Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:05:19 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <20001018190419.18125.qmail@web4402.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hastings Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: New Research! To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fix it, Fix it, Fix it. Any body want to buy a sub complete w/ crew? --- "Gene V." wrote: > Jerry! > > I do thank you for that update. Since I have a cold > fusion > reactor installed near the central air conditioning > unit, this > could prove to be critical at some point in the > future. > > Thanks again. > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Jerry wrote: > > > Reactor failures can be hazerdous to your health! > > > > > > The latest studies indicate that 100% of all > people within 5 feet of a nuclear meltdown are > unable to live healthy, normal lives. In fact it has > been shown that they will cease to live period. It > is recommended that should you be near a reactor > going critical to GET YOUR A** OUT OF THERE. > > > > This has been a public service announcement from > the Society for the Ethical Treatment of Mad > Scientists. > > > > Mr. Gene Valido > Mad Scientist for > The Furby Military Academies > http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:17:43 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:14:43 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009F1C85.7623C956.9@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Re: New Research! Is it a yellow submarine ? Or only for sub-scribers ? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:28:51 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gene V." Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: New Research! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does it have Moose and Squirrel aboard? On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Don Hastings wrote: > Fix it, Fix it, Fix it. Any body want to buy a sub > complete w/ crew? > --- "Gene V." wrote: > > Jerry! > > > > I do thank you for that update. Since I have a cold > > fusion > > reactor installed near the central air conditioning > > unit, this > > could prove to be critical at some point in the > > future. > > > > Thanks again. > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Jerry wrote: > > > > > Reactor failures can be hazerdous to your health! > > > > > > > > > The latest studies indicate that 100% of all > > people within 5 feet of a nuclear meltdown are > > unable to live healthy, normal lives. In fact it has > > been shown that they will cease to live period. It > > is recommended that should you be near a reactor > > going critical to GET YOUR A** OUT OF THERE. > > > > > > This has been a public service announcement from > > the Society for the Ethical Treatment of Mad > > Scientists. > > > > > > > Mr. Gene Valido > > Mad Scientist for > > The Furby Military Academies > > http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > Mr. Gene Valido Mad Scientist for The Furby Military Academies http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:41:48 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gene V." Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM CC: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG, sharp@noao.edu Subject: Re: New Research! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can it be Sub-leased?? On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nigel Sharp wrote: > Is it a yellow submarine ? Or only for sub-scribers ? > Mr. Gene Valido Mad Scientist for The Furby Military Academies http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:42:05 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gene V." Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM CC: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG, sharp@noao.edu Subject: Re: New Research! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can it be Sub-leased?? On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nigel Sharp wrote: > Is it a yellow submarine ? Or only for sub-scribers ? > Mr. Gene Valido Mad Scientist for The Furby Military Academies http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:15:46 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <031001c0397a$7033a500$99fb4dcf@compaq> From: "Jerry" Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Subject: Re: New Research! Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:12:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's probably Sub-standard. -----Original Message----- From: Gene V. >Can it be Sub-leased?? >On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nigel Sharp wrote: > >> Is it a yellow submarine ? Or only for sub-scribers ? >> > >Mr. Gene Valido >Mad Scientist for >The Furby Military Academies >http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:06:04 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:05:02 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009F1CCF.8B7DDD56.1@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Re: New Research! >Does it have Moose and Squirrel aboard? Sshhh Boris ... we just make look like Fred ... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:21:07 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:05:47 MST From: Nigel Sharp Reply-To: MAD-SCIENTISTS@VJC.COM To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG CC: sharp@noao.edu Message-ID: <009F1CCF.A6B04C26.7@vms.noao.edu> Subject: Re: New Research! Sub-standard ?! Sub-leased ?!! Surely not - in this forum it must and can only be Sub-lime ... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:38:38 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <003001c03be1$f1af1ec0$0400a8c0@p3800> From: "I. W. H. MacLeod" Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: "Mad Scientists" Subject: Warning Labels Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:38:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C03BB8.08728CC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C03BB8.08728CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warning Labels Mandated by 20th Century Physics As Mad Scientists, we should applaud the recent trend towards = legislation that requires the prominent placing of warnings on products = that present hazards to the general public, as they are an ignorant and = uninformed group. Yet, we must also offer the cautionary thought that = such warnings, however well-intentioned, merely scratch the surface of = what is really necessary in this important area. This is especially = true in light of the findings of 20th century physics. We are therefore proposing that, as responsible professionals and = science enthusiasts, we join together in an intensive push for new laws = that will mandate the conspicuous placement of suitably informative = warnings on the packaging of every product in every category offered for = sale. Our suggested list of required warnings follows. WARNING This Product Warps Space and Time in Its Vicinity. WARNING This Product Attracts Every Other Piece of Matter in the Universe, = Including the Products of Other Manufacturers, with a Force Proportional = to the Product of the Masses and Inversely Proportional to the Distance = Between Them. CAUTION The Mass of This Product Contains the Energy Equivalent of 85 Million = Tons of TNT per Net Ounce of Weight. HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE This Product Contains Minute Electrically Charged Particles Moving at = Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred Million Miles per Hour. CONSUMER NOTICE Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It Is Impossible for the = Consumer to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely Where This Product = Is and How Fast It Is Moving. ADVISORY There is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That, Through a Process = Known as "Tunneling," This Product May Spontaneously Disappear from Its = Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the Universe, = Including Your Neighbor's Domicile. The Manufacturer Will Not Be = Responsible for Any Damages or Inconvenience That May Result. READ THIS BEFORE OPENING PACKAGE According to Certain Suggested Versions of a Grand Unified Theory, the = Primary Particles Constituting This Product May Decay to Nothingness = Within the Next Four Hundred Million Years. THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in = Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW Any Use of This Product, In Any Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the = Amount of Disorder in the Universe. Although No Liability is Implied = Herein, the Consumer Is Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to = the Heat Death of the Universe. NOTE The Most Fundamental Particles in This Product Are Held Together by a = "Gluing" Force About Which Little Is Currently Known and Whose Adhesive = Power Can Therefore Not Be Permanently Guaranteed. ATTENTION Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents Found Hereon, the Consumer = Is Advised That, in Actuality, This Product Consists of 99.9999999999% = Empty Space. NEW GRAND UNIFIED THEORY DISCLAIMER The Manufacturer May Technically Be Entitled To Claim That This Product = Is Ten-Dimensional. However, the Consumer Is Reminded That This Confers = No Legal Rights Above and Beyond Those Applicable to Three-Dimensional = Objects, Since the Seven New Dimensions Are "Rolled Up" Into Such a = Small "Area" That They Cannot Be Detected. PLEASE NOTE Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not = Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist = Only in a Vague and Undetermined State. COMPONENT EQUIVALENCY NOTICE The Subatomic Particles (Electrons, Protons, etc.) Comprising This = Product Are Exactly the Same in Every Measurable Respect as Those Used = in the Products of Other Manufacturers, and No Claim to the Contrary May = Legitimately Be Expressed or Implied. HEALTH WARNING Care Should Be Taken When Lifting This Product, Since Its Mass, and Thus = Its Weight, Is Dependent on Its Velocity Relative to the User. IMPORTANT NOTICE TO PURCHASERS The Entire Physical Universe, Including This Product, May One Day = Collapse Back into an Infinitesimally Small Space. Should Another = Universe Subsequently Reemerge, the Existence of This Product in That = Universe Cannot Be Guaranteed. Submitted for your review by Ian MacLeod ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C03BB8.08728CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Warning Labels = Mandated by 20th=20 Century Physics

