a fool.
This was preceded by a discussion of spirits inside vacuum tubes, as
indicated by a blue glow, and by a discussion of how the Government
Conspiracy is covering up alien tech at Area 51, and squelching Hutchinson's
work
Both the show and Hutchinson are crap, IMHO.
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From: huricain at pacbell.net (bonusjack)
Date: Sun Feb 12 22:10:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Two hours wasted
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I'm really sorry about that post. i just lost my husband a couple months ago, h never bought any new audio video stuff. he just kept fixing anything with tubes. even our TV a Motorola set bought in 65 has tubes. old bought work like new. reading about spirits inside vacuum tubes. kinda hit a note with me as kinda a power of suggestion. and the voices i thought i heard where of Gary. the ODing on morphine i think is me telling myself that this is what Gary wants me to do so we can be together again. i don't know anymore. again sorry for the post, it wont happen again. Lissa
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 22:11:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
In-Reply-To: <20060213041801.56464.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 08:18:01 PM
Message-ID: <20060213051117.53214.qmail@mall-net.com>
> SOMETHING THAT I CONTEMPLATED, IS THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SOME FORM OF REMOTE
> CONTROLLED SEIZURE INDUCING TECHNOLOGIES
> AFFILIATED WITH B.P.L., AND THE BROADCAST MEDIA;
There are several ways of looking at this.
1. What's to gain -- how can they make money on this.
(None.)
2. What's to lose -- what if it gets found out.
(Federal case! Many laws, probably even crimes against
humanity!)
3. What scale of endeavor? How many people involved?
(Many! Too damned many to keep it quiet for long!)
> WITH G.P.S. SATELLITE TRIANGULATION TECHNOLOGY
Why GPS??? If they put it on the power lines, it's everywhere. It
turns up all over the place, with no ability to localize it. So GPS is
not useful in this scheme.
> I'VE BECOME A SMALL PART OF THE TULSA
> OKLAHOMA RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA, AND AM
So what are you broadcasting? Stuff like this? I hope not! It's
pretty paranoid and not very, um, coherent. Far too easy for someone to
make it look nutty.
> ON THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, THOUGH
> NOT WILLINGLY....
> THERE ARE ALSO RADAR SATELLITES TOO; THAT ARE
> PART OF THE G.P.S. SCHEME.
The radar satellites are used to measure the height of the sea.
Some may on occasion be used to measure the height of mountains and
other landmarks, but so what?
I studied Aerial Photographic Interpretation in college long ago.
it takes a lot of skill, meaning few people have that kind of skill, to
make sense of what's there.
The manpower required to track an individual... Forget it!
Radar satellites are not going to be used for that anyway as one
does not get the spatial resolution required.
Ever try walking at night with a bright flashlight held right on
top of your head? (I've got one of those headlight gadgets by Petzl.)
There's practically no sense of depth because you don't see the shadows.
Radar isn't even meant to do shadows, it's meant to measure the time
between transmission and reflection. They don't have radar imaging
systems in the sense that you have with a camera or an eye having
thousands of millions of discrete sensors behind a lens which focuses a
two dimensional or three dimensional image. So all they can do, is
measure the time between transmission and reception, and calculate the
distance based upon that.
So radar is out of the picture as far as identifying and tracking
individuals is concerned because it creates no picture-picture from
which one can identify a person.
GPS is broadcast transmission -- out into a large area. The device
you hold in your hand does not communicate to the satellite, it only
measures the time difference between several satellites, and uses that
to calculate where it must be within a reference space. And you see how
small they can get it? Palm sized. The problem is the antenna. They
can't get it much smaller because of that antenna; and that antenna
isn't going to be able to work indoors because of the construction
materials.
Next, we come to the brain technology.
In order to induce seizures in a specific person, you have to
target the energy at that person's brain. Quite a bit of energy, I might
add. BPL broadcasts their weak signals everywhere the power lines go. To
get that, one needs rather sensitive equipment. So there is no ability
to localize any brain wave technology to a specific area on the map, and
no way of getting information back without a device which follows
appropriate protocols.
And as I keep pointing out, you're too small a fish in the pond to
target. Targeting a person like you just costs too darned much!
Targeting anyone like that would take a team of... lets see
now, when they do operations against thieves, they generally have three
cars running at one time, one or two people in each car, plus the
headquarters with one or two people there as well. So that's maybe six
people per shift, three shifts per day. Say 18 people. I'm not sure
what the wages would be, but it's going to be over $24,000 per person,
with some in the $50,000 range, maybe one or two close to $75,000. So by
the time you get there, it's going to be close to half a million
dollars, maybe closer to three quarters of a million dollars to do a
decent job of following you. It would be cheaper to just flag you as a
terrorist and throw you into some never-neverland jail. If this were
the soviet union, or anywhere even half way close to the scenarios you
are talking about, some commissar would have had you thunked on the
head and thrown into a handy river or pond.
So my conclusion is that you wish you were important enough, and
with the adrenaline problems you had mentioned before, your mind is
making up possibilities to boost your ego.
Relax! Go for a long run or bike ride. Burn off that adrenaline,
and the world will soon seem ok again.
Clyde, I've been through a heck of a lot in my life. I've seen
people crack in the corporate world due to stress. (I'm a consultant,
remember? I get called in when things are falling apart big time.) I've
seen people get bent out of shape, go nuts, under stress. You have a
different stress, a biological problem which is driving your adrenaline
too high, and that is warping your sense of what is going on. I've been
there myself. And laughed afterwards, when I saw the multiple
interpretations of what was going on.
You need to try harder to... ah... harder is the wrong word, but
close. You need to question your perceptions more, to look at
alternative interpretations of what you see around you. You need to
embrace ambiguity. Unfortunately, adrenaline narrows the mind so that
is very hard.
But you have to try. Stuff like that just burns up your time and
energy, leaving nothing left for you to have a life, enjoy your life,
etc.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 23:05:48 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 23:05:53 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Two hours wasted
In-Reply-To: <20060213050959.53511.qmail@web81607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from
"bonusjack" at Feb 12, 2006 09:09:59 PM
Message-ID: <20060213060548.91630.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I'm really sorry about that post. i just lost my husband a couple
> months ago, h never bought any new audio video stuff. he just kept
We understand.
> fixing anything with tubes. even our TV a Motorola set bought in 65
> has tubes. old bought work like new. reading about spirits inside vacuum
> tubes. kinda hit a note with me as kinda a power of suggestion. and
Exactly. The tapistry of noise creates a vagueness which can be
interpreted as you wish.
It's like an audio scrying ball.
Sometimes it is like the souls pinging memories, trying to use
those memories as ways of opening channels of communication, of warning
or advising, etc.
Some would say that the souls move on after a while. Buddhists
often speak of souls coming back as children of friends or relatives.
You might suggest that to him. Maybe visit some of his friends or
relatives who are pregnant as a way of walking him through
possibilities.
Cling to, remind yourself of the things which remind you of life,
of why you like life, what you wish yet to see.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 12 23:24:39 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 23:24:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213034428.25600.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 12, 2006 07:44:28 PM
Message-ID: <20060213062440.3393.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Clyde, the only prison you are in, is the prison your mind creates.
> If you choose to be blinded to beauty, then even heaven will be a blank
> walled prison to you.
>
> NO; I SEE BEAUTY IN THINGS.
So, why don't you prove it. Why don't you look for it. You want to
roll in ugliness? Open your heart to beauty. Go look for it, take some
pictures you can show others.
> MONEY THOUGH, IS A NEARLY FOREVER
> OBSTACLE; PREVENTING ME FROM CONTINUOUS
> CREATIVITY.
Clyde... yes, money can be a problem. but you can look beyond it.
You are obsessed with perfection. There is no such thing! Most science
is done on a shoestring, equipment cobbled together, etc. You should
see some of the crap I've done to prove a point. Then, the point
proven, some knowledge gained, we build something more lasting. But
never do we spend our last dollar on perfection where it is not
required to prove a point which may or may not be right.
If you really think about things, you can find other ways around
most of the problems.
> Come on, get that camera, go out there and take a few photos of the
> greens or other places
>
> I KNOW OF ONLY A FEW THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO
> PHOTOGRAPH, HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUDEPIT - TULSA
> OKLAHOMA.
Start! Start!! START!!!
> that you see on that web site. The act of
> seeking the photo, of framing and reflecting will slowly awaken your
> appreciation for beauty.
>
> My guess is that you are afraid to see beauty.
>
> NO; I'M NOT AFRAID TO SEE BEAUTY; MONEY
> JUST PREVENTS ME FROM CONTINUOUS
> CREATIVITY.
It's not the money, Clyde, it's the beauty. It's the depth. It's
that you just don't want to go out and see other things.
All of us come to the point where we have to walk away form some
project and just walk our body. We weren't built for sitting; we were
built for walking. Walking, exploring, etc.
So when I get in a spot, I pick up my camera and go for a walk. I
see things that are beautiful, and they inspire me. I see things that
are funny, and they too, inspire me. And maybe late that night, or a
few nights later, I get back to my project.
> Afraid that this
> world can be a beautiful place. Scared witless that you might fall in
> love with this world, this world which hurt you so badly when your
> father died, or when something else major happened.
>
> I DON'T HAVE MUCH LOVE REMAINING IN MY BROKEN HEART.
> WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT MANY AND MOST TIMES,
> WHEN RESISTANCE TO FORWARD MOTION - (PROGRESS) IN TULSA
Yep... That's why I keep saying, go look for beautiful interesting
things. It renews the heart.
> OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN NEARLY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE?
> TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN A PLACE OF NEARLY
> ABSOLUTE INEQUALITY, UNFAIRNESS, AND ANTI FORWARD
> PROGRESS FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE THAT I KNOW.
Nah! No more than any other over-zoned place.
> It's ok, Clyde. We all have scars and pain from losing friends and
> relatives.
>
> MY LIFE HAS BEEN TORN TO NEARLY INFINITE PIECES.
Only if yuu believe it. Only if you believe it.
I've worked with a guy who nearly had his hands burned off,
probably by the Gestapo in WW-II. I've worked with all kinds of people
who have been put through the wringer of life. By and large, people who
really want to do something let go of their pain and do what they want.
You only have so many years of life, Clyde. What do you want to do
with them? What are you doing now with them?
I have a project I am waiting for the right time of year for.
Meanwhile, I'm not complaining that it's too cold, too damp, too
whatever. I'm just slowly getting things together to do it.
The tides of life often leave us humans in the mud flats. But
tides are tides. We learn to make use of them. And when the tides come
in... we are at it again.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 05:57:58 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 05:58:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Two hours wasted.
In-Reply-To: <007301c63055$0f528ee0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Message-ID: <20060213125758.44037.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
It took me over two hours to get with Hutchinson on the Feet 2 Fire webcast
tonight.
OK.
And then I was ridiculed, the host telling Hutchinson that he should
exercise "free will" in not dealing with other researchers.
THAT'S STRANGE; I THOUGHT RESEARCHERS ARE SUPPOSED TO
BE COOPERATIVE AND SHARING WITH ONE ANOTHER, TO GET
THINGS ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF REALITY.
I was played for a fool.
This was preceded by a discussion of spirits inside vacuum tubes, as
indicated by a blue glow, and by a discussion of how the Government
Conspiracy is covering up alien tech at Area 51, and squelching Hutchinson's
work.
REGARDING GOVT. CONSPIRACY; I KNOW THAT THE GOVT.
INTERFERES SO MUCH, IN EVERYONE'S LIVES NOW, THAT IT'S
AN ABSOLUTE WONDER HOW ANYONE CAN SUCCEED IN THIS
FUCKED UP MODERN COUNTRY..!
Both the show and Hutchinson are crap, IMHO.
OK.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 06:10:58 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 06:11:08 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Two hours wasted.
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bonusjack < huricain@pacbell.net > wrote:
I'm really sorry about that post. I just lost my husband a
couple of months ago. He never bought any new audio video
stuff. He just kept fixing anything with tubes. Even our TV,
a Motorola set, bought in 65, has tubes. Old but works
like new. Reading about spirits inside vacuum tubes.
Kinda hit a note with me as kinda a power of suggestion.
And the voices I thought I heard were of Gary. The O.D.ing
on Morphine I think is me telling myself that this is what
Gary wants me to do, so we can be together again. I don't
know anymore. Again sorry for the post, it wont happen
again. Lisa
I AM ANGRILY FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR AN ABSOLUTE
BETTER FUTURE FOR AMERICA - FAR FAR BEYOND THE
MAN FORSAKEN AND GOD FORSAKEN MORAL / IMMORAL
/ TECHNICAL HELL WARZONE, THAT AMERICA HAS GONE
THROUGH, AND THAT AMERICA IS STILL IN.
POLITICIANS AND WE THE PEOPLE ARE ALL EQUALLY
TO BLAME..!
IT IS WE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO WALK
THE WALK, TO GET MAJOR GOOD THINGS DONE, IN THIS
F'D UP MODERN COUNTRY..!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 06:49:18 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 06:49:24 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
1. What's to gain -- how can they make money on this.
(None.)
CORPORATE D.J.'S , SITTING ON THEIR ASSES IN SKYSCRAPERS,
PUSHING BUTTONS..!
2. What's to lose -- what if it gets found out.
(Federal case! Many laws, probably even crimes against
humanity!)
YES.
3. What scale of endeavor? How many people involved?
(Many! Too damned many to keep it quiet for long!)
YES.
> WITH G.P.S. SATELLITE TRIANGULATION TECHNOLOGY
Why GPS??? If they put it on the power lines, it's everywhere.
YES; G.P.S. , AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES.....
It turns up all over the place, with no ability to localize it. So GPS is
not useful in this scheme.
> I'VE BECOME A SMALL PART OF THE TULSA
> OKLAHOMA RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA, AND AM
So what are you broadcasting?
MY BROADCASTS HAVE BEEN VERY VERY CONTROVERSIAL..!
BUT I REALLY DO NOT LIKE CONTROVERSY; TULSA HAS
BEEN A TOWN FULL OF CONTROVERSY, AND I'M SICK OF
IT ALL..!
I WANT PERMANENT PEACE AND QUIET IN THIS TOWN..!
So radar is out of the picture as far as identifying and tracking
individuals is concerned because it creates no picture-picture from
which one can identify a person.
HMM..?
WELL, IT CAN BE A COMBINED USEAGE WITH OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES.
GPS is broadcast transmission -- out into a large area. The device
you hold in your hand does not communicate to the satellite, it only
measures the time difference between several satellites, and uses that
to calculate where it must be within a reference space. And you see how
small they can get it? Palm sized. The problem is the antenna. They
can't get it much smaller because of that antenna; and that antenna
isn't going to be able to work indoors because of the construction
materials.
OK.
Next, we come to the brain technology.
In order to induce seizures in a specific person, you have to
target the energy at that person's brain.
YEAH; IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS A REALITY; IT WOULD BE
SORT OF RELATED TO VIDEO HOLOGRAPHIC TECHNOLOGY /
FOCUSED PARTICLE BEAM TECHNOLOGY.
Quite a bit of energy, I might
add. BPL broadcasts their weak signals everywhere the power lines go. To
get that, one needs rather sensitive equipment. So there is no ability
to localize any brain wave technology to a specific area on the map, and
no way of getting information back without a device which follows
appropriate protocols.
(I'm a consultant, remember?
YES.
I get called in when things are falling apart big time.) I've
seen people get bent out of shape, go nuts, under stress. You have a
different stress, a biological problem which is driving your adrenaline
too high,
CANDIDA TOXICITY AND THYROID STORM[S; I AM NOW
CERTAIN OF.
and that is warping your sense of what is going on.
LACKING OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES CAUSES ME TO DRAW
UNWANTED ATTENTION TO MYSELF MUCH OF THE TIME, BY
NOT BEING ABLE TO DO CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS; AND INSTEAD -
IT CAUSES ME TO TEND TO DO SELF DESTRUCTIVE THINGS..!
I've been
there myself. And laughed afterwards, when I saw the multiple
interpretations of what was going on.
You need to try harder to... ah... harder is the wrong word, but
close.
You need to question your perceptions more,
YEAH; I'VE DONE SO.
TULSA TIME HAS NOW GOT ME SEEING DOUBLE VISION,
AND HAS ME HEARING ECHOES IN SPACETIME: KARMA
BAD KARMA [DON'T CONFUSE THE ECHOES WITH VOICES:
ECHOES AND VOICES ARE 100% ABSOLUTE DIFFERENT
FROM ONE ANOTHER]..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 07:33:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213062440.3393.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060213143309.36638.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I DON'T HAVE MUCH LOVE REMAINING IN MY BROKEN HEART.
> WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT MANY AND MOST TIMES,
> WHEN RESISTANCE TO FORWARD MOTION - (PROGRESS) IN TULSA
> OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN NEARLY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE?
Yep... That's why I keep saying, go look for beautiful interesting
things. It renews the heart.
OK.
> TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN A PLACE OF NEARLY
> ABSOLUTE INEQUALITY, UNFAIRNESS, AND ANTI FORWARD
> PROGRESS FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE THAT I KNOW..!
Nah! No more than any other over-zoned place.
YES..!
ABSOLUTELY OVERWORKED..!
ABSOLUTELY OVERZONED..!
ABSOLUTELY OVERTAXED..!
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
PERIOD. ..!
DOT. ..!
EXCLAMATION POINT! ..!
> It's ok, Clyde. We all have scars and pain from losing friends and
> relatives.
>
> MY LIFE HAS BEEN TORN TO NEARLY INFINITE PIECES.
Only if you believe it. Only if you believe it.
YES; AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO LIVES
HERE IN THIS INDUSTRIALIZED SLUDGEPIT TOWN..!
LET'S CLEAN UP THIS TOWN..!
You only have so many years of life, Clyde. What do you want to do
with them? What are you doing now with them?
MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR EVERYONE..!
WITH ABSOLUTE EQUALITY..!
I have a project I am waiting for the right time of year for.
Meanwhile, I'm not complaining that it's too cold, too damp, too
whatever. I'm just slowly getting things together to do it.
The tides of life often leave us humans in the mud flats. But
tides are tides. We learn to make use of them. And when the tides come
in... we are at it again.
OK.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 10:16:30 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213013552.7253.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060213171618.25974.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
PRISON..!
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 13 12:14:36 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 12:14:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] PRISON..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213143309.36638.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 13, 2006 06:33:09 AM
Message-ID: <20060213191437.55814.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I DON'T HAVE MUCH LOVE REMAINING IN MY BROKEN HEART.
> > WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT MANY AND MOST TIMES,
> > WHEN RESISTANCE TO FORWARD MOTION - (PROGRESS) IN TULSA
> > OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN NEARLY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE?
>
> Yep... That's why I keep saying, go look for beautiful interesting
> things. It renews the heart.
>
> OK.
You say these things, but we see no evidence. Scientists expect
evidence.
> > TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN A PLACE OF NEARLY
> > ABSOLUTE INEQUALITY, UNFAIRNESS, AND ANTI FORWARD
> > PROGRESS FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE THAT I KNOW..!
>
> Nah! No more than any other over-zoned place.
>
> YES..!
> ABSOLUTELY OVERWORKED..!
> ABSOLUTELY OVERZONED..!
> ABSOLUTELY OVERTAXED..!
> WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
>
> PERIOD. ..!
> DOT. ..!
> EXCLAMATION POINT! ..!
You say these things, but we see no evidence. We're scientists. We
expect proof, not just someone saying something that seems unlikely.
As far as we can tell, there are elections in Tulsa. So
representation issues are unlikely. I mean, sure, people complain about
this or that,; but they keep re-electing the same politicians.
Taxes... we all have to pay them. No reference to percentages in
your statement, so we can't tell if true. American taxes are a lot less
than in most parts of the world. So that statement is not likely true.
Zoning... well... many of us don't like zoning till someone tries
to put a garbage dump or nuclear plant or something else noisy or stinky
next door. Again, no references, no comparisons with the area other
comparable cities zone, nor restrictions; so again, there's no
evidence, scientific or otherwise.
You expect scientists to have faith??? When one of us makes a
statement that XYZ is so, others try repeating that experient, modifying
the experiment, etc. to see whether the first guy is right and under
what conditions this is true. Often, we find something was wrong with
the first experiment. We learn things. If we just took it on faith...
then science would be no better than religion -- full of dogma and short
on proof, with odd folks telling everyone what to believe. Pretty
soon, we'd have folks burnt at the stake again for disbelief. That
ain't science! Science encourages people to PROVE or DISPROVE things
they suspect.
So aside from non-science related statements about Tulsa, you
also fail to prove any of those as anything other than your opinion.
And as I said, if you hate Tulsa that much, start looking for
employment ads in other parts of the country, which you can now do
online, and move!
> > MY LIFE HAS BEEN TORN TO NEARLY INFINITE PIECES.
>
> Only if you believe it. Only if you believe it.
>
> YES; AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO LIVES
> HERE IN THIS INDUSTRIALIZED SLUDGEPIT TOWN..!
> LET'S CLEAN UP THIS TOWN..!
Once again, no evidence that people have been torn apart, or that
the town, actually a city, is a sludge pit. Photos of the streets full
of sludge along with a USGS topographic map showing it is substantially
lower than the surrounding area might help the claim.... but basically,
it is unlikely.
> You only have so many years of life, Clyde. What do you want to do
> with them? What are you doing now with them?
>
> MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR EVERYONE..!
> WITH ABSOLUTE EQUALITY..!
How about starting with making life better for yourself?
People are not absolutely equal. Many would prefer to just be left
alone, rather than have their lives turned upside down by improvements.
You wanted to go to Colorado. So why not start looking for
employment ads there. You might find a job, move there, and find... that
it's just as bad as Tulsa. Or that it's a lot better. Either way, you
learn something.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 13 12:31:49 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 12:31:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT
In-Reply-To: <20060213134918.43908.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 13, 2006 05:49:18 AM
Message-ID: <20060213193149.66706.qmail@mall-net.com>
> 1. What's to gain -- how can they make money on this.
> (None.)
>
> CORPORATE D.J.'S , SITTING ON THEIR ASSES IN SKYSCRAPERS,
> PUSHING BUTTONS..!
Like I say, no evidence that anyone can make money on this.
Employees don't count; the organization, company, whatever doing this
has to make money. And it's clear there's no money to be made.
> 2. What's to lose -- what if it gets found out.
> (Federal case! Many laws, probably even crimes against
> humanity!)
>
> YES.
So to risk being in jail for nothing isn't wise, is it? People are
not stupid.
> 3. What scale of endeavor? How many people involved?
> (Many! Too damned many to keep it quiet for long!)
>
> YES.
So it's not happening.
> > WITH G.P.S. SATELLITE TRIANGULATION TECHNOLOGY
>
> Why GPS??? If they put it on the power lines, it's everywhere.
>
> YES; G.P.S. , AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES.....
Again, no proof, not even some reason why they would need GPS.
None of this makes any sense. There is no rational, no reason for it to
be done.
> So what are you broadcasting?
>
> MY BROADCASTS HAVE BEEN VERY VERY CONTROVERSIAL..!
> BUT I REALLY DO NOT LIKE CONTROVERSY; TULSA HAS
> BEEN A TOWN FULL OF CONTROVERSY, AND I'M SICK OF
> IT ALL..!
> I WANT PERMANENT PEACE AND QUIET IN THIS TOWN..!
How do you know there is controversy over your broadcasts? Any
newspaper clippings? Mentioned in anyone's Blogs? Again, no evidence
offered.
> So radar is out of the picture as far as identifying and tracking
> individuals is concerned because it creates no picture-picture from
> which one can identify a person.
>
> HMM..?
> WELL, IT CAN BE A COMBINED USEAGE WITH OTHER
> TECHNOLOGIES.
There has to be a reason why something is used. Technology is
expensive, so they have to justify the use, give reasons why something
is better than something else for a SPECIFIC purpose.
Here, we see no purpose, nor even evidence that the technology is
used.
> In order to induce seizures in a specific person, you have to
> target the energy at that person's brain.
>
> YEAH; IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS A REALITY; IT WOULD BE
> SORT OF RELATED TO VIDEO HOLOGRAPHIC TECHNOLOGY /
> FOCUSED PARTICLE BEAM TECHNOLOGY.
If it were. I don't see it being a reality. Not the way you
describe it.
> I get called in when things are falling apart big time.) I've
> seen people get bent out of shape, go nuts, under stress. You have a
> different stress, a biological problem which is driving your adrenaline
> too high,
>
> CANDIDA TOXICITY AND THYROID STORM[S; I AM NOW
> CERTAIN OF.
There are many other things that could cause that. Everything
ranging from poor ventillation in a hot water heater closet, to furnace
leaks, or just pollen. Something is setting your body off. You have to
get at the root causes of it. (I once had adrenal jabs from a natural
gas powered water heater that vented combustion products into the
apartment. I'd wake up after five hours of sleep, rigid with tingling
of the fingers and lips. Had to do something about the water heater,
and then all that trouble went away.)
> and that is warping your sense of what is going on.
>
> LACKING OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES CAUSES ME TO DRAW
> UNWANTED ATTENTION TO MYSELF MUCH OF THE TIME, BY
> NOT BEING ABLE TO DO CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS; AND INSTEAD -
> IT CAUSES ME TO TEND TO DO SELF DESTRUCTIVE THINGS..!
You are drawing the attention. You can stop doing that.
> You need to question your perceptions more,
>
> YEAH; I'VE DONE SO.
> TULSA TIME HAS NOW GOT ME SEEING DOUBLE VISION,
> AND HAS ME HEARING ECHOES IN SPACETIME: KARMA
> BAD KARMA [DON'T CONFUSE THE ECHOES WITH VOICES:
> ECHOES AND VOICES ARE 100% ABSOLUTE DIFFERENT
> FROM ONE ANOTHER]..!
By using the scientific methods, testing your perceptions several
ways to see if they are true or delusionary, you start sorting out what
is real and what is not. And from that, making better decisions.
A lot of what you talk about is imaginary. You could write a
science fiction novel about this stuff. It would be highly depressing;
but some people like reading depressing stories. Most don't. But if
well written, it might sell.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:43:48 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:43:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ORAL AND GEORGE..! / REVISED FROM PREVIOUS
E-MAIL.....
In-Reply-To: <20060212141923.85076.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060214014348.16099.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED FROM PREVIOUS E-MAIL:
WHO IS THE TALLEST AND BIGGEST PHALLUS
IN TULSA TOWN..? :
CAN ORAL OF THE CANCER ESTABLISHMENT CENTERS
OF AMERICA, AND GEORGE OF THE SANK TANK OF
OKLAHOMA CORRECT THE DAMAGE THAT THEY'VE
DONE TO TULSA OKLAHOMA; ITS PEOPLE; ITS ATMOSPHERE;
ITS ECOLOGY; ETC; AND SHARE THE WEALTH WITH WE THE
PEOPLE OF THIS HIGH TECH, FOREVER HALF ASSED,
INDUSTRIALIZED TURD WORLD COUNTRY CESSPOOL SLUM
TOWN HELL..?
CAN TULSA BE IMPROVED BEYOND THE HELL HOLE THAT IT
ALWAYS USUALLY IS..?
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=122939
SUPERMEN:
ORAL AND GEORGE NEED YOU..!
http://www.eminem.com/
http://www.dre2001.com/
http://www.dr-dre.com/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:47:09 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:47:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA DAVID L. MOSS "CORRECTION" CENTER /
AFFILIATED INFO / CITYPLEX TOWERS / B.O.K. WILLIAMS WORLD
TRADE TOWER.
Message-ID: <20060214014709.92790.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA DAVID L. MOSS SO-CALLED CORRECTION CENTER;
AND OTHER AFFILIATED INFORMATION:
http://www.douglashenderson.com/jail.htm
http://www.trc.eku/aca/admin/Info.asp?state=OK
http://www.correctionscorp/news_release.cfm?news_id=47
http://www.flpba.org/private/oklahoma.htm
http://www.ngway.com/?q=david-l-moss-in-tulsa
WHO IS THE TALLEST AND BIGGEST PHALLUS
IN TULSA TOWN..? :
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=122939
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:47:27 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:47:34 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE DOWNTOWN TULSA ARENA; ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY;
AND MORE TULSA HISTORY.
Message-ID: <20060214014727.17374.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
THE SUPPOSED ARENA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
ALREADY BEEN BUILT, DOWNTOWN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tulsa_Arena.jpg
INFORMATION ON ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Oral_Roberts_University
HOMAGE:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Homage
THE TULSA BLUE DOME DISTRICT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa,_Oklahoma#Blue_Dome_District
ORAL ROBERTS HISTORY:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Oral_Roberts
CHARISMATIC:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Charismatic
CHARISMATIC "AUTHORITY" :
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Charismatic_authority
SOCIOLOGY; [STUDY OF SOCIALISM]:
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/Sociology
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:48:52 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:49:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AGAINST THE BEAST / WHAT WOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU
SAY?
Message-ID: <20060214014852.51608.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
AGAINST THE BEAST:
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=1113233&cid=64664&fp=F
http://www.nationbooks.org/book.mhtml?t=nichols
WHAT WHOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU SAY ABOUT
THE BEAST? :
http://www.michaelcretu.com/biography
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:50:09 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:50:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Tulsa is a prison.
Message-ID: <20060214015009.77924.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Tulsa [Oklahoma] is a prison..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:51:08 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:51:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20060213013552.7253.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060214015108.94038.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
PRISON..!
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:51:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:51:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..!
Message-ID: <20060214015144.18706.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
CREATED..? ..!
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
MASS SCALE PRINTED..? ..!
WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE
MASS SCALE DISTRIBUTED..? ..!
EQUAL FOR EVERYONE..!
TULSA, OKLAHOMA..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 18:55:46 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 18:55:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL VERSION:] MIGHTY MOUSE;
BY: TESLA (THE BAND).
Message-ID: <20060214015546.95707.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
[ORIGINAL VERSION:]
SONG: MIGHTY MOUSE.
BAND: TESLA (THE BAND).
LYRICS BY: KEITH, HANNON, WHEAT, SOMMERS.
EARTH TO MIGHTY MOUSE.
COME IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
COME IN MIGHTY MOUSE.
HELP US MIGHTY MOUSE!
WE NEED YOU!
WELL, I'M JUST LIVING FOR THE DAY.
CHANCES ARE WILL NEVER COME.
ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR A WAY.
TO DO THE THINGS THAT CAN'T BE
DONE.
WHAT MAY SEEM A WASTE OF TIME.
DESPITE OUR GOOD INTENTIONS.
BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHAT'S WRONG
OR RIGHT?
IS THERE ANY CHANCE AT ALL?
MIGHTY MOUSE, COME DOWN AND
SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
FLASHING SIGNALS THROUGH THE
SKY, AND TO BOTH SIDES OF THE MOON.
STILL I WAIT, BUT NO REPLY.
TO INDICATE YOU'RE COMING SOON.
YOU MAY THINK I WASTE MY TIME.
TO RELY ON FICTION.
BUT I CAN'T WAIT TO BLOW THEIR MINDS.
WHEN YOU COME AND SAVE US ALL.
COME AND SAVE US ALL!
MIGHTY MOUSE.
COME DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT!
WE'VE LOST CONTROL.
BREAK DOWN THE WALL.
COME SAVE US ALL.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
SAVE US FROM OURSELF.
BEFORE WE LOSE IT ALL.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
COME DOWN AND SAVE THE DAY.
UNDERDOG IS ON HIS WAY.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE.
CAUSE LORD KNOWS WE NEED SOME
HELP TONIGHT.
MIGHTY MOUSE.
UNDERDOG.
SUPERMAN.
YOU'VE GOT TO KICK THAT KRYPTONITE!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 13 19:11:37 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 19:11:58 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [ORIGINAL VERSION:] MIGHTY MOUSE;
In-Reply-To: <20060214015546.95707.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 13, 2006 05:55:46 PM
Message-ID: <20060214021137.14205.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> SONG: MIGHTY MOUSE.
> BAND: TESLA (THE BAND).
> LYRICS BY: KEITH, HANNON, WHEAT, SOMMERS.
Clyde, you've posted all this stuff over and over again. That's not
nice.
And it's not got anything to do with science, mad or otherwise.
That's not nice either.
Stuff that's posted over and over again is just like spam. You're
not a spammer, you're a nice guy. So how about not doing it again, ok?
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 19:36:56 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 19:37:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RADIO FREQUENCY; AUDIO FREQUENCY;
AND THE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES INTERFERENCE ISSUE..!
Message-ID: <20060214023656.39359.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency#Radio_frequency_spectrum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_frequency
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/10/14/1/?nc=1
http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/complaints.html
http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 19:42:11 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 19:42:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: POSTINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
IN THE INSANITY OF TULSA TIME..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214021137.14205.qmail@mall-net.com>
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javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Clyde, you've posted all this stuff over and over again.
So how about not doing it again, ok?
OK..!
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 20:57:17 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 13 20:57:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214015108.94038.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060214035717.93718.qmail@web51015.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
really quickly:
1.) it's a rare prison that allows internet access
2.) it's a rare prison that allows full library
3.) it's a rare prison that allows its inmates to
leave...
and that's the golden word, clyde...
You have the power vested in you to just pick up and
leave tulsa.
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> PRISON..!
>
> http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 21:18:51 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 13 21:18:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214035717.93718.qmail@web51015.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060214041851.45061.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
really quickly:
1.) it's a rare prison that allows internet access
2.) it's a rare prison that allows full library
3.) it's a rare prison that allows its inmates to
leave...
and that's the golden word, Clyde...
You have the power vested in you to just pick up and
leave Tulsa.
YEAH; IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE
HAPPY, TRYING TO LIVE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
TULSA OKLAHOMA IS JUST NO GOOD..!
CLYDE
--- clyde lofton wrote:
PRISON..!
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 21:23:07 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 13 21:23:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRISON..! TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214041851.45061.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060214042307.56444.qmail@web51002.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
1.) if you don't like tulsa, LEAVE!
2.) isn't the point of mad science sometimes being
inspired by adversity? sort of "they'll rue the day
they threw me out of the academy!"
3.) look at it this way... if tulsa is that backwards:
3.1.) cheap land for hte mad science lab
3.2.) lots of possible dumb lab assistants!
3.3.) friendly villagers with pitch forks and torches,
for that final, climactic scene...
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Clyde,
>
> really quickly:
>
> 1.) it's a rare prison that allows internet access
> 2.) it's a rare prison that allows full library
> 3.) it's a rare prison that allows its inmates to
> leave...
>
> and that's the golden word, Clyde...
>
> You have the power vested in you to just pick up and
> leave Tulsa.
>
> YEAH; IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE
> HAPPY, TRYING TO LIVE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
> TULSA OKLAHOMA IS JUST NO GOOD..!
>
> CLYDE
>
>
> --- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> PRISON..!
>
> http://www.cityoftulsa.org/
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon Feb 13 21:35:10 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIGHTNING LINKS.
Message-ID: <20060214043502.67195.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
LIGHTNING LINKS:
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 14 01:16:36 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 01:16:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Two hours wasted
In-Reply-To: <43F129FC.12122.E67CF5@localhost> from "James Arthur Jancik" at
Feb 14, 2006 12:53:16 AM
Message-ID: <20060214081637.80266.qmail@mall-net.com>
> On 12 Feb 2006 at 23:22, Michael Best wrote:
> > It took me over two hours to get with Hutchinson on the Feet 2 Fire
> > webcast tonight.
>
> It is apparent Mr. Best has never listened to the radio show, now in it's 4th year.
> Otherwise he would of known we have features in the first hour, and never take
> phone calls.
Many of us have not listened to your shows. Indeed, most of us.
We, as slightly mad scientists, tend to run across media as either
ridiculing many of us, or as quite gullible of some of the hokey
pseudo-scientists whom we keep running into in our quests. So sometimes
we might just not catch the humor. And, I think, neither would the
unscientific masses who may listen to your show.
> Hutchison. Mr. Best repeatedly called on both the phone and the Skype VoIP while
> I made it clear we were not taking calls. Was even rude to the call screener who
> attempted to communicate this to him. I had to turn off the phones until I was
> ready to take calls.
I've heard folks queue up on hold for an hour or two before some of
the more popular shows. I have on some science and medicine shows.
(And yes, been quite disappointed when it was clear the person knew far
less than I did despite his advanced degrees. But such is life.) Mr.
Best may have assumed this to be the norm for your show.
> > And then I was ridiculed, the host telling Hutchinson that he should
> > exercise "free will" in not dealing with other researchers. I was
> > played for a fool.
>
> I asked the callers to make their questions concise and to the point, then allow Mr.
> Hutchison the opportunity to answer. When the time to take calls arrived, Mr. Best
> proceeded on the air to attempt to make a case why Mr. Hutchison show work with
> him, stating something to the effect, being recounted here in a greatly abridged
> form, "if we worked together, we could make progress."
Mr. Best, whom I have known via several mailing lists and private
correspondence and telephone exchanges for over ten years now, happens
to be an industrial chemist specializing in experimental design
emphasizing combinatorial mathematics and such. FEW, and I mean VERY FEW
researchers grasp how placing priority on mathematics can reduce the
number of trials needed to home in on a solution. My own father, an
engineer, had that knack. In my own experience in both science and
engineering, this skill is Quite Rare!
> I reminded Mr. Best that this was to be for direct questions and please proceed to
> ask his question. He then asked how he could get in touch with Mr. Hutchison.
> John replied, via email on his website. Mr. Best resumed making his case, why Mr.
> Hutchison should work with him. I then interjected, that this was not a place for a
> sales pitch, being a bit irritated with Mr. Best in his disregard for my lead in the
> shows procedure, and his annoying war-dialling of the phone and Skype, even
> after being told to wait.
There are diplomats, and there are scientists... Sadly there are
few really diplomatic scientists. That may be because humility and
diplomacy are often learned through failure. Not always, but often.
> Personally, I believe Mr. Best's feeling of "ridicule" and being "played for a fool"
> stem from his exaggerated sense of self-importance coupled with his disregard
> for the right of people to work with whom they may or may not.
I rather suspect the comments about spirits in vacuum tubes and
similar nonsense played a large role in this feeling. I know that many
of us, had we heard such without carefully worded elaboration, would
have dismissed your show as utter nonsense.
> As I mentioned in the show, many talk about breakthroughs in the field of anti-
> gravity and inter-dimensional physics, and others have actually done it. John
> Hutchison has done amazing, documented things; and without the council of Mr.
> Best.
> > This was preceded by a discussion of spirits inside vacuum tubes, as
> > indicated by a blue glow, and by a discussion of how the Government
> > Conspiracy is covering up alien tech at Area 51, and squelching
> > Hutchinson's work
>
> Much of the above banter was out of fun, in a relaxed fireside sort of chat.
> Something Mr. Best may not understand due to his focused drive for meaning in
> his life. Also, several of those points were asked by other people, no doubt in Mr.
> Best's opinion, lesser deserving of John's time then he.
Mr. best is indeed quite focused and driven at times. This is
often a plus not a minus... but yes, it can irritate some. He has
irritated me at times; but I have found his skills, knowledge, and
insight generally outweigh the irritation.
As for spirits in vacuum tubes; the chaos inside some types of
vacuum tubes was an area of interest of mine when I was in my late teens
and early twenties, long, long ago. Some things can not be resolved,
and (chuckle) are all too easy to devolve into nonsense, as my play with
them often did. It can be quite difficult to establish a meaningful
cognitive framework for some areas even without unscientific terms like
"spirit" being bandied about. Chaos can be one of those maddingly
fascinating topics even with proper mathematical and cognitive
frameworks. (If those are indeed the proper frameworks...) Some things
just defy... But you just don't know...
> > Both the show and Hutchinson are crap, IMHO.
> > -MB
>
> I perceive Mr. Best's "opinion" to be far from humble, and luckily, even farther the
> general tone of the feedback on the show.
Mike is seldom humble... It can be damned hard being right almost
all of the time. As I've seen in my narrow areas of expertise. People
just do not wish to believe...
But that is the essence of the Mad Scientist's experience -- when
one's own experimental evidence so contradicts others, that the others
refuse to run similar experiments for decades. And then one has to
either believe one's own experience and be cast out of one's
professional and other societies; or recant, occasionally murmuring
under one's breath "yet still it moves" as Galileo did.
> I noticed Tim Ventura is on this list of email addresses. Mr. Ventura has been a
> guest on my show, and expressed to me interest in returning. Perhaps he may be
> a source to gain both an internal and external perspective of the show, being a
> seasoned veteran to this genre of talk radio.
I am sure that many of us, myself included, would find his
observations and comments quite interesting.
> Sorry to impose this reply on you, but, one can thank Mr. Best for that.
We welcome different opinions. Indeed, we could use more germain
traffic on this list.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
-------------------------------------------------------
Another Javilk (tm) brand post.
Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com
Copyright retained. All rights reserved.
From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Feb 14 02:28:33 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Feb 14 02:29:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Two hours wasted
In-Reply-To: <43F129FC.12122.E67CF5@localhost>
Message-ID: <008501c63149$0826ec20$6401a8c0@mikey>
In order to spare blknight a great deal of embarrassment, I will not post
the copy of the two hours of chat we exchanged. At least not today.
I was led into a situation where I was to be the fool for this program. I
realize that people like blknight make there living from telling lies, and
making serious scientists appear to be fools.
However, I fear that blknight has less credibility with this audience than I
do.
So, James, if you wish to continue, I will be happy to show all our Skype
chat session- including times, and the audio recording of our final talk-
demonstrating your inability to make a simple voice connection- an inability
that would make most ineligible for hosting a radio talk show! Most all who
don't provide "other considerations" for their bully pulpit, that is!
What's her name anyway? Or is it HIS name???
I maintain YOU played me for the fool, and for this may you be damned to
hell.
The choice is yours, asshole! If you want a fight, then by God you will
have it, jackass!
Bring it on, motherfucker!
-MB
-----Original Message-----
From: James Arthur Jancik [mailto:blknight@innersites.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:53 AM
To: javilk@mall-net.com; clydelofton@yahoo.com;
mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG; usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com;
teslify@yahoogroups.com; timventura6@comcast.net; mbest@triad.rr.com
Subject: Re: Two hours wasted
Greetings All,
Since Mr. Best sent his original eMail to you, I thought it best to send
this reply as well.
On 12 Feb 2006 at 23:22, Michael Best wrote:
> It took me over two hours to get with Hutchinson on the Feet 2 Fire
> webcast tonight.
It is apparent Mr. Best has never listened to the radio show, now in it's
4th year. Otherwise he would of known we have features in the first hour,
and never take phone calls.
As for his other hour wait, John Hutchison was the guest on the radio show,
not Mr. Best. And Mr. Best was not the only caller who wanted to speak to
Mr. Hutchison. Mr. Best repeatedly called on both the phone and the Skype
VoIP while I made it clear we were not taking calls. Was even rude to the
call screener who attempted to communicate this to him. I had to turn off
the phones until I was ready to take calls.
> And then I was ridiculed, the host telling Hutchinson that he should
> exercise "free will" in not dealing with other researchers. I was
> played for a fool.
I asked the callers to make their questions concise and to the point, then
allow Mr. Hutchison the opportunity to answer. When the time to take calls
arrived, Mr. Best proceeded on the air to attempt to make a case why Mr.
Hutchison show work with him, stating something to the effect, being
recounted here in a greatly abridged form, "if we worked together, we could
make progress."
I reminded Mr. Best that this was to be for direct questions and please
proceed to ask his question. He then asked how he could get in touch with
Mr. Hutchison. John replied, via email on his website. Mr. Best resumed
making his case, why Mr. Hutchison should work with him. I then interjected,
that this was not a place for a sales pitch, being a bit irritated with Mr.
Best in his disregard for my lead in the shows procedure, and his annoying
war-dialling of the phone and Skype, even after being told to wait.
Personally, I believe Mr. Best's feeling of "ridicule" and being "played for
a fool" stem from his exaggerated sense of self-importance coupled with
his disregard for the right of people to work with whom they may or may not.
As I mentioned in the show, many talk about breakthroughs in the field of
anti- gravity and inter-dimensional physics, and others have actually done
it. John Hutchison has done amazing, documented things; and without the
council of Mr. Best.
> This was preceded by a discussion of spirits inside vacuum tubes, as
> indicated by a blue glow, and by a discussion of how the Government
> Conspiracy is covering up alien tech at Area 51, and squelching
> Hutchinson's work
Much of the above banter was out of fun, in a relaxed fireside sort of chat.
Something Mr. Best may not understand due to his focused drive for meaning
in his life. Also, several of those points were asked by other people, no
doubt in Mr. Best's opinion, lesser deserving of John's time then he.
> Both the show and Hutchinson are crap, IMHO.
>
> -MB
I perceive Mr. Best's "opinion" to be far from humble, and luckily, even
farther the general tone of the feedback on the show.
I noticed Tim Ventura is on this list of email addresses. Mr. Ventura has
been a guest on my show, and expressed to me interest in returning. Perhaps
he may be a source to gain both an internal and external perspective of the
show, being a seasoned veteran to this genre of talk radio.
Sorry to impose this reply on you, but, one can thank Mr. Best for that.
James Arthur Jancik
Creator and Host of: Feet to the Fire
www.feet2fire.com
02-14-06
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 05:24:09 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:24:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE; LYRICS.
Message-ID: <20060214122409.55629.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
BILLY JOEL: WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE;
LYRICS:
http://www.lyricstime.com/lyrics/25003.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:24:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK.
Message-ID: <20060214122441.31474.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
BOSTON: PEACE OF MIND; SONG LYRICS; WEBLINK:
http://www.findmidis.com/lyrics.go/1415
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 05:25:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:25:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHY IS DENTAL HEALTH SO IMPORTANT?
Message-ID: <20060214122528.26634.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Why Is Dental Health So Important?
A bright, healthy smile is something everyone wants.
But healthy teeth and gums are important for more
than cosmetic reasons.
Imagine having an untreated infection in your finger.
It would cause pain and discomfort, and eventually
it could threaten your circulatory, cardiovascular,
and other biological systems.
You'd want to treat this problem right away, wouldn't
you?
Good oral care not only helps you avoid dental
diseases, which the 2000 U.S. Surgeon General's
Report on Oral Health calls a "silent epidemic;" it
may also prevent other, more serious medical
conditions.
Indeed far from being seperate from the rest of the
body, your mouth is a good indicator of your overall,
or systemic, health.
http://www.tomsofmaine.com
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 05:28:47 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:28:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A NEW SAYING, BY DR. MICHAEL SAVAGE.
Message-ID: <20060214122847.32768.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
RADIO TALK SHOW HOST; DR. MICHAEL SAVAGE
SAYS THAT LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
WELL; THAT IS PARTIALLY TRUE.
LIBERALISM AND CONSERVATIVISM ARE BOTH,
EQUALLY, **ENVIRON-MENTAL** DISORDERS!
CLYDE LOFTON
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 05:50:56 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:51:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A Painkiller Creation Solution EQUAL For All..!
Message-ID: <20060214125056.64736.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
A Painkiller Creation Solution, EQUAL For All:
This screwed up country has been plunged
into a financial, economic, and ecological
sinkhole by both the worthless power
fuckers that be, and by the dumbass
sheeple (people) of this country.
This screwed up country, needs drastic
moral revival, drastic change in the energy
which we all use, drastic change in the
financial infrastructure, drastic change in
the educational infrastructure, and a drastic
painkiller creation solution, All with God
speed!
Clyde Lofton
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 06:02:51 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 06:03:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] "Blasphemy".
Message-ID: <20060214130251.52256.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
"Blasphemy":
Imperfection is the ultimate sin.
Imperfection is the sin of science.
And God is as equally guilty of
that sin, as man is as guilty of
that sin.
Imperfection is THE ultimate sin.
Imperfection is the sin of science.
And both God and man are as
equally as guilty of the creation
of, and the perpetuation of, that
sin.
Next to murder, imperfection is
the ultimate sin.
Clyde Lofton.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 06:13:33 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 06:13:46 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Conspiracy..!
Message-ID: <20060214131333.1825.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Mr. _____,
What are the chances of the Skull And Bones
Society, and international terrorists, namely;
Osama Bin Laden, and the terrorist attacks
of 9-11-01 being totally linked?
I'm not here to argue about anything, I just
want to put this topic / question out into the
open..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 07:06:24 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 07:06:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MADNESS TO THE ABSOLUTE.
Message-ID: <20060214140624.12375.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
MADNESS TO THE ABSOLUTE:
1. http://www.rense.com/general67/tractor.htm (VIDEO: PHIL DONAHUE
HAS A BLASTING DEBATE, WITH BILL O' REILY.).
2. http://www.tarpley.net/bush7.htm (SKULL AND BONES: THE RACIST NIGHTMARE
AT YALE.).
3. http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm (LIST OF TOPICS.).
4. http://www.rense.com/ (ABSOLUTE MADNESS TO THE HILT; CONTROVERSY
FROM HELL.).
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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Tue Feb 14 07:25:48 2006
From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net)
Date: Tue Feb 14 07:28:27 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fwd: [Commercial Space Place] US DoT Ready to
Approve Commercial Space Flight by 2008
Message-ID: <20060214.062648.19860.342748@webmail52.lax.untd.com>
To: commercialspaceplace@yahoogroups.com
From: markreiff
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:28:36 -0000
Subject: [Commercial Space Place] US DoT Ready to Approve Commercial Space Flight by 2008
FYI,
"US DoT Ready to Approve Commercial Space Flight by 2008"
Flight International
http://www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2006/02/13/Navigation/177
/204623/US+DoT+ready+to+approve+commercial+space+flight+by+2008.html
: The US Department of Transportation, the country's transport
: ministry, could be ready to certificate commercial spacecraft by
: 2008, says transportation secretary Norm Mineta.
: "This timeline isn't based on science fiction," Mineta told
: delegates yesterday at the Annual Commercial Space Transportation
: Conference in Washington, DC. "It is a timeline based on the
: reality of where commercial space is today and where we expect the
: state of commercial space to be within two short years."
: Mineta says the regulator will be ready to approve the flights
: once tests of craft designed to take passengers into space are
: completed. Test permits will be issued in 2007, he adds. "We will
: move quickly to green-light flights that we know are safe," says
: Mineta. "When the industry is set for lift off, we will be ready
: to launch."
Mark Reiff
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 07:32:22 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Feb 14 07:32:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 36
In-Reply-To: <20060214140634.B9C433986D@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060214143222.33890.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I know many see it as pseudoscience, but using NLP ( Neurolinguistic programming) I have cured myself of all illness since Oct 2004.
Basically, I had a cold which would not go away. I realized that I feared catching the cold prior to, when the weather had turned bad, and subsequently feared it getting worse, which it did. I then lamented about how long the cold was taking to go away.
Reading up on NLP, a positive attitude and its impact on health, as well as hypnosis studies (which showed people that some people under suggestion who believed they were getting burned with a flame actually developed reddened welts on their skin), I realized that if the mind is capable of making these symptoms appear then its also capable of stopping them form occurring.
So I simply formulated a belief: "I don't get sick anymore." and repeated it to myself constantly. In a day or two the cold went away and that result reinforced a hypothesis which created a belief, convincing my self conscious that I in fact cannot get sick anymore. And I haven't.
Beliefs are created by reinforcement, whether for better or worse depending on the source ( daddy says I'm ugly all of the time so I'm ugly ) so it's incumbent upon all of us to maintain positive thoughts about ourselves and our potential so that we can influence and alter our results to our benefit. When we see negativity we attract and only respond to negativity. When we see good ( even if we force ourselves to) then that is the filter which alters our perceptions and increases our pleasurable life experience. It's all choice and within our control.
Our minds control our thoughts and our thoughts control our emotions - or else how could we know to fear the sight of a man pulling out a gun if we aren't first thinking about what it's potential destructive power is, which is learned? Or else a child would instinctively know this at birth. This thought preceeds any emotional response. That same guy pulling out a banana would elicit a differant emotional response, because it is again preceeded by a thought.
So control your thoughts and control your destiny, or ignore them, act on automatic and be a victim of fate - the choice is truly yours!
BTW, I work outdoors so if anyone is going to get sick due to exposure it SHOULD be me. I also get about 5 hours of sleep a night, have a very physically demanding job and am almost 40 - so there's no excuses for someone sitting indoors behind a desk to not have the same results, though I'm sure plenty will make excuses why it won't work for them. ;)
Jeff
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 07:39:19 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 07:39:27 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT CONTACT INFORMATION FOR
EVERYONE..!
Message-ID: <20060214143919.77979.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT CONTACT INFOMATION FOR EVERYONE..!
http://www.nsa.gov/
http://www.fcc.gov/
http://www.fbi.gov/
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 14 10:56:24 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 10:56:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Conspiracy..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214131333.1825.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 14, 2006 05:13:33 AM
Message-ID: <20060214175624.13393.qmail@mall-net.com>
> What are the chances of the Skull And Bones
> Society, and international terrorists, namely;
> Osama Bin Laden, and the terrorist attacks
> of 9-11-01 being totally linked?
> I'm not here to argue about anything, I just
> want to put this topic / question out into the
> open..!
1. Zero! Skull and Bones is a very exclusive fraternity at ONE Ivy
League university. It's purpose is to encourage leadership skills.
Most terrorists are too dumb to have gone to ANY university, nevermind
an Ivy League university! There is no PROFIT in terror! Most of these
Ivy League guys have the potential of making high end incomes and living
lives of comparative luxury with a lot less risk than the idiots running
around with bombs and guns.
As a general rule, the smarter you get, the more risk adverse you
get with respect to acute lead poisoning. Not always, as an ESTABLISHED
military does provide a lot of protection, especially to those who are
bright enough to be capable of rising quickly.
Smart people also tend to size up situations and figure out which
side will win, and win fairly quickly. A bunch of rag heads isn't an
army, isn't capable of taking over the USA in a few years, etc.
Smart people also like personal comforts. Terrorists generally
don't have running water, flush toilets, and nice beds in their camps;
things the upper crust world leaders consider minimal standards.
Terrorists generally don't even have toilet paper. They use stinky
latrines, etc. It Ain't Fun! It's a bunch of rather unpleasant
hate-centered people trying to avoid getting bombed, moving often, etc.
while trying to inflict hate upon others.
Terrorism is about as stupid as you can get! Even a partial
victory via open democratic means has got to be FAR, FAR more pleasant
than running around with a bunch of stinking unwashed hate filled people
that make hippies look clean and decent!!!
2. This is not the place to ask this question. We're supposed to be
mad scientists, not world conquerors.
And if some of us are into world conquest (as in Pinky and the
Brain), it's via overwhelming technological advantage, not terror and
destruction. We don't want to have to rebuild the world after we've
succeeded. That takes forever. We need the technology, so we are not
willing to lose the technological base of the world. Terrorists on the
other hand, usually pin their hopes on destroying technology and society
to the point where the people give up Hope.
Terrorism is just THE ABSOLUTE STUPIDEST, most risk prone, least
comfortable way of doing anything!!!
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 14 11:24:43 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 11:24:46 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] "Blasphemy".
In-Reply-To: <20060214130251.52256.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 14, 2006 05:02:51 AM
Message-ID: <20060214182443.33291.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Imperfection is the ultimate sin.
> Imperfection is the sin of science.
Now there is an interesting thought! Something really worth while
thinking about!
> Next to murder, imperfection is
> the ultimate sin.
Hmmm...
Look at the human body. One mess of imperfection!
The Rat has a liver that can detoxify a lot more than our liver
can.
The chaeta can run far faster than we can. Indeed the muscle mass
is far more efficient than ours.
The Crocodile has blood that can hold far more oxygen than we can.
The Bat has ears that can localize and hear far better than we can.
The Eagle has eyes far, far sharper than ours.
The Polar Bear has fur that is so much warmer than any hair we
have.
The whale has a body that can live 270 plus years. And swims
better than we can, and has a brain far larger than ours.
These are all such marvelous nearly perfict creatures.
So why is it that we poor, hairless, weak ape-like creatures own
the world? Why is it that none of these creatures can stand up against
us?
Could it be that perfection is less important than adaptability,
than the ability to combine weak traits to do things that perfection
alone is incapable of doing?
Could it be that evolution, the making of mistakes and retaining
the better mistakes, is central to our existance? Darwin thought so.
Indeed! In computational theory, there is a branch called Genetic
Algorithms. It is the embodiment of the making of random mistakes to
evolve something better than can be created by any other means.
We see from the examples of nature and man that flexibility,
exploration, and adaptation are far, far more important than perfection.
Good enough to meet the needs, and remain flexible enough to be adapted
to meet new needs. That's us pink monkeys.
Science itself is about experimenting, about trying things without
the perfect knowledge or perfict equipment, to explore, to see what
there is that we don't know.
Perfection is just wasteful, rigid stupidity. It's for bean
counters and floor polishers. Even those inferior people we Scientists
call engineers don't seek perfection, just something good enough and
cheap enough to get the job done.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Feb 14 12:12:36 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Feb 14 12:12:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Terrorist toilets
Message-ID: <00c501c6319a$9eae5e70$6401a8c0@mikey>
Javilk writes:
> Smart people also like personal comforts. Terrorists generally
> don't have running water, flush toilets, and nice beds in their camps;
> things the upper crust world leaders consider minimal standards.
> Terrorists generally don't even have toilet paper. They use stinky
> latrines, etc. It Ain't Fun! It's a bunch of rather unpleasant
> hate-centered people trying to avoid getting bombed, moving often, etc.
> while trying to inflict hate upon others.
Iran is one of several countries where it is considered gross to eat with
one's left hand. The right hand is always used for eating, as the left hand
is used for... well, they have very little toilet paper in Iran!
-MB
From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 14 12:16:51 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 12:16:55 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Terrorist toilets
In-Reply-To: <00c501c6319a$9eae5e70$6401a8c0@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Feb
14, 2006 02:12:36 PM
Message-ID: <20060214191651.67503.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > Smart people also like personal comforts. Terrorists generally=20
> > don't have running water, flush toilets, and nice beds in their camps;
> > things the upper crust world leaders consider minimal standards.
> > Terrorists generally don't even have toilet paper. They use stinky
> > latrines, etc. It Ain't Fun! It's a bunch of rather unpleasant=20
> > hate-centered people trying to avoid getting bombed, moving often, etc.
> > while trying to inflict hate upon others.
>
> Iran is one of several countries where it is considered gross to eat =
> with one's left hand. The right hand is always used for eating, as the left =
> hand is used for... well, they have very little toilet paper in Iran!
They had a lot more when the Shah was in power. A lot of the old
folks really would prefer not to have lost the Shah, and the Western
"decadence" that they once had, the rights of women, the rights of men,
too! But for the terrorists...
Terror is an Error!
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Feb 14 23:10:24 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Feb 14 23:10:30 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FW: ARLS001 "SuitSat-1" keeps on ticking;
low power output eyed
Message-ID: <002901c631f6$835242c0$6401a8c0@mikey>
Well, OSCAR-54 (Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio) continues to
broadcast! I think I'll run its Keps through the computer, and train my 15
element Yagi on it for its pass tomorrow, in hopes of getting a copy on it.
I hope everyone will keep 145.990 MHz clear for the duration of OSCAR-54's
useful life.
-MB
-----Original Message-----
From: ARRL Web site [mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:30 PM
To: mbest@triad.rr.com
Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:
Subject: ARLS001 "SuitSat-1" keeps on ticking; low power output eyed
SB SPACE @ ARL $ARLS001
ARLS001 "SuitSat-1" keeps on ticking; low power output eyed
ZCZC AS01
QST de W1AW
Space Bulletin 001 ARLS001
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington, CT February 14, 2006
To all radio amateurs
SB SPACE ARL ARLS001
ARLS001 ''SuitSat-1'' keeps on ticking; low power output eyed
''SuitSat-1''--a discarded Russian Orlan spacesuit equipped with ham
radio gear--remains operational more than a week after being
deployed from the International Space Station, but its 145.990 MHz
FM signal continues to be extremely weak copy on Earth. Speculation
now is focusing on extremely low transmitter output power as one
explanation for the faint signal. SuitSat-1's sponsor--the Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) program--continues
to seek voice telemetry reports as part of an effort to pin down
what might have gone awry.
''The battery life is a big question mark,'' explains ARISS Ham Radio
Project Engineer Kenneth Ransom, N5VHO. ''We still do not know if the
radio is pulling the normal power and losing it before the antenna
or not pulling as much due to lower output. If the latter is true,
the batteries will last much longer. That is one reason the battery
telemetry is so important. It will help us plot the power
consumption.''
Ransom notes that the voice telemetry transmission order is: DTMF
tone, CW ID, SSTV image, 30 seconds of silence, voice
identification, mission time, temperature and battery voltage. The
voice messages, telemetry and SSTV image are being sent on a
nine-minute repeating cycle. Post telemetry reports or recordings to
SuitSat@comcast.net. Late reports showed the battery voltage
holding at 26.7 out of a nominal 28 V. The transmitter, albeit
likely at much-reduced output, and the controller appear to be
functioning.
AMSAT-NA reports its calculations indicate SuitSat-1's transmitter
power likely is in the range of 1-10 mW. The onboard transmitter was
supposed to put out 500 mW and produce a signal that could be copied
on Earth using modest receiving gear and antennas.
The novel SuitSat-1 Amateur Radio transmit-only spacesuit turned
satellite has been heard around the globe since its February 3
launch. Those hoping to get clean copy of SuitSat-1's signal should
possess excellent VHF receiving equipment and high-gain antennas.
AMSAT-NA has designated SuitSat-1 as AMSAT OSCAR 54 (AO-54).
ARRL ARISS Program Manager Rosalie White, K1STO, said the weekend
brought a few reports from teachers who've integrated SuitSat-1
monitoring into their classroom lessons. White notes that the
SuitSat Web site has logged some 5 million hits since the beginning
of February, and media interest in the project remains high.
Packet mode aboard the ISS has been turned off for the duration of
the SuitSat-1 project. Earth stations are advised not to transmit
any packet or voice data on the 145.990 MHz SuitSat downlink
frequency.
More information on the SuitSat-1 project, including QSL
information, is available on the AMSAT Web site
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/index.php .
NNNN
/EX
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 23:40:03 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 23:40:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
Message-ID: <20060215064003.13513.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DO NOW,
NOW THAT THE POLITICAL LEFT AND THE POLITICAL
RIGHT HAVE TOTALLY SCREWED EVERYTHING UP
FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVE DAMN NEAR-NEARLY
TOTALLY MADE AN IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE FOR EACH
AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US EQUALLY..?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 23:45:54 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 23:46:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ORAL SEX, AND GEORGE THE KAISER..!
In-Reply-To: <20060214014348.16099.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060215064554.71214.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
THE ORAL SEX ROBERTS DILDO..!
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
THE GEORGE THE KAISER DILDO..!
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=122939
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 14 23:51:46 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 14 23:51:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ORAL SEX, AND THE KAISER..!
In-Reply-To: <20060215064554.71214.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060215065146.15948.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA
DO NOW; NOW THAT ORAL SEX, AND THE KAISER
HAVE LAUNDERED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US
OUT OF THE MASS MAJORITY OF OUR FINANCIAL
RESOURCES AND REAL ESTATE..?
THE ORAL SEX ROBERTS DILDO..!
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
THE GEORGE THE KAISER DILDO..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 15 00:12:11 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 00:12:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215064003.13513.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 14, 2006 10:40:03 PM
Message-ID: <20060215071211.17684.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DO NOW,
> NOW THAT THE POLITICAL LEFT AND THE POLITICAL
> RIGHT HAVE TOTALLY SCREWED EVERYTHING UP
> FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVE DAMN NEAR-NEARLY
> TOTALLY MADE AN IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE FOR EACH
> AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US EQUALLY..?
First off, the future isn't equally impossible for everyone.
And second, the left and right haven't screwed everyting up. Some
things, yes; but not everything. Not even most!
What future we have, depends on what future we believe in. If
someone believes the future is impossible, then he will do nothing about
his future, and so his future will indeed be bleak indeed!
Those who hold the future to be so-so, will concentrate on hanging
on. And by and large, they will succeed and get by.
But it is those who believe the future is full of opportunities,
they will LOOK for those opportunities, find them, and make the most of
them. They are the ones who become the next upper class. And by and
large, they have earned it by investing in the future, by taking risks,
doing things, etc.
Now, not everyone who plans and tries gets to the upper class. But
from what we see, those who are born into the upper class tend to fall
out of it if they do not invest themselves in the future -- it ALL OUR
FUTURES. For it is those who develop new ideas, found new companies and
DO THINGS who employ most of the workers in America.
But, most successful business people have failed on their first two
or three business attempts, from which they learn a lot, not the least
of which is some respect for reality.
The difference between a success and a failure, is that the
success failed more often. The failure stopped when he failed. The
success just kept trying because he believes the future IS GOOD!!!
I remember how it was in 1979. Bleak! Business was not hiring, the
economy was in tatters, President Carter was saying we had to scale back
our expectations, that we had to be "realistic" about our expectations.
Stagflation was rampant!
Then Ronald Reagan was elected. He was upbeat. He said he
believed the future was very good. People and business believed his
apparent fantasies. The day after his election, business started
planning! Business people believed the future would be good indeed. And
so they started planning and building that future.
Two years later, the economy was booming!
If you believe in the future, you will build your future!
But if you do not believe, then you will cause yourself to fail,
and when you fail, you will stop and BE a failure.
The choice is yours...
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where
prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 00:48:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 00:49:24 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060215064554.71214.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060215074834.99421.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
MIKE;
I GOT THE RECORDING OF MR. JANCIK'S BRIEF
INTERVIEW WITH YOU ON C.D. NOW.
IT IS NOW PLAYING ON LOOP REPEAT, ON MY
L.P.F.M. STATION, HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA.
AFTER LISTENING TO IT; IT IS CLEAR THAT MR.
JANCIK CUT YOU OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT
YOU WERE CONVEYING, AND CLAIMED THAT
IT WAS A SALES PITCH; WHICH WAS A
'DELIBERATE' LIE.
IT IS CLEAR THAT MR. JANCIK DIDN'T HAVE
ANY SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OR THOUGHT
ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE CONVEYING TO MR.
HUTCHISON.
IT ALSO SOUNDS AS THOUGH MR. JANCIK
DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FULLY OPERATE HIS
AUDIO SOUND BOARD AS WELL.
73; CLYDE
WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA
DO NOW; NOW THAT ORAL SEX, AND THE KAISER
HAVE LAUNDERED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US
OUT OF THE MASS MAJORITY OF OUR FINANCIAL
RESOURCES AND REAL ESTATE..?
THE ORAL SEX ROBERTS DILDO..!
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
THE GEORGE THE KAISER DILDO..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 01:17:30 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 01:17:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215071211.17684.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060215081730.98688.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DO NOW,
> NOW THAT THE POLITICAL LEFT AND THE POLITICAL
> RIGHT HAVE TOTALLY SCREWED EVERYTHING UP
> FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVE DAMN NEAR-NEARLY
> TOTALLY MADE AN IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE FOR EACH
> AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US EQUALLY..?
First off, the future isn't equally impossible for everyone.
IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, IT DAMN NEAR IS..!
And second, the left and right haven't screwed everything up.
IN TULSA OKLAHOMA THEY HAVE..!
Some things, yes; but not everything. Not even most!
What future we have, depends on what future we believe in. If
someone believes the future is impossible, then he will do nothing about
his future, and so his future will indeed be bleak indeed!
THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS MOST ALWAYS BEEN
BLEAK..!
Those who hold the future to be so-so, will concentrate on hanging
on. And by and large, they will succeed and get by.
But it is those who believe the future is full of opportunities,
they will LOOK for those opportunities, find them, and make the most of
them. They are the ones who become the next upper class. And by and
large, they have earned it by investing in the future, by taking risks,
doing things, etc.
TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN, AND STILL IS, A GREAT CHASM
BETWEEN THE UPPER CLASS, AND THE MIDDLE AND LOWER
CLASSES.
Now, not everyone who plans and tries gets to the upper class. But
from what we see, those who are born into the upper class tend to fall
out of it if they do not invest themselves in the future -- it ALL OUR
FUTURES. For it is those who develop new ideas, found new companies
and DO THINGS who employ most of the workers in America.
OK.
But, most successful business people have failed on their first two
or three business attempts, from which they learn a lot, not the least
of which is some respect for reality.
OK.
The difference between a success and a failure, is that the
success failed more often. The failure stopped when he failed. The
success just kept trying because he believes the future IS GOOD!!!
THE FUTURE DOESN'T LOOK GOOD IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
I CANNOT BE PERMANENTLY HAPPY IN THIS SLUDGEPIT
INDUSTRIALIZED SLUM TOWN, WHERE PROGRESS AND
SUCCESS NEVER EVER LAST..!
I remember how it was in 1979. Bleak! Business was not hiring, the
economy was in tatters, President Carter was saying we had to scale back
our expectations, that we had to be "realistic" about our expectations.
Stagflation was rampant!
MAYBE IT IS TOTALLY TULSA, TO BE STAGFLATION..? ..!
Then Ronald Reagan was elected. He was upbeat. He said he
believed the future was very good. People and business believed his
apparent fantasies. The day after his election, business started
planning! Business people believed the future would be good indeed. And
so they started planning and building that future.
IS THERE ANY FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA..?
I WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND A
BETTER FUTURE FOR THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA: EQUALLY..!
IT IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO BE PESSIMISTIC ABOUT
TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND THE FUTURE OF THIS TOWN NOW;
AND WITH ALL OF THE ENDLESS BAD NEWS ON THE BROADCAST
STATIONS..!
Two years later, the economy was booming!
THERE IS ANOTHER SONG ABOUT TULSA OKLAHOMA, OTHER
THAN TULSA TIME.
THE SONG IS CALLED: WELCOME TO THE BOOMTOWN.
IT IS ANOTHER SONG ABOUT HOW INSANE THAT TULSA IS, AND
OF HOW ABSOLUTELY VERY LITTLE PROGRESS EVER HAPPENS
HERE, IN THIS OVERWORKED, OVERZONED, AND OVERTAXED
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIAL CESSPOOL SLUM
TOWN..!
If you believe in the future, you will build your future!
I DO BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE; AND I BELIEVE IN MAKING THE
FUTURE GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
BUT SO MANY OTHER FOLKS DO NOT BELIEVE IN A GOOD
FUTURE, THUS BRINGING ME DOWN WITH THEM, TO THIER
ENDLESS PESSIMISTIC AND SENSELESS LEVELS.
But if you do not believe, then you will cause yourself to fail,
and when you fail, you will stop and BE a failure.
The choice is yours...
OK.
FREEWILL IS STILL EXISTANT ISN'T IT..?
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Feb 15 01:18:54 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Wed Feb 15 01:19:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE:
In-Reply-To: <20060215074834.99421.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801c63208$76eeb380$6401a8c0@mikey>
We're done with him. Move on to the next challenge.
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: clyde lofton [mailto:clydelofton@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:49 AM
To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG; MBEST@TRIAD.RR.COM
Subject:
MIKE;
I GOT THE RECORDING OF MR. JANCIK'S BRIEF
INTERVIEW WITH YOU ON C.D. NOW.
IT IS NOW PLAYING ON LOOP REPEAT, ON MY
L.P.F.M. STATION, HERE IN SLUMTOWN TULSA.
AFTER LISTENING TO IT; IT IS CLEAR THAT MR.
JANCIK CUT YOU OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT
YOU WERE CONVEYING, AND CLAIMED THAT
IT WAS A SALES PITCH; WHICH WAS A
'DELIBERATE' LIE.
IT IS CLEAR THAT MR. JANCIK DIDN'T HAVE
ANY SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OR THOUGHT
ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE CONVEYING TO MR.
HUTCHISON.
IT ALSO SOUNDS AS THOUGH MR. JANCIK
DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FULLY OPERATE HIS
AUDIO SOUND BOARD AS WELL.
73; CLYDE
WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA
DO NOW; NOW THAT ORAL SEX, AND THE KAISER
HAVE LAUNDERED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US
OUT OF THE MASS MAJORITY OF OUR FINANCIAL
RESOURCES AND REAL ESTATE..?
THE ORAL SEX ROBERTS DILDO..!
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
THE GEORGE THE KAISER DILDO..!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 01:51:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215081730.98688.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 15, 2006 12:17:30 AM
Message-ID: <20060215085130.68120.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DO NOW,
> > NOW THAT THE POLITICAL LEFT AND THE POLITICAL
> > RIGHT HAVE TOTALLY SCREWED EVERYTHING UP
> > FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVE DAMN NEAR-NEARLY
> > TOTALLY MADE AN IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE FOR EACH
> > AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US EQUALLY..?
>
> First off, the future isn't equally impossible for everyone.
>
> IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, IT DAMN NEAR IS..!
> What future we have, depends on what future we believe in. If
> someone believes the future is impossible, then he will do nothing about
> his future, and so his future will indeed be bleak indeed!
>
> THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS MOST ALWAYS BEEN
> BLEAK..!
Your mind is clearly closed, so you will fail.
> The difference between a success and a failure, is that the
> success failed more often. The failure stopped when he failed. The
> success just kept trying because he believes the future IS GOOD!!!
>
> THE FUTURE DOESN'T LOOK GOOD IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
I see, you are not going to do anything about it.
> I CANNOT BE PERMANENTLY HAPPY IN THIS SLUDGEPIT
No one is permanently happy anywhere. Eventually, even the happiest
people run out of drugs or cash.
> IS THERE ANY FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA..?
> I WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND A
Forget Tulsa. Tulsa's future belings to Tulsa. What about YOUR
future? What are you doing about improving YOUR future?
> IT IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO BE PESSIMISTIC ABOUT
And if you are, then you'll do nothing and prove your pessimism
right.
> If you believe in the future, you will build your future!
>
> I DO BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE; AND I BELIEVE IN MAKING THE
> FUTURE GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
> BUT SO MANY OTHER FOLKS DO NOT BELIEVE IN A GOOD
> FUTURE, THUS BRINGING ME DOWN WITH THEM, TO THIER
> ENDLESS PESSIMISTIC AND SENSELESS LEVELS.
If you believed in the future, you would not be saying Tulsa was
such a bad place. You wouldn't want to waste that time or effort.
> The choice is yours...
>
> OK.
> FREEWILL IS STILL EXISTANT ISN'T IT..?
Only if you wish it to be. But everything I see here suggests you
don't want there to be a futue. You want everyone, including youself,
to be headed for hell as everyone in hell is in absolutly equal
senseless torture. Absolutely!
Clyde, Tulsa, anywhere, has both good and bad. If you look for the
good, you will find it. You can find opportunities, improve your future,
etc. But if you just look for the bleakness, hopelessness... then that
is what you will find, and that is how you will fail.
You are only free if you believe you are, if you TRY to think
beyond the utter bleankess that you try to portray Tulsa as to us. If
oyu believe that crap, then you are doomed.
If you do not want to be doomed, go believe something else. Go LOOK
for the hope, the beauty.
That is why I keep telling you to get that camera and go take
pictures of things that look beautiful.
You are willfully blinding yourself to beauty, and are thus
condemning yourself to failure.
Who's scenario are you acting out?
Do you really want total abject failure equally for everyone?
That's what it looks like.
The choice is up to you. But people won't follow you into failure.
They want to follow others to success. Guess that's not you.
First, you have to believe success is possible, believe it in your
heart, before you can even find a possibility of success.
All we see here from you, is your inability to imagine success as
possible. And your refusal to do anything that migh change your mind
and your path from that cliff you are so determined to have your
imaginary deamons chase you over.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 03:00:57 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 03:01:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215085130.68120.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060215100057.67133.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > WHAT DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DO NOW,
> > NOW THAT THE POLITICAL LEFT AND THE POLITICAL
> > RIGHT HAVE TOTALLY SCREWED EVERYTHING UP
> > FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVE DAMN NEAR-NEARLY
> > TOTALLY MADE AN IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE FOR EACH
> > AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US EQUALLY..?
>
> First off, the future isn't equally impossible for everyone.
>
> IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, IT DAMN NEAR IS..!
> What future we have, depends on what future we believe in. If
> someone believes the future is impossible, then he will do nothing about
> his future, and so his future will indeed be bleak indeed!
>
> THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS MOST ALWAYS BEEN
> BLEAK..!
Your mind is clearly closed, so you will fail.
NO; NOT TOTALLY CLOSED.
THOUGH I AM CLOSED MINDED ABOUT SO MUCH NOW, NOW
THAT I AM OLDER, DUE TO SO MUCH BULLSHIT INTERFERENCE
FROM FAMILY, NEIGHBORS, RELIGION, GOVERNMENT, MEDIA,
ETC.....
> The difference between a success and a failure, is that the
> success failed more often. The failure stopped when he failed. The
> success just kept trying because he believes the future IS GOOD!!!
>
> THE FUTURE DOESN'T LOOK GOOD IN TULSA OKLAHOMA.
I see, you are not going to do anything about it.
I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
> I CANNOT BE PERMANENTLY HAPPY IN THIS SLUDGEPIT
No one is permanently happy anywhere. Eventually, even the happiest
people run out of drugs or cash.
> IS THERE ANY FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA..?
> I WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND A
Forget Tulsa. Tulsa's future belongs to Tulsa.
I WONDER THEN, IF TULSA WILL JUST EVENTUALLY SINK INTO
THE SANDS OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER; AND FADE AWAY AS
AN EMPTY EMPIRE..?
What about YOUR future?
I JUST NEED A SELF SUFFICIENT FUTURE.
THOUGH THERE IS NO EDUCATION SYSTEM, AND NO
FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN PLACE TO MAKE THAT FUTURE FOR
MYSELF, AND THE SAME IS APPLICABLE TO THE FUTURES
OF OTHERS IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SEWER TOWN..!
What are you doing about improving YOUR future?
I'VE DONE A LOT; THOUGH WITH ENORMOUS STRESS ON
MY BEHALF; SINCE PROGRESS IS NEARLY ABSOLUTELY
STIFLED BY GOVERNMENT, FAMILY, AND NEIGHBORS, ETC.
ETC. ETC.
> IT IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO BE PESSIMISTIC ABOUT
And if you are, then you'll do nothing and prove your pessimism
right.
RIGHT..!
> If you believe in the future, you will build your future!
>
> I DO BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE; AND I BELIEVE IN MAKING THE
> FUTURE GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
> BUT SO MANY OTHER FOLKS DO NOT BELIEVE IN A GOOD
> FUTURE, THUS BRINGING ME DOWN WITH THEM, TO THIER
> ENDLESS PESSIMISTIC AND SENSELESS LEVELS.
If you believed in the future, you would not be saying Tulsa was
such a bad place. You wouldn't want to waste that time or effort.
WELL; I TEND TO TAKE MORE OF THE PESSIMISTIC RIGHT
WING VIEW, SHARED BY A MORNING TALK SHOW HOST, HERE
IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, ABOUT TULSA OKLAHOMA; SINCE
THINGS CHANGE VERY LITTLE, IN THIS ENDLESS RUN DOWN
TOWN..!
> The choice is yours...
>
> OK.
> FREEWILL IS STILL EXISTANT ISN'T IT..?
Only if you wish it to be. But everything I see here suggests you
don't want there to be a future. You want everyone, including yourself,
to be headed for hell, as everyone in hell is in absolutely equal
senseless torture. Absolutely!
IF YOU WANT TO VISIT A HELL ON EARTH, AND FIND OUT WHAT MR.
CLAPTON SANG ABOUT, IN HIS COVER VERSION OF TULSA TIME,
THEN YOU ARE WELCOME TO VISIT THIS SLUDGEPIT INDUSTRIAL
SLUM TOWN THAT NEVER EVER IMPROVES..!
Clyde, Tulsa, anywhere, has both good and bad. If you look for the
good, you will find it. You can find opportunities, improve your future,
etc. But if you just look for the bleakness, hopelessness... then that
is what you will find, and that is how you will fail.
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION; UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE OF
TULSA WANT IT TO BE;
WHETHER FOR GOOD, OR FOR BAD:
THIS SLUM TOWN NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP; 'AND NEEDS
TO BE PERFECTED'..!
You are only free if you believe you are, if you TRY to think
beyond the utter bleankess that you try to portray Tulsa as, to us. If
you believe that crap, then you are doomed.
IT ISN'T JUST ME AND ME ALONE.
THERE ARE MANY OTHERS OUT THERE WHO BELIEVE THAT TULSA
IS DOOMED; THAT AMERICA IS DOOMED; AND THAT THE FUTURE
IS DOOMED.
I DON'T WANT A DOOMED FUTURE..!
A MAJOR PORTION OF THE PROBLEM IS IN THE EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM.
ANOTHER MAJOR PORTION OF THE PROBLEM IS IN THE
FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
ANOTHER MAJOR PORTION OF THE PROBLEM IS IN
UNSUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION VERSUS SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION, AND THE PERPETUATION OF THE OBSOLETE
TECHNOLOGY OF THE INFERNAL SLUDGESMUCKIN' ENGINE;
WHEN WE COULD HAVE LONG BEFORE NOW HAVE HAD THE
ALTERNATIVES THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED..!
MAYBE IT IS A TOTALLY FUTILE FIGHT..! ..?
I DON'T KNOW..!
If you do not want to be doomed, go believe something else. Go LOOK
for the hope, the beauty.
YEAH; I'VE FOUND A LITTLE BIT OF BEAUTY IN TULSA, BUT NOT
A LOT.
That is why I keep telling you to get that camera and go take
pictures of things that look beautiful.
YEAH; I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I DID GO TO WALMART TODAY;
[ACTUALLY YESTERDAY NOW], AND GOT A CAMERA, AND HAVE
TAKEN SEVERAL GOOD PICTURES.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 03:31:05 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 03:31:23 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS..!
Message-ID: <20060215103105.39951.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS..!
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 07:18:38 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Feb 15 07:18:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37
In-Reply-To: <20060214190001.CF73039867@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060215141838.44169.qmail@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Javik wrote:" Indeed! In computational theory, there is a branch called Genetic
Algorithms. It is the embodiment of the making of random mistakes to
evolve something better than can be created by any other means."
Could you tell me a bit more about this? Is this a theoretical area like quantum physics, or are there hard, demonstrable results that can be shown?
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 08:01:13 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 08:01:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA STUFF..!
Message-ID: <20060215150113.44483.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA STUFF..!
http://www.tulsahistory.org/
http://www.tulsahistory.org/learn/aboutths.htm
http://bobbydozier.com/tulsa.html
http://wikitravel.org/en/Tulsa
http://www.tulsaweb.com/partytim.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oralverkehr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wills
http://www.subliminal.org/tulsa/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 08:07:42 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 08:07:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] B.P.L. SUCKS..!
Message-ID: <20060215150742.41927.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
B.P.L. SUCKS:
http://text.dslreports.com/shownews/61387
B.P.L. SUCKS..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 08:22:33 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 08:22:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002741.html
Message-ID: <20060215152233.3183.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 08:30:41 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 08:30:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2005-December/002270.html
Message-ID: <20060215153041.30958.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 15 11:23:10 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 11:23:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37
In-Reply-To: <20060215141838.44169.qmail@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 15, 2006 06:18:38 AM
Message-ID: <20060215182310.61869.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Javik wrote:" Indeed! In computational theory, there is a branch called Genetic
> Algorithms. It is the embodiment of the making of random mistakes to
> evolve something better than can be created by any other means."
>
> Could you tell me a bit more about this? Is this a theoretical area
> like quantum physics, or are there hard, demonstrable results that can
> be shown?
Many articles and books have been written on this and many
experiments done, not just in theoretical software, either. I recall
something in Scientific American not so long ago... maybe a year or
three.
One experiment some years ago, not that many years ago, involved
Field Programmable Gate Arrays or some such chip that can be programmed.
The goal was some speech recognition, not words, but specific sounds.
In the end, they had something that sort of worked; but when they tried
to understand how, they could not. And if they removed "useless"
portions of the circuit, it would not function. They concluded that it
had exploited some properties of the chips, some capacitance or leakage
through the silicon, which we did not have mathematics to characterize,
and hence never considered.
The essence is to assign codons to specific attributes, string them
into genes, add some mutation functions, then mix and breed them. The
best are selected for further mutation and breeding. This isn't fast!
But it starts covering and converging toward a good solution. Though if
the gene pool is not broad enough, one ends up with an eventual lack of
vitality.
Early experiments were probably in the 70's, when biologists tried
to model the evolution of certain attributes of plants. They were able
to recapture some of the different leaf growth patterns. I remember
reading about that in Science Digest, I think, way, way back.
My own experiments circa 1990 - 91 were on the Fractal Fern. Using
a 386 and later a 486 machine, I created a series of programs using
Turbo C which mutated the basic formula for the fern. For evaluation, I
put up several grids and counted the dots on the grid lines. Then I
bred the best ones. At first, I had a four by four or five by five
matrix, breeding only four or five. I'd get some generations, but they
would become non-viable fairly quickly as recessives gained hold.
Broadening the gene pool to the full matric, I could get maybe fifty to
100 generations before the recessives accumulated and caused
non-viability.
I got some interesting patterns, some nice spirals, wreathes,
other interesting forms. Then I switched to Linux, and never really
learned the graphics interface for such things.
I still have the software somewhere.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 15 11:37:57 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 11:38:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215100057.67133.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 15, 2006 02:00:57 AM
Message-ID: <20060215183757.70683.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA HAS MOST ALWAYS BEEN
> > BLEAK..!
>
> Your mind is clearly closed, so you will fail.
>
> NO; NOT TOTALLY CLOSED.
> THOUGH I AM CLOSED MINDED ABOUT SO MUCH NOW, NOW
> THAT I AM OLDER, DUE TO SO MUCH BULLSHIT INTERFERENCE
> FROM FAMILY, NEIGHBORS, RELIGION, GOVERNMENT, MEDIA,
> ETC.....
If you do not open your mind, you will fail.
> I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
> ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
Again, you offer no evidence of that.
> Forget Tulsa. Tulsa's future belongs to Tulsa.
>
> I WONDER THEN, IF TULSA WILL JUST EVENTUALLY SINK INTO
> THE SANDS OF THE ARKANSAS RIVER; AND FADE AWAY AS
> AN EMPTY EMPIRE..?
Long after humanity is gone...
> I JUST NEED A SELF SUFFICIENT FUTURE.
> THOUGH THERE IS NO EDUCATION SYSTEM, AND NO
You need to educate yourself.
> What are you doing about improving YOUR future?
>
> I'VE DONE A LOT; THOUGH WITH ENORMOUS STRESS ON
> MY BEHALF; SINCE PROGRESS IS NEARLY ABSOLUTELY
> STIFLED BY GOVERNMENT, FAMILY, AND NEIGHBORS, ETC.
> ETC. ETC.
Meaning a lot for yourself.
> If you believed in the future, you would not be saying Tulsa was
> such a bad place. You wouldn't want to waste that time or effort.
>
> WELL; I TEND TO TAKE MORE OF THE PESSIMISTIC RIGHT
> WING VIEW, SHARED BY A MORNING TALK SHOW HOST, HERE
You are only justifying your opinion. You need to CHANGE your
opinion so that you will LOOK for something better!
> FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION; UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE OF
Then success is not an option either!
A success has failed more often than a failure, because the success
kept on trying! If you can't fail, you wont' try enough things!!!!
> YEAH; I'VE FOUND A LITTLE BIT OF BEAUTY IN TULSA, BUT NOT
> A LOT.
>
> That is why I keep telling you to get that camera and go take
> pictures of things that look beautiful.
>
> YEAH; I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I DID GO TO WALMART TODAY;
> [ACTUALLY YESTERDAY NOW], AND GOT A CAMERA, AND HAVE
> TAKEN SEVERAL GOOD PICTURES.
Hooray! Take many, and eventually your good shots will be more
than one in a thousand.
I get maybe one really good shot in 200 - 400 pictures. You have
to take a LOT of pictures to get one really good one.
That's one example. When I shot expensive film, I took few
pictures and so had few really good shots. Fear of wasting film!
When I went digital, I racked up close to 10,000 shots a year, and
got a lot more good pictures.
We'll talk later about where to post some of these. Someone just
came by and I have to go.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 12:48:38 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Feb 15 12:48:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 41
In-Reply-To: <20060215190001.9A4D239867@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060215194838.44411.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
So based on your experiment on organism viability, do you think that that is a potentially serious flaw in modern genomics/ gene therapy/ genetic engineering, where scientists will identify the main gene but ignore the seemingly unimportant ones creating potential flaws in a generation or two?
I always feel a bit skeptical when "the one gene responsible for ..." is discovered, just because it seems like there must be more to it than just that and, like much of western medicine, they treat the symptom without understanding the underlying source.
> Javik wrote:" Indeed! In computational theory, there is a branch
called Genetic
> Algorithms. It is the embodiment of the making of random mistakes to
> evolve something better than can be created by any other means."
>
> Could you tell me a bit more about this? Is this a theoretical area
> like quantum physics, or are there hard, demonstrable results that
can
> be shown?
Many articles and books have been written on this and many
experiments done, not just in theoretical software, either. I recall
something in Scientific American not so long ago... maybe a year or
three.
One experiment some years ago, not that many years ago, involved
Field Programmable Gate Arrays or some such chip that can be
programmed.
The goal was some speech recognition, not words, but specific sounds.
In the end, they had something that sort of worked; but when they tried
to understand how, they could not. And if they removed "useless"
portions of the circuit, it would not function. They concluded that it
had exploited some properties of the chips, some capacitance or leakage
through the silicon, which we did not have mathematics to characterize,
and hence never considered.
The essence is to assign codons to specific attributes, string
them
into genes, add some mutation functions, then mix and breed them. The
best are selected for further mutation and breeding. This isn't fast!
But it starts covering and converging toward a good solution. Though
if
the gene pool is not broad enough, one ends up with an eventual lack of
vitality.
Early experiments were probably in the 70's, when biologists tried
to model the evolution of certain attributes of plants. They were able
to recapture some of the different leaf growth patterns. I remember
reading about that in Science Digest, I think, way, way back.
My own experiments circa 1990 - 91 were on the Fractal Fern.
Using
a 386 and later a 486 machine, I created a series of programs using
Turbo C which mutated the basic formula for the fern. For evaluation,
I
put up several grids and counted the dots on the grid lines. Then I
bred the best ones. At first, I had a four by four or five by five
matrix, breeding only four or five. I'd get some generations, but they
would become non-viable fairly quickly as recessives gained hold.
Broadening the gene pool to the full matric, I could get maybe fifty to
100 generations before the recessives accumulated and caused
non-viability.
I got some interesting patterns, some nice spirals, wreathes,
other interesting forms. Then I switched to Linux, and never really
learned the graphics interface for such things.
I still have the software somewhere.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 16:30:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD.
Message-ID: <20060215233007.72637.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD:
1. ADDRESSES ECOLOGICAL, POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL
ISSUES.
2. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR
OUR FUTURE, UNLESS WE RESPOND NOW.
3. ROBERT HAOZOUS'S SCULPTURE, CREATED IN 1990,
IS TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE RESULTS OF
WESTERNIZATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AFTER CHRISTOPHER
COLUMBUS' ARRIVAL IN AMERICA; PARTICULARLY OF THE
DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD REPRESENTS CHAINS OF SUBMISSION
ON INDIANS, AFTER THEIR FIRST CONTACT WITH WESTERNERS,
500 YEARS AGO, AND SHOWS HUMAN FIGURES WITHOUT
HANDS, IN AN OVERPOPULATED ENVIRONMENT; AND A
SKY FILLED WITH A MASS OF AIRPLANES.
5. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD STANDS AT THE TOP, SYMBOLIZING
A THREATENED HOPE; AND BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE
WAS WELDED TOGETHER USING MILD STEEL; IT IS
CORRODING RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS
IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENT.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A 72.5 FOOT TALL STEEL SCULPTURE, BY
SANTA FE NEW MEXICO ARTIST, ROBERT HAOZOUS, AS A
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
7. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS MADE FROM UNTREATED STEEL,
CORRODING AT A RATE OF TIME THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE
AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA
ENVIRONMENT.
8. THE SCULPTURE WAS BROUGHT TO TULSA OKLAHOMA,
VIA THE SANTA FE RAILROAD, FROM SANTA FE NEW MEXICO.
[THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM ARTICLES
FROM THE TULSA WORLD NEWSPAPER: MAY 3RD AND MAY
6TH, 1992; AND AUGUST 14TH, 1998.]
[ADDITIONAL:] BOB HAOZOUS'S ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A SILENT
COMMENTARY ON MAN'S LOVE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND OF THE
DESTRUCTIVENESS THAT CAN COME FROM THAT INFATUATION.
THE SURFACE OF THE SCULPTURE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
RUST, TO SHOW THE EFFECT OF TIME, AND THE EFFECT OF
THE ATMOSPHERE.
PHOTOS:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/2ca401ac-c242-4d36-9497-aafbb1c0a8e1.jpg
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 16:41:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [EXPANDED:] LIGHTNING LINKS.
Message-ID: <20060215234049.24347.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
[EXPANDED:]
LIGHTNING LINKS:
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning.htm
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
http://wvlightning.com/tower.shtml
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 16:53:45 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 15 16:53:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215183757.70683.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060215235345.93090.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
If you do not open your mind, you will fail.
OK; I TRY TO OPEN MY MIND AT TIMES.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO BE CLOSED
MINDED, WITH ALL OF THE CEASELESS
SENSELESS STUPID SHIT THAT MOST
PEOPLE CONSIDER TO BE LIFE..!
> I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
> ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
Again, you offer no evidence of that.
OFFERING EVIDENCE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR
TO IMPOSSIBLE..!
SINCE I AM IN THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS, AND
CANNOT AFFORD A $500.00 AND MORE
EXPENSE, TO HIRE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR
TO DO A FULL FLEDGED INVESTIGATION INTO
BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES
HARRASSMENT, TELEPHONE TAPPING
HARRASSMENT, MICRO VIDEO CAMERA
HARRASSMENT, AND RADAR AND OTHER
SPY SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE HARRASSMENT -
I AM THUS STUCK AT JUST HAVING TO RELAY
WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO LEARN ON MY OWN, THROUGH TRIAL
AND ERROR..!
> I'VE DONE A LOT; THOUGH WITH ENORMOUS STRESS ON
> MY BEHALF; SINCE PROGRESS IS NEARLY ABSOLUTELY
> STIFLED BY GOVERNMENT, FAMILY, AND NEIGHBORS, ETC.
> ETC. ETC.
Meaning a lot for yourself.
YES..!
> YEAH; I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I DID GO TO WALMART TODAY;
> [ACTUALLY YESTERDAY NOW], AND GOT A CAMERA, AND HAVE
> TAKEN SEVERAL GOOD PICTURES.
Hooray! Take many, and eventually your good shots will be more
than one in a thousand.
I get maybe one really good shot in 200 - 400 pictures. You have
to take a LOT of pictures to get one really good one.
That's one example. When I shot expensive film, I took few
pictures and so had few really good shots. Fear of wasting film!
When I went digital, I racked up close to 10,000 shots a year, and
got a lot more good pictures.
We'll talk later about where to post some of these. Someone just
came by and I have to go.
OK.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 15 18:36:39 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 18:36:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO WE DO NOW..?
In-Reply-To: <20060215235345.93090.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 15, 2006 03:53:45 PM
Message-ID: <20060216013639.95769.qmail@mall-net.com>
> If you do not open your mind, you will fail.
>
> OK; I TRY TO OPEN MY MIND AT TIMES.
> > I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
> > ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
>
> Again, you offer no evidence of that.
>
> OFFERING EVIDENCE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR
> TO IMPOSSIBLE..!
> SINCE I AM IN THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS, AND
> CANNOT AFFORD A $500.00 AND MORE
Forget it! You said you got the attention of the radio media. Why
do you say that??? Did they mention you in their broadcasts? Were
there newspaper pieces on you???
Believe me, for the circulation your station would get, they don't
care! They have far, far more important things to worry about, like
making a profit selling advertising. Radio stations are ALL about
advertising. If they don't sell enough, they don't stay in business.
And you, with your micropower broadcasting system cover how many
blocks??? Vs how many hundreds of square miles that they cover???
Trust me, they probably don't even remember you, if they ever knew
you. People turn over at ration stations, so chances are that a few
years after anyone said anything, no one knows you. Not unless their
prime advertising people are also buying advertising from you. Which I
don't think they are...
> EXPENSE, TO HIRE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR
> TO DO A FULL FLEDGED INVESTIGATION INTO
> BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES
Not the radio companies interest.
> HARRASSMENT, TELEPHONE TAPPING
> HARRASSMENT, MICRO VIDEO CAMERA
Have you found any??? No. Forget it.
> HARRASSMENT, AND RADAR AND OTHER
> SPY SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE HARRASSMENT -
That is WAY, WAY over their budgets!!! And does not work in any
manner that makes sense for what they might, in their most paranoid
dreams, be interested in.
> > YEAH; I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I DID GO TO WALMART TODAY;
> > [ACTUALLY YESTERDAY NOW], AND GOT A CAMERA, AND HAVE
> > TAKEN SEVERAL GOOD PICTURES.
>
> Hooray! Take many, and eventually your good shots will be more
> than one in a thousand.
But that means you are going to have to shoot lots of pictures. So
get started. First assignment is to learn composition. Get three
stones, put them on your bedspread, and start taking pictures of
different arrangements of the stones. You should begin to see how three
items can be arranged so they look good to you.
Digital camera, right? No film expense, right? Photo, upload to
your computer, and compare the pictures. See what looks better in your
mind. Then erase them.
I erase most of my photographs, as they just are not very good.
Mind you, I know composition, I've done professional photographic work,
etc. Most photos are deleted because they just are not worth keeping.
In the beginning, just explore arrangements of shapes. Does not
matter what they are. This is just about getting use to the camera and
a little bit about composition.
I use to go out in the morning and photograph stones and leaves in
the dirt of the road, trying to remember what I once knew. I was amazed
that some of them looked rather nice.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 15 19:01:31 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 19:01:35 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 41
In-Reply-To: <20060215194838.44411.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 15, 2006 11:48:38 AM
Message-ID: <20060216020131.7871.qmail@mall-net.com>
> So based on your experiment on organism viability, do you think that
> that is a potentially serious flaw in modern genomics/ gene therapy/
> genetic engineering, where scientists will identify the main gene but
> ignore the seemingly unimportant ones creating potential flaws in a
> generation or two?
Nah, that's just the way things work. It's why you shouldn't marry
your first cousin. Your kids will probably turn out ok if you don't
have a bad family history of some strange disease... Indeed, if your
family history is clean, they might turn out better. But if too many of
your kid's kids do that, they might get into trouble. Too much
inbreeding is no good. I mean, look at rock musicians. They couldn't
come from normal families, could they??? And if you think they are bad,
just look at the rappers. Someone should wrap them in straight jackets
and sell them to the Muslims as examples of Western Decadence. Who
knows, it might catch on with their youth, and then we wouldn't have to
worry about them doing anything, good or bad!
> I always feel a bit skeptical when "the one gene responsible for
> ..." is discovered, just because it seems like there must be more to
> it than just that and, like much of western medicine, they treat the
> symptom without understanding the underlying source.
Yes. We are still ignorant savages who can't understand the words,
nevermind the sentences. We call most of the message "Junk DNA" when
linguistic analysis suggests that what we think is important, is just
the punctuation marks.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 04:22:31 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 04:22:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ..?
In-Reply-To: <20060216013639.95769.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060216112231.60244.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> If you do not open your mind, you will fail.
>
> OK; I TRY TO OPEN MY MIND AT TIMES.
> > I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
> > ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
>
> Again, you offer no evidence of that.
>
> OFFERING EVIDENCE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR
> TO IMPOSSIBLE..!
> SINCE I AM IN THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS, AND
> CANNOT AFFORD A $500.00 AND MORE
Forget it! You said you got the attention of the radio media. Why
do you say that??? Did they mention you in their broadcasts? Were
there newspaper pieces on you???
IT IS TOTAL FUTILITY TO EVEN DISCUSS IT ANYMORE..!
WITH INSUFICIENT FINANCIAL RESOURCES ON MY SIDE,
TO DO SUBSTANTIAL INVESTIGATION; I AM JUST STUCK
IN THIS NEVERENDING LOWER MIDDLE CLASS NEVERENDING
NONSENSICAL HELL ON EARTH: TULSA OKLAHOMA / TULSA
TIME... ETC.....
Digital camera, right? No film expense, right? Photo, upload to
your computer, and compare the pictures. See what looks better in your
mind. Then erase them.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 11:37:37 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 11:37:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE TULSA ;
AND PHOTOS OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Message-ID: <20060216183737.62205.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE; TULSA:
1. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS A WORN
CONCRETE CIRCLE, 30 INCHES IN DIAMETER, WITHIN THE
MIDDLE OF ANOTHER CIRCLE, OF 13 BRICKS, ADDING UP,
TO AN 8 FOOT TOTAL INSIDE DIAMETER.
2. THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS LOCATED AT THE
APEX OF A REBUILT SPAN OF THE OLD BOSTON STREET
BRIDGE, ORIGINALLY BUILT IN THE 1930'S; FOR AUTOMOTIVE
USE, AND CONNECTING ARCHER STREET TO FIRST STREET,
LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTHWEST OF THE OLD UNION TRAIN
DEPOT, AND IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE WILLIAMS
CENTER TOWER.
3. WHEN STANDING AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE
FACING ANY DIRECTION; THE PARABOLIC REFLECTIVITY
OF THE CIRCULAR PLANTER WALLS, SURROUNDING THE
CENTER, CAUSE THE ECHO OF SOUND.
4. SOUTHWEST OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE,
STANDS THE RUSTED SCULPTURE; ARTIFICIAL CLOUD.
5. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS SYMBOLIC OF A THREATENED
HOPE FOR OUR FUTURE, WHICH IS SIMULTANEOUSLY
SYMBOLIC OF OUR UNITY.
6. THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS AN ACOUSTIC
ANOMALY; DEMONSTRATING THE PARABOLIC
REFLECTIVITY OF ACOUSTIC SOUND ENERGY.
7. THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HOLDS THE SECRETS
TO THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT WILL SAVE TULSA
OKLAHOMA; THAT WILL SAVE AMERICA; AND THAT WILL
SAVE THE ENTIRE WORLD, FROM THE MASS DESTRUCTIVE
PETROCHEMICAL ENERGY COMPLEX HELL THAT WE ARE
ALL ENTRAPPED WITHIN.
PHOTOS OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
http://www.pbase.com/image/35459909
http://www.tulsadowntown.org/centeroftheuniverse.htm
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=fa5317f7-2ce8-4e80-b4d0-b360f8fda826&IID=5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678.jpg
http://opac.tulsalibrary.org:81/record=b1000235
http://opac.tulsalibrary.org:81/search/.b1000235/1%2C1%2C1%2CB/l856~b1000235&FF=&1%2C0%2C%2C1%2C0
http://local.yahoo.com/mapview?stx=center+universe&fr=dd-local-dma=671&county=Tulsa&approxSpelling=&probability=10&fmap=4194320&csz=Tulsa%2C+OK&sortby=topresults&begin=1&n=10&ed=qZyy1K131DzfwMvnajgoPPWzE0kY1efWxnoKVmbEUPubVLyNlAE-
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 16 12:31:30 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 16 12:31:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ..?
In-Reply-To: <20060216112231.60244.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 16, 2006 03:22:31 AM
Message-ID: <20060216193130.9106.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > > I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT; AND IT HAS GOTTEN THE
> > > ATTENTION OF THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA..!
> >
> > Again, you offer no evidence of that.
> >
> > OFFERING EVIDENCE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR
> > TO IMPOSSIBLE..!
> > SINCE I AM IN THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS, AND
> > CANNOT AFFORD A $500.00 AND MORE
> Forget it! You said you got the attention of the radio media. Why
> do you say that??? Did they mention you in their broadcasts? Were
> there newspaper pieces on you???
>
> IT IS TOTAL FUTILITY TO EVEN DISCUSS IT ANYMORE..!
> WITH INSUFICIENT FINANCIAL RESOURCES ON MY SIDE,
> TO DO SUBSTANTIAL INVESTIGATION; I AM JUST STUCK
> IN THIS NEVERENDING LOWER MIDDLE CLASS NEVERENDING
> NONSENSICAL HELL ON EARTH: TULSA OKLAHOMA / TULSA
> TIME... ETC.....
Clyde, we are, mad or not, scientists. In that sense, a scientist
bases his actions on evidence, not belief. He may believe that something
might be true; but will seek evidence to prove or disprove it.
If the media is not talking about you, they don't care!
Indeed, real microbroadcasters hope the m3edia will talk about
then, for then they might be able to attract advertising.
What's the radius of your signal??? How many dozen people might
listen, when other stations have more music, more news, etc?
>
> Digital camera, right? No film expense, right? Photo, upload to
> your computer, and compare the pictures. See what looks better in your
> mind. Then erase them.
> NO; IT IS A DISPOSABLE CAMERA FROM WALMART.
Is it a digital disposable? Or a film disposable? There are some
web sites for hacking the digital disposables so you can download to
your computer and do what you wish with the photos. A lot cheaper that
way!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
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My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 15:57:03 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 15:57:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE TULSA ;
AND PHOTOS OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Message-ID: <20060216225703.98628.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
CAN YOU INFORM ME AS TO EXACTLY HOW TO CUT AND PASTE
THE BELOW WEBSITE ADDRESS, SO THAT IT CAN BE DONE RIGHT?
THANKS, CLYDE
http://local.yahoo.com/mapview?stx=center+universe&fr=dd-local-dma=671&county=Tulsa&approxSpelling=&probability=10&fmap=4194320&csz=Tulsa%2C+OK&sortby=topresults&begin=1&n=10&ed=qZyy1K131DzfwMvnajgoPPWzE0kY1efWxnoKVmbEUPubVLyNlAE-
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 16 16:33:32 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 16 16:33:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE TULSA ;
In-Reply-To: <20060216225703.98628.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 16, 2006 02:57:03 PM
Message-ID: <20060216233332.79694.qmail@mall-net.com>
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>
> JOHN,
>
> CAN YOU INFORM ME AS TO EXACTLY HOW TO CUT AND PASTE
> THE BELOW WEBSITE ADDRESS, SO THAT IT CAN BE DONE RIGHT?
I don't think it can be done right in most cases. But what you have
below should work with most browsers as is. So I guess you did it
right... no, the page is broken. I think the URL is longer than is
shown, which is a little hard to believe...
http://local.yahoo.com/mapview?stx=center+universe&fr=dd-local-dma=671&county=Tulsa&approxSpelling=&probability=10&fmap=4194320&csz=Tulsa%2C+OK&sortby=topresults&begin=1&n=10&ed=qZyy1K131DzfwMvnajgoPPWzE0kY1efWxnoKVmbEUPubVLyNlAE-
So instead, point to the page where you got that URL.
And by the way, the center of the Universe isn't in Tulsa. I
forget where it is; but we're just some little side arm of an
insignificant galaxy way off somewhere far from the center.
Like so much galactic art, it sounds like another fruitcake artist
backed by people who don't know better. You could probably come up with
better, more genuinely meaningful art than that.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 18:44:27 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 18:44:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists]
[MAJOR REVISION:] THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE,
AND PHOTOS OF THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Message-ID: <20060217014427.48416.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
MAJOR REVISION:
THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
1. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS LOCATED AT
THE APEX OF A REBUILT PORTION OF THE OLD BOSTON
STREET BRIDGE.
2. ORIGINALLY BUILT IN THE 1930'S, FOR AUTOMOBILES;
THE BOSTON STREET BRIDGE CONNECTS ARCHER STREET
AND FIRST STREET, DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE WILLIAMS
CENTER TOWER.
3. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS LOCATED
IMMEDIATELY NORTHWEST OF THE OLD UNION TRAIN DEPOT
STATION, AND DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE WILLIAMS CENTER
TOWER.
4. WHEN STANDING IN THE CENTER CIRCLE AT THE TULSA
CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, AND FACING ANY DIRECTION;
THE PARABOLIC REFLECTIVITY OF THE CIRCULAR PLANTER
WALLS SURROUNDING THE CENTER CAUSE THE ECHO OF
ALL AUDIO ACOUSTIC SOUND, BY THE ONE WHO IS DOING
THE SOUND MAKING.
5. THE RUSTED SCULPTURE THAT IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF
THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, IS KNOWN AS
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY, AND IS
SYMBOLIC OF A THREATENED HOPE OF OUR FUTURE.
7. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS AN AUDIO
ACOUSTIC ANOMALY; DEMONSTRATING A PARABOLIC
REFLECTIVITY OF AUDIO ACOUSTIC SOUND ENERGY.
8. THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HOLDS SECRETS TO
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT WILL SAVE TULSA OKLAHOMA;
SECRETS TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT WILL SAVE
AMERICA; AND SECRETS TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT
WILL SAVE THE ENTIRE WORLD, FROM THE MASS
DESTRUCTIVE PETROCHEMICAL ENERGY COMPLEX HELL
THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN FORCED TO BE ENTRAPPED
WITHIN.
PHOTOS OF THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
http://www.pbase.com/image/35459909
http://www.tulsadowntown.org/centerofuniverse.htm
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=fa5317f7-2ce8-4e80-b4d0-b360f8fda826&IID=5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678.jpg
http://opac.tulsalibrary.org:81/record=b1000235
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 18:44:49 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 18:44:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD.
Message-ID: <20060217014449.49253.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD:
1. ADDRESSES ECOLOGICAL, POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL
ISSUES.
2. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR
OUR FUTURE, UNLESS WE RESPOND NOW.
3. ROBERT HAOZOUS'S SCULPTURE, CREATED IN 1990,
IS TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE RESULTS OF
WESTERNIZATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AFTER CHRISTOPHER
COLUMBUS' ARRIVAL IN AMERICA; PARTICULARLY OF THE
DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD REPRESENTS CHAINS OF SUBMISSION
ON INDIANS, AFTER THEIR FIRST CONTACT WITH WESTERNERS,
500 YEARS AGO, AND SHOWS HUMAN FIGURES WITHOUT
HANDS, IN AN OVERPOPULATED ENVIRONMENT; AND A
SKY FILLED WITH A MASS OF AIRPLANES.
5. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD STANDS AT THE TOP, SYMBOLIZING
A THREATENED HOPE; AND BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE
WAS WELDED TOGETHER USING MILD STEEL; IT IS
CORRODING RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS
IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENT.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A 72.5 FOOT TALL STEEL SCULPTURE, BY
SANTA FE NEW MEXICO ARTIST, ROBERT HAOZOUS, AS A
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
7. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS MADE FROM UNTREATED STEEL,
CORRODING AT A RATE OF TIME THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE
AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA
ENVIRONMENT.
8. THE SCULPTURE WAS BROUGHT TO TULSA OKLAHOMA,
VIA THE SANTA FE RAILROAD, FROM SANTA FE NEW MEXICO.
[THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM ARTICLES
FROM THE TULSA WORLD NEWSPAPER: MAY 3RD AND MAY
6TH, 1992; AND AUGUST 14TH, 1998.]
[ADDITIONAL:] BOB HAOZOUS'S ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A SILENT
COMMENTARY ON MAN'S LOVE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND OF THE
DESTRUCTIVENESS THAT CAN COME FROM THAT INFATUATION.
THE SURFACE OF THE SCULPTURE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
RUST, TO SHOW THE EFFECT OF TIME, AND THE EFFECT OF
THE ATMOSPHERE.
PHOTOS:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/2ca401ac-c242-4d36-9497-aafbb1c0a8e1.jpg
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 18:45:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 18:45:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AGAINST THE BEAST / WHAT WOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU
SAY?
Message-ID: <20060217014534.40813.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
AGAINST THE BEAST:
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=1113233&cid=64664&fp=F
http://www.nationbooks.org/book.mhtml?t=nichols
WHAT WHOULD MR. MICHAEL CRETU SAY ABOUT
THE BEAST? :
http://www.michaelcretu.com/biography
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 18:47:10 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 18:47:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN..!
Message-ID: <20060217014710.49409.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN..!
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-January/002429.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 18:55:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 18:55:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
AND OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
Message-ID: <20060217015544.59372.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
THE BUSHES PRETEND TO LIKE THE KAISERS AND THE OTHER
BIG BANKERS OF THIS COUNTRY; AND I KNOW THAT THE
BUSHES REALLY DO NOT TRULY HAVE ANY LOVE FOR THE
KAISERS AND THE OTHER COMPETING BANKERS, BEHIND THE
SCENES..!
THE COMMUNIST CORPORATE LEFTISTS AND THE FASCIST
CORPORATE RIGHTISTS HAVE ALL TOTALLY SCREWED
AMERICA UP..!
I DON'T HAVE MUCH LOVE REMAINING IN MY LIFE..!
DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
COUNTIES ROB THE SANK TANK SO-CALLED BANK OF
OKLAHOMA, AND GIVE TO ALL OF THE POOR OF THIS
SEEMINGLY NEVERENDING INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND..?
I HAVE LOST ALL HOPE IN THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
AND I KNOW SO MANY OTHERS OUT THERE HAVE LOST ALL
HOPE IN THE FUTURE JUST AS MUCH..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 16 19:07:15 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 16 19:07:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
In-Reply-To: <20060217015544.59372.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 16, 2006 05:55:44 PM
Message-ID: <20060217020715.75522.qmail@mall-net.com>
> WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
> COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
It's called Voting. It's organized! It's easy! Even mad
scientists do it on occasion.
But since we are not in Tulsa, this does not concern us. Quite
frankly, we don't care anymore about Tulsa.
Oh, from what I've seen, I'm sure it's a decent place. But... I'm
not going to visit it.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 19:23:36 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 16 19:23:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
In-Reply-To: <20060217020715.75522.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060217022336.61641.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
> COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
It's called Voting. It's organized! It's easy! Even mad
scientists do it on occasion.
YES; I VOTE; THOUGH OVERWORKED; OVERZONED; AND
OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IMPERIALIST
EMPTY EMPIRE TULSA OKLAHOMA, IS WITHOUT
REPRESENTATION FOR THE MASS MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS
WHO ARE FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS ENDLESS
INSANE INDUSTRIAL SLUDGEPIT SEWER CESSPOOL SLUM
TOWN HELL..!
But since we are not in Tulsa, this does not concern us. Quite
frankly, we don't care anymore about Tulsa.
OK.
Oh, from what I've seen, I'm sure it's a decent place. But... I'm
not going to visit it.
GOOD..!
I WOULD NOT SUGGEST VISITING THIS HELL HOLE ON
EARTH..!
THAT IS; UNLESS YOU AND MANY MANY OTHERS OUT
THERE; OTHER MAD SCIENTISTS, AND JUST EVERYDAY
GOOD PEOPLE COME UP WITH SOME SUPER IDEAS TO
HELP CORRECT THIS PLACE, TO GET THINGS HERE IN
TULSA PERMANENTLY STRAIGHT..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 16 22:38:00 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 16 22:38:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
In-Reply-To: <20060217022336.61641.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 16, 2006 06:23:36 PM
Message-ID: <20060217053800.4457.qmail@mall-net.com>
>
> > WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
> > COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
>
> It's called Voting. It's organized! It's easy! Even mad
> scientists do it on occasion.
>
> YES; I VOTE; THOUGH OVERWORKED; OVERZONED; AND
> OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IMPERIALIST
> EMPTY EMPIRE TULSA OKLAHOMA, IS WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION FOR THE MASS MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS
> WHO ARE FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS ENDLESS
> INSANE INDUSTRIAL SLUDGEPIT SEWER CESSPOOL SLUM
> TOWN HELL..!
If you vote, you are not without representation. So your arguments
fail.
> Oh, from what I've seen, I'm sure it's a decent place. But... I'm
> not going to visit it.
>
> GOOD..!
> I WOULD NOT SUGGEST VISITING THIS HELL HOLE ON
> EARTH..!
The hell is the hole in your mind, Clyde. I am sure that Tulsa is
no worse than any other place I've been, with the possible exception of
Houston, which is a moldy hell for anyone with allergies; DESPITE the
rather high tech stuff going on there.
I mean, Tulsa can't be nearly as bad as some of the retirement
communities in Florida that I've had the misfortune of renting in a few
decades ago. Flat land, flat minds, nothing interesting in the stores,
no book stores, no nothing! But since we were on the edge of the space
coast... there were some occasional interesting people, tech stuff, etc.
if you really, really knew where to look.
Today, you don't have to live anywhere, you have the library of the
world on-line in your rented room in a hovel. Heck, I had it all when I
lived IN A TENT! It does not matter where you live anymore, unless you
work in a real factory-factory screwing down rivets on boilers that
mysteriously have tractor treads underneath them or something
incongruous like that.
> THAT IS; UNLESS YOU AND MANY MANY OTHERS OUT
> THERE; OTHER MAD SCIENTISTS, AND JUST EVERYDAY
> GOOD PEOPLE COME UP WITH SOME SUPER IDEAS TO
> HELP CORRECT THIS PLACE, TO GET THINGS HERE IN
> TULSA PERMANENTLY STRAIGHT..!
Nothing is permanent. Pangaea will rise again! Not on our
lifetimes... but it's coming. And later, much later, the sun will go
nova. Nothing is permanent. Don't hold out for perfection, as you
won't ever find it.
For you, the best bet is find a better, more interesting job, find
an orthomolecular doctor, and start taking pictures of the beauty around
you with a DIGITAL camera, five or ten pictures a day to FORCE yourself
to LOOK at what is around you.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
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Today's Art Photo
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Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 05:46:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 05:46:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
In-Reply-To: <20060217053800.4457.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060217124628.84996.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> > WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA, AND OF THE SURROUNDING
> > COUNTIES HAVE TO DO..?
>
> It's called Voting. It's organized! It's easy! Even mad
> scientists do it on occasion.
>
> YES; I VOTE; THOUGH OVERWORKED; OVERZONED; AND
> OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IMPERIALIST
> EMPTY EMPIRE TULSA OKLAHOMA, IS WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION FOR THE MASS MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS
> WHO ARE FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS ENDLESS
> INSANE INDUSTRIAL SLUDGEPIT SEWER CESSPOOL SLUM
> TOWN HELL..!
WE ALL KNOW THAT BAD NEWS SELLS..!
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT GOOD NEWS ALSO SELLS TOO..!
SO WHY IN THE HELL IS IT THAT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS THE
# 1 MAIN SOURCE FOR ENDLESS BAD NEWS ALL OF THE
TIME, IN AND ON THE TULSA MEDIA?
CAN TULSA BE CLEANED UP..? ..!
OR IS THE FUTURE OF THIS @#$#$%&**&*^^%$#@$@!!!@!##$%*&**!!!!
TOWN, ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS..? ..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 05:51:03 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 05:51:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PEACE AND QUIET IN TULSA..!
Message-ID: <20060217125103.62437.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
INSTEAD OF THE NEWS MEDIA SELLING THEIR
ENDLESS BAD NEWS; WHY CAN'T WE THE
PEOPLE OF TULSA TOWN HAVE 24/7 GOOD
NEWS ABOUT CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENTS TO
THIS TOWN..?
WHY CAN'T THINGS BE MADE MUCH MUCH
BETTER HERE, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS ENDLESS
BAD NEWS, AND ENDLESS COUNTER PROGRESS
TO CREATIVITY AND GROWTH..?
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:16:42 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIGHTNING LINKS.
Message-ID: <20060217171631.69536.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
LIGHTNING LINKS:
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning.htm
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
http://wvlightning.com/tower.shtml
http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/index.html
http://thunder.nsstc.nasa.gov/primer/index.html
http://thunderstorm.vaisala.com/
http://lightningsafety.noaa.gov/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
http://www.nsst.noaa.gov/edu/ltg/
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/researchitems/lightning.shtml
http://www.prazen.com/cori/links.html
http://www.horsburgh.com/h_bolt.html
http://www.cimms.ou.edu/~doswell/ltgph.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 10:16:55 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:17:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
Message-ID: <20060217171655.42503.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
1. ADDRESSES ECOLOGICAL, POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL
ISSUES.
2. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR
OUR FUTURE, UNLESS WE RESPOND NOW.
3. ROBERT HAOZOUS'S SCULPTURE, CREATED IN 1990,
IS TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE RESULTS OF
WESTERNIZATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AFTER CHRISTOPHER
COLUMBUS' ARRIVAL IN AMERICA; PARTICULARLY OF THE
DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD REPRESENTS CHAINS OF SUBMISSION
ON INDIANS, AFTER THEIR FIRST CONTACT WITH WESTERNERS,
500 YEARS AGO, AND SHOWS HUMAN FIGURES WITHOUT
HANDS, IN AN OVERPOPULATED ENVIRONMENT; AND A
SKY FILLED WITH A MASS OF AIRPLANES.
5. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD STANDS AT THE TOP, SYMBOLIZING
A THREATENED HOPE; AND BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE
WAS WELDED TOGETHER USING MILD STEEL; IT IS
CORRODING RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS
IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENT.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A 72.5 FOOT TALL, STEEL SCULPTURE,
BY SANTA FE NEW MEXICO ARTIST, ROBERT HAOZOUS, AS A
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
7. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS MADE FROM UNTREATED STEEL,
CORRODING AT A RATE OF TIME THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE
AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA
ENVIRONMENT.
8. THE SCULPTURE WAS BROUGHT TO TULSA OKLAHOMA,
VIA THE SANTA FE RAILROAD, FROM SANTA FE NEW MEXICO.
[THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM ARTICLES
FROM THE TULSA WORLD NEWSPAPER: MAY 3RD AND MAY
6TH, 1992; AND AUGUST 14TH, 1998.]
[ADDITIONAL:] BOB HAOZOUS'S ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A SILENT
COMMENTARY ON MAN'S LOVE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND OF THE
DESTRUCTIVENESS THAT CAN COME FROM THAT INFATUATION.
THE SURFACE OF THE SCULPTURE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
RUST, TO SHOW THE EFFECT OF TIME, AND THE EFFECT OF
THE ATMOSPHERE.
PHOTOS OF ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/2ca401ac-c242-4d36-9497-aafbb1c0a8e1.jpg
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:17:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE,
AND PHOTOS OF THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Message-ID: <20060217171712.32942.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com>
THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
1. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS LOCATED AT
THE APEX OF A REBUILT PORTION OF THE OLD BOSTON
STREET BRIDGE.
2. ORIGINALLY BUILT IN THE 1930'S, FOR AUTOMOBILES;
THE BOSTON STREET BRIDGE CONNECTS ARCHER STREET
AND FIRST STREET, DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE WILLIAMS
CENTER TOWER.
3. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS LOCATED
IMMEDIATELY NORTHWEST OF THE OLD UNION TRAIN DEPOT
STATION, AND DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE WILLIAMS CENTER
TOWER.
4. WHEN STANDING IN THE CENTER CIRCLE AT THE TULSA
CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, AND FACING ANY DIRECTION;
THE PARABOLIC REFLECTIVITY OF THE CIRCULAR PLANTER
WALLS SURROUNDING THE CENTER CAUSE THE ECHO OF
ALL AUDIO ACOUSTIC SOUND, BY THE ONE WHO IS DOING
THE SOUND MAKING.
5. THE RUSTED SCULPTURE THAT IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF
THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, IS KNOWN AS
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY, AND IS
SYMBOLIC OF A THREATENED HOPE OF OUR FUTURE.
7. THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS AN AUDIO
ACOUSTIC ANOMALY; DEMONSTRATING A PARABOLIC
REFLECTIVITY OF AUDIO ACOUSTIC SOUND ENERGY.
8. THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HOLDS SECRETS TO
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT WILL SAVE TULSA OKLAHOMA;
SECRETS TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT WILL SAVE
AMERICA; AND SECRETS TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAT
WILL SAVE THE ENTIRE WORLD, FROM THE MASS
DESTRUCTIVE PETROCHEMICAL ENERGY COMPLEX HELL
THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN FORCED TO BE ENTRAPPED
WITHIN.
PHOTOS OF THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
http://www.pbase.com/image/35459909
http://www.tulsadowntown.org/centerofuniverse.htm
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=fa5317f7-2ce8-4e80-b4d0-b360f8fda826&IID=5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/5d13cb24-41a2-4cfb-bf6b-a62e724bd678.jpg
http://opac.tulsalibrary.org:81/record=b1000235
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:17:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM, AND UNITY..!
Message-ID: <20060217171723.59888.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
CAUGHT IN A DREAM [BY TESLA [THE BAND] :
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002688.html
UNITY; [ALSO KNOWN AS ARTIFICIAL CLOUD]:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/40156_200.jpg
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:41:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIGHTNING LINKS.
Message-ID: <20060217174121.71889.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
LIGHTNING LINKS:
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning.htm
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
http://wvlightning.com/tower.shtml
http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/index.html
http://thunder.nsstc.nasa.gov/primer/index.html
http://thunderstorm.vaisala.com/
http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/edu/ltg/
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/researchitems/lightning.shtml
http://www.prazen.com/cori/links.html
http://www.horsburgh.com/h_bolt.html
http://www.cimms.ou.edu/~doswell/ltgph.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:42:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIGHTNING LINKS.
Message-ID: <20060217174238.92784.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
LIGHTNING LINKS:
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning.htm
http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
http://wvlightning.com/tower.shtml
http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/index.html
http://thunder.nsstc.nasa.gov/primer/index.html
http://thunderstorm.vaisala.com/
http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/edu/ltg/
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/researchitems/lightning.shtml
http://www.prazen.com/cori/links.html
http://www.horsburgh.com/h_bolt.html
http://www.cimms.ou.edu/~doswell/ltgph.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 10:43:08 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:43:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN..!
Message-ID: <20060217174308.73111.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN..!
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-January/002429.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:45:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060214014348.16099.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060217174455.28924.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 10:54:35 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 10:54:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060214014348.16099.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060217175435.50331.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.williams.com/realestate/index.asp
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 11:04:49 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 11:05:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060214014348.16099.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060217180449.54750.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWER:
http://www.williams.com/realestate/index.asp
CITY OF SO-CALLED FAITH TOWER:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/printthread.php?t=7379
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 17 11:13:32 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Feb 17 11:13:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT DO ALL PEOPLE OF TULSA,
In-Reply-To: <20060217124628.84996.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 17, 2006 04:46:28 AM
Message-ID: <20060217181332.65089.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > OVERTAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IMPERIALIST
> > EMPTY EMPIRE TULSA OKLAHOMA, IS WITHOUT
> > REPRESENTATION FOR THE MASS MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS
> > WHO ARE FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS ENDLESS
> > INSANE INDUSTRIAL SLUDGEPIT SEWER CESSPOOL SLUM
> > TOWN HELL..!
>
> WE ALL KNOW THAT BAD NEWS SELLS..!
> AND WE ALL KNOW THAT GOOD NEWS ALSO SELLS TOO..!
> SO WHY IN THE HELL IS IT THAT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS THE
> # 1 MAIN SOURCE FOR ENDLESS BAD NEWS ALL OF THE
> TIME, IN AND ON THE TULSA MEDIA?
It is because this is not Nazi Germany, nor the soviet union, where
farm production number were used as news to inspire others to lie,
cheat, and steal their way to power. (Not to mention exterminate the
doubters and harass those deemed official scapegoats by the ministry of
propaganda.)
Good news does not sell as well as bad new, because people don't
think they need to see all the good news.
if you want good news, then why do you insist on presenting us
with the bad news about Tulsa?
And Clyde, we've already gotten the links lyrics and such three or
four times before; Mostly, we are not interested, so sending them a few
more times just irritates some of us.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 16:40:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 16:40:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SAVE US FROM OURSELVES..!
Message-ID: <20060217234034.96868.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
SAVE US FROM OURSELVES..!
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005/06/30/save-us-from-ourselves/
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=56&ItemID=8215
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 16:51:49 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 16:51:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060217181332.65089.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060217235149.96208.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
If you want good news, then why do you insist on presenting us
with the bad news about Tulsa?
THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 17:19:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 17:19:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT;
POLITICAL CORRUPTION; AND GOVERNMENT..!
Message-ID: <20060218001934.5972.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_local_government
POLITICAL CORRUPTION:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption
GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 17:25:14 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 17:25:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I AM AT THE BORDERLINE EDGE..!
Message-ID: <20060218002514.10111.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM AT THE BORDERLINE EDGE, OF BEING
AN ENEMY OF, AND AN ENEMY TO, THE
STATE OF OKLAHOMA..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 18:06:37 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 18:06:42 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
Message-ID: <20060218010637.12127.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND
UNDER G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 18:12:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 18:12:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MAJOR MORAL AND TECHNICAL REVIVALS..!
Message-ID: <20060218011229.25390.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
AMERICA HAS GOT TO HAVE MAJOR MORAL
AND TECHNICAL REVIVALS, BEFORE IT IS
TOO LATE FOR US ALL..!
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 17 18:31:27 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Feb 17 18:31:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
In-Reply-To: <20060218010637.12127.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 17, 2006 05:06:37 PM
Message-ID: <20060218013127.47906.qmail@mall-net.com>
> BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND
> UNDER G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
an open mind. You will then understand that you are not being
harrassed. At least, if you are sane. If you are not sane, you will
reject what you read and not connect with the reality the rest of the
world sees.
Read as much as you can about these things! "Knowledge is the best
fence against the world." (I forget who said that. Locke???)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 20:30:09 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 20:30:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: [MODIFIED:] MAJOR MORAL AND TECHNICAL
REVIVALS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218011229.25390.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218033009.4632.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
MODIFIED:
AMERICA HAS GOT TO HAVE MAJOR MORAL
AND TECHNICAL REVIVALS, BEFORE IT IS
TOO LATE FOR US ALL; AND IT IS JUST NOT
POSSIBLE TO HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE
OTHER..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 21:02:08 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 17 21:02:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
G.P.S. HARRASSMENT....
In-Reply-To: <20060218013127.47906.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218040208.77901.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND
> UNDER G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
an open mind.
YES; EVERYONE SHOULD, WHO MIGHT HAVE THE REASONS TO
SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE UNDER BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES HARRASSMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA; AND
UNDER GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM HARRASSMENT BY THE
GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA..!
BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES HARRASSMENT AND
GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM HARRASSMENT OF
CITIZENS WILL LEAD TO INCREASING TERRORISM, INVOKED BY
THE RIGHT WING GOVERNMENT'S OWN DOINGS; THEY ARE
PROMOTING THE INCREASING RISK OF TERRORISM BEHIND
THE SCENES..!
AND THE LEFT WING DOESN'T GET OFF SCOTT FREE ON
THE ISSUE EITHER..!
You will then understand that you are not being harrassed.
NONSENSE..!
WHEN THE RADIO MEDIA PLAYS MUSIC IN RESPONSE TO
THE MUSIC AND THE CONTENT OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT
I PLAY, ON AIR; AND IN RESPONSE TO THE VERY THOUGHTS;
FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS THAT I FEEL..!
THAT IS GOING TOO FAR..!
THAT IS GOING TOO FAR..!
I DIDN'T STUTTER..!
THAT IS GOING TOO FAR..!
I AM NOT IMPLYING THAT ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE
TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED WITH SOME FORM OF MUSIC
TO LINGUISTIC SPEECH SYNTHESIS TRANSLATION
TECHNOLOGY; THOUGH I AM RAISING THE QUESTION OUT
IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, OF A POSSIBILITY
OF EXIST-TRANCE OF SUCH A HIGHLY CLASSIFIED TECHNOLOGY
BY THE F.B.I. ; BY THE C.I.A. ; BY THE N.S.A. ; BY THE
SECRET SERVICE ; AND BY THE F.C.C. ; AND OTHER
BRANCHES OF THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL GOVERNMENTS; INTERPOL;
AND K.G.B; ETC...!
At least, if you are sane.
I AM NOT PERFECTLY SANE..!
HOW CAN I BE PERFETCLY SANE, GROWING UP IN AN
ABUSIVE HOME; IN AN INSANE TOWN; THIS TOWN THAT
VERY LITTLE - TO NEVER IMPROVES IN ITS QUALITY OF LIFE..?
TULSA OKLAHOMA AND TULSA TIME ARE INSANITY AT THEIR
ABSOLUTE WORST THAT CAN EXIST ANYWHERE..!
I AM SPINNING AROUND AND AROUND IN ENDLESS CIRCLES,
IN ENDLESS VERTIGO, IN THIS INSANE INDUSTRIALIZED
CESSPOOL SLUDGEPIT SLUM TOWN......
ELECTRONEUROSIS; ELECTROPSYCHOSIS; AND CHEMICAL
ALLERGIES ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I AM
SUFFERING FROM, HERE IN TULSA..!
If you are not sane, you will reject what you read and not connect
with the reality that the rest of the world sees.
I REJECT THE MAJORITY OF THE NEWS STAND TYPE OF
PUBLICATIONS..!
MOST OF THEM ARE TOTAL CRAP..!
MOST FOLKS DO NOT READ BETWEEN THE LIES..!
TULSA OKLAHOMA IS A NEARLY ENDLESS BRAIN DEAD
TOWN, OF CRACK HEADS AND CRANKS..!
I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN OKLAHOMA ANYMORE..!
I CAN TAKE VERY LITTLE MORE OF THIS INSANE SLUM
TOWN..!
Read as much as you can about these things! "Knowledge is the best
fence against the world." (I forget who said that. Locke???)
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 01:04:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
In-Reply-To: <20060218040208.77901.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 17, 2006 08:02:08 PM
Message-ID: <20060218080437.88271.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND
> > UNDER G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
>
> You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
> an open mind.
>
> YES; EVERYONE SHOULD, WHO MIGHT HAVE THE REASONS TO
> SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE UNDER BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES HARRASSMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA; AND
> UNDER GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM HARRASSMENT BY THE
> GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA..!
Those of use who understand the technology, who have used some of
it, find your statements do not make sense. At All! Not only would we
not use it for those purposes, it can not be used for the purposes you
imply. So something else must be going on.
> You will then understand that you are not being harassed.
>
> NONSENSE..!
> WHEN THE RADIO MEDIA PLAYS MUSIC IN RESPONSE TO
> THE MUSIC AND THE CONTENT OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT
> I PLAY, ON AIR; AND IN RESPONSE TO THE VERY THOUGHTS;
> FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS THAT I FEEL..!
AH! Now I understand! EARWORMS!!! You are a typical person whom the
media, and especially the nogoodnick rok, rapp, and hop singers focus on
and try to entangle with their music.
That's how they make their money. It is NOT by reading your mind;
but by TELLING your mind. And get their jollies seeing brain dead
vacant bodies acting like, well, frogs legs on an electrical grid might
be close.
The solution is simple! Stop listening to THEIR music!
Try some good classical music. Vivaldi, Debussy, Satie, maybe a
little Bach and Beethoven. Some of the other old dead masters. THAT is
music! Rap? Rock? JUNK!!!
> TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED WITH SOME FORM OF MUSIC
> TO LINGUISTIC SPEECH SYNTHESIS TRANSLATION
> TECHNOLOGY; THOUGH I AM RAISING THE QUESTION OUT
> IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, OF A POSSIBILITY
> OF EXIST-TRANCE OF SUCH A HIGHLY CLASSIFIED TECHNOLOGY
> BY THE F.B.I. ; BY THE C.I.A. ; BY THE N.S.A. ; BY THE
Nah, it's the musicians who stand to profit by trying to heterodyne
into your brain with trance like mind rotting junk by various means.
They try to make earworms that force you to buy their imitation music.
Rap music is the worst crap I've ever heard, paced to be mind
deadeningly hypnotic with messages that are utterly hopeless,
psychopathic, and generally ungood. Ungodly, even! Mind rotting
earworms that predispose kids to do unwholesome things!
If you grew up on Classical Music, the rest is just hogwash used
for bilgewater. (Or is it bilgewater used for hogwash? I forget. Neither
is good.)
> At least, if you are sane.
>
> I AM NOT PERFECTLY SANE..!
We, um, noticed.
> HOW CAN I BE PERFETCLY SANE, GROWING UP IN AN
> ABUSIVE HOME; IN AN INSANE TOWN; THIS TOWN THAT
> VERY LITTLE - TO NEVER IMPROVES IN ITS QUALITY OF LIFE..?
But most of us can fake it. Like the aliens in MiB. You know, the
cool ad where they dance together, then the frog-like alien escapes.
> TULSA OKLAHOMA AND TULSA TIME ARE INSANITY AT THEIR
> ABSOLUTE WORST THAT CAN EXIST ANYWHERE..!
I don't think it approaches what went on in Nazi Germany, Stalin's
Russia, Mao's China, or Phol Phot's Cambodia. Not to mention parts of
Africa. The reason they failed is because they didn't know how to use
rap music.
(Hitler used Wagner. Not quite as filling. Hitler would have made
quite an interesting rapper. Get Gobbles and Gehring together, and,
ah, Man, we'd never have been able to stamp those guys out! Not even
after we blew them up! Can you imagine the SS singing their slogans as
rap music! Der Goose Stepping Brain dead fur Der Fuhrer! The crap
really would have gone on for a thousand years, till we burned every
last one of them to a crisp.)
> Read as much as you can about these things! "Knowledge is the best
> fence against the world." (I forget who said that. Locke???)
>
> OK.
So turn off the radio, put on some classical music, and relax.
Might even improve your sanity quotient.
You CAN break loose. Mostly because you are not really chained.
You just have to try to think for yourself, instead of letting the lead
brained borons try to make you think their way till you're all mindless
morons.
You have free will. You just have to exercise it by exorcizing
the demons the rap crowd has been trying to put into your brain. Maybe
a few weeks of classical music and NO rap, NO rock would help you quite
a bit. No MTV, either!
The first day or three, you might feel utterly lost having free will
again. Not to worry, it will grow on you. Or rather, you will grow on
yourself. You will slowly become you, not some music driven puppet.
It's probably your best chance of escape -- good classical music.
Might take a little while to acquire the taste of it; but once you do,
your mind will start working a lot better. It will de-tune your brain
from their Hetrodyning efforts.
Resonant heterodynamics... Interesting! De-tune the resonance, and
the heterodynamics go away! Lots of good classical music! Listen to it
all day. Break away from rap crap!
The second stage might be to get some good poetry and see what kind
of links that breaks. Good stuff, OLD stuff! Dickinson, I forget whom
else.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Feb 18 01:36:10 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Sat Feb 18 01:36:18 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RS0RS Copied!
Message-ID: <000001c63466$5ef0b660$6401a8c0@mikey>
I was barely able to copy the Station ID from SuitSat, OSCAR-54, callsign
RS0RS just moments ago! It was even with my noise level, and I was unable
to copy the temperature and battery voltage telemetry. But I did copy the
beacon code word, which is not published, in order to validate reception. I
cannot reveal this code word until after the failure of OSCAR-54.
Receiving antenna was a Hy-Gain 14 element Yagi (15.2 dBi gain), connected
to a KDK FM-2015R transceiver. The satellite tracking was performed by hand
aiming of the antenna. Signal strength was recorded (generously) at S2.
SuitSat is dying, by all reports. There is a recent, as yet unconfirmed,
voltage telemetry reading of 18.3V, down over six volts in the last eight
hours. I could not copy the telemetry well enough to confirm this reading.
I doubt OSCAR-54 will survive the night, if this is accurate.
-Mike
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 06:32:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] UNLIKE MY FATHER, AND MY GRANDFATHER,
AND MY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS..!
Message-ID: <20060218133156.51898.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
UNLIKE MY FATHER, AND MY GRANDFATHERS,
AND MY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS; I DON'T
WANT TO HAVE A HEART ANYMORE,
BECAUSE MY HEART HURTS SO MUCH..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 07:07:10 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] B.P.L. SO-CALLED INTERFERENCE..!
In-Reply-To: <007c01c63455$fb1e2880$6401a8c0@mikey>
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***************
The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 07
February 17, 2006
***************
* +ARRL cites BPL database irregularities in complaint.
==>LEAGUE COMPLAINS TO FCC ABOUT BPL DATABASE IRREGULARITIES
Describing the FCC-mandated BPL Interference Resolution Web site
as "woefully incomplete and improperly managed," the ARRL has called on
the FCC to order database manager United Telecomm Council (UTC) to fix
it immediately or appoint "a competent database manager" to repair the
problems.
"The database management is either shamefully incompetent on the part of UTC
or simply nonexistent," the ARRL said in a complaint this week to the FCC's
Office of Engineering and Technology (OET). "The database is merely 'garbage
in, garbage out,' and in its present form cannot serve any useful purpose at
all, much less a 'sufficient' means of addressing BPL interference."
[B.P.L. INTERFERENCE IS A HOKEY TERMINOLOGY, USED
TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE FEDERAL COMMUNE-ICATIONS
COMMISSIARIAT; THE NATIONAL SO-CALLED SECURITY
ADMINISTRATION; AND THE MEDIA ARE DOING..!
THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY IS B.P.L. HARRASSMENT..!
AND PEOPLE ARE SICK OF IT..!]
In a related development, UTC
[UNIVERSAL TIME COORDINATION / UNIVERSAL COORDINATED TIME.]
has terminated the ARRL's access to the BPL Interference Resolution Web
site,
[WHICH IS ABSOLUTE NONSENSE..!]
and the League plans to file a separate complaint to the FCC on that
issue.
GOOD..!
THE F.C.C. AND OTHERS DESERVE TO BE BLASTED WITH SHIT..!
League efforts to access the database yielded this error message:
"The system has determined that this line of searching constitues [sic]
unauthorized use of the database. Cease operations immediately."
[COMMUNISTIC AND FASCISTIC BUREAUCRATIC HORSESHIT..!]
The BPL database should be accessible from other ISPs, however, and
the ARRL wants to hear from anyone else spotting discrepancies as well
as from those whose database access has been curtailed or cut off.
The ARRL already has complained about the UTC database's use of ZIP
codes as a sole database access key. To simplify searches, the League
has requested that the FCC require UTC to provide a list of ZIP codes
where BPL systems are on line or pending.
OK; THE ZIP CODES OF EVERYONE IN AMERICA WHO ARE
CURRENTLY UNDER THE B.P.L. / G.P.S. HARRASSMENT
'STANDARD'..!
The FCC ordered creation of the BPL Interference Resolution database to
provide licensed spectrum users a central, public information source on
local BPL operations to help resolve incidents of harmful interference.
OK; WELL THEN; IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TO A TOTAL COMPLETION
OR SOMETHING THEN..!
Commission rules require BPL operators to provide the name of the BPL
provider,
GOOD..!
I WANT TO KNOW THE NAME OF MY B.P.L. PROVIDER..!
frequencies of operation,
AND YES..!
I WANT TO KNOW THE FREQUENCIES OF OPERATION...!
postal ZIP codes served,
IN MY NUTCASE; 74145; TULSA OKLAHOMA...!
manufacturer and type of BPL equipment,
YES..!
DAMNED STRAIGHT..!
a point-of-contact telephone number
YES..!
and e-mail address for
interference [HARRASSMENT]
inquiries and resolution,
YES..!
and the proposed or actual date the system will start operation.
START; OR CEASE THE OPERATION..?
Having correct and up-to-date information in the BPL Interference Resolution
Database benefits both BPL providers and licensed services,
FUCK B.P.L. ..!
the League has pointed out. For example, a radio amateur suspecting BPL interference [HARRASSMENT]
might be able to rule out the possibility by consulting the database.
IF THE DATABASE WORKS..!
ARRL Laboratory Manager Ed Hare, W1RFI--the League's point man on BPL
technical issues--says that while the BPL database has its shortcummings,
ARRL staff have until now made extensive use of it to help radio amateurs
deal appropriately with interference issues.
REALLY..?
"In the past, when amateurs have reported BPL interference, [HARRASSMENT]
one industry response has been to claim that the amateur station is hearing
some other noise and thinking that it's BPL," Hare said. The BPL database
makes it possible to baseline [ELECTRONEUROTIC NOISE LEVELS..?]
noise levels in advance of a BPL deployment and
can even help to prevent erroneous interference [HARRASSMENT]
reports, he pointed out.
"The UTC's escalating restrictions on access to the database will serve
little other purpose than to make it harder for amateurs to identify BPL
interference [HARRASSMENT] correctly," Hare remarked.
OK; SO DOES THAT IMPLY THAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WILL BE
FORCED THEN, TO RISE UP AGAINST 'OUR' OF CONTROL, INSANE
GOVERNMENT, AND DEMAND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE,
WITHOUT EXCEPTION..?
The ARRL complaint said the FCC should require UTC "to revisit every entry
in the database and verify independently the information provided."
Alternatively, the League requested that the FCC relieve UTC as database
manager and appoint a new one that will supervise it properly.
"The fox, therefore, should be withdrawn from the henhouse," the League
said.
OK..!
SO LET IT BE WRITTEN: SO LET IT BE DONE..!
Attached to the League's letter of complaint was a compilation of BPL
database errors and omissions the ARRL discovered between January 27 and
February 14, 2006. "There may be others," the ARRL noted. The League said
the FCC is obliged under Part 15 to apply sanctions on BPL providers not
complying with the database requirements.
Most noteworthy among the alleged violators are the Briarcliff Manor, New
York, and Allentown, Pennsylvania-area BPL systems that have been the cause
of substantial interference to Amateur Radio stations.
OK: THE TULSA OKLAHOMA B.P.L. SYSTEM NEEDS A SERIOUS
INVESTIGATION; AND PERHAPS DESTRUCTION BY WE THE PEOPLE..!
MAYBE IT IS TIME FOR ALL OF US TULSAN'S TO START CUTTING
CAMERA'S FROM THE WEALTHY ELITE PLACES; AND START
CUTTING FIBER OPTIC BROADBAND CABLES ON TELEPHONE POLES;
AND SHORT CIRCUITING ELECTRIC UTILITY SUBSTATIONS AT
SPECIFIC LOCATIONS; AND CUTTING COAXIAL CABLES ON BROADCAST
RADIO AND TELEVISION MEDIAA TOWERS; AND CUTTING GUY WIRES
ON BROADCAST MEDIA TOWERS; AND CUTTING COAXIAL CABLES
AT CELLULAR TELEPHONE TOWERS; AND KNOCKING THE FLASHY
PHALLUS TOWERS OF MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT DOWN..!
..!
The League recently asked the FCC to shut down the Briarcliff Manor system because of longstanding interference [HARRASSMENT] complaints.
GOOD..!
NOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
Such BPL operators have no incentive to comply with the database requirements because "their scofflaw attitudes" toward the few BPL regulations in place have
been rewarded by FCC inaction, the ARRL complaint said.
A copy of the League's complaint is on the ARRL Web site.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 07:15:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
In-Reply-To: <20060218080437.88271.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218141519.32192.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND
> > UNDER G.P.S. HARRASSMENT; WHAT DO I DO?
>
> You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
> an open mind.
>
> YES; EVERYONE SHOULD, WHO MIGHT HAVE THE REASONS TO
> SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE UNDER BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES HARRASSMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA; AND
> UNDER GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM HARRASSMENT BY THE
> GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA..!
Those of use who understand the technology, who have used some of
it, find your statements do not make sense.
WHAT EVER..!
IT'S NO GOOD TRYING TO ARGUE A POINT, WHEN THE
DECK IS STACKED FOR FAILURE..!
YOU DON'T LIVE IN TULSA; ETC.....
I'VE GOT NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE ANYTHING, I GUESS..!
JUST THAT MY ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS
ALL SCREWED UP, AND THAT THE GOVERMENT AND
THE MEDIA ARE FUCKING WITH ME..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 07:37:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] B.P.L. HARRASSMENT..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218140703.69790.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218143718.91968.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
The League recently asked the F.C.C. to shut down the
Briarcliff Manor system because of longstanding interference
[HARRASSMENT]
complaints.
GOOD..!
NOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
Such B.P.L. operators have no incentive to comply with the
database requirements because "their scofflaw attitudes"
..! BECAUSE OF THEIR SCOFF AT THE LAW ATTITUDES ..!
FUCK B.P.L. ..!
toward the few B.P.L. regulations in place have been rewarded
by F.C.C. inaction, the A.R.R.L. complaint said.
A copy of the League's complaint is on the ARRL Web site.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 08:35:13 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 08:35:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [EXPANDED:] B.P.L. HARRASSMENT..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218143718.91968.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218153513.9522.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
EXPANDED:
The League recently asked the F.C.C. to shut down the
Briarcliff Manor system because of longstanding interference
[HARRASSMENT]
complaints.
GOOD..!
NOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
Such B.P.L. operators have no incentive to comply with the
database requirements because "their scofflaw attitudes"
..! BECAUSE OF THEIR SCOFF AT THE LAW ATTITUDES ..!
FUCK B.P.L. ..!
toward the few B.P.L. regulations in place have been rewarded
by F.C.C. inaction, the A.R.R.L. complaint said.
A copy of the League's complaint is on the ARRL Web site.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
https://www.nab.org/Newsroom/PressRel/Filings/BPLReplies82003.pdf#search='national%20association%20of%broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/11/14/101/?nc=1
http://www.nab.org/newsroom/PressRel/Filings/broadbandComs7703.pdf#search='national%20association%20of%20broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
http://www.eham.net/articles/6800?ehamsid=b43fc8a89c4da7de462e34c1bc3ec1a3
http://www.mstv.org/docs/MSTV%20Comments%20on%20BPL%20NPRM%20(FINAL%20050304).pdf#search='national%20association%20of%broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 08:43:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] B.P.L. HARRASSMENT INFORMATION..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218153513.9522.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218154315.89881.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
B.P.L. HARRASSMENT INFORMATION:
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
https://www.nab.org/Newsroom/PressRel/Filings/BPLReplies82003.pdf#search='national%20association%20of%broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/11/14/101/?nc=1
http://www.nab.org/newsroom/PressRel/Filings/broadbandComs7703.pdf#search='national%20association%20of%20broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
http://www.eham.net/articles/6800?ehamsid=b43fc8a89c4da7de462e34c1bc3ec1a3
http://www.mstv.org/docs/MSTV%20Comments%20on%20BPL%20NPRM%20(FINAL%20050304).pdf#search='national%20association%20of%broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 08:46:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] JOHN.
In-Reply-To: <20060218154315.89881.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218154609.85315.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
SOMEHOW, THE FOLLOWING WEBLINK WILL NOT REMAIN AS
ONE ENTIRE PIECE, DUE TO SOME FUCKING STUPID COMPUTER
INTERNET BULLSHIT.
http://www.mstv.org/docs/MSTV%20Comments%20on%20BPL%20NPRM%20(FINAL%20050304).pdf#search='national%20association%20of%broadcasters%20%20B.P.L'
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 09:07:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [MODIFIED:] THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060217181332.65089.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218160656.10131.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
MODIFIED:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
If you want good news, then why do you insist on presenting us
with the bad news about Tulsa?
THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
THERE IS ALSO THE SONG, BY COUNTRY MUSIC
ARTIST, GEORGE STRAIGHT, CALLED: TELL ME
SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TULSA.
WELL THAT SONG IS 100% ACCURATE RIGHT..!
TULSA, FOR THE MOST PART, IS NEVERENDING
BAD NEWS, FOR MOST ALL OF US WHO HAVE
TO LIVE HERE..!
LET'S HAVE GOOD NEWS PERMENENTLY, FOR
A CHANGE..!
AND LET'S CLEAN UP THIS WASTELAND TOWN,
FOLKS..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 09:08:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [MODIFIED:] THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060217181332.65089.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218160841.36842.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
MODIFIED:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
If you want good news, then why do you insist on presenting us
with the bad news about Tulsa?
THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
THERE IS ALSO THE SONG, BY COUNTRY MUSIC
ARTIST, GEORGE STRAIGHT, CALLED: TELL ME
SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TULSA.
WELL THAT SONG IS 100% ACCURATE RIGHT..!
TULSA, FOR THE MOST PART, IS NEVERENDING
BAD NEWS, FOR MOST ALL OF US WHO HAVE
TO LIVE HERE..!
LET'S HAVE GOOD NEWS PERMENENTLY, FOR
A CHANGE..!
AND LET'S CLEAN UP THIS WASTELAND TOWN,
FOLKS..!
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From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sat Feb 18 10:35:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 50
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THE MAJORITY OF TULSA IS BAD NEWS..!
THERE IS ALSO THE SONG, BY COUNTRY MUSIC
ARTIST, GEORGE STRAIGHT, CALLED: TELL ME
SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TULSA.
WELL THAT SONG IS 100% ACCURATE RIGHT..!
TULSA, FOR THE MOST PART, IS NEVERENDING
BAD NEWS, FOR MOST ALL OF US WHO HAVE
TO LIVE HERE..!
LET'S HAVE GOOD NEWS PERMENENTLY, FOR
A CHANGE..!
AND LET'S CLEAN UP THIS WASTELAND TOWN,
FOLKS..!
Dude, when is the last time you went on a date or got laid? I think that would help you immensely.
Or do you believe that all women in Tulsa are evil stepford-wife, mind-controlled , government-agent zombies?
Quit posting links about lighning and radios and use your time online to go on Yahoo personals.
Seriously, you need to get a life and quit ranting like a paranoid schizophrenic. You have too much free time to be wasting it typing song lyrics. Go to a gym, jog, eat a good meal, watch a movie - in other words quit your childish rant about Tulsa, grow the fuck up and deal with it. You sound like a whiny little kid. Time to mature and be a man.
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 12:15:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
In-Reply-To: <20060218141519.32192.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 18, 2006 06:15:19 AM
Message-ID: <20060218191457.65172.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
> > an open mind.
> Those of use who understand the technology, who have used some of
> it, find your statements do not make sense.
>
> WHAT EVER..!
>
> IT'S NO GOOD TRYING TO ARGUE A POINT, WHEN THE
> DECK IS STACKED FOR FAILURE..!
A good argument is worth it for it's own sake... _IF_ the logic and
facts are strong. Here, the facts don't support your main conjectures.
> YOU DON'T LIVE IN TULSA; ETC.....
Living up here, Tulsa looks like a wonderful, wonderful place I'd
love to be able to live in. Civilization, Electricity! Running water!
Hot water heaters!!! And neighbors who are not inebriated skunks.
Mostly, neighbors who are not inebriated skunks; but the hot water is
very attractive too.
(The air pollution would get me... sigh. All because we switched
to Gasohol. Though it is better than MTBE. But did you hear me rage
against Gasohol, Clyde? Do you hear me scream about the evils of
urea-formaldehyde foam insulation, which is what injured me? We all
know that one already, it's illegal to use. Do you hear me scream about
acetaldehyde generation, which is two and a half times higher and
nitrous oxides which are half again higher with Gasohol??? No. Very
few of us are affected by it, probably under 10,000 in the USA have been
chemically injured the way I have been. We chemical cripples don't
count, compared to Civilization. Most of us are sensible enough that we
don't want to destroy civilization or the freedom that the infernal
combustion engine brings us and the rest of America. We put up with it
as best we can for the sake of the others, and for the sake of
Civilization, which we do enjoy, though mostly indirectly. We care
about this country, and the people in it, for they are our friends and
relatives.)
> I'VE GOT NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE ANYTHING, I GUESS..!
Clyde, if you don't find evidence of A, sometimes it's because you
are not looking for the right thing. It might be C, which you had not
anticipated.
Science is full of that. It's called Serendipity. If you are
charging ahead so hard on A, you won't see C. You need to relax, to
re-assess what you are doing from time to time.
> JUST THAT MY ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS
> ALL SCREWED UP, AND THAT THE GOVERMENT AND
> THE MEDIA ARE FUCKING WITH ME..!
I think the two parts of your statement are not related. Yes, we
can see your nervous system is not working well. No, the government and
media are not the cause of it.
We accept you as a mad scientist and a human being, Clyde. We just
don't appreciate you continuing to rant and rave about what we know
can't be true. We like you as a human being; we'd just wish you'd take
your blinders off and see the whole of what is in Tulsa, not just the
bad. It would make you a better person.
While I see now that BPL is a problem for someone who's trying to
be a micro-broadcaster, it's not aimed specifically at you, Clyde. They
don't care about you. They just see money at the end of some tunnel, and
so are trying to drive their steam locomotive slowly toward that money,
suffocating everything in that tunnel. It's not you, Clyde. They don't
care about you. Don't take it personally. Don't assume that everyone has
the same way of looking at things you are.
And if you can't be a micro-broadcaster, maybe... just maybe... you
can find something else to be. An internet broadcaster? A web site?
But most important, Clyde, you need to laugh at yourself. To laugh
at where you are in life. And after the laugher, to look more
realistically at where you are, what you can do; and from that, create a
new set of goals. Not hard goals like permanent peace for all; but
flexible goals for yourself. You're important to you, Clyde. You need
to look at yourself, at how you can be a little happier with life as
well as keeping others happy.
We do care about you, Clyde. So relax, and don't keep sending us
the same stuff we've already heard about. Ok?
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 18 13:35:28 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 13:35:35 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Self and Non-Self
Message-ID: <20060218203528.8260.qmail@mall-net.com>
There's a fascinating article in Time Magazine about a new branch
of Psychotherapy that's nonsense... functional working nonsense! A
better nonsense than what I've seen so far. (I was married to a psycho
psych briefly.)
I keep thinking that the most important sense of being human is to
be able to laugh at yourself.
This takes it one step further. Kind of toward the Sufi message of
be in the world but not of it. Detachment. Many psychologists view
this a bad. But what if it were a valid defense mechanism? What if
sometimes it is good? What if, as in being able to step aside and laugh
at yourself, you could step aside and look at yourself as having an
emotion, rather than being inside that emotion? And then deal with it
appropriately.
Like our friend Clyde, "The government is harassing me with BPL!"
turning around and saying to himself "I am having the sense that the
government is harassing me with BPL." and adding that it may or may not
be true. And he, and us, accepting that he is having that sense.
(Could you try looking at it that way, Clyde?)
I think that's the way a lot of us scientists view things. It
seems that X is true. Is it really? Or does it just seem that way?
And why do I think this way? What are my perceptions, my recollections
that make me think this way? And not penalize ourselves for being wrong.
(Because boy, can we be wrongggg!!! But when we scientists see we are,
we figure out what we did or thought wrong, and find out what is better.
Better... we don't always know what's right when we see it.)
The brain is a society of functional centers, according to a famed
computer brainiac named Marvin Minsky. Each center triggers when it
sees a match. Judgement comes from the higher part which assesses
whether this or that view is in keeping with the larger picture. ("The
Society of the Mind", Marvin Minsky.)
And that judgement, like the centers, is not always right.
We need to accept that. That's why my motto at work has long been
"I don't have to be right. But when I sign off on it, it has to work." I
accept that I often get the initial impression wrong. I keep looking,
keep reassessing my impressions against the logic and experiential
history. And with that, often see how to get from A to Z despite all
the obstacles in the way. Even when some of the obstacles would cause
others to turn in a very different direction.
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1156613,00.html
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 18 13:58:53 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 13:58:57 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fear and Harassment
Message-ID: <20060218205854.23840.qmail@mall-net.com>
That psych thing reminded me of a wonderful piece I read long ago:
The Bene Gesserit Littainy against Fear.
Pg 19 of Dune
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
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Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 15:17:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 15:17:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 50
In-Reply-To: <20060218173444.20454.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060218221745.16627.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
j s < creolescience@yahoo.com > wrote:
Dude, when is the last time you went on a date
or got laid?
I think that would help you immensely.
INFINITE LIFETIMES AGO.
Or do you believe that all women in Tulsa are evil
stepford-wife, mind-controlled, government-agent
zombies?
HA HA..!
I DON'T LIKE SEX; AT ALL..!
SEX HAS DONE TREMENDOUS HARM TO MY
PSYCE..!
Quit posting links about lighning
LIGHNING OR LIGHTNING..?
and radios
AND RADIOS.....
and use your time online to go on Yahoo personals.
OK; THAT USED TO BE THE MAJORITY OF HOW
I WOULD SPEND MY INTERNET TIME; THOUGH
IT DID NOT GET ME VERY FAR TOWARD DOING
HANDS ON EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE PROJECTS.
IT STILL SEEMS AS THOUGH MONEY WAS A
PROBLEM BACK THEN, AS MUCH AS IT IS A
PROBLEM IN THE HERE AND NOW.
MONEY..!
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF MONEY.
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF MONEY.
I THOUGHT I ALREADY MENTIONED THE ISSUE
OF MONEY ALREADY.
I'M SEEING BOTH DOUBLE VISION IN TULSA TIME,
AND AM HEARING ECHOES IN TULSA TIME..!
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF TIME.
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF TIME.
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF SPACE.
THERE IS THE ISSUE OF SPACE.
ROOM TO BE CREATIVE; AND ROOM TO GROW -
ROOM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE..!
TOO BAD THAT SUCH A WAY OF LIFE ISN'T THE
WAY OF LIFE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
Seriously, you need to get a life and quit ranting like a
paranoid schizophrenic.
OK.
You have too much free time to be wasting it
typing song lyrics.
SONG LYRICS AREN'T EVERYTHING..!
THAT IS THE REASON WHY THERE IS FAR
MORE TO WHAT I HAVE POSTED THAN JUST
SONG LYRICS ALONE..!
Go to a gym, jog, eat a good meal, watch a movie -
in other words quit your childish rant about Tulsa,
CHILDISH RANT..?
I DON'T THINK SO..!
grow the fuck up and deal with it.
WHAT IS THERE TO DEAL WITH THAT I
HAVE NOT ALREADY DEALT WITH..?
TULSA IS PLAIN AS DAY: A HELLHOLE ON
EARTH; INSANITY AT ITS MOST ABSOLUTE
EXTREME; THAT'S ALL..!
LIFE HERE, IS JUST NO GOOD..!
You sound like a whiny little kid.
YOU SOUND LIKE A JERK..!
AND IT MAY COME ACROSS THAT WAY, OF
MYSELF SOUNDING LIKE A WHINY LITTLE KID;
BUT ANGER IS WHAT I AM REALLY EXPRESSING
TOWARD THIS WASTELAND TOWN THAT
VERY LITTLE TO NEVER IMPROVES IN THE
QUALITY OF LIFE..!
Time to mature and be a man.
THE MEASURE OF A MAN..!
ENDURANCE OF ALL OF THE PAIN THAT
THE PEOPLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA FEEL;
THE WEIGHT OF THE TULSA WORLD ON MY
BACK; WITH MY SPINE NEARLY BROKEN..!
IS THAT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MAN..?
OR HOW ABOUT BLUDGEONING SOMEONE
IN THE FACE UNTIL THEY ARE DEAD;
A PERSON OUT THERE WHO IS TOTALLY
DESERVING OF IT..?
PERFECT AVENGE AND REVENGE ON
EVERYONE WHO HAVE DONE WRONG TO
BOTH MYSELF, AND TO OTHERS..!
GRANTED THOUGH; WITH THE MERCY OF
JESUS CHRIST GIVING THEM AN OVERDOSE
OF MORPHINE TO DEAL WITH THEIR PAIN
AND SUFFERING THAT THEY FEEL..!
OR CAN YOU IMAGINE; CAN YOU PICTURE
AT ALL, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE A STAB
WOUND, DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CENTER
OF YOUR BROKEN HEART..?
TRY IMAGINING THAT; AND VISUALIZE HOW
THAT WOULD FEEL; BASTARD..!
EVERYONE SHOULD PICTURE HOW THAT
FEELS..!
HOW MUCH ABSOLUTE PAIN DOES THERE
HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, IN A BROKEN HEART,
WITH KNIVES GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH
THE VERY CENTER CORE..!
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 15:25:21 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Sat Feb 18 15:25:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fear and Harassment
In-Reply-To: <20060218205854.23840.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218222521.91202.qmail@web51014.mail.yahoo.com>
Javilk,
I learned a shorter version:
I will not fear
fear is the mind-killer,
the little death that brings total oblivion
I will allow my fear to pass over me, through me
and when it has gone, nothing exists,
only I remain
I learned that quicker version during a thunderstorm
at pennsic...
Bob
--- javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> That psych thing reminded me of a wonderful piece I
> read long ago:
>
> The Bene Gesserit Littainy against Fear.
> Pg 19 of Dune
>
> I must not fear.
> Fear is the mind-killer.
> Fear is the little-death that brings total
> obliteration.
> I will face my fear.
> I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
> And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye
> to see its path.
> Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
> Only I will remain.
>
>
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
> Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
>
> Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
>
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> where
> prohibited by law. Not available in all mental
> states.
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 15:49:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 15:49:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BEING UNDER BOTH B.P.L. HARRASSMENT AND UNDER
In-Reply-To: <20060218191457.65172.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218224944.27035.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> > You should try to learn more about the technologies while keeping
> > an open mind.
> Those of use who understand the technology, who have used some of
> it, find your statements do not make sense.
>
> WHAT EVER..!
>
> IT'S NO GOOD TRYING TO ARGUE A POINT, WHEN THE
> DECK IS STACKED FOR FAILURE..!
A good argument is worth it for it's own sake... _IF_ the logic and
facts are strong. Here, the facts don't support your main conjectures.
TOO BAD THAT I CANNOT ARGUE EFFECTIVELY, TO PROVE
YOU WRONG.
> YOU DON'T LIVE IN TULSA; ETC.....
Living up here, Tulsa looks like a wonderful, wonderful place I'd
love to be able to live in. Civilization, Electricity! Running water!
Hot water heaters!!! And neighbors who are not inebriated skunks.
Mostly, neighbors who are not inebriated skunks; but the hot water is
very attractive too.
YES; OK.
IN MY LIFE; I JUST WANT TO HAVE PERMANENT PEACE AND
QUIET; LIVING LIFE IN HARMONY; A LIFE AND REALITY WHERE
CREATIVITY IS NOT ENDLESSLY STIFLED BY OVERZONING
ORDINANCES; OVERTAXING ORDINANCES; AND BEING
OVERWORKED ETC.. WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
(The air pollution would get me... sigh.
YES.
All because we switched
to Gasohol. Though it is better than MTBE.
OK.
But did you hear me rage
against Gasohol, Clyde?
YES.
Do you hear me scream about the evils of
urea-formaldehyde foam insulation, which is what injured me?
YES.
We all
know that one already, it's illegal to use. Do you hear me scream about
acetaldehyde generation, which is two and a half times higher and
nitrous oxides which are half again higher with Gasohol??? No. Very
few of us are affected by it, probably under 10,000 in the USA have been
chemically injured the way I have been. We chemical cripples don't
count, compared to Civilization.
SO WE ARE UNDER THE CATEGORY OF VETERANS.
CHEMICALLY INJURED VETERANS.
THAT IS HOW IT APPEARS TO BE TO ME.
Most of us are sensible enough that we
don't want to destroy civilization or the freedom that the infernal
combustion engine brings us and the rest of America. We put up with it
as best we can for the sake of the others, and for the sake of
Civilization, which we do enjoy, though mostly indirectly. We care
about this country, and the people in it, for they are our friends and
relatives.)
YES.
> I'VE GOT NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE ANYTHING, I GUESS..!
Clyde, if you don't find evidence of A, sometimes it's because you
are not looking for the right thing. It might be C, which you had not
anticipated.
YES....
Science is full of that. It's called Serendipity. If you are
charging ahead so hard on A, you won't see C.
You need to relax, to re-assess what you are doing from time to time.
TOTAL RELAXATION; FAR FAR - INFINITELY FAR AWAY
FROM TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
> JUST THAT MY ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS
> ALL SCREWED UP, AND THAT THE GOVERMENT AND
> THE MEDIA ARE FUCKING WITH ME..!
I think the two parts of your statement are not related.
NO; THEY ARE SOMEWHAT RELATED; THOUGH NOT
TOTALLY 100% ABSOLUTELY RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER.
Yes, we
can see your nervous system is not working well. No, the government and
media are not the cause of it.
RIGHT..!
I HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLYING THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND
THE MEDIA ARE THE CAUSE OF IT; IT HAS TO DO WITH
LIFE GROWING UP; AND TULSA......
We accept you as a mad scientist and a human being, Clyde. We just
don't appreciate you continuing to rant and rave about what we know
can't be true. We like you as a human being; we'd just wish you'd take
your blinders off and see the whole of what is in Tulsa, not just the
bad. It would make you a better person.
I SEE THE BAD IN TULSA, BECAUSE TULSA VERY RARELY
GETS ANY BETTER.
LOT'S OF HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE STREETS; LOT'S OF
SMALL BUSINESS FOLKS ALWAYS BARELY SCRAPING BY;
WHILE THE C.E.O.'S OF THE IMPERIAL SKYSCRAPERS FINE
DINE AND WINE, ND TALK ABOUT IMPROVEMENT OF THE
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM; THOUGH NEVER REALLY MUCH
PROGRESS THERE..!
While I see now that BPL is a problem for someone who's trying to
be a micro-broadcaster,
YES.
it's not aimed specifically at you, Clyde.
IT IS A MONEY ISSUE.....
They don't care about you.
AND THEY DO CARE ABOUT ME; DUE TO THE TREMENDOUS HELL
THAT I HAVE RAISED; STIRRIN' IT UP HERE IN TULSA; THOUGH
I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY LIKED STIRRING THINGS UP; EVEN
THOUGH IT WAS GETTING TO WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE DONE,
TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OR SOMETHING; DOING WHAT
LITTLE BIT THAT I CAN, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS TOWN.
They just see money at the end of some tunnel,
YEAH; AND THE TULSA RADIO MEDIA ARE LOVING EVERY MINUTE
OF WHAT I AM DOING, BEHIND THE SCENES; BECAUSE I
HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM IDEAS; AND MAKING THEM MORE
MONEY..!
THOUGH ON THE OTHER HAND, NOT BENEFITTING MYSELF VERY
MUCH; FINANCIALLY.
and so are trying to drive their steam locomotive slowly toward that money,
suffocating everything in that tunnel. It's not you, Clyde.
YES: SUFFOCATING ME TOO.
They don't care about you.
YES THEY DO; I HAVE HELPED PULL K.M.O.D. AND K.F.A.Q.
THROUGH THE GREAT DIVIDE..!
I HAVE HELPED STIMULATE THE CHRISTIAN BROADCAST
STATIONS AS WELL.
Don't take it personally. Don't assume that everyone has
the same way of looking at things you are.
TAKE WHAT PERSONALLY?
And if you can't be a micro-broadcaster, maybe... just maybe... you
can find something else to be. An internet broadcaster? A web site?
YEAH; MY OWN WEBSITE WOULD BE A VERY COOL THING.
THOUGH I DO NOT KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT COMPUTER
SCIENCE, AND THE LIKES, TO BUILD MY OWN WEBSITE.
But most important, Clyde, you need to laugh at yourself.
LAUGHING HAS BECOME A VERY VERY DIFFICULT THING
TO DO.
JUST EMOTIONAL EMPTINESS, APART FROM THE OVERWHELMING
STRESS THAT I FEEL, MOSTLY, IN WHAT MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER
TO BE CALLED LIFE..!
To laugh
at where you are in life. And after the laugher, to look more
realistically at where you are, what you can do; and from that, create a
new set of goals. Not hard goals like permanent peace for all; but
flexible goals for yourself. You're important to you, Clyde. You need
to look at yourself, at how you can be a little happier with life as
well as keeping others happy.
We do care about you, Clyde. So relax, and don't keep sending us
the same stuff we've already heard about. Ok?
OK........
THOUGH, I LEAVE THIS E-MAIL WITH THE QUESTION:
DOES TULSA OKLAHOMA GET ANY BETTER; OR
DOES IT REMAIN THE SAME OLD FOREVER GO
NOWHERE FAST WASTELAND THAT IT IS..????????.......
LATER; CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 15:56:45 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 18 15:56:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Self and Non-Self.
In-Reply-To: <20060218203528.8260.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060218225645.28960.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Like our friend Clyde,
"The government is harassing me with BPL!"
turning around and saying to himself
"I am having the sense that the government is harassing
me with BPL."
CONTRADICTING MYSELF.....
and adding that it may or may not be true.
And he, and us, accepting that he is having that sense.
(Could you try looking at it that way, Clyde?)
YES.
I AM NOT A MILLIONAIRE OR A BILLIONAIRE; AND
SO I DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVEST
FINANCIAL RESOURCES INTO A SPY VS. SPY
TYPE OF SCENARIO.
AND EVEN IF I DID HAVE A MILLION OR A BILLION;
I WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY KEEP MY LIPS
SEALED ABOUT A TOP SECRET COVERT TECHNOLOGY
SUCH AS B.P.L. , SO THAT I COULD MAKE LOADS
OF MONEY OFF OF THE AMERICAN IDEOCY OF
THE MASSES OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND THE
COMMERICIALISTIC CRAP PROPAGANDA THAT WE
ARE ALL "FORCE"FED EVERYDAY; WITHOUT EXCEPTION..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 18 18:21:54 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 18:21:59 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Self and Non-Self.
In-Reply-To: <20060218225645.28960.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 18, 2006 02:56:45 PM
Message-ID: <20060219012154.66354.qmail@mall-net.com>
> "The government is harassing me with BPL!"
> turning around and saying to himself
>
> "I am having the sense that the government is harassing
> me with BPL."
>
> CONTRADICTING MYSELF.....
No, Clyde, just accepting that some part of you feels that way for
some reasons; but that it might not actually be so -- and that to keep
functional, maybe you have to set that feeling aside.
> (Could you try looking at it that way, Clyde?)
>
> YES.
> I AM NOT A MILLIONAIRE OR A BILLIONAIRE; AND
> SO I DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVEST
> FINANCIAL RESOURCES INTO A SPY VS. SPY
> TYPE OF SCENARIO.
That path would not be a healthy one to go down. I remember reading
a certain series of books on retaliatory operations. It rapidly became
clear to me, that retaliatory operations would utterly consume a person in
obsession and seemingly justifiable paranoia till the both party's real
lives were lost.
> AND EVEN IF I DID HAVE A MILLION OR A BILLION;
> I WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY KEEP MY LIPS
> SEALED ABOUT A TOP SECRET COVERT TECHNOLOGY
> SUCH AS B.P.L. , SO THAT I COULD MAKE LOADS
> OF MONEY OFF OF THE AMERICAN IDEOCY OF
> THE MASSES OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND THE
> COMMERICIALISTIC CRAP PROPAGANDA THAT WE
> ARE ALL "FORCE"FED EVERYDAY; WITHOUT EXCEPTION..
But there is no way, other than selling internet connectivity, to
use BPL to make money. The blocking of micro-broadcasting is an
incidental, particularly where micro-broadcasters are not selling
advertising on their services, and hence are not directly impacting the
advertising revenues of others.
When I was watching my blood pressure, I would note that some things
set me off. But the other side of me would also note that there were
always other possible interpretations of the facts and appearances
before me. Second guessing myself, I guess they call it. Second guesses
are useful only if you take the time to look at both positions and see
HOW one can tell which one is more likely to be the case. And then do
so.
Our brains are quite limited in what they can do, what they can
remember. So it is always worth it to ask "how else", "what else" and
such questions that we more consciously strive to get a fuller picture of
what is going on around us.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 20:18:05 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sat Feb 18 20:18:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 52
In-Reply-To: <20060218224951.6EA5D39870@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060219031805.80152.qmail@web36109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
YOU SOUND LIKE A JERK..!
AND IT MAY COME ACROSS THAT WAY, OF
MYSELF SOUNDING LIKE A WHINY LITTLE KID;
BUT ANGER IS WHAT I AM REALLY EXPRESSING
TOWARD THIS WASTELAND TOWN THAT
VERY LITTLE TO NEVER IMPROVES IN THE
QUALITY OF LIFE..!
I am a jerk sometimes, but I also am not consumed with anger. Anger without outlet is self destructive ( which I think you should know all too well since it is your daily life experience.). Being angry punishes no one but yourself, so chose to be detached or neutral to the things that you can't change, since you continually say that you can't change them.
" you will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished BY your anger."
Buddha
change the way way you see things, and the things you see will change.
Wayne Dyer
the quality of your life is the quality of your communication. what is it you are continually communicating to yourself and others? Anger ? Misery? Gee whiz, now why wouldn't some hot babe want to be around that?! That sounds like such pleasant company - I looove being around miserable people with a defeatist attitude and an excuse for why something will never work. Sounds like so much fun to be around!
Do you have alot of friends? If not, what do you think you are doing to nurture that? if your current approach isn't working then change the approach. If you keep doing things the same way why would you expect differant results. Its pure logic. Supposedly you are a scientist so why not apply some to your life?
I, the jerk, Have spoken.
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 21:56:42 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 52
In-Reply-To: <20060219031805.80152.qmail@web36109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 18, 2006 07:18:05 PM
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> " you will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished BY your anger."
> Buddha
>
> change the way way you see things, and the things you see will change.
> Wayne Dyer
These are two extremely useful sayings!
The first is true in the sense that adrenaline, a key component in
true anger, narrows the mind till one becomes blind to alternatives and
thus does stupid things harming oneself.
The second is because as you move yourself around the "process" you
are looking at, you develop different perspectives. The depth of
perecption in your mind lets you see more alternatives.
We may postulate a third saying:
You become what you communicate.
First, you are seen as what you communicate. Thereby, you attract
more of what you communicate. And as you attract more of what you
communicate, the spaces and channels whereby you receive different
communications diminishes. You also become habituated to that
communication, and so stop trying to change it.
One example, is Hollywood actors afraid of being typecast if they
have too great a role. Bad career move.
> the quality of your life is the quality of your communication.
That too, is a useful statement.
Life is an art of balance. When the balance fails, you fall into
some hole of excess, and life ceases to be beautiful. Indeed, you cease
to see life from the pinnacle upon which you once balanced.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 03:36:27 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 03:36:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TESLA AND THE TESLA SHIELD.
Message-ID: <20060219103627.38338.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
TESLA:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Nikola_Tesla
THE TESLA SHIELD:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/teshield.txt
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 05:44:55 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sun Feb 19 05:45:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] actual science
In-Reply-To: <20060218224951.6EA5D39870@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060219124455.67366.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I have decided to start making a concerted effort to alter the types of messages that are being exchanged here by stepping up to the plate and putting up interesting, science based articles and research which will be hopefully of interest to all
My first in a series:
Corey Binns
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com Fri Feb 17, 9:00 PM ET
ST. LOUIS?Straight out of the womb, infants are just as aroused by a rhesus monkey call as by human speech.
Infants are acute listeners. Previous studies have found newborns perk up more to folk music than white noise. And four-month-olds like listening to people talk more than they like white noise.
But when it comes to sounds made by all things biological, newborn babies don't discriminate.
The finding was presented here Friday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science by Athena Vouloumanos, a psychologist at McGill University.
Surprise
In light of other research the results are surprising.
For instance, scientists have seen changes in fetal heart rates when its mother talks, which suggests the fetus reacts to hearing the mother's voice.
The recent findings imply that an infant's first preference for sounds comes not just from experiences it had while inside the womb. Rather, a baby's listening skills might be honed to human speech during the first few months of life outside the womb.
"It was very shocking," Vouloumanos told LiveScience. "I thought for sure that they would prefer the human speech. I kept testing more babies because I couldn't believe it."
The McGill research group measured a newborn's level of interest in sounds by giving them sterilized pacifiers that measured the frequency and intensity of the baby's sucking.
"There are all kinds of suckers: soft suckers, hard, rapid and slow. When they suck hard, they get to hear a sound, and when they're aroused they suck hard," Vouloumanos said.
No preference
The team tested babies that were 10 to 96 hours old by playing recorded sounds of human speech and alternating with recordings of monkey calls. The researchers chose to use rhesus monkey calls because they have a similar vocal tract to humans.
The babies sucked the same for both sounds.
By three months, babies are aroused more by speech than monkey calls. The results indicate that we may be born with a broad preference for biological sounds, which gets rapidly fine-tuned for species-specific language.
"If these babies spent the first three months with rhesus monkeys, maybe they'd prefer monkey calls," Vouloumanos said.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 06:55:28 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 06:55:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROKEN ARROW; OKLAHOMA; FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES;
CHOCTAWS; CREEKS; TULSA RACE RIOTS;
Message-ID: <20060219135529.37257.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM SO SICK OF THE TULSA OKLAHOMA 'CIVIL'
WAR THAT HAS GONE ON FOR SO LONG NOW..!
I WANT PERMENENT PEACE AND QUIET IN TULSA..!
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO HAVE LASTING PEACE
AND QUIET IN TULSA OKLAHOMA; AND NOT ALL
OF THE ENDLESS GOD DAMNED BICKERING
AND FIGHTING AMONGST OUR STUPID SELVES..!
CLYDE
BROKEN ARROW / BROKEN ARROW OKLAHOMA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Arrow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Arrow%2C_Oklahoma
OKLAHOMA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma
OKLAHOMA STATE FLAG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oklahoma
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Oklahoma_state_flag.png
THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes
CHOCTAWS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw
CREEKS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creek_%28people%29
CREEK WAR:
http://www.onelang.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Creek_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creek_War
BROKEN ARROW HISTORY:
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/about/our_history.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/city_partners_historical.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/museum_join.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/battle_creek.htm
http://www.custerbooks.com/Inventory.htm
TULSA RACE RIOTS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot
ALSUMA ["TULSA"] OKLAHOMA HISTORY:
http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/ok/alsuma.html
'NATIVE' AMERICAN CENSUS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_%28U.S._Census%29
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 07:04:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
Message-ID: <20060219140428.99768.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
1. ADDRESSES ECOLOGICAL, POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL
ISSUES.
2. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR
OUR FUTURE, UNLESS WE RESPOND NOW.
3. ROBERT HAOZOUS'S SCULPTURE, CREATED IN 1990,
IS TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE RESULTS OF
WESTERNIZATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AFTER CHRISTOPHER
COLUMBUS' ARRIVAL IN AMERICA; PARTICULARLY OF THE
DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD REPRESENTS CHAINS OF SUBMISSION
ON INDIANS, AFTER THEIR FIRST CONTACT WITH WESTERNERS,
500 YEARS AGO, AND SHOWS HUMAN FIGURES WITHOUT
HANDS, IN AN OVERPOPULATED ENVIRONMENT; AND A
SKY FILLED WITH A MASS OF AIRPLANES.
5. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD STANDS AT THE TOP, SYMBOLIZING
A THREATENED HOPE; AND BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE
WAS WELDED TOGETHER USING MILD STEEL; IT IS
CORRODING RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS
IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENT.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A 72.5 FOOT TALL, STEEL SCULPTURE,
BY SANTA FE NEW MEXICO ARTIST, ROBERT HAOZOUS, AS A
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
7. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS MADE FROM UNTREATED STEEL,
CORRODING AT A RATE OF TIME THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE
AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA
ENVIRONMENT.
8. THE SCULPTURE WAS BROUGHT TO TULSA OKLAHOMA,
VIA THE SANTA FE RAILROAD, FROM SANTA FE NEW MEXICO.
[THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM ARTICLES
FROM THE TULSA WORLD NEWSPAPER: MAY 3RD AND MAY
6TH, 1992; AND AUGUST 14TH, 1998.]
[ADDITIONAL:] BOB HAOZOUS'S ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A SILENT
COMMENTARY ON MAN'S LOVE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND OF THE
DESTRUCTIVENESS THAT CAN COME FROM THAT INFATUATION.
THE SURFACE OF THE SCULPTURE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
RUST, TO SHOW THE EFFECT OF TIME, AND THE EFFECT OF
THE ATMOSPHERE.
PHOTOS OF ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/2ca401ac-c242-4d36-9497-aafbb1c0a8e1.jpg
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/40156_200.jpg
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 19 11:06:28 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 19 11:06:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] actual science
In-Reply-To: <20060219124455.67366.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 19, 2006 04:44:55 AM
Message-ID: <20060219180628.37106.qmail@mall-net.com>
> But when it comes to sounds made by all things biological,
> newborn babies don't discriminate.
> By three months, babies are aroused more by speech than monkey calls.
> The results indicate that we may be born with a broad preference for
> biological sounds, which gets rapidly fine-tuned for species-specific language.
I remember one doctor saying that the limit of human intelligence is
the width of a woman's hips.
The newborn brain has to pass through the pelvic gap. (I forget
what that is called.) If the hips are too large, she can't walk
effectively, reducing her contribution to the tribe and family, and
raising her chances of being eaten by something. If the gap is too
small, the child's brain is squished too much, and so the offspring is
more likely to make fatal mistakes later in life. So evolution came up
with a compromise -- externalize development of the brain.
At about two or three, I think, there is a massive die-off of
cells in the brain, and new growth. More reorganization, I think around
7, and some closure on development just before puberty. I'd have to
look up the exact ages... though it no doubt varies with the individual
and with nutrition.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 11:49:32 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 11:49:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [SLIGHTLY MODIFIED:] BROKEN ARROW; OKLAHOMA;
FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES; CHOCTAWS; CREEKS; TULSA RACE RIOTS;
Message-ID: <20060219184932.31215.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
SLIGHTLY MODIFIED:
I AM SO SICK OF THE TULSA OKLAHOMA 'CIVIL'
WAR THAT HAS GONE ON FOR SO LONG NOW..!
I WANT PERMENENT PEACE AND QUIET IN TULSA..!
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO HAVE LASTING PEACE
AND QUIET IN TULSA OKLAHOMA; AND NOT ALL
OF THE ENDLESS GOD DAMNED BICKERING
AND FIGHTING AMONGST OUR STUPID SELVES..!
CLYDE
BROKEN ARROW / BROKEN ARROW OKLAHOMA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Arrow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Arrow%2C_Oklahoma
OKLAHOMA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma
OKLAHOMA STATE FLAG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oklahoma
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Oklahoma_state_flag.png
THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes
CHOCTAWS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw
CREEKS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creek_%28people%29
CREEK WAR:
http://www.onelang.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Creek_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creek_War
BROKEN ARROW HISTORY:
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/about/our_history.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/city_partners_historical.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/museum_join.htm
http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/our-citizens/quality_life/battle_creek.htm
http://www.custerbooks.com/Inventory.htm
http://www.community-guides.com/broken_arrow/history.html
TULSA RACE RIOTS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot
ALSUMA ["TULSA"] OKLAHOMA HISTORY:
http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/ok/alsuma.html
'NATIVE' AMERICAN CENSUS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_%28U.S._Census%29
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 11:50:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] DR. ROYAL RAYMOND RIFE.....
Message-ID: <20060219184940.27333.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
I WANT TO SEE DR. ROYAL RAYMOND RIFE TECHNOLOGY IN MASS
PRODUCTION, EQUAL FOR EVERYONE..! :
http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/history/rife.htm#rife
http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/history/rife.htm
HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002798.html
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002751.html
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 12:17:21 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sun Feb 19 12:17:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Orphanges stunt growth - study
In-Reply-To: <20060219185025.CA61B39875@kang.vjc.com>
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speaking of nutrition's impact on the developing child:
Orphanages stunt growth: study
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent Fri Feb 17, 1:10 PM ET
ST. LOUIS (Reuters) - Children raised in orphanages are stunted physically, emotionally and intellectually but good foster care can help orphans start to grow again, researchers said on Friday.
An experiment in which foster homes were set up in Romania showed that children taken out of the country's notorious orphanages began to grow taller and put on weight, gain intellectually and lose the most marked symptoms of depression and anxiety.
The researchers said their findings apply to all children in orphanages, not just in Romania. Their study, however, provided them a unique opportunity to examine the effects of foster care in a place where it had never existed before.
"An orphanage is a bad place for a child to grow up in," Dr Dana Johnson, a pediatrician and adoption specialist at the University of Minnesota, told a news conference.
Johnson and colleagues, funded by the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, did the first scientific comparison of what happens to children raised in orphanages versus those raised in foster care and children raised in normal families.
They persuaded the Romanian government to place 69 children in foster homes -- something that had not existed in Bucharest before. Another 67 had to remain in the orphanage and the researchers compared the two groups.
Social workers trained the foster families and checked on the children's progress.
"At age of entry, institutionalized children are doing very poorly compared to community controls," Dr. Nathan Fox of the University of Maryland told reporters.
"Their mean IQ score is close to the retarded range compared to community children and compared to standard norms. The good news is ... foster-care children showed increases in IQ at 42 and 54 months (4 1/2 years)."
Girls, especially, did well, Fox and colleagues told a meeting in St. Louis of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
"At the age of 42 months (3 1/2 years) there is a significant group difference between children who were placed into foster care and children who remained in institutions," Fox added.
TOO SAD TO EAT
Johnson found the children also grew very quickly in foster care.
"Children who are neglected or abused do not grow," Johnson said. They may not be fed properly, but also depressed children do not eat well, he said.
"You can predict in regular orphanages that you are going to lose one month of growth for every three months in the orphanage," Johnson said. "A three-year-old child will be the size of a two-year-old."
But, placed into foster care, they literally shoot up, Johnson said.
"By the time they have been in foster care for a year and a half, they had reached normal size in terms of height," he said. "I always tell the families not to buy many expensive clothes."
Johnson believes physical growth can be used as a way to measure a child's progress overall. Not everything dramatically improved in the foster children. Behavioral disorders, especially in boys, did not always disappear. And Dr. Charles Nelson of Harvard University found that brain scans did not change as dramatically as he had hoped among the children in foster care. His team had found that electroencephalograms, or EEG scans, done on institutionalized children were much different from those of children raised in families. The children are scanned while looking at pictures of human faces with various emotional expressions. "There is a diminution of brain activity," Nelson said. Foster care did not immediately improve this, although those children who spent the longest time in foster care did begin to show some improvement, he said. Dr. Charles Zeneah of Tulane University said the study might help governments come up with better ways to help children orphane
d or
abandoned due to wars, the AIDS epidemic and other scourges. "There has never been an institution, even in the West, that has been able to promote normal development, but there are interventions that can make it a more family-like environment," Zeneah said.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 12:23:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [FURTHER MODIFIED:] DR. ROYAL RAYMOND RIFE.....
Message-ID: <20060219192337.75003.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
FURTHER MODIFIED:
I WANT TO SEE DR. ROYAL RAYMOND RIFE TECHNOLOGY IN MASS
PRODUCTION: EQUAL FOR EVERYONE; AT THE MAYO CLINIC;
AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT THERE IS A MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT..! :
AMERICA'S HEALTH'CARE' SYSTEM HAS BECOME INSANE..!
____________________________________________________________________
ULTRA MICROSCOPES AND CURE RAYS [FROM THE BOOK:
LOST SCIENCE; BY:GERRY VASSILATOS:]
http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/history/rife.htm#rife
ULTRA MICROSCOPES AND CURE RAYS:
http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/history/rife.htm
BIOELECTRIC HEALING, ITS HISTORY, AND A RATIONALE FOR ITS
USEAGE:
http://www.alternativehealingtools.com/Lakhovsky/bioelectric.htm
NOVEL PRINCIPLES IN THE RIFE MICROSCOPE, AND RIFE'S GREAT
SECRET:
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/rifemicroscope.htm
THE TORTOISE SHELL'S SCIENCE OF HEALTH NEWSLETTER / WE
CAN PUT AN END TO ALL DISEASE ON THIS PLANET:
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/news.htm
HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002798.html
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002751.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 12:55:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS, AND AMERICANS:
Message-ID: <20060219195515.6966.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS,
AND AMERICANS:
WE THE PEOPLE, OF TULSA COUNTY
OKLAHOMA, AND OF ALL OF THE
SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, AND OF
ALL AMERICAN STATES; AS ALL
AMERICANS TOGETHER, HAVE GOT
TO START KEEPING ABSOLUTE TABS
ON THE CONTENT OF OUR TAP
WATER SUPPLIES - HOLDING
THOSE WHO WE PUT IN CHARGE OF
THE CARE AND OF THE DISTRIBUTION
OF OUR TAP WATER SUPPLIES, TO
THE MOST ABSOLUTE HIGHEST
ACCOUNTABILITY THAT IS POSSIBLE..!
EACH AND EVERY GOVERNING
OFFICIAL OF OURS IS HELD EQUALLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROCESS OF
SIMPLIFICATION - FOR THE PROCESS
OF MAKING KNOWN - THE DAILY,
WEEKLY, MONTHLY, AND ANNUAL
INTEGRITY OF OUR MUNICIPAL WATER
SUPPLIES - FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A PERMANENT HIGH INTEGRITY
HIGH QUALITY WATER STANDARD,
FOR EVERYONE OF ALL OF US -
EQUALLY..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 13:35:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA WATER QUALITY LINKS, AND OTHER.....
Message-ID: <20060219203533.10960.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
TULSA WATER QUALITY LINKS:
http://www.tulsawater.com/WLinks.html
PLANT EMPLOYEE FINDS FETUS IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT:
http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/arcsupply/2plaemp6.html
CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION / 1.1 ; WHAT IS SEWAGE SLUDGE? :
http://www.epa.gov/ORD/NRMRL/Pubs/1992/625R92013chap1.pdf#search='TULSA%20SEWAGE%20TREATMENT%20FACILITY.'
AFFILIATED WEBLINKS:
http://www.ou.edu/special/albertctr/archives/KerrInventory/KerrDept07.htm
http://www.ou.edu/special/albertctr/archives/KerrInventory/KerrCam12.htm
RIOT AND REMEMBRANCE:
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?texttype=excerpt&titlenumber=698153
SEPTIC SYSTEMS:
http://www.e-tulsa.net/watered/wastewater/septic.htm
HOW SEWER AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS WORK:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/sewer1.htm
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 14:11:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I STILL THINK THAT MUSLIMS AND JEWS SHOULD HAVE
PISS AND SHIT WARS WITH EACH OTHER..!
Message-ID: <20060219211148.41232.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
I STILL THINK THAT THE MUSLIMS AND
THE JEWS SHOULD HAVE TOTAL, ALL
OUT, PISS AND SHIT WARS WITH EACH
OTHER..!
PARTICULARLY THE MUSLIMS VERSUS
THE JEWS..!
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE MUSLIM
ARABS ARE A DICTATORIAL SOCIETY;
THE MUSLIMS ARE ALWAYS USED AS
SCAPEGOATS IN SO MANY OF THE
FUCKING DOMESTIC AND FUCKING
FOREIGN WARS THROUGHOUT THIS
FUCKING GOD DAMNED AND FUCKING
MAN DAMNED WORLD..!
BLASTING EACH OTHER WITH HIGH
POWERED SEWAGE SLUDGE - WITH
HIGH POWERED SUMP PUMPS - IN
COMBINATION WITH LARGE
FIREFIGHTER WATER HOSES - WOULD
HELP SOLVE MANY MANY PROBLEMS..!
I'M SICK OF THE JEWS, THE MUSLIMS,
THE CHRISITIANS, THE NAZI FASCIST
BUSHES; THE COMMIE COMMUNIST
CLINTONS; EVERYONE; FUCKING
AMERICA UP...!
AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD
COUNTRY TO LIVE IN - EQUAL FOR ALL
OF US - WITHOUT EXCEPTION..!
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 14:40:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ORAGENICS; TERRA-M; AND.....
Message-ID: <20060219214004.23528.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
ORAGENICS:
http://www.oragenics.com/
TERRA-M:
http://www.terra-m.com/
CAUGHT IN A DREAM LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002688.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 15:54:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERAS AND SPY CAMERAS.
Message-ID: <20060219225434.73632.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
MACHINE VISION MICRO CAMERAS:
http://www.avsupply.com/vis-microcameras.shtml
PELCO CAMERAS:
http://www.avsupply.com/pelco.shtml
CCTV COVERT CAMERAS:
http://www.avsupply.com/cc-covert.shtml
ELMO MICRO CAMERAS AND ACCESSORIES:
http://www.spytown.com/elmiccam.html
MICROSCOPY PRODUCTS FOR SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY:
http://www.pelcoint.com/
CAMERAS BY MANUFACTURER:
http://www.subtechnique.com/manufcameras.html
LASHEN ELECTRONICS:
http://www.lashen.com/vendors/elyssa
http://www.lashen.com/vendors/elyssa/cameras.asp
SPYTOWN SECURITY PRODUCTS SUPERSTORE:
http://www.spytown.com/
ROYAL SYSTEMS:
http://www.royalsystems.com/store/
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 16:02:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20060119114032.39111.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060219230158.48116.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf#search='LSI%20Quantum%20International%20%20Intersegmental%20traction%20tables
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Date: Sun Feb 19 16:12:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY AND.....
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INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY:
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf
http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf#search='LSI%20Quantum%20International%20%20Intersegmental%20traction%20tables
MIGHTY MOUSE LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002742.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 16:39:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SAVE US FROM OURSELVES; AND.....
Message-ID: <20060219233912.60059.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
SAVE US FROM OURSELVES:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002816.html
MIGHTY MOUSE LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002741.html
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 19 16:49:44 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE N.S.A. AND THEIR TRUE JOB FOR ALL OF US..!
Message-ID: <20060219234938.6556.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT IS THE TRUE JOB OF THE N.S.A.
ANYWAY..?
A NAZI DICTATORSHIP OVER THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERIKA..?
THE N.S.A. AND THE MEDIKAL
ESTABLISHMENT MUST BE ASKING
FOR AN UPRISING FROM WE THE
PEOPLE..!
BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST
INVOKED CIVIL WAR..!
http://www.nsa.gov/
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 18:21:35 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sun Feb 19 18:21:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] sounds like science to me!
Message-ID: <20060220012135.6296.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Breasts beautifully display women's sexual nature and attract whiskers2006/02/14
The unusual science sternomancy, the art of telling fortunes by the form of a female breast, appeared in Spain in the 18th century. Since that time, the science has considerably advanced, and today men can learn about women judging by the form of their breasts.
Fox? nose is bosom curved like a spring-board. Women with such bosoms have Nordic temper and keen brains. Ladies having this bosom shape are industrious as a rule which helps them become middle rank managers. It is infrequent that such women attain high positions in business. They are rather lazy to take the initiative. Women of the type easily adapt to living with any man that means they are good wives. It is important that women with fox nose bosoms are faithful wives who at the same time insatiable and rather inventive in bed.
A great number of women having even round bosom looking like an apple are frigid. It may take men much effort to make such women reach an orgasm. But women of the type are ready to try any posture in bed to make their men really happy. Such women do not like changing sex partners. Usually, these women get married in their early age and become obliging housewives. Often, these women turn out to be cleverer than their husbands.
Women with bosom resembling the pear shape are independent, willful and silly to some extent. At that, these characteristics help them to lead men by the nose. Marriage with such a woman guarantees wonderful sex and big rows.
Ladies with breasts of the triangular form are believed to be the most excitable and emancipated type. Nothing is forbidden in sex for them. They may have several sex partners a day. Women of the type usually become great actresses and masterly prostitutes.
Women whose bosom looks like an aubergine are full of love and enjoy their life. They are nice in every sphere of life. They wonderfully suit for the position of a storehouse director. But any men close to such a woman inevitably becomes a henpecked.
Girls with silicone busts are good for romantic traveling for a couple of days, but never for having a family. Majority of women with silicone breasts are subject to serious psychological problems: diffidence, fear of competition and narcissism. Sex with these girls turns out to be formal and not sensual. At that, many of silicone girls have rather high IQ.
Upstanding nipples are typical of generous, autocratic and dominating women. They love cunnilingus and position top on men.
Retracted small nipples reveal their owner is a calculating mind and is hiding her real intentions. These women believe there is nothing particular about sex but ready to fulfill any of men?s sex fantasies.
Rose-colored areas around nipples indicate a woman is tender, hearty and kind. Swarthy skin around nipples mean a woman is passionate and adventurous.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 19:07:53 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sun Feb 19 19:07:59 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
Message-ID: <20060220020753.19978.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
By ANDREW BRIDGES, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
ST. LOUIS - Humans risk being overrun by diseases from the animal world, according to researchers who have documented 38 illnesses that have made that jump over the past 25 years.
That's not good news for the spread of bird flu, which experts fear could mutate and be transmitted easily among people.
There are 1,407 pathogens ? viruses, bacteria, parasites, protozoa and fungi ? that can infect humans, said Mark Woolhouse of the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. Of those, 58 percent come from animals. Scientists consider 177 of the pathogens to be "emerging" or "re-emerging." Most will never cause pandemics.
Experts fear bird flu could prove an exception. Recent advances in the worldwide march of the H5N1 strain have rekindled fears of a pandemic. The virus has spread across Asia into Europe and Africa.
Controlling bird flu will require renewed focus on the animal world, including the chickens, ducks and other poultry that have been sacrificed by the tens of millions to stem the progress of the virus, experts said at a news conference late Sunday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
"The strategy has to be looking at how to contain it in the animal world, because once you get into the human side, you're dealing with vaccines and antiretrovirals, which is a whole new realm," said Nina Marano, a veterinarian and public health expert with the National Center for Infectious Diseases.
Bird flu has killed at least 91 people ? most of them in Asia ? since 2003, according to the World Health Organization. It appears to kill about half the people it infects. However, should it mutate so it can pass from human to human, it likely will grow far less deadly, said Dr. Stanley Lemon, of the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston.
"It is very unlikely that it would maintain that kind of case mortality rate if it made the jump," Lemon said.
Each year, one or two new pathogens and multiple variations of existing threats infect humans for the first time. That pace appears to be unsustainable in the long run because it would imply that people run the risk of being overrun, Woolhouse told reporters.
"Humans have always been attacked by novel pathogens. This process has been going on for millennia. But it does seem to be happening very fast in these modern times," Woolhouse said.
Woolhouse argues that either many of those diseases and other afflictions will not persist in humans or that there is something peculiar today allowing so many of them to take root in humans.
One explanation may be the recent and wide-scale changes in how people interact with the environment in a more densely populated world that is growing warmer and in which travel is faster and move extensive, Marano said. Those changes can ensure that pathogens no longer stay restricted to animals, she added. Examples from recent human history include SARS and other viruses.
That prospect leaves open the question of what future threats await humans.
"It always surprises us. We think that avian flu will be the next emerging disease. My guess is something else might come out before that," said Alan Barrett, of the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston. "It's very hard to anticipate what comes next."
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 07:21:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] COMPLEX [AUDIO / VIDEO / RADIO] SIGNAL DECIPHERING
TECHNOLOGY; ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE; ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.....
Message-ID: <20060220142048.53560.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
COMPLEX [AUDIO / VIDEO / RADIO] SIGNAL DECIPHERING
TECHNOLOGY:
http://members.aol.com/BoycottBrazil/BrazilByct/covert.html
http://www.iahf.com/nsa/20010214.html
http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/02-01-01/mbs.cgi.67.html
ELECTROENCEPHALAPHONE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalophone
http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Electroencephalogram
http://www.gurunet.com/cm-dsname-wikipedia-dsid-2222-letter-1E-first-8351
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
SYMBOLIC LINGUISTIC REPRESENTATION:
http://www.aaaah.org/wiki/en/sy/Symbolic%20linguistic%20representation.htm
ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TO SPEECH SYNTHESIS:
http://www.homeland-security-join.com/CHIPS.htm
http://www.homeland-security-join.com/techie.html
SPEECH SYNTHESIS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis
http://wagstaff.asel.udel.edu/speech/tutorials/synthesis/
http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/comp.speech/Section5/speechlinks.html
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/rhythmsp/ASA/Contents.html
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/rhythmsp/ASA/highlights.html
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/rhythmsp/ASA/AUfiles/33.AU
THE VODER OF HOMER DUDLEY:
http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/vocoder/
http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/vocoder/voder_diag.gif
http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/eecs20/speech/voder.html
http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~eal/audio/voder.html
BELL LABS TEXT TO SPEECH SYNTHESIS:
http://www.bell-labs.com/project/tts/tts-overview.html
EARLY SPEECH SYNTHESIS:
http://www.ling.su.se/staff/hartmut/kemplne.htm
http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/eecs20/speech/voder.html
http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~eal/audio/voder.html
http://www.algana.co.uK/FamousNames/D/dudley.htm
http://www.ling.ohio-state.edu/courses/materials/825/Klatt1987/Klattdemo.txt
http://www.mindspring.com/~ssshp/ssshp_cd/ss_tran4.htm
http://www.festvox.org/history/klatt.html
MAX HEADROOM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 08:56:01 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 08:56:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TOPICS OF SEARCH.....
Message-ID: <20060220155601.97632.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
TOPICS OF SEARCH:
TEXT TO SPEECH + [TEXT] TO ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM + TRANSLATION
SYNTHESIS / TEXT TO ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TRANSLATION / SYNTHESIS / ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TO SPEECH SYNTHESIS:
http://www.ee.uwa.edu.au/~roberto/research/SIPProjects2006.pdf#search='ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM%20TO%20SPEECH%20SYNTHESIS.'
http://www.ugres.ee.ucla.edu/projects.php?syear=2004
http://lsa2003.lin.msu.edu/faculty1.html
http://www.siu.edu/~dss/Grant/Technologies.htm
"THE TOWER OF BABEL":
http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/comp/babel.html
NEURONS, HORMONES, AND THE BRAIN:
http://cla.calpoly.edu:16080/~cslem/101/4-Glossary.html
TRYPTOPHAN DEPLETION AND ITS IMPLICATIONS FOR PSYCHIATRY:
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/178/5/399
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 09:19:15 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AUDIO SYNTHESIZER HISTORY;
VIDEO SYNTHESIZER HISTORY; AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENT HISTORY..!
Message-ID: <20060220161908.54649.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
120 YEARS OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC; ELECTRONIC MUSICAL
INSTRUMENTS; 1870 - 1990:
http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/
HISTORY OF ELECTRONIC AND COMPUTER MUSIC; INCLUDING
AUTOMATIC INSTRUMENTS AND COMPOSITION MACHINES:
http://eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/electronmedia/music/eamhistory.html
VIDEO SYNTHESIZERS AND THEIR HISTORY:
http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vsynths.htm
MUSIC HISTORY AND THE HISTORY BEHIND MUSICAL
INSTRUMENTS:
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blmusic.htm
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 10:00:46 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 10:00:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SAVE US FROM OURSELVES; AND.....
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SAVE US FROM OURSELVES:
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/2006-February/002816.html
MIGHTY MOUSE LYRICS [AGAIN..!]:
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 10:13:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS..!
Message-ID: <20060220171327.52778.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS..!
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 11:13:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERMANENT PEACE AND QUIET IN TULSA TOWN ;
AND CLEANING UP TULSA TOWN..!
Message-ID: <20060220181345.57995.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET PERMENENT PEACE AND QUIET
IN TULSA TOWN ; AND WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CLEAN UP
TULSA TOWN..? ..!
TULSA HISTORICAL SOCIETY:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/events/05JanNewsletter.htm
TULSA HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEMBERS:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/pasthofs.htm
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION PUBLIC
NOTICE TULSA NEWS INFORMATION / TULSA INCORPORATED:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Public_Notices/2000/pncb0014.txt
DAVID L. MOSS "CORRECTION" CENTER:
http://
TULSA RACE RIOT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot
REMEMBERING
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textype=excerpt&titlenumber=698153
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 12:19:29 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:19:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [COMPLETED EXPANSION:] PERMANENT PEACE AND QUIET
IN TULSA TOWN ; AND CLEANING UP TULSA TOWN..!
Message-ID: <20060220191930.98151.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
COMPLETED EXPANSION:
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET PERMENENT PEACE AND QUIET
IN TULSA TOWN ; AND WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CLEAN UP
TULSA TOWN..? ..!
TULSA HISTORICAL SOCIETY:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/events/05JanNewsletter.htm
TULSA HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEMBERS:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/pasthofs.htm
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION PUBLIC
NOTICE TULSA NEWS INFORMATION / TULSA INCORPORATED:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Public_Notices/2000/pncb0014.txt
DAVID L. MOSS "CORRECTION" CENTER:
http://www.pci.org/markets/markets.cfm?path=justice&id=DLM.cfm
http://www.morelaw.com/officials/officials.asp?f=Stanley&i=10&l=Glanz&z=74103&s=OK
http://www.douglashenderson.com/jail.htm
http://www.correctionscorp/news_release.cfm?news_id=47
http://www.trc.eku/aca/admin/Info.asp?state=OK
http://www.flpba.org/private/oklahoma.htm
http://www.ngway.com/?q=david-l-moss-in-tulsa
TULSA RACE RIOT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot
BANK OF OKLAHOMA WILLIAMS CENTER TOWERS:
http://www.williams.com/realestate/index.asp
http://www.douglashenderson.com/wiltowers.htm
CITYPLEX TOWERS:
http://www.cityplextowers.com/
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/printthread.php?t=7379
RIOT AND REMEMBERANCE:
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textype=excerpt&titlenumber=698153
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 12:22:34 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:22:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT;
POLITICAL CORRUPTION; AND GOVERNMENT..!
Message-ID: <20060220192234.69770.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_local_government
POLITICAL CORRUPTION:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption
GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:23:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT CONTACT INFORMATION FOR
EVERYONE..!
Message-ID: <20060220192332.89255.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT CONTACT INFOMATION FOR EVERYONE..!
http://www.nsa.gov/
http://www.fcc.gov/
http://www.fbi.gov/
http://www.cia.gov/
http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 12:24:07 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:24:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Scientists Dig Into Pile of Comet Dust
Message-ID: <20060220192408.98617.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Scientists Dig Into Pile of Comet Dust By ANDREW BRIDGES, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
ST. LOUIS - Scientists said Monday they have begun slicing and dicing the first of hundreds of microscopic specks of comet dust, virtually unchanged since the birth of the solar system, that a NASA spacecraft successfully returned to Earth in late January.
Preliminary analysis shows the dust, captured when the robotic Stardust spacecraft flew past the comet Wild 2 in January 2004, is unmistakably cometary in origin, said Don Brownlee, a University of Washington astronomer who is the principal scientist for the $212 million mission.
As such, the grains represent pristine samples of the primitive material that came together to form the sun, the nine planets and everything else in the solar system, including human beings.
"We believe materials coming out of comets now is the same material that went into comets 4.5 billion years ago," Brownlee told reporters at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science here.
The initial work on the samples shows they contain glassy materials, crystals like olivine and various trace elements, Brownlee said. Each tiny grain is being sliced, sometimes into hundreds of sections, for detailed analysis. Some grains are just four microns in diameter, meaning it would take 25 of them to equal the width of a human hair.
Eventually, each grain should tell scientists something about its birth billions of years ago in the wake of dying stars, as well as how they came together to form new stars.
"Dust, lowly dust, plays a very important role in both the birth of solar systems and the death of solar systems," said Lee Anne Willson, an Iowa State University astronomer.
The Stardust samples represent the first time a space mission has returned solid bits of extraterrestrial material since the manned Apollo 17 mission to the moon in 1972.
Direct study of the samples should allow astronomers, who can only peer on stars from afar, and astrophysicists, who are limited in what stellar processes they can recreate in the laboratory, to confirm hypotheses they've made about how things in the universe come together and fall apart, scientists said.
"Stardust is going to challenge the very guesses we've made," said Joe Nuth, an astrochemist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.
Stardust captured the comet samples in a material called aerogel, a silicon-based material that is 99.8 percent empty space. The particles left telltale tracks ? some shaped like carrots, others like turnips ? in the icecube-sized chunks of aerogel when they struck. Each particle can take hours to remove, including through the use of a computer-controlled needle that cuts around each track, Brownlee said.
"It's like taking a plug out of a watermelon," he said.
The first major science results from the Stardust mission are expected to be presented March 13-17 at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference outside Houston.
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 12:45:20 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:45:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT;
POLITICAL CORRUPTION; AND GOVERNMENT..!
In-Reply-To: <20060220192234.69770.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060220194520.79897.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
This list was supposed to be about mad science. Please
keep it to mad science.
for the love of god, man. use what you've learned from
mad science and either:
1.) learn to MacGuyver yourself a solution for living
in Tulsa.
-or-
2.) LEAVE TULSA! it's not a prison. they won't send
tracking teams to fetch you back. gather up money
(slowly if need be), pick a destination, and GO THERE!
Bob (who's starting to lose his patience...)
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT:
>
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_local_government
>
> POLITICAL CORRUPTION:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption
>
> GOVERNMENT:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
>
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 12:57:52 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 12:58:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MADNESS OVER TULSA TOWN..!
Message-ID: <20060220195752.79804.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
MADNESS OVER TULSA TOWN..!
TERROR IN THE STREETS:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A58161-2002Mar7?language=printer
RIOT AND REMEMBERANCE:
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?texttype=excerpt&titlenumber=698153
PEACEFUL TOMORROWS:
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/calendar.php?calid=232
THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OF ALSUMA UNION TULSA;
[IS IT ANY WONDER WHY PROGRESS AND SUCCESS
NEVER EVER LAST, IN THIS ENDLESS OVER
ORDINANCED HELL IN AMERICA..? ..!]:
http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/ok/alsuma.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 13:11:43 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 13:11:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT;
POLITICAL CORRUPTION; AND GOVERNMENT..!
In-Reply-To: <20060220194520.79897.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060220201143.99985.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
Clyde,
This list was supposed to be about mad science. Please
keep it to mad science.
YES; MAD SCIENCE IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO
DO IN TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
VERY VERY OVERSTRESSFUL..!
for the love of god, man. use what you've learned from
mad science and either:
1.) Learn to MacGuyver yourself a solution for living
in Tulsa.
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, IN THIS ABSOLUTELY
ENDLESS, ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED HELL IN
AMERICA / ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED HELL ON
PLANET EARTH..!
-or-
2.) LEAVE TULSA!
I'M READY TO MOVE OUT; THOUGH THERE ARE MANY
MANY PERSONAL BELONGINGS THAT I WILL HAVE TO
LEAVE BEHIND, WHEN I LEAVE..!
It's not a prison. They won't send tracking teams to fetch
you back.
YEAH; THAT'S NOT THE ENTIRE IDEA; IT IS THE IMPERIALIST
FASCIST CORPORATE, AND COMMUNIST CORPORATE
STATE THAT TULSA AND OKLAHOMA CITY ARE..!
gather up money
(slowly if need be), pick a destination, and GO THERE!
YES; THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE SO..!
Bob (who's starting to lose his patience...)
YOU DON'T KNOW MY LACK OF PATIENCE RIGHT NOW..!
--- clyde lofton wrote:
CORRUPTION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_local_government
POLITICAL CORRUPTION:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption
GOVERNMENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 13:14:46 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 13:14:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB.
Message-ID: <20060220201446.59874.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
BOB,
IF NOT A FAIR AND CLEAN GOVERNMENT FOR TULSA
OKLAHOMA; THEN MANY MANY OF US HERE, ARE AT
LEAST IN TOTAL DESPERATE NEED OF A FAIR
GOVERNMENT, LIVING IN THIS WASTELAND EMPIRE..!
CLYDE
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 13:52:23 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 20 13:53:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB.
In-Reply-To: <20060220201446.59874.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060220205223.83536.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
1.) the point is: I'm getting a little tired of non
mad science clogging my mailbox
2.) if you hate tulsa so much, either try and fix it,
or leave the place. whining about it doesn't help.
You want to talk about a bad situation? try this:
-5 bookstores in a 75 mile radius
-mold was considered a major cause of death
-3% incidence of recessive traits (read: heavy
inbreeding)
-some houses were on the market for 10 years straight.
-5 out of 10 young ladies below the age of 14 had
their first child
You don't like tulsa? THEN LEAVE TULSA!!!
staying around and whining about won't fix anything.
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> BOB,
>
> IF NOT A FAIR AND CLEAN GOVERNMENT FOR TULSA
> OKLAHOMA; THEN MANY MANY OF US HERE, ARE AT
> LEAST IN TOTAL DESPERATE NEED OF A FAIR
> GOVERNMENT, LIVING IN THIS WASTELAND EMPIRE..!
>
> CLYDE
>
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 14:10:44 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 14:10:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB.
In-Reply-To: <20060220205223.83536.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060220211044.29827.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
2.) if you hate tulsa so much, either try and fix it,
or leave the place. whining about it doesn't help.
WHINING DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE WAY
THAT I FEEL TOWARD TULSA.
UNFORGIVENESS IS THE WAY THAT I FEEL,
TOWARD TULSA..!
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 14:47:55 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 20 14:48:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB.
In-Reply-To: <20060220211044.29827.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060220214755.4332.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Clyde,
then leave tulsa. I feel like I'm caught in some game
of "why don't you...yes but" with a whining teenager.
As I don't like that game, consider this our last
conservation on the subject.
Bob
--- clyde lofton wrote:
>
>
> Robert Juliano < rhjuliano@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> 2.) if you hate tulsa so much, either try and fix
> it,
> or leave the place. whining about it doesn't help.
>
> WHINING DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE WAY
> THAT I FEEL TOWARD TULSA.
> UNFORGIVENESS IS THE WAY THAT I FEEL,
> TOWARD TULSA..!
>
>
>
>
>
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 17:19:25 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 17:19:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB.
In-Reply-To: <20060220214755.4332.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060221001925.72253.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
Robert Juliano wrote:
Clyde,
Then leave Tulsa.
I WILL LEAVE TULSA.
I feel like I'm caught in some
game of "why don't you...yes
but" with a whining teenager.
As I don't like that game,
consider this our last
conservation on the subject.
OK..!
Bob
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 17:29:14 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 20 17:29:18 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BOB; AND OTHERS.
In-Reply-To: <20060221001925.72253.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060221002914.83043.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
YOU KNOW; MY SCREWED UP CENTRAL
NERVOUS SYSTEM IS TO BLAME FOR ME
DRAWING UNWANTED ATTENTION TO MYSELF.
IF I COULD HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER MY
NEUROLOGY; I WOULD BE A FAR FAR BETTER
PERSON THAN THE PERSON THAN WHAT I AM
AS I AM NOW.
I NEED A TOTAL CHANGE OF MIND; A TOTAL
CHANGE OF HEART; A TOTAL CHANGE OF
BODY; A TOTAL CHANGE OF SOUL; AND A
TOTAL CHANGE OF SPIRIT.
CLYDE
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 20:53:13 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Mon Feb 20 20:53:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 40 million year old giant penguin
Message-ID: <20060221035313.11036.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
WELLINGTON (AFP) - A group of New Zealand school children have found the remains of what is believed to be a 40 million-year-old "giant" penguin, a report said.
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Had the species of penguin survived to the present day it would have looked "many men in the eye," the Waikato Times report said.
The remains were found last month near Kawhia, on the west coast of the North Island, by children looking for fossils for a nearby natural history museum.
"I went 'Oh my God,' and just about keeled over on the reef," group leader Chris Templer recalled saying when several bones were seen sticking out from a sandstone platform uncovered by the tide.
Alan Tennyson, curator of fossils at the Museum of New Zealand in Wellington, said the find could be internationally significant.
"I think it's very exciting to find something like this ... it's a very rare event to find such a well preserved specimen. Forty million years ago was a long time," he said.
Bones from the largest ancient giant penguin, found in New Zealand more than 130 years ago, indicate the bird stood about 1.5 metres (five feet) tall and weighed more than 100 kilograms (220 pounds).
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 06:21:21 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 06:21:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 40 million year old giant Penguin.
In-Reply-To: <20060221035313.11036.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060221132121.39909.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
j s < creolescience@yahoo.com > wrote:
WELLINGTON (AFP) - A group of New
Zealand school children have found the
remains of what is believed to be a 40
million-year-old "giant" penguin, a report
said.
Had the species of penguin survived to
the present day it would have looked
"many men in the eye," the Waikato
Times report said. The remains were
found last month near Kawhia, on the
west coast of the North Island, by
children looking for fossils for a nearby
natural history museum. "I went 'Oh my
God,' and just about keeled over on the
reef," group leader Chris Templer
recalled saying when several bones
were seen sticking out from a
sandstone platform unco vered by the
tide. Alan Tennyson, curator of fossils
at the Museum of New Zealand in
Wellington, said the find could be
internationally significant. "I think it's
very exciting to find something like
this ... it's a very rare event to find
such a well preserved specimen.
Forty million years ago was a long
time," he said. Bones from the
largest ancient giant penguin, found
in New Zealand more than 130 years
ago, indicate the bird stood about 1.5
metres (five feet) tall and weighed
more than 100 kilograms (220 pounds).
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 08:56:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INJUSTICES..!
Message-ID: <20060221155636.3924.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
I AM SHARING THESE TWO SEARCH TOPICS WITH
EVERYONE.
AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO RESEARCH
THE TOPICS ON MY OWN; AND SO I'LL LET EVERYONE
ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS THE INTEREST TO DO SO,
DO THE SEARCHING AND STUDYING ON THEIR OWN.
THE TWO TOPICS ARE:
1. INJUSTICES OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
AND:
2. INJUSTICES OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 12:07:38 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Feb 21 12:07:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] human ears evolved from Gills
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How's that or intelligent design?!
Human Ears Evolved from Ancient Fish Gills
By Bjorn Carey
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 19 January 2006
12:21 am ET
Your ability to hear relies on a structure that got its start as a gill opening in fish, a new study reveals.
Humans and other land animals have special bones in their ears that are crucial to hearing. Ancient fish used similar structures to breathe underwater.
Scientists had thought the evolutionary change occurred after animals had established themselves on land, but a new look at an old fossil suggests ear development was set into motion before any creatures crawled out of the water.
The transition
Researchers examined the ear bones of a close cousin of the first land animals, a 370-million-year-old fossil fish called Panderichthys. They compared these structures to those of another lobe-finned fish and to an early land animal and determined that Panderichthys displays a transitional form.
In the other fish, Eusthenopteron, a small bone called the hyomandibula developed a kink and obstructed the gill opening, called a spiracle.
However, in early land animals such as the tetrapod Acanthostega, this bone has receded, creating a larger cavity in what is now part of the middle ear in humans and other animals.
Missing link
The new examination of the Panderichthys fossil provides scientists with a critical "missing link" between fish gill openings and ears.
"In Panderichthys, it is much more like in tetrapods where there is no longer such a 'kink' and the spiracle has widened and opened up," study co-author Martin Brazeau of Uppsala University in Sweden told LiveScience. "[The hyomandibula] is quite a bit shorter, but still fairly rod-like like in Eusthenopteron. It's like a combination of fish and tetrapods."
However, it's unclear if early tetrapods used these structures to hear. Panderichthys most likely used their spiracles for ventilation of either water or air. Early tetrapods probably passed air through the opening. Scientists would need preserved soft tissue to say for sure.
"That's the question that we're starting to investigate, whether early tetrapods used it for some ventilation function as well," Brazeau said. Whether it was for the exhalation of water or air, it's not really clear. We can infer that it's quite expanded and improved from fish."
This research is detailed in the Jan. 19 issue of the journal Nature.
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From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Feb 21 12:30:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] sorry, I'm on a science kick.
Message-ID: <20060221193017.37351.qmail@web36113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Ancient Behaviors Hard-Wired in Human Brain
By Robert Roy Britt
LiveScience Senior Writer
posted: 16 March 2005
08:18 am ET
Don't blame your lame smile or lack of an intimidating frown on your upbringing, a new study suggests. Such behaviors may be hard-wired in your brain.
Scientists know many behaviors of lower organisms are innate. Ants instinctively follow other ants to a picnic basket. Birds operate largely on autopilot, dogs less so.
In people and monkeys, however, behavior is largely something learned, so researchers have assumed our hard-wiring is limited. If that's true, however, why do many reactions, such as aggression, play out the same among diverse populations around the world?
Scientists announced Tuesday they can elicit complex behaviors by stimulating specific areas in the brain of a small primate called the bush baby. Similar studies have been done on other primates.
"We have now seen this feature in the brain of an Old World monkey and New World prosimian," said study leader Jon Kaas of Vanderbilt University. "The fact that it appears in the brains of two such divergent primates suggests that this form of organization evolved very early in the development of primates. That, in turn, suggests that it is characteristic of all primate brains, including the human brain."
The triggered behaviors include aggressive facial gestures, defensive arm movements, putting hand to mouth and other reaching and grasping movements -- all survival skills.
"These results explain why certain behaviors ? such as defensive and aggressive movements, smiling and grasping food ? are so similar around the world," Kaas said. "It is because the instructions for these movements are built-in and not learned."
The results are detailed in the online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 13:35:53 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Feb 21 13:36:02 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Scientists Mess with the Speed of Light
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Researchers in Switzerland have succeeded in breaking the cosmic speed limit by getting light to go faster than, well, light.
Or is it all an illusion?
Scientists have recently succeeded in doing all sorts of fancy things with light, including slowing it down and even stopping it all together. Now a team at the Ecole Polytechnique F?d?rale de Lausanne (EPFL) in Switzerland is controlling the speed of light using simple off-the-shelf optical fibers, without the aid of special media such as cold gases or crystalline solids like in other experiments.
?This has the enormous advantage of being a simple, inexpensive procedure that works at any wavelength,? said Luc Th?venaz, lead author of the study detailing the research.
Using a technique called Stimulated Brillouin Scattering, the researchers were able to slow down or ratchet up the speed of light like the gas pedal on a car. They succeeded in reducing the speed of light by almost a factor of 4 (although that?s still plenty fast at 46,500 miles per second), but even more dramatically, the team was also able to speed up the speed of light.
Light in a vacuum travels at approximately 186,000 miles per second, but a popular misconception is that, according to Einstein?s special theory of relativity, nothing in the universe can travel faster than this speed.
This seeming paradox can be resolved because a pulse of light is actually made up of many separate frequency components, each of which moves at their own velocities. This is known as the pulse?s phase velocity. If all the frequency components have the same phase velocity, then the overall pulse will also appear to move at that velocity.
However, if the components have different phase velocities, then the pulse?s overall velocity will depend on the relationships between the velocities of the separate components. If the velocities differ, the pulse is said to be moving at the group velocity.
By tweaking the relationship between phase velocities, it?s possible to adjust the group velocity and create the illusion that parts of the pulse are traveling faster than the speed of light.
One area where such an advance could be enormously beneficial is in the telecommunications industry.
Although information can be channeled through fiber optics at the speed of light, it can?t be processed at this speed because with current technologies, light signals must be transformed into much slower electrical signals before they are useful.
Thevenaz?s technique would essentially allow light to be processed with light without a costly electrical conversion.
The group?s research will be published in an August 22nd issue of the journal Applied Physics Letters.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 19:58:33 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 19:58:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY ;
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ; AND OTHER AFFILIATED TOPICS ;
A MODIFICATION FROM THE PREVIOUS E-MAIL..!
Message-ID: <20060222025833.35498.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm
RUTH NELSON KAISER:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/nelson.html
[MRS. KAISER AND THE NELSON FAMILY:
.....after the rise of Nazism made their lives in Germany impossible...]
[SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THIS INSANE FASCIST CORPORATE EMPIRE
OF TULSA OKLAHOMA - WITH ITS VERY MINIMAL ABILITY TO
POSITIVELY PROGRESS FORWARD, DUE TO THE OVER
COMPLICATED - OVER EXPENSIVE - OVER ORDINANCING OF THE
ENTIRE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASSES OF RESIDENCES, IN THIS
WASTELAND TOWN..!]
JACK AND MAXINE ZARROW:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/zarrow.htm
[.....the couple's commitment to petroleum oil production and pollution,
and commitment to environ-mental "health", and socialism services.....]
CHIEF GREGORY PYLE:
http://www.choctawnation.com/History/index.cfm?fuseaction=HArticle&HArticleID=31
CHIEF PUSHMATAHA:
http://www.choctawnation.com/History/index.cfm?fuseaction=HArticle&HArticleID=3
[THE ABOVE WEBSITE INFORMATION SEEMS TO INDICATE,
ACCORDING TO EACH'S CREDENTIALS, THAT CHIEF: MR.
GREGORY PYLE HAS THE BETTER CREDENTIALS, OVER
THOSE OF 'SUPPOSED' OSAGE NATIVE AMERICAN: JACK
ZARROW.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HENRY ZARROW; BUT CHIEF PYLE
AND CHIEF PUSHMATAHA SEEM LIKE FAR BETTER MEN,
THAN JACK ZARROW AND HENRY ZARROW, IN MY HUMBLE
OPINION.
THOUGH I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT THAT;
AND I WILL ACCEPT IT, IF I AM TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT IT..!
WELL LOOK..! :
I MEAN TULSA OKLAHOMA IS THIS TOTALISTIC DESPOTIC
FASCISTIC AND COMMUNIST SOCIALISTIC INSANE VERTIGO
EMPIRE; SPINNING CONTINUOUSLY 'ROUND AND 'ROUND IN
INSANE CIRCLES - AN ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED
HELL HOLE ON EARTH; OR AT MINIMUM: AN ABSOLUTELY
OVER ORDINANCED HELL HOLE IN AMERICA..!]
[THOSE OF US TULSAN'S OUT THERE WHO WONDER WHY -
WELL IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE, ALL, LIVIN' ON TULSA TIME;
AS THE LYRICS TO THE SONG GO..!]
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_pledge.html
[The word: indivisible needs to be dissected and analyzed as to
its full linguistic definition, meaning, and interpretation.
Does indivisible have identicle definition as undivisible?]
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 19:58:42 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 19:58:55 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY ;
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ; AND OTHER AFFILIATED TOPICS ;
A MODIFICATION FROM THE PREVIOUS E-MAIL..!
Message-ID: <20060222025842.35507.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm
RUTH NELSON KAISER:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/nelson.html
[MRS. KAISER AND THE NELSON FAMILY:
.....after the rise of Nazism made their lives in Germany impossible...]
[SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THIS INSANE FASCIST CORPORATE EMPIRE
OF TULSA OKLAHOMA - WITH ITS VERY MINIMAL ABILITY TO
POSITIVELY PROGRESS FORWARD, DUE TO THE OVER
COMPLICATED - OVER EXPENSIVE - OVER ORDINANCING OF THE
ENTIRE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASSES OF RESIDENCES, IN THIS
WASTELAND TOWN..!]
JACK AND MAXINE ZARROW:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/zarrow.htm
[.....the couple's commitment to petroleum oil production and pollution,
and commitment to environ-mental "health", and socialism services.....]
CHIEF GREGORY PYLE:
http://www.choctawnation.com/History/index.cfm?fuseaction=HArticle&HArticleID=31
CHIEF PUSHMATAHA:
http://www.choctawnation.com/History/index.cfm?fuseaction=HArticle&HArticleID=3
[THE ABOVE WEBSITE INFORMATION SEEMS TO INDICATE,
ACCORDING TO EACH'S CREDENTIALS, THAT CHIEF: MR.
GREGORY PYLE HAS THE BETTER CREDENTIALS, OVER
THOSE OF 'SUPPOSED' OSAGE NATIVE AMERICAN: JACK
ZARROW.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HENRY ZARROW; BUT CHIEF PYLE
AND CHIEF PUSHMATAHA SEEM LIKE FAR BETTER MEN,
THAN JACK ZARROW AND HENRY ZARROW, IN MY HUMBLE
OPINION.
THOUGH I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT THAT;
AND I WILL ACCEPT IT, IF I AM TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT IT..!
WELL LOOK..! :
I MEAN TULSA OKLAHOMA IS THIS TOTALISTIC DESPOTIC
FASCISTIC AND COMMUNIST SOCIALISTIC INSANE VERTIGO
EMPIRE; SPINNING CONTINUOUSLY 'ROUND AND 'ROUND IN
INSANE CIRCLES - AN ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED
HELL HOLE ON EARTH; OR AT MINIMUM: AN ABSOLUTELY
OVER ORDINANCED HELL HOLE IN AMERICA..!]
[THOSE OF US TULSAN'S OUT THERE WHO WONDER WHY -
WELL IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE, ALL, LIVIN' ON TULSA TIME;
AS THE LYRICS TO THE SONG GO..!]
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_pledge.html
[The word: indivisible needs to be dissected and analyzed as to
its full linguistic definition, meaning, and interpretation.
Does indivisible have identicle definition as undivisible?]
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 20:09:33 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 20:09:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRECTED PORTION.....
In-Reply-To: <20060222025833.35498.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060222030933.57596.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRECTED PORTION:
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
TULSA OKLAHOMA IS THIS TOTALISTIC DESPOTIC
FASCISTIC AND COMMUNISTIC SOCIALISTIC INSANE VERTIGO
EMPIRE; SPINNING CONTINUOUSLY 'ROUND AND 'ROUND IN
INSANE CIRCLES - AN ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED
HELL HOLE ON EARTH; OR AT MINIMUM: AN ABSOLUTELY
OVER ORDINANCED HELL HOLE IN AMERICA..!]
[THOSE OF US TULSAN'S OUT THERE WHO WONDER WHY -
WELL IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL; AS THE SONG SINGS:
LIVIN' ON TULSA TIME.]
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_pledge.html
[The word: indivisible needs to be dissected and analyzed as to
its full linguistic definition / meaning / interpretation..!
Does the word: indivisible have identicle definition and meaning and
interpretation as that of both undivisible, and undivideable..?]
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 20:26:19 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 20:26:33 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222025833.35498.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060222032619.58293.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
http://www.sntp.net/education/education.htm
JACK AND MAXINE ZARROW:
http://www.tulsahistory.org/hof/zarrow.htm
[.....the couple's commitment to petroleum oil
production and pollution, and commitment to
environ-mentalism "health", and socialism
"services".....]
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 21 20:42:43 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 21 20:43:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222032619.58293.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 21, 2006 07:26:19 PM
Message-ID: <20060222034243.58172.qmail@mall-net.com>
> THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
Do note that several religious groups claim that psychology /
psychiatry is just plain wrong, and that they have a better way based on
Science... They use this to recruit the mentally weak and milk them for
all they've got.
These groups heaviliy monitor the internet for their names, and
have been instrumental in several lawsuits which have damaged the
freedoms of the internet. Thus, I won't name them. and maybe you
shouldn't either.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 20:45:40 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 20:46:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MODIFIED FURTHER..! MAJOR MORAL AND TECHNICAL
REVIVALS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218011229.25390.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060222034540.11561.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
MODIFIED FURTHER..!
AMERICA HAS GOT TO HAVE MAJOR
MORAL AND TECHNICAL REVIVAL
BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US..!
IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE
ONE OF THE ABOVE, WITHOUT THE
OTHER..!
WE CANNOT HAVE ONE OF THE
ABOVE, WITHOUT THE OTHER..!
THE TWO TOPICS ARE ABSOLUTELY
NOT - MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE FROM
ONE ANOTHER..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 20:54:14 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 20:54:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222034243.58172.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060222035414.27231.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
Do note that several religious groups claim that psychology /
psychiatry is just plain wrong,
YES.
and that they have a better way based on Science...
OK.
They use this to recruit the mentally weak and milk them for
all they've got.
DOES THAT FIT INTO THE SAME CATEGORIES AS MONEY
LAUNDERING AND BRIBERY?
I KNOW IT IS THE SAME AS CON ARTISTRY, BUT DO
THE TWO FIT TOGETHER?
These groups heaviliy monitor the internet for their names,
and have been instrumental in several lawsuits which have
damaged the freedoms of the internet. Thus, I won't name
them. and maybe you shouldn't either.
OK.
I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
I NEED MONEY; AND I'VE GOTTA FIND NEW
EMPLOYMENT; THOUGH I ABSOLUTELY HATE
TULSA OKLAHOMA NOW; AND WANT TO MOVE
ELSEWHERE, BECAUSE OF THE INSANE POLITICS
OF THIS WASTELAND CESSPOOL INDUSTRIAL
SLUM TOWN.....
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 21:00:36 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 21 21:00:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: REVIVALS..!
In-Reply-To: <20060222034540.11561.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060222040036.16347.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
AMERICA HAS GOT TO HAVE MAJOR
MORAL AND TECHNICAL REVIVAL
BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US..!
IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE
ONE OF THE ABOVE, WITHOUT THE
OTHER..!
WE CANNOT HAVE ONE OF THE
ABOVE, WITHOUT THE OTHER..!
THE TWO ABOVE TOPICS ARE
ABSOLUTELY NOT MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE, FROM ONE ANOTHER..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 21 21:34:45 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 21 21:34:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222035414.27231.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 21, 2006 07:54:14 PM
Message-ID: <20060222043445.91447.qmail@mall-net.com>
(Been off-line for a few days due to a fried transmitter on my
internet link.)
> > THE BETRAYAL OF PSYCHOLOGY:
>
> Do note that several religious groups claim that psychology /
> psychiatry is just plain wrong,
>
> YES.
>
> and that they have a better way based on Science...
>
> OK.
>
> They use this to recruit the mentally weak and milk them for
> all they've got.
>
> DOES THAT FIT INTO THE SAME CATEGORIES AS MONEY
> LAUNDERING AND BRIBERY?
In the sense of fraud, maybe. They dance close to the line; but it
is hard to define just where the line is when you are dealing with
religious entities. A donation is a donation, something freely given.
So the only counter is that you were coerced, or that you are
incompetent. But a mood is generally not considered a coercion.
> I KNOW IT IS THE SAME AS CON ARTISTRY, BUT DO
> THE TWO FIT TOGETHER?
No.
They just want people whom they can impress, lead, and bleed dry.
Some of these groups hand out literature suggesting they can help you
know yourself. They use meters to show you how you are doing... (And
show them exactly what you feel about their statements.) Dealing with
them is, well, a sign you are way to trusting. And if you ask them if
they are this or that religion, either they say they are not, or more
often, they ask you why you ask, and lead you on into a conversation
that gives you the feeling they are not, without saying they are not.
(I did see some of these folks at some fairs, looked over their
literature, etc. and their meters were kind of interesting... However,
I played with meters like that when I was growing up. They mesure skin
conductivity, which changes with emotion, giving their recruiters quite
an advantage!)
> These groups heaviliy monitor the internet for their names,
> and have been instrumental in several lawsuits which have
> damaged the freedoms of the internet. Thus, I won't name
> them. and maybe you shouldn't either.
>
> OK.
> I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
> ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
That is another topic.
> I NEED MONEY; AND I'VE GOTTA FIND NEW
> EMPLOYMENT; THOUGH I ABSOLUTELY HATE
> TULSA OKLAHOMA NOW; AND WANT TO MOVE
> ELSEWHERE, BECAUSE OF THE INSANE POLITICS
> OF THIS WASTELAND CESSPOOL INDUSTRIAL
> SLUM TOWN.....
You will find much the same wherever you go, as it is more your
expecting more than the system can/should deliver, rather than a
breakdown of the system.
You can have freedom and responsibility, or state run welfare and
enforcement of "equality".
We are not equal. Not equal in our gender, not equal in our
height, not equal in our intelligence and certainly NOT equal in our
abilities. We are NOT equal. And our government does not enforce
equality, does not punish those who excell. Nor should it!
Our system is based on Equal Opportunity, not eqality of ability.
BIG Difference! With enforced equal opportunity, you get an equal
chance wiht those of equal skill to get in the door. The rest is up to
you. Indeed, Industry rewards those who excell.
So if you are not getting promoted, it is probably because you are
not as good as someone else. But the question is, what are your best
skills? What are your best abilites? And what skills are most in
demand. Where can you apply yourself for better appreciation and better
income? That is up to you!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 00:04:57 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 00:05:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Scientists Dig Into Pile of Comet Dust
In-Reply-To: <20060220192408.98617.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 20, 2006 11:24:07 AM
Message-ID: <20060222070457.69861.qmail@mall-net.com>
> The initial work on the samples shows they contain glassy materials,
> crystals like olivine and various trace elements, Brownlee said. Each
> tiny grain is being sliced, sometimes into hundreds of sections, for
> detailed analysis. Some grains are just four microns in diameter,
> meaning it would take 25 of them to equal the width of a human hair.
Looks like someone played billiards with a planet.... and broke it.
Not that it didn't consolidate, that it did consolidate in to something
big enough to have tectonics, and then got whammed by something else hard
enough to disperse it again. Way worse than what wiped out the
dinosaurs.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 06:23:04 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 06:23:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222043445.91447.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060222132304.56891.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> OK.
> I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
> ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
That is another topic.
> I NEED MONEY; AND I'VE GOTTA FIND NEW
> EMPLOYMENT; THOUGH I ABSOLUTELY HATE
> TULSA OKLAHOMA NOW; AND WANT TO MOVE
> ELSEWHERE, BECAUSE OF THE INSANE POLITICS
> OF THIS WASTELAND CESSPOOL INDUSTRIAL
> SLUM TOWN.....
You will find much the same wherever you go, as it is more your
expecting more than the system can/should deliver, rather than a
breakdown of the system.
WELL, IF WE CANNOT HAVE A BOTH FAIR AND
CLEAN GOVERNMENT IN TULSA OKLAHOMA, THEN
MAYBE WE CAN AT LEAST, AND AT MINIMUM, HAVE
A FAIR GOVERNMENT..!
TULSA IS ABSOLUTELY AS ABSOLUTELY CAN BE -
OVER ORDINANCED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..!
OVER WORKED PEOPLE..!
OVER ZONED REAL ESTATE..!
AND;
OVER TAXED PROPERTY..!
I THINK IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER BOSTON
MASSACHUSETTS TEA PARTY, TO SET THE
RECORD STRAIGHT AGAIN, IN THIS OVER
BURDONED MODERN AMERICA..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 12:17:03 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 12:17:07 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
In-Reply-To: <20060220020753.19978.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 19, 2006 06:07:53 PM
Message-ID: <20060222191703.10987.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Bird flu has killed at least 91 people ? most of them in Asia ? since
> 2003, according to the World Health Organization. It appears to kill
> about half the people it infects. However, should it mutate so it can
Incorrect! It appears to kill about half the people who have serious
enough symptoms to seek out medical care. Most who get it don't appear
to get any worse than the normal flu.
Tests run in Asian areas where bird flu seems to be prevalent, show
that most people have the antibodies already, and when asked, say they
had some mild something recently which matched the bird flu symptoms --
But MILD!
It's only those who have severe symptoms who go to the doctor.
> "The strategy has to be looking at how to contain it in the animal
A futile approach. The best way of doing this would be to turn the
world vegetarian. However, we can discourage the eating of "bush meat",
apes and monkeys in Africa. How is somewhat problematic... as bush meat
is cheap and the locals eating it are poor.
We must remember that viruses are participants in evolution. It
does the virus little long term good to kill the victim. The reason AIDS
is so successful, is because it takes five to ten years to kill the
victim. It's contagion rate is abysmally poor as far as other viruses
are concerned. So it has to compensate by reducing the mortality rate --
it's own and the victim's. In contrast, flu viruses have to be virulent
because the immune system kills them off in two to three days.
AIDS is also interesting in that it is so pathetically weak that it
relies on other related diseases to help it spread. That is, by
damaging the immune system, it allows other organisms to create lesions
by which bodily fluids can seep, thus increasing it's chances of
infecting a new host.
Another interesting pathogen who's life cycle encompasses cats and
mice, damages the mouse so as to make it no longer fear cats.
Evolution!
Then there is a strange cancer killing off the Tasmanian Devil.
It has been found by genetic analysis to be a quite unlikely item --
metastesized cancer cells which originated from a single tumor on a
single host. Some cells are transmitted when infected hosts bite and
claw new victims in territorial battles. It appears that over a third
of the Tasmanian Devils now have it and are slowly dying from it.
Evolution is strange indeed!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 17:09:52 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 17:10:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222132304.56891.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060223000952.11438.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> OK.
> I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
> ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
That is another topic.
WELL, I NOW REALIZE THAT EVER SINCE THE TULSA
RACE RIOT IN TULSA'S HISTORICAL PAST, THAT TULSA
HAS BEEN UNDER A ["SOMEWHAT"] HIDDEN MARTIAL
LAW EVER SINCE THAT TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THIS
TOWN.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY NO WONDER WHY TULSA OKLAHOMA
IS SUCH AN ABSOLUTELY UNFREE PLACE TO LIVE IN;
THE INSANE GOVERNING OFFICIALS THE ["NEARLY"]
TOTALIARIAN BANKING ESTABLISHMENT, AND THE
EVIL, CIVILIAN-HARASSING MEDIA ARE ALL JUST
ASKING FOR ANOTHER UP RISING FROM ALL OF THE
CIVILIANS OF THIS 'PERFECT' PRISON WASTELAND
TOWN..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 17:31:54 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 17:32:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060222132304.56891.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060223003154.95834.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> OK.
> I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
> ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
That is another topic.
WELL, I NOW REALIZE THAT EVER SINCE THE TULSA
RACE RIOT IN TULSA'S HISTORICAL PAST, THAT TULSA
HAS BEEN UNDER A ["SOMEWHAT"] HIDDEN MARTIAL
LAW EVER SINCE THAT TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THIS
TOWN.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY NO WONDER WHY TULSA OKLAHOMA
IS SUCH AN ABSOLUTELY UNFREE PLACE TO LIVE IN;
THE INSANE GOVERNING OFFICIALS AND THEIR
["NEARLY"] TOTALIARIAN BANKING ESTABLISHMENT,
AND THE CORRUPT, AND TOTALITARIAN CIVILIAN-HARASSING
MEDIA ARE ALL JUST ASKING FOR ANOTHER UPRISING
FROM ALL OF THE CIVILIANS OF THIS 'PERFECT' PRISON
WASTELAND TOWN..!
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 17:45:01 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 17:45:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 'PART OF AMERICA'S TECHNICAL REVIVAL'.....
Message-ID: <20060223004501.31375.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
'PART OF AMERICA'S TECHNICAL REVIVAL' :
BILL FORD: NO CASH, STOCK UNTIL FORD PROFITS RISE:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0505/13/A01-180839.htm
CHAIRMAN FORD: HIS ROOTS, HIS ROLE, HIS PRIORITIES:
http://www.businessweek.com/@@g5ubTWYAb8**hg/1998/39/covstory.htm
SEEING GREEN:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6652237/site/newsweek
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 18:06:23 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 18:06:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223003154.95834.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 22, 2006 04:31:54 PM
Message-ID: <20060223010623.75841.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > I'M JUST SO ENDLESSLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
> > ENDLESS INSANE POLITICS OF TULSA TOWN.
>
> That is another topic.
>
> WELL, I NOW REALIZE THAT EVER SINCE THE TULSA
> RACE RIOT IN TULSA'S HISTORICAL PAST, THAT TULSA
> HAS BEEN UNDER A ["SOMEWHAT"] HIDDEN MARTIAL
> LAW EVER SINCE THAT TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THIS
> TOWN.
Martial law is Martial Law, no if's or's or but's about it! The Army
(or the state run National Guard) is patrolling the streets, not the cops
in Martial Law. No such thing as hidden Martial Law.
> IT IS ABSOLUTELY NO WONDER WHY TULSA OKLAHOMA
> IS SUCH AN ABSOLUTELY UNFREE PLACE TO LIVE IN;
No more so than any other place!
> THE INSANE GOVERNING OFFICIALS AND THEIR
> ["NEARLY"] TOTALIARIAN BANKING ESTABLISHMENT,
> AND THE CORRUPT, AND TOTALITARIAN CIVILIAN-HARASSING
> MEDIA ARE ALL JUST ASKING FOR ANOTHER UPRISING
> FROM ALL OF THE CIVILIANS OF THIS 'PERFECT' PRISON
> WASTELAND TOWN..!
Insanity is often in the eyes of the beholder. Things you don't
understand may seem insane, till you see the reasons. There's always a
reason. It may not be a good reason, it may be no longer a valid reason,
but there is always a reason.
Clyde, first, this isn't mad-Tulsans or mad politicians mailing
list.
Second, America has internalized the revolution and expects us all
(save felons and incompetents) to participate in that revolution every
few years. If you don't like the bastards, vote them out! You vote,
yes? You can go out and campaign for the candidate of your choice, yes?
And if you really, really feel so hot about it, then start a recall
petition! I mean, we in California kicked the previous governor out and
installed a tough looking movie star marched in! But... it really helps
to know ahead of time who is likely to end up in office... after all, we
did get Jimmy The Peanut after we voted Nixon's Ford out of office. That
wasn't exactly the best selection for president, his policies leading to
stagflation and general economic hardship for everyone. We would have
been a lot better leaving Ford in office!
Enough about Tulsa already! The rest of the mad scientists are
getting ready to revolt!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 20:19:20 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:19:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF THE UNITED STATES;
AND THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Message-ID: <20060223031920.93029.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF THE UNITED STATES;
AND THE TULSA CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
KANSAS; GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF THE UNITED STATES:
http://www.urbanhipster.com/photos/ks/center.html
LEBANON KANSAS; LOCAL HISTORY:
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/Lebanon/history.html
GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE U.S. :
http://www.kansasphototour.com.center.htm
TULSA, AND THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=41d53665-e762-4970-b442-e3b2f6ceaffa
[Former Governor George Nigh used to say that the geographic center of
the United States was "somewhere up in Kansas, but the real center of
our country is here in Oklahoma." Hoyt Axton once said that Oklahoma
is the Cultural Center of the Universe. Tulsans can point to the exact
Center of the Universe.....]
GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE UNITED STATES:
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010122.html
[In fact, scientists at the Geodetic Survey have stopped calculating
"centers" due to the imprecise nature of the task. Oscar S. Adams,
Survey, even wrote, "Since there is no definite way to locate such a
point, it would be best to ignore it entirely.....]
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 20:28:10 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:28:18 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223010623.75841.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060223032810.72940.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Enough about Tulsa already! The rest of the
mad scientists are getting ready to revolt!
OK.
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T POST ANYTHING
AT ALL ANYMORE, TO THE MAD
SCIENTISTS LIST.
TULSA AND OKLAHOMA, TO ME,
ARE JUST TOTALITARIAN-LY UNFREE.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 20:43:58 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:44:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRECTION.
In-Reply-To: <20060223013412.32523.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060223034358.78964.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
'GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE U.S.' :
http://www.kansasphototour.com/center.htm
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 20:44:53 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:45:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] bush meat, human meat
In-Reply-To: <20060223031932.001CD3987A@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060223034453.59235.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
"How is somewhat problematic... as bush
meat
is cheap and the locals eating it are poor.
And don't forge the actual consuming of pygmies which was addressed a few years ago by the UN!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 20:45:27 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:45:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223032810.72940.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 22, 2006 07:28:10 PM
Message-ID: <20060223034527.54448.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Enough about Tulsa already! The rest of the
> mad scientists are getting ready to revolt!
>
> OK.
> MAYBE I SHOULDN'T POST ANYTHING
> AT ALL ANYMORE, TO THE MAD
> SCIENTISTS LIST.
There are other topics, Clyde.
We do want to hear from you; but we already know what your opinions
are of where you are. Shannon (information theory guy) says that
repeated messages are soon no different from noise. That's the stage we
see your messages about where you live -- noise, or spam drowning out
other communications.
We also want to hear more positive things.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 20:48:47 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 20:48:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] bush meat, human meat
In-Reply-To: <20060223034453.59235.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 22, 2006 07:44:53 PM
Message-ID: <20060223034847.55843.qmail@mall-net.com>
> "How is somewhat problematic... as bush
> meat is cheap and the locals eating it are poor.
>
>
> And don't forge the actual consuming of pygmies which was addressed a few years ago by the UN!
That, I didn't hear about. Pygmy monkies, I think I did hear about,
not the Pygmy tribe humans.
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Public_Notices/2000/pncb0014.txt
> BTW I wonder what overlaps Memes and physical viruses have or have had; I bet you'd know. ;)
I don't think I know much about that. Maybe if you rephrased the
question?
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Wed Feb 22 21:55:36 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:55:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
In-Reply-To: <20060223031932.001CD3987A@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <00ea01c63835$63bcaf50$6401a8c0@mikey>
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:17:03 +0000 (GMT)
> From: javilk@mall-net.com
> > Bird flu has killed at least 91 people - most of them in Asia - since
> > 2003, according to the World Health Organization. It appears to kill
> > about half the people it infects. However, should it mutate so it can
And how many die of acute lead poisoning in Washington DC every day?!?
This is a mainstream media red herring.
> Incorrect! It appears to kill about half the people who have serious
> enough symptoms to seek out medical care. Most who get it don't appear
> to get any worse than the normal flu.
>
> Tests run in Asian areas where bird flu seems to be prevalent, show
> that most people have the antibodies already, and when asked, say they
> had some mild something recently which matched the bird flu symptoms --
> But MILD!
>
> It's only those who have severe symptoms who go to the doctor.
PRECISELY! Thank you, Javilk!
> > "The strategy has to be looking at how to contain it in the animal
> A futile approach. The best way of doing this would be to turn the
> world vegetarian. However, we can discourage the eating of "bush meat",
> apes and monkeys in Africa. How is somewhat problematic... as bush meat
> is cheap and the locals eating it are poor.
Worse than futile! The victim will be Organic Free-Range Poultry! Either
the Government will remove the free-range, or order the administration of
vaccines and antibiotics! CAN EVERYONE NOT SEE that this tempest in a
teapot is politically engineered to increase profits for Tyson, the best
friend of a former President from Arkansas, and a current Senator from New
York???
MONEY is the motive! FOLLOW THE DOLLARS! How much has the MSM increased
the sales of Tamiflu with this Bird Flu garbage?
> We must remember that viruses are participants in evolution. It
> does the virus little long term good to kill the victim. The reason AIDS
> is so successful, is because it takes five to ten years to kill the
> victim. It's contagion rate is abysmally poor as far as other viruses
> are concerned. So it has to compensate by reducing the mortality rate --
> it's own and the victim's. In contrast, flu viruses have to be virulent
> because the immune system kills them off in two to three days.
Yep! It's an extinct disease that kills its host before it can reproduce!
> Another interesting pathogen who's life cycle encompasses cats and
> mice, damages the mouse so as to make it no longer fear cats.
> Evolution!
There ya go! I KNEW there was a reason I produce these Automatic
Mousetraps! I haven't seen a mouse around here in three years!
And I'm making progress on the bugs in the CATS Operating System! I should
have them under control by the time Microsoft releases Windoze Vista.
> Then there is a strange cancer killing off the Tasmanian Devil.
> It has been found by genetic analysis to be a quite unlikely item --
> metastesized cancer cells which originated from a single tumor on a
> single host. Some cells are transmitted when infected hosts bite and
> claw new victims in territorial battles. It appears that over a third
> of the Tasmanian Devils now have it and are slowly dying from it.
>
> Evolution is strange indeed!
No, no, NO!! Its "Intelligent Design!" Get with the program!
BTW- I heard a great quote this evening, "Genius is the ultimate weapon."
-Mikey
Laugh at yourself...
Oh, that would be plagiarism! I'd Best stop while I'm ahead.
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 22:30:35 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Wed Feb 22 22:30:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223034527.54448.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060223053035.15603.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Shannon (information theory guy) says that
repeated messages are soon no different
from noise. That's the stage we see your
messages about where you live -- noise, or
spam drowning out other communications.
NOISE: TULSA: COX COMMUNICATIONS:
BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES:
GLOBAL POSTISIONING SYSTEM:
ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS
DISTORTION ALL AROUND ME: MEDIA
HARASSMENT: GOVERNMENT
HARASSMENT: NEUROLOGICAL
TROUBLES: ETC.....
We also want to hear more positive things.
I CANNOT BE POSITIVE, LIVING WHERE
I AM; IN TULSA / OKLAHOMA..!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 22:43:11 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
In-Reply-To: <00ea01c63835$63bcaf50$6401a8c0@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Feb
22, 2006 11:55:36 PM
Message-ID: <20060223054307.14258.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > > Bird flu has killed at least 91 people - most of them in Asia - since
> > > 2003, according to the World Health Organization. It appears to kill
> > > about half the people it infects. However, should it mutate so it can
>
> And how many die of acute lead poisoning in Washington DC every day?!?
>
> This is a mainstream media red herring.
Not sure if I would call it a media issue... Two issues here. Or
four, depending on how you count them.
1.a. New found ability to generate vaccines, and the need to push
for such by the government in order to be ready.
1.b. Also, the hype promotes general vaccination and the push by
the vaccine industry for favorable no-liability legislation. Industry
and politics using the media.
2. A more interesting political deal against China. I think this
is much stronger than we are let on to believe.
2.a. China is the source of flu due to Chinese farming practices.
If we change those practices to separate pig farming from bird farming;
then the chance of new flu viruses being generated plunges dramatically.
CDC and others would like this very much!
2.b. There is some reason to believe China is experimenting with
biological warfare due to their extreme reluctance to disclose what was
going on with SARS. I still think there is a fair probability SARS was
a bio-war project that got loose due to the secrecy surrounding it in
the beginning. Has been attributed to bush meat (non-monkey, probably
racoon family); but not clear. Some believe it was chi-mil, in part
because many of those who reported SARS cases were sacked and some, as I
faintly recall were arrested and/or disappeared.
By keeping the pressure up, we force both disclosure, our ability
to put viral experts into China to assess what we can about a potential
chi-mil virus effort, and let them know we are prepared, thus reducing
the apparent value of such efforts to chi-mil by increasing the belief
that we are prepared and that they have local risks.
> > Tests run in Asian areas where bird flu seems to be prevalent, show
> > that most people have the antibodies already, and when asked, say they
> > had some mild something recently which matched the bird flu symptoms --
> > But MILD!
> >
> > It's only those who have severe symptoms who go to the doctor.
>
> PRECISELY! Thank you, Javilk!
It has been in the scientific news area. Not the mainstream
press...
> > > "The strategy has to be looking at how to contain it in the animal
>
> > A futile approach. The best way of doing this would be to turn the
> > world vegetarian. However, we can discourage the eating of "bush meat",
> Worse than futile! The victim will be Organic Free-Range Poultry! Either
> the Government will remove the free-range, or order the administration of
> vaccines and antibiotics! CAN EVERYONE NOT SEE that this tempest in a
> teapot is politically engineered to increase profits for Tyson, the best
> friend of a former President from Arkansas, and a current Senator from New
> York???
I don't think this is an issue. I think Tyson may have some risk
exposure here, and there is the strong tendency of the Ag Dept to
prevent advertising advantage of "Our poultry is vaccinated against bird
flu" claims.
Remember, they do NOT allow some packing houses to say they test
every single boof-head. (And they have a lot of boof-heads working for
them quite aside from the beef they slaughter!)
Free range animals will not be penalized or banned. At best, the
mainstream chicken houses can tout clean conditions; but again, this is
not going to play well with the Ag Dept and others. Side issue PR wars,
maybe... but the return on investment for that kind of public relations
campaign is always questionable. They can misfire. Raising the
awareness of free-range animals likely WILL backfire to some degree.
They know this; so it is a question of whether they want to risk this or
not. Some of the hotter heads may; but I doubt the main chicken houses
will sign on, at least not till they see whether the hotheads get more
sales or less sales.
> MONEY is the motive! FOLLOW THE DOLLARS! How much has the MSM increased
> the sales of Tamiflu with this Bird Flu garbage?
Money must be factored in. While there are no real conspiracies
here, there are reinforcing common goals and opportunities which can be
exploited for gain.
> > We must remember that viruses are participants in evolution. It
> > does the virus little long term good to kill the victim. The reason AIDS
> Yep! It's an extinct disease that kills its host before it can reproduce!
>
> > Another interesting pathogen who's life cycle encompasses cats and
> > mice, damages the mouse so as to make it no longer fear cats.
> > Evolution!
>
> There ya go! I KNEW there was a reason I produce these Automatic
> Mousetraps! I haven't seen a mouse around here in three years!
>
> And I'm making progress on the bugs in the CATS Operating System! I should
> have them under control by the time Microsoft releases Windoze Vista.
I would suggest attaching them to your Wireless LAN via backpack
sensors and shock administrator, etc. for training purposes
> > Evolution is strange indeed!
>
> No, no, NO!! Its "Intelligent Design!" Get with the program!
All that is needed for intelligent design, is to create the laws of
physics.
> BTW- I heard a great quote this evening, "Genius is the ultimate weapon."
Indeed it is. That's how we won WW-II. That, and our larger economy.
What scares me most, is that the chi-mil IS a larger economy than ours,
and we have fed it till it became such.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 22 22:57:20 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 22:57:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223053035.15603.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 22, 2006 09:30:35 PM
Message-ID: <20060223055720.19431.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Shannon (information theory guy) says that
> repeated messages are soon no different
> from noise. That's the stage we see your
> messages about where you live -- noise, or
> spam drowning out other communications.
>
> NOISE: TULSA: COX COMMUNICATIONS:
> BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES:
> GLOBAL POSTISIONING SYSTEM:
> ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS
> DISTORTION ALL AROUND ME: MEDIA
> HARASSMENT: GOVERNMENT
> HARASSMENT: NEUROLOGICAL
> TROUBLES: ETC.....
I was referring to something else -- your repeated communications.
> We also want to hear more positive things.
>
> I CANNOT BE POSITIVE, LIVING WHERE
> I AM; IN TULSA / OKLAHOMA..!
Start taking pictures. Start looking for beauty and you will find
it. Lots of positive things going on in your area, you just don't seem
to want to see them.
You have to want to get better to get better. You have to want to
be more of a dynamic warm human being if you are to become a better
human being.
Remember Star Trek Nemesis? Remember what Data said? He aspires to
be better; whereas B4 did not, at least not then.
You have to Aspire to be better. And part of that is seeing more
of the positive around you.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 23:07:28 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Wed Feb 22 23:07:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] eating pymies
Message-ID: <20060223060728.10041.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,871044,00.html
http://www.dawn.com/2003/01/10/int18.htm
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 05:34:03 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 05:34:12 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223055720.19431.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060223123403.3790.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> Shannon (information theory guy) says that
> repeated messages are soon no different
> from noise. That's the stage we see your
> messages about where you live -- noise, or
> spam drowning out other communications.
>
> NOISE: TULSA: COX COMMUNICATIONS:
> BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES:
> GLOBAL POSTISIONING SYSTEM:
> ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS
> DISTORTION ALL AROUND ME: MEDIA
> HARASSMENT: GOVERNMENT
> HARASSMENT: NEUROLOGICAL
> TROUBLES: ETC.....
I was referring to something else -- your repeated communications.
INSANITY: TULSA: TULSA: INSANITY..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..!
> We also want to hear more positive things.
>
> I CANNOT BE POSITIVE, LIVING WHERE
> I AM; IN TULSA / OKLAHOMA..!
Start taking pictures.
IF I CAN REMEMBER TO DO SO EACH MONTH; THEN I WILL.
Start looking for beauty and you will find
it. Lots of positive things going on in your area, you just don't seem
to want to see them.
You have to want to get better to get better. You have to want to
be more of a dynamic warm human being if you are to become a better
human being.
Remember Star Trek Nemesis? Remember what Data said? He aspires to
be better; whereas B4 did not, at least not then.
I HAVEN'T SEEN STAR TREK NEMESIS IN A LONG LONG TIME;
SO I DON'T REMEMBER MUCH OF ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
You have to Aspire to be better.
I DO TRY.
TULSA, AND SURROUNDING DISTRICTS ARE JUST INSANITY AT
THE MOST TOTAL, ABSOLUTE EXTREME..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..!
PROGRESSIVENESS, AND PROGRESSIVE POLITICS IN THIS
INDUSTRIAL SLUM WASTELAND TOWN, ARE JUST RIGHT NEXT
DOOR TO NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE; RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HELL;
- IN THIS TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY OVER ORDINANCED WASTELAND;
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION......
And part of that is seeing more of the positive around you.
POSITIVE POSITIVE; TOO MUCH NEGATIVE: TULSA OKLAHOMA;
A FUTURE WITH NOT MUCH HOPE..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 05:41:06 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 05:41:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
Message-ID: <20060223124106.51573.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
JOHN,
HAVE YOU AND THE OTHERS HAD THE TIME TO READ THIS,
AND THE OTHER INFO THAT I HAVE WORKED STRESSFULLY
AND FURIOUSLY ON? ; THE OTHER INFO IS THE CENTER OF
THE UNIVERSE INFO.
ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
1. ADDRESSES ECOLOGICAL, POLITICAL, AND SOCIAL
ISSUES.
2. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR
OUR FUTURE, UNLESS WE RESPOND NOW.
3. ROBERT HAOZOUS'S SCULPTURE, CREATED IN 1990,
IS TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE RESULTS OF
WESTERNIZATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AFTER CHRISTOPHER
COLUMBUS' ARRIVAL IN AMERICA; PARTICULARLY OF THE
DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
4. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD REPRESENTS CHAINS OF SUBMISSION
ON INDIANS, AFTER THEIR FIRST CONTACT WITH WESTERNERS,
500 YEARS AGO, AND SHOWS HUMAN FIGURES WITHOUT
HANDS, IN AN OVERPOPULATED ENVIRONMENT; AND A
SKY FILLED WITH A MASS OF AIRPLANES.
5. THE ARTIFICIAL CLOUD STANDS AT THE TOP, SYMBOLIZING
A THREATENED HOPE; AND BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE
WAS WELDED TOGETHER USING MILD STEEL; IT IS
CORRODING RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS
IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENT.
6. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A 72.5 FOOT TALL, STEEL SCULPTURE,
BY SANTA FE NEW MEXICO ARTIST, ROBERT HAOZOUS, AS A
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DESECRATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
7. ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS MADE FROM UNTREATED STEEL,
CORRODING AT A RATE OF TIME THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE
AMOUNT OF POLLUTANTS IN THE TULSA OKLAHOMA
ENVIRONMENT.
8. THE SCULPTURE WAS BROUGHT TO TULSA OKLAHOMA,
VIA THE SANTA FE RAILROAD, FROM SANTA FE NEW MEXICO.
[THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED FROM ARTICLES
FROM THE TULSA WORLD NEWSPAPER: MAY 3RD AND MAY
6TH, 1992; AND AUGUST 14TH, 1998.]
[ADDITIONAL:] BOB HAOZOUS'S ARTIFICIAL CLOUD IS A SILENT
COMMENTARY ON MAN'S LOVE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND OF THE
DESTRUCTIVENESS THAT CAN COME FROM THAT INFATUATION.
THE SURFACE OF THE SCULPTURE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
RUST, TO SHOW THE EFFECT OF TIME, AND THE EFFECT OF
THE ATMOSPHERE.
PHOTOS OF ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY]:
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/2ca401ac-c242-4d36-9497-aafbb1c0a8e1.jpg
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/log/1221741_200.JPG
http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/40156_200.jpg
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 05:53:50 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 05:53:55 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [CORRECTED AND MODIFIED:] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20060223123403.3790.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060223125350.69508.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote:
And part of that is seeing more of the positive around you.
POSITIVE POSITIVE; TOO MUCH NEGATIVE: TULSA OKLAHOMA;
A FUTURE WITH NOT MUCH HOPE..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..! ..!
ALL OF THE FUCKERS IN THE FUCKING TULSA MEDIA TOO.....
I'M SICK OF TIRED, AND TIRED OF SICK; AND SICK AND TIRED
OF IT ALL..!
ALL OF THE ENDLESS INSANE NEGATIVITY.
ALL OF THE ENDLESS NEGATIVE INSANITY.
OF TULSA TIME..!
I'M READY TO MOVE OUT, TO THE CHOCTAW INDIAN NATION,
IN DURANT OKLAHOMA, OR TO TUSKHA.HOMMA.
CLYDE
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 09:07:32 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 09:07:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] memes and viruses
Message-ID: <20060223160732.72322.qmail@web36106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> BTW I wonder what overlaps Memes and physical viruses have or have
>had; I bet you'd know. ;)
> I don't think I know much about that. Maybe if you rephrased the
> question?
Well I guess what I meant was that Memes are percieved as viruses of the mind and I was wondering if that is really just symbolic naming or if there are some actual parallels.
It seems like a Meme, in general is almost a positive in that is can promote societal growth and complexity by new thought patterns and awareness ( I'm thinking of studies where in Chimpanzees groups that had one or two members learn a skill, the next generation seemed to have all acquired it.) but an actual physical virus seems to only destroy in it's spread, debilitating the host. I wonder if there are any viruses that "upgrade" life .
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Feb 23 11:02:23 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Thu Feb 23 11:02:29 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] OSCAR-54, SK
Message-ID: <012c01c638a3$4d3a2a00$6401a8c0@mikey>
The SuitSat, OSCAR-54, is now a Silent Key. No transmissions have been
received from it worldwide since Sunday, and by all accounts, it has failed.
It outlived its expected lifetime by two weeks, and it can be considered a
resounding success.
The beacon code word it transmitted was "Freedom."
73, RS0RS, it was fun while it lasted.
-Mike
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Feb 23 11:28:42 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Thu Feb 23 11:28:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
In-Reply-To: <20060223054307.14258.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <013401c638a6$f9df5ed0$6401a8c0@mikey>
> From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:43 AM
> > This is a mainstream media red herring.
> Not sure if I would call it a media issue... Two issues here. Or
> four, depending on how you count them.
>
> 1.a. New found ability to generate vaccines, and the need to push
> for such by the government in order to be ready.
>
> 1.b. Also, the hype promotes general vaccination and the push by
> the vaccine industry for favorable no-liability legislation. Industry
> and politics using the media.
>
> 2. A more interesting political deal against China. I think this
> is much stronger than we are let on to believe.
>
> 2.a. China is the source of flu due to Chinese farming practices.
> If we change those practices to separate pig farming from bird farming;
> then the chance of new flu viruses being generated plunges dramatically.
> CDC and others would like this very much!
>
> 2.b. There is some reason to believe China is experimenting with
> biological warfare due to their extreme reluctance to disclose what was
> going on with SARS. I still think there is a fair probability SARS was
> a bio-war project that got loose due to the secrecy surrounding it in
> the beginning. Has been attributed to bush meat (non-monkey, probably
> racoon family); but not clear. Some believe it was chi-mil, in part
> because many of those who reported SARS cases were sacked and some, as I
> faintly recall were arrested and/or disappeared.
>
> By keeping the pressure up, we force both disclosure, our ability
> to put viral experts into China to assess what we can about a potential
> chi-mil virus effort, and let them know we are prepared, thus reducing
> the apparent value of such efforts to chi-mil by increasing the belief
> that we are prepared and that they have local risks.
We've sold our soul to the devil already. We sell it again when we give the
UAE control of our ports. I *seriously* doubt anyone in the US gives a
tinkers' damn about Chi-mil, except to make more profits.
> > Worse than futile! The victim will be Organic Free-Range Poultry!
> > Either the Government will remove the free-range, or order the
> > administration of vaccines and antibiotics! CAN EVERYONE NOT SEE that
> > this tempest in a teapot is politically engineered to increase profits
> > for Tyson, the best friend of a former President from Arkansas, and a
> > current Senator from New York???
> I don't think this is an issue. I think Tyson may have some risk
> exposure here, and there is the strong tendency of the Ag Dept to
> prevent advertising advantage of "Our poultry is vaccinated against bird
> flu" claims.
We will wait and see. The bird flu story is perfect news copy for creating
paranoia and profits, IMHO. From Roche to Tyson, *many* businesses stand to
profit from the fears of the unwashed masses, fears fanned into flames by
the MSM.
> Remember, they do NOT allow some packing houses to say they test
> every single boof-head. (And they have a lot of boof-heads working for
> them quite aside from the beef they slaughter!)
Let's examine the boof-heads inside the DC Beltline! Now THAT might be
interesting!
> Free range animals will not be penalized or banned. At best, the
> mainstream chicken houses can tout clean conditions; but again, this is
> not going to play well with the Ag Dept and others. Side issue PR wars,
> maybe... but the return on investment for that kind of public relations
> campaign is always questionable. They can misfire. Raising the
> awareness of free-range animals likely WILL backfire to some degree.
> They know this; so it is a question of whether they want to risk this or
> not. Some of the hotter heads may; but I doubt the main chicken houses
> will sign on, at least not till they see whether the hotheads get more
> sales or less sales.
Coca-Cola and Pepsi! The Cola Wars! It will drive $ALE$!
> > MONEY is the motive! FOLLOW THE DOLLARS! How much has the MSM
> > increased the sales of Tamiflu with this Bird Flu garbage?
> Money must be factored in. While there are no real conspiracies
> here, there are reinforcing common goals and opportunities which can be
> exploited for gain.
It isn't a conspiracy, no more than is the NYSE. It's just a bunch of
businessmen pursuing a common goal.
> > And I'm making progress on the bugs in the CATS Operating System! I
> > should have them under control by the time Microsoft releases Windoze
> > Vista.
> I would suggest attaching them to your Wireless LAN via backpack
> sensors and shock administrator, etc. for training purposes
Interesting idea! Then the Genetic Learning Algorithm in the CATS Operating
System might learn faster!
And to monitor progress, we incorporate CritterWebCams into the backpacks.
But what would PETA say (That's not my PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals,
but the other one).
> > > Evolution is strange indeed!
> > No, no, NO!! Its "Intelligent Design!" Get with the program!
> All that is needed for intelligent design, is to create the laws of
> physics.
Our Creator loves company! Understand the Laws of Physics!
> > BTW- I heard a great quote this evening, "Genius is the ultimate
> > weapon."
> Indeed it is. That's how we won WW-II. That, and our larger economy.
> What scares me most, is that the chi-mil IS a larger economy than ours,
> and we have fed it till it became such.
Just wait until we get done selling out our port security...
-Mike
"It's never as bad as it seems. Sometimes it's worse!"
From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 12:22:16 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 12:22:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] China's flu problem
In-Reply-To: <20060223190002.3B3243986E@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060223192216.83059.qmail@web36102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
one thing to also consider is that the Chinese are not known for their hygiene or focus on health since the cultural revolution. In fact they still do not screen their blood supply for AIDS and people continue to routinely become infect from transfusions.
They seem to have a more slash and burn mentality towards the environent and the abundance of people makes them more of a crop than a treasure. Witness the approach to that chemical spill on the Yellow River ( I think ) a couple of months back . Witness Tianamen square compared to Russia's response to civilian uprisings, even though both were communist at the time. Witness the ridiculous ammount of abortions that used to be performed before they realized there was actually a need for females in their population and now rural men are force to marry their first cousins.
I will say this, we may fear them in the short term but I think in the long term they will self destruct based on their approach . They will have a population that is diseased and has a er capita lower IQ while slowly dying from a polluted environment.
I bet in 20 years they will be a shell of their former selves and no longer a real source of competition.
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Feb 23 12:57:16 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 12:57:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
Message-ID: <293.6256972.312f6d9c@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/22/2006 2:17:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
Evolution is strange indeed!
You got that right !!!!!! Never thought evolution would get personal for
me UNTIL--------
About 5 years ago a close family member had a tooth pulled. They got a dry
socket but their dentist was out of town for a week. Like most Yankee woman
she suffered pain of the dammed until her doctor returned.
Not a week later she noticed a boil like lesson near her hair line. Her
medical doctor gave her salve but the darn thing burned to the point she could
not sleep or eat. Days later she got another, then another. She was sent to a
specialist who was totally mystified. In a weird twist of fate, an associate of
the specialist came into the office while she was there. Her doctor asked
him to look at the burns, sores.
This doctor had just returned from South America where he had attended a
study group of Doctors looking into diseases that are cropping up after
thousands of years all across the globe.
This doctor had seen the same thing in Brazil where it is called THE FIRE.
She has pemphligus
(I know this is not the correct spelling, I am writing this as phonics.)
She has been in treatment for years in Boston by the only doctor in this
country who THINKS he has a cure. She is lucky to have an insurance policy for
retired teachers for over a million dollars, these treatments cost 11,000 a pop
for 3 a week.
What is this disease, it is a problem of the skin that goes back to the days
before Moses. The skin breaks out in boils that burn all to hell. Actually
this problem is, the skin becomes allergic to the body. It is most found in
soft tissue, throat, genitals, eyes.
Somewhere in Russia there is a Jewish community that everyone there has the
gene for this disease.
So, how did it get to Brazil ?? And personally, how did a 70 year old woman
whose family on both sides lived in New England for over 300 years suddenly
develop it ?????
She was told it is passed on by the female side of the family. We have
done genealogy searches to England and from the Normans. We cannot find any
Jewish blood anywhere.
Then , how and why did this gene crop up suddenly in this woman, could the
experts be wrong ???? Could this disease have come from environmental exposure,
if so what ???
Then why the population of people from Australia have such a lot of people
120 at last count suddenly coming down with this ? Not a lot of people but
it is growing world wide.
By the way people do not die from this disease, they die from suicide.
Imagine 500 or more spots on your skin and genitals that burn like a 3rd. degree
burn, WOE.
Is this DE_EVOLUTION going backward due to pollution and the nasty's
that come from modern day life
Questions abound, Regards Vesta
The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word.
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 13:08:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
In-Reply-To: <20060223124106.51573.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 23, 2006 04:41:06 AM
Message-ID: <20060223200837.83127.qmail@mall-net.com>
> HAVE YOU AND THE OTHERS HAD THE TIME TO READ THIS,
> AND THE OTHER INFO THAT I HAVE WORKED STRESSFULLY
> AND FURIOUSLY ON? ; THE OTHER INFO IS THE CENTER OF
> THE UNIVERSE INFO.
I scanned it. My mother was an artist, still is. She had crazy
artist friends. This is one of the types of things the more egomaniacle
and less intelligent of her friends would do. It's just not interesting
to me. In a sense, to me, it's dead metal explicative explicit. It's
HIS thing, and HIS ALONE! His biggest, most famous (and shoot the
damned pigeons!) (his yelling at the sky) Artwork!!!
There were some other friends who took a more intellectual view of
things. And other artists whom I found more interesting. More
mythical, more.... inspiring, thought provoking, mystical, allegorical...
and... by the very nature of the picture, leaving things in the mists
for you to wonder about, to imagine. In other words, to touch with your
MIND and IMAGINATION. That kind of work is harder in some ways to
produce, easier in other ways. It's the kind of art work I respect a lot
more than a bunch of explicit dead metal, no matter how much it weighs
or who paid what for it.
To me, it's not good art. It's some nut case with a welder and an
idiot for a patron. _I_ could make a better, more intersting sculpture!
(I'd use concrete, sand, large spheres, maybe even some water. I'd make
a shallow pond with concrete tracks for the spheres. Some spheres would
have paintings of planets, others paintings of stars. I'd encourage
kids to roll those spheres on the tracks under the water. Maybe even
some water cannons going off on occasion to symbolize comets. It would
be fun and might even look fairly nice. I'd hope it would look fairly
nice!
I have a couple of little cards by artists like that. I would not
swap those cards for all that dead metal. I'd think about it... but
only on the grounds that I could turn that dead junk metal into cash at
a scrap metals recycling yard.
But that is my opinion. Other people have different opinions.
That's ok, as long as you keep that damned junk metal out of my sight.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
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orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 13:15:25 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 13:15:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
In-Reply-To: <20060223200837.83127.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060223201525.32323.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> HAVE YOU AND THE OTHERS HAD THE TIME TO READ THIS,
> AND THE OTHER INFO THAT I HAVE WORKED STRESSFULLY
> AND FURIOUSLY ON? ; THE OTHER INFO IS THE CENTER OF
> THE UNIVERSE INFO.
I scanned it. My mother was an artist, still is. She had crazy
artist friends. This is one of the types of things the more egomaniacle
and less intelligent of her friends would do. It's just not interesting
to me. In a sense, to me, it's dead metal explicative explicit. It's
HIS thing, and HIS ALONE! His biggest, most famous (and shoot the
damned pigeons!) (his yelling at the sky) Artwork!!!
There were some other friends who took a more intellectual view of
things. And other artists whom I found more interesting. More
mythical, more.... inspiring, thought provoking, mystical, allegorical...
and... by the very nature of the picture, leaving things in the mists
for you to wonder about, to imagine. In other words, to touch with your
MIND and IMAGINATION. That kind of work is harder in some ways to
produce, easier in other ways. It's the kind of art work I respect a lot
more than a bunch of explicit dead metal, no matter how much it weighs
or who paid what for it.
TOO 'HIGHLY' CRITICAL..!
To me, it's not good art. It's some nut case with a welder and an
idiot for a patron. _I_ could make a better, more intersting sculpture!
(I'd use concrete, sand, large spheres, maybe even some water. I'd make
a shallow pond with concrete tracks for the spheres. Some spheres would
have paintings of planets, others paintings of stars. I'd encourage
kids to roll those spheres on the tracks under the water. Maybe even
some water cannons going off on occasion to symbolize comets. It would
be fun and might even look fairly nice. I'd hope it would look fairly
nice!
BOASTING AND BRAGGING..!
I have a couple of little cards by artists like that. I would not
swap those cards for all that dead metal. I'd think about it... but
only on the grounds that I could turn that dead junk metal into cash at
a scrap metals recycling yard.
But that is my opinion. Other people have different opinions.
That's ok, as long as you keep that damned junk metal out of my sight.
YOUR OPINION ALONE..!
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From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 13:36:40 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] bush meat, human meat
Message-ID: <28f.62b2382.312f76c4@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/22/2006 10:45:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
creolescience@yahoo.com writes:
And don't forge the actual consuming of pygmies which was addressed a few
years ago by the UN!
How the heck could I have missed that. You mean big people were eating
little people ????
What is that disease that people get from eating the brains of their dead??
I know it is a shaking disease, read a few years ago that American doctors
were amazed to find this disease here amongst some foreign visitors.
Say, what you gonna do about people who traditions have held their society
together for 5,000 years. We have that problem here now when the clash of the
old world and our country come in conflict.
State of Maine is going nuts over this. They took in a couple hundred
Ethiopians placed them in a small town and are now wringing their hands over how to
handle them.
These people insist on their right to uphold their traditions, Doctors are
near fainting when 3 year old girls are brought in to them and they have just
been circumcised. Worse yet are the girls 5 or 6 of age that undergo the
tradition.
Funeral directors that receive a body with top of head removed. Family comes
from Africa, when asked where rest of skull is, every one shakes their
shoulders and kind of says, "darn if I know"
In Asia people, when whey have a headache or pain somewhere, they rub a
quarter over the pain until welts arise, I see this every day at work. People
come in with face, neck and chest covered with welts and rashes----tradition.
School system in town of New Market N.H. went crazy when the Asian kids came
to school with welts on face and body parts. They had to back off when state
told them that was tradition.
This is America, people come here with their traditions,always have and we
have to respect their life style, but it has to follow within our laws.
In the Arctic it is a tradition that amongst the Eskimos when a woman gets
so old she looses her teeth and can no longer chew the seal hide, for the
good of the family, she is placed outside the igloo,with luck a bear will eat
her, then the men will kill the bear and feed the family. Makes sense in
their world, but this is crazy in down town New York.
Regards Vesta
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 14:08:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
In-Reply-To: <293.6256972.312f6d9c@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 23,
2006 02:57:16 PM
Message-ID: <20060223210807.14998.qmail@mall-net.com>
> About 5 years ago a close family member had a tooth pulled. They got a dry
> socket but their dentist was out of town for a week. Like most Yankee woman
> she suffered pain of the dammed until her doctor returned.
That's the triggering event. Typical.
> Not a week later she noticed a boil like lesson near her hair line. Her
> medical doctor gave her salve but the darn thing burned to the point she could
> not sleep or eat. Days later she got another, then another. She was sent to a
> This doctor had seen the same thing in Brazil where it is called THE FIRE.
> She has pemphligus
Pemphigus, my spell czecker believes.
Maybe, maybe not.
> What is this disease, it is a problem of the skin that goes back to the days
> before Moses. The skin breaks out in boils that burn all to hell. Actually
> this problem is, the skin becomes allergic to the body. It is most found in
> soft tissue, throat, genitals, eyes.
Body becomes allergic to the skin. Typical auto-immune disease.
Simple cures. Bet she has other problems.
1. I would rub ascorbyl palmitate slurry, maybe with a little
sodium ascorbate into the wound, boil, whatever. I've done this with
boils and other things. This deactivates the antibodies in the area and
gives the phagocytes more ammunition. That's what I did when I had a
different skin problem with the same basic mechanisms.
2. Bowel tolerance straight sodium ascorbate in water every hour.
Start with a gram, and slowly increase it till you get gassy.
This, according to several articles I've read, again deactivates
antibodies in general by reducing the disulphide bond in the antibody,
making it bring it's arms together the way it is supposed to be when not
in the presence of serious phagocyte (a white blood cell) activity. IV
C, as 60 grams sodium ascorbate is what ask for at that point; but few
doctors will do that. Look for an orthomolecular specialist at
http://www.acam.org/ (That's an dot-org not a dot-com!) Academy of
Complementary and Alternative Medicine.
I used this when I got sun poisoning which became an auto-immune
problem with my skin. I had horrendous flu-like symptoms that went away
for a few hours after 120 gram C IV drip, but kept coming back. I
realized the triggering incident was the sunburn, and applied ascorbyl
palmitate, an oil-based form of C, to the burned areas. Within half an
hour, the flu-like symptoms abated. Bowel tolerance on C was markedly
elevated during this episode.
The key for me was that I didn't feel like I was exhaling virus
particles and other crud like I do when I have a cold or flu. Thus, it
must be allergy. And thus, likely the skin, as that was what had just
been traumatized a few days before. (The skin peeled two or three days
later.)
3. On the odd chance there is a hidden food allergy, you might
consider rotating the diet as per Trowbridge and Walker's "The Yeast
Syndrome".
Now, I don't think this is a yeast problem; but the rotating dietary
plan relieves part of the immune system so that it can stand down. In
cases like these, which my doctor is a specialist in, the number one
thing is to get the immune system to stand down from it's hyper-alert
status.
Food rotation has defuse many, many auto-immune diseases.
There probably is no genetic component. It's probably a simple
auto-immune disease caused by the dry socket being untreated long enough
to trigger antibody formation.
The real question here, is whether it is that she has an allergy to
some odd skin cells, or whether there is some organism on the skin. If
it's some organism, then the live-culture yogurt applied to that would
help change the skin ecology so that this organism didn't survive.
Quite a few people with skin conditions have found that live
culture yogurt applied to the problem area really helps them. So... is
it the organisms, the antibodies, or some less than ideal interaction
that goes into runaway mode? We don't know. We've just seen that many
with odd skin conditions like boils are considerably helped by live
culture yogurt and the change in skin ecology that this produces.
See http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html
http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/faces.html
http://www.mall-net.com/mcs.yogurt.html
http://www.mall-net.com/mcs.rotate.html
http://www.orthomed.com/
http://www.acam.org/
Let me know what happens!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Feb 23 14:14:17 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 14:14:26 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
Message-ID: <2ba.51cc477.312f7fa9@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/23/2006 12:43:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
javilk@mall-net.com writes:
b. There is some reason to believe China is experimenting with
biological warfare due to their extreme reluctance to disclose what was
going on with SARS. I still think there is a fair probability SARS was
a bio-war project that got loose due to the secrecy surrounding it in
the beginning. Has been attributed to bush meat (non-monkey, probably
racoon family); but not clear. Some believe it was chi-mil, in part
because many of those who reported SARS cases were sacked and some, as I
faintly recall were arrested and/or disappeared.
China scares the pants off me. They control both sides of the Panama
Cannel , We should thank our government for giving OUR cannel up, we dug it , we
built it , it was ours. History shows there was a war over where the cannel
was to be dug,Panama won and gave it to us.
The Chinese now own all the ports on the west coast. How did they get them???
Now we want to give the Arabs our eat coast ports, HORRABLE
Have you noticed that a lot of farms in not only the mid-west but all over
the country are not owned by Americans anymore.
So what do Americans do now, we are loosing our ports, our farms, our
American life style to the people who want the big bucks.
I believe in the next ten years, without a leader and leaders that put
America first, we are going to loose her. We are in the hands of people who put
money first above the flag---- God have mercy. Regards
Vesta
Just how much of America is American today ??
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 14:16:47 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 14:16:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] bush meat, human meat
In-Reply-To: <28f.62b2382.312f76c4@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 23,
2006 03:36:20 PM
Message-ID: <20060223211647.19935.qmail@mall-net.com>
>> And don't forge the actual consuming of pygmies which was addressed a
>> few years ago by the UN!
> How the heck could I have missed that. You mean big people were eating
> little people ????
>
> What is that disease that people get from eating the brains of their dead??
> I know it is a shaking disease, read a few years ago that American doctors
> were amazed to find this disease here amongst some foreign visitors.
Kuru Kuru, or just Kuru. It's a prion disease similar to mad cow.
> Say, what you gonna do about people who traditions have held their society
> together for 5,000 years. We have that problem here now when the clash of the
> State of Maine is going nuts over this. They took in a couple hundred
> Ethiopians placed them in a small town and are now wringing their hands over how to
> handle them.
It's called edjukayshun. That, and a little piece of paper signed
that you will adopt American Customs and respect American Law. And
check with an American or three before you do anything odd or bloody.
> These people insist on their right to uphold their traditions, Doctors are
> near fainting when 3 year old girls are brought in to them and they have just
> been circumcised. Worse yet are the girls 5 or 6 of age that undergo the
> tradition.
Yep.
> This is America, people come here with their traditions,always have and we
> have to respect their life style, but it has to follow within our laws.
>
> In the Arctic it is a tradition that amongst the Eskimos when a woman gets
> so old she looses her teeth and can no longer chew the seal hide, for the
> good of the family, she is placed outside the igloo,with luck a bear will eat
> her, then the men will kill the bear and feed the family. Makes sense in
> their world, but this is crazy in down town New York.
Yep. Here, we have dentures. Much easier than polar bears; though
not as cheap.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 14:52:32 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 14:52:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ARTIFICIAL CLOUD; [ALSO KNOWN AS UNITY].
In-Reply-To: <20060223201525.32323.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 23, 2006 12:15:25 PM
Message-ID: <20060223215232.38410.qmail@mall-net.com>
> javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
>
> > HAVE YOU AND THE OTHERS HAD THE TIME TO READ THIS,
> > AND THE OTHER INFO THAT I HAVE WORKED STRESSFULLY
> > AND FURIOUSLY ON? ; THE OTHER INFO IS THE CENTER OF
> > THE UNIVERSE INFO.
>
> I scanned it. My mother was an artist, still is. She had crazy
> artist friends. This is one of the types of things the more egomaniacle
> and less intelligent of her friends would do. It's just not interesting
> to me. In a sense, to me, it's dead metal explicative explicit. It's
> HIS thing, and HIS ALONE! His biggest, most famous (and shoot the
> damned pigeons!) (his yelling at the sky) Artwork!!!
>
> There were some other friends who took a more intellectual view of
> things. And other artists whom I found more interesting. More
> mythical, more.... inspiring, thought provoking, mystical, allegorical...
> and... by the very nature of the picture, leaving things in the mists
> for you to wonder about, to imagine. In other words, to touch with your
> MIND and IMAGINATION. That kind of work is harder in some ways to
> produce, easier in other ways. It's the kind of art work I respect a lot
> more than a bunch of explicit dead metal, no matter how much it weighs
> or who paid what for it.
>
> TOO 'HIGHLY' CRITICAL..!
We are allowed to have our own opinions on art. I know a lot of
people like the more mythical art. I've been through a number of art
galleries in Boston, New York, Washington, Florida, and the
San Francisco Bay area of California. I know what I like, and what I
dislike. And I know an egominiacal idiot when I see his art.
If you wand decent metal mechanical art, Calder did some fairly
nice mobiles.
If you want some interesting stuff, try Pollak and his tapistry
like things, which are interesting as backgrounds or "wallpapers" more
than prime pieces. But there is some interesting pattern there.
Pablo Picasso, eh... he had a few pieces that looked maybe not so
bad; but most of them just struck me as too crazy. More coordination
than a drunk; but about that on the conceptual level.
That said, Pablo Picasso was the guy I tried to imitate when I
tried my hand at painting, simply because I felt I could. My cubic
cactus apples on an orange sand background was not to my own liking.
Enough so that it, rather than my mother's encouragement, was what
derailed my career as an artist. Fortunately so, I think. There's
enough art pollution in this world already.
> To me, it's not good art. It's some nut case with a welder and an
> idiot for a patron. _I_ could make a better, more intersting sculpture!
> (I'd use concrete, sand, large spheres, maybe even some water. I'd make
> a shallow pond with concrete tracks for the spheres. Some spheres would
> have paintings of planets, others paintings of stars. I'd encourage
> kids to roll those spheres on the tracks under the water. Maybe even
> some water cannons going off on occasion to symbolize comets. It would
> be fun and might even look fairly nice. I'd hope it would look fairly
> nice!
>
> BOASTING AND BRAGGING..!
No, not boasting. It's just a description of something that I
would do on the same theme _IF_ I could. I am not so much an artist as
a systems analyst. I have very little understanding of media and
materials needed to build something like that. Nevermind the patron,
buyer, etc. needed to earn a living at it.
> I have a couple of little cards by artists like that. I would not
> swap those cards for all that dead metal. I'd think about it... but
> only on the grounds that I could turn that dead junk metal into cash at
> a scrap metals recycling yard.
>
> But that is my opinion. Other people have different opinions.
> That's ok, as long as you keep that damned junk metal out of my sight.
>
> YOUR OPINION ALONE..!
A lot of people have similar opinions, as we have seen from reports
of other large metalic artistic projects. Some like them, some detest
them. We each have our preferences. Here in America, we have a right
to our preferences, unlike other places like the old ussr where you had
to like the state sponsored art-whore's crap or end up in Siberia.
-J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 15:13:35 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 15:13:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] China's flu problem
In-Reply-To: <20060223192216.83059.qmail@web36102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 23, 2006 11:22:16 AM
Message-ID: <20060223221335.51418.qmail@mall-net.com>
> They seem to have a more slash and burn mentality towards the
> environent and the abundance of people makes them more of a crop than
> a treasure. Witness the approach to that chemical spill on the Yellow
Well... ecology, etc. is a middle class phenomenon. The rich can
out-run it, the poor care more about this week's meals.
China is slowly developing a middle class, a bourgeoise, which some
of the rulers detest. Our entire strategy is based upon encouraging
this middle class, which is the core of any democratic revolution. the
poor are too beat up to take initiative; mostly they are poor because
they don't take initiative. The rich have it too good, believe they
have arrived. It is the middle class who see the contrasts and want
more. Their children have grown up free enough and crazy enough to be
willing to upset things.
We will see what happens. Meanwhile, try to buy American if you
can. Complain to your congress critter about the ports thing and about
too many Chinese imports destroying out industrial base. Remind them that
we won WW-II because we had an industrial base to develop the leadership
and ideas needed to defend ourselves.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Feb 23 15:45:56 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Thu Feb 23 15:46:02 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 69,
various replies
In-Reply-To: <20060223203642.1BA0A39876@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <000201c638ca$e92dcd00$6401a8c0@mikey>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:22:16 -0800 (PST)
> From: j s
> Subject: [Mad-Scientists] China's flu problem
> I will say this, we may fear them in the short term but I think in the
> long term they will self destruct based on their approach . They will have
> a population that is diseased and has a er capita lower IQ while slowly
> dying from a polluted environment.
>
> I bet in 20 years they will be a shell of their former selves and no
> longer a real source of competition.
I vehemently disagree. The Chinese civilization is older than any western
civilization. They had technology when we were living in caves.
Further, they have three billion people! Kill thousands per hour, and they
will still overrun the planet. The Chinese are unstoppable, even with the
use of nuclear weaponry.
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:57:16 EST
> From: Vesta111@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] Andromeda strain is coming
> Is this DE_EVOLUTION going backward due to pollution and the
> nasty's
> that come from modern day life
>
> Questions abound, Regards Vesta
Nope! Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Read the Bible.
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:36:20 EST
> From: Vesta111@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] bush meat, human meat
> And don't forge the actual consuming of pygmies which was addressed a few
> years ago by the UN!
>
> How the heck could I have missed that. You mean big people were
> eating
> little people ????
>
> What is that disease that people get from eating the brains of their
> dead??
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, caused by prions.
-Mike
From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 16:03:43 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 16:03:47 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 70
In-Reply-To: <20060223224604.1B50F39874@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060223230343.30964.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>I vehemently disagree. The Chinese civilization is older than any
>western
>civilization. They had technology when we were living in caves.
Oh trust me I know, but I think theirs may be at an end just like all the others - hell, compare Egypt today or Babylon. Or Rome or Athens.
I just think that they have alot of potential but unless they get their act together they won't be the source of concern they are now. I think India has the greatest potential as the next world power but that's just my opinion.
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 16:06:15 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 16:06:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] speaking of China - nutjobs!
Message-ID: <20060223230615.62037.qmail@web36113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_en_ot/china_cartoon_ban
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 16:06:15 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 16:06:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] speaking of China - nutjobs!
Message-ID: <20060223230616.9376.qmail@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_en_ot/china_cartoon_ban
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 16:26:59 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 16:27:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 70
In-Reply-To: <20060223230343.30964.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 23, 2006 03:03:43 PM
Message-ID: <20060223232659.88459.qmail@mall-net.com>
> >civilization. They had technology when we were living in caves.
>
> Oh trust me I know, but I think theirs may be at an end just like all
> the others - hell, compare Egypt today or Babylon. Or Rome or Athens.
Studies of brain genetics suggest that the Western European has
more evolutionary diversity and more recent evolution in the brain
related genes than most of the rest of the world.
That does not mean they are not as smart! Just that they are less
diverse. ANd so, come up with less diverse ideas, I think, than us
crazy white guys.
> I just think that they have alot of potential but unless they get
> their act together they won't be the source of concern they are now. I
> think India has the greatest potential as the next world power but
t> hat's just my opinion.
Superstitious folks... but more likely than the Chinese.
We are the pinacle of evolution! Um... and also the bottomacle.
Diversity is a two edged sword. (Just look at the skinheads and rap
singers.)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 17:54:15 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 17:54:22 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
Message-ID: <20060224005415.62896.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
clyde lofton wrote:
MR. HARRIS, AND TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE
ELSE CONCERNED..!
I AM SICK OF FIGHTING, THE ABSOLUTELY
INSANE TULSA OKLAHOMA POLITICAL SHIT..!
WHEN WILL THE PEOPLE OF THIS GOD DAMNED
AND MAN DAMNED INDUSTRIALIZED SHITHOLE
SLUM CESSPOOL FUCKING TOWN, HAVE
PEACE AND QUIET..!
I ABSOLUTELY HAVE ZERO LOVE FOR
TULSA OKLAHOMA BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU
BASTARDS AND BITCHES ON THE FUCKING RIGHT;
AND BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU BASTARDS AND
BITCHES ON THE FUCKING LEFT..!
TULSA HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FUCKING
GOD DAMNED OVER ORDINANCED AND
OVER RATED HELL HOLE ON PLANET FUCKING
EARTH..!
AND I AM GOD DAMNED SICK OF IT FUCKING
ALL..!
ENOUGH GOD DAMNED SAID..!
WOUNDED, WITH A
FATAL WOUND, DIRECTLY
THROUGH MY CARDIOLOGY;
CLYDE LOFTON JR.
TULSA
Randy Harris < aharris954@cox.net > wrote:
http://oklahomansforschoolaccountability.blogspot.com/
Randy Harris-- town hall organizer
When:
Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 6:30 PM
Where:
Hardesty Regional Library
8316 E. 93rd St. (Meeting Room)
Tulsa , OK 74133
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 18:18:19 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:18:24 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
as dinosaurs
Message-ID: <20060224011819.25907.qmail@web36102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_on_sc/jurassic_beaver
so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if mammals continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the mammals demise as well, except perhaps they survived the resultant sun blocking by their fur. But what did they eat?
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 18:18:25 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:18:43 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
as dinosaurs
Message-ID: <20060224011825.68099.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_on_sc/jurassic_beaver
so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if mammals continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the mammals demise as well, except perhaps they survived the resultant sun blocking by their fur. But what did they eat?
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 18:18:35 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:19:16 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
as dinosaurs
Message-ID: <20060224011835.39471.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_on_sc/jurassic_beaver
so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if mammals continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the mammals demise as well, except perhaps they survived the resultant sun blocking by their fur. But what did they eat?
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 18:21:02 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:21:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224005415.62896.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 23, 2006 04:54:15 PM
Message-ID: <20060224012102.95202.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I AM SICK OF FIGHTING, THE ABSOLUTELY
> INSANE TULSA OKLAHOMA POLITICAL SHIT..!
> WHEN WILL THE PEOPLE OF THIS GOD DAMNED
> AND MAN DAMNED INDUSTRIALIZED SHITHOLE
> SLUM CESSPOOL FUCKING TOWN, HAVE
> PEACE AND QUIET..!
First, this is not an appropriate letter to a political organizer
who might be looking for help and ideas regarding change. You do want
change, no? Well, it might be worth going to see what he has to say.
Unfortunately, this letter labels you as a nut case.
Second, you never list any of the specifics you are having trouble
with, which again tends to label you as a nut case. If you have
specific areas you are interested in, you might mention them, as
specifically as possible.
> I ABSOLUTELY HAVE ZERO LOVE FOR
> TULSA OKLAHOMA BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU
> BASTARDS AND BITCHES ON THE FUCKING RIGHT;
> AND BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU BASTARDS AND
> BITCHES ON THE FUCKING LEFT..!
This... ah... shows that you are not willing to listen to reason.
Thus, why allow you to attend?
> WOUNDED, WITH A
> FATAL WOUND, DIRECTLY
> THROUGH MY CARDIOLOGY;
This is even worse. It brings up the spectre of blood and gore. It
also indicates you feel you have nothing to lose, and thus might act in
a manner as to cause bodily injury. It allows the recipient to
legitimately question his safety and request assistance of the local
constabulary to keep you out.
You really should watch what you write, or the right will watch
you. (And the left too!)
If you sent many letters like this, I can see why someone might be
discretely watching you on occasion to see if you have some kind of
Columbine syndrome, munitions, etc.
This is not an effective communications style. It does not even get
any point across other than that you are not someone they would like to
have visit a public office, much less run for public office.
You really do need to do something about your high adrenaline
levels.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 18:25:10 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:25:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] sorry about all of the repeated posts - Yahoo
froze on me
Message-ID: <20060224012510.45698.qmail@web36112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 18:47:48 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:47:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
In-Reply-To: <20060224011835.39471.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 23, 2006 05:18:35 PM
Message-ID: <20060224014748.40617.qmail@mall-net.com>
> so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if
> mammals continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the
> mammals demise as well, except perhaps they survived the resultant
> sun blocking by their fur. But what did they eat?
Well, Beavers are mostly herbivores, so they ate herbage. Herbage
would survive far longer under adverse circumstances, and even dead,
they might get some food value from them.
Also, it does not take that many for species survival. If they
were anything like our beavers, they would be living in ponds that might
more readily survive any flash fire effects. One in a few hundred, to
one in a few thousand. The temperature downturn afterwards might not be
quite as bad in some areas, allowing them to survive in their huts. Some
might keep adding more insulating wood to their huts, or be covered by
shock wave broken trees, and thus survive longer.
Those that survived a few years would likely survive a lot more.
One family in a thousand might be enough. These were discovered in
China, I believe, so would not have had as bad direct effects as those
in the Americas. (But we don't know about other cometary fragments. Some
of these comets break up and travel in swarms, like the swarm that hit
Jupiter some years back.)
And also, they did not compete with the dinosaurs directly.
Indeed, they would mostly be hiding in their stick and mud huts, fairly
safe from the weak limbed tyrannosaur versions. The streams they lived
in probably didn't support enough life to really attract a lot of
flesh eaters.
Of course, that assumes they were similar to our present beavers.
But with teeth like that, what else would they eat? It's the food they
eat that evolves them into what we call beavers.
Interesting thought...
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Feb 23 20:52:53 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Thu Feb 23 20:53:24 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224012102.95202.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060224035253.99200.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
You really do need to do something about your high adrenaline
levels.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE REST OF
YOUR REPLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HELP THINGS AT ALL,
HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN; THOUGH I DO CERTAINLY
NEED SOME HELP FROM SOME ABSOLUTELY HONEST
SOMEONE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, IN
THIS CESSPOOL WASTELAND THAT USED TO BE KNOWN
AS TULSEY TOWN, BEFORE THE RAPING AND PILLAGING
EARLY WHITE OILMEN SETTLERS OF THIS PLACE, STOLE
AND RAPED THE LAND OF THE CREEK NATIVE AMERICANS,
WHERE THIS CURSED TOWN IS PRESENTLY LOCATED..!
TULSA [I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT
TULSA] IS PROBABLY THE UNITED STATES #1 CRANK AND
CRACKHEAD INSANE INDUSTRIAL NAZI AND COMMIE
DICTATORSHIP EMPIRE.
I'M TIRED.
LATER,
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 21:29:47 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 21:30:05 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224035253.99200.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 23, 2006 07:52:53 PM
Message-ID: <20060224042947.14188.qmail@mall-net.com>
> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE REST OF
> YOUR REPLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HELP THINGS AT ALL,
> HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN; THOUGH I DO CERTAINLY
> NEED SOME HELP FROM SOME ABSOLUTELY HONEST
> SOMEONE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, IN
> THIS CESSPOOL WASTELAND THAT USED TO BE KNOWN
> AS TULSEY TOWN, BEFORE THE RAPING AND PILLAGING
> EARLY WHITE OILMEN SETTLERS OF THIS PLACE, STOLE
> AND RAPED THE LAND OF THE CREEK NATIVE AMERICANS,
> WHERE THIS CURSED TOWN IS PRESENTLY LOCATED..!
> TULSA [I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT
> TULSA] IS PROBABLY THE UNITED STATES #1 CRANK AND
> CRACKHEAD INSANE INDUSTRIAL NAZI AND COMMIE
> DICTATORSHIP EMPIRE.
Did you rape and pillage the place? No. Did your parents? No.
Then you are not responsible. PERIOD! And neither is anyone else alive
now!
Like them, you were born here and accepted what you were given.
Can this be un-done? Nope!
Would people do these things today? No! Certainly not! We, as
humanity and as a culture have evolved beyond those times.
Have you evolved? Or are you still spending all your time in the
past over which you have ZERO control?
Why not spend your time in the present, where you DO have plenty of
control?
> I'M TIRED.
So are we. It's late, I've been trying to recover data from a
hard drive with bearing problems, etc.
In other words, I am dealing with the present and looking toward
the future, not the past. The past is past, water under the bridge,
long gone down the river. I am here now. I struve to improve what I
can, and let pass what I can not change.
Might not be a bad thing for you to consider, Clyde. Change what
you can, let go of what you can not.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 23 21:41:58 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 21:42:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Unquantum Physics Meeting (fwd)
Message-ID: <20060224044158.30828.qmail@mall-net.com>
Unquantum Physics Meeting and Equinox Party.
March 19, 1 to 7 pm, Sunday afternoon, at the home of Miriam and Eric =
Reiter, 251 Nelson, Pacifica CA 94044. =20
You will see my
recent alpha-ray quantum-refutation experimental data,=20
laboratory,=20
past inventions & attempts/designs/creations, and=20
physics library. =20
I intend to lead a group criticism of my list of physics-textbook =
misconceptions. =20
Mike Kan will show his home-made alpha detector. Please contact me in =
advance if you or other participants would like to show-&-tell things =
that can work into the theme, as we develop the theme (call me). Food =
contributions welcome, but not necessary. Your friends are invited. =
Please see my website to be prepared for this meeting, =
http://www.unquantum.com . It seemed easy for me to update the =
website-text, so I intend to post news there regularly before the =
meeting. From now to the meeting, I will be rebuilding my =
alpha-splitting vacuum system. email eric@unquantum.com , or call me =
at 650 738 9005.
Thank You,
Eric Reiter
From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Feb 24 02:39:39 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 24 02:39:52 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
as dino...
Message-ID: <245.764b0a2.31302e5b@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/23/2006 8:19:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
creolescience@yahoo.com writes:
so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if mammals
continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the mammals demise as well,
except perhaps they survived the resultant sun blocking by their fur. But what
did they eat?
I don't think any one thing killed of the dinosaurs. Lots of things and
calamities over eons of time.
One thing that I feel helped to bring about their end was their size and the
number or them in their herd.
Take the American buffalo, once we had millions of them. Big suckers they
are, running at great speed all over our great plains.
I cannot imagine the amount of dung they left after a couple hundred
thousand of them stopped to graze for a day.They left soon as the grasses were
depleted and thundered off running many, many miles to find new food and water.
Some dinosaurs were 10 times the size of a buffalo and also lived in herds.
These beasts could not run and unless attacked most likely seldom moved at
anything but a slow pace, like our elephant herds of today. Big, slow dinosaurs
would have to be in the vicinity of their dung all their lives.
The methane from mountains of dung, disease coming from the piles, the
millions of flys (big ones I bet) would not have made life for them pleasant.
I wonder what would have happened when there was a lightning strike in the
area of a large deposit of methane?
I also wonder what happened to our sea creatures, and how the whale managed
to come through all the upheavals that took out the monster sharks.
The horse shoe crab still lives today, we use to bring home dead ones we
found in the river. Stink, arg, parents wouldn't let their kids bring them
anywhere near the house.
We still have left over dinosaurs running around today and most are fast
movers ,the ostrich is second fastest land animal.
Beaver are swift little guys too, perhaps speed was the defining marker that
led to survival of the beasts. The ability to move away from their leavings
in quick order.
Regards, Vesta
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 07:17:58 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224042947.14188.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060224141738.19309.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE REST OF
> YOUR REPLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HELP THINGS AT ALL,
> HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN; THOUGH I DO CERTAINLY
> NEED SOME HELP FROM SOME ABSOLUTELY HONEST
> SOMEONE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, IN
> THIS CESSPOOL WASTELAND THAT USED TO BE KNOWN
> AS TULSEY TOWN, BEFORE THE RAPING AND PILLAGING
> EARLY WHITE OILMEN SETTLERS OF THIS PLACE, STOLE
> AND RAPED THE LAND OF THE CREEK NATIVE AMERICANS,
> WHERE THIS CURSED TOWN IS PRESENTLY LOCATED..!
> TULSA [I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT
> TULSA] IS PROBABLY THE UNITED STATES #1 CRANK AND
> CRACKHEAD INSANE INDUSTRIAL NAZI AND COMMIE
> DICTATORSHIP EMPIRE.
Did you rape and pillage the place? No. Did your parents? No.
NO; BUT HOW IS THAT, FOR A VERY VERY NICE REVIEW OF
TULSEY OKLAHOMA..?
Then you are not responsible. PERIOD! And neither is anyone else alive
now!
WELL, WITH TULSEY BEING OVER ORDINANCED, AND AN OVER
-RATED BEYOND REASON PLACE, LIKE I'VE ALREADY STATED;
PROGRESSIVENESS IN THIS WASTELAND IS EITHER ALWAYS,
OR IS EITHER NEARLY ALWAYS, AT A TOTAL STANDSTILL..!
AND I AM ABSOLUTELY FAR AWAY FROM BEING THE ONLY
ONE WHO FEELS THAT WAY ABOUT THIS INSANE CESSPOOL
TOWN..!
PERIOD.
Like them, you were born here and accepted what you were given.
YES, I WAS BORN HERE; THOUGH I DO NOT ACCEPT EVERYTHING
THAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN; BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT
OF SHIT IN MY LIFE.
Can this be un-done? Nope!
YES; THOUGH MAYBE ONLY TO AN EXTENT.
Would people do these things today? No!
YES YES YES..!
TULSEY IS THE HIGHEST CRIME TOWN IN THE SHTATE OF
OKLAHOMA, ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS THAT I HAVE
READ.
THE NEWS MEDIA IN THIS PLACE, IS ALWAYS ENDLESS
BAD NEWS, AND I WAS ALSO CONTEMPLATING IF THE
T.P.D. [THE TULSA POLICE DEPARTMENT] IS AS CORRUPT
AS THE OFFICIALS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO EFFECTIVELY
GOVERN THIS TOWN.
THE T.P.D. IS MAJORLY UNDER FUNDED ENTITY;
AND AS THE T.P.D. IS, IN THE HERE AND NOW, THE THEY
CARRY ON, MAKES THEM APPEAR AS THOUGH THEY WANT
TO FIGHT EVERYONE, INSTEAD OF BEING MORE
BENEVOLENT, AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, IN SERVING
AND PROTECTING THE PUBLIC..!
TULSA HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST CORRUPT EMPIRE, IN
OKLAHOMA..!
Certainly not! We, as
humanity and as a culture have evolved beyond those times.
YEAH WELL, MAYBE IN CERTAIN PLACES IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, BUT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS PUNK
TOWN..!
Have you evolved? Or are you still spending all your time in the
past over which you have ZERO control?
THE PAST; I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PAST ANYMORE.
Why not spend your time in the present, where you DO have plenty of
control?
TO THE FUTURE AND BEYOND!
> I'M TIRED.
So are we. It's late, I've been trying to recover data from a
hard drive with bearing problems, etc.
In other words, I am dealing with the present and looking toward
the future, not the past. The past is past, water under the bridge,
long gone down the river. I am here now. I struve to improve what I
can, and let pass what I can not change.
Might not be a bad thing for you to consider, Clyde. Change what
you can, let go of what you can not.
VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.....
Chem / Fungus allergies
I NEED AN HONEST SOMEONE OUT THERE, WHO CAN
HONESTLY HELP MYSELF AND HELP OTHERS, WITH
THE CHEMICAL AND FUNGUS ALLERGIES PROBLEMS,
AND THE OVER ABUNDANCE OF ADRENALINE - THYROID
STORM ISSUE AS WELL.
TULSA THOUGH; IS THE MOST DISHONEST TOWN IN
THE SHTATE OF OKLAHOMA.
ALTHOUGH WHATEVER ALL OF THE WORKS THAT GO ON
IN THE OKLAHOMA STATE CAPITAL BUILDING ARE, IN O.K.C.
THOSE WORKS HAVE GOT TO BE AS EQUALLY AS
DISHONESTLY CORRUPT AS TULSA..!
OUR CURRENT GOVERNOR OF OKLAHOMA - EVERYTIME
THAT THE FUCKING TELEVISION MEDIA SHOWS HIM; HE
ALWAYS APPEARS TO BE A BRAINLESS, OR A BRAINDEAD
DUNCE, ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WORTHLESS NONSENSE,
THOUGH NOT DOING MUCH OF ANYTHING, IF EVEN DOING
ANYTHING AT ALL..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 07:43:45 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 07:43:50 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED FURTHER: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224042947.14188.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060224144345.2987.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED FURTHER:
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE REST OF
> YOUR REPLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HELP THINGS AT ALL,
> HERE IN INDUSTRIAL SLUMTOWN; THOUGH I DO CERTAINLY
> NEED SOME HELP FROM SOME ABSOLUTELY HONEST
> SOMEONE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, IN
> THIS CESSPOOL WASTELAND THAT USED TO BE KNOWN
> AS TULSEY TOWN, BEFORE THE RAPING AND PILLAGING
> EARLY WHITE OILMEN SETTLERS OF THIS PLACE, STOLE
> AND RAPED THE LAND OF THE CREEK NATIVE AMERICANS,
> WHERE THIS CURSED TOWN IS PRESENTLY LOCATED..!
> TULSA [I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT
> TULSA] IS PROBABLY THE UNITED STATES #1 CRANK AND
> CRACKHEAD INSANE INDUSTRIAL NAZI AND COMMIE
> DICTATORSHIP EMPIRE.
Did you rape and pillage the place? No. Did your parents? No.
NO; BUT HOW IS THAT, FOR A VERY VERY NICE REVIEW OF
TULSEY OKLAHOMA..?
Then you are not responsible. PERIOD! And neither is anyone else alive
now!
WELL, WITH TULSEY BEING OVER ORDINANCED, AND AN OVER
-RATED BEYOND REASON PLACE, LIKE I'VE ALREADY STATED;
PROGRESSIVENESS IN THIS WASTELAND IS EITHER ALWAYS,
OR IS EITHER NEARLY ALWAYS, AT A TOTAL STANDSTILL..!
AND I AM ABSOLUTELY FAR AWAY FROM BEING THE ONLY
ONE WHO FEELS THAT WAY ABOUT THIS INSANE CESSPOOL
TOWN..!
PERIOD.
Like them, you were born here and accepted what you were given.
YES, I WAS BORN HERE; THOUGH I DO NOT ACCEPT EVERYTHING
THAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN; BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT
OF SHIT IN MY LIFE.
Can this be un-done? Nope!
YES; THOUGH MAYBE ONLY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
Would people do these things today? No!
YES YES YES..!
TULSEY IS THE HIGHEST CRIME TOWN IN THE SHTATE OF
OKLAHOMA, ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS THAT I HAVE
READ.
THE NEWS MEDIA IN THIS PLACE, IS ALWAYS ENDLESS
BAD NEWS, AND I WAS ALSO CONTEMPLATING IF THE
T.P.D. [THE TULSA POLICE DEPARTMENT] ARE AS CORRUPT
AS THE OFFICIALS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO EFFECTIVELY
GOVERN THIS WASTE-TOWN.
THE T.P.D. IS A MAJORLY UNDER FUNDED ENTITY;
AND AS THE T.P.D. IS, IN THE HERE AND NOW, THE WAY
THAT THEY CARRY ON, MAKES THEM APPEAR AS THOUGH
THEY WANT TO FIGHT EVERYONE INSTEAD OF BEING MORE
BENEVOLENT AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, IN SERVING
AND PROTECTING THE PUBLIC..!
TULSA HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST TOTALLY CORRUPT
EMPIRE, IN OKLAHOMA..!
Certainly not! We, as humanity and as a culture have evolved
beyond those times.
YEAH WELL, MAYBE IN CERTAIN PLACES IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, BUT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS A PUNK
TOWN..!
Have you evolved? Or are you still spending all your time in the
past over which you have ZERO control?
THE PAST; I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PAST ANYMORE.
Why not spend your time in the present, where you DO have
plenty of control?
YES: TO THE FUTURE AND BEYOND!
> I'M TIRED.
So are we. It's late, I've been trying to recover data from a
hard drive with bearing problems, etc.
In other words, I am dealing with the present and looking toward
the future, not the past. The past is past, water under the bridge,
long gone down the river. I am here now. I struve to improve what I
can, and let pass what I can not change.
Might not be a bad thing for you to consider, Clyde. Change what
you can, let go of what you can not.
VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.....
Chem / Fungus allergies:
I NEED AN HONEST SOMEONE OUT THERE, WHO CAN
HONESTLY HELP MYSELF AND HELP OTHERS, WITH
THE CHEMICAL AND FUNGUS ALLERGIES PROBLEMS,
AND THE OVER ABUNDANCE OF ADRENALINE - THYROID
STORM ISSUE AS WELL.
TULSA THOUGH; IS THE MOST DISHONEST TOWN IN
THE SHTATE OF OKLAHOMA.
ALTHOUGH WHATEVER ALL OF THE WORKS THAT GO ON
IN THE OKLAHOMA SHTATE CAPITAL BUILDING ARE, IN O.K.C.
THOSE WORKS HAVE GOT TO BE AS EQUALLY AS
DISHONESTLY CORRUPT AS TULSA..!
OUR CURRENT GOVERNOR OF OKLAHOMA - EVERYTIME
THAT THE FUCKING TELEVISION MEDIA SHOWS HIM; HE
ALWAYS APPEARS TO BE A BRAINLESS, OR A BRAINDEAD
DUNCE, ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WORTHLESS NONSENSE,
THOUGH NOT DOING MUCH OF ANYTHING, IF EVEN DOING
ANYTHING AT ALL..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 07:54:53 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 07:54:57 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED FURTHER: Tulsa Townhall March Meetup/OFSA
In-Reply-To: <20060224144345.2987.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060224145453.52294.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Certainly not! We, as humanity and as a culture have evolved
beyond those times.
YEAH WELL, MAYBE IN CERTAIN PLACES OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, BUT TULSA OKLAHOMA IS A PUNK
TOWN..!
TULSEY TOWN IS IN ABSOLUTE DIRE NEED OF A FAR
FAR BETTER AND CLEAN LAW AND ORDER..!
I FEEL LIKE LISTENING TO A SONG RIGHT NOW, BY A
ROCK METAL BAND; QUEENSRYCHE;
THE SONG IS CALLED: RAGE FOR ORDER.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 08:53:06 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 08:53:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <5ec0868c4ce20ea5579d0058fb5daa9c@www.okhc.us>
Message-ID: <20060224155306.68141.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
IF ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE CAN HELP
OUT AT ALL; IT WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE.
SINCERELY, CLYDE
Oklahoma History Center < OKHC@OKHistory.org > wrote:
This is a copy of the following message you sent to Oklahoma History Center via Oklahoma History Center
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.okhistorycenter.org from:
CLYDE LOFTON, JR.
I would rather get a standard e-mail address
from you all, so that I could send the official letter that I have typed up, to you all, regarding the histories between Alsuma, between Union, between Broken Arrow, and between Tulsey Town, Oklahoma.
I want to find specific information on what
exactly went on at Boston Street, at downtown
Tulsa, at the exact historical spot of the
achitectural work; Known as The Center Of
The Universe - to find out if there may be
a potential buried Native American archeology
find, under that Tulsa spot - And to also find
out if there was a violent historical warring exchange between the early oilmen of Tulsey, and the Creek Native Americans at that time period, in Tulsey history.
Sincerely, Clyde Lofton Jr.
Tulsa
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From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 24 08:59:40 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Fri Feb 24 08:59:45 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] jurassic beaver found to have lived at same time
In-Reply-To: <245.764b0a2.31302e5b@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 24,
2006 04:39:39 AM
Message-ID: <20060224155940.61515.qmail@mall-net.com>
> so this begs the question - what really killed the dinosaurs if mammals
> continued to exist? Any meteor theory would include the mammals demise as well,
> I don't think any one thing killed of the dinosaurs. Lots of things and
> calamities over eons of time.
> One thing that I feel helped to bring about their end was their size and the
> number or them in their herd.
It is said they were large roaming migratory species going from
one end of the planet to the other. That would explain some of the need
for size.
One theory is that the continents split up enough that they could
no longer make it across. And so some of them were already on the way
out.
> Some dinosaurs were 10 times the size of a buffalo and also lived in herds.
> These beasts could not run and unless attacked most likely seldom moved at
> anything but a slow pace, like our elephant herds of today. Big, slow dinosaurs
> would have to be in the vicinity of their dung all their lives.
Not all of them! Some did a pretty good clip! Velociraptors,
running at 10 - 15 miles per hours with bursts maybe double that.
> The methane from mountains of dung, disease coming from the piles, the
> millions of flys (big ones I bet) would not have made life for them pleasant.
Well... depends how many and how dispersed the herd.
> I wonder what would have happened when there was a lightning strike in the
> area of a large deposit of methane?
Not much. I lived on a cattle ranch for close to two years. Even
when they ran a feedlot operation, methane was not a problem. Mold was!
Two months in a HEPA filter gas mask 24/7 when they ran the feedlot
across the road from my place. No need for activated charcoal, just
HEPA.
Remember, garbage in, garbage out. Need enough garbage to put it
to get that much out. These guys, being nomadic, are going to poop as
they move. Only animals which have a home range have any inclination to
designate a pooping area. And most don't. Those that do, more likely
designate no-pooping areas.
> I also wonder what happened to our sea creatures, and how the whale managed
> to come through all the upheavals that took out the monster sharks.
pH changes in the seas? Whales eat krill and other things low on
the food chain. Sharks eat much higher.
> The horse shoe crab still lives today, we use to bring home dead ones we
> found in the river. Stink, arg, parents wouldn't let their kids bring them
> anywhere near the house.
Yes. Trilobite relatives.
> We still have left over dinosaurs running around today and most are fast
> movers ,the ostrich is second fastest land animal.
What about the crocodile, kimodo dragon, etc.? Wonder how old they
are.
> Beaver are swift little guys too, perhaps speed was the defining marker that
> led to survival of the beasts. The ability to move away from their leavings
> in quick order.
Not good at sustained movement. Not enough energy in bark, not
long enough legs, not enough fuel storage mass.
We, fed on meat, can run down just about anything, including the
horse. We may not be fast; but we can sustain that motion. One friend
of mine, overweight, walking on foot for many hours, easily kept up
following a herd of deer to the point where some started to straggle,
unable to keep moving for lack of fuel. They kept moving because he
kept after them till they were just too tired and hungry to go on.
We own this world, and not just by jurisprudence. We can eat
almost anything, walk almost anywhere, and walk almost any prey down. It
is no accident that most wild animals instinctively fear us. We are
clearly Hominis Rex even without our swords and guns!
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
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Arthritis
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 09:19:26 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 09:19:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MAD HISTORIANS..?
Message-ID: <20060224161926.39868.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
DOES THIS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MAD
HISTORIANS OUT THERE; AND MAD SCIENTISTS
AS WELL..?
EVEN DOC BROWN, IN THE MOVIE: BACK
TO THE FUTURE THREE CONSULTED THE
TOWN LIBRARY FOR HISTORICAL INFO, ON
HIS TOWN.....
1. LINGUISTIC LISTS, OF ALL INGREDIENTS
IN ALL PHARMA-PSEUDOCAL SNAKE OILS;
LINGUISTIC LISTS OF ALL INGREDIENTS IN
ALL PHARMA-PSEUDOCAL DRUGS.
[- FOR THE MASS PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND
THE POISON OF WHICH THEY ARE BEING
OVERDOSED ON..!]
2. THE SECRETARY OF THE STATE OF
OKLAHOMA.
3. THE OKLAHOMA HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
4. THE CITY SEAL OF BROKEN ARROW
OKLAHOMA.
5. THE BATTLE OF TULSEY TOWN
OKLAHOMA.
6. THE BATTLE OF BROKEN ARROW.
OKLAHOMA
7. THE BATTLE OF UNION OKLAHOMA.
8. ['UNKNOWN'] ALSUMA OKLAHOMA
HISTORY..?
9. THE TULSA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10. OVER ORDINANCED..!
11. OVER RATED..!
12. OVER TAXED.
13. OVER WORKED.
14. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF TULSA
OKLAHOMA / OKLAHOMA.
15. - WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
16. THE TULSA GOVERNMENT.
17. THE BROKEN ARROW GOVERNMENT.
18. THE BROKEN ARROW OPTIMIST CLUB.
19. THE BATTLE CREEK GOLF COMMUNITY,
GOLF CLUB, AND GOLF COURSE; ETC.
20. THE INDIAN SPRINGS APARTMENTS
OF BROKEN ARROW.
21. CHRISTMAS PARTIES.
22. BASEBALL 'GAMES'.
23. THE BROKEN ARROW POLICE DEPARTMENT.
24. ALSUMA / ALSUMA CREEK / MINGO /
MINGO CREEK; AND TOPOGRAPHICAL
INFORMATION MAPS, W/ HISTORICAL NAMES
OF THE THE TULSA HAIKEY CREEK WATERSHED
CREEKS, AND THEIR AFFILIATION TO THE CREEK
NATIVE AMERICAN LANDS HISTORY, OF [THIS
[WASTELAND] AREA OF] BROKEN ARROW
ALSUMA UNION TULSA OKLAHOMA.
25. SONG LYRICS TO ONE:
http://www.lyricsonnet.com/mylyrics.php?id=81799&artist=CREED
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 09:48:38 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 09:48:46 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY;
AND THE MAD SCIENTISTS ARCHIVES.....
In-Reply-To: <20060119114032.39111.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060224164838.80190.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
MR. -,
I SPOKE WITH YOU ON THE TELEPHONE BRIEFLY,
YESTERDAY MORNING.
HERE IS THE WEBLINK TO THE MAD SCIENTISTS ARCHIVES,
WHERE YOU CAN READ WHAT I'VE POSTED; THE GOOD,
THE BAD, THE MAD, AND THE UGLY.
I HOPE YOU CAN LOOK PAST ALL OF THE CUSSING AND
EXPLICITNESS IN SOME OF THE POSTINGS.
YOU MIGHT GET A LOT OF LAUGHTER OUT OF SOME OF THE
POSTINGS, TOO.
http://www.mad-scientists.org/pipermail/mad-scientists/
THE BELOW TYPING, AND WEBLINKS, ARE A MODIFICATION
OF WHAT I'VE BEEN RANTING AND RAVING ABOUT FOR SO
VERY VERY LONG NOW; ABOUT A MANDATORY COOPERATIVE
MASS SCALE PRODUCTION EFFORT IN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, OF THE MASS PRODUCTION OF INTERSEGMENTAL
TRACTION TABLE THERAPY TECHNOLOGY FOR THE
BETTERMENT OF THE HEALTH OF ALL PEOPLE WITHIN THE
UNITED STATES, TO BETTER THE FUTURE OF AMERICA ALONG;
AND TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY ALL OVER
AGAIN; SINCE THIS COUNTRY HAS, FOR THE MOST PART, BEEN
SOLD OUT TO WORTHLESS COMMUNIST CRAP CHINA, AND
SOLD OUT TO THE MIDDLE EAST.....
SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON
TULSA, OKLAHOMA
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TECHNOLOGY THAT NEEDS A GRAND COOPERATIVE MASS SCALE
PRODUCTION EFFORT; HERE; IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA..!
TO ABSOLUTELY PROVE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
IS STILL THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TO LIVE IN, WITHOUT
EXCEPTION..!
CHIROPRACTIC INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY:
1. http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf
2. http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf#search='LSI%20Quantum%20International%20%20Intersegmental%20traction%20tables
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 09:48:49 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Fri Feb 24 09:49:00 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [REVISED:] ORAGENICS; TERRA-M; AND.....
Message-ID: <20060224164849.94647.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
REVISED:
-,
I HOPE THAT THIS INFORMATION
WILL BE OF HELP TO YOUR
FUTURE, AND HOPE THAT IT WILL
BE HELPFUL ALSO, TO
EVERYONE ELSE AT THE T.C.C.
DENTAL HYGIENE CLINIC, FOR
THE BETTERMENT OF THE
FUTURE.
I SINCERELY HOPE THAT IT WILL
BE OF BENEFIT TO THE ENTIRE
FUTURE HEALTH OF TULSA; THE
ENTIRE FUTURE HEALTH OF
OKLAHOMA; THE ENTIRE FUTURE
HEALTH OF THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA, AND THE ENTIRE
FUTURE HEALTH OF THE WORLD
IN WHICH WE LIVE.
SINCERELY,
CLYDE
TULSA
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From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Feb 24 12:18:14 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 24 12:18:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
Message-ID: <230.77a4de8.3130b5f6@aol.com>
Hi Clyde,
>Known as The Center Of
T>he Universe - to find out if there may be
>a potential buried Native American archeology
>find, under that Tulsa spot - And to also find
What year was this center of the universe constructed ??
The laws in your neck of the world have changed big time in the last few
years regarding archeology. When building just about anything out there the
construction can be brought to a dead stop because of just one pottery shard.
Construction crews know what to look for and because of the money involved
in a stop work order, it is not unthinkable for the crews to say nothing about
a find. Unless bones, human bones are found, and lots of them, nothing comes
to light.
Naturally this drives the local Indian tribes nuts, they try to get members
to get jobs on the crews and keep an eye out for artifacts.
The federal agency involved with these finds are so backed up that it is
about 2 years before anything can be done. Farmers that dig up any artifacts
don't mention them to anyone. If they did they would have to leave the area
unplowed for that long 2 year period until some one came out to take a look.
The German and Japanese are nuts over pueblo dwellers artifacts, they pay a
fortune for a small bowl even if it was found broken and glued back together.
For professional and hobby archeology artifact hunters, one must get all
kinds of permission from the land owner before artifacts are sold. Federal laws
are tricky and must be followed to the letter. Naturally one cannot take
anything off public land, not even a pebble.
> >- And to also find
>out if there was a violent historical warring exchange between the early
oilmen of Tulsey, >and the Creek Native Americans at that time period, in
Tulsey history.
Now Clyde, use your common sense here. No one in the history of man kind,
down to the cave dwellers built a town or lived anywhere but where there was
water. The cattle wars among the ranchers besides being over range most
often got bloody over water rights.
Indians need water as does all life on earth. Now do you think the Creek
Nation sat on their butts and did nothing when the cattle men or early oil men
came in, built a town, secured all water sources in a huge area, their area
???
Then I have yet to hear of a non-violent war between the Indians and anyone,
strangers or other tribes.
All wars are historical to some extent. I would imagine the Creek went
bug-shit over the cattle men , oil men and the ranchers that moved in and pushed
them out. Don't forget, before the white man came, the Indian Nations spent
their lives finding ways to feed themselves and fighting each other. They were
big slave traders before Europe got here. They taught the French all about
scalping and some northern tribes on occasions ate their captives. I understand
that the some south western tribes did the same, but if you mention the
historical data to any of these people today they go berserk. Eye wittiness by
french priests to their home court are denied down to their last breath.
Don't get caught up reading modern day history of the Creek Nation. If you
want the real deal find at library history written by people from the 18000eds.
By the early 19000eds some Indians related their life story's to
missionary's and those authors who wrote about the wild west. There are thousands of
diarys written by the white settlers of that time in history.
If you have a true interest in this time in history, if this is not just
another one of your attempts to make us think you have an interest in a
subject----
I have a challenge for you.
Go to your librarian and request information on the cattleman wars, and the
oil men with the Creek Indians.Tell them you need diarys, newspaper reports
from the time and biography's of the Indians themselves who related their
lives at that time.
If Louis Lamour could track down these reports, so can you.
When you begin to send us your findings, PLEASE DONT SEND THEM ALL AT ONCE
space them out to one a week, ok.
Then and only then will I read your posts and believe you are who and what
you say you are.
If you don't take me up on this challenge then I and some others will find
you a waste of our time and delete each and every message you send. This is
your chance Clyde to show us you are a serious person, that you really care
about the things you say.
I myself will give you 2 weeks before you begin to send us what you have
found. In your own words rather then a web link, I challenge you to find out the
answers to your questions and pass them on to us.By the way nothing written
before 1945 will be excepted, I want the fresh memories.
Remember Clyde, if you fail this challenge, choose to ignore it, or other
wise bunk out on it, I and some others will feel you are not sincere in any of
your following posts. Yes Clyde, I am calling your bluff, so get to work and
prove me wrong, if wrong I will apologize and ask forgiveness. Then the
shoe will be on the other foot, you may feel free to challenge me.
Regards Vesta
The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word.
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From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Fri Feb 24 14:29:37 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 16, Issue 74
In-Reply-To: <20060224190003.549043986D@kang.vjc.com>
Message-ID: <20060224212931.49387.qmail@web36110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>
>We, fed on meat, can run down just about anything, including the
>horse. We may not be fast; but we can sustain that motion. One friend
>of mine, overweight, walking on foot for many hours, easily kept up
>following a herd of deer to the point where some started to straggle,
>unable to keep moving for lack of fuel. They kept moving because he
>kept after them till they were just too tired and hungry to go on.
> We own this world, and not just by jurisprudence. We can eat
>almost anything, walk almost anywhere, and walk almost any prey down.
>It
>is no accident that most wild animals instinctively fear us. We are
>clearly Hominis Rex even without our swords and guns!"
I never thought about that - a pack of slow moving humans could concievably catch just about any animal and could defend against most predators. I suppose once we realized this we stopped being prey / scavengers and became the predators.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 05:46:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: FW: The ARRL Letter, Vol 25, No 08 (Feb 24,
2006)
In-Reply-To: <00d801c639d7$836c9100$6401a8c0@mikey>
Message-ID: <20060225124629.48156.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
I WANT AN IMMEDIATE ORDER, TO END TO BOTH THE ARBITRARY
LIMITS TO THE B.P.L. DATABASE, AND AN IMMEDIATE ORDER TO
END B.P.L. AND G.P.S. HARASSMENT, FROM THE GOVERNMENT
AND THE MEDIA..!
I AM TOTALLY SICK OF THE MEDIA AND THE GOVERNMENT OF
THIS FUCKED UP MODERN COUNTRY / THE COMMUNIST COMMIE
CHINESE CHINA CLINTON LEFT, AND THE NAZI FASCIST ARAB
MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST BUSH RIGHT, AND THE ABSOLUTELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL INSANE GOVERNMENT AND INSANE
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE WORKED TO FUCK UP
AND BUILD..!
CLYDE
Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote:
* +ARRL wants FCC to order halt to BPL database access limits.
===========================================================
==>LEAGUE TO FCC: ORDER AN END TO ARBITRARY ACCESS LIMITS TO BPL DATABASE
The ARRL has demanded that the FCC order the United Telecom Council (UTC) to
"cease its arbitrary limits" on access to the public BPL Interference
Resolution Web site . UTC administers the site,
which FCC Part 15 rules require to be "publicly available." In a complaint
2-06.pdf> filed February 23 with the FCC Office of Engineering and
Technology, the FCC Enforcement Bureau and UTC, the League charged UTC with
"arbitrarily and unlawfully" preventing some individuals and
organizations--including ARRL--from utilizing the BPL database.
"Quite simply, UTC's 'management' of this database has in a very short time
proven a shambles," ARRL General Counsel Chris Imlay, W3KD, wrote on the
League's behalf. "The Commission has taken no action in response to any BPL
interference complaints, but UTC's restricting access to the database is
directly and overtly contrary to the specific language of both the Report
and Order (R&O) and ?15.615 of the Commission's rules."
According to the complaint, ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ, found himself
locked out of the BPL database February 14 after attempting to search a
particular ZIP code. An "error" message warned: "The System has determined
that this line of searching constitues [sic] unauthorized use of the
database. Cease operations immediately."
"There was no unauthorized use of the database," Imlay said, adding that an
ARRL staff member got the same message after trying to search two ZIP codes
from an "arrl.org" domain address. "It was apparent thereafter that anyone
using an 'arrl.org' domain name was unilaterally shut out of the database by
UTC for an indeterminate amount of time," the complaint continued.
Imlay also cited the experience of Gary Zabriskie, N7ARE, the secretary of
the Dixie Amateur Radio Club in Utah. On February 15, he attempted a search
covering several ZIP codes in his club's membership area to report any BPL
trials or rollouts to members. After entering the third ZIP code, he
received the same "error" message. The next week, Imlay noted, a member of
the ARRL Laboratory staff conducted a series of searches to determine if
previously noted discrepancies in the database had been corrected. After
entering his seventh ZIP code search, he received a message indicating that
he had exceeded his search limit, "though you may try again later," it
added.
A advisory on the BPL Interference Resolution Web Site page states: "Access
via scripted or automated programs is prohibited. Each individual is allowed
to search a limited number of times. Individuals are advised not to conduct
random searches of the database, or their access to the database may be
further restricted."
"The limits placed unilaterally and apparently variably on searches of the
database are each and all improper," the ARRL complaint asserted. "There is
nothing in any Commission document that authorizes UTC to limit access to
the database whatsoever. Worse, UTC has decided to limit public access
arbitrarily by IP address or by domain name, and apparently as few as three
ZIP code searches trigger the cutoff mechanism." The League said there is no
technical reason to limit the search function.
The League maintains that the design of the database and the restricted
access are "clearly intended to frustrate the Commission's purpose" in
requiring the database in the first place and "to inhibit complaints of
interference" from BPL systems. As a result, the ARRL says, the FCC should
immediately rescind UTC's appointment as the BPL database administrator or
order UTC to end its arbitrary limits on access to the database.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 06:43:01 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 06:43:08 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A LITTLE MORE MIXTURE OF TULSA STUFF FROM THIS
FASCIST AND COMMUNIST PUNK CURSED TOWN.
Message-ID: <20060225134301.64989.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com>
A LITTLE MORE MIXTURE TULSA STUFF FROM
THIS FASCIST AND COMMUNIST PUNK CURSED TOWN:
RIOT AND REMEMBERANCE:
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?texttype=excerpt&titlenumber=698153
THE BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES
DATABASE:
http://www.bpldatabase.org/
PARTY TIME:
http://www.tulsaweb.com/partytim.htm
ORAL, AND OTHER SEXUAL ACTS:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oralverkehr
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 06:48:00 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 06:48:31 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <230.77a4de8.3130b5f6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060225134800.14274.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
Hi Clyde,
HEY VESTA.
If you don't take me up on this challenge then I and some others will find you a waste of our time and delete each and every message you send. Yes Clyde, I am calling your bluff, so get to work and prove me wrong, if wrong I will apologize and ask forgiveness. Then the shoe will be on the other foot, you may feel free to challenge me.
TOO BAD THAT I AM NOT HERE TO IMPRESS YOU AND / OR THE
OTHERS..!
JUST TRYING TO MAKE MY WAY, THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN..!
CLYDE
Regards Vesta
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 07:00:17 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PEACE AND QUIET IN TULSA..!
Message-ID: <20060225140014.73676.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 07:14:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PARTY'S OVER ; BY RICHARD HEINBERG.
Message-ID: <20060225141436.83217.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
PARTY'S OVER; BY RICHARD HEINBERG:
http://www.museletter.com/partys-over.html
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 07:26:49 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 07:26:57 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LIKE LIEUTENANT DAN.....
Message-ID: <20060225142649.35533.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
LIKE LIEUTENANT DAN; I SAY GOD DAMN
BLESS AMERICA..!
WITH A COMPASSION TOWARD ALL OF
THOSE HOMELESS AND FORGOTTEN WAR
VETERANS WHO WANDER THE
WASTELAND STREETS OF THIS CESSPOOL
SLUM TOWN; WHILE ORAL HOMOSEXUAL
ROBERTS AND THE KAISER FINE DINE AND
WINE IN THIER FUCKING GLITZ AND GLAMOUR
TRADE TOWERS, OVER THIS GOD DAMNED
AND MAN DAMNED WASTELAND, OF MODERN
DAY TULSEY TOWN OKLAHOMA..!
JUST ANOTHER ANGRY CIVILIAN OF TULSA
OKLAHOMA,
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 07:28:02 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 07:28:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INJUSTICE FOR ALL , I GUESS.
Message-ID: <20060225142802.25885.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com>
1. INJUSTICES OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
2. INJUSTICES OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS.
3. NO EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.
4. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.
5. BIN LADEN AND BUSH ADMINISTRATION
SCANDALS / SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, 2001.
6. HOMELESS VETERANS.
7. TOTAL GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.
ETC.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 07:36:51 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 07:36:56 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MORAL REVIVAL + TECHNICAL REVIVAL / TECHNICAL
REVIVAL + MORAL REVIVAL..!
In-Reply-To: <20060218011229.25390.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060225143651.42472.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
MORAL REVIVAL + TECHNICAL REVIVAL /
TECHNICAL REVIVAL + MORAL REVIVAL :
1. IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE
MORAL REVIVAL WITHOUT TECHNICAL
REVIVAL..!
2. IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE
TECHNICAL REVIVAL WITHOUT MORAL
REVIVAL..!
THE ABOVE TWO TOPICS HAVE
ABSOLUTELY ZERO MUTUAL
EXCLUSIVENESS FROM ONE ANOTHER..!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 25 11:17:53 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 25 11:18:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20060225134800.14274.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 25, 2006 05:48:00 AM
Message-ID: <20060225181753.16242.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
> Yes Clyde, I am calling your bluff, so get to work and prove me wrong,
> if wrong I will apologize and ask forgiveness. Then the shoe will be
> on the other foot, you may feel free to challenge me.
>
> TOO BAD THAT I AM NOT HERE TO IMPRESS YOU AND / OR THE
> OTHERS..!
As I, and probably many others see this, it is not a request for
you to impress us. It is a request from one scientist to another to show
that what you have stated is not mere opinion but has substantial
experimental (in this case historical) basis. In other words, to back up
your opinion with Facts held together with some minor amount of logic.
Carl Sagan said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
proof.
You have made extraordinary claims; claims we do not see as likely
true because they are not in keeping with our professional experiences,
nor life experiences.
Thus, we ask for proof that your statements have merit. In the
true scientific tradition, we echo Vesta's request that you show us the
research supporting your opinions.
Scientists are the least believing bunch of people on this planet!
We demand proof! You say water freezes? Prove it! Prove it with
photographs, prove it with tables of relevant data that WE may replicate
your experiments, or prove it with citations of articles written by
others who lay out their proof that we may repeat their experiments.
THAT is what science is all about!
And the mad scientist experience isn't simply when you are not
believed, for at the outset, scientists do not usually believe each
other, that is why they repeat each other's experiments; The true mad
scientist experience is when no one will repeat your experiments!
We want to repeat your "experiments"! We want to see the proof of
what you say! We are being generous about this, asking you for proof
instead of just saying you are fabricating it all. We want to see what
basis you have for your statements, to see if WE might have missed
something... or maybe get you to see that you have missed something.
And given that we almost always miss something... well, that's why we
expect to have others re-do our experiments! We want to know.
As scientists, we believe finding out is far, far more important
than our egos, our sense of being right. THAT is what science is all
about!
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 19:29:00 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 19:29:04 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY FIRST TRANSLATION OF THE LORD'S PRAYER.
Message-ID: <20060226022900.91784.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
MY FIRST TRANSLATION OF THE LORD'S PRAYER:
OUR FATHER WHO EXISTS IN HEAVEN;
HALO-[ED] BE YOUR NAME.
MAY YOUR KINDOM CUM; ['COME']; AND
MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE; ['DUN'];
ON EARTH AS IT EXISTS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE TO US, [THIS] DAY; AND ITS DAILY
FOOD AND BREAD; AND FORGIVE US
OF OUR DEBTS AND OF OUR
TRESSPASSES AGAINST OTHERS; AS
WE BOTH FORGIVE THOSE WHO ARE
INDEBTED TO US; AND AS WE FORGIVE
THOSE WHO HAVE TRESSPASSED
AGAINST US.
LEAD ALL OF US OUT OF ALL
TEMPTATION;
LEAD ALL OF US AWAY FROM ALL
TEMPTATION;
REMOVE ALL OF US FROM ALL EVIL;
AND TAKE ALL OF US OUT OF ALL EVIL.
BECAUSE:
1. YOU ARE THE KINGDOM.
2. YOU ARE THE POWER.
AND:
3. YOU ARE THE GLORY.
AMEN..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 19:36:06 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 19:36:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20060225181753.16242.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060226023606.93735.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Carl Sagan said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
proof.
You have made extraordinary claims;
I'M AWARE OF THE CARL SAGAN QUOTATION;
THOUGH I DON'T RECALL MAKING AN EXTRAORDINARY
CLAIM REGARDING ANY HISTORICAL TOPICS..!
I WAS ONLY REQUESTING ANY POTENTIAL HELPFUL
FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL; IF SUCH WAS POSSIBLE.
I'M WORE OUT RIGHT NOW, AND SO ITS GOING TO
HAVE TO GO SHELVED FOR MAYBE A DAY OR
TWO.
I FINALLY GOT AWAY FROM TULSA TODAY; AND
WENT ON A ROAD TRIP TO THE COUNTRY, TO GET
AWAY FROM ALL OF THE NEUROTIC ELECTRICAL
HELL OF TULSA TOWN.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 19:57:41 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 19:57:49 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
RELATIVE TO THE TOWER OF BABEL AND RACE.
Message-ID: <20060226025741.24424.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES
THAT I HAVE PONDERED, SINCE MY
ENLIGHTENMENT - ARE THE RELATIVITIES
BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF BABEL
STORY; BETWEEN THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS
THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT, THROUGHOUT THE
HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND EVERYONE
OF US COLORED PEOPLE OF THE HUMAN RACE
[BLACK; WHITE; RED; YELLOW; BROWN; PINK;
BLUE; GREEN; ETC..... AND THE DIFFERING
CULTURES, THE DIFFERING CREEDS, THE
DIFFERING RELIGIONS, ETC, AND THE RELATIONS
TO BOTH SEXUALITY, AND TO SEXUAL
ORIENTATIONS OF ALL PEOPLE.
A PRIME EXAMPLE IS THE RELATIVITY OF
SEXUAL BEHAVIOR OF THE BLACK RACE,
RELATIVE TO THAT OF THE WHITE RACE, AND
THE SEEMING IRONIES, CONFLICTS, CONTRADICTIONS,
CONTROVERSIES AND CONSPIRACIES BETWEEN
ALL OF US.
I WILL ADD MORE TO THIS TOPIC TOMORROW; IF
THERE IS ANYTHING REMAINING TO ADD TO IT.
CLYDE
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 25 21:15:12 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
In-Reply-To: <20060226025741.24424.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 25, 2006 06:57:41 PM
Message-ID: <20060226041508.18856.qmail@mall-net.com>
> ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES
> THAT I HAVE PONDERED, SINCE MY
> ENLIGHTENMENT - ARE THE RELATIVITIES
> BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF BABEL
> STORY; BETWEEN THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS
> THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT, THROUGHOUT THE
> HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND EVERYONE
Tribes of monkeys fight against each other over territory and
resources. Tribes of humans have always fought each other over territory
and resources. So why should some dumb tower make any difference?
More than likely, it was something that was outsourced by the
Babylonian government, and then they found out their contractors didn't
understand what they had asked for. Or they had to many immigrant or
slave workers that didn't speak the same language.
Some problems, we just don't want to acknowledge! And so we make
them over and over and over again forever!
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 25 21:19:09 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sat Feb 25 21:19:13 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PERTAINING TO THE SCIENCE OF ARCHEOLOGY.
In-Reply-To: <20060226023606.93735.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 25, 2006 06:36:06 PM
Message-ID: <20060226041909.22034.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Carl Sagan said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
> proof.
>
> You have made extraordinary claims;
>
> I'M AWARE OF THE CARL SAGAN QUOTATION;
> THOUGH I DON'T RECALL MAKING AN EXTRAORDINARY
> CLAIM REGARDING ANY HISTORICAL TOPICS..!
You have made extraordinary claims over and over again. Things about
indians, about Tulsa, about Babylon, etc.
> I WAS ONLY REQUESTING ANY POTENTIAL HELPFUL
> FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL; IF SUCH WAS POSSIBLE.
You made claims. I didn't really pay attention to what you were
saying about archeology, but one of us challenged you on it, and I am
backing them up, because you always take a particularly unlikely dim
view of things. Humanity does not need to be saved from itself! We
are getting better and better, saving ourselves from situations that
hindered humanity before.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 23:33:05 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sat Feb 25 23:33:12 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
In-Reply-To: <20060226041508.18856.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060226063305.65396.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES
> THAT I HAVE PONDERED, SINCE MY
> ENLIGHTENMENT - ARE THE RELATIVITIES
> BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF BABEL
> STORY; BETWEEN THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS
> THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT, THROUGHOUT THE
> HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND EVERYONE
Tribes of monkeys fight against each other over territory and
resources.
YES.
Tribes of humans have always fought each other over territory
and resources.
ALWAYS?
THAT SHOULDN'T INCLUDE ALWAYS, SHOULD IT?
I MEAN; WITH MODERN DAY REALTORS -
REALTORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HIGHLY
HIGHLY PRICEY, THE WEALTHY FOLKS SEEM TO
GET ALONG PRETTY WELL WITH REALTORS -
AND MANY MANY WEALTHY FOLKS TEND TO
HAVE A LOT OF REALTY EXPERIENCE AS WELL;
THOUGH THERE IS ALWAYS THE WEALTHY
UPPER CLASS OPPRESSION OF THE MIDDLE
AND LOWER CLASSES, BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL,
ECONOMIC, AND POLITICAL DIVIDE; THOUGH THAT
DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE SO - BECAUSE
THERE ARE MEDIATORS BETWEEN THE CLASSES.
I'M TIRED, AND SO I HOPE THE ABOVE TYPING
MAKES SENSE.
So why should some dumb tower make any difference?
I DON'T KNOW; BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WORDING
IT AS: SOME DUMB TOWER!
HERE IN TULSA, THAT SOME DUMB TOWER IS THE
WILLIAMS CENTER TOWER OF BABEL; CURRENTLY
OWNED BY THE BANKING BILLIONAIRE: GEORGE [THE]
KAISER.
More than likely, it was something that was outsourced by the
Babylonian government,
GOOD POINT; AND NOT SOME DUMB GODLY OR GODLIKE
INTERVENTION; THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN ALTERNATIVE
TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AT THAT TIME PERIOD, AND
THE SCATTERING OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND THE HUMAN
GENOME AROUND THE GLOBE, TO VARIOUS PLACES, TO
DELIBERATELY MAKE MASS CONFUSION BETWEEN ALL
OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET; THOUGH THAT IS ONLY
AN ALTERNATIVE THEORY.
IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE; WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT
OR ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR THAT TO NECCESSARILY BE
TRUE.
and then they found out their contractors didn't
understand what they had asked for. Or they had to many immigrant or
slave workers that didn't speak the same language.
RIGHT ON!
Some problems, we just don't want to acknowledge! And so we make
them over and over and over again forever!
RIGHT ON!
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From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 00:17:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
In-Reply-To: <20060226063305.65396.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 25, 2006 10:33:05 PM
Message-ID: <20060226071722.13524.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES
> > THAT I HAVE PONDERED, SINCE MY
> > ENLIGHTENMENT - ARE THE RELATIVITIES
> > BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF BABEL
> > STORY; BETWEEN THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS
> > THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT, THROUGHOUT THE
> > HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND EVERYONE
>
> Tribes of monkeys fight against each other over territory and
> resources.
>
> YES.
>
> Tribes of humans have always fought each other over territory
> and resources.
>
> ALWAYS?
> THAT SHOULDN'T INCLUDE ALWAYS, SHOULD IT?
> I MEAN; WITH MODERN DAY REALTORS -
> REALTORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HIGHLY
Even today: Darfur, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central Africa, etc. Always.
Even today in the USA -- eminent domain battles in court, easement
rights (a battle I've fought) and such.
> HIGHLY PRICEY, THE WEALTHY FOLKS SEEM TO
> GET ALONG PRETTY WELL WITH REALTORS -
> AND MANY MANY WEALTHY FOLKS TEND TO
> HAVE A LOT OF REALTY EXPERIENCE AS WELL;
> THOUGH THERE IS ALWAYS THE WEALTHY
> UPPER CLASS OPPRESSION OF THE MIDDLE
> AND LOWER CLASSES, BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL,
> ECONOMIC, AND POLITICAL DIVIDE; THOUGH THAT
> DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE SO - BECAUSE
> THERE ARE MEDIATORS BETWEEN THE CLASSES.
Stop thinking like a communist. The wealthy do not oppress anyone.
They hire them! They offer them money in exchange for labor. It's the
under classes who do not, by and large, have a clue as to how to make a
living without a job.
In a democracy where the workers can walk away to take another job,
you CAN NOT oppress anyone and get away with it! They QUIT! And by and
large, low paid unhappy workers do not produce as much per dollar spent
as happy well paid workers.
The only chance is a monopoly or a restraint of trade conspiracy,
which is illegal. Rockefeller tried that wth Standard Oil. Wham! Many
little oil companies. IBM tried that with punch cards, WHAM!. AT&T tried
that, and WHAM! Microsoft tried that... and got whacked, but not hard
enough. Roche and others tried that with vitamin C and WHAM! Dept of
Justice and FTC go after those people! Not often enough, but they do
beat them up.
> I'M TIRED, AND SO I HOPE THE ABOVE TYPING
> MAKES SENSE.
No it does not. Not in the Western Paradigm. In the communist
model... that's the propaganda they use.
> So why should some dumb tower make any difference?
>
> I DON'T KNOW; BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WORDING
> IT AS: SOME DUMB TOWER!
> HERE IN TULSA, THAT SOME DUMB TOWER IS THE
> WILLIAMS CENTER TOWER OF BABEL; CURRENTLY
> OWNED BY THE BANKING BILLIONAIRE: GEORGE [THE]
> KAISER.
Forget Tulsa! It's not relevant to your argument!
> More than likely, it was something that was outsourced by the
> Babylonian government,
>
> GOOD POINT; AND NOT SOME DUMB GODLY OR GODLIKE
> INTERVENTION; THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN ALTERNATIVE
> TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AT THAT TIME PERIOD, AND
> THE SCATTERING OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND THE HUMAN
> GENOME AROUND THE GLOBE, TO VARIOUS PLACES, TO
> DELIBERATELY MAKE MASS CONFUSION BETWEEN ALL
> OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET; THOUGH THAT IS ONLY
> AN ALTERNATIVE THEORY.
> IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE; WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT
> OR ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR THAT TO NECCESSARILY BE
> TRUE.
Normal migrations are adequate to explain the spread of humanity.
Indeed, genetic analysis indicates slow and gradual spreading. No
extraordinary means needed.
Michlove and his crazy mythologies are one thing. Hard, cold
evidence is another!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 08:16:31 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 26 08:16:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
In-Reply-To: <20060226071722.13524.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060226151631.19425.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Even today: Darfur, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central Africa, etc. Always.
Even today in the USA -- eminent domain battles in court, easement
rights (a battle I've fought) and such.
YES; EMINENT [KOMMUNIST] DOMAIN RUNS RAMPANT, HERE
IN INDUSTRIAL NAZI AND COMMIE WASTELAND; TULSA OKLAHOMA.
EASEMENTS IN THIS OVER ORDINANCED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION,
INDUSTRIAL SLUMBURB OF ALSUMA UNION TULSA ARE AS
TIGHTLY SPACED TOGETHER AS IS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THE
SHITTY OF TULSA OFFICIALS CAN START DISPUTES WITH
RESIDENTS TO MAKE OBSCENE LARGE AMOUNTS OF PROFITS,
AND SCREW THE RESIDENTS OF THIS SHITHOLE WASTELAND.
THEY ALSO DESIGNED IT THAT WAY, SO THAT KOMMUNIST
AND FASCIST NEIGHBORS CANNOT GET ALONG WITH EACH
OTHER.
I JUST WANT TO MOVE OUT TO THE COUNTRY - TO MOVE OUT OF,
AND AWAY FROM THE KOMMUNE OF WHERE I AM PRESENTLY
ENFORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE, SINCE TRANSPORTATION IS SO
OVERLY COMPLICATED AND SO OVERLY EXPENSIVE, AND SO
OVERLY INEFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE..!
THE INFERNAL SLUDGE SMUCKIN' ENGINE, AND ALL OF ITS NONSENSICAL STUPID SHINY GLITZ AND GLAMOUR FLASHINESS -
ALL OF ITS NONSENSICAL COMPLICATED [""""""""HIGH TECH"""""""""..!]
COMPUTERIZED AND OTHER NONSENSICAL GOD DAMNED AND MAN
DAMNED BULLSHIT UNDER THE HOODS AND IN THE DASHES OF ALL AUTOMOBILES MAKES A HAPPY AND UNDEPENDENT LIFE FOR
EVERYONE, AN ABSOLUTE IMPOSSIBILITY..!
THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY I AM SO FRUSTRATED
AND ANGRY WITH WHAT MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER TO BE LIFE..!
WITH NO ESTABLISHED EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM OF THE REQUIRED TOTALITARIAN AUTOMECHANICAL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, EQUAL FOR EVERYONE WITHOUT
EXCEPTION; THIS COUNTRY IS GOING STRAIGHT DOWN THE TUBES
BECAUSE OF IT..!
A FUTURE WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE ENTIRELY UNEDUCATED
ABOUT THE ENDLESS PLANNED OBSOLESCENT ENGINES AND
VEHICLES, FROM THE DETROIT ASSEMBLY LINES THAT NEVER END;
WHAT KIND OF FUTURE DO WE ALL CALL THAT???????.........
A COMPLETELY FUTILE; BLEAK; AND HOPELESS FUTURE; EQUAL
FOR EVERYONE OF US TO SHARE AND TO SUFFER IN; UNLESS
THERE COULD BE SOME MIRACLE TECHNOLOGIES OUT THERE,
TO CHANGE THINGS FOR US ALL; FOR THE TOTAL TECHNICAL
POSITIVE BETTERMENT OF HUMANITY.
THE WAY THAT WE ARE ALL NOW; WE ARE ON A HIGH SPEED
CRASH COURSE - STRAIGHT TO TOTAL DESTRUCTION AND
DEATH; DRIVING OURSELVES FASTER AND FASTER TOWARD A
CLIFF; A CLIFF THAT IS LIKE THE GRAND CANYON..!
> HIGHLY PRICEY, THE WEALTHY FOLKS SEEM TO
> GET ALONG PRETTY WELL WITH REALTORS -
> AND MANY MANY WEALTHY FOLKS TEND TO
> HAVE A LOT OF REALTY EXPERIENCE AS WELL;
> THOUGH THERE IS ALWAYS THE WEALTHY
> UPPER CLASS OPPRESSION OF THE MIDDLE
> AND LOWER CLASSES, BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL,
> ECONOMIC, AND POLITICAL DIVIDE; THOUGH THAT
> DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE SO - BECAUSE
> THERE ARE MEDIATORS BETWEEN THE CLASSES.
Stop thinking like a communist.
OK; WELL I HAVE SPENT SO MUCH OF MY TIME THINKING
LIKE A FASCIST; BUT FASCISM IS EVIDENTLY OPPOSITIONAL
TO PROGRESSIONISM; BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND; ISN'T
COMMUNISM OPPOSITIONAL TO PROGRESSIONISM AS WELL..?
AND CAPITALISM FOR THE MOST PART, HERE IN AMERICA,
HAS BECOME A TOTALITARIAN BUREAUCRATIC DESPOTIC
DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE HELL ON EARTH, FOR SO MANY
PEOPLE.
The wealthy do not oppress anyone.
I BEG TO DIFFER; THOUGH HERE IN AMERICA, WE DO HAVE
PHILANTHROPIST WEALTHY; PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEIR
PHILANTHROPIES APPEAR TO ALWAYS GO TOWARD
USELESS AND WASTEFUL WAYS AND MEANS; AND NEVER TO
THE ACTUAL IMPROVMENT OF ANYTHING IN SOCIETY, FOR THE
LARGE SCALE OF PEOPLE; AS HAS BEEN A PRIME EXAMPLE
CASE IN THE FASCIST / KOMMUNIST SLUDGEPIT EMPIRE
OF TULSA OKLAHOMA.
They hire them!
YES THEY DO; YOU ARE RIGHT.
They offer them money in exchange for labor. It's the
under classes who do not, by and large, have a clue as to how to
make a living without a job.
RIGHT..!
THOUGH WITH ABSOLUTLEY ZERO EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
IN PLACE, TO EDUCATE THE LOWER CLASSES; SOCIETY
AND INFRASTRUCTURE CRUMBLE; OF WHICH HAS BEEN VERY
MUCH THE CASE IN FASCIST / KOMMUNIST TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
In a democracy where the workers can walk away to take another job,
you CAN NOT oppress anyone and get away with it! They QUIT! And by and
large, low paid unhappy workers do not produce as much per dollar spent
as happy well paid workers.
YES.
The only chance is a monopoly or a restraint of trade conspiracy,
which is illegal. Rockefeller tried that wth Standard Oil. Wham! Many
little oil companies. IBM tried that with punch cards, WHAM!. AT&T tried
that, and WHAM! Microsoft tried that... and got whacked, but not hard
enough. Roche and others tried that with vitamin C and WHAM! Dept of
Justice and FTC go after those people! Not often enough, but they do
beat them up.
THE DESPOTIC OF INJUSTICE, AND THE FASCIST TRADE
KOMMUNE-ISSION ARE AS EQUALLY KORRUPT AS ARE THE
ENTITIES IN WHICH THEY TRY TO GOVERN, WITH BRIBERY,
MONEY LAUNDERING, AND OHTER CONTROVERSY, CONSPIRACY,
ETC, AGAINST WE THE POPULACE OF PEOPLE..!
> I'M TIRED, AND SO I HOPE THE ABOVE TYPING
> MAKES SENSE.
No it does not. Not in the Western Paradigm. In the communist
model... that's the propaganda they use.
OK;
NOT ONLY DO THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS NEED DRASTIC
ABSOLUTE IMPROVEMENT - WE THE MASSES OF PEOPLE
NEED OUR BRAINS, OUR MINDS, OUR HEARTS, AND OUR
ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMS ABSOLUTELY IMPROVED,
EQUALLY..!
> So why should some dumb tower make any difference?
>
> I DON'T KNOW; BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WORDING
> IT AS: SOME DUMB TOWER!
> HERE IN TULSA, THAT SOME DUMB TOWER IS THE
> WILLIAMS CENTER TOWER OF BABEL; CURRENTLY
> OWNED BY THE BANKING BILLIONAIRE: GEORGE [THE]
> KAISER.
Forget Tulsa! It's not relevant to your argument!
TULSA, AS ARE ALL OTHER MAJOR METROPOLIS TOWNS AND
CITIES, ARE TOTALLY 100% ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY RELEVANT
TO THE TOPIC..!
> More than likely, it was something that was outsourced by the
> Babylonian government,
>
> GOOD POINT; AND NOT SOME DUMB GODLY OR GODLIKE
> INTERVENTION; THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN ALTERNATIVE
> TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AT THAT TIME PERIOD, AND
> THE SCATTERING OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND THE HUMAN
> GENOME AROUND THE GLOBE, TO VARIOUS PLACES, TO
> DELIBERATELY MAKE MASS CONFUSION BETWEEN ALL
> OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET; THOUGH THAT IS ONLY
> AN ALTERNATIVE THEORY.
> IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE; WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT
> OR ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR THAT TO NECCESSARILY BE
> TRUE.
Normal migrations are adequate to explain the spread of humanity.
YES; THAT IS A SUFFICIENT EXPLANATION.
Indeed, genetic analysis indicates slow and gradual spreading. No
extraordinary means needed.
YES; THOUGH IT ISN'T NECCESSARILY WRITTEN IN STONE;
UNLESS WE ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ANY SUPPRESSED
CRYPTIC WRITINGS AT THE GREAT PYRIMIDS OF GIZA EGYPT,
AND THE GREAT PYRAMIDS IN MEXICO AND SOUTH AMERICA;
OR CRYPTIC WRITINGS THAT HAVE YET TO INTERPRETED BY
MOST OF THE BRAINLESS MASSES OF PEOPLE OUT THERE..!
Michlove and his crazy mythologies are one thing.
I DON'T KNOW WHO MICHLOVE IS.
Hard, cold evidence is another!
YES.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 26 12:01:06 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 12:01:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
In-Reply-To: <20060226151631.19425.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 26, 2006 07:16:31 AM
Message-ID: <20060226190106.12487.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Stop thinking like a communist.
>
> OK; WELL I HAVE SPENT SO MUCH OF MY TIME THINKING
> LIKE A FASCIST; BUT FASCISM IS EVIDENTLY OPPOSITIONAL
> TO PROGRESSIONISM; BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND; ISN'T
> COMMUNISM OPPOSITIONAL TO PROGRESSIONISM AS WELL..?
> AND CAPITALISM FOR THE MOST PART, HERE IN AMERICA,
> HAS BECOME A TOTALITARIAN BUREAUCRATIC DESPOTIC
> DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE HELL ON EARTH, FOR SO MANY
> PEOPLE.
Klyde, you're not thinking. You are just borrowing the thoughts of
others WITHOUT tracing those thoughts back to the critical reasoning.
> The wealthy do not oppress anyone.
>
> I BEG TO DIFFER; THOUGH HERE IN AMERICA, WE DO HAVE
> PHILANTHROPIST WEALTHY; PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEIR
> PHILANTHROPIES APPEAR TO ALWAYS GO TOWARD
> USELESS AND WASTEFUL WAYS AND MEANS; AND NEVER TO
> THE ACTUAL IMPROVMENT OF ANYTHING IN SOCIETY, FOR THE
> LARGE SCALE OF PEOPLE; AS HAS BEEN A PRIME EXAMPLE
> CASE IN THE FASCIST / KOMMUNIST SLUDGEPIT EMPIRE
> OF TULSA OKLAHOMA.
Clyde, philanthropy does nothing much worth while. It's the
PEOPLE who do things!
Give couple billion to Tulsa's government, and you'll get street
repairs. Help Tulsans earn a few billion more, and you'll see more
life in the streets as people improve their homes and lives.
All the wealthy do, is produce products for people. That's
fundamentally the only way to get really wealthy.
> They hire them!
>
> YES THEY DO; YOU ARE RIGHT.
>
> They offer them money in exchange for labor. It's the
> under classes who do not, by and large, have a clue as to how to
> make a living without a job.
>
> RIGHT..!
> THOUGH WITH ABSOLUTLEY ZERO EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
> IN PLACE, TO EDUCATE THE LOWER CLASSES; SOCIETY
> AND INFRASTRUCTURE CRUMBLE; OF WHICH HAS BEEN VERY
> MUCH THE CASE IN FASCIST / KOMMUNIST TULSA OKLAHOMA..!
No, those who want, despite poor education, DO fairly well in life.
Those who don't want... no amount of education can help.
> In a democracy where the workers can walk away to take another job,
> you CAN NOT oppress anyone and get away with it! They QUIT! And by and
> large, low paid unhappy workers do not produce as much per dollar spent
> as happy well paid workers.
>
> YES.
>
> The only chance is a monopoly or a restraint of trade conspiracy,
> which is illegal. Rockefeller tried that wth Standard Oil. Wham! Many
> little oil companies. IBM tried that with punch cards, WHAM!. AT&T tried
> that, and WHAM! Microsoft tried that... and got whacked, but not hard
> enough. Roche and others tried that with vitamin C and WHAM! Dept of
> Justice and FTC go after those people! Not often enough, but they do
> beat them up.
>
> THE DESPOTIC OF INJUSTICE, AND THE FASCIST TRADE
> KOMMUNE-ISSION ARE AS EQUALLY KORRUPT AS ARE THE
> ENTITIES IN WHICH THEY TRY TO GOVERN, WITH BRIBERY,
> MONEY LAUNDERING, AND OHTER CONTROVERSY, CONSPIRACY,
> ETC, AGAINST WE THE POPULACE OF PEOPLE..!
Very, very little of that goes on!
> > I'M TIRED, AND SO I HOPE THE ABOVE TYPING
> > MAKES SENSE.
>
> No it does not. Not in the Western Paradigm. In the communist
> model... that's the propaganda they use.
>
> OK;
> NOT ONLY DO THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS NEED DRASTIC
> ABSOLUTE IMPROVEMENT - WE THE MASSES OF PEOPLE
> NEED OUR BRAINS, OUR MINDS, OUR HEARTS, AND OUR
> ENTIRE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMS ABSOLUTELY IMPROVED,
> EQUALLY..!
You can't educate people to want to improve themselves, nor to want
to think. Examples help... but most people would rather die than think.
And most do...
> > So why should some dumb tower make any difference?
> >
> > I DON'T KNOW; BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WORDING
> > IT AS: SOME DUMB TOWER!
> > HERE IN TULSA, THAT SOME DUMB TOWER IS THE
> > WILLIAMS CENTER TOWER OF BABEL; CURRENTLY
> > OWNED BY THE BANKING BILLIONAIRE: GEORGE [THE]
> > KAISER.
>
> Forget Tulsa! It's not relevant to your argument!
>
> TULSA, AS ARE ALL OTHER MAJOR METROPOLIS TOWNS AND
> CITIES, ARE TOTALLY 100% ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY RELEVANT
> TO THE TOPIC..!
We're talking about archaeology and Babylon.
> > More than likely, it was something that was outsourced by the
> > Babylonian government,
> >
> > GOOD POINT; AND NOT SOME DUMB GODLY OR GODLIKE
> > INTERVENTION; THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN ALTERNATIVE
> > TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AT THAT TIME PERIOD, AND
> > THE SCATTERING OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND THE HUMAN
> > GENOME AROUND THE GLOBE, TO VARIOUS PLACES, TO
> > DELIBERATELY MAKE MASS CONFUSION BETWEEN ALL
> > OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET; THOUGH THAT IS ONLY
> > AN ALTERNATIVE THEORY.
> > IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE; WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT
> > OR ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR THAT TO NECCESSARILY BE
> > TRUE.
>
> Normal migrations are adequate to explain the spread of humanity.
> YES; THAT IS A SUFFICIENT EXPLANATION.
So why bring it up?
> Michlove and his crazy mythologies are one thing.
>
> I DON'T KNOW WHO MICHLOVE IS.
Ran a PBS series on alternative thinking. Some really crazy things
ranging from alternative interpretations of creation to just plain nut
cases. I think it was called "Thinking Allowed", although there was
mighty little of it on the show.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 26 15:55:29 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 15:55:33 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Left Hand of Wetness
Message-ID: <20060226225529.30238.qmail@mall-net.com>
Why is it that the molecules created by life tend to favor left
handed chirality? Maybe because water is sinister.
Recent studies at the Weizman institute suggest water, sinister
water, has imparted enough force on biology to favor the left handed
path for most amino acids.
A number of articles at:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=shinitzky+weizman+water+interaction
From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 17:50:52 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 26 17:51:01 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [MODIFIED:] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS, RELATIVE TO THE TOWER OF BABEL AND RACE.
Message-ID: <20060227005052.42515.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
MODIFIED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES THAT I
HAVE PONDERED SINCE MY ENLIGHTENMENT, ARE
THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF
BABEL STORY - BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT
THROUGHOUT THE RECORDED AND KNOWN HISTORY OF THE
HUMAN RACE - AND BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
EVERYONE OF ALL OF US COLORED PEOPLE OF THE
HUMAN RACE; [BLACKS; WHITES; REDS; ORANGES;
YELLOWS; BROWNS; PINKS; PURPLES; BLUES; GREENS;
SILVERS; PLATINUMS; GOLDS; ETC.....] AND ALL OF OUR
DIFFERING CULTURES; ALL OF OUR DIFFERING CREEDS; ALL
OF OUR DIFFERING RELIGIONS; ETC; AND ALL RELATIONS TO
BOTH THE SEXUALITY, AND TO THE SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS
OF ALL PEOPLE; WHETHER THEY BE STRAIGHT; WHETHER
THEY BE GAY; WHETHER THEY BE LESBIAN; WHETHER THEY
BE BI-SEXUAL; WHETHER THEY BE ANTI-SEXUAL; OR
WHETHER THEY BE MACHINE : A.K.A. TECHNO-SEXUAL.
A[N] ['PRIM[E['MATE'] EXAMPLE OF BIBLICAL DISCREPANCY
IS IN THE RELATIVITY BETWEEN THE SEXUAL
BEHAVIORS OF THE BLACK PEOPLE, RELATIVE TO THE
SEXUAL BEHAVIORS OF THE WHITE PEOPLE - RELATIVE
TO THE SEXUAL BEHAVIORS OF THE HISPANIC PEOPLE -
RELATIVE TO THE SEXUAL BEHAVIORS OF THE
JAPANESE PEOPLE - RELATIVE TO THE SEXUAL
BEHAVIORS OF ALL PEOPLE HERE ON PLANET EARTH;
AND IN THE ['SEEMINGLY ENDLESS'] IRONIES; AND IN THE
['SEEMINGLY ENDLESS'] CONFLICTS; AND IN THE
['SEEMINGLY ENDLESS'] CONTRADICTIONS; AND IN THE
['SEEMINGLY ENDLESS'] CONTROVERSIES; AND IN THE
['SEEMINGLY ENDLESS'] CONSPIRACIES; ETC; BETWEEN
EVERYONE OF ALL OF US IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE -
EVER SINCE AND BEFORE THE DAWNING AND SPAWNING
OF OUR RECORDED HUMAN HISTORY..!
I THINK BACK TO THAT SONG, BY SINGER: BILLY JOEL :
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE.
IT IS A TRUE SONG ABOUT HISTORY.
ANOTHER VIEW OF REALITY IS THAT WE DIDN'T START
THE WATER; WE DIDN'T START THE ICE; WE DIDN'T START
THE MAGNETISM; AND WE DIDN'T START THE ELECTRICITY;
WE DIDN'T START THE MUD AND DIRT; WE DIDN'T START
THE ROCK; WE DIDN'T START THE MOSS; WE DIDN'T
START THE SPERM; AND WE DIDN'T START THE EGG;
WE DIDN'T START THE SALT WATER; WE DIDN'T START
THE DISTILLED WATER; WE DIDN'T START THE MINERAL
WATER; WE DIDN'T START THE MICROBIAL WATER;
ETC; ETC; ETC..!
WE DIDN'T START THE ANYTHING..!
1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
2.] COULD IT BE, THAT ALL OF THE GODS OF MYTHOLOGY ARE
ENTIRELY TO BLAME FOR IT ALL..? ; ALL OF THE GODS OF
LOVE, AND ALL OF THE GODS OF WAR..?
3.] COULD IT BE, THAT EXTRATERRESTRIAL HUMANS, AND
EXTRATERRESTRIAL NON HUMANS ALIKE, ARE ENTIRELY TO
BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
4.] COULD IT BE, THAT RELIGION IS ENTIRELY TO BLAME FOR
IT ALL..?
5.] COULD IT BE, THAT LAND WARS ARE ENTIRELY TO BLAME
FOR IT ALL..?
6.] COULD IT BE, THAT ENERGY WARS ARE ENTIRELY TO BLAME
FOR IT ALL..?
7.] WHO AND WHAT EXACTLY COULD BE ENTIRELY TO BLAME
FOR IT ALL..?
8.] WE THE PEOPLE OF PLANET EARTH ARE IN TOTAL
NEED, OF ABSOLUTE CONCRETE EVIDENCE BACKED
ANSWERS TO THE ABOVE TOPICS.
9.] WE THE PEOPLE OF PLANET EARTH ARE IN TOTAL
NEED, OF ABSOLUTE CONCRETE BACKED, ORDINARY
PRACTICAL EVERYDAY STYLE ANSWERS FOR
OURSELVES, TO THE ABOVE TOPICS.
10.] WE THE PEOPLE OF PLANET EARTH ARE IN TOTAL
NEED OF ABSOLUTE CONCRETE BACKED ANSWERS
TO THE ABOVE TOPICS, FOR THE TOTAL FORTIFICATION /
FOR THE TOTAL REINFORCEMENT OF THE UNITY OF THE
ENTIRE HUMAN RACE; INSTEAD OF FOR THE OPPOSITE -
THE OPPOSITE OF WHICH HAS IN MOST HISTORICAL
CASES BEEN IN THE FURTHERING OF CONFLICTS AND
IN THE FURTHERING OF THE DIVISIONS BETWEEN EACH
AND EVERYONE OF ALL OF US..!
SINCERELY, CLYDE
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 26 19:47:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [WILL TRY TO EXPAND A LITTLE FURTHER MORE,
LATER ON:] A TRUE MAD SCIENTIST EXPERIMENT TO
SHARE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT!
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CRUDE LIFE CREATION EXPERIMENT:
1. USE OF A PETRI DISH, TO CONTAIN
THE MIXTURE OF INGREDIENTS.
2. USE OF A SMALL FRACTION OF
EARTH TOPSOIL.
3. USE OF THE SPERM SEED OF
MAN.
4. USE OF A MICRO FRACTION OF
MOSS, OR ALGAE.
5. USE OF A VERY SMALL AMOUNT
OF DISTILLED WATER.
6. USE OF A CONTROLLED
GREENHOUSE TYPE OF
ATMOSPHERE, WITH SUFFICIENT
DOSES OF CONTROLLED SOLAR
RADIATION, OR WITH SUFFICIENT
DOSES OF MANMADE LIGHT
RADIATION.
AND;
7. APPLICATION OF MICRO HIGH
VOLTAGE D.C. [DIRECT CURRENT]
ELECTRICITY, APPLIED TO THE
PETRI DISH SOLUTION USING A
SILVER NEEDLE ELECTRODE.
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From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Sun Feb 26 19:47:48 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SECOND TRANSLATION OF THE LORD'S PRAYER.
Message-ID: <20060227024744.87272.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
SECOND TRANSLATION OF THE LORD'S PRAYER:
OUR FATHER WHO EXISTS IN HEAVEN;
HALO-[ED] BE YOUR NAME.
MAY YOUR KINDOM CUM; ['COME']; AND
MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE; ['DUN'];
ON EARTH AS IT EXISTS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE TO US, BOTH DAY AND NIGHT;
AND OUR DAILY FOOD AND BREAD;
AND FORGIVE US OF OUR DEBTS AND
OF OUR TRESSPASSES AGAINST
OTHERS; AS WE BOTH FORGIVE
THOSE WHO ARE INDEBTED TO US;
AND AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO
HAVE TRESSPASSED AGAINST US.
LEAD ALL OF US OUT OF ALL
TEMPTATION;
LEAD ALL OF US AWAY FROM ALL
TEMPTATION;
REMOVE ALL OF US FROM ALL EVIL;
AND TAKE ALL OF US OUT OF ALL EVIL.
BECAUSE:
1. YOU ARE THE KINGDOM.
2. YOU ARE THE POWER.
AND:
3. YOU ARE THE GLORY.
AMEN..!
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From creolescience at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 20:40:15 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Sun Feb 26 20:40:38 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] while we are talking about social systems
Message-ID: <20060227034015.90122.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
My suggestion is to put down the Bible with it's slave morality and read some serious thought
From Wikepedia:
Nietzsche coined the terms herd instinct or slave morality, which represents the kind of morality or ideology produced by a group of people, such as a culture or a society. The herd instinct is the inevitable consequence of society, and it is considered extremely difficult for an individual to take on a value or moral system apart from the society within which one is embedded. The overman is the individual who can overcome the herd instinct, that is, who can take on values and morals that are not connected with the society within which one is. This is contrasted with an individual who wields power over others (although the overman, having overcome oneself, will consequently dominate those who have not); the overman is about being "judge and avenger and victim of one's own law.", rather than that of the others or one's society. As such, the overman creates one's own values.
Master morality and slave morality Nietzsche argued that there were two types of morality, a master morality that springs actively from the 'noble man' and a slave morality that develops reactively within the weak man. These two moralities are not simple inversions of one another, they are two different value systems; master morality fits actions into a scale of 'good' or 'bad' whereas slave morality fits actions into a scale of 'good' or 'evil'.
Nietzsche defined master morality as the morality of the strong-willed. For these men the 'good' is the noble, strong and powerful, while the 'bad' is the weak, cowardly, timid and petty. Master morality begins in the 'noble man' with a spontaneous idea of the 'good', then the idea of 'bad' develops in opposition to it. (On the Genealogy of Morals, First Essay, Section 11) He said: "The noble type of man experiences itself as determining values; it does not need approval; it judges, "what is harmful to me is harmful in itself"; it knows itself to be that which first accords honor to things; it is value-creating." (Beyond Good and Evil)
Slave morality begins in those people who are weak, uncertain of themselves, oppressed and abused. The essence of slave morality is utility: the good is what is most useful for the community as a whole. Since the powerful are few in number compared to the masses of the weak, the weak gain power vis-a-vis the strong by treating those qualities that are valued by the powerful as "evil," and those qualities that enable sufferers to endure their lot as "good." Thus patience, humility, pity, submissiveness to authority, and the like, are considered good.
Slave morality begins in a ressentiment that turns creative and gives birth to values. (Ressentiment was a term coined by Nietzsche to describe the feeling of the weak, unhealthy and ugly towards those who have fared better in life.) The slave regards the virtues of beauty, power, strength and wealth as 'evil' in an act of revenge against those who have them in abundance. (On the Genealogy of Morals, First Essay, Section 10) Slave morality is therefore a reactionary morality because 'good' does not spring creatively from the individual but develops as a negation of the values of the powerful. The noble person conceives of goodness first and later determines what is 'bad' while the slave conceives of 'evil' first and fashions his own conception of 'good' in opposition to this.
One of the main themes in Nietzsche's work is that ancient Roman society was grounded in master morality, and that this morality disappeared as the slave morality of Christianity spread through ancient Rome. Nietzsche was concerned with the state of European culture during his lifetime and therefore focused much of his analysis on the history of master and slave morality within Europe. Occasional references, however, also suggest that he meant these terms to be applied to other societies.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 26 22:12:28 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 22:12:32 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] while we are talking about social systems
In-Reply-To: <20060227034015.90122.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j
s" at Feb 26, 2006 07:40:15 PM
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Master vs slave morality...
This is interesting! Nietzsche was slightly insane, I believe; and
that gave him an interesting perspective on humanity.
The Romans believed they were the center of the universe, and right
and might were reasonable allies. This changed as they imported
immigrant workers (called slaves) and those workers slowly became
independent. (We do seem to keep repeating those mistakes.)
Slaves huddle and react, and eventually believe that we need to be
saved from ourselves by some savior. I've seen this in several support
groups I've had a passing acquaintance with. (Bailing as soon as I see
the us vs them attitude rise. Any group can become a support group, I
think we've come a bit close to that... partly my fault; but it has
build traffic and interesting discussions.)
Quite frankly, I don't buy either moralities. I don't think our
Democratic Morality is quite the same as European morality. Similar...
but not the same.
Northern European Agricultural Morality is another view.
Inheritance is important because there are limited fields, and limited
food to be generated from them. From that, much of our sense of
morality-morality and law comes. We may contrast that with sim ilar
conditions in Tibet creating a morality in which women end up with
multiple husbands, usually brothers, in effort to keep small farms from
being split till they can not sustain any family. The same goal as
Western European morality.
Similar conditions created Polynesian morality, in which children
were killed after the fact to limit population to levels which the
islands could sustain.
African, and similar American Indian morality was based on
limitless resources, limited hands. It stressed that the number of hands
determines what you can gain from community / tradition related
non-owned lands. Hence children are an asset regardless of paternity.
This is a situation where life itself limits the population. Where the
limits were more severe, (Eskimo, Indian-Indians, etc.) the wife was
often allowed to die when the husband died; she being a burden rather
than a producer to the society.
Genetics tends to favor matrilineal morality, as it is the
mitochondria, supplied by the mother, which determine a large portion of
the offspring's energy levels. Birds favor this as well, a female bird
sometimes being unfaithful to secure a more lively brood.
But, Northern European morality acts as an alternative to
matrilineal morality. Alternate points of view are quite useful as we
seldom get all of it right. It is the legal concept of argument before
the court which enables us to build our customs, to accept that action
which most aids the society in general... arguing that against that of
principles which aid society in general. Most don't see it that way...
most prefer so see it as left vs right. But Eminent Domain is more
leftist socialist and power morality than right wing morality. And let
me say, we've gone way overboard socialist on property in California!
Why? Government Revenue source! (Prop 13, later.)
Then we have communist morality of "to each as his need, from each
as his ability." Didn't work; but Marx took that from the hyper-inflation
of Germany. We had much the same here in Silicon Valley as workers
literaily bid up the prices of scarcer things, such as housing. Real
estate is sold with workers literaily bidding up the price of housing,
the owner taking the best offer, usually substantially above asking
price. Quite the contrast to what Marx claimed!
Our Democratic Morality differs, attempting to maximize the
opportunity of each individual. That saddles the individual with full
responsibility for his own life. Alas this often results in too high a
price for trying something new.
Contrast this with Germany's systems which provide clear paths for
individuals, making sure they are employed, etc. BUT also being highly
restrictive of individual entrepreneurial craziness that we find in
Silicon Valley and other parts of America.
Around Boston, there are many high tech firms. The Semiconductor
industry and computer industry actually arose there; but faltered
because the price of failure was being wiped out and never being allowed
to try again. (Old Banker morality.)
In Silicon Valley, those who failed were more often asked what they
learned from the failure, and given the chance to try again several
times if they made a good case to venture capitalists. From that
difference, Silicon Valley bloomed while Boston's circle faded.
(Prop 13, freezing the assessments of homes at time of purchase,
was used by Ronald Reagan to gain power. Prop 13, while ending the ever
rising spiral of taxes which were destroying the lives of home owners,
forcing them to abandon California on retirement, also destroyed the
funding of California's school systems. With education broken,
California went from the best to nearly the worst, just above Louisiana.
Prop 13 and all the consequences destroyed a good part of the Silicon
Valley phenomenon. Plus little things like it being a valley, the
zero-growth factions, etc. etc. etc. It's the center of the petri dish
phenomenon. the middle dies from built-up waste as the periphery grows.
Why should humanity be any different?)
My own view is closer to "life is a gift, let's see what we can do
with this gift" and the Silicon Valley "what did you learn?" ideal.
> others (although the overman, having overcome oneself, will
> consequently dominate those who have not); the overman is about being
> "judge and avenger and victim of one's own law.", rather than that of
> the others or one's society. As such, the overman creates one's own
> values.
As yea judge, so shall yea be judged. Judge competently, that yea
be judged competent. Judge compassionately that yea be judged with
compassion.
But in the end, it is results that count. So judge well that yea be
well regarded in the community of judges, and prosperous in the
community of businessmen.
Which is more or less what we have in this business oriented
country.
No doubt, there are better ways we've not really seen yet.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 26 22:32:05 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 22:32:09 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [WILL TRY TO EXPAND A LITTLE FURTHER MORE,
In-Reply-To: <20060227024714.35914.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 26, 2006 06:47:14 PM
Message-ID: <20060227053205.26829.qmail@mall-net.com>
> CRUDE LIFE CREATION EXPERIMENT:
>
> 1. USE OF A PETRI DISH, TO CONTAIN
> THE MIXTURE OF INGREDIENTS.
>
> 2. USE OF A SMALL FRACTION OF
> EARTH TOPSOIL.
>
> 3. USE OF THE SPERM SEED OF
> MAN.
Biology has well disproven this mode of life creation. Life is
already plentiful in that topsoil. What's your point?
And what of the consequences of success? What would you do with
the resulting child???
One needs to view things, I think, a little differently. The
better part of research is looking at what others have already done so
as to form hypothesis to test. Hence the name RE-search.
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Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 26 22:48:35 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 22:48:39 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [MODIFIED:] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN
In-Reply-To: <20060227005052.42515.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 26, 2006 04:50:52 PM
Message-ID: <20060227054836.37123.qmail@mall-net.com>
> ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES THAT I
> HAVE PONDERED SINCE MY ENLIGHTENMENT, ARE
> THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF
> BABEL STORY - BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
> THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT
etc.
> 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
Clyde, why blame? Are you the judge and jury? Do you seek power
as much as Hitler sought power? To be the ultimate arbiter between the
life and death of a whole race of people?
Why blame?
Why look back?
What is, is. Accept that which you can not change. How does that
prayer go...
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that which I can not change,
the courage to change what I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference
For if we look back instead of forward, all that might yet be is
lost. You are young! Look forward that you live forward.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 07:51:25 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 07:52:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [MODIFIED:] ONE MAJOR DISCREPANCY IN THE TEN
In-Reply-To: <20060227054836.37123.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060227145125.40112.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES THAT I
> HAVE PONDERED SINCE MY ENLIGHTENMENT, ARE
> THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF
> BABEL STORY - BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
> THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT
etc.
> 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
Clyde, why blame?
BLAME IS BETTER TO GIVE, THAN TO RECEIVE.
Are you the judge and jury?
NO.
Do you seek power as much as Hitler sought power?
I SEEK POWER - THOUGH THE WISDOM IS THAT TOO
MUCH POWER UNRESTRAINED ='S DICTATORSHIP;
AND SO; I HUMBLY ADMIT MY HUMANITY; AND THAT
I AM ONLY ONE PERSON; AND THAT I CAN CHANGE
A LOT OF THINGS TO THE POINT OF EITHER
DESTRUCTION, OR CHANGE THINGS TO THE POINT
OF BENEFIT TO OTHERS; AND SO; I CHOOSE THE
SIDE OF BEING OF BENEFIT, MORE THAN I CHOOSE
THE DESTRUCTIVE SIDE OF THINGS...... THOUGH I
DO WISH THAT I COULD TOTALLY ELIMINATE THE
SHADOW DESTRUCTIVE NATURE SIDE OF MYSELF
ENTIRELY, SO THAT I COULD HAVE ONLY A GOOD
AND PERFECT AND INNOCENT NATURE SIDE TO
MYSELF ONLY; BARRING EVERY OTHER ASPECT
ABOUT MY CURSED SELF!
To be the ultimate arbiter between the life and death of a whole
race of people?
NO..!
THOUGH I HAVE ABSOLUTE HATRED FOR DEATH; AND
I HATE WHAT MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER TO BE LIFE
AS NEARLY AS MUCH AS WHAT WE ALL KNOW AS
DEATH, FOR THE REASONS OF DISEASE, AND PAIN,
AND MISERY, AND SUFFERING, AND DISEASE, AND
IGNORANCE, AND STUPIDITY, ETC..!
I WANT TO BRING DEATH BACK TO LIFE..!
Why blame?
BLAME IS BETTER TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE!
Why look back?
WELL, IN SCHOOL, HISTORY IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAUGHT,
JUST AS THE SCIENCES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TAUGHT,
WITH EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE..!
THE PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN LARGE
SCALE FAILURES FOR SO MANY PEOPLE: YOUNG AND OLD..!
What is, is. Accept that which you can not change. How does that
prayer go...
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that which I can not change,
the courage to change what I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference
YES: SERENITY.
THAT IS ONLY ONE ASPECT.
I NEED PEACE AND QUIET.
I NEED SERENITY; SOCIAL, POLITICAL, NEURAL, ETC.
I NEED HARMONY: HARMONY WITH NATURE AND
TECHNOLOGY.
For if we look back instead of forward, all that might yet be is
lost. You are young! Look forward that you live forward.
I'VE GOTTA ABSOLUTELY BEGIN FOCUSING ON MY HEALTH.
I'VE BECOME TOO THIN AND SKINNY : NEARLY SKIN AND
BONES BECAUSE ALL OF THE OVERWHELMING STRESS IN
MY LIFE, AND DUE TO THE CEASELESS SENSELESS INSANE
POLITICS OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND IN THE SOCIAL AND
POLITICAL DIVISION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
BY THE NAZI BUSHES AND BY THE COMMIE CLINTONS.
CAN'T WE ALL MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR US ALL?
CAN'T WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE FUTURE
OF OUR LIVES AND THIS COUNTRY INFINITELY BETTER
FOR US ALL, WITH TOTAL EQUALITY LIKE THE FOUNDING
FATHERS INTENDED AMERICA TO BE..?
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 08:32:11 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 08:32:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060227054836.37123.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060227153211.13407.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
> ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES THAT I
> HAVE PONDERED SINCE MY ENLIGHTENMENT, ARE
> THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF
> BABEL STORY - BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
> THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT
etc.
> 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
Clyde, why blame? Are you the judge and jury? Do you seek power
as much as Hitler sought power? To be the ultimate arbiter between
the life and death of a whole race of people?
ABSOLUTELY NOT..!
THOUGH AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE IN
ABSOLUTE DESPERATE NEED OF HIGHER EUGENICS
STANDARDS AND HIGHER EUTHENICS STANDARDS, WITH
THE 'ABSOLUTE' WISDOM AND THE 'ABSOLUTE' MERCY OF
BOTH JESUS CHRIST AND THE 'ABSOLUTE' WISDOM AND
THE 'ABSOLUTE' MERCY OF GAUTAMA BUDDHA; EQUAL
FOR EVERYONE ON PLANET EARTH, WITH ZERO EXCEPTION..!
THOUGH; I COULD BE ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY WRONG; IN MY
HUMBLE OPINION.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 27 10:19:47 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 10:19:51 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060227153211.13407.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 27, 2006 07:32:11 AM
Message-ID: <20060227171947.56938.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > ONE OF THE MAJOR BIBLICAL DISCREPANCIES THAT I
> > HAVE PONDERED SINCE MY ENLIGHTENMENT, ARE
> > THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN THE GENESIS TOWER OF
> > BABEL STORY - BETWEEN THE RELATIVITIES BETWEEN
> > THE NEARLY LIMITLESS WARS THAT MANKIND HAS FOUGHT
> etc.
>
> > 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> > BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
>
> Clyde, why blame? Are you the judge and jury? Do you seek power
> as much as Hitler sought power? To be the ultimate arbiter between
> the life and death of a whole race of people?
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOT..!
> THOUGH AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE IN
> ABSOLUTE DESPERATE NEED OF HIGHER EUGENICS
Well, that would involve judging and killing people. Or at least
sterilizing them.
I remember the Loma Prieta earthquake. We had a double decker
highway segment called The Cypress Structure. One level of highway
collapsed upon another, trapping a lot of very well to do commuters
in their BMW's and other cars.
This highway section ran through the poorest neighborhood in the
entire San Francisco Bay area, a pure Black neighborhood.
The Blacks came out of their apartment hovels, and at great risk to
their own lives, climbed into the still trembling wreckage and started
trying to free anyone and everyone they could.
Why, Clyde? Can you imagine why they did that, Clyde? Can you
reach inside and answer that question for me? And what that really
means?
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Feb 27 11:08:46 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Mon Feb 27 11:08:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Arcs and sparks
Message-ID: <006301c63bc8$dae53430$6401a8c0@mikey>
http://teslamania.delete.org/frames/longarc.htm
From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Feb 27 12:21:48 2006
From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 12:22:06 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] .Clyde----STOP
Message-ID: <280.64e0f94.3134ab4c@aol.com>
CLYDE, PLEASE HAVE MERCRY ON US.
I have not read my mail in a couple days and find around 14--15 or so
e-mails from you
I would not mind usually, I can just delete them as I do most of the time.
However today you have got my dander up, I accidentally deleted mail from
creolescience. I all ways read these
e-mails as they are about science, the reason I joined the board.
John is a well spring of information also, but, I cant spend the time
shifting through the mail to find out if he is talking science or sending the same
advice to you, over and over again as he has for the last 18 months-2 years.
Get his loud and clear Clyde, I myself don't give a rats ass about the
lyrics to music, that is not science unless you are doing a scientific paper on
social changes.
If you feel you are being spied on as a person of (interest ) to the city
police, Federal government, neighbors and or family, You are the last person I
want to associate with even over the Internet.
There are woman on this board, I am sure they object to your constant use of
the f-word. I myself object to the 3 or 4 e-mails when you referred to your
own mother as a female dog.
You are running people off the board, this should be a place for serious
exchange of scientific ideas, a place to alert each other to new discovery's.
Each of us don't have the time or energy to read all the papers or science
magazines on the market. We miss a lot, having a member pick up on something we
have missed is why we are here.
If this is just my feelings and others on the board don"t mind being
bombarded with your "OFF SUBJECT" posts, I will go else where to find people who
love all kinds of science and don"t fill up my mail box with rants and raves
about stuff they know nothing about.
God helps them who help
themselves-----Vesta
The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word.
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 27 13:10:53 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 13:11:03 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] .Clyde----STOP
In-Reply-To: <280.64e0f94.3134ab4c@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 27,
2006 02:21:48 PM
Message-ID: <20060227201053.57889.qmail@mall-net.com>
> CLYDE, PLEASE HAVE MERCRY ON US.
And Vesta isn't the only one, Clyde. I too, would rather you
didn't clutter this board up with repetitive messages.
If you want to e-mail myself and Mike Best off list, we'll answer
you. You know that. Clearly, you are not finding much affirmation on
this list, are you?
> John is a well spring of information also, but, I cant spend the time
I try. I too, would like to discuss science more than giving moral
support. But when someone else is in pain, physical or psychological, I
can't help but try to comfort.
> shifting through the mail to find out if he is talking science or sending the same
> advice to you, over and over again as he has for the last 18 months-2 years.
Pretty much...
> Get his loud and clear Clyde, I myself don't give a rats ass about the
> lyrics to music, that is not science unless you are doing a scientific paper on
> social changes.
I agree wholeheartedly! If you want a "may none of them be missed"
list, rappers and rock egomaniacs are at the top of my list!
> If you feel you are being spied on as a person of (interest ) to the city
> police, Federal government, neighbors and or family, You are the last person I
> want to associate with even over the Internet.
But you know, when someone of our flock starts straying, we need to
help him before he comes running back to us with a pack of hungry wolves
chasing him. How much easier it is, to bring him back before the wolves
find him! And US!!!
> There are woman on this board, I am sure they object to your constant use of
> the f-word. I myself object to the 3 or 4 e-mails when you referred to your
> own mother as a female dog.
The whole issue of language suggests a clipping of the signal
magnitude, an amplifier set way too high so one does not get the gentle
sinusoidal signals of a finely tuned instrument. Emotions run the
limit, rather than the fine enjoyment of expression the way William F.
Buckly does when he verbally skewers someone With Finesse! Now there, is
The Art of Language!
Instead, we get the shrill rede of Clyde's reed.
But... let's help him before the wolves find us, huh?
Post more of these off-list, Clyde, ok?
javilk@mall-net.com
mbest@triad.rr.com
(Sorry, Mike. You singed up for this one, remember?)
> You are running people off the board, this should be a place for serious
> exchange of scientific ideas, a place to alert each other to new discovery's.
> Each of us don't have the time or energy to read all the papers or science
> magazines on the market. We miss a lot, having a member pick up on something we
> have missed is why we are here.
Right!
> If this is just my feelings and others on the board don"t mind being
> bombarded with your "OFF SUBJECT" posts, I will go else where to find people who
Oh, I mind! I mind! But sometimes, we got to do what we got to do
to save one of us.
So Clyde, consider this echoing Vesta's sentiments from your
friend. e-mail mike and myself on a lot of these, ok?
> love all kinds of science and don"t fill up my mail box with rants and raves
> about stuff they know nothing about.
Let's keep this community going. More science, less Clyde. I'll
try to take care of Clyde off-list, if Clyde is willing.
if not, I suppose there's Igor... He can always make the necessary
adjustments to insure this happens.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 13:37:27 2006
From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano)
Date: Mon Feb 27 13:37:36 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] .Clyde----STOP
In-Reply-To: <280.64e0f94.3134ab4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060227203727.54328.qmail@web51013.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesran
thank you for stating directly what I've been trying
to say.
Bob
--- Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
> CLYDE, PLEASE HAVE MERCRY ON US.
>
> I have not read my mail in a couple days and find
> around 14--15 or so
> e-mails from you
>
> I would not mind usually, I can just delete them as
> I do most of the time.
> However today you have got my dander up, I
> accidentally deleted mail from
> creolescience. I all ways read these
> e-mails as they are about science, the reason I
> joined the board.
>
> John is a well spring of information also, but, I
> cant spend the time
> shifting through the mail to find out if he is
> talking science or sending the same
> advice to you, over and over again as he has for the
> last 18 months-2 years.
>
> Get his loud and clear Clyde, I myself don't give a
> rats ass about the
> lyrics to music, that is not science unless you are
> doing a scientific paper on
> social changes.
>
> If you feel you are being spied on as a person of
> (interest ) to the city
> police, Federal government, neighbors and or family,
> You are the last person I
> want to associate with even over the Internet.
>
> There are woman on this board, I am sure they object
> to your constant use of
> the f-word. I myself object to the 3 or 4 e-mails
> when you referred to your
> own mother as a female dog.
>
> You are running people off the board, this should
> be a place for serious
> exchange of scientific ideas, a place to alert each
> other to new discovery's.
> Each of us don't have the time or energy to read
> all the papers or science
> magazines on the market. We miss a lot, having a
> member pick up on something we
> have missed is why we are here.
>
> If this is just my feelings and others on the board
> don"t mind being
> bombarded with your "OFF SUBJECT" posts, I will go
> else where to find people who
> love all kinds of science and don"t fill up my mail
> box with rants and raves
> about stuff they know nothing about.
> God helps
> them who help
> themselves-----Vesta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 15:44:11 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 15:44:21 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060227171947.56938.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060227224411.86268.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
> > 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> > BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
>
> Clyde, why blame? Are you the judge and jury? Do you seek power
> as much as Hitler sought power? To be the ultimate arbiter between
> the life and death of a whole race of people?
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOT..!
> THOUGH AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE IN
> ABSOLUTE DESPERATE NEED OF HIGHER EUGENICS
Well, that would involve judging and killing people.
NO IT WOULDN'T..!
Or at least sterilizing them.
YES, AND;
YOU INTERRUPTED THE FULL SENTENCE THAT I TYPED;
AND STERILIZATION IS INSUFFICIENT..!
I remember the Loma Prieta earthquake. We had a double decker
highway segment called The Cypress Structure. One level of highway
collapsed upon another, trapping a lot of very well to do commuters
in their BMW's and other cars.
This highway section ran through the poorest neighborhood in the
entire San Francisco Bay area, a pure Black neighborhood.
The Blacks came out of their apartment hovels, and at great risk to
their own lives, climbed into the still trembling wreckage and started
trying to free anyone and everyone they could.
YES; I REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING THIS STORY.
Why, Clyde? Can you imagine why they did that, Clyde? Can you
reach inside and answer that question for me? And what that really
means?
UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
LOVE FROM THEIR HEARTS..!
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 17:00:13 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 17:00:19 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060227171947.56938.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060228000013.32277.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
> > 1.] COULD IT BE, THAT WE OURSELVES ARE ENTIRELY TO
> > BLAME FOR IT ALL..?
>
> Clyde, why blame? Are you the judge and jury? Do you seek power
> as much as Hitler sought power? To be the ultimate arbiter between
> the life and death of a whole race of people?
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOT..!
> THOUGH AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE IN
> ABSOLUTE DESPERATE NEED OF HIGHER EUGENICS
Well, that would involve judging and killing people.
NO IT WOULDN'T..!
Or at least sterilizing them.
YES, AND;
YOU INTERRUPTED THE FULL SENTENCE THAT I TYPED;
STERILIZATION BY ITSELF, IS INSUFFICIENT..!
EUTHENICS IN A PERFECT COMBINATION WITH EUGENICS
IS NECESSARY FOR A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR ALL OF
US, EQUALLY.
YOU OMITTED THE WORD AND TOPIC OF EUTHENICS.
IF THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT CANNOT SEE EACH OTHER
WITHOUT BLACK EYE TO BLACK EYE; AND MISSING
TEETH TO MISSING TEETH; THEN I AM READY TO LEAVE
THIS SCREWED UP COUNTRY OF MODERN AMERICA;
OR AT LEAST THIS INSANE ASYLUM TOEN OF TULSA
TIME OKLAHOMA, ITS INSANELY OVER ORDINANCED AND
OVER RATED MUNICAPALITY; AND SURROUNDING DISTRICTS
AS WELL.
GONE TOTALLY CRAZY, OUT OF MY MIND,
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 17:07:52 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 17:07:55 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] .Clyde----STOP
In-Reply-To: <280.64e0f94.3134ab4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060228000752.35311.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
CLYDE, PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON US.
MERCY FOR ALL OF US TOO, NOT JUST FOR ONE PERSON
ALONE..!
NO ONE HAS SOLUTIONS; AND
I'VE TRIED TO DO WHAT PART THAT I CAN DO,
TO HELP THINGS; THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO DESTROY
EVERYTHING, AS PEOPLE SEEM TO WANT TO MAKE ME DO.
I have not read my mail in a couple days and find around 14--15 or so e-mails from you
OK.
I would not mind usually, I can just delete them as I do most of the time. However today you have got my dander up, I accidentally deleted mail from creolescience. I all ways read these.
I APOLOGIZE.
I AM CONTINUING THE RESEARCH INTO THE HISTORY TOPIC.
TIME AND OTHER RESOURCES THOUGH ARE PREVENTING ITS
COMPLETION.......
e-mails as they are about science, the reason I joined the board.
YES.
John is a well spring of information also, but, I can't spend the time shifting through the mail to find out if he is talking science or sending the same advice to you, over and over again as he has for the last 18 months-2 years.
OK.
Get his loud and clear Clyde, I myself don't give a rats ass about the lyrics to music,
YES, I KNOW.
that is not science unless you are doing a scientific paper on social changes.
YES, SCIENCE IS RELATIVE SUBJECT MATTER TO THE SONG LYRICS
THAT I HAVE POSTED.
If you feel you are being spied on as a person of (interest ) to the city police, Federal government, neighbors and or family, You are the last person I want to associate with even over the Internet.
OK; IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
There are woman on this board, I am sure they object to your constant use of the f-word. I myself object to the 3 or 4 e-mails when you referred to your own mother as a female dog.
I APOLOGIZE; TULSA; NO MORE......
You are running people off the board, this should be a place for serious exchange of scientific ideas, a place to alert each other to new discovery's. Each of us don't have the time or energy to read all the papers or science magazines on the market. We miss a lot, having a member pick up on something we have missed is why we are here.
YES; I CANNOT READ ALL OF THE SCIENCE PAPERS; ALL OF THE
SCIENCE MAGAZINES; WATCH ALL OF THE SCIENCE VIDEO
PRODUCTIONS; CARRY OUT ALL SCIENCE EXPERIMENT PROJECTS;
JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO DO; TULSA = OVER ORDINANCED ETC....
If this is just my feelings and others on the board don"t mind being bombarded with your "OFF SUBJECT" posts, I will go else where to find people who love all kinds of science and don"t fill up my mail box with rants and raves about stuff they know nothing about.
OK.
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 19:42:16 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Mon Feb 27 19:42:20 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Clyde----STOP.
In-Reply-To: <20060228000752.35311.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060228024216.98290.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com>
Vesta111@aol.com wrote:
I will go else where to find people who love all kinds of science and don"t
fill up my mail box with rants and raves about stuff they know nothing about.
CARRY ON, ON THE MAD SCIENTISTS WEBSITE.
I WILL SIT ON THE SIDELINES AT LEAST UNTIL I
FINISH THE HISTORICAL RESEARCH THAT I AM
ATTEMPTING TO DO, AND TO FINISH.
CLYDE
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From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 27 19:52:25 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 19:52:28 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060228000013.32277.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 27, 2006 04:00:13 PM
Message-ID: <20060228025225.69177.qmail@mall-net.com>
> > ABSOLUTELY NOT..!
> > THOUGH AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE IN
> > ABSOLUTE DESPERATE NEED OF HIGHER EUGENICS
>
> Well, that would involve judging and killing people.
>
> NO IT WOULDN'T..!
>
> Or at least sterilizing them.
>
> YES, AND;
> YOU INTERRUPTED THE FULL SENTENCE THAT I TYPED;
>
> STERILIZATION BY ITSELF, IS INSUFFICIENT..!
>
> EUTHENICS IN A PERFECT COMBINATION WITH EUGENICS
> IS NECESSARY FOR A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR ALL OF
> US, EQUALLY.
Clyde, in the post before this, I asked you an important question.
I'd like you to answer it for me before we go on. Go back and read the
previous post about people did during the earthquake. Answer my
question. then I'll know how to answer your questions.
--javilk@mall-net.com----------------------------------
Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there.
Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live.
-------------------------------------------------------
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prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states.
-------------------------------------------------------
Another Javilk (tm) brand post.
Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com
Copyright retained. All rights reserved.
From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 27 21:19:36 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 21:19:41 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060227224411.86268.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 27, 2006 02:44:11 PM
Message-ID: <20060228041936.18176.qmail@mall-net.com>
I'm sorry, you did answer.
This is psychological pscience. Or something approximating it.
> I remember the Loma Prieta earthquake. We had a double decker
> highway segment called The Cypress Structure. One level of highway
> collapsed upon another, trapping a lot of very well to do commuters
> in their BMW's and other cars.
>
> This highway section ran through the poorest neighborhood in the
> entire San Francisco Bay area, a pure Black neighborhood.
>
> The Blacks came out of their apartment hovels, and at great risk to
> their own lives, climbed into the still trembling wreckage and started
> trying to free anyone and everyone they could.
>
> YES; I REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING THIS STORY.
>
> Why, Clyde? Can you imagine why they did that, Clyde? Can you
> reach inside and answer that question for me? And what that really
> means?
>
> UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
> LOVE FROM THEIR HEARTS..!
Not at all! Some of them were gang members, some were just not nice
people, the kind who just might do something nasty if whitey wandered
through their neighborhood. Yet they all pitched in. Why?
It certainly wasn't love. It's something deeper than love. It's
"we're all in this together." Sure, a chance to do some good, to make a
difference; but more, the sense that someone else is in pain and needs
help. It's someone like ME!!! Ghandi put it "be an example of the
society you wan to be a part of."
Hitler had an eugenics program. It wasn't so... novel then. A ot
of Germany was farm communities, and they knew what good and bad
breeding of cattle and crops did. Why not people? Much as we hate to
admit it, Hitler was more a product of his time than some mutant
monster. The mood in Germany at the time supported his general lotions.
General notions. But when it came to eliminating real people, innocent
civilians, most of the soldiers detailed to shoot real people suffered
nervous breakdowns after a while. Why? "It's someone like ME!" What's
to keep ME from being next???
The Skinheads still think eugenics is the way to go. Ethnic
cleansing. Whatever you want to call it. Problem is, these skinheads
are so stupid in general, that they can only think they function when
they see a them to fight. It's their gospel of hate that makes them
stupid, because the sense of empathy is what helps us learn from others.
Without empathy, they can't learn. Hatred destroys that empathy till...
till they really hate themselves without knowing it. Till they shut out
the best parts of life!
What about eugenics on the Blacks? Funny thing is, if the sun
heats up much more, a lot of the Black traits, the black sun resistant
skin, ability to withstand hotter temperatures, etc. will be favorable
traits! (Not to mention they are really people too. Some of my friends
and co-workers were black. Like white guys, some are good, some are
bad. The smartest engineer, head and shoulders above his co-workers in
one place I worked in was black. I came to really like that guy!
Sometimes we'd get together after work and work on some calculations
together. We had really interesting discussions.
Another friend was what you'd call a dumb ass redneck. He was into
the history of weapons. Interesting conversations with him too!
Mostly facts... as he didn't have the brains to put two and two
together, which I kept doing from what he was telling me and asking it
as questions, so we had things to talk about. He'd memorized, more
likely absorbed a lot of intersting information. He was interested in
computers; but didn't have the mind to really grasp them. We had some
good times talking about weapons and computers. If civilization ever
fell, that's the guy I'd want on my team!
When we enter the next ice age, Eskimo traits will be favored.
How do we know which traits are advantageous as we swing back and
forth between global warming and ice ages? Nevermind global warming,
what about solar warming!? We know our sun is somewhat variable. We
just don't know how variable!
Sure, Intelligence is a good trait. Ok... but much of what is
called intelligence is just a small number of habits of the mind. Little
things, like reflecting upon how something new is similar to and
different from other things you know, some philosophical tools like
reductio ad absurdum, and a facility with short term memory which, in
many ways, is similar to muscle building by doing harder things. So...
how do you tell whether someone has a genetic higher intelligence, or
whether it is due to what he did as a kid?
Or diabetes. Bad trait, no? Well, the Pima Indians have a lot of
it. Why? because their people had very little food. For them and many
other low-food people, diabetes was an advantage. Same for my family
problem, low body temperature. Again, when we have the next ice age
and food is short, those might not be such bad traits, even if they do
tend to kill you by age 50.
The point is, we Don't Know which traits will be vital, and which
will be fatal.
Thank's to Hitler, the world has seen where eugenics leads. If you
really want to be burned at the stake, keep talking about eugenics.
Oh, sure, someone will end up selling genetic mods in the future.
Little boost here, little boost there... we can fix that gene for
blackness, or the gene for green eyes... But not now. Not yet.
(Me, I'd like crocodile blood, which can store substantially more
oxygen than our blood. And the ability to generate some obscure enzyme
on the path from sugar to vitamin C that we and most primates seem to
have lost. Then there's the question of why some whales can live 280
years... So yes, things are going to get interesting! Gene modding
will be an interesting little industry! But not today. We're not smart
enough. I'm against genetically engineered crops for now.)
No one knows what the ideal human is like; because there is no
ideal human for all circumstances! You take a black guy and put him in
with the Eskimos in Alaska or the Lapplanders in Scandinavia... and he
isn't going to measure up! Then you take an Eskimo and put him in an
African tribe, and he's going to be in hot water big time as he starts
sweating to death!
Of course, those are extremes. You take a certified genius and put
him in a store clerk's job, and he'll screw up. I did! Gads I hated
that work! Clerking, production line work, etc. I did very badly at them
despite wanting to do well. I just could not handle the boredom!
Same if you put a store clerk in the genius' job. Frustration and
confusion!
It takes all kinds of people to run a world. Diversity is a good
thing.
We did the eugenics thing with our dogs, breeding them for this or
that trait. Now the recessive genes are coming to the fore. Hip
displacia is rampant in German Shepherds and some other lines; other
genetic disorders because the blood (gene) lines are too pure.
If Hitler had won, his pure "Aryan" hogwash would not have lasted
more than so long because their blood lines would soon develop the same
kinds of problems we see in some dogs in about ten or twenty
generations. His thousand year Reich would have collapsed in genetic
disaster before the thousand years were up. (Assuming nothing else killed
it.)
So drop the eugenics bit, Clyde. It isn't valid science; it's
hitlerian nonsense. And believe me, Hitler was skilled at spinning
nonsense when he wanted to! He was a really good orator that somehow
got twisted and seemed to sell his soul to evil, piece by piece till it
was too late to turn back. He killed a huge number of a lot of people,
and put Europe through hell!
For homework, I think you need to look at people and ask how they
are like you. Look for the good in people. Look for the beauty in
people. And in nature. Get out and LOOK for beauty so that you get your
mind off the hate.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 04:26:20 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 28 04:26:25 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060228041936.18176.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060228112620.77327.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
I'm sorry, you did answer.
This is psychological science. Or something approximating it.
YES.
Hitler had a eugenics program. It wasn't so novel then.
So drop the eugenics bit, Clyde. It isn't valid science; it's
Hitlerian nonsense. And believe me, Hitler was skilled at spinning
nonsense when he wanted to! He was a really good orator that somehow
got twisted and seemed to sell his soul to evil, piece by piece till it
was too late to turn back. He killed a huge number of a lot of people,
and put Europe through hell!
HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ABSOLUTELY INCREASE
OUR HEALTH STANDARD, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, ABSOLUTELY
PREVENT THAT HEALTH STANDARD FROM BECOMING AN EVIL
NAZI DOCTOR FASCIST DICTATORSHIP..?
I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT THAT WAY, BOTH LAST NIGHT, AND
THAT WAY IN THE PAST AS WELL.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WORDING IT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
CLYDE
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From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 06:50:29 2006
From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton)
Date: Tue Feb 28 06:50:46 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060228041936.18176.qmail@mall-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060228135029.37318.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
javilk@mall-net.com wrote:
Yes, things are going to get interesting! Gene modding
will be an interesting little industry! But not today.
We're not smart enough.
I BEG TO DIFFER IN THAT MINDSET OF THINKING.
BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DO NOT THINK VERY
FAR AHEAD INTO THE FUTURE; THAT OF WHICH
IS THE #1 REASON FOR A LACKING OF PROGRESS
TOWARD THE FUTURE, APART FROM THE SUBJECTS
OF CENSORSHIP AND SUPPRESSION!
I'm against genetically engineered crops for now.)
HERE IS AN EXCELLENT WEBLINK PERTAINING TO WHAT
YOU SAY ABOVE, THAT I FOUND THIS MORNING, AFTER
VESTA INFORMED ME OF HIS ACCIDENTAL ERASING OF
THE CREOLE SCIENCE E-MAIL THAT HE RECEIVED;
WHICH I WENT ON A WEBSEARCH REGARDING CREOLE
SCIENCE, AND FOUND:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200602/s1579998.htm
AND ANOTHER AFFILIATED WEBSITE THAT YOU MAY
ALREADY BE AWARE OF:
http://cgi.worldscientist.com
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From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Feb 28 11:14:04 2006
From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com)
Date: Tue Feb 28 11:14:14 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ALTERNATIVE REPLY.
In-Reply-To: <20060228112620.77327.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde
lofton" at Feb 28, 2006 03:26:20 AM
Message-ID: <20060228181404.20001.qmail@mall-net.com>
> Hitler had a eugenics program. It wasn't so novel then.
> So drop the eugenics bit, Clyde. It isn't valid science; it's
> Hitlerian nonsense. And believe me, Hitler was skilled at spinning
> HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ABSOLUTELY INCREASE
> OUR HEALTH STANDARD, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, ABSOLUTELY
> PREVENT THAT HEALTH STANDARD FROM BECOMING AN EVIL
> NAZI DOCTOR FASCIST DICTATORSHIP..?
The real problem is that we no longer have dinner table
conversations. We turn to the News instead. And entertainment
afterward We are not paying attention to the flavors of our food. We
don't eat enough greens, eat way, way too much processed food that is
loaded with fake flavors, screwing up our sense of taste. We favor
convenience instead of thought.
With that, we are not a reflective society. We have too much
entertainment, and that becomes what we think of; not life itself.
We don't take time out to think, to let our minds dream. Sadly,
those who do, don't often have the technical background to do things;
because our schools emphasize rote memorization instead of learning to
THINK! The most important part of a project isn't the research; though
that IS important! It's what most people dismiss as daydreaming -- the
what-if and how-if games of the mind.
Without that, too many things are done for the convenience of the
doer without regard for the person whom it is done for. Too few people
see the joy of excelling; for we confuse pride with the joy of a job
well done and the sparkle of seeing someone just a little amazed at the
work they have been handed.
For me, seeing the client's incredulity at the quality of what I've
done is the biggest kick!
But it's always the trick not to give these people swollen heads!
It's the pride in self which often leads to disregard for the recipient
of the work.
> I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT THAT WAY, BOTH LAST NIGHT, AND
> THAT WAY IN THE PAST AS WELL.
Ok.
-J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com)
CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice.
My opinions are subject to the availability of information.
I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions.
For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices
orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine.
Today's Art Photo
Chem / Fungus allergies
Dr. Cathcart / Vit C.
Arthritis
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From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Feb 28 15:27:54 2006
From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best)
Date: Tue Feb 28 15:28:08 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Novel product tracking technology
Message-ID: <001301c63cb6$39cae330$6401a8c0@mikey>
Demodulation?s ?-Fiber Microwire?
Offers Tracking Possibilities
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Demodulation Inc., Alfred, N.Y., has unveiled its patented Microfiber Sensor
Tracking system that reads digital signal information from its ?-Fiber
(Mu-Fiber) Microwire?, consisting of a chipless, glass-coated microfiber
with an amorphous alloy core. The system is able to read multibit
information from a 1-inch-long microfiber segment less than 40 microns in
diameter from a distance of 25 meters away, opening up the possibility for
long-range, multiple item tracking use.
http://www.textileworld.com/News.htm?CD=5&ID=10652
From creolescience at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 16:30:48 2006
From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Tue Feb 28 16:30:54 2006
Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Yonaguni the sunken Japanese city
Message-ID: <20060228233048.9028.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I watched a show on the Science Channel about Yonaguni, which is what appears to be a sunken city in southern Japan. There are structures that appear to be manmade but the interesting thing is that for them to have been made the
sea level would have only been low enough at the last ICE AGE!
What is really signifigant is how the structures look almost identical to carved megaliths currently found above sea level in Japan and used for Shinto ceremonies. If this is all true then the Japanese and Shinto culture reaches back beyond recorded history! Shinto may be the world's oldest religion and the Japanese the longest existing culture.
If one sees the prehistoric Jomon people's ornate potter it's obvious they were no cave men or primitive by any stretch of the imagination. Another interesting thing is there was a certain Stonehenge feel to one part - two upright parallel stone columns at the end of a tunnel.
BTW Stonehenge had been dated to 4,500 years old based on the carbon dating of remains of people found buried under some of the rocks. Not bad for some stone agers
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