From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Feb 2 06:36:01 2007 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 2 06:36:19 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Ad Bombs in Boston Message-ID: Boston is a hop, skip and a jump down the street from me. About 50 miles by car. I am watching this case very carefully as I find NOTHING funny about any of it. When arraigned yesterday, the 2 men who planted the devices and are facing years of incarceration did all of the bellow. They refused to speak with the press unless the topic was "Hair styles of black men in the 70ies" They laughed, joked, sneered at the court, aped the Judge, the court officers, the police, showed disrespect for everyone they encountered except the friends that showed up to support them. One of the men, has a green card, he claimed as a refugee from political prosecution. When it was pointed out to him that he could face deportment he just laughed. Their lawyer told the court that both men are independent video artists and pled them not guilty. What concerns me other then the fact that the 2 men acted in such a bazaar manor is the lack of communication with the city and the promotional staff of the program being promoted. This stunt cost Boston over a million dollars, tied up the areas for hours, prevented ambulances and fire trucks from responding, kept people sitting in their cars for over 4 hours while this was being sorted out. Not to mention the COLD, it was 20 degrees out and a nightmare for family's with young children being trapped unable to get home. This reminds me of the case last summer when a bunch of college kids went to Cape Cod on the ferry for a day of partying. They wanted to spend an extra day so they called in bomb threats to the ferry service. Thousands were trapped on the island for 24 hours as they could not get off. Some fun !!! No place to sleep, restaurants running out of food. The case now in court against these boys, from an ivy league school, is now focusing on the fact that any jail time could ruin their lives. What do you guys think ?? What is proper punishment for these students that are all over 18, well educated from big money backgrounds?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20070202/a8acf560/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 2 14:19:20 2007 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Feb 2 14:19:25 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Ad Bombs in Boston In-Reply-To: from "Vesta111@aol.com" at Feb 02, 2007 08:36:01 AM Message-ID: <20070202211920.3982.qmail@mall-net.com> Was this ad campaign an incident of real-world spam? > I am watching this case very carefully as I find NOTHING funny about any of > it. > They laughed, joked, sneered at the court, aped the Judge, the court > officers, the police, showed disrespect for everyone they encountered except the > friends that showed up to support them. That kind of disrespect is often fatal in some societies. At best, a sign of lack of applied intelligence. If they had said excuse me, we were directed to do this as employees by someone we trusted, and never thought anyone would mistake a sign for a bomb; that would be one thing. But the disrespect of authority and worse, disregard for the damage that was done to society in general, even if by accident, is itself a strong invitation to maximize their punishment to incarceration and deportation. And I think rightly so! If you make a mistake, say "I'm Sorry!!!" Turner had the guts to do that! Why not these idiots? There were some interesting posts by those installing pollution monitoring equipment in public areas. Several very expensive pieces of scientific equipment destroyed by bomb teams; teaching them to try to notify the police. I was on a team that monitored air pollution long ago. The police and all the local building tenants were told what we were up to. Some who grew up in Northern Ireland, where grade school kids have bomb identification lessons every few weeks, as well as some soldiers from Iraq wrote they didn't think these should have been mistaken for bombs. Other soldiers were less sure. > This stunt cost Boston over a million dollars, tied up the areas for hours, > prevented ambulances and fire trucks from responding, kept people sitting in > their cars for over 4 hours while this was being sorted out. > > Not to mention the COLD, it was 20 degrees out and a nightmare for family's > with young children being trapped unable to get home. That is potentially fatal! In many places, like New England in the winter, if you see a person on the highway in trouble, YOU STOP and help! I've done this many times. Next time it could be you. A couple of times it was me; I got what I gave, and was glad for it. Another person pointed out the devices were not active during the daytime, when they were found, nor clearly labeled. Thus one has less of a clue as to what it really is... But still, once destroyed and inspected, it SHOULD be clear what it is to just about anyone who has ever used a digital clock or LED flashlight. Another person pointed out that this was a low news day, so once ANY comment was made by the police or anyone monitoring the police radios, it is very difficult to stop rumors like "they could be bombs". But did the police try to manage the story? Or did they try to grandstand it with intent to milk it when it comes city budget time? Some think they were grandstanding. I think the blame lies on both sides. Turner did... not so much did the right thing, as showed they were upright decent people by saying they will pick up all reasonable costs. They, at least, seem responsible. The article on the Interference ad agency, saying their campaigns had resulted in some people being jailed _from time to time_(!!!) makes them seem quite irresponsible. Habitually, INTENTIONALLY Irresponsible! And maybe those kind of people DO need some serious "education". As do the idiots working for them. Turner can, and perhaps should sue Interference for bad will and additional expenses incurred. Boston may