As Mad Scientists, we should applaud the recent trend towards=20 legislation that requires the prominent placing of warnings on products = that=20 present hazards to the general public, as they are an ignorant = and=20 uninformed group. Yet, we must also offer the cautionary thought that = such=20 warnings, however well-intentioned, merely scratch the surface of what = is really=20 necessary in this important area.  This is especially true in light = of the=20 findings of 20th century physics.
We are therefore proposing that, as responsible professionals and = science=20 enthusiasts, we join together in an intensive push for new laws that = will=20 mandate the conspicuous placement of suitably informative warnings on = the=20 packaging of every product in every category offered for sale. = Our
suggested=20 list of required warnings follows.

WARNING
This Product Warps Space and Time in Its = Vicinity.

WARNING
This Product Attracts Every Other Piece of Matter in = the=20 Universe, Including the Products of Other Manufacturers, with a Force=20 Proportional to the Product of the Masses and Inversely Proportional to = the=20 Distance Between Them.

CAUTION
The Mass of This Product Contains the Energy = Equivalent of=20 85 Million Tons of TNT per Net Ounce of Weight.

HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE
This Product Contains Minute = Electrically=20 Charged Particles Moving at Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred Million = Miles=20 per Hour.

CONSUMER NOTICE
Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It = Is=20 Impossible for the Consumer to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely = Where=20 This Product Is and How Fast It Is Moving.

ADVISORY
There is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance = That,=20 Through a Process Known as "Tunneling," This Product May Spontaneously = Disappear=20 from Its Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the = Universe,=20 Including Your Neighbor's Domicile. The Manufacturer Will Not Be = Responsible for=20 Any Damages or Inconvenience That May Result.

