From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 15:28:45 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 1 15:28:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT.... Message-ID: <20060101222845.79656.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> MY YAHOO E-MAIL ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED INTO BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA; BUT I DON'T CARE. EVEN THOUGH SOME OF MY INFORMATION IS OF A PERSONAL NATURE; I JUST DON'T CARE ANYMORE..! LET IT BE..! LATER; CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060101/fac583fe/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Jan 2 01:00:39 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Jan 2 01:00:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Playing God? Message-ID: <001501c60f72$a0480280$6401a8c0@mikey> GM crops created superweed, say scientists Modified rape crosses with wild plant to create tough pesticide-resistant strain Paul Brown, environment correspondent Monday July 25, 2005 The Guardian Modified genes from crops in a GM crop trial have transferred into local wild plants, creating a form of herbicide-resistant "superweed", the Guardian can reveal. The cross-fertilisation between GM oilseed rape, a brassica, and a distantly related plant, charlock, had been discounted as virtually impossible by scientists with the environment department. It was found during a follow up to the government's three-year trials of GM crops which ended two years ago. http://www.guardian.co.uk/gmdebate/Story/0,,1535428,00.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 2 17:43:36 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 2 17:43:43 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RADIOACTIVITY. Message-ID: <20060103004336.90078.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> (THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE I GUESS; WITH MILLIONS OF D.J.S WORLDWIDE PERFORMING THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF IT..!) CLYDE Song: Radioactivity; (Cover version) Original song, by: Ralf Huetter, and Florian Schneider; (Kraftwerk). Lyrical cover, by: Clyde Lofton. RADIOACTIVITY: (Spoken / with Morse Code:) Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... It's about Alpha radioactivity vs. Omega radioactivity. Stop nuclear radioactivity. Harmful high frequency negative energy. Detrimental to humanity. Destructor of unity. Anti nuclear radioactivity. Is in the air for you and me. Population unification, rejuvenation, and regeneration. But stop nuclear radioactivity. Harmful high frequency negative energy. Detrimental to biology. Destructor of unity. Not all radioactivity is in the air for you and me. Stop nuclear radioactivity. Nuclear ionization, and mutation. Mass degenerated population. Stop nuclear radioactivity. It isn't in the air for you and me. Nuclear radioactivity. Nuclear radio-ation. Mass divided population. Destructor of unity. Destructor of unity. Destructor of unity. Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... (Etc....) (Repeat S.O.S. Morse Code, into song fade out.) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060102/6ff61bdb/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 2 18:08:48 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 2 18:09:02 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM. Message-ID: <20060103010848.94013.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM: ANTI-nuclear energy, ='s mass, times dimension; X'ed; Squared (Hexed); Cubed; Circled; Sphered; Triangled; Tetraheed; Etc. The esoteric science behind it is what Mr. Edward Leedskalnin knew about when he built the Coral Castle, in Homestead Florida. That esoteric science goes by two 'main' names: 1. Magnetricity. And; 2. Gridpoints. And with the advent of the mass production of the insulated copper conductor, called the wire; It has made it possible to 'strukt gridpoints, and scale them to any imaginable size; Using the science of topology, combined with native culture artwork known as sacred geometry. The metaphysical imagination is the only limitation as to how one builds gridpoints..! Gridpoints can be powered or unpowered; Can be given electric voltage and current, or no voltage and current; Can be powered by A.C. energy and / or powered by D.C. energy; Can be left modulated by A.C. energy, or left unmodulated by A.C. energy; Can have A.C. energy modulate D.C. energy simultaneously; Etc. The two most basic / elementary gridpoints, using metal conductors, are the inductive reactant gridpoint, and the capacitive reactant gridpoint. Public domain knowledge..! Clyde Lofton --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060102/cbd2ba6b/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 2 18:17:53 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 2 18:17:58 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM. Message-ID: <20060103011753.88771.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM: ANTI-nuclear energy, ='s mass, times dimension; X'ed; Squared (Hexed); Cubed; Circled; Sphered; Triangled; Tetraheed; Etc. The esoteric science behind it is what Mr. Edward Leedskalnin knew about when he built the Coral Castle, in Homestead Florida. That esoteric science goes by two 'main' names: 1. Magnetricity. And; 2. Gridpoints. And with the advent of the mass production of the insulated copper conductor, called the wire; It has made it possible to 'strukt gridpoints, and scale them to any imaginable size; Using the science of topology, combined with native culture artwork known as sacred geometry. The metaphysical imagination is the only limitation as to how one builds gridpoints..! Gridpoints can be powered or unpowered; Can be given electric voltage and current, or no voltage and current; Can be powered by A.C. energy and / or powered by D.C. energy; Can be left modulated by A.C. energy, or left unmodulated by A.C. energy; Can have A.C. energy modulate D.C. energy simultaneously; Etc. The two most basic / elementary gridpoints, using metal conductors, are the inductive reactant gridpoint, and the capacitive reactant gridpoint. Public domain knowledge..! Clyde Lofton --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060102/584fc2ba/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 2 18:21:47 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 2 18:21:51 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I HATE BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT..! Message-ID: <20060103012147.99459.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> I HATE BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT..! I HATE BEING A CENTER OF ATTENTION..! I JUST WANT A LIFE OF SERENITY, PEACE, AND PRIVACY..! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FROM ANYONE..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060102/e5836fda/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 3 19:20:00 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 3 19:20:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Doom, Gloom, Kaboom! Message-ID: <20060104022000.32373.qmail@mall-net.com> There is Apophis, as some of us know. Apophis is the Greek translation of the Egyptian name Apep, the God of death and destruction. In 2029, maybe again in 2034, this asteroid will come very, very close to creating a crater somewhere on Earth; probably Africa or Europe, if it hits. Estimates range from Richter 6.9, to considerably larger. But not enough to send us back to the stone age, nevermind wiping us out. Only a three mile diameter crater, and less shaking than the Loma Prieta (San Francisco area) Quake of 1989. Though the air shock wave could cause more damage. It probably won't hit. Apep didn't destroy the Egyptians. Apophis won't destroy us. But, for those inclined to scan the skies, there is July 3, 2006. That one will come about one lunar distance away at about 4:30 am, GMT. Calculations are supposed to be fairly good; it will miss. So if you have a telescope, you might find it interesting. The table of near earth orbit asteroids is at: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/neo_ca?type=PHA --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Jan 4 01:10:14 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Wed Jan 4 01:10:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Doom, Gloom, Kaboom! Message-ID: <243.4abb9c4.30ecdce6@aol.com> In a message dated 1/3/2006 9:20:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: But, for those inclined to scan the skies, there is July 3, 2006. That one will come about one lunar distance away at about 4:30 am, GMT. Calculations are supposed to be fairly good; it will miss. So if you have a telescope, you might find it interesting. What if the timing is off by one month and 3 days, then the date would be 6/6/6 HMMMMMMMM Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060104/487b0aa3/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 15:03:27 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 7 15:03:38 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sirocco to Moog interface. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060107220327.10296.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> Paul Hutchinson < phutchinson@imtra.com > wrote: > I am an owner of one Sirocco anemometer, and need to find out how to > specifically transduce or transform the voltage and current output / > the wind speed to voltage and current 'and frequency' output, from > the range of 0 V.A.C. R.M.S. to 2 V.A.C. R.M.S. to a range of 0 V.A.C > to + 5 V.A.C. , with sufficient drive current, to modulate the cutoff > input of my Moog Music Low Pass Filter. Can you all help me out? > > Clyde Lofton Hello, Assuming you want to control a Moogerfooger MF-101 Lowpass Filter YES; THE MF-101 LOW PASS FILTER MOOGERFOOGER IS WHAT I'VE GOT. then you need a 0 to 5VDC output that represents wind speed. ARE THERE TRANSDUCER MODULES THAT MAY ALREADY EXIST, THAT WILL DO THE CONVERSION? We do not have any ready made circuits that could provide this function. To design a custom circuit for you would likely end up costing thousands of dollars. ARE THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT MAY HAVE CONVERSION MODULES, THAT MAY EXIST, BUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE UNAWARE OF? The A70 product from http://www.comptus.com comes close to providing what you need. The fine people at Comptus may be able to modify their A70 to do what you need. OK. I'LL LOOK INTO THE A70. THANKS SINCERELY; CLYDE LOFTON For Maximum Inc. Paul Hutchinson ========================================= Paul Hutchinson Maximum Inc., 30 Samuel Barnet Blvd. New Bedford, MA 02745 phutchinson@imtra.com http://www.maximum-inc.com ========================================= --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060107/970adecd/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 17:33:12 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 7 17:33:17 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS.... Message-ID: <20060108003312.38971.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> I GUESS THAT MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS ARE PERMANENTLY DAMAGED I GUESS. AND I HURT SO BAD. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060107/b8ed1519/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 17:39:12 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 7 17:39:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OR RIGHT TO DO ANYMORE, IN THIS TOWN / IN THIS COUNTRY..? Message-ID: <20060108003912.23470.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> IS THERE ANYTHING REMAINING, TO BE ABLE TO DO IN THIS TOWN OF TULSA, IN THIS COUNTRY OF AMERICA..? I WANNA WORK FOR AN AMERICAN COMPANY THAT SELLS HIGH QUALITY AMERICAN MADE STUFF ONLY; THOUGH IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE THAT THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO COME BY, IN THIS MODERN SELLOUT TO COMMUNIST CHINA, AND THE BILLIONS WASTED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060107/90c1bf9f/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 7 18:13:41 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 7 18:13:54 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OR RIGHT TO DO ANYMORE, In-Reply-To: <20060108003912.23470.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 07, 2006 04:39:12 PM Message-ID: <20060108011341.38936.qmail@mall-net.com> > IS THERE ANYTHING REMAINING, TO BE ABLE TO DO IN THIS > TOWN OF TULSA, IN THIS COUNTRY OF AMERICA..? That's only limited by your imagination, Clyde. > I WANNA WORK FOR AN AMERICAN COMPANY THAT SELLS > HIGH QUALITY AMERICAN MADE STUFF ONLY; THOUGH IT > SEEMS TO ME TO BE THAT THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO > COME BY, IN THIS MODERN SELLOUT TO COMMUNIST > CHINA, AND THE BILLIONS WASTED IN THE MIDDLE BEAST. You have to go look. I'd start on the web, looking up "Tulsa company" "Tulsa corp" and things like that. Then call the personnel departments and chat with them NOT SEEKING A JOB. that way you don't get classified into the job seeking process. If they start talking at you as a potential recruit, make it clear you are NOT seeking a job! Take notes!!! Especially when they mention any names! Later, based on the notes, you can talk to other people in the company, like some high level managers. What it is, is that you are interviewing them, interviewing the company to see what they need done, how they go about doing things, etc. Remember, the job of the personnel department is to keep the vast hoard of job applicants out. They are really the anti-personnel department. The only decent way of getting a job, is to have an executive tell the personnel department that HE has hired you, and they need to handle the paperwork for him. When I need work, I pick up the phone and ask to talk to a specific person. If that's not the right person, I ask him or her who is. Then I tell that other person that the first person told me to call them. The second thing I do, is to get them to talk about their problems. I don't do most of the talking! I do most of the listening by a huge factor! But when something comes up that I know, I ask intelligent questions and make intelligent comments. Even if I know what has to be done, I won't tell him that. I'll ask if he tried something like that, and if he did, get him to discuss that with me. The key to getting a real job is listening. The second key is asking intelligent questions. If you tell them what to do, you will not be hired. Why? Because you didn't listen. You have not seen first hand what the situation is, and so just by telling them what to do, you show that you shoot first, and then don't even bother asking questions. As to what you can do in Tulsa, Clyde; the limit is your imagination and only your imagination! Albert Einstein said that imagination is more important than facts. He was right! Still is! That is why I keep telling you that you need to go out there and take pictures of something beautiful or write about it. This helps grow your imagination and opens your eye to the good about you. You can not do what you can not imagine! Period. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 19:22:16 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 7 19:22:21 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OR RIGHT TO DO ANYMORE, In-Reply-To: <20060108011341.38936.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060108022216.73459.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: That is why I keep telling you that you need to go out there and take pictures of something beautiful or write about it. OK. MAYBE I CAN GET A CAMERA SOMETIME SOON. REDBUD VALLEY IS ABOUT THE LAST PLACE IN TULSA, WHERE THERE IS ANY REMAINING BEAUTY, IN THIS SEEMINGLY EVERLASTING INDUSTRIALIZED WASTELAND. This helps grow your imagination and opens your eye to the good about you. YEAH. You can not do what you can not imagine! Period. ALRIGHT. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060107/d261913c/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 7 19:48:13 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 7 19:48:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OR RIGHT TO DO ANYMORE, In-Reply-To: <20060108022216.73459.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 07, 2006 06:22:16 PM Message-ID: <20060108024813.31060.qmail@mall-net.com> > That is why I keep telling you that you need to go out there and > take pictures of something beautiful or write about it. > > OK. > MAYBE I CAN GET A CAMERA SOMETIME SOON. > REDBUD VALLEY IS ABOUT THE LAST PLACE IN TULSA, > WHERE THERE IS ANY REMAINING BEAUTY, IN THIS > SEEMINGLY EVERLASTING INDUSTRIALIZED > WASTELAND. > > This helps grow your imagination and opens your eye to the good about you. > > YEAH. > > You can not do what you can not imagine! Period. > > ALRIGHT. We're all pulling for you, Clyde. Imagination is the hardest thing to kindle. With that. the world opens before you. Beauty, horror, etc. it all opens, and you get to choose which path you wish to pursue. Most, who don't have much imagination, only trod the path behind the person they follow. A few look over that person's shoulder. Rare is the individual with imagination. Those see beyond, use their imaginations to seek and solve problems, step beyond the path. Imagination requires responsibility, distillation of what one sees, not the running pell mell after the first thing that pops into one's mind. That running is why many don't care to use their imagination. They never gave their imagination times to distill the essence, nor used their imagination to see the best ways of using their creativity, and thus got hurt enough times they decided they didn't want to imagine anymore. They mistakenly think they grew up, rather than killing a part of what makes them human. Campbell said in one of his lectures on the religions of the world, "be careful that when you toss out devils, you don't toss out the best of yourself." He attributed that saying to some Indians tribe. Very true! Good imagination isn't The Vision. It's everyting from the vision to the success, with The Vision being the small part. An essential part of success, but only a part of it. Sagan, in his famous Cosmos series, said that to create an apple pie, you had to first create the universe. So with success, you have The Vision, but you also have to imagine the steps from the vision to the present, then work them into reality. Most of "The Vision" things, on examination and attempting to find the path backwards, will prove too difficult, impractical, etc. So What! Have visions anyway! One or two of them might be doable, Great, etc. If you stop having Visions, if you give up your imagination, you will never get anywhere but where someone else in front of you trod. So you start. You start training your mind by photography, by writing descriptions of what you saw, then launch beyond that. Self training. Clyde, beauty is all around you! Whether there is more beauty than crap... eh, probably more crap. SO WHAT!!! You are going to die anyway. Learn to see the beauty that you make life worth living!!! Because there is one heck of a lot of it out there!!! And you might as well enjoy it so that you make your life worth the living of it to you. And that you shine some light around you and make life worth living for others around you, that they start caring about you. That's not WHY you should be shining the light; but it is one of the benefits of shining that light upon the beauty around you. It takes imagination to see that beauty. Some interesting photos at http://www.photoblogs.org/ (That's an org, not a com.) Some are good, some just don't look good to me. (Some just look awful to me!) Explore! Remember, we're all pulling for you, Clyde. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 18:07:48 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 8 18:08:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SERENITY, PEACE, AND HAPPINESS..! Message-ID: <20060109010748.87005.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> HOW CAN I PERMANENTLY MAKE SERENITY, PEACE, AND HAPPINESS PREVAIL IN MY LIFE..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060108/30316f5d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 18:09:00 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 8 18:09:04 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REALITY. Message-ID: <20060109010900.87328.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> REALITY FOR THE MOST PART, IS HELL FOR MYSELF. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060108/6f7e6426/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 18:22:51 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 8 18:22:56 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT OR RIGHT TO DO ANYMORE, In-Reply-To: <20060108024813.31060.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060109012251.6914.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Explore! Remember, we're all pulling for you, Clyde. WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE ALL PULLING FOR YOU; WHO IS EVERYONE WHO YOU'RE REFERRING TO? DO YOU ALL KNOW MORE ABOUT ME THAN I'VE DISCLOSED TO YOU BEYOND ALL OF THE PAST MAD-SCI LIST POSTINGS? Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. THIS IS ALSO APPLICABLE TO NEIGHBORS AS WELL..! MY NOSY AND INTRUSIVE NEIGHBORS ALSO DESTROY LIFE..! THE MISERABLE NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE MY LIFE MISERABLE, LIKE THEIR MISERABLE LIVES. THEY HAVE VIOLATED THIS ALREADY BROKEN HOME, EVEN FURTHER. Destroy your fear and live. WIPING AWAY THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN, WITH VERY VERY LIMITED RESOURCES.... CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060108/5bd31078/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Jan 9 17:09:51 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Jan 9 17:10:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The new warranty Message-ID: <001501c6157a$2e2fb630$6401a8c0@mikey> The Martian rovers were expected to last only ninety days on Mars. But they are still collecting data, after over two years. It seems that the Martian weather conveniently provides a periodic "car wash" to keep the lenses and solar panels clean and unobscured. I just heard its controller at JPL say, "I'll be driving the rover until its wheels fall off." Yep, a new warranty. Hooaah! -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 9 17:31:33 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 9 17:31:46 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The new warranty In-Reply-To: <001501c6157a$2e2fb630$6401a8c0@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Jan 09, 2006 07:09:51 PM Message-ID: <20060110003133.10640.qmail@mall-net.com> > I just heard its controller at JPL say, "I'll be driving the rover until = > its wheels fall off." > Hooaah! Not so fast! One of the wheels has already "almost fallen off" one of the rovers. I forget whether they fixed it by driving backwards, or have to drive that rover backwards. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 18:01:09 2006 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Mon Jan 9 18:01:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The new warranty In-Reply-To: <001501c6157a$2e2fb630$6401a8c0@mikey> Message-ID: <20060110010109.14393.qmail@web51015.mail.yahoo.com> MB, every once in a while, things work out in a nice way. I like NASA's attitude... Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > The Martian rovers were expected to last only ninety > days on Mars. But they > are still collecting data, after over two years. It > seems that the Martian > weather conveniently provides a periodic "car wash" > to keep the lenses and > solar panels clean and unobscured. > > I just heard its controller at JPL say, "I'll be > driving the rover until its > wheels fall off." > > Yep, a new warranty. > > Hooaah! > > -MB > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From mbest at triad.rr.com Mon Jan 9 18:02:54 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Mon Jan 9 18:03:06 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The new warranty In-Reply-To: <20060110003133.10640.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <002f01c61581$9726ba60$6401a8c0@mikey> > One of the wheels has already "almost fallen off" one of the > rovers. I forget whether they fixed it by driving backwards, or have to > drive that rover backwards. Damn! Who built the thing? China or the UAW? Or did we just use Chinese wheel bearings? -Mike From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 18:41:08 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 9 18:41:13 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN. Message-ID: <20060110014108.41678.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> "I HAVE DISCOVERED THE SECRETS OF THE PYRAMIDS, AND HAVE FOUND OUT HOW THE EGYPTIANS AND THE ANCIENT BUILDERS IN PERU, YUCATAN, AND ASIA, WITH ONLY PRIMITIVE TOOLS, RAISED AND SET IN PLACE BLOCKS OF STONE WEIGHING MANY TONS!" EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060109/9ca8aea1/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 18:43:50 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 9 18:44:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. Message-ID: <20060110014350.516.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> "TODAY'S SCIENTISTS HAVE SUBSTITUTED MATHEMATICS FOR EXPERIMENTS AND THEY WANDER OFF THROUGH EQUATION AFTER EQUATION AND EVENTUALLY BUILD A STRUCTURE WHICH HAS NO RELATION TO REALITY." NIKOLA TESLA --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060109/49f31b5b/attachment.html From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 18:44:53 2006 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Mon Jan 9 18:44:58 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN. In-Reply-To: <20060110014108.41678.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060110014453.48207.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com> They used giant spring assisted Yak!!! Bob --- clyde lofton wrote: > > "I HAVE DISCOVERED THE SECRETS OF THE PYRAMIDS, > AND HAVE FOUND OUT HOW THE EGYPTIANS AND THE > ANCIENT BUILDERS IN PERU, YUCATAN, AND ASIA, WITH > ONLY PRIMITIVE TOOLS, RAISED AND SET IN PLACE > BLOCKS OF STONE WEIGHING MANY TONS!" > > EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Photos > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality > prints in your hands ASAP.> _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 19:17:43 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:17:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Voltage conversion of the output of my anemometer, to match the voltage needed to control, my MF 101.... Message-ID: <20060110021743.54652.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> To whom it concerns, I own a Sirocco anemometer and a Moog Music Moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter, and am in need of a very inexpensive, yet quality professional way to transduce the output of the anemometer to match the voltage that is required to drive the cutoff input of the Moogerfooger. Can you help..? Do you all have a 'micro' transducer that is small enough to transduce the variable 0 V.A.C. to 2 V.A.C. output of the anemometer, to a variable 0 V.D.C. TO +5.V.D.C. to control the cutoff drive for the Moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter..? I hope that you all have a simple transducer solution that will work. Weblinks of importance: http://www.maximum-inc.com/ http://www.maximum-inc.com/index.cfm?p=productDetail&id=132 http://www.maximum-inc.com/index.cfm?p=products&id=11 http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=5 Thanks, Clyde Lofton clydelofton@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060109/437ad4eb/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 9 19:21:57 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:22:01 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN. In-Reply-To: <20060110014453.48207.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com> from "Robert Juliano" at Jan 09, 2006 05:44:53 PM Message-ID: <20060110022157.41058.qmail@mall-net.com> > > "I HAVE DISCOVERED THE SECRETS OF THE PYRAMIDS, > They used giant spring assisted Yak!!! Actually, they used quite a number of rather innovative things which WE FORGOT work! For instance, when they needed to push something and did not have the manpower, they would use multiple bent poles. One man could set ten or twenty of these poles, effectively multiplying his force by the number of poles he set. When some of the archaeologists said that, some of our engineers said it wouldn't work! Force is force, folks, you can add forces. To split rock, after making holes in the rocks, they would insert wooden sticks and pour water on them. This would exert force, breaking the rock if there were enough holes. They discovered the battery, presumably used to electro-plate silver and gold on baser metal. Their medical discoveries were interesting as well. Normally, when large numbers of people are together in a smaller area, as they were for the construction of the pyramids, one would expect epidemics to break out. One doctor who's hobby was archaeology, found records showing they used huge quantities of garlic and onions, thus reducing the chances of epidemics. They also had some forms of surgery, bone setting, trepanning, etc. Our modern pin-tumbler locks come from the much larger wooden locks the Egyptians used. If I recall correctly, the son of an archaeologist at Yale, a Mr. Corbin, reduced the wooden mechanisms to small scale using brass. Hence the Yale and Corbin brands of locks. These were subsequently improved upon by Sargent. So those Egyptians weren't as dumb as many would think. History is full of interesting things people came up with, but did not put into large scale practice because of the lack of what we would call manufacturing facilities capable of producing large numbers of goods. There wasn't a market. The class structure and concentration of wealth did not favor mass production due to the lack of a mass market. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 9 19:29:42 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:29:50 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. In-Reply-To: <20060110014350.516.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 09, 2006 05:43:50 PM Message-ID: <20060110022942.50696.qmail@mall-net.com> > "TODAY'S SCIENTISTS HAVE SUBSTITUTED MATHEMATICS FOR > EXPERIMENTS AND THEY WANDER OFF THROUGH EQUATION > AFTER EQUATION AND EVENTUALLY BUILD A STRUCTURE > WHICH HAS NO RELATION TO REALITY." > NIKOLA TESLA A very interesting quote. In some ways, this is true of the engineering practices; but with our advanced mathematics, we are able to come to rather close approximations of what will happen, and thus design things without extensive experimentation. Though yes, we do miss things. Some outfit did some evolutionary, genetic algorithm type experiments using gate arrays to generate circuits. They found that the circuits, which were produced and evaluated, incorporated some unknown properties of silicon in their evolution. The resulting circuits worked; but included some portions which could not be understood using currently known mathematical models. But without our mathematical modeling, we could not produce the complex chips we have today. Early in my career, I was a computer support person in a semiconductor manufacturing company, helping engineers write programs to simulate semiconductor devices so that they could see how their circuits didn't work, and thus improve them to success. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 19:31:04 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:31:12 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sirocco to Moog interface. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060110023104.46502.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Paul Hutchinson < phutchinson@imtra.com > wrote: you need a 0 to 5VDC output that represents wind speed. MR. HUTCHINSON, DO YOU HAVE THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS OF THE OUTPUT OF THE SIROCCO ANEMOMETER? - THE PRECISE PEAK TO PEAK VOLTAGE AND CURRENT OUTPUTS, RELATIVE TO THE FULL VELOCITY RANGE OF WIND SPEED? WOULD INSTRUMENT TRANSFORMER INC. POSSIBLY HAVE JUST THE RIGHT TRANSDUCER THAT WOULD DO THE JOB OF THE PERFECT CONVERSION? GE INSTRUMENT TRANSFORMER INC. : http://www.geindustrial.com/products/static/iti/redirect.htm THANK SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA ========================================= Paul Hutchinson Maximum Inc., 30 Samuel Barnet Blvd. New Bedford, MA 02745 phutchinson@imtra.com http://www.maximum-inc.com ========================================= --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060109/4b2fe0bc/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 9 19:35:02 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:35:05 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sirocco to Moog interface. In-Reply-To: <20060110023104.46502.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 09, 2006 06:31:04 PM Message-ID: <20060110023502.56117.qmail@mall-net.com> > you need a 0 to 5VDC output that represents wind speed. > > MR. HUTCHINSON, > > DO YOU HAVE THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS OF > THE OUTPUT OF THE SIROCCO ANEMOMETER? - Take the thing and mount it on top of your car. (Or hold it out the window in a safe area.) Have someone drive the car while you take measurements. That's how I calibrated my anemometer when I was in high school. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 19:41:22 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:41:43 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. In-Reply-To: <20060110022942.50696.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060110024122.873.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > "TODAY'S SCIENTISTS HAVE SUBSTITUTED MATHEMATICS FOR > EXPERIMENTS AND THEY WANDER OFF THROUGH EQUATION > AFTER EQUATION AND EVENTUALLY BUILD A STRUCTURE > WHICH HAS NO RELATION TO REALITY." > NIKOLA TESLA A very interesting quote. In some ways, this is true of the engineering practices; but with our advanced mathematics, we are able to come to rather close approximations of what will happen, and thus design things without extensive experimentation. Though yes, we do miss things. Some outfit did some evolutionary, genetic algorithm type experiments using gate arrays to generate circuits. They found that the circuits, which were produced and evaluated, incorporated some unknown properties of silicon in their evolution. The resulting circuits worked; but included some portions which could not be understood using currently known mathematical models. IT IS SIMPLE GEOMETRICAL-TOPOLOGICAL CIRCUIT LOGIC ARANGEMENTS. But without our mathematical modeling, we could not produce the complex chips we have today. TRUE. Early in my career, I was a computer support person in a semiconductor manufacturing company, helping engineers write programs to simulate semiconductor devices so that they could see how their circuits didn't work, and thus improve them to success. I'VE ONLY GOT 4 MINUTES REMAINING, HERE AT THE LIBRARY COMPUTER THIS EVENING. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060109/4b0b82bf/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 9 19:57:44 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 9 19:57:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. In-Reply-To: <20060110024122.873.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 09, 2006 06:41:22 PM Message-ID: <20060110025745.78603.qmail@mall-net.com> > Some outfit did some evolutionary, genetic algorithm type > experiments using gate arrays to generate circuits. They found that the > circuits, which were produced and evaluated, incorporated some unknown > properties of silicon in their evolution. The resulting circuits worked; > but included some portions which could not be understood using currently > known mathematical models. > > IT IS SIMPLE GEOMETRICAL-TOPOLOGICAL CIRCUIT LOGIC > ARANGEMENTS. There's a lot more to it than mere geometry. (I did several projects for both semiconductor companies and semiconductor equipment manufacturing companies, so I got to see a lot of things. Not understand the details, just see the general ideas involved and talk to people who knew the details.) We dope, or implant ions into areas of the materials to form transistors, so we are altering the silicon itself. Then there are capacitance problems, inductive problems, speed issues, etc. involved in creating the geometries of the individual devices, and their interactions. It gets rather complex! Way beyond what I know. A lot of that is on the web these days, available for others to study. > I'VE ONLY GOT 4 MINUTES REMAINING, HERE AT THE LIBRARY > COMPUTER THIS EVENING. Your computer is still down? Have you contacted any of the Linux groups in Tulsa? I sent you a bunch of URLs for them. They would be glad for anther convert. You know, it does not take a lot of computer to run e-mail using Linux. You could even use an old 15 mhz 386 with some of the Linux distributions. That, you could get for a song at one of the Goodwill stores. Bet you could get an early Pentium notebook machine there for a hundred bucks! Good enough for Linux if you don't want to do fancy graphics. Heck, my old Hitachi 133mhz notebook machine did rather good graphics, as long as I didn't really push it with Java or any of the other stuff that you should have turned off anyway. Sad it died. Half the power consumption. I'd still be using it today simply because of the lower power consumption. When I started using the 1.3ghz HP, I had to get a second solar panel and more storage batteries. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Jan 10 02:25:02 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Jan 10 02:25:12 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fourteen cases makes a pandemic??? Message-ID: <007001c615c7$bcec0f20$6401a8c0@mikey> Something fishy here... More die every day in New York City from high-velocity lead poisoning. What is the big deal? -MB _The Times_, London, January 10, 2006 Europe put on alert as bird flu toll keeps rising By Sam Lister, Health Correspondent EFFORTS to contain human cases of bird flu were stepped up across Europe last night after the World Health Organisation confirmed that 14 people in Turkey had now contracted the deadly disease. The H5N1 strain of the virus has emerged in four separate regions of the country, raising fears that it is sweeping west towards Europe proper. The identification of three cases near Ankara, the Turkish capital, prompted European Union officials to widen an existing ban on bird imports and review surveillance efforts. British authorities said last night that the country was primed to move into a new phase of pandemic planning should evidence emerge that the disease had passed directly between humans. Both the WHO and the European Commission emphasised that all the victims so far appeared to have contracted the virus directly from infected birds. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25149-1977813,00.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 09:16:38 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 09:16:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. In-Reply-To: <20060110025745.78603.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060110161638.80693.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I'VE ONLY GOT 4 MINUTES REMAINING, HERE AT THE LIBRARY > COMPUTER THIS EVENING. Your computer is still down? YES: THE NEIGHBORS HAVE VIOLATED MY BROKEN HEART / BROKEN HOME. I AM UNDER GOVERNMENT-MILITARY-MEDIA-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE- -ESPIONAGE-SURVEILLANCE; AND THE LANDLINE IS TAPPED..! I DO NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE, TO BUY ALL OF THE COUNTER SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT THAT I NEED, TO FIND ANY POSSIBLE HIDDEN CAMERA'S, AND ANY POSSIBLE HIDDEN LISTENING DEVICES; THOUGH I THINK BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS BEING USED AGAINST ME; AND EVERY GROUND LOOP AT THE BROKEN HOME CAN SERVE AS SOME FORM OF SOMETHING; THOUGH I CANNOT SAY EXACTLY WHAT; SINCE I DO NOT CLAIM T5O KNOW EVERYTHING. DON'T KNOW IF ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TECHNOLOGY CAN BE UTILIZED IN COOPERATION WITH 60 CYCLE 'DECODING' DEMODULATING AUDIO-RADIO EQUIPMENT.? Have you contacted any of the Linux groups in Tulsa? NO; THOUGH THAT IS SOUNDING LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA. I AM SICK, AND HEARTBROKEN BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE COMPUTER ESPIONAGE ETC. HELL THAT I HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH. I sent you a bunch of URLs for them. They would be glad for anther convert. OK; I WOULD DEFINATELY LIKE TO CONVERT..! BECAUSE I AM SICK OF ALL OF THE WINDOWS MEDIA HACKING SHIT..! I MIGHT HAVE TO DITCH MY YAHOO ACCOUNT; THOUGH I DO NOT WANT TO DO SO. MY YAHOO ACCOUNT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO ME, AND I'D HATE TO LEAVE IT BEHIND; THOUGH I WILL; IF NECESSARY. You know, it does not take a lot of computer to run e-mail using Linux. OK; WELL I DO HAVE A GOOD USED COMPUTER; I DON'T KNOW THE IN'S AND OUT'S OF IT; BUT IT IS UP TO MODERN STANDARDS; I WAS JUST TOLD THAT IT NEEDS A MODERN MOTHERBOARD; THOUGH NOT NECESSARY; IF WHAT YOU SAY BELOW IS NOT A BIG DEAL.... CLYDE You could even use an old 15 mhz 386 with some of the Linux distributions. That, you could get for a song at one of the Goodwill stores. Bet you could get an early Pentium notebook machine there for a hundred bucks! Good enough for Linux if you don't want to do fancy graphics. Heck, my old Hitachi 133mhz notebook machine did rather good graphics, as long as I didn't really push it with Java or any of the other stuff that you should have turned off anyway. Sad it died. Half the power consumption. I'd still be using it today simply because of the lower power consumption. When I started using the 1.3ghz HP, I had to get a second solar panel and more storage batteries. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/31a58b8e/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 09:18:17 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 09:18:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Sirocco to Moog interface. In-Reply-To: <20060110023502.56117.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060110161817.2466.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > you need a 0 to 5VDC output that represents wind speed. > > MR. HUTCHINSON, > > DO YOU HAVE THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS OF > THE OUTPUT OF THE SIROCCO ANEMOMETER? - Take the thing and mount it on top of your car. (Or hold it out the window in a safe area.) Have someone drive the car while you take measurements. That's how I calibrated my anemometer when I was in high school. I TOOK THE ANEMOMETER TO ONE OF THE LOCAL TEST INSTRUMENT LABS, AND WE COULDN'T GET AN EXACT MEASUREMENT OF VOLTAGE AND CURRENT OUTPUT. I NEED AN ABSOLUTE EXACT MEASURMENT OF ITS OUTPUT; TO DO WHAT I NEED DONE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/11fe0f3e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 09:32:39 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 09:32:44 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: SERENITY; PEACE; HAPPINESS: NO IF'S, AND'S, OR BUT'S..! Message-ID: <20060110163239.68022.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED FROM PREVIOUS SEND: NO IF'S, AND'S, OR BUT'S: I JUST WANT: 1. SERENITY..! 2. PEACE..! 3. HAPPINESS..! CLYDE clyde lofton wrote: HOW CAN I PERMANENTLY MAKE SERENITY, PEACE, AND HAPPINESS PREVAIL IN MY LIFE..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/4146e924/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 09:36:17 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 09:36:23 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS.... Message-ID: <20060110163617.94939.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> WHAT SPECIFICALY, DO THE CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS EFFECT..? I GUESS THAT MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS ARE PERMANENTLY DAMAGED I GUESS. AND I HURT SO BAD. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/d472a223/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 11:55:17 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 11:55:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] QUOTING: NIKOLA TESLA. In-Reply-To: <20060110161638.80693.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 08:16:38 AM Message-ID: <20060110185517.62988.qmail@mall-net.com> > Your computer is still down? > > YES: > THE NEIGHBORS HAVE VIOLATED MY BROKEN HEART / BROKEN HOME. > I AM UNDER GOVERNMENT-MILITARY-MEDIA-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE- > -ESPIONAGE-SURVEILLANCE; AND THE LANDLINE IS TAPPED..! It's not your neighbors or the government. you probably just have a virus from some of the script kiddies, ruskis or others who try to play games with people's computers. The government does not have the resources to monitor people like you. They barely have the resources to monitor a small portion of the potential muddle-eastern errorists running around loose in the USA. We know they can't find all the illegal mechicanos! So where do you rate on that scale? Nowhere! > Have you contacted any of the Linux groups in Tulsa? > > NO; THOUGH THAT IS SOUNDING LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA. > I AM SICK, AND HEARTBROKEN BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE COMPUTER ESPIONAGE > ETC. HELL THAT I HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH. Don't worry about it. As long as you are legal in your broadcasts, if any, you are not going to be harassed. The government, and your neighbors, have better things to do. As a consultant, I get involved with all kinds of things. I did a little work in places I'll not talk about. I knew other guys who did too. Every once in a while someone would follow us around a little, just to make sure all was well; but so what! We weren't playing with sick eagles. We were outstanding American Citizens helping keep this country free. As were they. We let them follow, made the job easy for them. I remember on one trip, an agent sat next to me in the airplane. He wasn't yet very good at being that close yet. I didn't let on that I had him pegged right from the start. Took a bit, but I got him talking about some of the other stuff he did which confirmed it to me. Personality type, decision structures behind how he was taking, too many coincidences in interests, and from the conversation, the right pre-government employment history. 95% change he was one of our domestic agents. We had a good chat. I had him do almost all of the talking. Interesting guy, good conversation. Point is, Clyde, if you're not a nasty guy bent upon un-nice things, these folks, if they exist, are not going to do you harm. They are here to make sure everything works well. If you are a decent guy, you don't have anything to fear. And if you are not a decent guy, then I'd strongly suggest you become one; because a decent life is it's own reward. That good feeling you have when you look at yourself in the mirror is worth all the gold in Fort Knox, if that's still where they keep it. I'm not kidding, Clyde. I've nearly died a few times. Knowing deep inside that I am a decent guy is what pulled me through each time. No fear of hell, no fear of anything. No anger, no ill will to others. No wasted energy on those things, so I can put that energy into the inner flame that warms me. > I sent you a bunch of URLs for them. They would be glad for anther convert. > > OK; I WOULD DEFINATELY LIKE TO CONVERT..! > BECAUSE I AM SICK OF ALL OF THE WINDOWS MEDIA HACKING SHIT..! Now that is a legitimate reason! It isn't the government, it's the damned crackers trying to use your computer as part of their zombie machine army. > I MIGHT HAVE TO DITCH MY YAHOO ACCOUNT; THOUGH I DO NOT > WANT TO DO SO. You don't need to. > You know, it does not take a lot of computer to run e-mail using > Linux. > > OK; WELL I DO HAVE A GOOD USED COMPUTER; I DON'T KNOW THE > IN'S AND OUT'S OF IT; BUT IT IS UP TO MODERN STANDARDS; I WAS > JUST TOLD THAT IT NEEDS A MODERN MOTHERBOARD; THOUGH > NOT NECESSARY; IF WHAT YOU SAY BELOW IS NOT A BIG DEAL.... How many megahertz or gigahertz? How much ram and how much disk space? But basically, if you can run Windows, you can run some version of Linux. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 11:58:23 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 11:58:27 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS.... In-Reply-To: <20060110163617.94939.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 08:36:17 AM Message-ID: <20060110185823.65128.qmail@mall-net.com> > WHAT SPECIFICALY, DO THE CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS > EFFECT..? http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/p450.html Detoxification of poisons in the diet and the air. Also how most prescription drugs are detoxified and eliminated. If you are on a lot of prescription drugs, your pathways could simply be overloaded, resulting in higher sensitivity to air pollution, etc. > I GUESS THAT MY CYTOCHROME P-450 PATHWAYS > ARE PERMANENTLY DAMAGED I GUESS. > AND I HURT SO BAD. Don't know, Clyde. It's really not that common if you have not been poisoned or have the family history. Can't tell without a lot of extensive testing. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 12:01:44 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 12:01:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] REVISED: SERENITY; PEACE; In-Reply-To: <20060110163239.68022.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 08:32:39 AM Message-ID: <20060110190145.69497.qmail@mall-net.com> > I JUST WANT: > > 1. SERENITY..! > 2. PEACE..! > 3. HAPPINESS..! 1 is boring, 2 is death, and 3 causes a reduction in awareness. It's also habit forming! If you really want these things, you're going to severely impact your output as a mad scientist. But if you do want them, go look up some Buddhist group and start chanting and meditating with them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 12:02:59 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 12:03:04 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM. Message-ID: <20060110190259.47083.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, TO THE NUCLEAR RADIO-ATION PROBLEM: ANTI-nuclear energy, ='s mass, times dimension; X'ed; Squared (Hexed); Cubed; Circled; Sphered; Triangled; Tetraheed; Etc. The esoteric science behind it is what Mr. Edward Leedskalnin knew about when he built the Coral Castle, in Homestead Florida. That esoteric science goes by two 'main' names: 1. Magnetricity. And; 2. Gridpoints. And with the advent of the mass production of the insulated copper conductor, called the wire; It has made it possible to 'strukt gridpoints, and scale them to any imaginable size; Using the science of topology, combined with native culture artwork known as sacred geometry. The metaphysical imagination is the only limitation as to how one builds gridpoints..! Gridpoints can be powered or unpowered; Can be given electric voltage and current, or no voltage and current; Can be powered by A.C. energy and / or powered by D.C. energy; Can be modulated by A.C. energy, or left unmodulated by A.C. energy; Can have A.C. energy modulate D.C. energy simultaneously; Etc. The two most basic / elementary gridpoints, using metal conductors, are the inductive reactant gridpoint, and the capacitive reactant gridpoint. Public domain knowledge..! Clyde Lofton --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/36faf27f/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 12:49:29 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 12:49:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fourteen cases makes a pandemic??? In-Reply-To: <007001c615c7$bcec0f20$6401a8c0@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Jan 10, 2006 04:25:02 AM Message-ID: <20060110194929.98495.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Something fishy here... > > More die every day in New York City from high-velocity lead poisoning. = > What is the big deal? The big deal is that it constitutes a new market. And guess what! It's only the severe cases that are being reported. Antibodies are apparently common to it, as are those who had it, thought they had the flu, etc. Too many people read The Andromeda Strain. Next thing you know, they will believe the birds ARE the aliens. -JVV- From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 13:03:53 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 13:04:06 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: WHAT IS THE MEASUREMENT SPEED RATE OF TIME, AND WH ref#_1060 In-Reply-To: <9362809.1136911119532.JavaMail.tomcat@www1.retrieve.com> Message-ID: <20060110200353.50653.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> sales@comptus.com wrote: Please contact us at 603-487-5512. Or Email at Comptus.com. OK; I PREFER E-MAIL. I HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO TRANSDUCE THE VERY VERY SMALL A.C. OUTPUT OF MY MAXIMUM ANEMOMETER (THE VOLTAGE AND THE CURRENT), TO MATCH THE NECCESSARY DRIVE INPUT, OF MY MOOG MUSIC MF-101 LOWPASS FILTER MOOGERFOOGER. MR. HUTCHINSON AT MAXIMUM INFORMED ME THAT THE MOOGERFOOGER WILL NEED A: 0 TO +5 V. VARIABLE D.C. INPUT; AND THAT THE VOLTAGE AND CURRENT TIME (RANGE OF THE TIME CONSTANT?) WILL HAVE TO BE PERFECTLY AND INEXPENSIVELY TRANSDUCED, FROM THE 0 TO +2 V. 'HIGH AMPLITUDE' ULTRA LOW FREQUENCY OUTPUT OF THE ANEMOMETER. I'M WONDERING IF THERE MAY ALSO EXIST; A CIRCUIT THAT COULD ALTER THE AUDIO FREQUENCY RISE AND FALL TIME, TO VARY THE RISE AND FALL TIME TO BEING ADJUSTABLE BETWEEN AN ULTRA SLOW SINEWAVE AUDIO FREQUENCY SPECTRUM SWEEPING - ADJUSTABLE ALL OF THE WAY UP TO A VERY VERY FAST, SINEWAVE AUDIO FREQUENCY SPECTRUM SWEEPING RISE AND FALL TIME. I HOPE YOU CAN HELP. PLEASE HELP. SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/744d3146/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 13:52:04 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 13:52:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060110190259.47083.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 11:02:59 AM Message-ID: <20060110205204.48163.qmail@mall-net.com> > 2. Gridpoints. I never could make any sense of what they were talking about. Does anyone on this list really understand this gridpoint business??? Can you explain it for the benefit of the rest of us??? I don't mean parrot what they've said, I mean break it down and explain it in terms of known and accepted physics, experiments, etc. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Jan 10 16:02:24 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Jan 10 16:02:36 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Fourteen cases makes a pandemic??? In-Reply-To: <20060110194929.98495.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c61639$ecadd500$6401a8c0@mikey> > > Something fishy here... > > > > More die every day in New York City from high-velocity lead poisoning. > > What is the big deal? > The big deal is that it constitutes a new market. I guess Roche is making money hand over fist right about now (Tamiflu)! The conspiracy theorist in me thinks Roche designed H5N1. Probably not. But the Swiss are not above taking a healthy profit from human suffering- after all, they held the deposits of Holocaust victims for half a century in their banks. Lotsa interest to be made that way! > Too many people read The Andromeda Strain. Next thing you know, > they will believe the birds ARE the aliens. Did NASA and JPL read Crichton before sending that spacecraft to collect comet dust and bring it back? -Mike From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 18:26:41 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 18:26:51 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060110205204.48163.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060111012641.25375.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > 2. Gridpoints. I never could make any sense of what they were talking about. WHO IS THEY? THE FOLKS WHO TALK ABOUT THE CORAL CASTLE? Does anyone on this list really understand this gridpoint business??? Can you explain it for the benefit of the rest of us??? OBSERVE OVERHEAD POWERLINES; THE POWERLINES THAT CROSS PATHS, THAT CARRY DIFFERENT VOLTAGES FROM DIFFERENT TRANSFORMERS - SUBSTATION TRANSFORMERS, AND POLE MOUNT TRANSFORMERS, THAT EACH CARRY DIFFERENT PHASES RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER; THEY ARE INDUCTIVELY REACTANT TO ONE ANOTHER, BY THE SEPERATION FROM ONE ANOTHER, AND THERE IS AN ELECTROMOTIVE SPIRAL OF UNSEEN ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY THAT FLOWS BETWEEN THEM WHERE THEY CROSS PATHS, BUT WHERE THEY DO NOT CONNECT. THE CAPACITIVE REACTANT GRIDPOINT ON THE OTHER HAND, CONSISTS OF WIRES, OR GRID MESH, WHICH ARE CONNECTED BY EITHER STANDARD WELD, OR BY FUSION WELD AT EACH 'INTERSECT - ' CROSS POINT. I don't mean parrot what they've said, I mean break it down and explain it in terms of known and accepted physics, experiments, etc. OK; HOPE THAT DEFINES IT BETTER..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/77f1275e/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 19:04:49 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 19:05:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060111012641.25375.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 05:26:41 PM Message-ID: <20060111020449.10965.qmail@mall-net.com> > Does anyone on this list really understand this gridpoint > business??? Can you explain it for the benefit of the rest of us??? > > OBSERVE OVERHEAD POWERLINES; THE POWERLINES THAT > CROSS PATHS, THAT CARRY DIFFERENT VOLTAGES FROM > DIFFERENT TRANSFORMERS - SUBSTATION TRANSFORMERS, > AND POLE MOUNT TRANSFORMERS, THAT EACH CARRY > DIFFERENT PHASES RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER; THEY ARE INDUCTIVELY REACTANT TO ONE ANOTHER, BY THE SEPERATION > FROM ONE ANOTHER, AND THERE IS AN ELECTROMOTIVE SPIRAL > OF UNSEEN ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY THAT FLOWS > BETWEEN THEM WHERE THEY CROSS PATHS, BUT WHERE THEY > DO NOT CONNECT. > > THE CAPACITIVE REACTANT GRIDPOINT ON THE OTHER HAND, > CONSISTS OF WIRES, OR GRID MESH, WHICH ARE CONNECTED > BY EITHER STANDARD WELD, OR BY FUSION WELD AT EACH > 'INTERSECT - ' CROSS POINT. This, um, is not generally that much because the distances, etc. are calculated (where possible) to, um, keep inductive interference to a minimum. (I've done some work for EPRI, interviewed for a position dealing with databases of power lines and loads for PG&E in early 89, etc. Interesting chat! But in the end, I turned them down because the building just didn't feel like it would be safe enough in a quake. The building did survive 89 later that year; but the whole area was so jammed with traffic going nowhere that, eh, it just wasn't a good place to be. So I was only half right about it not being safe.) There are all kinds of phase relationships, etc. which can be modeled as an undulating surface. And if substantial links are broken, as they are in some power failures, the cascade of phase shifts (as generators lose synchronicity with the grid) can add up resulting in sufficient voltage (phase) differentials which can "tear" the (imaginary, mathematical) phase surface by putting too much current through remaining links, blowing their fuses/breakers, and cascade like a giant rip across substantial areas of the USA and Canada. This has happened! I don't know if they model it as a phase surface; but some of the language suggests that some of the more advanced calculations do. But unless you are trying to steal electricity by inducing it into wires laid below the power lines, which is illegal by the way, this does not concern the average electricity buyer. > OK; HOPE THAT DEFINES IT BETTER..! I don't think that's what these guys are talking about, unless they are totally deluded. Then again, maybe they are. After all, there are people who watch airplanes take off and note in their log books the numbers on the airplane, as if it has meaning to them... then some form hypothesis of shuttling money, chemtrails, and other nonsense. I think these guys are talking about some other way of getting energy out of some kind of geometric something. It's probably nonsense; but maybe not. It might be possible to harness the oscillations of the geomagnetic and/or solar-geo magnetic interactions to gain electrical energy. Maybe. I don't know! but that's the impression I got from reading some of the gridpoint stuff which I could not fully understand because it, well, just didn't... It seemed to assume there was something behind all that which they never revealed. No solid physics that I could understand, just an assumption that certain things are important without examples, scientific justification, etc. as if it were the secrets of the inner sanctum which you weren't allowed to see till you absolutely believed in the nonsense. It just sounds like the kind of stuff I'd make up in first and second grade to impress other kids; and kids in higher grades would make up to try to impress me. The mysticism of fractional relationships, nuclear power, and a whole lot of other crap I quickly learned to see through. And then there is the religion of self-fulfilling prophesies; ultimately why I stopped going to church. We are a stupersticious species... particularly when we don't know what the heck we are talking about. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 20:15:21 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 10 20:15:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060111020449.10965.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060111031521.6437.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: But unless you are trying to steal electricity by inducing it into wires laid below the power lines, which is illegal by the way, YEAH; I KNOW THAT IT IS ILLEGAL; AND I ALSO KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING IT TOO..! this does not concern the average electricity buyer. > OK; HOPE THAT DEFINES IT BETTER..! I don't think that's what these guys are talking about, unless they are totally deluded. Then again, maybe they are. MAYBE SO; MAYBE NOT..! I think these guys are talking about some other way of getting energy out of some kind of geometric something. YES; THAT'S THE POINT. GEOMETRIC WIRE GRID - INDUCTIVE, CAPACITIVE, AND COIL TOPOLOGIES, SCALED UP OR DOWN, TO VARIOUS SIZES, AND TAPPED AT VARIOUS SPOTS; THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE, TO EXPERIMENT WITH VARIOUS GRID TOPOLOGIES, TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS MIGHT BE. It's probably nonsense; YEAH, IT COULD BE; THOUGH I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO EXPERIMENT ON A LARGE SCALE. but maybe not. It might be possible to harness the oscillations of the geomagnetic and/or solar-geo magnetic interactions to gain electrical energy. YES; I THINK THAT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT; THE HARNESSING OF THE GEOMAGNETIC FIELD OF THE EARTH; SOLAR GEOMAGNETIC INTERACTIONS; AND FROM THE GENERAL FLOW OF ENERGY THROUGHOUT SPACE AND TIME, AT LONGWAVE U.L.F. AND AT LONGWAVE E.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCIES. (L.F.) LOW FREQUENCY RADIO SCIENCE..! Maybe. I don't know! but that's the impression I got from reading some of the gridpoint stuff which I could not fully understand because it, well, just didn't... It seemed to assume there was something behind all that which they never revealed. No solid physics that I could understand, THE SOLID PHYSICS BEHIND IT, IS: LONGWAVE AUDIO RADIO SCIENCE..! http://www.lwca.org I WAS A MEMBER OF THE LONGWAVE CLUB OF AMERICA FOR A WHILE, BACK IN 2000 TO 2001. just an assumption that certain things are important without examples, scientific justification, etc. as if it were the secrets of the inner sanctum INNER SANCTUM IS ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE..! IT IS SACRED..! BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH HEART ISSUES..! The mysticism of fractional relationships, nuclear power, and a whole lot of other crap I quickly learned to see through. And then there is the religion of self-fulfilling prophesies; ultimately why I stopped going to church. 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060110/ed7441b5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 10 20:51:21 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 10 20:51:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060111031521.6437.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 10, 2006 07:15:21 PM Message-ID: <20060111035121.98831.qmail@mall-net.com> > But unless you are trying to steal electricity by inducing it into > wires laid below the power lines, which is illegal by the way, > > YEAH; I KNOW THAT IT IS ILLEGAL; AND I ALSO KNOW HOW > TO GO ABOUT DOING IT TOO..! it's not hard. My problem out here is that there are no power lines. If there were, I'd gladly pay to hook in! (Laughing!) I need the reliability and quantity!!! > I don't think that's what these guys are talking about, unless they > are totally deluded. Then again, maybe they are. > > MAYBE SO; MAYBE NOT..! Does anyone else on this list understand this gridpoint stuff??? > It's probably nonsense; > > YEAH, IT COULD BE; THOUGH I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, > BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO EXPERIMENT > ON A LARGE SCALE. > > but maybe not. There are so many things out there that look like they might work... but which, when you look at the details, just don't. Or rely on poor measurements, inadequate instruments, etc. (True RMS metering vs cheap volt meters, etc.) But if you assume everything IS crap, then you will not find anything new. > It might be possible to harness the oscillations of the > geomagnetic and/or solar-geo magnetic interactions to gain electrical > energy. > > YES; I THINK THAT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT; THE HARNESSING > OF THE GEOMAGNETIC FIELD OF THE EARTH; SOLAR GEOMAGNETIC > INTERACTIONS; AND FROM THE GENERAL FLOW OF ENERGY > THROUGHOUT SPACE AND TIME, AT LONGWAVE U.L.F. AND > AT LONGWAVE E.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCIES. > (L.F.) LOW FREQUENCY RADIO SCIENCE..! I don't know enough about this; but I would think that the tons of electrical distribution lines would pick up some kind of noticable magneto effect if there were such... But my conversations in that interview suggest they are not likely to find it. They seemed to have enough trouble tracking where the power went vs the capacity of their lines, that they, uh, blew a lot of fuses, transformers, even melted the occasional line simply because they DIDN'T KNOW how much power was really going down those lines at any time. You might have three parallel lines, then something happens and one line develops a higher resistance or the load near the tie-point changes, and so the whole current picture changes. Heck, even in Sunnyvale, in the heart of Silicon Valley, we had problems with line voltage dropping to 90 volts at times, then going up past 124 volts at other times. I had a lot of trouble with some of my computers, so i started monitorning the power lines, and OOPS! It's not my computer, it's the power company! I kept complaining, but they didn't seem interested in doing anything about it. I was near the end of a line with a brick/cement making plant nearby. When the cement plant wanted plenty of power, I and my computers lost! > Maybe. I don't know! but that's the impression I got from > reading some of the gridpoint stuff which I could not fully understand > THE SOLID PHYSICS BEHIND IT, IS: LONGWAVE AUDIO RADIO > SCIENCE..! If you can talk about the wavelength coupling, cite formulas as to how much energy, AND WHERE it comes from... that would be interesting. But to just say it's longwave, is like saying the colof of blue is blue because of color science. 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060111/68949390/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 11 20:54:54 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 11 20:55:04 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (FURTHER REVISED:) AN ANTI-NUCLEAR SOLUTION, In-Reply-To: <20060111035121.98831.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060112035454.52807.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > But unless you are trying to steal electricity by inducing it into > wires laid below the power lines, which is illegal by the way, > > YEAH; I KNOW THAT IT IS ILLEGAL; AND I ALSO KNOW HOW > TO GO ABOUT DOING IT TOO..! It's not hard. My problem out here is that there are no power lines. If there were, I'd gladly pay to hook in! (Laughing!) I need the reliability and quantity!!! RIGHT ON..! > I don't think that's what these guys are talking about, unless they > are totally deluded. Then again, maybe they are. > > MAYBE SO; MAYBE NOT..! Does anyone else on this list understand this gridpoint stuff??? MIKE BEST MIGHT. > It's probably nonsense; > > YEAH, IT COULD BE; THOUGH I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, > BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO EXPERIMENT > ON A LARGE SCALE. > > but maybe not There are so many things out there that look like they might work... but which, when you look at the details, just don't. Or rely on poor measurements, inadequate instruments, etc. (True RMS metering vs. cheap volt meters, etc.) I KNOW HOW THAT GOES WITH CHEAP SHIT VOLT METERS VS. TRUE R.M.S. MULTI METERING. But if you assume everything IS crap, then you will not find anything new. I DON'T ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING IS CRAP; BUT I'VE LEARNED JUST AS OTHERS SHOULD LEARN, IF THEY WANT TO WORK TOWARD, AND TO ACHEIVE SUCCESS IN LIFE; THAT THEY CANNOT ACCEPT MOST EVERYTHING AT FACE VALUE..! > It might be possible to harness the oscillations of the > geomagnetic and/or solar-geo magnetic interactions to gain > electrical energy. > > YES; I THINK THAT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT; THE > HARNESSING OF THE GEOMAGNETIC FIELD OF THE EARTH; > SOLAR GEOMAGNETIC INTERACTIONS; AND FROM THE > GENERAL FLOW OF ENERGY THROUGHOUT SPACE AND > TIME, AT LONGWAVE U.L.F. AND AT LONGWAVE E.L.F. > AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCIES. > (L.F.) LOW FREQUENCY RADIO SCIENCE..! I don't know enough about this; but I would think that the tons of electrical distribution lines would pick up some kind of noticable magneto effect if there were such... DEFINATELY..! AND ART BELL HAS TALKED ABOUT IT ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION, ON HIS RADIO PROGRAM; OF HOW THE MASSIVE SOLAR FLARE BLASTS EFFECT THE EARTH ORBITING SATELLITES AND THE ELECTRICAL POWER TRANSMISSION GRID, NEGATIVELY, WITH BOTH HIGH VOLTAGE HIGH POWER SPIKES IN ENERGY, AND BLACKOUTS AS WELL. But my conversations in that interview suggest they are not likely to find it. YEAH; IT'S FAR TOO DAMNED LARGE SCALE, TO MEASURE WITH CONVENTIONAL (SMALL) INDUSTRY INSTRUMENTATION. They seemed to have enough trouble tracking where the power went vs the capacity of their lines, that they, uh, blew a lot of fuses, transformers, even melted the occasional line simply because they DIDN'T KNOW how much power was really going down those lines at any time. YEAH; THAT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE..! You might have three parallel lines, then something happens and one line develops a higher resistance or the load near the tie-point changes, and so the whole current picture changes. YEAH. Heck, even in Sunnyvale, in the heart of Silicon Valley, we had problems with line voltage dropping to 90 volts at times, then going up past 124 volts at other times. YEAH; DURING THE WORST OF THE HEAT OF THE SUMMERTIME, WHEN THE SOLAR ENERGY IS AT IT HIGHEST; DUE TO THE LOW ALTITUDE THERE IN THE CALIFORNIA DESERT; AS WELL AS DUE TO THE MAJOR USAGE OF AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS TOO..! I had a lot of trouble with some of my computers, so I started monitorning the power lines, and OOPS! YEP. It's not my computer, it's the power company! I kept complaining, but they didn't seem interested in doing anything about it. I was near the end of a line with a brick/cement making plant nearby. When the cement plant wanted plenty of power, I and my computers lost! HMM. > Maybe. I don't know! but that's the impression I got from reading > some of the gridpoint stuff which I could not fully understand > THE SOLID PHYSICS BEHIND IT, IS: LONGWAVE AUDIO > RADIO SCIENCE..! If you can talk about the wavelength coupling, WAVELENGTH COUPLING; I DON'T KNOW A DAMNED THING ABOUT; THOUGH I DO KNOW THAT THE ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS DO NEED GOOD QUALITY COUPLING. cite formulas as to how much energy, SORRY; I CAN'T CITE ANY FORMULAS; THEY WOULDN'T DO ME ANY GOOD ANYWAY. AND WHERE it comes from... that would be interesting. YEAH WELL; I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE OF WHERE IT COMES FROM. THE POWER PLANT GENERATORS SELF GENERATE A CONTINUOUS ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, WHEN SPUN AT A CONTINUOUS AND SPECIFIC R.P.M. ; OR CONTINUOUS R.P.S. THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD IS STARTED BY BEING WHAT THE POWER PLANT FLASHED ENGINEERS TERM AS FIELD FLASHING. THE ENGINEERS WHO I SPOKE TO, WOULD NOT GO INTO DETAILS OF EXACTLY HOW THEY FIELD FLASH, AND START THE HIGH GAUSS, ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS IN THE FIRST PLACE. I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE A GARGANTUAN BATTERY BANK; AND PERHAPS A GARGANTUAN SIZED CAP BANK JUST AS WELL, TO START THE HIGH STRENGTH E.M. FILED/S, FOR HIGH POWER ELECTRICAL GENERATION. But to just say it's longwave, is like saying the color of blue is blue because of color science. That doesn't tell me why it reflects the frequency band called blue. WELL YEAH; YOU'RE RIGHT. I HOPE I WENT INTO ENOUGH DETAIL. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVEY I THINK; UNLESS I DIDN'T THINK OF SOMETHING EXACT, AND HAVE POSSIBLY MISTAKENLY LEFT SOMETHING OUT THAT I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE ON / IN. LET ME KNOW. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060111/ef68368a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 11 21:18:16 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 11 21:18:20 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MAJOR CORRECTION.... In-Reply-To: <20060112035454.52807.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060112041816.69553.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> (MAJOR CORRECTION:) AND WHERE it comes from... that would be interesting. YEAH WELL; I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE OF WHERE IT COMES FROM. THE POWER PLANT GENERATORS SELF GENERATE A CONTINUOUS ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, WHEN THEY ARE SPUN AT A CONTINUOUS AND SPECIFIC R.P.M. / CONTINUOUS AND SPECIFIC R.P.S. THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE GENERATORS, ARE STARTED, BY BEING WHAT THE POWER PLANT ENGINEERS, TERM, AS: FIELD FLASHING. THOUGH THE POWER PLANT ENGINEERS WHO I SPOKE TO, WOULD NOT GO INTO DETAILS OF EXACTLY HOW THEY FIELD FLASH, AND START THE HIGH GAUSS, ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS IN THE FIRST PLACE; AS THOUGH THEY WERE HIDING THEIR TRADE SECRETS FROM ME. I WOULD ASSUME THOUGH, THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE A GARGANTUAN SIZED BATTERY BANK; AND PERHAPS A GARGANTUAN SIZED CAPACITOR BANK, JUST AS WELL, TO START THE HIGH STRENGTH E.M. FIELDS, FOR HIGH POWER ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION. But to just say it's longwave, is like saying the color of blue is blue because of color science. That doesn't tell me why it reflects the frequency band called blue. WELL YEAH; YOU'RE RIGHT. I HOPE I WENT INTO ENOUGH DETAIL.THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVEY I THINK; UNLESS I DIDN' T THINK OF SOMETHING EXACT, AND HAVE POSSIBLY MISTAKENLY LEFT SOMETHING OUT THAT I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE ON / IN. LET ME KNOW. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do powerplants have to keep charged battery banks on hand, at the powerplant facilities, to use, in conjunction with alternators, to keep the steel generator cores, constantly charged with magnetism? 2. How do powerplant engineers keep the steel cores of the powerplant generators, constantly magnetized? 3. Are all cores of all powerplant generators, made completely of steel, or are some of them made of exotic permanent magnet(ic) material, such as neodymium? 4. Just how powerful are the magnetic fields of powerplant generators, and what method is most used, to measure them (Tesla, Gauss, or Oerstead), and why? 5. What type of magnetometers do electrical engineers use, to measure the magnetic field strength of powerplant generators? 6. How are the steel cores of powerplant generators, initially charged, in the very first place? 7. Can electric generators be designed differently, and more efficiently, with alternative topologies (alternative magnet topologies, and alternative coil, and copper conductor topologies)? 8. What is the highest efficiency that a permanent magnet generator can be designed, to produce? 9. What are the highest current, voltage, and power outputs, that can be obtained, from permanent magnet generators? 10. Do patented, and/or unpatented, extremely high efficiency, permanent magnet generator topologies exist? 11. What advantages do permanent magnet generators have, over steel core generators that work on electromagnetism only, and vise versa? 12. Do brushless, (high efficiency) D.C. generators exist? Can my twelve questions be answered satisfactorily, and in detail? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20060112035454.52807.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060112054456.22731.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> ACTUALLY; I CAN EXPAND A LITTLE: I DON'T KNOW WHAT IN THE HELL I WAS OR WASN'T THINKING EARLIER; BUT I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT I WENT INTO IN THE PREVIOUS POSTING: javilk@mall-net.com wrote: If you can talk about the wavelength coupling, LONGWAVE COUPLING IN ANTENNA SCIENCE / ANTENNA ENGINEERING WOULD MEAN THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE MOST ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY IN LONGWAVE ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION RADIATION; ONE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THE WIRE CONDUCTOR(S) AS ABSOLUTELY LONG AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN, FOR THE MOST ABSOLUTE EFFICIENT ENERGY TRANSMISSION AS IS POSSIBLE..! Cite formulas as to how much energy, I HOPE THE WEBLINKS BELOW, ADD MORE CLARITY: http://www.geindustrial.com http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/library http://www.geindustrial.com.cwc/library?famid=42&lang=en_US http://www.sandc.com/support/glossary.asp http://www.gisdevelopment.net/application/utility/power/mi04125pf.htm http://www.wipo.int/cgi-pct/guest/getbykey5?KEY=99/16160.990401&ELEMENT_SET=DECL http://www.ab.com/drives/techpapers/PowerDistributionSystems01.pdf#search='DISTRIBUTION%20TRANSFORMER%20MANUAL.' --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060111/6ad431aa/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 11 23:01:43 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 11 23:01:48 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SWITCHGEAR.... In-Reply-To: <20060111035121.98831.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060112060143.96736.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: They seemed to have enough trouble tracking where the power went vs the capacity of their lines, that they, uh, blew a lot of fuses, transformers, even melted the occasional line simply because they DIDN'T KNOW how much power was really going down those lines at any time. YEAH; THAT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE..! You might have three parallel lines, then something happens and one line develops a higher resistance or the load near the tie-point changes, and so the whole current picture changes. YEAH; THERE IS SWITCHGEAR INVOLVED IN THIS; COMPUTERIZED SUBSTATION TECHNOLOGIES SWITCH LINES, AND SWITCH TRANSFORMERS, TO DIRECT VOLTAGE AND CURRENT SPIKES TO EARTH GROUND TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE UTILITY EQUIPMENT, AND PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE CUSTOMERS FOR THE MOST PART, DEALING WITH LIGHTNING STRIKES DURING THUNDERSTORMS; AND OTHER VOLTAGE AND CURRENT SPIKES THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY ON THE LINES. I'M TIRED; I NEED TO GO FOR NOW. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060111/fd832143/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 12 01:40:52 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 12 01:41:01 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BACK TO THE START; In-Reply-To: <20060112043015.41972.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 11, 2006 08:30:15 PM Message-ID: <20060112084052.98113.qmail@mall-net.com> > 1. Do powerplants have to keep charged > battery banks on hand, at the powerplant > facilities, to use, in conjunction with > alternators, to keep the steel generator cores, > constantly charged with magnetism? There are all kinds of other energy storage devices. One that had a good run was a large flywheel device installed in most power plants after the Big Northeast Blackout in the late 60's(?). It had just enough storage to get the plants back on line. Generator cores are generally not steel. Steel has a very poor magnetic capability compared to soft iron. I just overhauled an Onan generator. (Actually, two of them. One needed wiring repairs, the other one needed a new field coil.) There is a field coil on the rotor, and that supplies the magnetism. It is first charged from the starter battery. Some designs also use the generator as a motor to start the internal combustion engine that drives the generator, like my old 4kw Onan. Some smaller generators have magnetized iron cores; a Honda pull-start one that I had two years ago used this; but this is ONLY used to provide enough start-up excitation to generate enough current that it can get the field coil going. > 2. How do powerplant engineers keep the > steel cores of the powerplant generators, > constantly magnetized? They don't use steel cores. They use field coils powered by the electricity the generator produces. Hence the need for flywheel storage to get things back up after a catastrophic trip-out. > 3. Are all cores of all powerplant generators, > made completely of steel, or are some of > them made of exotic permanent magnet(ic) > material, such as neodymium? Way too expensive. Copper coils. Permanent magnets are not permanent! > 4. Just how powerful are the magnetic fields > of powerplant generators, and what method > is most used, to measure them (Tesla, Gauss, > or Oerstead), and why? > > 5. What type of magnetometers do > electrical engineers use, to measure > the magnetic field strength of powerplant > generators? The electrical output is a function of the magnetic field. That's all they really need to measure unless something appears seriously wrong with a specific generator. Then they call in a technician, or send the generator out for repair. > 6. How are the steel cores of powerplant > generators, initially charged, in the very first > place? By connecting them to the power grid; using power from other generators on the grid. Hence the big blackout and the long down time during that first major power outage. Once a station tripped off the grid, they couldn't come back up! Only as other stations nearby came up, could they get the power to come up. And that is why one company made a ton of money selling flywheel based energy storage to the power companies in the 70s. I know some people who were involved with that. > 7. Can electric generators be designed > differently, and more efficiently, with > alternative topologies (alternative magnet > topologies, and alternative coil, and > copper conductor topologies)? Economics drives the design of generators. You see, efficiency is measured not as pure abstract physics; but what is known as ROI, Return On Investment. How much money can I buy in the future by putting money where today? So if you have a wonderfully efficient generator that costs twice the price of a good enough generator, the company will buy what gives them the most return on their investment, NOT the most physics-efficient generator there is. If they did, they'd go broke! > 8. What is the highest efficiency that a > permanent magnet generator can be > designed, to produce? There is no such thing as a permanent-permanent magnet! Permanent magnets run the risk of loss of magnetism due to many things. I remember reading the instructions on one generator that I bought, saying that if certain things happened, you lose the magnetic field in the core, and you are out of business till you to thus and such to remagnetize the thing. But you need electricity to do that! In a heavy power generator, you are basically pushing against magnetism all the time. With heat, counter-magnetism, etc. it's not a good idea to rely on a non-permanent permanent magnet. Even that Honda generator didn't rely on a permanent magnet for operating energy. They only used the magnetic core to provide enough energy at the start to energize the field coil. And another permanent magnet to operate the magneto firing the spark plugs. For the real power, it is the field coil powered by the electricity the generator generates. Anyone else have experience with generators? Mike? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 12 01:57:53 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 12 01:57:56 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MAJOR CORRECTION.... In-Reply-To: <20060112041816.69553.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 11, 2006 08:18:16 PM Message-ID: <20060112085753.16132.qmail@mall-net.com> > YEAH WELL; I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE OF WHERE IT COMES > FROM. > THE POWER PLANT GENERATORS SELF GENERATE A > CONTINUOUS ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, WHEN THEY ARE > SPUN AT A CONTINUOUS AND SPECIFIC R.P.M. / > CONTINUOUS AND SPECIFIC R.P.S. > THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE GENERATORS, > ARE STARTED, BY BEING WHAT THE POWER PLANT > ENGINEERS, TERM, AS: FIELD FLASHING. Yep. And if the field don't flash, you don't get any output. As I found out when my generators didn't run right. > THOUGH THE POWER PLANT ENGINEERS WHO I SPOKE > TO, WOULD NOT GO INTO DETAILS OF EXACTLY HOW THEY > FIELD FLASH, AND START THE HIGH GAUSS, > ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS IN THE FIRST PLACE; AS THOUGH > THEY WERE HIDING THEIR TRADE SECRETS FROM ME. Laughing! The secrets are safe from them too! Safe in the textbooks no one really wants to open. Most of these guys are not real engineers. They don't design anything! All they do is watch the meters, make sure they have this and that running, and make what repairs they can as needed or ship things out to wherever they were made for more extensive repairs. Ask them theory, and they don't remember anything! Why? Because they don't need to. > I WOULD ASSUME THOUGH, THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY > REQUIRE A GARGANTUAN SIZED BATTERY BANK; AND > PERHAPS A GARGANTUAN SIZED CAPACITOR BANK, JUST AS > WELL, TO START THE HIGH STRENGTH E.M. FIELDS, FOR > HIGH POWER ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION. Nope. It does not take much at all. As the generator spins up, you provide just enough energy to develop some magnetism. This magnetism then provides more electrical energy, which goes in to provide more magnetism and that provides more electrical energy. It is a feedback loop as it gets started. Then when you have enough current output, you regulate the voltage by regulating the field current. That way, you can run the rotor at a fixed speed and so maintain synch with the 60hz grid and still adjust current output to maintain your 120 volts. In some generators, such as the Honda I had, the residual magnetism from the field coil, as imprinted in the metals holding the coil together, is enough to allow this current build-up to occur. In other generators, they use the battery to do this. If is called a flash because the weak field flashes up to a strong field in a very short time, just like a flame may flash some spilled gasoline into a conflagration. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 12 02:23:18 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 12 02:23:23 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SWITCHGEAR.... In-Reply-To: <20060112060143.96736.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 11, 2006 10:01:43 PM Message-ID: <20060112092318.46797.qmail@mall-net.com> > They seemed to have enough trouble tracking where the > power went vs the capacity of their lines, that they, uh, blew a lot > of fuses, transformers, even melted the occasional line simply > because they DIDN'T KNOW how much power was really going > down those lines at any time. > > YEAH; THAT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE..! > > You might have three parallel lines, then something happens > and one line develops a higher resistance or the load near the > tie-point changes, and so the whole current picture changes. > > YEAH; THERE IS SWITCHGEAR INVOLVED IN THIS; > COMPUTERIZED SUBSTATION TECHNOLOGIES SWITCH > LINES, AND SWITCH TRANSFORMERS, TO DIRECT VOLTAGE > AND CURRENT SPIKES TO EARTH GROUND TO PREVENT Not at this level. They just string lines, rate them, and... try to keep things balanced. it is mostly manual work by crews out in the field. And sometimes, they get the paper work wrong, don't file the papers the right way, etc. so they don't realize how much power is being demanded. All those watt-hour meters are there only for billing purposes. The data is not generally used to estimate how much current is going down what lines. At least not often. It's more the complaints of burning transformers, blown breakers, and local outages that tell them when they need to upgrade the power lines or transformers. I am hoping some of that changed since the late 80's; but based on what I've heard from some folks in growing neighborhoods, I doubt it. > DAMAGE TO THE UTILITY EQUIPMENT, AND PREVENT > DAMAGE TO THE CUSTOMERS FOR THE MOST > PART, DEALING WITH LIGHTNING STRIKES DURING > THUNDERSTORMS; AND OTHER VOLTAGE AND CURRENT > SPIKES THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY ON THE LINES. The switching that goes on is more in load shedding, cross tie agreements, etc. than dealing with spikes. They don't have much control. Most of the transformers are generally fixed, not adjustable; so they can't raise or lower voltage that easily. All they can do, is put more or less in through controlling their generators or shedding loads. (Though I don't quite know how they run rotating brown-outs.) This isn't rocket science involving millisecond response control systems. There is no need for that. You send out a worker with a long insulated pole to close or open this or that large knife switch for a lot of this stuff. I've seen it, albeit many years ago. Remember, these guys are on a tight budget run not by their management, but imposed upon them by the Public Utilities Commission. Anything they want to charge for, anything they want to change about their operations, they have to do in compliance with a bunch of regulations enforced by the Public Utilities Commission. And the PUC is pulling in the opposite direction of the stock holders and Securities and Exchange Commission. So the power company management is sitting there in the midst of the crossfire, not making enough money to have enough redundancy, new equipment, etc. And if that's bad, places like Connecticut have even more problems where no one wants the big power lines to go through their town! So large portions of Connecticut are on the edge of running out of power. They have brown-outs during hot summer evenings; some power failures as existing lines blow, etc. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 09:05:13 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 09:05:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: MAJOR CORRECTION.... In-Reply-To: <20060112085753.16132.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060112160513.40804.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: In some generators, such as the Honda I had, the residual magnetism from the field coil, as imprinted in the metals holding the coil together, is enough to allow this current build-up to occur. YEAH; THE CURRENT HAS A STACKING EFFECT..! In other generators, they use the battery to do this. If is called a flash because the weak field flashes up to a strong field in a very short time, just like a flame may flash some spilled gasoline into a conflagration. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. 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You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/c0ace088/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 16:39:38 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 16:39:42 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... Message-ID: <20060112233938.30968.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED FROM ANOTHER SEND: 1. America has become an insane despotism. 2. The Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party have got to be supported with equality, to ensure a better future for this currently super divided country under the Democrats and the Republicans..! Clyde --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/c01d48fb/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 17:30:49 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 17:30:54 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (RETYPED AND REVISED FROM ANOTHER POSTING; ) CHILD ABUSE AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT. Message-ID: <20060113003049.64133.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> (RETYPED AND REVISED FROM ANOTHER POSTING;) CHILD ABUSE AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT: I WAS ABUSED AS A CHILD; AND SO I KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE ABUSED. THIS IS A VERY TOUGH SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT, DUE TO THE COMPLEXITIES INVOLVED IN THE DUE PROCESS OF JUSTICE / LAW ENFORCEMENT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WAS RAISED IN A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN HOUSEHOLD; I HAVE FEELINGS OF BOTH MERCY AND HATRED WITHIN MYSELF, TOWARD BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE. IN A SONG, BY A BAND CALLED PANTERA; PART OF THE SONG LYRICS READ THAT MAN SHOULD HAVE DEATH DOWN TO A SCIENCE; AND INDEED I HAVE NOW LEARNED OF HOW DEATH CAN BE BROUGHT DOWN TO A SCIENCE, THROUGH A PERSONAL RESEARCH PROJECT OF MINE, SHARED BY A FRIEND. AND SO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE A CHOICE BEFORE US; TO SERVE PEACEFUL JUSTICE EQUALLY FOR EVERYONE, OR FACE A HORRIFIC FUTURE FOR ALL OF US EQUALLY, IN CIVIL WAR..! THE SUBJECT IS CALLED: ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT. ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT CAN BE USED TO INDUCE PEACEFUL BRAIN DEATH INTO HARDENED CRIMINALS; THOSE OF WHO MOST PEOPLE OF CONSCIENCE FEEL MIXED EMOTIONS TOWARD. SOME PEOPLE OF WHO FEEL FEELINGS OF MERCY TOWARD; AND OTHERS OF WHO FEEL TOTAL FEELING OF ANIMOSITY AND HATRED TOWARD; HARDENED CRIMINALS WHO HAVE CARRIED OUT HORRENDOUS CRIMES AGAINST BOTH YOUTH, AND ADULTS. I HOPE THIS MAKES A STRONG AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE BETTERMENT OF THE FUTURE OF AMERICA. I AM ANGRILY FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE IN THIS NOW SUPER DIVIDED AND RUINED COUNTRY OF AMERICA..! CLYDE LOFTON JR. TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/43292498/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 18:33:49 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 18:34:06 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TESLA: FREEDOM SLAVES LYRICS. Message-ID: <20060113013349.14878.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> TESLA: FREEDOM SLAVES LYRICS: http://www.music-lyrics-spy.com/artist/Tesla-lyrics/Freedom-Slaves-lyrics.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/d5245c94/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 18:53:26 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 18:53:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND AMERICA..! Message-ID: <20060113015327.77632.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> IS THERE ANY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, AND FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA..? 1. THE INSANE DESPOTISM THAT AMERICA HAS BECOME..! 2. THE CONSTITUTION PARTY..! 3. THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY..! 4. PROGRESS TOWARD A BETTER FUTURE, EQUALLY, FOR EVERYONE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/3c1eda92/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 12 19:13:09 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 12 19:13:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... In-Reply-To: <20060112233938.30968.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 12, 2006 03:39:38 PM Message-ID: <20060113021309.90221.qmail@mall-net.com> > 1. America has become an insane despotism. If you think this is despotism, you've not read much about those banana republics! Or Libya, or any of the African nations. No real mad scientists there! Read on! More about the REAL mad scientists further on. > 2. The Constitution Party and the > Libertarian Party have got to be supported > with equality, to ensure a better future > for this currently super divided country > under the Democrats and the Republicans..! Hard to do with only one vote... And for most people, either the Republicans or Democrats have a lot of what they want. This is still a Democracy, Clyde. Bush was elected, and he is finishing up his eight years of servitude. He certainly did a better job than Carter, Nixon, maybe Clinton. (I certainly think he did better than Clinton! But I know others disagree.) We keep turning these guys over, so they really can't become despots. This is a good country, Clyde; better by far than most nations! I think America is the Best nation, but I'll grant that I might be biased. There are a few nations here or there that might be better in this way or that; but overall, I think America is the best nation by far. Now, could we do better? Sure! I didn't particularly like Bush; but I thought he was better than the other guys that ran against him. And he did conduct the office and the nation with reasonable honor in my opinion. A heck of a lot better than Clinton and Monica!!! As good as could be done, given the circumstances. He may not be a mad scientist, real or fake; but I particularly like that Bush put us back on track for outer space! The only question I have is the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I support the war and the decision; but I see that we didn't understand, didn't even have a clue what we were getting into when we had to occupy it! Mega screw-up! But we are in there, and we have to do what we can to get their new Democracy going. That is an honorable goal, one of the best things we could do to stabilize the muddle east and diffuse the extremist Muslim theocrazyness. I think it a good chance we will succeed, too. I agree we did have to do it. I just think we should have thought it out a little more before we did. Why does America have so many mad scientists? America is no better than its people. I think it is our people who are far better, have far more open hearts and minds than any other nation I've read about in the past half century. (A few of the Baltics may have been better before WW-II; but they were too small to influence the world the way America does, or even to prevail themselves in those trying times.) We've given the world an education. People from all nations have come to our universities to be educated in engineering, business, and government. And many more wish to enter, and wish to stay! They want to vote for America with their feet and their lives! We defended the free at huge cost in WW-II, freed inordinate numbers of people, helped establish democracies in nations that were dictatorships. We broke the back of the two most oppressive threatening systems in the last century. Again, at Huge cost to ourselves. We showed the world that Space does matter, that we CAN put men on the moon, and perhaps elsewhere. We created consumerism, The Internet, the practical automobile, the practical home computer, practical home electricity, labor saving home appliances, and a whole lot of things that have made our world what it is. And yes, we have the culture, and the economic base that it takes to encourage mad scientists to come up with all kinds of stuff like the above. I know of no other nation that I could have grown up to be this wild and free character that I am, a character that loves to invent new things, and is free enough to try new ideas. This is the nation to be in. Even sitting here on a lonely mountain with all the problems I have living here; THIS is THE NATION to live in! So don't give me this bullshit that this nation is insane, or despotic! I've seen things that are far worse, lost relatives fighting for freedom, and relative for their lack of freedom. I may be broke at the moment; but I am not even close to being broken! And neither are you! I am broke because of my own ignorance, my own mistakes, and that is my own responsibility. And acknowledging that, I am NOT broken. For if I blamed some system or other bogeyman, as many do, I would have given up and accepted that nothing can be done. THEN I WOULD be broken! It may be hard to do things without tons of investment capital; but nowhere near impossible! It never stopped a Real entrepreneur with an Idea from trying! We acknowledge our failures and shortcomings, then set out to overcome them. I may go down in flames again due to my ideas, because I try things not that likely to succeed; but that's MY choice, and MY character. It is because of beliefs and characters like mine, that we DID get the web, the practical home computer, the practical automobile, the practical airplane, and myriads of other wonderful things people couldn't even imagine a mere 50 or 100 years ago! (Could anyone imagine a MASS CONSUMER HOME COMPUTER in 1950??? 1960??? Maybe 1970. I built one in 1975, but to think it would be as popular as a car???) These are the kinds of inventions people like us mad scientists come up with. Some catch on. Some don't. But if we didn't try, nothing would happen! If it wasn't for this streak of mad scientist in the American Psyche, the whole world would still be in the 1600's! Or maybe the 1400's, as that mad scientist Cristoforo Columbo wouldn't have made his mad scientist gamble in 1492. Now there, was a Real Mad Scientist! God [whatever designated Creatorial agency or system you believe in] Bless America, Land That I Love! It's the American People! It's ALL the American People! That's what made this nation great, and what makes our people great! It brings tears to my eyes thinking how ABSOLUTELY LUCKY I am that my parents made it to these shores at the end of WW-II. How we were accepted, fed, clothed, and allowed to grow to be Free Americans! And how the other side took in the SAME kind of people, including some of our relatives and the relatives of family friends, oppressed them, ground them up, killed them, and got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in return!!! That is the biggest example in all of history how nations should be run, and how life should be lived!!! That's why we on this list keep encouraging you, Clyde. We live and breathe that example. So stop bitching about how you think things are bad, and STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE!!! You ARE in heaven! There are ALL KINDS of FRIENDLY PEOPLE all around you! You just have to reach out. All it takes, is a smile on your face, and a friendly tone of voice. Go attend some of the Linux group meetings. Go find some other groups with similar interests. You'll love it here! Yes, even in Tulsa! Tulsa isn't any worse than a bunch of other places, and a lot better than many. It's what YOU make of the place that counts, not what some dumb neighbor or stupid boss-of-the-moment thinks. Life is what YOU make of it! So go make something of it already! I mean, how else are you going to like the life you lived??? How else are you going to get that spunk and character than by having doing things that you knew in your heart were worth doing??? Stop telling yourself you can't do this or that, and maybe you'll do something. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 12 20:15:20 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 12 20:15:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... In-Reply-To: <20060113021309.90221.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060113031520.96879.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID; BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY BIASED..! AS AN INDEPENDENT; I SEE THAT POLITICS HAS ABSOLUTELY SCREWED SCIENTIFIC PROGRESSION..! BIG BUSINESS AND GREED SEEM TO REIGN SUPREME IN AMERIKA..! I VOTED FOR BUSH IN HIS FIRST TERM. BUT KERRY AND BUSH AS THE ONLY CHOICES TO CHOOSE FROM; THAT IS NONSENSE..! javilk@mall-net.com wrote: --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060112/f622ec85/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 12 21:57:04 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 12 21:57:13 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... In-Reply-To: <20060113031520.96879.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 12, 2006 07:15:20 PM Message-ID: <20060113045704.12033.qmail@mall-net.com> > I DON'T DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT > YOU SAID; BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY > BIASED..! We all have our biases, Clyde. > AS AN INDEPENDENT; I SEE THAT POLITICS > HAS ABSOLUTELY SCREWED SCIENTIFIC > PROGRESSION..! I don't see that. It hasn't promoted it as much as we might like... but let's face it, politics is politics. Politics isn't going to promote what private industry and private individuals do for their own profit. Yes, we should have pushed for establishing bases on the moon and the sea floor! But we DO have a NASA, and we do have budgetary constraints. > BIG BUSINESS AND GREED SEEM TO REIGN > SUPREME IN AMERIKA..! As long as it does not crush new sprouts, greed -- mild greed -- is a strong motivating force to get people to do things. When it creates Enrons and Worldcoms, then it's bad and those frauds should be locked up for a Long, LONG time! > I VOTED FOR BUSH IN HIS FIRST TERM. > BUT KERRY AND BUSH AS THE ONLY > CHOICES TO CHOOSE FROM; THAT IS > NONSENSE..! Oh, I'll certainly agree with that!!! But I think the smart guys know what they would be getting into and don't want to be politicians. It's politicians that give politics a bad name. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 13 02:24:40 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 13 02:24:59 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... In-Reply-To: <20060113045704.12033.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Jan 13, 2006 04:57:04 AM Message-ID: <20060113092440.28055.qmail@mall-net.com> > > > I DON'T DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT > > YOU SAID; BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY > > BIASED..! > > We all have our biases, Clyde. I should have added that I learned most of my biases through experience, not by borrowing them from other people the way most people do. And that peculiar mix means that I don't fit cleanly in any pigeon hole you may wish to stuff me. A lot of thinking people tend to be that way, and they usually politely disagree with each other. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Jan 13 10:26:23 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Jan 13 10:26:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... Message-ID: <292.3ebacb2.30f93cbf@aol.com> In a message dated 1/12/2006 9:13:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: 1. America has become an insane despotism. If you think this is despotism, you've not read much about those banana republics! Or Libya, or any of the African nations. I agree with all you have said, however I cannot help the "pricking in my thumbs when something wicked this way comes." So much, way too much is going on that boggles my mind .The, seems to me, new path America is hurling itself down, utter chaos in the future. The ACLU is driving me nuts. PETRA on the face of it values animals more then humans. We lower our standards so just about anyone can become a teacher, police or fireman. Now, our right to own our own land is at stake, anyone with money can force you to sell to them at a price you cannot contest. This is the one point that scares the shit out of me. We have this Judge that gave a man 60 days in jail for molesting a child at age of 2 until they turned 6. The Judge noted he no longer believes in PUNISHMENT. -- I suggest a good horse whipping for that Judge. I wonder how many other judges today agree with him??? It makes me wonder just how many of our law makers belong to LMBL, the society that wants to change the age of consent for sex to 8 years old. Our illegal aliens are given Free college admissions, drivers licensees, can BUY and OWN American land, and thumb their noses at the people, like your parents that came here, going through all the paper work, and hard ships to become legal. When your folks came here, did they get to call an ambulance because they had a head ache? And not pay??? Did they get Free legal assistance ?? Were YOU and siblings given free college educations???? Did anyone in your family break the law but was not arrested??? You cannot even begin to compare what's going on in today's world with what your family went through. America was build for people like YOU'RE family, people who had sponsors, a community waiting to accept them.,guide them. Your family came here for FREEDOM, not to gobble up as much goodies as they could get--then go home to live a life of ease among their hungry, down trodden community. Not one day goes by that I don't hear a co-worker from Asia talking about the time they have left here before they can go HOME and live like a king. People flooding us from the south are no different. Drugs are lucrative, much easier way to make money then getting a --gasp, JOB. Gangs are taking over the youth of these illegal's. The Asian gangs don't get much press, even the Russian mafia in New York and other communities are not as reported on as much as the Latinos. Sorry to say, isn't it time to legalize drugs ???? Tax them, DR RX needed, take the money out of the politicians pockets, stop police graft, prohibition does not work. When my family came to this land, they were every bit as barbaric as the aborigines living here. Only by the European technology did we build this country. Here it is 300+ years later, human nature has not changed one little bit. I feel like I am standing on the shore feeling the sand is slipping out from under my feet as the tide rolls in. " Faith of my father, holy faith, I will in bide with thee" regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060113/97c19043/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 13 12:43:41 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 13 12:43:45 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) Two things.... In-Reply-To: <292.3ebacb2.30f93cbf@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Jan 13, 2006 12:26:23 PM Message-ID: <20060113194341.11768.qmail@mall-net.com> >>> 1. America has become an insane despotism. > >> If you think this is despotism, you've not read much about those >> banana republics! Or Libya, or any of the African nations. > > I agree with all you have said, however I cannot help the "pricking in my > thumbs when something wicked this way comes." Noithing's poifect. > So much, way too much is going on that boggles my mind .The, seems to me, > new path America is hurling itself down, utter chaos in the future. America thrives on chaos. Other nations settle down to their own peculiar vices, breed the vices till they become devices. We just keep getting confused, tripping over ourselves, and invent new devices faster, no long breeding cycles required! I attended a lecture on virtual reality. The guy mentioned something called teledildonics as a joke. Within a year, it's in the science fiction stories, and half a year later, we've got teledildonics as a way of, well, having fun with friends or mates at a distance. Now THAT'S PROGRESS!!! (Or some approximation there of. Alternative service providers need not apply. Not all datascreams suitable for children. Your mileage may vary.) As long as the alternative services providers don't unionize, we're ok. > The ACLU is driving me nuts. PETRA on the face of it values animals more > then humans. I like Mike's PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals. People first! Unfortunately, I am a vegetarian due to diet. Otherwise I'd be an occasional carnivore like the rest of us. > We lower our standards so just about anyone can become a teacher, police or > fireman. All those who can't be anything better! But we got to find jobs for these people. > Now, our right to own our own land is at stake, anyone with money can force > you to sell to them at a price you cannot contest. This is the one point that > scares the shit out of me. It's not that easy... and legislation is being worked on... > We have this Judge that gave a man 60 days in jail for molesting a child at > age of 2 until they turned 6. The Judge noted he no longer believes in > PUNISHMENT. -- I suggest a good horse whipping for that Judge. I wonder how many Nah, that's cruel and unusual punishment! The Firing Squad has good historical precedent as not being unusual. Unfortunately, Lynching is a little passe at the moment; but that may change if we bring it back. > Our illegal aliens are given Free college admissions, drivers licensees, can > BUY and OWN American land, and thumb their noses at the people, like your > parents that came here, going through all the paper work, and hard ships to > become legal. Um, well... which is better, an illegal alien criminal or an illegal alien do-gooder? Well, maybe the do-gooders are bad enough as it is. Maybe we should leave bad enough alone so we don't get more badder. As I said, unfortunately, lynching is a little passe. I say we be liberal about heaving them over the wall. Literally. But that's not liberal anymore. > When your folks came here, did they get to call an ambulance because they > had a head ache? And not pay??? Did they get Free legal assistance ?? Were YOU > and siblings given free college educations???? Did anyone in your family > break the law but was not arrested??? I don't know. Dad did everything he could to make this country a better place. He could have had a lot of other work that paid better, but he chose to dedicate his life to an aspect of the defense industry, because we knew what was on the other side -- our dead relatives and dead friends! Shot, tortured to death during the war, others starved and frozen to death in Siberia. For their memories, my father did anything he could to buttress the bulwarks of freedom. I've seen the same dedication in other escapees from the netherworld. The tears in the eyes of a friend holding up a piece of metal his machine shop produced for American Fighter Jets. I cried with him, my smile so painful, knowing we were helping freedom. We didn't matter. Freedom mattered!!! It still does. I can't help but cry when I remember that moment. You can't understand that till you've read how your own flesh and blood died in Siberia. Of the tale of a Prince who, given the choice of life in the Russian court, marched in chains with his top people to die in Siberia. Freedom is Everything! Without it, life itself becomes a twisted, ugly lie. And as I saw, so many of the people. > You cannot even begin to compare what's going on in today's world with what > your family went through. America was build for people like YOU'RE family, > people who had sponsors, a community waiting to accept them.,guide them. For and by. But guide dad??? Are you kidding??? I remember the Jehovah's Witless that was sent to convert him. All dad did, was ask questions. The rest of the Witlesses soon shunned that guy because they couldn't stand that ugly thing that the questions enticed them to do -- THINK! Dell and Hamnation!!! We know the meaning of freedom, or perhaps the lack there of. And with that, much of what is in the religious teachings of others pales, becomes exposed as ways of controlling people; rather than taking up the Spirit our Creator gave us. I am reminded of the statement "the tao is not the true tao"... yea and verily! It, like so much in our bubble, is mere cords used to bind the spirit that it not disturb the sleep of others. That is another aspect of being a Mad Scientist. Our spirits do not bind easily. We seek the truth, for that is the only journey we care for, the only journey of life that has any meaning or value to us. And only in freedom, may we pursue it. > Your family came here for FREEDOM, not to gobble up as much goodies as they > could get--then go home to live a life of ease among their hungry, down > trodden community. I think they came here just to live. My father tells the story that when they were on the boat coming here, it stopped dead in the middle of the Atlantic, turned around, and steamed half a day back. A cook on another ship had appendicitis. They transfered him to the ship my father was on because there was a better doctor. A mere cook! As my father put it, any other nation, that man would have been allowed to die. Here, hundreds of people were delayed two days to save the life of a mere cook. This is when he says he KNEW beyond any shadow of any doubt, that he was going to the Right country! Before long, he had is mad scientist's laboratory, first in our rental home, then in some rented place when the locals objected, claimed the reception of their twonkies.. er, radio sets, was thrown off by his experiments and repair work. Later, he bought a house and paid for it with his laboratory work building medical and safety equipment of his own invention. Where else but in freedom, can a man do that??? > Not one day goes by that I don't hear a co-worker from Asia talking about > the time they have left here before they can go HOME and live like a king. I don't know about you, but most of those I know were trying like heck to stay here! That is, except for a few Indians who felt that they just couldn't abuse the Americans the way they could their under-classes. They trashed the motel rooms and rental cars, tried to rape the maids. To them, America was a hardship post. Very, Very few Indians I met were that way! But their upper crust may be that way with the lower castes. Equality does strange things to people, it makes them responsible for their own actions, and liable for their own messes. I think it fortunate that I didn't get the job of managing them. It might have changed my views on Humanity. Or maybe not. It might have speeded my understanding of how unique and wonderful this nation really is. > When my family came to this land, they were every bit as barbaric as the > aborigines living here. Only by the European technology did we build this > country. Here it is 300+ years later, human nature has not changed one little > bit. Really? I beg to differ with you. Back in the 1700's and 1800's, death was more common, lynchings were more common, and the general regard for another person's life was a LOT LESS! I read some of the older accounts, and am appalled at their attitude toward the lives of other humans like Indians, Blacks, and Chinese. And then, I married a soviet woman, and saw that their attitude toward life was even worse! And when I proved difficult to bend to her attitudes toward others, I became an other in her mind and she started a persistent campaign to kill me. American Human nature HAS changed! Why? Because WE, the common people have learned to CREATE wealth beyond the dreams of other nations. > I feel like I am standing on the shore feeling the sand is slipping out from Hogwash! The sand is accumulating underneath your feet, not slipping out. Though... maybe you need to look at it from a longer time frame. My soul feels as though it has walked this earth for thousands of years. I cry when I see how great a world we have built life after life. These are the greatest times of all, save those that shall come tomorrow. And all because of a nation of FREEDOM!!! --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 13 16:37:48 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 13 16:37:57 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM Message-ID: <20060113233748.34482.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.geocaching.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060113/5f49ac0d/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 13 16:53:30 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 13 16:53:35 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM In-Reply-To: <20060113233748.34482.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 13, 2006 03:37:48 PM Message-ID: <20060113235330.13358.qmail@mall-net.com> > http://www.geocaching.com The game's been afoot for nearly ten years now, at least from what I recall reading about it many years ago. It started shortly after cheap GPS units came out. Could be interesting for someone like you; but you want to meet people, not just leave notes for people. Many of the National Parks had started to object to this because of the digging people often do looking for the cache. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 13 18:38:10 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 13 18:38:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED. Message-ID: <20060114013810.40350.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED: MANUFACTURING FACILITY: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 1837 E. PACIFIC STREET SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI 65803-4540 PHONE # (417) 865-5100 CORPORATE OFFICES: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 8849 BOND OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS 66214 PHONE # (800) 832-0053 WEBSITE: http://www.lsiinternational.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060113/6d3bb9b7/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 13 22:27:09 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 13 22:27:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED. Message-ID: <20060114052709.11912.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISED:) LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED: MANUFACTURING FACILITY: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 1837 E. PACIFIC STREET SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI 65803-4540 PHONE # (417) 865-5100 CORPORATE OFFICES: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 11529 W. 79TH STREET LENEXA, KANSAS 66214 TOLL FREE PHONE # (800) 832-0053 LOCAL PHONE # (913) 894-4493 WEBSITE: http://www.lsiinternational.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060113/eeb4a09a/attachment.html From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sat Jan 14 05:03:11 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Sat Jan 14 05:04:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SPACE BALLOONS. Message-ID: <20060114.040317.22050.25572@webmail15.lax.untd.com> Thanks for the link. Please note: message attached -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 08:33:30 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Sat Jan 14 08:33:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <20060114120410.688CC3986D@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <20060114153330.4702.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " That is another aspect of being a Mad Scientist. Our spirits do not bind easily. We seek the truth, for that is the only journey we care for, the only journey of life that has any meaning or value to us. And only in freedom, may we pursue it." That is a greeat quote! kudos. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/be97208b/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 14 11:31:20 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 14 11:31:30 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <20060114153330.4702.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j s" at Jan 14, 2006 07:33:30 AM Message-ID: <20060114183120.47799.qmail@mall-net.com> > " That is another aspect of being a Mad Scientist. Our spirits do > not > bind easily. We seek the truth, for that is the only journey we care > for, the only journey of life that has any meaning or value to us. And > only in freedom, may we pursue it." > > That is a greeat quote! kudos. Thankyou. I'm glad someone actually reads my drivel. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 13:39:47 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Sat Jan 14 13:39:50 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: <20060114190002.167F539869@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <20060114203947.46378.qmail@web36114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, I read the stuff and find I'm in afgreement with most everything you say, especially the self reliance and positivity stuff. My "Mad" pursuits are basically limited to the life extension / transhuman kind - usually through chemical/ vitamin / herbal protocols that I self experiment on ( like my current hair regrowth using saw palmetto as a DHT inhibitor ) and other things, like equine supplements etc - but no actual steroid based hormonal manipulation. > " That is another aspect of being a Mad Scientist. Our spirits do > not > bind easily. We seek the truth, for that is the only journey we care > for, the only journey of life that has any meaning or value to us. And > only in freedom, may we pursue it." > > That is a greeat quote! kudos. Thankyou. I'm glad someone actually reads my drivel. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/fa7dc15e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 15:18:04 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 15:18:09 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RETYPED FROM ANOTHER POSTING. Message-ID: <20060114221804.65589.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> RETYPED FROM ANOTHER POSTING: I HAVE TRIED PRESCRIPTION DRUG AFTER PRESCIPTION DRUG, ONLY TO HAVE THEM LET ME DOWN, ONE AFTER ANOTHER..! THE COMMERCIALISM OF PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMM-PLEX HAS A DEATHGRIP STRANGLEHOLD UPON THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, AND EVERYONE OF US NEED TO KNOW THAT FACT..! WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEED A HIGHER AWARENESS OF THE CORRUPTION THAT GOES ON IN THE PHARMACOLOGY CARTEL, AND ITS CORRUPT INFLUENCE ON THE DOCTORS OF MAINSTREAM DOCTORALISM; OTHERWISE WE THE PEOPLE HAVE ZERO HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS STILL GREAT NATION OF OURS: AMERICA..! DO WE ALL RISE UP EQUALLY, AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD? OR DO WE FALL DOWN DIVIDED, AND DIE EN-MASS? IT IS OUR CHOICE..! I BELIEVE THAT WE ALL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE AN EXCELLENT VEGAN FUTURE OF BETTER HEALTH FOR EVERYONE, BUT IT WILL TAKE A MASS SCALE COOPERATIVE WORK EFFORT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US: EQUALLY..! CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/a91c34a3/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Sat Jan 14 16:57:33 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Sat Jan 14 16:57:39 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] looking for stardust Message-ID: <032a01c61966$4b248140$6401a8c0@mikey> In the early hours of tomorrow morning the Stardust capsule returns to Earth from its six-year mission to comet Wild 2. It has collected a very few interstellar and cometary dust particles in its trek. See: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html . Now the real work begins. A needle is easier to find in a haystack than these particles of dust in Stardust's aerogel collectors. But you can help, and if you find a dust particle, your name will be listed as co-author in the journal article. Go here to sign up: http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/. Happy stardust hunting! -MB From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 18:09:33 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 18:09:46 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM In-Reply-To: <20060113235330.13358.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060115010933.55070.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > http://www.geocaching.com The game's been afoot for nearly ten years now, at least from what I recall reading about many years ago. It started shortly after cheap GPS units came out. Could be interesting for someone like you; but you want to meet people, not just leave notes for people. YEAH; I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES INVOLVED IN THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, AND HOW IT AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER, AS A GENERALIZED WHOLE. MY INTEREST IS AFFILIATED WITH MY G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT I HAVE WORKED SO GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED FURIOUSLY ON; WITH SO MUCH GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS. Many of the National Parks had started to object to this because of the digging people often do looking for the cache. I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, THAT REDBUD VALLEY; THE PLACE THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT TO YOU IN THE PAST, (ONE OF THE FEW PLACES HERE IN SLUMTOWN WHERE PEACE AND QUIET AND THE ABILITY TO BREATHE ARE STILL EXISTANT), IS A PLACE THAT IS USED FOR GEOCACHING. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/98800b07/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 18:11:42 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 18:11:57 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM In-Reply-To: <20060113235330.13358.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060115011142.61193.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > http://www.geocaching.com The game's been afoot for nearly ten years now, at least from what I recall reading about many years ago. It started shortly after cheap GPS units came out. Could be interesting for someone like you; but you want to meet people, not just leave notes for people. YEAH; I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES INVOLVED IN THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, AND HOW IT AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER, AS A GENERALIZED WHOLE. MY INTEREST IS AFFILIATED WITH MY G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT I HAVE WORKED SO GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED FURIOUSLY ON; WITH SO MUCH GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS. Many of the National Parks had started to object to this because of the digging people often do looking for the cache. I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, THAT REDBUD VALLEY; THE PLACE THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT TO YOU IN THE PAST, (ONE OF THE FEW PLACES HERE IN SLUMTOWN WHERE PEACE AND QUIET AND THE ABILITY TO BREATHE ARE STILL EXISTANT), IS A PLACE THAT IS USED FOR GEOCACHING. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/b80a430a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 18:46:54 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 18:47:07 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRIVATE SPACESHIPS. Message-ID: <20060115014654.49370.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> PRIVATE SPACESHIPS: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5085384 http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0616/p08s03-comv.html http://www.space.com/news/beyond_spaceshipone_041006.html http://michaelbelfiore.com/blog/2005/08/nasa-to-hire-private-spaceships.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/051007_xprize_cup_update.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236907/posts --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/d4f569ef/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 14 18:48:03 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 14 18:48:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] GEOCACHING.COM In-Reply-To: <20060115010933.55070.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 14, 2006 05:09:33 PM Message-ID: <20060115014803.28199.qmail@mall-net.com> > MY INTEREST IS AFFILIATED WITH MY G.P.S. SYNCHRONOUS > TALKING CLOCK PROJECT THAT I HAVE WORKED SO GOD > DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED FURIOUSLY ON; WITH SO MUCH > GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS. I never could understand why the clock should receive GPS signals. You're not going to be able to tell the time zone anyway. > Many of the National Parks had started to object to this because of > the digging people often do looking for the cache. > > I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, THAT REDBUD VALLEY; THE > PLACE THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT TO YOU IN THE PAST, (ONE OF > THE FEW PLACES HERE IN SLUMTOWN WHERE PEACE AND > QUIET AND THE ABILITY TO BREATHE ARE STILL EXISTANT), IS A > PLACE THAT IS USED FOR GEOCACHING. Geocaching is everywhere. Parks in the cities, flowerpots, curb areas, all have been used by geocachers in various places. Geocaching was done differently before GPS systems, but it does predate GPS, as I recall reading about it in the late 60's, early 70's. The big change was not so much the cheap GPS units, nor the mailing lists of the early 90's; as the usenet and later the web and search engine combo allowing people to communicate to completely unknown people where various caches are. TAG is the Tulsa Area Geocacher group. They are on the web. Go look them up in Google. Tulsa Geocache. You can get a cheap GPS unit for maybe $100 - $150. I have a little Garmin unit. It was great till they screwed with the accuracy. I use to use it driving this dirt road in the fog, the bread crumb trail giving me warning of turns, etc. I'd still look for the ground! It was only some 8 - 16 feet accurate; but at least I knew what was coming u in the pea soup we get u here. No more! I've seen circles I didn't drive, zig-zags I didn't drive, speeds I couldn't have hit! It's to keep the danged errorists from noting exactly where things are, and telling other things where to deliver their "religious missives." As to learning how it all works, geocachers haven't a clue! Some old guy notes his position when he buries an old shoe, then posts it. Some young kid looks up the position and finds it. leaving a note. What fun is that? Neither of them built the unit, know anything about how it works, etc. It's like the computer revolution has become. Go down to a store and buy a gigahertz supercomputer for $300. No PhD required. No government clearances. No days spent soldering chips like I did, nothing. And no front panel! I use to single-step through parts of my programs, look for patterns in the lights, detect blown stacks, etc. That was real computing! Now??? this is computing when someone puts a picture up on the screen??? That's TV, not computing! And soon, there won't be any different between TV and computers. Not to mention moronsloth taking up half the computer trying to run windoze, and constantly swapping your work out to the hard drive so it can do it's pitiful emulation of X-windows. Gone are the nights hunched over an X-Y scope, watching a version of Conway's LIFE program run. Now that was real computing! umpteen thousand dollars of digital computer plinking dots on a screen around midnight. (Actually, what's gone is the exclusive club we use to belong to. Computing is more alive than ever! It's just that everyone is doing it, not just guys who can convince some university professor to let them do some Important Research! Uh huh. Like watch dots on an oscilloscope late one night, like J. S. let me do so long, long ago on a PDP-8 at the University of Connecticut. I wonder where J.S., P.B., and A.F. are now.) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 18:52:10 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 18:52:14 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRIVATE SPACESHIPS. Message-ID: <20060115015210.74190.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> PRIVATE SPACESHIPS: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5085384 http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0616/p08s03-comv.html http://www.space.com/news/beyond_spaceshipone_041006.html http://michaelbelfiore.com/blog/2005/08/nasa-to-hire-private-spaceships.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/051007_xprize_cup_update.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236907/posts --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/f926da57/attachment.html From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 19:09:41 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Sat Jan 14 19:09:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20060115014708.EE0523986E@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <20060115020941.29923.qmail@web36109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >I HAVE TRIED PRESCRIPTION DRUG AFTER >PRESCIPTION DRUG, ONLY TO HAVE THEM >LET ME DOWN, ONE AFTER ANOTHER..! Which ones have you used and what is the desired outcome/result that you are looking for? Perhaps your issue is nutritional and the drugs won't affect it. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/3b259033/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 20:19:49 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 20:19:53 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20060115020941.29923.qmail@web36109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060115031949.851.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> j s < creolescience@yahoo.com > wrote: >I HAVE TRIED PRESCRIPTION DRUG AFTER >PRESCIPTION DRUG, ONLY TO HAVE THEM >LET ME DOWN, ONE AFTER ANOTHER..! Which ones have you used and what is the desired outcome/result that you are looking for? ZYPREXA, RISPERDOL, DEPOKOTE, HALDOL, WELBUTRIN, KLONOPIN, KLONODINE, ZOLOFT, AND MANY OTHERS THAT HAVE NOT WORKED FOR PERMANENT ENDS. SERENITY IS THE PERMANENT END THAT I NEED TO FIND AND GET..! Perhaps your issue is nutritional and the drugs won't affect it. YEAH; NUTRICIAN IS A LARGE PART OF IT. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/6c0dece2/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 20:23:01 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 14 20:23:26 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MILITARY. Message-ID: <20060115032301.94876.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> THE MILITARY MUST BE SPYING ON ME. SOME OF MY E-MAILS ARE NOT GOING THROUGH, TO THE MAD SCIENTISTS POSTINGS. I THINK I MIGHT SEE THE REASON WHY FOR SOME E-MAIL POSTINGS. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060114/73d1eabf/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 14 20:47:06 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 14 20:47:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE MILITARY. In-Reply-To: <20060115032301.94876.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 14, 2006 07:23:01 PM Message-ID: <20060115034706.28087.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE MILITARY MUST BE SPYING ON > ME. > SOME OF MY E-MAILS ARE NOT > GOING THROUGH, TO THE > MAD SCIENTISTS POSTINGS. The first rule of spying, is not to be noticed!!! Thus, a spy would not be tampering with your posts to Mad Scientists. It would be a saboteur. (Go throw a shoe at him! That's what sabot means -- a shoe. Tank shells are also called sabots, shoes.) But you don't rate a personal saboteur. At best, you have an equal opportunity gremlin munching on a few packets here or there, just happening to hit the header packet of an email. Statistically, there are far more likely reasons than spying, sabotage, etc. It's called "Internet Weather", the tendency of the internet to lose things. > I THINK I MIGHT SEE THE REASON > WHY FOR SOME E-MAIL POSTINGS. And we've seen two copies of some of these posts of yours, suggesting that you are either sending them twice, or something else is wrong. In the past, I've been one of the monitors of some mailing lists, noting when posts are lost. One of the lists, we had to move four times before we found a host that didn't lose posts near the end of the list. I've also done some work for a router company, and a few other things on the net, so I've seen these things first hand. It is not uncommon. When a node in the net, a router, gets too many packets to route, it just drops them. It's queue space is full, so it can't do anything but drop them. Most routers are large enough for the intended purpose, but sometimes too much traffic hits a node, and things get lost. If the header record gets through, the application on the other end may realize it's missing a few packets, and ask the sender to resend. If the header record is lost... to bad! The receiver does not know to ask for the missing packets. So relax. It's just too much spam bumping your e-mail, or your return copy, off the list. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 15 19:38:13 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 15 19:38:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRIVATE SPACESHIPS. Message-ID: <20060116023813.81236.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> PRIVATE SPACESHIPS: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5085384 http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0616/p08s03-comv.html http://www.space.com/news/beyond_spaceshipone_041006.html http://michaelbelfiore.com/blog/2005/08/nasa-to-hire-private-spaceships.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/051007_xprize_cup_update.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236907/posts --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060115/72c01441/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 09:42:47 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 09:43:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] PRIVATE SPACESHIPS. Message-ID: <20060116164247.10368.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> PRIVATE SPACESHIPS: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5085384 http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0616/p08s03-comv.html http://www.space.com/news/beyond_spaceshipone_041006.html http://michaelbelfiore.com/blog/2005/08/nasa-to-hire-private-spaceships.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/051007_xprize_cup_update.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236907/posts --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/ac597dd9/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 09:45:19 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 09:45:27 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). Message-ID: <20060116164519.48984.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/5e870e8a/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 10:07:03 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:07:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES; OMEGA; AND TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR. Message-ID: <20060116170704.91259.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES: http://www.quakefinder.com/what_is_elf.htm http://www.quakefinder.com/fppt/LowFreqAn.html http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/cmitas/ps-pdf/proposal.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/~grr/liens/deform2.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://goldennumber.net/energy.htm OMEGA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega http://www.jproc.ca/hyperbolic/omega.html http://tycho.usno.navy,mil/gps.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/omega.html TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/Tesla/Oscillator.htm http://www.svpvril.com/CATALOG/PIC1298.html http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamosc.htm http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=478 http://www.brassunicorn.com/browseproducts/Nikola-Tesla's-Earthquake-Machine.HTML --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/1ec758f5/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 10:17:27 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:17:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES; OMEGA; AND TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR. Message-ID: <20060116171727.42639.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES: http://www.quakefinder.com/what_is_elf.htm http://www.quakefinder.com/fppt/LowFreqAn.html http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/cmitas/ps-pdf/proposal.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/~grr/liens/deform2.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://goldennumber.net/energy.htm OMEGA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega http://www.jproc.ca/hyperbolic/omega.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gps.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/omega.html TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/Tesla/Oscillator.html http://www.svpvril.com/CATALOG/PIC1298.html http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamosc.html http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=478 http://www.brassunicorn.com/browseproducts/Nikola-Tesla's-Earthquake-Machine.HTML --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/760a6046/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 16 10:22:45 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:23:05 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060116164519.48984.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 16, 2006 08:45:19 AM Message-ID: <20060116172245.71159.qmail@mall-net.com> > SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). What is the basis of your supposition? Last night I was, for some moments, almost certain the thief had been here again. I could not find an object that I needed, one that could be theft prone. I've already had someone steal some construction type equipment out here. After some hours wracking my brains as to what I might have done with it, I saw it in plain sight. No thief. You've sent us several copies of the private spaceships URLs over the past few days. Are not not receiving those copies? Is that why you suspect your e-mails are being intercepted? -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 10:31:37 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:31:42 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060116172245.71159.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060116173137.48036.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). What is the basis of your supposition? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THEM ON MY END; WHY??? Last night I was, for some moments, almost certain the thief had been here again. I could not find an object that I needed, one that could be theft prone. I've already had someone steal some construction type equipment out here. After some hours wracking my brains as to what I might have done with it, I saw it in plain sight. No thief. You've sent us several copies of the private spaceships URLs over the past few days. Are you not not receiving those copies? Is that why you suspect your e-mails are being intercepted? YES..! I HAVE NOT RECIEVED THEM ON MY SIDE? I DON'T KNOW THE REASON/S WHY. IS THERE MILITARY SECURITY REASONS INVOLVED IN THE SUBJECT, TO THE POINT OF THOSE E-MAILS NOT BEING RECEIVED HERE ON MY END? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/76ff78ba/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 16 10:48:37 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:48:41 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060116173137.48036.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 16, 2006 09:31:37 AM Message-ID: <20060116174837.87382.qmail@mall-net.com> > > SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). > > What is the basis of your supposition? > > I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THEM ON MY END; WHY??? > > You've sent us several copies of the private spaceships URLs over > the past few days. > > Are you not not receiving those copies? Is that why you suspect your > e-mails are being intercepted? > > YES..! > > I HAVE NOT RECIEVED THEM ON MY SIDE? > > I DON'T KNOW THE REASON/S WHY. I have noticed that whenever you CC anyone on a Mad Scientists mailing, you don't get a copy. > IS THERE MILITARY SECURITY REASONS INVOLVED IN > THE SUBJECT, TO THE POINT OF THOSE E-MAILS NOT > BEING RECEIVED HERE ON MY END? Buggy software, mis-configured mail handlers, etc. Clyde, you don't warrant military consideration! You don't even warrant national security consideration! The nut cases out there touting chem trails, UFO takeovers and all that, Way, WAY crazier than anything you or I might dream up on a really screwy night, don't warrant military attention. So why should you??? I was followed quite a bit at the University. We finally found out why. Fraternity initiations sometimes had initiates follow specific people. I also had what appeared to some, a shoulder holster, as we later found out -- it was a camera under my sportscoat, with the strap running across the front. The chit-chat a friend picked up was that I had been designated the FBI / CIA agent on campus. "You know, the guy with the shoulder holster. You can see the strap across his shirt." Yea, right, like the CIA was going to hire a reclusive, geeky 18 year old with coke bottle lenses who could barely read the lecture hall blackboards! And equip him with a gun on campus??? Hogwash!!! No one would be that stupid! They'd hire a realy outgoing 25 year old who looked underage, and still had pimples. And that certainly wasn't me! -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 11:01:51 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 11:01:56 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060116174837.87382.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060116180152.60062.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: I have noticed that whenever you CC anyone on a Mad Scientists mailing, you don't get a copy. WHY WOULD THAT BE? > IS THERE MILITARY SECURITY REASONS INVOLVED IN > THE SUBJECT, TO THE POINT OF THOSE E-MAILS NOT > BEING RECEIVED HERE ON MY END? Buggy software, mis-configured mail handlers, etc. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY..! Clyde, you don't warrant military consideration! You don't even warrant national security consideration! YES I HAVE..! FOR PLAYING THE GODDAMNED DEVIL'S ADVOCACY FOR THOSE FUCKING LIBERAL CHRISTIANS OUT THERE..! I NOW ABSOLUTELY REJECT THAT FUCKING GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED SHIT..! BECAUSE THEY HAVE TRIED TO FUCKING ENTRAP ME IN ALL OF THEIR FUCKING SHIT..! NOW I HAVE HATRED FOR MY FAMILY; HATRED FOR MY NEIGHBORS; HATRED FOR GOD; HATRED FOR THE DEVIL; HATRED FOR THE GOVERNMENT; HATRED FOR TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT MILITARY MEDIA; HATRED FOR RELIGION; ETC.... The nut cases out there touting chem trails, UFO takeovers and all that, Way, WAY crazier than anything you or I might dream up on a really screwy night, don't warrant military attention. YES. So why should you??? AS EXPLAINED ABOVE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/53ee0c4e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 11:09:06 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 11:09:25 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES; OMEGA; AND TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR. Message-ID: <20060116180907.49569.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISED) LOW FREQUENCY ENERGY ANOMALIES: http://www.quakefinder.com/what_is_elf.htm http://www.quakefinder.com/fppt/LowFreqAn.htm http://www.quakefinder.com/fppt/TechniquesIntro-2.html http://www.quakefinder.com/News2005/AnticipatingEarthquakes-05.pdf#search'low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/cmitas/ps-pdf/proposal.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/~grr/liens/deform2.pdf#search='low%20frequency%20energy%20anomalies.' http://goldennumber.net/energy.htm OMEGA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega http://www.jproc.ca/hyperbolic/omega.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gps.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/omega.html TESLA'S EARTHQUAKE OSCILLATOR: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/Tesla/Oscillator.html http://www.svpvril.com/CATALOG/PIC1298.html http://www.rexresearch.com/teslamos/tmosc.htm http://members.boardhost.com/tesla/msg/1983.html http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=478 http://www.brassunicorn.com/browseproducts/Nikola-Tesla's-Earthquake-Machine.HTML --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/b5259d1d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 12:56:41 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 12:56:51 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FREEDOM FIGHTERS LYRICS; BY: P.O.D. Message-ID: <20060116195641.84364.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> FREEDOM FIGHTERS LYRICS; BY: P.O.D. TODAY I HEARD WHAT THEM PEOPLE SAY. THEM WANT TO LIVE FREE GREEDILY, WITH EVERYONE TO PAY. YOU PLAY UNDER THE SUN WHILE OTHERS FIGHT THE SKIES OF GREY. BUT I SAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THIS WAY, THEN WHY STAY? GO AWAY. (REPEATING OF CHORUS WORDS:) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. IGNITE JAH. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. SHINE JAH. LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) IGINITE JAH. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) SHINE JAH. TODAY I HEARD WHAT WHAT THEM PEOPLE SAY. THEM SAY THE MAN CAME IN, AND HE TOOK OUR CHOICE AWAY. YOU PORTRAY SELFISHNESS AND HATE, WHILE SOME PREPARE TO DIE TODAY. I SAY, YOU'LL FADE AWAY. APPRECIATE LIFE, AND LIBERATE. (REPEATING OF CHORUS WORDS:) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. IGNITE JAH. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. SHINE JAH. LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) IGNITE JAH. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) SHINE JAH. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN PEACE; AND YOU MUST FIGHT, FOR WHAT YOU KEEP. IF WHAT YOU KEEP, HOLDS TRUTH INSIDE; STAND UP DEFEND. LAY DOWN AND DIE. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN PEACE. YOU MUST FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU KEEP. IF WHAT YOU KEEP HOLDS TRUTH INSIDE; STAND UP DEFEND, OR LAY DOWN AND DIE. (REPEATING OF CHORUS WORDS:) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. IGNITE JAH. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. SHINE JAH. LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE. FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) IGNITE JAH. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE, DIE FREE.) FREEDOM FIGHTERS. (LIVE FREE. BE FREE. DIE FREE.) SHINE JAH. LIVE FREE..! BE FREE..! JAH SAY: LIVE FREE..! JAH SAY: DIE FREE..! LIVE FREE; JAH SAY: DIE FREE. LIVE FREE; JAH SAY: BE FREE..! I CANNOT LIVE FREE..! I CANNOT DIE FREE..! STAND UP DEFEND, OR LAY DOWN AND DIE. STAND UP DEFEND, OR LAY DOWN AND DIE. STAND UP DEFEND, OR LAY DOWN AND DIE. STAND UP DEFEND, OR LAY DOWN AND DIE. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/26c1cb2e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 13:16:03 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 13:16:09 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Heaven Nine Eleven. By, Tesla (the band). Message-ID: <20060116201603.62403.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Song: HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN. Band: Tesla (the band). Lyrics by: Hannon. Tell me why there's so much pain today. Cause taking lives is for their gain, or so they say. I can't believe it but they feel this way. And that's the way of the world. Tell me why it takes a tragedy to see. To wake us up, and bring us down to our knees. All the people suffering with disease. And that's the way, that's the way, that's the weight of the world. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the sun burn's the ground, there's gotta be another way. Is our God looking down, and does he feel everybody's pain. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. Teach the children what it means to love. And show them why that we can never give enough. Let's work together, we can rise above. And change the ways, change the ways, change the ways of the world. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the sky turns to brown, there's gotta be another way. Is our God looking down, and does he feel everybody's pain. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the sun burn's the ground, there's gotta be another way. Is our God looking down, and does he feel everybody's pain. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. As the sky turns to brown, there's gotta be another way. Is our God looking down, and does he feel everybody's pain. As the world crashes down, heaven's looking better everyday. Heaven's looking better now. Heaven's looking better now. Heaven's looking better now. Heaven's looking better. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/cda6348d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 13:18:42 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 16 13:18:48 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RADIOACTIVITY (FINAL COPY..!). Message-ID: <20060116201842.62904.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> (THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE I GUESS; WITH BILLIONS OF D.J.S WORLDWIDE PERFORMING THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF IT..!) CLYDE Song: Radioactivity; (Cover version) Original song, by: Ralf Huetter, and Florian Schneider; (Kraftwerk). Lyrical cover, by: Clyde Lofton. RADIOACTIVITY: (Spoken / with Morse Code:) Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... It's about Alpha radioactivity vs. Omega radioactivity. Stop nuclear radioactivity. Harmful high frequency negative energy. Detrimental to humanity. Destructor of unity. Anti nuclear radioactivity. Is in the air for you and me. Population unification, rejuvenation, and regeneration. But stop nuclear radioactivity. Harmful high frequency negative energy. Detrimental to biology. Destructor of unity. Not all radioactivity is in the air for you and me. Stop nuclear radioactivity. Nuclear ionization, and mutation. Mass degenerated population. Stop nuclear radioactivity. It isn't in the air for you and me. Nuclear radioactivity. Nuclear radio-ation. Mass divided population. Destructor of unity. Destructor of unity. Destructor of unity. Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... Stop nuclear radioactivity. ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---... (Etc....) (Repeat S.O.S. Morse Code, into song fade out.) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <20060116203309.57506.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> CHILD ABUSE AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT: I WAS ABUSED AS A CHILD; AND SO I KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE ABUSED. THIS IS A VERY TOUGH SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT, DUE TO THE COMPLEXITIES INVOLVED IN THE DUE PROCESS OF JUSTICE / LAW ENFORCEMENT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WAS RAISED IN A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN HOUSEHOLD; I HAVE FEELINGS OF BOTH MERCY AND HATRED WITHIN MYSELF, TOWARD BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE. IN A SONG, BY A BAND CALLED PANTERA; PART OF THE SONG LYRICS READ THAT MAN SHOULD HAVE DEATH DOWN TO A SCIENCE; AND INDEED I HAVE NOW LEARNED OF HOW DEATH CAN BE BROUGHT DOWN TO A SCIENCE, THROUGH A PERSONAL RESEARCH PROJECT OF MINE, SHARED BY A FRIEND. AND SO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE A CHOICE BEFORE US; TO SERVE PEACEFUL JUSTICE EQUALLY FOR EVERYONE, OR FACE A HORRIFIC FUTURE FOR ALL OF US EQUALLY, IN CIVIL WAR..! THE SUBJECT IS CALLED: ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT. ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT CAN BE USED TO INDUCE PEACEFUL BRAIN DEATH INTO HARDENED CRIMINALS; THOSE OF WHO MOST PEOPLE OF CONSCIENCE FEEL MIXED EMOTIONS TOWARD. SOME PEOPLE OF WHO FEEL FEELINGS OF MERCY TOWARD; AND OTHERS OF WHO FEEL TOTAL FEELING OF ANIMOSITY AND HATRED TOWARD; HARDENED CRIMINALS WHO HAVE CARRIED OUT HORRENDOUS CRIMES AGAINST BOTH YOUTH, AND ADULTS. I HOPE THIS MAKES A STRONG AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE BETTERMENT OF THE FUTURE OF AMERICA. I AM ANGRILY FERVENTLY PRAYING FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE IN THIS NOW SUPER DIVIDED AND RUINED COUNTRY OF AMERICA..! CLYDE LOFTON JR. TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060116/1f733137/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 16 19:17:06 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 16 19:17:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060116180152.60062.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 16, 2006 10:01:51 AM Message-ID: <20060117021706.2374.qmail@mall-net.com> > I have noticed that whenever you CC anyone on a Mad Scientists > mailing, you don't get a copy. > > WHY WOULD THAT BE? It's just the way some mail servers are configured. This is not the only one that is set up that way. > > IS THERE MILITARY SECURITY REASONS INVOLVED IN > > THE SUBJECT, TO THE POINT OF THOSE E-MAILS NOT > > BEING RECEIVED HERE ON MY END? > > Buggy software, mis-configured mail handlers, etc. > > I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY..! > > Clyde, you don't warrant military consideration! You don't even > warrant national security consideration! > > YES I HAVE..! > FOR PLAYING THE GODDAMNED DEVIL'S ADVOCACY FOR THOSE FUCKING LIBERAL CHRISTIANS OUT THERE..! > I NOW ABSOLUTELY REJECT THAT FUCKING GODDAMNED AND > MANDAMNED SHIT..! Clyde, if you are not threatenting bodily injury to government workers, or destruction of government property, it doesn't count! You've not muslim, weren't born outside the USA, your father, if he worked where you said, probably had some level of clearance, etc. So yea, they probably have a dossier that mentions you in passing. And you know what it says? Essentially that you're not a problem. (If they even bothered to keep it!) I know it's deflating to your ego, but basically, you're not a person of interest to the great powers of this world. And neither am I anymore. It's been ten years since I did anything significant for NASA, or walked into a military contractor's property or military base; over 25 since I visited the shuttle and space station project simulators at NASA and was a NASA contractor. Over twenty years since I attended a security class at another large government contractor. I don't count anymore! And they would have been a lot more interested in my erstwhile business partner's background at that point than mine! _I_ should have been a lot more interested in my partner's background!!! Talked about getting ripped off, she stole a fortune 500 client out from under me, used the company card to fly halfway across the country, etc. for personal reasons, etc. We could have made a federal case of it. No one cares anymore, Clyde. They don't follow me around anymore. And if they don't follow me around, you sure don't merit anyone rifling trough your e-mails, etc. Though they migh occasionally monitor energy levels of your radio station; but I doubt they have the manpower for that, either! And if you did merit such, Clyde, you'd not know anyone looked at your e-mails or went through your desk! The spooks are well trained! If you notice anything amis, it's someone not competent enough to be a spook! I never worked as one, but like I said, I did attend a security class and read a lot of actual accounts, not the romantic fiction, which is utter crap! The fictional guys wouldn't last more than a day or two on a real mission without either blowing the job or getting blown away. In fact, the security class was mostly stuff I'd already read a lot about, so very little was new to me. Do you know what causes you to feel like you are being watched, are important enough to be watched? TENSION! Adrenaline! Excess adrenaline will make you feel not just important, but paranoid. Adrenachromes, the spent adrenaline, are mildly halucinogenic agents. You need to relax! You need to go out for a good long hard walk with a little jogging. Every night or two. That burns off the adrenaline, helps clear your arteries, etc. My guess is that if you cut back on meats, especially beef, you might improve. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 05:53:43 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 05:53:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060117021706.2374.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060117125343.96253.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I have noticed that whenever you CC anyone on a Mad Scientists > mailing, you don't get a copy. > > WHY WOULD THAT BE? It's just the way some mail servers are configured. This is not the only one that is set up that way. WHAT DOES CC MEAN? I USUALLY DO GET A COPY OF THE MAD SCIENTISTS MAILING, BUT AS OF LATELY, I HAVEN'T. WHY WOULD THAT BE? Clyde, if you are not threatenting bodily injury to government workers, or destruction of government property, it doesn't count NO THREATS. BUT MY LIFE HAS BEEN FULL OF SO MUCH CONTROVERSY WHICH HAS STIRRED UP A LOT OF SUSPICION FOR MYSELF I THINK..! I know it's deflating to your ego, but basically, you're not a person of interest to the great powers of this world. NO; IT ISN'T DEFLATING TO MY EGO. Though they might occasionally monitor energy levels of your radio station; but I doubt they have the manpower for that, either! NO; THOUGH I DO HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE; THOUGH I CANNOT PROVE; THAT THE F.C.C. ; THE N.S.A. ; AND PERHAPS OTHER GOVT. COOPERATIONS; (THE F.B.I. AND THE C.I.A.) HAVE MOVED IN NEXT DOOR; WITH SURVEILLANCE AND ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONIC HARRASSMENT, WITH HELP FROM MY NEIGHBORS. And if you did merit such, Clyde, you'd not know anyone looked at your e-mails or went through your desk! YEAH; I AGREE; BUT I DO KNOW THAT MY FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT HAS BEEN VIOLATED..! The spooks are well trained! YES. If you notice anything amis, it's someone not competent enough to be a PROBABLY THE COX CABLE FOLKS; IN COOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT. REASON ENOUGH, FOR THE LITTLE POMERANIAN DOG TO URINATE AND DEFOCATE ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR; WHILE I HAD BEEN GONE. Do you know what causes you to feel like you are being watched, or are important enough to be watched? YES; I HAVE PUT MYSELF INTO THE PUBLIC EYE, WITH MY L.P.F.M. STATION; AND SINCE I HAVE DONE IT; I DO NOT LIKE IT. BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AS FUN AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT IT IS..! ALL OF THE MAINSTREAM RADIO MEDIA OUTLETS HERE IN TULSA KNOW ABOUT ME NOW. TENSION! YES..! Adrenaline! YES..! Excess adrenaline will make you feel not just important, but paranoid. PARANOID; AND ALSO HAVING A TREMENDOUS FEAR OF FAILURE. Adrenachromes, the spent adrenaline, are mildly hallucinogenic agents. ADRENACHROMES. ARE THERE ANY SUPPLEMENTS THAT SUPPRESS, AND OR NEUTRALIZE ADRENACHROMES THAT YOU MAY KNOW OF? You need to relax! DAMNED STRAIGHT I NEED TO RELAX..! I NEED TO FIND OUT SPECIFICALLY HOW THE MEDIA MILITARY GOVERNMENT GET THEIR MEDIA MILITARY INTELLIGENCE..! (IS IT ALL THROUGH THE ASSOCIATED PRESS; OR ARE THERE SEVERAL, OR MANY OTHER SOURCES SIMULATANEOUSLY..?) IS IT THROUGH A COOPERATIVE EFFORT, WITH GOVT. AND MEDIA USING THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, TELEPHONE TAPS, AND THE TELEPHONE AND COAXIAL CABLE TELEVISION / INTERNET NETWORKS..? You need to go out for a good long hard walk with a little jogging. Every night or two. That burns off the adrenaline, helps clear your arteries, etc. YES; I CAN DO THAT..! ONE OF THE FLOOD RETENTION PONDS AROUND HERE WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO WALK, ON THE WALKING TRACK. My guess is that if you cut back on meats, especially beef, you might improve. I DON'T EAT BEEF ANYMORE; AT LEAST WHEN I CAN HELP IT. I DO EAT CHICKEN AND TURKEY AND FISH THOUGH. I DO TRY TO EAT MORE TURKEY AND FISH NOW THOUGH, THAN CHICKEN. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/badd2ee7/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 06:00:25 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 06:00:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICAN FLAG TOPIC WEBLINKS..! Message-ID: <20060117130025.34418.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> AMERICAN FLAG TOPIC WEBLINKS..! http://www.gettysburgflag.com/american_flag.htm http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/flags/ http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/flags/fedflag.shtml http://www.flagstuff.com http://register.freeze.com/(pf3yunezpuxsbu45cfrtxh45)/index.aspx?s=flag&f=529051&fn=gifmania http://www.clareco.net/Vetrans/flag.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States http://www.americanflagstore.com/etiquette/etiquette.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/07b7e730/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 06:07:56 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 06:08:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EMINEM: WHITE AMERICA LYRICS..! Message-ID: <20060117130756.41221.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> EMINEM: WHITE AMERICA LYRICS: http://www.loglar.com/song.php?id=10618 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/e67ee942/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 06:41:21 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 06:41:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] STAND UP FOR AMERICA..! Message-ID: <20060117134122.43429.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> STAND UP FOR AMERICA..! http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/lumpy/329/sufa.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/cfa91080/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 06:42:06 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 06:42:14 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TESLA: FREEDOM SLAVES LYRICS. Message-ID: <20060117134206.78893.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> TESLA: FREEDOM SLAVES LYRICS: http://www.music-lyrics-spy.com/artist/Tesla-lyrics/Freedom-Slaves-lyrics.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/70bc7cca/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 06:50:42 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 06:51:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TO ALL BASTARDS AND BITCHES..! Message-ID: <20060117135042.79378.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> TO ALL BASTARDS AND BITCHES: STAND UP FOR AMERICA..! DEFEND AMERICA..! REPAIR THIS FUCKED UP COUNTRY..! I'VE GIVEN SOLUTIONS..! I'VE SHARED SOLUTIONS..! NOW HELP TO PUT THEM TO USE..! CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/248120a4/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 09:32:48 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 09:33:01 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) TO ALL BASTARDS AND BITCHES..! Message-ID: <20060117163248.42790.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: TO ALL BASTARDS AND BITCHES: AMERICAN POLITICS HAS BECOME ASS VERSUS ASS..! STAND UP FOR AMERICA..! DEFEND AMERICA..! REPAIR THIS FUCKED UP COUNTRY..! I'VE GIVEN SOLUTIONS..! I'VE SHARED SOLUTIONS..! NOW HELP TO PUT THEM TO USE..! CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/9ad485b0/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 09:45:54 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 09:46:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CENTER OF CONTROVERSY.... Message-ID: <20060117164554.24106.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> I HAVE BEEN A CENTER OF CONTROVERSY FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND I DON'T LIKE IT. IT IS PARTLY MY FAULT; BUT NOT ENTIRELY MY FAULT. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/d9cf22c4/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 10:43:25 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 10:43:30 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] AMERICA, I BELIEVE IN YOU; LYRICS; BY: THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND. Message-ID: <20060117174326.42048.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> AMERICA, I BELIEVE IN YOU; LYRICS; BY: THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND: WE GOT SOME TROUBLE IN OUR OWN BACK YARD. THINGS ARE KINDA TOUGH. TIMES ARE KINDA HARD. GOT A LOTTA PEOPLE LIVIN' OUT IN THE STREET. AND PEOPLE GOIN' HUNGRY WITHOUT NOTHIN' TO EAT. AND IN THIS LAND OF PLENTY; THIS SHOULDN'T BE GOIN' ON. WE GOT ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY; WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO PASS IT ALONG. WELL, I'M GLAD ABOUT THE FALL OF COMMUNISM. I'M GLAD ABOUT THE BERLIN WALL. AND I LOVE SEE'IN OLD SADDAM BITE THE DUST. IN FACT I'M GLAD ABOUT IT ALL. AND I BELIEVE IN HELPIN' EV'RYBODY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THEM FALLIN' LOANS. I THINK WE OUTTA REMEMBER, THAT CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME. YES IT STARTS RIGHT HERE..! IN AMERICA; AMERICA. I KNOW THE SUN IS RISIN' ON A BETTER DAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. WE GOT THE POWER, AND WE KNOW THE WAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. WELL LET ME SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RED WHITE AND BLUE. AMERICA; AMERICA. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT; I BELIEVE IN YOU. (GUITAR SOLO) NOW I'VE BEEN TRYIN' TO FIGURE THIS OUT; BUT THERE'S SOMETHIN' THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW. HOW CAN YOU MAKE THINGS BETTER, WHEN YOU TAKE OUR JOBS, AND SEND 'EM DOWN TO MEXICO? AND THEN THERE WAS THIS BIG SHOT; FROM THE LAND OF THE RISING SUN. HE SAID THE WORKING PEOPLE IN AMERICA WERE LAZY AND DUMB. WELL LET ME TELL YA SOM'TN JACK..! THE NEXT TIME I GO ON SHOPPIN' TRIP; AND TAKE SOMETHIN' OFF OF THE RACK. IF IT DON'T SAY MADE IN THE U.S.A. ; I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT BACK. WE CAN'T LEAVE IT TO THE POLITICIANS. CAUSE THEY DON'T DO NOTHIN' BUT TALK. AND IT'S AH' WE THE PEOPLE, THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO WALK THE WALK. AND WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. IN AMERICA; AMERICA. HEY; I KNOW THE SUN IS RISIN' ON A BETTER DAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. YEAH; WE GOT THE POWER, AND WE KNOW THE WAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. NOW LET ME SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RED WHITE AND BLUE. AMERICA; AMERICA. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT; I BELIEVE IN YOU. WELL, WE GOT THE BEST DANG' FARMERS IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD. THE FASTEST HORSES, AND THE PRETTIEST GIRLS. GOT THE ARMY; THE NAVY; AIR FORCE AND MARINES. THE MIGHTIEST FIGHTIN' FORCE THE WORLD'S EVER SEEN. WE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT CAN GET THINGS DONE. WERE SERVIN' NOTICE THAT WE'RE STILL #1. (REPEAT:) WE'VE GOT THE NERVE. (WE'VE GOT THE NERVE.) WE'VE GOT THE WILL. (WE'VE GOT THE WILL.) WE'LL GET IT ALL TOGETHER CAUSE YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE STILL: AMERICA; AMERICA. WELL I KNOW THE SUN IS RISIN' ; IT'S A RISIN' ON A BETTER DAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. HEY HEY; WE GOT THE POWER AND WE, KNOW THE WAY. AMERICA; AMERICA. NOW LET ME SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RED WHITE AND BLUE. AMERICA; AMERICA. CAUSE I BELIEVE, IN YOU..! AMERICA; AMERICA. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/50134e5e/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 17 12:40:52 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 12:41:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060117125343.96253.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 17, 2006 04:53:43 AM Message-ID: <20060117194052.32163.qmail@mall-net.com> > > I have noticed that whenever you CC anyone on a Mad Scientists > > mailing, you don't get a copy. > > > > WHY WOULD THAT BE? > > It's just the way some mail servers are configured. This is not the > only one that is set up that way. > > WHAT DOES CC MEAN? Carbon Copy, as in the old typewriters, when you would put a carbon sheet and another paper to make a copy of what you were writing. > If you notice anything amis, it's someone not competent enough to be a > > PROBABLY THE COX CABLE FOLKS; IN COOPERATION WITH > GOVERNMENT. Cox!!! I've got a friend on Cox back east, and he's always complaining of lost mail! He's diagnosed their screwball network, shared the diagnosis with me because he was incredulous over what he was finding! Yep, that's what he was finding! Explained to their technicians what's wrong, and they fix it per his suggestions. Of course, it doesn't last. Within a month, someone has screwed it up again, and he has to start all over trying to get to some of the lead technical people. Cox is CRAP!!! There have been times when he found them sending packets to Los Angeles, back to Chicago, and then onto the real internet from New York, when he's in Connecticut! And sometimes, the packet makes two or three trips around their network before escaping!!! CRAP CRAP CRAP!!! > REASON ENOUGH, FOR THE LITTLE POMERANIAN DOG TO URINATE > AND DEFOCATE ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR; WHILE I HAD BEEN > GONE. Dogs do that on their own! I had a dog. I've known people who had dogs. The little ones do it more often than the big ones; but when they are ticked off, the do that! Or when they are sick. > TENSION! > > YES..! > > Adrenaline! > > YES..! > > Excess adrenaline will make you feel not just important, but > paranoid. > > PARANOID; AND ALSO HAVING A TREMENDOUS FEAR OF FAILURE. Yes. ANd a clinging to what you know and high resistance to changing anything. I see that all the time in high pressure situations I get involved in as a consultant. > Adrenachromes, the spent adrenaline, are mildly hallucinogenic > agents. > > ADRENACHROMES. > > ARE THERE ANY SUPPLEMENTS THAT SUPPRESS, AND OR > NEUTRALIZE ADRENACHROMES THAT YOU MAY KNOW OF? Yes. Eat less meat. Another thing I remembered as I woke up, was the "Black Rage" thing. (I was wondering why I dreamt about that as I woke up, then remembered you might have something like that, even if you are white.) My doctor said that several black patients of his commented that all the black rage stuff seemed to have been the direct result of milk allergies kicking up adrenaline. They became regular people when they stopped drinking milk and stopped eating milk products. It' lactose intolerance. Most Asian's and blacks have not evolved to handle milk past their childhoods. They didn't have cows. Europeans had cows, and so evolved. You might try that for two weeks and see what happens. I also had to cut out all things that had any yeasts in them. That was hard! Seems I was a yeast addict. Food addictions happen. When they do, it is the allergy to the food that kicks up adrenaline, and since you remember better under adrenaline stress (but remember far more narrowly), you grab that food again. After a while, the withdrawal symptoms, actually relaxation due to loss of adrenaline, drive you to take more of that food to boost you up, make you high on adrenaline again. Philpot: "Brain Allergies" Also http:..www.mall-net.com/mcs has some things about the immune system and allergies, food rotation, etc. So, oyu might stay away from milk for a few weeks, and see if that's doing it. Also try staying away from anything that you eat A lot of often. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From Vesta111 at aol.com Tue Jan 17 12:48:26 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 12:48:39 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). Message-ID: Clyde, I have had the same problem as you. I spent an hour writing out a report for work. Sent if off and went to bed. Next day, no report on office computer. I mulled it over when I got home wondering if someone had in fact taken it off the work comp. A few days later I again wrote another report and sent if off. Again, no report. I decided to check my sent mail and, no report there. I know I sent the reports before bed, did my computer eats it???? I think I found the answer, I no longer send anything important when I am tired. I believe the SEND NOW button is so close to the big red X delete that I had moved the curser too close to the X and wiped everything out Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/c50cdf8e/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Tue Jan 17 13:51:07 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 13:51:20 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). Message-ID: <75.5410f304.30feb2bb@aol.com> In a message dated 1/16/2006 12:49:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, javilk@mall-net.com writes: Yea, right, like the CIA was going to hire a reclusive, geeky 18 year old with coke bottle lenses who could barely read the lecture hall blackboards! And equip him with a gun on campus??? Hogwash!!! No one would be that stupid! They'd hire a really outgoing 25 year old who looked underage, and still had pimples. And that certainly wasn't me! Ah MY Friend, don't go there. In 18 years working with people from other country's, Americans from all walks of life, people on work release from prison, folks wanted by the law, future and past killers, rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, Ha We have had our share of cops from almost all domestic law enforcement come in under cover to work for a few days or months in a couple of cases. There is drug dealing on at work, we have a policy that is not going to stop the drugs, a crazy rule that says if you get hurt at work and need hospital attention, you must take a pee test. The drugged driver who ran you down on a fork lift doesn't have to take the test, just the victims of them. I like people, talk to all the new employees and after a few years got a feel for who is who and who is a phoney. Men going under cover as a rule do not have tattoos that show. Some are in fact 25 but look 18 to 23. They are quiet, hang around the obvious party people but are so unassuming no one can remember they were there. They LISTEN to all the gossip, sometimes asking questions about someone they don't work with. Some who are as you said outgoing are the dudes who without knowing you talk about drugs, sometimes to mention something in the paper about a drug bust (to gage reactions of those around him.) We have at times 15 big rigs pull up to load our product, these guys travel the country some do carry drugs and sell drugs on their travels. So, we know some kind of cop is there from time to time especially since our aliens and legals are mostly Moslem . You as you describe yourself at 18, would have made a wonderful undercover cop. Clyde as he comes across to us would have a great career. Who would ever suspect ?????? Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/641a2f74/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 17 17:11:19 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 17:11:23 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <75.5410f304.30feb2bb@aol.com> from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Jan 17, 2006 03:51:07 PM Message-ID: <20060118001119.42766.qmail@mall-net.com> >> Yea, right, like the CIA was going to hire a reclusive, geeky 18 >> year old with coke bottle lenses who could barely read the lecture hall >> blackboards! And equip him with a gun on campus??? Hogwash!!! No one >> would be that stupid! > >> They'd hire a really outgoing 25 year old who looked underage, and >> still had pimples. And that certainly wasn't me! > Men going under cover as a rule do not have tattoos that show. Some are in > fact 25 but look 18 to 23. They are quiet, hang around the obvious party people > but are so unassuming no one can remember they were there. They LISTEN to > all the gossip, sometimes asking questions about someone they don't work with. Outgoing enough to go out, not sit in the computer center. > Some who are as you said outgoing are the dudes who without knowing > you talk about drugs, sometimes to mention something in the paper about a drug > bust (to gage reactions of those around him.) Yep. > You as you describe yourself at 18, would have made a wonderful undercover > cop. Clyde as he comes across to us would have a great career. Who would > ever suspect ?????? Not me with that camera strap across my chest! Nor the rest of what I looked like. I was repeatedly mistaken (and wanted to be mistaken) for a grad student or professor, an establishment type. Sports coat, tie, etc. where most wore jeans, looked, in my opinion and th eopinion of many of us computer types, like bums. Many of us computer types were really clean cut people. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 18:32:03 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 18:32:09 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060118001119.42766.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060118013203.742.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Not me with that camera strap across my chest! SPEAKING OF CAMERA'S; I NEED A VERY VERY TRITE EDUCATION ON HOW MICRO CAMERA'S CAN BE MADE, HIDDEN, AND I ALSO NEED TO KNOW THE EXTENT OF HOW REDUNDANTLY THAT THEY CAN BE USED WITHOUT DETECTION BY THOSE WHO ARE BEING SURVEILED AGAINST, AND IF FIBER OPTICS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE FABRICATED INTO HIDDEN SPY CAMERA'S.... ETC.... THERE IS MORE I NEED TO KNOW, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT ELSE TO MENTION FOR NOW.... CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/f38903d8/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 17 18:49:16 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 18:49:30 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060118013203.742.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 17, 2006 05:32:03 PM Message-ID: <20060118014916.9441.qmail@mall-net.com> > SPEAKING OF CAMERA'S; I NEED A VERY VERY > TRITE EDUCATION ON HOW MICRO CAMERA'S > CAN BE MADE, HIDDEN, AND I ALSO NEED TO They are readily available on the web and in many electronics stores. Yep, even in Radio Shack. As to what you need, a simple camcorder with time lapse exposure would do quite well. Just set it under something no one will disturb. Most crooks are idiots. If, however, you are after the CIA, you need a time-lapse mechanical film camera, as the CIA is going to sweep the room with electronics detectors and pick up your camcorder and fabricate the video showing you that they are not there. There's no one there, Clyde. Nothing but your high adrenaline levels, or maybe carbon monoxide. I'd bet on the high adrenaline levels. Like I say, I've seen and read about some of this type of behavior before in high stress situations. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 18:53:41 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 18:53:48 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. Message-ID: <20060118015341.54642.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> MICRO CAMERA'S.... http://www.pimall.com/nais/fingercam.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/adb906bc/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 19:23:33 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 19:23:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: <20060118014916.9441.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060118022333.11667.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > SPEAKING OF CAMERA'S; I NEED A VERY VERY > TRITE EDUCATION ON HOW MICRO CAMERA'S > CAN BE MADE, HIDDEN, AND I ALSO NEED TO They are readily available on the web and in many electronics stores. Yep, even in Radio Shack. RADIO SMACK..! As to what you need, a simple camcorder with time lapse exposure would do quite well. Just set it under something no one will disturb. Most crooks are idiots. If, however, you are after the CIA, you need a time-lapse mechanical film camera, as the CIA is going to sweep the room with electronics detectors and pick up your camcorder and fabricate the video showing you that they are not there. There's no one there, Clyde. NONSENSE..! Nothing but your high adrenaline levels, or maybe carbon monoxide. I'd bet on the high adrenaline levels. IT IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS: HIGH ADRENALINE FROM GOVERNMENT-MEDIA PARANOIA; THEY HAVE BEEN, AND ARE CONTINUING, TO SURVEIL ME AND MY ACTIONS..! HIGH ADRENALINE FROM CANDIDA TOXICITY; I NOW KNOW FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN; EVEN THOUGH MY PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN IS A FUCKING GOD DAMNED LIAR..! AND YES: MORE THAN LIKELY HIGH ADRENALINE FROM CARBON MONOXIDE TOXICITY AS WELL..! I AM TOO GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED BROKE(N) TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD MY OWN REAL MCCOY CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR; TOO GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED BROKE(N) TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT EXACT PORTABLE SUPER SENSITIVE UNIT THAT YOU SUGGESTED. Like I say, I've seen and read about some of this type of behavior before in high stress situations. OK. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/cb1bb1c5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 17 19:58:01 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 19:58:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. In-Reply-To: <20060118015341.54642.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 17, 2006 05:53:41 PM Message-ID: <20060118025801.54288.qmail@mall-net.com> > MICRO CAMERA'S.... > > http://www.pimall.com/nais/fingercam.html 3 lux is a lot of light. I've used a Sony Nightshot type camera, which is rated a something like .1 lux, and it's not as good as a night adapted eyeball. Or maybe it's just my night adapted eyeballs. But how much money are you going to spend for that system of cameras, IR illuminator, and recorders, Clyde? If the CIA is intercepting your mail (instead of Cox losing it as we see in other cases), they will log the purchase and know. They will see the IR illuminators in their night vision gear. If you are really paranoid, to to a flea market, walk around a bit, bring either a paper bag with you, or buy a duffel bag there, then buy a used camcorder and stick it into the bag. I remember a cigarette lighter version that was on sale at some place like geek.com for around a hundred bucks. You set it somewhere, and it would take pictures every so many seconds. Look for cigarette lighter camera. That WILL catch your mom, her dog, and your neighbors, if they enter. And most FCC inspectors as well. But... ah... are you trying to do anything they would object to??? Are you trying to overthrow the government, distribute dope, or blow up the world? If not, these guys aren't going to care! Worse, the more high tech surveillance and cry pthew stuff you engage in, the more you will look like one of the above nicompoops. This is where I should plug my new book that I'm not going to write: "99 guaranteed ways to overthrown your local government." Only $1995! (Toss in a decimal point somewhere in that number.) Only thing is, I like the government, so I'm not going to overthrow it and I'm not going to write the book! But I bet I could come up with 999 ways of doing it without violins, yet. (Remember the cartoon -- The detective says "It was Gang Violins!" as the musicians walk away from the body. Kind of cute that in one of the Baltic languages, the word for violin also means a strangler who is female.) Violins or violence, I'm not going to write any book like that, unless it's aimed at the people under the Chinese dictatorship. But really, try staying off milk products for two weeks. You'll probably see some results in three to four days, getting better as the craving builds during the second week till you are no longer craving it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 21:02:29 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 21:02:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. In-Reply-To: <20060118025801.54288.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060118040229.53693.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: But really, try staying off milk products for two weeks. You'll probably see some results in three to four days, getting better as the craving builds during the second week till you are no longer craving it. ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO MENTION; AND THEN I FORGOT TO; BUT I HAVEN'T DRANK STANDARD MILK IN A LONG TIME; AND I DID FOR A WHILE - TOWARD THE END OF LAST YEAR - DRINK THE ORGANIC TYPE OF MILK, AND IT MADE ME FEEL WORSE, SO I DISCONTINUED DRINKING EVEN THAT KIND. I'VE STARTED DRINKING RICE MILK; AND IT IS EXTREMELY GOOD..! I WANT TO TRY HAZLENUT MILK TOO; THOUGH I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH TO TRY THAT; SINCE MONEY DOESN'T GO VERY FAR. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/cd2e115c/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 21:10:56 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 21:11:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. In-Reply-To: <20060118025801.54288.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060118041056.38676.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: But... ah... are you trying to do anything they would object to??? Are you trying to overthrow the government, distribute dope, or blow up the world? If not, these guys aren't going to care! NO; BUT I CAN COMPREHEND HOW THE MEDIA IS BECOMING A NEARLY TOTALITARIAN SURVEILANCE SCHEME. BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES WAS APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION; AND THE JOINT COOPERATIVE BETWEEN SUX COX COMMUNICATIONS, AND A.E.P. AMUR-ICAN ELECTRIC POWER, IS GOING TOO FAR..! SIGNS OF THE BEAST ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE EVIDENT NOW; AND WITH THE G.P.S. AND TRACKING SPY SATELLITES INCLUDED AS WELL; IT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND..! AN ORWELLIAN DAYMARE AND NIGHTMARE IS IN FULL BLOOM IT SEEMS..! I JUST WANT SERENITY AMONGST IT ALL..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/e5474d73/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 17 21:27:43 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 17 21:27:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. In-Reply-To: <20060118040229.53693.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 17, 2006 08:02:29 PM Message-ID: <20060118042743.35791.qmail@mall-net.com> > But really, try staying off milk products for two weeks. You'll > probably see some results in three to four days, getting better as the > craving builds during the second week till you are no longer craving it. > > ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO MENTION; AND THEN I FORGOT > TO; BUT I HAVEN'T DRANK STANDARD MILK IN A LONG TIME; Standard, meaning any cow's milk products (e.g. cheese, milk, etc.) > AND I DID FOR A WHILE - TOWARD THE END OF LAST YEAR - > DRINK THE ORGANIC TYPE OF MILK, AND IT MADE ME FEEL > WORSE, SO I DISCONTINUED DRINKING EVEN THAT KIND. Interesting. > I'VE STARTED DRINKING RICE MILK; AND IT IS EXTREMELY > GOOD..! Probably is... > I WANT TO TRY HAZLENUT MILK TOO; THOUGH I'M GOING > TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH TO TRY THAT; SINCE > MONEY DOESN'T GO VERY FAR. Yes, those things can be expensive. Ok, so if you are not eating cheese or such, then it's probably not milk. Could it be something else you eat often? I still think something, maybe an allergy is making you generate a lot of adrenaline. And that is known to induce the kind of perceptions and behaviors you are exhibiting. I know, because I was trying tyrosine to see if it would help my allergies. I did. But it caused that kind of perceptions. I understood what was going on and kind of laughed about it; but when half the police force (ok, only six officers) walked into the grocery store I was shopping in, WOOO HOOO!!! Paranoia! They are out to get me! And then the double take and inner laughter, as I knew darned well there was no underlaying reason for them to take any interest in me. It was just so funny, then and now to remember it! I recognized the mental straight jacket too much tyrosine was putting me into -- a frame of reference that was not reasonable. (And with that adrenaline, my blood pressure hit 180 / 120, not the usual 120 / 75.) That also reminds me that iodine can help reduce adrenaline by shunting tyrosine into the thyroid paths, where it gives one an inner glow IF everything else is ok. I had some Dulse seaweed later that day, and Instant Nirvana! But it turns out that Nirvana is just another mental straight jacket discouraging the breadth of thought that my mind normally engages in. I see some of that in you, Clyde; the committing to a train of thought without exploring alternatives. Your train of thought must cascade as a small river plunging down gorges. Mine meanders, considering many things, many ways of interpreting what is about me and what I wish to do, so that I am more able than most people to find alternative ways of getting things done, paths to reach goals; when others are just beating their heads against some obstacle, trying to smash through. Adrenaline does that. Some call it the wide-eye disease, and say it is endemic in America. Seems that way. Try to go for long walks, maybe jogging a little, and some quiet non-transcendental meditation. Don't leap out of bed in the morning, lay there for five or ten minutes before you get up, letting your mind wander upon your dreams and plans. But also, think about food addictions, what do you almost always eat? Lay that aside for a week or two. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 21:32:24 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 17 21:32:28 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING MY E-MAIL(S). In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060118043224.56026.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: Clyde, I have had the same problem as you. IT ISN'T THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. MANY; THOUGH NOT ALL OF MY CC'S OF THE E-MAIL POSTINGS TO THE MAD SCIENTISTS LIST, ARE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND ARE NOT GOING BACK TO ME. AS TO WHERE THEY ARE GOING; I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA. DOES: Transferring data from adt.m7z.net MEAN ANYTHING TO EITHER YOU OR JOHN? IS THAT JUST SOME POSSIBLE HACKER OUT THERE? IS THAT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO FIGURE ANYTHING OUT OF WHERE INFORMATION FROM THIS COMPUTER TERMINAL IS GOING TO, WHEN I SEND E-MAILS, AND WHEN I OPEN MESSAGES; OR WHEN I VISIT WEBSITES? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060117/d43a95b1/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Wed Jan 18 00:50:33 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Wed Jan 18 00:50:39 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. Message-ID: <2cf.1d09057.30ff4d49@aol.com> In a message dated 1/17/2006 11:11:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: I JUST WANT SERENITY AMONGST IT ALL..! CLYDE Please define for us as best you can what would be serenity for you. Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060118/567e8f51/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 06:03:39 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 18 06:03:45 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN; BY: TESLA (THE BAND). Message-ID: <20060118130339.44203.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> HEAVEN NINE ELEVEN; BY: TESLA (THE BAND): TELL ME WHY THERE'S SO MUCH PAIN TODAY..! CAUSE TAKING LIVES IS FOR THEIR GAIN; OR SO THEY SAY..! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, BUT THEY FEEL THIS WAY..! AND THAT'S THE WAY OF THE WORLD..! TELL ME WHY IT TAKES A TRADGEDY TO SEE..! TO WAKE US UP, AND BRING US DOWN TO OUR KNEES..! WE, ALL THE PEOPLE, SUFFERING WITH DISEASE; AND THAT'S THE WAY; THAT'S THE WAY; THAT'S THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD..! AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE SUN BURNS THE GROUND; THERE'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY..! IS OUR GOD LOOKING DOWN; AND DOES HE FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN..? AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! TEACH THE CHILDREN WHAT IT MEANS TO LOVE..! SHOW THEM WHY THAT WE CAN NEVER GIVE ENOUGH..! LET'S WORK TOGETHER; WE CAN RISE ABOVE..! AND CHANGE THE WAYS; CHANGE THE WAYS; CHANGE THE WAYS OF THE WORLD..! AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE SKY TURNS TO BROWN; THERE'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY..! IS OUR GOD LOOKING DOWN; AND DOES HE FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN..? AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE SUN BURNS THE GROUND; THERE'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY..! IS OUR GOD LOOKING DOWN; AND DOES HE FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN..? AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! AS THE SKY TURNS TO BROWN; THERE'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY..! IS OUR GOD LOOKING DOWN; AND DOES HE FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN..? AS THE WORLD CRASHES DOWN; HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER EVERYDAY..! HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER NOW..! HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER NOW..! HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER NOW..! HEAVEN'S LOOKING BETTER..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060118/fd0944a8/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Jan 18 09:46:03 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Jan 18 09:46:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MICRO CAMERA'S. In-Reply-To: <20060118115237.14583.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 18, 2006 03:52:37 AM Message-ID: <20060118164603.25307.qmail@mall-net.com> > Please define for us as best you can, what would be serenity for you. > > ABSOLUTE PEACE; BOTH INSIDE OF MYSELF, AND OUTSIDE > OF MYSELF, SIMULTANEOUSLY..! But what is peace? Absolute peace is death. Near-absolute peace is being in control of your life and doing nothing. That does not last! You need to do something that takes you forward. But for a while, "nothing" is important as it lets your brain mull things over. Decent peace is having enough control that you are able to pursue some of the things you enjoy, and get some reward from them. Chaos is where others drive you and you don't have time. > TO THE POINT OF LIVING IN A(N) 'NEARLY' ABSOLUTELY > PERFECTLY SELF SUFFICIENT, HERMETICALLY SEALED > EXISTANCE AND REALITY..! So, in your hermetic system, what produces oxygen? In a near-hermetic system, what brings you interests to pursue? It's not just you, mostly it is others. You read and see things, talk to people. But more important, in a near-hermetic system, who satisfies you? Not yourself! You are not interesting enough to yourself to satisfy yourself for long. No one is. Ultimately, most of us derive some satisfaction seeing others appreciate what we've done. Sometimes, it's just the questions we've asked. Other times it may be seeing others use the tools we've designed and made. But... mad or not, we are social animals. One does not have peace if someone is talking with us, or if someone expects something from us. But most of the time, it is the expectations and discussions OF OTHERS that validate our existance. Like you validating mine in this discussion, by making me think how to answer you in a meaningful way. Or you, your mother's existance. I live to solve problems. Solving other people's problems, as long as they are not excessive, validates my existance. When I also get paid for that, it validates my finances! And I am not getting enough validation from others in the financial area. So... who validates your existance? Can you get more people to do so? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 10:42:05 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 18 10:42:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED. Message-ID: <20060118174205.48957.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED: MANUFACTURING FACILITY: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 1837 E. PACIFIC STREET SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI 65803-4540 PHONE # (417) 865-5100 CORPORATE OFFICES: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 8849 BOND OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS 66214 PHONE # (800) 832-0053 WEBSITE: http://www.lsiinternational.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060118/dd0b766d/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 12:24:27 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 18 12:24:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)? Message-ID: <20060118192427.11142.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)? THIS DAMNED B.P.L. THING HAS GONE TOO FAR FOR THE BRAINDEAD AMERICAN PUBLIC..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060118/5c789ef0/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 12:28:16 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 18 12:28:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAN I LEASE OFFICE SPACE..? Message-ID: <20060118192817.29462.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> DON, CAN I LEASE OFFICE SPACE IN TULSA'S LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER, FOR ONE PAPER GEORGE WASHINGTON PER MONTH, FOR RENT..? SINCERELY: CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <29b.3e582b2.31000aac@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/2006 6:53:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, clydelofton@yahoo.com writes: ABSOLUTE PEACE; BOTH INSIDE OF MYSELF, AND OUTSIDE OF MYSELF, SIMULTANEOUSLY..! TO THE POINT OF LIVING IN A(N) 'NEARLY' ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY SELF SUFFICIENT, HERMETICALLY SEALED EXISTANCE AND REALITY..! CLYDE .Clyde, you can have that you know, anyone can, First you have to give up everything you own, sell EVERYTHING. Keep enough money for food and shelter, make your clothing last even though you have to repair it yourself. No radio station, brain wave thing -a -ma- bobs, sell all your music and stereos, no tv or vcr.or radio. Your food should be simply rice beans and some vegetables, drink only water. No soda, coffee, beer, just plain old tap water. Stay out of contact with family members, let them know you are alive from time to time but refuse to speak, see, or have any interaction with them. Do the same with your friends one by one, become a loner. At your job you may have to interact with people but unless work related, do not speak with them. Hoard your money, this process will take 5 years or so but at your age, that is no time at all. All your time should be spent at the library reading philosophy, history and psychology. After 5 years you may be close to your serenity. Also you may have enough money saved to buy a bit of land, build a cabin and get your 'NEARLY' ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY SELF SUFFICIENT, HERMETICALLY SEALED EXISTANCE AND REALITY..! "WHAT," you can't be happy without your music, you don't like that diet, can't give up your radio station, and you would feel bad on holidays without your family ???? Clyde, all things a person wants comes with sacrifice, yup, one cannot get anything in life without giving up all the things that stand in the way of gaining your desires. The down side of finally getting your wishes is that once you get them, they never seem worth the struggle. Clyde be careful of what you wish, you might get it. Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060118/aa79627d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 03:54:52 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 03:55:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ORAGENICS WEBLINK..! Message-ID: <20060119105452.55523.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> ORAGENICS WEBLINK TO SHARE: http://www.oragenics.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/80d12706/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 04:41:57 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 04:42:02 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED. Message-ID: <20060119114157.66772.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> (REVISED:) LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED: MANUFACTURING FACILITY: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 1837 E. PACIFIC STREET SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI 65803-4540 PHONE # (417) 865-5100 CORPORATE OFFICES: LSI INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED 11529 W. 79TH STREET LENEXA, KANSAS 66214 TOLL FREE PHONE # (800) 832-0053 LOCAL PHONE # (913) 894-4493 WEBSITE: http://www.lsiinternational.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/9458d32d/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 04:48:28 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 04:48:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS..! Message-ID: <20060119114828.68664.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> WHEN IS THE TULSA CODE OF ETHICS GOING TO BE CREATED, OR MASS SCALE PRINTED..? CLYDE LOFTON TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/aef2dcd3/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 05:16:20 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 05:16:25 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] VESTA. In-Reply-To: <29b.3e582b2.31000aac@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060119121620.66996.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: Your food should be simply rice beans and some vegetables. INSUFFICIENT NUTRIENTS..! Drink only water. EASY: BOTTLED DISTILLED WATER..! ANOTHER PRODUCT WHICH NEEDS A WIDER SCALE MASS PRODUCTION..! No soda, coffee, or beer. CAN'T DRINK SODA ANYMORE..! I'VE NEVER LIKED COFFEE; AND SO I DON'T DRINK COFFEE..! AND; LIKE JOHN; I NOW HAVE DIFFICULTY DRINKING ALCOHOLIC DRINKS, DUE TO CANDIDA TOXICITY..! Just plain old tap water. TAP WATER: CRAP WATER..! Stay out of contact with family members. I DO NOT LIKE MANY FAMILY MEMBERS NOW, ON BOTH SIDES OF MY BIRTH FAMILY..! Hoard your money. TOO BAD THE BANKS HAVE HOARDED ALL OF THE MONEY OF ANY VALUE, FROM WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA..! PAPER CURRENCY IS NO LONGER BACKED BY SUFFICIENT GOLD, SILVER, PLATINUM, STEEL, STAINLESS STEEL, CHROMIUM, ALUMINUM, COPPER, BRASS, BRONZE, LEAD, ZINC, ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC.... This process will take 5 years or so but at your age, that is no time at all. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE; FOR EVERYONE. All your time should be spent at the library reading philosophy, history and psychology. PHILOSOPHY GET'S THROWN IN THE TRASH..! MOST HISTORY GET'S THROWN IN THE TRASH; THOUGH NOT ALL OF IT..! AND MOST OF PSYCHOLOGY GET'S THROWN IN THE TRASH AS WELL..! The down side of finally getting your wishes is that once you get them, they never seem worth the struggle. IS THAT RIGHT..? AND I THOUGHT AMERICA WAS THE LAND OF THE FREE, AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE..! Regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. GOOD..! NOW LET'S PUT THAT WRITTEN WORD TO USE, AND CLEAN UP THIS FUCKING DIRTY COUNTRY..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/f4f05fbc/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 06:03:12 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 06:03:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERNET: Message-ID: <20060119130313.10083.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> INTERNET: 1. SHELF IN THE ROOM LYRICS. 2. MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT FINANCIAL AND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. 3. CONTACTING GEORGE THE KAISER, OF THIS INDUSTRIALIZED THIRD WORLD COUNTRY (TURD WORLD COUNTRY) SLUM TOWN. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/bc3c92d6/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 06:11:20 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 06:11:26 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] ISN'T IT STRANGE..! Message-ID: <20060119131120.38203.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> ISN'T IT STRANGE HOW THE ICE AT THE WILLIAMS CENTER CLOSED, AND SO CHRIS MOVED OUT TO EAST TULSA, AND WORKED FOR THE TULSA ICE ARENA..? ISN'T IT ALSO STRANGE THAT THE TULSA ICE ARENA WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, AND NOW THE ONLY ICE RINK IN TULSA THAT REMAINS OPEN, IS THE TULSA OILERS ICE RINK..? ISN'T IT ALSO INTERESTING, THAT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ME; BEING THAT IT HAS TELEPORTED TO THE EXACT SAME BEDROOM THAT MY BROTHER CHRIS AND I HAD TO GROW UP IN, TOGETHER, AS SIBLINGS..! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHY AM I SUCH A CENTER OF CONTROVERSY FOR THIS SLUDGEPIT TOWN OF TULSA OKLAHOMA..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/120d5cae/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 06:34:17 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 06:34:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (no subject) Message-ID: <20060119133417.76835.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> http://oaspub.epa.gov/enviro/multisys2.get_list?facility_uin=110000604301 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/1909e6ed/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Jan 19 18:28:58 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Thu Jan 19 18:29:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde Message-ID: <86.36b66bad.310196da@aol.com> Dear Clyde, What is going on ?? For months and longer you have begged us for help with your problems. We, especially John has spent many hours trying to help you. I myself have spent hours worrying about you and the path you are going. It is now time to cut bait or fish. You ignore all the advise we give you, John especially , so what is it you want from us ?? Time to get on the stick boy, John has been telling you for months to get a throw away camera and photo things, well have you? I for one feel that you are using us , yup, you are a user. All this stuff about past life, present life, future life is a ball of wax. You whine like a teenager about how no one understands you, there are times when you remind me of a 2 year old that hold their breath until they turn blue. Just how long do you think we have to hear you whine about neighbors that you don't like?? For Gods sake, turn down your stereo. Clyde, I think you are a phoney, sure as hell, I think you have been using this board to get some kind of " oh poor me " reaction from us all. Week after week John has told you that you are less then small fry to the government, no spying, for you, because you don't rate it. Clude, if you care so much about Tulsa and the problems there, why have you not become or part of council meeting that are open to the public??? To put it in the words of my generation , Clyde get your shit together !!! VESTA The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/4eb1a4d9/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 20:05:42 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 20:05:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde In-Reply-To: <86.36b66bad.310196da@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060120030542.85233.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Vesta111@aol.com wrote: Dear Clyde, What is going on ?? For months and longer you have begged us for help with your problems. I DON'T RECALL BEGGING..! We, especially John have spent many hours trying to help you. AND YOU ALL HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED ME..! I HOPE I HAVE HELPED YOU ALL TOO..! I myself have spent hours worrying about you, and the path you are going. It is now time to cut bait or fish. YEAH; I NEED TO KNOW IF FISHING USING NETS IS LEGAL OR NOT IN ALL OF THE STATES IN THE UNION OF THIS COUNTRY..? I'VE NEVER EVER BEEN ANY GOOD AT ALL AT FISHING USING FISHING POLES..! You ignore all the advise we give you. NOT TRUE..! John especially. NOT TRUE..! So what is it you want from us ?? I HAVE GOTTEN TREMENDOUS ADVISE FROM BOTH OF YOU, AND FROM MIKE AS WELL. I AM MOVING TOO FAR TOO FAST, AND JUST HAVE INFORMATION OVERLOAD..! I NEED TO OVERDOSE ON CHILL PILLS I GUESS..! AND MONEY; IT IS A MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE OF US. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO EXACTLY. MY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS ALL SCREWED UP. Time to get on the stick boy, YEAH; I'VE DONE IT; AND I AM ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM WHAT LITTLE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN POSSIBLE IN THIS LAND OF THE UNFREE; THIS LAND OF ANTI-OPPORTUNITY: TULSA OKLAHOMA. John has been telling you for months to get a throw away camera and photo things. Well have you? NO. THOUGH I HAVE USED THROW AWAY CAMERA'S BEFORE, AND THEY JUST AREN'T A HIGH ENOUGH PRIORITY ON MY LIST. SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS TO DO. I for one feel that you are using us, Yup, you are a user. AM I? I DON'T THINK SO. I'VE SHARED A LOT. SO MUCH SO THAT I AM ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM ALL THAT I HAVE DONE, TO VERY MINIMAL AVAIL..! All this stuff about past life, present life, future life is a ball of wax. PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE? WHAT? You whine like a teenager about how no one understands you, NO WHINING. JUST SO MUCH SUPPRESSED RAW ANGER, THAT WANTS TO BECOME PURE ELECTRIC AND SONIC ACOUSTIC ENERGY..! there are times when you remind me of a 2 year old that holds their breath until they turn blue. HOW ABOUT A 100 YEAR OLD THAT HAS NO LIFE BREATH REMAINING WITHIN MYSELF; TO THE POINT OF TURNING BLUE, BLACK, RED, ICE PALE WHITE, AND NUCLEAR WHITE HOT, ETC; WITH A HEART IN MY CHEST THAT GOES FROM EXPLOSIVE ENERGY, ALL OF THE WAY TO VACUUM ENERGY; TO NOT EVEN EXISTING AT ALL..! WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT ALL??? IT HURTS TOO MUCH..! Just how long do you think we have to hear you "whine" BLAST..! about neighbors that you don't like?? For Gods sake, turn down your stereo. ALREADY DID THAT..! Clyde, I think you are a phoney, sure as hell. I think you have been using this board to get some kind of " oh poor me " reaction from us all. NONSENSE..! INFORMATION OVERLOAD, WITH INSUFFICIENT OUTLETS TO CHANNEL..! Week after week John has told you that you are less than small fry to the government, no spying, for you, because you don't rate it. YES: TRUE..! THOUGH YOU ALL DO NOT KNOW THE HALF OF THE HELL THAT I HAVE RAISED ON THE AIRWAVES AND ON THE NET; WHICH IS REFLECTIVE OF ALL OF THHE HELL THAT I HAVE GONE THROUGH IN MY LIFE..! FOR GOOD INTENTIONS THOUGH..! Clyde, if you care so much about Tulsa and the problems there, why have you not become part of a council meeting that is open to the public??? YEAH: I WENT TO ONE OF THEM; AND MISSED THE ONE THAT WAS TONIGHT, AT 7:00. I'VE GOTTA GO NEXT WEEK, AND MAKE MY VOICE HEARD; THOUGH I ABSOLUTELY GOD DAMN HATE BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT..! To put it in the words of my generation; Clyde get your shit together !!! MONEY AND SHIT..! MONEY ='S SHIT..! FUCK MONEY..! OVERTAXXXATION MUST BE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, BECAUSE ALL HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE IN TULSA; AND IN AMERICA AS WELL..! I SEE WASHINGTON D.C. GETTING LYNCH MOBBED IF THE FUCKING POLITICIANS AND THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA GOVERNMENT DON'T QUIT ALL OF THEIR GOD DAMNED SHIT..! VESTA CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/41b705c7/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 19 20:32:33 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 19 20:32:50 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde In-Reply-To: <20060120030542.85233.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 19, 2006 07:05:42 PM Message-ID: <20060120033233.80709.qmail@mall-net.com> > What is going on ?? For months and longer you have begged us for help with your problems. > > I DON'T RECALL BEGGING..! > > We, especially John have spent many hours trying to help you. > > AND YOU ALL HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED ME..! > I HOPE I HAVE HELPED YOU ALL TOO..! Thankyou. > I myself have spent hours worrying about you, and the path you are going. > It is now time to cut bait or fish. > > YEAH; I NEED TO KNOW IF FISHING USING NETS IS LEGAL OR NOT > IN ALL OF THE STATES IN THE UNION OF THIS COUNTRY..? > I'VE NEVER EVER BEEN ANY GOOD AT ALL AT FISHING USING > FISHING POLES..! Intersting way of putting it. What does it matter if it is legal everywhere? Do you know where you are? We don't need to know everything before we try something, only that it is reasonable to try here and now. To have to know everywhere, implies uncertainty of where you are, and doubt about what you wish to do. Doubt is good, to a point. But one needs to scope one's doubt, to try to narrow it and resolve it so that one can make the decision of whether to fish or not. or in the figurative sense, whether one's doubt is reasonable, or unreasonable. > So what is it you want from us ?? > > I HAVE GOTTEN TREMENDOUS ADVISE FROM BOTH OF YOU, AND > FROM MIKE AS WELL. > I AM MOVING TOO FAR TOO FAST, AND JUST HAVE INFORMATION > OVERLOAD..! I think it more a fear and adrenaline overload. > I NEED TO OVERDOSE ON CHILL PILLS I GUESS..! Nah, just try to sleep 9 to ten hours a night for a week and see what happens. > AND MONEY; IT IS A MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE OF US. > SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO EXACTLY. Laughing! Laughter is intersting, there is first the in halation of fear that this is your situation, then the exhalation of relaxation that this really isn't your problem. You really need to try to laugh at yourself, Clyde. It's probably the best therapy you can do for yourself. > MY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS ALL SCREWED UP. I understand. I have some problems too, mostly in coordination at times. > Time to get on the stick boy, > > YEAH; I'VE DONE IT; AND I AM ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM WHAT > LITTLE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN POSSIBLE IN THIS LAND OF THE > UNFREE; THIS LAND OF ANTI-OPPORTUNITY: TULSA OKLAHOMA. Clyde, don't blame your location. Because when you do, you don't address how you can improve yourself. > John has been telling you for months to get a throw away camera and photo things. > > Well have you? > > NO. > THOUGH I HAVE USED THROW AWAY CAMERA'S BEFORE, AND > THEY JUST AREN'T A HIGH ENOUGH PRIORITY ON MY LIST. > SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS TO DO. Better than throw away, maybe $50 Wall-Mart USB compatible camera. Re-programming your mind to relax is the top priority, Clyde. All the mad science can wait. You need to learn to recognize beauty, for then you might start seeing it around you. > You whine like a teenager about how no one understands you, > > NO WHINING. > JUST SO MUCH SUPPRESSED RAW ANGER, THAT WANTS TO > BECOME PURE ELECTRIC AND SONIC ACOUSTIC ENERGY..! We all whine from time to time. The thing isn't not to whine, it is to look at how to get where you want to go. When you see that, you while less. (And drink less wine too, because you want to speed up the progress.) > there are times when you remind me of a 2 year old that holds their > breath until they turn blue. > > HOW ABOUT A 100 YEAR OLD THAT HAS NO LIFE BREATH REMAINING > WITHIN MYSELF; TO THE POINT OF TURNING BLUE, BLACK, RED, ICE > PALE WHITE, AND NUCLEAR WHITE HOT, ETC; WITH A HEART IN MY > CHEST THAT GOES FROM EXPLOSIVE ENERGY, ALL OF THE WAY TO > VACUUM ENERGY; TO NOT EVEN EXISTING AT ALL..! Anyone ever checked you for thyroid storms? > WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT ALL??? > IT HURTS TOO MUCH..! it's a requirement of being alive. Some of the best work is done due to the broken heart. The Taj Mahall, some art, etc. > Clyde, I think you are a phoney, sure as hell. Vesta may. Me, I've seen some of this before. But it really doesn't matter. What matters is that we save your soul. Religious technology isn't there yet; but I'm not going to save your soul to trade in for valuable coupons... like some of the other religious clerics seem to want to do. (Save 5,000 souls and get free trip to Nirvana! Someone else says they offer a free get out of Hell card for only 2,000 souls.) Clyde, I just want to see you get better. > > Week after week John has told you that you are less than small fry to the > government, no spying, for you, because you don't rate it. > > YES: TRUE..! > THOUGH YOU ALL DO NOT KNOW THE HALF OF THE HELL THAT I > HAVE RAISED ON THE AIRWAVES AND ON THE NET; WHICH IS > REFLECTIVE OF ALL OF THHE HELL THAT I HAVE GONE THROUGH > IN MY LIFE..! > FOR GOOD INTENTIONS THOUGH..! Clyde, not to worry. You're not the only crazy on the airwaves. I suspect most of the "Holy Rollers" evangelizing out there are crazier than you are! > Clyde, if you care so much about Tulsa and the problems there, why have you not become part of a council meeting that is open to the public??? > > YEAH: I WENT TO ONE OF THEM; AND MISSED THE ONE THAT WAS > TONIGHT, AT 7:00. > > I'VE GOTTA GO NEXT WEEK, AND MAKE MY VOICE HEARD; THOUGH > I ABSOLUTELY GOD DAMN HATE BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT..! Best way is to ask questions. Don't tell them, ask the questions so they have to think about it to answer you. > FUCK MONEY..! Gee, I thought the soviets said that. Look where it got them! Money is important enough to study and track. > OVERTAXXXATION MUST BE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, BECAUSE ALL Nah., > HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE IN TULSA; AND IN AMERICA AS WELL..! Nah. > I SEE WASHINGTON D.C. GETTING LYNCH MOBBED IF THE FUCKING > POLITICIANS AND THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA GOVERNMENT DON'T QUIT > ALL OF THEIR GOD DAMNED SHIT..! Again, that view is a symptom of high adrenaline and low facts, little understanding of history. Relax. You're alive! That's more than a lot of people can say. Or could, if they were able to talk. We lost a few last night and the night before. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 20:41:26 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 20:41:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRECTION. In-Reply-To: <20060120030542.85233.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060120034126.22263.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> CORRECTION: OVERTAXXXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION MUST BE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, BECAUSE ALL HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE IN TULSA; AND IN AMERICA AS WELL..! I SEE WASHINGTON D.C. GETTING LYNCH MOBBED IF THE FUCKING POLITICIANS AND THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA GOVERNMENT DON'T QUIT ALL OF THEIR GOD DAMNED SHIT..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/8f9a8997/attachment.html From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 21:18:08 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Thu Jan 19 21:18:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <20060120033253.DC6DA3986C@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <20060120041808.29913.qmail@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You know, I joined this list to learn and interact with other "mad scientists " but it really seems like every single message is Clyde hand-holding. I'm at the point where I am ready to delete my membership. Clyde, if you feel this stuff so strongly then why not put it on a blog and rant all you want, but please stop filling up our mailboxes with this self indulgent paranoia . I am tired of the Tesla lyrics and how the government is watching you - Even if its true, what does it have to do with this list? Or just get some therapy. There are places that have a descending scale based on your pay and most insurance companies cover treatment. And guys, if you want to help him or indulge this stuff , can't you take it off list and do it via personal emails or IMs and get this back to what its intended? Respectfully but annoyed, Jeff --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/1977e126/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 21:25:45 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 21:26:21 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Clyde. In-Reply-To: <20060120033233.80709.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060120042545.66023.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: Thank you. YOU'RE WELCOME..! > I myself have spent hours worrying about you, and the path you are going. > It is now time to cut bait or fish. > > YEAH; I NEED TO KNOW IF FISHING USING NETS IS LEGAL OR NOT > IN ALL OF THE STATES IN THE UNION OF THIS COUNTRY..? > I'VE NEVER EVER BEEN ANY GOOD AT ALL AT FISHING USING > FISHING POLES..! Interesting way of putting it. What does it matter if it is legal everywhere? I DON'T KNOW. THOUGH I DO KNOW HOW TO DO HIGH VOLTAGE FISHING..! HIGHLY ILLEGAL..! Do you know where you are? LOST IN SPACE, TIME, 'ANTI'MONEY, DIMENSIONS (PHASES), AND ENERGY; ETC; IN THIS INDUSTRIALIZED CESSPOOL OF TULSA OKLAHOMA. We don't need to know everything before we try something, only that it is reasonable to try here and now. OK. To have to know everywhere, implies uncertainty of where you are, and doubt about what you wish to do. OK. Doubt is good, to a point. But one needs to scope one's doubt, to try to narrow it and resolve it so that one can make the decision of whether to fish or not. I KNOW OF GOOD PLACES TO FISH; THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BOTH NET THE FISH, OR HOW TO FILLET THE FISH. or in the figurative sense, whether one's doubt is reasonable, or unreasonable. I DON'T KNOW. > So what is it you want from us ?? > > I HAVE GOTTEN TREMENDOUS ADVISE FROM BOTH OF YOU, AND > FROM MIKE AS WELL. > I AM MOVING TOO FAR TOO FAST, AND JUST HAVE INFORMATION > OVERLOAD..! I think it more a fear and adrenaline overload. A COMBINATION OF BOTH; PLUS ANGER, MISERY, AND DEPRESSION. > I NEED TO OVERDOSE ON CHILL PILLS I GUESS..! Nah, just try to sleep 9 to ten hours a night for a week and see what happens. IF POSSIBLE. > AND MONEY; IT IS A MAN DAMNED AND GOD DAMNED PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE OF US. > SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO EXACTLY. Laughing! Laughter is interesting, there is first the inhalation of fear that this is your situation, then the exhalation of relaxation that this really isn't your problem. You really need to try to laugh at yourself, Clyde. It's probably the best therapy you can do for yourself. LAUGHING HAS BECOME A VERY VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO IN MY LIFE. > MY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM IS ALL SCREWED UP. I understand. I have some problems too, mostly in coordination at times. > Time to get on the stick boy, > > YEAH; I'VE DONE IT; AND I AM ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM WHAT > LITTLE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN POSSIBLE IN THIS LAND OF THE > UNFREE; THIS LAND OF ANTI-OPPORTUNITY: TULSA OKLAHOMA. Clyde, don't blame your location. Because when you do, you don't address how you can improve yourself. I DAMN WELL BLAME MY LOCATION..! SO MANY OTHERS THAT I KNOW, HATE TULSA; AND I HAVE STOOD UP FOR TULSA, AND HAVE DEFENDED TULSA FOR SO LONG NOW; ONLY TO HAVE IT FURTHER IMPRISON ME, IN ITS ENDLESS INSANITY. THERE'S THAT GEORGE STRAIT SONG: TELL ME SOMETHING BAD ABOUT TULSA. I NEED TO GET THAT SONG ON C.D. ..! AND THE CLASSIC: TULSA TIME; IN MY CASE; THE ERIC CLAPTON VERSION; AND I THINK THAT A THRASH METAL BAND LIKE DISTURBED OUTTA DO AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT SPEED-THRASH-METAL COVER VERSION OF TULSA TIME; INSTEAD OF THE LYRIC SAYING: MY BABY; IT NEEDS TO BE WORDED: THE BABY..! TULSA TIME; THE SONG ABOUT THE EVERLASTING INSANITY OF THIS EVERLASTING INSANE CHAOS SHITHOLE TOWN; ALWAYS SPINNING AROUND AND AROUND IN CIRCLES, GOING NOWHERE, IN VERTIGO; GOING ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE: AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND; GODDAMNIT: WHEN THE FUCK DOES IT STOP ..! ..? ??? > John has been telling you for months to get a throw away camera and photo things. > > Well have you? > > NO. > THOUGH I HAVE USED THROW AWAY CAMERA'S BEFORE, AND > THEY JUST AREN'T A HIGH ENOUGH PRIORITY ON MY LIST. > SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS TO DO. Better than throw away, maybe $50 Wall-Mart USB compatible camera. THAT SOUNDS COOL..! I'D LIKE TO TAKE PICTURES TO POST TO THE MAD-SCI LIST, IF POSSIBLE..! Re-programming your mind to relax is the top priority, Clyde. I'VE GOTTA GET A CONTROL TIMER FOR THE BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT HELMET. I CANNOT CONTINUE TO COPE WITH ALL OF THE DRUG AND SUPPLEMENT ADDICTION: IT IS HELL..! IT IS JUST FAR TOO STRESSFUL; WITH MONEY ALWAYS BEING AT INSUFFICIENT SUPPLY..! All the mad science can wait. You need to learn to recognize beauty, for then you might start seeing it around you. GOD DAMN..! THE FUCKING MEDIA..! NOTHING BUT ENDLESS BAD NEWS..! EVERY GOD DAMNED DAY..! THEY FUCKING FEED ON EVERY BIT OF THAT SHIT..! > You whine like a teenager about how no one understands you, > > NO WHINING. > JUST SO MUCH SUPPRESSED RAW ANGER, THAT WANTS TO > BECOME PURE ELECTRIC AND SONIC ACOUSTIC ENERGY..! We all whine from time to time. The thing isn't not to whine, it is to look at how to get where you want to go. When you see that, you whine less. (And drink less wine too, because you want to speed up the progress.) > there are times when you remind me of a 2 year old that holds their > breath until they turn blue. > > HOW ABOUT A 100 YEAR OLD THAT HAS NO LIFE BREATH REMAINING > WITHIN MYSELF; TO THE POINT OF TURNING BLUE, BLACK, RED, ICE > PALE WHITE, AND NUCLEAR WHITE HOT, ETC; WITH A HEART IN MY > CHEST THAT GOES FROM EXPLOSIVE ENERGY, ALL OF THE WAY TO > VACUUM ENERGY; TO NOT EVEN EXISTING AT ALL..! Anyone ever checked you for thyroid storms? NO..! BUT I FUCKING GODDAMN NEED IT..! > WHY EVEN HAVE A HEART AT ALL??? > IT HURTS TOO MUCH..! It's a requirement of being alive. Some of the best work is done due to the broken heart. The Taj Mahall, some art, etc. > Clyde, I think you are a phoney, sure as hell. Vesta may. Me, I've seen some of this before. But it really doesn't matter. What matters is that we save your soul. Religious technology isn't there yet; but I'm not going to save your soul to trade in for valuable coupons... like some of the other religious clerics seem to want to do. (Save 5,000 souls and get free trip to Nirvana! Someone else says they offer a free get out of Hell card for only 2,000 souls.) Clyde, I just want to see you get better. IS IT GOING TO REQUIRE ME FIST FIGHTING PHARMACOLOGISTS AND MEDIA-ISTS, AND ELECTRICAL POWER-ISTS, AND POLITICISTS; AND REAL ESTATE-ISTS, ETC..? > > Week after week John has told you that you are less than small fry to the > government, no spying, for you, because you don't rate it. > > YES: TRUE..! > THOUGH YOU ALL DO NOT KNOW THE HALF OF THE HELL THAT I > HAVE RAISED ON THE AIRWAVES AND ON THE NET; WHICH IS > REFLECTIVE OF ALL OF THHE HELL THAT I HAVE GONE THROUGH > IN MY LIFE..! > FOR GOOD INTENTIONS THOUGH..! Clyde, not to worry. You're not the only crazy on the airwaves. I suspect most of the "Holy Rollers" evangelizing out there are crazier than you are! > Clyde, if you care so much about Tulsa and the problems there, why have you not become part of a council meeting that is open to the public??? > > YEAH: I WENT TO ONE OF THEM; AND MISSED THE ONE THAT WAS > TONIGHT, AT 7:00. > > I'VE GOTTA GO NEXT WEEK, AND MAKE MY VOICE HEARD; THOUGH > I ABSOLUTELY GOD DAMN HATE BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT..! Best way is to ask questions. Don't tell them, ask the questions so they have to think about it to answer you. OK; I DON'T WANT TO BE A PUBLIC SCENE; I HAVE DONE TOO MUCH OF THAT ALL GODDAMNED READY. > FUCK MONEY..! Gee, I thought the soviets said that. Look where it got them! OK; THEN WHAT??? I NEED EMPLOYMENT. I NEED MORE EDUCATION. I NEED MONEY TO DO IT ALL..! WHERE DOES MONEY COME FROM, WHEN I AM ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM ENDLESS STRUGGLE..? Money is important enough to study and track. OK; SO CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN HOW THAT IS DONE; EXPLAIN IT IN A NUTSHELL? > OVERTAXXXATION MUST BE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, BECAUSE ALL Nah., > HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE IN TULSA; AND IN AMERICA AS WELL..! Nah. I DON'T KNOW; YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT; THERE MAY NOT BE AN UPRISING HERE; THOUGH NONE OF US KNOW THE FUTURE FOR 100% CERTAINTY. > I SEE WASHINGTON D.C. GETTING LYNCH MOBBED IF THE FUCKING > POLITICIANS AND THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA GOVERNMENT DON'T QUIT > ALL OF THEIR GOD DAMNED SHIT..! Again, that view is a symptom of high adrenaline and low facts, little understanding of history. NO: I DO SEE WASHINGTON D.C. GETTING LYNCH MOBBED..! IF NOT ONLY LYNCH MOBBED; MAJOR TERRORISM FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN..! Relax. You're alive! That's more than a lot of people can say. Or could, if they were able to talk. We lost a few last night and the night before. OK: I NEED SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE; AND OXYGEN..! CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/df7ec67c/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 21:56:12 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 19 21:56:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <20060120041808.29913.qmail@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060120045612.45961.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> j s < creolescience@yahoo.com > wrote: You know, I joined this list to learn and interact with other "mad scientists " I DID TOO. IT IS TOO EASY TO STRAY OFF OF ALL OFF THE SUBJECTS OF SCIENCE..! AND THERE IS ALWAYS THE CASE OF TOO MANY PEOPLE WANTING TO TALK ALL AT ONCE; ALL AT THE SAME TIME. A MULTIPATHIC SCIENCE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE FORUM WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE; THOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE EASILY. but it really seems like every single message is Clyde hand-holding. HAND HOLDING? I'm at the point where I am ready to delete my membership. I GUESS I CAN DELETE MY MEMBERSHIP AS WELL..! AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR PLACE TO LIVE, TO BE HAPPY, AND TO DO BUSINESS COMMERCE, ETC, FOR EVERYONE OF US. Clyde, if you feel this stuff so strongly then why not put it on a blog and rant all you want, I ATTEMPTED TO START A BLOG. IT DIDN'T WORK; DUE TO COMPLICATED BULLSHIT INVOLVED WITH IT, THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. but please stop filling up our mailboxes with this self indulgent paranoia. SELF INDULGENT PARANOIA. THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. I JUST NEED TO SLOW DOWN. I am tired of the Tesla lyrics OK; I'M TIRED OF POSTING THEM. and how the government is watching you - SO F'ING WHAT..! AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE ***WE*** THE PEOPLE, ISN'T IT..? AT LEAST THAT'S THE HISTORY THAT I KNOW..! Even if its true, what does it have to do with this list? I JUST NEED(ED) HELP TO GET DOWN TO SOME NITTY GRITTY DETAILS. Or just get some therapy. THERAPY IS SOMEWHAT OF A PROBLEM; WHEN IT IS NOT 24/7..! There are places that have a descending scale based on your pay and most insurance companies cover treatment. SHRINKS. NO SERPENTS IN THE TREE OF LIFE..! And guys, if you want to help him or indulge this stuff , can't you take it off list and do it via personal emails or IMs and get this back to what its intended? WELL; YES; I AGREE; LET'S DISCUSS SCIENCE AND COOL STUFF..! I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE START. Respectfully but annoyed, YOU'RE NOT ALONE AT BEING ANNOYED..! I FEEL LIKE TOTALLY CLOSING MYSELF OFF FROM EVERYONE..! MAYBE I SHOULD SEAL MY OWN GODDAMNED AND MANDAMNED COFFIN..! Jeff --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060119/f758d8d8/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 20 01:10:28 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 20 01:10:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 15, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <20060120041808.29913.qmail@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j s" at Jan 19, 2006 08:18:08 PM Message-ID: <20060120081028.87238.qmail@mall-net.com> > You know, I joined this list to learn and interact with other "mad > scientists " but it really seems like every single message is Clyde > hand-holding. I'm at the point where I am ready to delete my > membership. I do see your point, and it is valid. It started out as short term help... In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say. And thank's to that, we did roll around on a few interesting topics like marketing, prescription drugs, magnetic brain entrainment, what makes a mad scientist mad, the meaning of life, etc. That, I suspect others will say was worth while. (Someone, say it!) But you know, before Clyde joined, there were a few posts now and then followed by _Months_ of silence. So he has done something. Quite a bit, actually. He is our mad scientist! > And guys, if you want to help him or indulge this stuff , >can't you take it off list and do it via personal emails or IMs and get > this back to what its intended? This is an excellent point. All Clyde has to do is to list several of us in the TO: spot on his e-mails. Myself, mbest, and maybe Vesta. Perhaps he will take the hint and do that for the less scientific stuff. BUT... the catch is Jeff, that YOU will have to make sure YOU post often! And I don't mean once a week, I mean every day or two if you persuade Clyde to leave the list. SOMEONE has to keep the traffic going! And of you take our traffic generator off line... It's your responsibility to keep the traffic coming. (Actually, it's all of our responsibility! But mailing lists seem to be a dying art of late. I'm on three major, long term lists, one of which is over 20 years old, and they are all dying. We need more mad members.) And what happens when you get into a serious bind? Will we be there for you? Hopefully you won't get into a bind like Clyde. Hopefully, none of us will. But... we are demonstrating our community spirit, interest in the aspects of life, science, and madness by discussing Clyde's issues and trying to relate them to issues we've seen in other scientists. (Or should a lot more!) it isn't unique to this list. I nearly died on another list, and they kept me going through some rather hard and painful times when I had kidney stones and an incompetent doctor who didn't understand what was really going on. (It was not enough salt, not not enough water!) So I am returning the favor. As Ghandi said, you have to be an example of the society you want. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 01:26:28 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 01:26:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I'LL HAVE TO REPLY MORE TO THIS E-MAIL TOMORROW. In-Reply-To: <20060118164603.25307.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060120082628.44368.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Please define for us as best you can, what would be serenity for you. > > ABSOLUTE PEACE; BOTH INSIDE OF MYSELF, AND OUTSIDE > OF MYSELF, SIMULTANEOUSLY..! But what is peace? WELL; PEACE RHYMES WITH THE WORD: PIECE, AND THE TWO WORDS CAN BE CONFUSED WITH ONE ANOTHER. I NEED TO CONSULT MY WEBSTERS DICITIONARY TO GET A BETTER DEFINITION OF THE WORD: PEACE. Absolute peace is death. NOT NECCESSARILY..! WHAT IF WE CAN ALL TAKE THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT CONCEPT, AND EASILY MODIFY IT..? MEGA LARGE SCALE P.V.C. PIPE - COIL WOUND - TO COMPLETELY IMMERSE ONES'SELF IN CONTROLLED E.L.F. AND CONTROLLED U.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FIELDS, USING AUDIO GENERATORS AND AUDIO AMPLIFIERS. SEEMS TO ME NOW TO BE A LINK BETWEEN THE M.K. ULTRA PROJECT, AND THE 'SO-CALLED' MONTAUK PROJECT; EVEN LINK BETWEEN ED LEEDSKALNIN AND THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT..!. Near-absolute peace is being in control of your life and doing nothing. NOT NECCESSARILY. That does not last! You need to do something that takes you forward. YES. But for a while, "nothing" is important as it lets your brain mull things over. OK. Decent peace is having enough control that you are able to pursue some of the things you enjoy, and get some reward from them. YEAH; I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT OF VERY VERY THICK AND SMALL WINDOWS; AND HAVE EXTERNAL HIGH DEFINITION VIDEO CAMERA'S, TO SURVEIL WHAT IS GOING ON, OUTSIDE. Chaos is where others drive you and you don't have time. TOO MUCH CHAOS IN TULSA..! TULSA IS AN ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL TOWN. I AM OUT OF CONTROL LIVING HERE; AND THIS CHAOTIC HELL SLUM TOWN HAS DICTATORIAL TYPE KONTROL OVER ME. > TO THE POINT OF LIVING IN A(N) 'NEARLY' ABSOLUTELY > PERFECTLY SELF SUFFICIENT, HERMETICALLY SEALED > EXISTANCE AND REALITY..! So, in your hermetic system, what produces oxygen? TOO BAD I CANNOT MAKE IT A REALITY; BUT FROM THE SPLITTING OF THE HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN BONDS, FROM WATER; TO USE ONLY THE OXYGEN PORTION, TO BREATHE, AND SAFELY BURNING THE HYDROGEN AT WILL, SEPERATELY. In a near-hermetic system, what brings you interests to pursue? WELL; IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PERMANENTLY REMAIN IN THAT HERMETIC SYSTEM CONTINUOUSLY. IT'D BE JUST LIKE A SMALL SCALE SPACESHIP, WHERE I WOULD HAVE AN AIRLOCK, WITH THE FREEWILL ABILITY TO CHOOSE TO GO OUT INTO THE WORLD, WHEN I WOULD WANT TO DO SO. THE ORIGINAL NINTENDO ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM GAME: METROID, WAS ALWAYS MY MOST FAVORITE OF ALL VIDEO GAMES EVER MADE: http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/artwork.htm http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/smart_ship.jpg http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sm/artwork.htm It's not just you, mostly it is others. You read and see things, talk to people. WELL YEAH. But more important, in a near-hermetic system, who satisfies you? WHY MY OWN PERSONAL PRIVATE INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE, OF COURSE..! Not yourself! You are not interesting enough to yourself to satisfy yourself for long. No one is. YOU ARE RIGHT..! Ultimately, most of us derive some satisfaction seeing others appreciate what we've done. Sometimes, it's just the questions we've asked. Other times it may be seeing others use the tools we've designed and made. But... mad or not, we are social animals. One does not have peace if someone is talking with us, or if someone expects something from us. PEACE AND SERENITY ARE NOT THE EXACT SAME. I'LL HAVE TO CONSULT WEBSTERS TOMORROW; IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME; TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TWO. But most of the time, it is the expectations and discussions OF OTHERS that validate our existance. YES; AND SO AN ABSOLUTE HERMETICALLY SEALED EXISTANCE AND REALITY WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR ME; UNLESS I WAS SLEEPING IN A CONTROLLED SLEEP TIME; OR IF I WAS HERMETICALLY CRYOGENICALLY SEALED UNTIL A FUTURE OPPORTUNE TIME, WHEN IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME TO GET UP AND TO GET OUT, AND TO LEAVE. Like you validating mine in this discussion, by making me think how to answer you in a meaningful way. YEAH; HOPE I'M DOING A BETTER JOB NOW, THAN I WAS IN THOSE OTHER E-MAILS. Or you, your mother's existance. I live to solve problems. Solving other people's problems, as long as they are not excessive, validates my existance. When I also get paid for that, it validates my finances! And I am not getting enough validation from others in the financial area. SAME HERE; THOUGH I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FACT IF I CAN..! MAYBE I SHOULD TALK TO GEORGE KAISER, OR SOME OTHER BANKING MILLIONAIRE OR BILLIONAIRE..? THOUGH GREED AND POPULATION KONTROL ARE THEIR # 1 AGENDA(S). So... who validates your existance? THAT IS UNIMPORTANT TO ME. Can you get more people to do so? MAYBE; MAYBE NOT; THERE IS THE MONEY ISSUE INVOLVED; AS BURT RUTAN AND THE PRIVATIZATION OF SPACE TRAVEL ISSUE IS CONCERNED..! CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/8d3e8a6c/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 01:36:26 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 01:36:31 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] MT HEART IS BLEEDING. Message-ID: <20060120083626.18569.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> MY HEART IS BLEEDING RIGHT NOW. AT LEAST THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT FEELS. I'M HAVING TO BE ULTRA ULTRA CONSEVATIVE WITH THE DRUG: CLONAZEPAM, BECAUSE MY FRIEND WHO SUGGESTED THAT I TRY IT, DIED FROM THE COMBINATION OF ABUSE OF CLONAZEPAM, AND FROM THE OVERWHELMING STRESS IN LIFE; THE SAME OVERWHELMING STRESS THAT I FEEL IN MY LIFE..! MY FRIEND DIED A YEAR AGO, LAST THURSDAY / FRIDAY ON JANUARY THE 13TH; WHICH JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE FRIDAY THE 13TH THIS YEAR (CALENDAR). CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/f1393d14/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 20 02:28:41 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 20 02:28:47 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I'LL HAVE TO REPLY MORE TO THIS E-MAIL TOMORROW. In-Reply-To: <20060120082628.44368.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 20, 2006 12:26:28 AM Message-ID: <20060120092841.48368.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Please define for us as best you can, what would be serenity for you. > > > > ABSOLUTE PEACE; BOTH INSIDE OF MYSELF, AND OUTSIDE > > OF MYSELF, SIMULTANEOUSLY..! > > But what is peace? > > WELL; PEACE RHYMES WITH THE WORD: PIECE, AND > THE TWO WORDS CAN BE CONFUSED WITH ONE ANOTHER. > I NEED TO CONSULT MY WEBSTERS DICITIONARY TO GET > A BETTER DEFINITION OF THE WORD: PEACE. So you really don't know what you want in terms of personal peace, it's just kind of a goal that should be better than what you have now. Ok, that's easy. But it's not absolute. The Greek philosophers said things exist in the absolute on some other plane of existance, and what we have here are just shadows of this other plane. Neurophysiologists and psychologists would differ, I think. What we have here is abstracted into the brain. The brain recognizes absolutes _as_ _if_ they exist, using them as models to embellish with what we see in reality. Less storage that way. > Absolute peace is death. > > NOT NECCESSARILY..! For all effective purposes. > WHAT IF WE CAN ALL TAKE THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE > ENTRAINMENT CONCEPT, AND EASILY MODIFY IT..? > MEGA LARGE SCALE P.V.C. PIPE - COIL WOUND - TO COMPLETELY > IMMERSE ONES'SELF IN CONTROLLED E.L.F. AND CONTROLLED > U.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FIELDS, USING AUDIO GENERATORS AND > AUDIO AMPLIFIERS. I think the sov's tried this. They wound up their Afghan soldiers this way, having them sleep under modulated microwaves. Helped remove the nasty little things called consciousness, humanity, etc. so they could fight as better fighting machines. A lot of them died because of that; their normal sensibilities just weren't there anymore, so they fought without restraint, dying without fear. Dying without the love of family, love of life that induces fear of losing life. Dehumanization! What makes a human unique? Is it not his fears, his desire to remain alive, his quest for better, safer ways of getting the goals accomplished? While the brain wave entrainment stuff is good to teach the brain some patterns, too much of anything isn't good for the spirit in the brain, the spirit called YOU! > Near-absolute peace is being in control of your life and doing > nothing. > > NOT NECCESSARILY. > > That does not last! You need to do something that takes you > forward. > > YES. > > But for a while, "nothing" is important as it lets your brain > mull things over. > > OK. It is vital to dream, for it is dreams that we use as ways of modeling and sometimes suggesting solutions to problems. Dreams inspire aspirations beyond mere respirations. > Decent peace is having enough control that you are able to pursue > some of the things you enjoy, and get some reward from them. > > YEAH; I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT OF VERY VERY > THICK AND SMALL WINDOWS; AND HAVE EXTERNAL HIGH > DEFINITION VIDEO CAMERA'S, TO SURVEIL WHAT IS GOING > ON, OUTSIDE. I've always wanted to build some robots with video cameras. I've had RC cars with video cameras, watching through the camera as I drove it about. But that's not life; not unless you are doing something like exploring where you can not go. > Chaos is where others drive you and you don't have time. > > TOO MUCH CHAOS IN TULSA..! > TULSA IS AN ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL TOWN. > I AM OUT OF CONTROL LIVING HERE; AND THIS CHAOTIC > HELL SLUM TOWN HAS DICTATORIAL TYPE KONTROL OVER > ME. I don't think so. An out of control town would be one where lots of people get robbed, beating up, and shot by hoodlums, where bank robbers visit often, and drunks "parade" in the streets. People control themselves. They make a town work. Very nice Western with Jimmy Stewart about that, some drunks shooting up the town, and him trying to quiet it down. He made some good movies. > > TO THE POINT OF LIVING IN A(N) 'NEARLY' ABSOLUTELY > > PERFECTLY SELF SUFFICIENT, HERMETICALLY SEALED > > EXISTANCE AND REALITY..! > > So, in your hermetic system, what produces oxygen? > > TOO BAD I CANNOT MAKE IT A REALITY; BUT FROM THE > SPLITTING OF THE HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN BONDS, FROM > WATER; TO USE ONLY THE OXYGEN PORTION, TO BREATHE, > AND SAFELY BURNING THE HYDROGEN AT WILL, SEPERATELY. Ah, but that takes a lot of energy. green plants and sunlight to it nicely, with some beauty. Esthetics, beauty... those warm our hearts. you need to see some beauty to warm your heart, Clyde. > In a near-hermetic system, what brings you interests to pursue? > > WELL; IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PERMANENTLY > REMAIN IN THAT HERMETIC SYSTEM CONTINUOUSLY. > IT'D BE JUST LIKE A SMALL SCALE SPACESHIP, WHERE I WOULD > HAVE AN AIRLOCK, WITH THE FREEWILL ABILITY TO CHOOSE > TO GO OUT INTO THE WORLD, WHEN I WOULD WANT TO DO SO. Ah, but you have that already, Clyde. It's your mind, your room... What you probably can't do well, is shut others out of your memories. When I was very young and had heard of flying saucers, I wold climb into my flying saucer at night, in my mind, relaxing and falling asleep before flying away. I would relax, start counting down as I felt my feet relaxing, moving up slowly till my head relaxed and I was at peace. Later in life, I would review some interesting problem before falling asleep, hoping it would be solved by the time I woke up. It would often take a few nights, but I would make interesting progress that way. > It's not just you, mostly it is others. You read and see things, talk to > people. > > WELL YEAH. > > But more important, in a near-hermetic system, who satisfies you? > > WHY MY OWN PERSONAL PRIVATE INTERSEGMENTAL > TRACTION TABLE, OF COURSE..! > > Not yourself! You are not interesting enough to yourself to satisfy > yourself for long. No one is. > > YOU ARE RIGHT..! > > Ultimately, most of us derive some satisfaction seeing others > appreciate what we've done. Sometimes, it's just the questions we've > asked. Other times it may be seeing others use the tools we've designed > and made. But... mad or not, we are social animals. One does not have > peace if someone is talking with us, or if someone expects something > from us. > > PEACE AND SERENITY ARE NOT THE EXACT SAME. No, they are not. > I'LL HAVE TO CONSULT WEBSTERS TOMORROW; IF THERE'S > ENOUGH TIME; TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN > THE TWO. It does not matter. What matters is that you know what YOU mean, and when you really know what you mean, then... you look for ways to describe it. > But most of the time, it is the expectations and discussions OF > OTHERS that validate our existance. > > YES; AND SO AN ABSOLUTE HERMETICALLY SEALED EXISTANCE > AND REALITY WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR ME; UNLESS I WAS > SLEEPING IN A CONTROLLED SLEEP TIME; OR IF I WAS > HERMETICALLY CRYOGENICALLY SEALED UNTIL A FUTURE > OPPORTUNE TIME, WHEN IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME TO GET > UP AND TO GET OUT, AND TO LEAVE. i wold not want to be locked up that way. My knowledge is decaying at a ferocious rate. (Not so much in my head or my books, as the field I am in accelerating, rendering me obsolete.) Niven had some interesting stories about this type of thing. Larry Niven, "Playgrounds of the Mind" I liked more of his books than those of other science fiction authors. > Like you validating mine in this discussion, by making me think how > to answer you in a meaningful way. > > YEAH; HOPE I'M DOING A BETTER JOB NOW, THAN I WAS IN > THOSE OTHER E-MAILS. As the other guy said, we ought to discuss more science; but also the philosophy which is behind us, drives us, and makes life worth living, I think. > Or you, your mother's existance. > > I live to solve problems. Solving other people's problems, as long > as they are not excessive, validates my existance. When I also get paid > for that, it validates my finances! And I am not getting enough > validation from others in the financial area. > > SAME HERE; THOUGH I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FACT IF I CAN..! > MAYBE I SHOULD TALK TO GEORGE KAISER, OR SOME OTHER > BANKING MILLIONAIRE OR BILLIONAIRE..? > THOUGH GREED AND POPULATION KONTROL ARE THEIR # 1 > AGENDA(S). Who Cares! If you dumped some of these rich guys on the street today, broke, they wouldn't have a clue as to what to do! What they can talk about today, their reality, is based on what they are doing today with umpteen million dollars, or what they did way back when in a different world to make money. They are not going to be much help. YOU have to try things... but evaluate them carefully for potential marketability before you try them. I liked Trump: The Apprentice. The real winners always tried to do some kind of market surveys to see what was more likely to work, more likely to appeal to a buyer. The losing teams rarely did! > So... who validates your existance? > > THAT IS UNIMPORTANT TO ME. No Clyde, it is why you exist. It is why you don't jump off some bridge. > Can you get more people to do so? > > MAYBE; MAYBE NOT; THERE IS THE MONEY ISSUE INVOLVED; > AS BURT RUTAN AND THE PRIVATIZATION OF SPACE TRAVEL > ISSUE IS CONCERNED..! Your solutions are closer to home, Clyde. Your solutions are You. Go read Niven, he's got some good books involving space travel. Larry Niven, Playgrounds of the Mind has excerpts of several of them. I met the guy at one Science Fiction Conference long ago. Fun stories! INSPIRING stories! Life is a ladder to be climbed. Don't tarry over long on one rung. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 07:49:52 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 07:50:08 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CADUCEUS / THOMAS JEFFERSON. Message-ID: <20060120144952.78941.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> THE CURSE OF THE CADUCEUS; SYMBOL OF DEATH; ETERNAL DEATH TO THE CADUCEUS; THE CADUCEUS CURSE; http://www.qnet.com/~abo/acts2/thecross.htm http://www.parkroadbaptist.org/sermons%2003/Covenant,%20Curse,%20and%20the%20Promise%20of%20Life.htm THOMAS JEFFERSON: I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF ALMIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN. THAT LIBERTY IS PURE, WHICH IS TO GO TO ALL, AND NOT TO THE FEW, OR THE RICH ALONE. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR MONEY, FIRST BY INFLATION, AND THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND CORPORATIONS THAT WILL GROW UP AROUND THEM (AROUND THE BANKS) , WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WILL WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED. http://home.att.net/~jrsc/jeff.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/67f7cc98/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 07:54:15 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 07:54:21 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MISTAKE CORRECTION; ) CADUCEUS / THOMAS JEFFERSON. Message-ID: <20060120145416.46055.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> THE CURSE OF THE CADUCEUS; SYMBOL OF DEATH; ETERNAL DEATH TO THE CADUCEUS; THE CADUCEUS CURSE; http://www.qnet.com/~abo/acts2/thecross.htm http://www.parkroadbaptist.org/sermons%2003/Covenant,%20Curse,%20and%20the%20Promise%20of%20Life.htm THOMAS JEFFERSON: I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF ALMIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN. THAT LIBERTY IS PURE, WHICH IS TO GO TO ALL, AND NOT TO THE FEW, OR THE RICH ALONE. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR MONEY, FIRST BY INFLATION, AND THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND CORPORATIONS THAT WILL GROW UP AROUND THEM (AROUND THE BANKS) , WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WILL WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED. http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jeff.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/aefe6f6f/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 08:30:51 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 08:31:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) CADUCEUS / THOMAS JEFFERSON. Message-ID: <20060120153051.50966.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: THE CURSE OF THE CADUCEUS; SYMBOL OF DEATH; ETERNAL DEATH TO THE CADUCEUS; THE CADUCEUS CURSE; http://www.qnet.com/~abo/acts2/thecross.htm http://www.parkroadbaptist.org/sermons%2003/Covenant,%20Curse,%20and%20the%20Promise%20of%20Life.htm THOMAS JEFFERSON: I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF ALMIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN. THAT LIBERTY IS PURE, WHICH IS TO GO TO ALL, AND NOT TO THE FEW, OR TO THE RICH ALONE. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR MONEY, FIRST BY INFLATION, AND THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND THE CORPORATIONS THAT WILL GROW UP AROUND THEM WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THAT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED. http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jeff.html --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/a2af5e9e/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 08:46:05 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 08:46:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (REVISED:) CADUCEUS / THOMAS JEFFERSON. Message-ID: <20060120154605.65527.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: THE CURSE OF THE CADUCEUS; SYMBOL OF DEATH; ETERNAL DEATH TO THE CADUCEUS; THE CADUCEUS CURSE; http://www.qnet.com/~abo/acts2/thecross.htm http://www.parkroadbaptist.org/sermons%2003/Covenant,%20Curse,%20and%20the%20Promise%20of%20Life.htm THOMAS JEFFERSON: I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF ALMIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN. THAT LIBERTY IS PURE, WHICH IS TO GO TO ALL, AND NOT TO THE FEW, OR TO THE RICH ALONE. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR MONEY, FIRST BY INFLATION, AND THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND THE CORPORATIONS THAT WILL GROW UP AROUND THEM WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THAT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED. http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jeff.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? 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(WHAT ARE YOU FEELING?) I'M FEELING WEAK NOW. (WHY WON'T YOU TALK TO ME?) I CAN'T SHOW MY WEAKNESS. (YOU NEVER TALK TO ME.) I SOMETIMES WONDER. (WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?) WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? (WHAT ARE YOU FEELING?) IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS. ALL WE NEED TO DO; IS MAKE SHURE WE KEEP TALKING. (WHY WON'T YOU TALK TO ME?) I FEEL LIKE I'M DROWNING. (YOU NEVER TALK TO ME.) YOU KNOW I CAN'T BREATHE NOW. (WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?) WE'RE GOING NOWHERE. (WHAT ARE YOU FEELING?) WE'RE GOING NOWHERE. (WHY WON'T YOU TALK TO ME?) YOU NEVER TALK TO ME. (WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?) (WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?) IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS. ALL WE NEED TO DO; IS MAKE SHURE, WE KEEP TALKING. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/c38cc2fb/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 19:54:41 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 20 19:54:46 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060120092841.48368.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060121025441.40956.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: So you really don't know what you want in terms of personal peace, it's just kind of a goal that should be better than what you have now. Ok, that's easy. But it's not absolute. 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. The Greek philosophers said things exist in the absolute on some other plane of existance, and what we have here are just shadows of this other plane. THAT SOUNDS LIKE NONSENSE. Neurophysiologists and psychologists would differ, I think. What we have here is abstracted into the brain. YEAH; I USED TO BE MORE OF A SPIRITUAL PERSON, UNTIL LIFE JUST STRESSED ME OUT SPIRITUALLY; AND SO I LOST MY SOUL I GUESS; OR SOMETHING.... I CAN COMPREHEND ABSOLUTE; THOUGH IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ABSOLUTE IS A CERTAIN REALITY. The brain recognizes absolutes _as_ _if_ they exist, using them as models to embellish with what we see in reality. Less storage that way. > Absolute peace is death. > > NOT NECCESSARILY..! For all effective purposes. > WHAT IF WE CAN ALL TAKE THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE > ENTRAINMENT CONCEPT, AND EASILY MODIFY IT..? > MEGA LARGE SCALE P.V.C. PIPE - COIL WOUND - TO COMPLETELY > IMMERSE ONES'SELF IN CONTROLLED E.L.F. AND CONTROLLED > U.L.F. AUDIO RADIO FIELDS, USING AUDIO GENERATORS AND > AUDIO AMPLIFIERS. I think the sov's tried this. HMM.... I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY; AND IF THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD HAVE HAD RUSSIAN ORIGINS; WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION ADOPTING IT, SINCE THE FALL OF BOTH THE IRON CURTAIN AND THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL..? They wound up their Afghan soldiers this way, having them sleep under modulated microwaves. Helped remove the nasty little things called consciousness, humanity, etc. so they could fight as better fighting machines. A lot of them died because of that; their normal sensibilities just weren't there anymore, so they fought without restraint, dying without fear. Dying without the love of family, love of life that induces fear of losing life. Dehumanization! YEP..! What makes a human unique? Is it not his fears, his desire to remain alive, his quest for better, safer ways of getting the goals accomplished? While the brain wave entrainment stuff is good to teach the brain some patterns, too much of anything isn't good for the spirit in the brain, the spirit called YOU! YEAH; I MIGHT JUST END UP ERASING MYSELF, SINCE ALL THAT I GET IS HELL FROM FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS. I AM TOO SENSITIVE OF A PERSON; SENSITIVITY IS ONE OF MY WEAKNESSES. It is vital to dream, for it is dreams that we use as ways of modeling and sometimes suggesting solutions to problems. Dreams inspire aspirations beyond mere respirations. OK; IT IS GOOD TO DREAM; THOUGH MONEY IS A SEEMINGLY EVER FLEETING PROBLEM; IF THAT MAKES SENSE WHAT I JUST TYPED. > Chaos is where others drive you and you don't have time. > > TOO MUCH CHAOS IN TULSA..! > TULSA IS AN ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL TOWN. > I AM OUT OF CONTROL LIVING HERE; AND THIS CHAOTIC > HELL SLUM TOWN HAS DICTATORIAL TYPE KONTROL OVER > ME. I don't think so. An out of control town would be one where lots of people get robbed, beating up, and shot by hoodlums, where bank robbers visit often, and drunks "parade" in the streets. WELL; TULSA IS THE HIGHEST CRIME SLUM, IN THE SHTATE OF OKLAHOMA..! People control themselves. I DON'T HAVE [ENOUGH] POSITIVE CONTROL OF MY EXISTANCE AND REALITY. They make a town work. Very nice Western with Jimmy Stewart about that, some drunks shooting up the town, and him trying to quiet it down. He made some good movies. JIMMY STEWART; I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS OR WAS. Ah, but that takes a lot of energy. Green plants and sunlight to it nicely, with some beauty. Aesthetics, beauty... those warm our hearts. You need to see some beauty to warm your heart, Clyde. YEAH; THIS HOUSE IS NO LONGER A HOME, WHERE I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE. IF I COULD ONLY GO TO THE CORAL CASTLE AND TO LOTUSLAND..! THOSE PLACES WOULD BE HOME TO ME..! > In a near-hermetic system, what brings you interests to pursue? > > WELL; IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PERMANENTLY > REMAIN IN THAT HERMETIC SYSTEM CONTINUOUSLY. > IT'D BE JUST LIKE A SMALL SCALE SPACESHIP, WHERE I WOULD > HAVE AN AIRLOCK, WITH THE FREEWILL ABILITY TO CHOOSE > TO GO OUT INTO THE WORLD, WHEN I WOULD WANT TO DO SO. Ah, but you have that already, Clyde. It's your mind, MY BROKEN MIND. your room... MY BROKEN HEART. What you probably can't do well, is shut others out of your memories. MY BROKEN HOME. When I was very young and had heard of flying saucers, I would climb into my flying saucer at night, in my mind, relaxing and falling asleep before flying away. I would relax, start counting down as I felt my feet relaxing, moving up slowly till my head relaxed and I was at peace. COOL. I YEARN TO BUILD A REAL MCCOY MICRO SPACESHIP; THOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES COME FROM, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. Later in life, I would review some interesting problem before falling asleep, hoping it would be solved by the time I woke up. It would often take a few nights, but I would make interesting progress that way. COOL. > PEACE AND SERENITY ARE NOT THE EXACT SAME. No, they are not. > > I'LL HAVE TO CONSULT WEBSTERS TOMORROW; IF THERE'S > ENOUGH TIME; TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN > THE TWO. > It does not matter. What matters is that you know what YOU mean, and when you really know what you mean, then... you look for ways to describe it. PEACE IS CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. SERENITY IS CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. > > SAME HERE; THOUGH I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FACT IF I CAN..! > MAYBE I SHOULD TALK TO GEORGE KAISER, OR SOME OTHER > BANKING MILLIONAIRE OR BILLIONAIRE..? > THOUGH GREED AND POPULATION KONTROL ARE THEIR # 1 > AGENDA(S). Who Cares! If you dumped some of these rich guys on the street today, broke, they wouldn't have a clue as to what to do! What they can talk about today, their reality, is based on what they are doing today with umpteen million dollars, or what they did way back when in a different world to make money. They are not going to be much help. YOU have to try things... but evaluate them carefully for potential marketability before you try them. LIKE MY TALKING CLOCK PROJECT; IT JUST MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK OUT..! I'LL BE GETTING THE RESULTS OF THE NASA / EMHART CONTEST, IN MARCH; THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH ANTICIPATION INTO IT; IF I DON'T COME OUT AS A WINNER. GRAND PRIZE IS: $20,000. I liked Trump: The Apprentice. I COULD NEVER GET INTO THAT SHOW; IT WAS BORING BULLSHIT TO ME. The real winners always tried to do some kind of market surveys to see what was more likely to work, more likely to appeal to a buyer. The losing teams rarely did! IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DOING THE MARKET SURVEY FOR THE TALKING CLOCK. > So... who validates your existance? > > THAT IS UNIMPORTANT TO ME. No Clyde, it is why you exist. It is why you don't jump off some bridge. > Can you get more people to do so? > > MAYBE; MAYBE NOT; THERE IS THE MONEY ISSUE INVOLVED; > AS BURT RUTAN AND THE PRIVATIZATION OF SPACE TRAVEL > ISSUE IS CONCERNED..! Your solutions are closer to home, Clyde. Your solutions are You. Go read Niven, he's got some good books involving space travel. Larry Niven, Playgrounds of the Mind has excerpts of several of them. I met the guy at one Science Fiction Conference long ago. Fun stories! INSPIRING stories! MAYBE THEY'RE AVAILABLE NOW IN AUDIO C.D. FORMAT? I DON'T READ BOOKS VERY WELL; THEY DON'T HOLD MY ATTENTION SPAN. Life is a ladder to be climbed. Don't tarry over long on one rung. OK. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060120/18b04c65/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jan 20 21:52:17 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jan 20 21:52:36 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121025441.40956.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 20, 2006 06:54:41 PM Message-ID: <20060121045218.37020.qmail@mall-net.com> > So you really don't know what you want in terms of personal peace, > 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. > 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. A Buddhist monk is content with the external. A scientist wants to understand the external. An engineer wants to change it. I am an engineer, Clyde. I want to change things. We are what we transform. Give an engineer some dirt and rock, and he will design a house, then try to build it. Give a Buddhist the same, and he will arrange the dirt and rock into a garden, yet have no home. Give a Western Man a birth, and he will transform first himself, and then much around him. Which are you? Which do you want to be? > HMM.... > I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES > TECHNOLOGY; AND IF THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD HAVE HAD > RUSSIAN ORIGINS; WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS > COMMISSION ADOPTING IT, SINCE THE FALL OF BOTH THE > IRON CURTAIN AND THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL..? Not worth your attention because you can not change it much. Worry about what you can change. Try to change what you can change for the better. Scope your attention to your abilities, that you get something done. > While the brain wave entrainment stuff is good to teach the brain > some patterns, too much of anything isn't good for the spirit in the > brain, the spirit called YOU! > > YEAH; I MIGHT JUST END UP ERASING MYSELF, SINCE ALL > THAT I GET IS HELL FROM FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS. > I AM TOO SENSITIVE OF A PERSON; SENSITIVITY IS ONE OF > MY WEAKNESSES. Erasing self? No more than transcendental meditation will. (Though I think that takes up too much of a person's brain space.) > > TOO MUCH CHAOS IN TULSA..! > WELL; TULSA IS THE HIGHEST CRIME SLUM, IN THE SHTATE OF > OKLAHOMA..! Probably less than New York City or Lost Angels. > People control themselves. > > I DON'T HAVE [ENOUGH] POSITIVE CONTROL OF MY > EXISTANCE AND REALITY. Harmony, not absolute. People at an orchestra play together in response to each other as well as the conductor. The conductor only sets the beat and adjusts volume of the different areas. > They make a town work. Very nice > Western with Jimmy Stewart about that, some drunks shooting up the town, > and him trying to quiet it down. He made some good movies. > > JIMMY STEWART; I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS OR WAS. Nice calm movie actor. He gave many of us quieter people a role model. Or at least, an example that it's ok to be a bit technical, out of sync with fashion, and just ourselves. he was just a good guy with a good heart. Ronald Reagan played a lot of similar roles, a good guy with a good heart who cares about other people. Hard to imagine Jimmy Stewart went from actor to Brigadier General in WW-II, and back to quiet actor again. He and Capra believed in America. They made some darned good movies with very few cuss words. Movies that warm your hear. > > WELL; IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PERMANENTLY > > REMAIN IN THAT HERMETIC SYSTEM CONTINUOUSLY. > Ah, but you have that already, Clyde. It's your mind, > > MY BROKEN MIND. > > your room... > > MY BROKEN HEART. Clyde, you just have to want, then try. It won't happen overnight. it's work, not magic. But if you do try, you might succeed. If you don't, well... we know that won't bring you anything, will it? And if you don't do anything, why are we trying to help you? What's there to validate our existance in your existance, huh? We like to see progress, improvements in you, in what you perceive around you, that we see our time is worth while helping you. > When I was very young and had heard of flying saucers, I would climb > into my flying saucer at night, in my mind, relaxing and falling asleep > before flying away. I would relax, start counting down as I felt my > feet relaxing, moving up slowly till my head relaxed and I was at peace. > > COOL. > I YEARN TO BUILD A REAL MCCOY MICRO SPACESHIP; THOUGH > I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES COME > FROM, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. Why build your dreams? Most dreams are just toys to model reality, to escape reality and look at it from a distance, to see how something might or night not fit, etc. Use dreams to abstract features and ideas you use more competently when awake. What you want, serenity and peace, are in your mind to find. Objects like a flying saucer won't bring them to you if you don't find them inside yourself. You need to build it inside your self first. And then, you don't need the crutch of the armor plated flying saucer. The Greeks had this theatrical device, Deus ex machina, an actor lowered upon the stage by ropes and pulleys, pretending to be the God who would clean up the mess. Now, we have learned to clean up our own messes, or hire a garbage man. Because we know it has fallen to us to clean up the mess, our mess. And sometimes... maybe God's mess too. (You think the dinosaurs lumbering around in the swamps weren't a mess???) > YOU have to try things... but evaluate them carefully for > potential marketability before you try them. > > LIKE MY TALKING CLOCK PROJECT; IT JUST MIGHT ACTUALLY > WORK OUT..! Clyde, the competition for that idea is too high. $39.95 beautiful talking clocks available. It's not new enough, not unique enough to be marketable. And you can't beat their price no matter how much you try using American parts and American labor. Move on. Find something you can do. Business is first about making money, because if you don't, you aren't in business long. The way to that money is making or re-selling something you can sell, market. With your limited abilities, the clock is just too expensive to make for your market. Look at me, I built something I couldn't market either. So what. I gave it the try, saw it wasn't going to make it, and cut my losses while looking for other ways, other things to do to make money. > I'LL BE GETTING THE RESULTS OF THE NASA / EMHART > CONTEST, IN MARCH; THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO > MUCH ANTICIPATION INTO IT; IF I DON'T COME OUT AS A WINNER. > GRAND PRIZE IS: $20,000. Would be nice... > I liked Trump: The Apprentice. > > I COULD NEVER GET INTO THAT SHOW; IT WAS BORING BULLSHIT > TO ME. Some of it is, but not all. many mistakes made, many things done right. Yes, politics, etc. > The real winners always tried to do some kind of market surveys to see > what was more likely to work, more likely to appeal to a buyer. The losing > teams rarely did! > > IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DOING THE MARKET SURVEY FOR > THE TALKING CLOCK. You don't have a market for that at that price. That's the first problem. It's a nice hobby item to fool with, don't get me wrong. Something you can show yourself your skills with, something you can be proud of having designed and made yourself. > Your solutions are closer to home, Clyde. Your solutions are You. > > Go read Niven, he's got some good books involving space travel. > Larry Niven, Playgrounds of the Mind has excerpts of several of them. I > met the guy at one Science Fiction Conference long ago. Fun stories! > INSPIRING stories! > > MAYBE THEY'RE AVAILABLE NOW IN AUDIO C.D. FORMAT? > I DON'T READ BOOKS VERY WELL; THEY DON'T HOLD MY > ATTENTION SPAN. Clyde, audio is worthless. I don't have the patience to sit and listen to talk radio, let alone talking books. If I'm not reading, sleeping or typing, I'm doing something else. Reading is interesting. Passive listening is BORING! Reading is imagining what is going on, imagining how things look, what's below the description level, what's next, etc. Listening is falling asleep! (And sometimes typing is falling asleep to, especially when I am starting to repeat myself.) -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 08:04:41 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 08:04:57 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..! In-Reply-To: <20060121035458.58830.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060121150441.25624.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> bonusjack < huricain@pacbell.net > wrote: I have morphine in 15 m.g. and 30 m.g. tabs. Will that do? PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE MORPHINE ISN'T IN PERPETUAL SUPPLY: EQUAL FOR EVERYONE: WITHOUT EXCEPTION..! AND THE SAME IS APPLICABLE TO SLEEPING GAS AND OXYGEN; DUE TO THE FUCKING GREEDY GODAMNED DOCTORS OF PHARMACOLOGY, AND THE GREED- -PHARMACOLOGY INDUSTRIAL KOMMPLEX. MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL: EQUALLY: START SEXUALLY EXPLOITING THE DOCTORS OF PHARMACOLOGY; THE MEDIA; THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY; THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY; THE ELECTRICAL POWER INDUSTRY; AND THE OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT: EQUALLY: AND GIVE THEM THE FUCKING AVENGE AND REVENGE THAT THEY ALL, SO DESERVE..! clyde lofton wrote: NEED: SLEEPING GAS, MORPHINE, AND OXYGEN..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/4468b0f9/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 09:01:24 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 09:01:44 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121045218.37020.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060121160124.51304.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > So you really don't know what you want in terms of personal peace, > > 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. > > 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. > A Buddhist monk is content with the external. A scientist wants to understand the external. An engineer wants to change it. THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL; A COMBINATION OF ALL THREE..! I am an engineer, Clyde. I want to change things. We are what we transform. Give an engineer some dirt and rock, and he will design a house, then try to build it. Give a Buddhist the same, and he will arrange the dirt and rock into a garden, yet have no home. IT'S STRANGE AND CRAZY; BUT I'VE ALWAYS SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE OF ALL THREE: (LIKE A) BUDDHIST, A SCIENTIST, AND AN ENGINEER. Give a Western Man a birth, and he will transform first himself, and then much around him. OK. Which are you? Which do you want to be? I'M FROM THE U.S.A. ; I'VE LIVED, AND HAVE GROWN UP IN THE U.S.A. SO I'M A WESTERNER. MY HEART AND SOUL ARE IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS; WITH LOT'S OF TREES SURROUNDING; WITH NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY EXISTING IN UNITY; AND LIKEWISE: HARMONY..! > HMM.... > I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES > TECHNOLOGY; AND IF THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD HAVE HAD > RUSSIAN ORIGINS; WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS > COMMISSION ADOPTING IT, SINCE THE FALL OF BOTH THE > IRON CURTAIN AND THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL..? Not worth your attention because you can not change it much. THE FEDERAL COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS TAKEN BEAST OVER POWERLINES FAR TOO FAR; MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AND MEDIA HAVE LOCKED FORCED NOW, WITH THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM, AND CABLE, TELEPHONE, CELL PHONE, AND ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID/S, TO ENSLAVE US ALL..! Worry about what you can change. Try to change what you can change for the better. Scope your attention to your abilities, that you get something done. OK. > While the brain wave entrainment stuff is good to teach the brain > some patterns, too much of anything isn't good for the spirit in the > brain, the spirit called YOU! > > YEAH; I MIGHT JUST END UP ERASING MYSELF, SINCE ALL > THAT I GET IS HELL FROM FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS. > I AM TOO SENSITIVE OF A PERSON; SENSITIVITY IS ONE OF > MY WEAKNESSES. Erasing self? No more than transcendental meditation will. (Though I think that takes up too much of a person's brain space.) OK. > > TOO MUCH CHAOS IN TULSA..! > WELL; TULSA IS THE HIGHEST CRIME SLUM, IN THE SHTATE OF > OKLAHOMA..! Probably less than New York City or Lost Angels. TULSA IS A COMBINATION OF INSANE AND OUTSANE: WITH EQUALITY..! I AM ABSOLUTELY SICK OF TULSA..! > People control themselves. > > I DON'T HAVE [ENOUGH] POSITIVE CONTROL OF MY > EXISTANCE AND REALITY. Harmony, not absolute. People at an orchestra play together in response to each other as well as the conductor. The conductor only sets the beat and adjusts volume of the different areas. RIGHT ON..! > They make a town work. Very nice. > Western with Jimmy Stewart about that, some drunks shooting up the town, > and him trying to quiet it down. He made some good movies. > > JIMMY STEWART; I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS OR WAS. Nice calm movie actor. He gave many of us quieter people a role model. Or at least, an example that it's ok to be a bit technical, out of sync with fashion, and just ourselves. he was just a good guy with a good heart. Ronald Reagan played a lot of similar roles, a good guy with a good heart who cares about other people. Hard to imagine Jimmy Stewart went from actor to Brigadier General in WW-II, and back to quiet actor again. He and Capra believed in America. They made some darned good movies with very few cuss words. Movies that warm your hear. COOL..! > Ah, but you have that already, Clyde. It's your mind, > > MY BROKEN MIND. > > your room... > > MY BROKEN HEART. Clyde, you just have to want, then try. It won't happen overnight. it's work, not magic. But if you do try, you might succeed. If you don't, well... we know that won't bring you anything, will it? RIGHT. And if you don't do anything, why are we trying to help you? What's there to validate our existance in your existance, huh? YOU'RE RIGHT..! We like to see progress, improvements in you, in what you perceive around you, that we see our time is worth while helping you. YES. > When I was very young and had heard of flying saucers, I would climb > into my flying saucer at night, in my mind, relaxing and falling asleep > before flying away. I would relax, start counting down as I felt my > feet relaxing, moving up slowly till my head relaxed and I was at peace. > > COOL. > I YEARN TO BUILD A REAL MCCOY MICRO SPACESHIP; THOUGH > I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES COME > FROM, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. Why build your dreams? IF DREAMS DO NOT BECOME FULFILLED; THEN PEOPLE, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE; JUST WITHER AND DIE..! Most dreams are just toys to model reality, YES. to escape reality and look at it from a distance, to see how something might or night not fit, etc. YES. Use dreams to abstract features and ideas you use more competently when awake. What you want, serenity and peace, are in your mind to find. Objects like a flying saucer won't bring them to you if you don't find them inside yourself. You need to build it inside your self first. EASIER SAID, AND EASIER MENTALLY ENVISIONED, THAN DONE; DUE TO SEEMINGLY FOREVER FINANCIAL AND OTHER IMPEDENCES..! And then, you don't need the crutch of the armor plated flying saucer. HMM.... OK. The Greeks had this theatrical device, Deus ex machina, an actor lowered upon the stage by ropes and pulleys, pretending to be the God who would clean up the mess. Now, we have learned to clean up our own messes, or hire a garbage man. Because we know it has fallen to us to clean up the mess, our mess. And sometimes... maybe God's mess too. YES..! GOD'S MESS, MANKIND'S MESS, AND EVERYONE'S FUCKING MESS: WITH EQUALITY..! FAMILY; NEIGHBORS; FRIENDS; WORKERS; CO-WORKERS; MEDIA; GOVERNMENT; ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC..! (You think the dinosaurs lumbering around in the swamps weren't a mess???) YES; WHAT A MESS..! > YOU have to try things... but evaluate them carefully for > potential marketability before you try them. > > LIKE MY TALKING CLOCK PROJECT; IT JUST MIGHT ACTUALLY > WORK OUT..! Clyde, the competition for that idea is too high. $39.95 beautiful talking clocks available. BULLSHIT AND HORSESHIT..! I REJECT COMMUNIST CRAPPUNIST CHINESE SHODDY CHEAP LABOR TRASH GARBAGE SHIT, IN THIS "FUCKED" COUNTRY..! It's not new enough, not unique enough to be marketable. HOGWASH..! And you can't beat their price no matter how much you try using American parts and American labor. Move on. Find something you can do. NO..! I REJECT RESORTING TO CHEAP LABOR CHINESE IMPORTED TRASH..! IT HAS TO BE A GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY AND AMERICAN INDUSTRY EFFORT..! HERE IN THE U.S.A. ..! > I liked Trump: The Apprentice. > > I COULD NEVER GET INTO THAT SHOW; IT WAS BORING BULLSHIT > TO ME. Some of it is, but not all. Many mistakes made, many things done right. Yes, politics, etc. POLITICS AND POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED EVERYTHING UP: FOR EVERYONE: ..! > The real winners always tried to do some kind of market surveys to see > what was more likely to work, more likely to appeal to a buyer. The losing > teams rarely did! > > IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DOING THE MARKET SURVEY FOR > THE TALKING CLOCK. You don't have a market for that at that price. That's the first problem. YES; I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED EVERY SINGLE MARKET..! It's something you can be proud of having designed and made yourself. DAMNED STRAIGHT I WILL BE PROUD OF IT..! > Your solutions are closer to home, Clyde. Your solutions are You. > > Go read Niven, he's got some good books involving space travel. > Larry Niven, Playgrounds of the Mind has excerpts of several of them. I > met the guy at one Science Fiction Conference long ago. Fun stories! > INSPIRING stories! > > MAYBE THEY'RE AVAILABLE NOW IN AUDIO C.D. FORMAT? > I DON'T READ BOOKS VERY WELL; THEY DON'T HOLD MY > ATTENTION SPAN. Clyde, audio is worthless. NONSENSE..! I don't have the patience to sit and listen to talk radio, let alone talking books. If I'm not reading, sleeping or typing, I'm doing something else. Reading is interesting. Passive listening is BORING! Reading is imagining what is going on, imagining how things look, what's below the description level, what's next, etc. Listening is falling asleep! (And sometimes typing is falling asleep to, especially when I am starting to repeat myself.) STRANGE; BECAUSE I'M A MIXTURE OF THE AUDIO, THE VISUAL, AND THE TEXT TRANSLATIONAL WAYS. I'M FUCKING ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM IT ALL, TOO. CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/d04c0ae6/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 09:06:24 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 09:06:36 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND). Message-ID: <20060121160624.77366.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND): OH YEAH YEAH. NAH NAH NAH. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS. THESE ARE THOUGHTS ALL THROUGH MY BRAIN; THAT I DAYDREAM EVERYDAY. I'M ALIVE AND WELL; RIGHT NOW, I'M ALIVE; I'M FEELING; WELL, IT'S MY LIFE TO LIVE MY WAY; SO I'LL KEEP DAYDREAMIN' AWAY. WHO KNOWS; MAYBE SOMEDAY, IT WILL ALL COME TRUE; AND I WILL GET MY WAY; AND WE WILL LIVE AS ONE..! I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH FOR IT ALL. NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY, THIS IS MY DREAM NOW. I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE. I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY. IT'S MY, DREAM. AH, WHAT CANNOT WILL BE DONE; FOR EVERY LIVIN' THING UNDER THE SUN. FORGET COLOR; FORGET RACE; AND JUST BE ONE BIG HAPPY FACE; AMONG THIS SEA OF PEOPLE; LIVE AMONG GOD'S CREATURES, SHARIN' LOVE; THAT WAS SENT DOWN FROM ABOVE; HERE TO SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER; FATHER, BROTHER, SISTER, MOTHER; EVERYBODY; SHARIN' LOVE; SHARIN' LOVE. I'M CAUGHT UP IN DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH FOR IT ALL. NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY; THIS IS MY DREAM NOW. I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE. I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY; IT'S MY DREAM; THIS IS MY DREAM. I CLOSE MY EYES; AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT. HERE IN MY FANTASY; LIVIN' IN HARMONY. MAKE MY DREAM COME ALIVE..! OH YEAH..! I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH FOR IT ALL. NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY; THIS IS MY DREAM NOW. I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS, SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE. I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY; IT'S MY DREAM. I'M CAUGHT UP IN A DREAM; I'M GONNA WISH FOR IT ALL. NO ONE'S GONNA TELL ME HOW; NO WAY; THIS IS MY DREAM NOW. I'M CAUGHT UP IN WHAT SEEMS; SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE; I AIN'T GONNA CHANGE A THING; NO WAY; IT'S MY DREAM. NOW, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS; THE WHOLE WORLD SHARIN' ONE BIG KISS. TAKE AWAY THE PAIN AND HURT; MAKE LIKE HEAVEN HERE ON EARTH; WITHOUT REASON TO DIE; AND GIVEN EVERLASTING LIFE TO ALL. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/fc5eb3a5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 21 10:33:24 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 21 10:33:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND). In-Reply-To: <20060121160624.77366.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 21, 2006 08:06:24 AM Message-ID: <20060121173324.45190.qmail@mall-net.com> > CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND): I thought you were going to stop posting lyrics? I never read them. Many people use lyrics as a short cut to real thinking. Not good. That's why so many people are screwed up. An amoeba, tiny single celled creature found n stagnant water, has a cell wall to keep other's instructions and chemicals out. We need to define our own space too, space for our mind and thoughts. That means keeping things like lyrics from interfering with our thoughts. That was a particularly bad problem for me in college when the proliferation of stereo sets blaring made it hard to do homework. Our brains need some empty space to think in, some space away from the incessant commercial advertisements that make you think you can't use the kitchen sink cleaner to clean the bathtub, but must purchase the same cleaner in different name and different colored bottle for the bathtub. No wonder why most people just can't think -- they've let the noises of maniacs program them into non-functionality, fill their brains with junk and empty their wallets for nonsense like worthless baubles from The Denver Mint, colorful bottles of diluted soap, etc. Try experiencing quiet for a few weeks, and maybe the peace and serenity will become more than a glimmer on your horizon. It just might become palpable. Worth the try, Clyde! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 10:33:35 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 10:33:44 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT OF HAND..! Message-ID: <20060121173335.17531.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> TO EVERYONE..! BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES IS GETTING TOO FAR OUT OF HAND..! CLYDE LOFTON JR. TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/5d9a97cd/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 10:59:06 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 10:59:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND). In-Reply-To: <20060121173324.45190.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060121175906.25961.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND): I thought you were going to stop posting lyrics? YEAH: I CAN STOP..! I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH OUTLETS THOUGH: FOR MY EMOTION/S..! the kitchen sink cleaner I NEED A CLEANER THAT WILL SANITIZE BOTH MY HEART AND MY SOUL..! No wonder why most people just can't think -- noises, fill their brains 60 CYCLES PER SECOND (C.P.S.) CONTINUOUS DUTY ELECTRO-MENTAL / ELECTRO-NEURAL NOISE OVERLOAD ENTRAINMENT..! Try experiencing quiet for a few weeks, and maybe the peace and serenity will become more than a glimmer on your horizon. It just might become palpable. Worth the try, Clyde! TO MOVE OUT TO THE BOONDOCKS, AND LIVE IN AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT METAL TANK: A CUSTOM FABRICATED TANK; BY SOME OIL TANK MANUFACTURING COMPANY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE..! THEN, AND ONLY THEN, CAN I GET ABSOLUTE PEACE AND QUIET FOR MYSELF..! IV'E GOT FAR FAR TO GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED MUCH ELECTRONEUROLOGICAL NOISE IN THIS ENPRISONMENT..! I NEED AN ATMO-SPHERE; AND AN AERO-SPHERE, ALL: ENTIRELY UNTO MY OWN..! ABSOLUTE TOTAL SILENCE UNTO MYSELF, AND TO MY OWN EXISTANCE AND REALITY; WITHOUT EXCEPTION..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/2e0174cc/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 21 11:25:12 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 21 11:25:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121160124.51304.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 21, 2006 08:01:24 AM Message-ID: <20060121182512.85309.qmail@mall-net.com> > > 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. > > 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. > > A Buddhist monk is content with the external. A scientist wants to > understand the external. An engineer wants to change it. > > THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL; A COMBINATION OF ALL > THREE..! Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. > I'M FROM THE U.S.A. ; I'VE LIVED, AND HAVE GROWN UP IN > THE U.S.A. > SO I'M A WESTERNER. > MY HEART AND SOUL ARE IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS; WITH > LOT'S OF TREES SURROUNDING; WITH NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY > EXISTING IN UNITY; AND LIKEWISE: HARMONY..! The only time technology exists in unity with nature is when it is rusting. Technology is method, thus acting against the flow of nature. Not necessarily much against it; but a ship does not travel the waters by drifting; it travels by opposing and pushing against the waters, against the winds, using the forces of wind against water to travel where man wants to go. Even tacking into the wind by playing the force of the wind in one direction against the resistance of the sea in another. This is the paradigm given us by "and God granted man dominion over animals" from the bible. > > I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES > Not worth your attention because you can not change it much. > > THE FEDERAL COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS TAKEN > BEAST OVER POWERLINES FAR TOO FAR; MILITARY INTELLIGENCE If you want to rant and rail about things you can not do anything about, why not go out to the street corner and spend your days in sack cloth like some rabid doomsayer? It's just as effective a consumer of your time and will get you known as a crackpot, and maybe even attract other crackpots; though they tend to be a bit anti-social. > AND MEDIA HAVE LOCKED FORCED NOW, WITH THE GLOBAL > POSITIONING SYSTEM, AND CABLE, TELEPHONE, CELL PHONE, > AND ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID/S, TO ENSLAVE US > ALL..! Not as far as I can tell. > Worry about what you can change. Try to change what you can change > for the better. Scope your attention to your abilities, that you get > something done. > > OK. Paste that on the wall by your desk. > > People control themselves. > > > > I DON'T HAVE [ENOUGH] POSITIVE CONTROL OF MY > > EXISTANCE AND REALITY. > > Harmony, not absolute. People at an orchestra play together in > response to each other as well as the conductor. The conductor only > sets the beat and adjusts volume of the different areas. > > RIGHT ON..! That means you need to look more at harmony in working with others around you. > Clyde, you just have to want, then try. It won't happen overnight. > it's work, not magic. But if you do try, you might succeed. If you > don't, well... we know that won't bring you anything, will it? > > RIGHT. > > And if you don't do anything, why are we trying to help you? > What's there to validate our existance in your existance, huh? > > YOU'RE RIGHT..! > > We like to see progress, improvements in you, in what you perceive > around you, that we see our time is worth while helping you. > > YES. > Why build your dreams? > > IF DREAMS DO NOT BECOME FULFILLED; THEN PEOPLE, NO > MATTER WHO THEY ARE; JUST WITHER AND DIE..! Those are aspirations, not dreams. Dreams tend to present few attributes. We use some of the ideas to build aspirations, to solve problems, etc. But most dreams too easily devolve into nightmares to trust without consciousness. "Forbidden Planet", nice old science fiction movie. A Great Alien Civilization created immense power and hooked it up to their minds. What they did not expect, was "monsters from the id", their fears and nightmares, being amplified and given power by these machines till they destroyed each other. > What you want, serenity and peace, are in your mind to find. > Objects like a flying saucer won't bring them to you if you don't find > them inside yourself. You need to build it inside your self first. > > EASIER SAID, AND EASIER MENTALLY ENVISIONED, THAN > DONE; DUE TO SEEMINGLY FOREVER FINANCIAL AND OTHER > IMPEDENCES..! Then they are not well envisioned. If you've got rock music or rap music echoing in tour mind, you can't think, can't abstract and see what you really want. What you really want isn't words, and certainly isn't the words of crack head rock artists, many of whom really are on drugs and are the grossest disrespectful egomaniacs of society, are foisting upon people whom they consider lower than slime. I mean, look a the expressions of their faces as they scream and rage on stage. Is that something you wish to be next to??? Could you work with someone who yells and screams like that? I know several people who worked in places where they had rock concerts. To them, the rock stars were the lowest forms of humanity for their deliberate and forceful disrespect for the facilities, which they trashed, their dressing rooms, which they trashed, etc. As a pre-teen, when I saw the faces and heard the lyrics of some of these new musicians like the Beatles, I was very disappointed. Mystified as to why others would listen to that lousy sounding music, the non-singing screams, etc. To me, Classical Music was beautiful. Then I saw how the next group yelled and screamed on stage... Animals! (Animals, monkeys, and I forget what the other simpler names were back then.) Then came trashing and screaming without any semblance of music. It was a festival of ugliness that I could not believe! And some of my contemporaries bought the records with their allowance??? When I got a job, I bought a stereo set. I bought classical records. I found there was an underground of classical enthusiasts, people who had tastes like mine. We hid from the maniacs of the world. They were more audio purists than I, spending vast sums on speakers, turntables, etc. to hear the subtlest of nuances in their classical records. I just wanted good music, and classical was it. But my ears are damaged from childhood fevers, so i always hear hissing, and spending $10,000 on a superb stereo just wasn't worth it. I like classical, the tunes are gentle, respectful. Maybe I can't hear every tone, but it's good enough. I am my own self, Clyde. I have a the cell wall like that of the amoeba which defines self from non-self. And for me, crap music is non-self. Try silence. Over the weeks, some portion of your problems will start going away. > The Greeks had this theatrical device, Deus ex machina, an actor > lowered upon the stage by ropes and pulleys, pretending to be the God > who would clean up the mess. > > Now, we have learned to clean up our own messes, or hire a garbage > man. Because we know it has fallen to us to clean up the mess, our > mess. And sometimes... maybe God's mess too. > > YES..! > GOD'S MESS, MANKIND'S MESS, AND EVERYONE'S FUCKING > MESS: WITH EQUALITY..! > FAMILY; NEIGHBORS; FRIENDS; WORKERS; CO-WORKERS; > MEDIA; GOVERNMENT; ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC..! Forget media and government. Clean up your own mess, the mess of noise that interferes with thought, and you will improve. > Clyde, the competition for that idea is too high. $39.95 beautiful > talking clocks available. > > BULLSHIT AND HORSESHIT..! > I REJECT COMMUNIST CRAPPUNIST CHINESE SHODDY CHEAP > LABOR TRASH GARBAGE SHIT, IN THIS "FUCKED" COUNTRY..! You want to waste your money, go ahead. But most people don't need the special features, and so won't pay the price. And you won't have cash for your other ideas. > POLITICS AND POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED EVERYTHING UP: > FOR EVERYONE: ..! Politics is the art of compromise. The art of getting people to agree enough to get things done. No politics, very little progress as people continue yelling and screaming at each other. > You don't have a market for that at that price. That's the first > problem. > > YES; I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED EVERY SINGLE MARKET..! A market is where people buy and sell, whether a place, or an overlapping range of prices and needs. You don't have the overlapping of the price and needs; not enough to make a living. > > Go read Niven, he's got some good books involving space travel. > > Larry Niven, Playgrounds of the Mind has excerpts of several of them. I > > met the guy at one Science Fiction Conference long ago. Fun stories! > > INSPIRING stories! > > > > MAYBE THEY'RE AVAILABLE NOW IN AUDIO C.D. FORMAT? > > I DON'T READ BOOKS VERY WELL; THEY DON'T HOLD MY > > ATTENTION SPAN. > > Clyde, audio is worthless. > > NONSENSE..! > > I don't have the patience to sit and listen to talk radio, let alone > talking books. If I'm not reading, sleeping or typing, I'm doing > something else. Reading is interesting. Passive listening is > BORING! Reading is imagining what is going on, imagining how > things look, what's below the description level, what's next, etc. > Listening is falling asleep! (And sometimes typing is falling > asleep to, especially when I am starting to repeat myself.) Good reading involves skipping back to points you were not sure of. It involves taking time to make sure you understand what happened before. It's a LOT harder to do on tape. > STRANGE; BECAUSE I'M A MIXTURE OF THE AUDIO, THE > VISUAL, AND THE TEXT TRANSLATIONAL WAYS. > I'M FUCKING ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM IT ALL, TOO. Yep. And if you spend all your time listening to trash noise some call music with loud headphones (Future Deaf Peoples of America), then that will be beating your adrenaline and wearing your brain out. Try the silence of meditation for a while See if silence can bring you the inner you. This will probably be the hardest experiment of your entire life, of you are a rock or rap noise and adrenaline addict. But it is worth life itself to try. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 21 15:29:59 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 21 15:30:05 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CAUGHT IN A DREAM; BY: TESLA (THE BAND). In-Reply-To: <20060121175906.25961.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 21, 2006 09:59:06 AM Message-ID: <20060121222959.57933.qmail@mall-net.com> > No wonder why most people just can't think -- noises, fill their brains > > 60 CYCLES PER SECOND (C.P.S.) CONTINUOUS DUTY > ELECTRO-MENTAL / ELECTRO-NEURAL NOISE OVERLOAD > ENTRAINMENT..! I was refering to rock and rap "music" as noise, a kind of mental pollution. > Try experiencing quiet for a few weeks, and maybe the peace and > serenity will become more than a glimmer on your horizon. It just might > become palpable. Worth the try, Clyde! > > TO MOVE OUT TO THE BOONDOCKS, AND LIVE IN AN ABSOLUTE > PERFECT METAL TANK: A CUSTOM FABRICATED TANK; BY > SOME OIL TANK MANUFACTURING COMPANY OUT THERE > SOMEWHERE..! No need to do that. Just unplug your stereo and headphone. > IV'E GOT FAR FAR TO GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED MUCH > ELECTRONEUROLOGICAL NOISE IN THIS ENPRISONMENT..! Which you contribute to by listening to rock and rap. Rap music alone is enough to produce many of your mental symptoms. > I NEED AN ATMO-SPHERE; AND AN AERO-SPHERE, ALL: ENTIRELY > UNTO MY OWN..! That is death. You don't want that. How about some progress, Clyde? How about you buy that camera and start looking for something interesting in your own yard? Plenty of stuff there. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sat Jan 21 15:33:14 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sat Jan 21 15:33:21 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121182512.85309.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060121223314.64557.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. > > 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. > > A Buddhist monk is content with the external. A scientist wants to > understand the external. An engineer wants to change it. Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. 1. CHRISTIST MONK. 2. AMATEUR SCIENTIST (EXPERIMENTIST). 3. AMATEUR ENGINEER (EXPERIMENTIST). > I'M FROM THE U.S.A. ; I'VE LIVED, AND HAVE GROWN UP IN > THE U.S.A. > SO I'M A WESTERNER. > MY HEART AND SOUL ARE IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS; WITH > LOT'S OF TREES SURROUNDING; WITH NATURE AND TECHNOLOGY > EXISTING IN UNITY; AND LIKEWISE: HARMONY..! The only time technology exists in unity with nature is when it is rusting. OLD AND RUSTED. Technology is method, thus acting against the flow of nature. Not necessarily much against it; but a ship does not travel the waters by drifting; it travels by opposing and pushing against the waters, against the winds, using the forces of wind against water to travel where man wants to go. Even tacking into the wind by playing the force of the wind in one direction against the resistance of the sea in another. This is the paradigm given us by "and God granted man dominion over animals" from the bible. OK. > THE FEDERAL COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS TAKEN > BEAST OVER POWERLINES FAR TOO FAR; MILITARY INTELLIGENCE If you want to rant and rail about things you can not do anything about. DOUBLE BLIND, AND SINGLE BLIND EXPERIMENTS ARE ALL THAT I CAN DO; BEING FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT..! Why not go out to the street corner and spend your days in sack cloth like some rabid doomsayer? WHY SHOULD I? > AND MEDIA HAVE LOCKED FORCED NOW, WITH THE GLOBAL > POSITIONING SYSTEM, AND CABLE, TELEPHONE, CELL PHONE, > AND ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID/S, TO ENSLAVE US > ALL..! Not as far as I can tell. OK. > Worry about what you can change. Try to change what you can change > for the better. Scope your attention to your abilities, that you get > something done. Paste that on the wall by your desk. OK. 1. OBSERVATION: AMERICA HAS BECOME AN ALIEN NATION. 2. QUESTION: HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; (AND/OR WE MAD SCIENTISTS) STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT CAUSING CIVIL WAR AMONGST US? > Harmony, not absolute. People at an orchestra play together in > response to each other as well as the conductor. The conductor only > sets the beat and adjusts volume of the different areas. > > RIGHT ON..! That means you need to look more at harmony in working with others around you. VERY DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE BECOME AN ALIEN NATION..! > IF DREAMS DO NOT BECOME FULFILLED; THEN PEOPLE, NO > MATTER WHO THEY ARE; JUST WITHER AND DIE..! Those are aspirations, not dreams. Dreams tend to present few attributes. We use some of the ideas to build aspirations, to solve problems, etc. But most dreams too easily devolve into nightmares to trust without consciousness. INTERESTING. "Forbidden Planet", nice old science fiction movie. A Great Alien Civilization created immense power and hooked it up to their minds. What they did not expect, was "monsters from the id", their fears and nightmares, being amplified and given power by these machines till they destroyed each other. IT WAS SUGGESTED TO ME A LONG TIME AGO, TO RENT AND WATCH THE MOVIE; FORBIDDEN PLANET. I STILL NEED TO DO THAT. > What you want, serenity and peace, are in your mind to find. > Objects like a flying saucer won't bring them to you if you don't find > them inside yourself. You need to build it inside your self first. > > EASIER SAID, AND EASIER MENTALLY ENVISIONED, THAN > DONE; DUE TO SEEMINGLY FOREVER FINANCIAL AND OTHER > IMPEDENCES..! Then they are not well envisioned. If you've got rock music or rap music echoing in tour mind, I mean, look a the expressions of their faces as they scream and rage on stage. Is that something you wish to be next to??? Could you work with someone who yells and screams like that? YEAH; I'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THE TRAGIC SIDE OF REALITY, TO WHERE I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ROCKERS; THE ROLLERS; THE RAPPERS; AND HEAVY METAL FOLKS ARE COMING FROM..! I ALSO LIKE SPECIFIC CLASSICAL MUSIC AS WELL; THOUGH NOT ALL CLASSICAL MUSIC; MOSTLY MOVIE SOUNTRACK CLASSICAL MUSIC, BECAUSE MOVIE SOUNDTRACK CLASSICAL MUSIC IS ALWAYS MORE ALIVE AND VIBRANT; AND THOUGHT AND IMAGINATION STIMULATING..! I LIKE SPECIFIC COUNTRY MUSIC TOO. MOST OF ALL; I LIKE EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONIC MUSIC; MUSIQUE CONCRETE..! THE MOST ESOTERIC EXPERIMENTAL OF THE ELECTRONIC MUSIC. When I got a job, I bought a stereo set. I bought classical records. I found there was an underground of classical enthusiasts, people who had tastes like mine. We hid from the maniacs of the world. They were more audio purists than I, OK. I WONDER IF AUDIO PURIST WOULD FIT ME VERY WELL..? spending vast sums on speakers, turntables, etc. to hear the subtlest of nuances in their classical records. I just wanted good music, and classical was it. But my ears are damaged from childhood fevers, so i always hear hissing, and spending $10,000 on a superb stereo just wasn't worth it. I like classical, the tunes are gentle, respectful. Maybe I can't hear every tone, but it's good enough. MY HEARING IS DAMAGED TO AN EXTENT, I THINK; THOUGH GOOD RESTFUL DEEP SLEEP SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO REJUVENATE THE HEARING; AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT MIGHT HELP IN THAT PROCESS OF REJUVENATION TOO; IF USED PROPERLY, AT THE RIGHT U.L.F. FREQUENCY, OR U.L.F. FREQUENCIES. Try silence. Over the weeks, some portion of your problems will start going away. SILENCE IN FOREVER GO NOWHERE SITUATIONS IS JUST AS DEAFENING, AS IS LISTENING TO ROCK AND RAP MUSIC AT LOUD VOLUMES, IN FOREVER GO NOWHERE SITUATIONS..! Forget media and government. Clean up your own mess, the mess of noise that interferes with thought, and you will improve. TOO BAD THAT THEY NOW SEEM TO HAVE BECOME ONE IN THE SAME DAMNED THING..! > BULLSHIT AND HORSESHIT..! > I REJECT COMMUNIST CRAPPUNIST CHINESE SHODDY CHEAP > LABOR TRASH GARBAGE SHIT, IN THIS "FUCKED" COUNTRY..! You want to waste your money, go ahead. But most people don't need the special features, and so won't pay the price. And you won't have cash for your other ideas. THE MARKET IS NOT FOR THE SALES OF THE CLOCK TECHNOLOGY TO THE MASSES OF PEOPLE; IT IS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE REASONS, BUT ISN'T NECCESSARILY FOR DIRECT SALES TO THE PUBLIC..! > POLITICS AND POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED EVERYTHING UP: > FOR EVERYONE: ..! Politics is the art of compromise. The art of getting people to agree enough to get things done. No politics, very little progress as people continue yelling and screaming at each other. TOO F'ING BAD THAT THAT IS WHAT MODERN AMERICA HAS BECOME..! THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ARE AT BLAH BLAH BLAH STALEMATE. I F'ING HATE POLITICS EVEN THOUGH I TALK ABOUT IT SO GOD DAMNED MUCH. IT INTERFERES SO GOD DAMNED MUCH WITH INNOVATION..! THAT IS WHY I AM ALWAYS SO F'ING PISSED OFF..! > YES; I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED EVERY SINGLE MARKET..! A market is where people buy and sell, whether a place, or an overlapping range of prices and needs. You don't have the overlapping of the price and needs; not enough to make a living. I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A LIVING, WITH THE TALKING CLOCK PROJECT..! I DO HOPE THAT I WILL BE A WINNER IN THE CONTEST. RATHER THAN GETTING ALL ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT THOUGH; I AM JUST GOING TO KEEP MY COOL; AND WILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN MARCH..! CONTEST WINNERS ARE TO BE ANNOUNCED IN MARCH. Good reading involves skipping back to points you were not sure of. It involves taking time to make sure you understand what happened before. It's a LOT harder to do on tape. I DISAGREE..! I CAN LEARN TREMENDOUSLY MORE; BY LISTENING TO AN AUDIO C.D. BOOK, THAN I CAN FROM A READING BOOK..! THOUGH TAPE BOOKS LIKE YOU MENTION THE WORD: TAPE ABOVE; HAVE BECOME OBSOLETE..! C.D.'S ARE WHAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS, IN THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD ON PLANET EARTH. > STRANGE; BECAUSE I'M A MIXTURE OF THE AUDIO, THE > VISUAL, AND THE TEXT TRANSLATIONAL WAYS. > I'M FUCKING ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED FROM IT ALL, TOO. Yep. And if you spend all your time listening to trash noise YOU CAN CLASSIFY ALL ROCK AND RAP MUSIC AS TRASH NOISE; BUT I DO NOT..! AND THERE IS A LOT OF IT THAT IS INSPIRING..! SO MANY PEOPLE 'ARE FORCED TO' HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT; DUE TO THEIR FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIFE..! THERE ARE SO FEW CHOICES, IN SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES. THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNGSTERS WHO HAVE SO MANY DREAMS, HIGHER ASPIRATIONS, AND GOALS; HOW DO I KNOW; BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE; AND I SEE THEM EVERYDAY..! SO MANY PEOPLE AND YOUNGSTERS..! LIFE MEANS SO MUCH..! then that will be beating your adrenaline and wearing your brain out. YEAH; ADRENALINE; THOUGH IT IS WEARING MY HEART OUT, MORE THAN IT IS, MY BRAIN. IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD AT ALL; TOO MUCH OVERWHELMING STRESS; DUE TO OVERZONATION, AND OVERTAXXXATION, ETC, WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..! TIME FOR ANOTHER BOSTON TEA PARTY IN AMERICA; AND THERE IS FEAR IN MYSELF ABOUT IT..! WILL IT BE A BLOODY BATTLE? POLITICAL BLOODSHED LOOKS MORE AND MORE ON THE HORIZON, IN THIS NOW SUPER DIVIDED COUNTRY, OF THE MODERN U.S.A. ..! Try the silence of meditation for a while See if silence can bring you the inner you. SILENCE AND MEDITATION AMONGST ENDLESS HIGH CURRENT HIGH VOLTAGE, AND HIGH PHOTONIC, ELECTRONEUROTIC NOISE? I CAN TRY; THOUGH I DON'T THINK I WILL HAVE ANY LUCK..! This will probably be the hardest experiment of your entire life, if you are a rock or rap noise and adrenaline addict. But it is worth life itself to try. YEAH; I DO ADMIT; I AM A ROCK AND RAP, AND OTHER MUSIC ADRENALINE ADDICT; AND I DESPERATELY NEED TO SLOW DOWN, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF ME, IF I DO NOT SLOW DOWN; THOUGH THAT IS RELATIVE, AS ALREADY MENTIONED ABOVE; TO FINANCIAL MATTERS IN EVERYONE'S LIVES..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060121/61203a8b/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Jan 21 16:10:23 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Jan 21 16:10:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121223314.64557.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 21, 2006 02:33:14 PM Message-ID: <20060121231023.77886.qmail@mall-net.com> > Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, > but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. > > 1. CHRISTIST MONK. > 2. AMATEUR SCIENTIST (EXPERIMENTIST). > 3. AMATEUR ENGINEER (EXPERIMENTIST). Too bad. This is a mad scientist's list, not a mad monk's list. I guess you belong elsewhere. > Technology is method, thus acting against the flow of nature. > Not necessarily much against it; but a ship does not travel the waters > by drifting; it travels by opposing and pushing against the waters, > against the winds, using the forces of wind against water to travel > where man wants to go. Even tacking into the wind by playing the force > of the wind in one direction against the resistance of the sea in > another. > > This is the paradigm given us by "and God granted man dominion over > animals" from the bible. > > OK. > > > THE FEDERAL COMMUNE-ICATIONS COMMISSARIAT HAS TAKEN > > BEAST OVER POWERLINES FAR TOO FAR; MILITARY INTELLIGENCE > > If you want to rant and rail about things you can not do anything > about. > > DOUBLE BLIND, AND SINGLE BLIND EXPERIMENTS ARE ALL > THAT I CAN DO; BEING FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT..! > > Why not go out to the street corner and spend your days in sack > cloth like some rabid doomsayer? > > WHY SHOULD I? That's what you are doing here, and it's not working. We don't appreciate it because we believe it not to be true. We, being scientists, demand evidence. You provide no evidence, just yelled claims that it must be so. We don't see why it should be so. > 1. OBSERVATION: AMERICA HAS BECOME AN ALIEN NATION. We've got a lot of aliens, but this is hardly an alien nation. I mean, my parents were aliens, but they became naturalized citizens. (European aliens, not space aliens.) > 2. QUESTION: HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES > OF AMERICA; (AND/OR WE MAD SCIENTISTS) STIMULATE THE > ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT CAUSING CIVIL WAR > AMONGST US? We are mad scientists. We usually don't care much about the economy. That's the Mad Economists group, which we don't understand. But that aside, we believe that our latest invention will create sufficient improvements in life that it will stimulate the economy, usually after some other bunch of mad managers gets fired for producing inferior products, monopolies, etc. Like Bill Gates, Rockefeller, The Arab Oil ministers and their cohorts in the oil companies, etc. > > Harmony, not absolute. People at an orchestra play together in > > response to each other as well as the conductor. The conductor only > > sets the beat and adjusts volume of the different areas. > > > > RIGHT ON..! > > That means you need to look more at harmony in working with others > around you. > > VERY DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE BECOME AN ALIEN NATION..! But we are not an alien nation. That's what you can't seem to understand. You are the one who is having trouble, not everyone. > "Forbidden Planet", nice old science fiction movie. A Great Alien > Civilization created immense power and hooked it up to their minds. What > they did not expect, was "monsters from the id", their fears and > nightmares, being amplified and given power by these machines till they > destroyed each other. > > IT WAS SUGGESTED TO ME A LONG TIME AGO, TO RENT > AND WATCH THE MOVIE; FORBIDDEN PLANET. > I STILL NEED TO DO THAT. This is a good day to do that. The rock/rap music people > I mean, look a the expressions of their faces as they scream and > rage on stage. Is that something you wish to be next to??? Could you > work with someone who yells and screams like that? > > YEAH; I'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THE TRAGIC SIDE OF REALITY, > TO WHERE I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ROCKERS; THE > ROLLERS; THE RAPPERS; AND HEAVY METAL FOLKS ARE > COMING FROM..! > I ALSO LIKE SPECIFIC CLASSICAL MUSIC AS WELL; THOUGH > NOT ALL CLASSICAL MUSIC; MOSTLY MOVIE SOUNTRACK > CLASSICAL MUSIC, BECAUSE MOVIE SOUNDTRACK CLASSICAL > MUSIC IS ALWAYS MORE ALIVE AND VIBRANT; AND THOUGHT > AND IMAGINATION STIMULATING..! You see how it works? The action of the video forced the writer to reflect it in the music. Constraints and the working within constraints. Like the narrow valley in which a gushing stream runs vs a flat broad valley in which a river slowly meanders. Harmony, respect with opposition, the constraint which brings focus to the energy. > I LIKE SPECIFIC COUNTRY MUSIC TOO. > MOST OF ALL; I LIKE EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONIC MUSIC; > MUSIQUE CONCRETE..! > THE MOST ESOTERIC EXPERIMENTAL OF THE ELECTRONIC MUSIC. > > When I got a job, I bought a stereo set. I bought classical > records. I found there was an underground of classical enthusiasts, > people who had tastes like mine. We hid from the maniacs of the world. > > They were more audio purists than I, > > OK. > I WONDER IF AUDIO PURIST WOULD FIT ME VERY WELL..? Most of these guys were run out of town by the trash pop records stores. The rents went up due to demand and they went out of business in the late 70's, then we got hit with stagflation from Carter's idiotic policies of trimming back research, research tax credits, etc. > classical, the tunes are gentle, respectful. Maybe I can't hear every > tone, but it's good enough. > > MY HEARING IS DAMAGED TO AN EXTENT, I THINK; THOUGH If you wore headphones and listened to rock music, you have ear damage, brain damage, and cultural damage. Too much rap music would easily explain your mental state. > GOOD RESTFUL DEEP SLEEP SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO REJUVENATE > THE HEARING; AND ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT > MIGHT HELP IN THAT PROCESS OF REJUVENATION TOO; IF USED > PROPERLY, AT THE RIGHT U.L.F. FREQUENCY, OR U.L.F. > FREQUENCIES. > > Try silence. Over the weeks, some portion of your problems will > start going away. > > SILENCE IN FOREVER GO NOWHERE SITUATIONS IS JUST AS > DEAFENING, AS IS LISTENING TO ROCK AND RAP MUSIC AT > LOUD VOLUMES, IN FOREVER GO NOWHERE SITUATIONS..! I take it from that that you do not intend to unplug your toxic brain damaging stereo set and let yourself exist in silence for two weeks. I'd say you are afraid you might recover. > Forget media and government. Clean up your own mess, the mess of > noise that interferes with thought, and you will improve. > > TOO BAD THAT THEY NOW SEEM TO HAVE BECOME ONE IN THE > SAME DAMNED THING..! Rap music will do that; but here is a decay effect, so you may yet recover. > THE MARKET IS NOT FOR THE SALES OF THE CLOCK TECHNOLOGY > TO THE MASSES OF PEOPLE; IT IS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE REASONS, > BUT ISN'T NECCESSARILY FOR DIRECT SALES TO THE PUBLIC..! They don't have the money. > > POLITICS AND POLITICIANS HAVE SCREWED EVERYTHING UP: > > FOR EVERYONE: ..! > > Politics is the art of compromise. The art of getting people to > agree enough to get things done. No politics, very little progress as > people continue yelling and screaming at each other. > > TOO F'ING BAD THAT THAT IS WHAT MODERN AMERICA HAS BECOME..! > THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ARE AT BLAH BLAH BLAH STALEMATE. > I F'ING HATE POLITICS EVEN THOUGH I TALK ABOUT IT SO GOD > DAMNED MUCH. > IT INTERFERES SO GOD DAMNED MUCH WITH INNOVATION..! > THAT IS WHY I AM ALWAYS SO F'ING PISSED OFF..! Ranting and railing against what you can not understand and hence can not change is a waste of time, yours and ours. > > YES; I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED EVERY SINGLE MARKET..! > > A market is where people buy and sell, whether a place, or an > overlapping range of prices and needs. You don't have the overlapping > of the price and needs; not enough to make a living. > > I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A LIVING, WITH THE TALKING CLOCK > PROJECT..! Making some money helps; you don't have enough to donate the clock. > Good reading involves skipping back to points you were not sure of. > It involves taking time to make sure you understand what happened > before. It's a LOT harder to do on tape. > > I DISAGREE..! > I CAN LEARN TREMENDOUSLY MORE; BY LISTENING TO AN > AUDIO C.D. BOOK, THAN I CAN FROM A READING BOOK..! University professors are the slowest readers of all. They turn the pages back and forth, read several books at a time to see how things contrast, etc. But they get a lot more out of what they read than most. Audio just doesn't cut it. > Yep. And if you spend all your time listening to trash noise > > YOU CAN CLASSIFY ALL ROCK AND RAP MUSIC AS TRASH > NOISE; BUT I DO NOT..! The themes in rap are mind screwing at best. They are presented at a speed at which the brain does not reflect upon what is coming in. Rap music often expresses the frustration and lack of comprehension that you do. Therefore me conclusion that your are suffering from near-terminal rap music overload. > then that will be beating your adrenaline and wearing your brain out. > > YEAH; ADRENALINE; THOUGH IT IS WEARING MY HEART OUT, the beat patterns of rock and rap make it worse. > TIME FOR ANOTHER BOSTON TEA PARTY IN AMERICA; AND > THERE IS FEAR IN MYSELF ABOUT IT..! > WILL IT BE A BLOODY BATTLE? They try that today, they would be in guantanamo fast as geronimo for terrorism. Only idiots and errorists try to go that route. It is the route of the unbrained, uneducated, uncaring. You have one or two people in a group who understand how to do things effectively. And the other 90 - 99 just want to have fun doing something like smashing things or creating a scene. The smashing and scenes work against the cause. > POLITICAL BLOODSHED LOOKS MORE AND MORE ON THE > HORIZON, IN THIS NOW SUPER DIVIDED COUNTRY, OF THE > MODERN U.S.A. ..! The country is not divided. You only see on the outside, what you have seething on the inside. > > Try the silence of meditation for a while See if silence can bring > you the inner you. > > SILENCE AND MEDITATION AMONGST ENDLESS HIGH CURRENT > HIGH VOLTAGE, AND HIGH PHOTONIC, ELECTRONEUROTIC NOISE? > I CAN TRY; THOUGH I DON'T THINK I WILL HAVE ANY LUCK..! No noise. Ignore the wires in the walls. > This will probably be the hardest experiment of your entire life, if > you are a rock or rap noise and adrenaline addict. But it is worth life > itself to try. > > YEAH; I DO ADMIT; I AM A ROCK AND RAP, AND OTHER MUSIC > ADRENALINE ADDICT; AND I DESPERATELY NEED TO SLOW DOWN, > BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF ME, IF I DO NOT SLOW > DOWN; > THOUGH THAT IS RELATIVE, AS ALREADY MENTIONED ABOVE; TO > FINANCIAL MATTERS IN EVERYONE'S LIVES..! So now we find the root cause of many of your problems. Rap music pollution of the brain. The nice thing is that it is curable. Stop listening to that crap. Get some easy classical stuff. But also, silence. Try to sit still and experience silence in your head. Still your mind for fifteen minutes each day. Don't listen to rap anymore. And in time, the smashing of your heart, the trashing of your mind should heal. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. 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Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/223c0188/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 11:07:52 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 11:08:01 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED AND REVISED: B.P.L. BULLSHIT..! In-Reply-To: <004701c61e88$7cc13460$6401a8c0@mikey> Message-ID: <20060122180752.89350.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> EDITED / REVISED: http://www.comtechnologies.com/ MIKE, I AM ABOUT TO REACH OUT AND PUNCH SOMEONE..! AND IT WILL NOT BE JUST ONE; IT WILL BE MANY...! NO ONE WANTS TO GET HURT; AND NEITHER DO I ..! HOW CAN THIS FUCKING GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED B.P.L. DESPOTISM PROBLEM BE FIXED..? JOHN PROBABLY CANNOT COMPREHEND THE CARRIER CURRENT TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED. HE KNOWS COMPUTER SCIENCE - NOT KNOWING THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF RADIO SCIENCE. CLYDE EDITED AND REVISED, BY MYSELF: *SHUTDOWN IMPERATIVE..! : ABSOLUTE REJECTION OF THE UNRESOLVED BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES ELECTRO- -NEUROTIC INTERFERENCE..!* "Because Comtechnologies http://www.comtechnologies.com/ has declined to do so voluntarily; It is imperative that the F.C.C. order the system to immediately cease operation, in accordance with ?15.5(c) of the Commission's rules," Imlay's letter concluded, "and that operation not resume, unless and until new hardware is installed that is capable of operating without causing harmful BIOLOGICAL interference." Less than a month ago, the League called on the F.C.C. to shut down the Manassas B.P.L. system in another strongly worded letter. That communication was in response to a November 30th letter from Casey, who'd suggested further cooperation between the complaining radio amateurs and the city-owned B.P.L. system. I QUESTION WHAT THE EXTENT OF THE TULSA OKLAHOMA SYSTEM IS..! THE MEDIA ARE JUST ASKING TO BE BLASTED; SUPPORTING TERRORISM, WITH ALL OF THE ENDLESS NEVERENDING NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA THAT THEY, AND 'WE' THE PEOPLE FEED UPON..! "These meetings have not produced any solution to the - BRAINWAVE..! - AND NEURAL ..! - interference problem, but have, instead, created the illusion that the problem is being addressed," Imlay charged in his reply. Ham radio complaints of interference from the B.P.L. system, date back to early 2004. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY; PEDOPHILE RADIO AMATEURS / THE SATURATION OF SOCIETY WITH ALL OF THE ENDLESS NEGATIVE MEDIA PROPAGANDA; AND WITH THE ADVENT, AND THE BOOMING EXPLOSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ON THE INTERNET; NEGATIVITY AND SEXUALITY COMBINED; BOTH, EQUALLY SELL LIKE WILDFIRE; AND EVERYONE IS BUYING..! I REJECT IT ALL..! CLYDE LOFTON JR. TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/22047a45/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 11:18:57 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 11:19:02 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED: QUESTION REGARDING LONGWAVES, AND THE POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID. Message-ID: <20060122181857.40418.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> EDITED: QUESTION: CAN THE HIGH POWERED LONGWAVES, PROPAGATED AND TRANSMITTED ON THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION GRID, BE USED CHAOTICALLY AND OTHERWISE, TO MANIPULATE AND / OR CONTROL THE WEATHER? SINCERELY, CLYDE LOFTON JR. TULSA, OKLAHOMA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/a2390bcd/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 22 11:26:18 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 22 11:26:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED AND REVISED: B.P.L. BULLSHIT..! In-Reply-To: <20060122180752.89350.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 22, 2006 10:07:52 AM Message-ID: <20060122182618.70561.qmail@mall-net.com> > I AM ABOUT TO REACH OUT AND PUNCH SOMEONE..! > AND IT WILL NOT BE JUST ONE; IT WILL BE MANY...! > NO ONE WANTS TO GET HURT; AND NEITHER DO I ..! > HOW CAN THIS FUCKING GOD DAMNED AND MAN > DAMNED B.P.L. DESPOTISM PROBLEM BE FIXED..? > JOHN PROBABLY CANNOT COMPREHEND THE > CARRIER CURRENT TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED. > HE KNOWS COMPUTER SCIENCE - NOT KNOWING > THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF RADIO SCIENCE. I do know about this. My father and several friends are ham radio operators. So is Mike. Ham radio operators worked hard up here helping coordinate many fire departments in a fire here several years ago. Ham radio incites the curiosity, causes young kids to learn about technology and become competent engineers. By interfering with world radio communications bands it isolates the people of the United States, prevents ham radio communications, etc. It may even block Vatican Radio, so some may look upon it as another arm of evil. (It's just another arm trying to reach into your pocket to extract a few nickels.) However, to think this is being used to jam your brain, promote pedophilia, etc. is a bit much. And saying so just helps others brand ALL the complainers as nut cases. Petitions to the FCC are suggested. I know some efforts are ongoing; but appear not to be successful. The key is to get the common man to recognize what radio amateurs have done and can do for him in a crisis, and how the FCC's lack of assistance is destroying a valuable hobby and a valuable national resource. The common man is the key. He always is. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 22 11:31:07 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 22 11:31:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED: QUESTION REGARDING LONGWAVES,\ In-Reply-To: <20060122181857.40418.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 22, 2006 10:18:57 AM Message-ID: <20060122183107.73688.qmail@mall-net.com> > CAN THE HIGH POWERED LONGWAVES, > PROPAGATED AND TRANSMITTED ON > THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION > GRID, BE USED CHAOTICALLY AND > OTHERWISE, TO MANIPULATE AND / OR > CONTROL THE WEATHER? We do not believe this is possible for two reasons. First, bucking the existing 60hz fields would disrupt many, many things ranging from clocks to triggering massive power failures as phase relationships broke. Second, the immense amounts of energy to buck the 60hz fields would be an appreciable part of the GNP. The soviets spent a large part of their military budget sending radio waves over the horizon, and that didn't do much for the weather. So this is basically unlikely, either overtly or covertly. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 11:34:33 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 11:34:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)? Message-ID: <20060122183433.75797.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> REVISED: THE DAMNED BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES ISSUE HAS BEEN TAKEN TOO FAR FOR THE BRAINDEAD AMERICAN PUBLIC..! 1. WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)..? 2. DID BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES ORIGINATE WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS ENGINEERS, AND THE THOUGHT POLICE, OF COMMUNIST RUSSIA; AND WAS ADOLF HITLER KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL..? 3. WAS BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY BEING USED AGAINST PEOPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES, BEFORE THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION, OR DID IT BEGIN WITH THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION..? 4. WHERE IS THE BRIDGE LINK, BETWEEN M.K. ULTRA, AND THE MONTAUK PROJECT..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/9b6a0397/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 14:33:44 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 14:33:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS, AND AMERICANS: Message-ID: <20060122213344.92885.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> TO ALL CONCERNED OKLAHOMANS, AND AMERICANS: WE THE PEOPLE, OF TULSA COUNTY OKLAHOMA, AND OF ALL OF THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, AND OF ALL AMERICAN STATES; AS ALL AMERICANS TOGETHER, HAVE GOT TO START KEEPING ABSOLUTE TABS ON THE CONTENT OF OUR TAP WATER SUPPLIES - HOLDING THOSE WHO WE PUT IN CHARGE OF THE CARE AND OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR TAP WATER SUPPLIES, TO THE MOST ABSOLUTE HIGHEST ACCOUNTABILITY THAT IS POSSIBLE..! EACH AND EVERY GOVERNING OFFICIAL OF OURS IS HELD EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROCESS OF SIMPLIFICATION - FOR THE PROCESS OF MAKING KNOWN - THE DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY, AND ANNUAL INTEGRITY OF OUR MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES - FOR THE ESTABLISHING OF THE PERMANENCE OF A HIGH INTEGRITY QUALITY WATER STANDARD, FOR EVERYONE OF ALL OF US - EQUALLY..! --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/74defc93/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 14:57:53 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 14:58:01 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: CHANGING TULSA / CHANGING OKLAHOMA / CHANGING AMERICA; FOR THE POSITIVE BETTER..! In-Reply-To: <20060121182512.85309.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060122215753.36618.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > 1. PEACE: CONTENTMENT WITH THE EXTERNAL. > > 2. SERENITY: CONTENTMENT WITH THE INTERNAL. > > A Buddhist monk is content with the external. A scientist wants to > understand the external. An engineer wants to change it. > Worry about what you can change. Try to change what you can change > for the better. Scope your attention to your abilities, that you get > something done. Paste that on the wall by your desk. 1. OBSERVATION: AMERICA HAS BECOME AN ALIEN NATION. 2. QUESTION: HOW DO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; (AND/OR WE MAD SCIENTISTS) STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF THIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT CAUSING CIVIL WAR AMONGST US? --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/39616306/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 15:58:09 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 15:58:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060121231023.77886.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060122225809.49366.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, > but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. FINANCIAL; ECONOMIC; ECOLOGICAL; SOCIAL; AND SEXUAL SLAVERY ARE # 1 PROBLEMS IN MY LIFE..! NOT TO SAY THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE; BECAUSE I AM ABSOLUTELY FAR FROM BEING THE ONLY ONE IN THIS CURSED WORLD, WHO IS CURSED..! > 1. CHRISTIST MONK. > 2. AMATEUR SCIENTIST (EXPERIMENTIST). > 3. AMATEUR ENGINEER (EXPERIMENTIST). Too bad this is a mad scientist's list, and not a mad monk's list. I guess you belong elsewhere. TOO BAD I'M NOT A MONK, AND THAT I'M CLOSER TO BEING A HIPPY..! I ENJOY EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE; THE EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE PROJECTS THAT HAVE PROMISE FOR ALL OF US; PROJECTS WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY DO THE HANDS ON WORK; WHEN ALL OF THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS ASSHOLE JERKS; WITHOUT NAMING NAMES; WHEN THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS PEOPLE WHO ENDLESSLY FUCK WITH ME ARE NOT FUCKING WITH ME; WHEN THEY ARE LEAVING ME ALONE, WHEN THEY ARE LETTING ME BE; WHEN THEY ARE LETTING ME BE ME; WHEN THEY ARE LETTING ME BE FREE; WHEN THEY ARE LETTING ME BREATHE..! AND I CAN ASSURE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE BEEN FUCKING WITH ME, THAT I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL; THOUGH THE L.P.F.M. STATION IS IN THE GREY AREA OF BEING NEITHER LEGAL NOR ILLEGAL; SINCE OUR AIRWAVES STILL BELONG TO *WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA*..! AND THOUGH TULSA OKLAHOMA IS FAR FAR WAY WAY TOO OVERZONED AND OVERATAXXXED, WITH ABSOLUTE ZERO IF ANY REPRESENTATION FROM ANY OF THE OFFICIALS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO GOVERN ALL OF US WITH EQUALITY..! ; THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MAD SCIENTISTS LIST; NOT THE LOSER SCIENTISTS LIST..! WE ARE CHAMPIONS OVER ALL OF THE ENDLESS GOD DAMNED AND MAN DAMNED SHIT THAT IS 'SEEMINGLY' ENDLESSLY PILED UP ON TOP OF ALL OF US; BY THE FUCKING POWERS THAT BE..! THAT IS THE REASON WHY I GO; AND WHY I KEEP ON GOING; THE REASON WHY I HAVE FILLED UP THIS WEBSITE WITH SO MUCH CONTENT; BECAUSE IT WAS MOSTLY EMPTY WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE LIST..! THOUGH NOT ALL OF WHAT I HAVE SHARED IS SCIENTIFIC IN NATURE; I HAVE TRIED TO DO THE ABSOLUTE BEST THAT I CAN DO..! CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/adb45920/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 16:26:05 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 16:26:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED AND REVISED: B.P.L. BULLSHIT..! In-Reply-To: <20060122182618.70561.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060122232605.545.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I AM ABOUT TO REACH OUT AND PUNCH SOMEONE..! > AND IT WILL NOT BE JUST ONE; IT WILL BE MANY...! > NO ONE WANTS TO GET HURT; AND NEITHER DO I ..! > HOW CAN THIS FUCKING GOD DAMNED AND MAN > DAMNED B.P.L. DESPOTISM PROBLEM BE FIXED..? > JOHN PROBABLY CANNOT COMPREHEND THE > CARRIER CURRENT TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED. > HE KNOWS COMPUTER SCIENCE - NOT KNOWING > THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF RADIO SCIENCE. I do know about this. My father and several friends are ham radio operators. So is Mike. WERE YOU AWARE THAT I A HAM TOO..? Ham radio operators worked hard up here helping coordinate many fire departments in a fire MYSELF, AS I AM; CUAGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE OF THE BROADCAST INDUSTRY AND THE POLITICAL WARZONE..! I REJECT THE WAR THOUGH..! here several years ago. Ham radio incites the curiosity, causes young kids to learn about technology and become competent engineers. By interfering with world radio communications bands it isolates the people of the United States, prevents ham radio communications, etc. YES; THE REASON FOR THE FURY BEHIND THE HAMS FIGHTING B.P.L. ..! It may even block Vatican Radio, so some may look upon it as another arm of evil. YES; IT CAN BLOCK VATICAN RADIO..! (It's just another arm trying to reach into your pocket to extract a few nickels.) YES. However, to think this is being used to jam your brain, promote pedophilia, etc. is a bit much. And saying so just helps others brand ALL the complainers as nut cases. EVIDENTLY YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I TYPED..! 1. IT IS NOT BEING USED TO JAM MY BRAIN. 2. IT IS NOT BEING USED TO PROMOTE PEDOPHILIA..! AND; 3. IT IS NOT MAKING THE COMPLAINERS, NUTCASES..! Petitions to the FCC are suggested. YES; I FINALLY PUT IN MY PETITIONS TO THE F.C.C. GOVERNING OFFICIALS YESTERDAY, AFTER HESITATING TO DO IT FOR SO LONG NOW. THE PETITIONING IS LONG OVERDUE, FOR ALL PEOPLE; INCLUDING ALL BRAINDEAD - MEDIA HYPNOTIZED AMERICANS..! I know some efforts are ongoing; but appear not to be successful. YEAH; THE COMMIE LEFTISTS AND THE NAZI THEOCRAZY RIGHTISTS SEEM TO BE DOING UNDER THE TABLE GOINGS ON, WITH B.P.L. ..! The key is to get the common man to recognize what radio amateurs have done and can do for him in a crisis, and how the FCC's lack of assistance is destroying a valuable hobby and a valuable national resource. YES..! AMEN TO THAT..! THE F.C.C. HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF CORPORATE GEEKS WHO ARE NOT ENGINEERS..! The common man is the key. He always is. DAMNED STRAIGHT..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/9de0f15d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 19:22:46 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 22 19:22:53 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED: QUESTION REGARDING LONGWAVES,\ In-Reply-To: <20060122183107.73688.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060123022246.1279.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > CAN THE HIGH POWERED LONGWAVES, > PROPAGATED AND TRANSMITTED ON > THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION > GRID, BE USED CHAOTICALLY AND > OTHERWISE, TO MANIPULATE AND / OR > CONTROL THE WEATHER? We do not believe this is possible for two reasons. WHO IS WE? ALL SCIENTISTS IN GENERAL? First, bucking the existing 60hz fields would disrupt many, many things ranging from clocks to triggering massive power failures as phase relationships broke. WELL THERE ARE SWITCHING RELAYS; THOUGH I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH EFFECT WHEN LINES ARE INTERRUPTED AND SWITCHED, TO HAVE ANY MARKED EFFECT ON THE WEATHER; BUT I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT. Second, the immense amounts of energy to buck the 60hz fields would be an appreciable part of the GNP. TRUE. The soviets spent a large part of their military budget sending radio waves over the horizon, and that didn't do much for the weather. RADIO WAVES AT WHAT FREQUENCY? WHAT FREQUENCIES ARE YOU REFERRING TO? HIGH FREQUENCIES, ABOVE THE AUDIO FREQUENCY SPECTRUM? So this is basically unlikely, either overtly or covertly. GOOD POINTS. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060122/2acc951b/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 22 22:03:41 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 22 22:03:46 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] EDITED: QUESTION REGARDING LONGWAVES,\ In-Reply-To: <20060123022246.1279.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 22, 2006 06:22:46 PM Message-ID: <20060123050341.106.qmail@mall-net.com> > > CAN THE HIGH POWERED LONGWAVES, > > PROPAGATED AND TRANSMITTED ON > > THE ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION > > GRID, BE USED CHAOTICALLY AND > > OTHERWISE, TO MANIPULATE AND / OR > > CONTROL THE WEATHER? > > We do not believe this is possible for two reasons. > > WHO IS WE? > ALL SCIENTISTS IN GENERAL? This is based on what I have read on the topic, various science items, etc. over the years There seems to be no indication that scientists believe, or are even interested in this type of thing. > First, bucking the existing 60hz fields would disrupt many, many > things ranging from clocks to triggering massive power failures as > phase relationships broke. > > WELL THERE ARE SWITCHING RELAYS; THOUGH I DON'T > THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH EFFECT > WHEN LINES ARE INTERRUPTED AND SWITCHED, TO HAVE > ANY MARKED EFFECT ON THE WEATHER; BUT I COULD BE > WRONG ABOUT THAT. Yes, but to do anything, one has to either play with current or voltage or timing. If you screw with current... what absorbs the power? Who pays for the power??? If you screw with voltage, you blow out appliances. Consumers get Very, Very Irate! Public Utilities Commission gets on the case Real Soon! If you screw with timing, you create phase ripples which will start creating excess differentials. This then causes a tearing of the wave surface, as in breakers blowing, the resonant heart of the power grid shifting, all kinds of chaos of the type that one sees when one has a cascading power failure across a wide area. The other thing is that this system is mostly rotating generators. As in, if you want th mess with the thing, you have got to rapidly slow and speed umpteen tons of copper coils located all across the USA and Canada! And do this synchronously. This, as you may imagine, is not a trivial task. So basically, no one wants to screw with the power lines lest they really screw themselves and all their customers. I mean, the entire power grid is built with resonance taken into consideration, even if no one really calls it resonance. All the cross connects have to be in phase! Else, as I said, one gets a tearing of the phase surface by those cross-connects popping big breakers, burning high tension lines, etc. They have seen some of this with large lines getting hot enough to sag! So the bottom line is that if you want your bottom line in the black, you don't mess with the power system. > Second, the immense amounts of energy to buck the 60hz fields > would be an appreciable part of the GNP. > > TRUE. > > The soviets spent a large part of their military budget sending radio > waves over the horizon, and that didn't do much for the weather. > > RADIO WAVES AT WHAT FREQUENCY? > WHAT FREQUENCIES ARE YOU REFERRING TO? > HIGH FREQUENCIES, ABOVE THE AUDIO FREQUENCY > SPECTRUM? The sovs did some rather innovating things. They had "warblers", large radio stations broadcasting pulses of RF which, though sounding more or less alike, had timing differences in the pulses so that one could determine which pulse had been recieved in reflection. They were broadcasting these pulses, broadcasting different pulses from different sources, then analyzing the reflections BY HAND! Teams of people with slide rules and calculators!!! Basic premiss is that if an airplane takes off, it will reflect weakly. By identifying reflection timings -- which you can do as your reflections are identification codes, you can figure out where that new reflection is coming from. In a little time, you can see what direction it is flying it. Then look that up against routine airline flights, etc. etc. etc. and see what is going on. This was, of course, in direct contravention to many treaties regarding over the horizon radar. But they didn't care about treaties, just as long as no one objected. And when someone did... they always accused the objector of violating them. > So this is basically unlikely, either overtly or covertly. > > GOOD POINTS. Thankyou. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 22 23:19:29 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 22 23:19:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060122225809.49366.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 22, 2006 02:58:09 PM Message-ID: <20060123061929.39715.qmail@mall-net.com> > > Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, > > but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. > > FINANCIAL; ECONOMIC; ECOLOGICAL; SOCIAL; AND > SEXUAL SLAVERY ARE # 1 PROBLEMS IN MY LIFE..! Um... only to the extent that you let them be. Go read Tomas Payne, "Common Sense". He was a little radical, and spelling wasn't his strong suite. But... Just go read it. > > 1. CHRISTIST MONK. > > 2. AMATEUR SCIENTIST (EXPERIMENTIST). > > 3. AMATEUR ENGINEER (EXPERIMENTIST). > > Too bad this is a mad scientist's list, and not a mad > monk's list. I guess you belong elsewhere. > > TOO BAD I'M NOT A MONK, AND THAT That is easy to rectify. Find a priest and ask to join some monastery. Now, if you think politics, oppression, etc. are bad in Tulsa... Oh! Ho! Ho! Are you going to be in for a surprise! Because it is ALL political BS in the monkeystary!!! I remember sitting in my dormitory room one summer night, when an "Angel" made it's presence felt in my room. I was invited to be a real minister in the catholic church. The angel said to me that I would rise to be Pope, that my path would be good because my soul was good. It had good credit from previous lives! I would be an agent of change. I looked upon the poor misguided angel and asked why on earth I would ever want to put up with all that Bull Crap Politics, Dogmatic Dogma (the original dogma, not some pale imitation, no less!) etc. I asked one other thing. Did it believe that I could maintain my inner convictions? Or would they soon be overwhelmed by the Dogma that I would have to claim to believe in? And is that kind of dichotomy not a lie??? Sorry, not interest! I'd heard pretty much that pitch before. From a bunch of lawyers trying to recruit poor young impressionable science and engineering students. Wasn't buying into that one, either. The path changes one. Law is memory. Engineering is formulas. Science is exploration and experimentation. If you blow up a law office, you get arrested. If you blow up a laboratory... a few times no less... well, you might STILL get a Nobel prize! > I'M CLOSER TO BEING A HIPPY..! > I ENJOY EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE; THE > > EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE PROJECTS > THAT HAVE PROMISE FOR ALL OF US; > PROJECTS WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY DO > THE HANDS ON WORK; WHEN ALL OF > THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS ASSHOLE > JERKS; WITHOUT NAMING NAMES; WHEN > THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS PEOPLE etc. Clyde, you do great things when you stock the warehouse and take out the trash. You think not? Just try not doing it, and see how long the place lasts. Which is why they hire people to do it. It makes a difference! Civilization is a lot of people doing simple things that keep civilization civilized. Don't knock it. You are doing an important job! Of course, that's the Buddhist perspective. But it works. Could you do a more important job? You'd have to learn how. And right now, your objection level and stress levels are so high that you seem to reject anything new. So for now, just remember that your job IS important. And if you do it well, they might think you can do more important jobs. > AND I CAN ASSURE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE > OUT THERE WHO HAVE BEEN FUCKING > WITH ME, THAT I AM NOT DOING > ANYTHING ILLEGAL; THOUGH THE L.P.F.M. Good! > THOUGH NOT ALL OF WHAT I HAVE > SHARED IS SCIENTIFIC IN NATURE; I > HAVE TRIED TO DO THE ABSOLUTE > BEST THAT I CAN DO..! "When trying harder doesn't seem to work, try less hard. It might work." Thanks to you we've covered marketing, power lines, morals, scruples, economics, I forget what else. More thoughts along science would be better, of course. (Chuckle) My answers might be more realistic. Now where can I build a laboratory to blow up? Ah... I can build it here way, way, WAY out in the wilderness! -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 00:45:27 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 00:45:32 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060122183433.75797.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 22, 2006 10:34:33 AM Message-ID: <20060123074527.84925.qmail@mall-net.com> > 4. WHERE IS THE BRIDGE LINK, BETWEEN M.K. ULTRA, > AND THE MONTAUK PROJECT..? They buried it at Love Canal. > 1. WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND > OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)..? School clocks. Do you remember how, just before the hour or something, there was some sort of loud click from the school clocks? Carrier Current technology to make the clocks sync up. So yes, carrier current technology was used for nefarious purposes long before internet. > > 2. DID BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES ORIGINATE > WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS > ENGINEERS, AND THE THOUGHT POLICE, OF COMMUNIST > RUSSIA; AND WAS ADOLF HITLER KNOWLEDGEABLE OF > THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL..? School administrators, Radio Shack, and I forget who else. > 3. WAS BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY > BEING USED AGAINST PEOPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES, > BEFORE THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION, OR > DID IT BEGIN WITH THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION..? It was used against students all over the United States of America! Mind control! Every hour, you had to change your mental orientation for another class in a totally different reality with zero carry-over. (Except math and physics.) Then Radio Shack hijacked it to use for intercoms. (Dozens of plans for kids showing how to make them long before Radio Shack. I know guys in their seventies who had fun with this when they were kids.) Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 06:02:32 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 06:02:43 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060123061929.39715.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060123130232.40901.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > Got to pick one, Clyde. Yes, you can have attributes of others, > > but with your situation, you need to concentrate on one. [REVISED: 1. FINANCIAL; 2. SOCIAL; 3. ECONOMIC; 4. ECOLOGICAL; 5. ENERGY; 6. EDUCATION; AND; 7. SEXUAL SLAVERY ARE # 1 PROBLEMS IN MY LIFE..!] Um... only to the extent that you let them be. WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU (NECCESSARILY) ON THAT? 1. YES: LIFE IS WHATEVER WE MAKE OF IT. 2. I GET, AND HAVE GOTTEN, SO MUCH INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, BECAUSE I AM SUCH A SENSITIVE PERSON; ACTUALLY; MAYBE I AM A COMBINATION; MAYBE I AM A COMBINATION OF BEING BOTH SENSITIVE AND UNSENSITIVE; SIMULTANEOUSLY; AT THE SAME TIME..! Go read Thomas Payne, "Common Sense". He was a little radical, and spelling wasn't his strong suite. But... Just go read it. I'VE HEARD ABOUT THOMAS PAYNE BEFORE; THOUGH I'VE NEVER HEARD THE STORY OF WHAT HE WAS ABOUT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE OF WHAT HE WAS ABOUT? > > 1. CHRISTIST MONK. > > 2. AMATEUR SCIENTIST (EXPERIMENTIST). > > 3. AMATEUR ENGINEER (EXPERIMENTIST). > > Too bad this is a mad scientist's list, and not a mad > monk's list. I guess you belong elsewhere. > > TOO BAD I'M NOT A MONK, AND THAT That is easy to rectify. Find a priest and ask to join some monastery. YEAH; THAT IS EASY..! I FOUND A BUDDHIST TEMPLE, HERE IN TULSA. Now, if you think politics, oppression, etc. are bad in Tulsa... Oh! Ho! Ho! Are you going to be in for a surprise! Because it is ALL political BS in the monkeystary!!! REALLY; IT DIDN'T SEEM THAT WAY WHEN I WENT TO THE BUDDHIST TEMPLE. THOUGH I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE RELIGION IN THIS WORLD; NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION THAT IT MAY BE; ALWAYS HAS SOME HIDDEN AGENDA BEHIND THEIR CAUSE, AND / OR BEHIND THEIR CAUSES..! I remember sitting in my dormitory room one summer night, when a "Angel" made it's presence felt in my room. I was invited to be a real minister in the catholic church. The angel said to me that I would rise to be Pope, that my path would be good because my soul was good. It had good credit from previous lives! I would be an agent of change. I looked upon the poor misguided angel and asked why on earth I would ever want to put up with all that Bull Crap Politics, Dogmatic Dogma (the original dogma, not some pale imitation, no less!) etc. RIGHT ON..! I asked one other thing. Did it believe that I could maintain my inner convictions? Or would they soon be overwhelmed by the Dogma that I would have to claim to believe in? And is that kind of dichotomy not a lie??? Sorry, not interest! RIGHT ON..! MY KARMA HAS OVERLOADED NOT ONLY ME, MYSELF, AND I, BUT HAS OVERLOADED MANY OTHERS AS WELL.! DUMPING ALL OF MY BAD KARMA UPON ALL OF THE DOGMA, WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME AS DUMPING A GARGANTUAN CRAP PILE OF HORSESHIT IN THE CENTER OF THE CENTER OF THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE; DOWNSLUM; HERE IN TULSA OKLAHOMA; JUST DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE TULSA TURD-WURLD LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER, OF BABEL..! I'd heard pretty much that pitch before. From a bunch of lawyers trying to recruit poor young impressionable science and engineering students. Wasn't buying into that one, either. The path changes one. Law is memory. Engineering is formulas. Science is exploration and experimentation. If you blow up a law office, you get arrested. If you blow up a laboratory... a few times no less... well, you might STILL get a Nobel prize! YEAH. > I'M CLOSER TO BEING A HIPPY..! > I ENJOY EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE; THE > > EXPERIMENTAL SCIENCE PROJECTS > THAT HAVE PROMISE FOR ALL OF US; > PROJECTS WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY DO > THE HANDS ON WORK; WHEN ALL OF > THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS ASSHOLE > JERKS; WITHOUT NAMING NAMES; WHEN > THOSE SEEMINGLY ENDLESS PEOPLE etc. Clyde, you do great things when you stock the warehouse and take out the trash. YEAH; I'M FINDING OUT HOW TRUE THAT THE LAST HALF OF YOUR SENTENCE IS; OF THE TAKING OUT THE TRASH PORTION. AS TO THE STOCKING OF THE WAREHOUSE; THAT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO; FINANCIAL BULLSHIT; IS 'A PERPETUAL' IMPEDENCE, IN THIS OVERZONED AND OVERTAXXXED, WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, INDUSTRIALIZED EVER GO NOWHERE SLUDGEPIT SLUM TOWN, OF TULSA OKLAHOMA..! You think not? Just try not doing it, and see how long the place lasts. Which is why they hire people to do it. It makes a difference! YEAH. Civilization is a lot of people doing simple things that keep civilization civilized. Don't knock it. You are doing an important job! YEAH; THOUGH IT IS AS DIFFICULT AS IS THE RESISTANCE TO ALL HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF; NOT FOR ME THE PEOPLE; BECAUSE IT ISN'T ME AND ME ALONE: IT IS WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA: AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I DO NOT HAVE ANY WANTS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT..! Of course, that's the Buddhist perspective. But it works. OK. Could you do a more important job? You'd have to learn how. And right now, your objection level and stress levels are so high that you seem to reject anything new. I REJECT MOSTLY EVERYTHING; THOUGH NOT EVERYTHING..! MOSTLY EVERYTHING IS TRASH; AND IF WE, THE AMERICANS ACCEPT CHEAP LABOR COMMUNIST CHINESE TRASH, AND OTHER CHEAP TRASH; WE WILL HAVE NO ONE OTHER THAN OURSELVES IN THIS STILL GREAT COUNTRY TO BLAME FOR THE MESS THAT THE POLITICIANS HAVE GOTTEN EACH AND EVERYONE OF US INTO..! So for now, just remember that your job IS important. And if you do it well, they might think you can do more important jobs. OK; I HAVE TWO GOOD JOBS IN MIND RIGHT NOW. ONE OF THEM WOULD REQUIRE ME TO MOVE, OR TO TRAVEL OUT OF SHTATE. THE OTHER ONE WOULD KEEP ME ENVIRONED HERE; IN SLUMTOWN. > AND I CAN ASSURE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE > OUT THERE WHO HAVE BEEN FUCKING > WITH ME, THAT I AM NOT DOING > ANYTHING ILLEGAL; THOUGH THE L.P.F.M. Good! > THOUGH NOT ALL OF WHAT I HAVE > SHARED IS SCIENTIFIC IN NATURE; I > HAVE TRIED TO DO THE ABSOLUTE > BEST THAT I CAN DO..! "When trying harder doesn't seem to work, try less hard. It might work." Thanks to you we've covered marketing, power lines, morals, scruples, economics, I forget what else. More thoughts along science would be better, of course. (Chuckle) My answers might be more realistic. Now where can I build a laboratory to blow up? Ah... I can build it here way, way, WAY out in the wilderness! RIGHT ON..! WAY WAY OUT IN THE BOONDOCKS..! FAR FAR AWAY FROM THIS NEVERENDING SENSELESS STUPID EVER GO NOWHERE 'CIVIL' - IZATION..! NOW WHERE IS THAT SUPER HIGH EFFICIENT ELECTRIC CAR, TO GET ME HERE AND FRO, THAT THE INFERNAL SLUDGESMUCKIN' ENGINE ASSHOLES HAVE BEEN REPRESSING FRON MAINSTREAM, FOR OVER 50 PLUS YEARS AND MORE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/ed1735c0/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 06:25:52 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 06:26:07 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060123074527.84925.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060123132552.59913.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > 4. WHERE IS THE BRIDGE LINK, BETWEEN M.K. ULTRA, > AND THE MONTAUK PROJECT..? They buried it at Love Canal. HMM; INTERESTING. THOUGH WHERE IS LOVE CANAL? SEEMS I'VE HEARD OF LOVE CANAL BEFORE; THOUGH ARE YOU JOKING? > 1. WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND > OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)..? School clocks. Do you remember how, YEP: RIGHT ON..! THE SYNCHRONIZING OF THE A.C. POWERED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLOCKS USED TO HOLD MY ATTENTION DURING CLASSES, WHEN I WAS IN SIXTH GRADE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AT ROBERT B. GROVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HERE IN NAZI-COMMIE SLUMTOWN TULSA..! just before the hour or something, there was some sort of loud click from the school clocks? RIGHT ON..! THE CLICK THOUGH; WASN'T EXTREMELY LOUD; IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE CLICK OF THE CLOCKS THEMSELVES; THOUGH I TERMED IT: CLOCK CLICK..! Carrier Current technology to make the clocks sync up. YES: RIGHT ON..! So yes, carrier current technology was used for nefarious NEFARIOUS PURPOSES; I NEED TO LOOK THE DEFINITION OF NEFARIOUS UP; IN WEBSTERS. purposes, long before internet ; AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON CIVILIANS..! > > 2. DID BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES ORIGINATE > WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS > ENGINEERS, AND THE THOUGHT POLICE, OF COMMUNIST > RUSSIA; AND WAS ADOLF HITLER KNOWLEDGEABLE OF > THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL..? School administrators, Radio Shack, and I forget who else. > 3. WAS BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY > BEING USED AGAINST PEOPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES, > BEFORE THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION, OR > DID IT BEGIN WITH THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION..? It was used against students all over the United States of America! Mind control! Every hour, WHOA..! NO WONDER WHY MY ENGLISH TEACHER IN ELEMENTAL-ARY ALWAYS SAID: "THINK..! CONCENTRATE..!", WHEN THE CLOCK CLICK HAD MY HYPNOTIC ATTENTION..! you had to change your mental orientation for another class in a totally different reality with zero carry-over. ABSOLUTELY BIZZARRE..! (Except math and physics.) Then Radio Shack hijacked it to use for intercoms. (Dozens of plans for kids showing how to make them, long before Radio Shack. I know guys in their seventies who had fun with this when they were kids.) Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. STRANGE; AND VERY VERY COOL..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/302a9ce5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 09:24:32 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 09:24:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060123132552.59913.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 05:25:52 AM Message-ID: <20060123162432.6478.qmail@mall-net.com> > > 4. WHERE IS THE BRIDGE LINK, BETWEEN M.K. ULTRA, > > AND THE MONTAUK PROJECT..? > > They buried it at Love Canal. > > HMM; INTERESTING. > THOUGH WHERE IS LOVE CANAL? > SEEMS I'VE HEARD OF LOVE CANAL BEFORE; THOUGH > ARE YOU JOKING? Yes. Love Canal is a toxic waste site in which many people got very ill because some company, I think it was Hoechst, had dumped toxic waste when it had been legal to do so. > > 1. WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND > > OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)..? > > School clocks. > Carrier Current technology to make the clocks sync up. > So yes, carrier current technology was used for > > nefarious > > NEFARIOUS PURPOSES; I NEED TO LOOK THE DEFINITION OF > NEFARIOUS UP; IN WEBSTERS. Evil, not good > purposes, long before internet ; > > AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON > CIVILIANS..! No, not spying, just making the clocks sync up by moving the minute hand that final second. Spying was done over the PA system with dedicated wires. > > 3. WAS BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY > > BEING USED AGAINST PEOPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES, > > BEFORE THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION, OR > > DID IT BEGIN WITH THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION..? > > It was used against students all over the United States of America! > Mind control! Every hour, > > WHOA..! > NO WONDER WHY MY ENGLISH TEACHER IN ELEMENTAL-ARY > ALWAYS SAID: "THINK..! CONCENTRATE..!", WHEN THE CLOCK > CLICK HAD MY HYPNOTIC ATTENTION..! Not really. She was just trying to teach you English. I wish more people spoke it correctly. > you had to change your mental orientation for another class in a totally > different reality with zero carry-over. > > ABSOLUTELY BIZZARRE..! (You should be laughing at this point.) > (Except math and physics.) > > Then Radio Shack hijacked it to use for intercoms. (Dozens of > plans for kids showing how to make them, long before Radio Shack. I > know guys in their seventies who had fun with this when they were kids.) > > Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room > where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. > > STRANGE; AND VERY VERY COOL..! See, we all know school wasn't THAT bad. It even taught us something. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 09:41:28 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 09:41:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] LAST NIGHT'S E-MAIL REPLY TONIGHT. In-Reply-To: <20060123130232.40901.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 05:02:32 AM Message-ID: <20060123164128.19911.qmail@mall-net.com> > 1. FINANCIAL; 2. SOCIAL; 3. ECONOMIC; 4. ECOLOGICAL; 5. ENERGY; > 6. EDUCATION; AND; 7. SEXUAL SLAVERY ARE # 1 PROBLEMS IN MY > LIFE..!] > > Um... only to the extent that you let them be. > > WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU (NECCESSARILY) ON THAT? > 1. YES: LIFE IS WHATEVER WE MAKE OF IT. What's the alternative? Believing everything is hopeless? Both are equally right. If you believe life is whatever you make of it, you will make something of it. If you believe life is hopeless, you won't try. Which do YOU want to be true? Have you put away that rock/rap "music" yet? > 2. I GET, AND HAVE GOTTEN, SO MUCH INTERFERENCE > FROM OTHERS THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, BECAUSE I > AM SUCH A SENSITIVE PERSON; ACTUALLY; MAYBE I > AM A COMBINATION; MAYBE I AM A COMBINATION OF > BEING BOTH SENSITIVE AND UNSENSITIVE; SIMULTANEOUSLY; > AT THE SAME TIME..! So? You think I'm not irritated by a lot of crap here in the mountains? I'd say this is more irritating than living in civilization! A LOT more!!! But... with my health problems, the pollution just builds up on my blood faster than the liver, etc. can clean it when I am down there. > Go read Thomas Payne, "Common Sense". He was a little radical, and > spelling wasn't his strong suite. But... Just go read it. > > I'VE HEARD ABOUT THOMAS PAYNE BEFORE; THOUGH I'VE > NEVER HEARD THE STORY OF WHAT HE WAS ABOUT. > CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE OF WHAT HE WAS ABOUT? You have to do some work too, you know. He's probably on the web. Thomas Payne Common Sense. > > TOO BAD I'M NOT A MONK, AND THAT > > That is easy to rectify. Find a priest and ask to join some > monastery. > > YEAH; THAT IS EASY..! > I FOUND A BUDDHIST TEMPLE, HERE IN TULSA. > > Now, if you think politics, oppression, etc. are bad in Tulsa... Oh! > Ho! Ho! Are you going to be in for a surprise! Because it is ALL > political BS in the monkeystary!!! > > REALLY; IT DIDN'T SEEM THAT WAY WHEN I WENT TO THE > BUDDHIST TEMPLE. They are a little better. > THOUGH I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE RELIGION IN THIS > WORLD; NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION THAT IT MAY BE; ALWAYS > HAS SOME HIDDEN AGENDA BEHIND THEIR CAUSE, AND / OR > BEHIND THEIR CAUSES..! 1. Survival. 2. Propagation of their dogma. > I asked one other thing. Did it believe that I could maintain my > inner convictions? Or would they soon be overwhelmed by the Dogma that > I would have to claim to believe in? And is that kind of dichotomy not > a lie??? > > Sorry, not interest! > > RIGHT ON..! > MY KARMA HAS OVERLOADED NOT ONLY ME, MYSELF, AND I, I remember the song "My karma ran over my dogma" ... Bring back, bring back, bring back my dogma to me, to me..." that one witch (Wiccan) priestess sang. > BUT HAS OVERLOADED MANY OTHERS AS WELL.! > DUMPING ALL OF MY BAD KARMA UPON ALL OF THE DOGMA, > WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME AS DUMPING A GARGANTUAN CRAP > PILE OF HORSESHIT IN THE CENTER OF THE CENTER OF THE > CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE; DOWNSLUM; HERE IN TULSA > OKLAHOMA; JUST DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE TULSA TURD-WURLD > LONE WORLD TRADE TOWER, OF BABEL..! So just ignore it. Go read Tom Payne. > Civilization is a lot of people doing simple things that keep > civilization civilized. Don't knock it. You are doing an important job! > > YEAH; THOUGH IT IS AS DIFFICULT AS IS THE RESISTANCE TO ALL > HELL AND DAMNATION ITSELF; NOT FOR ME THE PEOPLE; BECAUSE > IT ISN'T ME AND ME ALONE: IT IS WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA: > AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I DO NOT HAVE ANY WANTS TO BE > IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT..! > > Of course, that's the Buddhist perspective. But it works. > > OK. I think you need to read Tom Payne, then join the Buddhists for a few months of meditation training and such. It would give you another perspective on life. > So for now, just remember that your job IS important. And if you do it well, > they might think you can do more important jobs. > > OK; I HAVE TWO GOOD JOBS IN MIND RIGHT NOW. > ONE OF THEM WOULD REQUIRE ME TO MOVE, OR TO TRAVEL > OUT OF SHTATE. Are you employed now, Clyde? > RIGHT ON..! > WAY WAY OUT IN THE BOONDOCKS..! > FAR FAR AWAY FROM THIS NEVERENDING SENSELESS > STUPID EVER GO NOWHERE 'CIVIL' - IZATION..! Clyde, it's a heck of a lot easier living in civilization than outside of civilization. > NOW WHERE IS THAT SUPER HIGH EFFICIENT ELECTRIC > CAR, TO GET ME HERE AND FRO, THAT THE INFERNAL > SLUDGESMUCKIN' ENGINE ASSHOLES HAVE BEEN > REPRESSING FRON MAINSTREAM, FOR OVER 50 PLUS YEARS > AND MORE. It does not matter what you drive, Clyde; it matters more where you go. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 12:36:21 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 12:36:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060123162432.6478.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060123193621.98128.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > 1. WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND > > OVER POWERLINES; (B.P.L.)..? > > School clocks. > Carrier Current technology to make the clocks sync up. > So yes, carrier current technology was used for Evil purposes, > long before internet. > AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON > CIVILIANS..! No, not spying, just making the clocks sync up by moving the minute hand that final second. Spying was done over the PA system with dedicated wires. OK; BUT I'M REFERRING TO THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD THAT WE ARE LIVING IN; AN ORWELLIAN BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES, CARRIER CURRENT TRANSFORMER TAPPING, TWO WAY F.C.C. SPYING TECHNOLOGY, USED BY BOTH THE RIGHTIST NAZI'S AND THE LEFTIST COMMIES, AS UNDER THE TABLE DEVIANT DEALINGS: SECRET COOPERATIVE BETWEEN: THE F.C.C. ; THE N.S.A. ; THE F.B.I. ; THE C.I.A. ; THE K.G.B. ; AND THE SECRET SERVICE; ETC; FOR USING TONE CONTROL, VOLTAGE CONTROL, AND E.E.G. MONITORING OF ALL GROUND LOOP PHASES, ON RESIDENTIAL, COMMERICAL AND INDUSTRIAL MAINS..! > > 3. WAS BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY > > BEING USED AGAINST PEOPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES, > > BEFORE THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION, OR > > DID IT BEGIN WITH THE CLINTON / GORE ADMINISTRATION..? > > It was used against students all over the United States of America! > Mind control! Every hour, > > WHOA..! > NO WONDER WHY MY ENGLISH TEACHER IN ELEMENTAL-ARY > ALWAYS SAID: "THINK..! CONCENTRATE..!", WHEN THE CLOCK > CLICK HAD MY HYPNOTIC ATTENTION..! Not really. He was just trying to teach you English. NO; HE WAS A DR. ; DR. GRAHLMAN WAS/IS HIS NAME, AND I LOOK BACK AND WONDER IF HE MIGHT HAVE POSSIBLY HAD THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY; AFTER ALL, HE WAS/IS A DOCTOR; AND A SCHOOL BOARD LEADER FOR ONION (UNION) FASCIST COMMUNIST SCHOOLS, HERE IN SLUMTOWN..! I wish more people spoke it correctly. YEAH; ME TOO..! > you had to change your mental orientation for another class in a totally > different reality with zero carry-over. > > ABSOLUTELY BIZZARRE..! (You should be laughing at this point.) YES..! > (Except math and physics.) > > Then Radio Shack hijacked (RADIO SMACK HIJACK..!) it to use for intercoms. (Dozens of > plans for kids showing how to make them, long before Radio Shack. I > know guys in their seventies who had fun with this when they were kids.) > > Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room > where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. > > STRANGE; AND VERY VERY COOL..! See, we all know school wasn't THAT bad. It even taught us something. HYPNOSIS FROM CLASS TO CLASS..! SMILING / LAUGHING..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/0dedbf0b/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 12:54:46 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 12:54:55 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] S. 517; 109TH CONGRESS; WEATHER MODIFICATION RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER.... Message-ID: <20060123195447.955.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> S. 517 109TH CONGRESS; WEATHER MODIFICATION RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2005: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-517 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/207a920c/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 13:09:55 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:10:00 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (EXPANDED REPLY:) WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER.... In-Reply-To: <20060123193621.98128.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060123200956.50129.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> EXPANDED REPLY: javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > you had to change your mental orientation for another class in a totally > different reality with zero carry-over. > > ABSOLUTELY BIZZARRE..! (You should be laughing at this point.) YES..! > (Except math and physics.) > > Then Radio Shack hijacked (THE RADIO SMACK-HIJACK..!) it to use for intercoms. AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCY HYPNOSIS FOR THE MASSES..! > (Dozens of plans for kids showing how to make them, long before Radio > Shack. I know guys in their seventies who had fun with this when they > were kids.) > Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room > where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. > > STRANGE; AND VERY VERY COOL..! See, we all know school wasn't THAT bad; It even taught us something..! 1. HYPNOSIS FROM CLASS TO CLASS: AND: 2. HYPNOSIS FROM PLACE TO PLACE AS WELL..! STILL SMILING AND LAUGHING..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/eab42ea8/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 13:16:31 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:16:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060123193621.98128.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 11:36:21 AM Message-ID: <20060123201631.54587.qmail@mall-net.com> > > AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON > > CIVILIANS..! > > No, not spying, just making the clocks sync up by moving the minute > hand that final second. Spying was done over the PA system with > dedicated wires. > > OK; BUT I'M REFERRING TO THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD THAT > WE ARE LIVING IN; AN ORWELLIAN BROADBAND OVER > POWERLINES, CARRIER CURRENT TRANSFORMER TAPPING, TWO > WAY F.C.C. SPYING TECHNOLOGY, USED BY BOTH THE RIGHTIST > NAZI'S AND THE LEFTIST COMMIES, AS UNDER THE TABLE > DEVIANT DEALINGS: SECRET COOPERATIVE BETWEEN: THE F.C.C. But it's not happening. The polarization is not that great. Most people are in the middle. > ; THE N.S.A. ; THE F.B.I. ; THE C.I.A. ; THE K.G.B. ; AND THE > SECRET SERVICE; ETC; FOR USING TONE CONTROL, VOLTAGE > CONTROL, AND E.E.G. MONITORING OF ALL GROUND LOOP > PHASES, ON RESIDENTIAL, COMMERICAL AND INDUSTRIAL > MAINS..! It's not happening. There is not enough money, nor people to make something like that work in the USA! > > WHOA..! > > NO WONDER WHY MY ENGLISH TEACHER IN ELEMENTAL-ARY > > ALWAYS SAID: "THINK..! CONCENTRATE..!", WHEN THE CLOCK > > CLICK HAD MY HYPNOTIC ATTENTION..! > > Not really. He was just trying to teach you English. > > NO; HE WAS A DR. ; DR. GRAHLMAN WAS/IS HIS NAME, AND I > LOOK BACK AND WONDER IF HE MIGHT HAVE POSSIBLY HAD > THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY; > AFTER ALL, HE WAS/IS A DOCTOR; AND A SCHOOL BOARD LEADER > FOR ONION (UNION) FASCIST COMMUNIST SCHOOLS, HERE IN > SLUMTOWN..! Dr. denotes a Ph.D, a doctor of philosophy as opposed to an MD, Doctor or Medicine. The school boards, mistaken in their belief that education is, well, important beyond what it really is, reward teachers who have Ph.D.s with higher salaries than those who just have common sense. But, if your condition was known then, you may have been in some special treatment group for underachievers; in which case they seem to think that having more educated people will be better. You are looking at the world as if everything centered upon yourself again, not from the economic perspective that everyting has a cost, and there isn't enough money to go around. More thing happen by random chance, meaning unanticipated side effects to policies, than anything else. One fellow I know has a name beginning with Z. He left our university because he could not get classes. The computer systems assigned things in an A-Z manner. He lost! And after he lost enough times, he said screw it and left. I would have taken the issue up with the administration, asking them if they thought that was fair, asking if they thought that was what was worth teaching. And repeated that to the newspapers and my elected representatives. Nest step would be to create a union (club) of alphabetically challenged students working to publicize the evils of alphabetization of students. And if that failed, I would probably have legally changed my name. At least for the duration. > > Later, someone started using it to send printouts to the next room > > where the noisy printer wouldn't drive them nuts. > > > > STRANGE; AND VERY VERY COOL..! > > See, we all know school wasn't THAT bad. It even taught us > something. > > HYPNOSIS FROM CLASS TO CLASS..! > SMILING / LAUGHING..! Good. the world is a funny place. The more you laugh, the more oxygen gets to your brain, the more relaxed and smarter you become. Within limits, of course. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 13:24:36 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:24:45 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] S. 517; 109TH CONGRESS; In-Reply-To: <20060123195447.955.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 11:54:46 AM Message-ID: <20060123202436.58791.qmail@mall-net.com> > S. 517 > 109TH CONGRESS; WEATHER MODIFICATION > RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER > AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2005: > > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-517 1. (dot)US domain names can be bought by anyone. So that is, from the start, just a little suspicious. 2. The contents of the legislation do not, on reading them, seem out of the ordinary. The documents admit that there is no real methodology other than cloud seeding. Cloud seeding technology dates way, way back to the 1800's. We apparently did use cloud seeding to divert hurricanes till Mexico, Cuba, and other started yelling and screaming in the world forum about it. As a result, we stopped, now allowing things like the recent devastation of Florida and New Orleans. So once again, international checks and balances have prevailed. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 18:52:56 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 18:53:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060123201631.54587.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124015256.96573.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON > > CIVILIANS..! > > No, not spying, just making the clocks sync up by moving the minute > hand that final second. Spying was done over the PA system with > dedicated wires. > > OK; BUT I'M REFERRING TO THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD THAT > WE ARE LIVING IN; AN ORWELLIAN BROADBAND OVER > POWERLINES, CARRIER CURRENT TRANSFORMER TAPPING, TWO > WAY F.C.C. SPYING TECHNOLOGY, USED BY BOTH THE RIGHTIST > NAZI'S AND THE LEFTIST COMMIES, AS UNDER THE TABLE > DEVIANT DEALINGS: SECRET COOPERATIVE BETWEEN: THE F.C.C. But it's not happening. YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF THAT IT ISN'T HAPPENING; AND CANNOT KNOW FOR 100% CERTAIN THAT THE TECHNOLOGY EXISTS, AND IF IT IS, OR IF IT ISN'T THERE. DUE TO MONEY SUPPLY BEING INSUFFICIENT FOR ME; I CANNOT PURCHASE AND OWN THE TEST EQUIPMENT THAT I NEED, FOR LEGALLY TESTING THE TELEPHONE LINE; LEGALLY TESTING AND SHIELDING THE INCOMING MAINS TO [THE] BROKEN HOME. The polarization is not that great. WELL; THE 60 C.P.S. A.C. ON THE MAINS CAN BE DEMODULATED BY ANY SPECIFIC MILITARY QUALITY MONITORING EQUIPMENT..! Most people are in the middle. > ; THE N.S.A. ; THE F.B.I. ; THE C.I.A. ; THE K.G.B. ; AND THE > SECRET SERVICE; ETC; FOR USING TONE CONTROL, VOLTAGE > CONTROL, AND E.E.G. MONITORING OF ALL GROUND LOOP > PHASES, ON RESIDENTIAL, COMMERICAL AND INDUSTRIAL > MAINS..! It's not happening. There is not enough money, nor people to make something like that work in the USA! CAN YOU PROVE THAT IT ISN'T HAPPENING..? But, if your condition was known then, you may have been in some special treatment group for underachievers; in which case they seem to think that having more educated people will be better. MAYBE.... ; I WAS AN UNDERACHIEVER - DUE TO ALL OF THE FAMILIAL SHIT THAT WAS ENDLESS..! You are looking at the world as if everything centered upon yourself again, not from the economic perspective that everyting has a cost, and there isn't enough money to go around. YES..! BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICA IS NOW FINANCIALLY BANKRUPT, AND FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT. ALL POLITICIANS (LEFT AND RIGHT) AND THE FUCKED UP EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE TO BLAME; IN THIS HEAVILY DIVIDED COUNTRY..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/26f93720/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 20:26:53 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 20:26:59 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060124015256.96573.qmail@web50609.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 05:52:56 PM Message-ID: <20060124032653.84129.qmail@mall-net.com> > > > AND BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES GOVT. SPYING, ON > > > CIVILIANS..! > > > > No, not spying, just making the clocks sync up by moving the minute > > hand that final second. Spying was done over the PA system with > > dedicated wires. > > > > OK; BUT I'M REFERRING TO THIS MODERN TIME PERIOD THAT > > WE ARE LIVING IN; AN ORWELLIAN BROADBAND OVER > But it's not happening. > > YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF THAT IT ISN'T HAPPENING; AND > CANNOT KNOW FOR 100% CERTAIN THAT THE TECHNOLOGY You can not prove a negative hypothesis. Thus, we don't assume too much crap is happening when it is unlikely to be happening. I remember going through this stage when I was in my early teens, still trying to understand the world. Before one's teens, one isn't quite sure of the powers of other people or groups, but not so concerned with that if one hasn't run into one of them head-on over some issue. Basically, when we start looking at economics in our twenties to thirties, we find enough proof that stuff like that does not happen in this society. Other societies... people do disappear with others not wanting to talk about it. Not in the USA, at least not on a large scale. It takes too many layers of beurocracy to approve an arrest; and those are not done secretly except in extreme cases of terrorist cells. And even then, there are plenty of paper trails. > EXISTS, AND IF IT IS, OR IF IT ISN'T THERE. > DUE TO MONEY SUPPLY BEING INSUFFICIENT FOR ME; I CANNOT > PURCHASE AND OWN THE TEST EQUIPMENT THAT I NEED, FOR > LEGALLY TESTING THE TELEPHONE LINE; LEGALLY TESTING AND > SHIELDING THE INCOMING MAINS TO [THE] BROKEN HOME. What law??? For the telephone, you can't test it. I worked on a telco project long ago. I've seen how telephone line men have used their ESS Electronic Switching System control over-rides. Properly done (and legal wire-taps by the police, FBI, CIA, etc. are properly done), a wire-tap isn't a splice on the wires, it's done in the ESS with extra relay closures after the initial amplifiers. In other words, absolutely no way for you to tell at the subscriber level. All someone has to do, is input the proper codes into a touch tone phone, and they are connected to your line, hearing everything you say. And you never heard a click! Now, it some less sophisticated outfit is doing this illegally, like a private detective of neighbor, they can put a tap on the line and connect that to a tape recorder. Such devices are available for consumer use on their own phones. Nor are they hard to build by someone who understands electronics. But the real question is how much effort is it to listen to all conversations and note what is important? The KGB use to do this, use to employ large cadres of people trying to ferret out information on the telephone company over-seas relay satellites. It took an IMMENSE amount of effort! And money. More common however, and I've had this happen to me several times, is the lineman will cross-connect two lines in one way or another by accident. Then you have a little bit of fun trying to get that straightened out! I've also had people try to hijack my phone to make a long distance call. Some of the better phones have a LED that lights when the phone is off the line. Bingo! "Who the heck are you???" > The polarization is not that great. > > WELL; THE 60 C.P.S. A.C. ON THE MAINS CAN BE DEMODULATED > BY ANY SPECIFIC MILITARY QUALITY MONITORING EQUIPMENT..! I was referring to the polarization of the people in the USA that you keep talking about. Demodulating the AC makes no sense. > > Most people are in the middle. > > > ; THE N.S.A. ; THE F.B.I. ; THE C.I.A. ; THE K.G.B. ; AND THE > > SECRET SERVICE; ETC; FOR USING TONE CONTROL, VOLTAGE > > CONTROL, AND E.E.G. MONITORING OF ALL GROUND LOOP > > PHASES, ON RESIDENTIAL, COMMERICAL AND INDUSTRIAL > > MAINS..! And how much do you think that would cost, per residence? And what would it cost to determine what that all means? What information could they possibly gain??? When I first went to college, I was involved in a little bit of tracking of usage of computer programs. I ran in a little group of people who wanted to know what was going on in the computer center. It was a LOT of work trying to piece together computer printouts, card decks, etc. Wasn't long before we gave up. Then several of us ended up working for that computer center in various capacities. That's when we realized we couldn't hope to figure it out, despite virtually owning the computer center on weekends! And this was just one computer center at a time when most students never touched a computer. I have to laugh about it, because when they found out what I was tracking, they hired me to keep doing it so they would know, at least a little more about what was going on. > It's not happening. There is not enough money, nor people to make > something like that work in the USA! > > CAN YOU PROVE THAT IT ISN'T HAPPENING..? You can't prove a negative hypothesis. Can you prove it is? Can you explain what they would gain? Or where they would get the budget??? > But, if your condition was known then, you may have been in some > special treatment group for underachievers; in which case they seem to > think that having more educated people will be better. > > MAYBE.... ; > I WAS AN UNDERACHIEVER - DUE TO ALL OF THE FAMILIAL SHIT > THAT WAS ENDLESS..! that does tend to slow some people down. > You are looking at the world as if everything centered upon yourself > again, not from the economic perspective that everyting has a cost, > and there isn't enough money to go around. > > YES..! BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICA IS NOW FINANCIALLY > BANKRUPT, AND FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT. The family farm is long gone, it is true. But that hardly means we are bankrupt. We chose to live a more inter-dependent life style because that way, we can get far more for ourselves. > ALL POLITICIANS (LEFT AND RIGHT) AND THE FUCKED UP > EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ARE TO BLAME; IN THIS HEAVILY DIVIDED > COUNTRY..! I have lived, worked and or had business discussions with people while in in Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Ohio (too damned flat for me!), South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Oregon, Washington DC... I may have missed one or two; I have driven through or visited more, up and down the coast on both sides, across the USA once, across part of Canada once. I have not found much of a divide. Most people are decent. No one I met was willing to engage in physical fights over politics, nor religion. One my old stamping ground of Palm Bay Florida, where I spent a year working in the "military industrial complex", the Baptists, Catholics, and some other religious banded together to support a Wiccan (witch) group's right to peaceably assemble on privately owned land when the zoning board decided to try to prevent that. Catholics supporting witches before the courts on an issue of religious freedom. In the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989, the poorest of the poor blacks in Oakland, many without ANY automobiles, risked their lives to rescue white people driving BMW's and Mercedes in the collapse of the Cypress Structure overhead highway. (And anyone else!) During my travels, I have seen many truckers stop to help people on the highways. I have seen many people at truck stops, restaurants, tourist traps, and corporate boardrooms, have polite discussions about many topics with many other people quite different in background from theirs. (And yes, I've nearly been mugged, I think, once or twice by the very, very few bad folks in this country. In one case a sharp look made them back off; in another, I hit the gas and the guy fell into the road behind me before he could smash my window.) That does not sound like a divided nation to me. That sounds like Americans put their being human and American, and Free before all else that they might disagree over. And the same seems to go for Canadians. Now for contrast, we look to Kosovo, Rowanda, The Belgian Congo, and other areas. I say we do damned well! We are not nearly as divided as France (recent riots, remember?), Germany, and some other Civilized European nations. America is Special. Why? Because we want it to be! (And Canada isn't that far behind these days, either.) Do you want America to be Special? What are you doing to help? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 23 23:15:55 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 23 23:16:04 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060124032653.84129.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124061555.76152.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > YES..! BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICA IS NOW FINANCIALLY > BANKRUPT, AND FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT. The family farm is long gone, it is true. But that hardly means we are bankrupt. We chose to live a more inter-dependent life style because that way, we can get far more for ourselves. I DO NOT HAVE ANY LIKING AT ALL, WHATSOEVER, FOR INTER-DEPENDENCE; AND IN-DEPENDENCE IS LOOKING TO BE A WRONG CHOICE JUST AS MUCH. UN-DEPENDENCE IS WHAT I WANT AND NEED MOST OF ALL. THE LINGUISM OF THE WORD: IN-DEPENDENCE, SEEMS TO IMPLY ONE OR MORE PEOPLE, OR ANIMALS, BEING TRAPPED WITH-IN DEPENDENCE. I YEARN FOR UN-DEPENDENCE; THOUGH NOT ABSOLUTE TOTAL UNDEPENDENCE; I DON'T WANT TOTAL ABSOLUTE ISOLATION FROM OTHERS AND SOCIETY; BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TO MEET MY HUMAN NEEDS, WHICH REQUIRE RELIANCE UPON OTHERS. I DO HOWEVER THOUGH WANT MY PRIVACY RESPECTED..! ANTI-DEPENDENCE IS WHAT I DESPERATELY NEED..! AND THE GOD OF CHRISITIANITY HAS NOT PROVIDED UN-DEPENDENCE FOR MYSELF; NOR HAS THE GOD OF CHRISTIANITY PROVIDED PERFECT UN-DEPENDENCE FOR OTHERS AS WELL. I'LL REPLY MORE, TOMORROW. CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060123/755412e9/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 23 23:35:53 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 23 23:35:57 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] WHAT AND WHERE ARE THE ORIGINS OF BROADBAND OVER In-Reply-To: <20060124061555.76152.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 23, 2006 10:15:55 PM Message-ID: <20060124063553.690.qmail@mall-net.com> > > YES..! BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICA IS NOW FINANCIALLY > > BANKRUPT, AND FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT. > > The family farm is long gone, it is true. But that hardly means we > are bankrupt. We chose to live a more inter-dependent life style > because that way, we can get far more for ourselves. > > I DO NOT HAVE ANY LIKING AT ALL, WHATSOEVER, FOR > INTER-DEPENDENCE; Then you can kiss all your scientific and engineering equipment good by. And the shirt on your back, the food on your table, the car in your driveway... warmth, comfort and all that good by. Get up before dawn, get the horses in the collars, and start plowing. Bad year, drought, too much rain too soon, too much wind??? And you are starving. Oh, and you still have to buy the horse collars, and sell the results of your farming. > AND IN-DEPENDENCE IS LOOKING TO BE A WRONG CHOICE > JUST AS MUCH. You can't be a scientist if you spend all your time farming. No way you have time! > I YEARN FOR UN-DEPENDENCE; THOUGH NOT ABSOLUTE > TOTAL UNDEPENDENCE; Then you have to work for someone else. Or do something others will find sufficiently interesting and useful to buy from you. > I DON'T WANT TOTAL ABSOLUTE ISOLATION FROM OTHERS > AND SOCIETY; BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TO MEET MY HUMAN > NEEDS, WHICH REQUIRE RELIANCE UPON OTHERS. So you can still say no to a lot of things in the market place. > I DO HOWEVER THOUGH WANT MY PRIVACY RESPECTED..! And with the exception of immediate family, it more or less is. > ANTI-DEPENDENCE IS WHAT I DESPERATELY NEED..! > AND THE GOD OF CHRISITIANITY HAS NOT PROVIDED > UN-DEPENDENCE FOR MYSELF; NOR HAS THE GOD OF > CHRISTIANITY PROVIDED PERFECT UN-DEPENDENCE FOR > OTHERS AS WELL. > I'LL REPLY MORE, TOMORROW. You are thinking. That's good. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. 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From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Jan 23 23:51:32 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Mon Jan 23 23:53:31 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetricity Dynamo Message-ID: <20060123.225141.27280.119400@webmail21.lax.untd.com> http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/NeoGen_Dynamo.php#MotorGen From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 00:28:44 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 00:28:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetricity Dynamo In-Reply-To: <20060123.225141.27280.119400@webmail21.lax.untd.com> from "thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Jan 24, 2006 06:51:32 AM Message-ID: <20060124072844.30492.qmail@mall-net.com> > > > > http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/NeoGen_Dynamo.php#MotorGen Interesting. Have you or anyone you know personally build this device? And if so, what was the result? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 06:25:22 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 06:25:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetricity Dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124072844.30492.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124132522.99007.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/NeoGen_Dynamo.php#MotorGen Interesting. Have you, or anyone you know personally built this device? And if so, what was the result? WHERE DO TIME AND MONEY AND MONEY AND TIME COME FROM, TO EVEN BEGIN TO START THE PROJECT? QUOTING ECOLONOMIST: DENNIS WEAVER: "MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..! IT IS..! IF YOU PILE IT UP; IT STINKS..! BUT IF YOU SPREAD IT AROUND; IT GROWS THINGS..!" THE BANKING CARTEL, ALONG WITH THE MEDIA, THE PHARMACOLOGY DRUG CARTEL, AND THE AUTOMOTIVE AND ENERGY CARTELS - HAVE FUCKED US ALL, AND SO HAVE ALL OF THE POLITICIANS - ON BOTH THE LEFT AND THE ON THE RIGHT: EQUALLY..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/57a2d31e/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 06:29:16 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 06:29:21 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: EDITED: Magnetricity Dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124072844.30492.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124132917.183.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> EDITED: javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/NeoGen_Dynamo.php#MotorGen Interesting. Have you, or anyone you know, personally built this device? And if so, what was the result? WHERE DO TIME AND MONEY AND MONEY AND TIME COME FROM, TO EVEN BEGIN TO START THE PROJECT? QUOTING ECOLONOMIST: DENNIS WEAVER: "MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..! IT IS..! IF YOU PILE IT UP; IT STINKS..! BUT IF YOU SPREAD IT AROUND; IT GROWS THINGS..!" THE BANKING CARTEL, ALONG WITH THE MEDIA, THE PHARMACOLOGY DRUG CARTEL, AND THE AUTOMOTIVE AND ENERGY CARTELS - HAVE FUCKED US ALL, WITH THE HELP OF ALL OF THE POLITICIANS - ON BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT - EQUALLY..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/8508b56c/attachment.html From thrustmeister at netzero.net Tue Jan 24 07:55:17 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Tue Jan 24 07:56:26 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Magnetricity Dynamo Message-ID: <20060124.065547.4326.121362@webmail27.lax.untd.com> -- javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > > > http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/NeoGen_Dynamo.php#MotorGen Interesting. Have you or anyone you know personally build this device? And if so, what was the result? --No. I probabally won't. It seems much simpler to me to take a ceiling fan motor and test it for pulse motor operation. If it works, hook that to a generator. I also want to test this unusual type of motor (rim armature) with Gray's Conversion Tube, which would introduce OU, if successful. -JV _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists From thrustmeister at netzero.net Tue Jan 24 07:58:43 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Tue Jan 24 08:00:40 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: EDITED: Magnetricity Dynamo. Message-ID: <20060124.065857.4326.121394@webmail27.lax.untd.com> Clyde Lofton wrote: QUOTING ECOLONOMIST: DENNIS WEAVER: "MONEY IS LIKE MANURE..! IT IS..! IF YOU PILE IT UP; IT STINKS..! BUT IF YOU SPREAD IT AROUND; IT GROWS THINGS..!" --This is good! From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Jan 24 08:04:32 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Jan 24 08:04:53 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. Message-ID: <001801c620f7$7bd538a0$fcc5bc41@mikey> The man does lovely artwork. Too bad it won't work. Eventually, the run battery will discharge, and the device grinds to a halt. This is an interesting concept, combining a stepper motor and an alternator. The stator coils not being used to drive the field rotor are tapped for their output. But, it violates the First Law of thermodynamics to think this device can produce more energy than it consumes. This is a modernized version of the "falling weights" perpetual motion machine. In this device, weights are mounted on hinges attached to a rotor that rotates on a horizontal axis. The hinges have a stop on them, so that on one side of the rotor, they are perpendicular to the tangent of the rotor. On the other side, the weights hinge back to be tangent to the rotor. As one side of the device has a larger lever arm, gravity would make it spin forever. His design is also too lossy. The coils generate a back emf that will slow the rotor, the coil cores lose energy to hysteresis and eddy currents, frictional losses to air and bearings, losses in the electrochemistry of the storage battery, capacitor leakage, heat losses from the switching transistors, etc. With frictionless bearings, in a complete vacuum, superconducting electronics, perfect lossless inductor cores, and lossless energy storage, it would indeed run forever. But you could not make it do any work, lest it spins down and dies. It is a nice doorstop, paperweight, or perhaps an anchor for a small watercraft. But an overunity generator it is not. -MB From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 09:49:38 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 09:49:49 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <001801c620f7$7bd538a0$fcc5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20060124164938.15723.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> Michael Best wrote: The man does lovely artwork. Too bad it won't work. Eventually, the run battery will discharge, and the device grinds to a halt. This is an interesting concept, combining a stepper motor and an alternator. The stator coils not being used to drive the field rotor are tapped for their output. But, it violates the First Law of thermodynamics HOW ABOUT WE THE PEOPLE; OR WE THE MAD SCIENTISTS, CREATE A FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD LAW OF (SUPERCONDUCTING) MAGNET-O-DYNAMICS? / ELECTRO-MAGNETRO AND ELECTRO-MAGNETRICIT-DYNAMICS. THE AUDIO RADIO SCIENCE ANTENNA TOPOLOGY SACRED GEOMETRY UNIFIED FILED THEORY IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE, BETWEEN SUPERCONDUCTIVITY AND MAGNETRICITY..! UNITY IS IN THE # 8; THOUGH MOST, IF NOT ALL OTHER NUMERALS HAVE INVOLVEMENT SOMEWHERE IN THE GRAND PICTURE OF UNITY; THERE IS A RELATION TO THE 8 POINTED ABSOLUTE PERFECT, SYMMETRIC STAR, SOMEWHERE . THE MOST ELEMENTARY GRIDPOINTS ARE THE INDUCTIVE REACTANT, AND THE CAPACITIVE REACTANT - X'D, BOXED, AND HEXED. CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/eb52c2d6/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 10:32:22 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 10:32:35 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <001801c620f7$7bd538a0$fcc5bc41@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Jan 24, 2006 10:04:32 AM Message-ID: <20060124173222.53964.qmail@mall-net.com> > The man does lovely artwork. Too bad it won't work. Well, we don't know this for sure... just for almost 99.98% sure. > This is an interesting concept, combining a stepper motor and an = > alternator. > The stator coils not being used to drive the field rotor are tapped for > their output. Ok, so you understand how it would function. (I'm in software, remember?) BUT... there are fluxes and such which might be tapped. We have a weak warble in the geomagnetic field, about 10%. Could this warble upset magnetic fields of this device enough to let it tap them? Are there other mechanisms we could build which could tap the movement of such flux? How much energy per cubic meter is there in the geomagnetic warble? How do we calculate that? How can it be tapped? > But, it violates the First Law of thermodynamics to think this device can > produce more energy than it consumes. This is a modernized version of = > the "falling weights" perpetual motion machine. In this device, weights are The laws of thermodynamics are ok; but not all perpetual motion is perpetual motion, not all seemingly perpetual motion devices have to, by definition, violate the laws of thermodynamics. They can be paddle wheels stuck in some energy waterfall or tidal sluice we don't commonly think of; and thus still be physics-legal while actually producing free energy. Well, doesn't zero point energy violate the laws of thermodynamics? We have a set of laws which work in the man-sized. But we have seen that some things may not hold at the smaller scales. We won't find them if we don't look. We may not find them if we DO look... But you never know! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no physicist, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as physics advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 10:40:14 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 10:40:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124164938.15723.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 24, 2006 08:49:38 AM Message-ID: <20060124174014.59022.qmail@mall-net.com> > HOW ABOUT WE THE PEOPLE; OR WE THE MAD > SCIENTISTS, CREATE A FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD > LAW OF (SUPERCONDUCTING) MAGNET-O-DYNAMICS? / > ELECTRO-MAGNETRO AND ELECTRO-MAGNETRICIT-DYNAMICS. We can not create physical laws. Physical laws describe succinctly that which is. Only that which created the universe can create physical laws. All we can do, is to try to understand the physical laws, and look for loopholes. -J- (C) 2006, javilk@mall-net.com ------------------ www.mall-net.com/javilk --- Laugh at yourself, Our Creator loves company -- and You! --------------- --- After all, we wouldn't want our Creator to cancel the show, would we? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/javilk/ From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 11:47:56 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 11:48:07 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEAVILY CORRECTED AND REVISED: Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <001801c620f7$7bd538a0$fcc5bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20060124184756.97840.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> HEAVILY CORRECTED AND REVISED: Michael Best < mbest@triad.rr.com > wrote: The man does lovely artwork. Too bad it won't work. Eventually, the run battery will discharge, and the device grinds to a halt. This is an interesting concept, combining a stepper motor and an alternator. The stator coils not being used to drive the field rotor are tapped for their output. But, it violates the First Law of thermodynamics HOW ABOUT WE MAD SCIENTISTS CREATE A FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD LAW OF (SUPERCONDUCTING) MAGNET'-T'(R)O-DYNAMICS; ELEC'TRO-MAGNET'TRO DYNAMICS; AND ELEC'TRO-MAGNET'TRICIT-DYNAMICS..? A COMBINATION OF SACRED GEOMETRY, SACRED TOPOLOGY, AUDIO RADIO SCIENCE - ANTENNA GEOMETRY, AND ANTENNA TOPOLOGY SCIENCES..! THE UNIFIED FIELD THEORY IS THERE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SUPERCONDUCTIVITY AND MAGNETRICITY; MAYBE EVEN SOME FORM OF LINKAGE SOMEWHERE IN THERE TO ACOUSTIC ENERGY AS WELL. LINKS - SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TESLA, LEEDSKALNIN, AND MODERN SUPERCONDUCTIVE MAGNETIC SCIENCE, AUDIO RADIO SCIENCE, AND ACOUSTIC SCIENCES; HIGH VOLTAGE LIGHTNING SCIENCES; ULTRA LOW FREQUENCY (U.L.F.) AND EXTRA LOW FREQUENCY (E.L.F.) SCIENCES, SEISMIC SCIENCES, INFRASONIC - SONIC - ULTRASONIC - SUPERSONIC - AND HYPERSONIC AUDIO / ACOUSTICS SCIENCES, HEAT (HOT) AND COLD (CRYSTALLYSIS) SCIENCES AND ELECTRICIT AND MAGNETIC WAVE SCIENCES, TEMPERATURE AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY SCIENCES, TORNADO AND HURRICANE VORTEXIAL SCIENCES, AND THE DARK AND THE LIGHT SCIENCES. UNITY IS IN THE # 8; THOUGH MOST, IF NOT ALL OTHER NUMERALS HAVE INVOLVEMENT SOMEWHERE IN THE GRAND SCHEME PICTURE OF UNITY AS WELL; ~THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOME RELATION TO REALITY AND ENERGY GENERATION, WITH BOTH THE 8 POINTED, ABSOLUTE PERFECT, SYMMETRIC GEOMETRIC OF THE TETRASTAR TOPOLOGY, IN A COMBINATION W THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT, SYMMETRIC GEOMETRY OF THE HEXASTAR TOPOLOGY.~ [ALL SCREWED UP - CONFUSION..!] THE MOST ELEMENTARY GRIDPOINTS ARE THE INDUCTIVE REACTANT, AND THE CAPACITIVE REACTANT: X'D; HEXED; CUBED; CIRCLED; SPHERED; TRIANGLED; AND TETRAHEED; ETC.... NATIVE CULTURE SACRED GEOMETRY, AND NATIVE CULTURE SACRED TOPOLOGY. LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO BUILD A SIMPLE INSULATED WIRE - 90 DEGREE ANGLE CROSSPOINT - 'X' SYMMETRIC GRIDPOINT, WITH EACH OF THE TWO WIRES BOTH CROSSING AT PERFECT DIRECT CENTER, RELATIVE TO BOTH WIRE LENGTHS; ZIP TIED TO ONE ANOTHER AT CENTER; YET KEEPING THEM SEPERATED, AND INDUCTIVELY REACTANT TO ONE ANOTHER, AT CENTER. EACH INSULATED WIRE, CROSSED AT A PERFECT RIGHT ANGLE, RELATIVE TO THE OTHER, BUT NOT HAVING ANY ELECTROCONDUCTIVE JOINED CROSS CAPACITIVE CONDUCTANCE. MAINTAINING ONLY INDUCTIVE REACTANCE BTWEEN EACH WIRE, AT CENTER CROSSPOINT..! EACH INSULATED LONGWAVE WIRE, POWERED BY TWO 12 V.D.C. CAR BATTERIES - EACH BATTERY POLARIZED MAGNETRICIT'IVELY, RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER; AT THE INDUCTIVE 'INTERSECT' - CROSSPOINT. BOTH OF THE BATTERIES, INSULATED FROM EARTH GROUND; YET EACH OF THE TWO BATTERIES HAVING ONE OF THEIR TERMINALS CONNECTED TO ONE OF TWO GROUND RODS; [BATTERY POLARITY; IS RELATIVE TO THE LONGWAVE PHASING OF EACH WIRE, AND TO THE OTHER BATTERY, EQUALLY, AND THE RELATIVITY TO THE EARTH GROUND. ARE THERE ANY ODD AND BIZZARE LONGWAVE REACTIONS THAT WE MAY GET FROM THIS EXPERIMENT? GRAVITY WAVES POSSIBLY..? I DON'T KNOW..! I HAVEN'T GOT SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO CARRY OUT THE ESOTERIC SCIENCE EXPERIMENT; AND SO I AM MAKING IT PUBLIC DOMAIN HERE. ALSO; TESTING THE BATTERY POWERED GRIDPOINT WITH A STANDARD HIGH QUALITY, DIRECTION FINDING COMPASS, IS ALSO A THOUGHT TO DO TOO. [REMEBER..? ; THAT] EINSTEIN SAID THAT: "GRAVITY CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR PEOPLE FALLING IN LOVE." ..! WHAT DID MR. EINSTEIN MEAN BY THAT QUOTE..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/a97633bb/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 12:00:35 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:00:44 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: NSA Monitoring ha ha In-Reply-To: <20060124185225.15352.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124190035.3345.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: The latest on the NSA warrantless phone monitoring suggests it is * out-of-SUS communications only, * computerized scanning for key sounds in multiple languages, * triggers recording, * recordings are prioritized * recordings require human translation Key is out-of-USA If the communications are not directed within the USA, it IS legal for the NSA to intercept them. Indeed, many countries do this to communications to and from the USA, so why not us too.. This level, I believe to be prudent, constitutional, and well within the charters of the NSA and CIA. The flap is yet another big political smoke job by the Democratic party to scare those who do not think. Although some of this is to be expected in any political contest, I believe it is particularly vile of them to stoop this low in their attempts to inflame passions against Bush. Rationality must prevail! If America is to be a strong and honorable world power, rationality must prevail! This type of emotional mis-direction just isn't good for this nation. ITS BECOME ALL THE SAME TO ME, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STUPID / CURSED POLITICAL DIVIDE; DEMOCRAPS AND REFUCKLICANS HAVE EQUALLY SCREWED AMERICA UP; WITH EQUALITY; AND SO HAVE ALL OF WEE THE PEOPLE, IN ALL OF THE SHIT THAT WE HAVE DONE..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/5639ff5c/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 12:09:20 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:09:25 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124174014.59022.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060124190920.52618.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > HOW ABOUT WE THE PEOPLE; OR WE THE MAD > SCIENTISTS, CREATE A FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD > LAW OF (SUPERCONDUCTING) MAGNET-O-DYNAMICS? / > ELECTRO-MAGNETRO AND ELECTRO-MAGNETRICIT-DYNAMICS. We can not create physical laws. WHY..? THE BUEAROFATTS? - ALL OF THE TIME; FURTHER ENSLAVE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US WITH MORE AND MORE OVERLY COMPLEX RULES, OVERLY COMPLEX REGULATIONS, OVERLY COMPLEX OVERZONING ORDINANCES, AND OVERLY COMPLEX OVERTAXXXATION ORDINANCES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS; ETC; BY THE WEALTHY ELITE FEW, WHO ARE AT TOP..! Physical laws describe succinctly that which is. YES SOME; THOUGH NOT ALL OF THEM DO..! Only that which created the universe can create physical laws. All we can do, is to try to understand the physical laws, and look for loopholes. OK; GRIDPOINTS, AND GROUNDLOOPS, AND COILS AND CAPACITORS ARE ALL PART OF THE LOOPHOLES IN PHYSICAL SCIENCE LAWS..! CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/bf88183d/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 12:11:42 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:11:51 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CORRECTION TO PREVIOUS SPELLING. Message-ID: <20060124191142.17306.qmail@web50606.mail.yahoo.com> CORRECTION TO PREVIOUS SPELLING: THE BUREAU-FATS..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/2a22d6f7/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 12:16:29 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:16:37 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124190920.52618.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060124191629.48974.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> clyde lofton wrote: javilk@mall-net.com wrote: We can not create physical laws. I BEG TO DIFFER..! NEWTON: **CREATED** THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS..! HE DIDN'T JUST PULL THE LINGUISMS AND NUMERERISMS OUT OF NONEXISTANCE. IS THAT A CONTRADICTION; WHAT I JUST SAID..? A PARADOX..? CLYDE --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos ? Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we?ll bind it! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060124/3a908a14/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 12:19:19 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:19:27 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HEAVILY CORRECTED AND REVISED: Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124184756.97840.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 24, 2006 10:47:56 AM Message-ID: <20060124191919.32945.qmail@mall-net.com> > But, it violates the First Law of thermodynamics > > HOW ABOUT WE MAD SCIENTISTS CREATE A FIRST, SECOND, > AND THIRD LAW OF (SUPERCONDUCTING) MAGNET'-T'(R)O-DYNAMICS; > ELEC'TRO-MAGNET'TRO DYNAMICS; AND As I said, the physical laws are God's realm. All we can do, is try to understand them... and look for loopholes. However, we can not be 100% sure that we do know all the forces and laws of nature. We think we know, but it's only 99.98%. > ~THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOME RELATION TO REALITY AND ENERGY > GENERATION, WITH BOTH THE 8 POINTED, ABSOLUTE PERFECT, > SYMMETRIC GEOMETRIC OF THE TETRASTAR TOPOLOGY, IN A COMBINATION W THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT, SYMMETRIC GEOMETRY OF THE HEXASTAR TOPOLOGY.~ [ALL SCREWED UP - CONFUSION..!] > THE MOST ELEMENTARY GRIDPOINTS ARE THE > INDUCTIVE REACTANT, AND THE CAPACITIVE REACTANT: > X'D; HEXED; CUBED; CIRCLED; SPHERED; TRIANGLED; > AND TETRAHEED; ETC.... > NATIVE CULTURE SACRED GEOMETRY, AND NATIVE CULTURE > SACRED TOPOLOGY. No principles that I know which would suggest we get any energy out of such a thing. Science is about principles, about finding how they interact. Some one sees something in some theory that might create an interaction which might be meaningful, calculates things based on that, then proposes an experiment to see if the thing actually might occur. The proposal is reviewed by other scientists, and either rejected or sent on to apply for funding. So before we even think about building such geometric shapes, what are the principles and calculations which you would use to support the expenditure of such funds for this project vs, say, feeding some starving children in the Sudan or somewhere else? > LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO BUILD A SIMPLE INSULATED > WIRE - 90 DEGREE ANGLE CROSSPOINT - 'X' SYMMETRIC GRIDPOINT, > WITH EACH OF THE TWO WIRES BOTH CROSSING AT PERFECT DIRECT > CENTER, RELATIVE TO BOTH WIRE LENGTHS; ZIP TIED TO ONE > ANOTHER AT CENTER; YET KEEPING THEM SEPERATED, AND > INDUCTIVELY REACTANT TO ONE ANOTHER, AT CENTER. > EACH INSULATED WIRE, CROSSED AT A PERFECT RIGHT ANGLE, > RELATIVE TO THE OTHER, BUT NOT HAVING ANY ELECTROCONDUCTIVE > JOINED CROSS CAPACITIVE CONDUCTANCE. > MAINTAINING ONLY INDUCTIVE REACTANCE BTWEEN EACH WIRE, AT > CENTER CROSSPOINT..! > EACH INSULATED LONGWAVE WIRE, POWERED BY TWO 12 V.D.C. > CAR BATTERIES - EACH BATTERY POLARIZED MAGNETRICIT'IVELY, > RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER; AT THE INDUCTIVE 'INTERSECT' - > CROSSPOINT. That is an experimental setup. There is no theory mentioned here to justify creating such a setup. What is the theory you are trying to prove? > BOTH OF THE BATTERIES, INSULATED FROM EARTH GROUND; YET > EACH OF THE TWO BATTERIES HAVING ONE OF THEIR TERMINALS > CONNECTED TO ONE OF TWO GROUND RODS; [BATTERY POLARITY; > IS RELATIVE TO THE LONGWAVE PHASING OF EACH WIRE, AND TO > THE OTHER BATTERY, EQUALLY, AND THE RELATIVITY TO THE EARTH > GROUND. > ARE THERE ANY ODD AND BIZZARE LONGWAVE REACTIONS THAT > WE MAY GET FROM THIS EXPERIMENT? > GRAVITY WAVES POSSIBLY..? > I DON'T KNOW..! You should be able to apply ordinary radio theory to calculate such interactions. With a little bit of computer programming, not that hard to do, you should be able to step through various lengths of wires and various voltages, as well as exposures to typical ambient RF, etc. Give us some charts, some formulas, something that sounds interesting. Those calculations would be the basis for determining whether anything of interest is likely to occur. THEN, if the calculations suggest something interesting is likely, or at least some interesting ambiguities are likely; THEN one may have a chance of proposing an experiment related to that with some chance of gettng funding. But without some theory and calculations behind it, most peer reviews will reject it. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 12:24:18 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:24:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124191629.48974.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 24, 2006 11:16:29 AM Message-ID: <20060124192418.36296.qmail@mall-net.com> > We can not create physical laws. > > I BEG TO DIFFER..! > NEWTON: **CREATED** THE LAWS OF > THERMODYNAMICS..! > HE DIDN'T JUST PULL THE LINGUISMS > AND NUMERERISMS OUT OF NONEXISTANCE. > IS THAT A CONTRADICTION; WHAT I JUST > SAID..? > A PARADOX..? Newton did not create the laws of thermodynamics. The laws of thermodynamics existed long before the earth, the sun, or our galaxy were created. Newton discovered certain consistencies in how things worked, abstracted them, stated them clearly and called them the laws of thermodynamics. Newton merely described them linguistically. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no physicist, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as physics advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. From javilk at mall-net.com Tue Jan 24 12:32:46 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Tue Jan 24 12:32:50 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: NSA Monitoring ha ha In-Reply-To: <20060124190035.3345.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 24, 2006 11:00:35 AM Message-ID: <20060124193246.42905.qmail@mall-net.com> This was intended as private communication between three people. It is considered rather declasse (gauche, even) to put it into the public realm without permission. > Key is out-of-USA If the communications are not directed within the > USA, it IS legal for the NSA to intercept them. Indeed, many countries > do this to communications to and from the USA, so why not us too.. > The flap is yet another big political smoke job by the Democratic > party to scare those who do not think. Although some of this is to be > expected in any political contest, I believe it is particularly vile of > them to stoop this low in their attempts to inflame passions against > Bush. Rationality must prevail! If America is to be a strong and > honorable world power, rationality must prevail! This type of emotional > mis-direction just isn't good for this nation. > > ITS BECOME ALL THE SAME TO ME, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE > STUPID / CURSED POLITICAL DIVIDE; DEMOCRAPS AND > REFUCKLICANS HAVE EQUALLY SCREWED AMERICA UP; > WITH EQUALITY; AND SO HAVE ALL OF WEE THE PEOPLE, IN > ALL OF THE SHIT THAT WE HAVE DONE..! Some of us DO understand the subtilities involved, and they are not that subtle to us; more like a major point. Just because you don't understand the arguments Mike and I have about the constitution, etc. does not mean they are to be bandied about like so much dirty laundry for others to see. Particularly when they may easily be misconstrued. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 25 09:04:50 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 25 09:04:56 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Neo-Gen dynamo. In-Reply-To: <20060124192418.36296.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060125160450.95686.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > We can not create physical laws. > > I BEG TO DIFFER..! > NEWTON: **CREATED** THE LAWS OF > THERMODYNAMICS..! > HE DIDN'T JUST PULL THE LINGUISMS > AND NUMERERISMS OUT OF NONEXISTANCE. > IS THAT A CONTRADICTION; WHAT I JUST > SAID..? > A PARADOX..? Newton did not create the laws of thermodynamics. SO. The laws of thermodynamics existed long before the earth, the sun, or our galaxy were created. TO BAD THEY WERE NOT TRANSLATED BY AAAH-DUMB AND EEEV, IN THE GENESIS, OF BIBLICAL HISTUURY..! Newton discovered certain consistencies in how things worked, abstracted them, stated them clearly and called them the laws of thermodynamics. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ALL PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND; OR AT LEAST; NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WHERE SCIENCE CLASS TEACHERS CONVEY THAT INTELLECTUAL INFORMATION IN A CLEAR, AND CONCISE TRITE WAY; EQUAL FOR ALL PEOPLE TO UNDER STAND; EVERYONE OUT THERE, WHO YEARNS TO LEARN..! Newton merely described them linguistically. YES; SO NEWTON WAS A TRANSLATOR; IN OTHER WORDS; NEWTON WAS A TRANSLATIONER..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060125/bbf1af2b/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 25 09:26:24 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 25 09:26:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: N.S.A. Monitoring; Ha Ha, In-Reply-To: <20060124193246.42905.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060125162625.13926.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: This was intended as private communication between three people. It is considered rather declasse (gauche, even) to put it into the public realm without permission. > ITS BECOME ALL THE SAME TO ME, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE > STUPID / CURSED POLITICAL DIVIDE; DEMOCRAPS AND > REFUCKLICANS HAVE EQUALLY SCREWED AMERICA UP; > WITH EQUALITY; AND SO HAVE ALL OF WEE THE PEOPLE, IN > ALL OF THE SHIT THAT WE HAVE DONE..! Some of us DO understand the subtilities involved, and they are not that subtle to us; more like a major point. Just because you don't understand the arguments Mike and I have about the constitution, etc. does not mean they are to be bandied about like so much dirty laundry for others to see. PEOPLE LIKE IT WHEN YOU LOSE - PEOPLE LIKE DIRTY LAUNDRY; SONG: DIRTY LAUNDRY; BY: DON HENLEY. Particularly when they may easily be misconstrued. (TOO BAD IT ISN'T LINGUISTICALLY SPELLED AND USED CORRECTLY..! MIS-STRUED IS THE TRUE SPELLING / MEANING; THE WORD; CON HAS BEEN 'COVERTLY' ADDED, BY LINGUISTS OF THE PAST, TO CON PEOPLE OUT THEIR MONEY AND OTHER RESOURCES, THROUGHOUT HISTORY.) MIS[-CON-]STRUED, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE WEALTHY CON MEN IN THE THE CORPORATE MEDIA; THE CORPORATE MILITARY; AND THE JUST OVERLY COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE OVERLY WASTEFUL GOVERNEMENT, ETC. IT'S ABOUT TIME THIS COUNTRY GOT BACK ON AN HONEST PATH A PATH, EQUAL FOR EVERYONE: WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL; LIKE IT USED TO BE; AND LIKE IT IS STILL SUPPOSED TO BE..! ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS PART OF A SOLUTION TO THE MORALITY / IMMORALITY DILLEMMA THAT MODERN AMERICA IS FACING, WITH THE CULTURAL DIVIDE ISSUE..! ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, TO SHARE WITH OTHERS, CAN MAKE A BETTER FUTURE FOR MORE FOLKS OTHER THAN JUST MYSELF ALONE; AND I CAN'T BE SELFISH WITH THE TECHNOLOGY ANYWAY; BECAUSE IT IS JUST TOO STRESSFUL FOR ME. PEOPLE ALL AROUND, HERE IN TULSA; NEIGHBORS, ETC, HAD BEEN CLAMMORING TO FIND OUT WHAT I DID; WHEN I WAS NEARING THE COMPLETION OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT PROJECT. SO MAKING WHAT I DID, INTO PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE WAS MANDATORY, I GUESS..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060125/4e37e2a5/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Jan 25 12:38:03 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Jan 25 12:38:23 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: N.S.A. Monitoring; Ha Ha, In-Reply-To: <20060125162625.13926.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 25, 2006 08:26:24 AM Message-ID: <20060125193803.94411.qmail@mall-net.com> > This was intended as private communication between three people. It > > ITS BECOME ALL THE SAME TO ME, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE > > STUPID / CURSED POLITICAL DIVIDE; DEMOCRAPS AND > Some of us DO understand the subtilities involved, and they are not > that subtle to us; more like a major point. Just because you don't > understand the arguments Mike and I have about the constitution, etc. > does not mean they are to be bandied about like so much dirty laundry > for others to see. > > PEOPLE LIKE IT WHEN YOU LOSE - PEOPLE LIKE DIRTY > LAUNDRY; SONG: DIRTY LAUNDRY; BY: DON HENLEY. Not really, Clyde. Why do you think etiquette evolved? To create better examples to live by. To enhance respect of others and of self. To help people get along. Sure, some insecure people want to see that others are not so great, only to give them the sense they are not as bad off as they think they may be. Most people DO NOT like to see dirty laundry; they want to see things work right, and take pleasure in seeing others succeed because it gives them the feeling they too can succeed, gives them the feeling that all is right with the world and them in it. > Particularly when they may easily be misconstrued. > > (TOO BAD IT ISN'T LINGUISTICALLY SPELLED AND USED CORRECTLY..! > MIS-STRUED IS THE TRUE SPELLING / MEANING; THE WORD; CON > HAS BEEN 'COVERTLY' ADDED, BY LINGUISTS OF THE PAST, TO > CON PEOPLE OUT THEIR MONEY AND OTHER RESOURCES, > THROUGHOUT HISTORY.) Not really. Con means together. So the word means put together the wrong way. Conspiracy means a group that breathes together. Confabulate means put a bunch of fables together. Con man comes from confidence man, one who creates unusual confidence, then betrays it for his own ends. > MIS[-CON-]STRUED, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE WEALTHY CON MEN IN > THE THE CORPORATE MEDIA; THE CORPORATE MILITARY; AND THE > JUST OVERLY COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE OVERLY WASTEFUL > GOVERNEMENT, ETC. > IT'S ABOUT TIME THIS COUNTRY GOT BACK ON AN HONEST PATH > A PATH, EQUAL FOR EVERYONE: WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR > ALL; LIKE IT USED TO BE; AND LIKE IT IS STILL SUPPOSED TO BE..! It is easy to believe the world is evil if one does not understand how it works. For without knowledge, it is easy to feel that many things are working against one rather than for one. For example, advertising. If we didn't have advertising, not enough people would buy a thing to have it made via mass production. Hand production, craftwork, as they use to call it, is many, many times more expensive than mass production. And out of mass production, comes standards, which allow parts to be used in many different items, allowing further economies of scale via mass production. A friend of mine decided to learn a little blacksmithing. In blacksmithing, NOTHING is the same! Everything has to be built up custom fitted piece by custom fitted piece. A HUGE time consumer! If you had to do that to build an automobile, that automobile would cost more than your extended family could afford. Only the ultra-rich could afford the automobiles before Henry Ford devised a way of mass production. And from that idea -- mass production -- came a huge amount of the material wealth of this society. Standardize the parts, standardize the steps, and keep repeating the steps. And soon, you find other uses for the standard parts and other things that can be made with the standard steps. Not only do you get standard interchangeable parts, you also cut training costs down, cut thinking time down, end up being able to hire more people faster, get production ramped up, etc. You streamline everything so that you can make that grandfather clock mechanism for $50, instead of $5,000. And then for $10 using heavy automation. > ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS PART OF A > SOLUTION TO THE MORALITY / IMMORALITY DILLEMMA THAT > MODERN AMERICA IS FACING, WITH THE CULTURAL DIVIDE ISSUE..! > ELECTROMAGNETIC BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT, TO SHARE WITH > OTHERS, CAN MAKE A BETTER FUTURE FOR MORE FOLKS > OTHER THAN JUST MYSELF ALONE; AND I CAN'T BE SELFISH WITH > THE TECHNOLOGY ANYWAY; BECAUSE IT IS JUST TOO STRESSFUL > FOR ME. Most people don't need it. Some people do. > PEOPLE ALL AROUND, HERE IN TULSA; NEIGHBORS, ETC, HAD > BEEN CLAMMORING TO FIND OUT WHAT I DID; WHEN I WAS > NEARING THE COMPLETION OF THE ELECTROMAGNETIC > BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT PROJECT. > SO MAKING WHAT I DID, INTO PUBLIC DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE WAS > MANDATORY, I GUESS..! Why do you think they want to know? Why do you think they even care what you do? Most of these people don't even care much what the mayor of Tulsa does! -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 25 13:45:22 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 25 13:45:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOW CAN.... Message-ID: <20060125204522.16279.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> HOW CAN I GET THE FOLLOWING THINGS DONE? 1. INVESTIGATION INTO THE LOCAL I.S.P. THAT THE HOME P.C. IS LINKED THROUGH. 2. INVESTIGATION INTO THE L.A.N. 3. HAVING S.B.C. CHECK ALL TELEPHONE BOXES FOR THE BROKEN HOME. 4. HAVING A.E.P. P.S.O. ENGINEERS INSPECT THE PAD MOUNTED POWER DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMER, FOR ANY POSSIBLE PROBLEM(S). 5. INVESTIGATION INTO ERROR 678; A REMOTE COMPUTER "DIALING COX CABLE; AN UNNECESARY SPYWARE PROGRAM, INSTALLED SOMEWHERE ON THE COMPUTER HARDRIVE; AND THE TRANSFERRING OF MY DATA TO WHO KNOWS WHERE. CLYDE --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060125/dd8d1750/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Jan 25 14:20:28 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Jan 25 14:20:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOW CAN.... In-Reply-To: <20060125204522.16279.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 25, 2006 12:45:22 PM Message-ID: <20060125212028.69963.qmail@mall-net.com> > HOW CAN I GET THE FOLLOWING THINGS > DONE? > > 1. INVESTIGATION INTO THE LOCAL I.S.P. > THAT THE HOME P.C. IS LINKED THROUGH. They are doing the best they can using poorly qualified minimum wage for that class of work people. Running an ISP isn't a good business. > 2. INVESTIGATION INTO THE L.A.N. Lan, local area network. That's the cable modem box, your local router, and any PCs you have connected. It's your responsibility. Get a Linux machine up and use TCPDUMP if you want to see what is on the LAN. Most LAN systems have little LEDs associated with the connections of the cables. Follow the cable between the hub or cable modem, and see if there are LEDs for the wires on both ends, and if so, whether both are lit. If not, then you may have a bad cable. > 3. HAVING S.B.C. CHECK ALL TELEPHONE > BOXES FOR THE BROKEN HOME. You can trace the wires in your own home, look at the connections. Not hard. If you are using Cox as your broadband supplier, then the telephone boxes are not relevant. > 4. HAVING A.E.P. P.S.O. ENGINEERS > INSPECT THE PAD MOUNTED POWER > DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMER, FOR ANY > POSSIBLE PROBLEM(S). Look at the transformer at night. If the red light on the transformer is on, report it. Otherwise no problems. get a good RMS voltmeter and see what the voltage levels are. If below 110 or over 125, report it. But basically, if your lights and appliances work, it's not a problem. > 5. INVESTIGATION INTO ERROR 678; A > REMOTE COMPUTER "DIALING COX CABLE; > AN UNNECESARY SPYWARE PROGRAM, > INSTALLED SOMEWHERE ON THE COMPUTER > HARDRIVE; AND THE TRANSFERRING OF > MY DATA TO WHO KNOWS WHERE. Unknown. Cox is not doing a good job. Google it. error 678 cox. there's something on it that makes me think it's a DNS issue or other connectivity issue. If that does not make it clear, then call Cox support and speak to a technician. My bet is that you don't have your DNS server addresses set properly; but I can't tell if you are even close to that. If you loaded Linux, it would be a heck of a lot easier. That's why I suggested you get in touch with the Tulsa Linux User's Group, and gave you the URL for it. Have you done any of those things? Things don't happen by themselves. You have these things in reverse order. Start with 5. If that doesn't resolve your PC issue, then move on to 2, then 3. Item 4 is not a problem because your lights and other appliances work. Item 1... you are linked through Cox, and I think your ISP probably does not play a role when it comes to using the web; only when you start getting the e-mail. Are you sure your ISP is not Cox? -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Wed Jan 25 15:41:09 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Wed Jan 25 15:41:54 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [EXPANDED:] EIGHT POINTED GEOMETRY / EIGHT POINTED STARS - SACRED GEOMETRY WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20060125224109.60785.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> EXPANDED: EIGHT POINTED GEOMETRY / EIGHT POINTED STARS - SACRED GEOMETRY WEBLINKS: 1. http://www.timestar.org/timestar.htm 2. http://www.finepueblopottery.com/Acoma.htm 3. http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/codex_morpheu/imposed.html 4. http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/codex_morpheu/geometry.html 5. http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/Monte.html 6. http://mathforum.org/~sarah/shapiro/shapiro.inscribed.grids.html 7. http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/research/gnomon.html 8. http://www.sfusd.K12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/Art/Art2.html 9. http://www.studyworksonline.com/cda/content/worksheet/0,,NAV2-95_SWK1859,00.shtml 10. http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/ow/d26c943e4ec024d3a19afeb4da09e526.html 11. http://www.marthastewart.com/page.jhtml?type=content&id=channel172046 12. http://www.northernpinedesigns.com/8star.html 13. http://www.antiquequilts.com/cl12373.htm 14. http://softexpressions.com/software/books/Crzy8.php 15. http://www.electricquilt.com/Albums/05/0503/0503p11.htm 16. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s09/p0500.html 17. http://pages.prodigy.net/pizzabagel/CompassRoses_Links.htm 18. http://www.resurrectisis.org/Tower1.htm 19. http://www.company-wizard.co.uk/ODP/cat2.asp?Science/Physics/Alternative/ 20. http://www.sacredscience.com/store/commerce.cgi?product=ORD 21. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/ 22. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/energy/DipoleMotor/dm01.html 23. http://www.miqel.com/pure-math-patterns/visual-math-platonic.html 24. http://29.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CO/COMPASS.htm 25. http://softexpressions.com/software/books/1marinerComp.html 26. http://www.kstrom.net/isk/stars/starkno3.html 27. http://www.truetiedye.com/index.cfm?print=1&id=EB019A05-C03F-440F-BDEEECEBC3F6C838 28. http://homestead.com/compassjewelry/ 29. http://members.aol.com/TombView/symbol2.html 30. http://www.mandalas.com/ 31. http://mandalaproject.org 32. http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/SGEO/CGMandalas.html 33. http://www.peacefulpaths.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=dreamcat.htm&cart_id=3150024.24250 34. http://www.teachersfirst.com/summer/dreamcatcher.htm 35. http://www.clem.mscd.edu/~talman/mandalas.html 36. http://www.compassroses.com/theidea.shtml 37. http://www.abgoodwin.com/mandala/gallery1.shtml 38. http://www.stormy.ca/marine/mar_ims/compass_rose.gif 39. http://www.feb.se/REFERENCES/refs.txt 40. http://www.google.org.uk/Top/Science/Anomalies_and_Alternative_Science/ 41. http://www.imr.sandia.gov/papers/imr12/rajagopalan03.pdf#search='TETRAHEDRAL%20FRACTAL%20TOPOLOGY.' 42. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/KochSnowflake.html 43. http://www.photovault.com/Link/Nature/Weather/Lightning/NWLVolume01.html --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060125/43f0f702/attachment-0001.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 26 11:19:14 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 26 11:19:22 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity Message-ID: <20060126181914.55425.qmail@mall-net.com> This one's for you, Clyde. Some people are sensitive to electricity. Rare, but a known medical problem, at least in Sweden and a few other countries. Less accepted in the USA, but cases exist. A study shows that some people are affected by spikes and surges in the power lines. Some talk of how to deal with it. http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/research/Havas_Stetzer_WHO04.pdf -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 26 12:58:54 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 26 12:59:07 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] [FURTHER EXPANDED:] EIGHT POINTED GEOMETRY / EIGHT POINTED STARS - SACRED GEOMETRY WEBLINKS. Message-ID: <20060126195855.15888.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> FURTHER EXPANDED: EIGHT POINTED GEOMETRY / EIGHT POINTED STARS - SACRED GEOMETRY WEBLINKS: 1. http://www.timestar.org/timestar.htm 2. http://www.finepueblopottery.com/Acoma.htm 3. http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/codex_morpheu/imposed.html 4. http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/codex_morpheu/geometry.html 5. http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/Monte.html 6. http://mathforum.org/~sarah/shapiro/shapiro.inscribed.grids.html 7. http://www.sangraal.com/AMET/research/gnomon.html 8. http://www.sfusd.K12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/Art/Art2.html 9. http://www.studyworksonline.com/cda/content/worksheet/0,,NAV2-95_SWK1859,00.shtml 10. http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/ow/d26c943e4ec024d3a19afeb4da09e526.html 11. http://www.marthastewart.com/page.jhtml?type=content&id=channel172046 12. http://www.northernpinedesigns.com/8star.html 13. http://www.antiquequilts.com/cl12373.htm 14. http://softexpressions.com/software/books/Crzy8.php 15. http://www.electricquilt.com/Albums/05/0503/0503p11.htm 16. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s09/p0500.html 17. http://pages.prodigy.net/pizzabagel/CompassRoses_Links.htm 18. http://www.resurrectisis.org/Tower1.htm 19. http://www.company-wizard.co.uk/ODP/cat2.asp?Science/Physics/Alternative/ 20. http://www.sacredscience.com/store/commerce.cgi?product=ORD 21. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/ 22. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/energy/DipoleMotor/dm01.html 23. http://www.miqel.com/pure-math-patterns/visual-math-platonic.html 24. http://29.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CO/COMPASS.htm 25. http://softexpressions.com/software/books/1marinerComp.html 26. http://www.kstrom.net/isk/stars/starkno3.html 27. http://www.truetiedye.com/index.cfm?print=1&id=EB019A05-C03F-440F-BDEEECEBC3F6C838 28. http://homestead.com/compassjewelry/ 29. http://members.aol.com/TombView/symbol2.html 30. http://www.mandalas.com/ 31. http://mandalaproject.org 32. http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/SGEO/CGMandalas.html 33. http://www.peacefulpaths.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=dreamcat.htm&cart_id=3150024.24250 34. http://www.teachersfirst.com/summer/dreamcatcher.htm 35. http://www.clem.mscd.edu/~talman/mandalas.html 36. http://www.compassroses.com/theidea.shtml 37. http://www.abgoodwin.com/mandala/gallery1.shtml 38. http://www.stormy.ca/marine/mar_ims/compass_rose.gif 39. http://www.feb.se/REFERENCES/refs.txt 40. http://www.google.org.uk/Top/Science/Anomalies_and_Alternative_Science/ 41. http://www.imr.sandia.gov/papers/imr12/rajagopalan03.pdf#search='TETRAHEDRAL%20FRACTAL%20TOPOLOGY.' 42. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/KochSnowflake.html 43. http://www.photovault.com/Link/Nature/Weather/Lightning/NWLVolume01.html 44. http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/morton/uk01ab.html 45. http://www.spiritmythos.org/TM/divine-fire/phigate.htm 46. http://www.twinmiracle.com/pages/sections/section_4.html 47. http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/XML/Design/MDL_XML_Requirements.doc 48. http://www.cfd-online.com/Forum/main_archive.cgi?read=38047 49. http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~feegi/compass.html 50. http://www.brasscompass.com/clockboxed.htm 51. http://www.wesleyan.edu/physics/demos/ 52. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00159.htm 53. http://www.westsea.com/tsg3/itemlocker/03pixlocker/03-97CARD.JPG 54. http://www.westsea.com/tsg3/itemlocker/09pixlocker/09-59.jpg 55. http://www.westsea.com/tsg3/itemlocker/09pixlocker/09-59SIGNATURE.JPG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060126/b3f00054/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 26 13:03:23 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 26 13:03:29 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060126181914.55425.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060126200323.9529.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: This one's for you, Clyde. Some people are sensitive to electricity. Rare, but a known medical problem, at least in Sweden and a few other countries. Less accepted in the USA, but cases exist. A study shows that some people are affected by spikes and surges in the power lines. Some talk of how to deal with it. http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/research/Havas_Stetzer_WHO04.pdf AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE; IT IS VERY VERY ACCURATELY TELLING THE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060126/5294a7d2/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 26 13:29:46 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 26 13:29:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOW CAN.... In-Reply-To: <20060125212028.69963.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060126202946.17472.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > 2. INVESTIGATION INTO THE L.A.N. Lan, local area network. That's the cable modem box, your local router, and any PCs you have connected. It's your responsibility. Get a Linux machine up and use TCPDUMP if you want to see what is on the LAN. Most LAN systems have little LEDs associated with the connections of the cables. Follow the cable between the hub or cable modem, and see if there are LEDs for the wires on both ends, and if so, whether both are lit. If not, then you may have a bad cable. > 3. HAVING S.B.C. CHECK ALL TELEPHONE > BOXES FOR THE BROKEN HOME. You can trace the wires in your own home, look at the connections. Not hard. If you are using Cox as your broadband supplier, then the telephone boxes are not relevant. NONSENSE; THE TELEPHONE TAP IS EITHER LOCATED OUTSIDE, IN NEIGHBORS BACKYARD(S) IN ONE OF THE TELEPHONE BOXES; OR IS LOCATED AT SOME DISTANT OR LONG DISTANT LOCATION. I HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS; I CANNOT GO OUT THERE MYSELF TO DO THE CHECKING. I ALMOST GOT IN TROUBLE IN THE PAST, FOR TAPPING INTO THE CABLE BOX, TO GET FREE CABLE T.V. ..! > 4. HAVING A.E.P. P.S.O. ENGINEERS > INSPECT THE PAD MOUNTED POWER > DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMER, FOR ANY > POSSIBLE PROBLEM(S). Look at the transformer at night. I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN A RED LIGHT, OR ANY RED LIGHTS, ON ANY PAD MOUNTED RESIDENTIAL DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS..! I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A REALITY, UNLESS I HAVE JUST NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE. If the red light on the transformer is on, report it. AS I SAID ABOVE; I DON'T THINK THAT RED LIGHTS EXIST ON RESIDENTIAL DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS. THE TRANSFORMER IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BACK YARD, AND SO I CANNOT TRESSPASS ON THEIR PROPERTY, AS THEY CANNOT TRESSPASS ON MY PROPERTY, BY LAW. Otherwise no problems. Get a good RMS voltmeter and see what the voltage levels are. TOO FUCKING BAD THAT THAT IS UNAFFORDABLE BY MYSELF. If below 110 or over 125, report it. But basically, if your lights and appliances work, it's not a problem. I'VE SEEN THE SINGLE FLORESCENT, AND MY PLAZA GLOBE FLICKER, AT SPECIFIC RATES OF TIME, AS THOUGH THE MAINS TO THE BROKEN HOME ARE BEING MODULATED BY AN AUDIO SOURCE..! THAT IS EVIDENCE ENOUGH, FOR ME TO BE SUSPICIOUS OF CARRIER CURRENT GOINGS ON..! > 5. INVESTIGATION INTO ERROR 678; A > REMOTE COMPUTER "DIALING COX CABLE; > AN UNNECESARY SPYWARE PROGRAM, > INSTALLED SOMEWHERE ON THE COMPUTER > HARDRIVE; AND THE TRANSFERRING OF > MY DATA TO WHO KNOWS WHERE. Unknown. Cox is not doing a good job. Google it. error 678 cox. there's something on it that makes me think it's a DNS issue or other connectivity issue. If that does not make it clear, then call Cox support and speak to a technician. My bet is that you don't have your DNS server addresses set properly; but I can't tell if you are even close to that. OK. If you loaded Linux, it would be a heck of a lot easier. That's why I suggested you get in touch with the Tulsa Linux User's Group, and gave you the URL for it. OK; IT IS LOST, AND I AM ALSO LOST.... I NEED TO KNOW VERY VERY TRITE DETAILS, AND NOTHING ELSE.... Have you done any of those things? Things don't happen by themselves. You have these things in reverse order. Start with 5. If that doesn't resolve your PC issue, then move on to 2, then 3. Item 4 is not a problem because your lights and other appliances work. YES; THEY WORK; THOUGH THE LINE IS QUITE PROBABLY BEING MODULATED BY AUDIO, OR OTHER.... Item 1... you are linked through Cox, and I think your ISP probably does not play a role when it comes to using the web; only when you start getting the e-mail. Are you sure your ISP is not Cox? I HAVE NO IDEA REGARDING WHAT AN ISP IS; OR; IF IT IS OWNED AND/OR OPERATED BY COX. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060126/e7ac1bd2/attachment-0001.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Thu Jan 26 14:37:29 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Thu Jan 26 14:37:46 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. Message-ID: Some people are sensitive to electricity. Rare, but a known medical problem, at least in Sweden and a few other countries. Less accepted in the USA, but cases exist. A study shows that some people are affected by spikes and surges in the power lines. Some talk of how to deal with it. I read the study you sent John, I find myself somewhat agreeing with it. I kayak, I find this the most relaxing thing I can do, take my camera along as with a kayak I look like a log to wild life and I can get eyeball to eyeball with the critters. I bring along my natures NOAH, on the front of my boat I have a basket that holds my 10 lb. ankle bitter. This small dog is my survival pack, He is calm, laid back and only barks when he thinks I am threatened. The dog, Roger ignores the birds that zoom over our head missing us by about 3 feet, doesn't twitch when a fish jumps a foot from the boat. My survival depends on Rogers EARS. Yup, it is all in the ears, dogs seem to be more sensitive to barometric pressure, electrical changes around them. When I see his ears twitch, I head for shore, fast. Lightning can travel 50 miles and there will not be a cloud in the sky. On a sunny perfect day a boater or swimmer can be struck by lightning that seems to come out from nowhere Electricity is very strange, doesn't really keep to any known rule, just goes where it wants to. Key word here is known rule, we still don't know everything about electricity after generations of trying to harness the beast. There are times when at home on a quiet night, no rain or storm when Roger will twitch his ears., the way he does on the boat. Is the reaction due to house hold changes in the input of electricity, or dirty electricity??? regards Vesta The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060126/be7b3f34/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 26 14:47:48 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 26 14:48:13 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] HOW CAN.... In-Reply-To: <20060126202946.17472.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 26, 2006 12:29:46 PM Message-ID: <20060126214748.95088.qmail@mall-net.com> > > 3. HAVING S.B.C. CHECK ALL TELEPHONE > > BOXES FOR THE BROKEN HOME. > > You can trace the wires in your own home, look at the connections. > Not hard. If you are using Cox as your broadband supplier, then the > telephone boxes are not relevant. > > NONSENSE; THE TELEPHONE TAP IS EITHER LOCATED OUTSIDE, > IN NEIGHBORS BACKYARD(S) IN ONE OF THE TELEPHONE BOXES; > OR IS LOCATED AT SOME DISTANT OR LONG DISTANT LOCATION. > I HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS; I CANNOT GO OUT THERE MYSELF > TO DO THE CHECKING. > I ALMOST GOT IN TROUBLE IN THE PAST, FOR TAPPING INTO THE > CABLE BOX, TO GET FREE CABLE T.V. ..! As I explained before, telephone taps are done within the telephone switching system. Looking for a tap on your line is pure BS! First, no one other than some teenage kid is dumb enough to tap it near your house. Second, it's so much easier and safer for the pros to do it via the switching system itself. But, the key point is: YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE A WIRE TAP TARGET!!! The feds have real crooks thay need to find and catch, not someone like you. The way any intelligence gathering operation starts is thus: First, they find someone who looks interesting; meaning who meets their criteria. Usually, it's someone who is spending more money than he is earning by a considerable amount. Meaning he's living rather well with little income or spending like $50,000 or more more than he is making or getting from some trust fund. I take it that's not you. I know it's not me! A good friend of mine got picked up this way. And when the IRS audited him, verified his dwindling savings, etc.; they thanked him very much, Told him to apply for several refunds he hadn't applied for, and left him alone. He is living off his savings, which are considerable. He worked very hard in the family run business, then economic changes put that business on the sidelines. He's not "worked" for ten years; but is active in the trade, looking for opportunities to restart the business. Next, if the criteria are met, and the IRS is advised NOT to audit due to other flags, the FBI/DHS/NSI starts looking to see whom he communicates a lot with. Not content, just names and organizations. Does this person communicate to other known suspects? Or is he just an odd loner? My friend didn't match other criteria, so they sent the IRS to check openly; not the FBI with a covert probe. Telephone connections (not content), checks, credit card patterns, and travel patterns (non-local credit card use for gas, meals, lodging) are checked. Are there any relationships with other suspects in the areas he travels in? Does this person connect to some kind of network? Or is he just an odd longer? Does he have valid business or hobby reasons for going and doing what he is doing? Do any of the other potential contacts have the same hobbies? Anything wrong with the picture? As this point, the odd loners, people who are not connected to any criminal or security events are discarded as marginal-but-normal people in society. Only then, does the fun begin. More detailed investigations of connections and spending patterns. Some acute, some chronic reviews. And if tighter criteria are met, then they start looking for how to justify the expenditure of funds and get warrants to look deeper. Only a few hundred wire taps are approved a year; so your chance of being selected purely randomly, is... um.... like one in a couple hundred thousand. And since they have more promising leads to follow... I'd up that to one in a few million. Except, of course, it's not random. Since you are not living like a millionaire without a known income, are not traveling a lot, are not making threats to various public officials, etc... I'd put it to one in a few ten million. YOU ARE NOT BEING TAPPED!!! Not unless some screwball neighbor's kid is curious. But he has homework to do, TV shows that are far more entertaining, etc. so it's just terribly unlikely that you have anyone really interested you. > > 4. HAVING A.E.P. P.S.O. ENGINEERS > > INSPECT THE PAD MOUNTED POWER > > DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMER, FOR ANY > > POSSIBLE PROBLEM(S). > > Look at the transformer at night. > > I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN A RED LIGHT, OR ANY RED LIGHTS, ON > ANY PAD MOUNTED RESIDENTIAL DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS..! > I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A REALITY, UNLESS I HAVE JUST > NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE. The red lights on pole transformers indicate the transformer that has too much current and is too hot. They can be seen only when they are on, when the transformer is overloaded. That is, the ones that are pole mounted. I don't know if you have pole mounted transformers or not. > I'VE SEEN THE SINGLE FLORESCENT, AND MY PLAZA GLOBE > FLICKER, AT SPECIFIC RATES OF TIME, AS THOUGH THE MAINS > TO THE BROKEN HOME ARE BEING MODULATED BY AN AUDIO > SOURCE..! > THAT IS EVIDENCE ENOUGH, FOR ME TO BE SUSPICIOUS OF > CARRIER CURRENT GOINGS ON..! This is not an unusual phenomenon. RF from nearby radio stations can affect things like this. And if YOU are transmitting to the power lines, you will be causing it. But fact is, many florescent lights become marginal as they and the ballast circuits age, and will start oscillating on their own. Many find this highly irritating. This is why we don't like those things. As for other things, any heavy load, harmonics with motors, elevators in nearby buildings, water pumps, microwave ovens, etc. can create burst loading conditions which can cause flicker. > > 5. INVESTIGATION INTO ERROR 678; A > > REMOTE COMPUTER "DIALING COX CABLE; > > AN UNNECESARY SPYWARE PROGRAM, > > INSTALLED SOMEWHERE ON THE COMPUTER > > HARDRIVE; AND THE TRANSFERRING OF > > MY DATA TO WHO KNOWS WHERE. > > Unknown. Cox is not doing a good job. Google it. error 678 cox. > there's something on it that makes me think it's a DNS issue or other > connectivity issue. > > If that does not make it clear, then call Cox support and speak to > a technician. My bet is that you don't have your DNS server addresses > set properly; but I can't tell if you are even close to that. > > OK. > > If you loaded Linux, it would be a heck of a lot easier. That's > why I suggested you get in touch with the Tulsa Linux User's Group, and > gave you the URL for it. > > OK; IT IS LOST, AND I AM ALSO LOST.... > I NEED TO KNOW VERY VERY TRITE DETAILS, AND NOTHING > ELSE.... Trite means not important. You need to look at important details, not trite details. > Item 4 is not a problem because your lights and other appliances > work. > > YES; THEY WORK; THOUGH THE LINE IS QUITE PROBABLY BEING > MODULATED BY AUDIO, OR OTHER.... > > Item 1... you are linked through Cox, and I think your ISP > probably does not play a role when it comes to using the web; only when > you start getting the e-mail. Are you sure your ISP is not Cox? > > I HAVE NO IDEA REGARDING WHAT AN ISP IS; OR; IF IT IS OWNED > AND/OR OPERATED BY COX. Then Cox is your ISP. Internet Service Provider. they supply your e-mail service and other internet related services. The error you cited earlier is a connectivity problem. Google it. Call them if you are paying for the connection, Get it fixed. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jan 26 15:18:00 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jan 26 15:18:07 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060126200323.9529.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 26, 2006 12:03:23 PM Message-ID: <20060126221800.15178.qmail@mall-net.com> > Some people are sensitive to electricity. Rare, but a known > medical problem, at least in Sweden and a few other countries. Less > accepted in the USA, but cases exist. > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/research/Havas_Stetzer_WHO04.pdf > > AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE; IT IS VERY VERY ACCURATELY TELLING > THE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH..! So it might be that you are sensitive to the noise on the line, mistaking that for deliberate attempts to do things to you. It is far, far more likely than someone knowing it will affect you and doing that on purpose. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Thu Jan 26 21:39:23 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Thu Jan 26 21:39:35 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060126221800.15178.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060127043923.73687.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > Some people are sensitive to electricity. Rare, but a known > medical problem, at least in Sweden and a few other countries. Less > accepted in the USA, but cases exist. > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/research/Havas_Stetzer_WHO04.pdf > > AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE; IT IS VERY VERY ACCURATELY TELLING > THE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH..! So it might be that you are sensitive to the noise on the line, YES; FOR 100% CERTAIN; I'M SUPER SENSITIVE TO ALL OF THE NOISE ON ALL OF THE POWERLINES; ALL POWERLINES; ALL FLORESCENT LIGHTING, AND THE REVOLVING E.M. FIELDS OF CEILING FANS TOO..! mistaking that for deliberate attempts to do things to you. NO; IT HAS TO DO WITH B.P.L. AND G.P.S. TRACKING TECHNOLOGY; AND THE F.C.C. AND THE N.S.A. DOING SPYING OPERATIONS ON PEOPLE OF CONTROVERSY, LIKE ME..! I NOW KNOW, BECAUSE I FOUND OUT THAT A TULSA CYBERCRIMES POLICE OFFICER HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING MY ACTIONS; AND SINCE I STARTED CONFRONTING SOME OF THE LOCAL RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA; IT HAS BROUGHT THE B.P.L. ISSUE, AND THE CYBERCRIMES OFFICER INTO THE LIGHT. It is far, far more likely than someone knowing it will affect you, and doing that on purpose. YEAH, THOUGH THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA IS AIRING SONGS, RELATIVE TO THE MUSIC THAT I AM LISTENING TO; RELATIVE TO THE THE THINGS THAT I AM DOING; AND RELATIVE TO THINGS THAT I AM THINKING. -MAKES ME WONDER IF THE U.S. MILITARY (AIRFORCE IN PARTICULAR), MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY, TO USE ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TECHNOLOGY, TO SOMEHOW SOMEWAY MONITOR BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY IN FOLKS. NOW THAT IS PARANOIA...! THOUGH KINDOF JOKING; BUT PARTIALLY SERIOUS ABOUT IT..! THERE'S THAT SAYING IN THE BIBLE: GUARD YOUR MINDS AND YOUR HEARTS. I AM FINDING OUT HOW TRUE THAT THAT SAYING IS. BY MY PLAYING THE LIBERAL CHRISTIAN DEVIL'S ADVOCATE IN COMBINATION WITH MY PAST HELL RAISING; IT HAS PUT ME IN THE GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA SPOTLIGHT, SINCE AROUND 2001; AND SO NOW I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE; THOUGH NOT 'TOTAL' 100% EVIDENCE, THAT BROADBAND OVER POWERLINES TECHNOLOGY / TECHNOLOGIES, WORKING IN COOPERATIVE WITH THE GLOBAL POSTIONING SYSTEM, IS A MORE THAN LIKELY REALITY, - THAT THE TULSA BROADCAST RADIO MEDIA COMMUNITY HAS INTRUDED INTO NOT ONLY MY LIFE; BUT IN VERY VERY MANY OTHER FOLKS LIVES AS WELL; FOR DOING SIMILAR THINGS AS I'VE DONE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get the tutorial. -Mike From thrustmeister at netzero.net Fri Jan 27 09:42:08 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Fri Jan 27 09:43:54 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. Message-ID: <20060127.084243.11666.158754@webmail33.lax.untd.com> Clyde: John said: So it might be that you are sensitive to the noise on the line, You said: YES; FOR 100% CERTAIN; I'M SUPER SENSITIVE TO ALL OF THE NOISE ON ALL OF THE POWERLINES; ALL POWERLINES; ALL FLORESCENT LIGHTING, AND THE REVOLVING E.M. FIELDS OF CEILING FANS TOO..! --Hey! It never occured to me that a ceiling fan motor produces a rotating magnetic field. If it does, this easily solves one of my challenges. YEAH, THOUGH THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA IS AIRING SONGS, RELATIVE TO THE MUSIC THAT I AM LISTENING TO; RELATIVE TO THE THE THINGS THAT I AM DOING; AND RELATIVE TO THINGS THAT I AM THINKING. --This is actually a very common effect. It's based on Carl Jung's theory of Synchronisity, or the tendency of similar events to occur at similar points in time. -MAKES ME WONDER IF THE U.S. MILITARY (AIRFORCE IN PARTICULAR), MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY, TO USE ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TECHNOLOGY, TO SOMEHOW SOMEWAY MONITOR BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY IN FOLKS. --I'm sure someone has this. It's a type of quadrature signal (I've picked it up on my scope), and it may be based on information which might have been obtained at Cydonia. THERE'S THAT SAYING IN THE BIBLE: GUARD YOUR MINDS AND YOUR HEARTS. --Best advice around. I AM FINDING OUT HOW TRUE THAT THAT SAYING IS. Jerry From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 27 10:34:12 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 27 10:34:39 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060127.084243.11666.158754@webmail33.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <20060127173413.86595.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> "thrustmeister@netzero.net" < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote: Clyde: John said: So it might be that you are sensitive to the noise on the line, You said: YES; FOR 100% CERTAIN; I'M SUPER SENSITIVE TO ALL OF THE NOISE ON ALL OF THE POWERLINES; ALL POWERLINES; ALL FLORESCENT LIGHTING, AND THE REVOLVING E.M. FIELDS OF CEILING FANS TOO..! --Hey! It never occured to me that a ceiling fan motor produces a rotating magnetic field. If it does, this easily solves one of my challenges. YEP! THE ELECTRIC MOTOR AND THE ELECTRIC GENERATOR ARE BOTH, ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELDS. ALSO; THE HEART CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS WHERE MAGNETRICITY (GRAVITY) AND ELECTRICITY (HIGH VOLTAGE) INTERSECT..! YEAH, THOUGH THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA ARE AIRING SONGS, RELATIVE TO THE MUSIC THAT I AM LISTENING TO; RELATIVE TO THE THE THINGS THAT I AM DOING; AND RELATIVE TO THINGS THAT I AM THINKING. --This is actually a very common effect. It's based on Carl Jung's theory of Synchronicity, or the tendency of similar events to occur at similar points in time. WELL NOT EXACTLY; B.P.L. AND G.P.S. TECHNOLOGIES SEEM TO BE SUPER SOPHISTICATED, WITH THE POWER TRANSMISSION NETWORK GRID; THE TELEPHONE NETWORK GRID; THE CABLE NETWORK GRID; THE CELLULAR TELEPHONE NETWORK GRID; AND 'NOW' THE MILITARY SPY SATELLITE G.P.S. INFRASTRUCTURE; ETC.... -MAKES ME WONDER IF THE U.S. MILITARY (AIRFORCE IN PARTICULAR), MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY, TO USE ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TECHNOLOGY, TO SOMEHOW SOMEWAY MONITOR BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY IN FOLKS. --I'm sure someone has this. It's a type of quadrature signal QUADRATURE AND MORE..! (I've picked it up on my scope), and it may be based on information which might have been obtained at Cydonia. THERE'S THAT SAYING IN THE BIBLE: GUARD YOUR MINDS AND YOUR HEARTS. --Best advice around. I AM FINDING OUT HOW TRUE THAT THAT SAYING IS. Jerry --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060127/84de5a52/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Fri Jan 27 16:20:47 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Fri Jan 27 16:21:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] TULSA OKLAHOMA: HELL ON EARTH..! Message-ID: <20060127232048.15246.qmail@web50611.mail.yahoo.com> TULSA OKLAHOMA IS HELL ON EARTH..! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060127/c6bc7370/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 29 14:04:23 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 29 14:04:30 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Various topics.... Message-ID: <20060129210423.40241.qmail@web50603.mail.yahoo.com> 1. Sacred star / Sacred star geometry / Sacred crystallography / Sacred magnetricity, etc.... 2. Holy of holy's / Holy of hollies / Wholly of whollies / Wholly of wholly's. 3. Ball lightning / Ball lightning computer analysis. 4. Lichtenberg pattern[s]. 5. Chaotic tetrites / chaotic triheeds / chaotic tetraheeds / chaotic trihexaheeds / chaotic trihectaheeds / chaotic tritetraheeds / chaotic tetratetraheeds / chaotic tetrahectaheeds / tetrahectals; etc.... 6. Triheed[s], hex[a]heed[s] oct[a]heed[s], trihex[a]heed[s], octa-tri-hex[a]heed[s], etc.... 7. Triheedrite[s], tetrahedrite[s], hexaheedrite[s], hectaheedrite[s] / Crystallography. 8. Numeric scales / Musical scales. 9. Lichtenberg [stochaic] fractals / chaos / crystals / computer analysis. 10. Fulgerite crystals / analysis. 11. Winter lightning / analysis. 12. Fulger geometry / analysis. 13. 8, 4, and 2 geometry / geometries. 14. Petrified lightning / analysis. 15. Fulgerite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. 16. Tetrite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. 17. Sprite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. 18. Condensed matter; chaos / geometry / topology/ lattices / meshes. 19. Ultimate fractal chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes of nature. 20. Klein bottle[s] / computer analysis. 21. Dial, ditrite, hexal, hex[t]ite, trial, tri[t]ite, tetral, tetrite, quadral, quadrite, octal, octite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes / etc.... 22. Cloud crystal[s] / chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. 23. Rainbow connection. 24. Platinum ice / platinum fusion / platinum crystallography / platinum mirroring. 25. Eight pointed star chaotic / eight pointed star geometric / eight pointed star topologic / eight pointed star 'lattice' / eight pointed star 'mesh'. 26. Eight point star and its subtractives, additives, divisives and multiples. 27. White light / platinum light / white lightning. 28. Elementary star [1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, Etc....] geometr[y]/ies. 29. Distar / Tristar / Hect[a]star / Oct[a]star; etc.... I need help from others out there, with the in betweens; to help to fill in gaps that I haven't filled..! Clyde --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060129/bde8fd6b/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 29 17:42:38 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 29 17:43:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060127173413.86595.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060130004238.84527.qmail@web50614.mail.yahoo.com> MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND: clyde lofton < clydelofton@yahoo.com > wrote: " thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote: Clyde: John said: So it might be that you are sensitive to the noise on the line, You said: > > YES; FOR 100% CERTAIN; I'M SUPER SENSITIVE TO ALL OF THE > NOISE ON ALL OF THE POWERLINES; ALL POWERLINES; ALL > FLORESCENT LIGHTING, AND THE REVOLVING E.M. FIELDS OF > CEILING FANS TOO..! --Hey! It never occured to me that a ceiling fan motor produces a rotating magnetic field. If it does, this easily solves one of my challenges. > > YEP! > THE ELECTRIC MOTOR AND THE ELECTRIC GENERATOR ARE BOTH, > ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELDS. THE HEART CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IS WHERE MAGNETRICITY (GRAVITY) AND ELECTRICITY (LOW AND HIGH VOLTAGE) INTERSECT..! > > YEAH, THOUGH THE RADIO MEDIA, HERE IN TULSA ARE AIRING > SONGS, RELATIVE TO THE MUSIC THAT I AM LISTENING TO; RELATIVE > TO THE THE THINGS THAT I AM DOING; AND RELATIVE TO THINGS > THAT I AM THINKING. --This is actually a very common effect. It's based on Carl Jung's theory of Synchronicity, or the tendency of similar events to occur at similar points in time. > > WELL NOT EXACTLY; B.P.L. AND G.P.S. TECHNOLOGIES SEEM TO BE > SUPER SOPHISTICATED, WITH THE POWER TRANSMISSION NETWORK > GRID; THE TELEPHONE NETWORK GRID; THE CABLE NETWORK GRID; > THE CELLULAR TELEPHONE NETWORK GRID; AND 'NOW' THE MILITARY > SPY SATELLITE G.P.S. INFRASTRUCTURE/ INTRAFUCKTURE ETC.... THEY HAVE PROBABLY GOT MY VEHICLE WITH A CLANDESTINE G.P.S. TRANSMITTER ATTACHED TO IT SOMEWHERE; BUT IF SO; I'M NOT WEALTHY ENOUGH TO TEST OR HAVE TESTS DONE TO FIND OUT IF I HAVE A G.P.S. TRACKING BUG. > > -MAKES ME WONDER IF THE U.S. MILITARY (AIRFORCE IN PARTICULAR), > MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY, TO USE > ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAM TECHNOLOGY, TO SOMEHOW > SOMEWAY MONITOR BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY IN FOLKS. I'M WONDERING IF ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY MAY POTENTIALLY EXIST..? I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060129/7579163c/attachment.html From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sun Jan 29 22:24:54 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Sun Jan 29 22:27:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. Message-ID: <20060129.212551.19753.179408@webmail29.lax.untd.com> I'M WONDERING IF ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY MAY POTENTIALLY EXIST..? I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. CLYDE I've seen something referred to as psychotropic TV. The picture is remarkable in clarity, but has negative pi curvature. (It uncurls around a point which is external to the viewer.) Jerry From clydelofton at yahoo.com Sun Jan 29 22:35:01 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Sun Jan 29 22:35:05 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060129.212551.19753.179408@webmail29.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <20060130053501.98633.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> " thrustmeister@netzero.net " < thrustmeister@netzero.net > wrote: I'M WONDERING IF ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY MAY POTENTIALLY EXIST..? I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. CLYDE I've seen something referred to as psychotropic TV. The picture is remarkable in clarity, but has negative pi curvature. (It uncurls around a point which is external to the viewer.) STRANGE MAN; VERY STRANGE..! CLYDE --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060129/59a5270d/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 29 22:50:03 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 29 22:50:16 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060129.212551.19753.179408@webmail29.lax.untd.com> from "thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Jan 30, 2006 05:24:54 AM Message-ID: <20060130055004.77524.qmail@mall-net.com> > I'M WONDERING IF ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY > MAY POTENTIALLY EXIST..? > I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. > I've seen something referred to as psychotropic TV. The picture is rema= > rkable in clarity, but has negative pi curvature. (It uncurls around a = > point which is external to the viewer.) There are some means by which sound can be modulated into the brain via RF. This is known, has been known for 30 - 40 years. The ears are linear decoding instruments. Sound decoding is simple resonance. Visual is two dimensional, not linear. It can have a third dimension in the disagreement of the images of the two eyes. But the nature of the nerves is more structural/random. Hetrodyning images into the brain would be exceedingly difficult. At best! The nearest would be creating a stimulus to the visual centers; but they are not consistently mapped between people. Nerves grow as the will, connecting and THEN deriving functional integration from contextual signals. Thus one would have to develop a map of the context of each nerve. Not only is that difficult without sawing skills open; it differs from person to person. That said, some work has been done mapping visual sensors to the eye and mapping visual sensors to areas of skin. With training, one can learn to "see" the image from an x/y matrix on one's back. That's Training. Do you have solid references to your "psychotropic TV" research? Most of what I saw in google is either on the use of drugs or written as if babbled by those who use them. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. 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This is known, has been known for 30 - 40 years. The ears are linear decoding instruments. Sound decoding is simple resonance. Visual is two dimensional, not linear. It can have a third dimension in the disagreement of the images of the two eyes. But the nature of the nerves is more structural/random. Hetrodyning images into the brain would be exceedingly difficult. At best! The nearest would be creating a stimulus to the visual centers; but they are not consistently mapped between people. Nerves grow as the will, connecting and THEN deriving functional integration from contextual signals. Thus one would have to develop a map of the context of each nerve. THREE DIMENSIONAL BRAIN SCAN MAPPING TECHNOLOGY; MAX HEADROOM STYLE; AND THE CREATION OF A CRUDE HUMAN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - THOUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE FAR FETCHED. Not only is that difficult without sawing skills open; it differs from person to person. That said, some work has been done mapping visual sensors to the eye and mapping visual sensors to areas of skin. With training, one can learn to "see" the image from an x/y matrix on one's back. That's Training. YES. Do you have solid references to your "psychotropic TV" research? Most of what I saw in google is either on the use of drugs or written as if babbled by those who use them. I HOPE THAT MY POSTING AFTER YOU POSTED THIS; HELPS OUT TREMENDOUSLY; MORE OF MY ABSOLUTELY HARDER THAN HELL - STRESSING MYSELF TO THE NEAR-TOTAL LIMITS AGAIN - WORK..! THE INFORMATION IN ALL OF THOSE WEBLINKS IS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT I HOPE IS OF VALUE TO EVERYONE..! AS FOR MYSELF; I JUST WANT TO HAVE SERENITY AFTER IT ALL NOW. IT'D TAKE ME A MILLION YEARS AND MORE, JUST TO READ THROUGH IT ALL - ALL OF THE BRAINSTORMING PATHWAYS - TANGENTS THAT I COULD GO DOWN, THINKING ON ALL OF THOSE TOPICS, AND THE NEARLY LIMITELESS IDEAS AFFILIATED WITH THEM, THAT THEY WOULD BRING UP FOR ME. CLYDE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060129/a1127a24/attachment.html From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sun Jan 29 23:14:53 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Sun Jan 29 23:16:55 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Various topics.... Message-ID: <20060129.221552.19753.179573@webmail29.lax.untd.com> 1. Sacred magnetricity, --I think you've got something! 2. Holy of holy's / Holy of hollies / Wholly of whollies / Wholly of wholly's. --Which of these are Divine? 3. Ball lightning / Ball lightning computer analysis. --I can make ball lightning shoot out of a pipe like a Roman Candle, but I'm not going to tell anyone how. 4. Lichtenberg pattern[s]. --Some patterns can be telepathic picture implants without you knowing it. Just put it in their psyonic 3 dial box. 5. Chaotic tetrites / chaotic triheeds / chaotic tetraheeds / chaotic trihexaheeds / chaotic trihectaheeds / chaotic tritetraheeds / chaotic tetratetraheeds / chaotic tetrahectaheeds / tetrahectals; etc.... --Are you halucinating? 6. Triheed[s], hex[a]heed[s] oct[a]heed[s], trihex[a]heed[s], octa-tri-hex[a]heed[s], etc.... --You forgot the most important one - the quadraheed. 7. Triheedrite[s], tetrahedrite[s], hexaheedrite[s], hectaheedrite[s] / Crystallography. --That's better. 8. Numeric scales / Musical scales. --Yes, I can see the numeric scale of a fret pattern, even without the frets. 9. Lichtenberg [stochaic] fractals / chaos / crystals / computer analysis. --Remember, with the right algorithm, you'll be bigger than Bill Gates. 10. Fulgerite crystals / analysis. --Must be good for something. 11. Winter lightning / analysis. --With or without clouds? 12. Fulger geometry / analysis. --With or without a killer app? 13. 8, 4, and 2 geometry / geometries. --8 is a-grav, 4 is ether and 2 is ZPE. 14. Petrified lightning / analysis. --The sand tube means the lightning must be hollow. So what's the polarity? 15. Fulgerite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Meshes sound good. 16. Tetrite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Ditto. 17. Sprite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Whoops! You need a fish symbol (christos) with the long L pointing forwards, hanging down from its gills. 18. Condensed matter; chaos / geometry / topology/ lattices / meshes. --It's the fourth dimension, or depth, without chaos. The stationary points look smaller as you look in from the surface. The mesh is coherent. 19. Ultimate fractal chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes of nature. --Quantum hologram? 20. Klein bottle[s] / computer analysis. --It either has one surface or it doesn't. 21. Dial, ditrite, hexal, hex[t]ite, trial, tri[t]ite, tetral, tetrite, quadral, quadrite, octal, --Shouldn't that be quadric? octite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes / etc.... 22. Cloud crystal[s] / chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --With or without the HARP's activity? Or Sandia's teraflop spark cam picture generator? (Can you say "weather satelite"?) 23. Rainbow connection. --It's easier to coax the hydrogen away from the oxygen than to jerk it. Easier to make a pot of gold, too. Also makes a really short, high powered (gW) accelerator. 24. Platinum ice / platinum fusion / platinum crystallography / platinum mirroring. --Is this better than a fractalized amalgamation? 25. Eight pointed star chaotic / eight pointed star geometric / eight pointed star topologic / eight pointed star 'lattice' / eight pointed star 'mesh'. --Do the lines curve inwards, outwards, or are they mearly straight? 26. Eight point star and its subtractives, additives, divisives and multiples. --Harmonics and sub harmonics. How about the eight point swaztica, with a caduceus ball next to each elbow? 27. White light / platinum light / white lightning. --It only looks like light. 28. Elementary star [1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, Etc....] geometr[y]/ies. --The 1D star is Bodhi, the natural opening into the surface of the universe, with 23 equations from antiquity. 29. Distar / Tristar / Hect[a]star / Oct[a]star; etc.... --I thought you said that. I need help from others out there, with the in betweens; to help to fill in gaps that I haven't filled..! --How about a negative pi trion? Clyde And Jerry From thrustmeister at netzero.net Sun Jan 29 23:40:17 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Sun Jan 29 23:42:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. Message-ID: <20060129.224109.19753.179638@webmail29.lax.untd.com> -- javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > I'M WONDERING IF ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY > MAY POTENTIALLY EXIST..? > I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. > I've seen something referred to as psychotropic TV. The picture is rema= > rkable in clarity, but has negative pi curvature. (It uncurls around a = > point which is external to the viewer.) There are some means by which sound can be modulated into the brain via RF. This is known, has been known for 30 - 40 years. The ears are linear decoding instruments. Sound decoding is simple resonance. Visual is two dimensional, not linear. It can have a third dimension in the disagreement of the images of the two eyes. But the nature of the nerves is more structural/random. Hetrodyning images into the brain would be exceedingly difficult. At best! The nearest would be creating a stimulus to the visual centers; but they are not consistently mapped between people. Nerves grow as the will, connecting and THEN deriving functional integration from contextual signals. Thus one would have to develop a map of the context of each nerve. Not only is that difficult without sawing skills open; it differs from person to person. That said, some work has been done mapping visual sensors to the eye and mapping visual sensors to areas of skin. With training, one can learn to "see" the image from an x/y matrix on one's back. That's Training. --There are also visual sensors on the outer surface of the brain. These sensors are hard wired to some part of the brain stem. Images seen here are seen by the self, rather than by the visual cortex. --The forehead, acting as a capacitor, can also pick up, and transmit, images. I learned this back in the mid 70's, from 10th Dan Grand Master Robert Trias - the first caucasion to be allowed to study karate, and the highest ranked white man in the world, with red belts from three countries. He also taught me Satori, and seeing behind myself. And how to connect my forehead with my toes. Do you have solid references to your "psychotropic TV" research? Most of what I saw in google is either on the use of drugs or written as if babbled by those who use them. --I have no such research. It's only a one-time experience which can't be explained, but I'm almost certain who transmitted it. -JV -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jan 29 23:50:06 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jan 29 23:50:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. In-Reply-To: <20060129.224109.19753.179638@webmail29.lax.untd.com> from "thrustmeister@netzero.net" at Jan 30, 2006 06:40:17 AM Message-ID: <20060130065006.23991.qmail@mall-net.com> > > --There are also visual sensors on the outer surface of the brain. Thes= > e sensors are hard wired to some part of the brain stem. Images seen he= > re are seen by the self, rather than by the visual cortex. Images or tactile mapping. Tactile mapping, I know about. Somewhat distorted; but effective. If one can trigger that way, one can feel what is not (actually) felt. > --The forehead, acting as a capacitor, can also pick up, and transmit, i= > mages. I learned this back in the mid 70's, from 10th Dan Grand Master = > Robert Trias - the first caucasion to be allowed to study karate, and th= > e highest ranked white man in the world, with red belts from three count= > ries. He also taught me Satori, and seeing behind myself. And how to c= > onnect my forehead with my toes. There is one way of seeing behind oneself which involves a change in perspective. Is it that one? > --I have no such research. It's only a one-time experience which can't = > be explained, but I'm almost certain who transmitted it. -JV I have heard of such things. This is not visual field transmission; but triggering the recognition mappings; which differ in some ways from person to person. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From thrustmeister at netzero.net Mon Jan 30 00:34:31 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Mon Jan 30 00:36:55 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] (MODIFIED FROM PREVIOUS SEND:) Dirty Electricity. Message-ID: <20060129.233521.12619.180475@webmail32.lax.untd.com> -- javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > There is one way of seeing behind oneself which involves a change in perspective. Is it that one? No. It's called a sence of perception. The mind, when still, becomes reflective, just as the surface of a pool of calm water. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 08:33:30 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 08:33:44 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130055004.77524.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060130153330.84772.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > There are some means by which sound can be modulated > into the brain via RF. AUDIO FREQUENCY IS ALSO RADIO FREQUENCY..! > This is known, has been known for 30 - 40 years. The ears > are linear decoding instruments. THE OPTICAL (VIDIENT) AND AURAL (AUDIENT) NERVES HAVE A LINKAGE BETWEEN THEM; THOUGH I AM IN NO MEANS ANY EXPERT; I JUST KNOW THAT THEY ARE LINKED. > Sound decoding is simple resonance. OK; A RELATION BETWEEN ELECTRICAL VIDEO RADIO AND AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCIES, AND ACOUSTIC SCIENCE; ELECTROMAGNETIC SCIENCE EQUALLY AS WELL..! > Visual is two dimensional, not linear. X AND Y AXES; BUT THERE IS THE DEPTH OF COLORATION ; MOST IMPORTANTLY: THE BLACK AND THE WHITE - THE DARK AND THE (WHITE) LIGHT; PURE BLACK - RELATIVE TO CHROME / CHROMATION; ETC.... SO THERE IS THE THRID Z DIMENSION AS WELL, TO SIGHT; THE DEPTH. > It can have a third dimension THE SO-CALLED THIRD EYE; THE MINDS EYE; THE IMAGINATION; METAPHYSICAL CONTEMPLATION, AND COMPREHENSION; IN MY CASE WHICH I HAVE CYNICALLY / SARCASTICALLY CALLED MY TURD EYE, BECAUSE OF THE TERM: BLOCKAGE..! > in the disagreement of the images of the two eyes. But the > nature of the nerves is more structural/random. SYMMETRIC AND CHAOTIC SIMULTANEOUSLY. > Hetrodyning images into the brain would be exceedingly > difficult. At best! NOT IF THE IMAGES WERE TOPOLOGICALLY GEOMETRICALLY CARTOGRAPHICALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY INPUT / SECTORIZED..! > The nearest would be creating a stimulus to the visual > centers; but they are not consistently mapped between people. > Nerves grow as the will, connecting and THEN deriving > functional integration from contextual signals. Thus one would > have to develop a map of the context of each nerve. SYMMETRIC CHAOS; RELATIVE TO DIFFUSION LIMITED AGGREGATION AND AGGREGATION TIME COLORATION. http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/courses/Fraktale/PDF/fractals7.pdf#search='8%20POINT%20DENDRITE%20FRACTALS.' http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/fractals/chaos/DLA.GIF http://www.math.umn.edu/~jhshen/gogo/nonflatG.pdf#search='color%20chromacity%20sphere.' > THREE DIMENSIONAL BRAIN SCAN MAPPING TECHNOLOGY; MAX > HEADROOM STYLE; AND THE CREATION OF A CRUDE HUMAN > ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - THOUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE FAR FETCHED. BOOK: MAPS OF THE IMAGINATION, BY: TURCHI PETER: http://images.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1027712 BRAIN ACTIVATION DURING HUMAN NAVIGATION: http://www.mrivideo.com/temp/PDFS/naturens.pdf#search=spatial%20navigation.' --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060130/8bf562cd/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 08:41:06 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 08:41:12 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130055004.77524.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060130154106.31143.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> JOHN; THE SERVER FOR THIS BROKEN HOME - COMPUTER WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO GO BACK TO VIEW THE WEBLINK BELOW, FOR MAPPING THE HUMAN BRAIN. DOES THAT TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE..? EVIDENCE ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG AT THIS ENDLESS HELLHOLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, WHERE I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH, AND WHERE I AM FORCED TO HAVE TO LIVE..? THE TULSA RADIO BROADCAST MEDIA HAS BEEN FUCKING WITH ME FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW BEHIND THE SCENES, SINCE I FIRST OPERATED MY L.P.F.M. MICRO RADIO STATION, BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. CLYDE BOOK: MAPS OF THE IMAGINATION, BY: TURCHI PETER: http://images.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1027712 --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060130/6cb778da/attachment.html From sharp at noao.edu Mon Jan 30 09:11:28 2006 From: sharp at noao.edu (Nigel Sharp) Date: Mon Jan 30 09:11:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ball lightning In-Reply-To: <20060129.221552.19753.179573@webmail29.lax.untd.com> References: <20060129.221552.19753.179573@webmail29.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: > 3. Ball lightning / Ball lightning computer analysis. > --I can make ball lightning shoot out of a pipe like a >Roman Candle, but I'm not going to tell anyone how. I would be very very interested in any documented and demonstrated method of creating and manipulating ball lightning ... very very ... assuming this really is ball lightning and not just a fireball (cynic that I am). From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 12:41:19 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 12:41:28 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130154106.31143.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060130194119.27900.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> clyde lofton wrote: JOHN; BOOK: MAPS OF THE IMAGINATION, BY: TURCHI PETER: http://images.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1027712 THE BLOCKING OF THE ABOVE WEBLINK MUST BE ON SOME SERVER AFFILIATED WITH THAT WEBSITE, BECAUSE I TRIED ACCESSING IT HERE AT THE LIBRARY, AND ATTEMPT AT ACCESSING HERE, STILL WOULD NOT WORK. HERE ARE TWO ALTERNATIVE WEBLINKS, REGARDING THE BOOK: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/159534005X/701-2399365-1238753 http://images.com/images/P/159534005X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg CLYDE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060130/90e9ff8c/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 12:43:46 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 12:43:52 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130154106.31143.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060130194346.13273.qmail@web50615.mail.yahoo.com> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/159534005X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg CLYDE --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CHIROPRACTIC INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY: http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf http://www.lsiinternational.com/catalog/PDF/Q400%20Manual.pdf#search='LSI%20Quantum%20International%20%20Intersegmental%20traction%20tables --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060130/74b40203/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 30 14:31:24 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 30 14:31:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130194119.27900.qmail@web50610.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 30, 2006 11:41:19 AM Message-ID: <20060130213124.19390.qmail@mall-net.com> > http://images.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1027712 > > THE BLOCKING OF THE ABOVE WEBLINK MUST BE ON SOME > SERVER AFFILIATED WITH THAT WEBSITE, BECAUSE I TRIED Of course it's blocked! What do you expect? You are tryiing to steal an image from an image server without the page that the image is supposed to be associated with. The smarter webmasters will rig things so that others can't steal the image to put on their own pages. I've had practically kicked some people about the need to do this! One of my clients has pictures of some island that he couldn't understand why he got so many hits on, and zereo sales from -- the images were being used by all kinds of other people for all kinds of other purposes! Ya gotta lock it down! Any image is likely to be stolen. So make it harder for them to steal it without the associated advertising that pays for the image. > http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/159534005X/701-2399365-1238753 The book and the image. that is how you should tell us about a book, not just some image with no linke to how to get more information about the book. -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- ----- Advice, Analysis, Strategies, Development ----- Serving the World for three generations, since 1933 ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 30 14:33:24 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 30 14:33:31 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130154106.31143.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 30, 2006 07:41:06 AM Message-ID: <20060130213324.20599.qmail@mall-net.com> > THE SERVER FOR THIS BROKEN HOME - COMPUTER WILL NOT > ALLOW ME TO GO BACK TO VIEW THE WEBLINK BELOW, > FOR MAPPING THE HUMAN BRAIN. > DOES THAT TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE..? > EVIDENCE ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG > AT THIS ENDLESS HELLHOLE OF TULSA OKLAHOMA, WHERE There's nothing wrong, Clyde. It's all in trying to take the image without the page. It's normal. Nothing on your end is broken! > http://images.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1027712 -javilk- mall-net.com ------------------- IMAGINEERING -------------------- --------------- Every click, a vote. ---------------- ----- Do people vote for, or against your pages? ---- -- What people want: http://www.SitePsych.com/free -- ----------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Copyright retained. All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 30 14:42:28 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 30 14:42:33 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ELECTROENCEPHALOPHONE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130153330.84772.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 30, 2006 07:33:30 AM Message-ID: <20060130214228.27374.qmail@mall-net.com> > > There are some means by which sound can be modulated > > into the brain via RF. > > AUDIO FREQUENCY IS ALSO RADIO FREQUENCY..! No, it is not. Radio is not audio. Radio carries audio. The words are used very differently. > > This is known, has been known for 30 - 40 years. The ears > > are linear decoding instruments. > > THE OPTICAL (VIDIENT) AND AURAL (AUDIENT) NERVES > HAVE A LINKAGE BETWEEN THEM; THOUGH I AM IN NO > MEANS ANY EXPERT; I JUST KNOW THAT THEY ARE > LINKED. Not directly! It's very complex. > > Sound decoding is simple resonance. > > OK; A RELATION BETWEEN ELECTRICAL VIDEO RADIO AND > AUDIO RADIO FREQUENCIES, AND ACOUSTIC SCIENCE; > ELECTROMAGNETIC SCIENCE EQUALLY AS WELL..! No. > > Visual is two dimensional, not linear. > > X AND Y AXES; BUT THERE IS THE DEPTH OF COLORATION > ; MOST IMPORTANTLY: THE BLACK AND THE WHITE - THE > DARK AND THE (WHITE) LIGHT; PURE BLACK - RELATIVE TO > CHROME / CHROMATION; ETC.... > SO THERE IS THE THRID Z DIMENSION AS WELL, TO SIGHT; > THE DEPTH. That is something else. I'm just talking about the impossibility of projecting an x y surface as such into the brain. > > It can have a third dimension > > THE SO-CALLED THIRD EYE; THE MINDS EYE; THE > IMAGINATION; METAPHYSICAL CONTEMPLATION, AND You're falling off into artilcles written by mystics who don't know anything about science. This is a science site, not a mad mystics site. The only time we should talk about mysticism is when we can either make money, or figure out the science behind the mysticism so the stuff isn't the providence of mystics anymore. > > Hetrodyning images into the brain would be exceedingly > > difficult. At best! > > NOT IF THE IMAGES WERE TOPOLOGICALLY GEOMETRICALLY > CARTOGRAPHICALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY INPUT / SECTORIZED..! Nonsense words with no meaning behind them. You don't know the meaning either; because there is no meaning to this combination of words. I don't know very much about this stuff, but I've read a lot of books on it. NO ONE knows much about this! We have some theories... but they don't yet let us get to the point of bypassing the retina to project images directly into the brain. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Jan 30 14:46:31 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Jan 30 14:46:35 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE TECHNOLOGY. In-Reply-To: <20060130200433.75755.qmail@web50613.mail.yahoo.com> from "clyde lofton" at Jan 30, 2006 12:04:33 PM Message-ID: <20060130214631.30822.qmail@mall-net.com> > I FOUND OUT THAT INTERSEGMENTAL TRACTION TABLE > TECHNOLOGY IS HELD BY THE F.U.F.A.D.A.A.A. (FUCKED > UP FOOD AND DRUG ADDICTION ASSOCIATION ADMINISTRATION; > IN LAYMENS TERMS: THE F.D.A (FOOD AND DRUG > ADMINISTRATION). They don't hold anything! They may bar the use of something for a specific purpose; but they don't hold anything! And I doubt they can prevent the chiropracters from using this. Maybe; but doubtful. Something like this has been used for quite some time in various parts of the USA and in other countries. > PROPRIETARY BY THEM AND THEM ALONE, AND I DO NOT It is not propretary to them. Can not be! Not their charter. Whoever told you that is either not saying it so you can understand, or didn't understand what he was told. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 15:15:18 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 15:15:24 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: AUDIO FREQUENCY AND RADIO FREQUENCY. In-Reply-To: <20060130214228.27374.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <20060130221518.38615.qmail@web50602.mail.yahoo.com> javilk@mall-net.com wrote: > > There are some means by which sound can be modulated > > into the brain via RF. > > AUDIO FREQUENCY IS ALSO RADIO FREQUENCY..! No, it is not. Radio is not audio. Radio carries audio. The words are used very differently. LIKE MY ELECTRONICS PROFESSOR SAID MANY TIMES - "SAME BUT DIFFERENT". AUDIO FREQUENCIES ARE RADIO FREQUECIES; BUT HIGHER FREQUENCIES ARE NOT AUDIO FREQUENCIES..! CLYDE --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060130/cce313ff/attachment-0001.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 15:47:09 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Mon Jan 30 15:47:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Various topics.... In-Reply-To: <20060129.221552.19753.179573@webmail29.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <20060130224710.24679.qmail@web50601.mail.yahoo.com> clydelofton@yahoo.com wrote: thrustmeister@netzero.net wrote: 1. Sacred magnetricity, --I think you've got something! ['DAMNED'] STRAIGHT..! 2. Holy of holy's / Holy of hollies / Wholly of whollies / Wholly of wholly's. --Which of these are Divine? WHOLLY OF WHOLLY'S / WHOLLIES..! TO BE WHOLE..! ; WHOLISM..! 3. Ball lightning / Ball lightning computer analysis. --I can make ball lightning shoot out of a pipe like a Roman Candle, but I'm not going to tell anyone how. IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH GRID ANOMAL/Y/IES I THINK, BUT AM NOT ABSOLUTE CERTAIN. 4. Lichtenberg pattern[s]. --Some patterns can be telepathic picture implants without you knowing it. Just put it in their psyonic 3 dial box. DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS, UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRI AND / OR TET[RA] PYRAMID TOPOLOG/Y/IES. 5. Chaotic tetrites / chaotic triheeds / chaotic tetraheeds / chaotic trihexaheeds / chaotic trihectaheeds / chaotic tritetraheeds / chaotic tetratetraheeds / chaotic tetrahectaheeds / tetrahectals; etc.... --Are you halucinating? NO; I WAS JUST BRAINSTORMING AT INFINITE VELOCITY..! 6. Triheed[s], hex[a]heed[s] oct[a]heed[s], trihex[a]heed[s], octa-tri-hex[a]heed[s], etc.... --You forgot the most important one - the quadraheed. YEAH; I WAS, AND STILL AM NOT FULLY AWARE OF THE ENTIRE SCALE. IS IT THE DIATOMIC SCALE, OR ANOTHER SCALE? I NEED HELP HERE. WHAT IS THE SCALE, AND IS IT OF GREEK OR OTHER ORIGIN? 7. Triheedrite[s], tetrahedrite[s], hexaheedrite[s], hectaheedrite[s] / Crystallography. --That's better. RIGHT ON..! 8. Numeric scales / Musical scales. --Yes, I can see the numeric scale of a fret pattern, even without the frets. WENT TO ONE OF THE LOCAL MUSIC STORES THIS AFTERNOON AND WAS FILLED IN ON BOTH THE OCTA [EIGHT] HARMONY OCTAVE SCALE, AND THE CHROM[E]- CHROM-AT-IC CHROMIUM CHAOTIC CHAOS SCALE. WAS INFORMED THAT THE OCTAVE SCALE IS KNOWN AS THE DIA-TON-IC [DIATONIC] SCALE. BUT WHERE AND WHAT IS THE DIATOMIC SCALE; AND WHAT ARE ALL OF ITS LINGUISMS??? DO THE LINGUISMS OF: DI [2]; BI [2]; TRI [3]; QUAD [4]; HEX [6]; OCTA [8]; AND CHROMA [12] HAVE A SPECIFIC LINGUISTIC AND NUMERIC NAME? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCALE NAME IS; IF IT IS DIATOMIC OR OTHER. IT HAS TO DO WITH FRACTAL SCALING. 9. Lichtenberg [stochaic] fractals / chaos / crystals / computer analysis. --Remember, with the right algorithm, you'll be bigger than Bill Gates. YES; HARMONIC CHAOS. EXAMPLE: COMPUTER GENERATED SINEWAVE FULL RANGE AUDIO SPECTRUM SWEEPING; ULTIMATE INFINITE ETHEREAL SOUND CHAOS..! 10. Fulgerite crystals / analysis. --Must be good for something. CHAOTIC LIGHTNING GEOMETRY TOPOLOGY; CHAOTIC ICE CRYSTAL GEOMETRY TOPOLOGY / CHAOTIC PLANT GROWTH GEOMETRY TOPOLOGY; DIFFUSION LIMITED AGGREGATION, AND CREATION OF ELEMENTARY LIFE, AS WELL AS ELEMENTAL MINERAL / CRYSTAL GEOMETRIES / TOPOLOGIES. 11. Winter lightning / analysis. --With or without clouds? EITHER WAY..! 12. Fulger geometry / analysis. --With or without a killer app? I DON'T KNOW WHAT APP IS ABBREVIATED FOR. 13. 8, 4, and 2 geometry / geometries. --8 is a-grav, 4 is ether and 2 is ZPE. 8 - UNITY AND GRAVITY GATE, 4 - GHOST ENERGY - PURE ENERGY, AND: 2 I DON'T KNOW, EXCEPT THAT IT IS PROPORTIONAL TO EIGHT AND FOUR; EXCEPT THAT TWO LINES INTERSECTED IN X =' 2; CAR BATTERY POWERED IS ANOTHER TOPIC.... 14. Petrified lightning / analysis. --The sand tube means the lightning must be hollow. So what's the polarity? DON'T KNOW EXACTLY; A NOAA ENGINEER INFORMED ME THAT LIGHTNING CURRENT TRAVELS BOTH SKYWARD AND GROUNDWARD; THAT LIGHTNING IS BIPOLAR; WHICH ALLUDES TO LIGHTNING ALSO BEING OMNIPOLAR AS WELL. 15. Fulgerite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Meshes sound good. MESHES; LATTICES; GRID POINTS; GRIDPOINT GEOMETRIES / TOPOLOGIES. 16. Tetrite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Ditto. 17. Sprite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --Whoops! You need a fish symbol (christos) with the long L pointing forwards, hanging down from its gills. HMM.... DON'T KNOW EXACTLY; THOUGH THE DOUBLE FISH IS 8 UNITY. ONE FISH; FOUR..? I DON'T KNOW..? 18. Condensed matter; chaos / geometry / topology/ lattices / meshes. --It's the fourth dimension, YES. or depth, without chaos. The stationary points look smaller as you look in from the surface. The mesh is coherent. OK; I DON'T KNOW THE COHERENCE TOPIC. 19. Ultimate fractal chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes of nature. --Quantum hologram? LIKE THE HOLODECK ON THE NEXT GENERATION ENTERPRISE. 20. Klein bottle[s] / computer analysis. --It either has one surface or it doesn't. YES. 21. Dial, ditrite, hexal, hex[t]ite, trial, tri[t]ite, tetral, tetrite, quadral, quadrite, octal, --Shouldn't that be quadric? BOTH WAYS..! QUADRATIC AND QUADRAL; THEY CAN BE BOTH LINGUISMS. octite; chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes / etc.... 22. Cloud crystal[s] / chaos / geometry / topology / lattices / meshes. --With or without the HARP's activity? Or Sandia's teraflop spark cam picture generator? (Can you say "weather satellite"?) YEP. 23. Rainbow connection. --It's easier to coax the hydrogen away from the oxygen than to jerk it. Easier to make a pot of gold, too. Also makes a really short, high powered (gW) accelerator. - THE WHITE LIGHT 'CRYSTAL' PORTION OF THE E.M. SPECTRUM; BETWEEN YELLOW AND GREEN; CHROMIUM-PLATINUM-SILVER AND WHITE FULGERITE CRYSTALLYSIS [CHRIST-ALL-YSIS]; THOUGH I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE PERIODIC TABLE OF THE ELEMENTS, TO SEE EACH ELEMENT'S INDIVIDUAL ATOMIC WEIGHT, RELATIVE TO THE OTHER. 24. Platinum ice / platinum fusion / platinum crystallography / platinum mirroring. --Is this better than a fractalized amalgamation? DON'T KNOW. 25. Eight pointed star chaotic / eight pointed star geometric / eight pointed star topologic / eight pointed star 'lattice' / eight pointed star 'mesh'. --Do the lines curve inwards, outwards, or are they mearly straight? ACTUALLY, AFTER GIVING IT MORE THOUGHT; IT MIGHT BE CATEGORIZED AS NINE POINT STAR; THAT IS, IF THE CENTER NODE / GRIDPOINT IS COUNTED AS PART OF THE WHOLE. THE STAR OF JESUS / STAR OF BETHLEHEM / THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR. I NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT DEFINING TITLE / NAME FOR THAT SPECIFIC GRIDPOINT LATTICE GEOMETRY TOPOLOGY CARTOGRAPHY, ETC.. ; WHATEVER ITS SPECIFIC DEFINING SCIENTIFIC CLASSIFICATION TITLE IS. IT IS THE SYMBOL THAT CFD USES AT THE FOLLOWING WEBLINK: http://www.cfd-online.com/ http://www.bethlehemstar.net/ 26. Eight point star and its subtractives, additives, divisives and multiples. --Harmonics and sub harmonics. How about the eight point swaztica, with a caduceus ball next to each elbow? DON'T KNOW. 27. White light / platinum light / white lightning. --It only looks like light. 28. Elementary star [1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, Etc....] geometr[y]/ies. --The 1D star is Bodhi, the natural opening into the surface of the universe, with 23 equations from antiquity. 29. Distar / Tristar / Hect[a]star / Oct[a]star; etc.... --I thought you said that. I need help from others out there, with the in betweens; to help to fill in gaps that I haven't filled..! --How about a negative pi trion? 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With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060131/87885981/attachment.html From clydelofton at yahoo.com Tue Jan 31 07:55:40 2006 From: clydelofton at yahoo.com (clyde lofton) Date: Tue Jan 31 07:55:48 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] CLASSICAL MUSICIAN AND COMPOSER: ANTON WEBERN. Message-ID: <20060131145541.44913.qmail@web50612.mail.yahoo.com> ANTON WEBERN, THE MAD SCIENTIST OF MODERNIST MUSIC: http://www.andante.com/article/article.cfm?id=25942 THE LIFE AND MUSIC OF ANTON WEBERN: http://www.funtrivia.com/quizdetails.cfm?quiz=184051 --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060131/542faecc/attachment-0001.html From thrustmeister at netzero.net Tue Jan 31 11:25:37 2006 From: thrustmeister at netzero.net (thrustmeister@netzero.net) Date: Tue Jan 31 11:26:40 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: ball lightning Message-ID: <20060131.102610.1718.197272@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Yes, I also wonder about the distinction. I've researched everything I could find on the actual effect in nature, as well as lab reports claiming successful production. In my mind, these lab results should be classified as fireballs, or plasmoids. And this is also what I have. However, it does last for a couple of seconds or so after leaving the pipe, and can be manipulated to the extent that the erratic path can be stabilized and straightened. -Jerry -- "Nigel Sharp" wrote: > 3. Ball lightning / Ball lightning computer analysis. > --I can make ball lightning shoot out of a pipe like a >Roman Candle, but I'm not going to tell anyone how. I would be very very interested in any documented and demonstrated method of creating and manipulating ball lightning ... very very ... assuming this really is ball lightning and not just a fireball (cynic that I am). _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists