From creolescience at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 14:12:59 2008 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Fri Feb 1 14:13:07 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] bigfoot on Mars In-Reply-To: <20080201190002.EC7DB398F2@kang.vjc.com> Message-ID: <238417.7813.qm@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would venture that "bigfoot" is a rock outcropping --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20080201/038a0792/attachment.html From javilk at mall-net.com Fri Feb 1 20:24:59 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Fri Feb 1 20:29:46 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Three global internet cables cut in one week Message-ID: <20080202032459.4237.qmail@mall-net.com> Three major cables broke this week, nearly isolating some of the Middle East and India. Sabotage? Military operations? Or just the weather? The London Times cites bad weather in the area, and advisories to ships to drop anchor. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article3291606.ece The Guardian provides schematic maps of the cables circling the globe. http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2008/02/01/SeaCableHi.jpg Defense Tech offers some interesting speculation http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003979.html --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Sun Feb 3 15:59:58 2008 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 3 16:00:06 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Three global internet cables cut in one week Message-ID: Could be any of the above, but, one needs to look at the history taking place in this time frame . For those who are hip on conspiracies theory, this is a ready made thrill to be argued and thought about for months. But what if, suppose this is in fact some infamous scheme , aka 007 style to do no good. What if the crazy people who claim THEY are coming to get us is in fact real ?. I am back to my goal in life, trying to make food for the people who go off earth and those that decide to investigate the oceans at great depth/ BTW who are you voting for.:? Who do you think will lead us for the ext 4-6 year when it comes to Science ? **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. 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Re: Three global internet cables cut in one week (Vesta111@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:59:58 EST From: Vesta111@aol.com Subject: Re: [Mad-Scientists] Three global internet cables cut in one week To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Could be any of the above, but, one needs to look at the history taking place in this time frame . For those who are hip on conspiracies theory, this is a ready made thrill to be argued and thought about for months. But what if, suppose this is in fact some infamous scheme , aka 007 style to do no good. What if the crazy people who claim THEY are coming to get us is in fact real ?. I am back to my goal in life, trying to make food for the people who go off earth and those that decide to investigate the oceans at great depth/ BTW who are you voting for.:? Who do you think will lead us for the ext 4-6 year when it comes to Science ? **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20080203/84ffb1ad/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Mad-Scientists mailing list Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG http://www.mad-scientists.org/mailman/listinfo/mad-scientists End of Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 36, Issue 3 ********************************************* I am a writer of detective novels. I find myself trolling unusual places, searching for story ideas. During ww2, an author of si fi short stories trolled the public libraries, and came up with a doozy, for the time. Enough of a doozie that the FBI picked him and the publisher of a monthly to interrogate them. The rules of fiction development no longer allow an author to just make stuff up. It has to fall within the realm of the probable. The conspirisy to slip musulm extremests into the country, finance their training in flying, and organize their activities so on one day, the lot of them board airplanes, take them over, and fly them into targets of oppertunity has been hashed over time and time again by mystery writers. Did Bin Ladun read detective stories? JFK read Ian Flemings Dr, No, and came up with a concept that became the special forces.Appearently he felt it was probable some terrorist could do as Dr. No. or the terrorist in Thunderball had done, and felt he needed a rapid response team to deal with it. Cutting off entire segments of the globe from the rest of the world is usually what a diticator, or a money maker does, before he makes a move, at least in popular fiction. Cutting off an entire segment of the globe from internet access sounds like the same. Let us look at the ridiculus in conspirisy theories. The Pentagon was attacked by a U.S. fired missle, and the twin towers were laced with explosives. Well, probability is not an issue here, to the author of this paticular piece of fiction. it came from the same mind that brought us "We did not land on the moon" and "The hollacast did not happen. " Again, probability is not addressed, with the authorship of these works."Aliens are abducting us", and "We are reverse engineering captured spaceships at area 51." More of the ridiculus."Scientists have perfected radar absorving maaterials, and created airframes that angle radar waves away from recieving stations" would be and has been ideas I have come up with, and other authors well before I even considered them. That, and the "rock and roll forever" generation of mental midgets amoung us and the trus secretrecy that exists around those projects gives the authors of the ridiculus a readership. My cousin, Hayden Hewes, wrote the ridiculus for the Weekly World News, and authored books on the subject. He also not only solicited Georga Govener James Carter for a UFO report, but during Carters champaign, saw to it Carter was tricked into assuring an investigation will take place when he took office. Well, one did, and Cousin Hayden is an outcast from the UFO community as a CIA spy, which is not true, but there is the ridiculus again. And because of him, and other relitives in politics, such as cousin Gaston Hewes, who ran for Mississippi Govener but lost by 3 votes, and Cousin William Hewes, who is a Mississippi State Senator, persons who do a little research on the internet have accused me of the same, that I am a secret MIB, which really sucks, expecially when I try to get laid, which is seldom enough, without roumors such as that rearint it's head now and then. I belive a conspirisy exists to make my life miserable, and that is belivable, since the feds keep tabs on me, and share info to other agencies, and local LAPD pick it up, and try to "Deal with the dangerous rough agent" or whatever reason, maybe recreation, but I get a lot of the ridiculus in my face for one person for a lifetime enough. One cable breaks. Too bad. Two break. O.K, this is getting serious. Three break. You betcha, some feds are on the case, and the President gets updates during his morning breifing every day. There is enough of the probable in this to warrent serious concern. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20080204/aed96036/attachment.htm From javilk at mall-net.com Mon Feb 4 13:30:37 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Mon Feb 4 13:35:31 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Re: Mad-Scientists Digest, Vol 36, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <568185.57033.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> from "Robert Hewes" at Feb 04, 2008 11:52:21 AM Message-ID: <20080204203037.70318.qmail@mall-net.com> > I am a writer of detective novels. I find myself trolling unusual > places, searching for story ideas. Bravo! Fiction is where the future comes from. Isaac Asimov wrote about robotics, and inspired a lot of kids to become engineers involved in robotics. He also wrote that the best intelligence test, is whether a person read science fiction. > During ww2, an author of si fi short stories trolled the public > libraries, and came up with a doozy, for the time. Enough of a doozie > that the FBI picked him and the publisher of a monthly to interrogate > them. Plutonium in a wine bottle. Hitchcock ended up in trouble over that one! He said he was followed for years after that one. There were probably others. > The rules of fiction development no longer allow an author to just > make stuff up. It has to fall within the realm of the probable. No longer? Never did! It's the public that's become more sophisticated and expects more today. We have more examples to compare the fiction with. 9/11? I dabble writing science fiction. Back in the early 90's, I came up with a wonderful plot for a novel myself, rather elaborate, plausible, etc. Would have made a heck of a novel! I enjoyed the logic of how developed, how it would work. One heck of a story! But Oops! It's a blueprint. No, I could not let myself inadvertently provide the plans for others to harm this nation I call home. (The end had the ruski spy turned saboteur returning to what he expected would be a Hero of the USSR medal; only to have him shot for inadvertently killing three very, very important technology harvesting moles by his unauthorized actions. The polit-burro was absolutely Lived over the loss! They almost had the core to something like Star Wars, when their key spies got wiped out by the mess.) (Memory of Napoleon Solo and I think it was the Strigas affair, where the Thrush spy ends up stealing what turns out to be the formula for American floor polish.) > One cable breaks. Too bad. Two break. O.K, this is getting serious. > Three break. You betcha, some feds are on the case, and the President > gets updates during his morning breifing every day. There is enough of > the probable in this to warrent serious concern. But sometimes, it is the weather. Number one and two when the advisory was issued to shipping traffic to drop anchor Now due to high winds. Number three was an old, known problematic cable that was only put back into service when traffic demanded more due to the loss of the other two. I'd dismiss it except for the fact that this provides an example of how to make chaos to the enemies of order. As to your being labeled an MIB agent, believe me, I know the feeling! The Green Monkey syndrome. Most of the bright end up labeled in some way. That's why we're Mad Scientists, right? It's a better label -- Upscale! No paltry government issue black suits for me! And now for a joke: Agent: "I'm from military intelligence...." Person of Interest: "Is there military intelligence?" Agent: "SHUT UP!!! It's the best kept secret we've got!!!" --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 6 02:06:09 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Feb 6 02:11:11 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Lunar Eclipse In-Reply-To: <20080204203037.70318.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Feb 04, 2008 08:30:37 PM Message-ID: <20080206090610.28168.qmail@mall-net.com> Two lunar eclipses coming up. One for the penquins this week, and one for most of us on the 20th. http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/LEmono/TLE2008Feb21/TLE2008Feb21.html Just think how you could have impressed the ignorant savages in days of yore by "making the moon disappear". --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From javilk at mall-net.com Thu Feb 7 13:35:14 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Thu Feb 7 13:40:35 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Biofuels? Think again! Message-ID: <20080207203514.47182.qmail@mall-net.com> Bio-fuels production is anything but carbon neutral. Clearing the land and farming it creates a carbon debt that can range from 17 years for sugar cane in the savanna lands, to 850+ years for soy oil from Brazil. Article: http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2008/02/07/new-reports-sound-caution-on-biofuels Meanwhile, I've just taken delivery of a diesel generator, and found the exhaust is excruciatingly dirty compared to propane. So I started doing some research into ways of reducing electro-generation pollution. Or at least toning down the diesel crap I was producing. While some claim diesel is the way to go to reduce our dependency on oil, especially through the use of burger bio-diesel, other research suggests the biodiesels produce more nitrous oxides than regular diesel, which is already FIVE TIMES worse than gasoline engines. Excluding particulates from the wear of tires, diesel is the major source of particulates despite the rather low number of diesel engines on the road. Again, biodiesel contributes more particulates than petrodiesel; though in cities, the worst source is the source of the oil for biodiesel -- restaurant fryers. The problem with diesels, is that in order to burn the fuel, it has to be heated (via compression) to the point where nitrous oxide production begins. Increase the heating, and more fuel burned, resulting in less particulates, but more NOx. Decrease the heating, and NOx production falls, but particulate production rises as less fuel is burned. And conversion to propane, because of it's wonderful flammable gaseous state, results in higher temperatures, more NOx, and considerably increased maintenance costs. In addition, biodiesel, because of various acidic components and the like, considerably shortens the life span of the engine itself, nevermind the injector wear. Ons study using palm oil reported cutting the time between overhauls to ONE QUARTER of that expected for normal use. Not to mention the chemistry of creating real biodiesel, which involved highly toxic chemicals like methyl alcohol. Then there are the Mexicans, complaining last year that the sale of corn to America for gasohol production tripled the price of tortillas. German executives and others were already buying up land in Africa for biofuel production, leading to a reduction in local food production. Biofuels... the fifth horseman of the apocalypse! As for wind, water, and sun... they are notoriously less reliable than diesel engines. I use solar. It goes off every night, and clouds are problematic; hence the diesel generator. A friend has hydro power. He spends a lot of time cleaning the lines, replacing alternators, etc. And he has little power in the California summer, when the stream nearly dries up. Several people up here have windmills. They seldom turn; but when they do, they often have to be slowed to keep from shedding blades. Wind is less reliable than solar or hydro, and we're right on the edge of the windy Pacific. Anyone have any suggestions? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved. From Vesta111 at aol.com Fri Feb 8 16:43:56 2008 From: Vesta111 at aol.com (Vesta111@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 8 16:44:06 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Lunar Eclipse Message-ID: I have found a very easy way to make the moon disappear, One just positions themselves outside their front door , has in hand a copper pot and a wooden spoon. When the moon begins to disappear, one just beats the hell out of the pot and chants if they wish. Sure enough, it works, has worked for centuries. Don't know why we need all this science to explain things to us, science cannot stop the moon from being swallowed up, but a pot and spoon seem to have done a better job over the eons then we can do today. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20080208/9173a9ee/attachment.htm From creolescience at yahoo.com Sat Feb 9 09:30:27 2008 From: creolescience at yahoo.com (j s) Date: Sat Feb 9 09:30:50 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Biodiesel etc Message-ID: <57764.62941.qm@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It seems like some type of hybrid approach is the best for alleviating the various problems and limitations each offers - wind and solar used in conjunction. I recently saw a program where a cheap sail like structure was made which increased solar output as well and was tracking the sun on a small clocklike device. I believe it was on the Science channel - I forget the shows name but its the one with the guys on the bus who survey inventors around the country. It also had something about genetically engineering bacteria to become batteries due to differences of potential, alkalinity and such. I think if one relies on any specific approach it will fail but spreading it around can maintain and even increase the output. I also think if the foundation is energy efficient it makes it easier as opposed to trying to rewire and existing structure which was made in the traditional manner. A concrete dome for example covered with solar cells and some wind generation seems like a viable choice. Or so it would seem. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://Mad-Scientists.ORG/pipermail/mad-scientists/attachments/20080209/e9da19d6/attachment.htm From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 20 18:04:17 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Feb 20 18:08:58 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] Hydrogen from Sunlight Message-ID: <20080221010417.94122.qmail@mall-net.com> Although not yet very efficient, new technique using nanoscale dye and catalyst have promise for generating hydrogen from water and sunlight. http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn13344-solar-cell-speeds-hydrogen-production.html Anyone have any better ideas? -JVV- From javilk at mall-net.com Wed Feb 20 21:39:52 2008 From: javilk at mall-net.com (javilk@mall-net.com) Date: Wed Feb 20 21:44:31 2008 Subject: [Mad-Scientists] The Ecology of Clouds In-Reply-To: <20080221010417.94122.qmail@mall-net.com> from "javilk@mall-net.com" at Feb 21, 2008 01:04:17 AM Message-ID: <20080221043952.84145.qmail@mall-net.com> Bacteria and fungi are routinely found in clouds. Clouds can be a surprisingly rich environment for life despite the rather extreme and variable conditions. http://judson.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/when-life-goes-cloudy/index.html Thoughts? Comments? --javilk@mall-net.com---------------------------------- Life is to be LIVED regardless of what is out there. Fear destroys life. Destroy your fear and live. ------------------------------------------------------- Not to be construed as psychological advice. Void where prohibited by law. Not available in all mental states. ------------------------------------------------------- Another Javilk (tm) brand post. Copyright (C) 2007, Javilk@mall-net.com Copyright retained. All rights reserved.