From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Jul 2 20:15:19 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Jul 2 20:15:34 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Global Warming Message-ID: <20060703031519.67960.qmail@mall-net.com> MIT professor of Atmospheric Sciences spouts off on Global Warming debate and Al Gore's Inconvenient Lies http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597 The bottom line, we just don't know! We were hotter in 1940, cooler in 1970's, and warm again in the 90's. Not only that, but something like half the so-called retreating glaciers are growing again. A review of Al Gore's so-called consensus reveals that of 980+ papers on the topic, 13 agree it is getting warmer, while a smaller number out of the 900 agree that it is clearly not true. I am not sure what dictionary Al Gore used to define his use of the word "consensus", but I call 1.3% of 900 a very indistinct minority. Checking Wikipedia, not necessarily known for accuracy in all areas, but a good starting point for research, we find some very interesting charts on global temperature. Sometimes CO2 levels precede hot spikes, sometimes they trail them. Many sources are cited. My conclusion is that it's been warmer and it's been colder. Looks to me that if past patterns repeat, global temperature should drift lower as time goes by; with major spikes and crevasses in either direction. We don't own this planet. We're not even running it. Indeed, the dominant life form by weight is some nematode living in the mud of the continental shelf. Let us hope they don't all suffer indigestion at once. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Jul 3 05:23:24 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Mon Jul 3 05:23:36 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Check out Science- vermont-farmers-use-manure-for-energy - AOL News Message-ID: <493.47f09b8.31da663c@aol.com> _Science- vermont-farmers-use-manure-for-energy - AOL News_ (http://news.aol.com/science/story/_a/vermont-farmers-use-manure-for-energy/n200606300809099900 02?cid=911) The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060703/17060af3/attachment.html From Vesta111 at aol.com Mon Jul 3 11:34:07 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Mon Jul 3 11:34:26 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Check out Portsmouth Herald Local Business News: 'Twenty years on hot tin roo Message-ID: <238.cd4f690.31dabd1f@aol.com> _Portsmouth Herald Local Business News: 'Twenty years on hot tin roofs'_ (http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/07022006/business-sun-biz.limb7020.html) The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060703/42d77ca4/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Jul 7 11:27:45 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Jul 7 11:28:09 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Does Language affect Wealth? Message-ID: <20060707182745.80670.qmail@mall-net.com> http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060706-085927-3579r.htm Interesting piece mentioning that many languages do not have the concepts of enterprise, depreciation, present value, etc. And that the concepts of personal freedom, liberty, and the like as we English speakers know them, are not well represented in other cultures. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From bobbyo696 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 7 23:13:48 2006 From: bobbyo696 at hotmail.com (Adam Crowley) Date: Sat Jul 8 06:55:53 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Does language affect wealth? Message-ID: Interesting, but biased and flawed. As one would expect from the Washington Times. He is relying on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, that the language we speak shapes our interaction with the world and our behavior in it. Although since he admits to not being a linguist and appears to have very little language knowledge (for example Arabic does indeed have words for enterprise, and the Arabic Language Academy never had a goal of limiting Arabic to the words in the Koran, the goal from the outset was to make sure that Arabic stayed up to date with the modern world) he is most likely referring to Orwell's use of Sapir-Whorf in 1984's language of Newspeak.Doktor Rumgoat _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you care about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry for the inconvenience. -Igor From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Jul 15 12:50:44 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Sat Jul 15 12:51:10 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <20060715190003.13E583D1B9@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <20060715195044.34000.qmail@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You know - I should use that name in my comicbook, if no one minds ;) mad-scientists-request@Mad-Scientists.ORG wrote: Send Mad-Scientists mailing list submissions to mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mad-scientists-request@Mad-Scientists.ORG You can reach the person managing the list at mad-scientists-owner@Mad-Scientists.ORG When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mad-Scientists digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Mad-Scientists.org power problems (Igor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:35:50 -0700 (US Mountain Standard Time) From: Igor Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Mad-Scientists.org power problems To: Mad Scientists mailing list Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Power is out at the International Society of Mad Scientists Headquarters and probably will be for a few more days while repairs are being made. The site will only be up for a few hours each day on generator power. Sorry for the inconvenience. -Igor ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists End of Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4 ********************************************* --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060715/a69ed6a3/attachment.html From Igor at Mad-Scientists.ORG Tue Jul 18 20:55:08 2006 From: Igor at Mad-Scientists.ORG (Igor) Date: Tue Jul 18 20:55:19 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <20060715195044.34000.qmail@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060715195044.34000.qmail@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't mind, as long as it's flattering ;) and you don't try to Trademark, Copyright or otherwise claim ownership of the name. 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The first gasoline delivered to Kitty Hawk was ordered by the Wright brothers - not for their airplane, but for their cook stove. Residents of Kitty Hawk were only mildly interested in the Wright's flying experiments, but were quite excited over the danger of having a barrel of highly explosive gasoline nearby. The rest, as they say, is history. And I've flown from FFA before- it's a bumpy little asphalt airstrip in Kill Devil Hills on the island, about a mile south of the Wright memorial atop Kill Devil Hill, and about three miles north of Jockey's Ridge. It is useful only for light aircraft and puddle jumpers, no airliners need apply. The airport code "FFA?" That's First Flight Airport, maintained by the National Parks Service. From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Jul 20 16:23:02 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Thu Jul 20 16:23:26 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 2-year Neanderthal genome project launches Message-ID: <20060720232302.92802.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 2-year Neanderthal genome project launches By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press WriterThu Jul 20, 4:18 PM ET U.S. and German scientists on Thursday launched a two-year project to decipher the genetic code of the Neanderthal, a feat they hope will help deepen understanding of how modern humans' brains evolved. Neanderthals were a species that lived in Europe and western Asia from more than 200,000 years ago to about 30,000 years ago. Scientists from Germany's Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology are teaming up a company in Connecticut to map the genome, or DNA code. "The Neanderthal is the closest relative to the modern human, and we believe that by sequencing the Neanderthal we can learn a lot," said Michael Egholm, a vice president at 454 Life Sciences Corp. of Branford, Conn., which will use its high-speed sequencing technology in the project. There are no firm answers yet about how humans picked up key traits such as walking upright and developing complex language. Neanderthals are believed to have been relatively sophisticated, but lacking in humans' higher reasoning functions. The Neanderthal project follows scientists' achievement last year in deciphering the DNA of the chimpanzee, our closest living relative. That genome map produced a long list of DNA differences between humans and chimps and some hints about which differences might be crucial. The chimp genome "led to literally too many questions, there were 35 million differences between us and chimpanzees ? that's too much to figure out," Jonathan Rothberg, 454's chairman, said in a telephone interview. "By having Neanderthal, we'll really be able to home in on the small percentage of differences that gave us higher cognitive abilities," he said. "Neanderthal is going to open the box. It's not going to answer the question, but it's going to tell where to look to understand all of those higher cognitive functions." Over two years, the scientists aim to reconstruct a draft of the 3 billion building blocks of the Neanderthal genome ? working with fossil samples from several individuals. They face the complication of working with 40,000-year-old samples, and of filtering out microbial DNA that contaminated them after death. Only about 5 percent of the DNA in the samples is actually Neanderthal DNA, Egholm estimated, but he and Rothberg said pilot experiments had convinced them that the decoding was feasible. At the Max Planck Institute, the project also involves Svante Paabo, who nine years ago participated in a pioneering, though smaller-scale, DNA test on a Neanderthal sample. That study suggested that Neanderthals and humans split from a common ancestor a half-million years ago and backed the theory that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead end. The new project will help in understanding how characteristics unique to humans evolved and "will also identify those genetic changes that enabled modern humans to leave Africa and rapidly spread around the world," Paabo said in a statement Thursday. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060720/ee9d4ebd/attachment.html From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Jul 20 16:24:52 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Thu Jul 20 16:24:57 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Schwarzenegger gives $150M stem cell loan Message-ID: <20060720232452.86612.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Schwarzenegger gives $150M stem cell loan By LAURA KURTZMAN, Associated Press Writer 35 minutes ago A day after President Bush vetoed expanded federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday authorized a $150 million loan to fund California's stem cell institute, which has been stalled by lawsuits. Schwarzenegger, a Republican who has been trying to put distance between himself and the unpopular president as he seeks re-election this year, said the state cannot afford to wait to fund the critical science associated with stem cells. "I remain committed to advancing stem cell research in California, in the promise it holds for millions of our citizens who suffer from chronic diseases and injuries that could be helped as a result of stem cell research," Schwarzenegger said in a letter to his finance director. The state's voters created the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine in 2004 when they passed a ballot measure that authorized $3 billion over 10 years for stem cell research. Lawyers with ties to anti-abortion and anti-tax groups have sued, arguing that the institute is unconstitutional. On April 21, a Superior Court judge ruled the institute was a legitimate state agency. But if opponents continue to contest the agency in court, they could hold up the institute's financing until at least next year. Elsewhere, Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat, announced Thursday that he is diverting $5 million from the state budget for stem cell research, despite repeated objections from state legislators. "Investing in research that can save lives and prevent serious illnesses is more than a sound public health strategy, it's our moral obligation," he said. The money will come out of administrative funds already set aside for the state Department of Healthcare and Family Services, Blagojevich said. Last year Blagojevich used an executive order to spend $10 million for stem cell research, a move that caught many state lawmakers off guard. Illinois lawmakers have previously voted against stem cell research, and this spring they did not take up the governor's proposal for $100 million in funding over five years. Legislators of both political parties criticized his move Thursday. "Any time this happens, it's not good for the process when you circumvent the legislative body and the voice of the people," said Democratic Rep. John Bradley. Embryonic stem cells are building blocks that turn into different types of tissue. Scientists hope to use them someday to regenerate damaged organs or other body parts and cure diseases. Some oppose such research because it entails the destruction of human embryos. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060720/c63c0216/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jul 20 16:28:14 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jul 20 16:28:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Today's trivia In-Reply-To: <001201c6ac3e$7918b510$c0f21c18@mikey> from "Michael Best" at Jul 20, 2006 04:52:51 PM Message-ID: <20060720232814.68998.qmail@mall-net.com> > At 10:35am, December 17, 1903, Orville Wright became the first human > to fly a heavier-than-air craft. > =20 > The first gasoline delivered to Kitty Hawk was ordered by the Wright > brothers - not for their airplane, but for their cook stove. Residents > of Kitty Hawk were only mildly interested in the Wright's flying > experiments, but were quite excited over the danger of having a barrel > of highly explosive gasoline nearby. > And I've flown from FFA before- it's a bumpy little asphalt airstrip > in Kill Devil Hills on the island, about a mile south of the Wright > memorial atop Kill Devil Hill, and about three miles north of Jockey's > Ridge. It is useful only for light aircraft and puddle jumpers, no > airliners need apply. The airport code "FFA?" That's First Flight > Airport, maintained by the National Parks Service.=20 I flew there too. I took a good run on a high sand dune at Jockeys Ridge, or maybe it was K8ill Devil Hill, I forget, leaped into the air, and flew for three seconds. It the second longest flight of our group in hang glider flight school that day. Then the wind picked up and school was over for the day. We kept driving south, never got the remaining flights promised in the course. But we had flown. It was an interesting experience in faith. For without faith, you are tense, and can neither learn nor control the flimsy piece of sail over your head. With the faith gained by crashing unhurt the first few times, you learn you can relax, can learn something before you crash. The longest flight, five seconds, was my friend Phil, who flew on his third or fourth attempt. His first trials were the worst in the class, crashing hard, like a rock. He was experimenting, he said, with this or that, confident he'd not be hurt. When he knew the effects of those controls, he put them together and was the only other person to actually fly any distance that day, outflying me. We had faith we could, and with some carefully measured cautions, faith we'd not be hurt badly as we tried. With that, we experimented, learned, and soon mastered our craft. By and large, life works that way. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jul 20 16:53:22 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jul 20 16:53:27 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] 2-year Neanderthal genome project launches In-Reply-To: <20060720232302.92802.qmail@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j s" at Jul 20, 2006 04:23:02 PM Message-ID: <20060720235322.13213.qmail@mall-net.com> > 2-year Neanderthal genome project launches By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press WriterThu Jul 20, 4:18 PM ET > Neanderthals were a species that lived in Europe and western Asia from > more than 200,000 years ago to about 30,000 years ago. Scientists from > Germany's Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology are > teaming up a company in Connecticut to map the genome, or DNA code. > They face the complication of working with 40,000-year-old samples, > and of filtering out microbial DNA that contaminated them after death. I remember seeing on of those guys eating at a luncheonette about 40 years ago. I've worked with several of them since, including narrowly missing having a Neanderthal as a boss once. They are out there. All the scientists have to do, is to look carefully at the variations in human physiognomy, and I am sure they will be able to piece together the genome from living samples. And while that may seem funny to you, especially if you've ever had a real lunkhead for a boss some time in your teens; the hardest part is getting the framework, not the individual pieces. After all, there's only a 2% difference between our DNA and that of a chimp's. Many of these sequences are going to be conserved across the species. So it may not be as far fetched as it seems to look within the variations of our own genome for traces of Neanderthal. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Jul 20 17:25:09 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Jul 20 17:25:18 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Today's trivia In-Reply-To: <20060720232814.68998.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <001701c6ac5c$20c814f0$03c7bc41@mikey> > -----Original Message----- > From: javilk@mall-net.com [mailto:javilk@mall-net.com] > > That's First Flight Airport, maintained by the National Parks > > Service. > I flew there too. I took a good run on a high sand dune at > Jockeys Ridge, or maybe it was K8ill Devil Hill, I forget, leaped > into the air, and flew for three seconds. That would've been Jockey's Ridge, from where the pirates of yore lured ships into the Graveyard of the Atlantic. In the days of Edward Teach, AKA Blackbeard, they used to extinguish the Cape Hatteras or Bodie lighthouses, tie lanterns around the neck of an old horse, and turn them loose on Jockey's Ridge. Sailors at sea, seeing the bobbing lantern on the horse's head, mistook it for the lighthouse, and ran aground on Diamond Shoals (This is where the Gulf Stream meets the cold North Atlantic current). The pirates immediately went out on shore boats and plundered the stranded craft. The town became known as Nag's Head. > It the second longest flight of our group in hang glider flight > school that day. Then the wind picked up and school was over for > the > day. We kept driving south, never got the remaining flights > promised in > the course. But we had flown. That would have been from a little shop called Kitty Hawk Kites. They are right across the road from Jockey's Ridge. > It was an interesting experience in faith. For without faith, > you are tense, and can neither learn nor control the flimsy piece of > sail over your head. With the faith gained by crashing unhurt the > first few times, you learn you can relax, can learn something before > you crash. > The longest flight, five seconds, was my friend Phil, who flew on > his third or fourth attempt. His first trials were the worst in the > class, crashing hard, like a rock. He was experimenting, he said, > with this or that, confident he'd not be hurt. When he knew the > effects of those controls, he put them together and was the only > other person to actually fly any distance that day, outflying me. Yep, and this is why Jockey's Ridge is the best place to learn to hang glide. Nice soft, warm sand to crash into, and a pleasant sea breeze to get you aloft. > We had faith we could, and with some carefully measured > cautions, faith we'd not be hurt badly as we tried. With that, we > experimented, learned, and soon mastered our craft. > > By and large, life works that way. Yes, I suppose it does... I *really* need to get back there. It is my favorite place on all of God's green Earth, and but a morning's drive from my house. A sample, live and online, complete with audio, from the Avalon Pier at Kill Devil Hills: http://www.avalonpier.com/wavecam.html Or a few miles further south, a few feet north of Johnny Mercer's pier at Wrightsville: http://www.gosurfcity.com/ -MB From creolescience at yahoo.com Thu Jul 20 17:37:36 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Thu Jul 20 17:37:41 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Neanderthals Message-ID: <20060721003736.47692.qmail@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " They are out there. All the scientists have to do, is to look carefully at the variations in human physiognomy, and I am sure they will be able to piece together the genome from living samples." I think if one looks to the Guanches originally in the Canary islands and the Basques they will see the remnants. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060720/f90cf771/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Jul 20 20:07:34 2006 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Jul 20 20:07:42 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Schwarzenegger gives $150M stem cell loan In-Reply-To: <20060720232452.86612.qmail@web36115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from "j s" at Jul 20, 2006 04:24:52 PM Message-ID: <20060721030734.31196.qmail@mall-net.com> > Schwarzenegger gives $150M stem cell loan By LAURA KURTZMAN, Associated Press Writer 35 minutes ago I can not help but wonder, what but a few million in honest clinical trials o Vitamin C would do for human health. I have seen, sitting in the offices of Dr. Cathcart, quite a few remarkable turn-arounds from high dose (60 grams) vitamin C IV's. And seen how much better I feel, when I maintain myself near bowel tolerance of vitamin C. But not just vitamin C. Many of the B vitamins have given many people major health improvements as well. Why should this be? Because organisms under stress consume vitamins, especially vitamin C, rather quickly trying to stay alive. Nowhere is this more true, than a fruit picked from the vine. We get that fruit three, five, sometimes even weeks later; whereas primitive man ate it right off the vine. Indeed, some studies I'd seen long ago on the vitamin content of tomatoes suggests that in three days, most of the C is gone. But since the vitamins can not be patented, they are not economically viable against the kind of major promotion our drugs receive, nor is enough money gained to back doctors accused of malpractice for prescribing drugs with known death rates. Indeed, most doctors are afraid of not prescribing drugs. One might read The Bolen Report http://bolenreport.com from time to time, as well as look up orthomolecular medicine in the search engines. One might also look at http://www.PaulingTherapy.com/ for heart disease treatments that word very well, having cured my father of most of his four decades of heart disease. Lest anyone think I am opposed to our modern medicine; I am not. Both orthomolecular and pharmacologically based allopathic medicine have vital places in our civilization. it's just that we seem to ignore the preventative maintenance of our bodies and our cars, till we feel and hear the results of such ignorance. But by then, it is too late. By then, the toxic pharmaceuticals are often our best bets, setting the stage for a series a cascade of failures. Still, this often does take longer than not doing anything. And with such help, we do reach our late 70's to early 80's; a considerable achievement given the average lifespan of 55 a mere hundred years ago. perhaps with more preventative maintenance, and perhaps some genes spliced from whales, which are sometimes shown to live to their 280's. we may do better in the near future. They are mammals like us. There is hope. -J- (John, Javilk@mall-net.com) CAUTION: I'm no doctor, I only tell computers what to do. Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. My opinions are subject to the availability of information. I learn new things each day, and so may change my opinions. For long lasting relief, consult a doctor who practices orthomolecular medicine. Ask, and I'll recommend mine. Today's Art Photo Chem / Fungus allergies Dr. Cathcart / Vit C. Arthritis Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright retained. Copyright (C) 2006, Javilk@mall-net.com . All rights reserverd. From creolescience at yahoo.com Fri Jul 21 13:00:03 2006 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Fri Jul 21 13:00:09 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] vitamins instead of stem cells Message-ID: <20060721200003.44029.qmail@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "I can not help but wonder, what but a few million in honest clinical trials o Vitamin C would do for human health. " Gotta go with you on this. Today's food is so nutrient depleted and the environment is so much more destructive cumulatively to our bodies. I love when these reports come out saying how vitamins supposedly do nothing for our health and yet the minute one is out of whack we are in a completely degenerative state. I think that if they could somehow make vitamins and herbs prescription only all of a sudden the medical community would tout the benefits of megadoses. Hell, they try and get people to take viagra and other drugs just on the fear that they might be having problems " If you are diabetic or have high cholesterol you may experience a diminished sex drive and performance etc etc" without any clinical analysis. Bottom line - live a neolithic lifestyle ( raw fruits and vegs, no grains and plenty of protien) as much as possible and you will be in your zone. Its how we evolved and what is , by our very DNA, what we are programmed to thrive in. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1?/min. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060721/11429835/attachment.html From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Jul 25 19:41:06 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Jul 25 19:41:11 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] FWD: An assumption of time Message-ID: <008b01c6b05c$f33eb250$03c7bc41@mikey> >From the Newelectrogravity list on Yahoo! ---------- An assumption of time Posted by: "shawn woodbury" n01d@sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:25 pm (PST) It's been a while since I wrote, last thing I posted was on liquid elements. But I have a new idea based on time travel. First I will start out with a senerio, then you can post idea's on a resultant for the senerio. Now suppose you took a satelite sent it in through the gravity of the sun and sped it up in it's revolution close to the speed of light. Now before it disintigrates say there was a camera on board as it passed the earth's atmosphere say the camera caught a guy on film, say this guy was watching a tv in which was recieving a signal from the satelite in which the satelite was filming him watching him self on the tv. This is my senerio please provide input as to what the guy would see considering time speed's up when aproaching higher speeds such as the speed of light! Thanks keep me posted. From mbest at triad.rr.com Tue Jul 25 19:53:41 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Tue Jul 25 19:53:47 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] I scream for Ice Cream! Message-ID: <008c01c6b05e$b440fc50$03c7bc41@mikey> Watching "Ham on the Street" on the Food Network channel, I saw the ultimate way to make ice cream! First, prepare your mixture to freeze, per any recipe you prefer. Custard base, cream base, whatever. Place mixture into a large bowl, and begin agitating it with a whisk, electric mixer, etc. While mixing, slowly add liquid nitrogen until the mixture is frozen. It will freeze so fast, the ice crystals will be sub-micron-size! The ultimate creamy ice cream! Further, this freezing process takes but seconds, so it can be prepared tableside at dinner parties. What a perfect dessert for Mad Scientists! -MB (The above recipe poses potential safety hazards, and should only be attempted by those skilled in the art.) From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Jul 28 10:16:46 2006 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Jul 28 10:16:54 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A golden opportunity! Message-ID: <006601c6b269$9b4a3600$03c7bc41@mikey> How about a product that would sell for $2.6 MILLION per GRAM! Wouldn't that make for a nice payday? Well, GSK has it! They are fast-tracking FDA approval for their new avian flu vaccine. 3.8 MICROgrams will cost $10. Of course, the market demand must be created in the MSM, so the sheeple will run out to plunk down their ten dollars for a dose. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/health/27vaccine.html?_r=1&th&emc=th &oref=slogin Gotta love that Bird Flu! Corollary- talk to your broker about GlaxoSmithKline stock! So, we need to create an imaginary pandemic, and then develop a placebo to vaccinate sheeple with! Easy money!! -MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060728/05fa8977/attachment.html From rhjuliano at yahoo.com Fri Jul 28 11:34:53 2006 From: rhjuliano at yahoo.com (Robert Juliano) Date: Fri Jul 28 11:35:03 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A golden opportunity! In-Reply-To: <006601c6b269$9b4a3600$03c7bc41@mikey> Message-ID: <20060728183453.86961.qmail@web51011.mail.yahoo.com> MB, how about we monkey-copy a product, and sell it at 10 cents on the dollar? only sell in other countries and/or sell it in the cities here? Bob --- Michael Best wrote: > How about a product that would sell for $2.6 MILLION > per GRAM! > > > > Wouldn't that make for a nice payday? > > > > Well, GSK has it! They are fast-tracking FDA > approval for their new > avian flu vaccine. 3.8 MICROgrams will cost $10. > > > > Of course, the market demand must be created in the > MSM, so the > sheeple will run out to plunk down their ten dollars > for a dose. > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/health/27vaccine.html?_r=1&th&emc=th > &oref=slogin > > > > Gotta love that Bird Flu! Corollary- talk to your > broker about > GlaxoSmithKline stock! > > > > So, we need to create an imaginary pandemic, and > then develop a > placebo to vaccinate sheeple with! Easy money!! > > > > -MB > > > _______________________________________________ > Mad-Scientists mailing list > Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG > http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Jul 28 12:59:20 2006 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Jul 28 12:59:35 2006 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] A golden opportunity! Message-ID: <244.26a58e00.31fbc698@aol.com> In a message dated 7/28/2006 2:35:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rhjuliano@yahoo.com writes: MB, how about we monkey-copy a product, and sell it at 10 cents on the dollar? only sell in other countries and/or sell it in the cities here? Bob Not a bad idea. I could go for that. Lets under bid the Russians that are talking to Mexico about buying arms and what not. Anyone in here know how to make heavy water---- Koreans who are starving would go for scrunches. Do you think we could make money selling TY*D* bol for toilets in the out back of Australia ? The greatest gift I was given as a child, was the love of the written word. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20060728/c93da8c4/attachment.html