================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:53:35 -0500 (EST) From: AndyRobts@aol.com Reply-To: AndyRobts@aol.com To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Is there life on Titan ? I have been on this list for over a month and heard nothing. Is this because A) It doesn't work B) I am the only subscriber C) Nobody has anything to say D) The list has no purpose anyone can think of Andy R -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mrin46.mail.aol.com (mrin46.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Dec 1997 17:52:04 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin46.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA16031 for MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org.; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:53:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971202195334_414396088@mrin46.mail.aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: Jeff Haynes Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: "'MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM'" Subject: RE: well, speaking ... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:25:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD009E.E4DDB610" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD009E.E4DDB610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You get good net access out there? -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Sharp [SMTP:sharp@aspp1.spole.gov] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 1997 7:08 PM To: madsci-announce@VJC.COM Subject: well, speaking ... .. as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic. Anyone who knows the Sirens of Titan, either the book or the song, will already know the answer to the original question, of course. 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Thu, 04 Dec 1997 08:23:35 -0700 Received: from marvin.res.WPI.NET (marvin.res.WPI.NET [130.215.248.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20286 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by marvin.res.WPI.NET with Microsoft Mail id <01BD009E.E4DDB610@marvin.res.WPI.NET>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:25:08 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD009E.E4DDB610@marvin.res.WPI.NET> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:23:39 -0700 (MST) From: Tim Jensen Reply-To: Tim Jensen To: AndyRobts@aol.com CC: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? In-Reply-To: <971202195334_414396088@mrin46.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII E) I've been so busy devising my evil scheme to conquer the world that email became a low priority. On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 AndyRobts@aol.com wrote: > I have been on this list for over a month and heard nothing. > > Is this because > > A) It doesn't work > B) I am the only subscriber > C) Nobody has anything to say > D) The list has no purpose anyone can think of -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from engr.arizona.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Dec 1997 18:18:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (jensen@localhost) by engr.arizona.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA28515; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:23:40 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 20:30:59 -0500 From: Jeff McNew Reply-To: Jeff McNew Organization: Global Domination Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AndyRobts@aol.com CC: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? References: <971202195334_414396088@mrin46.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Holy Shit you know what i forgot I was on this thing..i swear i have been subscribed for like a year and this is the first mail i have got...damn this is a surprise...Well I al alive :) I'll write ya back so it seems as if there are more ppl I guess :P Jeff AndyRobts@aol.com wrote: > I have been on this list for over a month and heard nothing. > > Is this because > > A) It doesn't work > B) I am the only subscriber > C) Nobody has anything to say > D) The list has no purpose anyone can think of > > Andy R -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mail1.visi.net by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Dec 1997 18:29:41 -0700 Received: from visi.net (jeffro@ppp-9-45.nn.visi.net [206.246.230.109]) by mail1.visi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00336; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:31:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345FCC53.7F2B9432@visi.net> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:54:24 +1100 (EST) From: Nigel Hey Reply-To: Nigel Hey To: Jeff McNew CC: AndyRobts@aol.com, MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? In-Reply-To: <345FCC53.7F2B9432@visi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Aaargh...theres life out there...I too have been on this list since the last ice age and this is the first correspondence I've seen... Lads... Good to hear from you all. More tomorrow when Igor doesn't want to word-process...:-) Nigel Hey On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Jeff McNew wrote: > Holy Shit you know what i forgot I was on this thing..i swear i have > been subscribed for like a year and this is the first mail i have > got...damn this is a surprise...Well I al alive :) I'll write ya back so > it seems as if there are more ppl I guess :P > > Jeff > > AndyRobts@aol.com wrote: > > > I have been on this list for over a month and heard nothing. > > > > Is this because > > > > A) It doesn't work > > B) I am the only subscriber > > C) Nobody has anything to say > > D) The list has no purpose anyone can think of > > > > Andy R > > > > --- Nigel J. Hey +61 2 9683 4883 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (KRAKATOA.MPCE.MQ.EDU.AU) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 04:52:51 -0700 Received: (from nhey@localhost) by krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA15511; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:54:24 +1100 Message-ID: ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: Monica Reply-To: Monica To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been here since last spring--I found the group while looking for references for a creative writing essay that i was writing on "my chosen career." This is the first that I have heard from the group (except for a letter last week) since then. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Monica E. Hauck mhauck@warren-wilson.edu; mhauck@hancock.net Student and hopeful May 1999 graduate of Warren Wilson College. Asheville, NC *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from owl.warren-wilson.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:09:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by owl.warren-wilson.edu via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:20:33 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.95 1997-May-7 #4 built 1997-Jul-9) Message-ID: ================================================================================ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: User unknown To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) from uucp@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- jhowe (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 jhowe... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cyber.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with UUCP id LAA27111 for jhowe; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from vjc.com by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA16241 for jhowe; Wed, 3 Dec 97 11:11:56 -0500 X-Listname: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Received: from owl.warren-wilson.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:09:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by owl.warren-wilson.edu via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:20:33 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.95 1997-May-7 #4 built 1997-Jul-9) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: Monica Reply-To: Monica To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been here since last spring--I found the group while looking for references for a creative writing essay that i was writing on "my chosen career." This is the first that I have heard from the group (except for a letter last week) since then. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Monica E. Hauck mhauck@warren-wilson.edu; mhauck@hancock.net Student and hopeful May 1999 graduate of Warren Wilson College. Asheville, NC *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:14:53 -0700 Received: by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20366 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 97 11:46:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost) by cyber.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with internal id LAB27111; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <199712031612.LAB27111@cyber.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 19:28:53 -0500 From: Danny Confalone Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monica , MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI Monica ! i keep getting mail from all kind of people on the subject " is there life on Titan " . i'm confused why you asked ? When i joined i thought the mad scientist club would be a place where we could exchange ideas or get some help on a few projects. but all i ever get is mail about titain todate i must of received 10 > 15 e-mail on the subject. i sugest a get to know a mad scientist and sent a Q to everyone like "what do you do that would make you feel like a mad scientist " . now if we mailed this Q around we get a good base of who is in the club. NO ? if you want to rephrase the Question go ahead. i'm sure it would make for better reading than some dead rock. C..Ya! Danny Monica wrote: > I've been here since last spring--I found the group while looking for > references for a creative writing essay that i was writing on "my chosen > career." > > This is the first that I have heard from the group (except for a letter > last week) since then. > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Monica E. Hauck > mhauck@warren-wilson.edu; mhauck@hancock.net > Student and hopeful May 1999 graduate of Warren Wilson College. > Asheville, NC > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mailhost.interlink.net by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:26:34 -0700 Received: from interlink.net (G2175.258.InterLink.NET [199.202.241.254]) by mailhost.interlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15438; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:31:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3485F945.32298B3F@interlink.net> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:28:48 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: Re: Is there life on Titan ? - I am away I am at the South Pole until January 1998. I may read my mail erratically. Other contacts: image related inquiries, Suzanne Jacoby (sjacoby@noao.edu) computer accounts, Sue Hayes (shayes@noao.edu) Sun matters, Mike Peralta (mperalta@noao.edu) VMS issues, Matthew Fishburn (mfishburn@noao.edu) Web activities, Jeannette Barnes (jbarnes@noao.edu) Any other computer stuff, Steve Grandi (sgrandi@noao.edu) Personal messages, Yma Sharp (ysharp@noao.edu) I hope that your mail can be handled by one of these people, but if not then I fear you will have to be patient. Thank you. Nigel Sharp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from robur.tuc.noao.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:27:07 -0700 Received: by vms.noao.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 11; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:28:49 MST Message-ID: <009BE399.60B021F0.11@vms.noao.edu> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: LMAShaw@aol.com Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: jensen@engr.arizona.edu, AndyRobts@aol.com CC: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? In a controlled trial of the past three months the single reply represents 100% of the meaning of the site. Statistically I suppose that in three months time a second reply will come thereby halving the significance of this. I hate statistics!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mrin86.mail.aol.com (mrin86.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:44:36 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin86.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA24860; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:46:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971203194619_1504892616@mrin86.mail.aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: LMAShaw@aol.com Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: mhauck@warren-wilson.edu, MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? Wow , what an abundance of mail. So were all mad scientists on Titan - and none of us can remember which website this all came from. I think that just about summarises the current situation. Right then lets get started........... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mrin44.mail.aol.com (mrin44.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:49:01 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin44.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA15786; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:50:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971203195036_1906371401@mrin44.mail.aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:10:35 -0700 (MST) From: Tim Jensen Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: LMAShaw@aol.com CC: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? In-Reply-To: <971203195036_1906371401@mrin44.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 LMAShaw@aol.com wrote: > Wow , what an abundance of mail. So were all mad scientists on Titan - and > none of us can remember which website this all came from. http://www.mad-scientists.org > I think that just about summarises the current situation. > Right then lets get started........... Does that mean you're done complaining? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from engr.arizona.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 18:12:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (jensen@localhost) by engr.arizona.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA21761; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:10:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:37:01 -0500 (EST) From: AndyRobts@aol.com Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: madsci-announce@mad-scientists.org Subject: mailing list MADSCI-ANNOUNCE info As the person who inserted a pointed stick into this particular ants nest I feel its my duty to post this information for those who don't know what they are sitting on. The International Society of Mad Scientists http://www.mad-scientists.org/madsci/ > You have been added to mailing list MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@Mad-Scientists.ORG. > > NO ADVERTISING, BLATANTLY COMMERCIAL OR OTHER SPAM PLEASE! > > Further administrative requests regarding this list should be sent to > > Internet: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG > MXserver@Mad-Scientists.ORG > > The following commands can be handled automatically by > MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG: > > SIGNOFF - to remove yourself from the list > REVIEW - to get a list of subscribers > QUERY - to get the status of your entry on the list > SET NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail > SET MAIL - to reverse the NOMAIL setting > SET CONCEAL - to conceal yourself from REVIEW listings > SET NOCONCEAL - to reverse the CONCEAL setting > SET NOREPRO - to prevent the list from sending you your own > postings > SET REPRO - to reverse the NOREPRO setting > LIST - to get a list of mailing lists available on this > host > HELP - to receive a help file > QUIT - to terminate processing (skipping signature, etc.) > > The syntax of these commands for use with the MXserver emulator is: > > SIGNOFF MADSCI-ANNOUNCE > REVIEW MADSCI-ANNOUNCE > QUERY MADSCI-ANNOUNCE > SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]MAIL > SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]CONCEAL > SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]REPRO > LIST > HELP > QUIT > I've received about 14 e-mails from the list on the last 2 days, including a long message full of info on the 'Life on Titan' question, and a message from the south pole. I will wait a few days for people who are too busy to be bothered ( send the message SIGNOFF MADSCI-ANNOUNCE to MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG instead of to me ) then I shall forward the stuff that didn't get posted to the list ( madsci-announce@Mad-Scientists.org ) Soon we will have constructed a network of knowlege and brain power that can solve all the world's problems. Or at least had fun trying. Andy R -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mrin85.mail.aol.com (mrin85.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 18:39:31 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin85.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA06617 for madsci-announce@mad-scientists.org; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:37:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971203203701_-892588814@mrin85.mail.aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 21:05:53 EST To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv10) I have just became a part of this area .. I am reading e-mail of participants that have been on the mailing list for some time ... yet now are receiving mail for the first time.. My experience ... as above new on the block ... two weeks .. getting mail ... Thank you ... the British are rather vague anyway ... Life on Titan ... Why not? Sarah ... All have a positive day... if possible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from imo10.mail.aol.com (imo10.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 19:18:46 -0700 Message-ID: <43fbf824.34861003@aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: James Bonner Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: "'MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM'" , Monica , MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: RE: Is there life on Titan ?We need a Project. Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:48:48 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Dear all I have read through all the e-mails and notice one theme than runs through them all . We are in desperate need of a project that will put us on the map and us all our talents What do you think ???????????????????????. > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Confalone [SMTP:dac111@interlink.net] > Sent: 04 December 1997 00:29 > To: Monica; MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org > Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? > > HI Monica ! > > i keep getting mail from all kind of people on the subject " is there > life on Titan > " . i'm confused why you asked ? When i joined i thought the mad > scientist club > would be a place where we could exchange ideas or get some help on a > few projects. > but all i ever get is mail about titain todate i must of received 10 > > 15 e-mail on > the subject. > > i sugest a get to know a mad scientist and sent a Q to everyone like > "what do > you do that would make you feel like a mad scientist " . now if we > mailed this Q > around we get a good base of who is in the club. NO ? if you want to > rephrase the > Question go ahead. i'm sure it would make for better reading than > some dead rock. > > C..Ya! > Danny > > > > > > > Monica wrote: > > > I've been here since last spring--I found the group while looking > for > > references for a creative writing essay that i was writing on "my > chosen > > career." > > > > This is the first that I have heard from the group (except for a > letter > > last week) since then. > > > > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > ~*~*~*~*~ > > Monica E. Hauck > > mhauck@warren-wilson.edu; mhauck@hancock.net > > Student and hopeful May 1999 graduate of Warren Wilson College. > > Asheville, NC > > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > *~*~*~*~* > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from constellation.uk.insnet.net by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 01:50:12 -0700 Received: from server1.derry.norcel.com (du39-44.edex.co.uk [193.193.39.44]) by constellation.uk.insnet.net (8.8.6/insnet-1.4-server) id KAA19101; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:56:49 +0100 Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <27E43C522316D111B8EE002035759D9C2712@SERVER1> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: James Bonner Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: "'MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM'" , Monica , MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org Subject: RE: Is there life on Titan ?We need a Project. Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:48:48 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Dear all I have read through all the e-mails and notice one theme than runs through them all . We are in desperate need of a project that will put us on the map and us all our talents What do you think ???????????????????????. > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Confalone [SMTP:dac111@interlink.net] > Sent: 04 December 1997 00:29 > To: Monica; MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org > Subject: Re: Is there life on Titan ? > > HI Monica ! > > i keep getting mail from all kind of people on the subject " is there > life on Titan > " . i'm confused why you asked ? When i joined i thought the mad > scientist club > would be a place where we could exchange ideas or get some help on a > few projects. > but all i ever get is mail about titain todate i must of received 10 > > 15 e-mail on > the subject. > > i sugest a get to know a mad scientist and sent a Q to everyone like > "what do > you do that would make you feel like a mad scientist " . now if we > mailed this Q > around we get a good base of who is in the club. NO ? if you want to > rephrase the > Question go ahead. i'm sure it would make for better reading than > some dead rock. > > C..Ya! > Danny > > > > > > > Monica wrote: > > > I've been here since last spring--I found the group while looking > for > > references for a creative writing essay that i was writing on "my > chosen > > career." > > > > This is the first that I have heard from the group (except for a > letter > > last week) since then. > > > > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > ~*~*~*~*~ > > Monica E. Hauck > > mhauck@warren-wilson.edu; mhauck@hancock.net > > Student and hopeful May 1999 graduate of Warren Wilson College. > > Asheville, NC > > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > *~*~*~*~* > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from constellation.uk.insnet.net by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 01:50:16 -0700 Received: from server1.derry.norcel.com (du39-44.edex.co.uk [193.193.39.44]) by constellation.uk.insnet.net (8.8.6/insnet-1.4-server) id KAA19112; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:56:52 +0100 Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <27E43C522316D111B8EE002035759D9C2712@SERVER1> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 09:09:41 -0800 From: al951966@student.paisley.ac.uk (Alisdair Logan) Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Organization: SUPREME RULERS Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@mad-scientists.org. Subject: [Fwd: hello] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------14847F58347D" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------14847F58347D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mad scientists unite! This is acopy of the e-mail sent to the President of the USA, which declares my rulership of the Universe. Hopefully together (under my rulership) our reckless experimentation will make the universe a better place for scientists and inventors everywhere! Al, Minister of Truth and Propaganda http://www.angelfire.com/al/Al97/index.html --------------14847F58347D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3485B52C.5972@student.paisley.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 11:38:20 -0800 From: Alisdair Logan Reply-To: al951966@student.paisley.ac.uk Organization: SUPREME RULERS Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: president@whitehouse.gov Subject: hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unless you have any objections, which to be perfectly honest I dont care about, I have decided to proclaim myself Lord High Master of the Universe. I will assume my duties on the first second of the new millenium, and this should give you time to leave this planet and find another universe, after which I will begin legal proceedings to evict everyone from my property, unless rent is agreed on and paid. Yours sincerely, Al, Minister of Truth and Propaganda and soon to be Lord High Master of the Universe. Have a nice day! --------------14847F58347D-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from kelvin.student.paisley.ac.uk by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 02:09:41 -0700 Received: from csu5_13.student.paisley.ac.uk ([146.191.162.96]) by kelvin.student.paisley.ac.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA21743 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:10:19 +0000 Message-ID: <3486E3D5.61B9@student.paisley.ac.uk> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 00:07:31 NZD From: sharp@aspp1.spole.gov (Nigel Sharp) Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: madsci-announce@vjc.com Subject: well, speaking ... ... as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic. Anyone who knows the Sirens of Titan, either the book or the song, will already know the answer to the original question, of course. Nigel Sharp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from erebus.mcmurdo.gov by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 04:07:09 -0700 Received: from aspen.spole.gov ([199.4.250.2]) by erebus.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23811 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:08:22 GMT Received: from aspp1.spole.gov (aspp1.spole.gov [204.89.132.135]) by aspen.spole.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA17965 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:07:52 +1300 Received: by aspp1.spole.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1-SP0) id AA00721; Fri, 5 Dec 97 00:07:31 NZD Message-ID: <9712041107.AA00721@aspp1.spole.gov> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:19:56 +0000 (GMT) From: CL Vernon Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: well, speaking ... In-Reply-To: <9712041107.AA00721@aspp1.spole.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Nigel, Are you a 'real' scientist? 'cos I'm in my 2nd year of a physics degree and I want a job as a 'real' scientist in 2 years time... Do you have any advice? Chris. On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Nigel Sharp wrote: > ... as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am > currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the > wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of > course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to > -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say > that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic. > > Anyone who knows the Sirens of Titan, either the book or the song, > will already know the answer to the original question, of course. > > Nigel Sharp > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 05:18:41 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (clv101@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12281 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:19:52 GMT Message-ID: ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) From: AndyRobts@aol.com Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@vjc.com Subject: Re: well, speaking ... In a message dated 04/12/97 14:24:32, you write: > .. as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am > currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the > wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of > course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to > -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say > that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic. > > Anyone who knows the Sirens of Titan, either the book or the song, > will already know the answer to the original question, of course. > > Nigel Sharp > > Hullo Nigel, I knew it , you really are at the South pole! And a Kurt Vonnegut Jr reader to boot. It's really quite exciting to get a message from Antarctica, I hope you will tell us all about it ( that is unless you are testing new weapons systems for the US defence industry ). I wonder if there are any Web sites relating to your work or the S. Pole in general you could point us to. I understand they are developing technology for future space probes by looking at the hardware that has to cope with conditions where you are. Which way does the water go down the plughole? I hope the fog clears soon, Andy R -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from mrin39.mx.aol.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 11:01:17 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin39.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA00549 for MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@vjc.com; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971204130300_-1665814754@mrin39.mx> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 19:17:30 EST To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: well, speaking ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv10) Hello Nigel Regarding you message << .... as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic.>> I quote the whole message because it is just "ALL ALL," mad areas and conditions ... made by day ... I am a Brit and we would say you definitely qualify as a "Complete Idiot ... alias ... Frozen Nut." Serious moment if that is acceptable in the mad area: Two questions... what is the research area you are involved in ... and how is the reception for e-mail so clear there? Nigel, thank you for lots of laughter ... Sarah. P.S. Do you have enough St. Bernards and "Hot Toddie" barrels? ... if not, can this Mad group ... start appealing for supporting funds? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from imo05.mail.aol.com (imo05.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 17:22:31 -0700 Message-ID: <199b55f0.348748c3@aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: LMAShaw Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:38:00 EST To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: well, speaking ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv10) Tell me bout your S Pole thing. Do you get to go on line much ? Is it all on mobile phones? Who pays the phone bill?! I am a doctor in UK. Does that count as a scientist - its certainly mad! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from imo05.mail.aol.com (imo05.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 18:44:28 -0700 Message-ID: <6e29ee12.34875ba9@aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 00:01:10 -0500 (EST) From: dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: well, speaking ... In-reply-to: <9712041107.AA00721@aspp1.spole.gov> To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I must be mad...I envy you! Dan On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Nigel Sharp wrote: > ... as a mad scientist, which I can easily prove by the fact that I am > currently sitting at the South Pole, where the temperature is -25F, the > wind-chill is usually below -50F, and we're currently fogged in (of > course, this is the height of summer here, in the winter it drops to > -100F or below with a good extra 80 degrees of wind chill), I would say > that it is a simple joy to see any traffic on this list, whatever the topic. > > Anyone who knows the Sirens of Titan, either the book or the song, > will already know the answer to the original question, of course. > > Nigel Sharp > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from laurel.emich.edu by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 1997 21:56:38 -0700 Received: from ONLINE.EMICH.EDU by ONLINE.EMICH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #16910) id <01IQSMC1R0KY90RQRG@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU> for MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:01:10 EST Message-ID: ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM From: Peasbody Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:06:05 EST To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: who gives a monkeys uncle? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Life on Titan? who cares? the bloody definition is so flimsly a microscopic pixel with a protien would be called life. Whahey. And I hope the Antartic/Arctic melts under you from global warming (possible caused by hot media debate) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from imo16.mail.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:09:27 -0700 Message-ID: <468fb710.348888e6@aol.com> ================================================================================ X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 12:24:38 NZD From: sharp@aspp1.spole.gov (Nigel Sharp) Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: madsci-announce@vjc.com Subject: what have I started ?? There seems to be enough interest to respond to the list. I'm not sure this is really part of being a proper Mad Scientist, although no doubt part of taking over the world is knowing how to survive everywhere. > I knew it , you really are at the South pole! And a Kurt Vonnegut Jr > reader to boot. Yes, I really am. I said I was mad. The mist has cleared, the temperature is down to -25F, windchill at -60 (conversion to centigrade is up to the reader, or you could come to my class where I teach it). > It's really quite exciting to get a message from Antarctica, It's also quite tricky, since the satellites only nod our way for a few hours a day. They're putting in a link to NASA's TDRS-1 satellite, which has been drifting southwards, but we don't know for sure when that will be up and running. The pole was nearly two weeks late opening from the winter this year - normally around the end of October is when the really crazy people who winter here (Jan.-Nov. with no outside contact and no possibility of relief and only two dozen people) get to shout and scream. As a result, everything is behind schedule and there's a lot to do before the winter closes in again and all good little scientists have to be off the continent (the bad ones get to spend the winter). > I hope you will tell us all about it ( that is unless you are testing new > weapons systems for the US defence industry ). I wonder if there are > any Web sites relating to your work or the S. Pole in general you could > point us to. I understand they are developing technology for future space > probes by looking at the hardware that has to cope with conditions where > you are. Which way does the water go down the plughole? We are deploying a new infrared detector onto a 60cm telescope that has been down here a few years. With a 10000 foot plateau and no water vapour in the atmosphere (guess how that happens!), conditions are excellent - better than Mauna Kea (Hawaii at 14000 feet) and even better than Atacama (Chile, 16-18000 feet). It's also easier to work with lots of oxygen even if cold ! The instrument seems to be all working and will go to the telescope in a few days (cross all relevant digits). There are Web sites but I forget the addresses: ask your favourite search engine about CARA (Center for Astrophysical Research in Antarctica). It is indeed widely considered the closest thing to space, but there's not a lot of development of space materials here - they like to send that stuff up in the shuttle these days. No doubt the psychologists have fun with the winter-over staff ! Water is too scarce for baths: it all has to be melted from very cold snow which takes lots of energy, so usage is severely restricted. On the other hand, water goes down as it does everywhere else in the world, depending upon how you fill the bath. It is not true that it swirls different ways in different hemispheres (the effect is not large enough to alter bath water, although it does affect large-scale things, especially hurricanes - the physicist and science educator in me coming out). Nigel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from erebus.mcmurdo.gov by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:23:32 -0700 Received: from aspen.spole.gov ([199.4.250.2]) by erebus.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04487 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:24:56 GMT Received: from aspp1.spole.gov (aspp1.spole.gov [204.89.132.135]) by aspen.spole.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07001 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:24:46 +1300 Received: by aspp1.spole.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1-SP0) id AA00602; Sat, 6 Dec 97 12:24:38 NZD Message-ID: <9712052324.AA00602@aspp1.spole.gov> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:32:46 -0700 Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM Message-ID: <19971206053418.15383.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "egsmy mei" Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: mailing list MADSCI-ANNOUNCE info Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 21:33:54 PST I would like to signoff.Pls leave me out of this . >From owner-madsci-announce@vjc.com Wed Dec 3 19:08:29 1997 >X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Announcements > >Warnings-To: <> >Errors-To: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM >Sender: owner-madsci-announce@VJC.COM >Received: from mrin85.mail.aol.com (mrin85.mx.aol.com) by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) > with SMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 1997 18:39:31 -0700 >Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin85.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) > id UAA06617 for madsci-announce@mad-scientists.org; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 > 20:37:01 -0500 (EST) >Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:37:01 -0500 (EST) >From: AndyRobts@aol.com >Reply-To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM >Message-ID: <971203203701_-892588814@mrin85.mail.aol.com> >To: madsci-announce@mad-scientists.org >Subject: mailing list MADSCI-ANNOUNCE info > >As the person who inserted a pointed stick into this particular ants nest I >feel >its my duty to post this information for those who don't know what they are >sitting >on. > > The International Society of >Mad Scientists >http://www.mad-scientists.org/madsci/ > > >> You have been added to mailing list MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@Mad-Scientists.ORG. >> >> NO ADVERTISING, BLATANTLY COMMERCIAL OR OTHER SPAM PLEASE! >> >> Further administrative requests regarding this list should be sent to >> >> Internet: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG >> MXserver@Mad-Scientists.ORG >> >> The following commands can be handled automatically by >> MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG: >> >> SIGNOFF - to remove yourself from the list >> REVIEW - to get a list of subscribers >> QUERY - to get the status of your entry on the list >> SET NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail >> SET MAIL - to reverse the NOMAIL setting >> SET CONCEAL - to conceal yourself from REVIEW listings >> SET NOCONCEAL - to reverse the CONCEAL setting >> SET NOREPRO - to prevent the list from sending you your own >> postings >> SET REPRO - to reverse the NOREPRO setting >> LIST - to get a list of mailing lists available on this > >> host >> HELP - to receive a help file >> QUIT - to terminate processing (skipping signature, >etc.) >> >> The syntax of these commands for use with the MXserver emulator is: >> >> SIGNOFF MADSCI-ANNOUNCE >> REVIEW MADSCI-ANNOUNCE >> QUERY MADSCI-ANNOUNCE >> SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]MAIL >> SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]CONCEAL >> SET MADSCI-ANNOUNCE [NO]REPRO >> LIST >> HELP >> QUIT >> > >I've received about 14 e-mails from the list on the last 2 days, including >a long message full of info on the 'Life on Titan' question, and a message >from the south pole. I will wait a few days for people who are too >busy to be bothered ( send the message SIGNOFF MADSCI-ANNOUNCE to > MADSCI-ANNOUNCE-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG instead of to me ) >then I shall forward the stuff that didn't get posted to the list ( >madsci-announce@Mad-Scientists.org ) > >Soon we will have constructed a network of knowlege and brain power that >can solve all the world's problems. Or at least had fun trying. > >Andy R > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:34:01 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:33:54 -0700 From: Igor@Mad-Scientists.ORG Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: mad-scientists@VJC.COM CC: Igor@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <009BE6AD.FD2BF9C0.4@VJC.COM> Subject: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE list renamed to MAD-SCIENTISTS Greetings fellow Mad Scientists: For mostly administrative reasons the MADSCI-ANNOUNCE list is being renamed to simply MAD-SCIENTISTS. There is no need for you to do anything about it, your subscription will automatically be moved to the new list. Mail to MADSCI-ANNOUNCE will be forwarded to the new list for a short while, however in the future please send all list messages to: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG Requests for the automatic list processor should be sent to: MAD-SCIENTISTS-REQUEST@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG *NEW* There is now an archive of the messages sent to this list available off the the main web page or directly via ftp at: ftp://ftp.mad-scientists.org/list-archives/mad-scientists/ Your faithful servant Igor --- Here are the updated list instructions for your reference: You have been added to mailing list MAD-SCIENTISTS@Mad-Scientists.ORG. NO ADVERTISING, BLATANTLY COMMERCIAL MESSAGES OR OTHER SPAM PLEASE! Further administrative requests regarding this list should be sent to Internet: MAD-SCIENTISTS-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG The following commands can be handled automatically by MAD-SCIENTISTS-REQUEST@Mad-Scientists.ORG: SIGNOFF - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW - to get a list of subscribers QUERY - to get the status of your entry on the list SET NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MAIL - to reverse the NOMAIL setting SET CONCEAL - to conceal yourself from REVIEW listings SET NOCONCEAL - to reverse the CONCEAL setting SET NOREPRO - to prevent the list from sending you your own postings SET REPRO - to reverse the NOREPRO setting LIST - to get a list of mailing lists available on this host HELP - to receive a help file QUIT - to terminate processing (skipping signature, etc.) The the following alternate commands are also accepted by the list processor at MXserver@Mad-Scientists.ORG: SIGNOFF MAD-SCIENTISTS REVIEW MAD-SCIENTISTS QUERY MAD-SCIENTISTS SET MAD-SCIENTISTS [NO]MAIL SET MAD-SCIENTISTS [NO]CONCEAL SET MAD-SCIENTISTS [NO]REPRO LIST HELP QUIT ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:34:35 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:36:09 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <009BE6AE.4DD2A77A.6@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Re: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE list renamed to MAD-SCIENTISTS - I am away I am at the South Pole until January 1998. I may read my mail erratically. Other contacts: image related inquiries, Suzanne Jacoby (sjacoby@noao.edu) computer accounts, Sue Hayes (shayes@noao.edu) Sun matters, Mike Peralta (mperalta@noao.edu) VMS issues, Matthew Fishburn (mfishburn@noao.edu) Web activities, Jeannette Barnes (jbarnes@noao.edu) Any other computer stuff, Steve Grandi (sgrandi@noao.edu) Personal messages, Yma Sharp (ysharp@noao.edu) I hope that your mail can be handled by one of these people, but if not then I fear you will have to be patient. Thank you. Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:41:47 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 15:43:10 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: <009BE6AF.48E1E4FA.11@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Re: Re: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE list renamed to MAD-SCIENTISTS - I am away - I am away I am at the South Pole until January 1998. I may read my mail erratically. Other contacts: image related inquiries, Suzanne Jacoby (sjacoby@noao.edu) computer accounts, Sue Hayes (shayes@noao.edu) Sun matters, Mike Peralta (mperalta@noao.edu) VMS issues, Matthew Fishburn (mfishburn@noao.edu) Web activities, Jeannette Barnes (jbarnes@noao.edu) Any other computer stuff, Steve Grandi (sgrandi@noao.edu) Personal messages, Yma Sharp (ysharp@noao.edu) I hope that your mail can be handled by one of these people, but if not then I fear you will have to be patient. Thank you. Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 16:03:01 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <7da3d79b.348b2a3f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:59:09 EST To: madsci-announce@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Life on Titan - Some Info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was manually forwarded to the list as promised Subj: Re: Is there life on Titan ? Date: 03/12/97 05:46:19 From: htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott) To: AndyRobts@AOL.COM Andy, just received your question. It's a good one, and thanks for your patience. Is there life on Titan? Maybe. We don't know for sure yet, but there are indications that such a finding is not beyond possibility. These findings include Titan's reddish colour, which many scientists suspect is due to complex organic molecules. This, in conjunction with potential vulcanism and sunlight, may be enough to support life on this frozen moon. Of course, we aren't talking people -- microbes or maybe protozoans at best. Interestingly, Huygens pondered this after he discoverd Titan in 1655. After considering the time it takes for Saturn to orbit the Sun, he felt that the inhabitants of Titan would undoubtedly be very different to us, "having such tedious Winters". What we really need are probes to examine Titan. Fortunately, one is already on its way -- Cassini! Here's some information about Cassini that will be of interest to you, which I have obtained from the JPL mission brochure: "Cassini will carry the Huygens Probe, an instrument package equipped with a parachute, designed to study the atmosphere and surface of Saturn's largest moon, Titan. The probe will provide our first view of Titan's surface, where complex organic chemicals are thought to accumulate, and perform the first direct sampling of its atmospheric chemistry. ........ During the course of Cassini's mission, the orbiter will execute some three dozen close flybys of particular bodies of interest, including more than 30 encounters of Titan. Slightly larger than the planet Mercury, Titan appears to have at least one continent; oceans or lakes of liquid ethane also may exist there. Its organically rich atmosphere may share many characteristics with Earth's early atmosphere. In addition to the Huygens probe studies, the big moon will be examined by an imaging radar instrument that will produce photograph-like representations of the surface beneath Titan's hazy, brownish atmosphere. Other instruments will measure numerous other Titan characteristics, including its temperature, upper atmospheric chemistry, and the satellite's interaction with Saturn's magnetic field." I hope this helps you a little; it's a question lots of people want an answer to, but even with the Huygens probe, its possible that if there is life on Titan, it may not be discovered until a dedicated probe is constructed and sent for that exclusive purpose. The Cassini probe will give us access to knowledge we don't have, that whilst not necessarily determining the existence of life on Titan, will allow us to design probes that will be more effective in such a search. Consider how the Viking lander was of use in designing the subsequent Mars probes. As Carl Sagan said many times, it would be much, much cheaper to scrap the astronaut corps and go mechanical -- we'd be able to launch far more research probes and would learn a lot more, for a whole lot less cash. Alas, Congress doesn't see it that way -- yet. The Cassini Probe will arrive at its destination around July 1, 2004. The mission will take until June 30, 2008. Then there's all the analysis of the research data.... You could be in for a bit of a wait! Check out the Planetary Society's web site -- they're a helpful, happening bunch that have their finger on the pulse of space exploration and research! Until we get a conclusive answer to your question -- some time away, I fear -- why not go down to your local video store in the interim and rent out "DOCTOR WHO : THE INVISIBLE ENEMY"? It's all about an alien that's discovered in the vicinity of Titan, and after it infects the staff on that moon's research base, takes over the Doctor himself, forcing him to seek medical help in the Asteroid belt. It's set around 5000AD, stars Tom Baker as the chap with the long scarf and curly hair, Louise Jameson as the savage huntress Leela, and introduces the the lovable tin dog K-9! I do hope this is some assistance to you. Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 17:47:44 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <2be12aa.348b422c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:41:12 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG CC: htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott) Subject: Re: Life on Titan - Some Info-htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message from Paul Matthew McDermott to AndyRobts@AOL.COM Paul..thank you for all the interesting data we all received in your message to Andy. . Also regarding <<"DOCTOR WHO : THE INVISIBLE ENEMY"? Louise Jameson as the savage huntress Leela, and introduces the the lovable tin dog K-9!>> Often wondered what happened to K-9!!! Thanks Paul ... Sarah...extremely interesting. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:30:06 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: STOUR MOLE Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <55c27d89.348c3cdd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:28:52 EST To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Subject: Re: what have I started ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove me frm the list! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 12:05:43 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <34675B43.1A5ECA3E@visi.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:06:43 -0500 From: Jeff McNew Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: what have I started ?? References: <55c27d89.348c3cdd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO YOU ARE STUCK YOU MUST STAY ON THE LIST FOREVER MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ENJOY. Oh sorry guess I gotta little crazy there. heh STOUR MOLE wrote: > Please remove me frm the list! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 16:07:47 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:37:55 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Re: What is this for? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 08/12/97 03:10:36, Paul writes: > What precisely is the purpose of this newsgroup? I was under the impression > that it was for answering questions relate to science for people who need > the answers. I did this very recently with a girl from Canada needing to > know the ins and outs of nucleosynthesis. Can I expect more of the same? > This seems a lot more fun to me than making up stuff about taking over the > world. > > Paul I suppose it's whatever we all make of it. There should be room for both hard science and 'fun'. There seems to be a mixture of real scientists, interested amateurs and students on the list so we can expect varied contributions. Cheers Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:00:56 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Miranda ee Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <5664abd2.348c89cd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:39:00 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: What is this for...? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 08/12/97 23:31:19 GMT, AndyRobts@AOL.COM (Andy Robts) wrote: << I suppose it's whatever we all make of it. There should be room for both hard science and 'fun'. There seems to be a mixture of real scientists, interested amateurs and students on the list so we can expect varied contributions. Cheers Andy R >> What about world domination, holding the United Nations to ransom and then being stopped by a dashing superhero, for whom we have planned a messy and convoluted death involving killer fish and pencils...? And don't mad scientists make smells or something...? (Mine's Chanel, dahlink). Mirry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:56:04 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:55:55 -0700 From: Vanya Jonathan Cooper Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG CC: Vanya@VJC.COM Message-ID: <009BE78A.FEB612C0.1@VJC.COM> Subject: Re: What is this for? In a message dated 08/12/97 03:10:36, Paul writes: > What precisely is the purpose of this newsgroup? I was under the impression > that it was for answering questions relate to science for people who need > the answers. I did this very recently with a girl from Canada needing to > know the ins and outs of nucleosynthesis. Can I expect more of the same? > This seems a lot more fun to me than making up stuff about taking over the > world. > > Paul There are lots of resources for mad scientists on the net. If you haven't already, you might want to look at http://madsci.wustl.edu/ too. They are very much involved in science education. ..Vanya ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 18:33:25 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <2fc9a149.348c9e7f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:46:03 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: What is this for?AndyRobts@AOL.COM (Andy Robts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-08 18:31:19 EST, you write: > What precisely is the purpose of this newsgroup? Whatever the purpose ... as Mad-Scientists, students and many more people of the community, Andy ... you brought great information to all peoples interested in the unbelievable ... I personally thank you for that question ... gave me time of fun out of my field to relax and have lots of interest and imagination ... Sarah ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:58:34 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:02:50 -0500 (EST) From: dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Flip-over buggies on the moon To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a proposal for a project to unite mad scientists!: The company I work for sells these little plastic toy cars called "flip-over buggies" that run on batteries and have working headlights.. So, I have been wondering if it would be possible to modify these little cars somewhat, put a small camera on them, and perhaps an extended-life battery, launch them out to the dark side of the moon, and take some pictures from the surface. Can this be done, and can it be done cost-effectively? Perhaps using a direct-entry airbag method, such as Mars Pathfinder did? Dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 20:05:04 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:09:23 -0500 (EST) From: dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: what have I started ?? To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Such power!! Muhahahahahahaha!! On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Jeff McNew wrote: > NO YOU ARE STUCK YOU MUST STAY ON THE LIST FOREVER > MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ENJOY. > > Oh sorry guess I gotta little crazy there. heh > > > STOUR MOLE wrote: > > > Please remove me frm the list! > > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 20:09:03 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:13:12 -0500 (EST) From: dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: What is this for?AndyRobts@AOL.COM (Andy Robts) To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Sarah Prof wrote: > In a message dated 97-12-08 18:31:19 EST, you write: > > > > What precisely is the purpose of this newsgroup? > > Whatever the purpose ... as Mad-Scientists, students and many more people of > the community, Andy ... you brought great information to all peoples > interested in the unbelievable ... I personally thank you for that question > ... gave me time of fun out of my field to relax and have lots of interest and > imagination ... Sarah > To make the unbelievable, believable..I think that should be the purpose of this newsgroup! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:45:20 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:44:25 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: What is this for?AndyRobts@AOL.COM (Andy Robts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy ... I work in the areas of poverty and disease ... me thinks (Brit terminology), better than sitting on ice like Sharp ... bloody cold on the posterior, there ... enjoying the possibility of "Planet Life," other than our own mad world. Sarah ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 02:00:09 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <34901BFD.5985@student.paisley.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:59:41 -0800 From: al951966@student.paisley.ac.uk (Alisdair Logan) Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: What is this for...? References: <5664abd2.348c89cd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Miranda ee wrote: > > In a message dated 08/12/97 23:31:19 GMT, AndyRobts@AOL.COM (Andy Robts) > wrote: > > << > I suppose it's whatever we all make of it. There should be room for both hard > science > and 'fun'. There seems to be a mixture of real scientists, interested > amateurs > and > students on the list so we can expect varied contributions. > > Cheers > > Andy R > >> > > What about world domination, holding the United Nations to ransom and then > being stopped by a dashing superhero, for whom we have planned a messy and > convoluted death involving killer fish and pencils...? > > And don't mad scientists make smells or something...? (Mine's Chanel, > dahlink). > > Mirry To Mirry. Totally excellent idea! Though maybe without the superhero bit. World Domination for all, thats what I say! Alisdair Logan, Minister of Truth and Propaganda ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 04:29:47 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 04:31:08 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MADSCI-ANNOUNCE@VJC.COM Message-ID: <009BEA3F.3B14A5E0.2@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Some responses There does seem to be some interest, so here are some more responses. Let me know if most of you could care less. This is quite long ! > ..., are you really at the pole or at some point on Antarctica? We are actually at geographic -90, give or take a kilometer as we walk between the main dome and sleeping areas and the "dark area" where the observatory and other telescope systems stand. The pole marker is placed every year (nowadays using GPS) as the ice drifts over the bedrock and the pole itself precesses slightly. The ice is about 2 miles thick here - compressed snow for about 60 feet down and then blue ice, which is pretty transparent. There is a "symbolic pole", which doesn't move, and is currently about 30 feet from the true pole: it's a crystal marker on a post surrounded by the flags of the 11 original signatories of the Antarctic Treaty (the important one that pledges environmental cleanliness and no military ventures and so on: it's very valuable and should be ratified again soon, except for some nations who wish to exploit minerals here, horrible thought). If you have any political involvement, see about pushing for re-signing ! The biggest camp on the Antarctic continent is at McMurdo, on the edge of the Ross Ice Shelf. It's also the staging post for all US ventures here (we got to walk around in the mud there for a few days before flying here). Being on the coast and being summer, they hover around freezing, which means it's often quite muddy there. The warmest here at the pole is around -10 F which occurs in January, although -15 is the average: the highest recorded I don't have to hand, but is actually positive, somewhere around +8 F. Currently we're around -22F, but the wind-chill is a much more important factor: when it dropped to -30 with no wind it was actually more pleasant walking around outside than warmer with a wind. Typical wind-chill at the moment is around -50 to -60. > What's your accommodation like? Are you perpetually cold? or.. is > it actually warm inside the living quarter? The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station (to give it its proper name) uses a great deal of fuel. Water is obtained using a "rod well", which is a rod stuck in the ice down which they pump hot water. For every gallon pumped in, two come out: currently, we're drinking about 1000 year-old ice and fairly soon they will need to start a new well. The AMANDA project is drilling holes in the ice for about 2km down which they feed their sensors: again, drilling is done with hot water and they use a vast amount of fuel. Buildings are warm, but not too warm. Conservation is a very very hot topic here: showers and laundry are strictly limited. Environmentally, it's one of the cleanest places in the world: everything is very strictly sorted and flown out, including human waste, for processing and treatment, and recycling - the highest percentage of recycling anywhere, currently closing on 80%. Accommodations are primitive: some of the "facilities" are bags in buckets, although others actually have running water, fed by a daily load of snow (and when that runs out, no more until the next day's load). Actual rooms vary: there are some new buildings which are quite pleasant, two to a room, facilities actually in the same building, and real doors. Other summer accommodations are huts with a central corridor and a blanket screening each bed area, and getting up at 4am for a call of nature is no picnic when you have to walk outside (I'm in the more primitive place myself!). Transport is by Hercules LC-130 - the ones with skis on. An amazing 'plane and very well suited to this function. Some small activities use Twin Otters for ferrying small numbers of people to and from field sites. We don't do that since our telescope is fixed to the framework at the end of the building. > Is there a doctor amongst your group ? I was interested in how health issues > are dealt with in such isolation. Yes, there's a station doctor but facilities are limited. Serious cases are flown back to McMurdo, really serious cases are flown to New Zealand (which is the starting point for the whole adventure). This can take days, literally, depending on weather, so it's a very bad idea to get sick here. There is a fairly tough physical, but dental problems have been generally more of a concern. A simple abscess can become life-threatening given the possible delay before treatment. Passing the medical/dental hurdle is a significant relief for anyone trying to work here. Those who stay for the winter (see below) have a more serious check-up and a psychological exam (necessary to prove you're NOT normal). I haven't met the doctor yet, they say he's a nice chap, and he will actually be wintering over, I believe (I'm not certain). > How long will it take to service your telescope? Do you come home then or are > you studying something thro the winter? This is a fairly major upgrade, requiring changes to the secondary mirror and its supports, and to the entire external structure in order to support the new detector system and its control boxes. It's not a simple service. We have between 6 and 8 people working on it for a couple of months, but we hope to have most things working in a week or so (i.e. about four weeks of hard effort). There have been snags, there are some right now, and probably there will be more. However, only one person will be staying with this project through the winter. Winter-over staff cannot leave from February to November and are much crazier than the rest of us, who only stay a few weeks in summer. During the winter, it drops below -100F with a wind-chill down to -180F or so, and it's completely dark (right now the Sun never sets). Because it's so cold here, it's also very very dry: static electricity is a major equipment hazard, and fire is the most dangerous risk. Fire safety is taken very seriously: the winter-over staff attend a full fire school with pits of burning oil and smoke-filled buildings etc. After all, if fire should knock out the power plant in the winter, there'd only be two dozen corpses to greet the first 'plane of the next summer. Fortunately, there are satellites which nod within reach of the pole (which is how I can send this stuff out), and remote observing is becoming more possible. Typically, however, there will be a decided program which will run semi-automatically for several days, generate data to be sent back (we hope over a newer faster satellite link), and then be replaced with a different program. In the infrared we can also observe during the day, so the duty cycle is determined only by weather. The intent is to make this a remote observatory, but I suspect we will always need one person on site for weather and possible repairs. This capability is what makes it so much better than space, where servicing/updating/repairing are basically not on. Pole's location at 10000 feet with no water vapour is what makes it the best infrared site on the planet. That should be more than enough to be going on with. Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 05:37:49 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:42:00 +1000 To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM From: htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott) Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Some responses Nigel, this is fascinating stuff -- I'm almost tempted to say I envy you, with the impending Australian summer! How much longer are you stationed down there? What's your background, and have you been to Antarctica before? Also, for us curious folk, is there any way for us to go and visit the place? Think warm thoughts, Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:11:15 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:12:42 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009BEA55.CCFFD590.15@vms.noao.edu> Subject: another quick comment > this is fascinating stuff -- I'm almost tempted to say I envy you, with the > impending Australian summer! How much longer are you stationed down there? It's already summer here, although it gets warmer in January. I expect to be here until the end of December, myself, although there are, as I mentioned, winter-over staff here already who will be staying at least until next November. Then I go back to the other sort of desert, the hot one, in Tucson, Arizona. > What's your background, and have you been to Antarctica before? Also, for > us curious folk, is there any way for us to go and visit the place? This is my first trip to the Antarctic, and it's all the way to the bottom ! I'm actually a PhD astronomer, although on this project my function is more "computer geek" (I've been told). The instrument we're installing on the telescope here has a fairly complex control system and I'm supposed to a) make it work a bit better, b) interface it with the telescope control, and c) be generally useful. Any excuse for an adventure. The station is run by the US Government, principally the National Science Foundation, for research purposes. If you can get involved with a legitimate project, then it's easy. Also, Antarctic Support Associates is the company that handles most of the logistics for the NSF, and they employ cooks, labourers, etc., etc., and some scientists. There are private companies that will get you here for an enormous fee. They are generally discouraged, because they are not often well organised, and often require some sort of rescue or assistance from the station, which puts station staff at risk, or at least to significant unpleasantness (e.g. you may have heard on the news about the three sky-divers who were killed here last week: station staff got to dig the bodies out from the four feet of snow they buried themselves under - of course, that's not really the company's fault and there are probably some good companies out there - I really don't know, I'm new here !) Ask away ... I have to do some satellite tracking stuff now ... Nigel ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:04:27 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:08:41 +1000 To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM From: htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott) Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: another quick comment Nigel, that body bag detail sounds pretty grisly, and I don't envy you those toilets! I have more questions, and hope you can spend a moment to answer them! What's the diet like down there? What items do you miss most? How is the station powered? Has any thought been given to OTEC (thermal power through the difference in water temperatures at different depths) solar, or wind power? What does ten thousand year old water taste like? What do you do for fun, to amuse yourself? Is there a morale officer, or a poker night or something? What did you do your PhD on? How's the mail service? Once I've finished my PhD, I might see if Ican get work down there -- it sounds like a great experience! No doubt you've taken a lot of snapshots? I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but I'm sure that the other "mad scientists" will be sending you all sorts of queries! Paul PS Have you seen the DOCTOR WHO story, "The Seeds of Doom"? It's got the chap with the curly hair, big smile and scarf in the title role, and is set partially in Antarctica. A reseach team uncovers an ancient pair of pods, actually galactic weeds, with planet-sized danger inside. One of the research team is infected by them (his blood turns to vegetable soup and he goes mad), and eventually the other pod is stolen by a powerful botanist, who has his thugs blow up the base to ensure no witnesses. It's very reminscent of THE THING of course, that's why it's so enjoyable. Having been down to the icy wastes, you probably would find it a bit old hat! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:04:10 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <964d716c.3492bf9e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:02:20 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: another quick comment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My question to Nigel: What kind of wildlife have you observed or found evidence of? If nothing native then what about introduced species that survive at the station. Have a hot toddy Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:33:19 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:34:43 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG Message-ID: <009BEC92.D8E9563A.6@vms.noao.edu> Subject: ... and some more questions > What kind of wildlife have you observed or found evidence of? > If nothing native then what about introduced species that survive ... Baasically, nothing lives here except people, and only with massive support. There are no indigenous species at all, although they did find a microorganism apparently native only 300 miles away. There's no evidence of anything being introduced and surviving, and in fact there are all sorts of precautions against anything being let in which might survive. We did have a bee in the galley the other day, flown in probably from New Zealand, but survival, even surrounded by caring individuals, is unlikely. > What's the diet like down there? What items do you miss most? We have the best food on the continent - steak, shrimp, lasagna, chicken, all sorts of tasty tofu concoctions for the vegetarians - of course, there's quite a lot of frozen food, and the milk is all powdered, but it's pretty darn good. You wouldn't believe the cheesecake they can make ! Breakfast omelettes made to order, soups, chocolate cake ... I'm putting on weight. I haven't missed anything yet except my one big regret about American cuisine, the inability to make a decent cup of tea. I have this solved back in Tucson with a German tea machine, but didn't bring one with me. I know, Brits and their tea ... > How is the station powered? ... any thought ..to OTEC (thermal power through > the difference in water temperatures ... solar, or wind power? The power plant burns a lot of fuel, jet fuel to be precise, because it can be flown in by the Hercules 'planes just by filling their tanks. All the vehicles run on jet fuel too, trucks, tracked vehicles, construction - even the new Mantis crane. I'm not sure what the generators are exactly, but they use the same fuel. We would need a very massive wind tower farm to provide the power needed here, since even in winter the wind rarely exceeds 20 knots (that can be a pretty nasty wind-chill, but it's not really that strong a wind). It's a very large flat plateau here. Solar power - with a six month night ?? Water ? We're on 10000 feet of ice here - no thermal gradients to speak of. They considered burning the burnable waste for power, and actually tried it out at McMurdo, but decided the pollution cost was too high. Of course, nuclear would be the best way to go if it weren't for the terrible and undeserved PR. > What does ten thousand year old water taste like? Unfortunately, since it's processed for all the usual health reasons, it doesn't taste at all special. But it's nice. > What do you do for fun, to amuse yourself? Is there a morale officer, or a > poker night or something? Some people here drink, there are TVs and VCRs and a massive tape collection (no broadcast TV !), and a good library with serious and frivolous. Socially, it's a very friendly place, a very "family feeling". But personally, I have done little but eat, sleep and work: this is a big and taxing project and we have had little time for "fun". Mostly, "fun" is getting to sleep in and, before anyone asks, alone. There's some of that - some people have got married to people they met here, and there are three couples wintering over this season. Among 200, which is the summer population, it's only to be expected: among the winter-over two dozen, it's more monastic. This particular project, by the way, has a strong contribution from the U of New South Wales, who have provided some optics, enclosures and thermal regulation hardware, and should be providing an adaptive secondary (tip-tilt correction, for the connoisseurs) to compensate for the tower shake - you can't stabilize THIS telescope to the bed-rock!. That's due here in January, by which time I hope the instrument will be working and my immediate presence no longer needed (back to the Tucson warmth). > How's the mail service? Irregular, but pretty reliable. For such a short visit I don't expect to get any mail myself, although I really ought to send out some postcards (one aspect of travelling I dislike). One could think of it as military mail, which is about the closest most people might experience. > What did you do your PhD on? Theoretical astrophysics - black holes, structure of the universe, galaxy dynamics, all sorts of hard sums. But I lapsed into observational astronomy. > Have you seen the DOCTOR WHO story, "The Seeds of Doom"? ... I don't have the entire series on tape, due to gaps in the early doctors, but have all of Tom Baker, some worn out (I had to re-acquire the Talons of Weng Chiang after I played it too much). A lovely villain, Mr Chase, and a nice set of thugs. They wouldn't survive in reality - there are some pretty tough characters here, and the men are no wimps either. I'm joking, I'm joking ... We do have a greenhouse, though it doesn't get much compost (hydroponics). Nigel ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:23:21 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:22:43 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Doctor Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/12/97 05:46:19, Paul Matthew McDermott wrote: > Doctor Who As you are obviously a Doctor Who fan I wonder if you know there is a Doctor Who shop just a mile up the road from me, opposite East Ham Tube station. They have a real DALEK in the window. Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:09:36 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <27E43C522316D111B8EE002035759D9C2715@SERVER1> From: James Bonner Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: "'Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG'" Subject: RE: Flip-over buggies on the moon Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:08:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain What a nice project to get our teeth into lets get a project plan to-gother I suggest we start with everyone that is interested e-mailing their capabities and we can structure a plan for this James > -----Original Message----- > From: dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU [SMTP:dwolak@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU] > Sent: 11 December 1997 03:03 > To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.org > Subject: Flip-over buggies on the moon > > Here's a proposal for a project to unite mad scientists!: > > The company I work for sells these little plastic toy cars called > "flip-over buggies" that run on batteries and have working > headlights.. > So, I have been wondering if it would be possible to modify these > little > cars somewhat, put a small camera on them, and perhaps an > extended-life > battery, launch them out to the dark side of the moon, and take some > pictures from the surface. Can this be done, and can it be done > cost-effectively? Perhaps using a direct-entry airbag method, such as > Mars Pathfinder did? > > Dan > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:51:53 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <349705C8.3D46@student.paisley.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:50:48 -0800 From: al951966@student.paisley.ac.uk (Alisdair Logan) Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: humanity is dead! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HUMANITY IS DEAD! Humanity is dying as a race. Why? The answer is easy; innovative science is dead! People are too scared to carry out the experiments that will further the race because they are afraid to get hurt. We are trapped on this little rock that we call home and we dont even know it! How many people died in the attempts to land on the moon? I dont mean just astronauts, but scientists, technicians and test-pilots aswell. People are afraid to try, because of what may happen, but look at what can be gained. For years science fiction authors have wrote about colonising other planets. This will never happen unless people are prepared to risk there lives in the attempt. And as for the resources needed. We have plenty. Surely the resources used would easily be recouped from any other planets in the solar system that are settled. People have to stop thinking about themselves and put the need of the race ahead of themselves. If people die, did they not undertake the attempt in full knowledge of the risks involved? We are scientists, not idiots! To suggest that we would not be aware of the danger is ridiculous. Progression into the solar system and beyond is the logical next step. If it were not meant to happen, if we were meant to live on this same planet until the end of time, why would the Universe be there? Govornments must put aside petty differences, and work together on this if our race is to survive the next millenium. Alisdair Logan University of Paisley, Scotland. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:53:09 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <30fc190c.3496a418@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:57 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Toy Buggies on the moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi If you have read my mad-sci member description, you will know that I am currently working on shrinking people. It's mostly theoretical work at the moment, but I only need to make a small technological breakthrough. Then I will be able to use recursion to acheive very small sizes, opening up the possibility of supplying a miniature crew for the proposed expedition. The advantages of having tiny men and women aboard the toy buggies are obvious and far outweigh the problems of life support. I just hope there is enough time available, but if not , go ahead with the unmanned missions anyway . The temperature has dropped to +2 C here and it is beginning to sleet so I'm off to sunny Portugal for the holidays. I wish you all a happy Yuletide and a successfull new year. Andy R PS IGOR - don't forget to water the brains. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:11:03 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:15:14 +1000 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG From: htpmcder@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Paul Matthew McDermott) Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Doctor Who? Andy, thanks for the tipoff about the Dalek in your nearby shop window. Should I be strolling through your town perhaps I will seek it out! When it comes to the Davros of the real world though, I don't think you can go past Edward Teller. His little creations are far more threatening to the life on Earth than Terry Nation's pepper pots ever can be. Enjoy Portugal and your holiday break! Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:43:11 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <3ac0ef9b.34970e3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:26:47 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy R: <> Check out "Gullivers' Travels." Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? As for watering of brains ... send them to the rain forests ... for a weekend each month. Here in a semi tropical environment ... flying to UK ... for a cool Christmas. Seasons greetings to everyone... SarahProf The temperature has dropped to +2 C here and it is beginning to sleet so I'm off to sunny Portugal for the holidays. I wish you all a happy Yuletide and a successfull new year. PS IGOR - don't forget to water the brains. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from relay08.mail.aol.com (relay08.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.8]) by air09.mail.aol.com (v37.2) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:53:10 -0500 Received: from VJC.COM (vjc.com [198.182.121.3]) by relay08.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id KAA11176; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:55:02 -0500 (EST) X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:53:05 -0700 From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <30fc190c.3496a418@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:57 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Toy Buggies on the moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:38:27 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: <3ac0ef9b.34970e3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:26:47 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy R: <> Check out "Gullivers' Travels." Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? As for watering of brains ... send them to the rain forests ... for a weekend each month. Here in a semi tropical environment ... flying to UK ... for a cool Christmas. Seasons greetings to everyone... SarahProf The temperature has dropped to +2 C here and it is beginning to sleet so I'm off to sunny Portugal for the holidays. I wish you all a happy Yuletide and a successfull new year. PS IGOR - don't forget to water the brains. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from relay08.mail.aol.com (relay08.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.8]) by air09.mail.aol.com (v37.2) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:53:10 -0500 Received: from VJC.COM (vjc.com [198.182.121.3]) by relay08.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id KAA11176; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:55:02 -0500 (EST) X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:53:05 -0700 From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <30fc190c.3496a418@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:57 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Toy Buggies on the moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 03:01:25 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: <3ac0ef9b.34970e3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:26:47 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy R: <> Check out "Gullivers' Travels." Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? As for watering of brains ... send them to the rain forests ... for a weekend each month. Here in a semi tropical environment ... flying to UK ... for a cool Christmas. Seasons greetings to everyone... SarahProf The temperature has dropped to +2 C here and it is beginning to sleet so I'm off to sunny Portugal for the holidays. I wish you all a happy Yuletide and a successfull new year. PS IGOR - don't forget to water the brains. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from relay08.mail.aol.com (relay08.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.8]) by air09.mail.aol.com (v37.2) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:53:10 -0500 Received: from VJC.COM (vjc.com [198.182.121.3]) by relay08.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id KAA11176; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:55:02 -0500 (EST) X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:53:05 -0700 From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <30fc190c.3496a418@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:57 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Toy Buggies on the moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 05:07:45 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: <3ac0ef9b.34970e3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:26:47 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy R: <> Check out "Gullivers' Travels." Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? As for watering of brains ... send them to the rain forests ... for a weekend each month. Here in a semi tropical environment ... flying to UK ... for a cool Christmas. Seasons greetings to everyone... SarahProf The temperature has dropped to +2 C here and it is beginning to sleet so I'm off to sunny Portugal for the holidays. I wish you all a happy Yuletide and a successfull new year. PS IGOR - don't forget to water the brains. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from relay08.mail.aol.com (relay08.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.8]) by air09.mail.aol.com (v37.2) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:53:10 -0500 Received: from VJC.COM (vjc.com [198.182.121.3]) by relay08.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id KAA11176; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:55:02 -0500 (EST) X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:53:05 -0700 From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <30fc190c.3496a418@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:57 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Toy Buggies on the moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:10:53 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:05:52 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 17/12/97 12:33:49, sarahprof writes: > Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? No, it looks like I'm going to have to go for the molecular. Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:01:58 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:05:52 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 17/12/97 12:33:49, sarahprof writes: > Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? No, it looks like I'm going to have to go for the molecular. Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:40:22 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:40:55 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009BEE71.7B4B1186.15@vms.noao.edu> Subject: White Christmas ? Something of an absurd idea, since it's always white here at the pole. The round the world race is scheduled, with special exclusive T-shirt (you have to go around the pole marker, on the aircraft taxiway, three times, about 2.7 miles). Our instrument is working, we had first light, and to punish us for the hubris of success, the gods have made it cloudy ever since. Stay mad: it's the only sane reaction to an insane world (and remember which side of the insane asylum walls you are - vide Douglas Adams). Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:02:12 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:05:52 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 17/12/97 12:33:49, sarahprof writes: > Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? No, it looks like I'm going to have to go for the molecular. Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 02:37:14 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:40:55 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009BEE71.7B4B1186.15@vms.noao.edu> Subject: White Christmas ? Something of an absurd idea, since it's always white here at the pole. The round the world race is scheduled, with special exclusive T-shirt (you have to go around the pole marker, on the aircraft taxiway, three times, about 2.7 miles). Our instrument is working, we had first light, and to punish us for the hubris of success, the gods have made it cloudy ever since. Stay mad: it's the only sane reaction to an insane world (and remember which side of the insane asylum walls you are - vide Douglas Adams). Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:02:31 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Andy Robts Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:05:52 EST To: mad-scientists@Mad-Scientists.org Subject: Re: Toy Buggies & "Tiny Tots " crews. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 17/12/97 12:33:49, sarahprof writes: > Question brain size ...by anamorphosis or phylogenesis? No, it looks like I'm going to have to go for the molecular. Andy R ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:02:37 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:40:55 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009BEE71.7B4B1186.15@vms.noao.edu> Subject: White Christmas ? Something of an absurd idea, since it's always white here at the pole. The round the world race is scheduled, with special exclusive T-shirt (you have to go around the pole marker, on the aircraft taxiway, three times, about 2.7 miles). Our instrument is working, we had first light, and to punish us for the hubris of success, the gods have made it cloudy ever since. Stay mad: it's the only sane reaction to an insane world (and remember which side of the insane asylum walls you are - vide Douglas Adams). Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 05:01:45 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:40:55 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@MAD-SCIENTISTS.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009BEE71.7B4B1186.15@vms.noao.edu> Subject: White Christmas ? Something of an absurd idea, since it's always white here at the pole. The round the world race is scheduled, with special exclusive T-shirt (you have to go around the pole marker, on the aircraft taxiway, three times, about 2.7 miles). Our instrument is working, we had first light, and to punish us for the hubris of success, the gods have made it cloudy ever since. Stay mad: it's the only sane reaction to an insane world (and remember which side of the insane asylum walls you are - vide Douglas Adams). Nigel Sharp ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:02:35 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <2e212149.34a1db24@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:03:45 EST To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM Subject: Re: White Christmas ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Nigel Sharp: Regarding following comments: <> Your are most profound Nigel. I have had the opportunity to share your comments through Mad- Scientists...Privilege to know you ... Nigel ... Whats for Christmas Day Lunch? Action on Mad-Scientists@VJC.Com is zero right now! ...The wisdom of Insanity be with you, Sarah. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:07:59 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 12:09:10 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Action on Mad-Scientists@VJC.Com is zero right now! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good to get your message: But you are in error MSM_SO! We had action ... Thank you for your action and all other participating MSM staff. Truly appreciated ... have a wondorous Season? The wisdom of Insanity also be with you ... Phrase thanks to Nigel Sharp! c(_)...Cheers ... Sarah. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:22:30 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 20:21:32 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Having Problems Reaching Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to reach you ... Please advise of problems. SarahProf ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:20:01 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: Sarah Prof Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Message-ID: <26f0e206.34a98fd8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:20:37 EST To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Having Problems Reaching Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ever faithful Igor ... forget last e-mail ...tonight connected with no problem. Happy and insanely wonderous 1998 to all at Mad-Scientists and all ponderous members... Sarah Prof ... glowing with early celebrations ...c(_) Earl Grey, of course!