or may not be able to sue Interference for intent to disrupt their city. Advertising appears to be a free speech issue. But it goes beyond that I think we need to look at this as real-world spam and nip it in the bud. Thankyou for prompting that thought! Real-world spam. Do we want all our bridges and light posts covered with blinking glaring real-world spam? I Don't Think So!!! I think even we mad scientists don't really want to disrupt society for the sake of disrupting it. I think our "madness" comes from the experience of having our experiments, whatever they may be, substantially at odds with what conventional science holds true at the moment; as well as our experiences try to market our ideas. (I was astounded at the anger directed at me when I demonstrated a web-type browser in 1982-1984. NASA loved it; but almost all computer store owners felt immensely threatened by it. Stupid me, I didn't realize their largest profit center was training, not sales. No wonder they got Very Angry when they realized what my idea meant! I had to flee some sales appointments when cherry red store owners got in my face, screaming and physically almost attacking me! Certainly a bewildering experience when you don't understand market dynamics and the financial stress these owners were under as the PC training markets collapsed 1884-1986. I was a geek then. Maybe I am wiser now.) The "disruptions" we mad scientists seek, if they are to be called that rather than progress, are the technical revolutions our findings create. Things like Edison's light bulb and the Wright brother's airplane. And yes, the web browser that Someone Else succeeded in marketing in the 1990's, AFTER the computer training markets had collapsed and the world was ready for that next step. > This reminds me of the case last summer when a bunch of college kids went to > Cape Cod on the ferry for a day of partying. They wanted to spend an extra > day so they called in bomb threats to the ferry service. > > Thousands were trapped on the island for 24 hours as they could not get off. > Some fun !!! No place to sleep, restaurants running out of food. > > The case now in court against these boys, from an ivy league school, is now > focusing on the fact that any jail time could ruin their lives. > What do you guys think ?? What is proper punishment for these students > that are all over 18, well educated from big money backgrounds?? Jail time for the ferry holders! No first amendment rights issues, no socially redeeming anything here; nothing but blatant disregard for one's fellow man and society, for the society WE are ALL a part of. I can not weave the shirt upon my back, nor fab the chips in my laptop; I need the rest of society. And for that shirt and chip, I must make society happy to count me a member. It just makes life so much easier. --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From mbest at triad.rr.com Fri Feb 2 18:25:11 2007 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Fri Feb 2 18:25:32 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] RE: Light bulbs to become illegal! In-Reply-To: <20070201211324.53301.qmail@mall-net.com> Message-ID: <04bf01c74732$283c8420$6400a8c0@mikey> > Some "bright" folks in the Califaultia Legislature want to make > the > incandescent light bulb, 125 year old proven technology invented by > Thomas Edison, illegal. (Ok, so we no longer use the Edison carbon > filament, but the idea is pretty much the same.) > > As if saving $55 over the time you use an incandescent isn't > enough... WHY? What is their reason for this insanity? > I say let the people decide. Those who have problems with > flicker fusion absolutely hate most florescent lighting. The spiral > screw-in flourescents, which do blink faster than the long tube > flourescents, have other problems, including the phenolic printed Yep. Years ago, I bought an incandescent halogen desk lamp to mitigate the headaches caused by the heterodyne of the 60 Hz computer monitor and the fluorescent lighting at CIBA. > And are decorative chandeliers exempt? What of romance when > you can't dim the lights? Or what about creativity? Too much bright > light harms creativity. And creativity is what got us out of the > stone age into this far more comfortable and safer world we know > today. Imagination Economics! We *MUST* reduce the supply of Imagination in the USA, in order to raise the slope of the long-term Average Total Cost curve for Imagination. Basic Keynesian macroeconomics. Since Ideas can now be easily shipped worldwide, at nearly zero shipping cost, our free market economy of Imagination cannot compete with the command economies in Asia. Further, we cannot put protective tariffs on Ideas. So, the only solution is to make our domestic imagination economy into a similar command economy. Ritalin, public schooling, Draconian laws, tort lawsuits, etc., all further this goal. -MB From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 2 18:26:16 2007 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Feb 2 18:26:19 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Light bulbs to become illegal! Message-ID: <20070203012616.14158.qmail@mall-net.com> > > And are decorative chandeliers exempt? What of romance when > > you can't dim the lights? Or what about creativity? Too much bright > > light harms creativity. And creativity is what got us out of the=20 > > stone age into this far more comfortable and safer world we know=20 > > today. > > Imagination Economics! We *MUST* reduce the supply of Imagination in > the USA, in order to raise the slope of the long-term Average Total > Cost curve for Imagination. Basic Keynesian macroeconomics. =20 Nope! We don't have enough imagination coupled with the willingness to WORK to develop what is imagined. Man's material welfare comes from imagination multiplied by labor and the resources of this earth. That is the ONLY place our material welfare EVER comes from! Certainly Not from governments, which ration and create scarcity. (But they are useful for reducing the chaos.) But... we also have