READ THIS BEFORE OPENING PACKAGE
According to Certain = Suggested=20 Versions of a Grand Unified Theory, the Primary Particles Constituting = This=20 Product May Decay to Nothingness Within the Next Four Hundred Million=20 Years.

THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT
In the Unlikely Event That = This=20 Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic = Explosion Will=20 Result.

PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW
Any Use of This Product, In = Any=20 Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount of Disorder in the Universe. = Although No Liability is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is Warned That = This=20 Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death of the Universe.

NOTE
The Most Fundamental Particles in This Product Are Held = Together by a "Gluing" Force About Which Little Is Currently Known and = Whose=20 Adhesive Power Can Therefore Not Be Permanently Guaranteed.

ATTENTION
Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents = Found=20 Hereon, the Consumer Is Advised That, in Actuality, This Product = Consists of=20 99.9999999999% Empty Space.

NEW GRAND UNIFIED THEORY DISCLAIMER
The Manufacturer May = Technically=20 Be Entitled To Claim That This Product Is Ten-Dimensional. However, the = Consumer=20 Is Reminded That This Confers No Legal Rights Above and Beyond Those = Applicable=20 to Three-Dimensional Objects, Since the Seven New Dimensions Are "Rolled = Up"=20 Into Such a Small "Area" That They Cannot Be Detected.

PLEASE NOTE
Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not = Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist = Only in a=20 Vague and Undetermined State.

COMPONENT EQUIVALENCY NOTICE
The Subatomic Particles = (Electrons,=20 Protons, etc.) Comprising This Product Are Exactly the Same in Every = Measurable=20 Respect as Those Used in the Products of Other Manufacturers, and No = Claim to=20 the Contrary May Legitimately Be Expressed or Implied.

HEALTH WARNING
Care Should Be Taken When Lifting This = Product, Since=20 Its Mass, and Thus Its Weight, Is Dependent on Its Velocity Relative to = the=20 User.

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO PURCHASERS
The Entire Physical Universe, = Including This Product, May One Day Collapse Back into an = Infinitesimally Small=20 Space. Should Another Universe Subsequently Reemerge, the Existence of = This=20 Product in That Universe Cannot Be Guaranteed.
Submitted for your review by Ian=20 MacLeod
 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C03BB8.08728CC0-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:41:03 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 06:39:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gene V." Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad Scientists Subject: Re: Warning Labels Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Great Idea! I'm printing some up today! Mr. Gene Valido Mad Scientist for The Furby Military Academies http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:23:01 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM From: "Vladek Rohoza" Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Warning Labels Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 01:21:58 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: very good >From: "I. W. H. MacLeod" >Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG >To: "Mad Scientists" >Subject: Warning Labels >Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:38:36 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.104.16.163] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBBBBBCDE00CC40042A22D16810A360CF0; Sat Oct 21 21:49:37 2000 >Received: by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SITE; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:48:02 >-0700 >Received: by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SITE; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:38:30 >-0700 >Received: from hermes.tconl.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Sat, 21 >Oct 2000 21:38:22 -0700 >Received: from p3800 ([10.200.5.168]) by hermes.tconl.com >(8.11.0/TeleChoice) with ESMTP id e9M4bT226708 for >; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:37:30 >-0500 >From owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sat Oct 21 21:53:27 2000 >X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists > >Warnings-To: <> >Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM >Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM >Message-ID: <003001c03be1$f1af1ec0$0400a8c0@p3800> > >Warning Labels Mandated by 20th Century Physics > >As Mad Scientists, we should applaud the recent trend towards legislation >that requires the prominent placing of warnings on products that present >hazards to the general public, as they are an ignorant and uninformed >group. Yet, we must also offer the cautionary thought that such warnings, >however well-intentioned, merely scratch the surface of what is really >necessary in this important area. This is especially true in light of the >findings of 20th century physics. > >We are therefore proposing that, as responsible professionals and science >enthusiasts, we join together in an intensive push for new laws that will >mandate the conspicuous placement of suitably informative warnings on the >packaging of every product in every category offered for sale. Our >suggested list of required warnings follows. > >WARNING >This Product Warps Space and Time in Its Vicinity. > >WARNING >This Product Attracts Every Other Piece of Matter in the Universe, >Including the Products of Other Manufacturers, with a Force Proportional to >the Product of the Masses and Inversely Proportional to the Distance >Between Them. > >CAUTION >The Mass of This Product Contains the Energy Equivalent of 85 Million Tons >of TNT per Net Ounce of Weight. > >HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE >This Product Contains Minute Electrically Charged Particles Moving at >Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred Million Miles per Hour. > >CONSUMER NOTICE >Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It Is Impossible for the Consumer >to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely Where This Product Is and How >Fast It Is Moving. > >ADVISORY >There is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That, Through a Process >Known as "Tunneling," This Product May Spontaneously Disappear from Its >Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the Universe, >Including Your Neighbor's Domicile. The Manufacturer Will Not Be >Responsible for Any Damages or Inconvenience That May Result. > >READ THIS BEFORE OPENING PACKAGE >According to Certain Suggested Versions of a Grand Unified Theory, the >Primary Particles Constituting This Product May Decay to Nothingness Within >the Next Four Hundred Million Years. > >THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT >In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in >Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. > >PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW >Any Use of This Product, In Any Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount >of Disorder in the Universe. Although No Liability is Implied Herein, the >Consumer Is Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death >of the Universe. > >NOTE >The Most Fundamental Particles in This Product Are Held Together by a >"Gluing" Force About Which Little Is Currently Known and Whose Adhesive >Power Can Therefore Not Be Permanently Guaranteed. > >ATTENTION >Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents Found Hereon, the Consumer Is >Advised That, in Actuality, This Product Consists of 99.9999999999% Empty >Space. > >NEW GRAND UNIFIED THEORY DISCLAIMER >The Manufacturer May Technically Be Entitled To Claim That This Product Is >Ten-Dimensional. However, the Consumer Is Reminded That This Confers No >Legal Rights Above and Beyond Those Applicable to Three-Dimensional >Objects, Since the Seven New Dimensions Are "Rolled Up" Into Such a Small >"Area" That They Cannot Be Detected. > >PLEASE NOTE >Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not >Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only >in a Vague and Undetermined State. > >COMPONENT EQUIVALENCY NOTICE >The Subatomic Particles (Electrons, Protons, etc.) Comprising This Product >Are Exactly the Same in Every Measurable Respect as Those Used in the >Products of Other Manufacturers, and No Claim to the Contrary May >Legitimately Be Expressed or Implied. > >HEALTH WARNING >Care Should Be Taken When Lifting This Product, Since Its Mass, and Thus >Its Weight, Is Dependent on Its Velocity Relative to the User. > >IMPORTANT NOTICE TO PURCHASERS >The Entire Physical Universe, Including This Product, May One Day Collapse >Back into an Infinitesimally Small Space. Should Another Universe >Subsequently Reemerge, the Existence of This Product in That Universe >Cannot Be Guaranteed. > >Submitted for your review by Ian MacLeod > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:56:26 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <386737730.972276920384.JavaMail.root@web349-mc> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonas Cicenas Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, this is abstract from PubMed, don't you think these guys are like us?...: Alcohol 1985 Sep-Oct;2(5):637-40 Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens. Galizio M, Woodard RL, Keith J The present study used the aggressive display of Betta splendens in response to a mirror as an index of the effects of ethanol and the opiate antagonist, naltrexone. Naltrexone produces an opiate receptor blockade and thus provided a test of the hypothesis that ethanol effects on aggression are mediated by the opioid system. Eighty fish were randomly assigned to one of eight groups in a 4 X 2 factorial design with Ethanol (0, 0.25, 0.50, and 0.75 g%) and Naltrexone (0 and 5 mg/l) as the main factors. The 0.75 g% dose of ethanol reliably suppressed aggressive display as measured by number of gill show responses, but lower doses had no effect or tended to increase aggressive display. At the same time, all doses of ethanol increased arousal in the fish as measured by airgulping. Naltrexone alone did not have effects on aggression or arousal, and did not interact with ethanol on either measure. Thus the results did not support the ethanol-opioid common-link hypothesis. PMID: 4063057, UI: 86050895 ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:12:21 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: From: docfarmer@riyadbank.com.sa Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: RE: Warning Labels Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:48:19 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C03CAC.CF2565F0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03CAC.CF2565F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings! I've thought of a few more. Enjoy! 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EXTREME CAUTION This container holds anti-hydrogen in a vacuum-sealed magnetic containment storage unit. Do not shake. Keep away from any computer equipment which uses magnetic media. Do not take internally. Keep out of reach of children. WARNING Contains live strains of Ebola virus. Wear special bio-hazard suits when handling. Apply contents directly to Lawyers. Doc Farmer Policy Development Advisor Official Monster Raving Loony Party, UK -----Original Message----- From: Vladek Rohoza [mailto:vladek@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 23 October 2000 04:22 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: Warning Labels very good >From: "I. W. H. MacLeod" >Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG >To: "Mad Scientists" >Subject: Warning Labels >Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:38:36 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.104.16.163] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBBBBBCDE00CC40042A22D16810A360CF0; Sat Oct 21 21:49:37 2000 >Received: by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SITE; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:48:02 >-0700 >Received: by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SITE; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:38:30 >-0700 >Received: from hermes.tconl.com by VJC.COM (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Sat, 21 >Oct 2000 21:38:22 -0700 >Received: from p3800 ([10.200.5.168]) by hermes.tconl.com >(8.11.0/TeleChoice) with ESMTP id e9M4bT226708 for >; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:37:30 >-0500 >From owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Sat Oct 21 21:53:27 2000 >X-ListName: International Society of Mad Scientists > >Warnings-To: <> >Errors-To: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM >Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM >Message-ID: <003001c03be1$f1af1ec0$0400a8c0@p3800> > >Warning Labels Mandated by 20th Century Physics > >As Mad Scientists, we should applaud the recent trend towards legislation >that requires the prominent placing of warnings on products that present >hazards to the general public, as they are an ignorant and uninformed >group. Yet, we must also offer the cautionary thought that such warnings, >however well-intentioned, merely scratch the surface of what is really >necessary in this important area. This is especially true in light of the >findings of 20th century physics. > >We are therefore proposing that, as responsible professionals and science >enthusiasts, we join together in an intensive push for new laws that will >mandate the conspicuous placement of suitably informative warnings on the >packaging of every product in every category offered for sale. Our >suggested list of required warnings follows. > >WARNING >This Product Warps Space and Time in Its Vicinity. > >WARNING >This Product Attracts Every Other Piece of Matter in the Universe, >Including the Products of Other Manufacturers, with a Force Proportional to >the Product of the Masses and Inversely Proportional to the Distance >Between Them. > >CAUTION >The Mass of This Product Contains the Energy Equivalent of 85 Million Tons >of TNT per Net Ounce of Weight. > >HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE >This Product Contains Minute Electrically Charged Particles Moving at >Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred Million Miles per Hour. > >CONSUMER NOTICE >Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It Is Impossible for the Consumer >to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely Where This Product Is and How >Fast It Is Moving. > >ADVISORY >There is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That, Through a Process >Known as "Tunneling," This Product May Spontaneously Disappear from Its >Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the Universe, >Including Your Neighbor's Domicile. The Manufacturer Will Not Be >Responsible for Any Damages or Inconvenience That May Result. > >READ THIS BEFORE OPENING PACKAGE >According to Certain Suggested Versions of a Grand Unified Theory, the >Primary Particles Constituting This Product May Decay to Nothingness Within >the Next Four Hundred Million Years. > >THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT >In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in >Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. > >PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW >Any Use of This Product, In Any Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount >of Disorder in the Universe. Although No Liability is Implied Herein, the >Consumer Is Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death >of the Universe. > >NOTE >The Most Fundamental Particles in This Product Are Held Together by a >"Gluing" Force About Which Little Is Currently Known and Whose Adhesive >Power Can Therefore Not Be Permanently Guaranteed. > >ATTENTION >Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents Found Hereon, the Consumer Is >Advised That, in Actuality, This Product Consists of 99.9999999999% Empty >Space. > >NEW GRAND UNIFIED THEORY DISCLAIMER >The Manufacturer May Technically Be Entitled To Claim That This Product Is >Ten-Dimensional. 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Should Another Universe >Subsequently Reemerge, the Existence of This Product in That Universe >Cannot Be Guaranteed. > >Submitted for your review by Ian MacLeod > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. *************************************************************************** * The information transmitted in this e-Mail, and any files transmitted * * with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the * * individual(s) to whom it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, * * dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this * * information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) * * is prohibited. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of * * the author, and do not necessarily represent those of Riyad Bank. 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>Warning Labels Mandated by 20th Century Physics
>
>As Mad Scientists, we should applaud the recent tren= d towards legislation
>that requires the prominent placing of warnings on p= roducts that present
>hazards to the general public, as they are an ignora= nt and uninformed
>group. Yet, we must also offer the cautionary though= t that such warnings,
>however well-intentioned, merely scratch the surface= of what is really
>necessary in this important area.  This is espe= cially true in light of the
>findings of 20th century physics.
>
>We are therefore proposing that, as responsible prof= essionals and science
>enthusiasts, we join together in an intensive push f= or new laws that will
>mandate the conspicuous placement of suitably inform= ative warnings on the
>packaging of every product in every category offered= for sale. Our
>suggested list of required warnings follows.
>
>WARNING
>This Product Warps Space and Time in Its Vicinity.
>
>WARNING
>This Product Attracts Every Other Piece of Matter in= the Universe,
>Including the Products of Other Manufacturers, with = a Force Proportional to
>the Product of the Masses and Inversely Proportional= to the Distance
>Between Them.
>
>CAUTION
>The Mass of This Product Contains the Energy Equival= ent of 85 Million Tons
>of TNT per Net Ounce of Weight.
>
>HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE
>This Product Contains Minute Electrically Charged Pa= rticles Moving at
>Velocities in Excess of Five Hundred Million Miles p= er Hour.
>
>CONSUMER NOTICE
>Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It= Is Impossible for the Consumer
>to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely Where Th= is Product Is and How
>Fast It Is Moving.
>
>ADVISORY
>There is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That,= Through a Process
>Known as "Tunneling," This Product May Spo= ntaneously Disappear from Its
>Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in= the Universe,
>Including Your Neighbor's Domicile. The Manufacturer= Will Not Be
>Responsible for Any Damages or Inconvenience That Ma= y Result.
>
>READ THIS BEFORE OPENING PACKAGE
>According to Certain Suggested Versions of a Grand U= nified Theory, the
>Primary Particles Constituting This Product May Deca= y to Nothingness Within
>the Next Four Hundred Million Years.
>
>THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT
>In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should C= ontact Antimatter in
>Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result.
>
>PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW
>Any Use of This Product, In Any Manner Whatsoever, W= ill Increase the Amount
>of Disorder in the Universe. Although No Liability i= s Implied Herein, the
>Consumer Is Warned That This Process Will Ultimately= Lead to the Heat Death
>of the Universe.
>
>NOTE
>The Most Fundamental Particles in This Product Are H= eld Together by a
>"Gluing" Force About Which Little Is Curre= ntly Known and Whose Adhesive
>Power Can Therefore Not Be Permanently Guaranteed.
>
>ATTENTION
>Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents Found = Hereon, the Consumer Is
>Advised That, in Actuality, This Product Consists of= 99.9999999999% Empty
>Space.
>
>NEW GRAND UNIFIED THEORY DISCLAIMER
>The Manufacturer May Technically Be Entitled To Clai= m That This Product Is
>Ten-Dimensional. However, the Consumer Is Reminded T= hat This Confers No
>Legal Rights Above and Beyond Those Applicable to Th= ree-Dimensional
>Objects, Since the Seven New Dimensions Are "Ro= lled Up" Into Such a Small
>"Area" That They Cannot Be Detected.
>
>PLEASE NOTE
>Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the = Consumer Is Not
>Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exi= st or Will Exist Only
>in a Vague and Undetermined State.
>
>COMPONENT EQUIVALENCY NOTICE
>The Subatomic Particles (Electrons, Protons, etc.) C= omprising This Product
>Are Exactly the Same in Every Measurable Respect as = Those Used in the
>Products of Other Manufacturers, and No Claim to the= Contrary May
>Legitimately Be Expressed or Implied.
>
>HEALTH WARNING
>Care Should Be Taken When Lifting This Product, Sinc= e Its Mass, and Thus
>Its Weight, Is Dependent on Its Velocity Relative to= the User.
>
>IMPORTANT NOTICE TO PURCHASERS
>The Entire Physical Universe, Including This Product= , May One Day Collapse
>Back into an Infinitesimally Small Space. Should Ano= ther Universe
>Subsequently Reemerge, the Existence of This Product= in That Universe
>Cannot Be Guaranteed.
>
>Submitted for your review by Ian MacLeod
>

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C03CAC.CF2565F0-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:56:52 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:44:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gene V." Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think we should conduct our own study as well! :) Perhaps to see if we can replicate the results? On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jonas Cicenas wrote: > Hey all, > > this is abstract from PubMed, don't you think these guys are like us?...: > > Alcohol 1985 Sep-Oct;2(5):637-40 > > > Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive display in the siamese > fighting fish, Betta splendens. > > Galizio M, Woodard RL, Keith J > > The present study used the aggressive display of Betta splendens in response > to a mirror as an index of the effects of ethanol and the opiate antagonist, > naltrexone. Naltrexone produces an opiate receptor blockade and thus > provided a test of the hypothesis that ethanol effects on aggression are > mediated by the opioid system. Eighty fish were randomly assigned to one of > eight groups in a 4 X 2 factorial design with Ethanol (0, 0.25, 0.50, and > 0.75 g%) and Naltrexone (0 and 5 mg/l) as the main factors. The 0.75 g% dose > of ethanol reliably suppressed aggressive display as measured by number of > gill show responses, but lower doses had no effect or tended to increase > aggressive display. At the same time, all doses of ethanol increased arousal > in the fish as measured by airgulping. Naltrexone alone did not have effects > on aggression or arousal, and did not interact with ethanol on either > measure. Thus the results did not support the ethanol-opioid common-link > hypothesis. > > PMID: 4063057, UI: 86050895 > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > Mr. Gene Valido Mad Scientist for The Furby Military Academies http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:59:36 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <000501c03d7f$99a237e0$0400a8c0@p3800> From: "I. W. H. MacLeod" Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: References: Subject: Replicating the Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens, Another Suggestion Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:59:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentlemen, Mr. Valido has a pertinent point about replicating the results of this study. Perhaps we could extend the scope of this study to human subjects, instead of betta splendens; after all, we all have much more behavioural experience with homo sapiens than betta splendens. At least I've never encountered another mad scientist who was a siamese fighting fish aficionado. May I suggest fans at a sporting event? Examining whether they cheered louder, or more exuberently, or not at all, at various levels of intoxication. College students being the subjects of choice for most investigators, this is the perfect time of the year to recruit massive numbers of subjects on your local college campus. Respectfully, Ian MacLeod ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 01:39:25 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <000b01c03d96$32dce520$5d00a8c0@primediainternet.com> From: "George Drumer" Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: References: Subject: Re: your mail Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:41:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recall similar studies involving the effects of Newcastle Brown Ale upon Homo Sapiens of the Tyneside region, which involved intoxication of the adult male while a succession of double-blind intoxicated subjects are invited to 'look at' his partner. The test engendered feelings of being "sick to the gills" in the subjects, and the initial test subject became very enraged. If I remember rightly, the thesis was first presented in 'The Pugilist'. George Drumer Mad Scientist for the propagation of non-rational methodology ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene V." To: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:44 AM Subject: Re: your mail > I think we should conduct our own study as well! :) Perhaps > to see if we can replicate the results? > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jonas Cicenas wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > this is abstract from PubMed, don't you think these guys are like us?...: > > > > Alcohol 1985 Sep-Oct;2(5):637-40 > > > > > > Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive display in the siamese > > fighting fish, Betta splendens. > > > > Galizio M, Woodard RL, Keith J > > > > The present study used the aggressive display of Betta splendens in response > > to a mirror as an index of the effects of ethanol and the opiate antagonist, > > naltrexone. Naltrexone produces an opiate receptor blockade and thus > > provided a test of the hypothesis that ethanol effects on aggression are > > mediated by the opioid system. Eighty fish were randomly assigned to one of > > eight groups in a 4 X 2 factorial design with Ethanol (0, 0.25, 0.50, and > > 0.75 g%) and Naltrexone (0 and 5 mg/l) as the main factors. The 0.75 g% dose > > of ethanol reliably suppressed aggressive display as measured by number of > > gill show responses, but lower doses had no effect or tended to increase > > aggressive display. At the same time, all doses of ethanol increased arousal > > in the fish as measured by airgulping. Naltrexone alone did not have effects > > on aggression or arousal, and did not interact with ethanol on either > > measure. Thus the results did not support the ethanol-opioid common-link > > hypothesis. > > > > PMID: 4063057, UI: 86050895 > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > Mr. Gene Valido > Mad Scientist for > The Furby Military Academies > http://users.viawest.net/ctos/~cwebb/furbymain.htm > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 02:22:44 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: From: docfarmer@riyadbank.com.sa Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: RE: Replicating the Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressi ve display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens, Another Suggest ion Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:53:35 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C03D98.5589A502" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D98.5589A502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Prof. MacLeod, Your scientific reasoning is sound. However, how will you find a control group for the sporting event - the group that does not ingest ethanol, naltrexone or any other intoxicants? I doubt you'd find such a group in a college or university. Good hunting. Doc Farmer Policy Development Advisor Official Monster Raving Loony Party (UK) -----Original Message----- From: I. W. H. MacLeod [mailto:iwhm@tconl.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2000 09:00 To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Replicating the Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens, Another Suggestion Gentlemen, Mr. Valido has a pertinent point about replicating the results of this study. Perhaps we could extend the scope of this study to human subjects, instead of betta splendens; after all, we all have much more behavioural experience with homo sapiens than betta splendens. At least I've never encountered another mad scientist who was a siamese fighting fish aficionado. May I suggest fans at a sporting event? Examining whether they cheered louder, or more exuberently, or not at all, at various levels of intoxication. College students being the subjects of choice for most investigators, this is the perfect time of the year to recruit massive numbers of subjects on your local college campus. Respectfully, Ian MacLeod *************************************************************************** * The information transmitted in this e-Mail, and any files transmitted * * with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the * * individual(s) to whom it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, * * dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this * * information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) * * is prohibited. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of * * the author, and do not necessarily represent those of Riyad Bank. If * * you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and * * the system manager at postmaster@RiyadBank.com.sa and delete the material * * from your computer. * * * * This footnote confirms that this message and any associated attachments * * have been scanned by MIMESweeper for content security and the presence * * of computer viruses. * *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D98.5589A502 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Replicating the Effects of ethanol and naltrexone on aggressive = display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens, Another Suggestion</= TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Prof. MacLeod,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Your scientific reasoning is sound.  However, how wi= ll you find a control group for the sporting event - the group that does no= t ingest ethanol, naltrexone or any other intoxicants?  I doubt you'd = find such a group in a college or university.  Good hunting.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Doc Farmer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Policy Development Advisor</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Official Monster Raving Loony Party (UK)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: I. W. H. MacLeod [<A HREF=3D"mailto:iwhm@tconl.com= ">mailto:iwhm@tconl.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2000 09:00</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Replicating the Effects of ethanol and naltrexo= ne on aggressive</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>display in the siamese fighting fish, Betta splendens, A= nother</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Suggestion</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gentlemen,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mr. Valido has a pertinent point about replicating the re= sults of this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>study.  Perhaps we could extend the scope of this s= tudy to human subjects,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>instead of betta splendens; after all, we all have much = more behavioural</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>experience with homo sapiens than betta splendens. = At least I've never</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>encountered another mad scientist who was a siamese figh= ting fish</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>aficionado.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>May I suggest fans at a sporting event?  Examining w= hether they cheered</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>louder, or more exuberently, or not at all, at various l= evels of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>intoxication.  College students being the subjects = of choice for most</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>investigators, this is the perfect time of the year to r= ecruit massive</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>numbers of subjects on your local college campus.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Respectfully,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ian MacLeod</FONT> </P> <CODE><FONT SIZE=3D3><BR> <BR> ***************************************************************************= <BR> * The information transmitted in this e-Mail, and any files transmitted *= <BR> * with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the *= <BR> * individual(s) to whom it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, *= <BR> * dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this *= <BR> * information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) *= <BR> * is prohibited. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of *= <BR> * the author, and do not necessarily represent those of Riyad Bank. If *= <BR> * you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and *= <BR> * the system manager at postmaster@RiyadBank.com.sa and delete the material= *<BR> * from your computer. *= <BR> * *= <BR> * This footnote confirms that this message and any associated attachments *= <BR> * have been scanned by MIMESweeper for content security and the presence *= <BR> * of computer viruses. *= <BR> ***************************************************************************= <BR> </FONT></CODE></BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D98.5589A502-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 06:43:29 -0700 Sender: owner-mad-scientists@VJC.COM Message-ID: <C15FDA2B178ED311AB9200508B5C7E038EFBA5@hopdcex1.headoffice.riyadbank.com> From: docfarmer@riyadbank.com.sa Reply-To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG To: Mad-Scientists@Mad-Scientists.ORG Subject: Help! Names Needed for New Metric System Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:42 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C041AA.835E73E8" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C041AA.835E73E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings, Fellow Mad Scientists! I would like to ask for your help in coming up with new names for a Loony Party Metric System. The system will be based upon a gold standard. Specifically, the multiples for the weight or dimensions of a single gold atom will be used for length, mass and volume. Gold was chosen because it has no unstable isotopes and does not corrode. I'd like to use definably British names if possible (the Loony Party is based in the UK, after all). For example, for a certain number of gold atoms (10^20 atoms, if I remember the atomic weight correctly), I am thinking of a mass unit to replace the gram. In this case, I'm thinking of the Graham. It sounds pretty much the same, but has that British feel about it. For volume, I am considering replacing Litre with Nigel. No real reason, it's just because it would sound funny if a lady asked (in a Pythonesque accent) "Ooh, luv, pick me up a Nigel of milk at the grocers". For length, however, I'm pretty stumped. I was thinking of the new meter to be about 9 inches long, and replacing the term meter with Peter. However, I'm afraid it would give the men too many bragging rights, and would give women too many reasons to giggle. I would appreciate any and all suggestions - the less serious, the better - and I'll review them with a crack(ed) panel of loony judges to determine which would be the best to use. I thank you in advance for the anticipated flood of responses. Doc Farmer Policy Development Advisor Official Monster Raving Loony Party (UK) p.s. I'll soon present the group with a new time measurement system (Loony Time), a new calendar (the Loonian Calendar) and a new cartographic system. Your comments on these items would be most welcome before I set up formal proposals to the ISO for review and adoption. *************************************************************************** * The information transmitted in this e-Mail, and any files transmitted * * with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the * * individual(s) to whom it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, * * dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this * * information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) * * is prohibited. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of * * the author, and do not necessarily represent those of Riyad Bank. 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