showed ourselves that if we don't really think about what we imagine... we get another dot-com boom and bust cycle which destroys a lot of capital. Our Imagination has created the electric revolution (Toasters! Electric Irons!), the automobile revolution, electric light revolution, the aircraft revolution, the radar revolution, the rocket and space revolution, the nuclear revolution, the computer revolution, the internet revolution... etc. NONE of which could be forecast by conventional bankers before they happened. We, the people of the United States of America did all this! (Ok, so the government runs the nuclear and space revolution at the moment.) > Since Ideas can now be easily shipped worldwide, at nearly zero > shipping cost, our free market economy of Imagination cannot compete > with the command economies in Asia. Further, we cannot put protective > tariffs on Ideas. So, the only solution is to make our domestic > imagination economy into a similar command economy. Ritalin, public > schooling, Draconian laws, tort lawsuits, etc., all further this goal. I don't think so for a minute! And I don't believe the people of the United States of America will put up with a command economy. I understand your fear; but I have more faith in the people. And I believe we need to put more faith in the people. And especially, in the Mad Scientists and Lone Inventors on this list. So what are the rest of us mad scientists doing??? -JVV- From mbest at triad.rr.com Thu Feb 8 19:06:17 2007 From: mbest at triad.rr.com (Michael Best) Date: Thu Feb 8 19:06:33 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Bose-Einstein condensate plays catch with light Message-ID: <001001c74bee$e9088da0$6400a8c0@mikey> _Scientific American_, February 07, 2007 Quantum Quirk: Stopped Laser Pulse Reappears a Short Distance Away Supercold atoms learn how to play catch with light Harvard University researchers have halted a pulse of laser light in its tracks and revived it a fraction of a millimeter away. Here's the twist: they stopped it in a cloud of supercold sodium atoms, known as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC), and then restarted it in a second, distinct BEC as though the pulse had spookily jumped between the two locations. "It's odd," says atomic physicist Lene Hau, the team's leader. "We can actually revive the light pulse and send it back on its way as if nothing had happened." Besides being a neat quantum game of catch, Hau speculates that the technique may someday be used in optical communications or ultraprecise navigation systems. BEC clouds are prized because their atoms' delicate quantum states all vibrate in unison, effectively creating one big atom that does things individual atoms cannot. In 1999, for example, Hau's group slowed light inside a condensate to "bicycle speed" (38 mph). For the new experiment, she and her colleagues shined a control laser beam through two independent BECs placed side by side. They struck the first BEC with a laser pulse, which slowed and transferred its energy into a collective shudder of the condensate atoms-a sort of slow-moving ripple of matter that mirrored the laser pulse. The researchers shut off the control beam long enough to give the wave time to travel the 160 microns between the BECs and then reactivated it. The laser caused the matter wave to coalesce (dump atoms) inside the second BEC, forcing the surrounding atoms to radiate like antennas and reproduce the original pulse. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=9D499E2E-E7F2- 99DF-32CE07A34D64386E or: http://tinyurl.com/2gjaur From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 9 22:07:06 2007 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Feb 9 22:07:16 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Quick! Get the Funnymentalists! Message-ID: <20070210050706.32272.qmail@mall-net.com> "Water from Noah's Flood finally located!" Says poster. The Beijing Anomaly, an anomaly in the transmission of earthquake signals, is now believed to be caused by an Arctic Sea's worth of water being trapped in the rocks below the sea. And... trapped is a relative term. Unfortunately for Lemuria and Hollow Earth fans, it does not form an underground ocean as some may wish, just a higher percentage of moisture in the rocks below the ocean. As to it's really being water from Noah's Flood... 7,200 years may not be long enough to reach that depth. Assuming that Noah's Flood was the Black Sea flooding, as Pitman and Ryan assert in "The Noah Flood". So that was indeed a joke. More: http://www.physorg.com/news90171847.html --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Sat Feb 10 22:41:44 2007 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sat Feb 10 22:41:51 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Drive a SUV, starve a Mexican? Message-ID: <20070211054144.2183.qmail@mall-net.com> As Gasohol production ramps up, corn is being diverted from tortilla production to fuel production. With that, the price of tortillas in Mexico is rising. As will the price of all foods, especially secondary foods such as livestock raised on primary foods. Any question where those hungry Mexicans are going to go? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aIjDGdgGmmMs&refer=home This does not bode well for Mexicans, nor the rest of us who eat food! --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Sun Feb 18 17:29:15 2007 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Sun Feb 18 17:29:21 2007 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The End: April 13, 2036 Message-ID: <20070219002915.56696.qmail@mall-net.com> Apophis... On April 13th, 2036, Apophis will come close to Earth, with a chance of hitting us. Do we mad scientists have any mad ideas how to insure this rock misses us? http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11207-asteroid-threat-demands-response-experts-warn.html http://space.newscientist.com/article/ dn11207-asteroid-threat-demands-response-experts-warn.html --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved.